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| 00:00.12 | Psi-Jack | Well, so far, KDE 4.2 Beta 2 is looking good. |
| 00:00.20 | Psi-Jack | The system tray icons work this time. ;) |
| 00:01.23 | g2g591 | yeah, i built svn, and now im putting together a 2nd install to run it in , but from a previous time i isntalled it, its looking great |
| 00:01.23 | Psi-Jack | kio_smb isn't crashing, either. |
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| 00:07.11 | Psi-Jack | Well, good to know kio_smb has gotten some lovin' at least. ;) |
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| 00:09.34 | Psi-Jack | Though Dragon Player seems to be suffering at fullscreen mode opperations. :/ |
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| 00:19.02 | Psi-Jack | sheds a tear. |
| 00:19.20 | Psi-Jack | And I can finally see the volume guage on-screen as I use my keyboard volume control wheel! |
| 00:19.23 | Gigantic | Dragon Player is too auster |
| 00:19.35 | Psi-Jack | auster? |
| 00:19.45 | Gigantic | actually =\ Many KDE4 apps exagerate about minimalism |
| 00:20.38 | Gigantic | Dragon play doesn't even have a setting tab! |
| 00:21.03 | pinotree | this has nothing to do with "kde4", it was that way also in kde3 (called codeine) |
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| 00:21.08 | Psi-Jack | Dragon Player is stern or cold in appearance? o.O |
| 00:21.14 | Gigantic | the "settings" thing is for the current media only |
| 00:21.21 | cb400f | Gigantic: dragon player is a continuation of codeine.. was always intended to be simplistic |
| 00:21.29 | cb400f | .. kde4 kaffeine is in the works |
| 00:21.44 | Gigantic | which is a bit simplistic too |
| 00:21.56 | cb400f | compared to what? |
| 00:22.05 | Gigantic | kde3 |
| 00:22.12 | Gigantic | err... kaffeine 3 |
| 00:22.52 | Gigantic | if only vlc was faster... |
| 00:22.58 | Psi-Jack | Hmm |
| 00:23.01 | Gigantic | or kmplayer better |
| 00:23.04 | Psi-Jack | VLC is one of the best. |
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| 00:23.18 | cb400f | is pretty sure kaffeine intend to port/reimplement every feature and more |
| 00:23.19 | kakalto | used smplayer? |
| 00:23.23 | Gigantic | yes it is my fav actually but is much slower than Xine and Mplayer |
| 00:23.32 | Psi-Jack | Slower how? |
| 00:23.44 | Gigantic | smplayer is not bad but caused issues with my alsa |
| 00:23.49 | Gigantic | and sound being busy |
| 00:24.01 | Gigantic | not sure if the bug is fixed alredy |
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| 00:24.32 | Gigantic | it used to bypass alsa for oss |
| 00:25.17 | Gigantic | which reminds me... |
| 00:25.17 | Psi-Jack | Oy. |
| 00:25.17 | Psi-Jack | That's why Dragon Player is performing badly. fglrx isn't running for some reason. grrr |
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| 00:26.36 | agentdenton | the new K menu has a history tab. Where is such information stored? |
| 00:26.54 | agentdenton | the history, that is |
| 00:27.05 | Gigantic | ~/.kde4/somewhere |
| 00:27.28 | Gigantic | config prolly |
| 00:27.28 | agentdenton | lol, wild guess eh? |
| 00:27.28 | agentdenton | ok |
| 00:27.28 | Gigantic | :) |
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| 00:29.21 | schafi | I'm using kde 4.1.3 ... how can I move these notify windows to other positions (they always appear in the top right corner) especially with kopete notification this is quite annoying |
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| 00:37.07 | Psi-Jack | That's better. ;) |
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| 00:37.36 | Psi-Jack | Except that sound isn't seeming to go through pulse.. odd.. |
| 00:42.02 | Gigantic | is Pulse even running? |
| 00:42.21 | Gigantic | oh he's gone |
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| 01:16.52 | Phlogi | where can I look up if the current trunk code should compile or not? |
| 01:17.43 | pinotree | http://developer.kde.org/~dirk/dashboard/ (and it does now) |
| 01:18.03 | Phlogi | pinotree: any hint on this: http://rafb.net/p/GO4vou49.html |
| 01:18.27 | pinotree | nope |
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| 01:39.06 | Ratfink | I want a system monitor on the panel in KDE 4.1, but I can't find one in the list of widgets. |
| 01:39.16 | Ratfink | Where could I find one? |
| 01:41.01 | rdieter | Ratfink: may want to wait for kde-4.2, there's a slew of hardware monitor plasma applets included |
| 01:41.19 | rdieter | sorry, s/hardware/system/ |
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| 01:43.02 | Ratfink | okay, but it will be a bit of trouble to start htop every time I want to see how much the cpu is being used |
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| 01:44.13 | Ratfink | How long until 4.2 comes out? |
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| 01:48.06 | rdieter | according to http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.2_Release_Schedule , Jan 27 |
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| 01:49.19 | Ratfink | okay, thanks |
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| 01:58.11 | autonomy | why do build systems need to make such a mess all over the place |
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| 01:58.57 | flabr | hi there...i am running kde4.1...Plain Desktop...just wonder where can I change the size of the desktop icon's text? |
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| 02:06.07 | thechef | I want to resume an aborted copy process. How can I do that? |
| 02:06.11 | thechef | file copy |
| 02:06.12 | sandsmark | flabr: #suse |
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| 02:06.36 | thiago | thechef: do it again |
| 02:06.36 | sandsmark | thechef: try to redo it, hopefully it picks up and continues |
| 02:06.55 | thechef | sandsmark: it only gives me the option to overwrite it |
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| 02:07.05 | thiago | and to ignore |
| 02:07.07 | thiago | say Auto Ignore |
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| 02:08.37 | thechef | Oh |
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| 02:08.43 | thechef | now it gives me the option to resume |
| 02:08.50 | thechef | but it doesn't resume. It overwrites it! |
| 02:09.10 | thiago | local disk to local disk? |
| 02:09.22 | thechef | no smb:// to disk |
| 02:09.32 | thechef | with Konqueror |
| 02:09.41 | thiago | it probably can't restart the download |
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| 02:18.16 | zig | hi all, with kde 3.5 , I tried to change add a file associations , but now, I keep getting some "unknown mime type application/octet-stream" dialog popup , and knotify uses 100% of the CPU |
| 02:19.33 | zig | I tried to delete .kde/share/config/profilerc but that doesn't fix the popup problem |
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| 02:29.41 | zig | ok problem fixed by removing .kde/share/mimlnk/application/octet-stream.desktop but I really don't understand how it happened |
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| 02:44.23 | Ratfink | what is the command to start the kde control center in kde 4.1? |
| 02:46.24 | MinceR | systemsettings or something like that? |
| 02:46.42 | Ratfink | okay, I'll try that |
| 02:47.27 | Ratfink | yup, that's it |
| 02:47.32 | Ratfink | thanks |
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| 03:13.15 | shadowkyogre | When I start KMplayer, my screen starts to flicker. anyone know why? |
| 03:13.26 | shadowkyogre | In KDEMod3 |
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| 03:58.56 | Ficthe | hi -- in kxkb on KDE 3.5, how can I cycle through my layouts with a keyboard shortcut? |
| 03:59.12 | Ficthe | I've looked in the xkb options, but I see nothing relevant to this. did I miss something maybe? |
| 03:59.20 | webbi | ctrl+alt+k ? |
| 04:00.08 | Ficthe | ah.. that works! but the same combination of key doesn't hold to switch back |
| 04:00.15 | Ficthe | any idea how that is dealt with? |
| 04:00.52 | Ficthe | ÑпаÑибо .. besides having to switch with a mouse! |
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| 04:49.36 | maddslacker | google isn't much help on this, but what is the status of custom keyboard shortcuts in kde4? |
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| 05:02.49 | saem | maddslacker: I think they're due for 4.2 |
| 05:03.01 | maddslacker | ah |
| 05:03.02 | maddslacker | cool |
| 05:03.05 | maddslacker | and thanks |
| 05:03.35 | saem | maddslacker: oh wait, I might be wrong |
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| 05:04.48 | saem | maddslacker: What exactly did you want to change? |
| 05:05.01 | saem | maddslacker: Because you can already change stuff via system settings |
| 05:05.09 | snaf | KDE4.1.85... is that the same as the KDE4.2 beta2? The info page references KDE4.2 then has a package list of *4.1.85 |
| 05:05.22 | saem | snaf: I believe so, yesh |
| 05:05.27 | maddslacker | yeah, I saw that, but I want to add a custom one, like you can in gnome and kde3 |
| 05:05.56 | saem | maddslacker: a global one? |
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| 05:06.08 | maddslacker | saem, doesn't need to be |
| 05:07.42 | saem | maddslacker: hmm, the various apps seem to be there, the bindings can be set to whatever you like, i'm not sure what you're asking fo |
| 05:07.44 | saem | r |
| 05:08.39 | maddslacker | I want to make a keyboard shortcut to pkill a particular app |
| 05:09.41 | shepherd | How do I change my system time in kde4? |
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| 05:10.01 | shepherd | My clocks like 13 hours off |
| 05:10.24 | maddslacker | shepherd, kde menu, system settings date & time |
| 05:10.26 | saem | shepherd: system settings |
| 05:10.28 | shepherd | Oh |
| 05:10.30 | shepherd | Thanks :D |
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| 05:11.43 | saem | maddslacker: What about system settings -> advanced -> input actions |
