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00:04.15chrisaustinHello All, a quick question, I'm running Kubuntu with the KDE 4.2 updates and I'm wondering if there is any way to get kubuntu to display the login screen after a user goes idle?  Instead of just locking the current session?
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00:50.30chris_hi
00:51.22chris_does anyone know whether there'll be bluetooth support in kde 4.2?
00:52.01cb400fthink kdebluetooth is on it's own roadmap
00:52.41cb400fto my surprise kde4 kluetooth seemed to work in mandriva 2009.0.. though I only tried sending a file
00:53.20chris_so there is a frontend in mandriva for bluetooth?
00:54.02cb400fthere's kde4 kbluetooth.. it's in openSUSE too .. just doesn't work ;-)
00:55.40chris_darn
00:55.48chris_i really liked the kde3 one
00:56.11cb400fkde4 one is about the same.. it'll mature soon I expect
00:57.42chris_sure, but in kde 4 i cannot do file transfers, and that really sucks. anyway, i am just asking becausing i am thinking about going back to kde 4
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00:59.08cb400fuse commandline tools or the gnome tool or whatever for this one thing until it's fixed
01:00.43chris_i think i'll install intrepid again and hook up kde 3 as well
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02:33.55LeeQHello all, I have just installed Kubuntu 8.10 and need some help...
02:34.02LeeQI have it plugged into my TV and it detected the default resolution (1920x1080) properly, but the text is HUGE
02:34.11LeeQbut when I go into the system setup it says everything is set to 9pt font
02:34.19LeeQI have turned on the Nvidia drivers
02:34.41LeeQany ideas for the next step to fix things? google is failing me...
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02:35.07aseigowhat's the dpi?
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02:35.35LeeQhmm... how do I check that?
02:36.21aseigoxdpyinfo | grep resolution
02:36.32derek_kLeeQ: is it a 32" tv or something? 9 pt is relative
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03:11.13Styx993hello
03:11.26Styx993can someone help me use wifi without knetworkmanager?
03:11.53RellinStyx993:  You could install wicd.
03:11.59Styx993wicd?
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03:12.45RellinStyx993: It's an alternative to networkmanager, works very well for me.  Check your distribution's package manager.
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03:16.02derek_kStyx993: I'll second that. wicd works well
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03:18.02{COM}Styx...
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03:30.49derek_kdoes anyone know if kubuntu 8.10 have effects on by default?
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03:37.59GiganticI used an app to rip my cds a long time ago
03:38.11Giganticbut can't remember the name anymore,...
03:38.42Giganticit was a kdeapp... it looks up cddb and has good taging options...
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04:23.30DaSkreechAnyone on trunk or beta 2?
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04:25.54derek_kDaSkreech: yes
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04:27.36DaSkreechderek_k: Using kopete?
04:28.19derek_kno
04:28.26DaSkreechBlast
04:37.44Giganticare you having issues with kopete in B2?
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04:44.07DaSkreechNo I have issues with kopete in general
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04:44.26Giganticreal issues or just trolling?
04:44.29DaSkreechI just wanted someone close to what I'm using to bounce stuff off of
04:44.35DaSkreechreal issues :-P
04:44.47Giganticah ok, like what?
04:44.47DaSkreechthough I have trolling issues if you want some
04:45.09Giganticif I see another troll it will be baned
04:46.37Gigantictehn I will take a B12 and fly over it's city and bomb the hell out of it
04:46.49DaSkreechha ha
04:47.01Zorixdont feed the trolls
04:47.05DaSkreechderek_K: Blast!
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04:47.18DaSkreechI was going to check on some dolphin isssues as well
04:47.23kwenfhow do i change konqueror background?
04:47.36Gigantickwenf: kde3 or 4?
04:47.39kwenf3
04:47.49Gigantickwenf: go edit then view
04:48.15kwenfthx
04:48.18Giganticah no... edit then confuigure backround srry
04:49.41kwenfwell i found it in view > conf bg
04:49.52Giganticweird
04:50.06Giganticwhat version?
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04:54.01DaSkreechGigantic: hi
04:54.08DaSkreechWhat vers of KDE are you on?
04:54.27xanax`hello
04:55.15DaSkreechHi
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05:07.43bigsunhi, how can I delete last editing command from "QTextDocument()" internal stack?
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05:38.43NakkelHow do I use Krunner for something else than a application runner? Calculator I figured out but not how to access unit conversions, powerdevil or Konqueror sessions. Any documentation somewhere? Using beta2 atm.
05:47.09NakkelAh, unit conversions opened up. "20 miles in meters" etc.
05:48.54NakkelThere is a small bug in it though. It doesnt respect regional settings for decimal symbol, which in my case is "," instead of ".".
05:49.36NakkelNow to figure powerdevil and nepomuk.....
05:50.35DaSkreechNakkel: Patched for that I think
05:50.49DaSkreechnepomuk might be nepomuksearch
05:50.56DaSkreechpowerdevil I think starts with power
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05:55.51NakkelHm, no luck with those. Just launches nepomuk or power configuration apps.
05:56.16NakkelPowerdevil is low pri, but Nepomuk search would be nice to have. :)
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07:06.54sssshello i'm working wit kde
07:08.19ssssi got the following error when i executing a file edcf , KCrash: Application 'edcf' crashing...  KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly. *** Exited with status: 253 ***
07:08.50sssswat is *** Exited with status: 253 ***
07:09.02ssssany body help ,e
07:09.04ssssme
07:10.24sssshello
07:10.32ssssanybody
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07:11.58ssssRudd-0 can u explain  *** Exited with status: 253 ***
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07:12.54ryanCHdoesn't kde 4 have screen savers?
07:15.09aseigoit does
07:15.22ryanCHwhere?
07:15.39aseigosame place kde3 had them. hasn't changed.
07:15.47aseigossss: edcf is your own program?
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07:26.52DumbleHello world !
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07:27.46ryanCHprintf("Hello world");
07:28.33Dumblestd::cin << "Hello world !";
07:28.44Dumble(yeah, I can write on my keyboard :P)
07:29.05ryanCHlol
07:29.46ryanCHand it would be "cout" not "cin" .. btw ;p
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07:30.30Dumbleit was "cin" :P
07:31.17ryanCHnope, that's only for input ;p
07:31.29ryanCHstd::cout << "Hello, world !";
07:31.50ryanCHstring msg;
07:32.10ryanCHstd::cout << "enter something: ";
07:32.17ryanCHstd::cin >> msg;
07:32.26ryanCH;p
07:36.36J-23print "Hello world!";
07:36.38J-23;p
07:36.41ryanCHehe
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07:37.18J-23and in Python TAB TAB TAB TAB print TAB TAB TAB ENTER TAB TAB "Hello TAB world!" TAB TAB TAB
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08:55.07DanWardhey, what happens if i remove KDM?
