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00:00.19 | colee | hello! |
00:00.26 | colee | Could I get help with KWin? |
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00:03.24 | freeedrich| | don't ask to ask |
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00:04.46 | colee | When I try to start KWin on the version of KDE 4 in Ubuntu Jaunty, it gives this error: |
00:04.49 | colee | kwin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwin.so: undefined symbol: _ZTI26KDecorationFactoryUnstable |
00:06.35 | colee | What can I do to fix it? |
00:07.56 | freeedrich| | Ask your distribution :/ |
00:08.06 | g2g591 | colee: this is a problem caused by Ubuntu, ask in #kubuntu |
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01:23.21 | PeterFA | KDE4 rocks: I am PeterFA and I approve of this statement. |
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01:26.59 | robbmunson | brb |
01:30.46 | RichiH | can anyone check if KDE 3's kpdf can opn dvi files? |
01:33.14 | luke-jr | RichiH: of course not? |
01:34.19 | RichiH | luke-jr: did you check? |
01:34.33 | luke-jr | no |
01:34.43 | RichiH | ... |
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01:36.54 | Ratfink | How do I tell KDE what keyboard I'm using? |
01:37.10 | Ratfink | (in 3.5.10) |
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01:42.32 | RichiH | luke-jr: so, could you try, please? |
01:43.59 | luke-jr | RichiH: no, I don't have KDE 3.5 |
01:44.32 | RichiH | k |
01:47.08 | SJr|Nbook | Can someone explain this screen garbage I keep getting in KDE4 on Kubuntu 8.10: http://sjrx.net/crap.png |
01:47.44 | luke-jr | SJr|Nbook: try xwininfo? |
01:48.08 | SJr|Nbook | Um? |
01:48.22 | SJr|Nbook | That did nothing |
01:48.25 | luke-jr | run xwininfo and click on the affected region |
01:48.31 | SJr|Nbook | um those are icons in my panel |
01:48.32 | luke-jr | at a terminal |
01:48.52 | luke-jr | icons for what, though? |
01:48.52 | SJr|Nbook | and there not windows, there just corrupted garbage, one of them is Adept, one is my CPU Battery |
01:49.03 | SJr|Nbook | The garbage occurs everywhere |
01:49.07 | luke-jr | system tray icons are windows, IIRC |
01:49.08 | SJr|Nbook | depending on what I'm doing |
01:49.13 | SJr|Nbook | whatever they are called in KDE |
01:49.15 | luke-jr | SJr|Nbook: what video card? |
01:49.24 | SJr|Nbook | It's in the picture |
01:49.36 | luke-jr | heh, so it is XD |
01:49.36 | SJr|Nbook | It also happens on my Nvidia 7400 Go |
01:49.54 | luke-jr | oh, so it's not related to the desktop effects? |
01:49.55 | SJr|Nbook | Before KDE renders a menu, I get that crap too. |
01:50.09 | SJr|Nbook | Also the outer strip of kdm shows the same weird crap. |
01:50.14 | SJr|Nbook | I turned most of them off |
01:50.18 | luke-jr | GEM or pre-GEM? |
01:50.25 | SJr|Nbook | GEM? |
01:50.50 | luke-jr | are you using 2.6.28? |
01:50.55 | SJr|Nbook | I think 27 |
01:51.04 | luke-jr | ok, GEM is .28+ only |
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01:51.19 | colee | hi, how do I change the clock to regular (NOT 24-hour) time? |
01:51.22 | Tman | the "scrollbar fix" for firefox doesn't work on my computer and I don't think it ever has.. I'm on 4.1.3 |
01:51.44 | Tman | the left & right borders of the bar still aren't updated correctly |
01:51.51 | g2g591 | colee: openup systemsettings and adjust stuff in region and locale |
01:51.56 | Tman | any ideas why? |
01:52.01 | SJr|Nbook | luke under System Settings -> Desktop Effects, I have that disabled. |
01:52.07 | luke-jr | Tman: this is #KDE not #Firefox |
01:52.21 | luke-jr | SJr|Nbook: sorry, I'm out of ideas |
01:52.40 | Tman | well the scrollbar fix is something installed by KDE in System Settings, and seems to be specific to KDE/Qt themes |
01:53.08 | luke-jr | Tman: and has nothing to do with Firefox then |
01:53.30 | Tman | luke-jr: the dialog specifically says scrollbar fix for Firefox and Thunderbird |
01:53.45 | Tman | because that's the only place it occurs apparently |
01:53.52 | luke-jr | Tman: you must be talking about some add-on or such |
01:53.58 | luke-jr | there is nothing like that in normal KDE |
01:54.59 | Tman | it's in the GTK settings panel, I think you may have to have gtk-engines-qt installed |
01:55.28 | luke-jr | still not KDE |
01:55.40 | Tman | what then :/ |
01:56.36 | luke-jr | gtk-engines-qt? |
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01:57.44 | Tman | k just found its website. doesn't have much support it looks like |
01:58.29 | luke-jr | easier to use Konqueror ⺠|
01:59.22 | Tman | hah :p to each his own |
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02:05.39 | jnmbk | hi, I just started using 4.2 beta2 and somehow clock applet stopped working. It doesn't display anything... Did anyone got the same thing? |
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02:13.50 | jnmbk | I guess, I'll have to make my own applet :P |
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02:32.08 | dagobart | I've got an issue with umlauts, maybe anyone can help? |
02:32.35 | dagobart | I've googled already, however, the solutions I found focus on UTF-8/ISO 8859-1(5) encoding issues. |
02:33.30 | dagobart | But what I get is: Umlauts get correctly displayed in font selection dialogues, but if I type them I get rectangles |
02:33.44 | dagobart | Any ideas? |
02:34.56 | Tman | i think there was some discussion online about them but not sure about it |
02:35.08 | Tman | umlauts in kde that is |
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02:35.47 | Tman | anyone know why the opengl screensavers in kscreensaver seem to be extremely slow? it's definitely not a hardware limitation |
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02:38.17 | animeloe | because your not using hardware acceleration |
02:38.22 | animeloe | what does glxinfo give? |
02:39.21 | Tman | direct rendering: Yes |
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02:40.49 | Tman | i have opengl effects and everything going (KDE4) and performance is great |
02:42.11 | Tman | hmm yep, turning effects off does improve the performance dramatically |
02:42.22 | Tman | although it really shouldn't |
02:43.05 | Tman | oddly enough, now that i reenabled them it works fine. |
02:43.50 | Tman | occasionally it turns my screens to mostly white though and displays what looks like a 800x600 version in the upper left corner, for no apparent reason |
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02:47.50 | mewshi | hi |
02:47.56 | mewshi | how do I get screensavers in KDE4? |
02:48.05 | luke-jr | install them |
