| 00:00.11 | PeterFA | I wonder what happens if Microsoft truly dies... |
| 00:00.15 | PeterFA | I mean, how many BSOD jokes? |
| 00:00.23 | PeterFA | How funny will they be? |
| 00:00.27 | call_me_Away | PeterFA: in all honesty, I've met people running windows who returned a entire system to a store becuase when they plugged in an ipod it didn't automatically work :) |
| 00:00.41 | break19 | call_me_Away: then they shoulda got a mac. :p |
| 00:00.50 | hallowname | PeterFA: call_me_Away: offtopic call? ring ring? who's there? offtopic... |
| 00:01.15 | PeterFA | call_me_Away, haha. |
| 00:01.52 | call_me_Away | anyway |
| 00:02.29 | call_me_Away | why is it defaulting to joliet of all absurd choices? |
| 00:03.01 | break19 | because that one is the most-widely used |
| 00:03.22 | call_me_Away | yes, but without lfn support? |
| 00:04.16 | maazu | gotta go! |
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| 00:16.24 | ma3x | hm, a quick question: why when i put -dpi 100 in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, this affects root, but not my local user ma3x. I don't have any .xserverrc or .xinitrc in my home dir |
| 00:16.30 | ma3x | what could be the reason that no matter what i set in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc the dpi doesn't change for my user |
| 00:16.40 | ma3x | this happens when i startx |
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| 00:21.39 | ma3x | helloooooooooooooooooooo |
| 00:21.54 | sepult_ | ma3x: either it is another program |
| 00:22.01 | ma3x | what program |
| 00:22.01 | sepult_ | which is overriding your setting |
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| 00:22.10 | sepult_ | like your window_manager |
| 00:22.14 | ma3x | i dont have one |
| 00:22.18 | ma3x | i manually startx |
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| 00:23.07 | sepult_ | ok |
| 00:23.23 | sepult_ | ma3x: do you start it as your local user ? |
| 00:23.26 | sepult_ | or as root ? |
| 00:23.42 | sepult_ | since starting it may not be allow as other than root.... |
| 00:23.48 | sepult_ | allowed |
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| 00:24.07 | ma3x | as local |
| 00:24.09 | ma3x | and as root |
| 00:24.26 | sepult_ | if you start it as local user it doesn't get recognized ? that option ` |
| 00:24.28 | sepult_ | ?? |
| 00:24.31 | ma3x | when i start it as root it reads the dpi from /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 00:24.36 | ma3x | but as local user, it override |
| 00:25.41 | sepult_ | oh ok |
| 00:26.01 | sepult_ | so long as your user has no access to /ec/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 00:26.09 | sepult_ | it won't |
| 00:26.16 | sepult_ | recognize that option |
| 00:26.33 | sepult_ | unless u set it suid_root or so |
| 00:26.55 | sepult_ | it seems to be just an authentication problem |
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| 00:27.49 | ma3x | the file is already 755 |
| 00:27.58 | ma3x | i don't need to set another permission |
| 00:28.04 | sepult_ | ok |
| 00:28.34 | sepult_ | and what if you copy that xserverrc as .xserverrc to your home directory of your local user ? |
| 00:29.23 | ma3x | ah wait |
| 00:29.25 | ma3x | it reads it |
| 00:29.33 | ma3x | but then just as x startx, i see the cursor |
| 00:29.39 | ma3x | and it exits again to the console |
| 00:29.54 | ma3x | the error i get is fatal server error: server is already active for display 0 |
| 00:30.03 | ma3x | but how is that possible i don't run another session |
| 00:30.11 | sepult_ | oh |
| 00:30.14 | ma3x | what? |
| 00:30.15 | ma3x | any hint? |
| 00:30.18 | sepult_ | you have an Xorg active |
| 00:30.24 | sepult_ | if it tells you that |
| 00:30.33 | sepult_ | you didn't kill one |
| 00:30.37 | sepult_ | killall -9 Xorg |
| 00:31.05 | ma3x | Xorg: no process killed |
| 00:31.12 | ma3x | but no Xorg is running |
| 00:31.23 | ma3x | when i type startx, the screen launches i see the cursor |
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| 00:31.25 | ma3x | and it exits then |
| 00:31.29 | sepult_ | and delete all /tmp/.X0-lock |
| 00:31.30 | ma3x | it's like trying to double launch |
| 00:31.34 | ma3x | already did that |
| 00:31.38 | ma3x | there aren't any |
| 00:31.57 | sepult_ | ok than the failure seems to be somewhere else |
| 00:32.05 | sepult_ | if it tries to double start |
| 00:32.24 | ma3x | well that's just a wild guess |
| 00:32.29 | ma3x | i don't know if it tries to double start |
| 00:32.44 | sepult_ | what does /var/log/messages tell you ? |
| 00:32.46 | sepult_ | or dmesg |
| 00:33.00 | sepult_ | or /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 00:33.10 | sepult_ | or /var/log/syslog |
| 00:33.21 | sepult_ | you can get other hints from there |
| 00:33.58 | ma3x | nothing useful |
| 00:33.59 | ma3x | no error |
| 00:34.03 | ma3x | you see when i startx |
| 00:34.06 | ma3x | it launches |
| 00:34.15 | ma3x | and just before the kde splash should come out, it kills itself |
| 00:34.21 | ma3x | just like if you pressed ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 00:34.26 | ma3x | know what i mean? |
| 00:34.49 | sepult_ | hmmmm ok |
| 00:35.02 | sepult_ | did you try to just launch startkde ? |
| 00:35.14 | JW | If I go to Desktop Config (you know KDE COntrol Center) Hardware > Display I get a warning: "Your X server does not support resize and rotate. Please update to version 4.3 or greater." What is it that needs to be 4.3 - my server is xorg 7.3 |
| 00:36.11 | sepult_ | randr support i assume |
| 00:36.32 | ma3x | startkde doesn't work |
| 00:36.38 | ma3x | i get like many errors |
| 00:36.43 | ma3x | fonts |
| 00:37.02 | sepult_ | ma3x: sorry but i can't tell you just by that what's wrong... |
| 00:37.14 | sepult_ | ma3x: try reinstalling ? |
| 00:37.20 | sepult_ | maybe ? |
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| 00:38.29 | JW | sepult_: "randr support i assume" but what does this mean? there's no package named randr |
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| 00:38.52 | ricochet | where might I find information on what this means/ how to fix it? /usr/bin/kate: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN14QObjectPrivate15checkWindowRoleE |
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| 00:40.24 | sepult_ | JW: it's something along the X modules i assume i don't know |
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| 00:41.03 | sepult_ | ricochet: symbols are looked up by debugging programs |
| 00:41.20 | sepult_ | ricochet: if there's a version mismatch or so it could be that you get warnings and errors |
| 00:42.34 | sepult_ | ricochet: ricochet ensure your librarys are not mixed... |
| 00:43.27 | sepult_ | ricochet: maybe your /usr/lib/libQtSvg.so.4 is newer as those mentioned for the package kate... |
| 00:44.02 | ricochet | sepult_: fwiw, kate runs fine alone - but not when this other program tries to open it |
| 00:44.24 | sepult_ | ricochet: which other program ? |
| 00:44.44 | ricochet | sepult_: the perforce client GUI |
| 00:45.18 | call_me_Away | JW: xrandr module for xorg server, allows soft resize, rotate, and replaces xinerama for huge multi-device stretched desktops |
| 00:45.35 | JW | hmm |
| 00:45.39 | sepult_ | ricochet: ok, then don't use it, or use another tool for the same job, |
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| 00:45.58 | JW | call_me_Away: "replaces xinerama for huge multi-device stretched desktops" does that mean it's incompatible with nvidia commercial drivesr that are using twinview? |
| 00:47.25 | ricochet | sepult_: yeah, wish I could. perforce is proprietary, and I have to use it for work :-/ So, is this likely a perforce-client problem, or a library/OS issue I could resolve? |
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| 00:48.02 | call_me_Away | JW: don't work with twinview, don't own nvidia cards, but I would imagine that it either a. is compatible or b. is not needed because twinview does the nesessary functions on it's own |
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| 00:48.24 | Toran | Is there a way to disable Konqueror's status bar in KDE 4.x? |
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| 00:48.40 | rohanpm | ricochet: most likely the perforce client ships with its own versions of Qt libraries and they "leak" out into processes launched by it |
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| 00:49.24 | ricochet | rohampm: oh, interesting... |
| 00:49.26 | sepult_ | ricochet: can be both too, look in the packages file list which sqlite libraries are mentioned and if they refer both to some other versions than it would explain your error messages, but it can also be that another program got another sqlite version pulled in |
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| 00:51.32 | ricochet | sepult_: hm. I only see one version in /usr/lib. which is libQtSql.so.4.4.3 |
| 00:51.39 | call_me_Away | JW: this should help you out with xrandr: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=927 |
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| 00:52.33 | JW | call_me_Away: thanks |
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| 00:53.18 | call_me_Away | my guess is that your distro didn't think to package xrandr with x for whatever reason |
| 00:53.38 | ricochet | sepult_ rohanpm: ah, I do see qt libs in the perforce dir. OK I'll poke around with those. thank you very much for your help. |
| 00:53.49 | call_me_Away | perhaps they intend for you to use their desktop config utility rather then KDE's and therfore do not care |
| 00:54.13 | sepult_ | ricochet: maybe you copy your distros qt libs over that of perforce but without any guarantee.... |
| 00:54.38 | call_me_Away | unless you are from scratch, in which case KDE needs xrander if you want the configuration GUI |
| 00:54.41 | shenderson | I love the PCPer questions. They're like those math questions for contests on cereal boxes. They're just there to weed out the completely useless. |
| 00:54.47 | sepult_ | ricochet: that would be something i would test, making backups of the old ones of course |
| 00:55.05 | shenderson | Woops. Wrong window. |
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| 00:55.54 | ricochet | sepult_: oh sweet - I just moved them out of the perforce dir, and now its using the OS qt. great! and it looks better, and opens kate |
| 00:56.11 | sepult_ | ok |
| 00:56.35 | ricochet | thanks |
| 00:57.13 | Toran | Is there a way to disable Konqueror's status bar in KDE 4.x? |
| 01:03.33 | sepult_ | yes |
| 01:03.57 | sepult_ | either via konqueror settings or in ~/.kde4/* |
| 01:04.11 | sepult_ | or globally in /usr/share/kde4/* |
| 01:04.23 | sepult_ | there you'll find tons of stuff you can set and unset |
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| 01:53.55 | deitarion | Is there a way I could edit the "Be Free" start page for Konqueror? |
| 01:54.23 | deitarion | Correction: Is it a file I could override via ~/.kde? |
| 01:54.49 | deitarion | (Because, obviously, I can edit it. I just don't want to have to muck around with system-wide stuff) |
| 01:55.12 | Paddy_EIRE | deitarion: you just want to change it to something else.. e.g. google or your home directory ? |
| 01:55.22 | Paddy_EIRE | or edit ti |
| 01:55.25 | Paddy_EIRE | it* |
| 01:55.32 | deitarion | Paddy_EIRE: No, I want to add /srv/fservroot to the existing set of options. |
| 01:56.26 | Paddy_EIRE | deitarion: ah.. hmm I would assume its an xml file.. check your konqueror start page/home page in the settings dialogue to see where it is located.. I no longer use it |
| 01:56.38 | Paddy_EIRE | although customising it does appeal to me |
| 01:57.13 | deitarion | "Home Page" is set to /home/ssokolow. The "Be Free" page is selected via the "When konqueror starts:" dropdown. ("Show Introduction Page") |
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| 01:57.53 | Paddy_EIRE | deitarion: no by default its in their.. I remember that |
| 01:57.54 | Paddy_EIRE | there* |
| 01:58.07 | Paddy_EIRE | gah.. let me see |
| 01:58.07 | Ace2017_- | deitarion: edit /usr/share/kde4/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html |
| 01:58.21 | Paddy_EIRE | Ace2017_-: cool |
| 01:58.24 | deitarion | Paddy_EIRE: No. I never changed off the defaults that I got when Gentoo gave me ~/.kde4.2 |
| 01:58.31 | Paddy_EIRE | ah |
| 01:58.38 | Paddy_EIRE | try what Ace2017_-said |
| 01:59.10 | deitarion | I'll try adding a ~/.kde4.2/share/kde4/apps/konqueror/about/launch.html page. |
| 02:00.17 | Paddy_EIRE | deitarion: If I recall correctly kubuntu has a custom style for their start page |
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| 02:00.41 | Paddy_EIRE | not sure with gentoo.. I would imagine they would use the kde4 default |
| 02:00.46 | deitarion | Yeah. |
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| 02:13.36 | break19 | meh.. hey, where, by default, does kscreensaver look for additional screensavers? I've installed one (twice, once from source tarball, another from a source buildpkg for my distro(arch)) and it has yet to show up in my screensaver list... |
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| 02:13.49 | break19 | but, it's in my path, and it runs fine when i execute it from the terminal |
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| 02:15.18 | break19 | and, I have 264 .desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/ - but only like.. 6 screensavers (the default ones) |
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| 02:15.59 | Squidy | Hi there,, I'm trying to configure servicemenu to run xine when I click in a video file.... but nothing happens... and when I configure that to run mplayer or gmplayer it works... I think the trouble is in variable %F that xine is not recognizing... |