08:55.54thiagothen you don't have KDM
08:56.16DanWardi mean on login, does it make any difference to the KDE
08:56.27DanWardafter login
08:59.53thiagono
09:00.00thiagoexcept that you can't reboot or power down the system
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09:00.31DanWardok thanks
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10:07.52annmagsc: so what are your serious ideas?
10:08.31annmagsc: you can note that I am part of the plasma team
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10:09.17gscannma: Great. I'm trying to phrase it very short.
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10:17.54gscannma: first of all: when hoovering over a starticon in the quick launch I don't need to balloon which says what program it is. I know what program it is (not to say it is useless), but instead some context would be more valuable as an addition.
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10:18.50annma?
10:18.59annmaquick launch?
10:19.28gscannma: all applications which operates on files should have an entry in their menu which states which are the most recent files that were opened.
10:19.45annma?
10:19.55annmaan entry in their menu?
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10:20.21annmagsc: first state proper names
10:20.31annmayou said you had "serious" ideas
10:20.40annmathat means you can name KDE components
10:21.20gscannma: how do you the call the icons again in the bar which starts the respective applications?
10:21.35annmascreenshot of this
10:22.05annmausually when you right click you would have the name with Configure <app>>
10:22.27annma"a balloon" -> not proper name
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10:22.48annma"a starticon in the quick launch" -> not proper names
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10:25.28gscannma: to avoid any confusions I'll try to put it on paper first with the correct terms. Is there any site I can forward it to?
10:26.08annmahmmm
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10:26.36annmathe correct procedure for wishes is to issue a bug report as wish to the proper component
10:26.54annmaas we said in #kde-devel, you MUST provide use cases
10:27.19annmause cases are studies on how users behave and why they want this feature
10:27.35annmawhy don't you need "balloons"
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10:27.47annma"balloon" not being correct though
10:27.51gscannma: OK, but where to forward it to?
10:28.00annmabugs.kde.org
10:28.08annmaas I just said
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10:28.37annmabut you really should expose your ideas here first
10:28.56gscannma: I'll try to even create mock-ups.
10:29.00annmaor you will waste our time if you express your ideas as you did here
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10:29.27annmagsc: FIRST find out the proper KDE component name of the app you are talking of
10:29.40annmaKDE menu is called kickoff
10:29.50annmaI did not understand anything of what you saiid
10:30.04gscannma: I'm a bit familiar with bugs.kde.org, but it is a more genereal proposal for KDE, where applications are also involvd, but only general.
10:30.28annmageneral?
10:31.01annmathere's nothing such as general
10:31.08annmaI personally have tons of ides
10:31.11annmaideas
10:31.11smurfsloverhow can i give names to my activities ?
10:31.15smurfsloverVersion 4.1.87 (KDE 4.1.87 (KDE 4.2 >= 20090101)) "release 3.1"
10:32.23gscannma: I'll put it on a personal wabspace and come back later.
10:32.44annmaas I said, get proper names for KDE apps and give use cases
10:32.49annmainterview other people
10:32.59annmadefine your use profile
10:33.27annmawhy do you dislike current behaviour and why do you want the one you propose
10:33.34annmawith precise terms
10:33.53annmayou might also want to contact the usability team
10:34.00gscannma: to provide extra functionality to the desktop and it's use.
10:34.04annmalol
10:34.08annmathat's TOO VAGUE
10:34.23dariohi everyone, i'm using kde 4.2 beta 2 on kubuntu, and i'm trying to migrate my pim datas to akonadi, which plugin should i use to import my mails from kmail dirs?
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10:34.31annmagsc: that's not a use case
10:34.54annmadario: import your mails from what to what
10:35.46annmagsc: contact the KDE usability team
10:36.13darioannma: from default storage in kmail in kde 4.1 to akonadi resource in 4.2
10:36.29annmaakonadi resource?
10:36.30gscannma: excellent idea, since it is actually all about usability
10:36.47annmagsc: but be prepared to be PRECISE which you are not
10:37.06gscannma: do I contact them via a mailing list?
10:37.14pinotree(usability... what a misused term...)
10:37.14annmaso better try to read a bit about usability from the internet and define your use cases
10:37.22gscannma, i'll me more precise.
10:37.54annmathere's a mailing list, you'll find it with google probably
10:38.21darioannma: isn't there a plugin in akonadi resource configuration (right click on akonaditrayutility -> configure) to manage emails and then backup them?
10:38.27annmadario: do you have akonadi working in your KDE 4.2?
10:38.46pinotreedario: akonadi is not a pim storage
10:38.51annmamigration is done automatically (to the bad of people having it not working)
10:39.07annmaakonadi resources start twice at KDE start for me
10:39.10annmanot sure why
10:39.13gscannma, but I suppose the mail will be on hold for review before it is actually forwarded to the list?
10:39.28annmagsc: just subscribe to the list
10:39.33annmaand BE PRECISE
10:39.59darioannma: icals and contacts are working fine, but since i'm doing pim backups i would be great if even my emails could be easily managed
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10:40.15annmaeasily managed?
10:40.25dariobackupped!
10:40.35annmais akonadi a backup tool?
10:40.50dariook, thanks for your useful help annma
10:40.56annmait's not working here, not sure why
10:41.18annmaask in #kontact even if I was told #kontact is not for users apparentlly
10:41.28annmanot sure what it would be for
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10:43.14subonedoes anyone know how dcop works? i am trying to send dcop signals to my running amarok from a script im running over the LAN, but i'm getting a return value of 1 with no other output, i assume because the www user doesnt have permission to use my dcop? how do i get around this?
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10:45.50thiagoDCOP is not meant to be used over a network
10:45.55annmadario: did you look at Akonadi tab in SystemSettings
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10:47.03subonethiago: alternative?
10:47.13thiagosubone: none. Don't control Amarok from the network.
10:47.39subonewell thats not at all the answer i was looking for
10:47.41subonelame
10:47.58thiagoyou must SSH into the machine and set DISPLAY properly
10:48.02thiagothen DCOP may work
10:48.16thiagoDCOP is keyed to the machine, username and X11 display
10:48.26GNU\colossusI've never had to set DISPLAY for me to have dcop work via SSH
10:48.46GNU\colossusgranted, i used to use dcop to control processes where EUID == UID
10:48.46thiagoif you want to control an application that is running in another display, you have to
10:49.07thiagoif just ssh -X into another machine and run a KDE 3 app, a new DCOP session will be started
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10:50.36bo_ciao hi all
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11:28.00habitHello. I've installed systemsettings package, but there are no colors edition page, which package should I install for?
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11:31.37annmahabit: this is to be asked to your distro channel. KDE ships kcm colors in kdebase/workspace/kcontrol/colors
11:31.51annmathis shows in Genral -> Appearance
11:31.56annmaGeneral
11:32.36annmafrom those informations, please ask in your distribution channel, KDE itself releases kdebase/workspace as a whole tarball
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11:46.31krionuxhi
11:46.57krionuxi'm having trouble using the "time settings" stuff in the "kde sysconfig panel"
11:47.16krionuxi'm running kde4 on fedora core 10
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11:48.10krionuxi'm setting up a ntp server name on the "automatically set date & time"
11:48.37krionuxclic, apply, but nothing append
11:49.23krionuxis the sysconfig panel using ntpdate ? or something else ?
