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| 00:06.42 | johndoe | how do i change the overall theme in kde |
| 00:06.49 | johndoe | window color, button layout, ... |
| 00:06.52 | sandsmark | system settings â look and feel ? |
| 00:06.56 | johndoe | http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1.1238111670.png |
| 00:07.00 | johndoe | this looks poor |
| 00:07.03 | sandsmark | I mean appearance |
| 00:07.15 | sandsmark | johndoe: that's gnome |
| 00:07.16 | johndoe | but im on gnome currently :/ |
| 00:07.18 | johndoe | yes |
| 00:07.23 | johndoe | it was normal before |
| 00:07.33 | johndoe | no editor like kate i guess ^^ |
| 00:07.44 | sandsmark | run «kcmshell4 style» |
| 00:07.50 | sandsmark | ( in alt+f2 ) |
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| 00:08.24 | johndoe | ah got it, thanks sandsmark |
| 00:08.28 | sandsmark | niceness ;) |
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| 00:20.06 | frankS2 | Helo, KDE 4.2.1 alot of bugs fixed? is it useable again? |
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| 00:20.54 | kdepepo | every version has fixes for old features. Dot releases get new features with new bugs :) |
| 00:21.33 | frankS2 | oh phawk |
| 00:21.44 | frankS2 | and im compiling kde.4.2.1 now |
| 00:21.52 | kdepepo | frankS2, which bugs did make 4.2.0 unusable for you? |
| 00:22.10 | kdepepo | frankS2, 4.2.1 doesn't add new features, as it isn't a dot release. |
| 00:22.43 | kdepepo | erm pardon, I mixed that up maybe :) 4.3.0 will be the next with new features... |
| 00:23.23 | frankS2 | kdepepo: i cant really set my finger on it, it was just weird |
| 00:24.09 | kdepepo | frankS2, concrete? |
| 00:24.40 | kdepepo | which version did you use before that? |
| 00:24.49 | frankS2 | kde 3 |
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| 00:25.02 | kdepepo | ah... KDE 3 is quite different |
| 00:25.34 | kdepepo | KDE 4 has many new concepts, that you need to learn in order to get productive. Once you got there, you will NEVER go back to KDE 3. |
| 00:25.57 | kdepepo | But if you are old and dump headed, don't learn ;) |
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| 00:27.19 | frankS2 | yea |
| 00:27.21 | frankS2 | i hope so |
| 00:27.29 | frankS2 | ive been compiling for straight 5hours now |
| 00:27.50 | kdepepo | 4.2.2 out in a week (if nothing serious blocks it) |
| 00:28.15 | frankS2 | wwhats new in that version? |
| 00:28.27 | kdepepo | 4.2.2 has just fixes |
| 00:28.46 | frankS2 | thats nice |
| 00:29.24 | kdepepo | I fixed a common crash with GHNS in systemsettings myself :) |
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| 00:31.06 | frankS2 | ok |
| 00:31.08 | frankS2 | cool |
| 00:31.09 | frankS2 | :) |
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| 00:38.35 | frankS2 | well fuck me |
| 00:38.46 | frankS2 | something failed compiling |
| 00:38.50 | frankS2 | music something |
| 00:39.00 | kdepepo | musicbrainz? |
| 00:39.16 | frankS2 | didnt get all of it, it keeps on compiling |
| 00:39.20 | frankS2 | musicbrainz may be it |
| 00:39.22 | kdepepo | that's a dependency for kdemultimedia I guess... |
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| 00:40.05 | frankS2 | i think it stood something about that i needed to download something |
| 00:40.11 | frankS2 | guess its no big problem |
| 00:40.44 | kdepepo | if it doesn't stop, it is an optional dependency. |
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| 00:42.12 | frankS2 | too bad KDE wont allow me to use distcc |
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| 00:44.28 | kdepepo | frankS2, I cound 119 occurences of the "BUG:" keyword in the changelog from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 |
| 00:44.31 | kdepepo | count |
| 00:44.57 | frankS2 | oh ok |
| 00:45.01 | frankS2 | thts nice i guess |
| 00:45.11 | kdepepo | but that only means the bugs that are reported and closed via a commit. |
| 00:45.17 | frankS2 | oh yea |
| 00:46.54 | frankS2 | guess ill have to rebuild in a week then |
| 00:46.57 | frankS2 | :p |
| 00:47.29 | kdepepo | 4.2.2 has been tagged, so if you want that, you could do a branch checkout :) |
| 00:48.00 | frankS2 | ill wait till it comes in my ports collection |
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| 00:57.38 | mini-man | Unknown CMake command "QT4_ADD_DBUS_ADAPTOR" |
| 00:57.44 | mini-man | wat? |
| 00:57.51 | mini-man | googled it, can't find anything |
| 00:58.44 | kdepepo | mini-man, I am sure this is from Akonadi, install kdesupport. |
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| 00:59.20 | Goran_ | why not rename trash bin into krap kan? ;) |
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| 00:59.39 | mini-man | kdepepo: k, thanks, trying now |
| 00:59.44 | mini-man | and lol @ krap kan XD |
| 01:00.21 | frankS2 | mini-man: when compiling kde? |
| 01:00.25 | kdepepo | mini-man, see http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Creating_Interfaces#CMake |
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| 01:00.55 | kdepepo | so it may be in kdelibs even... |
| 01:00.56 | mini-man | frankS2: no, I'm actually trying to compile the new tray implementation (and FWIW, I've had this error before for other kde apps) |
| 01:01.07 | frankS2 | ok |
| 01:01.12 | kdepepo | just copy the cmake files from there :) |
| 01:01.15 | mini-man | hm ok |
| 01:01.25 | mini-man | thanks :) |
| 01:01.47 | frankS2 | what does kde 4 use mysql for? |
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| 01:02.35 | reavertm | akonadi, amarok (libmysqld) |
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| 01:03.34 | frankS2 | oh ok |
| 01:03.39 | frankS2 | its pretty neat that amarok use mysql |
| 01:03.45 | frankS2 | for a big db thats awesoe |
| 01:04.05 | frankS2 | thats where other mp3 players fail |
| 01:04.17 | frankS2 | only mpd is good enough for huge dbs |
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| 01:07.19 | sandsmark | frankS2: not really |
| 01:07.30 | sandsmark | frankS2: mpd doesn't even have an index |
| 01:07.43 | sandsmark | it's extremely slow on large collections, linearly searching through the whole tag cache |
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| 01:18.10 | frankS2 | wtf |
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| 01:28.23 | yao_ziyuan | in fact it does, but that shadow is below this on-top window. |
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| 02:00.34 | mini-man | stupid question, but where do I put FindQT4.cmake now that I got the one from svn? |
| 02:01.23 | mini-man | nvm |
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| 03:32.06 | caotic | aseigo: hey man, do you know yakuake ? |
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| 03:38.39 | aseigo | caotic: and kde4 you mean? |
| 03:38.56 | caotic | aseigo: yeah |
| 03:39.15 | caotic | aseigo: do you know about certain bug with the split konsole in yakuake ? |
| 03:41.04 | caotic | aseigo: the thing is that runing yakuake in fluxbox accidentally fixed this issue, also when I loged back in kde yakuake It had no problem splitin the konsoles. do you know what the hell could possibly happened ? shots in the dark are welcome :P |
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| 03:44.33 | fde | wonders why you'd ask the plasma lead developer about a random (although very useful) kde based app? |
| 03:44.50 | aseigo | caotic: last i heard, it was due to a patch i put into konsole, actually |
| 03:45.12 | aseigo | caotic: to do with arranging the tabs and the secondary ui (e.g. the search bar) properly |
| 03:45.20 | aseigo | caotic: it was, afaik, fixed in trunk, however |
| 03:45.24 | fde | aseigo: out of curiosity, do you actually hack on any apps when you need a break from plasma? :P |
| 03:45.26 | caotic | aseigo: .. I did heard it was a konsole specific issue, didnt know if it was already fixed |
| 03:45.39 | aseigo | fde: you'd be surprised how few apps in kde i don't have patches in ;) |
| 03:45.56 | aseigo | fde: just don't tell anyone ;) |
| 03:46.11 | fde | aseigo: I'm pretty sure you stole hours in the day from someone, cuz I do not understand how you manage it all |
| 03:46.28 | aseigo | it's 21:46, and i'm still puttering away. that's how. :) |
| 03:46.33 | aseigo | it's just what i like doing |
| 03:46.36 | caotic | aseigo: well is good to know Its been fix, and I just made a fool of my self in #yakuake :P |
| 03:46.46 | aseigo | and other people in my life do silly thing like "sleeping" giving me time to indule :P |
| 03:46.52 | aseigo | caotic: hehe |
| 03:46.59 | sandsmark | it's 04:46 here now :< |
| 03:47.02 | sandsmark | damn IRC |
| 03:47.27 | aseigo | heh |
| 03:47.45 | fde | aseigo: that's awesome, millions thank you for it, even if they don't directly :) |
| 03:47.53 | sandsmark | and damn forward/backwards buttons :P |
| 03:48.04 | aseigo | haha |
| 03:48.15 | aseigo | sandsmark: it's the little details in life, my friend, that keep us awake |
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| 03:48.53 | sandsmark | why on earth wouldn't the backwards button get the old path when I press forward ? its almost zenlike in its evasiveness |
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| 03:55.08 | SandGorgon | guys.. which fortune applet to use in KDE 4.x - e.g. Kuote (or Gnome's Wanda the fish)? |
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| 04:56.50 | frankS2 | when the next realease of KDE is out (next week) does that mean i ahve to rebuild everything in the KDE base? |
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| 05:22.43 | Ketrel | I'm trying to do a regular expression search in Kate, the regex I'm using is: (0-9):(0-9)(0-9)pm |
| 05:22.51 | Ketrel | however it doesn't seem to be finding anything |
| 05:22.56 | Ketrel | am I doing something wrong? |
| 05:23.39 | Ketrel | my goal is to find times like 6:32pm |
| 05:25.18 | drantin | well, for one thing, you're leaving a few hours out |
| 05:25.28 | drantin | and minutes should only go so high... |
| 05:26.04 | Ketrel | (I'm only trying to eliminate single hours) and minutes it should still work, but it doesn't find anything |
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| 05:28.41 | drantin | try square brackets instead of parenthesees |
| 05:28.49 | drantin | parentheses? |
| 05:29.00 | drantin | [] instead of () |
| 05:29.55 | Ketrel | ok, lemme try |
| 05:30.28 | Ketrel | yeah that was it, thanks |
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| 05:31.03 | glick | hello? |
| 05:31.23 | glick | excuse me is there a way to make kde auto indent the next html tag? |
| 05:31.32 | drantin | kate? |
| 05:31.42 | glick | or so that at least after you indent with a tag when you hit enter your at the same indent level |
| 05:31.49 | drantin | quanta? |
| 05:31.50 | glick | kate...the editor? |
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| 05:33.33 | drantin | Tools -> Indentation Style -> Normal ? |
| 05:33.43 | drantin | er |
| 05:33.51 | drantin | Indentation, no style... |
| 05:34.39 | glick | sweeet |
