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| 00:03.20 | fengshaun | I built trunk using kdesvn-build, but I don't have that fancy oxygen theme, I have the old one. Is anything wrong here? What can I do to get the new oxy theme? |
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| 00:14.13 | na_praia | its weird because when i want to remove kpersonalizer it says it will also remove those packages.... :/ |
| 00:14.31 | na_praia | how can i remove kpersonalizer without removing the kde-core kde-devel kde-devel-extras and kdebase???......its weird because when i want to remove kpersonalizer it says it will also remove those packages.... :/ |
| 00:14.42 | na_praia | i'm on kubuntu |
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| 00:20.32 | k1en | hi, can anyone instruct on how to create a right-click print option for jpeg/png/doc on konqueror? |
| 00:20.49 | k1en | k1en or direct me to a HOWTO |
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| 01:29.40 | soccerjonp | quick question: mouse gestures aren't in 4.2.2 afaik, but are they implemented in trunk? Are they planned to be included in 4.3? |
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| 01:58.08 | battlemidget | aanyone seen this error when building k3b from svn http://pastebin.com/d4485b5d5 |
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| 01:59.01 | peaches | soccerjonp: theyre working in trunk (but configure is crash prone) |
| 01:59.15 | soccerjonp | ok, thanks, peaches |
| 01:59.21 | peaches | doubt theyre going to be in 4.3 |
| 01:59.31 | soccerjonp | aww, too bad |
| 01:59.45 | peaches | yeah mouse gesture are best thing since sliced bread |
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| 02:00.01 | soccerjonp | I agree |
| 02:00.15 | soccerjonp | oh well, easystroke here I come |
| 02:00.18 | peaches | the algorithm that matches it in KDE is extremely nice |
| 02:00.38 | Jucato | <peaches> yeah mouse gesture are best thing since sliced bread <---- you can slice bread with mouse gestures... |
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| 02:01.02 | peaches | haha |
| 02:01.04 | soccerjonp | haha |
| 02:01.12 | peaches | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:01.36 | soccerjonp | it's pretty nice, but I'm sure khotkeys will be much better |
| 02:01.50 | peaches | ive got my whole kwin controlled by gestures, minimize, maximize, move hehe |
| 02:02.11 | soccerjonp | how? I thought you said it was broken? |
| 02:02.44 | peaches | plus the separate dashboard in 4.3 is great with that |
| 02:03.05 | peaches | no, the configuration is broken.. gestures themselves work. you just have to go through a painful config |
| 02:03.15 | soccerjonp | ahh, I see |
| 02:03.35 | soccerjonp | can you do the painful config in 4.2.2? or 4.3? |
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| 02:04.18 | peaches | soccerjonp: dunno what are you in now? |
| 02:04.26 | peaches | im not sure if 4.3 has been frozen or what |
| 02:04.29 | soccerjonp | 4.2.2 |
| 02:04.43 | peaches | set on up and see if it works |
| 02:04.55 | soccerjonp | don't even know where to start? |
| 02:05.07 | peaches | for some reason i think it should.. i dont think there has been any work on khotkeys in a while |
| 02:05.15 | soccerjonp | I assume I have to edit a config file somewhere in ~/.kde |
| 02:05.19 | peaches | alt+f2 type Input Actions |
| 02:06.22 | peaches | and make sure khotkeys is running in service manager |
| 02:06.30 | Jucato | System Settings -> Input Actions (once it's fixed) |
| 02:06.43 | soccerjonp | tried that, but there are only two options in right click -> new global shortcut: command/url or dbus-command |
| 02:07.00 | peaches | ah |
| 02:07.33 | soccerjonp | what is so painful about the config if it's right there in trunk? |
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| 02:07.49 | peaches | ok it would show up as new-> mouse gesture action |
| 02:07.59 | soccerjonp | ok |
| 02:08.32 | peaches | well right now the config module crashes after every save of an item. have to restart |
| 02:08.51 | soccerjonp | haha, ok |
| 02:08.59 | soccerjonp | could be worse |
| 02:09.10 | peaches | i set up a bunch of them.. it was worth it though haha |
| 02:09.24 | peaches | yep cant complain too much put it that way |
| 02:09.49 | soccerjonp | definitly, I'm always jealous of the svn folks... I'm too lazy |
| 02:11.55 | peaches | yea that can take a lot of effort to set up and maintain.. ive got it out of necessity now..when some bugs are just too annoying to wait for a fix |
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| 02:12.30 | soccerjonp | right |
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| 02:39.22 | asdfasdfsdf | hello im using fedora 10 kde and when i log out fedora wont wait for the music (which lasts 17 secs) is there a way to make fedora wait till log out sound is played? |
| 02:40.20 | asdfasdfsdf | also i noticed (dunno if its a distro issue) that the log in sound is played after system is loaded, it would be cool if it could be played a few secs after or during splash screen (just like windows) |
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| 02:50.18 | xenoterracide | are there any kde apps for twittering? |
| 02:50.28 | xenoterracide | isn't sure I care... |
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| 02:52.10 | Jucato | choqok |
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| 03:25.20 | benzi | what happened to kfmclient in KDE 4? |
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| 03:26.58 | drantin | benzi: I seem to have it as part of kdebase 4.2.2 |
| 03:27.11 | benzi | oh, right, it's still there |
| 03:27.13 | benzi | my bad |
| 03:27.13 | benzi | I meant |
| 03:27.22 | benzi | what happened to the "copy" command for kfmclient in KDE 4? |
| 03:27.33 | benzi | it doesn't exist any more, and I can't figure out how I'm supposed to get that functionality |
| 03:27.51 | drantin | what did it do? |
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| 03:28.19 | Jucato | benzi: kde-copy |
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| 03:28.29 | Jucato | er. kde-cp |
| 03:28.42 | benzi | awesome, Jucato, thanks a lot |
| 03:28.47 | Jucato | kde-cp, kde-mv, kde-open |
| 03:29.12 | TheBlunderbuss | Ok. So I did something with my mouse, and the workplace zoomed out to show all my desktops. This is extremely USEFUL! But I don't know what I did! |
| 03:29.19 | skipper | Really easy question I can't find the answer to. Where is the log for the error messages that pop up on the system tray for KDE 4.2.2 |
| 03:29.36 | benzi | does KDE 4 still use DCOP, or is that deprecated or something |
| 03:29.49 | Jucato | benzi: it uses D-Bus now |
| 03:29.56 | drantin | ctrl-f8 ? |
| 03:29.59 | Jucato | (you can use qdbus for easier d-bus calls) |
| 03:30.12 | TheBlunderbuss | I used only the mouse, drantin |
| 03:30.19 | TheBlunderbuss | So I'm thinking it's a gesture? |
| 03:30.20 | benzi | all right, here I go patzing around with dbus scripts |
| 03:30.20 | Jucato | TheBlunderbuss: maybe you have it setup to Show Desktop Grid when it hits one of the corners |
| 03:30.23 | drantin | mouse to a corner? |
| 03:30.42 | Jucato | (you can check in System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects -> one of the tabs there) |
| 03:30.57 | TheBlunderbuss | ahh there it is |
| 03:31.04 | TheBlunderbuss | haha it was driving me nuts |
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| 03:39.58 | benzi | what the crap? |
| 03:40.10 | benzi | by the way, thanks a lot, Jucato, I'm set with taht script |
| 03:40.55 | benzi | but for some reason, when I use import (imagemagick screen capture), it sometimes "sees through" a window (managed by kwin) and shows the one behind it |
| 03:41.02 | benzi | this never used to happen in kde 3 |
| 03:42.17 | TheBlunderbuss | Can I set the delay on the corners? |
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| 03:49.08 | benzi | hmm... actually, this appears to be a bug in import; scrot takes the screenshots just fine |
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| 04:06.10 | nathanbw | How can I keep Guidance Power Manager from starting up with KDE? |
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| 04:08.30 | peaches | nathanbw: service manager |
| 04:10.06 | nathanbw | peaches, does it go by a different name in service manager? I turned off power devil, and still guidance comes up. (I assume we are talking about System Settings -> Advanced -> Service Manager) |
| 04:10.24 | Ownatik | Hi, I acidently closed the desktop widget. How can I open it back? |
| 04:10.27 | peaches | oh Guidance? |
| 04:10.39 | peaches | i dunno any guidance |
| 04:10.56 | peaches | nathanbw: check your distro |
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| 04:11.05 | peaches | Ownatik: how did you close it |
| 04:11.25 | Ownatik | hmm click the X which appears when i hover it |
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| 04:12.04 | peaches | Ownatik: so what happened normally when you used that widget? |
| 04:12.48 | Ownatik | hmm I had a kind of desktop I could resize and all my stuff from /home/bernier/Desktop was there |
| 04:12.58 | peaches | oh that widget |
| 04:13.05 | Ownatik | yeah |
| 04:13.13 | peaches | Ownatik: it's Folder View |
| 04:13.21 | peaches | re add it as a widget |
| 04:13.32 | Ownatik | ok thank you. |
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| 04:14.10 | peaches | you can also make the entire desktop a folder view by selecting the Folder View activity in desktop settings if you want |
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| 04:16.17 | jseabold | anyone know if the kde notifications that show up on the "i" icon are logged somewhere? |
| 04:19.56 | Jucato | jseabold: that depends on the app that caused the notification to appear. the (i) is just a new location to show/pile up notifications. it doesn't keep track of the notifications themselves (sort of just like putting all notification popups, progress dialog boxes, etc in one place) |
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| 04:21.45 | peaches | logging notifications would be great |