02:49.13 | mewshi | I have screensavers, but they don't show up |
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02:57.21 | dagobart | Tman thanks for *that* hint ;) Now, it works again; however I fail to see why. |
02:58.49 | Tman | dunno :s I don't need or use them so i haven't looked into it |
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03:08.03 | mewshi | is there a way to add an application icon to the widget dashboard? |
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03:12.35 | dagobart | Tman: np |
03:13.07 | stoned | hello |
03:13.12 | stoned | chatroom |
03:13.14 | stoned | whats up! |
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03:32.49 | gurpreet | hi |
03:33.21 | hba | hi all, does kde-3.5.10 suport utf-8? |
03:33.51 | luke-jr | of course |
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03:34.23 | gurpreet | i am running kde 4.1.2 on my desktop and its very slow and sluggish, can i make it faster by removing some of the graphics and eye candy? |
03:34.44 | gurpreet | kde3.5 used to run fine on my machine |
03:34.48 | hba | luke-jr: ok, im gonna give a try with an utf-8 locale :) |
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03:35.33 | luke-jr | hba: note KDE 3.5.10 is obsolete tho |
03:37.59 | gurpreet | i wanna run kde4 itself, but without too much graphic effects |
03:39.31 | hba | luke-jr: not in slackware ;) |
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03:40.45 | Hellow | Hell |
03:40.47 | Hellow | o* |
03:41.08 | Hellow | How would I use Compiz in place of the compositor that comes with KDE4 Beta 2? |
03:42.07 | luke-jr | Hellow: sounds like a lame idea |
03:42.31 | Hellow | I am used to compiz, and it, to me, seems to have better performance |
03:44.44 | Simkin | Hellow: you should be able to compiz --replace |
03:44.46 | Simkin | or use fusion-icon |
03:44.47 | gurpreet | how can i make kde4 run faster? |
03:45.38 | Simkin | gurpreet: be more specific. what do you find slow? |
03:45.45 | Hellow | fusion-icon replaces the window decorator that comes with kde with emerald |
03:46.04 | gurpreet | the whole desktop is slow |
03:47.36 | gurpreet | like window moving is slow, window loading is slow, even moving control between icons in dolphin is sluggish |
03:52.38 | Hellow | Well, can anyone help? |
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03:58.01 | Hellow | well? |
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04:00.25 | alanhaggai | Hi. How can I enter unicode characters in any KDE application? (KDE 3.5.10) |
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04:25.02 | Conflict_80 | where do turn off the bouncing application icon next to the mouse pointer when you start a proig |
04:25.07 | Conflict_80 | prog* |
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04:27.58 | drantin | systemsettings->Desktop->Launch Feedback |
04:28.00 | drantin | Conflict_80: ^^ |
04:28.07 | Conflict_80 | Yayz :) |
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04:29.50 | Conflict_80 | cool cool, since updating firefox it was lingering for LONG time, the bouncy icon, kinda annoying :) |
04:30.29 | drantin | shouldn't have been more than 30seconds by default |
04:30.36 | drantin | but I get the same thing ;) |
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04:33.52 | alanhaggai | Hi. How can I enter unicode characters in any KDE application? (KDE 3.5.10) |
04:34.30 | drantin | enable keyboard layouts and set a compose key? |
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04:34.54 | alanhaggai | drantin: I will try that. |
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04:35.14 | drantin | alanhaggai: also, google up on the key combinations for the comose key |
04:35.26 | alanhaggai | drantin: Alright. Thank you. |
04:35.50 | drantin | compose* |
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04:58.58 | poopix | Is it hard to uninstall KDE from windows once it is installed? It seems like it'd be weird considering what it is and how Windows acts, and I just want to make sure that if it doesn't turn out how I like that I can easily go back. |
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05:01.38 | crazy_pete | can u even install kde on wincrap? |
05:05.03 | poopix | Yeah, I just found this: http://winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/installer/ |
05:06.09 | poopix | I am unfortunately brutely forced to use windows, so I'm hoping that I'd be able to easy the pain by using KDE, but I want to make sure its all good before I try it. |
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05:06.49 | albe123 | hi |
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05:09.45 | drantin | poopix: been to the kde windows channel? #kde-windows iirc |
05:10.48 | poopix | Did not know about that, thanks. |
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05:18.29 | Aaron_ | how can I allow someone to view my actual desktop with vnc? is there something kde related i have to do ? |
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05:24.22 | drantin | it's the vncserver's fault I think... there's a particular one that serves up the currently running x server, can't recall which... |
05:24.44 | drantin | x11vnc |
05:24.48 | drantin | Aaron_: ^^ |
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05:27.18 | drantin | Aaron_: or the tools linked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11vnc |
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05:40.20 | johnny69 | Damn Video capture card and Kdetv suddenly started showing nothing but black&white video. (Xp shows video as normal) When it happens it even effects the playback of avi's in Xine! WTF??!?! Grrrrr |
05:40.49 | Aaron_ | drantin: Thank you :D:D |
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05:44.16 | tjtag | channel #sabayon |
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06:13.45 | erik-k | Just found out how to make the taskbar/panel always on top... at last! |
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06:21.58 | erik-k | Woa... uh, I just figured these panels out and, well, I've crashed Plasma half a dozen times in the last 5 minutes. |
06:22.13 | erik-k | I know it restarts itself and I don't lose anything and all, but... |
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06:27.12 | erik-k | It seems that trying to remove that poor analog clock crashes it reliably. |
06:27.14 | erik-k | (for me) |
06:29.02 | zeltak | hi, anybody using akondi yet? |
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07:26.42 | Guest63619 | hey |
07:26.53 | Guest63619 | how i go to other channel |