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| 02:16.16 | Squidy | May anybody help me? :) |
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| 02:18.02 | Squidy | I'm using this: Exec=DISPLAY=:0.1 xine -f -g %F |
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| 02:19.27 | break19 | oh, that figures.. the mf'ing thing's gonna make a liar outta me.. |
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| 02:19.55 | break19 | "kcmshell4 screensaver" shows em all, including the rss-glx ones I added... |
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| 02:42.51 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: can you run xine from the alt+f2 run box? |
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| 02:44.06 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: and after selecting a video file can you openwith try opening with other> xine using xine -f -g |
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| 02:45.54 | Squidy | Ace2017_-: It seems to be a xine trouble... I've tried to run from a terminal (DISPLAY=:0.1 xine video.avi).. and It didn't work... |
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| 02:46.16 | [Tequila] | is there a way to log stuff on the clip board in a .txt ........ in bulk? ex if 15 links are on the clip board i can transfer it all in a txt .. or in real time? |
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| 02:46.43 | Squidy | Ace2017_-: when i try that i receive: Cannot open display '0.1' for video. Falling back to primary display. |
| 02:46.45 | Squidy | Weird |
| 02:46.59 | Squidy | mplayer works... |
| 02:47.02 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: does xine output anything when playing in konsole? |
| 02:48.17 | Squidy | It appears the display message.. and this: X Error of failed request: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)... |
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| 02:49.31 | Desi_Muna | hello |
| 02:49.57 | Ace2017_- | hi |
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| 02:50.41 | Desi_Muna | how can i disable akonadi self test from start up |
| 02:51.00 | Desi_Muna | it keep shows me on whenever i start my laptop |
| 02:51.21 | Desi_Muna | just annoying |
| 02:51.31 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: does :0.0 work? |
| 02:51.50 | Desi_Muna | anyone got any clue? |
| 02:51.55 | Desi_Muna | akonadi server self test |
| 02:52.20 | Squidy | Ace2017_-: yes, it does... |
| 02:52.28 | [Tequila] | is there a way to log stuff on the clip board in a .txt ........ in bulk? ex if 15 links are on the clip board i can transfer it all in a txt .. or in real time? |
| 02:52.34 | Ace2017_- | whats your reason for not using mplayer? |
| 02:54.22 | Desi_Muna | how can i disable akonadi server self test ? |
| 02:54.49 | Desi_Muna | (Ace2017_-): do u know ? |
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| 02:55.22 | Squidy | I like mplayer.. but for some reason, when I'm watching a video, the kde4.2 screensaver appears (black screen).. I've aready configured the screensaver settings to OFF.. |
| 02:55.36 | Squidy | I just want to test xine instead of mplayer |
| 02:56.00 | Squidy | I know.. that's a poor reason.. =) |
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| 02:57.22 | Ace2017_- | Desi_Muna: have you tried looking in the forum? http://forum.kde.org/ |
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| 02:58.07 | Desi_Muna | yes i google it |
| 02:58.15 | Desi_Muna | got no solution :) |
| 02:58.24 | Ace2017_- | well you could always uninstall it |
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| 02:59.01 | Squidy | BTW, does anybody know why screensaver of kde 4.2 runs even setting that to does not execute? |
| 02:59.16 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: its not the screensaver |
| 03:00.04 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: is it display power control dimming the display? |
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| 03:00.17 | Ace2017_- | i mean making the display standby |
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| 03:01.38 | Squidy | I don't think so... I changed the 'blank screen' color |
| 03:01.44 | Squidy | of the screensaver |
| 03:02.21 | Squidy | to red.. and when i'm watching some film the display shows a red screen |
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| 03:05.14 | Ace2017_- | Squidy: have you tried: mplayer -heartbeat-cmd "xscreensaver-command -deactivate" filename? |
| 03:05.43 | Squidy | humm... not yet... |
| 03:05.44 | Squidy | :) |
| 03:06.38 | Squidy | Ace2017_-: thanks |
| 03:06.48 | Squidy | i'm going to try... |
| 03:07.26 | Ace2017_- | set the screensaver to 1 min and try |
| 03:08.15 | Squidy | ok |
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| 03:10.28 | yao_ziyuan1 | i miss kubuntu/kde3's kicker background very much. hope a kde4 plasma theme can revive it. |
| 03:11.02 | Ace2017_- | yao_ziyuan1: you can edit the svg file to create it |
| 03:11.28 | yao_ziyuan1 | . |
| 03:11.48 | yao_ziyuan1 | it's more than the background. |
| 03:12.02 | yao_ziyuan1 | also button appearance in kicker |
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| 03:12.14 | Ace2017_- | you can also edit that in the svg |
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| 03:13.29 | excalibas | how do I turn the system sound off? |
| 03:13.29 | Ace2017_- | yao_ziyuan1: can't find one you like on kde-look.org? |
| 03:13.42 | yao_ziyuan1 | which is prohibitively laborous... |
| 03:13.57 | yao_ziyuan1 | Ace2017_-: i try them all every two days |
| 03:14.24 | Ace2017_- | out of curiosity what did your old theme look like? |
| 03:15.32 | Ace2017_- | excalibas: what system sound? |
| 03:15.36 | yao_ziyuan1 | Ace2017_-: like kubuntu 7.10/8.04 |
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| 03:16.27 | yao_ziyuan1 | Ace2017_-: http://www.jason.mock.ws/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/gutsy_dolphin.png |
| 03:17.08 | yao_ziyuan1 | Ace2017_-: http://curves79lady.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/my-kubuntu-desktop1.png |
| 03:17.15 | excalibas | Ace2017_-, before there were no sounds, yesterday there was a sound when I closed my laptop. today there is no sound again... where do I control this? |
| 03:17.23 | Ace2017_- | so all objects have a transparent background |
| 03:17.46 | Ace2017_- | excalibas: systemsettings > Notifications |
| 03:18.19 | Ace2017_- | excalibas: systemsettings > Notifications > system notifications > player settings (tab) pick no sound output |
| 03:19.11 | excalibas | Ace2017_-, thanks |
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| 03:56.10 | omnydevi | greetings, i just installed kwlan on my main desktop computer with eth0 and wlan0. now trying to bring up anything i get a wpa supplicant can't be started and have no internet. any ideas? |
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| 04:11.00 | ScytheBlade1 | KDE 4.1, Fedora 10. Is there any reason why in the global keyboard shortcuts, ctrl+alt+print is "Not recognized by Qt" but ctrl+shift+print is? Is there any way to force the hotkey to ctrl+alt instead? |
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| 04:30.54 | purpleposeidon | That makes it about 3/4 less annoying. |
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| 04:34.18 | purpleposeidon | Netsplits aside, my question stands. |
| 04:34.33 | purpleposeidon | Still, uhm, unanswered. |
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| 04:35.25 | xlevel1 | hi, why would it be that one user can use desktop effects just fine, but another user gets an error message, when the both have the exact same ~/.kde ? |
| 04:38.26 | purpleposeidon | xlevel1: Are you running two X's at the same time? |
| 04:39.32 | xlevel1 | purpleposeidon: yes |
| 04:39.44 | xlevel1 | well, no |
| 04:39.47 | xlevel1 | two x sessions |
| 04:39.53 | xlevel1 | not two seperate Xs |
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| 04:40.43 | purpleposeidon | Same group membership? |
| 04:42.02 | purpleposeidon | (I was able to get rid of it by unlocking the widgets) |
| 04:43.14 | Paddy_EIRE | Hey would anyone know how to get flash to display correctly in konqueror kde 4.2? |
| 04:43.30 | purpleposeidon | switches to firefox... :P |
| 04:43.33 | Paddy_EIRE | I have a blank placeholder where the content shoulf be |
| 04:43.37 | Paddy_EIRE | *should |
| 04:43.49 | purpleposeidon | That happens to me half the time. And I don't think sound works either |
| 04:43.52 | Paddy_EIRE | I'd rather use Konqueror all the same |
| 04:43.59 | xlevel1 | purpleposeidon: same group membership? |
| 04:44.08 | xlevel1 | what do you mean by unlocking widgets? |
| 04:44.20 | purpleposeidon | xlevel1: /etc/group? |
| 04:44.41 | xlevel1 | what about it? |
| 04:44.43 | purpleposeidon | I doubt it'd change much of anything |
| 04:45.03 | purpleposeidon | Maybe one user's in a 'have_sexy_kde_effects' group and the other isn't, or something. |
| 04:45.15 | xlevel1 | uhhh... |
| 04:45.44 | Paddy_EIRE | this seems like an awful compromise.. it means I would have to install yet more kde 3/qt3 apps http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/ |
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| 04:48.52 | peaches | does setting default icon size for toolbar icons actually work for anybody? i have system default set to 16 but setting a toolbar to default puts it to 22 |
| 04:49.16 | purpleposeidon | On debiabuntu, there's the cli youtube-dl program which you can then use some external player to play the .flv file with |
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| 04:52.07 | deitarion | Paddy_EIRE: Flash 10 works perfectly well in Konqueror 4 for me at least 9 times out of 10. |
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| 05:09.02 | peaches | is bugs.kde.org really down |
| 05:09.29 | Denn | hi there, can anyone share some tips/tricks how to configure Nvidia drivers to work great witk KDE4(compositing effects)? The compositing effects work fine with no lag when there's only one or two apps are open, but when I open more apps it starts to lag, not being smooth. |
| 05:10.23 | deitarion | Denn: What GPU do you have? |
| 05:10.37 | Denn | Geforce 8800GTS |
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| 05:10.56 | Denn | Nvidia drivers 180.35 |
| 05:11.26 | deitarion | Hmm. I've never tried anything newer than 180.22, but 180.22 works great for me with my tweaks. |
| 05:11.49 | Denn | can you share what did you do to make it work fine? |
| 05:11.55 | deitarion | Yeah. One sec. |
| 05:12.13 | Denn | k |
| 05:12.40 | deitarion | I'll go to PM to avoid cluttering up the channel. |
| 05:12.56 | Denn | k |
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| 05:26.41 | call_me_K | yao_ziyuan1: depends on the distro, but it can be |
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| 05:28.00 | call_me_K | some distrobutions enjoy hacking apart both window managers and sewing them back together for reasons nobody knows |
| 05:28.29 | call_me_K | so you get KDE with some gnome components or vise versa |
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| 05:37.02 | NitZ | Does the update service in kde 4 does the same thing what yum update is for? |
| 05:37.34 | call_me_K | wow |
| 05:37.48 | NitZ | is it so? |
| 05:37.50 | call_me_K | seriously, never irc on the root account |
| 05:37.59 | NitZ | what? |
| 05:38.43 | call_me_K | do not use irc while logged in as root |
| 05:38.44 | Qu4Z | I'm guilty of that on occasion >_> Infrequently, though. |
| 05:38.54 | call_me_K | me too |
| 05:39.05 | call_me_K | mostly forget to su to a regular user |
| 05:39.06 | Qu4Z | It is good advice though. The man speaks true. |
| 05:40.08 | NitZ | yep |
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| 05:40.36 | call_me_K | not so much though anymore, I will do most of my administration in a root Konsole rather then firing up root's desktop |
| 05:40.43 | xenoterracide | so anyone know when kde4.2.1 is supposed to launch? |
| 05:41.05 | call_me_K | y'know, I just saw 4.1.4 is released |
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| 05:41.37 | xenoterracide | ? |
| 05:41.40 | call_me_K | I thought we dropkicked the 4.1 series forever in favor of 4.2 |
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| 05:41.54 | call_me_K | but no, 4.1 is still getting bugfix releases |
| 05:41.54 | xenoterracide | ? |
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| 05:42.22 | xenoterracide | I'm pretty sure that was released before 4.2 |
| 05:42.25 | call_me_K | http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1.4.php |
| 05:43.06 | call_me_K | when did 4.2 release again? |
| 05:43.12 | xenoterracide | you'll note http://kde.org/ show that is before 4.2 |
| 05:43.37 | xenoterracide | really wishes someone would fix my prtscrn button |
| 05:43.56 | call_me_K | ah, you're right |
| 05:44.04 | call_me_K | that was last month |
| 05:44.16 | xenoterracide | really wishes they hadn't said... they have a workaround... lets break that too |
| 05:44.19 | call_me_K | good, so that guy was high or something |
| 05:44.43 | xenoterracide | possibly |
| 05:44.46 | xenoterracide | probably |
| 05:44.52 | call_me_K | thought I was losing it for a sec |
| 05:45.09 | xenoterracide | or get's his info from oldnews.old |
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| 05:46.53 | call_me_K | last commit was feb 8th |
| 05:47.39 | call_me_K | that I can see anyway |
