| 00:00.11 | thrice` | if I downgrade boost, would any other kde* suffer ? |
| 00:00.13 | thiago_home | most of KDE doesn't use boost |
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| 00:02.28 | ScottG489 | thiago_home: you dont like compiz? |
| 00:02.45 | thiago_home | I wouldn't know |
| 00:02.48 | thiago_home | I've never used it |
| 00:02.58 | ScottG489 | Why dont you want to? |
| 00:03.11 | thiago_home | because kwin is enough for my needs |
| 00:03.18 | thiago_home | and I like its features and shortcuts |
| 00:03.45 | ScottG489 | oh, ok. |
| 00:04.06 | thrice` | thiago_home: any patch ? |
| 00:04.10 | thrice` | by chance * |
| 00:04.31 | thiago_home | not that I know of |
| 00:04.40 | thiago_home | I don't think I have boost in my system, so I wouldn't see the error |
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| 00:05.09 | Ficthe | hi |
| 00:05.16 | Ficthe | <Ficthe> I've ctrl+alt+k mapped to switch kxkb layouts in "global shortcuts" in ""kde control module" -- it works, but once I've switched to ru, I can't have the same shortcut combination to switch back. I would have thought it would overlap this.. but it doesn't, would anyone have to happen a solution for this? |
| 00:05.40 | Ficthe | ru being just an an example layout (russian, though, to be precise) |
| 00:05.55 | derek_k | thrice`: I'm not having any trouble building with 1.36.0 |
| 00:06.44 | thrice` | derek_k: I'm on 1.37, and don't really feel like downgrading + recompiling everything i've done (this is the final 4.1.96 package i've got :) ) |
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| 00:49.55 | holycow | where does kde store its trash? |
| 00:50.25 | pinotree | ~/.local/share/Trash |
| 00:50.26 | apt | i guess /.local/share/trash is still were things are supposed to be. |
| 00:50.42 | holycow | oh .local |
| 00:50.43 | holycow | thx |
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| 01:11.31 | hamster | Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type. ATI Mobility Radeon X 1600, KDE4.1, openSUSE11.1 - activating desktop effects fails with this message. How can I fix this? |
| 01:13.40 | thrice` | ok, kdepim is failing to build :( http://rafb.net/p/3ZhvCJ53.html any clue? |
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| 01:31.36 | bukharin | hello |
| 01:31.51 | bukharin | i'm having a weird annyoing problem, and i wanted some pointers to begin debugging it... |
| 01:32.09 | bukharin | see, for some reasson, my plasma erratically hogs up the cpu |
| 01:32.22 | bukharin | and the whole UI slows down to a crawl... |
| 01:32.33 | bukharin | then returns to normal after a few minutes. |
| 01:32.47 | bukharin | top reports plasma with 70% and up cpu usage... |
| 01:32.56 | bukharin | any ideas? :S |
| 01:33.25 | bukharin | i don't even know where to bgin looking into this :( |
| 01:33.28 | junkDawgie | if you log in as a different user, does it do the same? |
| 01:33.40 | bukharin | mmm |
| 01:33.44 | bukharin | good advice.. |
| 01:33.50 | bukharin | will have to check. |
| 01:33.57 | bukharin | brb :P |
| 01:34.01 | thrice` | http://rafb.net/p/lV80Iy88.html ok, can't figure it out; this is with -j1 |
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| 01:35.10 | junkDawgie | if so, rename /.kde4/config/plasmarc and plasma-appletrc to something and let it create the default values, bukharin |
| 01:35.39 | junkDawgie | if both users arer fubar, then it's more complicated... :) |
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| 02:05.05 | walter | hey folks; I have a broken entry in my kde's menu, and it's not listed in kmenuedit. Where can I look to figure out what's wrong? |
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| 02:10.50 | snowdonkey | Hi. How can I find out a window's ID? |
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| 02:11.12 | animeloe | card it? |
| 02:11.31 | snowdonkey | animeloe: I don't know what that means. |
| 02:12.21 | animeloe | oh.... |
| 02:13.13 | walter | What files does the Application Launcher use to build its menu? |
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| 02:13.46 | animeloe | I think .desktop |
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| 02:15.17 | DaSkreech | What's Eigen ? |
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| 02:16.21 | Jucato | DaSkreech: http://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Main_Page |
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| 02:17.07 | Jucato | walter: first try running the command "kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental" (or kbuildsycoca if on KDE 3) and see if the entry is still there in the menu |
| 02:18.42 | walter | Jucato: entry is still there, also tried touch ~/.kde/share/services/update_ksyscoca && kbuildsyscoca4 |
| 02:19.28 | walter | Perhaps if I explain what I did to mess this up, it will make more sense? |
| 02:19.45 | Jucato | walter: then look for the corresponding .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/ |
| 02:20.06 | Jucato | possibly |
| 02:20.18 | walter | ah, not necessary now |
| 02:20.25 | walter | i was looking exclusively in .kde, not .local |
| 02:20.58 | Jucato | changes to the menu are saved in .local (the entries themselves) and .config (the "structure"/tree of the menu) |
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| 02:22.15 | walter | seems as though wine's "wineshelllink" script isn't quite up to par with kde compatibility |
| 02:22.33 | alipio | Hi there.. Does anybody here use MSN in kopete of kde 4.2? |
| 02:22.35 | walter | but yeah, thank you very much. this has been bugging me for hours |
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| 02:23.19 | alipio | I didn't get it work with WLM Messenger... |
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| 02:24.09 | Ward1983 | anyone know a IRC channel for ktechlab? |
| 02:24.22 | Ward1983 | cant seem to find one |
| 02:24.35 | Ward1983 | (with google / on their website) |
| 02:24.38 | PhrkOnLsh | Ward1983: probably #kde |
| 02:24.53 | PhrkOnLsh | alipio: yes |
| 02:24.58 | Ward1983 | PhrkOnLsh, by that you mean here lol? |
| 02:25.03 | PhrkOnLsh | mhm |
| 02:25.48 | Jucato | #kopete |
| 02:25.51 | Ward1983 | (ktechlab is a kde prog) |
| 02:26.08 | Jucato | 3rd party program |
| 02:26.29 | Ward1983 | yes but it seemed reasonable to come here and ask if someone knows if theirs a channel for them |
| 02:26.32 | Ward1983 | for it |
| 02:27.04 | Jucato | of course you can wait for an answer. but the chances are slim |
| 02:27.21 | Ward1983 | well since all people are kde users probably some use ktechlab :) |
| 02:27.33 | alipio | PhrkOnLsh: How? When I try to connect in MSN I don't see any contact in list... weird.. |
| 02:28.05 | PhrkOnLsh | alipio: That means ou don't have any friends ;) no, I have no problem with it... are there any related errors if you run kopete from a konsole session? |
| 02:28.55 | alipio | I didn't try that yet... let me see... |
| 02:30.54 | alipio | I really don't know what happens... |
| 02:31.06 | alipio | from a terminal... I see: Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. |
| 02:31.33 | alipio | When I try to come online... it shows: Kopete::AccountManager::setOnlineStatus: category: 2 |
| 02:31.40 | alipio | Just that.. :/ |
| 02:31.46 | PhrkOnLsh | hrm |
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| 02:31.53 | PhrkOnLsh | does other clients work? pidgin? |
| 02:32.00 | alipio | amsn works |
| 02:32.14 | PhrkOnLsh | ask someone who is on your buddy listto message you via phone or such |
| 02:32.20 | PhrkOnLsh | and see if itt goes through? |
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| 02:33.18 | alipio | Ok.. my doubt was if there is a bug or something like that with kopete 4.2 and WLM... |
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| 02:34.09 | animeloe | I had a question about kdm |
| 02:34.16 | animeloe | what needs to be writeable for kdm to work properly |
| 02:34.27 | animeloe | directory wise |
| 02:34.32 | animeloe | it's a nfs ro boot |
| 02:34.42 | animeloe | so I need to know which files/directories need write access |
| 02:35.17 | PhrkOnLsh | alipio: I don't think so... as said, as of ~1 week ago I connected fine. |
| 02:35.47 | alipio | Ok... PhrkOnLsh, thanks |
| 02:35.55 | PhrkOnLsh | sry |
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| 02:44.37 | Dhraakellian | okay, I know I've found them before, but where are custom color schemes saved? |
| 02:44.50 | Dhraakellian | and Domino settings |
| 02:44.59 | Jucato | kde version? |
| 02:45.11 | Jucato | Domino settings in ~/.qt/ |
| 02:45.18 | Dhraakellian | 3.5, mainly |
| 02:45.23 | Dhraakellian | ah! thanks |
| 02:45.33 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ |
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| 02:47.49 | Dhraakellian | okay, it looks like I'd found the KDE3 color schemes already but had forgotten that I had in my search for the Domino settings |
| 02:47.53 | Dhraakellian | thanks anyway! |
| 02:49.38 | Dhraakellian | since I had gotten Domino looking fairly close to Oxygen witha tweaked version of Dark |
| 02:49.42 | Dhraakellian | -blue-deb |
| 02:49.57 | Dhraakellian | and I didn't feel like redoing it on the other computer |
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| 02:56.05 | corigo2 | While the transparent page like flipping of windows using Alt+Tab is very flashy, I find myself missing a more solidly visual ordering of the open application windows that I can see without paging through all of the open windows one by one. Frequently two windows will look very similar, e.g. two different versions of the same document, making it really hard to know/remember which one I should be selecting now |
| 02:56.32 | corigo2 | Is there some way to emulate this "older" functionality? |
| 02:56.33 | DaSkreech | corigo2: Present windows ? |
| 02:56.56 | corigo2 | DaSkreech: clarify please? |
| 02:57.09 | Jucato | corigo2: use the Box Switch effect |
| 02:57.12 | DaSkreech | that allows you to see only windows you want |
| 02:57.57 | corigo2 | These sound great.. but how? Where? What is the process to turn on/activate these options? |
| 02:59.11 | Jucato | System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> All Effects tab |
| 02:59.33 | derek_k | present windows is good. |
| 03:00.34 | corigo2 | Box Switch is already on |
| 03:00.50 | corigo2 | I don't see present windows |
| 03:01.26 | DaSkreech | What version of KDE? |
| 03:01.53 | DaSkreech | derek_k: present windows is my new KDE drug |
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| 03:02.18 | DaSkreech | corigo2: is cover switch also on? |
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| 03:02.42 | corigo2 | DaSkreech: yes |
| 03:03.00 | Jucato | You can only have 1 of these 3 enabled at one time: Box Switch, COver Switch, Flip Switch |
| 03:03.06 | corigo2 | Ok, that works. Thanks DaSkreech |
| 03:03.12 | DaSkreech | corigo2: Take it off it will override box switch |
| 03:03.20 | TouchDown | gostaria de saber se há alguma forma de colocar um icone de "mostrar area de trabalho" no linux, no painel principal. |
| 03:03.25 | TouchDown | no KDE 4.10 |
| 03:03.34 | Jucato | TouchDown: English only plese |
| 03:03.42 | Jucato | please* |
| 03:03.56 | DaSkreech | 4.10 ? |
| 03:04.31 | corigo2 | 4.1 is also mine. So what is Present Windows? |
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| 03:11.15 | DaSkreech | corigo2: It's like Expose but nicer |
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| 03:11.40 | DaSkreech | corigo2: you can filter windows by content title or window type |
| 03:12.11 | judgen | how is kde on windows coming along? |
| 03:12.35 | DaSkreech | as well as #kde-windows says |
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| 03:15.16 | corigo2 | Is it a separate item in the repositories? |
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| 03:17.35 | DaSkreech | corigo2: I think that it shipped with 4.1 |
| 03:17.47 | DaSkreech | I feel like I have been using it forever |
| 03:18.23 | corigo2 | So it shold be listed in the same place as Box Switch, Cover and Flip Switch? C |
| 03:18.32 | corigo2 | 'cause I don't see it. |
| 03:19.38 | corigo2 | (4.1.3) |
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| 03:20.53 | DaSkreech | Yes |
| 03:20.57 | DaSkreech | at the bottom |
| 03:21.01 | corigo2 | Ah, scrolling issue. Paging up actually goes up more than a page. It is there and active |
| 03:21.05 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:21.17 | DaSkreech | corigo2: Oh good ctrl+F9 |
| 03:21.23 | DaSkreech | Then type the name of what you want |
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| 03:23.56 | corigo2 | Better yet, mapped it to Windows key + Tab now I have a choice of views |
| 03:24.04 | corigo2 | Thanks again |
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| 03:24.18 | DaSkreech | corigo2: The filter is really fast and nice |
| 03:24.29 | DaSkreech | I'm severelyhooked on it |
| 03:24.40 | DaSkreech | If I want to talk to someone I just type the name |
| 03:24.47 | corigo2 | Now, is there a way to get Network Monitor to show attached IP addressed when mousing over? |
| 03:24.48 | DaSkreech | If I want a report I just type it |
| 03:25.20 | corigo2 | I really miss that feature as well |
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| 03:29.50 | Dhraakellian | khotkeys/kde3 seems to work in KDE 4.1 downstairs, but it doesn't appear to work with a very similar setup on the laptop upstairs |
| 03:30.06 | corigo2 | Also I've been told there is a "Spacer" module available for the panel so that I can see the whole date displayed and not have it cropped. I've subscribed to the DEV portion but still don't see this mystical spacer |
| 03:30.45 | Dhraakellian | wonders why this might be |
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| 03:34.50 | animeloe | nvm |
