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| 00:03.09 | docx_ | Hi, iam lukas and i would like to announce you that my friend Michal Srb has been released the new wattereffect for kwin http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Watereffect?content=95696 |
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| 00:03.48 | docx_ | Please, if you want, try it ;) |
| 00:03.57 | Guest74210 | can someone help me move icons on my taskbar... they are unlocked but always move back to the same position after I move them |
| 00:04.47 | Dhraakellian | wonders why scrolling over the desktop switches virtual desktops in reverse |
| 00:05.42 | Guest74210 | wonders why he asks for help in here\ |
| 00:06.04 | Dhraakellian | Guest74210: in KDE4? |
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| 00:06.39 | Dhraakellian | afaik, you can only change the order of buttons and plasmoids in the panel. The spacing is done automatically |
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| 00:06.52 | Dhraakellian | doesn't know if this has changed in 4.2 |
| 00:07.20 | Guest74210 | yes |
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| 00:07.47 | Guest74210 | I am using Kde4 with plasma desktop |
| 00:07.49 | niklauz | anyone know when the 'mac-os style' overhead window menus will return in kde4? it's driving me nuts |
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| 00:14.29 | Guest74210 | so Im guessing that it is not possible to move the icons where I want them????? |
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| 00:15.31 | neverendingo | Guest74210: do you have the task manager on the panel? |
| 00:16.42 | Colonel_Panic | Why does my panel keep getting window decorations around it, and how han I turn those off? |
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| 00:17.30 | Colonel_Panic | The titlebar on the panel reads "Qt-subapplication" |
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| 00:17.43 | Colonel_Panic | it's extremely annoying and I want it gone |
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| 00:17.51 | Colonel_Panic | somebody? anybody? |
| 00:18.01 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: what version do you have? |
| 00:18.02 | Dhraakellian | Guest74210: you can reorder icons and plasmoids, but the actual spacing between them is automatic |
| 00:18.06 | Colonel_Panic | 4.2 |
| 00:18.14 | Dhraakellian | spacers might help somewhat |
| 00:18.36 | Colonel_Panic | yeah, there's a bug in that as well |
| 00:19.25 | Colonel_Panic | sometimes when I add a new widget to my panel, it appears on top of the rightmost widget, and I can't click on it without clicking the previously existing widget |
| 00:19.53 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: it's beta, in it can be some bugs, did you tried report it in bugzilla? |
| 00:19.55 | Colonel_Panic | when this happens, I also cannot move widgets around |
| 00:20.40 | Colonel_Panic | Well, I came in here trying to get help with issues I was having with KDE 4.1, and everyone told me to upgrade to 4.2 and that wopuld solve a lot of my problems |
| 00:21.05 | Colonel_Panic | I'm ready to dump KDE altogether, or at least backgrade to 3.5.10 |
| 00:21.21 | Colonel_Panic | this Plasma thing is really anooying and pointless |
| 00:21.28 | Colonel_Panic | *annoying* |
| 00:21.31 | Guest74210 | how to tell what version kde\ |
| 00:22.02 | Colonel_Panic | what's the use of Plasma anyway, just to make KDE more like Vista? |
| 00:22.06 | Guest74210 | I think plasma is pretty sharp... but you need a hd monitor |
| 00:22.11 | Colonel_Panic | Just to allow desktop applets? |
| 00:23.05 | Colonel_Panic | I have a 24" 1920 x 1200 monitor |
| 00:23.20 | neverendingo | Colonel_Panic: upgrading to KDE4.2 is only advisable for daily use when not in beta anymore |
| 00:23.25 | Colonel_Panic | I don't get it |
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| 00:23.57 | Colonel_Panic | so you're saying there's no known fix yet for the issues I'm having with panel |
| 00:24.25 | Colonel_Panic | alright then, what do I need to do to backgrade to 3.5.10? |
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| 00:24.35 | Colonel_Panic | kde 4 IS A BIT OF A WASH FOR ME |
| 00:24.40 | neverendingo | Colonel_Panic: where did you get your beta packages from? |
| 00:24.52 | Colonel_Panic | kde.org |
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| 00:25.08 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: Behavior of you panel is very strange.. I dont sure that it is in current code |
| 00:25.13 | Dhraakellian | Guest74210: open some KDE app and go to Help > About KDE |
| 00:25.20 | Colonel_Panic | well I don't like KDE 4 anyway |
| 00:25.30 | Colonel_Panic | many of the new features are really annoying to me |
| 00:25.47 | Colonel_Panic | the "desktop plasmoid" is kind of stupid |
| 00:25.52 | Colonel_Panic | why not just have a desktop? |
| 00:26.07 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: Please wait for official 4.2, it will be more better ;) |
| 00:26.07 | Colonel_Panic | and I can't place shortcuts onto my panel |
| 00:26.19 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: it is possible to just have a single folderview for your desktop |
| 00:26.48 | Dhraakellian | is waiting for 4.2 before putting KDE4 on his desktop downstairs |
| 00:27.04 | Dhraakellian | running 4.1.3/OpenSUSE 11.1 on the laptop |
| 00:27.09 | Colonel_Panic | so you have a choice of having applets, or a single folder view, but not both at the same time? |
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| 00:27.49 | Colonel_Panic | well, I want to go back to KDE 3.5.10 |
| 00:27.58 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: I think they can coexist |
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| 00:28.05 | Colonel_Panic | how do I go about doing this? |
| 00:28.12 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: In 4.2 is new "feature" called "folder view as desktop", over it you can have other widgets/plasmoids |
| 00:28.14 | Colonel_Panic | KDE 3.5 was fine for my uses |
| 00:28.29 | Dhraakellian | docx_: ah, so that's one of those things that openSUSE backported? |
| 00:28.37 | Dhraakellian | silly openSUSE |
| 00:28.47 | Colonel_Panic | these issues with the panel are extremely annoying |
| 00:28.52 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: nothing stopping you from sticking with 3.5.x for the time being |
| 00:28.58 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: It depents on distributions that you are using.. |
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| 00:29.07 | Colonel_Panic | I'm using Kubuntu |
| 00:29.11 | neverendingo | Colonel_Panic: they are not normal, running recent trunk, never saw that |
| 00:29.24 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: yeah. You might want to stick with 8.04 |
| 00:29.34 | Colonel_Panic | hmmm... maybe it has something to do with Emerald? |
| 00:29.51 | neverendingo | Colonel_Panic: try KWin then |
| 00:29.53 | Colonel_Panic | I've already reinstalled my bOS to upgrade |
| 00:30.04 | Colonel_Panic | my OS |
| 00:30.20 | Colonel_Panic | I'd have to reinstall all over again |
| 00:30.26 | Colonel_Panic | ugh |
| 00:31.39 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: yeah, but, iirc, KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu 8.10 isn't really recommended |
| 00:32.04 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: Problem of you plasma may be in using of Emerald.. KDE should support other WMs but its not standart and not well tested |