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| 04:24.50 | jseabold | Ah ok thanks. I thought I saw something about this. Maybe an improvement in 4.3? It was Amarok kicking out a HDA audio error or something and wanted to look into it. I always have sound conflicts it seems |
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| 05:24.45 | SoylentYellow | I accidentally killed my KDE taskbar with xkill. How do I reload it without reloging or rebooting? |
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| 05:27.02 | Jucato | SoylentYellow: what KDE version? |
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| 05:27.43 | SoylentYellow | 3.5 |
| 05:27.54 | Jucato | SoylentYellow: Alt+F2, "kicker" |
| 05:28.02 | SoylentYellow | let me give that a shot |
| 05:28.11 | Jucato | scavenges for some Soylent Green in the meantime |
| 05:28.21 | Jucato | (if you have corpses, that would help a lot) |
| 05:28.24 | SoylentYellow | worked! |
| 05:28.35 | SoylentYellow | Thanks for the tip. |
| 05:28.36 | Jucato | of course it would work. :) |
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| 05:30.05 | SoylentYellow | I didn't know kicker = taskbar. |
| 05:30.41 | SoylentYellow | Thanks again. Will have to remember this in the future. |
| 05:30.42 | Jucato | it's the whole panel. the "taskbar" is just part (an applet) of the panel |
| 05:30.52 | SoylentYellow | Oh, I see. |
| 05:30.53 | Jucato | the future has no Kicker though :) |
| 05:31.17 | Jucato | (the desktop and the panel has been merged into one coherent process called "plasma") |
| 05:31.21 | Jucato | (in KDE 4) |
| 05:31.34 | SoylentYellow | I tried running "KDE" but I got the message that KDE was already running. I am newcomer from Windows, so I assumed KDE was like Windows Explorer shell. |
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| 05:32.10 | Jucato | nah. the desktop shell is called "kdesktop" in KDE 3 and it's separate from the panel ("kicker") |
| 05:32.28 | SoylentYellow | Oh. Very modular. |
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| 05:33.12 | SoylentYellow | By the way, Tuesday is Soylent Green day. :) |
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| 05:33.51 | Jucato | ah well, I thought by now Soylent Red and Yellow would have run out :) |
| 05:34.13 | SoylentYellow | :) |
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| 05:35.08 | k1en | can anyone tell me how to print on right-click from konqueror (jpeg/png)? |
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| 05:42.35 | gaten | does KDE4 have a hidden widget layer? |
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| 06:09.51 | aseigo | gaten: "hidden widget layer"? |
| 06:09.57 | aseigo | gaten: you mean lie a dashboard thing? |
| 06:10.52 | aseigo | gaten: if so, yes. alt+f12 |
| 06:11.06 | aseigo | gaten: by default it follows what's on your desktop, but it can be "detached" and show a different set of widgets |
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| 06:17.47 | Jucato | thought the default was Ctrl+F12... |
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| 06:20.01 | gaten | aseigo: thank you. can Jucato was right, its ctrl |
| 06:20.25 | aseigo | whoops, yes, i always reverse my alt/ctrl keys out of personal preference and forget that's not the defaults ;) |
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| 06:23.34 | gaten | :) |
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| 06:27.21 | pavel_ | hi, how do I set chornological order in my kmail? |
| 06:28.02 | aseigo | pavel_: which version of kde? |
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| 06:28.28 | pavel_ | aseigo, 4.2.2 |
| 06:30.12 | aseigo | pavel_: ok.. so at the top of the list there's a button with an arrow pointing down over a list |
| 06:30.18 | aseigo | pavel_: if you hover it a tooltip says "Change |
| 06:30.27 | aseigo | Sort Order" |
| 06:30.35 | aseigo | click it, choose it, live it lavida voda |
| 06:30.39 | aseigo | er, voca |
| 06:30.43 | aseigo | or whatever that phrase is. |
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| 06:31.23 | pavel_ | aseigo, thx :) |
| 06:32.05 | szal | aseigo: I guess you meant to say 'la vida loca' ;) |
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| 06:34.44 | pavel_ | btw: is there comfortable way how to replace kwin with compiz? |
| 06:35.01 | blauzahl | why would you want to do that? ;) |
| 06:35.24 | poutsi | hey, how does one start the kde control center from the command line / hand-edit kde's preferred applications? |
| 06:35.36 | aseigo | szal: THAT's the one. obviously i don't do much of that ;) |
| 06:35.36 | blauzahl | i suspect you might find something on userbase |
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| 06:35.48 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 06:35.50 | aseigo | poutsi: kcmshell --list <-- gives you a list |
| 06:35.58 | poutsi | aseigo, thanks |
| 06:35.59 | aseigo | poutsi: then, e.g., kcmshell mouse |
| 06:36.07 | aseigo | or the whole thing: systemsettings |
| 06:36.11 | poutsi | knew there was a trick to it, didn't remember |
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| 06:36.18 | aseigo | or in krunner (alt+f2) just type like.. "mouse" |
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| 06:36.29 | aseigo | mouse<enter> gets me the mouse control panel |
| 06:36.42 | aseigo | heck.. repeat<enter> gets me the keyboard settings :) |
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| 06:36.57 | pavel_ | blauzahl, well I have plenty of reasons, the first one there is OSD for desktop switching in compiz and it does not allow yout to go over the border of desktop grid |
| 06:37.07 | aseigo | notes that krunner is stupidly smooth in trunk right now.. hiccups seem to be a thing of the past now.. yay |
| 06:37.50 | aseigo | poutsi: if you want to go REAL hardcore though, there's kwriteconfig and kreadconfig for scripting the editing of config files by file/group/key/value tupples |
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| 06:38.04 | blauzahl | huh. |
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| 06:38.37 | aseigo | pavel_: just go into the control panels, preferred apps .. i'm sure you can figure out the rest from there ;) |
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| 06:38.50 | aseigo | er, default apps |
| 06:38.58 | aseigo | or.. alt+f2 -> default -> enter |
| 06:39.19 | pavel_ | aseigo, yeah I tried this way and it set compiz to work, however there vas no accelaration etc. |
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| 06:39.59 | aseigo | pavel_: that would be a compiz configuration issue |
| 06:40.20 | aseigo | pavel_: once compiz is selected there, it starts it when you log in and then it's up to compiz to figure it out frm that point |
| 06:40.46 | pavel_ | aseigo, thx I will give it one more try:) |
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| 06:44.13 | Rasi | aseigo: that means krunner ad |
| 06:44.20 | Rasi | aseigo: that means krunner actually starts everytime now? :) |
| 06:44.37 | aseigo | Rasi: mmm.. yes |
| 06:44.54 | gaten | aseigo: im having trouble detaching the widgets. could you help? |
| 06:45.35 | aseigo | gaten: it's documented on my blog somewhere; in 4.3 we have a gui for it... but yeah .. i unfortunately need to go to bed .. it's nearly 1am and i've had three 2-3am days in a row now :/ |
| 06:45.42 | aseigo | is a bit beyond useless atm i'm afrai |
| 06:45.44 | aseigo | d |
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| 06:46.37 | gaten | aseigo: ok found your blog, ill look. thanks |
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| 06:50.00 | robtone_ | Morning. How do I chang the name of a Desktop Icon?! Specifically I have drag&drop'ped a FTP location to the Desktop, KDE calls it "FTP" - but I'd like to give it a more explanatory identifying and unique name. |
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| 06:50.32 | robtone_ | (KDE4.2) |
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| 06:52.18 | robtone_ | or: where does KDE4 store its Desktop Icon-informations? |
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| 07:05.01 | gautham | I forgot my KWallet Password. What do I do ? |
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| 07:06.09 | aseigo | start over |
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| 07:24.41 | gautham | aseigo: you mean delete old wallet and start filling up a new wallet ? |
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| 07:26.15 | robtone_ | .kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc is the location I was looking for |
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| 07:27.44 | robtone_ | well, I can't change the descriptive symbole name there, either. |
| 07:27.51 | nanothief | gautham: there is no way to recover the password, so that would be the only way |
| 07:28.14 | gautham | What if the wallet deleted is the primary wallet ? |
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| 07:28.27 | gautham | Actually I have only 3 passwords stored there... |
| 07:28.53 | nanothief | well you could just make a new wallet and set it as default |
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| 07:33.46 | aib | How can I call Okular's File -> Export As -> Plain Text from the command line using dcom, or another method? |
| 07:34.04 | aib | Or is Okular using another 3rd party package for that? |
| 07:34.27 | aib | I tried `pdf2ps file.pdf | ps2txt file.pdf` but its nowhere near as good as Okular's.. |
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| 07:35.38 | jjll | sabayon kde channel? or just kde? |
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| 07:50.45 | robtone_ | Solution found: create a link to an URL with dolphin - give it the desired descriptive name, place it in some folder, drag'n'drop that link-file to the destop. |
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| 08:23.34 | o2T7 | Hi, Some of my clients have reported that Kmail, when opened by Kontact, opens itself on an unattached window. They are all (3 people) using kde4. I don't have this problem (I'm not currently using kde4) |
| 08:24.22 | o2T7 | Anyway, I'm testing it on another wm's (i.e. fluxbox), in order to determine whether it is a desktop manager problem |