| 03:35.06 | animeloe | I figured out the problem |
| 03:35.23 | DaSkreech | animeloe: It was? |
| 03:36.07 | animeloe | no hal was having a fit |
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| 03:41.00 | TouchDown | i have a problem in KDE 4.10 i d like to put an icon or widget in my main pannel to "show the desktop" |
| 03:41.04 | TouchDown | is it possible ? |
| 03:41.06 | animeloe | also kdm doesn't seem to like being called from init |
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| 03:41.56 | DaSkreech | TouchDown: you should have a show desktop button in add widgets |
| 03:42.26 | corigo3 | Also I've been told there is a "Spacer" module available for the panel so that I can see the whole date displayed and not have it cropped. I've subscribed to the DEV portion but still don't see this mystical spacer |
| 03:42.59 | animeloe | dammit alsa is misbehaving now : |
| 03:43.01 | animeloe | :| |
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| 03:44.13 | ld50 | shouldn't strigi:/ work in dolphin? |
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| 03:45.12 | TouchDown | DaSkreech: ty |
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| 03:47.26 | Jucato | ld50: no. the kioslave wasn't ported (yet) to kde 4 afaik |
| 03:50.56 | ld50 | Jucato, do you know if nepomuk works without strigi? |
| 03:51.01 | ld50 | for example searching by tag |
| 03:51.27 | Jucato | dunno |
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| 03:53.04 | ld50 | ok, ty |
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| 04:26.39 | animeloe | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2795401 2009-01-11 21:29 ksudoku |
| 04:26.47 | animeloe | is that suppost to be suid? |
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| 04:28.46 | Rushmoom | hey guys |
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| 04:29.01 | Rushmoom | Using kde-4.1.3, is there a way to limit Nepomuks repository size? |
| 04:29.36 | NexT||eVo | hiall! |
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| 04:33.22 | Carl_ | I need a smart person to explain something to me |
| 04:35.40 | Carl_ | http://en.opensuse.org/powerpc_flash_player I just want to get this to work on fedora 10 if it really works |
| 04:36.38 | Carl_ | I get lost and confused following the directions on the link runx86 programs |
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| 04:37.11 | Carl_ | grrrrrrr sorry i thought i was on fedora |
| 04:38.15 | animeloe | to configure root stuff which binaries need suid root? |
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| 04:42.39 | TouchDown | how i set my browser firefox as default ? |
| 04:44.50 | brunoqc | TouchDown: in system settings, default application |
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| 04:50.46 | Rushmoom | JFTR, if anyone else's nepomuk repo is growing out of control: this did the trick: http://forum.kde.org/-solved-backup-dolphin-nepomuk-data-t-16695.html |
| 04:51.13 | DaSkreech | Can someone look at this make file for me? |
| 04:51.15 | DaSkreech | http://paste.ubuntu.com/103769/ |
| 04:51.52 | DaSkreech | It says no rule for make install |
| 04:52.08 | DaSkreech | which .. seems to be true. Why wouldn't it have one though ? |
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| 05:02.19 | werdnum | Hi! My Kopete doesn't seem to know that MSN exists anymore -- I'm using the nightly build, Kopete 0.60.81, KDE 4.1.86 (according to About), kde neon packages. |
| 05:02.22 | werdnum | MSN doesn't show up in the list of services when I try to add an account |
| 05:04.23 | Organism | japanese language support has become shoddy... i changed my theme and suddenly japanese filenames show up in unicode crapland and i files with japanese text display unicode crap and i can't input japanese in x11 apps, only gtk |
| 05:04.44 | Organism | don't know if it's an issue with my os or with kde |
| 05:05.03 | Organism | but all i changed were settings with kde so i figure i'd start there |
| 05:05.44 | Organism | i found a package called skim online which seems to be scim for kde, but i still have the issue of what appears to be a change in locale and font usage. |
| 05:05.57 | Organism | sound familiar to anyone? |
| 05:07.32 | drantin | skim only supports kde3 afaik, although it will work on kde4 or gnome for just changing scim settings, you might as well stick with the gtk one so you don't have to keep kdelibs-3 around (unless you do anyway for konversation or some such) |
| 05:08.02 | drantin | dunno about the unicode problems, I'm using uim just fine over here |
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| 05:08.58 | Organism | yeah. i'm actually using kde 3.5.10 or whichever is the last one in the 3.5 series |
| 05:09.05 | drantin | ah |
| 05:09.24 | drantin | hm, dunno then. I haven't used 2.5 since about last May... |
| 05:09.29 | drantin | er |
| 05:09.30 | Organism | and i'm really not looking forward to copying and pasting all my unicode stuff all over the place. |
| 05:09.30 | drantin | 3.5 |
| 05:09.41 | drantin | how is your locale doing? |
| 05:09.55 | Organism | yeah. it's confusing because it worked up until a few days ago. |
| 05:09.58 | drantin | i.e. from konsole, `locale -a` |
| 05:10.03 | Organism | i'll check |
| 05:10.21 | drantin | don't know why it would suddenly change unless you updated something |
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| 05:10.32 | Organism | i have a long list of locales |
| 05:10.47 | Organism | among them are the japanese locales. |
| 05:11.06 | drantin | and `locale` without the -a gives what? |
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| 05:11.22 | drantin | for LANG and LC_ALL specifically |
| 05:11.44 | Organism | lang says ja_JP.utf8 and LC_ALL is blank |
| 05:12.06 | Organism | y'think i could just stick something defining LC_ALL in my .profile? |
| 05:12.25 | animeloe | hmm.... |
| 05:12.33 | animeloe | kdm doesn't like to be run by init |
| 05:12.36 | animeloe | wierd |
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| 05:13.08 | drantin | well, if you have the other LC_* set to things, then LC_ALL is irrelevant |
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| 05:13.31 | drantin | but are you sure you want ja_JP.utf8? en_US.utf8 is fully capable of displaying japanese. |
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| 05:13.53 | drantin | or does LC_ALL override the others, I can't remember... |
| 05:13.55 | Organism | i had it that way until about an hour ago when i was trying to troubleshoot my situation |
| 05:14.59 | Organism | there was a short list of steps to enable japanese language support in a changes and hints log from the slackware devs and i followed that to get it working the first time... |
| 05:15.09 | drantin | I have mine set in /etc/env.d, but I'm not sure if that's specific to my distro or not |
| 05:15.10 | Organism | but it doesn't seem to be helping the second time around and i'm not sure what's changed. |
| 05:15.20 | Organism | what are you using? |
| 05:15.25 | Organism | i'll look in there and see what i have. |
| 05:15.34 | Organism | mine was in /etc/profile.d |
| 05:15.59 | drantin | a not-very-common distro, but it uses the /etc layout from gentoo for the most part |
| 05:16.08 | drantin | or at least it can |
| 05:16.17 | Organism | i don't even have /etc/env.d |
| 05:16.31 | drantin | yeah, i thought it was likely to be a distro thing |
| 05:16.49 | drantin | but it is set properly before X starts, right? |
| 05:17.06 | Organism | which part? |
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| 05:17.11 | drantin | the LANG and LC_* environment variables |
| 05:17.31 | Organism | i have something in .profile and i start scim in .kde/autostart |
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| 05:20.24 | Organism | i'm going to try restarting one more time and then i'm going to bed |
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| 05:20.30 | Organism | thanks for your help drantin |
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| 05:22.38 | Organism | still messed up |
| 05:22.47 | Organism | next step is my fonts, i guess... |
| 05:23.15 | Organism | but my locale is en_US.UTF8 again |
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| 05:45.25 | kbw | what |
| 05:45.34 | chfwiggum | hi all |
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| 05:47.07 | chfwiggum | i just enabled desktop effects in system settings on kde 4.1. all i get is a totally black screen after restarting x. where do i disable them from console? tia |
| 05:48.50 | DaSkreech | chfwiggum: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc ~/kwinrc.bkup |
| 05:48.58 | DaSkreech | then login to KDE |
| 05:49.11 | chfwiggum | DaSkreech: thx a bunch |
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| 07:00.13 | NexT||eVo | hi |
| 07:01.17 | NexT||eVo | next # startkde (Error: Cannot create directory '/tmp/kde-next' permission denied... |
| 07:01.21 | NexT||eVo | any idea? |
| 07:01.40 | NexT||eVo | may be user group |
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| 07:38.09 | P-Luc_Auclair | in 4.2 my sound cards are detected as hw:1,0 and hw:0,0, in 4.1 they were correctly detected, now phonon doesn't seem to really say anything when I plug stuff in |
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| 07:49.42 | the_p | hello. i have a question to kde 4.1.3. When i mount a usb storage device in dolphin it gets unmounted automatically after some time is this an intended behaviour or a bug? |
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| 08:19.22 | ]Kame2[ | the_p: i never saw this. maybe it's distri related. |
| 08:19.54 | the_p | <]Kame2[>: i use gentoo. |
| 08:20.06 | ]Kame2[ | ok, than it isn't the distri ^^ |
| 08:20.09 | ]Kame2[ | i use it too |
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| 08:20.39 | the_p | <]Kame2[>: do you use the overlay or the ebuilds from portage? |
| 08:21.09 | ]Kame2[ | portage for 4.1 and overlay for 4.2 (4.1 for working, 4.2 to test sometimes) |
| 08:23.05 | the_p | <]Kame2[>: which version of hal do you use? |
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| 08:24.59 | afd____ | hi guys! I'm using kde 4.2 beta from ubuntu intrepid. How can I force Dolphin to use the Detailed View all the time? I can't see an option to force this option... I remember Dolphin under Kde 3.5 had this option... |
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| 08:27.24 | ]Kame2[ | the_p: 0.5.11-r1 |
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| 08:27.52 | the_p | I'm using the same version so this can't be the reason. |
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| 08:44.53 | Elvanor | Can you choose the number of spaces a tab represents in Kate? |
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| 09:30.42 | guayaboasesino | ola |
| 09:31.14 | guayaboasesino | hola |
| 09:31.25 | guayaboasesino | hay alguien |
| 09:32.27 | annma | puzzling but harmless |
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| 09:36.29 | Jucato | annma: pusling but harmless? :) |
| 09:36.38 | annma | lol |
| 09:36.42 | annma | indeed he is harmless |
| 09:36.50 | pusling | slaps Jucato. |
| 09:36.55 | pusling | not harmless. |
| 09:37.07 | Jucato | definitely not :) |
| 09:37.15 | annma | majes a karate pass to pusling and sends him out of the channel |
| 09:37.26 | annma | harmless now!!! |
| 09:37.29 | muthu_ | is away: Gone away for now |
| 09:38.03 | pusling | is away. on the toilet |
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| 09:42.42 | annma | repairing your wounds pusling |
| 09:42.53 | pusling | yeah. |
| 09:43.03 | pusling | is back |
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| 09:45.10 | muthu_ | is back. |
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| 09:48.22 | brmassa | Gus, my K3B is failing every time i try to burn a DVD, saying "flushing the cache may take some time" |
| 09:48.54 | sunny | hi |
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| 10:08.11 | Elvanor | Can you choose the number of spaces a tab represents in Kate? |
| 10:08.57 | brmassa | Elvanor: yes. there is an option on Kate settings |
| 10:09.02 | Elvanor | where? |
| 10:09.47 | Elvanor | Ha. found at last. |
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| 10:14.15 | brmassa | Elvanor: :P |
| 10:14.39 | Elvanor | It was not on Indentation, so I was confused :) |
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| 10:32.58 | mooperd | hi, how do I switch off thread view in kmail? |
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| 10:33.19 | thiago | click the second-to-last button at the top |
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| 10:34.59 | mooperd | thiago ta |
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| 10:43.56 | nogagplz | any idea why grabbing kdelibs from svn keeps pausing on A kdelibs/kdeui/widgets/kmainwindow_p.h ? |
| 10:44.03 | nogagplz | It just sits there, endlessly |
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| 10:47.28 | annma | nogagplz: maybe your anonsvn server is slow |
| 10:48.03 | [mors] | hey mate... on windows, how do I browser different partitions with dolphin ? it only shows the root (c:) and the home folder (doc&sets\username) |
| 10:48.05 | elbar | is krdc currently broken in trunk? |
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| 10:51.34 | elbar | krdc/vnc/vnchostpreferences.h:28:31: error: ui_vncpreferences.h: No such file or directory |
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| 10:55.08 | nogagplz | annma: hmm, are others available? |
| 10:56.01 | annma | i don't know if you can choose one |
| 10:56.15 | annma | i use kde svn server myself |
| 10:56.28 | nogagplz | okay, thanks |