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| 05:12.27 | maddslacker | yep, i think youfound it |
| 05:12.30 | maddslacker | thanks! |
| 05:12.33 | saem | maddslacker: np |
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| 05:13.56 | maddslacker | i'd have never thought to look there, kind of obscure |
| 05:14.41 | saem | maddslacker: Most users don't do that kind of thing, it's pretty advanced, so it makes sense |
| 05:14.51 | maddslacker | true |
| 05:15.02 | saem | maddslacker: don't sell yourself short as a power user. ;) |
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| 06:18.50 | Dewy | running compiz on kde 4 f10 take a lot of -system- resources? |
| 06:19.01 | Dewy | *does |
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| 06:45.19 | nascentmind | hi. does kde use compiz for doing the effects? |
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| 06:49.07 | Khyota | how can i run knemo? i installed a package but there is no binary |
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| 07:34.59 | stoned | Khyota, in my language means donkey' |
| 07:35.04 | stoned | little donkey |
| 07:35.05 | stoned | :D |
| 07:35.11 | stoned | Urdu lang of pakistan |
| 07:35.26 | Khyota | interesting |
| 07:35.30 | stoned | Khota is donkey, and Khyota is little donkey |
| 07:35.33 | stoned | hehehe |
| 07:35.51 | stoned | maybe its more like punjabi i think. Urdu is like Gadha for donkey |
| 07:36.01 | stoned | yeh, khyota is punjabi |
| 07:36.30 | stoned | Khyota, what is knemo? kde package? which distro? |
| 07:36.38 | Khyota | opensuse |
| 07:36.45 | Khyota | knemo is a network manager apparently |
| 07:36.50 | stoned | I see |
| 07:37.00 | stoned | Khyota, try the distro channel |
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| 07:37.16 | stoned | Khyota, in your pacakge manager of suse, you can list the files in the package?|grep for bin? |
| 07:37.27 | Khyota | already did that |
| 07:37.30 | Khyota | one sec |
| 07:37.59 | stoned | ok |
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| 07:38.24 | stoned | Khyota, i also use kde3.5.10 |
| 07:39.00 | Khyota | http://pastebin.com/d529b06d6 |
| 07:39.02 | Khyota | me too |
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| 07:40.02 | Khyota | btw the name Khyota came from the words Hyena and Coyote, but C changed to K like in KDE :) |
| 07:40.18 | Khyota | like how almost all kde programs start with a K* |
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| 07:40.23 | stoned | aha |
| 07:40.25 | stoned | no |
| 07:40.34 | stoned | i know its no binarry because its not a application |
| 07:40.38 | stoned | its a kicker applet |
| 07:40.41 | stoned | its just a lib |
| 07:40.54 | stoned | you have to add to panel via right click |
| 07:40.58 | stoned | (I think( |
| 07:41.37 | stoned | Khyota, hello |
| 07:41.48 | stoned | Khyota, cool! |
| 07:41.53 | Khyota | ! |
| 07:41.57 | Khyota | im looking |
| 07:42.00 | stoned | I like coyote and and hyena from lionking |
| 07:42.02 | stoned | :D |
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| 07:43.23 | Khyota | no coyotes in lionking? |
| 07:43.29 | stoned | To start KNemo: Go to the KDE Control Center / Internet & Networking / open the KNemo configuration dialog (Network Monitor). There is an option at the top of the dialog saying something like "Use KNemo to monitor your interfaces". Activate it and KNemo should start with KDE. |
| 07:43.52 | stoned | KNemo has to be started using KDE Control Center/Internet & Network/Network Monitor. Please do no longer use the KDE Service Manager to start and stop KNemo. This change was necessary to keep KNemo from starting automatically for every user in a multiuser environment. |
| 07:44.14 | stoned | Then you must click checkbox to make knemo monitor things |
| 07:44.15 | stoned | ok? |
| 07:44.42 | Khyota | awsome got it |
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| 07:45.20 | stoned | fantastic |
| 07:45.24 | stoned | I am now going to smoke weed |
| 07:45.29 | stoned | what are you gonna do? |
| 07:45.57 | Khyota | watch the byteage o.o |
| 07:46.32 | stoned | ok |
| 07:46.34 | stoned | good luck |
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| 08:00.39 | autonomy | is there a way to do something like this with cmake... |
| 08:00.39 | autonomy | install(FILES @WEBDATA@ DESTINATION www) |
| 08:00.55 | autonomy | and have @WEBDATA@ replaced with a macro |
| 08:00.58 | autonomy | e.g. |
| 08:01.14 | autonomy | in m4-speak... |
| 08:01.14 | autonomy | AC_DEFUN([NT_FUNC_DIRLIST], ["esyscmd([find $1 -type f -a -not -regex ".*\.svn.*" -printf " %h/%f"])"]) |
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| 08:53.31 | OxDeadC0de | can anyone tell me what the "proper" icon is for the system settings app in 4.X themes? |
| 08:54.07 | downhill_ | OxDeadC0de; the screwdriver and wrench icon |
| 08:54.23 | OxDeadC0de | downhill_ ya, what's the filename?^^ |
| 08:54.46 | downhill_ | whichever one corrisponds with the wrench+screwdriver image :p |
| 08:54.52 | downhill_ | doesn't know |
| 08:55.04 | OxDeadC0de | i keep looking at the icons in the default theme but I'm blind, can't see it, or it's not a system icon :| |
| 08:57.01 | downhill_ | OxDeadC0de; preferences-system.png |
| 08:57.11 | OxDeadC0de | thank you! |
| 08:57.13 | downhill_ | share\icons\oxygen\*\categories |
| 08:57.22 | downhill_ | np |
| 08:58.02 | OxDeadC0de | erm |
| 08:58.06 | downhill_ | there's probably a scalable svg in share\icons\oxygen\*\scalable\ |
| 08:58.52 | downhill_ | errrr you know what I mean... |
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| 09:47.14 | [Danial] | hello mates, i want a site to download some widgets.. |
| 09:48.24 | [Danial] | ...? |
| 09:49.05 | pinotree | (what about a less generic question?) |
| 09:49.52 | pinotree | did you look in kde-apps.org, for a start? |
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| 10:10.03 | autonomy | another cmake question... if I want the installer to install a bunch of configuration files... |
| 10:10.28 | autonomy | is there something that understands the "etc" concept, or do i do it simple as a install()? |
| 10:12.00 | pinotree | install(FILES foorc barc DESTINATION ${CONFIG_INSTALL_DIR}) |
| 10:12.09 | pinotree | (this only works for kde4) |
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| 10:12.32 | autonomy | yes so it's not any different to installing some other directory right? |
| 10:12.48 | pinotree | just the destination changes |
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| 10:13.02 | autonomy | installing etc in automake for example is done via dist_sysconf_DATA |
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| 10:14.10 | duud | salut |
| 10:14.19 | pinotree | hi |
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| 10:23.59 | autonomy | and what the best way to drop in some python executables into sbin/ ? |
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| 10:29.35 | ian| | Hi! I installed 4.1.87 (on gentoo) and now it is not possible to configure kmail (and some, but not all other kontact komponents). |
| 10:29.48 | ian| | The configuration dialog is just empty. |
| 10:29.55 | ian| | Is this a known problem? |
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| 10:59.19 | sebbar | hi, I have 4.2 beta 2 right now on kubuntu, what's the easiest way to get the msn module on kopete? do I have to install trunk? |
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| 10:59.34 | Mirrakor | Is there way to disable the taskbar completly? (under KDE3) |
| 11:00.12 | annma | Mirrakor: the panel? |
| 11:00.24 | Mirrakor | the thing at the bottom, yes :) |
| 11:00.27 | downhill_ | annma; that's what he said |
| 11:00.40 | annma | the taskbar is not the panel |
| 11:00.52 | annma | there is a dcop call to remove it Mirrakor |
| 11:01.15 | annma | Mirrakor: in a terminal type |
| 11:01.23 | annma | dcop kicker kicker |
| 11:01.26 | annma | type enter |
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| 11:01.36 | Mirrakor | I've it set to autohide, but that doesn't seem to be enough (for some strange reason the startmenu gets displayed from time to time without user interaction - very disturbing since the PC runs soly as presentation monitor :) |
| 11:01.36 | annma | do you see some funcions listed? |
| 11:01.55 | Mirrakor | nope |
| 11:02.05 | Mirrakor | ah, wait I know why :D |
| 11:02.15 | Mirrakor | I'm running KDE4 here, so no kicker involved :) |
| 11:02.31 | Mirrakor | but I know how to use dcop, I'll try it on the presentation machine, thx :) |
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| 11:03.47 | annma | :) |
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| 11:10.34 | rdancer | what's the kde file manager proggie? |
| 11:11.28 | pinotree | konqueror/dolphin |
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| 12:03.53 | sebbar | hi, with kde 4.2 beta 2 my laptop doesn't shut down (I just get a back screen). Any idea on how to fix this? |
| 12:04.03 | sebbar | *black |
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| 12:16.25 | Frogbarf | Now that I spent 5 hours creating an awesome dark color scheme I hope that I can still see my desktop after the sun comes up |
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| 12:27.00 | cenuij | Frogbarf: you will, your eyes will thank you too |
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| 13:02.44 | Phlogi | is this project death or has it moved? http://gtk-qt.ecs.soton.ac.uk/trac/browser/gtk-qt/trunk/gtk-qt-engine |
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| 13:11.23 | Babuto` | hi, i have plasma that crashes at startup (i have kde4.2 beta) ; i've tried to delete ~/.kde-neon/share/config/plasma* but i still have the problem |
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| 13:11.51 | annma | Babuto`: pastebin the backtrace of crash please |
| 13:12.07 | Babuto` | annma ok one second |
| 13:12.16 | annma | you know what pastebin is |
| 13:12.28 | annma | and you have kde compiled with debug symbols |