| 08:24.33 | Kame2 | o2T7: whch kde version? |
| 08:24.39 | Kame2 | +i |
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| 08:26.56 | fabian_ | o2T7 i have the same problem, it happens if i have kontact with kmail running when loging out. if i log in later, kmail will start as an extra app. (kde 4.2.2) |
| 08:27.52 | Kame2 | fabian_: yea, i had the same with older versions. but never with 4.2.2 |
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| 08:29.05 | Kame2 | fabian_: which qt version do you use? i upgraded to 4.5 with kde 4.2.2. maybe it's something related to qt 4.4 |
| 08:30.16 | aseigo | o2T7: ask on kde-pim-users@kde.org |
| 08:30.32 | aseigo | o2T7: the kontact guys are on that list and offer terrific (free :) support for just those kinds of issues |
| 08:30.49 | aseigo | wonders why he is back up again .. stupid broken sleep pattern |
| 08:30.53 | Kame2 | moin aseigo |
| 08:31.39 | aseigo | moin moin :) |
| 08:31.51 | aseigo | goes back to bed for the 3rd time tonight. |
| 08:32.07 | Kame2 | good night and good luck ;) |
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| 08:33.42 | fabian_ | Kmae2: i have qt4.5 installed too |
| 08:33.55 | o2T7 | It happens on mandriva's kde version 4.1.3 and kubuntu's kde version 4.2.2 (backported?) |
| 08:35.51 | Kame2 | thats strange. i am out of ideas |
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| 10:03.13 | tech9iner | hell woe all.. anyone know what the run command would be to call up kmenu editor please.. vs the only way i know via alt menu from panel start button please? |
| 10:03.14 | tech9iner | thanks |
| 10:03.46 | tech9iner | need to track it down and assign keyboard shortcut.. |
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| 10:21.30 | elmargol | I get org.openobex.Error.NotFound :( any ideas? |
| 10:21.39 | elmargol | sounds like a dbus error? |
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| 10:24.10 | drbobb | hello, are there outstanding serious bugs in kopete (kde4.2.2)? Cause I can't get it to connect to any IM service I use |
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| 10:28.34 | tech9iner | ahhh.. finally.. was sooo obtuse too lol @ me me.. kmenuedit.. oi.. |
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| 10:29.30 | jezura | hi, i have an application in ~/my_apps/bin/launcher. is it possible (in 4.2.2) to add an icon for launching this application into the panel? |
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| 10:56.21 | chronos | hello |
| 10:56.57 | chronos | someone experiencied keyboard lock into kde 4.2.2 and sometime after keyboard back to normal? |
| 10:57.13 | chronos | this happens sometimes, not all times |
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| 10:58.06 | chronos | all keyboard chars not work, mouse work, CTRL+ALT+F* keys works and keyboard works on terminal |
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| 11:22.30 | ichbinesderelch | howto tell powerpill to never ever suspend? |
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| 11:24.23 | ichbinesderelch | argh |
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| 11:24.31 | ichbinesderelch | .. |
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| 11:31.27 | freinhard | ichbinesderelch: systemsettings->advanced->power management->profiles |
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| 11:31.55 | ichbinesderelch | freinhard: yeah i disabled all of them, but of the battery is runing low, to 2-3% it suspens anyways |
| 11:32.01 | ichbinesderelch | *if |
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| 11:55.04 | tomcat_berlin | hi! i have one (probably simple) question: I wrote a little kde-prog (in python). it is a kmainwindow. i added a kmenubar, a ktoolbar and a kstatusbar. each of them is shown correctly. but they all are displayed laying over each other. how could i fix that? |
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| 12:24.32 | RG3rY | hi |
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| 12:26.09 | RG3rY | i have an offtopic question.can someone know what "welcomestock" expression mean ? Thanks |
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| 12:33.45 | titou | hi |
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| 12:34.39 | titou | I have a bug with kmail since KDE 4.2 |
| 12:34.47 | titou | my folders are ordered manually |
| 12:35.09 | titou | but now, even if i reorder my folder their location are not saved |
| 12:35.30 | titou | and I lose their location when i restart it |
| 12:35.45 | titou | is it a known bug ? |
| 12:35.58 | titou | does a solution exist? |
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| 12:49.27 | wathek | hello all |
| 12:49.42 | wathek | how can I get the version of my KDE ? I cannot find that in the control center ? |
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| 12:50.51 | szal | it's in about every KDE program in the Help menu |
| 12:51.15 | victim | wathek: open a kde app and look at the help / about screen |
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| 12:52.48 | wathek | szal: ah ok |
| 12:52.48 | wathek | thanx |
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| 13:44.11 | drbobb | hey does anyone know about kopete being broken in 4.2.2? |
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| 13:44.45 | drbobb | i'm wondering whether that's a kde 'feature' or a kubuntu 'feature' |
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| 13:45.30 | fabian_ | drbobb mine works fine (opensuse kde4.2.2) |
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| 13:45.49 | drbobb | fabian_: are you connecting to gtalk? |
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| 13:46.13 | fabian_ | im connecting to jabbat same protokol afaik |
| 13:46.26 | drbobb | yeah jabber |
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| 13:47.00 | dfi | xmpp that is |
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| 13:50.22 | drbobb | ok then i should search kubuntu/debian bug reports i guess |
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| 14:24.24 | Sho_ | rdieter: Will 11 final have NetworkManager 0.7.1? |
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| 14:25.29 | rdieter | Sho_: looks like it (and F-10 too): http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/04/16/you-will-upgrade-to-networkmanager-071/ |
| 14:25.39 | Sho_ | rdieter: *hugs Fedora* |
| 14:26.31 | Jucato | *cough* #fedora *cough* |
| 14:26.33 | Jucato | >:) |
| 14:26.39 | mini-man | how do I completely delete strigi's index? |
| 14:26.54 | mini-man | (real question: where is it located?) |
| 14:27.12 | Jucato | ~/.strigi/ |
| 14:27.34 | mini-man | k |
| 14:27.35 | mini-man | thanks |
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| 14:28.22 | mini-man | uh, that did nothing :\ |
| 14:28.49 | mini-man | er, maybe it's nepomuk's index. lol - it's taking years to delete entries from the db, because I deleted a massive 8 GiB folder.. |
| 14:29.06 | mini-man | it still lists a 1.6 GiB db in the strigi window |
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| 14:31.24 | mini-man | ah, ~/.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk |
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| 14:39.53 | mustu | What is the shorcut key to switch workspace? |
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| 14:40.33 | pumphaus | ctrl+F1 - Fx |
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| 14:45.43 | quassel208_ | http://rafb.net/p/67hlh562.html what am I doing wrong ? |
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| 14:47.11 | pumphaus | quassel208_: well.. just read the message |
| 14:47.19 | pumphaus | you have to create a seperate build dir |
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| 14:48.05 | SatManUK | how does knetattach handle webdav folders i am trying to connect into my uni but its not authenticating? |
| 14:48.14 | SatManUK | i am using opensuse 11.1 / kde 4.2.2 |
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| 14:52.02 | eduhell | greetings, I'm trying to setup dual screens on kubuntu jaunty beta using Randr |
| 14:52.06 | quassel208_ | pumphaus like build dic ? |
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| 14:52.25 | pumphaus | quassel208_: what? |
| 14:52.31 | eduhell | it is working fine but a small part of the notebooks desktop is showing on the lcd monitor |
| 14:52.42 | pumphaus | I mean like: mkdir kdelibs-build; cd kdelibs-build; cmake ../kdelibs |
| 14:53.21 | eduhell | can anyone help me? |
| 14:53.37 | pumphaus | eduhell: #ubuntu |
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| 14:53.43 | pumphaus | or #kubunutu |
| 14:53.50 | pumphaus | #kubuntu I mean |
| 14:53.55 | mustu | Desktop Effects are same in Gnome as in KDE.... are they actually what I heared Compiz thing? or Compiz is somethign else? |
| 14:54.03 | pinotree | kubuntututututu |
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| 14:54.09 | eduhell | ok, thanks |
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| 14:54.11 | Jucato | pinotree: lol :) |
| 14:54.15 | Jucato | mustu: completely different |
| 14:54.17 | pinotree | (SCNR) |
| 14:54.32 | Jucato | clicks on pinotree's Rescan plugins button |
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| 14:55.27 | quassel208_ | pumphaus I keep getting error 17 |
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| 14:55.43 | pumphaus | quassel208_: and what is error 17? |
| 14:55.55 | pumphaus | and when do you get it |
| 14:55.56 | pumphaus | ? |
| 14:56.02 | quassel208_ | CMake Error at cmake/modules/MacroEnsureOutOfSourceBuild.cmake:17 (MESSAGE): |
| 14:56.11 | pumphaus | that's not error 17 |
| 14:56.19 | Jucato | that means "error in line 17 of <file>" |
| 14:56.19 | pumphaus | and it's still the same error as before |
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| 14:56.24 | quassel208_ | wesley@Dexter:~/KDE/kdelibs$ mkdir build; cd build; cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/kde-nightly .. i tried this |
| 14:56.26 | SatManUK | does anybody know how to attatch a webdavfs with knetattach |
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| 15:01.32 | SatManUK | when i connect in with konqueror it asks me to open a document but its the folder it doesn't undestand |