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| 11:14.30 | [mors] | hey mates... on windows, how do I browse different partitions with dolphin ? it only shows the root (c:) and the home folder (doc&sets\username) |
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| 11:24.16 | tictric | mooperd: look in View->Attachments |
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| 11:57.22 | tampakrap | anyone with latest trunk here? |
| 11:57.32 | annma | me |
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| 11:58.07 | doc__ | hi there |
| 11:58.11 | tampakrap | i recompiled yesterday and the panel is blue and non-trasarent again :( |
| 11:58.22 | tampakrap | is it happening to you too? |
| 11:58.44 | annma | tampakrap: I built from scratch yesterday and I am running defaults |
| 11:58.53 | annma | defaults is not transparent I believe |
| 11:59.08 | annma | with no compositing |
| 11:59.13 | tampakrap | thanks anyways |
| 11:59.16 | tampakrap | anyone else? |
| 11:59.31 | annma | so, what are your settings? |
| 11:59.54 | annma | I have a clean install and a clean setting dir but I can try your settings |
| 12:00.14 | annma | also, when was your last compile before yesterday? |
| 12:00.45 | tampakrap | previous week as soon as it hit 4.2.60 |
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| 12:03.14 | annma | so, tell me what your settings are about compositing and panel theme |
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| 12:04.24 | annma | so I can check about transparency |
| 12:05.02 | tampakrap | ok i'll give you screenshots there are too many to write :) |
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| 12:08.20 | tampakrap | annma: http://tuxicity.homelinux.org/~tampakrap/kde5.png ~ kde8.png |
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| 12:08.56 | annma | tampakrap: would all that guarantee transparency in panel? |
| 12:09.02 | Zaister | Hello I'm haveing a problem logging in today in KDE. when I start up the session, it freezes for half a minute and then I get a crash hanldler, telling me that kded4 has crashed. KDE then works mostly, but if I start Konsole, I'm not getting a prompt, only a cursor in the window. Any idea what is going wrong? |
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| 12:09.24 | tampakrap | annma: it was yesterdays without touching anything |
| 12:09.36 | annma | Zaister: what is new in today logging versus yesterday? |
| 12:09.46 | annma | tampakrap: really? |
| 12:09.56 | tampakrap | what is wrong tell me :) |
| 12:10.18 | Zaister | annma: I haven't done any updates over the weekend, but possibly after the last login on friday |
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| 12:10.26 | annma | tampakrap: all the effects you pointed have nothing to do with transparency |
| 12:11.08 | Zaister | does the system keep track of KDE logins? |
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| 12:12.40 | annma | Zaister: try a new user |
| 12:13.03 | tampakrap | oh sorry and where are the transparency options then? |
| 12:13.06 | Zaister | i did that, same result |
| 12:13.24 | tampakrap | although i do have transparency when moving windows |
| 12:13.32 | annma | tampakrap: I guess transparent panel is from theme |
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| 12:14.18 | Zaister | hm it doesn't look like I installed anythin conspicuous on friday |
| 12:14.46 | kamathln | Zaister: sometimes anything=conspicious |
| 12:14.52 | tampakrap | annma: thanks i'll search there |
| 12:15.23 | kamathln | any way i can change the theme only of the svg clock ? |
| 12:15.28 | Zaister | emul-linux packets for compat and gtklibs, xulrunner-bin, acroread and colorcvs |
| 12:15.57 | kamathln | Zaister: ow ok |
| 12:17.01 | kamathln | is that all or did it pull any extra packets ? |
| 12:17.08 | kamathln | s/packets/packages/ |
| 12:17.26 | Zaister | no that's including dependencies, got ist from gentlop -l |
| 12:18.15 | kamathln | ok |
| 12:18.15 | Zaister | another weird thing, i tried to start konsole as root with "kdesu konsole" and that produces this error: "The program 'su' could not be found.<br/>Ensure your PATH!" |
| 12:18.15 | Zaister | su on its own works, though |
| 12:18.16 | annma | if a new user also does not log then your global install is messed up Zaister |
| 12:18.16 | Zaister | it seems so |
| 12:18.16 | annma | refer to your distro to reinstall |
| 12:18.44 | kamathln | Zaister: what exactly does the crash handlers say ? |
| 12:19.03 | Zaister | wait a sec, I'll make a screenshot |
| 12:19.05 | Zaister | brbv |
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| 12:19.58 | kamathln | Zaister: I am a newbie to KDE too .. just helping you to ask the right questions :-P |
| 12:20.16 | kamathln | or ask questions the right way . whatever. |
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| 12:24.19 | Zaister | ok here's the screenshot: http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/zaister/crash.png |
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| 12:24.39 | annma | then click on Show details Zaister |
| 12:24.48 | annma | then copy the output to a pastebin |
| 12:24.49 | Zaister | there's no details |
| 12:24.54 | annma | pastebin.ca for ex |
| 12:24.57 | annma | no? |
| 12:25.11 | annma | you have no debug packages probably |
| 12:25.12 | Zaister | I know, but there is no trace info |
| 12:25.21 | annma | so this is useless |
| 12:25.26 | Zaister | I compiled with -gfomit-frame-pointer |
| 12:25.43 | annma | you need to pass debugfull to cmake |
| 12:26.16 | Zaister | hm |
| 12:26.17 | annma | -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=debugfull |
| 12:26.30 | Zaister | that would take a day to recompile now I guess |
| 12:27.01 | annma | well ask your distro why you have those problems |
| 12:27.14 | Zaister | ok |
| 12:27.36 | Zaister | does Konsole depend on this kded4 somehow? |
| 12:27.45 | Zaister | or is that maybe even unrelated |
| 12:28.04 | annma | evrything depends on kded4 I think |
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| 12:29.37 | Zaister | hm Konsole still worked when I first logged in today, but somehow during the session it went away somehow |
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| 12:31.19 | annma | if it doe snot work for a new user as well then it's not a setting |
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| 12:32.43 | Zaister | yep |
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| 12:38.54 | Mahdi | hi,does anybody here knows if the knetworkmanagaer problem with pptp vpn is solved in kde 4.2 or not? |
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| 12:39.46 | jpereira | somebody known about the same tool gconf for using by kde? |
| 12:39.55 | thiago | KDE doesn't use gconf |
| 12:40.21 | jpereira | ok, i ask about the like tool gconf using by kde |
| 12:40.33 | thiago | there's no tool like it |
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| 12:41.06 | jpereira | thiago thanks |
| 12:41.26 | thiago | but if you described what you wanted to do... |
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| 12:42.30 | reavertm | jpereira: text editor :) |
| 12:43.15 | reavertm | pretty much similar user-friendly wise and feature-wise |
| 12:43.27 | jpereira | thought that exist tool like gconf in kde, i want for handler configuration in kde app... something like gconf. |
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| 12:44.37 | thiago | there isn't |
| 12:44.40 | reavertm | jpereira: you know - systemsettings is for it (clicking your way through).. if you're talking about command line interface to config files - then no |
| 12:44.51 | thiago | just use your text editor |
| 12:44.52 | annma | reavertm: ah you're thee |
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| 12:45.00 | annma | reavertm: about Kate Settings menu |
| 12:45.10 | reavertm | woot? |
| 12:45.12 | annma | reavertm: can you point the devels when it started happening? |
| 12:45.21 | annma | a bug report you did I think |
| 12:45.35 | annma | ah no |
| 12:45.39 | annma | it's not you maybe |
| 12:45.41 | reavertm | hmm, I don't think so it's my bug report |
| 12:45.52 | annma | another Maciej |
| 12:45.56 | thiago | jpereira: but, again, you haven't said what you want to do |
| 12:46.03 | reavertm | what about kate settings menu - I like it the way it is now |
| 12:46.04 | annma | second time I mixed you, sorry |
| 12:46.10 | annma | now? |
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| 12:46.18 | reavertm | feels mixed |
| 12:46.19 | annma | you mean, breaking all KDE conventions? |
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| 12:46.37 | annma | would you know when it happened? |
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| 12:47.39 | jpereira | thiago when i make the app in GNOME, i using the GCONF for handler my config settings, now i need make the other app using kde, and i thought that exist similar tool of gconf in KDE. only this |
| 12:47.52 | reavertm | annma: not my bug report, can't help, sorry |
| 12:48.06 | thiago | jpereira: again, you're not saying what you want to do |
| 12:48.19 | thiago | jpereira: do you need to change a configuration setting for your app? |
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| 12:48.48 | reavertm | jpereira: gconf may be thought as workaround for lack of configuration dialogs in gnome - that's not an option in kde :P |
| 12:49.11 | jpereira | thanks reavertm |
| 12:49.30 | reavertm | as a programmer, you can get to kde config files via kconfig interface of sth |
| 12:49.42 | Mahdi | how can i read details of knetworkmanager for kde 4.2 to know the pptp problem is solved or not? |
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| 12:49.43 | pinotree | kreadconfig and kwriteconfig |
| 12:49.47 | reavertm | (this refers to desktop and apps as well |
| 12:50.06 | annma | reavertm: it's not becaus eit is not YOUR bug report that you cannot help, no??? |
| 12:51.06 | reavertm | annma: no, i cannot help because I haven't seen regression in kate (I use kwrite), so I'm unable to help - please don't throw too much ideology :) |
| 12:51.18 | annma | reavertm: you said you like the kate menu |
| 12:51.31 | annma | <reavertm> what about kate settings menu - I like it the way it is now |
| 12:51.46 | annma | what do you mean |
| 12:51.50 | jpereira | reavertm: so, the kconfig is similar to gconf |
| 12:52.06 | annma | tampakrap: ping |
| 12:52.10 | reavertm | maybe I haven't seen the most recent one - kate always seems a bit overloaded in that manner, but I liked it |
| 12:52.10 | pinotree | jpereira: no |
| 12:52.25 | reavertm | I'll see what's going on with kate later this day |
| 12:52.29 | annma | reavertm: then stop commenting on everything I say if you don't precise it |
| 12:52.36 | annma | or if you don't understand it |
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| 12:53.19 | annma | tampakrap: I asked around in #plasma channel and the panel I have is translucent, some call it transparent |
| 12:53.32 | annma | tampakrap: so effects indeed set the panel translucent |
| 12:53.36 | reavertm | annma: let's get it straight - you asked me about some bug - I answered it's not my bug, since then - any my commet anout this bug is irrelevant, so please stop blaming me for dsitracting you :P |
| 12:53.39 | annma | and it works for me in trunk |
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| 12:54.21 | annma | you're not helping anyone reavertm by being so arogant |
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| 12:55.11 | reavertm | ooh, please - where I was so arrogant? nm, EOT |
| 12:55.38 | annma | EOT is arrogant |
| 12:55.58 | jpereira | i agree annma, samething to thiago... stupid person that thing is a star |
| 12:56.04 | jpereira | see ya everyone |
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| 12:56.12 | reavertm | no, EOT is sign of not not willing to spam channel with irrelevant comments |
| 12:56.37 | annma | sure |
| 12:57.10 | vital | annma, if you think he is a troll, dont feed him then. |
| 12:57.12 | reavertm | yeah, I'm all well known on a worlds for my star-like attitude... |
| 12:57.27 | annma | tampakrap: in fact my panel is black without effects |
| 12:58.01 | reavertm | vital: WTF? care to elaborate (in private channel)? |
| 12:58.34 | annma | tampakrap: my panel without effects http://imagebin.ca/view/WXMrJMq3.html |
| 12:58.37 | pinotree | can you both please calm down and bring your personal blaming in a private channel? |
| 12:58.57 | annma | tampakrap: my panel with effects http://imagebin.ca/view/KtBSurEU.html |
| 12:59.05 | tampakrap | deleting plasma configs brought transparency back to panel |
| 12:59.09 | annma | tampakrap: both with yesterday fresh install on new config |
| 12:59.11 | annma | oh |
| 12:59.14 | annma | OK |
| 12:59.17 | reavertm | why does anyone thinks there are any personal blamings? it's just mutual misunderstanding :P |
| 12:59.41 | annma | tampakrap: for me transparency is invisible |
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| 13:00.05 | annma | so I thought my panel was not trasparent with effects |
| 13:00.17 | annma | while it is said it is transparent |
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| 13:04.18 | jwendell | is this channel logged? |
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| 13:05.12 | ronino | jwendell: yes, to /dev/null |
| 13:05.14 | ronino | hi to all |
| 13:05.24 | jwendell | great |
| 13:05.36 | pinotree | (why?) |
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| 13:06.16 | reavertm | jwendell: you probably can't badmouth your emoployer without consequences ;) |
| 13:06.25 | lostson | lol |
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| 13:08.21 | tampakrap | annma: it's definitely a bug, i'll try to reproduce, thanks |
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| 13:26.42 | downhill_ | aseigo; ping :) are you up? |