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11:53.39_n0is it normal to see plasma & dolphin crash 10x/day?
11:53.50_n0just curious.
11:54.07Dario_Andres_n0: no..what version(or svn revision) are you using ?
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11:55.04_n0ubuntu intrepid with this line in sources.list:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
11:55.34_n0i'm not sure how to tell otherwise.
11:56.30pinotreewe don't know what that is.
11:56.32Dario_Andresyou can get the package versions using apt-get (I don't remember how)
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11:57.42_n0i'll look into that.  thanks.  i figured there must be something wrong with my setup.
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11:58.24pinotreeor in those packages
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11:58.52Dario_Andres(k)ubuntu packaging stuff is sometimes weird...
11:59.01Dario_Andresone bug reported had mixed kde4.1 and 4.2 (?)
11:59.08Dario_Andresreporter*
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12:19.23ErkiDerLoonyHi!
12:19.31Dario_Andresho
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12:19.48ErkiDerLoonyIs there anything roughly resembling rainlendar natively in kde?
12:20.02ErkiDerLoonyI mean some program that shows your dates etc. on the desktop.
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12:20.31Half-LeftWhich version of KDE?
12:20.44ErkiDerLoonyBest would be 4.
12:20.45ErkiDerLoony;)
12:20.59ErkiDerLoonyBut plasma can run karamba widgets, can't it?
12:21.02Half-LeftCalendar?
12:21.13ErkiDerLoonyYes
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12:21.31Half-LeftWell if you use 4.2 is quiet flexable
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12:22.00ErkiDerLoonyHalf-Left: Currently I have 4.1.3, but I'm just waiting for kdemod to release 4.2 packages.
12:22.00downhill_aaaaand I just forgot why I came in here. like walking into a room and forgetting why you went in... >.<
12:22.07Half-LeftYes plasma can use superkaraba widgets if you install it
12:22.10ErkiDerLoonyWhich might only be in a while.
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12:23.05Half-LeftCalendar in 4.2 uses extenders which you can detach and roll up the calendar widget
12:23.28ErkiDerLoonyCool!
12:23.38ErkiDerLoonyThat sound's pretty nice!
12:23.52ErkiDerLoonyCould I get the widget somewhere for 4.1?
12:24.01Half-LeftYer, you can detach it from the clock widget as well
12:24.15downhill_oh yeah, could somebody please explain to me the differences between the Oxygen and Ozone window decorators in Linux?
12:24.37Half-LeftErkiDerLoony: No it's 4.2 because of the extenders
12:25.08Half-Leftdownhill_: Difference people do it as I remember, thats about it :p
12:25.40downhill_oh, yeah 'cuz they look the exact same save the lame little option in the config window...
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12:26.15ErkiDerLoonyHalf-Left: Ok, then I'll just wait. Thank you!
12:26.34Half-Leftdownhill_: I'm doing a new screencast soon, No doubt show the calendar and it's new features
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12:27.14downhill_more power to you. but Half-Left, for the love of god, please talk in a mic and don't type everything into a documentation
12:27.27downhill_that's unbelievably annoying.
12:27.50downhill_the last thing I got to YouTube to do is read text in a video window ;)
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12:28.15Half-Leftdownhill_: I dont even have a mic, thankfully utube has annotations
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12:28.22downhill_gah
12:29.02Half-LeftMy other videos have anyway
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12:34.17PolitikerNEUHello everyone, does anybody know if/how it is possible to view the progress of individual files of a torrent in ktorrent (KDE 4.1)?
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12:36.38PolitikerNEUsorry, I have found it already
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12:37.44downhill_what opens kwin recordings?
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12:42.22farhad_hfhi
12:43.16farhad_hfis it possible to compile kdepim without installing akonadi in trunk? i dont want to use akonadi,
12:43.36downhill_n/m http://forum.kde.org/kwin-video-record-t-7864.html#pid9402
12:43.36Half-Leftdisable it then
12:45.27farhad_hfHalf-Left: i disabled it in kdepimlibs and compiled it , but i dont know what i have to do with CMakeLists.txt in kdepim
12:46.03Half-LeftYour can disable it with a command
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12:46.33Half-LeftNot at the compile time
12:47.12Half-Leftfarhad_hf: akonadictl stop
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12:51.43kronici've got a problem with twinview and the video mode/resolution
12:52.13kronicI've got two screens with different resolutions and the smaller resolution of the two runs of the physical screen
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13:12.44annmadoe sit work well for unzip and untar?
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13:17.13Gentlecan kmail do s/mime?
13:19.57marco@annma: what do you mean?
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13:29.29Gentlemarcan: annma wants you to check first if the rar file is maybe broken, for example with unrar x file.rar
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13:30.04mfilipewhat is the project that play video (with subtitle) in gstreamer for kde4?
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13:30.21mfilipebetter... what is the player*
13:31.35Half-Leftmfilipe: Dragon player or use a third party one with more features liek smplayer
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13:32.58mfilipeHalf-Left: but I want a player that use gstreamer
13:33.15mfilipesmplayer is good, but it uses mplayer
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13:33.21marco@gentle: the rar isn't broken
13:33.38marcoi installed rar package and everythig worked
13:33.42Half-Leftmfilipe: Any player that uses phonon will, you can select it on the sound option in systems ettings
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13:34.05marcothe problem is that if rar isn't installed ark gives lot of unknown error
13:34.19mfilipeHalf-Left: what are the players that use phonon?
13:34.20yao_ziyuanmy gnome handles small-sized chinese characters better,
13:34.21yao_ziyuanso i want to copy my gnome's fontconfig configuration for kde use.
13:34.21yao_ziyuanhow?
13:34.24marcoso the user will think that the archive is corrupted
13:34.55Half-Leftmfilipe: Dragon player
13:35.36mfilipeHalf-Left: is it accepting sutitle?
13:35.38mfilipesubtitle*
13:35.44Half-LeftNo idea
13:36.15Half-LeftWhy do you need gstreamer anyway, other player support subtitles
13:36.22Half-Leftor engines
13:36.28marco@anma: do you use kde trunk from svn?
13:36.40Half-LeftVLC uses Qt4 now
13:36.59marco@annma: could you test it ? try remove rar from your pkg manager and open a rar archive with ark
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13:38.58Half-Leftmarco: Ark is only a frontend so yes it will need rar, tar, zip libs ofcourse
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13:39.17marcoof corus
13:39.21marco*of course
13:39.39marcobut ark gives error without text and unknown error..
13:39.49marcohow can a user know that ark miss rar ?
13:39.55JucatoHalf-Left: I think what he's saying is that if rar isn't installed, Ark gives an error dialog box with no content
13:40.06marco@jucato: right :)
13:40.17marcois it an unhandled error maybe?