| 05:34.43 | glick | kate sessms pretty nice |
| 05:34.46 | glick | i like it so far |
| 05:37.19 | glick | hmm kde seems pretty nice |
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| 05:39.18 | aseigo | glick: :) |
| 05:41.21 | Call_me_K | I <3 Kate |
| 05:41.31 | drantin | <3 vim ;) |
| 05:41.54 | Call_me_K | ow |
| 05:42.16 | Call_me_K | anthing remotley close to vi ties my fingers into knots |
| 05:42.36 | Call_me_K | I'd rather suffer with nano |
| 05:42.46 | drantin | Edit -> VI input mode |
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| 05:43.28 | glick | anyone run kde on debian? |
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| 05:44.34 | drantin | now okular, I like... |
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| 06:09.18 | KC | Does kate support nested folders? |
| 06:09.31 | KC | well, not folders per se |
| 06:09.34 | KC | but the same idea |
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| 06:10.41 | blackdragon | Can anyone assist me with a small problem? |
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| 06:12.22 | blackdragon | Can anyone assist me with a small problem? |
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| 06:12.42 | blackdragon | Can anyone assist me with a small problem? |
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| 06:14.40 | ganymede | does anyone know if the .thumbnails folder has a size limit in kde4? i don't want digikam to have to re-generate any thumbnails |
| 06:16.07 | blackdragon | Just upgrade to kde 4.2.1 and all menus are just a blank square with black outline??? |
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| 06:17.54 | blackdragon | Just upgrade to kde 4.2.1 and all menus are just a blank square with black outline??? |
| 06:23.41 | frankS2 | haha |
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| 06:27.03 | diori | hello |
| 06:27.48 | blackdragon | Just upgrade to kde 4.2.1 and all menus are just a blank square with black outline??? |
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| 06:28.07 | frankS2 | i dunno blackdragon what did you upgrade from? |
| 06:28.22 | blackdragon | 3.5.10 |
| 06:28.34 | frankS2 | then you should read the upgrading manual |
| 06:28.36 | diori | i wlli like to know how to add tranparent to kicker |
| 06:30.00 | blackdragon | Quick link to upgrade manual? |
| 06:30.15 | frankS2 | depends on what system you run |
| 06:30.23 | Call_me_K | blackdragon: it's a problem with the theme, though I haven't been able to pinpoint it myself |
| 06:30.24 | frankS2 | /usr/port/UPDATING if freebsd |
| 06:30.30 | diori | KDE 4.2 |
| 06:31.14 | Call_me_K | my desktop did the same after updating from 4.2 > 4.2.1 |
| 06:31.41 | Call_me_K | my wife, however, who was using a default theme, did not have the problem |
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| 06:40.07 | diori | hello |
| 06:40.37 | frankS2 | * The Open Fingerprint Architecture library library needs |
| 06:40.37 | frankS2 | * to be installed. Please download the library from |
| 06:40.37 | frankS2 | * http://www.musicdns.org/downloads |
| 06:40.48 | frankS2 | wtf is this shit, compiling kdemultimedia4 |
| 06:41.09 | frankS2 | wtf is this shit, compiling kdemultimedia4 |
| 06:41.18 | frankS2 | wrong key |
| 06:41.22 | frankS2 | sry for repeat |
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| 06:43.11 | Call_me_K | well, it's pretty self explanetory to me |
| 06:43.22 | Call_me_K | you need this:go here |
| 06:43.34 | Call_me_K | what part was confusing? the you-need or the go-here? |
| 06:43.58 | frankS2 | could need a direct link |
| 06:44.04 | frankS2 | because i have no X |
| 06:44.37 | diori | I would like to know how to make the kicker transparent |
| 06:45.28 | simoncion | frankS2, lynx/links? |
| 06:45.32 | frankS2 | lynx |
| 06:45.44 | simoncion | frankS2, well, there you go. No X required. :) |
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| 06:45.53 | diori | I would like to know how to make the kicker transparent |
| 06:47.00 | Call_me_K | not having the experience of installing kmm4 in non-binary form, I can't say why it does that. best guess is that open fingerprint is licensed such that it's not able to be bundled with the kde-provided source |
| 06:48.37 | diori | I would like to know how to make the kicker transparent |
| 06:50.39 | simoncion | diori, we heard you the first three times. :) |
| 06:52.06 | Call_me_K | we don't answer because we don't know. I'm sure I could figure it out if I looked, but it's almost bedtime and I'm being lazy |
| 06:53.07 | diori | ok |
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| 06:53.44 | simoncion | diori, are you running kde 4.x? |
| 06:53.47 | simoncion | or kde 3.5? |
| 06:55.01 | simoncion | If you're running kde 4.x, try turning on Compositing and looking at the options provided to you by the transparent windows plugin. |
| 06:56.27 | diori | kde 4.2 |
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| 06:57.52 | simoncion | diori, yeah. That would be 4.x |
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| 06:58.18 | diori | only will like to know how to put |
| 06:58.20 | diori | transparent taskbar |
| 06:58.28 | simoncion | *has no idea* |
| 06:58.36 | user_ | guys could anyone check if this image causes their konqueror to crash - it does so in mine <http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Animated-runner.svg> |
| 06:58.37 | simoncion | *doesn't have a panel on his system* |
| 06:58.43 | simoncion | what version of konq? |
| 06:59.08 | diori | only will like to now how to put transparent taskbar |
| 06:59.19 | simoncion | crashes 4.2.1 |
| 06:59.23 | simoncion | *tries it in head |
| 06:59.25 | user_ | 4.2.1 |
| 06:59.30 | diori | kde 4.2 |
| 06:59.35 | user_ | should i file a bug? |
| 06:59.37 | simoncion | user_, do you want a BT? |
| 06:59.40 | diori | 4.2.1 |
| 06:59.51 | user_ | simoncion: BT ? |
| 06:59.53 | frankS2 | oh fuck, didnt take long for kde crashing |
| 07:00.23 | simoncion | user_, I have no idea. maybe? |
| 07:00.27 | simoncion | user_, I'm not a kde dev yet. |
| 07:00.38 | user_ | cool |
| 07:01.39 | simoncion | user_, This crashes in konq from yesterday's SVN |
| 07:01.40 | diori | aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 07:01.46 | simoncion | user_, I guess a bug should be filed. |
| 07:02.59 | simoncion | This is the last thing that SVN konq tells me on console: konqueror: /home/avatar/kde/src/KDE/kdelibs/khtml/svg/SVGUseElement.cpp:551: void WebCore::SVGUseElement::buildShadowTree(WebCore::SVGElement*, WebCore::SVGElementInstance*): Assertion `newChildPtr' failed. |
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| 07:04.28 | diori | i need to to knwo :( |
| 07:04.46 | diori | :( |
| 07:05.54 | diori | i need to konw how to put taskbar transparent ;( |
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| 07:10.00 | simoncion | user_, Sorry, didn't see your question there. By BT I mean backtrace. :( |
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| 07:11.00 | frankS2 | wow kde4 is really nice, i miss the old look though, and it could be a bit less crashy |
| 07:11.05 | diori | :( |
| 07:11.29 | diori | :( |
| 07:11.53 | diori | kicker transparent |
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| 07:13.36 | UUser_ | how do i get the system configuration for filing a bug - is uname -a good enough ? |
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| 07:14.45 | simoncion | UUser_, might wanna to a konqueror --version as well |
| 07:15.23 | UUser_ | cool |
| 07:16.19 | simoncion | UUser_, you did read this? http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports |
| 07:16.40 | UUser_ | no i didnt.. thanks |
| 07:16.50 | simoncion | UUser_, n/p |
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| 07:56.05 | sidh | is it possible to have 2 screen managed independently in kde ? i mean 1 task bar/desktop par screen ? |
| 07:58.11 | simoncion | I guess? I'm not 100% sure of the behaviour that you're looking for. |
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| 08:04.46 | thiago_home | xinerama works |
| 08:05.00 | thiago_home | but split screens probably not, since no one tests that |
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| 08:08.56 | cb400f | tests it ;-) |
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| 08:09.59 | cb400f | whoever asked about the dual head before I joined may wanna add his votes or comments here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156475 |
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| 08:10.59 | cb400f | I currently work around the issue by running icewm on my tv |
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| 08:23.32 | aantipop | plasma / krunner are eating 100% cpu on nvidia-beta 185.13 on my machine, any idea how to solve that ? |
| 08:24.55 | tstaerk | killall plasma |
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| 08:25.47 | thiago_home | did it happen on 180.29? |
| 08:26.20 | aantipop | no |
| 08:26.28 | aantipop | that one works fine |
| 08:27.39 | aantipop | tstaerk: sure but restarting plasma gives 100% cpu comsumption again |
| 08:27.58 | aantipop | 13288 aantipop 20 0 207m 25m 18m R 100 0.6 6:19.82 krunner |
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| 09:45.43 | EvaLuaTe | hello |
| 09:46.10 | EvaLuaTe | is it possible to costumize the 'start menu' in kde 4? |
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| 09:50.08 | tstaerk | EvaLuaTe, yes, right-click on it |
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| 10:48.12 | Zordrak | Going insane trying to find an answer... can i get milti-line icons in the kde4 taskbar? Im out of space.. i have 4 next to systray, the rest i had to ship out to the K monu.. but im having to scroll that cause i cant increase its height... i can solve it all by having more than one row of icons in the bar |
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| 10:52.15 | victim | Zordrak: http://imagebin.ca/view/sc31cNj.html |
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| 10:55.20 | Zordrak | victim: thats what i want.... but how? |
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| 10:58.08 | victim | right click on an empty area and select 'Task manager settings' |
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| 10:58.44 | victim | then change maximum rows |
| 10:58.54 | Zordrak | i have it on 2 and also force |
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| 11:00.55 | Zordrak | but my icons are still single row |
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| 11:05.06 | Zordrak | how do you get the icons to multi-rom as well as the task manager+ |
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| 11:07.17 | Zordrak | victim: ? |
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| 11:10.00 | victim | telephone |
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| 11:10.52 | Zordrak | *nod* |
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| 11:12.32 | victim | <Zordrak> how do you get the icons to multi-rom as well as the task manager+ |