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| 15:02.33 | Jucato | Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cookies -> Delete All button |
| 15:02.49 | esampaio | hello, Im trying to setup dual screens on a notebook+lcd setup using randr on kde 4.2.1, kubuntu jaunty, it is working, but a small part of the notebooks plasma desktop is showing overlaying on the lcd plasma desktop |
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| 15:06.15 | esampaio | anyone? |
| 15:06.15 | termite47384 | is there any way to get okular to display movies embedded in pdfs? |
| 15:06.43 | Jucato | tickles pinotree into attention :) |
| 15:06.46 | pinotree | nope, i didn't implement their reading from pdf documents, yes |
| 15:06.47 | pinotree | *yet |
| 15:07.03 | termite47384 | any idea when you might get round to that? |
| 15:07.10 | pinotree | nope |
| 15:07.30 | pinotree | notes non-embedded movies are supported in okular/kde 4.2 |
| 15:09.07 | termite47384 | pinotree: explain? that would be fine, but I'm not sure how to get that done in latex/beamer |
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| 15:10.12 | pinotree | there are two different types of embedded movies |
| 15:11.23 | pinotree | movies whose content is totally embedded in the document |
| 15:12.13 | pinotree | movies which are references by just filename (and thus they are separate video files, external) |
| 15:12.29 | pinotree | okular supports the latter |
| 15:12.47 | termite47384 | and will they play in okular or will another program open? |
| 15:12.50 | pinotree | the former is partially supported by poppler (the pdf library used by okular), and thus okular cannot used them |
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| 15:13.12 | pinotree | they are played whereever the document says they should be |
| 15:14.09 | termite47384 | do you happen to have an example pdf file? anything I download from http://www.uoregon.edu/~noeckel/PDFmovie.html doesn't work |
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| 15:15.56 | pinotree | let me see |
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| 15:17.35 | pinotree | 216kb, for sure it is external |
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| 15:19.16 | ericP | after an unfortunate upgrade, my Kpowersave menu has "Suspend to Disk" and "Suspend to RAM" greyed out |
| 15:20.05 | tuxick | very unfortunate indeed! |
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| 15:21.00 | ericP | so i came here to enlist folks for a pity party for myself |
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| 15:22.46 | ericP | (i also thought that $(hibernate -F /etc/hibernate/ram.conf) would give me the functionality on the cmdline, but i get "hibernate:Warning: Tuxonice binary signature file not found.\nhibernate: More than one suspend method has been chosen." so i guess i can push on that a bit) |
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| 15:25.06 | ericP | so, anyways, any idea what would grey out suspend options in kpowersave? |
| 15:25.33 | tuxick | usually because it won't work anyway |
| 15:25.40 | termite47384 | works fine here |
| 15:25.41 | tuxick | like missing kernel options or something |
| 15:25.52 | tuxick | i didn't mean to say kpowersave is broken :) |
| 15:25.54 | termite47384 | pinotree: so, got somethign for me? |
| 15:26.05 | termite47384 | kpowersave hasn't existed since kde3 |
| 15:26.07 | tuxick | but it could provide more clue |
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| 15:26.52 | pinotree | termite47384: both of them use a way which part of poppler does not handle yet |
| 15:27.07 | ericP | i can force with hibernate on the command line |
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| 15:27.19 | termite47384 | pinotree: ok. Well, is there anyway I can use beamer/latex to do anything of the sort? |
| 15:27.23 | pinotree | (furthermore, they both rely on the extended javascript api, which okular has a very small support) |
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| 16:15.09 | alegria | hey! in kde4 there is a favorites tab (for example when i use suse....) with some entries... how can i change these manually? Where is the file or in which directory i can found thes favorites? |
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| 16:16.55 | Jucato | alegria: you mean in the K Menu (Main Menu)? just drag and drop to rearrange. right-click to remove |
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| 16:17.30 | alegria | yes i know... |
| 16:17.39 | alegria | but i want to know where the file is? |
| 16:18.26 | alegria | (i use suse studio to build appliances and there are some standard favorites which looke very ugly because not all of them are installed....) |
| 16:18.53 | Jucato | (the only standard favorites are Konqueror, Dolphin, and System Settings) |
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| 16:19.21 | alegria | i dont think so... |
| 16:19.42 | Jucato | well then that's a distro addition |
| 16:19.43 | alegria | my "standard favorites" are kontact, writer, amarok, dolphin and system settings... |
| 16:19.53 | Jucato | I'm only talking about default/vanilla KDE here |
| 16:19.58 | alegria | but how knows the k-menu what to show? |
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| 16:24.21 | Jucato | alegria: can't find any "global" (as in default) file from which it takes the 3 I mentioned. you can try asking in #plasma though |
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| 16:25.07 | alegria | ok thanks... i will ask the susestudio irc... |
| 16:25.08 | White_Pelican | Jucato, are you familiar with this kubuntu 9.04 remix? |
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| 16:25.23 | Jucato | White_Pelican: nope |
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| 16:25.33 | White_Pelican | ok, never mind then :) |
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| 16:37.04 | Elvanor | Is there a way for Konqueror to display the cumulative size of a given directory? |
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| 16:38.17 | Jucato | only through the Properties dialog (right-click or Alt+Enter) |
| 16:38.47 | Elvanor | Jucato: yeah I wanted this for a list |
| 16:38.56 | Elvanor | to know the size of all the folders in a given dir |
| 16:39.11 | Elvanor | Any command line tool that does that then? |
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| 16:40.25 | Jucato | du -s? (or du-sh) |
| 16:40.57 | Elvanor | this gives you a current dir |
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| 16:41.00 | Elvanor | not its subdirs |
| 16:41.31 | Jucato | er? |
| 16:42.18 | Jucato | "du - Summarize disk usage of each FILE, recursively for directories." |
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| 16:43.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. I have KDE4 4.2.2, and the power applet which shows the battery life and all that seems to think I have two batteries. I have only one. |
| 16:44.04 | Digital_Pioneer | This causes it to look pretty screwed up... :\ |
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| 16:47.45 | rdieter | Digital_Pioneer: does the output of : hal-device list only 1 battery ? |
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| 16:51.08 | Digital_Pioneer | rdieter: I only see one. |
| 16:51.23 | rdieter | ok, wierd then. |
| 16:51.27 | Digital_Pioneer | Grepped it for BAT and it only has references to BAT0. |
| 16:51.30 | Digital_Pioneer | Not BAT1 |
| 16:51.46 | rdieter | I saw a case where it mis-id'd a battery in a wireless mouse. :) |
| 16:51.57 | Digital_Pioneer | !!? ROFL |
| 16:53.45 | Digital_Pioneer | So is there any black magic I can pull to make the plasma workspace not corrupt so often? :P |
| 16:54.08 | Digital_Pioneer | That's currently my biggest beef with KDE4... |
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| 17:01.23 | Lord_Deathscythe | is away: My mind is gone from this place... but the rest of me didn't follow |
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| 17:05.48 | Half-Left | Digital_Pioneer: Check your drivers |
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| 17:06.59 | Digital_Pioneer | Half-Left: In what way exactly? :P |
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| 17:10.30 | Half-Left | Digital_Pioneer: What driver do you use? |
| 17:11.31 | Digital_Pioneer | For my battery? I have no idea... :\ |
| 17:11.31 | Half-Left | Corruption is commonly caused by driver bugs |
| 17:11.48 | Digital_Pioneer | Oh, wait, we're talking about graphics now. OK. :P |
| 17:11.49 | Digital_Pioneer | nvidia |
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| 17:12.09 | Half-Left | Proprietary driver? |
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| 17:13.17 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah |
| 17:13.57 | Half-Left | Well what a surprise! |
| 17:14.20 | Half-Left | Try the xorg one or another version |
| 17:14.56 | Digital_Pioneer | This has been happenning through a good many versions I've used.... |
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| 17:15.28 | Digital_Pioneer | And the GOOD driver doesn't support graphics acceleration, so what fun is that?? :P |
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| 17:15.46 | Half-Left | You're not seeing what I'm saying |
| 17:16.04 | Half-Left | You use the xorg one for testing |
| 17:16.38 | Half-Left | If you don't get corruption, you know it's the nvidia driver, nothing KDE can do about it |
| 17:17.24 | Digital_Pioneer | Ahh. |
| 17:17.57 | shze|laptop | I tried to copy/move mails from my old imap account to gmail within kmail, but this sets all dates to the date of moving. how do I get the date right? |
| 17:17.58 | Digital_Pioneer | Well there must be something KDE can do about it (eventually) since this never happened with 'that other' fancy window manager. :P |
| 17:18.00 | Half-Left | File a bug with nvidia and if you still think it's KDE4, file a bug on how to reproduce it and steps |
| 17:19.19 | Half-Left | Saying other window manager don't do it is irrelevant, nvidia driver can have a bug with KDE |
| 17:19.57 | thiago | it can have bugs that KDE triggers |