13:40.18yao_ziyuanhow do i use exactly the same font configuration in kde as in gnome?
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13:41.07yao_ziyuanfor example, both gnome and kde use DejaVu Sans 9 as menu font, but they display chinese characters differently
13:41.21bbussHey guys... my friend is traying to compile kde 4.1 (gentoo) and are getting an cmake warning in krunner and then a compile error in krunner too (cause makefile has problems i think), can someone take a look in his log file please? http://dpaste.com/hold/106816/
13:41.45Half-Leftmarco: Well from a compile point of view that is something you should add support for, from a package point of view thats their problem
13:41.57Gentlebbuss: #gentoo-kde please
13:42.41bbussGentle: ok, sorry.
13:42.44marcoi remember that in kde 3 ark could detect what you could compress and decompress
13:43.17marcoi think that ark should check for this compression app ( zip, rar, gzip..etc )
13:43.22Gentlebbuss: no offense meant, it's just that problems on gentoo are very different from problems anywhere else ;)
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13:43.54marcoand say: "oh i have found zip and gzip and... i can't handle this rar archive, please install rar"
13:44.04bbussGentle: no problem =]
13:44.08JucatoHalf-Left, marco: ark does detect. but dialog boxes that are caused by errors shouldn't be blank. otherwise how would a user know what the error is? :)
13:44.30Jucatoof course, not sure where the bug is (since no one using 4.2 has confirmed it yet)
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13:44.50mfilipeHalf-Left: thanks man! :)
13:45.10Half-Leftok, so Ark should say ' rar is not installed, please install it' in that box
13:45.16marcogood.. so i think ther's a bug?
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13:45.26marcoi have a blank box
13:45.31marcoHas someone here kde 4
13:45.34evdveldehi all, does anybody have a nice example of using kdnssd?
13:45.37marcosorry kde 4.2 trunk svn ?
13:46.06mnihi annma
13:46.15annmahey mni
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13:47.46mnii have started to become very busy on our prepration
13:47.50mnicos of time
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13:48.32flipflophow do I make Network Manager automatically activate a connection on start-up?
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13:49.48guaxflipflop: thats distro specific, try your distro channel
13:50.12flipflopswear to god, I have NEVER had a question answerd in this channel...
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13:55.03freeedrich|sounds rather like an issue with the kind of question he states..
13:55.42guaxsounds like time to lunch.
13:56.00Jucatoif you've never asked the right question in the right place, you'll never get a right answer :)
13:56.36_n0anyone understand why "Alt+Tab" "Alt+F2" "Alt+F3" wouldn't work in 4.1.3?
13:57.09Gentlekded not running or crashed maybe? It did work for me when I had 4.1.3 installed
13:57.51guaxi would suspect about my alt key, but if it work with another keys try the global shortcuts confguration for some messy config
13:58.02mnihi riddle
13:58.06pasteleshow i can move a panel ?
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13:58.19pastelesmy kde kde version is 4.1.3
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13:58.40vitalHow do I disable the notifications in KDE4.2beta?
13:58.51_n0kded4 says Could not load library "kded_globalaccel"
13:58.57guaxpasteles: you need to unlock the widgets, click on the plasma icon in the panel, then drag to where you want
13:59.51_n0Alt does seem to work with other keys.
14:00.10pastelesthe panel is unlock
14:00.59guaxpasteles: click on the plasma icon in the left side of the pannel, a ruler will apear up, just drag it
14:02.51pastelesok thank
14:03.00pasteleshow i can change the color of panel?
14:03.41guaxthat i dont know :)
14:04.04guaxdont think its even possible now without changing the plasma theme
14:04.14guaxwell, good luck, lunch time. see ya
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14:19.25Rasihmm
14:19.34Rasijust tried running fifa09 in kde with wine
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14:19.48Rasino matter if i have desktop effects enabled or not: its slow
14:19.58Rasieven having a kde-openbox-session... still slow
14:20.06Rasibut: if i start pure openbox: fast
14:20.13Rasii wonder what causes this
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14:24.02Kovertcan some on tell me how to get to the screen edge action configuratioin window
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14:27.25bulsahi, how can I add newsfeeds to the kontact 1.3 (kde4) summary view?
14:30.03thiagoconfigure the summary view
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14:31.41bulsathere are only popup notes,calender,mail and to-do list
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14:31.58bulsais there some special part I have to install on gentoo to get newsfeeds?
14:33.10thiagoakregator
14:34.40Jucatoakregator doesn't have a summary view
14:34.44bulsai have that and I can also select Feeds in the sidepanel
14:35.00bulsa... :(
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14:41.36animeloewhen looking for the google libraries it fails to find 'em despite being installed
14:41.52annmaanimeloe: how did you install them?
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14:42.41freeedrich|animeloe: and what version?
14:43.16animeloe0.10.4
14:43.21animeloeI'm upping to .5 now
14:43.30animeloevia ./configure && make && make install
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14:44.00annmawhat KDE version?
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14:44.28animeloesvn current
14:44.37freeedrich|.5 is needed
14:44.42animeloethe latest branch as of yesterday night around 2000
14:44.48animeloeupgrading now
14:44.50annmaPKG_CHECK_MODULES(GOOGLEGADGETS libggadget-1.0>=0.10.5 libggadget-qt-1.0>=0.10.5)
14:45.09animeloesaw that :)
14:45.13annmaso
14:45.16annmayou had the answer
14:45.18animeloeit's being done :)
14:45.25animeloei saw it AFTER asking :)
14:45.38annmaOK
14:45.41animeloemutters about version changes faster than you can implent/install :)
14:45.59animeloeinstall one version, only to find out it's too old (bah)
14:46.14annmagoogle-gadgets always need the latest as it evolves very fast and KDE makes it evolve
14:46.46animeloewell there was some stupidity with bluez and libnl
14:46.49animeloeapi changes
14:46.59animeloeI fixed it by add a , NULL to it
14:47.11animeloethe original function only had one value
14:47.16animeloethe NEW function has 2 values
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14:47.55animeloeit should at least give somethign saying *$LIBRARY is too old, upgrade* or something like that
14:48.04animeloefor slow... people like me :P
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14:50.47Moultevery so often, often when i am typing in a url into firefox and the dropdown of URLs pop up, my screen hangs. or sometimes a certain kde window like konsole just turns all black, and my screen doesn't update - only my mouse continues to move (keyboard doesn't respond). any ideas why? (i think this started happening after i emerged gtk-engines-kde4, could it be of that?)
14:51.11thiagotry removing it and see what happens
14:52.18Moultthiago: me?
14:52.21thiagoyes
14:52.59Moultthiago: i don't quite know how to test it ;)
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14:54.04Moultdesktop effects could be another reason, i don't seem to get the hangs if i turn it off
14:54.13thiagoAlt+Shift+F12
14:54.26thiagowhen your screen turns black, try hitting that combo
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14:55.01Moultthiago: i tried, but my keyboard is unresponsive, i guess i'll try it before it goes to the hanging stage
14:58.00Moultthiago: hmm i'll try provoke it holdo n
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14:59.20Moultthiago: ok, i think i know what's causing it
14:59.26thiagowhat?