07:27.00 | Guest63619 | what is the command |
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07:50.03 | TheLorax | where can I find a list of kde applications for kde 4.x? I didn't even know about okular, I was trying to get kpdf. |
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07:59.45 | egibbs | how to get rid of the image on the left side of the menu |
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08:04.41 | jesse__ | Pidgin |
08:05.02 | jesse__ | i need help |
08:05.06 | jesse__ | ??? |
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08:11.28 | drantin | o_O |
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08:40.14 | farhad_hf | hi |
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09:01.20 | farhad_hf | hi , when i try to use svn up command in KDE/kdenetwork i have this error : "svn: Can't open 'cmake/modules/.svn/tmp/FindLibMeanwhile.cmake.tmp': No such file or directory" (its not exactly about KDE !, sorry :) ) |
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09:15.57 | J-23 | Hi! |
09:16.09 | J-23 | is it possible to have application shortcut on panel? |
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09:17.17 | farhad_hf | J-23: just drag icons from menu to panel |
09:17.33 | J-23 | thanks. |
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09:27.37 | farhad_hf | does anyone have problems with akonadi here ? every time i start kopete or login akonadi starts and gives me errors . "No resource agents found" and "mysql server log contains errors" |
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09:28.10 | maazu | sorry, i have neither |
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10:00.24 | maazu | news! |
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10:44.12 | docx_ | hi, has anybody experience with when click to url (eg in konversation or kopete window), kde willn't open it direct in browser, but download it throught kio and then open file from /tmp ? |
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10:46.29 | gkiagia | docx_: is it an html document or not? |
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10:46.45 | docx_ | gkiagia: yes it is |
10:46.56 | gkiagia | strange |
10:47.16 | gkiagia | must be the server's fault imho... it reports wrong mimetype |
10:47.32 | gkiagia | kio indeed pre-fetches the file |
10:47.47 | gkiagia | and then decides what to do according to the file's mime type |
10:47.58 | docx_ | gkiagia: no, this behavior is for all pages |
10:48.05 | docx_ | gkiagia: eg www.google.com |
10:48.47 | gkiagia | are you running konversation from kde3 on kde4 maybe? |
10:49.12 | docx_ | it's strange indeed.. i dont know where to setup this, in default applications i have firefox for webbrowser |
10:49.30 | gkiagia | hmmm |
10:49.31 | docx_ | gkiagia: konversation from kde3, but the same is for kopete from kde4 |
10:49.51 | gkiagia | might be a bug with kio and firefox cooperation |
10:50.04 | gkiagia | can you try changing to konqueror and see if it works? |
10:50.26 | docx_ | gkiagia: ye, and in other profile is this normal |
10:50.50 | gkiagia | on what distro and kde version? |
10:51.33 | docx_ | gkiagia: ubuntu, kde from trunk.. but it must be somewhere in user settings of kde.. when i log as other user its fine |
10:52.30 | gkiagia | with other user and firefox as a webbrowser it works? |
10:53.08 | docx_ | gkiagia: yes |
10:53.30 | gkiagia | hmmm |
10:54.23 | docx_ | gkiagia: but settings seems to be ok.. in file associations i have firefox too for text/html and application/xhtml+xml |
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10:56.25 | gkiagia | docx_: is that the same with the other user as well? |
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10:56.38 | gkiagia | I don't know what can cause this.... |
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10:57.32 | docx_ | gkiagia: maybe you can read somethink from this: file:///var/tmp/kdecache-docxjWwiR8/krun/9038.0. it's the file where kio download the page (here it is google.com) |
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10:59.41 | docx_ | so, i have no choice than to clear my ~/.kde :( |
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11:01.45 | gkiagia | docx_: no, keep it and file a bug |
11:02.21 | gkiagia | keep it even in another place, it will help to track down the bug |
11:02.42 | docx_ | gkiagia: but i'm not sure if it is bug.. maybe only corrupted my settings |
11:03.22 | docx_ | gkiagia: and i dont know why and when it started :( |
11:03.34 | gkiagia | kio should never act like this on http, it is a bug imho |
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11:36.28 | fale_ | xvello: nope, juk does not work either |
11:36.39 | fale_ | than, I guess, is a kde-core bug |
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11:47.33 | neeku | hi |
11:47.41 | fale_ | hi neeku |
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11:47.50 | fale_ | hi cenuij |
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11:48.17 | fale_ | hi iomari |
11:48.36 | neeku | fale_: i've downloaded update files for kde 4.1.3 from here: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/STABLE:/Desktop/openSUSE_11.0/i586/ but a few of them are remaining. is it possible to update the downloaded ones? |
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11:48.52 | jazka | why did you download them manually? |
11:49.16 | fale_ | neeku: you should use yum |
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11:49.27 | fale_ | hi habarnam |
11:49.33 | jazka | indeed, there's one-click-installer for kde 4.1.3 |
11:49.40 | neeku | fale_: yum filename] ? |
11:49.49 | jazka | http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4#STABLE_KDE_Project_.28KDE_4.1.3.29 |
11:49.53 | jazka | â neeku |
11:49.58 | fale_ | neeku: I dunno the exact command because I have never used suse |
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11:50.43 | fale_ | hi pinotree |
11:50.53 | fale_ | hi Pullarotta^ |
11:51.20 | pinotree | neeku: you should ask in #opensuse-kde, we don't support distro packages |
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11:53.37 | fale_ | afaik |
11:53.42 | fale_ | *afk |
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12:15.02 | kim0 | powerdevil worked a couple of times .. but now doesn't suspend when I closed the laptop lid .. How do I begin to debug this ?! |
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12:18.45 | jnmbk | Hi, I'm using 4.2 beta2 and have problem with clock plasmoids. digital-clock doesn't display anything, analog clock shows 12 o'clock everytime... |