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| 13:28.25 | scientes | how do i make programs load in the gtk theme mode? |
| 13:28.26 | jmut | hi. is it appropriate here to ask konsole specific questions? |
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| 13:28.58 | scientes | jmut, depends |
| 13:29.06 | scientes | so ask |
| 13:29.12 | jmut | :) |
| 13:29.21 | downhill_ | scientes; if you load up System Settings > click Appearance then go down to the GTK settings, you can disable it from changing the theme to Qt-like theming :) |
| 13:29.37 | scientes | downhill_, actually im in gtk |
| 13:29.40 | scientes | i mean gnome |
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| 13:29.53 | scientes | o wait you guessed right |
| 13:29.53 | downhill_ | oooh and you want KDE apps to look like Gnome apps? |
| 13:29.54 | jmut | well I am using konsole profiles. thing is I'd like some commands executed on different tabs when profile loaded. like tail -f something or the like. |
| 13:30.33 | jmut | so if anyone have a clue. |
| 13:31.14 | scientes | try man konsole |
| 13:31.26 | scientes | i ran into bugs trying to so that with gnome-terminal |
| 13:32.00 | reavertm | btw, I have noticed different issue with trunk and clean account (plasma panel related) |
| 13:32.20 | scientes | downhill_, ok that for for in kde how can i do that in gnome? |
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| 13:32.35 | scientes | downhill_, whats the settings program |
| 13:32.36 | downhill_ | do what? make them look like Gnome apps? |
| 13:32.40 | scientes | yeah |
| 13:32.51 | downhill_ | ah I lost the link... hang on |
| 13:33.02 | lostson | use the Clearlooks widget style |
| 13:33.11 | downhill_ | no... |
| 13:33.41 | downhill_ | http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/qtgtk/main.html I think that's it... |
| 13:34.00 | downhill_ | maybe... looking still :S |
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| 13:35.01 | scientes | not that |
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| 13:35.18 | downhill_ | that's how you make KDE apps look like Gnome apps. |
| 13:35.33 | downhill_ | there's a library to change their appearances. |
| 13:35.36 | scientes | thats for developeers |
| 13:35.48 | scientes | can i set it system wide to force the gtk theming |
| 13:35.50 | downhill_ | yeah, I can't find the download link for the life of me |
| 13:36.10 | reavertm | try - panel -> panel settings and try to play hard with changing panel height - sometimes I see a glitch that ~80% od desktop is covered by black always-on-top surface - only restarting kde helps |
| 13:36.10 | Jucato | at the moment, the only way to make Qt/KDE apps look like GTK/GNOME apps is to use a style that is common to both |
| 13:36.10 | scientes | otherwise i need a fitting qt theme |
| 13:36.10 | scientes | and a way to apply it |
| 13:36.17 | Half-Left | downhill_: There is a gtk Oxygen theme, get that install gtk-qt4 |
| 13:36.28 | scientes | but apps witl do the fake gtk thing |
| 13:36.36 | scientes | where it actually reads the gtk theme |
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| 13:36.48 | downhill_ | find qt-gtk and you're good |
| 13:36.49 | scientes | and looks sort of like gtk, but its obviously qt |
| 13:36.57 | scientes | but some apps dont use it |
| 13:36.59 | downhill_ | Half-Left; he means the inverse. |
| 13:37.00 | scientes | i want all to use it |
| 13:37.26 | scientes | there is just no dark them e for kde ive found that fits |
| 13:37.34 | scientes | with bark background and lite text |
| 13:37.38 | Half-Left | Well just install the Oxygen gtk theme then |
| 13:37.53 | downhill_ | I can't help those who don't want to help themselves. You're on your own. |
| 13:38.12 | scientes | hmm |
| 13:39.41 | scientes | i see gtk-qt-engine but not qt-gtk |
| 13:39.48 | downhill_ | what I don't understand is that the first hit on Google used to be straight to the developer's page, complete with source code and all. |
| 13:39.52 | downhill_ | it's around. |
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| 13:40.14 | scientes | i know i have it installed cause apps use it |
| 13:40.18 | scientes | but its just inconsistant |
| 13:40.28 | Half-Left | scientes: I've already said what you need to do or use the cleanlooks Qt4 theme that fits with clearlooks |
| 13:40.45 | scientes | but i dont like clearlooks |
| 13:40.55 | Half-Left | Thats not our problem |
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| 13:41.06 | Half-Left | Get Oxygen gtk theme then |
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| 13:41.16 | downhill_ | gtk-qt is inconsistent, too. |
| 13:41.18 | marco__ | why can't i start kde 4.2 apps if i am root? |
| 13:41.25 | downhill_ | the fact is: they aren't the same toolkits |
| 13:41.26 | scientes | but its better |
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| 13:41.41 | scientes | obviously |
| 13:41.42 | Half-Left | Put it in ~/.themes and select it in GTK apperance in the system settings |
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| 13:41.51 | Half-Left | It's that simple |
| 13:41.56 | scientes | but the blinding white makes me shy away from excellent programs |
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| 13:42.10 | scientes | oh ok |
| 13:42.14 | downhill_ | anybody here compile plasma from source today? |
| 13:42.16 | scientes | ill log in kde and do that then |
| 13:42.24 | kde4 | are you around downhill_? |
| 13:42.30 | downhill_ | hiya kde4 :D |
| 13:42.42 | kde4 | how are you? |
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| 13:42.55 | downhill_ | did you get your problem from the other day worked out? |
| 13:43.00 | downhill_ | good, thanks. how are you? |
| 13:43.17 | annma | downhill_: I did compile plasma today |
| 13:43.25 | kde4 | very happy talking to you from my kde4 :) |
| 13:43.31 | downhill_ | annma; which distro are you running? |
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| 13:43.44 | downhill_ | kde4; most excellent :D |
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| 13:44.00 | annma | downhill_: if I compiled from source then I run the compiled version |
| 13:44.04 | annma | no distro involved |
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| 13:44.11 | downhill_ | you compiled Qt and everything? |
| 13:44.17 | annma | yes |
| 13:44.23 | annma | qt-copy |
| 13:44.37 | downhill_ | oh snap. ok. then it's definitely my distro's fault. |
| 13:44.42 | downhill_ | thanks :) |
| 13:44.42 | kde4 | downhill_ I really wanted to thank you, because it was your pointer about the notifications that got me in the right direction |
| 13:44.43 | animeloe | downhill_: I compiled everything and I'm having issues with kdm |
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| 13:44.55 | annma | animeloe: what issues? |
| 13:45.01 | downhill_ | kde4; oooh don't worry about it. not at all :D |
| 13:45.02 | animeloe | annma: is there suppost to be any suid root binaries installed? |
| 13:45.08 | animeloe | kdm doesn't start from init |
| 13:45.18 | animeloe | or more specificly it freezes |
| 13:45.19 | annma | it's not a compile problem animeloe |
| 13:45.24 | downhill_ | kde4; glad it's working ^_^ enjoy! |
| 13:45.37 | kde4 | you bet I am |
| 13:45.45 | animeloe | the root filesystem is a read-only nfs |
| 13:45.59 | animeloe | var etc opt and usr are all rw |
| 13:46.06 | animeloe | can't figure out why it's not working |
| 13:46.08 | kde4 | actually the problem was that I had to change some other directories permissions |
| 13:46.23 | kde4 | after I did an chown -R everything was working |
| 13:46.28 | downhill_ | oh nice. |
| 13:46.30 | kde4 | :D |
| 13:46.49 | downhill_ | I gotta deal with this now: /home/kde4/kde4/KDE/kdebase/workspace/build/kcontrol/access/../../../kcontrol/access/kaccess.h:15:30: error: Phonon/MediaObject: No such file or directory |
| 13:47.16 | downhill_ | tried using make -I/usr/include/KDE/Phonon, but no luck :| |
| 13:48.02 | animeloe | annma: are any binaries suppost to be suid root? |
| 13:48.44 | animeloe | like kdm and ksudo? |
| 13:49.03 | kde4 | downhill_: question, ain't you using the sources downloaded from svn? |
| 13:49.03 | downhill_ | annma; I'm just installing trunk to a spare directory in / so I can xinit to start it manually and still keep a working copy that'll load up by default ;) |
| 13:49.13 | downhill_ | kde4; yeah, trunk. why? |
| 13:49.35 | freeedrich| | animeloe: no, neither of those two |
| 13:50.02 | annma | downhill_: we all install KDE in a custom dir |
| 13:50.16 | kde4 | downhill_: because with the stuff from trunk I didn't need to install phonon separately, I just did a cmakekde and got stuff done |
| 13:50.46 | downhill_ | k, think I'm just gonna use trunk's qt-copy then. |
| 13:51.43 | animeloe | is the fact that root is ro make any difference? |
| 13:51.50 | pinotree | you must use phonon from trunk, not from qt |
| 13:53.09 | kde4 | let me check my phonon |
| 13:53.11 | annma | downhill_: use qt-copy, apply patches and follow the configure line in the README.qt-copy |
| 13:53.17 | annma | you'll have the best then |
| 13:53.25 | downhill_ | alrighty, thanks :D |
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| 13:55.48 | dfaure | anyone knows what might make the "keyboard layout" kcm empty? no layouts to choose from, no options in the Advanced tab... iirc this comes from some x.org files? |
| 13:56.06 | thiago | yes, xkb stuff |
| 13:56.18 | dfaure | any idea what I could check for, more precisely? |
| 13:56.20 | thiago | libxklavier maybe |
| 13:56.56 | animeloe | freeedrich|: so you got any suggestions? |
| 13:57.11 | animeloe | I'd like the root to be ro since it's a shared tree |
| 13:58.05 | animeloe | kdm starts fine when init finishes and your in a bash shell |
| 13:58.23 | animeloe | but not when it's called from init |
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| 14:02.53 | kde4 | any luck with that downhill? |
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| 14:04.46 | downhill_ | kde4; just got back to my desk :p |
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| 14:11.14 | downhill_ | annma; um, shouldn't I remove the -no-phonon option? |
| 14:11.27 | annma | no |
| 14:11.38 | annma | we use phonon from kdesupport |
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| 14:11.53 | annma | you build qt-copy as indicated then kdesupport then kdelibs |
| 14:11.56 | downhill_ | oh yeah, that's right. it's 4.2 instead of 4.1 |
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| 14:12.49 | thiago | you can have both |
| 14:13.02 | thiago | and the Qt 4.5 version is now as new as the one in kdesupport |
| 14:13.04 | thiago | and compatible |
| 14:13.18 | jvm | hi. i wonder why kde4 wasnt built from the start on fuse instead of kio_slaves? |
| 14:13.21 | downhill_ | it's quite alright |
| 14:13.30 | thiago | jvm: because kde4 was built from kde3 |
| 14:13.33 | thiago | which was built from kde2 |
| 14:13.38 | thiago | which was built when fuse didn't exist |
| 14:13.56 | thiago | what's more, fuse *still* doesn't exist on FreeBSD, Solaris, MacOS X and Windows. |
| 14:14.39 | thiago | moreover, KIO works on a push model (ioslave pushes data to the application when downloading, application pushes data to ioslave when uploading) |
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| 14:15.07 | thiago | fuse works on POSIX primitives, (read, write, seek, etc.) which are ill-suited for network accesses |
| 14:15.16 | thiago | so, in all, KIO is a superior solution to fuse |
| 14:15.36 | downhill_ | and it starts with a K *ducks* |
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| 14:16.49 | jvm | thiago, wouldnt it ve been smarter to add a non-posix way to access fuse filesystems, and improve fuse? |
| 14:17.06 | jvm | it wouldve been a more general approach. |
| 14:17.06 | thiago | no |
| 14:17.13 | thiago | KIO was already there and worked |
| 14:17.14 | downhill_ | jvm; you must of missed it, KIO has been around a long time now. |
| 14:17.23 | jvm | i didnt miss it. |
| 14:17.26 | thiago | there was no reason to change that |
| 14:17.54 | thiago | how do you suppose we do when fuse isn't available on the platform? |
| 14:18.11 | jvm | but kio always had the disadvantage of being only usable with kde applications. (i know, theres a fuse driver to interface kio_slaves.) |
| 14:18.36 | jvm | as far as i know, kio_slaves wasnt available on any platform from the start, either. you always ve to port things. |
| 14:19.04 | thiago | no, it's available from any application |
| 14:19.04 | thiago | no one wants to use them but KDE |
| 14:19.05 | thiago | but that's not our fault. It's the fault of those other applications. |
| 14:19.05 | downhill_ | so you're a fuse fanboy... |
| 14:19.11 | jvm | no. |
| 14:19.24 | thiago | jvm: ioslaves are available on any platform where KDE is available |
| 14:19.34 | thiago | they are fully cross-platform code |
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| 14:19.56 | thiago | at most, they link to some libraries (like libsmbclient) which may not have been ported to some of the platforms, but most are |
| 14:20.05 | thiago | so ioslaves are available in many more platforms than fuse |
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| 14:20.52 | P4o3n1x | hi, im running kde 4.10 and i have strange pixels on both sides of the login screen. i suspect the problem in the strange resolution the eeepc has (1024x600). does anyone have an idea how to fix this? |
| 14:20.59 | thiago | 4.10 doesn't exist |
| 14:21.00 | jvm | but ioslaves are a kde centered approach, and dont fit into my vision of a smart built operating system ;) |
| 14:21.02 | thiago | we're about to release 4.2 |
| 14:21.19 | dfaure | thiago: thanks, that kcm works much better now! |
| 14:21.28 | thiago | dfaure: libxklavier? |