| 00:32.12 | Colonel_Panic | then how do I backgrade to 3.5.10? |
| 00:32.26 | Dhraakellian | (one reason why I'm contemplating a switch to suse for now, given that they support both kde3 and kde4 concurrently) |
| 00:33.04 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: Maybe there is some PPA with 3.5.. |
| 00:33.47 | Colonel_Panic | ok... hoiw do I switch from emerald WM to KWin |
| 00:35.25 | Colonel_Panic | hello? |
| 00:35.54 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: it was somewhere in system settings, but i cant find that at now :D |
| 00:35.58 | boom1992 | Colonel_Panic: run "kwin --replace" |
| 00:35.59 | boom1992 | ;) |
| 00:36.18 | Colonel_Panic | ok thx |
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| 00:37.59 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: aa.. here it is: systemsettings -> "default applications" (i dont know english original) -> Window Manager .. to setup for next login |
| 00:39.04 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: please tell us if kwin corrected it :) |
| 00:39.40 | Colonel_Panic | it appears to have done so |
| 00:39.57 | johnny69 | Hello folks, Looking under, "Personal settings" there is "desktop Sharing". However, I just did an install of Suse 11 and everything appears normal except that. It's completely missing. What package needs to be installed for that? Any ideas? Thank you (Kde 3.5.10/suse 11.0) |
| 00:40.11 | pinotree | johnny69: #opensuse-kde for distro packages |
| 00:40.45 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: ok.. I will report it someone higher :).. thank you |
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| 00:42.50 | Colonel_Panic | Object::connect: No such signal OrgKdeKephalConfigurationsInterface::statusChanged() |
| 00:42.50 | Colonel_Panic | kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed |
| 00:43.13 | Colonel_Panic | That's the output of the CLI |
| 00:44.09 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: oups.. it seem realy to you have installed some wrong build .. |
| 00:44.38 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: try reinstall the packages with kde |
| 00:44.40 | Colonel_Panic | wrong build? |
| 00:45.03 | Colonel_Panic | is there a more recent one that will work better? |
| 00:45.17 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: from where did you install your KDE? |
| 00:45.34 | Colonel_Panic | somebody posted a link in here |
| 00:45.48 | Colonel_Panic | it was at kde.org |
| 00:46.44 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: hm.. so, i using kubuntu too but self-builded kde, but previously i was used some repository with latest builds of KDE |
| 00:47.01 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: i will find it and post ;) |
| 00:47.12 | Colonel_Panic | I'll upgrade it via the repos then |
| 00:48.43 | johnny69 | pinotree: They didn't answer me in the channel you directed me to. Dude, you know EVERYTHING! Can't you just tell me? |
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| 00:48.52 | johnny69 | :) |
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| 00:49.01 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: this should be right: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main |
| 00:49.13 | pinotree | johnny69: i don't use opensuse, so i don't know, sorry |
| 00:49.28 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: do you know how to add repo? |
| 00:49.33 | pinotree | johnny69: be patient on irc |
| 00:49.43 | Colonel_Panic | I don't seem to be able to change the color of my window titlebars |
| 00:50.07 | Colonel_Panic | and compiz doesn't work now either |
| 00:50.32 | Colonel_Panic | well... I turned it off |
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| 00:50.45 | Colonel_Panic | I'd like to be able to drag windopws between desktops |
| 00:51.27 | Colonel_Panic | I guess I have to sacrifice functionality like that for the incredible wonderfulness that is KDE4, right? |
| 00:51.32 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: KDE is able to this too.. but it depends on style what you choose.. "Ozone" decorator will be right for you |
| 00:51.51 | Colonel_Panic | able to do which? |
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| 00:52.17 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: able to change window decoration color.. |
| 00:52.41 | Colonel_Panic | I'm using ozone |
| 00:53.34 | Colonel_Panic | the new appearance -> colors dialog is pretty confusing |
| 00:54.02 | Colonel_Panic | but I changed "titlebar" and "titlebar text" colors and nothing changed |
| 00:54.18 | docx_ | Colonel_Panic: But then you must uncheck "blend color with window" (or what is it) in "Windows" in appearence |
| 00:55.46 | Dhraakellian | recommends Crystal, even though the KDE4 version doesn't (yet?) have transparency, real or fake |
| 00:56.12 | Moobyfr | transparency ? |
| 00:57.42 | Dhraakellian | KDE4: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Crystal?content=75140 |
| 00:57.59 | Dhraakellian | KDE3: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13969 |
| 00:58.46 | Dhraakellian | iirc, it's the default in kubuntu |
| 00:58.57 | Dhraakellian | <=8.04 |
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| 00:59.08 | Moobyfr | I'm using silicon |
| 00:59.11 | Dhraakellian | but I don't think they have transparency enabled by default |
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| 00:59.52 | Guest74210 | how to upgrade to kde |
| 01:00.01 | Guest74210 | how to upgrade to kde 4.2 |
| 01:00.33 | drantin | Guest74210: #distro |
| 01:00.44 | Dhraakellian | or compile the beta yourself |
| 01:00.58 | Guest74210 | ? I have to download and upgrade the distro? |
| 01:01.49 | Dhraakellian | Guest74210: ask in your distro's channel |
| 01:02.06 | Guest74210 | thx |
| 01:02.23 | Colonel_Panic | all the colors in my windows look way lighter and brighter than the ones I've chosen |
| 01:02.29 | docx_ | Guest74210: 4.2 is still beta and its not recommended for non-testing purpose |
| 01:02.38 | Colonel_Panic | \is there some weird setting that makes everything brighter? |
| 01:02.43 | Guest74210 | I see is 4.1 oout yet |
| 01:02.53 | kdepepo | Colonel_Panic, it's oxygens gradients. |
| 01:03.13 | Colonel_Panic | I'm talking about window contents too |
| 01:03.29 | Colonel_Panic | can I turn off the gradients? |
| 01:03.36 | kdepepo | Colonel_Panic, use a different style. |
| 01:03.38 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: oxygen widget style vs. oxygen windec |
| 01:03.49 | Dhraakellian | Colonel_Panic: there's plastique for the classic KDE3 look |
| 01:04.09 | kdepepo | kde-look.org has styles and windecos for KDE4. |
| 01:04.41 | drantin | skulpture is nice too |
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| 01:19.06 | PeterFA | KDE4 doesn't draw any windows decoratins. |
| 01:19.18 | PeterFA | How do I fix this quickly? |
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| 01:19.59 | docx_ | PeterFA: doesn't draw or you dont have window manager? try tu run "kwin --replace" |
| 01:20.14 | docx_ | *to |
| 01:20.26 | PeterFA | docx_, there's no bar at the top of any window, like this XChat window. |
| 01:21.37 | PeterFA | kwin --replace |
| 01:21.39 | PeterFA | OOpse |
| 01:21.56 | PeterFA | Ah, that worked. |
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| 01:22.17 | docx_ | PeterFA: i told it.. window manager :) |
| 01:22.57 | PeterFA | Ah, that's so much better. |
| 01:22.58 | PeterFA | :) |
| 01:23.58 | docx_ | PeterFA: please look to system settings -> default applicatons -> window managger |