12:19.54 | jnmbk | I think that happened after changing regional settings... |
12:20.58 | jnmbk | Is there any chance that I can get a useful output of what's wrong? |
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12:23.14 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
12:23.19 | Ace2016_- | any info on when we'll get kde4? |
12:23.20 | Ace2016_- | err |
12:23.25 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: If you could start with a blank user and work out the steps to reproduce it, that would be very useful. |
12:23.29 | Half-Left | jnmbk: Try Regional & Language in system settings |
12:23.32 | Ace2016_- | any info on when we'll get domino for kde4 |
12:24.15 | Half-Left | Ace2016_-: It's not from KDE so no |
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12:24.45 | Ace2016_- | :( |
12:25.19 | Half-Left | Ask the author |
12:25.20 | jnmbk | Does KDE use translated strings in QDateTime.fromString() ? |
12:25.24 | Ace2016_- | i think Sho_ knows the person who created domino, maybe he knows what the current status of it is |
12:25.50 | Sho_ | Sadly I haven't been in contact with Michael for a while now either |
12:26.34 | Ace2016_- | :( |
12:26.50 | jnmbk | I'll relog.. |
12:26.52 | SSJ_GZ | Ace2016_-: http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/domino-window-decoration-ported-to-kde-4/ |
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12:28.54 | jnmbk | SSJ_GZ: it started working after switching to english |
12:29.13 | jnmbk | is it a problem of those applets or translations? |
12:29.24 | jnmbk | why do they take translated strings? |
12:30.42 | Ace2016_- | well i was after the widget style |
12:31.18 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: If you can find a reproducible test case starting from a blank user, please file a bug report. |
12:31.36 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: Or submit a patch - looks like you might have a theory about whats' going wrong :) |
12:32.15 | jnmbk | ok, switching to Turkish locale is enough for reproducing but I'll look at the code if I can find it |
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12:32.23 | SSJ_GZ | Cool :) |
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12:33.29 | jnmbk | SSJ_GZ: do you know which directory in svn contains those plasmoids? |
12:34.02 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: One moment ... |
12:34.30 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/analog-clock/, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/digital-clock/ but ... |
12:34.36 | jnmbk | ok |
12:34.42 | SSJ_GZ | jnmbk: It might be a problem in the dataengine itself: |
12:35.02 | SSJ_GZ | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/dataengines/time/ |
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12:39.39 | jnmbk | Hmm, not here, it may be in regional settings gui... |
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13:01.11 | tuxick | i suppose there isn't going to be a kde 4.1.4 ? |
13:02.17 | icwiener | tuxick: There will, around 10th of January. |
13:02.35 | tuxick | ah |
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13:02.57 | tuxick | maybe then i'll finally be able to run kmail with effects enabled :) |
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13:09.18 | cenuij | you know that bug apparently where X will randomly start thrashing your CPU or at least one CPU core at almost 100% utilisation? |
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13:13.42 | cenuij | that was an incredibly ambiguous statement :> |
13:14.04 | cenuij | sadly áº"that bug" could mean one of many :< |
13:16.33 | tuxick | cenuij: sure it's not nvidia screwing up again? |
13:16.43 | tuxick | i've seen this happen |
13:16.49 | tuxick | can easily reproduce too |
13:16.52 | cenuij | tuxick: there was a load of reports about that on nvnews |
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13:16.59 | tuxick | yeah |
13:17.04 | tuxick | i can easily reproduce |
13:17.15 | cenuij | i can reproduce it every time, this one is a kontact/kmail thing |
13:17.19 | tuxick | enable effects in kde-4.1.3 and then start kmail |
13:17.24 | tuxick | same one then |
13:17.37 | cenuij | only happens under once condition as far as i can gather |
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13:18.09 | cenuij | if you minimize kontact/kmail to tray by clicking the close button on the window bar, then mouse over the systray |
13:18.15 | tuxick | on bugtracker it's considered a kwin issue, btw |
13:18.23 | cenuij | doesnt happen if its maximised and you mousever the tray |
13:18.28 | tuxick | hmm |
13:18.38 | tuxick | i don't get that far |
13:18.48 | tuxick | as soon as i'd start kmail it's the end of kde/x |
13:18.57 | cenuij | ok, that was what i was about to ask, which componenet this might be already filed under |
13:19.14 | tuxick | there's a few related bug reports |
13:19.37 | cenuij | alright, thanks i'll go browse the open kwin issues |
13:19.52 | tuxick | ow |
13:20.28 | tuxick | can't find it now |
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13:20.34 | tuxick | oh well, must go shopping |
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13:54.16 | Psi-Jack | How does phonon integrate with xine, per-se. I'm going to guess that phonon overrides settings put into ~/.xine/config, correct? |
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13:58.50 | cenuij | tuxick: fyi, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177985 |
13:59.21 | cenuij | tuxick: Can work around it by disabling "Minimize" desktop effect |
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14:00.17 | cenuij | tuxick: though changing desktop effect settings with effects enabled still brings down my whole desktop + keyboard :< |
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14:13.22 | DawnLight | quanta+ is not develoed anymore, is it? |
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14:20.58 | SSJ_GZ | DawnLight: It looks like people are keeping it compiling, but no substantial development is being done that I can see. |
14:21.29 | tdi_k | my panel is haunted - when I log-in there is about 2xiconwidth empty space between the right corner and the right most applet. when I unlock the widgets this space is gone until the next login ... can anyone help me get rid of this problem? |
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14:22.22 | tdi_k | DawnLight: the last I read about was that some components were going into kdevplatform ... |