| 11:12.44 | Zordrak | s/m/w/ |
| 11:12.57 | victim | Zordrak: do you mean the group on the left? |
| 11:13.09 | Zordrak | yes.. thats what im after |
| 11:13.25 | Zordrak | i already have multirow taskbar.. but not icons |
| 11:13.27 | cb400f | Zordrak: you need the panel to be taller than 40 (or 50?) px |
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| 11:13.56 | victim | that is a 'quick launch panel' it's a widget and I right clicked it |
| 11:14.20 | cb400f | oh.. talking about launcher short cuts.. not systray |
| 11:14.35 | Zordrak | AHAH!!!! |
| 11:14.39 | cb400f | Zordrak: to configure the taskbar -> right click on taskbar -> taskbar settings |
| 11:14.43 | Zordrak | i want to cry! finally got it |
| 11:14.47 | victim | :) |
| 11:14.58 | Zordrak | it's the quicklaunch widget |
| 11:15.08 | tuxick | got an attachment kmail couldn't handle, "Unnamed" |
| 11:15.31 | tuxick | header shos "Content-Disposition: attachment; "file name.xls"" |
| 11:15.44 | tuxick | who is wrong? sending agent or kmail? |
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| 11:17.16 | cb400f | are your mimetype associations for xls in order? |
| 11:17.23 | cb400f | .. do you have OOo or something installed? |
| 11:17.30 | Zordrak | victim: what about making the icons big enough to see? |
| 11:18.11 | victim | Zordrak: idk |
| 11:18.28 | Zordrak | mine are about 3px big |
| 11:19.41 | victim | the quicklaunch is set to 6 visible icons and 2 rows |
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| 11:20.19 | victim | I drag the icons to the quicklauncher from the K menu |
| 11:20.25 | Zordrak | hmmm once a tried to add one it resized |
| 11:20.48 | victim | that must be KDE4 feature ;) |
| 11:21.31 | Zordrak | am getting there slowly.. now QL and task manager overlap a little |
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| 11:24.00 | Zordrak | ok no that was some kind of bug |
| 11:24.08 | Zordrak | i still have tiny icons |
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| 11:24.31 | Zordrak | mf bar has to be about 400px high to make them usable |
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| 11:25.31 | Zordrak | i guess it's just not ready for kde4 :( |
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| 11:25.49 | Zordrak | which leaves me back where i started |
| 11:26.09 | Zordrak | a single row of icons and no way to increase the height of the K menu |
| 11:26.24 | victim | you can move the various bars / sections about if you click on the 'golden bean' on the right hand side |
| 11:26.50 | Zordrak | yes.. but it just rearranges.. dont get any more space available |
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| 11:30.33 | Zordrak | QL works if you have 4 rows and PRECISELY the right bar height and 4 icons |
| 11:31.01 | Zordrak | but i cant live with such a huge bar |
| 11:31.18 | victim | http://imagebin.ca/view/1mSXKo.html |
| 11:31.20 | Zordrak | i have 1200px to play with i dont want the bar taking up 200pk |
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| 11:32.35 | Zordrak | what kde4 ver you using? |
| 11:32.44 | victim | I dragged the 'height' thing up |
| 11:32.58 | victim | kde 4.2.0 on kubuntu 8.10 |
| 11:33.07 | Zordrak | point is QL is always giving you the right height |
| 11:33.11 | Zordrak | sorry |
| 11:33.16 | Zordrak | point is QL is always giving you the right icon size |
| 11:33.19 | victim | Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0) |
| 11:33.38 | Zordrak | for me it keeps dropping the icons to their smallest possible size |
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| 11:34.28 | Zordrak | on 4.2.1 |
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| 11:40.09 | victim | stupid kde, I was paying with the taskbar height and now 90% of my desktop has been covered by grey :( |
| 11:40.11 | victim | http://imagebin.ca/view/jOoQuM.html |
| 11:40.48 | Zordrak | victim: http://imagebin.ca/view/S_3VZe.html |
| 11:41.38 | Zordrak | see what i mean about the icon sizes? |
| 11:43.04 | victim | wow they are small |
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| 11:43.38 | Zordrak | wait till you see them with my chosen bar size |
| 11:44.32 | Zordrak | victim: http://imagebin.ca/view/k14yUf.html |
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| 11:45.06 | Zordrak | thats if you can see them at all.. they ARE there |
| 11:45.07 | victim | lol |
| 11:45.21 | Zordrak | but completely useless |
| 11:45.56 | Zordrak | how can we still be at this stage after two major and one minor revisions to kde4? |
| 11:46.26 | Zordrak | what's the point in a desktop where you cant get quick access to your apps? |
| 11:46.33 | thiago | it works fine here |
| 11:47.26 | victim | Zordrak: could the widget to the left of the Quicklauncher be affecting it? |
| 11:47.34 | thiago | but plasma still has some bugs left (or many) |
| 11:47.38 | thiago | it's new software after all |
| 11:47.44 | thiago | report them so that they can be fixed |
| 11:47.55 | Zordrak | i doubt it... the default position after the clock shows no difference |
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| 11:51.52 | victim | Zordrak: report a bug with your card and driver details etc |
| 11:52.17 | victim | i'm going to have to restart and fix this grey screen of death |
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| 12:05.53 | annma | MonsieurHibou: where in Fance do you live? |
| 12:06.33 | MonsieurHibou | la rochelle (as a student, but near la rochelle anyway) |
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| 12:07.05 | annma | nice! |
| 12:07.09 | KRF | la rochelle, sweet. |
| 12:07.15 | annma | I'm in Toulouse |
| 12:07.17 | KRF | they got some nice old city ;) |
| 12:07.18 | annma | near Toulouse |
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| 12:08.42 | annma | yes! |
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| 12:09.27 | engineer | 18C |
| 12:10.29 | annma | engineer: you're also near Toulouse? |
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| 12:23.58 | tuxick | ah, and now 'search' in konq4 is broken |
| 12:23.58 | tuxick | great |
| 12:24.12 | annma | ? |
| 12:24.19 | annma | what konq version? |
| 12:24.27 | annma | how is it broken? |
| 12:25.14 | annma | tuxick: please elaborate |
| 12:25.21 | tuxick | 4.2.1, and it stays red when i enter a string i see on a page |
| 12:25.33 | annma | never got that |
| 12:25.40 | annma | distro? |
| 12:25.51 | tuxick | well at least ctrl-f works here |
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| 12:26.00 | annma | distro? |
| 12:26.06 | tuxick | there's this odd bug where first instance of konq complains about ctrl-f |
| 12:26.08 | tuxick | gentoo |
| 12:26.33 | annma | never saw such a bug |
| 12:26.40 | MaNI | works for me on gentoo |
| 12:26.45 | annma | when did it appear? |
| 12:26.48 | annma | ah see |
| 12:26.50 | tuxick | it works on my other box |
| 12:26.55 | annma | ah so dig it |
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| 12:27.03 | annma | you cannot blame kde then |
| 12:27.10 | tuxick | well it appeared when ctrl-f finally worked again |
| 12:27.11 | annma | that sounds a bit trollish |
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| 12:27.23 | tuxick | both systems run gentoo 64bit |
| 12:27.32 | annma | sounds your install is broken then |
| 12:27.35 | tuxick | and this kind of bugs can NOT be blamed on distributions |
| 12:27.43 | tuxick | unless they explicitly patch stuff to hell |
| 12:27.53 | annma | either you have facts and you report them to bugs.kde.org |
| 12:28.11 | annma | or you ask precise questions here with precise kde version and distro |
| 12:28.16 | tuxick | i did |
| 12:28.19 | tuxick | biab |
| 12:28.22 | annma | for gentoo you ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 12:28.24 | annma | you did not |
| 12:28.30 | tuxick | 4.2.1 gentoo |
| 12:28.32 | tuxick | anyway |
| 12:28.38 | annma | so #gentoo-kde |
| 12:28.47 | tuxick | fine |
| 12:28.56 | annma | thanks in advance |
| 12:29.30 | _pinheiro | any one with some svn experties? |
| 12:29.37 | _pinheiro | svn+ssh |
| 12:30.13 | annma | uses https |
| 12:30.24 | annma | afraid to lose ssh keys |
| 12:30.44 | annma | hey _pinheiro :) |
| 12:30.54 | _pinheiro | hey annma |
| 12:31.17 | _pinheiro | annma: me thinks that what hapened |
| 12:31.23 | _pinheiro | thats |
| 12:31.35 | annma | ouch so you cannot connect anymore |
| 12:32.35 | _pinheiro | yeah |
| 12:32.53 | _pinheiro | think i generated a pasword that override the old one |
| 12:33.11 | _pinheiro | me using another svn server wth the same usernam |
| 12:33.11 | annma | you have to ask for a new access then |
| 12:33.22 | annma | ah |
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| 12:36.58 | _pinheiro | umm i just managed to comit somthing |
| 12:37.15 | _pinheiro | to another repository i ha |
| 12:37.17 | _pinheiro | had |
| 12:37.30 | _pinheiro | using kdesvn |
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| 12:37.38 | annma | to the other with same username? |
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| 12:38.32 | simoo | id there a way in kmail to change my from address without switching over to a whole new identity? |
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| 12:39.42 | _pinheiro | annma: i keep multiple parts of the svn.kde.org |
| 12:39.50 | _pinheiro | tried another old one i had |
| 12:40.02 | _pinheiro | the problem is that i need to checkout a new one |
| 12:40.16 | _pinheiro | oxygen mooved position |
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| 12:41.58 | annma | and you cannot svn co? |
| 12:42.04 | annma | what is the error? |
| 12:42.05 | _pinheiro | yeap |
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| 12:42.44 | _pinheiro | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 12:42.44 | _pinheiro | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
| 12:42.57 | _pinheiro | svn co svn+ssh://pinheiro@svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-iconsPermission denied (publickey). |
| 12:42.59 | _pinheiro | svn: Connection closed unexpectedly |
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| 12:43.00 | p-f | In Konsole 2.2.1 is ignoring my list of characters to include in the selection when double-clicking a word, why? |
| 12:43.24 | thiago | no problem here... |
| 12:43.29 | p-f_ | Konsole 2.2.1 is ignoring my list of characters to include in the selection when double-clicking a word. Why? |
| 12:43.30 | thiago | p-f_: update |
| 12:43.36 | thiago | p-f_: and don't repeat. |
| 12:43.45 | p-f_ | thiago: sorry, I got disconnected and thought it did not get through |
| 12:44.06 | thiago | you were already here |
| 12:44.13 | thiago | ah, ok, /me sees two nicks |
| 12:44.19 | p-f_ | irssi was showing +30s lag |
| 12:44.30 | thiago | anyways, update konsoel |
| 12:45.10 | annma | _pinheiro: I think you need to send a new key to kde sysadmins |
| 12:45.15 | p-f_ | looks like it's not in the repository I use yet, guess I'll just wait |