| 01:24.23 | docx_ | PeterFA: if you have configured kwin as default.. |
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| 01:28.47 | robin0800_ | Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 2 Available |
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| 01:33.53 | robin0800_ | Kubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) Alpha 2 |
| 01:34.35 | PeterFA | kwin: Unknown option 'restart'. |
| 01:34.35 | PeterFA | kwin: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. |
| 01:35.04 | PeterFA | Darn, I killed the terminal that had kwin running, and now I have windows over the xchat window so I can't see the history. |
| 01:36.27 | PeterFA | Ay, there we go. |
| 01:37.32 | PeterFA | docx_, there is no menu for window manager. |
| 01:37.44 | PeterFA | Do I need to nuke my ,kde4 directory? |
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| 01:41.07 | PeterFA | [K]Ubuntu is now in the 9s? |
| 01:41.12 | PeterFA | Apperently so. |
| 01:42.03 | docx_ | PeterFA: you must run it from krunner or from else which is not terminal |
| 01:42.41 | docx_ | PeterFA: What do you mean with that kubuntu is now in the 9s? |
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| 01:47.06 | PeterFA | robin0800_> Kubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) Alpha 2 |
| 01:47.41 | PeterFA | docx_, what if I do nuke .kde4? |
| 01:47.50 | PeterFA | docx_, because I have configs left over from 4.0. |
| 01:49.09 | docx_ | PeterFA: why? |
| 01:49.50 | PeterFA | docx_, the configs produce icons that go to nothing. |
| 01:50.08 | PeterFA | docx_, and kwin doesn't start up on default, there's no option to set it as default manager. |
| 01:50.22 | PeterFA | docx_, there's no, "window manager" under "default programs" |
| 01:50.43 | PeterFA | KDE4 is just so well done. I like it. |
| 01:50.46 | PeterFA | It's so fast. |
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| 01:52.30 | docx_ | PeterFA: ok, but its strange :) so try to logout, switch to terminal (alt-ctrl-f1) or login to something else than kde, copy your .kde (or .kde4) to backup and back login to kde.. |
| 01:53.01 | PeterFA | Ok. |
| 01:53.05 | PeterFA | quasi-nuking it. |
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| 02:01.07 | johnny69 | Could someone tell me where Knewsticker keeps it's list of Rss feeds? What is the filename please? (kde 3.5.10/Suse 10.3) Thank you. |
| 02:02.19 | thiago | johnny69: somewhere in either ~/.kde/share/config or ~/.kde/share/knewsticker |
| 02:02.37 | johnny69 | thiago: Ok I will look, thank you. |
| 02:03.17 | thiago | johnny69: ~/.kde/share/apps/knewsticker |
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| 02:15.04 | PeterFA | Is there an import wizard? |
| 02:15.18 | PeterFA | BTW, clearing out .kde4 fixed a lot of problems. |
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| 02:18.22 | thiago | import wizard in what? |
| 02:20.31 | docx_ | PeterFA: unfortunately, you cannot "import" settings from old (and maybe broken) kde settings to new :( |
| 02:20.50 | PeterFA | Oh well, I'll copy over the right subdirs then. |
| 02:20.55 | thiago | yes, there's no need to import |
| 02:20.56 | PeterFA | Fix kopete really fast. |
| 02:21.04 | thiago | it's the same KDE settings, therefore no import is necessary |
| 02:21.16 | PeterFA | thiago, not entirely true. |
| 02:21.17 | thiago | same settings, same directories. The upd scripts are run if necessary. |
| 02:21.23 | thiago | well, that's the theory. |
| 02:21.38 | thiago | anything not working is either a shortcoming that must be documented or a bug to be fixed. |
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| 02:47.03 | PeterFA | thiago, or a left-over from when I ran KDE4.0 |
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| 02:50.04 | PeterFA | What's the command to start the kde 3.5.10 version of kwalletmanager? |
| 02:50.12 | PeterFA | I keep launching the 4.0 one. |
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| 03:02.18 | Guest77809 | hello |
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| 03:24.36 | DasKreech | ji |
| 03:24.56 | DasKreech | PeterFA: try whereis kwalletmanager |
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| 03:44.37 | niklauz | anyone know if/when 'mac-os style' titlebars from 3.5 will make it to kde4? |
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| 03:47.57 | DasKreech | niklauz: If someone codes it |
| 03:48.15 | LeewardRail | is there a way to resize the "box" that a widget is inside on the lower taskbar ? The digitalclock is in a boundary box that is twice the size of the clock itself. |
| 03:48.20 | niklauz | aka not scheduled.... ok |
| 03:48.45 | LeewardRail | using KDE 4.1.3 on mandriva 2009 |
| 03:49.00 | LeewardRail | can't find any mention in the docs |
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| 03:55.01 | DasKreech | niklauz: Might be schedueld but it's very low priority for core devs. If you can find a set of folks for whom that is a top priority then please go ahead and implement it |
| 03:55.10 | DasKreech | People seem to really like that feature |
| 03:59.13 | niklauz | ya, i got really used to it in 3.5, it's nice for small screen size devices |
| 04:03.31 | niklauz | weird to think its a plasmoid now, heh |
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| 04:08.53 | sandeepkumar047 | What command to use to reinstall a software? |
| 04:09.43 | thiago | none |
| 04:09.47 | thiago | KDE provides no such feature |
| 04:09.55 | sandeepkumar047 | okay. |
| 04:09.56 | thiago | which distribution are you using? |
| 04:10.09 | sandeepkumar047 | fedora8 |
| 04:10.16 | sandeepkumar047 | sorry fedora9 |
| 04:10.24 | thiago | then join #fedora and ask there |
| 04:10.33 | sandeepkumar047 | okay thanks. |
| 04:11.53 | DasKreech | #fedora-kde :-D |
| 04:12.13 | DasKreech | Anyone sent sabdfl thier desktop? |
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| 04:17.50 | Commie_Cary | I set up my theme in qtconfig 4 and all of my QT and KDE programs work exept konversation |
| 04:17.53 | Commie_Cary | whats wrong? |
| 04:17.55 | PeterFA | Why does the k-battery monitor thingy show I have a battery at 100% charge and another at 71%? |
| 04:18.01 | PeterFA | I kind of don't have any batters. |
| 04:18.05 | PeterFA | Batteries even. |
| 04:18.10 | PeterFA | Like, I have a desktop. |
| 04:19.17 | cccharles | Commie_Cary: I believe that Konversation is still using Qt 3. |
| 04:19.38 | Commie_Cary | oh :(, but I have the qt3 support thingy |
| 04:20.05 | Commie_Cary | libqt4-qt3support |
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| 04:20.51 | rohanpm | Commie_Cary: that's not related |
| 04:21.09 | cccharles | Commie_Cary: that looks like a library to help devs port software from Qt 3 --> 4 |
| 04:21.17 | Commie_Cary | oh |
| 04:22.01 | thiago | Qt3Support is part of Qt4 |
| 04:22.04 | thiago | it's not Qt3 |
| 04:22.36 | Commie_Cary | so I have to wait till konversation next verison? |
| 04:22.48 | thiago | I don't think the port has started |
| 04:22.55 | Commie_Cary | it has |
| 04:23.08 | Commie_Cary | the konversation site says the next realise will be kde 4 |
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| 04:30.11 | N9NU | anyone know if there is a bug for "systemsettings" in regards to splash screens and styles no showing up in the list after downloading them via the automated method? |
| 04:30.31 | N9NU | i downloaded 3 new splash themes and none of them show up |
| 04:30.48 | N9NU | KDE 4.2 B2 |
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| 04:31.43 | mewshi | hi :) |