| 13:13.02 | Babuto` | annma i have a backtrace so i think i have debug symbols |
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| 13:13.26 | annma | as long as you don't see 'no debug symbols found' repeated hundred times |
| 13:14.06 | Babuto` | i've seen that, but these lines disappeared to let appear : http://paste.ubuntu.com/98993 |
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| 13:17.02 | annma | try a new user |
| 13:17.28 | annma | I had this crash today after 2 weeks of being away |
| 13:17.31 | SSJ_GZ | Babuto`: No, you don't have debugging symbols. I've seen a few people affected by this, but it's gotten fixed since then. Is this KDE4.2 beta or one of the neon "nightlies"? |
| 13:17.45 | annma | SSJ_GZ: it's a config conflict |
| 13:17.53 | Babuto` | SSJ_GZ neon |
| 13:17.56 | annma | as far as I experimented myself |
| 13:18.01 | pinotree | (imho they are old BIC applets) |
| 13:18.14 | annma | pinotree: I hadnone |
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| 13:18.29 | pinotree | i'm thinking about Babuto`'s issue |
| 13:18.34 | annma | plasma did not start when I updated everything after 2 weeks away |
| 13:18.39 | annma | I had the same |
| 13:18.53 | annma | I nuked all config files and it started |
| 13:19.06 | annma | Babuto`: can you try a brand new user please |
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| 13:19.24 | Babuto` | annma yes |
| 13:19.42 | Babuto` | same crash |
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| 13:21.58 | annma | ah |
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| 13:22.21 | annma | did you upgrade every module? |
| 13:22.35 | Babuto` | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ; i've done this |
| 13:22.56 | LimCore | hi |
| 13:23.04 | LimCore | why I can add only 1 copy of given applet to the panel? wtf |
| 13:23.20 | annma | Babuto`: isn't there neon support? |
| 13:23.32 | annma | can't you ask other people if they have the same? |
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| 13:24.30 | Babuto` | if you search plasma crash on google you will find some people with this problem ; but the solution they propose never works for me (as deleteing .kde-neon) |
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| 13:24.48 | jillsmitt | hi, i need simple instruction about install kde41 from tar files, i have it in tar archives |
| 13:24.52 | Babuto` | what's the difference between kde-nightly and kde4.2 beta ? |
| 13:25.05 | Babuto` | kde-nightly is upgraded every day ? |
| 13:25.14 | spawn57 | yeah |
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| 13:26.02 | Babuto` | why if i write sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-nightly i have only 45Ko freed ? |
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| 13:26.14 | Babuto` | ko* |
| 13:26.47 | pinotree | Babuto`: #kubuntu please |
| 13:26.52 | spawn57 | don't think I can help you with that :| |
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| 13:27.36 | Babuto` | pinotree it seems that i have more help here than on kubuntu |
| 13:28.00 | pinotree | Babuto`: we don't support disto packages |
| 13:28.23 | Babuto` | and how i can uninstall kde4 (not the beta one) and reinstall it ? (because it has also bugs) |
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| 13:29.10 | pinotree | Babuto`: if you installed it using distro packages, you have to ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 13:35.50 | cenuij | what is ksmserver? |
| 13:35.58 | Vachaun22 | how do you get kde 4.1 display power management to work? |
| 13:38.24 | pinotree | cenuij: what manages a kde session |
| 13:38.26 | Vachaun22 | i have powerdevil set to turn off display after 5 minutes, and let powerdevil control powermanagement checked, but display never shuts off |
| 13:38.56 | cenuij | pinotree: it's gone zombie :< |
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| 13:40.40 | sheepherd | hi there... someone knows why im unable to remove activites? im trying like described here http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#How_can_I_add.2Fremove_an_activity.3F |
| 13:41.10 | cenuij | good news is 4.1.86 is the first time nepomuk/strigi has not thrashed one of my cpu cores to 100% |
| 13:41.35 | cenuij | might be time to enable these and see what features they have |
| 13:42.05 | cenuij | any news on animated wallapers? |
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| 13:52.16 | tanderson | aseigo: thanks for fixing that plasma-workspace compilation error a bit earlier, it's appreciated! |
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| 13:56.31 | sheepherd | someone knows why im unable to remove activites? im trying like described here http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#How_can_I_add.2Fremove_an_activity.3F |
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| 13:58.46 | Zelda | hibread, someone who uses SuperKaramba? I have a tar.gz with included .SKZ files, how do install? karamba let select only .themes |
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| 13:59.04 | Zelda | ops |
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| 14:03.50 | Frogbarf | Why are dark color schemes always such a pain? |
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| 14:06.25 | sheepherd | cuz it doesnt change the font-color to black if the background is bright : / |
| 14:06.25 | _gl_ | probably because colour perception is low at low light intensity. |
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| 14:09.23 | _gl_ | sheepherd: I am trying to do the same. but I can see no cashew in the corner. Any idea? |
| 14:09.48 | _gl_ | found it now! |
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| 14:11.31 | sheepherd | tell me :) |
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| 14:13.51 | _gl_ | No, I just found the cashew! |
| 14:14.17 | sheepherd | xD |
| 14:14.22 | _gl_ | Changed the Desktop settings to each of the 3 then it suddenly appeared. |
| 14:14.28 | _gl_ | Not sure this is working OK |
| 14:14.39 | olujicz | I'm looking show desktop shortcut in kde4, but i can't find |
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| 14:15.06 | _gl_ | Now I do not know what this zoom out does I get more and more desktops. How do I get rid of the extra ones? |
| 14:15.24 | _gl_ | (I obviously do not understand how this is supposed to work) |
| 14:15.46 | _gl_ | (looks like "Roadside picknick"!) :-) |
| 14:16.11 | sheepherd | olujicz: dunno about that... theres an icon to do that wich you can enable through the widget system |
| 14:16.34 | sheepherd | _gl_: tried that? http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#How_can_I_add.2Fremove_an_activity.3F |
| 14:16.42 | olujicz | i know, but I'm looking for shortcut on keyboard |
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| 14:19.12 | _gl_ | sheepherd: Yes I had a look, but I obviously cannot grasp what I am doing. Alien technology: probably nice, but dangerous :-D |
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| 14:20.36 | sheepherd | true... : / |
| 14:21.06 | sheepherd | most people are still using kde 3.5 i think |
| 14:21.34 | sheepherd | and now i know the reason -.- |
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| 14:23.19 | sheepherd | even amarok lags as i move windows... |
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| 14:24.10 | buntfalke | are symbolic links in the kde autostart folder not working? do i have to place small scripts there instead? |
| 14:24.32 | Sho_ | symlinks always worked for me personally |
| 14:24.47 | Sho_ | you can also just use the Autostart manager module in System Settings, though |
| 14:24.55 | Sho_ | that will create and place .desktop files instead of making symlinks |
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| 14:26.13 | buntfalke | dont like .desktop files for that so much, i'll try around a little more than. thanks. |
| 14:26.24 | annma | hmm? |
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| 14:26.59 | buntfalke | oh, well. and as i still use kde359, there is no such autostart manager module for me i guess :-) |
| 14:27.10 | annma | are small scripts better than .desktop files? |
| 14:27.29 | buntfalke | yes, i know their syntax when i open them in vim :-) |
| 14:27.53 | chlue | Hello the search function in kde4.1 has a button 'use file index'. The tooltip shows it uses the slocate index. I use mlocate here. Is there a way to let it use this index? The indexfile is there: /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db |
| 14:27.56 | buntfalke | besides, i hope to get symlinks to my ~/bin working :-) |
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| 14:32.29 | _gl_ | Is there any reason for the new resizing mode of the folder view? I mean this seems to require lots of extra fiddling with the window. positioning. |
| 14:33.18 | BluesKaj | strange happenings in kde4.2 ,previous to yesterday I was able to launch ands run google earth from the icon on my desktop , now it launches from the desktop, but with no globe or options . I tried launching from the run command with kdesudo ,and GE works just fine , with all options and features ..same goes if iI sudo googleearth from the shell...is this an ownershiip issue and if so, how do I fix it ? |
| 14:34.03 | chlue | _gl_: Do you have a screenshot. I find the one in 4.1 requieres lot of fiddling. I am curios what is changed. |
| 14:35.05 | _gl_ | I am using 4.1.3, it is the same method, you click and change height and width at the same time. |
| 14:35.43 | _gl_ | This gets out of the screen quite easily and requires positioning, unless there is some key combination that I am missing? |
| 14:36.03 | AssociateX | what is the app the shows disk usage via a pie chart and you can delete what you don't want? |
| 14:36.50 | Psi-Jack | My gods, what has happened to kmail in 4.2? |
| 14:37.14 | Psi-Jack | Why is there arrows beside every email I have in my inbox? |
