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| 00:03.24 | wilder | has anybody ever experienced this?--> http://imagebin.ca/view/wMwYJO.html |
| 00:04.37 | szal | not in the taskbar, but yes |
| 00:05.36 | wilder | szal: did you manage to solve it? |
| 00:05.56 | wilder | I just updated to xorg 1.5 and this is surely related |
| 00:06.02 | szal | wilder: no.. but some fonts have it more than others; you might wanna try to change the system font |
| 00:06.25 | wilder | weird thing is |
| 00:06.27 | wilder | that it |
| 00:06.49 | wilder | it comes from time to time, and then it goes away by itself |
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| 00:07.54 | josh-l | hi |
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| 00:08.48 | josh-l | I want to make a launch feedback that spins (rotates) instead of bounces... what do I need to learn specifically to be able to make this? |
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| 00:10.00 | cmKzzz | Why doesn't KDE apps have any man pages? I am stuck with kpackagekit which just hangs, and trying to find info about it. A man page with links to log files, debug flags etc would be invaluable. Where am I supposed to find this information? |
| 00:11.01 | josh-l | i dont think any gui apps have man pages |
| 00:11.14 | MoDaX | cmKzzz: programname --help |
| 00:13.01 | cmKzzz | MoDaX: have you ever tried that for any KDE app? It just gives you general help, no documentation and or information. Most old X apps have very nice man pages. |
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| 00:13.36 | pinotree | cmKzzz: kde applications usually have documentation available in khelpcenter |
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| 00:13.46 | pinotree | (i doubt kpackagekit has one, though) |
| 00:14.18 | josh-l | umm anyone have a reply for me pls? |
| 00:14.23 | cmKzzz | pinotree: I'll have a look thanks |
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| 00:16.41 | szal | where are the menu item names for Konqueror stored? found a typo in the translation & want to correct it |
| 00:17.03 | szal | s/Konqueror/Konsole/ |
| 00:17.35 | pinotree | in .mo files |
| 00:19.04 | szal | another thing: I'm using QtCurve for 'optical compatibility' of Gtk apps w/ KDE.. I see that in Seamonkey the ligatures in the menu are shown in a different font than everything else.. would that be a Gtk bug or something to do w/ QtCurve? |
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| 00:20.13 | szal | also anti-aliasing in the Gtk apps seems not present |
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| 00:20.39 | josh-l | come on no devs in here? |
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| 00:21.05 | Spell | if you want devs: #kde-devel ;) |
| 00:21.35 | josh-l | thx |
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| 00:23.45 | DarkriftX | Can anyone help me figure out why my display settings will not persist past a reboot or x restart? |
| 00:24.04 | maazu | root perm required |
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| 00:25.02 | DarkriftX | if that was directed at me, i have used root to make all changes |
| 00:25.22 | maazu | DarkriftX: oh... |
| 00:26.01 | DarkriftX | i use "kdesu nvidia-settings" and make the changes. i then tell it to save to xorg.conf (without kdesu it fails at this spot) and i then logout or kill x. when i come back my settings are all defaulted |
| 00:26.18 | maazu | which distro? |
| 00:26.25 | DarkriftX | kubuntu 8.04 |
| 00:26.53 | maazu | can you click on the spanner and screw driver icon? |
| 00:26.53 | DarkriftX | kde 3 and 4 (i use 3, but i tried 4, settings wouldnt stick there either) |
| 00:27.18 | DarkriftX | where are those? |
| 00:27.29 | maazu | bottom left icon |
| 00:27.42 | maazu | then favourite tab, it should be there |
| 00:27.51 | DarkriftX | im on kde3 right now |
| 00:28.05 | maazu | i'm with XFCE4 |
| 00:28.09 | DarkriftX | oh |
| 00:28.16 | maazu | sometimes i do KDE4 |
| 00:28.24 | sheytan | Hi, i have a problem. when i first run some app from krunner and them close them they stay as a zombie process. for exaple i wanted to restart plasma, so i type kquitapp plasma, then alt+f2 for krunner, and started plasma. on the process list now i have plasma and plasma zombie. WHY? :/ |
| 00:28.53 | DarkriftX | for some reason nvidia-settings does not seem to be making xorg.conf changes. its making changes somewhere else (i dont know enough about this to know where) and those changes are not being saved |
| 00:29.09 | DarkriftX | should i try logging in as root (to kde) and make changes that way? im at a loss here |
| 00:29.22 | maazu | DarkriftX: old distro, modern Xservers dont rely on xorg.conf anymore |
| 00:29.36 | DarkriftX | ok, which fits my problem |
| 00:29.42 | DarkriftX | where do these settings get saved then? |
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| 00:29.46 | nanothief | DarkriftX, do you have a ~/.nvidia-settings-rc file? |
| 00:29.52 | DarkriftX | how do i read the "current" settings and save them? |
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| 00:30.40 | DarkriftX | yes, but it doesnt seem to have any settings in it that are relevant to my problems |
| 00:30.52 | DarkriftX | i see no resolutions in there or anything else like htat |
| 00:31.15 | maazu | which is your fav. media player? |
| 00:31.37 | nanothief | DarkriftX, what settings ar you changing? |
| 00:31.43 | nanothief | maazu, vlc ftw |
| 00:31.53 | maazu | kaffeine |
| 00:32.02 | Qu4Z | mplayer |
| 00:32.16 | DarkriftX | my problem is i have a laptop with an external 28" screen. I want the laptop screen off and the external running at 1900x1200 |
| 00:32.35 | DarkriftX | i have it running like that right now, but if i restart X, i get laptpo screen at 640x480 and external screen off |
| 00:33.51 | maazu | i haven't try dual display |
| 00:34.00 | maazu | DarkriftX: are you doing presentation soon? |
| 00:34.06 | DarkriftX | regardless, any changes i make are lost |
| 00:34.17 | DarkriftX | doesnt matter if i just use the standard display |
| 00:34.22 | DarkriftX | changes i make dont stick |
| 00:34.32 | DarkriftX | and no, the 28" is a new screen i bought |
| 00:34.40 | maazu | big display |
| 00:34.41 | nanothief | DarkriftX, try running sudo nvidia-settings -r , and seeing if that changes /etc/X11/xorg.conf (make a copy of that first, then diff them) |
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| 00:35.11 | DarkriftX | k, ill try it |
| 00:36.22 | DarkriftX | diff <file1> <file2> right? |
| 00:36.28 | DarkriftX | if so, it gave no output |
| 00:36.42 | nanothief | yeah, it did no changes :( |
| 00:36.57 | DarkriftX | so does that mean something? |
| 00:37.16 | DarkriftX | where are the changes being made at? |
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| 00:37.35 | pinotree | i think you should ask in an nvidia channel, more than #kde |
| 00:37.42 | DarkriftX | k |
| 00:37.42 | nanothief | ok try putting nvidia-settings -l in ~/.xinitrc and seeing if that forces the changes to stick |
| 00:37.50 | nanothief | other than that I'm out of ideas |
| 00:38.09 | maazu | nanothief: have you seen the screw driver and spanner icon -> display settings? |
| 00:38.35 | maazu | nanothief: you get to orient your display, mirror imaged, rotate 90 degs etc... |
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| 00:39.34 | DarkriftX | does .xinitrc need to be executable? |
| 00:39.35 | maazu | i lowered my display settings from 1200x800 to 1024x860 so that kaffeine player looks nicer |
| 00:39.38 | DarkriftX | (i didnt have one) |
| 00:39.44 | nanothief | maazu: don't think so, is that through systemsettings ? |
| 00:39.56 | nanothief | DarkriftX, no, its a config files sourced by X when started |
| 00:40.00 | DarkriftX | k |
| 00:40.04 | maazu | nanothief: yeah |
| 00:40.04 | DarkriftX | here goes nothing |
| 00:40.05 | nanothief | its ok if you don't already have one |
| 00:40.10 | DarkriftX | imma kill x and see if it works |
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| 00:40.40 | nanothief | maazu, no I don't have that |
| 00:40.45 | nanothief | whats its name? |
| 00:41.06 | maazu | i forgot... :( the icon is screw driver and spanner at cross bones |
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| 00:42.18 | DarkriftX | no change |
| 00:42.35 | DarkriftX | so the changes im making with nvidia-settings are not getting put in the config |
| 00:42.38 | DarkriftX | even when ran as root |
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| 00:43.15 | hardcorelamer | what's the program that runs the taskbar ? |
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| 00:43.26 | pinotree | hardcorelamer: kde3 or kde4? |
| 00:43.27 | DarkriftX | kicker |
| 00:43.30 | DarkriftX | for kde3* |
| 00:43.56 | Qu4Z | DarkriftX: Are you pressing the "Write to config" button? |
| 00:44.02 | DarkriftX | yes |
| 00:44.09 | DarkriftX | ive tried both "merge with current" and without that |
| 00:44.13 | Qu4Z | Which file is it writing to? Is there a chance it's being overridden by, eg, /etc/xorg.conf or something? |
| 00:44.19 | DarkriftX | ive also manually copied the text from the preview to my xorg.conf |
| 00:44.49 | hardcorelamer | pinotree: kde4 |
| 00:45.03 | pinotree | hardcorelamer: the same that provides a desktop: plasma |
| 00:45.04 | hardcorelamer | my desktop is all messed up, kwin is running, but there's no desktop/widgets/bar |
| 00:45.27 | DarkriftX | so a: its not loading my xorg.conf at all, or b: the settings im making in nvidia-settings are not xorg.conf type of settings and are supposed to be read soemwhere else |
| 00:45.28 | hardcorelamer | I've tried killing my .kde folder, but every login everything is down except kwin |
| 00:45.49 | nanothief | kde 4 ususally uses ~/.kde4 |
| 00:45.53 | DarkriftX | i guess i could try restarting, and starting nvidia-settings from terminal and see what errors i see there when i make changes |