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| 04:48.53 | PeterFA | Is there a console plasmoid? |
| 04:49.06 | PeterFA | I want a shell on my desktop like a plasmoid. |
| 04:50.30 | DasKreech | PeterFA: As I recall you can make any app into a plasmoid |
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| 05:02.02 | Request | Free Programming E-books With Direct Links & Request Ebooks http://www.request-ebooks.blogspot.com/ |
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| 05:06.53 | calamous | Is there a way to disable KDE's fade to black when the logout or shutdown are clicked on the menu. (vnc or xrdp don't like that) |
| 05:07.30 | PeterFA | DasKreech, how? |
| 05:08.05 | PeterFA | CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:72 (MESSAGE): |
| 05:08.05 | PeterFA | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.12 | DasKreech | calamous: alt+F3 -> Window behaviour -> effects -> Logout effect |
| 05:08.24 | PeterFA | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/cpuload?content=86628 <-- as an example. |
| 05:09.04 | calamous | DasKreech, thanks, let me give that a try |
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| 05:32.42 | jackowayed | ironically, I'm using konversation to get help with konversation |
| 05:33.13 | jackowayed | wait, think I got it |
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| 06:11.06 | litb | hi all |
| 06:11.12 | litb | what book about Qt would you guys suggest? |
| 06:13.25 | JediatNight | there was a good book on qt i forgot its name |
| 06:13.29 | JediatNight | you can easily google it |
| 06:13.50 | JediatNight | it was available as a pdf |
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| 06:30.51 | litb | oh thanks JediatNight |
| 06:31.14 | JediatNight | i think it is available on trolltech website |
| 06:31.21 | JediatNight | you can find its name |
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| 08:33.12 | neeku_ | hi |
| 08:34.39 | neeku_ | i have kde 4.0 on suse 11.0 and i'm downloading rpm update files for kde 4.1.3 but not all of them yet. is it ok if i install the downloaded ones or i have to update them all together? |
| 08:38.25 | neeku_ | ??? |
| 08:39.11 | neeku_ | anyone here? |
| 08:42.38 | DasKreech | neeku_: #opensuse or #opensuse-kde |
| 08:42.53 | neeku_ | #opensuse-kde |
| 08:42.57 | neeku_ | ooppss! |
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| 08:56.12 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 09:10.38 | aditya | hey people.... when I run k3b as a normal user, it does not detect the optical drive. Everything is fine if I run it as root... |
| 09:10.50 | aditya | any ideas why this might be happening and any remedies? |
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| 09:17.26 | xdan779 | aditya: have you run k3setup as root yet ? |
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| 09:18.23 | xdan779 | aditya: it is very likely your permissions are not set correctley |
| 09:22.21 | aditya | xdan779: just upgraded from suse 11.0 to 11.1 Nothing else. Was working okay in 11.0 |
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| 09:22.57 | aditya | and I have not run k3setup. I never have |
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| 09:23.44 | xdan779 | aditya: I am not familier with opensuse or what changes may have taken place, but what you describe sounds very likely a permissions issue |
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| 09:24.09 | xdan779 | aditya: if it was something else it would have failed when run as root |
| 09:24.11 | aditya | yeah, to me too. I am asking on #suse too |
| 09:35.30 | aditya | xdan779: thanks a lot. My user was somehow not a part of cdrom group after the upgrade. Added it back and it works now. |
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| 09:37.27 | xdan779 | aditya: ahh very cool good to hear the solution |
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| 09:38.07 | aditya | yeah. 1 DVD down, I have to write about 15 more today. |
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| 09:38.11 | aditya | on to the second... |
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| 10:53.29 | OxDeadC0de | anyone know how to setup a weather datasource for 4.2 b 2? |
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| 11:04.16 | thiago | OxDeadC0de: probably it involves writing a bit of code |
| 11:05.02 | OxDeadC0de | thiago if I could find some good documentation i can do that ^^ |
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| 11:09.04 | thiago | well, you're going to find the best documentation possible: source code :-) |
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| 11:10.18 | OxDeadC0de | that would be cool, if I could find any data sources short of looking at the source repo :P, dunno if it's ubuntu's fault, there were some in 4.2b1 (grumble) |
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| 12:03.31 | Foriskak | Any ideas on how to get it to refresh the screen faster for less flickering?/// |
| 12:04.18 | Foriskak | it seems the frame rate is like 1 per second now. My upload on the server is not the best (nor the latency), but surely there is some compression,etc. options I can tweak? |
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| 12:24.42 | zozeer | I have a question about plasma, more about plasma widgets and if they can be used in fluxbox? |
| 12:25.10 | pinotree | most probably no |
| 12:25.49 | zozeer | dang, my quest fo a fuzzy logic clock has hit yet another dead end..... |
| 12:27.16 | Rasi | zozeer: when firefox-qt finally becomes finshed this might be possible using qt's internal plasma |
| 12:30.44 | zozeer | firefox-qt? |
| 12:30.45 | deitarion | zozeer: Fuzzy logic clock? |
| 12:30.57 | zozeer | yep |
| 12:31.22 | zozeer | I love it but fluxbox does not have one tht I know of |
| 12:31.27 | deitarion | Do you mean the "fuzzy clock" that says stuff like "Half past two" or "Weekend"? |
| 12:31.42 | zozeer | yeah, that one |
| 12:32.05 | deitarion | I could probably re-implement that in Python for you in 15 to 30 minutes tops if you can help me figure out what kind of GUI to give it. |
| 12:34.03 | zozeer | you can? SWEET!! as for what kind of gui im still in the "hello world" programming level, so I have no clue what you mean... |
| 12:34.18 | deitarion | zozeer: What do you want it to look like? |
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| 12:35.05 | zozeer | white background and black font, please. |
| 12:35.11 | Rasi | zozeer: yes... firefox is being ported |
| 12:35.21 | Rasi | its already usable.. but far from being stable |
| 12:35.31 | deitarion | That's simple. What I mean is "Does Fluxbox have some kind of panel widget system? Do you want it to be a free-floating window? Something else?" |
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| 12:36.45 | Foriskak | I'm exporting my kde desktop via VNC |
| 12:36.49 | Foriskak | Any ideas on how to get it to refresh the screen faster for less flickering?/// |
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| 12:37.38 | zozeer | It has a tak tray, if it could live in there that would be great I also know that the slit takes withdrawn apps, either is fine with me. |
| 12:37.38 | deitarion | Foriskak: Looked into NoMachine's NX? |
| 12:37.44 | zozeer | task* |
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| 12:38.30 | deitarion | zozeer: For the systray, it'd be limited to the dimensions of an icon. I can do that, but then your clock would have to be a tooltip that's only displayed when you hover your mouse over it. |
| 12:38.58 | zozeer | thats even better! |