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14:24.59 | DawnLight | thanks |
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14:25.46 | DawnLight | does anyone know how i can make my yakuake sound the bell? it doesn't seem to integrate into kde notifications |
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14:27.50 | Sho_ | DawnLight: Yakuake embeds the Konsole KPart component. In the KDE 3 version, the Konsole KPart had bell settings. In the KDE 4 version, this was apparently moved out of the KPart to the Konsole main app, so you sadly can't set up a bell in Yakuake anymore. |
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14:42.22 | lenscape | KDE4 has lots of nice ideas but it is well short of ready for use. Way too much not working or simply not there |
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14:45.05 | hyper_ch | how can I make open an application on a specific desktop? |
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14:46.38 | lenscape | hyper_ch: which KDE? |
14:47.12 | hyper_ch | 4.2 beta 2 |
14:47.23 | lenscape | hyper_ch: KDE3.x it's easy. 4.x dunno |
14:47.35 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
14:47.48 | Ace2016_- | to compile a kde3 theme do i need libkde4-dev? |
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14:48.05 | Ace2016_- | i tried to install it but it tries to remove libkde5 |
14:48.07 | lenscape | hyper_ch: in top left corner of window is there a menu "Advanced"? |
14:48.42 | hyper_ch | lenscape: I'll have a look |
14:49.15 | Ace2016_- | kdelibs4-dev, is it needed to compile qtcurve-kde3? |
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14:49.58 | Jucato | Ace2016_-: depending on your distro, kdelibs4 might be KDE 3 kdelibs. and depending on your distro, you might not be able to have both installed |
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14:50.13 | Ace2016_- | Jucato: :( |
14:50.28 | Jucato | lenscape, hyper_ch: same way it was in KDE 3. kstart or through window specific rules |
14:50.30 | PovAddict | can the quote header in KMail be changed? |
14:50.43 | PovAddict | it mixes Spanish and English and doesn't show the author's name |
14:50.51 | hyper_ch | Jucato: never figured out how to do it in kde 3 :) |
14:50.56 | PovAddict | El Saturday 27 December 2008 04:08:54 escribió: |
14:51.10 | lenscape | Jucato: kstart. I remember that now. |
14:51.12 | Jucato | hyper_ch: right-click on the title bar -> Advanced -> Special Window (or Application) Settings |
14:51.40 | Jucato | of course presuming you're using kwin |
14:51.41 | lenscape | I'd forgotten about kstart. Handy little tool |
14:53.28 | Jucato | PovAddict: you can change templates either globally or per identity. Settings -> Configure KMail -> Identity -> Edit -> Templates tab (per identity) or Configure KMail -> Composer -> Standard Templates tab (global) |
14:53.58 | PovAddict | nice, that's more configurable than I expected |
14:54.09 | PovAddict | wonder why the hell it was set to Spanish text with an English date inside... -_- |
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14:54.31 | hyper_ch | Jucato: hmmm... trying to get amarok nightly to start in desktop 3.... |
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14:55.24 | hyper_ch | Jucato: I think I got it now :) |
14:55.26 | Jucato | hyper_ch: Special Application Settings -> Geometry tab (it's opened by default) -> Desktop set to Force and 3: Desktop 3 |
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14:56.26 | hyper_ch | it worked :) |
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15:04.30 | tdi_k | is it normal that youtube does not work in konqueror and flash 10 ? |
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15:09.54 | Jucato | even if you search/filter them? |
15:10.11 | PovAddict | yep, that's actually how I notice |
15:10.22 | Jucato | weird |
15:10.37 | PovAddict | oh, if I set it to "always keep threads open", all messages show |
15:10.43 | PovAddict | even though I DISABLED THREADS |
15:11.06 | PovAddict | some KDE programs make me want to boot Windows |
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15:18.58 | tdi_k | re . So am I the only one who can't view videos in youtube with konqueror and flash plugin 10 ? |
15:20.28 | Fish | no |
15:20.44 | Fish | youtube never worked well with konqueror |
15:21.14 | PovAddict | works for me on Konqueror 3, Flash 9 |
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15:21.30 | PovAddict | except some JS in youtube makes Konqueror hang for long enough to show the "some script is taking a long time" popup |
15:21.49 | Fish | with konqueror 3 and flash 9 flash crash after playing the video |
15:22.00 | Fish | with konqueror 4 and flash 10, the video doesn't start |
15:22.34 | tdi_k | It's quite a strange problem actualy |
15:22.49 | tdi_k | most video sharing sites work, it's just youtube's player |
15:22.56 | Fish | the flash plugin is a bit bugged I think |
15:23.31 | hyper_ch | well, flash 10 64bit runs fine for me |
15:23.33 | Jucato | works for me Konqueror 4 Flash 10, but not 100% |
15:23.48 | hyper_ch | at least in FF I don't have every now and then to kill it and restart it |
15:24.44 | tdi_k | hyper_ch, Jucato: so you can watch youtube with konqueror 4 and flash 10 ? |
15:24.51 | PovAddict | tried downgrade to flash9? |
15:24.57 | Jucato | tdi_k: yes, but not always |
15:24.58 | Fish | tdi_k: it works sometimes for me |
15:25.01 | hyper_ch | tdi_k: nah, haven't tried in konqui |
15:25.05 | Jucato | sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
15:25.08 | tdi_k | PovAddict: I've upgraded minutes ago :D |
15:25.16 | Fish | I revert to firefox for youtube |
15:26.11 | PovAddict | I use Firefox for Facebook |
15:26.20 | PovAddict | the ajaxy stuff doesn't work in Konqueror (at least on v3) |
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15:27.08 | hyper_ch | yeah, JS is really bad in Konqui... :( |
15:28.04 | Nikerabbit | not that their all ajaxy stuff would work even in firefox |
15:28.39 | PovAddict | Nikerabbit: let's make a kfacebook desktop app! |
15:28.47 | Jucato | facebook is quite usable in konqueror 4 atm |
15:28.57 | Pinaraf | hyper_ch: ho not that much |
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15:29.37 | Nikerabbit | why would anybody on their own will donate their private life to proprietary platform/company |
15:29.43 | tdi_k | As about facebook it depends on the apps you use. The face book UI itself almost works ... |
15:30.17 | PovAddict | tdi_k: I don't use any 3rd party app on it |
15:30.18 | tdi_k | But it's sad, that javascript support in konqueror is that bad .. |