| 17:20.06 | thiago | but the bug is still there on their code |
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| 17:20.31 | Digital_Pioneer | Fair enough. I wish they would just grow up and open source their driver... :\ |
| 17:21.01 | Digital_Pioneer | They are a hardware company. They make hardware. Not software. So why not let someone make a decent driver? :P </rant> |
| 17:21.08 | mustu | at http://fedorasolved.org/Members/scott_glaser/compiz-fusion ... the required pckgs have gnome in their name.. is there also a kde version of these pckgs? |
| 17:21.23 | Half-Left | Come on, it's not like other OS's don't have such issues |
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| 17:22.08 | Half-Left | Nvidia drivers have issues with Compiz as well, it's not perfect like people make out |
| 17:22.10 | penguin_ | can you help me , i have a problem with sys tray :: |
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| 17:23.10 | Half-Left | mustu: KDE it's own composting window manager called kwin :) |
| 17:24.05 | mustu | Half-Left: i mean pckgs have gnome in their name ... r they only to be installed in gnome? |
| 17:24.11 | penguin_ | anyone to give me an answer? |
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| 17:24.39 | mustu | penguin_: what happend to ur system tray? |
| 17:24.41 | Half-Left | mustu: Compiz has a dep on gnomelibs thats why |
| 17:25.13 | Half-Left | You can use it in KDE if thats what you're asking |
| 17:25.16 | mustu | is it safe to install it on my KDE ? |
| 17:25.24 | mustu | ok |
| 17:25.37 | Digital_Pioneer | penguin_: No one will ever answer if you don't ask your question. |
| 17:25.38 | Half-Left | Sure, if you really need to, but we don't support it |
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| 17:27.20 | penguin_ | digital*: i said , i don't find any icon on my systray !!! |
| 17:27.22 | mustu | from where we can add remove Auto Start applications..? |
| 17:28.08 | Half-Left | KDE4? |
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| 17:28.09 | Digital_Pioneer | penguin_: Ahh, when that happens to me, I restart plasma. `killall plasma && plasma` |
| 17:28.24 | Digital_Pioneer | penguin_: Assuming you use KDE4. Never had it happen on KDE3. |
| 17:28.51 | Half-Left | Thats because KDE4 is much different |
| 17:28.53 | penguin_ | i use KDE4 , i didn't install KDE3 |
| 17:29.34 | penguin_ | i updated all packages to the new KDE4.2.2x |
| 17:29.43 | penguin_ | but the problem persists |
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| 17:30.22 | penguin_ | killall plasma && plasma` : is this a command line ? |
| 17:30.37 | mustu | frm where i can add an application to Autostart? |
| 17:31.24 | penguin_ | mustu : you can use configuration panel of KDE4 |
| 17:31.48 | mustu | penguin_: u mean System Setings? |
| 17:31.55 | penguin_ | yes |
| 17:32.45 | penguin_ | mutsu: you have to choose "advanced" tab |
| 17:32.48 | devilsadvocate | penguin_, silly question maybe, but do you have a systray? |
| 17:33.12 | penguin_ | yes, but with no icons !!! |
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| 17:34.08 | penguin_ | mustu : you will find "Autostarting" ok some thing like this 'cause i use a french desktop :) |
| 17:34.41 | devilsadvocate | Digital_Pioneer, nvidia's binary driver is extremely complex, and contains a lot of IP |
| 17:34.52 | devilsadvocate | they dont do just hardware |
| 17:34.58 | penguin_ | mutsu: click on it and choose "Add a Program or a software " some thing like this !!! :) |
| 17:35.12 | mustu | Can we disbale desktop effect after installing compiz? will it effect? |
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| 17:35.58 | Jucato | mustu: KDE's desktop effects is part of KWin, it's window manager. Compiz is another window manager. you can only have one window manager running at a time |
| 17:36.40 | Digital_Pioneer | devilsadvocate: Clearly, but they are obviously doing a bad enough job making the drivers... Or at least, it would go better if it were opensource. |
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| 17:37.30 | devilsadvocate | Digital_Pioneer, their driver is fundamentally a kernel in itself, with all the bells and whistles |
| 17:37.30 | penguin_ | Digital : killall plasma && plsma , is it a command line ? |
| 17:37.46 | devilsadvocate | penguin_, yeah. you can probably run it from krunner too |
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| 17:38.31 | Digital_Pioneer | penguin_: Yes, but I usually do it from krunner as devilsadvocate says. :) |
| 17:38.50 | Digital_Pioneer | And when it doesn't work the first time, I do it again and it does. :\ |
| 17:38.55 | penguin_ | Digital : i did it but no changes !!! |
| 17:39.14 | Digital_Pioneer | penguin_: Try again. :) |
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| 17:39.38 | Digital_Pioneer | devilsadvocate: So let the people who make the best kernels write it! :P |
| 17:39.59 | penguin_ | the systray doesn't contain any icon !! when i right-click on it i can lunch Kmixer,Klipper but i didn't see it !! |
| 17:40.04 | devilsadvocate | Digital_Pioneer, :) |
| 17:40.28 | devilsadvocate | Digital_Pioneer, releasing that code means releasing some critical ip, including h/w details |
| 17:40.33 | penguin_ | i try it with root ? |
| 17:40.33 | devilsadvocate | so they dont want to do it |
| 17:40.36 | buntfalke | is there a how-to for kmymoney except the help->handbook text? |
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| 17:40.47 | buntfalke | it seems awfully difficult... |
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| 17:41.02 | Digital_Pioneer | devilsadvocate: I realize that, but I say they should get over it. :P |
| 17:41.10 | devilsadvocate | :) |
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| 17:44.32 | buntfalke | And why is the person for incoming payment and outpayment forced to be always the same? |
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| 18:00.45 | Gof | topic: why shouldn't i delete ~/.kde? |
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| 18:08.38 | yetifoot | hi, i got kde 4.2.2 on debian, i had a problem with mouse cursors keep changing theme, i decided to delete all the .kde* stuff, so I could get clean defaults, and now i get a message about my sound card doesn't work, falling back to default, then knotify4 seems to hog the audio so none of my alsa based programs work, searching web doesn't show anything of help, anyone have ideas? |
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| 18:10.10 | rdale | restore your backup of ~/.kde ? |
| 18:10.22 | yetifoot | well, that will then bring back the old problems i deleted it because of |
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| 18:11.15 | yetifoot | i guess changing mouse cursors is better than no sound, but i thought it might just be some simple fix. I can't find a way to turn off all KDE sound system like I could in KDE3 |
| 18:11.29 | rdale | well i would find out which settings affect mouse cursors and look at them |
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| 18:20.12 | Kebianizao | Hello |
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| 18:20.45 | Kebianizao | is it possible to have the bar that's usually on the screen botton on one screen side? (4.2.2) |
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| 18:22.40 | yetifoot | Kebianizao, you see the little button at the far right of the bar? |
| 18:22.49 | Kebianizao | sure |
| 18:23.03 | yetifoot | if you click that you get an option screen edge, drag from that to whateveer side |
| 18:23.33 | Kebianizao | lemm try |
| 18:24.17 | Kebianizao | wow! :D |
| 18:24.24 | Kebianizao | thanks a lot, I missed that :) |
| 18:24.47 | Kebianizao | one more, how could I check the plasmoids that are currently "working"? |
| 18:25.02 | yetifoot | i don't know that one |
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| 18:32.49 | aplyoga | I am using KDE4 on Opensuse, after I upgrade to Kde4 4.2.2, when I hit Alt+F1 to launch the 'Kickoff Application Launcher', the curser does focus on the Search box of the Launcher automatically. My question is how to I set it up so that it will focus to the Launcher automatically? |
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| 18:34.08 | szal | aplyoga: where's the problem? |
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| 18:35.45 | aplyoga | szal: The problem is I have to click on the search box or click anywhere on the menu. |
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| 18:36.23 | szal | aplyoga: if it focuses on the search box, you don't have to click |
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| 18:36.45 | szal | you can type right away or use the cursor keys to navigate the menu |
| 18:36.56 | aplyoga | szal: yes. |
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| 18:37.09 | szal | so, again, what's the problem? |
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| 18:38.01 | ericP | i just landed in konsole 2.2.2, and i don't know how to disable xon/xoff (^s ^q) |
| 18:38.13 | aplyoga | If it focuse on the search box I can type right away or use the cursor key navigate the menu |
| 18:38.15 | szal | define 'konsole 2.2.2' |
| 18:38.17 | ericP | didn't use to be a prob -- could run emacs in a remote term with no prob |
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| 18:39.39 | aplyoga | But now it's not focus on the search box I had to click first, before I could use the key to navigate the menu, that's the problem. |
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| 18:40.53 | aplyoga | The probem is that I cannot type right away, and I cannot use the cursor keys to navigate the menu, I had to click first. |
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| 18:41.21 | aplyoga | I want to omit the first click, like it used to be, before I upgrade to kde 4.2.2 |
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| 18:46.14 | pothibo | Hi, I was wondering, is there a media player being developped on kde4 beside kaffeine? |
| 18:46.43 | outlaw84 | So where are the settings for kopete hidden in kde4? find /home/mihaly/ -name '%kopete%' gav me nothing :S |
| 18:46.56 | cb400f | kmplayer? juk? kplayer? dragonplayer? |