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| 00:46.01 | DarkriftX | brb, ill try that one |
| 00:46.25 | hardcorelamer | other users on the same computer don't have this problem, they had old kde3 .kde dirs |
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| 00:47.40 | nanothief | hardcorelamer, have you tried right clicking the background and adding widgets/panels? |
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| 00:51.02 | DarkriftX | ok, I ran nvidia-settings from console and here is the output i got (if anyone cares and might be able to discern the problem from it) |
| 00:51.03 | DarkriftX | http://pastebin.com/d5ce0ed7a |
| 00:52.33 | nanothief | DarkriftX, try making a backup of that file, and deleting it, and starting over |
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| 00:52.44 | nanothief | (lines 14-22 are normal) |
| 00:53.04 | DarkriftX | k |
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| 00:53.28 | nanothief | also, you might want to start a second X server, and use that for irc, and test on your first one |
| 00:53.44 | arkascha | I have the impression that webdav is more or less broken in kde-4.2 (konqueror and dolphin). Looking at bug.kde.org it seems it is broken since 2007 and has never been fixed. Hundreds of bug entries, all not handled at all. |
| 00:54.05 | DarkriftX | crt0 is the display i want to use, dfp0 is the one i do NOT want working (this is what i keep setting but losing the settings) |
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| 00:54.42 | hallowname | arkascha: you mean the kioslave? i use webdav client gui (by some name ive forgotten) all the time under kde... |
| 00:54.55 | hardcorelamer | nanothief: there's no response to right clicking on the background, but alt f2 does work |
| 00:55.07 | hardcorelamer | if I remove my .kde dir, I can login and use it all day long once |
| 00:55.09 | arkascha | hallowname: there IS a separate gui ? I never found a working one. |
| 00:55.29 | arkascha | hallowname: that's why I use dolphin, though its a stupid application. |
| 00:55.33 | hardcorelamer | anyaway, I'm not concerned about that... some apps have strange font corruption, like firefox and kmymoney (both non native kde4 apps) |
| 00:55.56 | DarkriftX | those errors dont make sense. the line number for the first one (19) is nothing. |
| 00:56.01 | DarkriftX | http://pastebin.com/d42ff3105 |
| 00:56.02 | nanothief | hardcorelamer, that is strange, so this doesn't happen with a new user? |
| 00:56.11 | arkascha | hallowname: could you find out the name of your client ? You say you use it all the time... |
| 00:56.56 | nanothief | DarkriftX, what does /root/.nvidia-settings-rc contain? (if anything) |
| 00:57.05 | DarkriftX | hrmm, good idea |
| 00:57.48 | hardcorelamer | nanothief: yes, both users have problems with font corruption... if I turn off advanced desktop effects, it seems to go away |
| 00:58.10 | arkascha | dolphin even crashes when trying to use webdav. |
| 00:58.18 | nanothief | thats a graphics card issue hardcorelamer |
| 00:58.22 | DarkriftX | identical except for the path in the 2nd line |
| 00:58.28 | DarkriftX | and the time/date of course |
| 00:58.51 | hallowname | arkascha: cadaver + dav explorer... cadaver does fine on its own, i only use dav for sourceforge projects... |
| 00:59.16 | hallowname | arkascha: why cant you keep a kde3 davioslave and konqueror? |
| 00:59.35 | hallowname | arkascha: lots of things are left to port :) |
| 01:00.06 | nanothief | DarkriftX, well I've got no clue whats wrong, you might have better luck in #nvidia |
| 01:00.17 | DarkriftX | yeah, still waiting for reply in there but thanks for trying |
| 01:00.29 | arkascha | hallowname: cadaver does work, that's why I say its not a server issue. Dav Explorer is java. I will not use that. |
| 01:00.42 | DarkriftX | is there a wya to make xrandr output some sort of script or config that it can reload? |
| 01:00.47 | arkascha | hallowname: kde3 is broken as well. Since 2007 as far as I can see. |
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| 01:01.26 | Len | hi |
| 01:02.37 | rohanpm | Hmm, do kioslaves work in KDE4 for windows? |
| 01:03.00 | hallowname | arkascha: oh um... dunno, sry :) |
| 01:03.26 | arkascha | hallowname: sure, it is just so annoying that such things are simply ignored by the developers. |
| 01:03.37 | arkascha | hallowname: drives me away from kde. Too many bugs. |
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| 01:04.12 | Chani | anyone remember kde3's options for mousebuttons on the desktop? there was the kmenu, the custom launcher menu, the regular contextmenu, the windowlist... |
| 01:04.47 | hardcorelamer | nanothief: strange that it doesn't affect konqueror nor dolphin, and that it's only the fonts, nothing else |
| 01:05.24 | nanothief | hardcorelamer, try gimp and dia. If they do it as well, then its probably only affecting gtk apps |
| 01:05.37 | Chani | also: what would be useful things to do for scrollwheel on hte desktop background? change virtual desktops, change acttivity, zoom.... |
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| 01:07.16 | hardcorelamer | aumix is unaffected, kmymoney is affected |
| 01:07.33 | hardcorelamer | I don't have many apps on this yet |
| 01:09.15 | hardcorelamer | korganizer as well |
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| 01:10.58 | Chani | ...nobody wants features? |
| 01:11.01 | Chani | pouts |
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| 01:12.07 | hardcorelamer | it's probably the card, I need nvidia legacy 96 series drivers |
| 01:12.21 | hardcorelamer | but it's still strange which apps get affected and which don't |
| 01:13.02 | eljefe_thistime | Does anyone know if Kopete can run on Windows? |
| 01:13.15 | Qu4Z | Chani: I don't use the mouse sorry, so I don't really know. |
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| 01:13.25 | Happy | hardcorelamer: I think turning on anti-aliasing fixes this, does for me anyway, there's also a wine registry patch |
| 01:13.58 | Happy | It's a known bug, NVidia said they'd fix it last October and never have |
| 01:13.58 | Happy | No updates since then at all :( |
| 01:15.35 | maazu | times up! |
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| 01:15.52 | Happy | Chani: I thought that it should be up to plasmoid or something? |
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| 01:23.14 | hallowname | Chani: i thought i should tell you, you should ban my plasmoid (openbrain) from the screensaver. it can execute processes on its own thread. and start new ones. =/ |
| 01:23.24 | kdepepo | Chani, I use the popup menu with most used apps on my kde3 desktop (left mouse button, because I have no icons there) |
| 01:23.40 | kdepepo | so I can click and start anything without much moving |
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| 01:24.27 | kdepepo | Chani, would be nice to have that feature when I switch to KDE4 desktop :) |
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| 01:27.03 | Chani | kdepepo: I'm working on a soc proposal :) |
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| 01:29.12 | ajavid | hey |
| 01:29.14 | ajavid | I want features |
| 01:29.19 | ajavid | Chani, what are you offering |
| 01:29.29 | ajavid | you're the girl from Dune |
| 01:29.37 | ajavid | thats a cool nickname |
| 01:29.49 | kdepepo | Chani, oh... if you have resources for a bigger project, why not look at Pen/Tablet features (gestures, handwriting etc.) |
| 01:30.14 | kdepepo | Chani, I'd love to have a pen-friendly KDE... |
| 01:30.41 | kdepepo | Chani, e.g. the screen lock feature badly needs to call the on-screen-keyboard, so that I can type the password to unlock. |
| 01:31.08 | Chani | kdepepo: that'd be nice, but might be a bit too big for soc, and I don't have a tablet |
| 01:31.10 | kdepepo | Chani, the kdm on openSUSE does this, but only in kde3. |
| 01:31.18 | Chani | it does? |
| 01:31.22 | Chani | huh |
| 01:31.58 | MinceR | perhaps there's a patch on kde-apps? |
| 01:32.40 | kdepepo | Chani, if you are really interested, I could lend a tablet. You would need to install it yourself, though. |
| 01:36.36 | Chani | eh... I'm trying to do too much already |
| 01:39.12 | harry_ | anyone here knowledgeable in nepomuk? ........ I just found my .xsession-errors file @ 91GB... mostly from nepomuk |
| 01:41.33 | kdepepo | Chani, would be a HP TC1100, a Motion 1400, or a Stylistic ST :) |
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| 01:44.38 | DirkGently | how does KDE do spell checking now... just trying to see if bug #40945 has been addressed |
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| 01:59.00 | hagabaka | is there a way to remove the limit on a panel's maximum height? |
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| 02:39.38 | wilder | how do I make konsole start with --notransparency by default? |
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| 02:41.30 | G0-T0 | Does anyone know of a reason why kmenuedit doesn't save changes to the menu. Anytime I try to remove something nothing actually happens in the menu, however it isn't shown in the kmenueditor the next time I check... |
| 02:41.53 | G0-T0 | Is there a temp file that I need to remove? |
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| 02:50.41 | Chani | wilder: edit the menu entry for it |
| 02:50.56 | wilder | Chani: pardon me? |
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| 02:51.07 | Chani | for konsole |
| 02:51.08 | wilder | oh I see |
| 02:51.26 | Chani | although kde4 may have some bugs when it comes to editing thet menu |
| 02:51.40 | Samuel-NotAFK | Is nobody else extremely aggravated by KDE4 not letting us make the panel really thin and it appearing at the top of the screen? |
| 02:53.45 | wilder | mmh... |