15:00.08Moultthiago: ok, (i'm testing by randomly prompting the firefox url bar) i turn off my desktop effects (with gtk-engines-kde4 still there) and everythings fine
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15:01.06Moultthiago: with the desktop effects on, it'll hang if i'm unlucky, if i'm lucky, it'll resume after a while
15:01.16Moultthiago: so it's like a sort of epic lag
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15:02.42sidhhello gentle(wo)men
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15:04.58downhill_heya sidh.
15:05.20thiagoMoult: NVidia?
15:06.44Moultthiago: yea
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15:07.14thiagowhich version?
15:07.36Moultthiago: 180.18
15:07.39sidhi'm installing kubuntu 8-10 for a noob
15:08.21sidhi can see his fat32 partition but all accentuated file name are replace with ? in black square
15:08.30sidhis it an encoding problem
15:08.40sidh?
15:08.43Moultthiago: hmm, just recieved the message "compositing is too slow and has been suspended.
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15:09.12sidhcan i add an option to fstab to work around this accent problem
15:10.01thiago180.x has been fine for me for a while
15:10.02thiago177 is bad
15:10.32downhill_sidh; you're asking in the wrong channel :) #Kubuntu
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15:11.22theblackboxhey all how do I get the sound system to show up in the taskbar... just can't seem to find the right setting
15:11.31theblackboxkde 3.5
15:11.39pinotreesound in taskbar?
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15:12.05Moultthiago: ok, just hung (rebooted)
15:12.18Moultthiago: strangely it hung after the little "we've suspended your compositing because it's too slow" message
15:12.22theblackbox"taskbar" as in next to the time/date and "sound" as in the shortcut to the equaliser
15:12.27Moultand again, as i was typing into the firefox url bar
15:12.29downhill_theblackbox; kmix is what you want.
15:12.30theblackboxpinotree, ^^
15:12.34theblackboxthat's the one
15:12.42pinotreetheblackbox: this is called "panel", and you want the kmix applet
15:12.54pinotree(or just to run kmix as icon in the tray)
15:13.02theblackboxyeah got it now, cheers
15:13.10downhill_theblackbox; enjoy :)
15:13.25theblackboxI though panel was the other side, where my "quicklaunch" buttons are and my desktops
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15:13.33theblackboxbut all good
15:13.47pasteleshow i can hide a panel?
15:13.52pastelesi have kde 4.1.3
15:13.52downhill_theblackbox; technically the "panel" is the whole thing, but who really cares? ;)
15:13.58theblackboxdownhill_, cheers - can finally get my ACDC to full volume easily now ;)
15:14.01downhill_pasteles; you can't until 4.2
15:14.15downhill_theblackbox; \m/ For those about to rock...
15:15.11theblackboxwill have to get the Led out next.... AAAHHHHAAAAaaaahhhhhhAAAAAAA!!!! DunDuggaDunDugga....
15:15.30downhill_not a big zepplin fan myself, but to each their own.
15:15.48pastelesok, i update my kde for hide the panel
15:16.08downhill_pasteles; 4.2 is still in beta, expect things to break and be buggy if you update early.
15:16.27downhill_pasteles; it's due out soon, so maybe you'd like to wait? :)
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15:17.46Jucatorc1 in a few days or so
15:17.56downhill_oh snap, I didn't know that.
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15:24.59Moryddhow can I automatically start digikam when I connect my camera?
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15:34.47downhill_Hello Mr. or Ms. kde4 :p
15:34.53kde4hi there
15:35.08kde4first time here :)
15:35.24Moultkde4: i use you
15:35.32kde4hahaha
15:35.32downhill_me too!
15:35.46downhill_kde4; you freaking rock!
15:35.53kde4I got that nick because I'm working with that user right now
15:36.04kde4trying to actually install it
15:36.22downhill_hmm, from source or precompiled packages?
15:36.32kde4and I run into some trouble... thought that I could maybe find some help here
15:36.35kde4source
15:36.53kde4I'm using Slackware
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15:37.42kde4so... first question if I may... is this the right place to ask something like that?
15:38.00downhill_it'll work.
15:38.34downhill_there's also #kde-devel, but I really don't know which one would work better than the other. I'm sure others in here compile from source, too.
15:39.04kde4I didn;y wanted to go to #kde-devel... souns like a developer channel :P
15:39.13downhill_*nod nod*
15:40.45kde4so... let's see... I'm trying to cmakekde kdelibs... and I keep getting CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:36 (FILE): \ file INSTALL cannot copy file
15:40.58kde4"/home/kde4/KDE4/build/KDE/kdelibs/kdemacros.h" to
15:40.58kde4<PROTECTED>
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15:41.31kde4I already tried touch kdemacros.h but it didn't work
15:41.38kde4any ideas
15:42.03kde4oh... btw... I already did make clean... svn up
15:42.10kde4so I'm running the latest
15:42.34kde4any ideas?
15:44.39downhill_kde4; that's part of kdelibs...
15:45.04downhill_er, sorry, you knew that. did you check it out>?
15:45.28annmakde4: do you build manually or using a distribution?
15:45.36downhill_building manually.
15:46.15annmafirst build?
15:46.24kde4I'm following the steps to build from techbase... so I just did svn checkout and then cmakekde... and I never use distro specific packages
15:46.28downhill_needs to see the cmake file and/or exact error.
15:46.32kde4yes first time
15:46.49annmapartitions rights are OK?
15:47.07annmapartitions and install folder?
15:47.13kde4how can I show you the exact error? (bear with me... first time for both installing kde4 and also for being here)
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15:47.28downhill_kde4; www.slexy.org <---pastebin
15:47.32Moultcan somebody here using konsole try set the short cut for Previous View to ctrl-backtab? (that's ctrl-shift-tab) and tell me if it works?
15:47.41downhill_just paste it in there, then give us the resulting URL.
15:47.51Moryddhow can I automatically start digikam when I connect my camera?
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15:48.20downhill_the cmake file would be good, too.
15:48.42thomasa88_Hi, is there any way in kde 4 to assign a key to run a custom command?
15:49.13annmano need for the cmake file downhill_ you can see it online with websvn.kde.org
15:49.23kde4like this? --> http://slexy.org/view/s2MtXdGh8i
15:49.34downhill_I dunno which one it is, annma :D
15:49.42downhill_kde4; yep
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15:50.41sidhdownhill_: sorry but you're wiping me a little too quickly
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15:50.45downhill_kde4; check the output of: ls -ld /home/kde4/KDE4 for permissions.
15:50.55downhill_sidh; wha?
15:50.55kde4let me see
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15:51.24sidhaccent problem while mounting a fat32 partition is not a special kubuntu problem
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15:51.40annmaaccent problem?