| 12:39.55 | Foriskak | deitarion: looks like it's for pay?///// |
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| 12:40.00 | deitarion | zozeer: Ok. Do you want me to write it using Qt or GTK+? (I suggest GTK+ since a lot of non-KDE users don't have Qt) |
| 12:40.08 | deitarion | Foriskak: There's a free edition. |
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| 12:40.44 | deitarion | Foriskak: You can also google for FreeNX. |
| 12:41.00 | zozeer | gtk+ is fine |
| 12:41.46 | deitarion | zozeer: Ok. Give me a few minutes to whip up the basic boilerplate for a PyGTK+ tray icon. (The clock itself is dead simple. Most of the code goes to setting up a basic GUI.) |
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| 12:42.30 | zozeer | Thanks! |
| 12:43.08 | deitarion | zozeer: While I'm doing this, please look through your icons for one you want it to use as a tray icon. (/usr/share/icons/...) |
| 12:43.22 | deitarion | No big deal if you don't find something, but if you do, it'll save me time. |
| 12:43.35 | zozeer | mk |
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| 12:47.44 | zozeer | mk, found an icon |
| 12:49.38 | shepherd | Does konversation keep logs ? |
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| 12:50.42 | zozeer | yes in ~/logs |
| 12:50.53 | shepherd | Thanks :D |
| 12:51.00 | zozeer | np |
| 12:51.44 | deitarion | zozeer: What icon? |
| 12:52.00 | deitarion | Oh, and as a progress report, I just have two things left to do: Add the icon and translate the time into fuzzy format. |
| 12:52.08 | deitarion | How much fuzziness do you want? |
| 12:53.10 | zozeer | mid level, ya know like early morning, lunch time, etc... and how d I get you the icon? |
| 12:54.59 | deitarion | zozeer: Just tell me its name and I'll check if my system has it. |
| 12:55.38 | zozeer | I google fu'ed one |
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| 12:56.35 | Ronis_BR | what means "34 days until the impossible"? |
| 12:56.40 | deitarion | zozeer: URL? |
| 12:58.05 | deitarion | zozeer: Mind being a little more specific on that? I forget exactly how fuzzy that level is. (eg. Does it differentiate between early morning and late morning? Does it also do mid-morning?) |
| 12:58.49 | deitarion | Actually, give me a sec. I'll grab the source for the KDE widget and read that. (I may hate working in C++, but I can read it) |
| 12:59.20 | arezey | Ronis_BR, kde 4.2 on january 27th. |
| 12:59.34 | Ronis_BR | arezey: hum |
| 12:59.52 | Ronis_BR | arezey: will kde release another beta? |
| 13:00.03 | arezey | no idea. |
| 13:00.11 | Ronis_BR | kde 4.2b2 is good but the bug the it stole your RAM is bad |
| 13:00.23 | arezey | all i know is that the final will be on jan 27th.. |
| 13:02.37 | deitarion | Ok, so it's got Night, Early morning, Morning, Almost noon, Noon, Afternoon, Evening, and Late evening. |
| 13:02.37 | zozeer | the url is http://newdaymusicministries.com/theme/icons/clock_16x16.gif |
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| 13:19.36 | shepherd | I'm trying to compile kde 4.2, I've never compiled it before. I get this error while compiling kdelibs http://sprunge.us/MAfH could somebody please tell me what that means ? |
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| 13:25.58 | fliegenderfrosch | is kde 4.2 beta already usable for daily usage? (i have my little problems with kde 4.1 now, so i donât mind some little problems with 4.2) |
| 13:26.00 | deitarion | zozeer: I didn't want to depend on that icon, so I implemented a --icon command-line option. |
| 13:26.02 | deitarion | zozeer: http://www.ssokolow.com/scripts/#fuzzy_tray_clock.py |
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| 13:26.35 | deitarion | zozeer: Take a look at the code. I think you'll find it surprisingly simple. |
| 13:26.38 | MrRat | fliegenderfrosch: works quite well here |
| 13:27.25 | fliegenderfrosch | MrRat: ok, thanks |
| 13:27.59 | zozeer | sweet, thanks dude! |
| 13:28.53 | deitarion | zozeer: Oh, wait. Let me make one quick fix to it. |
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| 13:29.10 | zozeer | mk |
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| 13:30.41 | deitarion | There. |
| 13:31.38 | zozeer | sweet, ive been looking for one of these for a long time! |
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| 13:32.17 | deitarion | A lot of nice things end up being very simple. That's why I want you to look at the code. You'll see what I mean. |
| 13:34.08 | zozeer | sweet, ive been looking for one of these for a long time!i can see where and how to add more levels of fuzzy. I think I need to find a programming class... |
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| 13:37.03 | deitarion | zozeer: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/thinkCSpy/html/ |
| 13:37.32 | deitarion | ...and this if you want to alter the GUI stuff --> http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/index.html |
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| 13:42.48 | zozeer | thanks |
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| 14:51.32 | farhad_hf | can anyone help me with this error in compiling kdebase ? http://pastebin.com/m1ffc162e |
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| 14:52.03 | draeath | How can I make kscreensaver capture a desktop image to modify instead of using stock images? |
| 14:53.30 | draeath | ie, i want the xanalogtv screensaver to use a screencap instead of images from the wallpaper directory |
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| 14:57.35 | EvilGuru | I have a problem with the 'Apple colors to non-KDE4 applications' checkbox: If checked GTK applications loose their theme, if not checked then Qt-4 application look out of place (i.e., those that use Qt4 but are not KDE). What is the solution? |
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| 14:58.52 | EvilGuru | *apply |
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| 15:01.28 | deitarion | EvilGuru: Have you tried using qtconfig to set the KDE theme for Qt4 apps? |
| 15:01.41 | pinotree | farhad_hf: old kdelibs, update it |
| 15:02.00 | EvilGuru | The theme is applied, just not the colourscheme (so selected text colour etc) |
| 15:02.19 | EvilGuru | "Please use the KDE control centre to set the palette" |
| 15:02.55 | deitarion | No clue then. It "just worked" for me. |
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| 15:03.46 | farhad_hf | pinotree: tnx! i'm updating now |
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| 15:06.08 | EvilGuru | I don't think it is possible to just apply the setting to Qt apps and not to GTK ones |
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| 15:08.54 | Mike1 | lol, found a bug in k3b =) |
| 15:09.03 | tuxick | impossible |
| 15:09.06 | Mike1 | http://cobraclanaut.co.ohost.de/upload/files/screenshot_24.12.2008_16:07:08.jpg |
| 15:09.39 | tuxick | at least you'll have enough temp space |
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| 15:09.51 | Mike1 | exactly that :D |
| 15:10.09 | Mike1 | 15EB :) |
| 15:11.12 | Mike1 | i mean...i got a nice new harddisk some weeks ago, but it's only 1TB ;) |
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| 15:11.40 | vinnie | is there a way to add 'Action - Open as root' to the konqueror right click context menu? |
| 15:12.50 | Mike1 | yes |
| 15:12.56 | Mike1 | you could create it :) |
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| 15:16.33 | neverendingo | vinnie: http://forum.kde.org/solved-how-do-add-custom-right-click-menu-t-10667.html |
| 15:16.38 | vinnie | Mike1, how is that done? |