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| 02:55.16 | wilder | i've to say it's not *immediate* to me how to do that |
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| 02:58.00 | derek_k | Samuel-NotAFK: you can put it on any edge and change the width |
| 02:58.03 | derek_k | what version? |
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| 02:59.37 | Samuel-NotAFK | derek_k: 4.2 |
| 02:59.45 | Samuel-NotAFK | derek_k: The height is what annoys me. |
| 03:00.53 | wilder | Samuel-NotAFK: what do you want to put in it? |
| 03:01.51 | Samuel-NotAFK | wilder: Stuff |
| 03:02.04 | Samuel-NotAFK | wilder: I only have 600 vertical pixels so it must be as small as possible. |
| 03:02.17 | wilder | yeah but.. a task manager? RSS? |
| 03:02.20 | derek_k | Samuel-NotAFK: autohide? |
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| 03:03.35 | Samuel-NotAFK | derek_k: no thanks |
| 03:03.37 | Samuel-NotAFK | wilder: rss yes |
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| 03:04.31 | wilder | well plasmoids would need some minimal height, an empty panel by itself can be resized quite happily |
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| 03:17.09 | johni | hello everybody, I documented a new software development process for open source projects and communities for my masters thesis |
| 03:17.26 | johni | I would need help from open source contributors to validate my work |
| 03:18.25 | johni | :) any help would be greatly appreciated and acknowledged |
| 03:21.18 | wilder | Chani: btw I couldn't find how to change the menu entry |
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| 03:23.17 | johni | nobody :( ? |
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| 03:39.44 | Chani | johni: kde's been pretty quiet on weekends recently |
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| 03:40.11 | Chani | johni: what sort of help? |
| 03:40.45 | johni | Chani: I have a survey and would feedback for my proposed process |
| 03:41.01 | johni | would need feedback |
| 03:41.15 | Chani | wilder: tried running kmenuedit? |
| 03:41.20 | johni | there are 7 simple questions |
| 03:41.30 | Chani | wilder: (for some reason that's not actually *in* kickoff... ugh) |
| 03:42.09 | johni | Chani: would you be interested in helping me? |
| 03:42.24 | Chani | johni: is the survey online somewhere? if you could post a url it'd probably be easier to get people in other timezones :) |
| 03:43.05 | johni | Chani: it is a google form and includes all the details |
| 03:43.13 | johni | let me post url |
| 03:43.55 | johni | http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=cFg5UUVKakwyOTJ2eDhNWDM5WUlfVlE6MA |
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| 03:46.16 | Chani | pages 39 to 60? |
| 03:46.24 | plutonian | what's the best way to configure file associations in kde 4.2? |
| 03:46.25 | johni | yeap |
| 03:46.32 | johni | Chani: yes |
| 03:46.44 | Chani | johni: sorry but I don't think many people will be willing to read 21 pages of your thesis :) |
| 03:46.45 | plutonian | there doesn't seem to be, for instance, a way to make it so that files of type .sh open with kate instead of kwrite by default |
| 03:47.17 | johni | Chani: my friends breezed through them, the 21 pages are double spaced and with lots of images |
| 03:47.37 | johni | Chani: I tried to keep everything at a minimum to make the reading as easy as possible |
| 03:47.39 | plutonian | nm, I just found it in the System Settings advanced tab |
| 03:48.28 | plutonian | although now I wish there was a way to globally prefer kate to kwrite, instead of changing it for each individual file type |
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| 03:49.58 | Chani | plutonian: there's a "kde components" section somewhere in settings... |
| 03:51.33 | Chani | johni: kde relies on "rigid contributor structures"? :P |
| 03:52.56 | johni | I cannot say that .... |
| 03:53.21 | johni | do not have much insight into KDE community |
| 03:53.38 | Chani | I think you need a "may" in that sentence, because as it stands it's flat-out wrong. kde definitely falls under the category of large number of contributors, and doesn't have much structure beyond "sumbit a few good patches and we'll tell you to get an svn accout" |
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| 03:56.02 | johni | Chani: you have a very good point, updated the sentence |
| 03:57.22 | Chani | :) |
| 03:57.26 | Chani | hmm. |
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| 03:58.08 | roshan08 | i am using kde 4.1 i use multiple desktops but whenever i switch to another desktop in the taskbar i can see application open from all desktops. How to disable this |
| 03:59.07 | Chani | will take "developers" and "code" to include non-code parts of the project like artwork |
| 03:59.14 | derek_k | roshan08: open on the taskbar you mean? |
| 03:59.46 | Chani | roshan08: the taskbar has a setting to show only the tasks from the current desktop |
| 04:00.51 | roshan08 | derek_k, whenever i change to a different desktop i can see all open application from all desktops |
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| 04:02.10 | Chani | roshan08: click the plasma logo at the end of your panel, then right-click one of those tasks you're seeing and click "Task Manager Settings" |
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| 04:03.33 | erika_p | Howdy. |
| 04:04.11 | erika_p | I am trying to set up KDE 4 on a Dell D610 with Intel 915GM graphics. I'm using openSUSE 11.1 (32-bit). |
| 04:04.24 | roshan08 | Chani, thanks man it used to be in desktop settings in kde 3.5 |
| 04:04.33 | erika_p | I let sax2 auto-configure graphics, and I appear to have DRI working, but I can't turn on desktop effects in KDE 4.2 |
| 04:04.43 | roshan08 | Chani, it was easy to locate then |
| 04:04.59 | erika_p | Is anyone familiar with the Intel 915GM chipset? |
| 04:06.36 | spawn57` | I'm not :\ |
| 04:06.42 | Chani | johni: hmm. due to the nature of the open source community, a "consumed entity" might occasionally be contributed to. I'm sure kde's use of svn brought some svn patches :) it is relatively rare though. |
| 04:07.10 | Chani | erika_p: I think I have that one. the drivers get worse every month... |
| 04:07.14 | johni | Chani: at that point I think the kde contributors become svn contributors |
| 04:07.15 | erika_p | Conversely, I find it hard to believe someone would contribute code to something they never use unless they were paid to do so. |
| 04:08.03 | erika_p | On the Ubuntu forums I'm reading that some people intentionally went back to old Intel drivers until the new ones are coming out in April. But in openSUSE, the drivers aren't packaged seperately from the kernel. I'm somewhat stuck with the newer ones. |
| 04:08.07 | Chani | johni: true. and since all developers are users, tehnically they do use "produced" entities |
| 04:08.09 | johni | Chani: the KDE community does not maintain a separate branch and build or svn; |
| 04:09.08 | erika_p | Hasn't there been talk of jumping to git for almost two years now? |
| 04:09.09 | Chani | johni: no, but we do have qt-copy |
| 04:09.21 | Chani | (at least for now... it won't be needed much longer) |
| 04:09.38 | Chani | erika_p: yes. nobody wants to actually write the scripts needed, though ;) |
| 04:09.42 | erika_p | I think git makes it eaiser for individual teams or developers to maintain seperate trees and not mess with trunk until they are done working on something. |
| 04:09.51 | johni | Chani: good point about developers and users but I think at that point a developer puts on the user hat |
| 04:09.57 | Chani | mmkay |
| 04:10.04 | Chani | erika_p: yes. |
| 04:10.45 | Chani | johni: oh, you put code and release into "mixed" anyways... |
| 04:11.03 | johni | Chani: ;) yeap |
| 04:12.16 | erika_p | I thought I read that Intel chipsets were actually the best for desktop effects and KDE 4. |
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| 04:12.47 | erika_p | I'm not sure why glxinfo says I have direct rendering working, and I get an opengl in games, but I can't turn on desktop effects. |
| 04:14.58 | Chani | erika_p: 6 months ago, they were. |
| 04:15.16 | Chani | intel has just been running hte drivers into the ground recently :P |
| 04:18.23 | erika_p | Wow. I turned on Compiz Fusion, and it works, but it is the slowest I have ever seen Compiz. And I've actually managed to install and get Compiz running on a GeForce 440. |
| 04:19.04 | Chani | still doesn't understand why people install compiz instead of turning on kwin's composite |
| 04:19.29 | erika_p | Normally I use KDE 3. But with this new install I was going to try KDE 4 and kwin's composite. |
| 04:19.50 | erika_p | Compiz "works" though absolutely horribly at the moment. kwin's composite won't even turn on with opengl or xrender. |
| 04:20.00 | erika_p | This driver must be in a pretty horrid state. |
| 04:20.17 | Chani | hmm. |
| 04:20.34 | Chani | an old version of my driver made kwin refyuse to turn on composite |
| 04:20.40 | erika_p | I really disliked the folder view applet and wasn't really interested in a KDE 4 session until I could make folder view a full screen containment. |
| 04:20.54 | Chani | but it works now. except that it keeps deciding it's too slow after a while and turning it off |
| 04:21.25 | Chani | and composite and hibernate don't seem to get along well |
| 04:21.30 | Chani | ' anywaysa, I was going |
| 04:21.38 | erika_p | I should clarify, I don't mind the functionality of the folder view applet. I just didn't like the look of the applet on my desktop. |
| 04:22.03 | erika_p | Thanks for the advise. I guess I'm waiting for the next version of intel drivers. |
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| 04:42.23 | AmyRose | When I sort the favorites menu on Kickstart, why doesn't KDE remember this when I log out? |