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| 05:50.02 | sugoi | oops, :) |
| 05:50.27 | xenoterracide | you might want liposucktion for your fingers |
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| 05:51.18 | call_me_K | lol |
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| 06:01.30 | mamr | is it possible for a normal user to mark bugs as duplicates within kde's bugtracker? |
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| 06:02.02 | call_me_K | never considered it really |
| 06:02.44 | call_me_K | you could very well try, the worst it will do is yell at you for not having the appropriate privleges |
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| 06:04.59 | olskolirc | hello, I'm on Intrepid kubuntu. how do I upgrade from kde to kde 4.2 what is the repository please? |
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| 06:05.36 | mamr | call_me_K: but I don't find any button ;) |
| 06:06.11 | mamr | olskolirc: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 |
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| 06:06.17 | call_me_K | mamr: guess not then |
| 06:06.25 | dboehmer | hi |
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| 06:06.35 | dboehmer | how to convert my kde data from 4.1 to 4.2? |
| 06:06.37 | olskolirc | thanks i got it mamr |
| 06:06.46 | dboehmer | i have just switched to another distro with 4.2 |
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| 06:07.01 | dboehmer | but i won't be able to use the system as long as my data is missing |
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| 06:07.21 | call_me_K | the kde configurations should be the same |
| 06:07.30 | dboehmer | i copied all .kde to ~ |
| 06:07.42 | dboehmer | well, my new system saves everything under .kde4 |
| 06:07.45 | call_me_K | .kde4 also? |
| 06:07.49 | dboehmer | should i copy .kde to .kde4? |
| 06:07.53 | dboehmer | i have no old .kde4... |
| 06:08.10 | call_me_K | really? |
| 06:08.17 | call_me_K | 4.1 should have it |
| 06:09.03 | dboehmer | it is definitely not there |
| 06:09.40 | call_me_K | it does |
| 06:09.49 | call_me_K | this machine is running 4.1.3 |
| 06:10.19 | olskolirc | can someone just give me the repository line to put in my sources.lst? Ive been getting the run around for an hour and i really have to go |
| 06:10.29 | dboehmer | i dont care if it is on your machine -- my old kubuntu 8.10 does not create it |
| 06:10.36 | olskolirc | I'm all set just give me the repository line and let me upgrade to 4.2 |
| 06:11.58 | call_me_K | why not ask #kubuntu? |
| 06:14.23 | olskolirc | nobody is ever there call_me_K think you wanna look in your repository and copy and paste that for me? |
| 06:14.48 | purpleposeidon | Nobody is ever in #kubuntu? Wow. |
| 06:15.08 | olskolirc | no, they aren't purpleposeidon |
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| 06:15.28 | purpleposeidon | "Patience, young grasshopper"??? |
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| 06:17.28 | call_me_K | look in my openSUSE configurations for my kubuntu repositories? |
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| 06:18.06 | call_me_K | hunts for a Rick Ashtley video URLon youtube |
| 06:18.56 | mamr | olskolirc: the repository line is here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2-rc1 |
| 06:19.24 | purpleposeidon | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main |
| 06:20.08 | call_me_K | lol @ part message |
| 06:20.41 | purpleposeidon | Rick Astley for Senator |
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| 06:39.07 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 06:41.07 | HollowPoint | hey folks, anyone know a lot about KDE4 Bluetooth? |
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| 06:52.29 | moebob24 | ok i have a small problem. I just installed KDE-for-Windows 4.2. And now i need to uninstall it but I cannot find where to uninstall. I am running out of space on my hard drive due to some photo editing and i need this out now! |
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| 07:04.18 | moebob24 | I have a problem. I just installed KDE-for-Windows 4.2....and now I need to uninstall it but i cant find that option anywhere. I need the whole thing out ASAP. I am running low on hard drive space and need it out. |
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| 07:08.01 | dbenoot | moebob24: it used to be via the installer (start it, deselect stuff, run it), but maybe you should ask in #kde-windows |
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| 07:16.40 | HollowPoint | anyone here that knows about Bluetooth in KDE4 yet? |
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| 07:18.44 | hyper_ch | in kde 4.2 is there a way to save dolphin's current state so that when I re-open dolphin that it will have the same tabs and locations open? |
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| 07:21.52 | ganymede | if i move files between two partitions repeatedly, there is an almost 0 chance that they'll eventually get corrupted right? like file integrity is ensured by checksumming while moving or something, right? |
| 07:21.52 | thiago_home | HollowPoint: it's not there yet |
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| 07:22.07 | thiago_home | there's no checksumming |
| 07:22.24 | thiago_home | moving the file increases the chance of corrupting it, as opposed to leaving it alone |
| 07:22.34 | ganymede | thiago, how can i ensure that the underlying media didn't accidentally flip a bit while transferring somewhere along the way? |
| 07:22.40 | HollowPoint | not there yet? As in it just doesn't work? |
| 07:22.54 | Shaan7 | thiago_home: but bluetooth does work for me on kde 4.2 |
| 07:23.21 | ganymede | thiago, i ask here because i'm using cut and paste in konqueror rather than mv or something, and i wanted to know what steps KDE takes to ensure file integrity when moving |
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| 07:23.39 | ganymede | or the underlying operating system (linux) for that matter |
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| 07:25.23 | thiago_home | Shaan7: then it's something else |
| 07:25.28 | peaches | will konqueror ever get settings profiles? |
| 07:25.29 | thiago_home | ganymede: you can't. |
| 07:25.45 | thiago_home | KDE doesn't ensure integrity while moving |
| 07:25.57 | thiago_home | it simply copies the same bytes out |
| 07:25.58 | Shaan7 | thiago_home: ok :) |
| 07:26.07 | thiago_home | if there are no abnormal conditions, the file should be the same |
| 07:26.20 | thiago_home | if there's a RAM chip problem or if the device has a problem, it may corrupt the file |
| 07:26.40 | ganymede | thiago, in that case, what is the probability (order of magnitide) that a well-functioning modern hard disk drive will write a wrong bit? |
| 07:26.51 | hyper_ch | ganymede: you could rsync from one location to the other |
| 07:27.00 | thiago_home | ganymede: very, very low |
| 07:27.15 | thiago_home | I don't know what the order of magnitude is |
| 07:27.29 | thiago_home | however, I've never ever seen a healthy system produce corruption |
| 07:27.36 | ganymede | so i can copy 50 gigs to and from a partition four times and expect them to be fine? |
| 07:27.45 | thiago_home | whenever I've seen corruption, the HD had already notified the system that it was dying |
| 07:27.55 | thiago_home | or the RAM chips were faulty (use memtest) |
| 07:27.58 | ganymede | okay, thanks for the info, i'll be sure to watch my smart logs |
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| 07:28.14 | ganymede | yeah, once i had a trashed file system because i put a bad RAM chip in |
| 07:28.36 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 07:28.46 | thiago_home | I once noticed my CDs were being burnt with corruption |
| 07:29.01 | thiago_home | the burning verification noticed that |
| 07:29.43 | thiago_home | and a bit-by-bit comparison indicated that it was always a cleared bit at a file position N * 4096 bytes + the same offset |
| 07:29.59 | thiago_home | since 4096 bytes is the size of a memory page, I ran memtest |
| 07:30.34 | thiago_home | that showed that there was *one* bit in 256 MB that cleared itself if it was set |
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| 07:31.03 | hyper_ch | in kde 4.2 is there a way to save dolphin's current state so that when I re-open dolphin that it will have the same tabs and locations open? |
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| 07:31.11 | thiago_home | hyper_ch: you've already asked that |
| 07:31.30 | hyper_ch | thiago_home: some new people have joined and there was no ansewr this far |
| 07:31.46 | thiago_home | no answer indicates no one knows |
| 07:32.11 | hyper_ch | thiago_home: well, only those people maybe don't know that were in here before |
| 07:32.13 | thiago_home | there are 357 people now. What's the likelihood that one of those who joined in the past 10 minutes knows the answer? |
| 07:32.15 | tije | Not to butt in, but I think the FS and VFS layer should ensure data integrity rather than a user program. |
| 07:32.32 | hyper_ch | thiago_home: how many of them are jus idling? |
| 07:32.44 | thiago_home | hyper_ch: exactly. So please don't repeat in so short intervals |
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| 07:35.36 | ganymede | thiago_home, hmm...and memtest only test system RAM but if hard drive cache is bad, that could also corrupt a FS, right? |
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| 08:36.00 | ultrav1olet | after logging in on many websites Konq (4.2.0) jumps to a domain.com:[80|443]/path url - it's quite irritating. Is it a known bug? |
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| 08:47.01 | jihi | good morning |
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| 08:53.18 | jihi | Konqueror and Krusader seem not to remember my sftp password. When i want to change the directory or copy a file, everytime this authorization dialog pop up. I only have to push return, because the saved password is correct, but why does this dialog always come up? any idea? |
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| 08:55.13 | ultrav1olet | jihi: have you enanbled Kwallet? |
| 08:55.28 | jihi | ultrav1olet: yes |
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| 09:06.14 | JackWinter | when i try to open a konsole session in kde 4.2 i get a box titled Sorry - Plasma Workspace saying: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/konsole'. but the konsole does open normally |
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| 09:23.08 | kaushal | hi |
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| 09:23.33 | kaushal | ? |
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| 09:24.01 | kaushal | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/pppd-errors-out-with-exit-status-17-329863/ |
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| 09:44.23 | panesar_sandeep | is there a way to use kde apps on windows?? |
| 09:44.36 | panesar_sandeep | like kmymoney |
| 09:45.28 | thiago | yes |
| 09:45.29 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: There's at least a couple ways to use KDE apps on Windows. |
| 09:45.33 | thiago | get the windows version of those applications |
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| 09:46.35 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: KDE4 has been being ported to Windows and Mac OS, or you can run the Linux versions in a VM under Windows. There's prolly other ways also that I have not thought of off the top of my head. |
| 09:46.36 | panesar_sandeep | tsk: i wish to convert kmymoney to windows app so dat people using windows be able to test it and know the power of opensource |
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| 09:47.07 | panesar_sandeep | tsk : so what do u suggest |
| 09:47.23 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: If I were you, I'd check out the KDE on Windows project and see if the apps you are interested in are already ported to native Windows KDE versions yet. |
| 09:47.56 | panesar_sandeep | tsk : i hv checked, kmymoney is not on windows |
| 09:48.47 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: Then you could certainly try running them in a small virtual machine devoted to the apps you wish to showcase. That's another fairly simple way to use Linux apps under Windows. :) |
| 09:49.49 | panesar_sandeep | tsk: k thnx 4 the advice, but i think i will just try to replace kde coding in the source by windows coding |
| 09:49.54 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: Some of the more recent virtual machine programs allow you to run in a mode where the windows of the VM apps are mixed in among the native Windows apps as if they were also native Windows apps. :) |
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| 09:50.06 | panesar_sandeep | tsk: thnx :) |
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| 09:50.48 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: Or if you are a skilled coder, then of course you could always contribute to the KDE on Windows project by porting any apps that you were wishing for that aren't yet being ported. ;) |
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| 09:51.06 | TSK | I'm sure the KDE devs would appreciate the help. :) |
| 09:51.42 | panesar_sandeep | tsk: k, i'm currently preparing for that, thank u |
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| 09:52.26 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: Sweet. I look forward to it. I have at least a few Windows using friends who'd greatly appreciate a fine program like KMyMoney finding it's way to Windows. ;) |