15:30.34 | PovAddict | well i have one or two really simple ones |
15:30.37 | hyper_ch | Nikerabbit: some people are just lonely and that's the only meaning they have in their life |
15:30.53 | PovAddict | hyper_ch: yea that's me |
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15:31.11 | hyper_ch | PovAddict: you have another meaning :) |
15:31.21 | PovAddict | yea coding |
15:31.32 | hyper_ch | PovAddict: and providing support here :) |
15:31.39 | tdi_k | I think the problem with flash and youtube is because youtube tells the player to load the movie per javascript ... |
15:31.49 | PovAddict | I joined facebook to get a semblance of a social life |
15:31.50 | hyper_ch | PovAddict: see, you have plenty of things in your life :) you don't need to waste it on facebook |
15:32.36 | Nikerabbit | they could even open their platform, buy nah |
15:32.54 | PovAddict | only to find pictures of friends having fun on parties and get me more depressed than when I started, heh |
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15:33.33 | hyper_ch | just curious: who uses arch? |
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15:34.25 | GraveDigger | hyper_ch: probably more people in here then you might think |
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15:34.33 | PovAddict | the linux distro? |
15:34.50 | hyper_ch | PovAddict: yes |
15:35.14 | hyper_ch | GraveDigger: well, I only tested it in vmware and it looks quite fast |
15:35.34 | GraveDigger | it's supposed to be simple and easy |
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15:35.52 | GraveDigger | simple things are often done fast |
15:36.11 | hyper_ch | :) |
15:36.44 | PovAddict | for a certain definition of "easy"... |
15:37.12 | Psi-Jack | Oy.. IN KDE4, where's the setting for how long it is till the monitor turns off? |
15:37.15 | PovAddict | it's easy if you're willing to learn more than the average Windows lemming |
15:37.19 | PovAddict | that's quite a *good* thing |
15:37.19 | Psi-Jack | For the screensaver. |
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15:37.25 | PovAddict | instead of a noob-oriented distro like Ubuntu :) |
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15:39.08 | somekool | KDE 4.1.85 is very cool.... but Konqueror has regressed terrribly |
15:39.13 | somekool | where is the Info View ? |
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15:40.08 | junkDawgie | Psi-Jack: systemsettings/Display/PowerControl , might be different if you are using 4.2 |
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16:39.50 | g_ | hey anyone up in here? |
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16:40.27 | g_ | just wondering if the problem with not being able to login if the screen is locked on kde 4.2 beta 2 |
16:40.42 | g_ | just wondering if its been fixed or if there is a temp work around |
16:40.50 | g_ | its annyoyed me today |
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16:45.21 | grandi | how do I uninstall nsplugins without uninstalling konqueror? |
16:45.50 | Anonycat | Where can I find and configure the options with which new devices aree mounted? |
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16:50.31 | Half-Left | grandi: Just remove them from the directory |
16:50.51 | grandi | good idea. i have been playing around with the package management |
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17:02.11 | profoX` | i'm having this issue for quite some time now, I can't type things like ö anymore in KDE4 apps, I will get ¨o instead everytime.. I thought it was a keyboard layout setting maybe, but whatever I tried didn't work |
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17:03.36 | profoX` | anyone have an idea what could be wrong? |
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17:11.58 | dissociative | I have kde 3.5.9 under slackware 12.1 and I'm running fluxbox and when I try to run konqueror from the terminal there appears a kde crash dialog saying that kde has crashed and other messages in the terminal and kded doesnt stop crashing forever.. |
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17:46.29 | Guest18212 | upgrade sabayon installed |
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18:09.46 | looonger | do you know any qt3 themes that don't require kde3 libs? so far i've found polymer only |
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18:16.51 | Anonycat | Where can I find and configure the options with which new devices are mounted? |
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18:20.01 | aseigo | Anonycat: that's really OS specific =/ ... currently kde doesn't have a UI for that |
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18:25.41 | Anonycat | when I click on an unmounted DVD in Dolphin, it mounts it into a directory such that I'm the owner of the files, but the first-level subdirectory has permissions of 000 |
18:26.02 | Anonycat | I used to be able to chmod to fix that, but now it won't even let me do that without giving an "error: volume is read-only" |
18:26.17 | Anonycat | so how do I figure out what changed about it? |
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18:26.45 | aseigo | Anonycat: that's probably a question for you distro/OS support channel.. sorry =/ |
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18:37.35 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
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18:38.00 | Ace2016_- | is there a plasma theme where kicker looks like vista's taskbar? |
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18:39.37 | Ace2016_- | i think i'll make it just to see how it gets rated on kde-look, clearly i'm not going to call it vista |
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18:46.08 | Half-Left | Ace2016_-: You mean kickoff menu? |
18:46.46 | Ace2016_- | no i mean the taskbar |
18:46.52 | Ace2016_- | the panel, thats it the panel |
18:47.20 | Ace2016_- | has never used the K button on the panel |
18:47.43 | Ace2016_- | well not in the previous 2 installs |
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18:49.21 | jparishy | Does anyone know if there is a cheese like application for KDE? |
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18:50.18 | jparishy | I found webkam-kde4, but I wasn't sure if that was official or not |
18:50.59 | seto | hi, I use kde4.2, and I am searching about user experience with it ? where can I found a blog/wiki about usage of this version ? (I am looking for something similar to wmii in kde window tiling, and something like yakuake too) |