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| 04:48.43 | nanothief | Is there a way to force applications to appear at the front when they are run? Many apps I launch from konsole appear behind other windows |
| 04:49.23 | nanothief | I've tried kstart --activate, but I would like a more general solution. Also, kstart terminates immediantly, not waiting for the gui app to end (which I don't want) |
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| 04:51.02 | johni | Chani: how is the reading? interesting, boring? |
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| 06:11.52 | Ringtailed-Fox | hiya... whenever i try to detect new plugins for konqueror (like flash or java) it seems to stop at 90%... konqueror is fully-responsive and lets me cancel the search, but i'm concerned about the whole failing to finish bit |
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| 06:51.54 | Chani | johni: dinner's pretty much put me to sleep, I'll finish reading it tomorrow... |
| 06:52.16 | johni | Chani: no rush, thank you for your time |
| 06:52.25 | Chani | np |
| 06:52.52 | Ringtailed-Fox | what's the difference between KDE 3.5.9 and 3.5.10? |
| 06:53.26 | Chani | Ringtailed-Fox: bugfixes |
| 06:53.43 | Ringtailed-Fox | should i upgrade to it? i have to uninstall 3.5.9 in order to do so... (i can do it from xfce) |
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| 07:00.22 | AmyRose | Ringtailed-Fox: What distro? |
| 07:00.28 | Ringtailed-Fox | mandriva |
| 07:00.54 | AmyRose | Ringtailed-Fox: It seems odd that you'd have to uninstall 3.5.9 to upgrade to 3.5.10, but it's probably a good idea to upgrade |
| 07:01.54 | Ringtailed-Fox | well, it's not an official port. official ports are either mdk (mandrake), mnb (Manbo), or mdv (mandriva) |
| 07:02.12 | Ringtailed-Fox | the version of 3.5.10 is mde (mandriva.de)...a custom mirror |
| 07:02.21 | Ringtailed-Fox | mde is also known as mud |
| 07:02.28 | Ringtailed-Fox | there are others, like mib (mandriva italy0 |
| 07:02.37 | Ringtailed-Fox | and seekerofsouls (SoS) |
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| 07:47.06 | dvv_ | здеÑÑ ÑÑÑкие еÑÑÑ? |
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| 08:05.48 | serenity | hi |
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| 08:31.50 | Guest52833 | How to change Nickname here on IRC ? |
| 08:32.03 | serenity | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:32.25 | GNU\colossus | :D |
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| 08:33.43 | comawhite | SELF: why are you running IRC as root? |
| 08:34.26 | SELF | How to do proper login ? |
| 08:34.38 | SELF | Plz guide me |
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| 08:36.12 | SELF | comawhite : Plz tell |
| 08:36.25 | comawhite | don't login as roto |
| 08:36.27 | comawhite | root* |
| 08:36.31 | comawhite | just as a normal user |
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| 08:37.20 | SELF | ok |
| 08:37.28 | SELF | I will relogin my Distro |
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| 08:45.57 | mib_41ki03 | *login |
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| 10:17.19 | l3u | Hi :-) I am using the plasma newsreader. It worked fine, but now, it does not fetch any news anymore (without an update or a config change). How can I find out what's wrong? Like getting some messages on the console? |
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| 10:17.26 | frinux | hi |
| 10:17.44 | frinux | I have a little problem with kde : when I exit or diconnect, kde doesn't remember the applications that where launched so that they are not restored at the next boot. For example if amarok is started when I exit, it won't be back at the next boot |
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| 10:22.46 | MaNI | frinux, do you have restore previous session selected in session manager? |
| 10:23.29 | l3u | Is there a way to start a plasma applet from the console so one can read some messages? |
| 10:23.33 | frinux | yep MaNI |
| 10:24.00 | jazka | l3u: plasmoidviewer |
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| 10:28.02 | l3u | jazka: Ah, thanks! Using the rssnow applet, I get 'KServiceFactory::findServiceByDesktopPath: "findServiceByDesktopPath: not found"' and then only 'News::connectToEngine: Connect to source: ...' ... and nothing happens. Do you have an idead what's wrong with it? |
| 10:28.33 | jazka | no idea |
| 10:29.06 | l3u | Same thing with the news applet ... that's strange |
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| 10:52.38 | nighteagle | hi everyone |
| 10:53.19 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 10:53.28 | nighteagle | can someone please telle me how to have the contextuel option that gives the ability to open an iso9660 image on konqueror? |
| 10:54.36 | nighteagle | i was used to have it in the past, but now that i reinstalled my system, i don't know what do i have to install to have it activated |
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| 10:59.01 | nighteagle | is there someone who can help me? |
| 10:59.18 | nighteagle | or want? |
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| 11:03.53 | smurfslover | nighteagle: you'll never know if you don't ask a question |
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| 11:06.04 | nighteagle | can someone please tell me how to have the contextuel option that gives the ability to open an iso9660 image on konqueror? |
| 11:06.17 | nighteagle | smurfslover: can someone please tell me how to have the contextuel option that gives the ability to open an iso9660 image on konqueror? |
| 11:06.42 | nighteagle | and i asked previously! |
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| 11:07.23 | smurfslover | nighteagle: distribution |
| 11:07.26 | smurfslover | ? |
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| 11:07.45 | nighteagle | smurfslover: kubuntu |
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| 11:08.18 | smurfslover | apt-cache search kio |
| 11:08.30 | smurfslover | package should be called kio-iso something |
| 11:08.37 | nighteagle | smurfslover: i had the option in the past, but now, i don't know how to have it again, thank u, i'm going to try |
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| 11:12.59 | Aaqil_ | hello |
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| 11:23.07 | serraemeira | Hello guys! |
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| 11:24.35 | nighteagle | smurfslover: it worked after i installed krusader, haha |
| 11:24.42 | nighteagle | smurfslover: thank you ;) |
| 11:25.08 | serraemeira | I am using 3.5.10 with debian lenny. My desktop's icons fonts have changed.....before they were white and now they are black....very strange because a have not made any configuration change....the the is right the same I was using before |
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| 11:25.41 | serraemeira | So...could you help me with this strange KDE's behavior |
| 11:25.42 | serraemeira | ? |
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| 11:26.18 | serraemeira | ..the theme is right the same I was using before |
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| 11:48.25 | cumulus007 | Where does kde store its's appearance settings, like the GUI style? |
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| 11:55.56 | non7top | hello all |
| 11:56.20 | non7top | can someone point me to the location of new kcontrol in svn tree? |
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| 12:03.06 | SSJ_GZ | non7top: playground: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/kcontrol4/ |
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| 12:03.39 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
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| 12:04.00 | Rapp | i am using kde 4.2, using the oxygen theme and style. the colors are inverted (white text, dark background) |
| 12:04.45 | Rapp | this works well with KDE apps. but all Qt4 apps have white text with light grey background. why? qtconfig tells me to use the kde control center to set the palette, however that says background is dark grey |
| 12:05.32 | SerpensV | you've set the inverted colors or did they do it themselves? |
| 12:06.32 | Foriskak | I seem to have lost the ability to click in KDE 4 using Xinerama |
| 12:06.48 | Foriskak | thankfully I know a lot of keyboard shortcuts...hwo to fix this? |
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| 12:06.58 | g-hennux | hi! |
| 12:07.29 | g-hennux | i can't upload data from quanta using the fish://-protocol any more (just installed quanta in kde 4.2.1), any idea what i'm missing? |
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| 12:07.52 | Rapp | SerpensV: i used the zion reversed theme of kde 4.2 |
| 12:08.09 | Foriskak | anybody have any clue why I can't click? |
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| 12:08.22 | Foriskak | What process is even responsible for this? |
| 12:09.36 | Rapp | Foriskak: maybe some process grabbed the pointer and never released it? did you try logging out and in again? |
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| 12:10.55 | Foriskak | no...but how do I logout without the mouse? The keyboard shortcut I don't rememeber |
| 12:11.09 | Rapp | alt+f1 might get you the k-menu |
| 12:11.21 | Foriskak | Rapp: it might have been kwrite...it was causing massive cpu usage on Xorg during scrolling |
| 12:11.25 | Rapp | otherwise, hard log out with ctrl+alt+backspace (all programs get killed= |
| 12:11.27 | SerpensV | alt+ctrl+del logouts |
| 12:11.37 | Foriskak | let me try killing kwrite first |
| 12:11.54 | Rapp | anyone have an idea for my color theme problem? |
| 12:11.55 | SerpensV | or at least gives the menu with the option |
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| 12:12.34 | Rapp | are keyboard shortcuts back in kde 4.2? like prtscreen for ksnapshot and the like? |