| 09:52.38 | panesar_sandeep | :) |
| 09:53.30 | TSK | Personally, I'm happy using Linux, but some of my friends are hardcore gamers and refuse to give up Windows until all their favorite games find their way to Linux (which may not happen for a while yet...) ;) |
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| 09:55.09 | panesar_sandeep | tsk : thats the only drawback in linux, inabilty to play high end games |
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| 09:55.45 | panesar_sandeep | tsk : i'm using windows for the same reason, i use kubuntu, ubuntu and fedora on vm |
| 09:55.59 | TSK | BTW, once again I'd like to say to any KDE devs who may be in the channel that the latest version of KDE4 I've tried is leaps and bounds ahead of the last time I looked at it. Keep up the great work. It's finally nearly reached a point that I can seriously consider replacing KDE3 with it permanently. (Just a few little stability issues with a couple of apps and I'm ready to make the switch.) :) |
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| 09:56.54 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: Personally, I only play a few games these days and they all come in native Linux versions. Mostly Quake III engine based games. :) |
| 09:57.17 | Tuju | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.24 | TSK | I used to be addicted to EverQuest, but since I got sick of it, there's no longer anything really tying me to Windows anymore. :) |
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| 09:57.44 | TSK | goes to take a peek at Tuju's paste. |
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| 09:59.06 | TSK | Tuju: I'm not sure about that one, sorry. I recently had a little issue getting Akonadi started, but once I got it all configured to talk to my database it started up just fine for me. |
| 09:59.49 | Tuju | TSK: thanks for looking. I suspect that it might have something to do with my nfs home. |
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| 10:00.29 | TSK | Tuju: Ah, that might make sense. I'm not sure how sockets work on NFS volumes as I've never really used NFS as yet. |
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| 10:01.06 | panesar_sandeep_ | :how do u imploy reverse programming/engineering on windows applications |
| 10:01.12 | TSK | Tuju: Someone here is likely more knowlegable than me about it tho. :) |
| 10:01.31 | Tuju | TSK: yeah, let's wait and see :) |
| 10:02.25 | panesar_sandeep_ | :how do u imploy reverse programming/engineering on windows applications |
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| 10:03.50 | TSK | panesar_sandeep: That's a question which might get a better answer in a Windows coding related channel. ;) |
| 10:04.28 | panesar_sandeep_ | ok |
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| 10:05.33 | ALEXJONES | Hi. |
| 10:06.10 | ALEXJONES | This is not AJ. Look, you might say I have been watching "too much" Alex Jones. |
| 10:06.41 | ALEXJONES | My "problem" if there is one is that I can't shake this feeling that I am surrounded by seas and seas of complete tools. |
| 10:07.07 | Qu4Z | ALEXJONES: You are. |
| 10:07.08 | pinotree | ??? |
| 10:07.13 | ALEXJONES | I don't see you as people per se. I just see the exploitation. The brainwashing. The SOMETHING BIG MISSING from your perceptions. |
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| 10:08.38 | TSK | Wow... That was surely bizarre... |
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| 10:33.43 | rohityadav | ?? |
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| 11:35.56 | floitsch | hi. could someone please help me. My plasma won't start anymore... |
| 11:36.26 | floitsch | is there an easy way to reset the configuration ...? |
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| 11:40.17 | peaches_ | floitsch: is the executable plasma or plasma-desktop |
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| 12:16.23 | LukasT | Hello, can you anybody tell me how do I use audiocd:/ to rip mp3s? I entered it in dolphin and now what? |
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| 12:21.33 | pinotree | drag the files to any location you want |
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| 12:31.19 | floitsch | peaches_: i think it's plasma |
| 12:31.24 | floitsch | that's what i launch at least |
| 12:31.44 | floitsch | yep. plasma. (just did a ps) |
| 12:32.01 | Moult | floitsch: it's going to be changed to plasma-desktop in 4.3 |
| 12:32.10 | floitsch | ok. i'm still at 4.2 |
| 12:32.23 | floitsch | what's its configuration file? |
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| 12:32.41 | Moult | floitsch: ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc or plasmarc |
| 12:32.43 | nondysjunction | Hello. |
| 12:33.09 | nondysjunction | I am trying to add electricsheep as a KDE4 screensaver. I am sure I just need to place a .desktop somewhere, probably? My question is where! |
| 12:33.50 | floitsch | Moult: thx. I'll have a look at it. (did not find it, cause I have a .kde too) |
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| 12:35.08 | Tuju | btw, i have noticed that moving an item in bookmark editor (dragging it with mouse) actually makes a copy and doesn't remove the moved from old location. which is quite annoying. |
| 12:35.22 | Tuju | same happens in konqueror and kdesvn. |
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| 12:38.14 | floitsch | Moult: thx again. plasma-appletsrc did it. |
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| 12:42.04 | Moult | floitsch: np |
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| 12:43.06 | nondysjunction | m |
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| 12:45.05 | nondysjunction | Erm, where do you put .desktops for kscreensaver? |
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| 13:13.36 | pete801 | Hi All, i would like to setup a KDE menu for an CLI tool |
| 13:13.52 | pete801 | the link should open konsole |
| 13:13.53 | pete801 | execute it |
| 13:13.58 | pete801 | and return back the shell prompt |
| 13:14.13 | pete801 | when i am using kde menu editor, it is getting displayed |
| 13:14.29 | pete801 | but not getting the shell prompt due to which i have to close the window - no other option |
| 13:14.39 | pete801 | can someone guide me? |
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| 13:15.40 | nondysjunction | I am trying to add electricsheep as a KDE4 screensaver. I am sure I just need to place a .desktop somewhere, probably? My question is where! |
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| 13:58.17 | DDevine | .desktop are application launchers. |
| 13:58.28 | DDevine | you don't need a .desktop for a screensaver. |
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| 13:58.38 | DDevine | ...at least I don't think so. |
| 13:58.56 | k0opa | how I can reset my kwallet? |
| 13:59.02 | k0opa | I forgot my password |
| 13:59.21 | DDevine | right click some stuff and try the settings menu. |
| 13:59.24 | DDevine | lol |
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| 14:00.37 | DDevine | Ok I have a real answer now. |
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| 14:01.13 | DDevine | Actually, what version of KDE are you running? |
| 14:01.26 | k0opa | me? |
| 14:01.29 | k0opa | I run kde3 |
| 14:01.35 | k0opa | and I want to reset my kwallet |
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| 14:10.05 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 14:10.27 | DDevine | .desktop holds no screensaver! adding this file will do nothing. |
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| 14:11.09 | k0opa | Aa now I found it :) |
| 14:13.04 | DDevine | nondysjunction: What distribution are you using? |
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| 14:16.14 | DDevine | nondysjunction: I have looked at the screensaver you are trying to install and I know how to install it. |
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| 14:25.07 | nondysjunction | DDevine: and how is that? |
| 14:25.24 | DDevine | I'm capped just now, so it will take me a a few minutes to download the 8.8MB of dependencies. I'm going to install the screensaver. |
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| 14:26.31 | dereine | hi is it possible to show only icons in the window-list plasmoid? |
| 14:27.33 | DDevine | nondysjunction: What do you mean? |
| 14:28.01 | DDevine | nondysjunction: I need to know what distribution you are using before I can suggest what you need to do to install it. |
| 14:28.14 | nondysjunction | DDevine: electricsheep resources say to add a .desktop to $KDEPREFIX/share/applnk/System/ScreenSavers, the KDE4 equivalent of which looks to be share/services/kde4/ScreenSavers. |
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| 14:28.33 | nondysjunction | But I'm not fluent in KDE4, yet. |
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| 14:30.28 | nondysjunction | DDevine: http://bugs.gentoo.org/256338 -- Still sure I don't need a .desktop file? |
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| 14:30.54 | heiner | I'm using KDE 4.2. How can I get my desktop icons back? |
| 14:31.00 | DDevine | BUT WHAT DISTRIBUTION ARE YOU USING!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:31.16 | DDevine | Are you using Ubuntu, Fedora, SuSE, Gentoo... |
| 14:32.08 | heiner | Debian 5.0 |
| 14:32.09 | nondysjunction | It looks like you had a capslock malfunction there, DDevine. |
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| 14:32.46 | heiner | More precisely: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ experimental main |
| 14:32.52 | cb400f | heiner: right click on desktop -> appearance settings -> under "activity" select "Folderview" .. that'll give you the win95 desktop icons back |
| 14:32.52 | heiner | (from /etc/apt/sources.list) |
| 14:33.09 | DDevine | heiner: I wasn't yelling at you btw. |
| 14:33.15 | heiner | cb400f: I don't have "activity" as an option |
| 14:33.38 | DDevine | You should. I do. |
| 14:33.39 | heiner | DDevine: hey, if you can't stand the heat don't enter the kitchen ;-) |
| 14:33.45 | cb400f | sure you do.. on the top there's a combo box for "desktop activity" |
| 14:34.18 | heiner | Right-click on the desktop background? |
| 14:34.20 | DDevine | heiner: This guy refuses to tell me which distribution I am supposed to be helping him with. |
| 14:34.27 | heiner | I see |
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| 14:34.34 | DDevine | I'm assuming Gentoo... |
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| 14:34.52 | DDevine | In that case I think the KDE prefix is /usr by default. |
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| 14:35.56 | nondysjunction | Moreso like, this guy doesn't respond to rude people, even if he is seeking help. :) |
| 14:36.09 | rioderelfte | DDevine: this depends on the use flags :) |
| 14:36.21 | heiner | cb400f: I see the following options: Run Command / Add Widgets / Add Panel / Lock Widgets / Appearance settings / Lock Screen / Leave |
| 14:36.32 | DDevine | yeah, but by default i think it is /usr |
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| 14:36.53 | cb400f | heiner: exactly.. like I said.. appearance settings -> set acitivity to folderview |
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| 14:37.43 | DDevine | Did he leave? I didn't mean to be that rude. I was just frustrated that he wouldn't answer the most basic of questions. |
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| 14:38.25 | heiner | cb400f: there is "Desktop Activity", but in the "Type" selection field I only have "Desktop" - nothing else |
| 14:38.50 | cb400f | hrmpf.. then you need to ask in a debian kde channel |
| 14:38.56 | heiner | maybe I need to install a package? |
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| 14:39.18 | DDevine | hmm... strange that you don't have the Folder View option. |
| 14:39.42 | heiner | I found a "plasma-applet-folderview" package, which I'm in the process of installing |
| 14:40.09 | DDevine | I'm not sure if that is what you need but it sounds ok... |
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| 14:40.18 | DDevine | can't hurt :) |
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| 14:40.39 | heiner | hehe, now I have the "Folder View" type ;-) |
| 14:41.04 | DDevine | Works? |
| 14:41.10 | heiner | fantastic, it works again. Thank you cb400f, DDevine |
| 14:41.18 | DDevine | You did most of the work. |
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| 14:41.48 | heiner | sometimes the right hint or idea is missing |
| 14:42.38 | DDevine | Yeah. I found that when I was on a debian based system that if it seems to be missing something you just do apt-cache search and try to find it. |
| 14:42.39 | MrHeavy_ | I'm running KDE 4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10. Does anyone have any idea how my widget style could keep getting mysteriously reset from QtCurve to Oxygen in the middle of a session? |
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| 14:43.14 | tommy``` | hi |
| 14:43.30 | tommy``` | do you know if kde4 is fully sup on 1680x1050 res? |
| 14:43.34 | DDevine | (typical ubuntu) - but that is odd. Let me google that for you lol. |
| 14:43.51 | MrHeavy_ | I've got no problems with KDE 4.2 on 2x1680x1050 |
| 14:44.19 | MrHeavy_ | I can't imagine what could go into KDE that would assume a 4:3 aspect ratio |
| 14:44.29 | heiner | tommy```: I'm using it with 1600x1200 pixels |
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| 14:44.41 | tommy``` | MrHeavy_: take a snapshot of your desktop please :D |
| 14:44.51 | MrHeavy_ | Why's that |