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| 12:45.32 | tuxick | aha, found clue, http://www.awstats.org/ uses frames |
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| 12:45.41 | tuxick | and then ctrl-f is "find in frame" |
| 12:45.47 | _pinheiro | annma: me worried like this i will fsk up the other one i have |
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| 12:46.40 | EsCoVa | hi all |
| 12:47.09 | EsCoVa | i like to show a kde-warning from bash-script, somebody help-me |
| 12:47.14 | EsCoVa | /// |
| 12:47.18 | EsCoVa | ???? |
| 12:47.30 | annma | explain what kde warning |
| 12:47.44 | EsCoVa | an kde-box with a OK button |
| 12:48.11 | annma | within kde? |
| 12:48.42 | annma | that would be a kdialog |
| 12:48.48 | EsCoVa | yeah! |
| 12:48.54 | annma | in a terminal, type: kdialog --help |
| 12:49.08 | annma | look at which one is best for you |
| 12:49.08 | EsCoVa | thank you! |
| 12:49.12 | annma | :) |
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| 12:49.48 | tuxick | annma: so the problem is frames, |
| 12:50.13 | EsCoVa | i didn't knew this command |
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| 12:55.44 | tuxick | can someone with konqueror-4.2.1 please check css rendering of https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=konqueror+find+in+frame ? |
| 12:55.49 | tuxick | it's screwed up here |
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| 12:58.12 | annma | what is screwed up in css? |
| 12:58.19 | annma | what do you call "css rendering" |
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| 12:58.55 | annma | post screenshot if it's visually messed |
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| 12:59.54 | tuxick | yes, visual/positioning |
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| 13:00.12 | annma | post screenshot |
| 13:00.21 | cb400f | looks the same in opera and konq here |
| 13:00.34 | annma | yupe |
| 13:00.36 | annma | yup |
| 13:00.44 | annma | lets see his screenshot |
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| 13:01.11 | tuxick | heh i don't have ksnapshot installed yet, hold on |
| 13:01.18 | cb400f | in firefox it looks a bit borked though |
| 13:01.31 | cb400f | with the search input field covering some text :-) |
| 13:01.58 | tuxick | funny, it's ok in my FF |
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| 13:02.16 | tuxick | cb400f: that's what i get in konq |
| 13:02.38 | cb400f | strange.. it prolly depends on fonts or something I guess |
| 13:02.43 | tuxick | overlaps "edit search" |
| 13:02.47 | tuxick | yeah, suppose so |
| 13:02.58 | tuxick | damn css |
| 13:03.35 | tuxick | most likely not a konq problem anyway |
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| 13:09.22 | tuxick | anyway, back to the "find in frame" bit, this is a bit odd, especially since i don't see how to tell it which frame |
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| 14:12.13 | Athunye | Hello. Is it possible to install kde 4.2 from the live cd ? |
| 14:12.55 | cb400f | "the live cd" ? |
| 14:12.59 | cb400f | what live cd? |
| 14:13.15 | Athunye | http://www.kde.org/trykde/ |
| 14:13.44 | Athunye | Or this page means something like kunbuntu ? |
| 14:13.57 | Athunye | ... or whatever... |
| 14:14.44 | Athunye | Well, I want to konw if is there a way to instll kde without a network connection, because I'll have to install it in about 5 machines. |
| 14:14.54 | guid | is it possible in KDE4 to make an app. NOT appearing in the taskbar? |
| 14:14.54 | cb400f | hmm.. the page is a bit outdated.. but the KDE Four Live cd is available with 4.2 and installable |
| 14:14.59 | cb400f | it's openSUSE based |
| 14:15.44 | Athunye | cb400f: Do you mean it is a package for openSUSE ? |
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| 14:16.08 | cb400f | I mean it's openSUSE 11.1 respun with KDE 4.2 |
| 14:16.19 | Athunye | Oh. OK. |
| 14:17.07 | Athunye | So, there is no way to some kde iso and install it in many machines ? |
| 14:17.52 | Athunye | It is about 700MB. I'll be a pain to install it from package managers... |
| 14:18.31 | cb400f | how many machines? |
| 14:18.35 | Athunye | 5 |
| 14:19.07 | Athunye | Perhaps I could download kubuntu and add the cdrom as a source. |
| 14:19.12 | cb400f | you can use the KDE Four Live cd then, isn't that much trouble.. about 30 mins per machine, doesn't need your attention all the time |
| 14:19.36 | cb400f | .. or you could wait a few weeks until mandriva and kubuntu have official releases with 4.2 |
| 14:20.35 | Athunye | In my ArchLinux box I already have 4.2 for a long time. |
| 14:21.09 | cb400f | so do everyone else.. but not on the media |
| 14:21.33 | cb400f | don't you have to download and install 4.2 with your package manager in arch? |
| 14:22.00 | Athunye | Yes, but then it is only in one (my) machine. |
| 14:23.33 | Athunye | Some days ago I installed Debian Lenny in 10 machines. I installed one and then burned a dvd with all /var/cache/apt/archives/ to reinstall in the other 9 remaining machines I just worked ok. |
| 14:25.01 | cb400f | for suse you can build isos with kiwi or susestudio.com |
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| 14:25.07 | cb400f | other distros have other options |
| 14:25.37 | Athunye | Nice. I didn't know that. |
| 14:26.02 | cb400f | kiwi is used to create KDE Four Live |
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| 14:27.22 | cb400f | but one would expect that if you're installing on multiple machines, you'd like to use officially supported packages |
| 14:27.38 | adac | where do I set the executing path for an app like wine in KDE? |
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| 14:34.31 | engineer | no annma |
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| 14:42.00 | SELF | How to open /root window through Terminal ? |
| 14:42.27 | annma | engineer: ;) OK you have quite a latency! |
| 14:47.06 | engineer | annma yeah, you know...work |
| 14:47.18 | engineer | i had you in the highlight window |
| 14:47.24 | annma | :) |
| 14:47.36 | annma | does not really work so she does not really know |
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| 14:48.03 | engineer | ^^ |
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| 14:54.37 | maccco | is it normal that rotated plasmoids have a quite ugly rotated handle? |
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| 14:55.08 | annma | you mean pixelized? |
| 14:55.12 | maccco | yes |
| 14:55.37 | annma | I was wondering that, it seems to me it was not like that before |
| 14:55.45 | annma | maybe a bug report would be good |
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| 14:56.46 | maccco | i have a photoframe plasmoid with a picture. When i go over it with mouse pointer the picture get pixelized |
| 14:57.08 | annma | oh |
| 14:57.12 | maccco | annma, before when? |
| 14:57.17 | annma | the picture frame is my baby |
| 14:57.27 | annma | in 4.1 for ex |
| 14:57.31 | maccco | cool! oh welll.. KOOL |
| 14:57.37 | annma | ;) |
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| 14:57.57 | annma | I never heard about the pic being pixelized on mouse over |
| 14:58.04 | annma | is it for any picture? |
| 14:58.27 | maccco | the border, the handle, and the picture |
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| 14:59.04 | annma | the border and the picture should get nothing |
| 14:59.13 | annma | the code does nto react to mouse over |
| 14:59.40 | annma | do you have a screnshot? |
| 14:59.50 | annma | and is it for any picture? |
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| 15:00.09 | maccco | wait, i send you a pic |
| 15:00.15 | annma | OK |
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| 15:02.07 | romulo | hi there, does anyone know a good plasmoid for controlling media players? |
| 15:02.08 | annma | you need to post them in a pastebin |
| 15:02.12 | annma | maccco: ^^ |
| 15:02.17 | maccco | no dcc? |
| 15:02.19 | annma | I can't get DCC |
| 15:02.25 | maccco | sorry now i post |
| 15:02.29 | annma | OK |
| 15:02.31 | annma | thanks |
| 15:03.30 | maccco | ehm... how? looks likepastebin only supports text.. |
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| 15:03.48 | annma | there's an image pastebin |
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| 15:04.05 | annma | imagebin.ca |
| 15:04.11 | maccco | k |
| 15:06.22 | maccco | http://picander.dyndns.org/snapshot4.jpeg |
| 15:06.25 | maccco | http://picander.dyndns.org/snapshot5.jpeg |
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| 15:08.48 | annma | the picture itself does not become pixelized, does it? |
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| 15:09.21 | maccco | yes, look the sharped borders |
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| 15:14.13 | lilltiger | hmm during the night krunner stopt working, i have tried to restart it, i also restarted kded4, still altf2 dosent work |
| 15:14.49 | lilltiger | im using kde 4.2.1 and qt 4. |
| 15:15.04 | lilltiger | 4.five |
| 15:15.26 | lilltiger | hmm the five dosent work either on my keyboard hehe |
| 15:17.18 | lilltiger | hmm guess it's not related to kde, xev dosent show any input for F1,F2 andthe five and six number keys.. hehe |
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| 15:31.24 | Tom_UK | anyone an op on #cebtos , i seem to be banned and i havent even been there yet :( |
| 15:31.29 | Tom_UK | centos even |
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| 15:34.11 | cb400f | Tom_UK: are you registered/identified? |
| 15:34.36 | cb400f | think #fedora only lets in people identified by freenode.. maybe centos does the same |
| 15:34.59 | cb400f | what error do you get when trying to join= |
| 15:35.02 | cb400f | ? |
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| 15:36.25 | Tom_UK | cb400f no |
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| 15:39.19 | esperegu_ | which regular expression editor to use in kde? |
| 15:39.32 | pinotree | kregexpeditor (kde3 application) |
| 15:40.22 | esperegu_ | pinotree: does not seem to be a package of that in the standard repos. |
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| 15:41.07 | pinotree | esperegu_: well, that's a question you should ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 15:45.54 | adac | Is it possible to create an executable .desktop file without giving the full path (/full/path/executable.sh) a shell script that is located one folder above the .desktop file. (like path/executable.sh) |
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| 15:47.28 | pinotree | adac: no, see http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html |
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| 15:48.55 | adac | pinotree, I will have a look at that. It is just so that i want to place those .desktop files on an usb stick to start programs on the usb stick. Of course path to programs then can change because of probably different mountpoints |
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| 15:50.34 | romulo | does anyone know how to receive a click signal in a plasmoid python applet? |