| 12:12.59 | Foriskak | that didn't do it |
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| 12:14.01 | Foriskak | and back |
| 12:14.03 | Foriskak | damn I love this 10K drive |
| 12:14.16 | Foriskak | but seriously...why would I lose the mouse |
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| 12:15.07 | Foriskak | also.... has anyone gotten compositing or the windows effects to work with xinerama? |
| 12:15.23 | g-hennux | Foriskak: afaik, i do :) |
| 12:15.33 | Foriskak | do tell |
| 12:15.35 | Foriskak | please |
| 12:15.41 | g-hennux | what? |
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| 12:15.54 | Foriskak | how did you get it to work? |
| 12:16.03 | Foriskak | what video card? |
| 12:16.29 | Rapp | Foriskak: what video card do /you/ use? |
| 12:16.47 | g-hennux | nothign special, i installed the nvidia proprietary drivers, modified xorg.conf to contain TwinView etc. and it worked |
| 12:16.47 | Rapp | with NVIDIA i usually don't use xinerama, just plain twinview, which is more flexible. |
| 12:16.49 | Foriskak | geforce 6800gt |
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| 12:17.10 | Rapp | Foriskak: well then just use nvidia-settings (as root) to configure twinview, and scrap xinerama |
| 12:17.16 | Foriskak | Rapp: sure, but then how do you deal with windows annoyingly spanning accross instead of staying within one monitor |
| 12:17.27 | Rapp | i use xinerama only on my quad-head quadro machines for stereo rendering |
| 12:17.41 | Rapp | Foriskak: kwin should be able to still see two displays |
| 12:17.49 | Rapp | and stretch only to one screen |
| 12:17.56 | Foriskak | Rapp: not what happened, hmm |
| 12:18.00 | Rapp | hmm |
| 12:18.10 | Rapp | have used twinview only on kde 3.5 though. it worked fine there. |
| 12:18.18 | Rapp | my 4.2.1 machine has only one head :-) |
| 12:18.22 | Foriskak | heh |
| 12:18.42 | g-hennux | the window maximizing problem doesn't apply for me; twinview works as intended |
| 12:19.04 | Foriskak | g-hennux: what about display windows and the improved alt-tab switchers |
| 12:19.06 | Foriskak | do they span? |
| 12:19.10 | Foriskak | does anything whatsoever span? |
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| 12:19.55 | g-hennux | nothing spans across two screens, except if i move the windows manually to do so |
| 12:20.22 | Rapp | found my problem: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168200 |
| 12:20.33 | g-hennux | maybe one reason that it works fine here is that i have different resolutions on the two screens :) |
| 12:21.20 | Foriskak | g-hennux: heh, yeah I have identical resolution |
| 12:21.43 | Rapp | that should not make a difference |
| 12:21.44 | Foriskak | g-hennux: have you gotten xinerama to work with compositing though? |
| 12:21.55 | g-hennux | Foriskak: well, twinview, not native xinerama |
| 12:21.59 | Rapp | i use twinview on laptops with kde 3.5 all the time, and windows maximize only to one screen |
| 12:22.02 | g-hennux | but i have compositing |
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| 12:22.31 | Foriskak | ok...so it seems route is to find out why twinview spans as opposed to trying to get xinerama+compositnig to work |
| 12:22.41 | Rapp | i have a quad-head stereo setup with xinerama at work... gotta take a look if it supports compositing. definitely not via the composite extension, since that collides with stereo though. |
| 12:23.21 | Foriskak | yes, that's what I've found |
| 12:24.33 | Rapp | i would try twinview, and get the windows to maximize on one screen. twinview is great |
| 12:25.03 | Rapp | nvidia-settings can do the xorg.conf setup for you, but kick out the xinerama stuff first, and make backup copies |
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| 12:31.04 | Foriskak | just tried twinview |
| 12:31.06 | Foriskak | it works! |
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| 12:32.40 | cumulus007 | The shortcut PrintScreen doesn't open KSnapShot anymore |
| 12:32.49 | cumulus007 | how to get it working again? |
| 12:33.17 | Foriskak | however...the display windows does span (minor) and thumbnails of the windows when using the stack switch are grainy, hmm |
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| 12:56.18 | aroedl | Hey guys. How can I find out which widgets/plasmoids are currently loaded? |
| 12:59.14 | SerpensV | in the add widgets window |
| 13:00.27 | SerpensV | in the combobox you can choose to see only currently used |
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| 13:01.05 | aroedl | Oh sweet. Thanks. Never clicked the combo box. :) |
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| 13:05.31 | ByteMe | is there anyone here to help |
| 13:05.50 | ByteMe | I need flash to work in f10 |
| 13:06.12 | ByteMe | I havent found any forums to work for me |
| 13:06.54 | ByteMe | either says bad commmand or cant find file |
| 13:07.37 | SerpensV | use swfdec or add adobe repo |
| 13:07.38 | ByteMe | or 'there was an error, but never tells me what the error was |
| 13:07.50 | SerpensV | and ask on #fedora not #kde |
| 13:08.06 | ByteMe | do I do that throught the package manager? |
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| 13:16.53 | purpleprocessor | im using kmail 1.11.0 kde 4.2, and the spell checking is replacing the wrong text.. it will know ive spelt the word wrong but replace to the left of the spelling mistake.. somekind of regex error i guess where are the spelling preferences in kmail.. works fine in kwrite but it has adifferent interface? |
| 13:17.12 | pumphaus | + |
| 13:17.19 | pumphaus | oops, cat on keyboard |
| 13:17.53 | SerpensV | you will create a new programming language |
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| 13:23.53 | a3Dman | ohai |
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| 13:30.55 | non7top | SSJ_GZ: thanks a lot |
| 13:31.00 | sheytan | Hi, i have a problem. When i run an app from krunner and them close it, it become a zombie process :/ Why? The same thing when i try to logout it doesnt work. when i restart the X server and log into KDE again, all of left programs are zombies |
| 13:32.26 | SSJ_GZ | non7top: np |
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| 14:05.28 | nondysjunction | hello |
| 14:05.44 | nondysjunction | What KDE service is responsible for forcing font DPI at KDE start? |
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| 14:11.23 | Nakkel | Is there any plans to bring back the option to span one background picture over two or more displays? If I want one big panorama picture on all my displays I have to cut it to pieces, which isnt too nice. :/ |
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| 14:19.12 | lasith | hi guys, |
| 14:19.35 | lasith | im getting this error when select fn keys 'he key you just pressed isn't supported by Qt.' |
| 14:20.08 | lasith | any one know the solution 4 this |
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| 14:40.29 | InkBottle | Can I fixe/modify konsole width (in number of columns), from konsole itself? (I'm not sure I am clear :) ) |
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| 14:45.22 | nondysjunction | Hello. |
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| 14:48.09 | nondysjunction | How does KDE set up forcing font DPI to 120? |
| 14:48.21 | nondysjunction | does it set it in syscoca or something? |
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| 14:50.33 | farhad_hf | nondysjunction: in kde 4.2 : system settings-->appearance-->fonts-->force fonts DPI |
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| 14:54.00 | nondysjunction | farhad_hf: I meant how /it/ does it, not how do I do it... |
| 14:54.16 | nondysjunction | farhad_hf: Though I did figure it out, so all is well :) |
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| 15:00.13 | Rapp | out of curiosity... can anyone explain to me the idea behind the kde 4 desktop and dashboard? why are the two not separate? why can't i drag and drop files easily anymore onto the desktop? |
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| 15:05.53 | annma | you can't? |
| 15:05.58 | annma | from where to where? |
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| 15:08.37 | Rapp | annma: oh, it works again! it did not work in pre kde 4.2. :) |
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| 15:12.10 | Gentle | just wanted to say, works since 4.2 |
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| 15:15.43 | Rapp | but still, why not have the widgets separated into dedicated dashboard? or can i do this also? |
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| 15:22.27 | rdieter | nondysjunction: kde uses X's notion of dpi, ie, output of: xdpyinfo | grep resolution |
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| 15:28.05 | Ratfink | How do I change the time zone displayed on the clock widget in 3.5 to EST? |
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| 15:32.35 | Scoobaspeaz | Ratfink: if you right click on the clock and select clock settings doesnt it give you an option to change the time zone? |
| 15:32.48 | Scoobaspeaz | im using kde 4.2.1 so im just going by memory |
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| 15:33.17 | Scoobaspeaz | ratfink1 |
| 15:33.26 | Scoobaspeaz | if you right click on the clock and select clock settings doesnt it give you an option to change the time zone? |
| 15:33.31 | Scoobaspeaz | im using kde 4.2.1 so im just going by memory |
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| 15:35.43 | Meizirkki | it there anything i can do to stop nepomuk? |
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| 15:35.57 | Meizirkki | it slows my n810 down |
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| 15:42.52 | cb400f | Meizirkki: systemsettings -> advanced -> desktop search |
| 15:43.09 | Meizirkki | phew, thanks a lot >( |
| 15:43.11 | Meizirkki | oops |