15:51.44sidhit is quite easy to say go to #kubuntu
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15:51.54annmasidh: retell your problem
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15:52.25kde4downhill: drwxr-xr-x 9 kde4 users 4096 2009-01-09 13:02 /home/kde4/KDE4//
15:52.28downhill_sidh; pay me to help people and I'll care.
15:52.44annmadownhill_: hmmm
15:53.14annmasidh: can you retell your problem please?
15:54.22kde4downhill: did that help? if I get it right I do have the proper permissions
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15:55.48downhill_kde4; yeah, it seems the permissions are ok...
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15:56.35downhill_kde4; for right this moment I suppose you could chmod 777 your KDE4 directory to see if it makes the problem go away...
15:56.43downhill_looks ok tho
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15:57.17kde4downhill: google trew this earlier --> http://forum.kde.org/cmake-error-make-installing-kdebase-80-t-16779.html
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16:00.15pasteleshow i can install this librarys(kworkspace/kworkspace.h)?
16:00.18downhill_welcome back.
16:00.40Moultum, when i ctrl-v something into the url bar of konqueror, why does it paste twice?
16:00.40downhill_kde4; does /home/kde4/KDE4/build/KDE/kdelibs/kdemacros.h exist?
16:00.52kde4let me check that for you
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16:01.47kde4downhill: yes I see it
16:01.51downhill_kde4; I think I found the problem, it was renamed in trunk. it's now "kdemacros.h.cmake" try: ln -s /home/kde4/KDE4/build/KDE/kdelibs/kdemacros.h /home/kde4/KDE4/build/KDE/kdelibs/kdemacros.h.cmake
16:01.57downhill_kde4; wait, is it empty?
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16:03.43kde4downhill: nope... it has stuff in it
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16:06.03DarkSmokehow good is kde4.2 beta 2 ?
16:06.15cb400frc1 is out in a few days :-)
16:06.28downhill_B2 is pretty buggy for me here :/
16:06.53annmaDarkSmoke: wait for rc1 or final
16:07.32DarkSmokeok guys
16:07.33DarkSmokethanks
16:07.44DarkSmokei want it because someone told me kopete will be using the wlm protocol
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16:07.59DarkSmokeand i want to change from aMSN to kopete , but currently it doesnt support offline things
16:08.01downhill_DarkSmoke; not to give false hope or pump you up too high, but stable releases have been kicking ass for a long time now. should be good.
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16:11.35annmapasteles: pardon?
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16:11.51DarkSmokesomebody knows some as good as firefox browser but is QT instead of GTK ?
16:12.15downhill_wonders if the Qt version of Firefox is ever going to be released.
16:12.50annmano browser is as good as firefox
16:13.02mark_alecDarkSmoke: opera uses Qt
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16:14.42pastelesi need install  this kworkspace/kworkspace.h
16:15.01DarkSmokei hope konqueror will become better in kde4.2
16:15.10DarkSmokemaybe i will start using it as my default browser
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16:15.15annmapasteles: for what?
16:15.16DarkSmokei want a complete kde desktop :(
16:15.25downhill_kde4; I'm really not sure what to tell ya :/
16:15.27annmaDarkSmoke: what is bad in it?
16:15.40downhill_check the CMake file for references to the file?
16:15.59DarkSmokefor example, the alpha flash 10 64 bit plugin is compatable with firefox but not with konqueror annew
16:16.10kde4downhill: don't worry about not being sure... how do I do that?
16:16.14pastelesfor install a plasmoid
16:16.15annmaflash, hu
16:16.15kde4:)
16:16.17DarkSmoke* annew
16:16.22annmapasteles: what plasmoid?
16:16.25annmaannma
16:16.48annmapasteles: one you build yourself?
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16:17.09x264im not able to take screenshot of just the active window. I tried alt+printscreen but it does nothing
16:17.29annmause ksnapshot
16:17.38downhill_kde4; just open it with your favorite text editor...
16:17.40pastelesno, this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/SMHI+weather+plasmoid?content=93235
16:17.47DarkSmokeif i install kde4.2 , and i compiled kvirc against kde4.1.3 , will i have to recompile it ?
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16:17.57x264annma thats what im using
16:18.04x264it does only fullscreen, not active window
16:18.10kde4downhill:give me a min I'll check that
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16:18.38annmano x264 there's a setting for fullscreen, window and region
16:19.04annmapasteles: pastebin output of building please
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16:19.15annmain a pastebin
16:19.18x264tried all those settings, annma but it still saves the whole screen
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16:20.19annewDarkSmoke: did you mean annma?
16:20.32annmax264: so it might be a bug
16:20.36DarkSmokei dunno, you confused me now lol
16:20.43x264mm, okay
16:21.23pastelesannma-> http://pastebin.com/m609f1604
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16:23.54annmapasteles: please edit the file plasma-applet-smhi-0.1/src/CmakeLists.txt
16:23.59annmaCMakeLists.txt
16:24.23annmaline 20 remove this kworkplace
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16:25.18MrRatIs there a known reason why having Option "BackingStore" "true" causes kde to crash with nvidia?
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16:26.10thrasholdHow can I copy someone's away message to clipboard in Kopete?
16:26.24pastelesannma-> the name of file is correct, is name CMakelists.txt
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16:26.43kde4downhill: I didn't find any reference to the file... in the meantime... I did make clean and svn up again... rebuilding right now
16:26.53Half-LeftMrRat: Some options maybe a bit to aggressive, backingstore my affect any DE
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16:27.19thrasholdOr at least have it somewhere on the screen in a way I can retype it?
16:27.35thrasholdIt goes away as soon as I click the window where I'm typing it.
16:27.42annmapasteles: as I am on kde 4.2 it does not build as such, tell me if you have other errors
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16:28.27Half-Leftthrashold: use klipper or notes
16:28.28praedorI have run into a problem with konqueror in kde4 (4.1.3) in mandriva.  I go to the online.kitco.com website, seek to purchase some coins, and instead of opening up the purchase window (a perl script) I get an annoying window asking if I want to save it or open it in bluefish instead.  Firefox, on the other hand, properly goes to the purchase window.
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16:29.08praedorin no way can I get to the purchase scriptlet/window in konqueror.
16:29.12thrasholdHalf-Left: How would that help?
16:29.18victorlf___in kde-4.2 beta 2, in the quicklaunch widget, how can I add, for example, a firefox icon? (if I add /usr/bin/firefox the icon is a shell script)
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16:30.44Half-Leftthrashold: They both store copied text
16:31.07thrasholdHalf-Left: Yes, but I don't have any copied text. I want to get the text from a tooltip.
16:32.03Half-LeftDont know how you would do that since you can't copy tooltip text as I know of
16:33.04thrasholdHm, OK, I'll try to capture with GIMP, thanks anyway...
16:33.32Half-Leftthrashold: Screen capture use ksnapshot
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16:34.00chakiehm, kmail crashes on startup. didn't do that yesterday
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16:38.22downhill_kde4; sorry, I was gone. hope it works this time.