| 15:51.24 | Simkin | i need help diagnosing kbuildsycoca4 |
| 15:51.25 | Simkin | really bad |
| 15:51.35 | Simkin | it runs, but never completes |
| 15:51.39 | Simkin | it just hangs |
| 15:51.50 | Simkin | but there is no output, and no way that i can see to make it show output |
| 15:52.05 | Simkin | how do i trace down the problem? without it i can't upgrade my packages |
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| 15:55.10 | thiago | you have to rebuild in debug mode to see the output |
| 15:55.24 | Simkin | ok |
| 15:55.26 | Simkin | how do i do that |
| 15:55.34 | Simkin | i tried kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental --global |
| 15:56.01 | Simkin | i see the --track menu-id option |
| 15:56.09 | Simkin | but idunno what to put for menu-id |
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| 15:57.55 | gorgonzola | hello all! silly question: I want to upgrade to Jaunty Beta, but i have fglrx drivers installed, and trhe upgrader complains that there are no working versions of this driver for jaunty. If i press "continue", will the upgrader cleanly remove fglrx and replace it with radeon or something, or would it be better to remove fglrx before and then upgrade? |
| 15:58.33 | Simkin | gorgonzola: join #ubuntu |
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| 15:58.41 | Simkin | or $kubuntu i guess |
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| 15:58.56 | gorgonzola | DAMN!, terribly sorry, i thought that this was kubuntu. my bad, sorry for your time :S |
| 15:59.09 | gorgonzola | see ya! |
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| 16:02.31 | Simkin | i stracted it |
| 16:02.45 | Simkin | it is stopping at futex(0x1e6bee4, FUTEXT_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL |
| 16:02.52 | Simkin | i do not know what a futex is though |
| 16:03.06 | thiago | fast user-space mutex |
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| 16:04.24 | Simkin | ok |
| 16:04.26 | Simkin | what's that |
| 16:04.35 | Simkin | how do i diagnose why it is freezing? |
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| 16:12.35 | DDevine | adac: You could probably make a bash script that you could click to automatically set up the paths for the .desktop files. |
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| 16:13.05 | adac | DDevine, yeah I was thinking on the same |
| 16:13.29 | DDevine | adac: You gave me an interesting idea for a cool app... you could have some .desktop files on a usb key and also an executable script that sets up your shortcuts wherever you go. |
| 16:13.45 | DDevine | From the .desktop files you could easily support gnome too. |
| 16:13.56 | DDevine | Interesting... |
| 16:14.16 | adac | DDevine, aye that would be nice and that is what I want to do :) |
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| 16:14.43 | DDevine | adac: I came in late and did not read the first part of your conversation. |
| 16:14.47 | DDevine | Will do that now. |
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| 16:14.56 | adac | DDevine, It's ok! :) |
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| 16:15.03 | adac | me too :D |
| 16:15.38 | DDevine | adac: Got an email or something. I will think about this more. |
| 16:15.54 | DDevine | don't shout it out in this channel. |
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| 16:16.18 | adac | DDevine, why not? ;) |
| 16:16.27 | DDevine | Just 'cause/ |
| 16:16.51 | DDevine | Ultimately your choice though. |
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| 16:20.55 | DDevine | adac: Going to send your email? |
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| 16:23.11 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 16:23.12 | Ronis_BR | is thera a way in kmail to avoid dimap to download messages above 5MiB? |
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| 16:23.35 | thiago | no |
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| 16:23.39 | thiago | it downloads everything |
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| 16:32.56 | Simkin | thiago, so what can i do about thie futex problem |
| 16:33.00 | Simkin | i don't even know wher to begin |
| 16:33.20 | thiago | it's not a futex problem |
| 16:33.23 | thiago | it's a deadlock |
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| 16:33.26 | thiago | bug in the code |
| 16:34.00 | Simkin | what package contains kbuildsoca4 |
| 16:34.14 | Simkin | i will try to revert to an older version or to upgrade to a newer version |
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| 16:35.32 | pinotree | kdelibs |
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| 16:38.14 | Simkin | i'm using gentoo. options for kdelibs is 4.2.1 4.2.1-r1 4.2.1-r2 and 4.2.1-r3 |
| 16:38.29 | Simkin | should i just try the latest? 4.2.1-r2 is installed right now. |
| 16:38.42 | Simkin | would turning on the debug use flag be useful in this case? |
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| 16:41.57 | GnuBoi | will money help for KDE development |
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| 16:42.20 | ccccc | salut, viens me voir nue sur mon site internet : http://www.maxicanne.com (GRATUIT) |
| 16:42.27 | pinotree | ccccc: go away |
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| 16:47.45 | Sho_ | GnuBoi: well it certainly won't hurt |
| 16:48.15 | Sho_ | GnuBoi: KDE e.V. uses money to organize developer conferences, a KDE booth at expos to get new people interested, etc. |
| 16:48.33 | GnuBoi | Sho_: doesn't it hire programmers |
| 16:52.03 | GnuBoi | Sho_: then why don't Konqueror's google search generate revenue like that of firefox |
| 16:53.58 | Sho_ | GnuBoi: No, KDE doesn't employ programmers (KDE e.V. has one administrative employee, though) |
| 16:54.04 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
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| 16:54.11 | GnuBoi | ok |
| 16:54.29 | Sho_ | GnuBoi: As for why or whether Google search doesn't generate revenue for KDE ... dunno about that |
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| 16:54.50 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to have plasma and window previews when compiz-fusion is running? its using kde4-window-decorator |
| 16:55.26 | GnuBoi | Sho_: i just wanted KDE to be developed with that revenue OK BYE |
| 16:55.31 | GnuBoi | thanks for your tume |
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| 17:28.03 | Goliath23 | hi |
| 17:28.18 | Goliath23 | is there a way to make mozilla 3 use the kde4 file dialog? |
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| 17:30.15 | pinotree | Goliath23: sounds like a question to be asked in a mozilla channel... |
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| 17:30.55 | Goliath23 | uhm, yes, i'll try :) |
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| 17:33.30 | Sho_ | Goliath23: (yes, kgtk, see www.kde-apps.org) |
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| 17:33.38 | Goliath23 | Sho_: ah, thanks, i'll try. |
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| 17:35.49 | Goliath23 | Sho_: uh, kgtk seems a bit like a hack. |
| 17:35.51 | roakes | Does anyone know if KnowledgeBase has a good article on the Qt Xml classes? Also, is there a good place to get Xml architectural advice? |
| 17:36.47 | Sho_ | Goliath23: yes, it very much is a hack |
| 17:37.10 | Sho_ | Goliath23: For a non-hack version, contribute a KDE/Qt integration patch to Mozilla |
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| 17:37.45 | Goliath23 | over in #firefox they told me, that the answer is most certainly "no". but you could make konqueror use gecko. well... thanks. but no :) |
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| 17:38.24 | Sho_ | Goliath23: Firefox considers itself a Gnome application |
| 17:38.35 | Goliath23 | I know. |
| 17:38.41 | Sho_ | That's what Asa Dotzler told me three years ago when I asked him about the file dialog issue |
| 17:38.49 | Goliath23 | ah |
| 17:39.02 | Sho_ | Personally, I plan to ditch Firefox for Arora soon |
| 17:39.07 | Goliath23 | did anyone ever try to add those patches? |
| 17:39.42 | Goliath23 | I mean, are they open for it? |
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| 17:40.34 | Sho_ | There have been multiple "port Gecko to Qt" efforts over the years. Some failed because of resistance from Mozilla, some failed because the authors themselves (or their employers) lost interest. But all of those only worked on the "getting Gecko to paint via Qt and use Qt widgets" stuff first, and never got around to things like file dialogs, KWallet, etc afaik |
| 17:41.20 | Sho_ | The last of these efforts was undertaken by Nokia developers and is still part of Mozilla's master branch, as far as I know |
| 17:41.38 | Sho_ | Mozilla supported it, but that might not extend to things like making the actual Firefox-app KDE-friendly with things like file dialogs |
| 17:42.06 | Sho_ | I think Mozilla's interest in a Qt backend for Gecko is only in getting Mobile Firefox (aka Fennec) on Symbian/Series 60, since Nokia is porting/adopting Qt for Series 60 |
| 17:42.27 | Goliath23 | I see, that makes sense |
| 17:42.38 | Sho_ | Nokia seems to have lost interest in the Gecko Qt work they started, though, presumably because they're switching to WebKit like everyone else |
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| 17:43.27 | Goliath23 | for a non-geek end-user the different file dialogs are at least ugly, if not irritating. |
| 17:43.34 | Sho_ | (The Series 60 browser already uses WebKit, but the browser used in the Maemo operating system for their Internet Tablet devices is based on Gecko. I guess at some point they had thought about making the browser a Qt rather than GTK+, and that's why they worked on Gecko Qt. But probably they'll replace Gecko with WebKit now, which is already part of Qt, so they don't need it anymore.) |
| 17:43.35 | Goliath23 | does arora use webkit? |
| 17:43.40 | Sho_ | (The above is pure speculation, btw) |
| 17:43.41 | Flyser | yes |
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| 17:44.01 | Sho_ | *a Qt rather than GTK+ app |
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| 17:44.48 | Goliath23 | firefox will still be the number one browser for at least a few years, i predict. the engine is expected to work. the addons are the differentiators for firefox. |
| 17:44.56 | Flyser | Sho_: qt-firefox was developed for their moblin platform |
| 17:45.01 | Sho_ | Goliath23: Arora uses WebKit, yes. It's UI is pretty Firefox-alike, and it will soon get a nifty extension system which will finally allow me to recreate the Firefox features I rely on in a different browser - and one that is faster and offers better KDE integration. |
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| 17:45.50 | Sho_ | Goliath23: Arora is Qt-only rather than a real KDE app, but in KDE 4.3, it will automatically get KDE file dialogs and hopefully KDE icons via the Oxygen style engine, and they plan to add things like KWallet integration on their end, so down the road, Arora should make a nice KDE browser. |