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| 18:47.27 | Half-Left | Juk doesn't play videos |
| 18:47.32 | sickill | guys, can someone tell me how can I detect http 500 error when making request with KIO::storedGet ? job.error() returns no error unfortunatelly :/ |
| 18:47.54 | cb400f | but it plays "media" ;-) |
| 18:48.14 | Half-Left | Yer, will I would class media as music and videos :) |
| 18:48.34 | Half-Left | is doomed to typo today |
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| 18:48.56 | pothibo | dragonplayer still active? haven't heard of it in a long time |
| 18:50.05 | Half-Left | it's part of KDE4.x |
| 18:50.11 | Kebianizao | sickill: are you programming anything? |
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| 18:50.23 | Kebianizao | pothibo: I'd say so |
| 18:50.27 | sickill | Kebianizao: yes, of course, I'm working on plasmoid :) |
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| 18:50.43 | Kebianizao | sickill: then you'd probably want to go to #kde-devel |
| 18:51.09 | sickill | Kebianizao: aaa, didn't know that there is dedicated channel for this, thx! |
| 18:51.59 | pothibo | ok, because well.. I wanted to get into development of a video player, wanted to either start from scratch or join a project.. |
| 18:52.43 | Kebianizao | pothibo: kaffeine has been great since the beggining. |
| 18:52.53 | Kebianizao | pothibo: what are your preferences? |
| 18:53.02 | Half-Left | Very crashy in my view |
| 18:53.40 | pothibo | Half-Left: yeah me too, hard time when composite is on |
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| 18:54.05 | pothibo | Kebianizao: well I was thinking to start building a lightweight video player with phonon as the backend |
| 18:54.15 | Half-Left | When I used to use it in KDE3 is was pretty unstable |
| 18:54.24 | Half-Left | it* |
| 18:54.27 | Kebianizao | pothibo: then why you don't join the dragonplayer development? |
| 18:54.54 | Kebianizao | Half-Left: what distro? |
| 18:54.57 | pothibo | Kebianizao: yeah, well, thhat's why I was asking if dragonplayer was still alive, since their website has been bought by some casino company, I thought it was dead |
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| 18:55.40 | ericP | re earlier xo{n,ff} question: prob was with a screen, not my konsole |
| 18:55.46 | Half-Left | Kebianizao: That was years ago |
| 18:55.49 | ericP | (as in /usr/bin/screen , not a monitor) |
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| 18:58.19 | cb400f | pothibo: I believe a videoplaying plasmoid exists for 4.3 |
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| 18:58.34 | Kebianizao | pothibo: if you are interested in contributing just speak up on #kde-devel, there they can guide you |
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| 18:58.50 | pothibo | ty |
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| 19:01.01 | Kebianizao | could anyone explain me the meaning of the icons on the right of each plasma line in the add plasmoid dialog? |
| 19:02.30 | linuxien-libre | you talk about the add plasmoid in the top of desktop? |
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| 19:02.58 | Kebianizao | linuxien-libre: yep |
| 19:03.21 | Kebianizao | it's the same dialog I can get from the top right desktop icon menu |
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| 19:03.58 | Half-Left | Favorites, Widgets used before, Information |
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| 19:05.08 | Kebianizao | sometimes I get a small rectangle just on the right of the plasmoid name, at the right of the yellow star |
| 19:05.12 | Kebianizao | what's that? |
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| 19:06.16 | linuxien-libre | it allow you to add another plasmoid , to change workspace ,to lock plasmoids,and to configure desktop |
| 19:06.27 | Sho_ | Kebianizao: do you mean left of the yellow star? |
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| 19:07.35 | Half-Left | Kebianizao: The red one means currently running |
| 19:08.04 | Sho_ | Half-Left: If you mean the black one to the left of the yellow star, that's an hourglass and meant to indicate that you've previously used that plasmoid |
| 19:08.16 | Sho_ | (why it's a hourglass probably only $deity and aaron know) |
| 19:08.43 | Kebianizao | Sho_: yep, left of yellow star |
| 19:08.47 | Sho_ | looks at aseigo |
| 19:08.51 | miasma | i wonder if anyone has considered automatic crash reporting. e.g. i got a bit frustated today when the newest stable konqueror crashed like 70 times |
| 19:09.10 | Kebianizao | Sho_: looks reasonable |
| 19:09.13 | Kebianizao | thanks :) |
| 19:09.28 | Kebianizao | miasma: good idea :) |
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| 19:09.36 | miasma | the pages on the konqueror session seem to accumulate. it's impossible to recover individuals urls without unplugging the network cable |
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| 19:10.18 | miasma | previously it crashed and i could import all crashed pages with the bookmarks tool. now the session management messes this up |
| 19:10.23 | Half-Left | hehe |
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| 19:11.32 | aseigo | Sho_: that dialog is shit and being rewritten in soc anyways |
| 19:12.07 | Sho_ | aseigo: so the Mysterious Plasma Hourglass becomes another anecdote of history! ;) |
| 19:12.39 | Kebianizao | I missed some floating tips on that |
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| 19:14.08 | dvl | More hotkey madness. The meta key is working in strange ways. If I try to assign META-1 to desktop, I get 1, not META-1. As I assign the key, I see META appear, then when I press 1, META disappears. Fun fun fun. |
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| 19:17.01 | aseigo | Sho_: pretty much :) |
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| 19:21.22 | mountainjew | Can anybody tell me the name of the notifier in kde 4 that pops up when files etc are being transferred? Because mine stopped working |
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| 19:21.57 | Sho_ | aseigo: Zarin has suggested adding the duration to the slide atom even if the effect doesn't immediately implement it, so I can punt the bug reports about the animation length setting in Yakuake being ignored to kwin ;-) |
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| 19:23.03 | Sho_ | aseigo: the problem (and what stumped me in writing the effect since it made it require more work/time than expected) is that kwin's motion manager doesn't really support time-based animations right now; the approach it takes makes duration hard to predict |
| 19:23.30 | Sho_ | aseigo: so it's either extensing motion manager (complex) or using a classic timeline-based transformation for the individual effect (unclean) |
| 19:23.41 | Sho_ | ... and this should be so in #kde-devel *sigh* |
| 19:24.54 | Sho_ | s/extensing/extending/ |
| 19:25.24 | Half-Left | aseigo: Shit eh, I could have designed you a better one :p |
| 19:26.18 | Half-Left | Oh wait, I did, muuuhahahaha |
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| 19:27.46 | aseigo | Sho_: it can be an optional part of the plugin, sure |
| 19:28.00 | aseigo | Sho_: (the timeout) |
| 19:28.32 | aseigo | Sho_: does the motion manager already support chopping bits of windows off as it moves them? |
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| 19:28.39 | aseigo | Sho_: if not, what's to be gained by putting it in the motion manager? |
| 19:28.58 | Half-Left | Sho_: Yer, thats why I said, "Widgets used before", though it says "Widgets I have used before" |
| 19:29.07 | Sho_ | aseigo: the chopping needs to be done with a ClipSomethingOrOther, another KWin convenience thingie |
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| 19:30.25 | Sho_ | aseigo: Well, using the motion manager simplifies/shortens the code, other than that's its reason for existence is mostly to manage transitions between animations elegantly though. using the motion manager isn't a hard requirement for a simple side-from-screenedge, that can certainly be done with a simple timeline as well |
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| 19:31.16 | aseigo | Sho_: yeah, i think simple is fine in this case... it shouldn't be kept to just screen edges though imho.. |
| 19:31.17 | Sho_ | s/side/slide/ |
| 19:31.20 | aseigo | thinks |
| 19:32.06 | aseigo | what would be Cool(tm) is to be able to define a point on screen _or_ a window (so that as the window moves the anim can properly follow it) |
| 19:32.07 | Sho_ | aseigo: well, Zarin and I were originally planning an enum with the four edges and four corners. a x/y makes the app-side code a bit more complex since the app then needs to actually calculate that first itself |
| 19:32.24 | aseigo | wel, that would be completely useless for me :) |
| 19:32.35 | Sho_ | aseigo: you mean so that it can slide in concert with other sliding extenders? |
| 19:32.44 | NSaibot | please, could someone tell me where this (tm) stuff comes from? |
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| 19:33.03 | aseigo | NSaibot: The Trademark Council of Canada(tm) |
| 19:33.20 | NSaibot | well i know what tm means :P |
| 19:33.34 | Sho_ | aseigo: well, I'm not opposed to doing a x/y here, I realize the extender sliding won't work with the original enum plan ;) |
| 19:34.30 | aseigo | NSaibot: in coordination with the Seigonian Institute Of Annoying Habits(tm) |
| 19:34.39 | Sho_ | aseigo: actually I suppose x/y might even be better for yakuake after all ... if you have top panel, Yakuake currently positions itself to open from below that strut, so if the origin/destination is a x/y, I can actually make it slide "into" the panel rather than into the screen edge |
| 19:34.42 | NSaibot | ah, got it :) |
| 19:35.09 | aseigo | hm. Seigonian Institute of God-awful Habits? s.i.g.h.? |
| 19:35.24 | NSaibot | yeah, better |
| 19:35.24 | aseigo | or rather.. S.I.G.H.(tm) ;) |
| 19:35.29 | NSaibot | geez |
| 19:35.46 | Sho_ | aseigo: so it seems we're on the same page with regard to using a coordinate for the origin/destination, using a timeline rather than the motion manager, and optionally supporting an animation length in miliseconds |