| 14:22.35 | P4o3n1x | sry i mean the 4.1.3 |
| 14:22.59 | dfaure | thiago: yep. installed the -dev, recompiled the kcm, and voila. |
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| 14:23.55 | Mirrakor | A Kmail question: if a message is marked as important, will is still be automaticly deleted after X days? |
| 14:24.09 | thiago | yes |
| 14:24.22 | freeedrich| | Hum? Since when does kmail delete mails? |
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| 14:24.38 | dfaure | thiago: was that a reply to Mirrakor? it's definitely wrong |
| 14:24.49 | dfaure | I implemented expiry so that important messages are NOT expired |
| 14:24.53 | dfaure | Mirrakor: no. |
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| 14:25.15 | freeedrich| | dfaure: when do they expire? |
| 14:25.18 | dfaure | never |
| 14:25.20 | freeedrich| | Is that some default setting? |
| 14:25.21 | Mirrakor | dfaure: in both kmail3 and kmail4? |
| 14:25.27 | thiago | dfaure: it's nowhere in the UI |
| 14:25.35 | dfaure | thiago: it's not configurable |
| 14:25.47 | thiago | dfaure: it could say something at the bottom of the expiry dialog |
| 14:25.48 | dfaure | Mirrakor: in kmail3 for sure, in kmail4 I assume so, I doubt someoen changed that |
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| 14:26.15 | downhill_ | kde4; mind if I PM you? |
| 14:26.17 | Mirrakor | maybe it's worth adding a checkbox in the expire settings, "keep marked messages" or something like that, but it's a good default imho :) |
| 14:27.37 | kde4 | go ahead |
| 14:27.38 | thiago | Mirrakor: that's also the perfect example of overconfigurability |
| 14:27.47 | thiago | if you want to configure that, an expiry script is the best |
| 14:27.50 | Mirrakor | is German :D |
| 14:27.52 | thiago | but KMail doesn't support it yet |
| 14:28.13 | dfaure | I just unmark as important once I want them to go away... |
| 14:28.17 | Mirrakor | we like everything to be overconfigurable even though we don't use it (BUT we could! just in case :D ) |
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| 14:43.25 | animeloe | still wonders why kdm won't work from init |
| 14:43.31 | malik_ | hi guys, i got a problem with the QuickAccess, when I try to open a folder using QuickAccess it runs Amarok, instead |
| 14:43.40 | malik_ | is it really a bug??? |
| 14:44.29 | freeedrich| | malik_: QuickAccess is no KDE program. |
| 14:44.39 | freeedrich| | Please contribute the original author for help. |
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| 14:44.49 | freeedrich| | Ahm. Contact him. |
| 14:44.50 | malik_ | it is a widget |
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| 14:45.18 | freeedrich| | Yeah, but in no way related to KDE/this channel, besides the fact it uses kde technologies. |
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| 14:45.55 | malik_ | so that I use it to open my home folders easly |
| 14:46.32 | malik_ | easily |
| 14:47.06 | malik_ | but instead of open the folder it runs amaok |
| 14:47.10 | malik_ | amarok |
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| 15:07.48 | sxe | hey ho .. i'm using the autohide feature (plasma pannel). it seems not to work good with the window effekt "blur". it draws a collored box before and after hiding on the desktop .. is this a known bug? |
| 15:08.12 | sxe | i'm using kde4 svn on archlinux |
| 15:09.11 | annma | hmm how do you trigger it? it does it all the time? |
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| 15:09.45 | sxe | and i use the latest nvidia driver.. yes .. it alwas happens |
| 15:10.03 | annma | I have latest KDE trunk and Intel driver and I see nothing |
| 15:10.30 | annma | do you have other effects or just blur? |
| 15:10.31 | sxe | i will try to make a screenshot |
| 15:10.34 | sxe | one moment please |
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| 15:14.59 | sxe | http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto1qt8.png |
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| 15:15.02 | sxe | here it is .. |
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| 15:15.37 | sxe | but its shown only for a few miliseconds |
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| 15:15.46 | sxe | after hidein the pannel |
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| 15:16.41 | kohwj | i'm running kopete 0.12.7, and it's HTTP method for windows live/ (msn)doesn't work behind the firewall in school. |
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| 15:18.10 | Half-Left | kohwj: Then fix your firewall :p |
| 15:18.10 | sxe | annew: http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmfoto1qt8.png |
| 15:18.17 | sxe | it lokks like this .. |
| 15:18.26 | kohwj | Half-Left: it's ok, as amsn and pidgin works |
| 15:18.46 | kohwj | Half-Left: is this worthy of a bug report? |
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| 15:19.11 | Half-Left | Well, it could be a case of it just not connecting, what KDE version? |
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| 15:22.00 | annma | sxe: nothing of the sort here |
| 15:22.12 | annma | seems a video driver bug |
| 15:22.45 | sxe | hm .. like so often .. thx nvidia :) |
| 15:23.00 | Half-Left | kohwj: Also it's somewhat of a known issue that Microsoft maybe blocking some clients |
| 15:23.11 | kohwj | Half-Left: whoa. |
| 15:23.25 | kohwj | Half-Left: any way to spoof it? |
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| 15:23.44 | kohwj | Half-Left: works fine without using the HTTP method though. |
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| 15:24.20 | Half-Left | kohwj: I dont have issues myself, maybe it's because kopete using libmsn now which is newer |
| 15:24.51 | kohwj | Half-Left: which version of libmsn are you on? |
| 15:24.57 | Half-Left | svn |
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| 15:25.13 | Half-Left | which you need for 4.2 |
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| 15:25.51 | luke-jr | hey, what's up w/ RC1? |
| 15:26.08 | annma | how come, what's up? |
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| 15:26.18 | thiago | it's looking up |
| 15:26.30 | kohwj | Half-Left: oh, i'm still at 3.5.9. will switch to kde4 only when i get customised keyboard shortcuts to applications |
| 15:26.43 | kohwj | Half-Left: i'm used to control-` to open a terminal |
| 15:27.11 | Half-Left | No idea then |
| 15:27.27 | Half-Left | Maybe it is being blocked |
| 15:27.29 | thiago | kohwj: my calculator button opens kcalc |
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| 15:28.02 | kohwj | thiago: did you set it yourself? |
| 15:28.14 | thiago | yes |
| 15:28.22 | luke-jr | it's planned to be released today.. |
| 15:28.34 | Half-Left | luke-jr: 13th |
| 15:30.12 | luke-jr | aww |
| 15:30.27 | pinotree | 15 |
| 15:30.37 | pinotree | tomorrow there's kde 4.1.4 |
| 15:30.54 | luke-jr | wha? so that's why 4.1.4's install is failing? |
| 15:31.02 | pinotree | ? |
| 15:31.03 | animeloe | I think I figured out why I'm having issues with kdm |
| 15:31.08 | animeloe | it's a video card problem |
| 15:31.16 | animeloe | kicks nvidia driver |
| 15:31.41 | luke-jr | >>> Failed to emerge kde-base/kdelibs-4.1.4, Log file: |
| 15:32.04 | annma | ask your distro about such things please |
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| 15:32.16 | annma | officially KDE 4.1.4 is not out yet |
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| 15:38.04 | kohwj | thiago: and you're on kde 4.1? |
| 15:38.46 | thiago | no |
| 15:38.49 | thiago | 4.2/4.3 |
| 15:40.03 | cb400f | kohwj: then you can switch to 4.1.4 or 4.2 :-) |
| 15:40.11 | cb400f | (within a few weeks) |
| 15:40.20 | cb400f | .. or 4.1.3 if you use openSUSE |
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| 15:40.49 | Murray_B | Hi! |
| 15:41.23 | kohwj | thiago: ah icic. |
| 15:42.16 | Murray_B | What is the difference between kdebase, kdebase-runtime and kdebase-workspace and what do I need for what? |
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| 15:43.12 | annma | for the desktop you need everything |
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| 15:43.51 | annma | if you don't want the desktop itself you don't build workspace and maybe apps |
| 15:45.36 | Murray_B | Okay, thanks, that is workspace, isn't it? And what is in kdebase what is not in kdebase-runtime? Programs like konqueror, dolphin, kwrite? |
| 15:46.11 | downhill_ | Murray_B; kdebase-apps = dolphin, etc. runtime is like wallpapers, etc. |
| 15:46.27 | downhill_ | you need runtime and workspace to be able to use plasma, et al. |
| 15:46.34 | Murray_B | Okay, thank, I will install everything :-) |
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| 15:46.46 | downhill_ | ;) np |
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| 15:53.07 | jpereira | hey, i can move the icons of Desktop using some API? |
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| 15:55.41 | intero | hello |
| 15:55.46 | Half-Left | jpereira: KDE4? as in #plasma |
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| 15:55.50 | Half-Left | ask* |
| 15:56.00 | Pconfig | hm strange, kopete says i'm online but doesn't show any online contacts, i'm pretty sure there are people online :P |
| 15:56.07 | Pconfig | (MSN) |
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| 15:57.12 | Pconfig | restarting kopete doesn't help |
| 15:57.24 | Half-Left | Same here, what version? |
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| 15:57.39 | Pconfig | sec |
| 15:58.09 | Pconfig | kopete just crashed when i deleted my account |
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| 15:58.09 | clou | does anyone use opensuse? |
| 15:58.16 | smurfslover | yes |
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| 15:58.44 | clou | can i install the kde3 dolphin on opensuse 11.1 kde3? |
| 15:58.50 | Pconfig | Half-left 4.1.85 from kubuntu-experimental |
| 15:59.13 | smurfslover | clou: #suse is the right channel to ask that :) |
| 15:59.27 | Half-Left | Pconfig: Mind is 4.1.96, but I can't confirm is anyone is really online so |
| 15:59.37 | clou | ok :) another question |
| 15:59.58 | clou | how can i disable in kde3 that konqueror opens images or ducuments with the intern watcher? |
| 16:00.13 | Pconfig | now kopete really is screwed |
| 16:00.15 | clou | i want that pdfs are opened with kdpdf, images with gwenview etc... |
| 16:00.52 | Half-Left | Pconfig: I guess that why it's called experiamental :) |
| 16:01.16 | Pconfig | yes ofcourse, but i can't seem to get it right again |
| 16:01.46 | clou | so i want to disable the intern viewer of konqueror |
| 16:01.55 | Half-Left | Need to ask #Kubuntu then |
| 16:02.35 | downhill_ | clou; you need to manually change your filetype associations |
| 16:02.42 | Pconfig | Half-left, can you reproduce to following? Show offline contacts (show your whole list), then delete your account in the settings menu, then press ok, now kopete crashes for me |
| 16:02.48 | downhill_ | clou; you can do that by going into system settings and finding it there ;) |
| 16:03.08 | Half-Left | Pconfig: I'm not running beta so it's pointless |
| 16:03.14 | smurfslover | clou: not sure but i think you have to set up the desired program for every extension you want to open in another program |
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| 16:03.36 | Pconfig | Half-Left, ok let me test the trunk version :) |
| 16:04.03 | clou | i set kpdf for pdfs but konqueror still opens them |
| 16:04.05 | Half-Left | Pconfig: I'm using RC and not Kubuntu so it's not a good way to reproduce it |
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| 16:06.16 | clou | ah i found the option in konqueror for diabling the intern viewer |
| 16:06.35 | smurfslover | clou: share it i can't find it myself |
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| 16:06.55 | clou | but i have to set for each file ending myself :( |
| 16:07.02 | clou | konqueror settings |
| 16:07.11 | clou | ähm i must translate... :) |
| 16:07.19 | smurfslover | are you can set it up in the properties screen of a file |
| 16:07.32 | smurfslover | there's a little toolbox next to the file type |
| 16:07.54 | damada | hi, sorry if this is a stupid question: how can I use an existing KDE4 profile as a "template" for a user without .kde4 and also new users? As it seems /etc/skel is not read for an existing user so I can not simpy put .kde4 into /etc/skel and change the owner to root.root |
| 16:09.01 | clou | found it |
| 16:09.06 | clou | thanks :) |
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| 16:11.03 | Murray_B | bye |
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| 16:14.01 | clou | do you recommand usind kde 3 dolphin? |
| 16:14.07 | thiago | no |
| 16:14.10 | thiago | use KDE 4's dolphin |
| 16:14.16 | luke-jr | why would anyone use KDE 3? :o |
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| 16:14.44 | clou | luke-jr: it runs better ;) |
| 16:14.53 | clou | at least with nvidia cards :P |
| 16:15.02 | luke-jr | clou: KDE 4 runs just as well if you turn off Desktop Effects |
| 16:15.08 | clou | also on kde3 is the kde4 dolphin better? |
| 16:15.57 | clou | luke-jr: unfortionally not in my case... i like kde4, but the performacne is poor on my machine |
| 16:16.19 | clou | geforce 8400gs with 180.22 driver |
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| 16:16.47 | thiago | clou: works just fine for me (with 177.82) |
| 16:17.02 | thiago | 180.x worked better, but made my laptop crash too often |
| 16:19.01 | clou | the nvidia guys have to work...on ati and older nvidia cards it runs good |
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| 16:30.55 | TRD | hello everyone |
| 16:31.05 | TRD | how i can open rar file using ark ? |
| 16:31.25 | TRD | (i use kde4) |
| 16:31.29 | KRF | TRD, installed unrar? |