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| 14:37.47 | Psi-Jack | That when I click on them, they drop open with the actual email subjects? |
| 14:38.02 | annma | Psi-Jack: screenshot? |
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| 14:38.53 | BluesKaj | !screenshot |
| 14:38.57 | ^|Genocide|^ | how do I compile kde from source? |
| 14:39.05 | ^|Genocide|^ | step by step |
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| 14:39.51 | Psi-Jack | ^|Genocide|^: www.kde.org, go read. ;) |
| 14:40.03 | ^|Genocide|^ | i've tried lol |
| 14:40.06 | ^|Genocide|^ | but i don't understand it |
| 14:40.29 | ^|Genocide|^ | <--is possibly an idiot |
| 14:40.36 | SSJ_GZ | ^|Genocide|^: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started |
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| 14:41.53 | PhilRod | ^|Genocide|^: take a look through those steps and tell us which one(s) you don't understand |
| 14:42.14 | ^|Genocide|^ | pretty much all of 'em :( |
| 14:42.47 | SSJ_GZ | ^|Genocide|^: What's the first problem you run into, and why? |
| 14:43.06 | ^|Genocide|^ | I'm stupid that's why & all of it. I don't understand how it works |
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| 14:43.19 | _gl_ | OK, I just noted that the CRTL resizes width and height keeping the same aspect ration (nice), |
| 14:43.23 | annma | ^|Genocide|^: do not build from source then |
| 14:43.24 | SSJ_GZ | ^|Genocide|^: Don't be so defeatist :) |
| 14:43.25 | Psi-Jack | Hmm |
| 14:43.36 | Psi-Jack | Dang, how do you take a screenshot with gimp? It's been so long for me. LOL |
| 14:43.37 | annma | ^|Genocide|^: why don't you install from source? |
| 14:43.43 | annma | ^|Genocide|^: why don't you install from distro I mean |
| 14:43.47 | annma | (damn) |
| 14:43.51 | _gl_ | But it would be more useful if there was an extra key that allowed positioning as well! |
| 14:43.53 | ^|Genocide|^ | i use fbsd |
| 14:44.03 | annma | and? |
| 14:44.07 | chlue | _gl_: my prefered way would be to specify number of rows and collums |
| 14:44.14 | ^|Genocide|^ | the pkgs ain't maintained as quick as I'd like |
| 14:44.17 | annma | free bsd does not provide kde4? |
| 14:44.26 | ^|Genocide|^ | I'd like to pkg_add -r kde & it all be good |
| 14:44.30 | ^|Genocide|^ | well it prolly does |
| 14:44.41 | ^|Genocide|^ | but like with xorg |
| 14:44.48 | _gl_ | chlue: yes, I would not disagree either! |
| 14:44.49 | ^|Genocide|^ | they were 2 minor releases behind in their pkgs |
| 14:44.59 | annma | in a few weeks kde 4.2 will be out and you'll get it ^|Genocide|^ |
| 14:45.22 | ^|Genocide|^ | but fbsd isn't real quick bout creating packages... |
| 14:45.36 | ^|Genocide|^ | like with xorg it's at 7.4 & they've only got 7.2 package built |
| 14:45.46 | annma | ^|Genocide|^: the doc on techbase.kde.org tells it all and is easy |
| 14:46.00 | ^|Genocide|^ | well |
| 14:46.04 | annma | either you follow it or you wait for your distro to give it to you |
| 14:46.04 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'll step through it |
| 14:46.18 | ^|Genocide|^ | is it really complicated? |
| 14:46.23 | annma | no |
| 14:46.26 | annma | really not |
| 14:46.44 | annma | I did it without knowledge when I started |
| 14:47.13 | ^|Genocide|^ | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4.x |
| 14:47.16 | ^|Genocide|^ | ok |
| 14:47.23 | ^|Genocide|^ | is that where I need to be? |
| 14:47.24 | ^|Genocide|^ | first of all |
| 14:47.43 | annma | you want trunk probably |
| 14:47.57 | ^|Genocide|^ | what's trunk mean? |
| 14:48.14 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 14:48.19 | annma | pre 4.2 version |
| 14:48.32 | annma | development version which is stable now as we are in pre-release mode |
| 14:48.41 | annma | what do you want to do with it? |
| 14:49.06 | annma | you said freebsd has not the latest, what is the one they have? |
| 14:49.21 | ^|Genocide|^ | migrate my desktop OS from wincrap which uselessly hogs memory and transition to fbsd as my desktop os |
| 14:49.46 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'm not sure... i just noticed it in the past on things... like w/ xorg it's at 7.4 & they only got a package for 7.2 |
| 14:49.50 | Psi-Jack | annma: How do I make a screenshot using Gimp? I forget and gimp's changed a lot since I last used it. |
| 14:50.00 | ^|Genocide|^ | i figured it'd be much the same w/ kde so i didn't even look |
| 14:50.19 | Psi-Jack | Yeash.. FreeBSD as a desktop? Linux is far better at the desktop. FreeBSD is better at the server. |
| 14:50.31 | sandsmark | nooo! solaris!! :p |
| 14:50.41 | ^|Genocide|^ | yeah... well. it's been awhile since I used linux |
| 14:50.50 | sandsmark | aaaaanyways, os discussions â #kde-chat |
| 14:50.50 | ^|Genocide|^ | I have a fbsd server |
| 14:51.00 | ^|Genocide|^ | but that's not to say that I'm a competent fbsd admin or anything |
| 14:51.00 | sandsmark | Psi-Jack: using kwin? |
| 14:51.05 | Psi-Jack | sandsmark: Yes |
| 14:51.13 | sandsmark | ctrl+prtscrn, iirc, and then paste in gimp |
| 14:51.21 | sandsmark | or just press printscrn to get ksnapshot |
| 14:51.26 | annma | Psi-Jack: I use ksnapshot to make screenshots |
| 14:51.31 | Psi-Jack | Ahh that works too. |
| 14:51.33 | annma | easy, quick and intuitive |
| 14:52.01 | annma | ^|Genocide|^: you need to assess what you want first and what your distro provides |
| 14:52.13 | annma | what you want/need |
| 14:52.30 | annma | building for the sake of building is not worth it |
| 14:52.51 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'm not building for the sake of building |
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| 14:52.55 | sandsmark | ...unless you want to rework the build systems ;) |
| 14:52.58 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'm gonna get off wincrap lol |
| 14:53.35 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'm just used to fbsd mostly |
| 14:53.41 | ^|Genocide|^ | i've been using it for a couple years as a server |
| 14:53.48 | ^|Genocide|^ | but i still don't know enough... |
| 14:53.55 | ^|Genocide|^ | more or less it's just configure it & leave it |
| 14:54.00 | ^|Genocide|^ | upgrade once in awhile... |
| 14:54.05 | annma | I advise you to install what freebsd provides |
| 14:54.19 | annma | in terms of kde4 |
| 14:54.29 | ^|Genocide|^ | well |
| 14:54.30 | Psi-Jack | http://picasaweb.google.com/erenfro/Screenshots#5287080881354115522 |
| 14:54.34 | annma | compiling is for developers mainly |
| 14:54.36 | ^|Genocide|^ | I'm gonna vmware it |
| 14:55.02 | annma | hmmm |
| 14:55.07 | annma | (no comment) |
| 14:55.11 | ^|Genocide|^ | so.. essentially it's as easy as if I screw up.. i can just dump virtual box, recreate it, & do it again |
| 14:55.35 | ^|Genocide|^ | my little sandbox to test with |
| 14:55.57 | Psi-Jack | There's the screenshot of it. ;) |
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| 14:56.12 | Psi-Jack | heh, the taskbar's now also lost Konversation from it. Wierdness. ;) |
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| 14:56.22 | sandsmark | ^|Genocide|^: why not just use one of those friendly *bsd thingies? =) |
| 14:56.44 | ^|Genocide|^ | friendly *bsd thingies? like packages or ports? |
| 14:57.16 | schafi | does anyone know a site with qt4 themes (oxygen is quite ugly :-/) on kde-looks.org I can only find a hand full themes |
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| 14:57.33 | ^|Genocide|^ | cuz 1)fbsds friendly little thingies isn't updated quick enough 2)it's the wussy way out & 3)i can't learn anything that way |
| 14:57.37 | annma | why is oxygen ugly? |
| 14:57.38 | Psi-Jack | I actually quite like Oxygen. |
| 14:57.53 | sandsmark | schafi: there isn't many, most people find oxygen quite attractive ;) |
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| 14:58.03 | sandsmark | schafi: a friend of mine made qlouds before kde 4 was released, though, it's pretty customizable |
| 14:58.21 | Psi-Jack | annma: Are you able to see that screenshot alright? |
| 14:58.25 | annma | maybe qt-apps.org has some |
| 14:58.28 | sandsmark | I'm not sure if it still compiles, but he said he was gonna update it soon ;) |
| 14:58.36 | schafi | bespin is quite nice but has too many bugs (ugly blurred icons when they are inactive) |
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| 14:59.00 | sandsmark | ^|Genocide|^: I meant like desktopbsd or pc-bsd |
| 14:59.02 | annma | Psi-Jack: what is th eproblem already? |
| 14:59.07 | walt | anyone use krusader? |
| 14:59.15 | ^|Genocide|^ | oh... i dunno |
| 14:59.21 | sandsmark | walt: I have it installed ;) |
| 14:59.31 | ^|Genocide|^ | cuz i wanna learn somethin is why :) |
| 14:59.32 | Psi-Jack | annma: Everything in the top-right pane where the message listing is in tree form. |
| 14:59.37 | walt | sandsmark: but do you use it regularly? |
| 14:59.38 | sandsmark | ^|Genocide|^: hehehe ;) |
| 14:59.41 | sandsmark | walt: nope |
| 14:59.44 | walt | k |
| 14:59.46 | Psi-Jack | annma: Instead of just showing all the emails, it's organizing it by sender. |
| 14:59.55 | annma | you can change that |
| 15:00.04 | walt | sandsmark: probably cant help me then ) |
| 15:00.05 | walt | :) |
| 15:00.07 | walt | thanbks anyway |
| 15:00.17 | ^|Genocide|^ | i'll fiddle with all it |
| 15:00.23 | ^|Genocide|^ | & if I have probs I'll hit ya'll up |
| 15:00.25 | Psi-Jack | Aha.. |
| 15:00.26 | annma | Psi-Jack: last icon on the right in the group of 4 icons |
| 15:00.34 | Psi-Jack | It was aggregating it. |
| 15:00.40 | annma | yes |
| 15:00.44 | annma | you can make it flat |
| 15:01.00 | Psi-Jack | By thread starters, by default. WHY oh WHY would someone do that? LOL |
| 15:01.05 | annma | not last icon, in fact |
| 15:01.13 | Psi-Jack | I couldn't even see what email was new because of that mode. |
| 15:01.14 | annma | probably that was asked for |
| 15:01.24 | Psi-Jack | annma: By default? I don't think so. |
| 15:01.26 | Psi-Jack | heh |
| 15:01.43 | annma | you don't imagine what is asked |
| 15:01.51 | annma | everything and its opposite |