| 17:45.59 | SandGorgon | I really wish the sandboxing technology of chrome be adopted in the browsers available for KDE... Chrome was the only browser that could not be broken in pwn2own |
| 17:46.15 | Flyser | Sho_: why not i kde 4.2? |
| 17:46.21 | Sho_ | Flyser: Moblin is an Intel project, not Nokia |
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| 17:46.32 | Flyser | maemo sy |
| 17:46.39 | Flyser | s/sy/sry/ |
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| 17:47.06 | Sho_ | Flyser: Because Oxygen linking to KIO to get KDE file dialogs in Qt-only apps was added to trunk, and I don't think this particular change will be backported to the 4.2 branch to appear in 4.2.x releases. But I might turn out to be wrong, which would be nice. |
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| 17:47.21 | Sho_ | Flyser: I mentioned Maemo myself up there :-) |
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| 17:47.48 | Flyser | i see |
| 17:47.57 | Goliath23 | Sho_: sounds interesting. I'll keep an eye on it. although we still have konqueror! I remember, there were discussions, if konqueror could use webkit as well. then again there were voices which were afraid of loosing control over the code base I think |
| 17:48.09 | Goliath23 | webkit is based on khtml's work in parts, right? |
| 17:48.27 | Flyser | webkit is a khtml fork |
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| 17:48.45 | Goliath23 | *nod* |
| 17:48.57 | Flyser | but the codebases differ quiet a bit due to different development directions after the fork |
| 17:49.50 | Sho_ | Goliath23: WebKit is derived from KHTML, yes |
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| 17:56.17 | Stutteringmatt | how does one add XF86 keys in KDE4? |
| 17:56.30 | Goliath23 | had konqueror the foxmarks extension, it would be my only browser :) |
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| 17:57.45 | Stutteringmatt | i want to add custom shortcut keys |
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| 18:03.32 | pumphaus | great.. I've just written my gsoc proposal and want to enter my name in the form.. and guess what happens? konqueror decides to crash -.- |
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| 18:11.54 | sandsmark | pumphaus: I couldn't even log into the google site with konqueror |
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| 18:11.58 | sandsmark | I just got âServer errorsâ |
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| 18:12.43 | latitude | is there any search over websvn? |
| 18:13.05 | sandsmark | latitude: I think lxr.kde.org is as close as you get |
| 18:13.11 | sandsmark | what are you looking for ? |
| 18:13.55 | latitude | sandsmark: decibel |
| 18:14.00 | latitude | can't see it |
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| 18:14.38 | latitude | the site refers to playgrounds but there is no decibel |
| 18:15.33 | sandsmark | latitude: this?: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/network/decibel-kde/ |
| 18:16.06 | sandsmark | bbl |
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| 18:16.41 | kde_pepo | latitude, it is in kdesupport |
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| 18:16.48 | latitude | sandsmark: thank you so much |
| 18:17.12 | latitude | it may be, but i compiled every bit of kdesupport and it still says it need decibel |
| 18:17.15 | latitude | will recheck now |
| 18:17.50 | latitude | yep, thanks again |
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| 18:56.01 | linuksamiko | hello. Is it possible to save chat rooms in kopete? |
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| 18:56.51 | linuksamiko | when ever I turn of Kopete my chatrooms are lost and I have to reconnect them by hand |
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| 19:00.58 | duckinator | hi |
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| 19:09.58 | latitude | sorry, but the problem exists |
| 19:10.26 | latitude | for some reason decibel and tapioca-qt are not found by kdenetwork build |
| 19:10.50 | latitude | they are installed |
| 19:11.12 | latitude | any clues? |
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| 19:13.46 | latitude | even setting DECIBEL_INCLUDES doesn't help |
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| 19:20.01 | freexe | Hi, I'm interested in developing a couple of plasma apps using python, and was wondering if there was a prefered IDE? |
| 19:20.20 | Ace2017_- | freexe: what will the plasma apps do? |
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| 19:21.03 | freexe | I wanted to start by making a little app that talks to gameknot so I can play chess from it |
| 19:21.28 | Guest19666 | hii |
| 19:21.49 | freexe | I normally use eclipse for developing but was curious about other IDEs |
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| 19:23.22 | kendrick | krunner needs to trim :( |
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| 19:23.57 | kendrick | if i highlight an URL from mutt in konsole, and try to paste it into krunner, if it has spaces in the beginning, krunner refuses to do anything with it. if it has spaces at the end, it adds "%20" to the go-to URL |
| 19:24.06 | kendrick | tsk tsk. the old launcher was much kinder :) |
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| 19:24.43 | freexe | What are good kde/plasma/python channels |
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| 19:28.11 | Ace2017_- | kendrick: nope, krunner requires better drives or Xgl |
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| 19:30.37 | kendrick | huh? |
| 19:31.10 | kendrick | i could be confused, but it sounds like you're talking about a diff. issue than i am :) |
| 19:32.31 | Ace2017_- | has the google logo been updated? |
| 19:32.39 | Ace2017_- | oops offtopic, sry |
| 19:33.19 | Ace2017_- | kendrick: you said it needs a trim |
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| 19:33.43 | kendrick | yeah. like. remove whitespace |
| 19:33.48 | kendrick | str = trim(str) |
| 19:33.50 | kendrick | str = str.trim() |
| 19:33.57 | kendrick | or whatever :) |
| 19:34.07 | kendrick | is neck-deep in PHP these days ;) |
| 19:34.12 | imnotgeek | how do I get threaded view and change to sort by date as older first? |
| 19:34.24 | kendrick | if i paste " http://www.yahoo.com/ " i want it to realize that i mean "http://www.yahoo.com/" |
| 19:34.25 | imnotgeek | in kmail |
| 19:34.38 | kendrick | if i paste "http://www.yahoo.com/ ", i don't want it to think i mean "http://www.yahoo.com/%20" |
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| 19:38.55 | imnotgeek | how do I get threaded view and change to sort by date as older first in kmail? |
| 19:41.03 | NSaibot | imnotgeek: sort by date + oldest first + ascending |
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| 19:41.52 | Zordrak | For anyone who was paying attention earlier.. the Quicklaunch plasmoid has been fixed in trunk to work with 4.2.1 ... but problem is.. i cant find the source for it! It's not where i thought it was in playground |
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| 19:42.39 | imnotgeek | NSaibot: how to do it? |
| 19:42.52 | NSaibot | which version of kmail? |
| 19:43.14 | imnotgeek | NSaibot: 4.2.1 |
| 19:43.30 | NSaibot | uhmm, 1.11.1 i suppose then |
| 19:44.24 | NSaibot | there's a button above the email list (actually there are 5 of them) whith a down arrow |
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| 19:44.45 | imnotgeek | NSaibot: yeah got that for sort by date. but threads? |
| 19:45.22 | NSaibot | the button on the right of the sort button |
| 19:45.43 | NSaibot | "Current Activity, Threaded" or something like that |
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| 19:46.38 | imnotgeek | NSaibot: ok. let me check |
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| 19:47.31 | imnotgeek | NSaibot: ok thanks. I had missed those buttons for some reasons. thanks a lot. |
| 19:47.39 | NSaibot | np |
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| 19:51.06 | peper | is it possible to disable akonadi completly? |
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| 20:17.25 | winmutt | how do i force kio to only use one window in 4.2 instead of a bazillion when i load a session in kate (sftp://), this used to be a setting in File Manager but I do not see it in Dolphin of Konq |
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| 20:36.17 | winmutt | nothing but idlers here~! |
| 20:36.30 | sandsmark | lolque |
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| 20:41.48 | CarinArr | hi everyone, just a quick question.. how long is it normal for kbuildsycoca4 to take to run? |
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| 20:49.36 | sandsmark | here: 0m0.407s |
| 20:50.35 | massimo | Hello. konsole saves everything but colorscheme as default session setting. It's konsole-3.5.9 on gentoo. |
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| 20:52.20 | massimo | I switch color scheme, save the default setting, close konsole. New konsole has the default color scheme. |
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| 20:55.09 | Zordrak | For reference |
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| 20:55.31 | Zordrak | the latest quicklaunch widget code fixes the bug and works it 4.2.1 |
| 20:55.53 | sandsmark | massimo: that's ooold |
| 20:55.59 | Zordrak | advise people to build the applet from trunk source and replace the .so |
| 20:56.09 | sandsmark | massimo: I don't have that problem with konsole in kde 4 |
| 20:56.17 | frankS2 | why do the fonts in the KDE system look so ... misfit? |
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| 20:56.26 | sandsmark | ? |
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| 20:56.30 | sandsmark | frankS2: they look okay for me |
| 20:57.10 | sandsmark | (old) screenie: http://photo.klette.us/i/38/26eb8-screenie7.png |
| 20:57.22 | Zordrak | asol wouldnt hurt to point them at the code since it's so UNBELIEVABLY hard to find |
| 20:57.50 | Zordrak | /trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/quicklaunch |
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| 21:00.19 | Half-Left | hmm, Looks like latest Kubuntu is shaping up well, it's all Qt4 including it's tools |
| 21:00.50 | GNU\colossus | Half-Left: which tools, for example? |
| 21:01.04 | sandsmark | Half-Left: so it's finally catching up :P |
| 21:01.28 | Half-Left | packagekit, hardware manager, actual setup |
| 21:01.37 | GNU\colossus | is there a frontend for networkmanager yet? |
| 21:01.50 | Half-Left | Yep, it has it as the plasmoid |
| 21:01.53 | GNU\colossus | ideally one that supports all that VPN and UMTS crap, too? |
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| 21:02.08 | Half-Left | VPN yes |
| 21:02.40 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Yep, it's polished for a beta as I've tested |