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| 16:32.01 | TRD | KRF: okay.. i see now |
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| 16:36.54 | student022 | Hi! I have installed Ubuntu8.04 on server B and run the gnome desktop on B, accessing it with nxclient from A. When I open a gnome-terminal from within the desktop on B, I get an error "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal". How to avoid this? |
| 16:36.55 | student022 | I found reports on /etc/fstab or udev errors that prevent the /dev/pts directory from having the right settings. But /dev/pts/0 exits, so its probably something else. |
| 16:36.55 | student022 | When logging in to B from A using ssh -X, I can open gnome-terminal without problems. It only happens under Gnome (or KDE with konsole, respectively.) |
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| 17:19.31 | flithm | hey everyone... is this the right place to ask kde development related questions? |
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| 17:22.05 | Mirrakor | flithm: yes, also see #kde-devel |
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| 17:25.08 | flithm | Mirrakor: okay... I'm just wondering why whenever I use KXmlGuiWindow I get a qWarning: "QFSFileEngine::open: No file name specified" |
| 17:25.16 | flithm | I don't like it there |
| 17:25.54 | flithm | I know I can install a MsgHandler and trap it, but I'm wondering if there's perhaps a better way? :) |
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| 17:31.41 | Mirrakor | flithm: sorry, no idea about that, never saw such a thing ;/ |
| 17:31.59 | flithm | Mirrakor: thanks anyway :) |
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| 17:39.22 | jasonlife | anyone has the same problem and knows how to fix it? |
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| 17:52.29 | P-Luc_Auclair | hi, in 4.2 I have trouble with Phonon, it no longer shows the name of the device but only hw:1,0, why's that? |
| 17:52.50 | P-Luc_Auclair | is that a known bug? |
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| 17:59.41 | bohadil | hola |
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| 18:05.35 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
| 18:05.48 | Kenjiro | what is KDE-4 pdf reader? Okular? |
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| 18:06.34 | pinotree | yes |
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| 18:07.36 | Kenjiro | pinotree: interesting! Because my okular doesn't recognize pdf files :( |
| 18:07.48 | Kenjiro | would you possibly know what I am missing? |
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| 18:08.18 | pinotree | how did you install it? |
| 18:08.27 | Kenjiro | kde? compiled |
| 18:08.38 | Kenjiro | all of it |
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| 18:09.25 | pinotree | then you missed the poppler development stuff |
| 18:09.38 | Kenjiro | hmmmmmmmmmm |
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| 18:09.47 | Kenjiro | pinotree: ok, thanks for the tip. Will check that one |
| 18:10.09 | thermoman | is there a widget for kde to display stock exchange rates? |
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| 18:10.36 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: might wanna try http://johannes.truschnigg.info/code/stockmon.sh.asc |
| 18:10.50 | GNU\colossus | (shell only though) |
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| 18:12.40 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: stockmon.sh: line 25: printf: 1.1091: invalid number |
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| 18:12.58 | GNU\colossus | huh? has yahoo's data format changed? |
| 18:13.11 | GNU\colossus | what symbol did you try to monitor? |
| 18:13.22 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: GBPEUR=X |
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| 18:16.09 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: so you called it by running `./stockmon.sh BGPEUR=X`? |
| 18:16.26 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: sh stockmon.sh GBPEUR=X 10 |
| 18:16.46 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: GBP |
| 18:16.46 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: yeah well, this is a bash script |
| 18:16.52 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: not BGP |
| 18:16.54 | GNU\colossus | it uses non-POSIX-sh features |
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| 18:17.14 | clou | hi |
| 18:17.19 | GNU\colossus | ./stockmon.sh "GBPEUR=X" |
| 18:17.20 | GNU\colossus | Mon Jan 12 19:17:09 CET 2009: GBPEUR=X @ 1.11+ |
| 18:17.31 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: what bash version? |
| 18:17.52 | clou | should i use any special theme for the gtk applications in kde3 to have to best performance of these apps? |
| 18:17.53 | thermoman | GNU bash, version 3.2.25(1)-release (i586-suse-linux-gnu) |
| 18:18.01 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: you need to call it with bash. not a hard/symlink to bash named `sh`. |
| 18:18.10 | GNU\colossus | it needs to be bash, period. your version is sufficient |
| 18:18.23 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: ok. i did misundestood you |
| 18:18.30 | GNU\colossus | GNU bash, version 3.2.48(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) here btw |
| 18:18.37 | GNU\colossus | but 3.0 is enough |
| 18:18.40 | GNU\colossus | maybe ecen 2.05 |
| 18:18.42 | GNU\colossus | even* |
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| 18:19.02 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: same with bash |
| 18:19.09 | thermoman | error is the same |
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| 18:19.36 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: try `LC_ALL=C ./stockmon.sh "GBPEUR=X"` |
| 18:19.57 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: :) this does the trick |
| 18:20.19 | thermoman | maybe put this in the script itself |
| 18:20.41 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: interesting. what's your locale? |
| 18:20.58 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: de_DE.UTF-8 |
| 18:21.03 | GNU\colossus | ah ok |
| 18:21.13 | GNU\colossus | so decimals have , instead of . |
| 18:21.23 | thermoman | yeah |
| 18:21.29 | GNU\colossus | fixed that now |
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| 18:21.38 | thermoman | whats that tput stuff |
| 18:21.41 | GNU\colossus | thanks for uncovering the bug ;) |
| 18:21.55 | GNU\colossus | that's for colouring the results |
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| 18:22.50 | thermoman | GNU\colossus: why not use echo? |
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| 18:23.28 | thermoman | btw: you don't need ';' at the end of each line |
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| 18:25.29 | rakekniven | Which kde 4 app to use for IRC chat? |
| 18:25.38 | thermoman | rakekniven: irssi |
| 18:25.45 | thermoman | rakekniven: plus konsole |
| 18:25.47 | thermoman | :) |
| 18:26.05 | reavertm | quassel is almost kde4 app :) |
| 18:26.08 | epicgoo | :s |
| 18:26.38 | |pclos| | kvirc4 but haven't used it in a while |
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| 18:26.46 | rakekniven | thermoman: I wanna use a native kde4 app |
| 18:27.39 | epicgoo | konsole is a native kde app :P |
| 18:28.02 | |pclos| | :P |
| 18:28.26 | rakekniven | You are right :-) |
| 18:29.01 | GNU\colossus | thermoman: I'm aware of that, it's a personal habit, steming from programming C though :) |
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| 18:32.37 | rakekniven | Today openSUSE upgraded my system to KDE 4 Beta 2. It's so nice! One thing I haven't found in new kmail is "How to show the messages threaded?" like before. Maybe somebody can point me to right setting? |
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| 18:33.40 | praedor | I would like to make a request (add to a wishlist) concerning kget in kde 4.x |
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| 18:34.34 | rakekniven | praedor: See http://bugs.kde.org |
| 18:34.37 | smurfslover | who knows why this happens on every login |
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| 18:34.40 | smurfslover | http://imagebin.ca/view/zASYxnhw.html |
| 18:34.51 | smurfslover | kde 4.2 from suse unstable |
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| 18:34.59 | [GRS] | rakekniven: isn't it in Settings > Configure > Appearance > Message List, under general options? |
| 18:35.29 | smurfslover | can't think of a reason why kded is opening up kwallet |
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| 18:37.50 | rakekniven | [GRS] no |
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| 18:49.06 | smurfslover | hi |
| 18:49.21 | smurfslover | i have kde deamon requesting to open kwallet at login |
| 18:49.30 | smurfslover | don't think it's supposed to |
| 18:49.35 | smurfslover | so how do i get rid of it |
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| 18:51.00 | Murray_B | Hi! I am just trying kde 4.2 pre-release and wonder if it is possible to deactivate the group-view in kmail. Any idea? |
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| 18:53.28 | Samuel-NotAFK | How do I remove window decorations from all my windows? |
| 18:53.36 | Samuel-NotAFK | They're taking up too much space on my tiny screen. |
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| 18:54.24 | Murray_B | Samuel-NotAFK: Should be possible with the window-configuration in system-settings |
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| 18:55.05 | Samuel-NotAFK | Murray_B: I don't see how. |
| 18:55.14 | Lanken | wow, yet again no Sho_ |
| 18:55.15 | Samuel-NotAFK | Murray_B: I've gone through all the options. |
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| 18:55.25 | Lanken | does he still frequent this channel? |
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| 18:58.26 | jpereira | hey,in KDE 3.x i can move the icons of Desktop using some API? |
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| 18:58.44 | Murray_B | Samuel-NotAFK: Hm, right, was just an idea... |
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| 19:08.12 | julian_morrison | hi, can someone tell me what scripts, startup files etc I'd have to change to make KDE4 start up without plasma or kwin, and with a different WM? |
| 19:08.52 | annma | without plasma: what would you put instead? |
| 19:08.57 | annma | plasma is the desktop |
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| 19:09.02 | [GRS] | lol? what would be the point in using it then? haha |
| 19:09.16 | julian_morrison | a tiling window manager. They don't have any use for desktops |
| 19:09.33 | annma | which one is that? |
| 19:09.46 | julian_morrison | I'd still want all the settings, sound, etc daemons. just not the taskbar, desktop, or kwin |
| 19:09.48 | annma | does it provide a background? |
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| 19:09.58 | julian_morrison | awesome wm, dwm, xmonad |
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| 19:10.00 | annma | so don't start KDE at all |
| 19:10.13 | julian_morrison | no, I want the daemons to start |
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| 19:10.42 | annma | for what? |
| 19:10.49 | annma | they'll start if needed by apps |
| 19:10.51 | jasmic | hi, any konsole devs here? In 2007 there was some discussion on the mailinglist about integrating real tiling functionality in konsole (similar do what gnome's terminator does). Does anyone know whether this is still planned? |
| 19:10.55 | annma | like when you run kde apps in GNOME |
| 19:11.04 | annma | if you start KDE you get plasma |
| 19:11.10 | annma | then you can kquitapp plasma |
| 19:11.21 | annma | and plasma is gone |
| 19:11.54 | annma | Awesome WM, what link is that |
| 19:12.01 | annma | google seems thin about it |
| 19:12.03 | julian_morrison | there are daemons for settings, sound, krunner, a lot of stuff |
| 19:12.03 | smurfslover | why does kde deamon asks to open kwallet when i login to kde 4.2? |
| 19:12.18 | jasmic | the conclusion at that time seemed to be that there's already some code available which is not tested/polished enough to make it into the next release (see http://lists.kde.org/?l=konsole-devel&m=118882545329013&w=2) |
| 19:12.18 | annma | so do as I said julian_morrison |
| 19:12.39 | annma | can you paste me the link to one of this wm that doe snot need any desktop please? |
| 19:12.43 | julian_morrison | http://awesome.naquadah.org/ |
| 19:12.48 | julian_morrison | sorry slow machine |
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| 19:13.12 | julian_morrison | it tiles all the windows covering all the desk |
| 19:13.21 | annma | for the WM run systemsettings and in Defaults Applications you can change WM |
| 19:13.24 | julian_morrison | so there is no space for icons, wallpaper etc |
| 19:13.32 | annma | so what do you do with it? |
| 19:13.48 | annma | you only use apps, there's no taskmanager? |
| 19:14.11 | julian_morrison | You run apps, obviously. You don't need a task manager because they are all on screen |
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| 19:14.28 | julian_morrison | "windows" overlap but "tiles" don't |
| 19:14.35 | julian_morrison | they only subdivide the screen |
| 19:14.53 | smurfslover | no kde deamon specialists in here? |
| 19:14.53 | annma | taht's it? |
| 19:15.05 | julian_morrison | you get virtual desktops |
| 19:15.15 | annma | how do you control them? |
| 19:15.26 | julian_morrison | keys |
| 19:15.44 | julian_morrison | but you don't need to resize much because the WM takes care of that |
| 19:15.47 | annma | it mentions systray |