| 14:44.58 | DDevine | tommy```: The question is- is your graphics card and monitor capable of that resolution. If so do you have your video driver installed and configured correctly. |
| 14:45.09 | tommy``` | MrHeavy_: only for curiosity |
| 14:45.18 | MrHeavy_ | My desktop has notes with company information on it :/ |
| 14:45.26 | MrHeavy_ | Too lazy to switch containments |
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| 14:45.45 | tommy``` | DDevine: I've intel dual core 6600 @ 2.40ghz, RAM 2GB, geforce 8600 GTS 512MB |
| 14:46.04 | DDevine | What about your monitor? |
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| 14:46.21 | DDevine | Your grapics card seems fine (and should work well once you have the right driver) |
| 14:46.26 | tommy``` | ( Monitor ) ( Type: Monitor Plug and Play ) :::: ( UPP ) :::: |
| 14:46.36 | DDevine | No, the model. |
| 14:46.44 | tommy``` | DDevine: it's a Samsung 223BW |
| 14:46.46 | tommy``` | 22'' |
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| 14:46.50 | DDevine | ok i'll google it |
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| 14:47.28 | DDevine | Just have to eliminate this as a problem first. |
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| 14:48.24 | DDevine | Resolution 1680 x 1050 |
| 14:48.28 | tommy``` | yes |
| 14:48.47 | DDevine | ok. So - I'm guessing it is xorg.conf problem |
| 14:49.21 | tommy``` | ? |
| 14:49.27 | DDevine | So in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf, down near the bottom in the monitors section does it have the 1680 x 1050 mode? |
| 14:49.45 | tommy``` | ah no no, i haven't installed yet, I'm only curious |
| 14:50.00 | DDevine | Oh. well you are going to need the nvidia driver :) |
| 14:50.03 | DDevine | that's all. |
| 14:50.24 | DDevine | I reccommend usign the newest driver from the Nvidia site instead of the ubuntu packages. |
| 14:50.46 | DDevine | It usually automatically configures it perfectly. |
| 14:50.52 | tommy``` | I know there is a utility that seek for your device and and kernel-headers in auto |
| 14:51.14 | DDevine | ummm... what? |
| 14:51.17 | tommy``` | it's a script |
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| 14:52.09 | DDevine | Don't bother with it dude. Just "apt-get install build-essential", close the X server and "sh ./NVIDIA-DRIVER....bin" |
| 14:52.11 | tommy``` | I don't remember name but I search |
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| 14:54.10 | DDevine | There is also a how-to for installing the official nvidia driver on the Ubuntu forums. |
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| 14:54.24 | Guest28149 | ^^ |
| 14:54.27 | DDevine | I haven't used ubuntu for a bit so I'm not all up to date. |
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| 14:54.57 | tommy``` | DDevine do you have Kubuntu ? |
| 14:55.03 | DDevine | nope. |
| 14:55.11 | DDevine | I'm on Fedora 10 at the moment. |
| 14:56.38 | tommy``` | I'm afraid about kubuntu, i think crash... better ubuntu |
| 14:57.05 | DDevine | Kubuntu is crap IMO. |
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| 14:57.18 | DDevine | and I think I just offended half of this channel. |
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| 14:57.36 | DrSlony | Help, I used to have kde-4.1.4 and 3.5.10 on my gentoo but I removed all traces of them and then installed KDE-4.2 and I logged into a new clean home dir. kwin crashes a lot and there are other problems, e.g. the system tray shows 3 boxes but there are no icons in the boxes. Where do I start fixing this? |
| 14:57.38 | tommy``` | I've notice lot of crash using kubuntu |
| 14:57.45 | cb400f | DDevine: they hired another kde developer today ;-) |
| 14:58.04 | cb400f | so maybe there's hope for them |
| 14:58.29 | DDevine | cb400f: I do like how much money canonical is spending on Linux and the desktop. |
| 14:59.15 | DDevine | I don't dislike canonical/ubuntu... I just think Ubuntu is overrated and Kubuntu was crap last time i used it (8.04 or 7.10) |
| 15:00.11 | DDevine | Eh. In the end that's what's pulling new users to Linux so I'm happy there is a community that specialises in helping those people. |
| 15:00.55 | DeadFishMan | DDevine: I have to agree. And it is a shame when I see people recommending Kubuntu for newbies looking for a KDE-based distro. |
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| 15:01.12 | DDevine | Kubuntu is a world of pain. |
| 15:01.20 | DrSlony | why? |
| 15:01.36 | DDevine | I used to say that about Fedora - but I found Fedora 10 REALLY good. |
| 15:01.47 | DrSlony | why is kubuntu a pain? |
| 15:01.55 | DeadFishMan | DrSlony: There are a bunch of Ubuntu-specific patches that break Kubuntu is ways not seen in any other distro in this planet. |
| 15:02.03 | DDevine | I'm still suprised that I am using Fedora now considering how much I used to dispise it. |
| 15:02.23 | DDevine | Kubuntu is patchy - and doesn't "just work" |
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| 15:02.35 | DeadFishMan | DrSlony: It was painful trying to build from source any KDE app in Kubuntu, for starters |
| 15:02.45 | DrSlony | DeadFishMan oho, then which kde distro should i recommend to newbies? |
| 15:02.49 | bonsaikitten | mmh, distro flaming :) |
| 15:03.03 | DrSlony | bonsaikitten : experience not flaming (yet) :] |
| 15:03.06 | bonsaikitten | DrSlony: maybe OpenSuse, but I'll let others comment on that |
| 15:03.19 | DDevine | Let's not go there. PCLinux OS does a nice KDE 3 though I have to say - and OpenSUSE does KDE well. |
| 15:03.25 | DeadFishMan | DrSlony: SimplyMEPIS does a better job as a KDE distro for newbies, IMHO. But I haven't used that lately. |
| 15:03.27 | bonsaikitten | but kubuntu was very disappointing to me (not the kde produced by upstream!) |
| 15:03.38 | DDevine | Yeah actually - MEPIS or OpenSUSE. |
| 15:03.49 | DrSlony | strange thing about my problem is that after several crashes and resets, so far kwin hasnt crashed for an hour. But my system tray is still garbled, and also my screen goes blank (like in power management) the moment I log it... |
| 15:03.50 | cb400f | mepis is kde3 isn't it? |
| 15:03.51 | DrSlony | *log in |
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| 15:04.22 | DDevine | Fedora does KDE good as well. |
| 15:04.30 | cb400f | votes for openSUSE or Mandriva |
| 15:04.48 | DrSlony | I used to try the "KDE4 Live" (or was it "KDE-Four") CDs, I think they were OpenSUSE, but they were very buggy... on the other hand kde4 was generally very buggy back then. |
| 15:05.03 | DDevine | KDE 4.2 isn't in Fedora's main repository yet but once you get it in it works well. |
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| 15:05.25 | DrSlony | so, if I may copypasta: |
| 15:05.28 | DrSlony | Help, I used to have kde-4.1.4 and 3.5.10 on my gentoo but I removed all traces of them and then installed KDE-4.2 and I logged into a new clean home dir. kwin crashes a lot and there are other problems, e.g. the system tray shows 3 boxes but there are no icons in the boxes. Where do I start fixing this? |
| 15:05.32 | DDevine | But Fedora isn't a good noob distro IMO. |
| 15:05.34 | DeadFishMan | cb400f: I think so. Warren is, for some reason, against the idea of moving to KDE 4, but he might have a good point there. MEPIS simply don't have the manpower to keep their own KDE packages... IT is simply too much. I think that he is probably waiting for it to land at least in testing - MEPIS is based off Debian stable - before dipping into KDE 4 waters... |
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| 15:06.37 | DeadFishMan | cb400f: I'm using KDE 4.2 in unstable/experimental myself and I like it. |
| 15:06.40 | DDevine | I haven't run Debain on the desktop (it's great for server though) - but I hear getting KDE4 on debian is easy enough. |
| 15:06.53 | cb400f | also I think mepis is a bit anglo-centric.. but it's good to have distros that actually intend to work and be stable, and not just toys for geeks |
| 15:07.12 | pinotree | what about moving this discussion to #kde-chat, as written in /topic? |
| 15:08.09 | DeadFishMan | cb400f: Yeah, you're right. And that was a problem in my case as English is not my native language and my family had to use the computer, too. But it wasn't too hard to tweak things so that I could use an English desktop while my family used theirs in our native language |
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| 15:08.12 | pinotree | DrSlony: sounds like a partial kde installation, worth asking in #gentoo-kde |
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| 15:08.28 | DeadFishMan | pinotree: Sorry for the off-topic! |
| 15:08.36 | DrSlony | pinotree yes it was partial, 3 sets and the rest I chose, I asked there but its dead. |
| 15:08.52 | DrSlony | I would assume a default kde-4.2 installation on a clean home dir wouldnt crash :( |
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| 15:09.11 | pinotree | ... unless if splitted insanely, like on gentoo |
| 15:09.31 | Sput | pfft, KDE on gentoo is quite stable :P |
| 15:09.52 | DDevine | DrSlony: I think you need some Gentoo pros to help you with that. |
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| 15:10.07 | Sput | DrSlony: in which case #gentoo-kde would be the appropriate venue |
| 15:10.42 | DrSlony | mhm |
| 15:10.49 | DDevine | If Fedora 11 doesn't do it for me I'll be moving to Gentoo I think. Offtopic. |
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| 15:13.24 | tommy``` | cisco router are shit. |
| 15:13.49 | DDevine | tommy```: I heard they were pretty decent - but explain. (curious) |
| 15:13.58 | pinotree | #kde-chat please |
| 15:14.06 | tommy``` | i'm only jokin DDevine |
| 15:14.15 | DDevine | yea, in the chat channel :) |
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| 15:16.03 | nondysjunction | hello |
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| 15:17.55 | DDevine | I didn't mean to be rude before. |
| 15:18.06 | DDevine | I'm sorry I got frustrated too easily. |
| 15:18.30 | nondysjunction | :) |
| 15:18.37 | nondysjunction | s'ok, no worries. |
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| 15:45.13 | Slimer | Hey folks - I was hoping somebody could help me get plasma working again. Last night it ran fine. Today (when I am using my external LCD monitor) plasma crashes at startup and can't be re-run. KDE 4.2.something on opensuse 11.1 |
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| 15:49.24 | Slimer | bbiam, have to restart kde |
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| 15:50.00 | digit | how does one change the the panel-hiding button colour/graphic? |
| 15:50.12 | digit | how does one change the the panel-hiding button colour/graphic? (im in kde3.5) |
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| 15:56.13 | digit | those pesky boue arrows are the only thing left that doesnt fit with my theme |
| 15:56.19 | digit | blue* |
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| 15:57.18 | Moult | digit: there is a panel hiding button? |
| 15:57.26 | Moult | digit: which KDE version? |
| 15:57.33 | digit | im in 3.5 |
| 15:57.44 | digit | u can switch the panel hide buttons quite easily... |
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| 15:57.51 | Moult | oh alright 3.5 |
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| 15:58.39 | digit | right click panel, configure, hiding, ... but theres no obvious option in the gui to change the graphics |
| 15:59.05 | Moult | digit: and i shouldn't think there would be either. |
| 15:59.25 | Moult | digit: if you're lucky you can find the graphic file. ask your distro where it stores things |
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| 16:18.46 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 16:19.05 | jbrouault | hi |
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| 16:20.48 | jbrouault | krfb is normally compatible with vnc viewer, no ? |
| 16:20.58 | Sho_ | yes |
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| 16:21.10 | Sho_ | krfb uses libvncserver, fwiw |
| 16:21.26 | Sho_ | which is essentially the same code as in x11vnc |
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| 16:22.00 | jbrouault | i tried using it today but i have display problems |
| 16:22.03 | jbrouault | i can connect |
| 16:22.30 | jbrouault | but the display in client isn't updated |
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| 16:23.03 | jbrouault | and if i look at the pc running krfb i can see the mouse moving |
| 16:23.10 | allquixotic | Is there any way to get Kopete to endlessly attempt to reconnect to my IM services? it keeps getting disconnected but I have to manually tell it to reconnect. |
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| 16:24.07 | jbrouault | it's as if krfb were taking a screenshot of my screen when i launch it and didn't send other images after... |
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| 16:46.20 | Progon | Hello! I have a problem with kontact. Kontact is in full screen mode. But I have no idea how to switch back to window mode. I have tried many things... Any idea? |
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| 16:47.27 | Ace2017_- | Progon: alt+f3 > Advanced > Fullscreen |
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| 16:48.13 | Progon | alt f3 does not work |
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| 16:50.16 | Progon | *g* now i know hot to switch to full screen mode, but the other thing does not work... because i do not have a title bar |
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| 16:51.04 | Ace2017_- | you need to run kwin --replace |