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| 15:02.31 | annma | I thought default was not aggregated though |
| 15:03.02 | Psi-Jack | It shouldn't be. That's what I'm saying. |
| 15:03.25 | Psi-Jack | It was for me, and all I did was update from KDE 4.1.3 to KDE 4.2beta2, and kmail was suddenly just like that. |
| 15:03.50 | annma | try a new user to see how default is |
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| 15:22.28 | smurfslover | annma: kmail shows gmail like conversations by default |
| 15:22.42 | smurfslover | instead of mails organised by receiving time |
| 15:22.59 | annma | only gmail? |
| 15:23.10 | smurfslover | noticed that this morning after upgrading to suse's unstable repo |
| 15:23.23 | annma | you mean that changed recently then? |
| 15:23.45 | smurfslover | seems te be the default yes cause i upgraded before setting up kmail |
| 15:24.17 | smurfslover | had to remove 4.2 cause of constant plasma crashes |
| 15:24.22 | annma | really |
| 15:24.56 | smurfslover | also taskbar and systray were behaving strange |
| 15:25.02 | annma | anyway if you don't like the default just issue a bug report as a wish |
| 15:25.16 | annma | smurfslover: trunk self compiled? |
| 15:25.27 | smurfslover | suse unstable packages |
| 15:25.33 | annma | ah bah |
| 15:25.43 | spawn57 | for some reason all my links open up in kate.. |
| 15:25.51 | smurfslover | i don't have the time to compile a whole desktop myself |
| 15:25.55 | annma | neon, suse, all these do not work well |
| 15:26.08 | smurfslover | suse's 4.1.3 is great |
| 15:26.12 | annma | spawn57: some mime type is not well associated |
| 15:26.21 | smurfslover | tried it in pardus, mandriva, kubuntu |
| 15:26.22 | annma | 4.1.3 is stable |
| 15:26.26 | spawn57 | annma: oh.. hmm.. |
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| 15:26.36 | annma | it's great as well in mandriva |
| 15:26.46 | annma | mostly vanilla |
| 15:26.54 | smurfslover | didn't like it that much |
| 15:26.54 | annma | I was impressed |
| 15:27.01 | spawn57 | annma: any idea which one :\ |
| 15:27.14 | spawn57 | nm got it |
| 15:27.14 | smurfslover | in suse kde4 is much faster and more responsive |
| 15:27.25 | ^|Genocide|^ | is thunderbird better than kmail? |
| 15:27.30 | ^|Genocide|^ | or the reverse? |
| 15:27.50 | pinotree | the better is what you like more |
| 15:27.56 | ^|Genocide|^ | ok |
| 15:28.03 | ^|Genocide|^ | what about kpdf anybody use that? |
| 15:28.08 | ^|Genocide|^ | & k3b |
| 15:28.11 | Psi-Jack | Hmm |
| 15:28.12 | pinotree | what about kpdf? |
| 15:28.18 | Psi-Jack | Doesn't dolphin support ACLs? |
| 15:28.22 | pinotree | yeah |
| 15:28.23 | ^|Genocide|^ | i was lookin for some kde apps |
| 15:28.28 | ^|Genocide|^ | ran across kpdf |
| 15:28.31 | ^|Genocide|^ | wondered if it was any good |
| 15:28.37 | ^|Genocide|^ | & what one's thoughts are about it |
| 15:28.41 | ^|Genocide|^ | as well as k3b |
| 15:28.46 | pinotree | why should not be good? |
| 15:28.52 | ^|Genocide|^ | i dunno |
| 15:28.56 | ^|Genocide|^ | i've never used it |
| 15:29.14 | pinotree | try it |
| 15:29.22 | ^|Genocide|^ | i will when I get xorg & kde up |
| 15:29.46 | ^|Genocide|^ | kpdf, thunderbird, firefox, k3b, and mplayer |
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| 15:29.52 | ^|Genocide|^ | what I've considered using |
| 15:30.33 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: kpdf is somewhat superseeded by ocular. Unfiortunate booth are quiet slow on my system. |
| 15:30.54 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: what's ur system specs? |
| 15:31.01 | Psi-Jack | Okay. I'm not seeing ACLs in dolphin at all right now under KDE 4.2beta2. |
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| 15:31.28 | ghabit | Hello. Advice me please some software for desktop video recording. |
| 15:31.31 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^ laptop with mobile athlon 2000?, 512mb ram and a quiet slow hdd |
| 15:31.53 | Psi-Jack | ghabit: qt-recordmydesktop |
| 15:31.53 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: how did you install kde? |
| 15:32.03 | ^|Genocide|^ | k.. i got an athlon 1000 w/ 1 gb ram in a desktop |
| 15:32.10 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: From opensuse 11.0 UNSTABLE KDE4 repositories. |
| 15:32.12 | Frogbarf | some kde programs such as kword seem to have black fonts/compontens whose color cannot be changed such as the ruler. |
| 15:32.49 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: thx for tellin me bout ocular tho... ima check it out & u think it'll be slow on my sys? |
| 15:33.31 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: I don't know your system stats |
| 15:33.39 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: so right click on a file â properties â permissions â advanced, and you have no advanced permission table? |
| 15:33.54 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: I said athlon 1ghz & 1gb RAM in a desktop |
| 15:33.54 | Frogbarf | is there another option that lets you change such colors? |
| 15:34.08 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: Correct you are. |
| 15:34.25 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: 500 gb IDE hd |
| 15:34.30 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: is that file system setup for acl's in /etc/fstab? |
| 15:34.34 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: generally I find all ghostscipt based pdf frontends slow compared to acrobat reader. But this still does not stop me from refusing to install the acrobat one ... |
| 15:34.34 | ^|Genocide|^ | no wait.. 320 gb |
| 15:34.53 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: Via fstab and ext3 mount options set via tune2fs. |
| 15:34.55 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: thx good 2 know |
| 15:35.20 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: rendering of the pdf pages will be quiet small, but at least there is enough ram to cache them once rendered |
| 15:35.26 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: what bout p2p proggies like bearshare, 360 share, & torrent d/l software |
| 15:35.32 | ^|Genocide|^ | these things are a must |
| 15:35.56 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: I used only ktorrent on linux. That one seem to be very good |
| 15:36.04 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: KDE doesn't need eiciel to support ACLs, does it? |
| 15:36.05 | ^|Genocide|^ | :) thx |
| 15:36.18 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: i don't know what that is |
| 15:36.29 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: in a console, does getfacl on a file work? |
| 15:36.35 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: the fastest pdf reader I tried so far ist xpdf. But the interface leaves a lot to be desired. |
| 15:36.42 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: what kind of torrents r availiable for *nix/bsd systems... lol. I hadn't thought of that |
| 15:36.57 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: Yes it does. |
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| 15:37.13 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: that has nothing to do with the operating system you are using |
| 15:37.14 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: ya.. i checked that out too & made my decision on kpdf cuz of the interface.. but i think ima go w/ ocular |
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| 15:37.59 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: well, in the software department it does... lol. I mean movies/ebooks/music is cool but what about software... |
| 15:38.20 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: just make sure to set memory ussage to aggressiv in the settings of kpdf and okular so more prendered pages are hold in RAM. |
| 15:38.39 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: k will do... i've made a mental note |
| 15:38.55 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: do you think it makes sence to steal open source software? |
| 15:39.24 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: no.. lol. when I got to thinkin bout it I kinda figured that there wouldn't be much torrent software for the nix/bsd platforms |
| 15:39.56 | ^|Genocide|^ | i mean software for those platforms that can be d/led through torrents |
| 15:39.57 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: is the kdelibs you use compiled with acl support? (i hope so) what does `ldd `kde4-config --prefix`/lib/libkio.so.5.* | grep acl` say? |
| 15:41.14 | Psi-Jack | Oy. |
| 15:41.14 | Psi-Jack | Son-of-a-blah! |
| 15:41.14 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: You can download your linux software over torrents, too, but usually there are enough fast mirrors available. e(x.: http://packages.debian.org/sid/debtorrent) |
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| 15:41.17 | ^|Genocide|^ | cool :) |
| 15:41.24 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: Null. Grrr |
| 15:41.28 | ^|Genocide|^ | chlue: what bout video editing.. video authoring stuff? |
| 15:41.54 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: looks like it is not, then. it is probably worth asking in #opensuse-kde |
| 15:42.12 | ChemBro | ^|Genocide|^: i think, there is a software called kdenlive, or something like this |
| 15:42.24 | Psi-Jack | The authors of the OpenSUSE KDE4.2beta2 rpms are that of The KDE Team |
| 15:42.24 | pinotree | correct, kdenlive |
| 15:42.26 | ^|Genocide|^ | thx ChemBro |
| 15:42.41 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: "The KDE Team"... of openSUSE :) |
| 15:42.49 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: http://www.kinodv.org/ comes to my mind |
| 15:42.50 | pinotree | kde itself does not maintain distro packages |
| 15:42.53 | Psi-Jack | kde@kde.org != OpenSUSE |
| 15:43.16 | pinotree | kde@kde.org is an user support mailing list... |