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16:38.59downhill_I'm out of ideas and have some stuff to take care of. good luck!
16:39.11downhill_sorry I didn't have an easy & quick fix for ya
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16:44.40Moultwhat happens when one of you right click on the Nepomuk icon on your systray and click configure strigi indexing?
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17:03.36praedorAny ideas on why konqueror, kde 4.1.3, is unable to handle a web script in perl and insists on either saving the file or opening it in bluefish while firefox opens the perl script window right up, no problem?  http://online.kitco.com when ordering coins or bullion
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17:05.02tstaerkpraedor, this is normally a web server problem
17:05.10tstaerkdo you have another behavior with firefox?
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17:05.51praedorsure...my online banking site scripts don't work in konqueror but they do in firefox so any online banking I wish to do has to be done in firefox.
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17:06.29praedorwhy would a web server cause konqueror to not be able to open the order window?
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17:33.28mlankhorstI'm trying x64 konqueror with the x64 flash plugin, it works, except all video sites show blackness instead of real videos
17:33.34mlankhorstis this a known problem?
17:33.45farhad_hfhi
17:34.54farhad_hfi'm tring to compile pykde , i have an error about qhostinfo , what's this ?
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17:43.39aseigofarhad_hf: #kde-devel perhaps
17:43.46aseigomlankhorst: does it work in ff?
17:44.00mlankhorstaseigo: yeah
17:44.12aseigomlankhorst: hm. odd.. duno
17:44.16mlankhorstIt's just showing video that's troubled
17:44.32mlankhorstconsiders scouring bugtracker
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17:52.28kde4aseigo: hi... sorry for the somehow stupid question... but are you Aaron Aseigo?
17:53.14tstaerkhe is Aaron Seigo ;)
17:53.29tstaerkor El Presidente
17:54.26mlankhorstgodfather?
17:54.40kde4wow... honestly... I got into seriously learning kde because of his blog :D
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17:55.11Dumbleyes, there is a lot of interesting stuffs
17:55.16kde4can I get an autograph? lol
17:55.22kde4:P
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18:08.25x_linkIs tehre any function in KDE4 that will reset all your settings?
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18:09.03pinotreewhich settings? really everything?
18:09.20x_linkYeah, I think so.
18:09.27x_linkI'm helping a guy now, will ask him.
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18:12.44x_linkpinotree: Yeah, all settings.
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18:18.07x_linkIs that possible or?
18:18.43pinotreetry to move $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/config away
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18:19.49pinotreex_link: would be useful to know also the real issue your friend has
18:20.10Mirrakoratm whenever I paste something in an QT4 app, it gets pasted twice..
18:20.12Mirrakorwhat's the thing?
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18:20.46x_linkpinotree: He said he changed to much settings so he doesn't know what's what now hehe
18:21.16pinotreex_link: what he has done so "bad" that he needs to reset the settings?
18:21.26x_linkpinotree: Don't ask me =)
18:21.32x_linkWell, it's not a friend.
18:21.44farhad_hfMirrakor, its fixed, in trunk, i think :P
18:21.46x_linkIt's a GNOME-user I'm trying to get to use KDE instead.
18:22.00x_linkpinotree: But I gave up on him now, but thanks anyway
18:22.13MrRatx_link: tell him to log out of kde, remove ~/.kde and restart kde
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18:22.26x_linkOkej.
18:22.43Mirrakortzz :D
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18:26.12rakeknivenWhich tool to check audio input on kde 4.1.3 on opensuse 11.0? I want to use skype. Right now I do not get any input. I hear something using a headset.
18:26.29kde4hi... anyone knows if downhill logs in everyday? or how could I reach him? I need to thank him
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18:31.20rakeknivenIs krecord ready to work with kde4 (phonon)?
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18:50.50RichiHgrr
18:51.12RichiHkde 4.1.96 reproducably exits the user session when i pres ctrl-alt-del
18:51.18RichiHwith a fresh .kde4
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19:00.04cb400fRichiH: sure you don't accidentally press ctrl+alt+backspace? ;-)
19:00.10RichiHno
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19:01.47jeanfrancisRichiH, is KDE 4.1.96 out ? I don't find it on the mirrors
19:02.08cb400frc1 is tagged.. will be released on the 13th I should think
19:02.12pinotreenope, next week
19:02.33RichiHjeanfrancis: 'out' is vague, here
19:02.47RichiHthere are semi-official debian packets
19:02.53RichiHwhich is good, as i already found one bug in them
19:03.14jeanfrancisokay I see :-) I meant the official tarballs :-)
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19:03.29jeanfrancishehe I see, I think I'll wait for the official source then
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19:05.17RichiHerm, package
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19:32.12FreakGuard.... or not
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19:55.39DarkSmokehey guys
19:55.54DarkSmokewill a panel like the Mac Os X be implemented in kde 4?
19:55.59DarkSmokeor is there already one available ?
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19:58.03Dumblethere is one there : http://xqde.xiaprojects.com/, but I don't know if it works
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19:58.35DarkSmokeor maybe something to make the kde panel taskbar show only the icons of open windows instead of the icon and window title?!
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20:03.16grandiare there any good reasons why i should ditch kde3 and switch to kde4?
20:03.50frandograndi: well, depends on what would possibly be a good reason for you
20:03.54reavertmkde4 is shiny! and for the most important - it works - you may wait for 4.2 though
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20:04.46frandograndi: if you value a great looking desktop with many improved applications, well, then go for kde4. If nice look and feeld doesn't meen a lot to you, if you just want what you always had and are happy with it, than just stay with it
20:05.43DarkSmokeyeah but if you like the other things mentions by frando then you should switch
20:05.45frandograndi: personally, I'd totally recommend kde 4. "killer reason" are e.g. the new dolphin, kmail in trunk (4.2), plasma in 4.2 is really, really nice too (a lot slicker than good ol kicker)
20:05.50DarkSmokekde 4.2 ha become damns nice!
20:05.57frandoit really has
20:06.12DarkSmokeits a big improvment from kde4.1
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20:06.34DarkSmokekopete and konqueror has both improved, im throwing away aMSN and Firefox now
20:06.43DarkSmoketotal KDE4/QT4 desktop ftw!
20:06.54DarkSmokewhat i wish for now is  a mac os x like dock :(
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20:12.39grandidoes kontact work well?
20:12.54grandior or the programs that belong that make kontact
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20:14.17grandiand when is 4.2 going to come out?
20:14.31grandii'd guess it's in kubuntu 9.04
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20:15.41Skrot-release schedule says january 27th for KDE 4.2
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20:19.53path_devastatedhi
20:20.05Half-Leftgrandi: Love kmail in 4.2, alot better
20:20.20frandograndi: I'm personally only really using kmail from kontact, but that really improved *a lot* in 4.2
20:20.25path_devastatedhow can i open files in kde with admin right?