18:54.38 | Ace2016_- | are kde3 and kde4 themes comatible? |
18:54.45 | Half-Left | no |
18:54.48 | Ace2016_- | can i use kde3 themes with kde4's kdm? |
18:55.08 | Ace2016_- | :( |
18:55.49 | pinotree | nope |
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18:56.34 | Ace2016_- | finding a kdm4 theme on kde look is going to be hard |
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19:02.00 | stoned | hello my lovely people of the kde |
19:02.30 | shadowkyogre | Is there a way to export KDE color schemes? because I want to do that before trying KDE4 |
19:02.44 | Ace2016_- | shadowkyogre: yes you can export them |
19:02.54 | shadowkyogre | How do I do that? |
19:03.28 | Ace2016_- | shadowkyogre: or you could just backup your ~/.kde folder, also depending on the distro kde4 should place configs in a different directory like ~/.kde4 |
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19:04.25 | shadowkyogre | It's in .kde |
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19:08.50 | Ace2016_- | shadowkyogre: you can export the colour scheme |
19:09.57 | Ace2016_- | shadowkyogre: there is a button below the list of colour schemes called save scheme |
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19:12.26 | ireko | hi! i've changed default theme for cursors in kcontrol, i put new theme into /usr/share/icons and ~/.icons, but old theme is still when coursor hovers kicker or wallpaper. what more should i do? |
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19:17.27 | shadowkyogre | I've already saved it...so where does it go now? |
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19:19.26 | Ace2016_- | shadowkyogre: well its your backup, you decide where to put it |
19:19.40 | shadowkyogre | 'kay. |
19:19.41 | shadowkyogre | bye |
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20:04.37 | mustu | hello! m searching frm last few days how to enable Desktop Effects... any clue |
20:04.49 | mustu | is using Fedora 10 |
20:05.12 | neeku | well... i bought suse 11.0 DVD a few months ago with kde 4.0 (beta), now i'm trying to buy suse 11.1 with kde 4.1.3 stable, but just now i noticed kde 4.2 will be out in a month, is that stable or beta? |
20:06.20 | mustu | neeku: it's KDE 4.1.3 |
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20:06.46 | Half-Left | mustu: systemsettings/Desktop |
20:06.54 | neeku | mustu: ???? kde 4.2 is kde 4.1.3??! |
20:07.13 | Half-Left | 4.2 is beta2 |
20:08.21 | mustu | Half-Left: thnx man... it was that much easy :) |
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20:09.39 | Pinaraf | hi |
20:10.00 | Pinaraf | where can I find a port of knetworkmanager (well, only its features) for KDE 4.2 ? |
20:10.22 | Pinaraf | I saw a package in opensuse 11.1 that provides a plasmoid to replace knetworkmanager |
20:10.31 | Pinaraf | but I can't find its code nor any debian package for it |
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20:11.08 | Half-Left | Pinaraf: It's not finished yet and wont be ready for 4.2 |
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20:11.45 | Pinaraf | Half-Left: it is usable, isn't it ? |
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20:12.48 | Half-Left | Pinaraf: not that I know of |
20:13.00 | serenity | aloha |
20:13.15 | serenity | is there a way to sync funambol with kontact? |
20:13.29 | serenity | or in general: syncing via syncML? |
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20:13.48 | mustu | What is Meta key this is used in combination with Ctrl n another key to invoke Dekstop effects? |
20:14.04 | serenity | mustu: windows key |
20:16.19 | Simkin | linkey |
20:19.06 | Zorix | i need a keyboard that replaces the windows key with a linux key |
20:20.21 | Simkin | zorix: http://www.liewcf.com/blog/archives/2004/09/keyboard-dedicated-to-linux-users/ |
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20:20.26 | Simkin | but i'd just get a g15 |
20:20.32 | Simkin | and put a sticker on it :) |
20:20.41 | Simkin | g15 keyboards are DABOMB |
20:21.27 | Zorix | nice.. from 2004... |
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20:46.38 | cibaer | I wanted to post a crash-report in bugzilla for "kfontview", but it is not found in bugzilla |
20:46.57 | cibaer | even if in kfontview there is a bug-report-assistent |
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21:03.00 | flabr | hi there...i just updated to kde4.1 .... the issue is that I like having the toolbar on the top of my screen but some icons on my desktop are covered by the toolbar |
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21:03.16 | flabr | how can i move these icons away from the toolbar |
21:03.18 | flabr | ? |
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21:04.46 | luke-jr | flabr: move them |
21:04.56 | luke-jr | or move your folder view thing |
21:06.04 | flabr | i did...it is Folder View....but moving the icons does not help since they "go back" to where they were |
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21:12.05 | Dario_Andres | flabr: can't you move the whole "FolderView containment" to another place in the Plasma desktop ? |
21:12.16 | Dario_Andres | instead of moving each icon separately |
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21:30.04 | Enselic | When you compile Qt for installation into /opt/kde3 do you prefer passing that to ./configure or do you use the "symlink" approach making use of the fact that Qt installs itself into its source dir? |
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21:32.10 | Ace2016_- | hi all |
21:32.33 | Ace2016_- | i've installed qtcurve kde3 but it doesn't show up under qtconfig-qt3 |
21:32.37 | Ace2016_- | what should i do? |
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21:34.32 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: are you using KDE4 ? |
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21:36.14 | Ace2016_- | yes |
21:36.30 | Ace2016_- | but i want configure the style of qt3 apps |
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21:37.21 | Dario_Andres | i suppose that the qtcurve-kde3 package is configured to use KDE3 so it's installed where only KDE3 can find it, so, QT3 (which uses another paths for storing the styles) qtconfig-qt3 can't find the theme |
21:37.46 | Dario_Andres | I don't know if qtcurve for qt3 can be compiled without KDE support (and installed when QT3 can see it). |
21:38.24 | Dario_Andres | but I think you can install kdebase3 (KDE3) and use KControl to set QtCurve for the Qt3/Kde3 apps. |