| 15:43.24 | ^|Genocide|^ | thx guys :) i'll check 'em out |
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| 15:44.35 | ^|Genocide|^ | does kdenlive & kinodv got animations? |
| 15:44.35 | Psi-Jack | Okay,. I got a more accurate email. ;) |
| 15:44.43 | chlue | ^|Genocide|^: If you have a dvb-card http://dvbcut.sourceforge.net/features.html might help you. |
| 15:45.02 | ^|Genocide|^ | thx |
| 15:46.17 | ^|Genocide|^ | i love free shit |
| 15:46.47 | Psi-Jack | Go to a toilet then. |
| 15:46.54 | ^|Genocide|^ | :p |
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| 16:58.39 | Ratfink | what is the key sequence to show all the plasma widgets in kde 4.1? |
| 16:59.10 | illogic-al | does strigi depend on qt |
| 16:59.36 | illogic-al | what i want to know is if qt is required for strigi or if it's ooptional. |
| 17:00.02 | Ratfink | why don't you try to install it without qt, then if it doesn't work get qt |
| 17:00.02 | pinotree | optional, it provides a qt4 gui |
| 17:02.33 | Ratfink | what it strigi? |
| 17:02.33 | illogic-al | pinotree: ah see. thanks. |
| 17:03.00 | Ratfink | s/it/is |
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| 17:04.01 | Dumble | Hello world ! Happy new year / Bonne année ! |
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| 17:34.18 | schme_ | Hey guys. So I'm running this KDE software here and I get KIO::error(): "Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'http'. Anyone has any clue? |
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| 17:41.17 | annma | did you ask your distribution? |
| 17:41.49 | schme_ | annma: They won't help me. |
| 17:42.20 | annma | schme_: what distro and what app? |
| 17:42.21 | schme_ | annma: Also, no I did not, but they would not help me if I did ;) |
| 17:42.27 | schme_ | annma: debian, amarok 2.0 |
| 17:42.33 | annma | really why wouldn't they |
| 17:42.49 | annma | are other kde4 software running correctly? |
| 17:42.57 | annma | konqueror? dolphin? |
| 17:43.00 | schme_ | annma: Because I'm running amarok and kde from the experimental branch. |
| 17:43.07 | schme_ | I have no idea I don't run kde or any of those software. |
| 17:43.14 | annma | ah well |
| 17:43.22 | schme_ | no konqueror or dolphin on mah system. |
| 17:43.27 | annma | so does amarok work or not? |
| 17:43.38 | schme_ | Also I got the same issue yesterday when I built kde from source yesterday. |
| 17:43.44 | schme_ | Yup, it works just fine :) |
| 17:43.54 | annma | so ignore the error if it works |
| 17:44.02 | schme_ | So fine it even has me considering reinstalling KDE. Just I can't retrieve album cover art. |
| 17:44.06 | schme_ | (cause of that issue) |
| 17:44.30 | annma | what kdelibs version? |
| 17:44.31 | pinotree | broken kdelibs installation, complain to whoever provided the packages you are using |
| 17:44.40 | schme_ | hmmm... |
| 17:44.55 | schme_ | pinotree: But I got the same when I built the kdelibs from source though ? |
| 17:45.02 | schme_ | hmm... kdelibs version.. eeerr |
| 17:45.03 | annma | you built kde from source yesterday? |
| 17:45.06 | schme_ | Yes. |
| 17:45.08 | pinotree | then you messed up your installation :) |
| 17:45.09 | annma | what source? |
| 17:45.16 | annma | what source did you get then? |
| 17:45.17 | schme_ | annma: The svn of 4.1 |
| 17:45.51 | schme_ | kdesupport, kdelibs, kdebase, and one other I forgot. |
| 17:45.51 | annma | and you rebuilt _marok as well? |
| 17:45.51 | schme_ | Yup. |
| 17:45.58 | schme_ | pinotree: Probably. The installation guide didn't say much on how to do shit :) |
| 17:47.05 | schme_ | Welll.. I'll clean the gunk off my system and try a fresh build. |
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| 17:47.22 | annma | the installation guide tells everything |
| 17:47.36 | schme_ | No. It is just a step by step do this, do this, do this :) |
| 17:47.41 | annma | and? |
| 17:47.51 | annma | what do you expect? |
| 17:47.54 | schme_ | and when you try to look up the manpages for half the stuff.. well. |
| 17:47.59 | annma | ? |
| 17:48.01 | annma | manpages? |
| 17:48.13 | schme_ | Well I'm used to a readme saying look at ./configure --help, and man make. |
| 17:48.21 | schme_ | and the make man page is great. |
| 17:48.23 | schme_ | But nevermind :) |
| 17:48.25 | annma | ? |
| 17:48.29 | annma | man make? |
| 17:48.31 | annma | and? |
| 17:48.37 | annma | what will you do with man make? |
| 17:48.38 | schme_ | Uhu. so you learn how to use it. |
| 17:48.42 | annma | lol |
| 17:48.52 | schme_ | The KDE stuff I found just said "do this command, then this, then this" |
| 17:48.53 | pinotree | make cmake works as well |
| 17:48.54 | annma | so read the cmake doc |
| 17:49.05 | annma | then read the make doc |
| 17:49.05 | schme_ | indeed. |
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| 17:49.17 | schme_ | But as I said it dun really matter, it built just fine. :) |
| 17:49.29 | annma | the guide is for building just fine |
| 17:49.39 | schme_ | Yaaas. |
| 17:49.41 | annma | people in quest of more details will find them |
| 17:49.46 | schme_ | Ok. |
| 17:49.52 | schme_ | So where do I find details on my error? |
| 17:49.54 | annma | the guide is long enough not to add useless stuff |
| 17:50.19 | annma | so what is your system now? built or debian? |
| 17:50.23 | schme_ | debian. |
| 17:50.38 | annma | run amarok from konsole |
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| 17:51.00 | schme_ | ok. |
| 17:51.19 | schme_ | And? |
| 17:51.31 | annma | and pastebin output when you look from a cover |
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| 17:52.37 | schme_ | http://paste.lisp.org/display/73016 |
| 17:53.03 | schme_ | man klauncher is not so informative :( |
| 17:53.40 | pinotree | because you are not supposed to use it on your own |
| 17:53.59 | schme_ | Right. So where do I look for information on this error though? |
| 17:54.19 | annma | ask in #amarok |
| 17:54.26 | annma | I run trunk and it's fine |
| 17:54.30 | schme_ | They told me yesterday to ask #kde :) |
| 17:54.37 | annma | well then |
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| 17:54.47 | annma | ask #debian_kde |
| 17:54.56 | annma | if you use debian packages |
| 17:55.09 | annma | if they don't support them, then there's nothing you can do |
| 17:55.19 | annma | I suppose anyway your amarok version is a beta |
| 17:56.03 | schme_ | Well I dunno. I built 2.0 yesterday and I think it was officially released some time back |
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| 17:57.00 | schme_ | Thanks for the help there though :) |
| 17:57.06 | schme_ | starts building a fresh kde ;) |
| 17:57.48 | schafi | does anyone know where to find howtos / tutorials on writing kde4 applications? |
| 17:58.13 | schme_ | I'm wondering what the error actually means though, and where I find information on how these things work. |
| 17:58.30 | schme_ | (ie. what is an io-slave, etc) |
| 17:58.47 | pinotree | schafi: http://techbase.kde.org |
| 17:59.50 | schme_ | Ah crool. |
| 18:00.00 | schme_ | running kdeinit fixed it. |
| 18:01.05 | pinotree | which kdeinit? |
| 18:01.11 | pinotree | `kdeinit`? |
| 18:01.57 | schme_ | I ran kdeinit4 |
| 18:02.40 | schme_ | I only have that one (: |
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| 18:08.39 | Unlix_ | is someone here using kde 4.1.3 on freebsd 7.0? |
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| 18:13.39 | rtnpro | Hello |
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| 18:14.31 | rtnpro | I lately installed Fedora 10 and I find that the media keys don't work in KDE 4.1 |
| 18:14.54 | rtnpro | Can anyone help me in how to enable the media keys |
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| 18:16.50 | rtnpro | Did anyone hear me? |
| 18:18.21 | pinotree | yes |
| 18:18.38 | rtnpro | pinotree: Can you help? |
| 18:18.48 | pinotree | nope, sorry |
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| 18:19.09 | the_p | hello. There are some gps tracking devices from sony to geo tag the pictures taken with a digital camera. To tag the photos sony has software bundled with these devices but only for windows. Does anyone know if there is a possibility to download the data from these devices with linux/kde and add the coordinates to the exif data of the images? Has digikam such a feature? |
| 18:19.27 | rtnpro | pinotree: where do I look for a solution? any suggestions |
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| 18:20.11 | pinotree | just be patient |
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| 18:20.47 | rtnpro | pinotree: Is it a bug in KDE 4.1 that has not yet been solved? |
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| 18:22.10 | Guest35416 | Fedora is pretty good with kde4 isnt it? ( 1 - 0 voor Fedora on hardware out of the box ) |
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| 18:23.05 | the_p | i just found out that it is written on the digikam page that it can sync the position data with gpx files does by chance someone know if a sony gps-cs1 creates such gpx files? |
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| 18:28.17 | the_p | sorry for asking in the channel with a bit googling i found it out it seems to work. If someone is interessted, too. http://lkenhagen.de/geotagging_unter_linux_sony_gps_cs1_geotag_und_gpicsync |
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| 18:31.14 | adrian_ | hi |
| 18:31.38 | adrian_ | i have problem whit kmail |
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| 18:32.53 | adrian_ | in email i have not see picture in this mail |
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| 18:37.16 | Kovert | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.19 | ByteRider | Anyone that knows if KRFB works in kde 4.2 beta 2 ? |
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| 18:38.49 | Kovert | ByteRider: sorry I dont know |
| 18:39.02 | pinotree | Kovert: ask in your distro channel |
| 18:39.12 | Kovert | i did that why I am here |
| 18:39.21 | Kovert | no answer :-) |