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| 15:43.32 | Meizirkki | wrong smiley :) |
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| 15:45.12 | szal | say.. is the number of rows in the taskbar a function of font size and panel size? |
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| 15:46.59 | Ratfink | I have the "Configure Clock" window open, and it is on the timezone tab. |
| 15:47.22 | Ratfink | I see about 500 zillion items under "America" |
| 15:47.32 | Ratfink | many of which seem to be the same time zone |
| 15:47.43 | Ratfink | but I don't see anything like "EST" |
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| 15:49.50 | szal | Ratfink: then use one of those commented w/ "Eastern Time" |
| 15:50.29 | szal | I suspect this is timezone selection for dummies.. look at the places listed and take what is nearest to you ;) |
| 15:50.32 | Ratfink | no, because those use EDT |
| 15:50.37 | Ratfink | I want EST |
| 15:50.57 | Ratfink | I think I found one that doesn't use EDT |
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| 15:51.05 | szal | has Daylight time already started in North America? |
| 15:51.08 | Ratfink | "Atikokan" |
| 15:51.32 | Ratfink | yeah, it has started |
| 15:51.39 | szal | I thought they were due to adjust clocks in early April.. |
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| 15:51.54 | Ratfink | no, they changed it to early march for some reason |
| 15:51.58 | szal | here in Europe we have 3 weeks of standard time left |
| 15:52.00 | Ratfink | it changed today |
| 15:52.34 | Ratfink | I don't want to use Daylight Saving time |
| 15:52.40 | szal | we'll switch on 29 March |
| 15:53.11 | szal | if I were to decide, I'd use Daylight Saving Time all year round |
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| 15:53.23 | Ratfink | why? |
| 15:53.31 | Ratfink | that doesn't make sense to me |
| 15:54.03 | szal | 1. no more adjusting; 2. still makes the evenings brighter |
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| 15:55.09 | Ratfink | the way I see it, daylight saving is just the government's way of messing with our brains |
| 15:55.30 | szal | it sure is |
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| 15:56.30 | Ratfink1 | standard time is much closer to solar time, which has noon when the sun is at it's peak. |
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| 15:56.55 | szal | that largely depends on your location |
| 15:57.40 | Shaan7 | when i try to diff a .ui file, i get lots of lines, because the my designer changes, for example <a href="abc" > to <a href="abc">, so should i submit this large patch? |
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| 16:03.33 | szal | say.. is the number of rows in the taskbar a function of font size and panel size? |
| 16:03.53 | szal | because I suddenly have 2 rows in the taskbar -->> http://picpaste.com/20090308_fullscreen.png |
| 16:04.12 | szal | (not a problem at all, just surprises me :)) |
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| 16:18.03 | Half-Left | haha, another convert to Linux, Windows wiped :p |
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| 16:24.11 | deitarion | Is it a known problem that Taskbar Thumbnails only updates thumbnails of video windows for the regions that are overlapping the window being thumbnailed? (eg. With Konqueror+KMplayer or Konqueror+DragonPart maximized, only the part of the thumbnail overlapping the actual video frame will get updated) |
| 16:25.48 | deitarion | Given that the non-updated parts do get updated while Plasma is doing the fade in/out animation, I suspect it's the same problem which makes the snow effect appear to freeze once the dashboard finishes fading in. |
| 16:27.13 | deitarion | Oh, and I've tested it with KMplayer using XVideo, X11Shm, OpenGL, and OpenGL MT output. No difference. |
| 16:28.02 | deitarion | I'll add it to my bug reporting todo list if I don't get a response in the next 15 minutes or so which indicates that it's already known. |
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| 16:30.29 | soa2ii | Hi there. If I want to sync my mobile phone and KDE with SyncML... what is the way to do so? |
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| 16:38.25 | jaf1230 | I'm running amarok, and when skipping through a large number of songs, I get the "Large lag" message that tells me I should install kdebindings3-python/python-kde3, but that package doesn't exist. Has it moved? |
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| 16:39.14 | szal | jaf1230: that question is better suited at the guys'n'gals of your distro |
| 16:39.34 | jaf1230 | ok |
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| 16:48.38 | cumulus007 | how to remove a plasmoid from the terminal? |
| 16:48.41 | cumulus007 | I mean |
| 16:48.48 | cumulus007 | how to remove a plasmoid using the commandline? |
| 16:50.21 | mini-man | when I toggle compositing, my panels grow. is this a known bug and is there a workaround for it or not yet? |
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| 16:50.47 | Half-Left | grow? |
| 16:50.57 | mini-man | grow. |
| 16:51.00 | mini-man | in height |
| 16:51.24 | mini-man | I have a panel at the top of my screen housing Xbar from bespin, a clock, and a few other widgets, and everytime I turn off compositing or on, it grows in height |
| 16:51.32 | mini-man | and my bottom panel does that every so often as well |
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| 16:51.57 | mini-man | it's annoying, i have to constantly resize the top panel |
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| 16:52.20 | Half-Left | I have a panel at the top and it dont do that |
| 16:52.37 | mini-man | hmm, might just be xbar then |
| 16:53.09 | molin | are all plasmoids, as well as the panel, in the same process? |
| 16:53.21 | Half-Left | Yes |
| 16:53.26 | molin | can I force a restart of this? |
| 16:53.35 | molin | is this going to change? |
| 16:53.40 | mini-man | kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop |
| 16:53.44 | mini-man | iirc |
| 16:53.45 | Half-Left | kquitapp plasma && plasma |
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| 16:54.06 | mofrad | I have problems with compositing |
| 16:54.08 | Half-Left | plasma-desktop is 4.3trunk |
| 16:54.12 | mofrad | can anyone help? |
| 16:54.33 | Half-Left | What problems |
| 16:54.39 | mofrad | I am using kde 4.2 |
| 16:55.17 | mofrad | and have installed latest nvidia drivers, which seem to work correct; also the xorg.conf has glx module and compositing enable option |
| 16:55.27 | mofrad | KDE 4.2 does not allow kwin effects |
| 16:56.31 | molin | hmm, kquitapp says it can't find an application called plasma, what could be wrong then? is DBUS broken somehow? |
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| 17:01.07 | molin | i know that this might not be the right forum, but is it really a good thing to have your whole desktop in the same process? |
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| 17:02.59 | Half-Left | molin: Depends how you look at it |
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| 17:07.42 | molin | well, i can understand that plasmoids can interact more easily, but it does feel less stable :/ |
| 17:09.47 | Half-Left | If you want a proper explaination, ask the #plasma guys |
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| 17:32.17 | Bryan_Sierra | Hi, I seem to be having an issue with key bindings. Yakuake won't allow me to bind anything to the extract/contract key. It worked fine in 4.2.0; so I'm assuming that upgrading to 4.2.1 broke it. Is there a special place where the global shortcuts are kept? (Other than systemsettings. Because I looked there; and found that the key I wanted to set yakuake to use wasn't taken up by anything.) |
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| 17:33.02 | Crissi | hello |
| 17:33.04 | Crissi | i have problems starting akonadi on kde4 svn |
| 17:33.11 | Crissi | http://paste.debian.net/30073 |
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| 17:38.09 | Half-Left | Seems 4.2.1 broke a few things, window focus is abit broken here |
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| 17:47.22 | mxttie|laptop | after having built qt-copy do I have to do anything else except adding the bin dir to PATH and setting QTDIR? I have a build error which seems to indicate that it uses the wrong qt (although I passed the configure step which detects version) |
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| 17:48.25 | Roey | greetings, citizens of KDE. |
| 17:48.41 | Roey | How do I enable this glowing blue border around active windows? |
| 17:48.46 | CuteAlien | hi! I updated to debian-lenny and try getting kmail working with old settings. It takes all except the pop-accounts - they are still in the kmail folder but no longer used. Anyone got an idea? |
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| 17:49.31 | CuteAlien | with updated I mean - I installed new and copied all . files from old home folder over. |
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| 17:50.33 | Half-Left | Roey: It's just the shadow which takes the colour settings from kde colour scheme in 4.2 |
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| 17:52.50 | Roey | Half-Left: oh... ok |
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| 17:53.33 | danny_b85 | how do I pass the value of the directory I right click to the command I want to execute via servicemenus? |
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| 17:54.56 | purpleprocessor | im using kmail 1.11.0 kde 4.2, and the spell checking is replacing the wrong text.. it will know ive spelt the word wrong but replace to the left of the spelling mistake.. somekind of regex error i guess where are the spelling preferences in kmail.. works fine in kwrite but it has adifferent interface? |