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| 19:16.45 | the_p | for some reason i was kicked out so i reask my question. how do the kde programs know where the config files are stored is there an env variable or is this stored in a config file? |
| 19:17.40 | annma | each KDE app usually saves its config file in $KDEHOME/share/config |
| 19:17.55 | annma | and might save some data in $KDEHOME/share/apps/ |
| 19:18.08 | annma | this is controlled by KConfig classes |
| 19:18.13 | the_p | annma: on my system $KDEHOME is empty? |
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| 19:18.30 | annma | after you changed stuff? |
| 19:18.43 | annma | if so, you're looking on the wront $KDEHOME |
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| 19:19.06 | the_p | annma: no. i must say i have no problems everything works. i just wondered where it is stored. |
| 19:19.26 | annma | you should have stuff in $KDEHOME |
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| 19:19.42 | annma | if not, it's not the right location |
| 19:20.03 | annma | julian_morrison: does it work? |
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| 19:21.16 | Murray_B | Back again - things are getting better here, I am still trying kde 4.2 rc. I want to make some keyboard-shortcuts and were looking for "konsole" in the menueditor but couldn't find it. If I am using the search field in thestart-menu it is shown - where can I find it? |
| 19:21.23 | julian_morrison | annma: does what work? |
| 19:21.34 | annma | your wm as you want it on kde |
| 19:21.49 | annma | without plasma |
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| 19:22.20 | julian_morrison | I'm not trying that yet, computer is slow because of running aptitude updates in another window |
| 19:22.57 | julian_morrison | do you know which part of startup causes plasma to be loaded? I know I can kill and restart it independent of the WM |
| 19:23.03 | annma | ok, if it works I'd try it to see a new desktop experience |
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| 19:23.36 | tuxick | having trouble compiling krdc svn, krdc/vnc/vnchostpreferences.h:28:31: error: ui_vncpreferences.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:23.42 | julian_morrison | You should try awesome anyway without kde for a few minutes. It's obvious what's missing (that's why I want KDE daemons) but it's still really cool |
| 19:23.47 | tuxick | where's it supposed to find ui_vncpreferences.h ? |
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| 19:24.43 | annma | tuxick: it's from a .ui file, should be processed by uic via cmake |
| 19:24.56 | tuxick | ah |
| 19:25.00 | annma | tuxick: where in svn is this code? |
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| 19:25.21 | tuxick | annma: gentoo, in kdebase |
| 19:25.41 | tuxick | ah |
| 19:25.41 | annma | kdebase builds OK |
| 19:25.49 | tuxick | yes, the rest of it does |
| 19:25.54 | annma | so it's a problem on your end |
| 19:25.58 | tuxick | i can find vnc/vncpreferences.ui |
| 19:26.28 | annma | look in the CMakeLists.txt and paste relevant line please |
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| 19:28.33 | tuxick | annma: i don't see ui_vncpreferences.h in any files other than header files |
| 19:28.50 | annma | vncpreferences.ui |
| 19:29.00 | annma | the .h will only be in build dir |
| 19:29.03 | tuxick | yeah that exists |
| 19:29.03 | tuxick | ah |
| 19:29.30 | annma | as I said it is generated by cmake |
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| 20:08.30 | sidh | i have to install a vnc server on a friend 's machine |
| 20:08.41 | sidh | i set up krfb |
| 20:08.59 | sidh | but what is the name of kde vnc client |
| 20:09.05 | cb400f | krdc |
| 20:09.28 | sidh | it is for rdp isn't it ? |
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| 20:22.57 | omar | #videopimp |
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| 20:37.43 | Kenjiro | hi again |
| 20:37.56 | Kenjiro | in kde-4.2-beta2, does kopete support MSN protocol? |
| 20:38.06 | pinotree | yes |
| 20:38.10 | pinotree | it is called WLM |
| 20:38.40 | Kenjiro | hmmmmmmmmmm |
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| 20:39.13 | thiago_home | short for "Windows Live Messenger" |
| 20:40.10 | Kenjiro | hmmm couldn't find that one :( |
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| 20:40.19 | Kenjiro | may I be missing any dependency? |
| 20:40.20 | smurfslover | same here the first time i saw it |
| 20:40.32 | thiago_home | yes, libmsn |
| 20:41.23 | Kenjiro | thiago_home: hmmmmmmmmmm let me see that then ;) |
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| 20:44.22 | v6lur | in KDE3 kwikdisk, can "critically full" (as in "pop up a window when a disk gets critically full") be configured anywhere? |
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| 20:44.53 | Kenjiro | this libmsn dependency is new, right? |
| 20:45.05 | drantin | yes |
| 20:45.06 | Kenjiro | we didn't need that on kde-4.1.x |
| 20:45.08 | Kenjiro | ok |
| 20:45.09 | drantin | and it's optional |
| 20:45.26 | Kenjiro | drantin: not optional if you need MSN support on kopete, right? :) |
| 20:45.47 | drantin | you can still use the old one |
| 20:45.50 | Kenjiro | is libmsn latest version as old as 2004? |
| 20:46.01 | pinotree | no |
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| 20:46.07 | drantin | kopete supports two methods of msn connection now |
| 20:46.09 | Kenjiro | new search then *LOL* |
| 20:46.21 | Kenjiro | drantin: please enlighten me |
| 20:46.29 | pinotree | drantin: nope, it just supports one |
| 20:46.35 | drantin | they tossed the old one then? |
| 20:46.43 | pinotree | yes |
| 20:46.52 | drantin | last time i was on trunk it had two, been a while though |
| 20:46.58 | drantin | well, weeks |
| 20:47.00 | pinotree | (disabled, but unsupported) |
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| 20:50.09 | Kenjiro | after installing libmsn... will I need to recompile kdepim? (kopete is in kdepim, right?) |
| 20:50.16 | pinotree | no, kdenetwork |
| 20:50.16 | thiago_home | no |
| 20:50.28 | hron84 | anybody uses NetworkManager 0.7? |
| 20:50.44 | pinotree | hron84: ... and please do direct questions |
| 20:51.22 | Kenjiro | ah, ok, kdenetwork. But will I need to recompile it? |
| 20:51.44 | hron84 | okay, how can i disable hostname changing feature in networkmanager 0.7 |
| 20:51.47 | hron84 | ? |
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| 20:51.53 | jpereira | i can access the all files that existing in kde menu? (the /usr/share/applications/*.desktop), becouse i need show the all installed applications in kde. |
| 20:52.02 | jpereira | it's possible? |
| 20:53.21 | spic | Is there any other shortcut besides ctrl-L to access address bar in konqueror (kde 3.5)? When konqueror has some image open, even from web (http://localhost/some.jpg), ctrl-L gets stolen to image rotation, and I can't get to location without a mouse :( |
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| 20:55.31 | thiago_home | jpereira: do you want to do it programmatically? |
| 20:56.10 | thiago_home | jpereira: what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 20:56.27 | hron84 | my problem is NM sets my hostname anyway to localhost.localdomain BEFORE connecting to network. It's wrong, very-very wrong, because my kde is go to unusable. i found some infos on net (like http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2008-December/msg00058.html) but the solution i found nowhere |
| 20:56.34 | hron84 | anybody can help me? |
| 20:57.08 | scrash09 | I'm trying to migrate an Opensuse 11.1 box from KDE 3 -> 4. All pkgs installed, but no luck getting KDE4 to launch. drop to 'init 3', @ exec "plasma", I simply get: |
| 20:57.08 | scrash09 | "KUniqueApplication: cannot find the d-bus session server". Googling, so far lots of people seeing the same thing, but not yet found a solution. Ideas? |
| 20:57.38 | v6lur | spic: settings -> conf shortcuts -> clear location bar |
| 20:58.24 | v6lur | spic: or press F6 |
| 20:59.02 | v6lur | (that just focuses it, didn't find that at first) |
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| 20:59.51 | spic | v6lur, aha, thanks. and, I figured out that if i open conf-shortcuts with an image open, I can remove ctrl-l/ctr-r assigned to GVimagePart rotations, which seems better to me |
| 20:59.59 | jpereira | thiago_home: i want list the applications in kde menu (/usr/share/applications/kde/) |
| 21:00.12 | jpereira | access the name and path of app |
| 21:00.44 | v6lur | in KDE3 kwikdisk, can "critically full" (as in "pop up a window when a disk gets critically full") be configured anywhere? |
| 21:00.49 | v6lur | or is it hardcoded at 95% ? e.g., with 160 GB drive, 5% free = 7,5 GB - and that's far from critically full imho :/ |
| 21:01.41 | thiago_home | jpereira: again, why? |
| 21:01.47 | thiago_home | jpereira: are you writing a new menu application? |
| 21:02.01 | spic | v6lur, maybe ext3 root reserved space kicks in? it's 5% by default |
| 21:02.31 | jpereira | thiago_home: yes, i want get the list of all app in kde menu for using in my application. |
| 21:02.58 | thiago_home | jpereira: take a look at the menu plasmoids and at kio_application ioslave |
| 21:03.02 | thiago_home | jpereira: you'll see the code there |
| 21:03.22 | thiago_home | it follows the XDG menu specification, which you can find at freedesktop.org |
| 21:03.23 | jpereira | don't exactly for make the new menu, is only get the list of programms |
| 21:03.47 | thiago_home | you haven't told me why yet |
| 21:04.24 | jpereira | becouse the application that i working in my company, need show the app installed in kde menu |
| 21:04.54 | thiago_home | jpereira: then you don't need to list the menu |
| 21:05.02 | thiago_home | why do you want to obtain a list of all applications in the menu? |
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| 21:05.18 | thiago_home | or, put another way, why don't you ask what you want to accomplish, what your goal is? |
| 21:05.28 | thiago_home | don't assume the method |
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| 21:06.26 | zwerg__ | Hi there. |
| 21:07.15 | cga | hi, how do i disable the touchpad tapping in kde4 please? |
| 21:07.20 | zwerg__ | Any chance of getting a german/central european weather forecast as a data engine for plasma weather applet? |
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| 21:08.02 | thiago_home | zwerg__: BBC has data on Germany |
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| 21:09.41 | zwerg__ | thiago_home: Is there any list somewhere? My little cities don't seem to be in there ;) |
| 21:10.13 | thiago_home | Oslo is there |
| 21:10.16 | thiago_home | that's the only I tried |
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| 21:11.44 | Dumble | ho ! I found a nice bug with kmines of KDE 4.2 : on a new game, do a middle vlivk |
| 21:11.51 | Dumble | click* somewhere |
| 21:11.55 | BULLE | v-lick! |
| 21:11.57 | Dumble | then a left click |
| 21:12.00 | Dumble | and you lose |
| 21:12.07 | Dumble | :D |
| 21:12.45 | Dumble | erf, it worked 4 times and now it doesn't work anymore :s |
| 21:12.50 | Dumble | that's not fun |
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| 21:17.17 | Kenjiro | well, i guess I do need to recompile kdenetwork-4.2-beta2 |
| 21:17.17 | Kenjiro | :( |
| 21:17.43 | rusconi | Hi all ! I've compiled KDE from trunk today. I'm trying to setup the akonadi stuff. Can't seem to have the mysql server executed, although it was found and the driver also. Anybody willing to help, please ? |
| 21:17.58 | Kenjiro | (so kopete will suport WLM) |
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| 21:20.06 | litb | haha |
| 21:20.08 | litb | kde rocks |
| 21:20.42 | Skrot- | Kenjiro: I think WLM is broken for non-official clients at the moment.. |
| 21:21.06 | litb | it looks so nice |
| 21:21.20 | pinotree | Skrot-: it's been fixed |
| 21:21.25 | litb | but i fear the windows still resize so slaggy :p |
| 21:21.25 | Skrot- | great :) |
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| 21:22.03 | Kenjiro | pinotree: in kde-4.2beta2? |
| 21:22.09 | Kenjiro | or later versions? |
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| 21:22.16 | Skrot- | The issue was at the server side |
| 21:22.22 | pinotree | Skrot-: no |
| 21:22.47 | pinotree | Kenjiro: any, since the new WLM protocol is using a new libmsn library, and it was fixed |
| 21:22.48 | litb | is there already a location taken for the next akademy? |
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| 21:23.22 | thiago_home | next as in 2010? |
| 21:23.26 | thiago_home | no, 2010 isn't chosen yet |
| 21:24.00 | Skrot- | pinotree: I assumed kopetes WLM plugin suffered from the same issue as http://adiumx.com/blog/2009/01/msn-rejecting-adium-132-connections/ |
| 21:24.24 | pinotree | yes, and it is not a server-side problem, but a client-one |
| 21:24.49 | Skrot- | okay :) |
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| 21:26.07 | margiolas_ | Skrot: it's true |
| 21:26.31 | margiolas_ | but the kmess is fixed at least svn snapshot |
| 21:26.59 | pinotree | and libmsn in its svn as well |
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| 21:27.26 | Kenjiro | pinotree: thanks for all the informations |
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| 21:28.15 | rusconi | can anybody tell me what should be entered in the "MySQL server executable" line edit widget of the Akonadi configuration in the page "Internal MySQL Server" ? |
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| 21:29.09 | remur_bln | rusconi: mysql maybe? |
| 21:29.17 | remur_bln | 'mysql' without the ' |
| 21:29.31 | rusconi | ok, trying this |
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| 21:32.13 | rusconi | remur_bln: no it complains that the server is not found. But if I insert /usr/bin/mysql, then its warns MySQL found with unexpected name" and goes on untill error : "The Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus which typically means it was not started or encountered a fatal error during startup." |