| 18:39.26 | pinotree | be patient :) |
| 18:39.37 | Kovert | thanks :-) |
| 18:39.39 | cenuij | how can I add "compress as bz2" to the dolphin services menu (4.1.87) |
| 18:39.43 | pinotree | we don't know nor support things like: sources.list, apt, emerge, and al |
| 18:39.57 | pinotree | cenuij: did you install ark? |
| 18:40.04 | cenuij | yes |
| 18:40.04 | Kovert | can you tell me if the rss plasma is fixed? |
| 18:40.42 | Kovert | plasma = plasmoid |
| 18:42.41 | cenuij | pinotree: i already have "comrpess to...", "RAR Archive", "G-zip compresses tar archive". I would like to add "bz2 compressed tar archive" |
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| 19:09.47 | Phlogi | is this backtrace useful? http://dpaste.com/104953/ |
| 19:10.36 | SSJ_GZ | Phlogi: Not especially :/ |
| 19:10.37 | pinotree | i remember similar bt's |
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| 19:12.21 | SSJ_GZ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/191804 |
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| 19:15.48 | lukeW | what's the kde equivalent of gtk? |
| 19:15.57 | pinotree | Qt |
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| 19:15.57 | SSJ_GZ | lukeW: Qt |
| 19:16.02 | lukeW | ah okay |
| 19:16.05 | lukeW | thx |
| 19:16.49 | lukeW | so does that mean that wxwidgets doesn't support kde natively? |
| 19:16.54 | luke-jr | nope |
| 19:17.20 | lukeW | k |
| 19:17.23 | luke-jr | but that's ok |
| 19:17.28 | luke-jr | no reason anyone should use wx |
| 19:17.34 | luke-jr | Qt4 does everything wx does |
| 19:17.38 | lukeW | ah .. is wx no good? |
| 19:17.51 | lukeW | but wx is multiplatform i suppose? |
| 19:17.56 | luke-jr | so is Qt |
| 19:18.07 | luke-jr | and Qt is native multiplatform, unlike wx |
| 19:18.49 | luke-jr | that's why you can use KDE on Windows and Mac |
| 19:19.17 | lukeW | ah ok |
| 19:19.26 | lukeW | so is qt good for gnome too? |
| 19:19.26 | crazy_pete | what do u mean it isnt "native" multiplatform? |
| 19:19.51 | luke-jr | GNOME itself is no good ;) |
| 19:19.56 | lukeW | gah |
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| 19:19.59 | luke-jr | but I think Qt supports GTK natively too now |
| 19:19.59 | lukeW | well |
| 19:20.11 | luke-jr | crazy_pete: wx apps look different on any OS |
| 19:20.20 | luke-jr | Qt apps look native on Windows/Mac |
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| 19:20.46 | lukeW | k... i will look into all this |
| 19:20.48 | lukeW | thx |
| 19:20.57 | luke-jr | lukeW: 1 sec got a link |
| 19:21.06 | luke-jr | http://labs.trolltech.com/page/Projects/Styles/GtkStyle |
| 19:22.19 | crazy_pete | so u are refering to a look and feel not to an underlying software mechanism? |
| 19:22.43 | luke-jr | crazy_pete: in that comparison, yes |
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| 19:24.43 | lukeW | are you talking about native being = to UI components and style of the host system .. rather than conforming to the library style? |
| 19:25.08 | kriko | I have a bug report for short notifications not being played or some are cut. Which application should I choose? Btw, phonon is fine, amarok2 plays the small file ok |
| 19:25.13 | luke-jr | lukeW: what? |
| 19:25.33 | pinotree | kriko: again? which kdelibs version do you have? |
| 19:25.37 | luke-jr | lukeW: Qt uses the native GUI primitives to do stuff |
| 19:25.44 | luke-jr | as a result, it looks just like any other app |
| 19:26.00 | lukeW | so the interface will look like other programs on the host system |
| 19:26.04 | kriko | pinotree: opensuse last version from UNSTABLE repo. How do I check for exact version via cmd? |
| 19:26.05 | lukeW | right |
| 19:26.07 | luke-jr | exactly |
| 19:26.12 | luke-jr | and work like them |
| 19:26.21 | pinotree | kriko: kdeapp --version |
| 19:26.25 | lukeW | what if all systems have different featuresets? |
| 19:26.25 | luke-jr | in the case of Mac, your menu will be integrated into the desktop etc |
| 19:26.41 | luke-jr | lukeW: ? |
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| 19:26.55 | lukeW | one system might have a set of widgets that are supported in another system |
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| 19:27.01 | lukeW | *are not |
| 19:27.16 | luke-jr | lukeW: then Qt would use its own implementation |
| 19:27.20 | lukeW | k |
| 19:27.21 | luke-jr | but I'm not sure any of those exist |
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| 19:27.31 | lukeW | yeah, i was just thinking hypothetically |
| 19:27.41 | lukeW | i'll check out qt4 then |
| 19:27.43 | lukeW | it sounds good |
| 19:27.50 | kriko | pinotree: I don't have kdeapp application. Any other way? |
| 19:27.53 | luke-jr | and Qt's implementation would of course also use primitives that DO exist |
| 19:28.00 | pinotree | kriko: .... any kde application |
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| 19:28.50 | kriko | pinotree: KDE 4.1.87 (KDE 4.2 >= 20090101) |
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| 19:32.19 | kriko | pinotree: should I report it, is it still problematic? |
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| 19:39.30 | kriko | Meanwhile, does anyone else have problems with external player in kde4? seems like it is not working at all that option |
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| 19:40.57 | nik | hello |
| 19:41.25 | nik | where does kaddressbook save all contacts? (file, dir?) |
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| 19:47.42 | murrant_ | I thnk it is an ical file |
| 19:47.48 | murrant_ | no |
| 19:48.55 | murrant_ | not sure, but probably in .kde/share/apps/kaddressbook |
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| 19:59.53 | wvmac | can someone tell me where the trash location is in kde 4.2. |
| 20:00.05 | annew | nik: in .kde/share/apps/kabc |
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| 20:01.08 | annew | nik: it's called std.vcf and |
| 20:01.13 | annew | the numbered ones are backups |
| 20:01.17 | pinotree | wvmac: ~/.local/share/Trash |
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| 20:03.26 | wvmac | pinotree: thanks. |
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| 20:08.08 | ganeshix | I downloaded a couple of themes for KDE. I have KDE 3.5.9 |
| 20:09.08 | ganeshix | The two files downloaded are: 91311-domino_dustominorc.tar.gz and 91219-UbuntuDust~by-alingham.emerald |
| 20:09.34 | ganeshix | When I try to install them with ThemeManager, it does not recognize the format. Any alternative easy way to install them? |
| 20:09.50 | pinotree | emerald is not kde |
| 20:10.22 | ganeshix | pinotree, So that one cannot be installed? I downloaded from the KDE EyeCandy site... |
| 20:10.33 | pinotree | not with kde tools |
| 20:10.55 | ganeshix | And my gues is the other one also needs manual install... |
| 20:11.10 | arezey | you need compiz+emerald to use the .emeraldfile |
| 20:11.23 | ganeshix | I see... |
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| 20:13.37 | ganeshix | I'll try the domino one, though, which seems to be a true KDE theme. I found instructions for manual install... |
| 20:13.39 | jam3s2001 | is there any way to get the "classic" desktop style in kde4? |
| 20:14.15 | ganeshix | However, after opening the tarball, there is only an rc file... that's it. Where to put it? Under /themes ? |
| 20:19.32 | luca_b | jam3s2001: as in, folders and icons over the desktop? |
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| 20:22.11 | jam3s2001 | luca_b, very much, yes |
| 20:22.44 | luca_b | jam3s2001: You need KDE 4.2 (currently beta 2) in order to do that |
| 20:22.51 | jam3s2001 | luca_b, thanka |
| 20:23.24 | luca_b | jam3s2001: You can set a Folder View as the desktop, effectively creating an "old style" desktop |
| 20:23.38 | jam3s2001 | I just installed kubuntu on a partition separate from my regular gentoo+kde3, and I'm just trying to get things in a workable environment |
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| 20:24.23 | luca_b | jam3s2001: a FAQ on Plasma (the desktop shell) can be found at http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma |
| 20:24.37 | jam3s2001 | ooh, thanks |
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| 20:32.54 | DrSlony | Help, I was told to add "KDE_UTF8_FILENAMES=1" to /etc/env.d/02locale. Should I do this, or is this some relic of the past? (gentoo, kde4.1) |
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| 20:40.50 | pinotree | RichiH: around? |
| 20:40.58 | RichiH | pinotree: yes |
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| 20:43.09 | Khyota | do i really have to make an account on bugs.kde.org to comment on one bug? |
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| 20:55.17 | Half-Left | Khyota: Well yer otherwise people would be sayin all sorts of crap :p |
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| 21:00.57 | mooperd | Hi, KDE 4 is looking all rubbish, for instance the tabs on firefox have something wrong with them, and the fontd dont look nice |
| 21:01.05 | mooperd | Im sure it used to look better than this |
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| 21:01.29 | sredna | mooperd: firefox is not a kde app :) |
| 21:01.52 | mooperd | Yeah, but all the graphics look a bit off and the fonts look crap |
| 21:01.59 | mooperd | It used to look a lot better than this |
| 21:02.20 | Half-Left | mooperd: gtk-qt4 |
| 21:03.11 | mooperd | Half-Left: eh? |
| 21:03.18 | mooperd | does that need installing? |
| 21:03.37 | Half-Left | No, it makes gtk apps use Qt themes |
| 21:03.57 | Half-Left | Fonts and colours |
| 21:04.16 | Half-Left | A third party app |
| 21:04.20 | mooperd | ah, so it all looks like early 90's mac? |
| 21:04.53 | Half-Left | No, it makes the new oxygen theme look as good as it can in GTK |
| 21:05.39 | Half-Left | But Qt has a theme that goes nice with gtk clearlooks |
| 21:06.49 | Khyota | LOL |
| 21:07.00 | mooperd | how do I change the themes? |