20:20.41path_devastatedi want to edit system files but i dont want to use the console
20:20.45frandograndi: there will most likely be a ppa repo to install 4.2 on 8.10
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20:21.14grandipath_devastated: use sudo
20:21.21path_devastatedwithout console
20:21.23path_devastatedwithout!!!
20:21.33grandi:)
20:21.33path_devastatedwhy cant i rightclick and "open as root"
20:21.36path_devastatedor something like that
20:21.37grandikdesu?
20:21.41grandior is it kdesudo now
20:21.57path_devastatedhow does it work?
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20:22.12grandialt-f2
20:22.17path_devastatedif i rightclick a file, i can type in  open with ... kdesu
20:22.26grandiand kdesudo kate
20:22.31path_devastatedbut how do i know the program that i have to open the file with? ...for example a script?
20:22.41path_devastatedthat should be executed
20:22.50path_devastatedi dont know with what program i have to open it
20:23.15path_devastatednever thought it would be that hard to configure something without the console
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20:48.57Raccoon-Foxhiya. i use kde 3.5.9... i'm about to upgrade my machine from mandriva 2008.1 to 2009.0... will it delete 3.5.9, or will i be able to continue using KDE 3?
20:49.13pinotreeRaccoon-Fox: #mandriva
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21:00.02Rasiok.. i tested every window manager i can think of.. and its a fact.. as soon as i have a kde session (with whatever WM set) wine gets much slower
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21:00.13Rasiif i use the same WM's on its own, its full speed again
21:00.17Rasitested with fifa09
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21:00.50Rasi1st thought its the compositor.. but i disabled it and it wouldnt have an effect on other WMs anyway
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21:02.09Kame2maybe you have not enough ram to load kde and wine at the same time?
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21:02.38Rasiits not that it doesnt run.. but its skipping frames
21:02.42Rasiand 2gb should easily be enough
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21:02.58Rasiand i also tried it with a full blown gnome session
21:03.02Rasithere it works
21:03.10Kame2which kde-version do you use?
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21:03.18Rasigit from yesterday
21:03.25Rasiehm
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21:03.48Rasithe only explanation i have is composite.. but openbox-kde-session doesnt have a compositor
21:03.59Kame2as trunk is open for kde 4.3, there may be some things in, that slow it down...
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21:05.29Kame2but there may be some other reason. i remember that kde4 crashed X as i used older intel-drivers. even if desktop effects are off
21:05.52Kame2so there is something in kde that switches something in X
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21:21.36WishMasterNNDHey there, do you know if there are any plans to enable previews for folderview?
21:22.19WishMasterNNDI just installed OpenSUSE 11.1 at my dad's PC and he won't stop complaining about the missing preview feature which used to be in KDE 3.
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21:24.17SSJ_GZWishMasterNND: It's in 4.2.
21:24.33annmaSSJ_GZ: is xine mandatory for building kdebase?
21:24.54SSJ_GZannma: Hmm ... don't know, I'm afraid - I always have it, though.
21:25.09annmaok thanks
21:25.13SSJ_GZnp
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21:31.21WishMasterNNDSSJ_GZ: Thank you. I'll just update his version to the UNSTABLE one.
21:31.31SSJ_GZCool :)
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21:35.36KomiaPoikahi
21:35.44KomiaPoikawill kde4 ever feature a slide show screensaver?
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21:37.33WishMasterNNDKomiaPoika: There already is one.
21:37.37WishMasterNNDKomiaPoika: Which version are you using?
21:38.44KomiaPoikaWishMasterNND: just a sec
21:40.56KomiaPoikaWishMasterNND: 4.0.3
21:42.56WishMasterNNDKomiaPoika: In 4.2 there is a "diashow" in the screensaver settings, below "Images and Banners".
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21:43.34KomiaPoikaWishMasterNND: damn, there is no such package in kubuntu8
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21:50.27WishMasterNNDKomiaPoika: Try OpenSUSE ;)
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21:50.56WishMasterNNDBut I'm sure there is also an unstable repo for Ubuntu.
21:52.32Half-LeftAsk in #Kubuntu #ubuntu then
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21:58.16Rasithere are the neon-builds
21:58.22Rasifor ubuntu
21:58.38MrRatRasi: ask #ubuntu
21:58.55Rasiwhy should i? i just helped him spare some time :P
21:59.41MrRatRasi: sorry, misread, thought i read "are there"
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22:19.38vitalwhere can I find "macro_write_basic_cmake_version_file"? I'm trying to compile kde4-trunk, I've read the techbase article but I cant find anything there or on google
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22:29.56JwirtzHello... is there a way to set all windows to open on top of all the others at launch, I know you can set indiviual programs to be on top, but is there a global setting where they will always start out on top?
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22:46.06the_phello. i have installed amarok 2.0 and imported my collection from amarok 1.4 but the points on the songs are not imported to amarok 2.
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22:58.13AlenDoes will krecipes be ported on KDE4 that will be great
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23:22.26The_Balldoes somebody know when 4.1.96 will be available for download?
23:24.45pinotreefrom 15th
23:25.07The_Balloh, so 96 is rc1
23:25.26pinotreeyes
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23:28.49vitalcould someone please tell me where KDE4_CREATE_BASIC_CMAKE_VERSION_FILE is located? I cant find it in trunk, I see the comment "# KDE4_CREATE_BASIC_CMAKE_VERSION_FILE (function)" in KDE4Macros.cmake, kdepimlibs want it, but I cant find the 'implementation' of the macro..
23:29.52reavertmupdate kdepimlibs trunk? trunk builds fine...
23:30.27vitalreavertm: I have the latest, cant build it :/
23:31.28vitalsorry, I just noticed that I couldn't have "-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release", if I removed that from the cmake-commandline it works..
23:31.33vitalthanks a lot anyway :)
23:32.33reavertmbuilds fine here with Release.. maybe your build dir was messed up
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23:33.31YippMNi'm looking at reinstalling kdenlive and i see a couple libs that are kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.3-r1, and so on , are these goiong to be a problem , being that kde 4.1 isn't working very good?
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23:52.20liberviscoHi, I was installing desktop themes (right click on desktop > desktop settings) and once I chose and applied a theme something crashed
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23:52.32libervisconow after a reboot it's still crashed
23:52.47nikolazhello
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23:52.51liberviscowhen I do alt-f2 to show the "run command" dialog, it doesn't show
23:53.23liberviscoand I noticed that those "quick preview" things don't show either
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23:53.40liberviscothat's on 4.1.3
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23:54.01liberviscothe current "stable" release
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23:57.55liberviscomissed anything? :S
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23:58.25animeloegot something for you to look at
23:58.26animeloeCMakeFiles/smokeakonadi.dir/x_2.o: In function `x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob::doResume()':
23:58.26animeloex_2.cpp:(.text._ZN33x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob8doResumeEv[x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob::doResume()]+0x5c): undefined reference to `KJob::doResume()'
23:58.30animeloelots of errors like that
23:59.31animeloekde bindings svn as of thurs

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