21:38.30 | Ace2016_- | well i pulled in kde3's dev packages to compile it |
21:38.49 | boloco | hi, all |
21:38.58 | Ace2016_- | boloco: hi |
21:39.07 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: try to install Kdebase and use kcontrol to set up the style |
21:39.21 | Ace2016_- | kcontrol wants to gtet rid of kde4 |
21:40.00 | boloco | Ace2016_-: was trying to find the best way to run konversation in a kde4 environment |
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21:41.55 | Dario_Andres | boloco, you can try installing kdelibs3 and the konversation. Konversation for KDE4 is in works |
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21:42.16 | Ace2016_- | boloco: i am running konversation in a kde4 environment, it works fine |
21:42.34 | Dario_Andres | me too |
21:42.40 | boloco | atm, running konversation in kde4, with some errors, like icons not found, ... |
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21:46.02 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: run qtconfig-qt3 and in "Library Paths" tab add the paths were the qtcurve.so file is installed inside the qtcurve-kde3 package. Then restart qtconfig-qt3 and QtCurve will be available :) |
21:46.43 | Ace2016_- | hi could someone using kde3 (preferably qtcurve) pastebin their ~/.qt/qtrc please |
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21:48.22 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: http://pastebin.com/d66118182 mine after configuring QtCurve :) |
21:49.36 | Ace2016_- | do you use suse? |
21:49.44 | Ace2016_- | i |
21:50.01 | Dario_Andres | nope |
21:50.11 | Ace2016_- | i've always wondered if suse has 2 directories for kde, /opt and /usr and alternative versions go in those folders. |
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21:50.38 | Dario_Andres | my distro uses /opt/kde/ for KDE3 and /usr for KDE4 |
21:51.43 | Ace2016_- | but since when have they been doing it? |
21:52.48 | Dario_Andres | since KDE4 has to live with a possible KDE3 installation. since KDE4 begginning I suppose |
21:53.55 | Ace2016_- | exactly but we should make it a standard |
21:54.16 | Ace2016_- | that way kden and kden+1 can coexist untill kden+2 when kden gets replaced |
21:54.38 | Ace2016_- | unless its vista and windows seven, then we just replace kden+1 |
21:55.17 | Dario_Andres | I suppose there's a long way to KDE5, and I'm not a mantainer . |
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22:14.04 | Ace2016_- | Dario_Andres: thanks qtcurve kde3 worksnow |
22:14.12 | Ace2016_- | works now* |
22:14.35 | Dario_Andres | :D |
22:14.37 | Dario_Andres | great |
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22:27.20 | martijn81 | can the bittorrent plugin in kget be disabled? |
22:27.35 | martijn81 | now it wanna download the movie and i do not want that... |
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22:31.33 | Dario_Andres | have you tried, Open KGet, go to Configure KGet, select "Plugins" and unchecking the Bittorrent option ? |
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22:33.07 | martijn81 | Dario_Andres: there is no option for this |
22:33.18 | martijn81 | or at least not here under kde 3.1.4 |
22:33.31 | Dario_Andres | 3.1.4 ? |
22:34.05 | Dario_Andres | 4.1.3 ? |
22:35.14 | Dario_Andres | martijn81: ? |
22:35.45 | martijn81 | 4.1.3 yeah, sorry |
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22:39.33 | martijn81 | i already disabled fully kget for konqueror, it should have this option imho |
22:39.41 | martijn81 | not many tracker allow kget as an client |
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22:39.58 | martijn81 | so we should be able to disable this |
22:41.44 | Dario_Andres | you don't have something like : http://imagebin.ca/view/HfhdndZC.html ? |
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22:44.21 | Dario_Andres | martijn81: it seems like the Plugins can't be disabled in KDE4.1 kget . |
22:44.36 | Dario_Andres | what's the problem ? clicking in a torrent link in Konqueror opens KGET ? |
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22:45.23 | martijn81 | Dario_Andres: indeed, and it want to download the torrent from in kget |
22:45.28 | martijn81 | which i did not wanted |
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22:45.51 | martijn81 | but now i just disabled kget as a downloadmanager for konqueror |
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22:47.36 | Dario_Andres | can't you configure another application for the .torrent file type.... in file type associations ? |
22:47.38 | patacute | hi, which one do you prefer, keepasx or kde wallet ? |
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23:01.48 | Ace2016_- | Dario_Andres: well konversation still isn't using qtcurve, but opera does, i don't really think i have any kde3 apps installed now, but qt3 apps seem to be reading the correct config |
23:02.22 | Ace2016_- | i think there is another config file somewhere in ~/.kde that tells kde3 apps what to do |
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23:03.45 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: that's right :) |
23:05.05 | Ace2016_- | do you know which config it is? |
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23:06.22 | Dario_Andres | I suppose somewhere hidden in .kde/ (KDE4 here uses ~/.kde4/ for its configs) |
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23:08.11 | verbalshadow | this there a way to script multiple one for one replacements in Kate |
23:08.41 | verbalshadow | s/this/is |
23:09.42 | Tman | anyone using 4.2 beta 2, how are the bugs? do you feel like it fixes a lot of problems compared to 4.1.3? does it introduce many new ones? |
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23:11.39 | Ace2016_- | Dario_Andres: could i have a pastebin of .kde/share/config/kdeglobals i think is in there |
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23:15.03 | Dario_Andres | i'm not using qtcurve in kde3 apps so that file only contains the defaults in my installation (nothing about styles) |
23:15.13 | Ace2016_- | oh |
23:16.46 | Ace2016_- | ok i think i found the answer brb |
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23:17.23 | Dario_Andres | Ace2016_-: look at : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=434106#p434106 |
23:17.27 | Ace2016_- | add [General] (newline) widgetStyle=QtCurve |
23:17.36 | Dario_Andres | yup |
23:17.51 | Ace2016_- | thanks for the help |
23:17.55 | Dario_Andres | :) |
23:18.06 | Ace2016_- | how come you don't use qtcurve in kde3? |
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