| 21:03.05 | GNU\colossus | sounds good. |
| 21:03.13 | GNU\colossus | maybe I'll be using it on my new thinkpad then |
| 21:03.15 | Half-Left | Also it comes with a nicer matching gtk theme |
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| 21:03.26 | sandsmark | they don't use the qt-gtk-engine ? |
| 21:03.28 | Half-Left | similar to Oxygen |
| 21:03.47 | Half-Left | Yes they do, but it's looks closer to Oxygen |
| 21:03.47 | sandsmark | why not just USE oxygen ? :P |
| 21:03.58 | Half-Left | Well gtk apps can't :) |
| 21:03.59 | sandsmark | are they using that oxygen-clone ? |
| 21:04.09 | sandsmark | Half-Left: if they use the qt-gtk-engine, they can |
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| 21:04.22 | Half-Left | Yer but it's buggy |
| 21:04.26 | sandsmark | not here |
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| 21:04.50 | Half-Left | It doesn't show the gtk colours right and the menus corners are wrong |
| 21:05.00 | Half-Left | For example, in firefox |
| 21:05.01 | sandsmark | Half-Left: how old is your version ? |
| 21:05.31 | Half-Left | I think it's 0.8 |
| 21:05.43 | sandsmark | I have the svn version here |
| 21:05.46 | sandsmark | the gtk-oxygen-theme looked like 4.0 oxygen last I tried it |
| 21:05.48 | sandsmark | it looked horrible :> |
| 21:05.52 | Half-Left | ahhh thats it, it uses the gtk Qt curve |
| 21:06.20 | wilder | sandsmark: now it's kinda better |
| 21:06.55 | Half-Left | That gtk Qt curve how they have done it looks nice in the gtk apps |
| 21:07.01 | Half-Left | with Oxygen |
| 21:07.03 | sandsmark | Half-Left: ? |
| 21:07.10 | sandsmark | Half-Left: qt 4.5 uses the gtk style directly |
| 21:07.52 | Half-Left | Your talking about gtk themes in Qt |
| 21:08.11 | Half-Left | Which don't actually work proper because of a gtk bug |
| 21:08.12 | sandsmark | not initially |
| 21:08.36 | sandsmark | Half-Left: are you talking about Qt apps using gtk-engines, or GTK apps looking good in kde ? |
| 21:08.53 | Half-Left | Well in Qt4.5 you can use gtk themes |
| 21:09.06 | sandsmark | yes |
| 21:09.22 | sandsmark | I just installed gtk-kde42-oxygen-theme, and it still looks pretty bad :> |
| 21:09.30 | Half-Left | right, not the other way around without the gtk style |
| 21:09.31 | sandsmark | menus are all wrong, for example |
| 21:09.43 | Half-Left | Yer |
| 21:09.48 | sandsmark | Half-Left: well, installing a style isn't rocket science :P |
| 21:10.25 | Half-Left | But what I'm saying is that they have a gtkQtcuve style that looks consistant with Oxygen and Qt4 apps |
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| 21:10.52 | Half-Left | It's about the best I've seen to be honest |
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| 21:10.54 | wilder | sandsmark: yeah menu color is wrong, but with qt-engine I get all kind of weird glitches |
| 21:11.04 | wilder | scrollbars lose pieces |
| 21:11.07 | sandsmark | wilder: you're probably using an old version |
| 21:11.10 | wilder | tabs are screwed |
| 21:11.13 | wilder | probably, yes |
| 21:11.15 | sandsmark | a very old version |
| 21:11.20 | sandsmark | wilder: which distro are you using ? |
| 21:11.26 | wilder | gentoo |
| 21:11.29 | sandsmark | :> |
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| 21:12.03 | wilder | 1.1-r1 here |
| 21:12.04 | Half-Left | Should have made a screenshot |
| 21:12.39 | sandsmark | kdemod-playground/kdemod-extragear-gtk-qt-engine-svn 145-4 here |
| 21:12.45 | Half-Left | Their 0.4 kpackagekit is nice as well |
| 21:13.23 | sandsmark | good thing they're paying so many developers to work on all this ! :p |
| 21:13.55 | Half-Left | hehe, well kpackagekit is developed by fedora devs I think |
| 21:14.26 | sandsmark | the networkmanager applet was initially developed by will from novell, and then some people working on their spare time, iirc :P |
| 21:14.40 | Half-Left | Or some of them are working on it but it looks nice anyway. It's nice to see everything Qt on it's default install |
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| 21:14.56 | sandsmark | that should be a minimum, imho |
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| 21:15.27 | Half-Left | it's also very vanilla as well |
| 21:15.35 | wilder | sandsmark: I'll give it a try |
| 21:16.12 | Half-Left | I hate distros that brand KDE to much, *cough opensuse cough* |
| 21:16.13 | sandsmark | Half-Left: try to pull an âaptitude purge gtk2â :P |
| 21:16.26 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 21:17.40 | Half-Left | Kubuntu beta only includes one plasma theme and one wallpaper and no kdegames though |
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| 21:18.17 | Half-Left | Maybe to do with fitting on the cd, seems a shame |
| 21:20.47 | sandsmark | yeah, having to fit all those gnome libraries on it as well, :P |
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| 21:23.16 | Half-Left | haha, well it's purely Qt4, no gtk apps I can see |
| 21:23.58 | sandsmark | well, try to uninstall gtk and see what goes with it |
| 21:24.02 | Half-Left | Fedora is the one that has network manager gnome libs, pulseaudio and such in their KDE version |
| 21:24.27 | sandsmark | or try uninstalling libbonobo or some other gnome library |
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| 21:25.04 | Half-Left | it dont use network manager gtk frontend or firefox |
| 21:27.27 | Half-Left | Even the install screen is all Qt4 |
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| 21:28.07 | sandsmark | well, opensuse has had all-qt4-install since 4.1, or was it 4.0 ? |
| 21:28.32 | Half-Left | From what I've seen of 11.1 it's didn't look like Qt4 |
| 21:28.42 | sandsmark | they use qss to style it |
| 21:28.43 | sandsmark | iir |
| 21:28.51 | sandsmark | c |
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| 21:29.04 | sandsmark | same as we do in chakra |
| 21:29.05 | Half-Left | And had all the horrid branding and crystal icons in it's menu |
| 21:29.34 | sandsmark | they have a corporate identity ;) |
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| 21:29.51 | Half-Left | Ugh, well it's opensuse |
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| 21:30.17 | sandsmark | at least novell pays for several core kde developers |
| 21:30.26 | Half-Left | And there desktop icons for their branging are root as well |
| 21:30.33 | Half-Left | branding* |
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| 21:32.29 | Half-Left | Somehow their kickoff menu is hard rooted to show crystal icons, god knows why that is |
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| 21:37.00 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Atleast they are mono free as well :p |
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| 21:38.08 | cb400f | Half-Left: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/bug-439015-use-oxygen-icons-in-app-menu-in-kickoff/ |
| 21:38.17 | cb400f | the new icons are in opensuse factory kde |
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| 21:39.42 | Half-Left | cb400f: About time |
| 21:40.11 | cb400f | Half-Left: and if you don't like the branding: 'zypper in kdebase4-workspace-branding-upstream' |
| 21:40.20 | cb400f | pats geeko |
| 21:40.25 | Half-Left | cb400f: Yep, I've seen that |
| 21:41.46 | Half-Left | cb400f: SUSE have always branded their distro but it looks so odd in KDE4 |
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| 21:56.21 | josh-l | has anyone successfully replaced gimp with krita? |
| 21:56.42 | Half-Left | Yep |
| 21:56.59 | josh-l | really? cool so it can be done |
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| 21:57.39 | Half-Left | Krita just doesn't do it for me, it's rather to unstable and lacks |
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| 21:58.23 | josh-l | Half-Left: i thought you just said you replaced gimp with krita |
| 21:59.09 | Half-Left | Oh, I never used Krita over GIMP anyway :p |
| 22:00.02 | josh-l | i find it kinda buggy too, plus i'm so damn used to gimp |
| 22:00.38 | Half-Left | Quite frankly I don't see how you can use Krita for serious production work, from when I've tried to use it, it's been not vety good in that regard |
| 22:00.39 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 22:00.53 | Half-Left | very* |
| 22:00.56 | sandsmark | josh-l: gimp is more of a photo manipulation app |
| 22:00.59 | sandsmark | krita is for drawing |
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| 22:01.17 | Half-Left | Well, they both do it |
| 22:01.28 | josh-l | Half-Left: im not sure krita seems to have all the necessary tools, but i just cant get used to the layout, not to mention its slower than gimp for me |
| 22:01.31 | cb400f | josh-l: I have too.. but I usually only scale, crop and change brightness :-) |
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| 22:02.13 | Half-Left | Indeed, applying filters in krita is painfully slow |
| 22:02.34 | cb400f | which krita version are you using? .. koffice 2.0 is out 1 month from now |
| 22:02.50 | cb400f | will be an early immature release though |
| 22:02.56 | Half-Left | Some nice features like layer grouping but it just don't cut it for me on production |
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| 22:03.02 | josh-l | im using koffice2 on kubuntu jaunty |
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| 22:03.11 | xombie | hello all |
| 22:03.15 | cb400f | so, you're using a beta :-) |
| 22:03.36 | josh-l | yeah i know its beta but still |
| 22:03.45 | Half-Left | I used GIMP beta and it was never that unstable :p |
| 22:03.48 | josh-l | as you say 1 month away from release right |
| 22:03.51 | xombie | im running 4.2, I'm trying to change my KDM settings, but I can't run systemsetttings under root for some reason, can anyone help? |
| 22:04.44 | Half-Left | I think they try to catch Photoshop up, when really they should be catching GIMP |
| 22:05.46 | Half-Left | xombie: It's not implemented, some distros will and have in their versions |
| 22:05.48 | cb400f | I think they're trying to catch krita 1.6 right now ;-) |
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| 22:06.09 | josh-l | im sticking with gimp for now |
| 22:06.29 | Half-Left | I like their UI, 2.0 beta is nice in that respect but thats about it |
| 22:06.30 | josh-l | i havent given kword much of a try other than opening it realy :) but i'm trying that out too |
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| 22:06.45 | josh-l | i found the 2.0 ui pretty much the same as 1.6 |
| 22:07.09 | Half-Left | Seems tighter and neater |
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| 22:08.08 | xombie | is there a kdesudo in kde4.2? |
| 22:08.25 | josh-l | anyone use stasks for the panel? |
| 22:08.26 | Half-Left | I can do Photoshop like work in GIMP anyway so it suits me |
| 22:08.31 | cb400f | josh-l: as with kde4 porting to qt4 is a huge job.. and they've done tons of low level stuff in libraries and things |
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| 22:09.41 | cb400f | and noone is expecting krita/koffice 2.0 to konquer the world |