| 16:51.08 | Ace2017_- | i think your kwin has crashed |
| 16:51.45 | Ace2017_- | and make sure alt+f3 > Advanced > No Border is unchecked |
| 16:52.08 | Progon | i run compiz with kde |
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| 16:55.01 | Progon | now it works |
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| 17:05.46 | nondysjunction | KDE4, kopete notifications will crash plasma if I click them, every single time. Anyone encountered this? |
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| 17:14.34 | Legend | Can anyone tell me how to change the gnome theme from kde? |
| 17:14.45 | Legend | I can't seem to find the theme manager in gnome-control-center. |
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| 17:26.31 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 17:26.34 | digit | what are the graphics files for the panel-hiding button called by default? (kde3.5) |
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| 17:38.14 | Muzer | Why is there no way to set a wallpaper so you see 100% of the image undistorted? I'm fine with black bars around the edge, but all options either stretch it, or crop the top and bottom off on my widescreen monitor. |
| 17:38.22 | Muzer | This seems to me like a big oversight |
| 17:38.35 | Muzer | Unless there is one in 4.2 (stupid Kubuntu) |
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| 17:39.30 | Sho_ | Muzer: There's "Scaled, keep proportions" in my 4.2.0 |
| 17:39.48 | Muzer | ah, that must be KDE4.1's fault then |
| 17:39.56 | Sho_ | yeah, it was probably added after 4.1 |
| 17:40.00 | Muzer | does it work perfectly on Kubuntu if I were to download the .deb package? |
| 17:40.02 | Muzer | anyone know? |
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| 17:40.40 | Half-Left | Kubuntu should be much different in that respect |
| 17:40.46 | Half-Left | shouldn't* |
| 17:41.12 | Half-Left | From what I've seen anyway |
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| 17:42.08 | Muzer | meh, I'll wait for Kubuntu 9.04 actually |
| 17:42.12 | Muzer | only 2 months |
| 17:42.18 | Muzer | KDE4.1 aint too bad |
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| 17:43.21 | Half-Left | It's in backports anyway, works well on my wifes laptop |
| 17:44.54 | ambro779 | Hi, I get these messages in the shell whenever I run a command: "malloc: using debugging hooks". This started happening recently in the 4.2 branch. |
| 17:45.44 | pinotree | update your 4.2 branch again |
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| 18:12.39 | JackWinter | i've just created a package for archlinux. how do i go about adding the programs to kmenu ? |
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| 18:18.55 | ryan-c | Does anyone know how to get kscreensaver to log successful authentication to unlock the screen? |
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| 18:24.03 | freeedrich| | ryan-c: how you mean? |
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| 18:55.54 | Zumbii | This keeps getting filed as a bug over the past few years. |
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| 19:18.06 | flithm1 | Hey everyone... with compositing turned on I get the odd red flash of my screen when watching full screen video. Like maybe one frame in 10,000 is bright red. Doesn't sound annoying, but it is :). Anyone know if this has been reported before? Or if there might be a way around it? |
| 19:18.22 | peaches_ | isnt there a way to force single instance applications to run multiple instances? |
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| 19:22.10 | flithm1 | peaches_: what? |
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| 19:22.58 | flithm1 | peaches_: sorry I might have jumped in the middle of something :) |
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| 19:24.41 | peaches_ | flithm1: a lot of kde apps will only run one instance of themselves.. executing the app again just focus the original window.. i thought i remember there being a way to force an entire new app to be run |
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| 19:25.06 | flithm1 | peaches_: any app in particular? |
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| 19:25.27 | peaches_ | nope,any |
| 19:25.45 | flithm1 | peaches_: I can't think of a kde app like that... kate isn't, dolphin isn't, konsole isn't |
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| 19:26.10 | peaches_ | korganizer kontact akregator kmix yakuake kaffeine |
| 19:26.14 | peaches_ | amarok |
| 19:26.27 | peaches_ | konversation konvi.. actuall a lot now that i think of it |
| 19:28.16 | flithm1 | :) haha fair enough. I guess I don't use those ones. I don't know it might not be possible for some strange reason. |
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| 19:29.05 | Sho_ | peaches_: --nofork |
| 19:29.12 | peaches_ | kopete ktorrent anyway i coulda sworn |
| 19:29.20 | peaches_ | ahh |
| 19:29.26 | Sho_ | peaches_: but doing that can break things, obviously |
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| 19:30.16 | peaches_ | nice thanks Sho_ im sure it's bound to |
| 19:30.21 | Sho_ | peaches_: as in, an app that's not designed to have multiple instances work concurrently on its configuration or other data might corrupt it in that event |
| 19:30.33 | Sho_ | (for example: akregator feed archive) |
| 19:30.39 | peaches_ | yeah or dbus calls |
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| 19:31.16 | bahuvrihi | Hi! I'm having a problem with keyboard layout in KDE 3.5 -- it doesn't switch. |
| 19:32.05 | bahuvrihi | It switches, really, but only with the KDE shortcut, not the X one. |
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| 19:43.36 | serenity | hi |
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| 20:00.07 | Phisbut | I have KDE 4.2 and use two monitors, setup with TwinView (nvidia) as a single X Screen. In my System Settings --> Display --> Size&Orientation, it shows up as a single display 3200x1200 in size. However, when I hit Ctrl+F12 to show the dashboard, it only shows on one of the two screens... is there a way to make it show the whole dashboard on all screens at once? |
| 20:00.09 | ld50 | what are the advantages of using the raster graphics system in Qt 4.5 ? |
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| 20:03.12 | ganymede | was wondering if there is a way to remove oneself from the CC list of a bug without generating an email to the rest of the people cc'ed to the bug? |
| 20:03.44 | ganymede | ld50, they say it's like 10 times faster, have you read the qt blog entry about it? |
| 20:04.05 | ld50 | yes |
| 20:04.25 | ld50 | ganymede, what about disadvantages? |
| 20:04.49 | ld50 | and is it enabled by default in Qt4.5? |
| 20:04.56 | ganymede | ld50, you might get a better response in #qt or #kde-devel |
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| 20:05.20 | ld50 | brb |
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| 20:07.08 | mini-man | um, did gwenview disappear from trunk? |
| 20:07.25 | mini-man | i suddenly don't have it anymore, isn't it in kdemultimedia? |
| 20:07.37 | deetah_ | i'm running KDE by "startkde" in .xinit, is there a way to add "shutdown" option to KDE in this case? [3.5] |
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| 20:15.47 | bbb | mini-man:gwenview is in kdegraphics |
| 20:16.37 | mini-man | bbb: must be something wrong with my repos then, because it's installed but gwenview has been vaporized |
| 20:17.21 | bbb | mini-man:you compile from sources? |
| 20:17.55 | mini-man | bbb: well used to, got tired of having to update every single day |
| 20:18.00 | mini-man | using binaries now |
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| 20:19.01 | bbb | mini-man:ah, then forget my stuff, I don't know what your distro does with gwenview |
| 20:19.11 | Samuel-NotAFK | My computer is taking too long to start KDE3 and my utility programs. How can I decrease KDE3 boot up time? Will saving my sessions help to reduce it? |
| 20:19.12 | mini-man | ah |
| 20:19.16 | mini-man | archlinux here |
| 20:19.25 | mini-man | tried asking there but no luck :P |
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| 20:23.01 | Samuel-NotAFK | Will Koffice2 be backported to KDE3? I want Koffice2 but I don't want to have to install all the QT4 and KDE4 stuff. |
| 20:23.18 | bbb | Samuel-NotAFK:no |
| 20:23.39 | bbb | Samuel-NotAFK:that's impossible |
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| 20:24.36 | Samuel-NotAFK | bbb: I hate Koffice1.5 and I have KDE4. I have no choice but to install software I hate. |
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| 20:25.29 | ld50 | Samuel-NotAFK, so you have KDE4 installed? |
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| 20:25.32 | Muzer | Um, how do I get the places sidebar back in dolphin? |
| 20:25.34 | deetah_ | is KDE able to work well without KDM? |
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| 20:25.38 | Muzer | I managed to reduce it to a single button |
| 20:25.50 | Muzer | which has a list pop up |
| 20:25.58 | deetah_ | I mean, KDE3. |
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| 20:26.01 | ld50 | deetah_, I don't use KDM, just startx |
| 20:26.14 | deetah_ | ld50: same here, but i'm new to this kind of configs |
| 20:26.22 | deetah_ | how have you solved the lack of "shutdown" button? |
| 20:26.25 | Samuel-NotAFK | ld50: KDE3 is currently installed with OpenOffice. |
| 20:26.27 | deetah_ | it just allows me to log out |
| 20:26.56 | Muzer | sudo poweroff |
| 20:26.57 | ld50 | deetah_, I run halt in a terminal |
| 20:26.58 | Muzer | FTW!# |
| 20:27.03 | Samuel-NotAFK | deetah_: You could use XDM or GDM. |
| 20:27.09 | deetah_ | and it doesn't save configs, does it? |
| 20:27.16 | deetah_ | well, I want it to boot as fast as possible. |
| 20:27.26 | Samuel-NotAFK | There are some lightweight desktop managers that will barely affect boot time. |
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| 20:27.34 | Samuel-NotAFK | deetah_: Use suspend to RAM then. |
| 20:27.35 | ld50 | deetah_, I never noticed :) |
| 20:27.50 | Samuel-NotAFK | deetah_: Better yet, never turn the machine off. |
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| 20:28.10 | deetah_ | the goal is to run fast with no suspend tricks. |
| 20:28.33 | Muzer | this isn't Windows, it won't slowly degrade when it's on until you are forced to reboot :p |
| 20:28.55 | ld50 | deetah_, I used to have autologin in vc1, which immediatly run startx and locked the screen, when I got back KDE was fully booted |
| 20:29.10 | deetah_ | Muzer: what do you mean? |
| 20:29.21 | Samuel-NotAFK | Muzer: That's common knowledge. |
| 20:29.27 | Muzer | heh |
| 20:29.34 | deetah_ | ld50: it still doesn't solve the shutdown problem :p |
| 20:29.43 | Muzer | deetah_: If you leave Windows switched on, it gets slower :p |
| 20:29.52 | Muzer | over time |
| 20:30.04 | deetah_ | whatever. |
| 20:30.05 | Muzer | whereas Linux doesn't (in general, unless you have an app running with a memory leak) |
| 20:30.11 | ld50 | deetah_, that's just something you have to setuid |
| 20:30.22 | deetah_ | ld50: which app exactly? |
| 20:31.13 | ld50 | deetah_, I don't know, but I think I have a dbus command to popup the halt/reboot dialog |
| 20:31.33 | deetah_ | the dialog runs, but it doesn't show anything but logout :p |
| 20:31.53 | deetah_ | I can see no point suiding anyway, X is run as a regular user |
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| 20:32.46 | wilder | Muzer: an app or a video driver? |
| 20:32.49 | wilder | (grrr) |
| 20:32.55 | Muzer | heh |
| 20:33.01 | Muzer | <Muzer> Um, how do I get the places sidebar back in dolphin? |
| 20:33.03 | Muzer | <Muzer> I managed to reduce it to a single button |
| 20:33.03 | Muzer | <Muzer> which has a list pop up |
| 20:33.05 | Muzer | and I can't get it back |
| 20:33.36 | Muzer | and now I've crashed dolphin :p |
| 20:33.50 | deetah_ | no solution, then? |
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| 20:34.46 | Muzer | deetah_: Add an icon somewhere that runs kdesudo poweroff |
| 20:35.01 | Muzer | you'll need to type your password, but other than that it'll function the same |
| 20:35.16 | Muzer | or kdesu |
| 20:35.21 | Muzer | depedning on what you have installed |
| 20:35.32 | deetah_ | but it still won't be a smooth shutdown, it won't save configs... |
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| 20:37.51 | deetah_ | will it? |
| 20:38.54 | Muzer | if the apps save configs when they recieve SIGTERM, then yes |
| 20:38.55 | ld50 | deetah_, make a script which saves the session and then calls sudo poweroff |
| 20:38.59 | Muzer | I don't know much about that sort of thing |
| 20:39.42 | ld50 | deetah_, saving the session can be done through dbus |
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| 20:48.33 | deetah_ | ld50: any docs on that? |
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| 20:49.06 | ld50 | deetah_, no, only an example if you want |
| 20:49.43 | deetah_ | might be useful ;) |
| 20:50.15 | ld50 | deetah_, dbus-send --session --print-reply --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.logout int32:1 int32:0 int32:0 |
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| 20:50.46 | ld50 | deetah_, that calls the logout method which popups the logout dialog, for other methods use qdbusviewer |
| 20:51.39 | ld50 | there's a saveCurrentSession method |
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| 20:59.53 | binman180 | Hey, im on KDE 4. and this sounds stupid, i removed the default task panel, anyway to restore this how it was by default? |