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| 21:34.09 | rusconi | What does "The Akonadi control process is not registered at D-Bus" mean exactly ? |
| 21:34.51 | thiago_home | it means the process did not register with the D-Bus session daemon |
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| 21:36.11 | rusconi | thiago_home: thanks, but that registering should be automatic upon lauching of the akonadi server ? |
| 21:36.24 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 21:36.43 | remur_bln | rusconi: sorry I don't have a clue, wyas just saying the MySQL Server executable is the 'mysql' |
| 21:36.54 | remur_bln | thought that might help already ;) |
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| 21:37.44 | rusconi | remur_bln: in fact it helped, but now another problem has shown up :) |
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| 21:38.32 | rusconi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.07 | remur_bln | kopete as well? huh, well, I am running the kde4.2 packages from opensuse and they work fine |
| 21:39.19 | remur_bln | maybe you can check if they do something special with akonadi? |
| 21:40.21 | remur_bln | I thought kmail and it's buddies don't use akonadi yet? |
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| 21:43.08 | rusconi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.15 | rusconi | same for kontact and kmail |
| 21:43.23 | Kenjiro | well, have to go now. Thaks guys |
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| 21:45.08 | remur_bln | rusconi: wierd =/ |
| 21:45.11 | PhilRod | rusconi: alternatively, you could disable the akonadi migrator: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#How_do_I_disable_automatic_migration_from_KDE.27s_traditional_framework.3F |
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| 21:45.25 | PhilRod | (that's the thing that runs at kmail/kopete startup and fails) |
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| 21:46.38 | rusconi | PhilRod:thanks, indeed, I was aware of that page, but I found it sexier to have this part of the setup working properly, in part because if I understand correctly, all these program will in the end be based on Akonadi, or not ? |
| 21:47.34 | PhilRod | rusconi: that's how I understand it, yes. But I couldn't get the server working when I tried, and this was the least annoying option |
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| 21:48.09 | globeondope | howdy, in 4.2 the taskbar color with the oxygen style is blue, how can I make it black again? |
| 21:48.25 | rusconi | PhilRod: and since I want to continue using KPilot, I have to have Akonadi working properly, as I understand it. |
| 21:49.07 | PhilRod | rusconi: ah, ok |
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| 22:02.29 | KomiaPoika | in kde4.2beta how can i regroup all xterm's into one tab in the taskbar? |
| 22:02.51 | thiago_home | right-click the taskbar and enable grouping |
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| 22:03.51 | KomiaPoika | thiago_home: where? it only lets me chose: lock widgets, panel settings |
| 22:04.14 | KomiaPoika | thiago_home: oh, got it, i had to select do not allow ... then allow ... |
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| 22:09.13 | Fri13 | Hi! Is there fix to dolphin problem, when you open Dolphin, it opens a ~/Documents and not the plain home, even it is configured to open only a ~? |
| 22:10.20 | reavertm | ~/Documents ? is it kubuntu? |
| 22:10.22 | apt | reavertm: okay |
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| 22:10.44 | reavertm | and what's the problem with that anyway? |
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| 22:16.14 | Fri13 | reavertm: Mandriva and openSUSE are both having same problem. |
| 22:16.46 | Fri13 | reavertm: when I open dolphin, it does not open the /home/fri13 but /home/fri13/Documents. Even that it is set to open /home/fri13/ on settings. |
| 22:17.32 | Fri13 | reavertm: samething is happening for all KDE applications when opening save/open dialog. First place by default is /home/fri13/Documents and not home. |
| 22:18.06 | Fri13 | reavertm: the problem does not exist <4.1.3 but 4.1.3 is affected. Same is 4.1.96 version too. |
| 22:19.05 | reavertm | hmm, I see in trunk as well |
| 22:20.10 | reavertm | you should file bug then I guess |
| 22:20.44 | Fri13 | reavertm: I have not even checked, because both Mandriva and openSUSE has it (openSUSE 11.1 even by default) so it must be already noticed... |
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| 22:23.19 | julian_morrison | well, I managed to get awesome WM to run in KDE |
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| 22:30.13 | Fri13 | reavertm: There is report and fix. It is about XDF... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169016 so if sometimes needed... |
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| 22:32.47 | Fri13 | reavertm: not actuall fix but that way or then changing the dolphin start parameter on k-menu. |
| 22:33.05 | reavertm | at least bug is opened about it |
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| 22:35.50 | js1 | heelo, Can someone tell me if I can use Phonon layer to write an application to concatenate sounds or videos ? |
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| 22:39.30 | js1 | hello |
| 22:39.52 | thiago_home | js1: yes, as long as you play them |
| 22:39.54 | thiago_home | you can't write to files |
| 22:40.10 | js1 | ah that's not what I need :P |
| 22:40.19 | js1 | why you cannot? |
| 22:40.23 | ErkiDerLoony | Hi! I added my external usb had drive to /etc/fstab. Now if I try to mount it with dolphin it says that it won't mount the device as it's listed in /etc/fstab. |
| 22:40.28 | js1 | ffmpeg does it partially but :S |
| 22:40.33 | thiago_home | because Phonon does not support encoding |
| 22:40.36 | ErkiDerLoony | But /media/cdrom is listed in /etc/fstab and dolphin does mount it. |
| 22:40.41 | thiago_home | you may get the PCM samples, but I'm not sure |
| 22:40.43 | ErkiDerLoony | Is there some flag to change this behaviour? |
| 22:40.49 | thiago_home | then you do whatever you want with them. |
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| 22:41.01 | ErkiDerLoony | For example dolphin could mount it exactly _as_ specified in /etc/fstab. |
| 22:41.26 | js1 | so theres no sound mixer (software) ? |
| 22:41.37 | thiago_home | ErkiDerLoony: does it have the 'user' flag? |
| 22:41.45 | thiago_home | js1: that's pulseaudio or alsa |
| 22:41.51 | thiago_home | js1: but mixer has nothing to do with encoding |
| 22:41.53 | ErkiDerLoony | thiago_home: Yes, it does. |
| 22:42.03 | thiago_home | is it listen by lshal? |
| 22:42.29 | js1 | I'm trying to write a small piece of code to concatenate, split sounds for a Kapp |
| 22:42.32 | ErkiDerLoony | thiago_home: Should I remove the âuserâ flag? |
| 22:42.43 | js1 | and/or video files |
| 22:42.44 | thiago_home | ErkiDerLoony: no, you should make HAL see it |
| 22:42.59 | ErkiDerLoony | thiago_home: How can that be done? |
| 22:43.24 | thiago_home | js1: Phonon may give you the PCM samples, but I'm sure it doesn't give you the frame pixmaps yet |
| 22:43.31 | thiago_home | and it doesn't support encoding |
| 22:43.40 | thiago_home | Phonon is meant to be a playback framework |
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| 22:43.46 | ErkiDerLoony | The /etc/fstab line reads âUUID=55ba4890-140e-4087-8851-3c17b295c421 /media/Archiv ext3 defaults,user,noauto 0 0â. |
| 22:43.57 | thiago_home | ErkiDerLoony: try /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ |
| 22:44.15 | thiago_home | btw, usually, you don't set mount points in /media |
| 22:44.17 | js1 | I saw AudioOutput so I was excited that it might be a fit, but |
| 22:44.19 | thiago_home | let HAL manage /media on its own |
| 22:44.42 | js1 | Audacity doesnt seems to do that neither :( |
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| 22:46.57 | js1 | PulseAudio seems to mix, but not with video |
| 22:47.08 | ErkiDerLoony | Is there some tutorial that explains how I make HAL manage my /media? |
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| 22:55.28 | js1 | thiago: How do you mix files in PulseAudio.. I read the doc: http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup |
| 22:55.31 | js1 | but can't find it |
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| 23:03.14 | MikeH | Hi guys, is it possible to get Kmail to move messages to a Trash folder (imap) when deleted? |
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| 23:10.02 | P-Luc_Auclair | is it possible to play blu-ray stuff on KDE/Linux yet or there's still DRM **** ? |
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| 23:26.18 | Firefishe | If I wanted to help out with the kde documentation effort ('cause I'm just not a coder ;->), where would I go to find out how? |
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| 23:32.41 | phoenixz | Hi, running KDE4.1.2, trying to burn a music CD, I add mp3 files and I get this message: |
| 23:32.43 | phoenixz | Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: |
| 23:32.45 | phoenixz | You may manually convert these audio files to wave using another application supporting the audio format and then add the wave files to the K3b project. |
| 23:32.46 | phoenixz | /home/sven/media/music/artists/fall out boy/infinitly on high/03 - This Aint A Scene, It's An Arms Race.mp3 |
| 23:32.59 | phoenixz | ups |
| 23:33.02 | phoenixz | sorry for the flood |
| 23:33.47 | P-Luc_Auclair | phoenixz, what kde version? |
| 23:34.28 | phoenixz | P-Luc_Auclair: KDE4.1.something, but I see the k3b is still 3.5.10... weird.. |
| 23:34.36 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: What distro may help more |
| 23:34.45 | phoenixz | kubuntu 8.10 |
| 23:35.08 | PhrkOnLsh | hmm |
| 23:35.16 | pinotree | Firefishe: to the kde documentation project |
| 23:35.23 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: perhaps mp3 support isn't packaged on kubuntu by default. it isn't on fedora. |
| 23:35.31 | svenadh | phoenixz: is lame installed? |
| 23:35.38 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: maybe there is a k3b-codecs package or so |
| 23:36.13 | phoenixz | Already looked for packages.. Im 100% sure I did mp3 burning before on kubuntu, thats why I am so surprised about it.. |
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| 23:36.39 | phoenixz | Let me check on lame |
| 23:36.43 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: Have you do any update recently? |
| 23:37.14 | phoenixz | PhrkOnLsh: yeap, almost dayly.. updated k3b a little while ago.. |
| 23:37.28 | phoenixz | On a side subject.. there isnt something like k4b already>? |
| 23:37.31 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: did apt say anything about packages getting removed or anything...? |
| 23:37.39 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: k3b for kde4, there is ;) |
| 23:37.42 | pinotree | Firefishe: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-doc-english the kde-doc-english is a good place to propose your help, and get started with documentation writing |
| 23:37.42 | PhrkOnLsh | it's still k3b |
| 23:37.55 | P-Luc_Auclair | afaik k3b doesn't use lame, there's another one to decode mp3 |
| 23:38.09 | phoenixz | PhrkOnLsh: my k3b still is 3.5.10... there is one for KDE4 already? |
| 23:38.26 | P-Luc_Auclair | yes |
| 23:38.28 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: imo yes. maybe not in ubuntu archive, but I have seen one poking around |
| 23:38.38 | pinotree | Firefishe: there's also #kde-docs as channel for the documentation team |
| 23:39.06 | svenadh | P-Luc_Auclair: transcode |
| 23:39.44 | phoenixz | mmmm.. Looked for mp3 and Just saw some ubuntu restricted package which was not installed.. Installing that now, and lets see |
| 23:39.55 | P-Luc_Auclair | no, it's "mad mp3" |
| 23:39.58 | P-Luc_Auclair | look for that |
| 23:40.25 | PhrkOnLsh | phoenixz: there u go ;) |
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| 23:44.40 | erik-k | How do I set up printing in KDE4? There's no obvious printer setup button under system settings and the new print panel is... less useful then the 3.5 one. |
| 23:44.47 | erik-k | *than |
| 23:46.06 | P-Luc_Auclair | erik-k, try your distro's printer panel |
| 23:46.57 | erik-k | P-Luc_Auclair: that doesn't help telling /kde/ which print server to use |
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| 23:47.57 | erik-k | I should clarify, "printing" works but where's the panel to set the print server? with 3.5 is as as simple as clicking 'system settings' on the bottom of any print window |
| 23:47.58 | P-Luc_Auclair | erik-k, I don't know what distro you are using, but I'm telling you this as a Suse user |
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| 23:49.39 | Firefishe | pinotree: Just got back now and saw your messages. Thank you for that information. I'll consult those areas. :) |
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| 23:51.54 | Firefishe | I'm using kde 4.1.x on kubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex). Has anyone, to anybody's knowledge, come up with a way to allow kde 3.5.9/10 on 8.10? |
| 23:52.08 | pinotree | Firefishe: #kubuntu for this, though |
| 23:52.45 | Firefishe | pinotree: I follow, however it *is* kde-centric, so I thought I'd ask here. They, also, over there may ask me to come hither ;) hee |
| 23:53.10 | pinotree | Firefishe: we don't produce distro packages, nor support them |
| 23:54.22 | Firefishe | pinotree: Very well. |
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