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| 22:09.51 | ultrav1olet | FTP doesn't work at all for me in KDE 4.2.1, Konq and Dolphin don't want to open any FTP address |
| 22:10.15 | josh-l | cb400f: I would just like to replace everything with kde apps, i love kde... |
| 22:10.32 | josh-l | i really like konqueror, but for the life of me no matter how hard i try i cant get it to replace firefox |
| 22:10.32 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: me too.... |
| 22:10.35 | ultrav1olet | Dolphin silently fails and shows nothing, Konq shows a very strange error message: Access Denied and URL: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/ Protocol: ftp Additional Information: smb://mirrors.kernel.org/ |
| 22:10.53 | ultrav1olet | is it a known issue? Any workaround? |
| 22:11.00 | josh-l | plus without an opera qt4 for x64 i dont bother with that either... |
| 22:11.07 | ultrav1olet | WTF, Konq says: Additional Information: smb://mirrors.kernel.org/ ??? |
| 22:11.14 | Half-Left | yep, same here |
| 22:11.16 | ultrav1olet | I'm not opening smb:// |
| 22:12.13 | Half-Left | Konqueror or Opera doesn't render igoogle and their services proper |
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| 22:12.25 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: yes, check proxy settings... |
| 22:12.46 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: disable the proxy, and make a direct connection.... |
| 22:12.55 | josh-l | anyone happen to know if I can merge kde-look.org accounts? |
| 22:13.42 | ultrav1olet | Psifidotos: proxy is disabled |
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| 22:14.02 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: did you check it inside the konqueror? |
| 22:14.13 | ultrav1olet | Wow, I've found a bug |
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| 22:14.50 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: Settings -> Konqueror Settings |
| 22:15.25 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: Proxy Settings -> Direct connection |
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| 22:17.18 | ultrav1olet | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188290 |
| 22:17.57 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: exactly.... :) I had the same issue... |
| 22:18.09 | ultrav1olet | Well, add your voice to this bug. |
| 22:18.44 | Psifidotos | I added it here, and I have to wash dishes... :) |
| 22:18.57 | ultrav1olet | I'm sure it requires no more than ten minutes of hacking to be resolved |
| 22:20.49 | Psifidotos | probably, but KDE developers have done so much work the last months.... they will fix it eventually.... |
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| 22:21.39 | ultrav1olet | David Faure has just reassured me this bug was already fixed in trunk |
| 22:21.49 | ultrav1olet | Psifidotos: can you run/test trunk? |
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| 22:29.20 | ultrav1olet | actually he isn't sure |
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| 22:29.50 | ultrav1olet | Well, anyway it's now in bugzilla and I hope someone will look at it ;) |
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| 22:30.55 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: I dont think , sorry... |
| 22:31.13 | Rasi | anyone got konqueror mouse gestures to work in 4.2.1? |
| 22:32.45 | thiago_home | they don't work |
| 22:32.50 | thiago_home | haven't worked since 4.0 |
| 22:33.03 | thiago_home | I don't think the khotkeys code has been ported yet |
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| 22:34.11 | cb400f | khotkeys works now.. dunno about mouse gestures though |
| 22:34.24 | cb400f | think it works in >= 4.1.4 |
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| 22:35.57 | Half-Left | feels a disturbance in the force, it's 4.2.2 being near |
| 22:36.27 | devilsadvocate | hi, when I try to send an email from krunner (alt + f2, type contact name, click on send email) It gets a litte confused due to the formatted name |
| 22:36.37 | devilsadvocate | is this a known issue/ am i doing something wrong? |
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| 22:40.48 | ld50 | does networkmanager applet for kde4 work? or is it too unstable? |
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| 22:42.15 | Half-Left | ld50: Yep but it's still testing |
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| 22:42.47 | ld50 | where should i look for it, playground? |
| 22:43.25 | Half-Left | I believe so yes, it's still in there |
| 22:43.31 | ultrav1olet | ld50: what is it supposed to di? |
| 22:44.07 | ld50 | "Network configuration and management" |
| 22:44.21 | ultrav1olet | this must be distro specific |
| 22:44.40 | Half-Left | No, it's KDE4 specific |
| 22:45.23 | Half-Left | Kubuntu has it in their beta for example |
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| 22:45.43 | ultrav1olet | I just cannot believe in that - KDE devs have better things to do than create a network configuration utility for tens of different distros |
| 22:45.52 | ultrav1olet | _Kubuntu_ |
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| 22:46.03 | thiago_home | it's distro specific |
| 22:46.07 | Half-Left | How do you mean? |
| 22:46.08 | thiago_home | not all distributions use NM |
| 22:46.12 | ultrav1olet | like I said |
| 22:46.20 | ld50 | ultrav1olet, it's just a frontend to NM |
| 22:46.21 | Half-Left | It's just a front end |
| 22:46.28 | thiago_home | sorry, no |
| 22:46.42 | thiago_home | the "front-end" for NM is more than what one would reasonably consider a front-end |
| 22:46.45 | thiago_home | it's messy code |
| 22:46.55 | thiago_home | if it were just a front-end, it would have been finished a long time ago |
| 22:47.28 | Psifidotos | you can use knetworkmanager from kde3 it works fine until the module finishes... |
| 22:47.46 | Half-Left | it's just a plasmoid and it needs network manager, so that would make it a frontend surely |
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| 22:48.21 | ultrav1olet | nonono - one must be completely brainf*cked to even have kde3-libs installed :) |
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| 22:49.59 | reavertm | ultrav1olet: some still do - for amarok or k3b purpose ;) |
| 22:50.10 | Half-Left | hehe |
| 22:50.31 | thiago_home | amarok2 |
| 22:50.35 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: until kde 4 reaches a good maturity point.... some things must comprimised.. |
| 22:50.58 | Half-Left | And Konversation, for those who don't know there is a KDE4 version in svn :p |
| 22:51.13 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: i use it and it's great... :) |
| 22:51.26 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: i talk you through it.... |
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| 22:54.19 | DrSlony | Help, my kmenu doesnt get saved when I edit it. To be precise, I use the old KDE3 menu style (in KDE4) and I remove a FreeCol dir and a Wine/Programs dir, hit save. Open the Kmenu and theyre still there. Open the menu editor again, theyre there. |
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| 23:00.15 | ultrav1olet | Psifidotos: I quite agree with you, that's why I use KDE 3.5.10 at home |
| 23:00.58 | ultrav1olet | Konverstation for KDE4 is already usable |
| 23:01.12 | ultrav1olet | you have just to grab it from SVN |
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| 23:02.00 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: i took konversation from opensuse repos |
| 23:02.36 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: yes I like KDE 3.5.10 but I like the look of KDE 4 :) |
| 23:02.55 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: so I use only KDE 4 everywhere... :) |
| 23:03.22 | Psifidotos | ultrav1olet: I used KDE 3.5 for 2 years I think I want something new... :) |
| 23:04.32 | DrSlony | Is there anything that I can do to make dolphin not so goddamn slow? Its completely unusable on a dir which has just 131 files. |
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| 23:04.50 | cb400f | is preview enabled? |
| 23:05.01 | cb400f | .. and what are the types of files? |
| 23:05.25 | Psifidotos | c u around everybody .... |
| 23:05.55 | DrSlony | no preview is not enabled, and they are mmp and scr files |
| 23:06.03 | DrSlony | same thing with a dir with mp3 files |
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| 23:06.19 | DrSlony | i tried several times and had to kill dolphin |
| 23:06.24 | DrSlony | now magically the dir is browsable |
| 23:07.21 | cb400f | hm.. seems it's a bit faster with detailed view than icon view here |
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| 23:07.32 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 23:07.32 | cb400f | (tested with /usr/bin/ with 2360 files) |
| 23:07.53 | Ronis_BR | is there a way in kmail to avoid it to download messages bigger than 5MiB? I'm using dIMAP. |
| 23:08.34 | DrSlony | cb400f i use detailed view. |
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| 23:09.03 | DrSlony | automatigally the moment i complained here it works fast, in both the dir weith mmp/scr and the dir with music |
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| 23:09.25 | DrSlony | *automagically |
| 23:09.27 | DrSlony | :] |
| 23:10.01 | cb400f | hmm |
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| 23:17.59 | Necrosporus | How to add an passkey to kdebluetooth? |
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| 23:24.39 | mitch00 | i just added a device notifier to my panel, but upon logging out and back in, it's still there but in a different place on my panel. anyone know what the cause might be? |
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| 23:26.24 | sandsmark | mitch00: do you have lots of spacers ? |
| 23:26.35 | mitch00 | sandsmark: 2 |
| 23:26.52 | mitch00 | is that considered "a lot"? |
| 23:27.06 | sandsmark | idunno |
| 23:27.11 | sandsmark | I just have one, and it works |
| 23:27.18 | sandsmark | I used to have like 5, and then things moved around |
| 23:27.19 | frankS2 | hi, why do GTK2 apps look so ugly in KDE4? firefox, pidgin and more |
| 23:27.40 | sandsmark | gtk2's default theme is ugly ? |
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| 23:28.04 | frankS2 | no? in gnome it looks good |
| 23:28.06 | mitch00 | sandsmark: hmmm. i'll try removing one and see if it makes any difference |
| 23:28.27 | sandsmark | frankS2: in gnome you don't use the default gtk theme |
| 23:28.58 | sandsmark | gtk2 is an inferior toolkit, it is unable to detect that it is running in kde, and emulate the look and feel |
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| 23:29.30 | Ace2017_- | frankS2: you could install qtcurve |
| 23:29.33 | mitch00 | frankS2: get the app gtk-theme-switch2 and run it to change your gnome theme |
| 23:34.01 | Necrosporus | How can I start pairing procedure with kdebluetooth? |
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