| 21:07.51 | Khyota | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88352 |
| 21:08.05 | Khyota | this is silly, firefox beat konqueror to this |
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| 21:09.47 | Half-Left | mooperd: in the system setting dialog under apperance |
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| 21:17.23 | AntiSpammer | Hi people |
| 21:17.50 | AntiSpammer | noone wants to talk |
| 21:18.17 | Khyota | i do! |
| 21:18.23 | Khyota | oh wait, rong channel |
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| 21:40.00 | Ramblurr | anyone noticed a bug when pasting into a kde app, where the text gets pasted twice |
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| 21:46.30 | snaf_ | I'm running KDE4.2 beta2 and I just enabled the official nvidia drivers for my 8800, and it seems to be running a bit slower, is that known? |
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| 21:48.16 | SSJ_GZ | Ramblurr: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179205 |
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| 21:56.11 | Ramblurr | SSJ_GZ: yea that's it |
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| 22:00.12 | brain_net | hello |
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| 22:09.35 | azeth | hello |
| 22:09.58 | azeth | i have an issue with kpackage program |
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| 22:11.24 | azeth | i think kpackage is dumping some packages from my apt-get list and then crashing |
| 22:12.01 | azeth | so it doesn't show all of them, but only some random of them |
| 22:12.30 | azeth | and when I try to reload it, another random packages apper |
| 22:12.36 | azeth | *appear |
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| 22:20.01 | cysiaczek | hi |
| 22:20.26 | thorben | I get a "Failed to contact KDE global shortcuts daemon" Any ideas? |
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| 22:21.44 | fbe_ | hello. i'm not able to retrieve a value from a kde4 kwallet using dbus in a shell script. all goes well (GUI popup to ask me to unlock the wallet, id, entering folder, ...) but the value is always "". |
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| 22:21.54 | fbe_ | any knowledgeable people here ? |
| 22:22.16 | cysiaczek | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.23 | fbe_ | i must have missed something somewhere ... |
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| 22:23.04 | pinotree | cysiaczek: which distribution do you have? |
| 22:23.43 | cysiaczek | pinotree: Fedora 10 on KDE 4 |
| 22:23.56 | pinotree | cysiaczek: you should ask in #fedora |
| 22:24.17 | cysiaczek | pinotree: maybe you are right |
| 22:24.32 | thiago | fbe_: how did you make the call? and what call exactly did you make? |
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| 22:31.35 | Krooks | is it possible for my plasmoids/applets on my dsktop to be totally transparent without the dark background ? |
| 22:32.00 | friedrich| | sure |
| 22:32.13 | friedrich| | if you use a theme, which has a transparent background, yeah. |
| 22:33.00 | fbe_ | any guy with kwallet and/or kde<>dbus interaction knowledge here ? |
| 22:33.03 | Krooks | friedrich|: I use oxygen |
| 22:33.35 | friedrich| | Krooks: choose a different one |
| 22:33.38 | friedrich| | maybe glassified |
| 22:34.38 | pinotree | fbe_: thiago asked you two questions. |
| 22:34.49 | Krooks | freeedrich|: ok thanks |
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| 22:37.22 | fbe_ | pinotree: i said what i'm calling (--dest=org.kde.kwalletd /modules/kwalletd org.kde.KWallet.readPassword) and how (dbus-send in a bash script). what more do you want ? |
| 22:37.29 | thiago | fbe_: you'll have to investigate KWallet code to find out if readPassword is even supposed to work |
| 22:37.54 | thiago | pinotree: you didn't answer in this channel, pino had no idea you replied in #dbus |
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| 22:39.02 | pinotree | fbe_: â |
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| 22:47.49 | Shootdown | hi |
| 22:47.52 | Shootdown | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.38 | luca_b | Shootdown: hover over the name and a "-" should appear, click on it and it should remove the plasmoid |
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| 22:51.02 | Shootdown | luca_b: yes, but i want to remove a plasmoid from the list |
| 22:51.17 | luca_b | Shootdown: as in, uninstall? |
| 22:51.56 | luca_b | I don't think there's this functionality yet, as far as I can remember |
| 22:52.25 | Shootdown | yes ..indeed I installed from KDE Look but uninstall button doesnt work |
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| 22:53.26 | Shootdown | i wonder if there is any XML with this list |
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| 23:08.52 | ByteRider | Anyone that knows if KRFB works in kde 4.2 beta 2 ? |
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| 23:21.40 | stunmore | how do i change my folder color? |
| 23:21.40 | stunmore | the color of the icon? |
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| 23:27.18 | gl_ | right click properties and click on the icon? |
| 23:27.22 | Krooks | starting konqueror crashed. KHTML default stylesheet version mismatch. Aborting. Check your installation. File used was: /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/khtml/css/html4.css |
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| 23:27.47 | Krooks | It should use /usr/kde/4.2 |
| 23:28.30 | Half-Left | Erm, whats with kdebase from trunk gives a ton of cmake errors |
| 23:29.20 | pinotree | Krooks: paste in a pastebin the result of `env | grep XDG` and `env | grep KDE`, please |
| 23:30.26 | stoned | hello! |
| 23:30.35 | stoned | pinotree, hi happy new year |
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| 23:32.26 | Krooks | pinotree: solved. KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local:/usr/kde/3.5 . I changed it ro 4.2 and now ok. |
| 23:32.47 | Krooks | pinotree: thanks |
| 23:32.51 | pinotree | Krooks: you don't need to change, just to prepend the kde 4.2 prefix to it |
| 23:33.00 | pinotree | order matters |
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| 23:34.09 | Krooks | But I don't have 3.5 anymore. As of 20 minutes ago I removed all 3.5 packages. 3.5 is history for me. I'm not looking back. |
| 23:34.48 | pinotree | nope |
| 23:35.00 | drantin | may want to check if your package manager left some stuff behind... |
| 23:35.11 | pinotree | the fact that you have /usr/kde/3.5/share/apps/khtml/css/html4.css means that you have *something* of kde 3.5, libraries at least |
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| 23:35.50 | pinotree | and if you had really no kde 3.5 stuff, not even a small dust, then that error would had not been triggered |
| 23:36.02 | pinotree | so yes, you *have* kde 3.5 stuff, still |
| 23:36.23 | Krooks | pinotree: oh yeah. I have kdelibs-3.5.9 still because there is no kde4 version of k3b. |
| 23:36.44 | upstar | i do look back... thinkin about deleting 4.x.... too many strange probs... |
| 23:37.30 | Krooks | Man! k3b is the only app that is kde3 specific on my box |
| 23:38.10 | Half-Left | weirld |
| 23:38.15 | Half-Left | weird* |
| 23:38.34 | Krooks | Hope a kde4 ready version of k3b out soon |
| 23:38.35 | thiago | Krooks: use the KDE4 k3b |
| 23:38.49 | Krooks | is there ? |
| 23:38.51 | thiago | yes |
| 23:38.55 | pusling | thiago: it can't burn, last checked. |
| 23:38.58 | Krooks | thiago: thanks I will check it out |
| 23:39.00 | thiago | oh? |
| 23:39.03 | thiago | what happens? |
| 23:39.07 | pusling | nothing. |
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| 23:39.29 | GNU\colossus | it eats your family |
| 23:39.32 | GNU\colossus | alive! :-E |
| 23:39.35 | pusling | can't launch the recording applicaiton |
| 23:39.38 | thiago | ah |
| 23:39.48 | thiago | well, I noticed there were some easy fixes for it, annoying bugs |
| 23:39.51 | fr33m1nd | Krooks: can I ask you where do I change the KDEDIRS variable? |
| 23:39.54 | thiago | like not remembering the rip settings |
| 23:39.55 | upstar | anybody knows how to restart ex-kde3-kicker (taskbar) in kde4, what's it called in k4 again? |
| 23:39.56 | Half-Left | Just use ANY other burning app :) |
| 23:40.09 | thiago | upstar: plasma |
| 23:40.18 | pusling | "panel" |
| 23:40.26 | luca_b | upstar: kquitapp plasma; sleep 1; plasma |
| 23:40.45 | thiago | usually plasma crashes on exit, so it restarts itself after a kquitapp |
| 23:41.09 | Half-Left | If it crashes on exit thats bad :p |
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| 23:41.27 | thiago | trunk, that is |
| 23:41.28 | Krooks | fr33m1nd: I just export KDEDIRS=blah b;lah blah |
| 23:41.51 | fr33m1nd | Krooks: thanks :) |
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| 23:42.50 | upstar | thanks ! |
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| 23:43.12 | fr33m1nd | Krooks: it is in /etc/env.d/45kdepaths-3.5 |
| 23:44.37 | Krooks | oh nice. ok |
| 23:45.19 | Krooks | fr33m1nd: should we even edit it, my fellow gentoonian ? |
| 23:45.41 | fr33m1nd | i'll try to edit it |
| 23:45.49 | fr33m1nd | hope it will not break any kde3 applications |
| 23:47.32 | fr33m1nd | be right back, i am restarting my kde :) |
| 23:47.42 | freebsdoil | I can't get the sound to work in freebsd with kde...may I get some help please |
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| 23:56.18 | Half-Left | whats with kdebase, wont even get to make |
| 23:57.01 | fr33m1nd | when changed all variables from /blablalba/3.5/blablala to /bldasdas/4.2/blala |
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| 23:57.10 | fr33m1nd | everything seems to be fine |
| 23:57.44 | Half-Left | It's saying it can't find any of the key kde stuff |
| 23:58.26 | Half-Left | pinheiro: loads of errors liek this http://pastebin.ca/1299295 , latest kdelibs, kdesuport, kdepimlibs |
| 23:58.33 | Half-Left | pinotree: ^ |
| 23:58.36 | Half-Left | gah |