| 15:16.48 | vinnie | ty |
| 15:16.56 | neverendingo | 4th post is exactly that |
| 15:17.50 | Mike1 | you maybe want to edit it =) |
| 15:18.03 | Mike1 | because it's only for opening kwrite as root |
| 15:18.14 | Mike1 | *opening a file with kwrite as root |
| 15:18.29 | neverendingo | right... |
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| 15:24.59 | vinnie | neverendingo: looks like thats what i need. But i need it to distinguish between folder, or text file. If its a folder i need 'Action - Open as root', and if its text file, i need 'Action - Edit as root' |
| 15:26.49 | neverendingo | vinnie: then you need to add another one and change the mimetype to inode/directory, if i recall that right |
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| 15:29.10 | neverendingo | vinnie: and of course the application should be something like "kdesu(do) dbus-launch dolphin", depending on your system and the file manager you wish to use |
| 15:30.14 | vinnie | wow... sounds like this will be a nice project |
| 15:31.18 | vinnie | im running slackware. The function i need is already present in pclinuxos2007. i guess i could try to find the files there, and copy them |
| 15:31.40 | neverendingo | that could be faster, yes... |
| 15:31.52 | vinnie | thanx for the info |
| 15:35.30 | buntfalke | Does Konqueror of KDE4 actually support pipelining? |
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| 15:38.35 | shamus397 | Something's not quite right with JACK under 4.1.85--I set it as the primary output but when I try to use, say, Hydrogen the JACK server keeps shutting down every 30 secs or so, even in the middle of playback. |
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| 15:39.15 | shamus397 | With 4.1.3 I could use qjackctl, but now solid grabs hw:0 and won't let go |
| 15:41.06 | shamus397 | Needless to say (but here I am saying it anyway :-P) this makes the usability go *way* down. |
| 15:41.38 | shamus397 | Oh, and distro in Gentoo |
| 15:41.41 | shamus397 | *is |
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| 16:12.27 | shamus397 | I guess nobody knows JACK around here. :-P |
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| 16:17.00 | shamus397 | I realize that most people probably don't need JACK and don't care about it, but for me (and others who use pro-audio apps) this will make KDE 4.2 useless and unusable |
| 16:17.18 | burgua | can somebody help with next error? http://www.burgua.org/error.png |
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| 16:18.16 | Nikerabbit | JACK (and to some extent PA) are weird beasts that only few know? |
| 16:18.57 | shamus397 | Perhaps, but pinotree directed me here from kde-devel, so there you go |
| 16:19.19 | Ralesk | What is the state of kdesupport/qimageblitz? It hasn't seen much updates lately, and its readme states that after 4.1 it won't be needed -- nevertheless it seems that kdebase 4.1.85 still depends on it. |
| 16:19.43 | Hydrogen | Ralesk: it's still needed |
| 16:19.51 | Hydrogen | It was originally supposed to be replaced with other graphics code |
| 16:19.55 | Hydrogen | but I think that idea deid |
| 16:19.58 | Ralesk | Quasar, as I read |
| 16:20.01 | Ralesk | ah |
| 16:20.01 | Hydrogen | and so it's going to remian for a while |
| 16:20.08 | Ralesk | okay, I'll package it then |
| 16:20.14 | Hydrogen | or if it didn't official die, quasar has not been worked on for a while |
| 16:21.02 | thiago | shamus397: you're saying that the fact that most people don't need JACK makes KDE apps unusable for you? |
| 16:21.15 | thiago | shamus397: I can't see the cause-consequence relationship. |
| 16:21.16 | Ralesk | (was just wondering because sometimes the same libs or same features end up being provided by different bundles... and configure/cmake messages not updated to reflect the new name -- seen way too many packages like that in the last year :P) |
| 16:21.50 | shamus397 | thiago: What I'm saying is that it only affects people who use pro-audio apps like Hydrogen and Ardour |
| 16:22.03 | shamus397 | And just about anything that uses JACK |
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| 16:22.06 | Ralesk | (great example is libfam being provided by gamin) |
| 16:22.08 | Hydrogen | and what I'm saying is to stop highlighting me! |
| 16:22.19 | Ralesk | haha |
| 16:22.40 | shamus397 | Hydrogen: You're the one who picked a nick named after a nice drum machine. ;-) |
| 16:22.45 | Hydrogen | no |
| 16:22.49 | Hydrogen | the drum machine was named after me |
| 16:22.52 | Hydrogen | It's not my fault |
| 16:22.55 | pinotree | well |
| 16:23.12 | pinotree | the chemical element came for sure before you, so you're always after something |
| 16:23.18 | thiago | shamus397: you're still not making sense |
| 16:23.21 | Ralesk | throws Oxygen at Hydrogen |
| 16:23.28 | MerryChristmas | meh |
| 16:23.29 | Ralesk | hmmm... libwater |
| 16:23.33 | MerryChristmas | this'll do |
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| 16:24.58 | shamus397 | thiago: Let me put it this way. JACK support being broken in KDE 4.2 *won't* affect a majority of users who don't know about it and don't care about it. But those people who *do* use it won't be able to use KDE 4.2 because JACK support is broken! |
| 16:25.11 | pinotree | kde does *not* use jack |
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| 16:25.31 | pinotree | kde uses either gstreamer, xine, or other multimedia backends |
| 16:25.51 | pinotree | it is gstreamer/xine/whatever to use jack, not kde directly |
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| 16:26.54 | ztcptxm1bx | hmm... there's no way I can get superkaramba to work on kde4, is there? |
| 16:27.03 | thiago | shamus397: you had not mentioend JACK support being broken |
| 16:27.24 | thiago | and, like pino says, that's not KDE's job to support JACK either |
| 16:27.32 | Ralesk | 15:39:15 < shamus397> With 4.1.3 I could use qjackctl, but now solid grabs hw:0 and won't let go |
| 16:27.41 | shamus397 | TY |
| 16:27.49 | Ralesk | I think this is what he means by "JACK support" |
| 16:28.06 | Ralesk | I'd say more like "getting in JACK's way somehow" :) |
| 16:28.07 | shamus397 | JACK shows up in SystemSettings too |
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| 16:28.53 | pinotree | because the multimedia backend (gstreamer/xine/whatever) lists it as possible audio output |
| 16:29.25 | pinotree | so kde let you choose the audio output for that backend -- but the responsibility for doing the actual connection and usage of that audio port is backend's |
| 16:30.05 | shamus397 | Still, KDE is grabbing hw:0 and not letting anything else use it |
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| 16:30.20 | pinotree | still, kde is *not* grabbing anything on its own. |
| 16:31.00 | shamus397 | So what you're saying is I have to kill solid to use hw:0? |
| 16:31.14 | shamus397 | There is no other choice that I can see in SystemSettings |
| 16:31.17 | pinotree | solid does not manage audio outputs |
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| 16:31.42 | shamus397 | Whichever piece of the pie does it--that would have to be killed, no? |
| 16:32.11 | MerryChristmas | if anything is blocking output |
| 16:32.18 | MerryChristmas | then chances are you don't have hardware mixing on your soundcard |
| 16:32.23 | MerryChristmas | and need to set up software mixing |
| 16:32.33 | MerryChristmas | ala dmix |
| 16:32.41 | pinotree | instead of thinking just about "killing", what about a) finding out what is the current phonon backend used b) configuring proprly that multimedia system? |