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| 21:21.27 | Toran | Is there a way to disable Konqueror's status bar in KDE 4.x? |
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| 21:30.49 | mountainjew | has anybody been able to get the network manager plasmoid working in 4.2? |
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| 21:44.51 | punto | hi.. does 'kedit' have a new name? I can't find the package on ubuntu |
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| 21:47.26 | pusling | punto: wasn't kedit killed ? |
| 21:49.51 | WishMasterNND | punto: Maybe you're searching for kwrite? |
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| 21:51.25 | punto | kwrite looks good, thanks |
| 21:52.06 | WishMasterNND | punto: If you need something a little more powerful, try kate. It's basically kwrite with some extras. |
| 21:55.14 | punto | yeah, I was on kate before I installed kwrite.. just needed to paste some text :) |
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| 21:56.30 | Samuel-NotAFK | punto: Use kedit |
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| 21:56.53 | Samuel-NotAFK | Kedit is my favourite. |
| 21:57.07 | punto | but kedit doesn't exist |
| 21:57.30 | punto | (on ubuntu) |
| 21:58.04 | Samuel-NotAFK | Either Kedit or nano for CLI. |
| 21:58.04 | Samuel-NotAFK | punto: LOL WTF? |
| 21:58.04 | Samuel-NotAFK | punto: Sure it dooes. |
| 21:58.04 | Samuel-NotAFK | s/dooes/does/ |
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| 22:00.09 | kernco | KWin desktop effects are crashing kdm when KDE tries to start. How can I disable them from the command line? |
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| 22:04.53 | Samuel-NotAFK | kernco: I have an idera. |
| 22:05.03 | Samuel-NotAFK | s/idera/idea/ |
| 22:05.12 | Samuel-NotAFK | kernco: Start KDE in safe mode. |
| 22:05.17 | Samuel-NotAFK | kernco: Then run kcontrol |
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| 22:06.45 | Samuel-NotAFK | (22:06:05) Samuel-NotAFK: kernco: I have an idera. |
| 22:06.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | (22:06:15) Samuel-NotAFK: s/idera/idea/ |
| 22:06.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | (22:06:23) Samuel-NotAFK: kernco: Start KDE in safe mode. |
| 22:06.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | (22:06:29) Samuel-NotAFK: kernco: Then run kcontrol |
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| 22:07.15 | MinceR | lol |
| 22:07.21 | MinceR | there's a safe mode now? |
| 22:08.15 | kernco | I can switch my driver to vesa and start KDE, but then when I open kcontrol, desktop effects is not enabled. When I switch back to my normal video driver, though, it automatically enables desktop effects |
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| 22:08.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | MinceR: Yes. |
| 22:08.33 | Samuel-NotAFK | MinceR: Maybe not in KDE4 |
| 22:08.43 | MinceR | i didn't know |
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| 22:09.46 | WishMasterNND | MinceR: You can select that safe mode from the list of DEs in KDM. |
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| 22:10.38 | MinceR | ic |
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| 22:14.47 | Phlogi | is it possible to reload phonon? |
| 22:17.01 | WishMasterNND | Phlogi: You could do that some way by changing Phonon's backend in your KDE settings and then returning to the original one. |
| 22:17.19 | Phlogi | I added a new backend... but just logged out and in again now |
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| 22:19.25 | WishMasterNND | Phlogi: That should also have made Phonon reload. Why do you want to restart Phonon? |
| 22:20.11 | Phlogi | WishMasterNND: never mind |
| 22:21.09 | Phlogi | I changed to gstreamer now, but when I start amarok it just crashes |
| 22:21.55 | pinotree | gstreamer is not suitable with amarok, i read from bug reports |
| 22:22.00 | WishMasterNND | Phlogi: I have made better experiences with xine. |
| 22:22.18 | Phlogi | hmm sad.. I wanted to use OSS4, and that does not work well with xine |
| 22:22.27 | Phlogi | wow thats a real mess ... |
| 22:22.29 | WishMasterNND | I think GStreamer is not the best choice as it can't even play audio CDs or dvds properly as far as I remember. |
| 22:22.33 | WishMasterNND | OSS4? |
| 22:22.43 | Phlogi | WishMasterNND: !alsa |
| 22:23.12 | WishMasterNND | hu? oss is dead, I think. |
| 22:23.19 | Phlogi | nope |
| 22:23.24 | Phlogi | fortunately not |
| 22:23.30 | Phlogi | but it sucks as alsa does here |
| 22:23.39 | WishMasterNND | That's a real pity. |
| 22:23.44 | Phlogi | indeed |
| 22:23.45 | WishMasterNND | Which distro are you using? |
| 22:24.01 | Phlogi | that soundcard is so damn old, but it seems that nobody managed to get it working |
| 22:24.13 | Phlogi | its an sblive, and I want 5.1 dolby surround |
| 22:24.17 | WishMasterNND | Don't you have onboard sound? |
| 22:24.24 | Phlogi | yes |
| 22:24.30 | WishMasterNND | That is the better choice, I would say. |
| 22:24.39 | Phlogi | WishMasterNND: read again |
| 22:24.52 | WishMasterNND | ... yes? |
| 22:24.58 | Phlogi | its an sblive, and I want 5.1 dolby surround |
| 22:25.17 | WishMasterNND | Is there any difference between normal surround and dolby surround? |
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| 22:25.50 | Phlogi | WishMasterNND: no... why? My onboard does not support 6channels |
| 22:26.24 | WishMasterNND | mhm ... |
| 22:26.28 | WishMasterNND | Sorry then. |
| 22:26.52 | Phlogi | goes back to alsa |
| 22:29.01 | Phlogi | whats the name of the splash screen app showing up when kde is loading? |
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| 22:31.11 | WishMasterNND | Phlogi: It used to be ksplash in KDE 3 but I think now it's part of plasma. |
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| 22:32.07 | Phlogi | it just does not show up here :) |
| 22:33.08 | WishMasterNND | Have you checked it in your systemsettings? |
| 22:33.10 | pinotree | Phlogi: ksplash |
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| 22:34.16 | yao_ziyuan | Latest QtCurve. Uploaded via an insecure connection from within China. Use at your own risk. |
| 22:34.16 | yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/vuyjws/qtcurve-kde4_0.61.4-0_i386.deb |
| 22:34.16 | yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/jzejmw/qtcurve-kde3_0.61.3-0_i386.deb |
| 22:34.16 | yao_ziyuan | http://filebin.ca/ybpvhh/qtcurve-gtk2_0.61.4-0_i386.deb |
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| 22:36.08 | lilltiger | yao_ziyuan: define insecure connection |
| 22:36.23 | yao_ziyuan | http |
| 22:36.56 | lilltiger | is it common for stuff to get intercepted and modified when uploaded from china? |
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| 22:37.24 | yao_ziyuan | lilltiger: no, because that would soon break the government's credibility |
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| 22:38.37 | lilltiger | yao_ziyuan: Does the chinese gov have any cred. at all.. hmm :p hehe |
| 22:38.57 | yao_ziyuan | lilltiger: however, i believe for key activists and a small percent of random users there are such attacks. |
| 22:39.03 | ma3x | hello i want to make f4 shortcut but it says it's already assigned. how can i find out to what f4 is assigned? i browser through the kdemenu and i couldn't find anything related to it |
| 22:39.09 | ma3x | and when i press f4 nothing really happens |
| 22:39.35 | Samuel-NotAFK | Could I make all my KDE4 apps look like KDE3 apps by using qtcurve? |
| 22:39.57 | Samuel-NotAFK | What I mean is, can I make my KDE3 and KDE4 programs look identical using qtcurve? |
| 22:40.05 | yao_ziyuan | Samuel-NotAFK: yes |
| 22:40.11 | lilltiger | yao_ziyuan: indeed but imo the risk is alot bigger that the author of the program implements an trojan or an serius bug then someone intercepts an http upload an modifies it to include an trojan |
| 22:40.14 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: Exactly? |
| 22:40.16 | yao_ziyuan | Samuel-NotAFK: that's exactly its purpose |
| 22:40.58 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: Jolly good. |
| 22:40.59 | yao_ziyuan | Samuel-NotAFK: qtcurve tries to make a constant look among gtk2, kde3 and kde4 apps |
| 22:41.10 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: And qtcurve looks GREAT too. :) |
| 22:41.24 | ld50 | How can I have a smi-transparent panel? |
| 22:41.46 | Samuel-NotAFK | Can I use KDE4 apps with KDE3 without problems? |
| 22:41.46 | ld50 | it's opac |
| 22:41.48 | pinotree | ld50: use a theme which provides a translucent panel |
| 22:42.02 | Samuel-NotAFK | I like how KDE4 apps are shaping up but KDE3 is still the superior DE. |
| 22:42.22 | yao_ziyuan | Samuel-NotAFK: yes. kubuntu can run both kde3 and kde4 apps at the same time |
| 22:43.02 | ma3x | anyone? |
| 22:43.03 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: I guess that means Debian will be fine too then. |
| 22:43.18 | lilltiger | kde4 is still way to buggy :( |
| 22:43.33 | yao_ziyuan | lilltiger: yes, the tray |
| 22:43.49 | yao_ziyuan | and i miss kubuntu/kde3's panel |
| 22:44.01 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: Same. |
| 22:44.09 | Samuel-NotAFK | I miss pretty much everything from KDE3 |
| 22:44.15 | pinotree | like? |
| 22:44.18 | ld50 | pinotree, thanks |
| 22:44.22 | WishMasterNND | lilltiger, yao_ziyuan: It's not buggy at all if you use the latest version. |
| 22:44.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | Until I can make KDE4 emulate my current KDE3 set up, I won't use it. |
| 22:44.38 | lilltiger | whole plasma has a few annoying bugs, and phonon isent playing nicly at some times and a few other stuff.. |
| 22:44.49 | yao_ziyuan | http://www.kubuntu-de.org/files/Kubuntu.png |
| 22:44.54 | WishMasterNND | Samuel-NotAFK: That is like saying "if I can't make Firefox work like IE, I won't use it". |
| 22:44.57 | lilltiger | WishMasterNND: I use the SVN.. |
| 22:45.09 | lilltiger | allthought it's a few weeks old now |
| 22:45.11 | WishMasterNND | lilltiger: Well that is not a good idea. |
| 22:45.28 | WishMasterNND | You know, the SVN is also called the *unstable* version. |
| 22:45.34 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: I've configured my KDE3 to be as useful to me as possible on my EeePC. |
| 22:45.45 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: IE doesn't work for me. |
| 22:45.56 | Samuel-NotAFK | Firefox is almost perfect. |
| 22:46.02 | lilltiger | WishMasterNND: I need it as i develop plasmoids (althought i haent had time to finish em yet :( ) |
| 22:46.55 | WishMasterNND | Samuel-NotAFK: I'm sure, especially on a netbook you will like plasma and KDE 4 ;) |
| 22:47.07 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: Why? |
| 22:47.19 | WishMasterNND | lilltiger: You could develop them with 4.2, too, couldn't you? |
| 22:47.28 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: I rarely use the desktop. I always stare at an open window. |
| 22:47.34 | Samuel-NotAFK | s/rarely/never/ |
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| 22:47.43 | Samuel-NotAFK | I have no desktop wallpaper because I never see it. |
| 22:47.43 | yao_ziyuan | but when i really run kubuntu 8.04.2 (kde 3.5.10) in vbox, |
| 22:47.48 | yao_ziyuan | i feel everything is backward |
| 22:48.06 | WishMasterNND | There is KDE 4.2 which is pretty stable. |
| 22:48.07 | lilltiger | WishMasterNND: nope some fixes to plasma i need that dident make it to 4.2 (at least not the latest 4.2 version i tried) |
| 22:48.18 | yao_ziyuan | "3" gives me a feeling of "windows 3" which is 16-bit... |
| 22:48.19 | Samuel-NotAFK | yao_ziyuan: The move away from KDE3 in Ubuntu deterred me so now I'm using Debian. |
| 22:48.46 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: I still consider KDE4 to be unfinished. |
| 22:48.50 | yao_ziyuan | WishMasterNND: i'm using kde 4.2. it still has tray updating problems. |
| 22:49.02 | pinotree | tray should be solved with qt 4.5 |
| 22:49.32 | pinotree | Samuel-NotAFK: examples of what you consider unfinished? |
| 22:49.37 | yao_ziyuan | pinotree: how to check my qt version? |
| 22:49.45 | pinotree | $ anykdeapp --version |
| 22:50.03 | yao_ziyuan | Qt: 4.4.3 |
| 22:50.05 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: It can not do everything KDE3 can do. |
| 22:50.09 | pinotree | like? |
| 22:50.14 | WishMasterNND | Samuel-NotAFK: http://adymo.blogspot.com/2009/02/kde-42-on-eeepc-mini-review.html |
| 22:50.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: It can't be configured to emulate my KDE3 set up. |
| 22:50.25 | ld50 | Samuel-NotAFK, KDE3 also is unfinished :) |
| 22:50.31 | pinotree | Samuel-NotAFK: .... like? |
| 22:50.32 | Hxal | pinotree, network manager applet :P |
| 22:50.33 | yao_ziyuan | pinotree: is qt 4.5 released? |
| 22:50.37 | WishMasterNND | yao_ziyuan: Which problems? I don't have any since somewhere between 4.1 and 4.2. |
| 22:50.41 | pinotree | yao_ziyuan: just at rc1 |
| 22:50.46 | Samuel-NotAFK | ld50: All software is but it's less unfinished. |
| 22:51.03 | WishMasterNND | Samuel-NotAFK: Tell us in which aspects KDE 4 is less finished. |
| 22:51.21 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: Panel and menu configuration. |
| 22:51.29 | Samuel-NotAFK | System settings. |
| 22:51.35 | Samuel-NotAFK | I want MORE menus in my KDE. |
| 22:51.36 | pinotree | what about being less generic? |
| 22:51.39 | Samuel-NotAFK | Not less!!! |
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| 22:51.53 | yao_ziyuan | WishMasterNND: try right-click the tray's "show/hide more icons" triangle and then right-click somewhere else to cancel the popup menu. now you see the tray icons are half-ruined. |