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| 19:36.15 | aseigo | Sho_: Zarin was talking about just destination + direction |
| 19:36.46 | aseigo | e.g. "end up at $pos, slide in the $compassoint direction" |
| 19:36.52 | Sho_ | aseigo: yes, I meant a single coordinate for target/destination |
| 19:36.56 | aseigo | ah, ok :) |
| 19:36.59 | aseigo | cool |
| 19:37.20 | Sho_ | aseigo: actually for my use case, the direction bit is even unnecessary. I mean, with yakuake it comes down to "slide out on hide()" and "slide in on show()" |
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| 19:37.38 | Sho_ | aseigo: which in kwin effect hooks correspond to something like windowAdded() |
| 19:37.54 | Sho_ | aseigo: so the effect can figure out the direction based on whether the window is being shown or hidden, basically |
| 19:38.01 | aseigo | thinks |
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| 19:38.51 | aseigo | Sho_: so now... which of us is going to write this thing? :) |
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| 19:40.00 | Sho_ | aseigo: good question :). I'm definitely a newbie at effects writing. what had stumped me so far was the motion manager problem. when I just use a timeline, though, I have it conceptually figured out. but I'm unsure about when I can get around to doing it |
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| 19:40.59 | Sho_ | aseigo: so the problem is that we might be running out of time on 4.3 if we want to convert plasma panels and extenders to use it and make sure it's reliable for release |
| 19:41.14 | Sho_ | aseigo: iow, I definitely won't have my ego bruised if you decide to go ahead and do it |
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| 19:42.51 | aseigo | converting our stuff is an afternoon at wrst |
| 19:42.57 | aseigo | but yeah.. good to know |
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| 19:48.19 | Sho_ | aseigo: having this will a nice sort of "works best on kde" incentive for the yakuake eyecandy crowd, though ;). at least until we can get some standardization happening ... when I said "I wish there was a standard to request transitions from the compositor" in #kwin a year ago I got a "will never happen", but this seems too obvious to not have it eventually be implemented in all common WMs |
| 19:48.48 | aseigo | Sho_: innevitable imho |
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| 19:54.46 | cb400f | rdieter: I was wondering, when (roughly) would be the deadline to translate kpackagekit (trunk/playground-sysadmin) for having the translations included in F11? |
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| 19:56.57 | lucasagomes | hey u all in gnome i can use gnome-session-save to logout of a session using command line.... how can i do the same in kde? |
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| 20:03.12 | Arminius | hello |
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| 20:06.05 | Arminius | ok then... |
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| 20:06.19 | Arminius | hoping to describe the problem correctly |
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| 20:06.44 | Arminius | I got some trouble with KWin and Compiz as window managers |
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| 20:07.13 | Arminius | I set KWin as default manager, but at restart, Compiz is always set back as default window manager, and I have no idea why |
| 20:07.33 | Arminius | and it's causing me some trouble (no top bar on all windows) |
| 20:07.37 | Arminius | anyone an idea? |
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| 20:08.21 | PhilRod | Arminius and I were trying to fix this yesterday, and got as far as finding out that his KDEWM is getting pointed at compiz, but I don't know where it could be getting set - there's nothing in ~/.kde/env |
| 20:08.31 | PhilRod | (was that correct?) |
| 20:08.47 | Arminius | I think so! |
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| 20:09.14 | Arminius | there is just gtk-qt-engine.rc.sh in that folder |
| 20:09.29 | Arminius | but I added kwin.sh |
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| 20:09.48 | Arminius | but that didn't help... |
| 20:11.26 | Arminius | I thinks that sums it up... |
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| 20:14.36 | Arminius | wait a minute I just read the chat topic, KDE 4.2.2 is out, PhilRod do you think updating might fix the problem? (or make it worse?) |
| 20:15.46 | PhilRod | Arminius: My guess is that the problem is some old config file somewhere, so updating probably wouldn't help. |
| 20:15.55 | Arminius | ok |
| 20:17.20 | PhilRod | oh, did we try searching ~/.kde for the string "KDEWM"? That might turn up something useful |
| 20:17.38 | Arminius | I don't think if I remember correctly..; |
| 20:17.56 | Arminius | or maybe we did :s don't remember sorry :( |
| 20:18.03 | Arminius | how is the command again? |
| 20:18.05 | PhilRod | shouldn't take too long - worth a try again |
| 20:18.08 | PhilRod | cd ~/.kde |
| 20:18.08 | Rasi | anyone knows how to make a screenshot of kdm? |
| 20:18.15 | PhilRod | grep -ir kdewm * |
| 20:18.20 | PhilRod | Arminius: those two lines |
| 20:18.30 | Arminius | ok thanks :) |
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| 20:19.03 | Arminius | grep: Autostart/update-notifier: No such file or directory |
| 20:19.17 | Arminius | is that normal? :o |
| 20:19.28 | Arminius | oh wait it's continuing... |
| 20:19.43 | Arminius | ah yes we had done that |
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| 20:20.00 | Arminius | I remember now ;) with some parts of the chat log in it |
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| 20:22.03 | Arminius | I got the suggestion on kde-cafe to go to #kwin |
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| 20:24.03 | lucasagomes | hey u all in gnome i can use gnome-session-save to logout of a session using command line.... how can i do the same in kde? |
| 20:24.42 | blauzahl | you have to do it via command line? |
| 20:24.45 | PhilRod | Arminius: definitely worth a try |
| 20:24.51 | blauzahl | i mean, you want to do it in command line? |
| 20:24.55 | lucasagomes | yea via command line :( |
| 20:25.03 | PhilRod | probably with qdbus |
| 20:25.14 | PhilRod | or by talking to kdm on a pipe. Let me find the link |
| 20:25.19 | blauzahl | PhilRod: definitely worth a try. :) |
| 20:25.22 | lucasagomes | right lemme google about |
| 20:25.33 | Arminius | ok |
| 20:26.56 | PhilRod | well, the kdm option is documented: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/advanced-topics.html#command-sockets |
| 20:27.04 | PhilRod | although I don't think it quite does what you want |
| 20:28.03 | lucasagomes | right done man thank u so much |
| 20:28.08 | lucasagomes | im going google a bit |
| 20:28.24 | PhilRod | ok, in qdbusviewer I can see that org.kde.KSMServerInterface has a "logout" method, which is probably what you want, but I'm not great on dbus, so not entirely sure how to call it from the command line with qdbus |
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| 20:29.09 | lucasagomes | right :) |
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| 20:31.59 | PhilRod | lucasagomes: http://usrlocalbin.blogspot.com/2008/04/qdbus-tutorial-part-one.html appears to explain it all |
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| 20:33.45 | lucasagomes | wow it will be usefullyyy |
| 20:33.49 | lucasagomes | ! |
| 20:33.50 | lucasagomes | great |
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| 20:34.46 | PhilRod | you'll have to work out what the three arguments are - you might have to grep some source code for that. Good luck, I'm off to watch tv for a bit |
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| 20:45.44 | trumee | guys i am trying to build qt-3.3.8b on my 64 bit box, but i am getting the following error |
| 20:45.53 | trumee | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.29 | trumee | why does the compiler think that libXext.so is incompatible |
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| 20:48.38 | trumee | anybody knows why this error is coming up |
| 20:48.49 | trumee | is there a mixing up of 32 bit and 64 bit? |
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| 20:49.39 | psycoborg | help. |
| 20:49.45 | psycoborg | i need my wifi to work |
| 20:49.52 | psycoborg | can someone help me install it? |
| 20:49.57 | psycoborg | it works under knome. |
| 20:50.02 | psycoborg | but not in kde |
| 20:50.18 | psycoborg | and kde is 10000% better than knome. |
| 20:50.19 | psycoborg | :P |
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| 20:50.40 | Fri13 | Hi, what is the KickOff menu name/ID how I could set KWin settings on it? I can not get shortcut key to it so I would get it open when using KWin profile detection-tool. |
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| 20:56.29 | devilsadvocate | psycoborg, knome? |
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| 20:57.56 | psycoborg | i waqs using knome desktop and my wifi worked on that. |
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| 20:58.15 | psycoborg | but it kept crashing my system when i was in the web brower. |
| 20:58.19 | devilsadvocate | what is knome? :P |
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| 20:58.33 | psycoborg | so i reinstalled fedora 10 this time with kde. |
| 20:58.38 | psycoborg | alot nicer |
| 20:58.49 | psycoborg | eerrr. |
| 20:58.54 | psycoborg | i mean gnome. |
| 20:58.56 | psycoborg | :P |
| 20:58.58 | psycoborg | sorry. |
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| 20:59.32 | psycoborg | the nic card works cause im connected to it via cable now. |
| 20:59.37 | devilsadvocate | does your wifi have encryption/ wep/ anything wierd |
| 20:59.48 | psycoborg | i was wondering if kde supports wifi? |
| 20:59.58 | psycoborg | it has wep. |
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| 21:00.13 | psycoborg | but i cant find where to connect. |
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| 21:00.27 | devilsadvocate | do you see a green globe in the systray? |