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| 16:34.22 | shamus397 | The backend here is Xine. And I haven't touched it since upgraded from 4.1.3 to 4.1.85 |
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| 16:35.01 | burgua | hi all! how to enable "kde global sortcuts daemon"? |
| 16:35.03 | shamus397 | And I see no options to configure it in SystemSettings |
| 16:35.44 | cenuij | burps |
| 16:35.47 | cenuij | happy holidays! |
| 16:35.54 | cenuij | Beer load [ \ ] 45% |
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| 16:45.09 | shamus397 | There has got to be a better way. Granted I don't know what that would look like, but *anything* has to be better than this. |
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| 17:01.49 | oldpond | anyone know why in kde 4.1.3 many apps have menus that say "No text"? |
| 17:04.00 | pok4 | All Steam Games for week : www.7steam.xoxgo.com |
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| 17:07.09 | shamus397 | Hmm, I guess the reason I never had problems in the past is that I just killed arts and did without sound on KDE3. Though I never had a problem with 4.1.x, I could always start qjackctl when I needed it. Oh well. I guess I'll just go FOAD |
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| 17:12.44 | oldpond | anyone know why in kde 4.1.3 many apps have menus that say "No text"? |
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| 17:20.39 | Ralesk | what is solid a dependency of? so far neither kdelibs nor kdebase complained about the lack of it... I wonder which of the core packages will depend or soft depend on it. |
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| 17:48.31 | Cappyyyy | KDED fails to start , im with KDE 3.5.9 -> http://pastebin.com/d22375eb9 |
| 17:48.44 | illogical | then switch to 4.2! |
| 17:48.50 | illogical | ahahahaahahahaha. |
| 17:48.55 | Cappyyyy | lol |
| 17:48.57 | Cappyyyy | i don't want |
| 17:49.09 | Cappyyyy | at least not now.. |
| 17:49.17 | Cappyyyy | i still like old KDE |
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| 17:50.03 | illogical | Cappyyyy: looks like a problem with the avahi daemon |
| 17:50.08 | illogical | shrugs. |
| 17:50.16 | illogical | try turning it off maybe ? |
| 17:50.21 | illogical | or recompile? |
| 17:50.37 | illogical | probably something to reports to the gentoo bug tracker. |
| 17:52.09 | Cappyyyy | i will try to turn it off |
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| 17:52.40 | Cappyyyy | but when i remove avahi from make.conf USE flags ,2 blocks appear in portage, Avahi is blocking mDNSresponder |
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| 17:52.55 | Cappyyyy | anyway, that's not for here ;p |
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| 17:55.23 | Cappyyyy | xxxxxxxxxx.... avahi daemon wasn't started.... |
| 17:55.24 | Cappyyyy | :D |
| 17:55.56 | illogical | Cappyyyy: report a bug to bugs.kde.org then. |
| 17:56.01 | shepherd | umm how do I let someone view my desktop with kde4 ? |
| 17:56.11 | shepherd | without using that desktop sharing thing with the invitations and stuff |
| 17:56.24 | illogical | kded shouldn't crash for that. |
| 17:56.42 | Cappyyyy | illogical: because avahi daemon isn't started ? |
| 17:57.09 | Cappyyyy | why not ? it's logical, welll may there prints error that daemon isn't started :) |
| 17:57.27 | illogical | Cappyyyy: no, report a bug about kded crashing if avahi-daemon isn't started. |
| 17:57.27 | Cappyyyy | now kded doesn't crash |
| 17:57.35 | illogical | crashing is the wrong thing to do. |
| 17:57.37 | Cappyyyy | ok i will |
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| 17:58.09 | illogical | especially since kded takes cares of many other things, like keyboard shortcuts. |
| 17:58.57 | Cappyyyy | yup... and :// protocols in konqueror |
| 17:59.06 | Cappyyyy | like media:// |
| 17:59.25 | Cappyyyy | i was wondering why they doesn't work since last week |
| 17:59.41 | Cappyyyy | now they are ok |
| 17:59.41 | illogical | Cappyyyy: good job figuring it all out :-) |
| 18:00.00 | illogical | Cappyyyy: just curious. what are you missing from kde 4, that keeps you in 3? |
| 18:00.44 | Cappyyyy | well.... i still didn't saw KDE 4.2 ,but in KDE 4.1.3 i think that there is bug in kicker menu |
| 18:01.35 | Cappyyyy | specially systray ... its using all free space in panel |
| 18:01.47 | Cappyyyy | and I cant move it to corner |
| 18:01.57 | Cappyyyy | it just stay at center of free space.... |
| 18:02.22 | Cappyyyy | examp if i got empty panel and add sys tray, it will stay at the center of panel ,and you can't move it to the corners |
| 18:02.28 | Cappyyyy | that's very annoying |
| 18:02.59 | illogical | Cappyyyy: you can move it. |
| 18:03.08 | Cappyyyy | no i can't |
| 18:03.09 | illogical | unlock the panel first |
| 18:03.14 | Cappyyyy | Its unlocked |
| 18:03.24 | Cappyyyy | i move it, and when i drop it , its back in the center |
| 18:03.51 | Cappyyyy | i can show you later, when i report bug and switch to KDE 4 |
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| 18:04.55 | Cappyyyy | wait 10 mins cause i forgot bugzilla's password ;p |
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| 18:27.34 | miya | Does anybody knows if it's common that kde4 is so slow using nvidia card ? |
| 18:27.44 | miya | I've got one of those nvidia mx 4400 cards |
| 18:27.49 | Psi-Jack | Is there any special magic needed to get PulseAudio started during KDE3/4 initialization from a kdm session? |
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| 18:30.14 | saemLaptop | Psi-Jack: Are you sure PA is not starting? |
| 18:30.26 | Psi-Jack | Yes |
| 18:30.49 | Psi-Jack | It doesn't auto-start in my opensuse 11.0 configuration. I see no means for it to. ;) |
| 18:31.11 | saemLaptop | Ah |
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| 18:41.06 | boloco | hi, all |
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| 19:00.50 | mfilipe[suse] | hi! my kde-twitter is with the font is black but I want white. how do I do? |
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| 19:08.33 | MostafaDaneshvar | hello |
| 19:08.54 | MostafaDaneshvar | this is my Kwin crash report http://pastebin.com/m5fe2ba92 |
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| 19:25.01 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 19:25.16 | Ronis_BR | my strigi has completed the index. how i can use it to search the files content? |
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| 19:38.40 | seto | hi all, I am using kde4, and don't find how to launch an application with the voice, (is that possible in kde4?) |
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| 20:23.46 | MaNI | is okular meant to be able to save the information filled into a pdf that has "fillable forms" or is saving of this not yet implemented? |
| 20:24.36 | pinotree | MaNI: it does |
| 20:24.53 | MaNI | hmm, what version? |
| 20:25.01 | pinotree | 0.7 |
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| 20:25.58 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 20:26.01 | pinotree | what is the problem you get? |
| 20:26.06 | Ronis_BR | how i can unpack / modify skz filez |
| 20:26.24 | MaNI | am saving a pdf here and all the information I have filled into the form dissapears when I open it again |
| 20:26.35 | SSJ_GZ | Ronis_BR: They are zip files, iirc. |
| 20:26.46 | Ronis_BR | ok |
| 20:26.47 | pinotree | Ronis_BR: you don't unpack them, just open them with superkaramba |
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| 20:28.44 | pinotree | MaNI: can i look at the pdf or is it private? |