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| 17:57.57 | Roey | purpleprocessor: aaaaaaahahaha, wonderful nick |
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| 18:08.36 | gr1m-lap | kde spotted in the wild! I saw it on a POS system at the AutoZone store here :P |
| 18:09.01 | Vistaus | hi I have a problem: plasma keeps crashing since today. I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4.2.1 and this is the output: http://rafb.net/p/tZALZE37.html |
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| 18:10.55 | tuxick | anyone know why alt-f1 is simply ignored in kde4 series? |
| 18:11.08 | tuxick | it's defined for "application launcher" |
| 18:11.39 | Half-Left | Vistaus: Another Kubuntu user :) |
| 18:11.44 | Vistaus | anuone? |
| 18:12.09 | Half-Left | Seems to be a Kubuntu/Ubuntu issue |
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| 18:12.40 | tuxick | you mean there's systems where 4.2 is stable? |
| 18:12.47 | Vistaus | so what can i do about it? |
| 18:12.56 | Vistaus | it started today |
| 18:12.58 | Half-Left | Ask your distro |
| 18:13.06 | Vistaus | ok |
| 18:15.53 | g2g591 | (thats the main reason why I left Kubuntu... even way back in 4.0 Kubuntu introduced many bugs that other distros didn't have) |
| 18:16.23 | Half-Left | This is true |
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| 18:16.39 | Bryan_Sierra | I can only expand/contract yakuake if it's ran by root. Any suggestions? |
| 18:16.43 | Vistaus | yup its true |
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| 18:17.55 | CuteAlien | got it! Running kconf_update manually on my kmailrc got me my accounts back :-) |
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| 18:22.13 | sparr | how can I make kde listen to the mouse wheel and the keyboard to keep the screensaver at bay, instead of just mouse movement and clicks? |
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| 18:22.44 | Vistaus | hmm my distro says to ask here :S |
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| 18:25.46 | g2g591 | Vistaus: is there any partiular thing you do before it crashes? or does it just randomly crash? and how often if randomly? |
| 18:26.23 | Vistaus | it crashes after logging in. I haven´ t had the problem before, it started today |
| 18:26.56 | g2g591 | Vistaus: ah... then its 99.9% probabily your distro's fault ... most of us are using kde 4.2.1 just fine |
| 18:27.18 | g2g591 | well.. more like 85% , but w/e |
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| 18:27.43 | Vistaus | yeah, I read more people have it. but don´ t you have a suggestion what I can try to fix it? |
| 18:27.54 | g2g591 | nope |
| 18:28.17 | Vistaus | what do people on other distros then when plasma won´ t start? |
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| 18:28.28 | g2g591 | other than switch distros.. but thats not very helpful (if you do end up going this route i recommend Opensuse if your still pretty in experianced) |
| 18:28.43 | aeRoSoL_ | delete .kde4 and log back in |
| 18:28.49 | g2g591 | Vistaus: well, i have a couple config files you could move |
| 18:29.03 | Vistaus | ok i wanna try that |
| 18:29.33 | Vistaus | opensuse... I already have it on a computer here but i think its not as user friendly as kubuntu |
| 18:29.41 | g2g591 | Vistaus: move .kde4/share/config/plasmarc to somewhere else , and do the same with .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
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| 18:30.19 | g2g591 | Vistaus: Kubuntu has more gui tools and stuff... but i dont consider screwing up plasma user friendly |
| 18:30.32 | Half-Left | Ugh, Opensuse |
| 18:30.37 | Vistaus | ok I´ m going to try that this half our |
| 18:30.42 | Vistaus | hour* |
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| 18:31.13 | g2g591 | Vistaus: yeah.. moving those files to some other place will have plasma use its default configuration and regenerate the menus and everything, so.. that might fix it |
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| 18:32.34 | Vistaus | ok |
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| 18:32.53 | [mors] | hi folks |
| 18:33.13 | [mors] | 1) where does kde4 store the current locale info (as in, the country the user chooses in System Settings>Regional) |
| 18:34.13 | [mors] | 2) where does kde4 store file type associations (as in, which program opens each file type)? |
| 18:34.50 | Vistaus | 2) System settings>>>Advanced>>>File associations or something similiar |
| 18:35.13 | [mors] | Vistaus: thanks, I«m really asking the physical location on the hd where the info is saved |
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| 18:35.22 | [mors] | like the file or something |
| 18:36.22 | Vistaus | sorry, read it wrong |
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| 18:47.38 | zly | Hi, i'm trying to launch an application (ksnapshot) using qdbus: qdbus org.kde.klauncher /KLauncher kdeinit_exec "ksnapshot" "" "" "" |
| 18:48.17 | zly | ksnapshot seems to exit immediately, but qdbus does print its pid though |
| 18:48.53 | zly | If i call the method from qdbusviewer, ksnapshot runs as expected. What am i doing wrong ? |
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| 18:56.00 | Kream | Hi all :) Running KDE 4.2.1 on Gentoo, it's totally gorgeous with the in-built compositing |
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| 18:56.12 | Kream | My gf just walked in and went "wow, I want that on my windows machine" |
| 18:58.05 | Kream | A few questions, though. 1. Is it possible to adjust the transparency of individual windows ? |
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| 18:59.45 | pumphaus | Kream: right click on the title bar -> opacity -> choose the opacity you like |
| 18:59.54 | Kream | ahh thanks :) |
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| 19:02.21 | Kream | second question, I have a dual monitor and use 2560x1024 wallpapers which used to be stretchable across both screens. In the plasma workspace screen, in the positioning dropdown box, I see scaled, tiled etc etc - but nothing about being able to display the single wallpaper across both screens. |
| 19:02.44 | Kream | I used to be able to do this in kde 3. |
| 19:02.54 | Kream | How do I continue to do it in 4.2.1 ? |
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| 19:04.16 | g2g591 | Kream: you may want to check systemsettings >> Display |
| 19:04.45 | Vistaus | thanks, plasma is bakc now :D |
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| 19:05.15 | g2g591 | Vistaus: ah.. your config must have somehow gotten messed up |
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| 19:08.12 | Kream | g2g591: no, that's got stuff about my screen resolution, power control and gamma |
| 19:08.20 | Kream | I'm talking about the wallpaper, that's all |
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| 19:11.14 | g2g591 | Kream: does the panel extend over to the 2nd screen? |
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| 19:24.01 | Kream | g2g591: no |
| 19:24.15 | Kream | if by panel you mean taskbar |
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| 19:25.48 | phorsyon | is there a way to make kde auto turn off compositing when playing 3d games in fullscreen? |
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| 19:26.51 | FreakGuard | I'm still wondering why kopete knotify messages just blink... any ideas? |
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| 19:28.03 | Half-Left | phorsyon: No just use the keyboard shortcut to turn it off |
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| 19:29.11 | [mors] | phorsyon: compiz has a plugin to disable itself on full screen apps |
| 19:29.34 | phorsyon | Half-Left: that's to inconvenient |
| 19:29.45 | [mors] | phorsyon: and after some time I got tired of compositing... :p it's good for hype and to attract new users, but bad for overall user experience |
| 19:30.05 | Half-Left | Well thats all their is |
| 19:30.13 | Half-Left | there* |
| 19:30.28 | phorsyon | [mors]: i won't switch to compiz. kwin has enough eye candy for me. |
| 19:30.49 | [mors] | phorsyon: nor have I suggested that |
| 19:30.53 | Half-Left | And that plugin doesn't work with wine games :p |
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| 19:31.01 | phorsyon | isn't there a way to trigger it via dbus? |
| 19:32.04 | Half-Left | Whats the big deal to hit Alt, Shift, f12 before playing a game |
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| 19:32.18 | g2g591 | phorsyon: probabily... you might want to look at the source code of that one plasmoid that toggles composting |
| 19:33.11 | szal | composting? o0 |
| 19:33.24 | szal | I'm sure that would be a nice feature for some though :D |
| 19:33.41 | Half-Left | The proper name for desktop effects |
| 19:33.57 | szal | nah, not exactly ;) |
| 19:34.54 | Half-Left | Well it is because without composisting your desktop effects are useless :p |
| 19:35.03 | Half-Left | compositing* |
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| 19:36.31 | szal | composting -->> connect your machine to your compost pile in the garden and monitor bioactivity ;) |
| 19:37.23 | Half-Left | Compositing :) |
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| 19:38.22 | DexterF | hi |
| 19:38.28 | DexterF | serious problem with kmail (3.5.10) |
| 19:38.47 | DexterF | created a new account, new identity, didn't work, thought "screw it", deleted them both again. |
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| 19:39.16 | DexterF | now sent an email with my regular account and it keepe telling me "failed, sender != account" |
| 19:39.27 | DexterF | "wrong protocol" |
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| 19:42.44 | Half-Left | Since I delete the nvidia lines out of my xorg.conf, kwin effects are smoother and so is firefox scrolling |