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| 22:52.11 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: Sure. I want the classic KDE3 menu with the "actions" section implemented. |
| 22:52.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: I used the quickbrowser and settings tree menu. |
| 22:52.29 | Hazuki | Question for KDE 4.2, Arch Linux 64-bit: Is it possible to change the KMenu icon? If so, how? |
| 22:52.46 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: That's my biggest gripe ATM. |
| 22:52.55 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: I want my customised menu back!!! |
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| 22:53.24 | pinotree | that's your biggest gripe? man, you should learn to make things less tragedy-like |
| 22:53.54 | BillyBop | hi, is there a way to relaunch taskbar when it fails with a segfault? (kde 4.2.0) |
| 22:54.09 | WishMasterNND | yao_ziyuan: That's just a tiny little redrawing problem. |
| 22:54.15 | pinotree | BillyBop: run 'plasma' |
| 22:54.24 | yao_ziyuan | i suspect they develop kde 4 from scratch to save the economic crisis |
| 22:54.30 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: That link didn't explain to me why I'd love KDE4. |
| 22:54.47 | Samuel-NotAFK | WishMasterNND: The author seemed to be applauding KDE in general not just KDE4. |
| 22:54.50 | yao_ziyuan | WishMasterNND: it matters. |
| 22:55.00 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: Small things like that really piss me off. |
| 22:55.19 | BillyBop | pinotree: does not work, I have to relaunch X |
| 22:55.23 | lilltiger | Samuel-NotAFK: i used Lancelot in kde4 erlier was a very cool menu intill they made it ugly by using scrollbars :( now i use the krunner and like it alot :) dont have any menu at all |
| 22:55.48 | yao_ziyuan | another thing not mature in kde 4 is gtk-qt-engine |
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| 22:55.56 | yao_ziyuan | back in kde 3 i can kde-ize firefox perfectly |
| 22:56.02 | pinotree | yao_ziyuan: gtk-qt is not a kde product |
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| 22:56.36 | Samuel-NotAFK | Also, ALL programs should not stop me from being able to click the "Okay" "cancel" "save" buttons on the bottom of the screen with a vertical resolution of 600. |
| 22:56.39 | yao_ziyuan | pinotree: but from the user perspective it is necesary |
| 22:56.41 | lilltiger | id like better flash support in konqi so i dont have to use that ugly and crapy firefox ting :p |
| 22:56.54 | pinotree | yao_ziyuan: and? we have no responsibility for it |
| 22:57.24 | Samuel-NotAFK | I wish Konqueror was as ergonomic as the amazing Firefox. |
| 22:57.35 | yao_ziyuan | pinotree: kde-izing gtk2 apps is a de facto responsibility |
| 22:57.38 | pinotree | Samuel-NotAFK: hold Alt and then left-drag to move any window |
| 22:57.46 | pinotree | yao_ziyuan: not for us |
| 22:57.48 | Hxal | so... use qtcurve :P |
| 22:58.00 | Hazuki | There's no way to change the K Menu button? |
| 22:58.07 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: How about implementing a scrollbar if the window is too small? |
| 22:58.16 | Samuel-NotAFK | s/window/screen/ |
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| 22:58.17 | WishMasterNND | yao_ziyuan: Looking ugly and having a bad usability is rather a problem of GTK. |
| 22:58.35 | yao_ziyuan | now i'm seriously considering switching to kde 3... |
| 22:58.38 | pinotree | Samuel-NotAFK: examples of those problems? |
| 22:58.42 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: You might exchange the corresponding icon in the theme you are using. |
| 22:58.42 | Hxal | anyway, since we're wishing, I wish graphicssystem raster was the default, since intel's xrender sucks big time, and that the network manager applet was able to save the wpa password :P |
| 22:58.53 | Hazuki | WishMasterNND, is there a way besides that? |
| 22:58.58 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: Amarok settings |
| 22:59.05 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: KTorrent settings |
| 22:59.16 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: Lots of other settings windows. |
| 22:59.19 | pinotree | Samuel-NotAFK: so what? they have the same issues in their kde3 versions |
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| 22:59.28 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: Then they need to be fixed. |
| 22:59.43 | Samuel-NotAFK | pinotree: This is a complaint against both KDE3 and KDE4. |
| 22:59.48 | BillyBop | yao_ziyuan: was like you at first, now I love this feature |
| 23:00.05 | Samuel-NotAFK | G2G - Need to watch Lost |
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| 23:00.09 | Samuel-NotAFK | Bye byes! |
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| 23:00.43 | ld50 | Samuel-NotAFK, I stopped watching lost when I moved to KDE4 =) |
| 23:01.07 | eross | i want to add a desktop launcher for mythtv, is there a resource-friendly way? |
| 23:02.01 | yao_ziyuan | i thought the kicker taskbar was kde3's downfall |
| 23:02.15 | yao_ziyuan | because it has a single gray line at its top |
| 23:02.19 | yao_ziyuan | which is not very 3D-ish |
| 23:02.22 | Hazuki | okay, where does KDE4 store its icon themes? *looking around for what to replace* |
| 23:02.40 | BillyBop | has some bugs in plasma have been fixed in kde 4.2.1? I'm talking about taskbar segfaults |
| 23:02.43 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: /usr/share/icons |
| 23:02.44 | yao_ziyuan | but now i miss that kicker very much: http://www.kubuntu-de.org/files/Kubuntu.png |
| 23:02.51 | Hazuki | WishMasterNND, really? Thanks |
| 23:03.25 | Hazuki | wait, those look like cursors |
| 23:04.29 | eross | do i add an application launcher widget? |
| 23:04.32 | Hazuki | yeah, they're not there... |
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| 23:06.29 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: /usr/share/icons/oxygen |
| 23:06.49 | Hazuki | oh! I got that confused with my GTK oxygen icon theme |
| 23:07.55 | Hazuki | okay, now which one is it? *digging* |
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| 23:08.25 | szal | evening folks :> |
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| 23:09.54 | szal | question: migrating KMail/KDE3 to KMail/KDE4.. will it suffice to copy kmailrc, emailidentities and ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ over to the KDE4 environment, or do I have to pay attention to something? |
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| 23:12.14 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: According to a short "google" I took, you have to look at /usr/share/icons/oxygen/scalable/places/start-here-* |
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| 23:12.51 | Hazuki | I just found those, yeah |
| 23:13.06 | Hazuki | now I need to figure out how to make .svgz files. Sounds like a job for inkscape |
| 23:13.32 | WishMasterNND | But in case you don't have a huge panel, you might need /usr/share/icons/oxygen/XXxXX/places ... |
| 23:13.56 | WishMasterNND | Inkscape can save svgs as svgz. svgz is simply a gzipped svg. |
| 23:14.06 | Hazuki | man, even XFCE has a simple way to set the menu button... *pokes her panels* |
| 23:16.39 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: You could file a bug report/feature request. |
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| 23:17.26 | Hazuki | As soon as I get this working, yes |
| 23:18.24 | Hazuki | ...oh good Lord, it squashes the picture sideways |
| 23:19.06 | astromme | Hazuki: is your picture square? |
| 23:19.32 | Hazuki | No. Does it have to be for KDE, unlike almost every other WM and DE out there, to use it right? |
| 23:19.58 | pinotree | icons in icon themes are square |
| 23:20.07 | astromme | I would assume that kde just does a simple transformation to a square image rather than chopping an arbitrary amount |
| 23:20.22 | astromme | the latter is complex... where do you crop? |
| 23:20.29 | astromme | (and not accurate) |
| 23:20.37 | Hazuki | Yes, that would be my guess...but maybe if it would just use the icon as-is... |
| 23:20.47 | Hazuki | hm, maybe I can put it in as a separate type of widget....? |
| 23:20.58 | astromme | erm? |
| 23:21.18 | astromme | Why can't you just grab the one that's there, modify it in inkscape, and save it as the file you want? |
| 23:21.30 | Hazuki | because it's not going to be square |
| 23:21.32 | astromme | that would seem to be the easiest way to ensure it will work |
| 23:21.34 | astromme | ? |
| 23:21.45 | Hazuki | this is most of a Vista orb I'm using here. It's a little wider than it is tall |
| 23:21.55 | astromme | SO just paste your image in, and let alpha do its stuff |
| 23:22.11 | Hxal | sacrilege, that's why it doesn't work :P |
| 23:22.42 | Hazuki | Hxal, let's not lie...Vista is very pretty. It's just buggy, useless, overpriced, dangerous, and feature-poor |
| 23:22.42 | WishMasterNND | wonders why anybody would want a vista icon instead of the beautiful KDE logo ... |
| 23:23.01 | WishMasterNND | It's much uglier than KDE 4. |
| 23:23.04 | astromme | is happy with his chakra logo. /shrug |
| 23:23.25 | Hazuki | In total, yes, but there are some things I think are worth seeing...isn't Linux about choice? |
| 23:23.29 | xiando | I've heard nice things about Vista. |
| 23:23.37 | WishMasterNND | xiando: Well, these were lies. |
| 23:23.37 | astromme | of course, and you're able to change it |
| 23:23.57 | WishMasterNND | Hazuki: But ... the vista icon basically is the Windows logo ... |
| 23:24.08 | Hxal | I prefer more minimalist than vista or the default kde4... |
| 23:24.09 | astromme | sighs at WishMasterNND.. things are not that black and white |
| 23:24.17 | xiando | WishMasterNND: Those who use it apparently like it. |
| 23:24.21 | Hazuki | So? I make it a point to make Windows and Max themes and use them on old, old, old hardware to fool people. And get them onto Linux. |
| 23:24.28 | Hazuki | "You can make my old computer do THAT?" |
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| 23:24.52 | Hazuki | you should see the reactions I get using my IceWM Vierge and Aerophilia themes on an old P2 400 MHz |
| 23:24.53 | astromme | Hxal: I'm a fan of the "perfection" theme for kde4 |
| 23:24.56 | astromme | so beautiful |
| 23:24.57 | WishMasterNND | xiando: Well I have it installed on my Dell and I thought about not hating it at first. I really wanted to give it a chance. But It just ... you know ;) |
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| 23:25.49 | xiando | then you know. I never had it (or any windows since win98) installed myself. That's why I just accept that it's "good" by people who use it for some reason |
| 23:25.50 | Hazuki | oh, no one who's had Linux will deny Windows is buggy and bloated and anti-featured and all. It just hit on a good look this time around, unlike Luna |
| 23:26.07 | xiando | Hazuki: start firefox on that box and your fucked |
| 23:26.15 | Bsims | I am looking for a simple to use way to do web dj on linux, I want it to work with amarok if possible |
| 23:26.19 | xiando | Hazuki: what browser would you use on a pentium 400? |
| 23:26.30 | Hxal | links :P |
| 23:26.35 | xiando | I have a Pentium3 450mhz sitting in the basement |
| 23:26.36 | Hazuki | on the P2? It works, but slowly. I tend to use Kazehakase on that |
| 23:26.52 | Hazuki | oooh, time for me to cook and eat...it's getting late |
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| 23:27.18 | xiando | I see www-client/kazehakase can use webkit now. interesting. thanks. |
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| 23:32.46 | Bsims | I am looking for a simple to use way to do web dj on linux, I want it to work with amarok if possible |
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| 23:42.45 | szal | Bsims: what exactly do you want to do? |
| 23:43.35 | Bsims | szal: I want to play dj for an irc room I am in basicaly tell them to connect to a port on my machine and listen to the music I am playing if I could use my mike to chat too it would be perfect |
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| 23:44.00 | szal | Bsims: imho there is no really satisfactory solution to web-DJing on Linux.. unfortunately there is nothing better than SAM Broadcaster for Windows |
| 23:44.23 | szal | but if you only want to stream music w/o purposeful moderation, Amarok can do that |
| 23:45.01 | Bsims | How? |
| 23:45.21 | szal | as for the how, no idea, honestly.. just heard that from ppl who tried |
| 23:47.41 | liveuser_ | does anyone out there know how to connect to a printer on a wireless network from any Linux distro such as Fedora 10, openSUSE 11 or Kubuntu 8.10 |
| 23:50.07 | Moult | hey guys any ideas why KWin causes my X to go unresponsive? http://forum.kde.org/kde-kwin-causes-x-to-become-unresponsive-t-35500.html |
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| 23:53.37 | MinceR | probably because x is nowhere near as stable as it ought to be :> |
| 23:54.11 | lilltiger | Moult: graphic-card anddriver? |
| 23:55.24 | Moult | lilltiger: NVIDIA GeForce 9100M G |
| 23:55.32 | Moult | lilltiger: nvidia-drivers 180.27 |
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| 23:58.32 | lilltiger | Moult: strange, it shouldent happen with thoes drivers, haveyou checked the nvnews forums? |
| 23:58.44 | Moult | lilltiger: no. |
| 23:59.28 | lilltiger | Moult: cos it's an driver issue, not kde issue. The driver leaks memory into X fills the ram then the swap and then there is nothing to do but to reboot |