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| 20:29.14 | MaNI | not private |
| 20:29.33 | MaNI | can give you a link to it |
| 20:29.37 | pinotree | sure |
| 20:29.46 | MaNI | http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM1294B.PDF |
| 20:31.25 | pinotree | had another one called IMM1344EA.pdf |
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| 20:36.25 | MaNI | I am using "save copy as" not "save as" because "save as" refuses to work for me at all. Not sure if that makes a difference |
| 20:36.53 | pinotree | "save copy as" copies the document verbatim as it was opened, not a single byte different |
| 20:37.00 | pinotree | you need to use "save as" |
| 20:37.11 | MaNI | mm |
| 20:37.16 | MaNI | okay makes sense I guess |
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| 20:39.29 | MaNI | save as tells me "File could not be saved in '/home/xxx/yyy/z.PDF'. Try to save it to another location." |
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| 20:39.49 | MaNI | konsole spits out a bunch of "Annotation widget not supported" messages. not sure if the two are related |
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| 20:40.41 | pinotree | MaNI: using the "save copy as"? |
| 20:41.42 | MaNI | hmm no that is with "save as" |
| 20:41.57 | MaNI | "save copy as" works but as you say does not save the filled in information |
| 20:42.09 | soa2ii | Hi there! If you want to play midi sounds... is that part of Qt or do I have to choose smth else? |
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| 21:00.10 | chrome_ | need to be in hexa? |
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| 21:18.44 | krushia | is it possible to make kde's global shortcuts work from full screen games? |
| 21:20.29 | krushia | like some sort of magical wrapper that lets kwin see what keys i'm smashing even though the application is hijacking the keyboard |
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| 21:31.48 | Nikerabbit | waa |
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| 21:37.21 | Nikerabbit | chrome_: ok I'm a doctor. is you finger bleeding? do you have an headache? |
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| 21:40.11 | chrome_ | WPA keys... |
| 21:40.14 | chrome_ | how do I put them |
| 21:40.19 | chrome_ | and where |
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| 21:42.32 | Nikerabbit | chrome_: no idea, sorry |
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| 21:48.30 | lordnoid | does anyone know if it's possible to use tabs instead of a sidebar in Kate? |
| 21:48.40 | lordnoid | using kate 3.1.85 in KDE 4.2 |
| 21:49.25 | hdevalence | lordnoid: yes |
| 21:49.34 | lordnoid | hdevalence, how? :) |
| 21:50.18 | hdevalence | settings>configure kate>application>plugins>kate tab bar extension |
| 21:50.30 | hdevalence | then just close the sidebar |
| 21:50.42 | lordnoid | I don't have the tab bar extension |
| 21:50.55 | hdevalence | it's not on the list? |
| 21:51.02 | lordnoid | nope |
| 21:51.09 | lordnoid | I'm using the Kate from KDE 4.2 |
| 21:51.22 | lordnoid | as far as I know there's no kate-plugins package for that |
| 21:53.14 | lordnoid | I'll get the 3.5.9 kate :) |
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| 21:54.46 | scsiraider | does anyone know why I cant log into gmail with konq 4.1.85 and qt4.5 |
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| 21:56.17 | lordnoid | hdevalence, ah got it, was looking at Extension instead of Plugins.. thank you :) |
| 21:57.12 | hdevalence | lordnoid: np |
| 22:01.34 | hdevalence | does KDE websvn have a way to look at commits by a certain author? |
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| 22:13.05 | scsiraider | does anyone know why I cant log into anywebsite with konq 4.1.85 and qt4.5, it does not work with khtml or webkit |
| 22:15.39 | Ralesk | scsiraider: probably a problem with cookies, rather than konq, qt, khtml or webkit |
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| 22:16.37 | Ralesk | I don't know however what handles the cookie jar now in kde4, in the old days I think it was kded, so if that went down, konqueror stopped being able to log in |
| 22:16.57 | Ralesk | first check your cookie settings though, anyway |
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| 22:26.14 | scsiraider | Ralesk, k |
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| 22:29.44 | scsiraider | Ralesk, well i toggled cookies and deleted all the existing ones but no luck |
| 22:29.53 | Ralesk | hmmm |
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| 22:31.02 | Ralesk | hopefully someone else knows what's going on, I can't really help any more |
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| 22:34.40 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: I'm not sure if it's related, but I found chrome, webkit based, can't login to my linksys router's web interface. There is a slim chance that it's an engine issues |
| 22:35.55 | scsiraider | saemLaptop, i tired using khtml too and i get the same issue |
| 22:36.07 | scsiraider | but it works with FF |
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| 22:36.27 | scsiraider | i will rebuild auora and see if it happens with that |
| 22:36.47 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: That's my point, khtml and webkit share a fair bit, so it could be an issue with them |
| 22:36.56 | saemLaptop | I had to use firefox or ie to get it to work |
| 22:37.21 | scsiraider | i just seems fishy that it broke after update to qt4.5 |
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| 22:38.52 | saemLaptop | Entirely possible |
| 22:38.55 | scsiraider | saemLaptop, are there semi-working builds of chrome for linux now, i havent checked in over a month |
| 22:39.16 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: I was on windows at the time |
| 22:39.20 | scsiraider | ohh |
| 22:39.30 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: I did a google search, turns out I'm not the only one |
| 22:41.04 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: I just don't see how khtml would have been effected |
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| 22:42.27 | saemLaptop | scsiraider: Out of curiosity, can you disclose the site you're trying to get to? |
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| 23:16.02 | Shingoshi | For anyone who has had plasma crash. I've just found that using Alt-F2 for taskmanager and killing plasma from there, and restarting it is the only thing that has worked. |
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| 23:25.53 | hdevalence | can anyone reccomend a good KDE-based distro for a "ridiculously shitty" computer? |
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| 23:26.51 | Qrawl | wow |
| 23:27.04 | Qrawl | 4.2 is a big change |
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| 23:41.50 | sabayonlive-3396 | hello. i login to ROOT, and edit the file etc/x11/resolv.conf and save it |
| 23:41.54 | sabayonlive-3396 | when i restart my computer, it reverts back to the original |
| 23:41.59 | sabayonlive-3396 | does anyone know how to make it save permanently? |
| 23:44.39 | drantin | fix /etc/conf.d/net, but ask in #sabayon to be certain |
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| 23:49.20 | sabayonlive-3396 | DRATIN -so what would i type in there? |
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| 23:50.26 | drantin | sabayonlive-3396: this is not a sabayon support channel, please /join #sabayon |
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