| 21:00.35 | psycoborg | in gnome it was at the top of the screen. |
| 21:00.41 | psycoborg | no. |
| 21:00.53 | devilsadvocate | hm |
| 21:00.57 | psycoborg | is there something i need to install? |
| 21:01.04 | devilsadvocate | im not very familiar with fedora |
| 21:01.07 | devilsadvocate | you may need to |
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| 21:01.18 | devilsadvocate | i use knetworkmanager |
| 21:01.19 | psycoborg | ok. |
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| 21:01.33 | psycoborg | this is where is use the blank stare method. |
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| 21:01.56 | psycoborg | where would i go to install the drivers? or application. |
| 21:02.01 | devilsadvocate | psycoborg, its a kde3 app, but it gets the job done until 4.3 comes out |
| 21:02.18 | psycoborg | ok. |
| 21:02.31 | psycoborg | i love this kde :) |
| 21:02.36 | devilsadvocate | you'll probably have a add new software thing or something |
| 21:02.43 | devilsadvocate | on the command line its yum |
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| 21:02.52 | psycoborg | should i look it up on google? or is it in the install cd? |
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| 21:04.20 | psycoborg | very sweet :) |
| 21:04.31 | psycoborg | im glad i left wincrap. |
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| 21:05.37 | psycoborg | oh i need to compile it? |
| 21:06.08 | devilsadvocate | psycoborg, you dont need to compile it |
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| 21:06.32 | psycoborg | hmm. |
| 21:06.41 | psycoborg | let me look a bit harder then :) |
| 21:06.49 | psycoborg | i found its source code. |
| 21:06.49 | devilsadvocate | psycoborg, google for it. if it were *buntu or debian i could walk you through it |
| 21:06.50 | shevy | there is wincrap and then there is lincrap as well |
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| 21:07.03 | devilsadvocate | im sure fedora has a bunch of graphical package installers |
| 21:07.12 | psycoborg | nit really. |
| 21:07.15 | psycoborg | i installed it. |
| 21:07.15 | shevy | so if software works on both, it is usually a sign that the guys who write that software invested some work ;) |
| 21:07.24 | psycoborg | but can boot to a prompt. |
| 21:07.26 | psycoborg | :) |
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| 21:08.08 | psycoborg | i found it. |
| 21:08.13 | psycoborg | im d/ling it now . |
| 21:08.25 | psycoborg | if i cant install it, i will see if i can find help :) |
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| 21:09.22 | blauzahl | psycoborg: if it works under gnome, then you know that your kernel supports it. so you shoudl be able to get it to work under kde. if you change distros, that might change, depending on what card it is (your kernel might change) |
| 21:09.48 | blauzahl | if nothing else, you can set it up manually. :D |
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| 21:11.51 | psycoborg | ack |
| 21:12.02 | psycoborg | the d/l was not signed. |
| 21:12.13 | psycoborg | how do i get around this? |
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| 21:12.35 | psycoborg | this is the error i got |
| 21:12.40 | psycoborg | The package signature was missing and this package is untrusted. |
| 21:12.41 | psycoborg | This package was not signed with a GPG key when created. |
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| 21:13.19 | devilsadvocate | psycoborg, if it gives you an option to continue anyway, continue |
| 21:13.33 | devilsadvocate | where are you getting the package from though? |
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| 21:14.26 | psycoborg | im getting it from here: |
| 21:14.28 | psycoborg | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=92468 |
| 21:14.45 | psycoborg | is there another place? |
| 21:15.27 | psycoborg | when it starts to install it says an error occured. and aborts the install. |
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| 21:16.53 | psycoborg | i downloaded this one |
| 21:16.54 | psycoborg | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=92468 |
| 21:17.04 | psycoborg | wait. |
| 21:17.21 | psycoborg | this oone |
| 21:17.22 | psycoborg | knetworkmanager-0.7-0.8.20080926svn.fc10.i386.rpm |
| 21:17.30 | psycoborg | is this the worng file? |
| 21:17.47 | psycoborg | i have a list of different files. |
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| 21:21.50 | psycoborg | what version should i d/l |
| 21:22.14 | psycoborg | 0.7.0.7 or .8 |
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| 21:25.29 | psycoborg | bleh. |
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| 21:25.32 | psycoborg | same error. |
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| 21:55.21 | Kebianizao | is it possible to show just apps per desktop on taskbar (4.2.2)? as opposed to all apps on taskbar |
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| 21:57.18 | PhilRod | Kebianizao: find a free area of taskbar, right-click -> taskbar settings |
| 21:57.31 | PhilRod | er, it's "task manager settings" |
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| 21:59.09 | Kebianizao | PhilRod: got it, thanks :) |
| 21:59.29 | PhilRod | cool :-) |
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| 22:02.19 | Kebianizao | now I have a sidebar where I have the system tray, there's plenty of space and I want the tray icons to be on the botton of the tray, like it was on kde3, is this possible? |
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| 22:04.20 | Half-Left | Kebianizao: Sounds like you may need a spacer, it's not officically in 4.2 but you can get one |
| 22:04.35 | Kebianizao | Half-Left: how? |
| 22:05.16 | Half-Left | How what? |
| 22:06.02 | Kebianizao | how can I get a spacer? |
| 22:06.15 | Half-Left | from kde-look.org |
| 22:06.29 | chronos | and a working rss now ? |
| 22:07.36 | Half-Left | Working? |
| 22:07.43 | Kebianizao | Half-Left: I'll see, thanks |
| 22:08.38 | Half-Left | Kebianizao: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Panel+Spacer?content=89304 |
| 22:08.50 | Kebianizao | thanks a lot :) |
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| 22:09.23 | chronossc | rss now not works with feeds like kde apps, etc |
| 22:09.50 | Half-Left | You mean the RSSNow one? |
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| 22:14.41 | desja004 | i am running debian kde 3 and i have installed okular and i'd like to make okular's menu fonts align with my kde 3 apps. I tried qtconfig-qt4 but that didn't seem to do anything to the fonts. I was curious if htere was a way to do this from kcontrol, a qt configuration app, or konsole? I don't have systemsettings installed as i'm on kde 3 not 4 |
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| 22:23.03 | desja004 | thoughts? |
| 22:24.07 | Kebianizao | where is playground in svn? |
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| 22:26.23 | Half-Left | in /trunk |
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| 22:27.05 | Kebianizao | thanks |
| 22:27.26 | Kebianizao | how could I change konqueror view to kdesvn svn://? |
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| 22:31.07 | Half-Left | Damn, Audex should be considered for inclusion in KDE4.x |
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| 22:32.30 | szal | is there a way to configure the Xine backend for Phonon? |
| 22:33.11 | desja004 | fyi ... i just edited ~.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals and copied my font stuff from ~.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 22:33.19 | desja004 | in case anyone is curious or asks later |
| 22:33.34 | Half-Left | What do you want to configure, at the moment it's limited |
| 22:34.03 | desja004 | Half-Left: me? |
| 22:34.07 | desja004 | oh nevermind soory |
| 22:34.08 | Half-Left | Nope |
| 22:34.21 | Half-Left | szal: ^ |
| 22:34.53 | psycoborg | how can i enable wifi under kde? |
| 22:35.08 | psycoborg | the nic card works fine. |
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| 22:36.30 | Half-Left | Knetwork manager |
| 22:37.11 | psycoborg | which version should i d/l and install? |
| 22:37.41 | psycoborg | or better yet, any links? i can go to? to get it. |
| 22:37.46 | Half-Left | KDE3 one for now, unless you feel brave and get the KDE4 one from playground |
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| 22:38.40 | psycoborg | aah. im using kde 4.1 |
| 22:38.50 | szal | Half-Left: it's ok, I was thinking on the wrong track ^^ |
| 22:38.52 | psycoborg | where do i get the one for kde 3? |
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| 22:39.02 | Kebianizao | is it possible to place a plasma bar on the right side of the screen, I'm following the same procedure to place it on the left, but now I can't |
| 22:39.30 | Half-Left | psycoborg: Your distro may have it |
| 22:40.06 | Half-Left | Kebianizao: You can place them where you want and how many you want |
| 22:40.20 | Kebianizao | retries |
| 22:40.26 | Half-Left | Well, around the screen anyway |
| 22:40.34 | psycoborg | hmm. |
| 22:40.37 | Half-Left | Two side by side ect... |
| 22:40.41 | psycoborg | interedting. |
| 22:40.43 | psycoborg | ok. |
| 22:40.53 | psycoborg | i will wait till my updates are done then. |
| 22:41.43 | Kebianizao | Half-Left: how, I was pulling the global plasma button :) |
| 22:42.25 | Half-Left | Right click, Add Panel, move and resize it |
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| 22:43.03 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 22:46.20 | Kebianizao | yes, but I was dragging and somehow the general plasma thingy got involved (don't know the official button name) |
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| 22:50.49 | Kebianizao | is it possible to select mountpoints/partitions manually from the hard disk usage plasmoid? |
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| 23:29.30 | plutonian | I disabled it somehow but I don't remember what I did |
| 23:29.37 | plutonian | now I can't seem to get it to reappear |
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| 23:32.37 | Half-Left | Usually you just leave it open on logout |
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