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| 19:51.30 | mountainjew | is it normal to need a restart for newly installed programs to show up in the kicker menu? |
| 19:52.06 | engineer | no |
| 19:52.30 | mountainjew | hmmm, wonder what would cause that....it's happening with every program i install =( |
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| 19:52.39 | engineer | just wanted to tell that if you move a copying dialog down below the taskbar it crashes plasma |
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| 19:53.53 | Kream | g2g591: hi, just filed a comment on Bug # 164779 on a workaround :) thanks for your help |
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| 19:57.54 | phorsyon | g2g591: are you sure toggling of compositing is done via a plasmoid and not by kwin itself? |
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| 20:00.48 | g2g591 | phorsyon: its done by kwin itself, but theres a plasmoid on kde-look or kde-apps (cant remember which has plasmoids) that can do it |
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| 20:01.51 | Half-Left | You still have to click it, keyboard shortcut it just as quick |
| 20:01.55 | Mojo_risin | hi. my plasma keeps crashing on startup on no valid backtrace can be extracted. how can i investigate this? |
| 20:02.28 | Half-Left | Mojo_risin: Distro? |
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| 20:02.45 | Mojo_risin | kubuntu 8.10 |
| 20:02.56 | Half-Left | what a surprise! |
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| 20:03.07 | Mojo_risin | :) |
| 20:03.23 | Mojo_risin | since my last update my desktop is kaput |
| 20:03.28 | Half-Left | You'll have to ask them, it seems to only affect Kubuntu |
| 20:03.38 | Mojo_risin | known issue? |
| 20:03.47 | [mors] | where do the kompare devs hang out ? |
| 20:03.59 | Half-Left | Some peopel have said the same thing for Kubuntu yes |
| 20:04.08 | Half-Left | people* |
| 20:04.09 | g2g591 | Mojo_risin: 2nd person to have that today... rm .kde4/share/config/plasma* seems to fix it reverts to the default settings though |
| 20:04.39 | Half-Left | Make that about 4th |
| 20:04.52 | Mojo_risin | g2g591: yeah that's not a perfect solution for me... |
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| 20:06.02 | Half-Left | I already have received infomation about issues with Kubuntu, so it doesn't surprise me |
| 20:06.21 | Mojo_risin | Half-Left: there isn't a fix yet, this is f* major problem :( |
| 20:06.25 | Mojo_risin | ? |
| 20:06.44 | Half-Left | Yes, so blame the Kubuntu devs |
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| 20:07.22 | Half-Left | I've already had to report a bug to one of them regarding our kdegames default |
| 20:07.24 | Mojo_risin | do you know if there is some bug issued in launchpad? |
| 20:07.32 | phorsyon | g2g591: LOL the plasmoid opens the config kwinrc toggles the state of compositing (Enabled|Disabled) and triggers the KWin.reloadConfig method via dbus. |
| 20:08.31 | Half-Left | No idea, we dont deal with that here |
| 20:09.09 | Mojo_risin | Half-Left: i know but the kubuntu channel is almost useless |
| 20:09.23 | Half-Left | Sounds about right |
| 20:09.23 | knusperfrosch | is there a length limitation for strings or someTable.innerHTML ? got a large table as a string (236648 characters) and it get's cut at 33793 |
| 20:09.58 | Half-Left | try #kubuntu-devel |
| 20:10.05 | Mojo_risin | the work is difficult for people who likes .deb and kde4 :) |
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| 20:13.14 | g2g591 | Mojo_risin: I prefer .pkg.tar.gz |
| 20:13.58 | Mojo_risin | which distribution uses that? |
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| 20:15.18 | ch1234 | Hello! I'm using KDE4.2 from Debian experimental and wonder how I get a programm like e.g. /opt/eclipse/eclipse to the "quick start icons" at the bottom panel. Using right-click in the KDE menu is no option as eclipse does not appear in Applications. |
| 20:15.51 | ch1234 | Right clicking in the "quick start icons" just allowed me to add a "mini program" |
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| 20:17.45 | g2g591 | Mojo_risin: Arch Linux |
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| 20:19.58 | MoDaX | ch1234: .desktop should be in /usr/share/applications/ to be seen by kde menus |
| 20:20.04 | MoDaX | .desktop file* |
| 20:20.17 | DexterF | "Sender address does not belong to logged in user {mp055}" - wtf? |
| 20:20.29 | ch1234 | MoDaX: And if the application has no .dekstop file? |
| 20:21.01 | MoDaX | ch1234: create link to application |
| 20:21.13 | MoDaX | that's effectively desktop file |
| 20:22.53 | ch1234 | So I have to modify /usr/share/applications to get something that worked on KDE3? Any rationale why there is no simple right-click and "add application" ? |
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| 20:39.44 | dgorissen | hello, a small Q, I updated my suse 11.0 to kde 4.2.1, but ever since the system try just shows little black squares for each icon and I cannot interact with them |
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| 20:45.18 | pulc | hi |
| 20:45.28 | pulc | !list |
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| 20:46.51 | szal | question: is it possible to set the order of appearance of icons added to the Quicklaunch applet? |
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| 21:31.32 | Shapeshifter | Since I installed kde4, synergys instantly crashes when selectring text on the client machine. Very annoying... Does anyone know of a fix? |
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| 21:34.17 | Shapeshifter | oh and how can I stop using klipper. I really don't need it. maybe that'll help synergy stay alive |
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| 21:34.52 | MoDaX | Shapeshifter: quit it? |
| 21:35.07 | Shapeshifter | MoDaX: I suppose it will start upon next reboot... |
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| 21:35.24 | MoDaX | Shapeshifter: no, it will ask you what to do |
| 21:35.32 | Shapeshifter | MoDaX: oh |
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| 21:35.43 | Shapeshifter | very well |
| 21:36.42 | Shapeshifter | well. still crashing anyway. |
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| 21:55.38 | JPINEDA | hola a todos |
| 21:55.42 | JPINEDA | y todas |
| 21:55.53 | JPINEDA | feliz dÃa de la mujer |
| 21:55.59 | JPINEDA | hi to everyone. |
| 21:56.04 | JPINEDA | happy woman day |
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| 21:56.40 | gjzigaran | how can i install IE in Fedora? |
| 21:57.03 | MoDaX | gjzigaran: generally you cannot. but there is wine |
| 21:57.05 | JPINEDA | mmm... I dont think so |
| 21:57.08 | aimka | gjzigaran: IE exists only under windows, maybe Wine |
| 21:57.29 | MoDaX | gjzigaran: and off-topic for #kde |
| 21:57.31 | szal | gjzigaran: google 'ies4linux' |
| 21:58.08 | JPINEDA | but maybe you can "emulate" Windows |
| 21:58.35 | JPINEDA | I really dont know if there are possible, but some pal toldme that is possible |
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| 22:06.28 | kavorka | with kde 4.2 is it possible to have different wallpapers on each virtual desktop? |
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| 22:08.00 | perles | good question |
| 22:08.19 | perles | I did not realized that until now how to do it |
| 22:08.37 | kavorka | i dont think its possible...or maybe not implemented yet |
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| 22:09.41 | kavorka | also, this might be a dumb question as ive just cut over from 3.5.10....but is the purpose if that zoom out option in the top right corner? ie there seem to be other desktops im not aware of |
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| 22:10.10 | kavorka | also, this might be a dumb question as ive just cut over from 3.5.10....but *what* is the purpose if that zoom out option in the top right corner? ie there seem to be other desktops im not aware of |
| 22:10.12 | kavorka | sprry |
| 22:10.16 | kavorka | sorry even |
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| 22:53.07 | VaRiitOh | Hello |
| 22:53.24 | pm2 | Hi - I'm using Kubuntu with KDE 4.1.4, and I'm noticing that when running Wine programs, parts of the screen flicker. At certain times, it almost looks like a window is trying to be drawn somewhere on the screen, and flickering in and out. Also, the graphics in some Wine programs are not displaying properly. Any thoughts on how to fix? |
| 22:53.39 | P-Luc_Auclair | does anybody know is it's possible to use 802.1X authentication with Network Manager in KDE4 ? I don't see it in the options |
| 22:53.41 | VaRiitOh | Can I autoexecute program when I enter in my session ? |
| 22:53.55 | VaRiitOh | In Gnome is gnome-session in kde What is? |
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| 23:05.15 | plutonian | is akregator part of kde4? |
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| 23:19.42 | victim | kubuntu 8.10, kde 4.2, I'm trying to configure Konqueror and show tooltips |
| 23:20.33 | victim | I tick the box in configure / views and then OK |
| 23:20.39 | victim | and tooltips are shown |
| 23:21.05 | victim | but when I close / restart Konqueror the tooltips box is unticked |
| 23:21.28 | victim | how do I make the 'show tooltips' box stay ticked? |
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| 23:52.08 | Adam_Tech | What is thisd channel? |
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| 23:52.28 | Adam_Tech | What is KDE? |
| 23:52.31 | Adam_Tech | lol jk |
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| 23:52.39 | Adam_Tech | bye |
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| 23:53.30 | P-Luc_Auclair | does anybody know who maintains the power management part of kde4 ? |
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