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| 00:02.57 | InquisitorLoc | kde 4.2 any one able to view video from hulu.com? |
| 00:03.16 | drantin | in konqueror, or any browser? |
| 00:03.26 | InquisitorLoc | Konqueror |
| 00:03.49 | InquisitorLoc | i can view flash video from just about any other site just not j |
| 00:03.53 | InquisitorLoc | hulu |
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| 00:26.31 | Alumin | Sorry for the silly question, but I can't seem to find this specific nugget of information anywhere on the tubes; I'm about to make the jump from Gutsy (KDE 3.x) to Jaunty (KDE 4.x) and there's one very specific feature I'm curious about...I guess this would be a KWin feature |
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| 00:26.59 | Alumin | is it possible to configure the window manager such that scrolling the mouse wheel on the window decoration cycles through levels of transparency? |
| 00:27.47 | Alumin | if it matters, I'm specifically interested in "real" transparency, not pseudo "show the root window image" transparency |
| 00:28.40 | pinotree | it should be doable with desktop effects active (that enable transparency and the like), and a combination like Alt+wheelscroll |
| 00:29.04 | pinotree | don't remember precisely though, and not be able to verify live right now |
| 00:29.12 | Jucato | actually that's the default if desktop effects are enabled |
| 00:29.21 | Jucato | (scroll on titlebar to change opacity) |
| 00:29.23 | Alumin | word :) |
| 00:30.11 | Alumin | I know I'm like, how many years late with this upgrade hehe |
| 00:30.13 | Jucato | if not, it can be set in System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Titlebar Actions tab -> Titlebar wheel event |
| 00:30.31 | Alumin | I have friends who don't even use KDE that are starting to give me grief about still being on 3.x :) |
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| 00:58.56 | GerbilSoft | does anyone know how to get rid of this stupid "HTTP Cache Cleaner" notification |
| 00:59.00 | GerbilSoft | (running kde-4.2.2) |
| 00:59.13 | GerbilSoft | it just randomly showed up and has a useless taskbar entry and added a bouncing icon to the cursor |
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| 01:00.45 | GerbilSoft | never mind, got rid of it - restarted plasma and ctrl-alt-esc'd the bouncing cursor |
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| 02:11.59 | shepherd | Are there any alternatives to kicker / kickoff ( not including lacelot ) |
| 02:12.06 | shepherd | lancelot * |
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| 02:13.24 | Jucato | shepherd: Raptor is still in development afaik. you can try checking in kde-apps.org if there are any |
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| 02:15.24 | drantin | as plasmoids, don't they go on kde-look.org ? |
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| 02:15.59 | Jucato | could be :) |
| 02:16.19 | shepherd | Yea but.. that's a lot to look through!! ^^ |
| 02:16.32 | shepherd | And I always end up with 4563546 tabs in my browser that are other interesting plasmoids |
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| 02:16.39 | Jucato | "Search"? |
| 02:16.42 | shepherd | But not what I went to initially look for.. so I thought I'd ask hehe |
| 02:16.58 | shepherd | Hmm, search function! good idea *lightbulb* |
| 02:19.24 | drantin | I see Daisy and Klicker, but they both sit on the desktop... |
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| 02:45.52 | jmardonesk | hi all, i just want to make an easy aplication that letme choose a few options for my script, i look kdialog, but i need one screen to make all changes, but kdialog its only one function at time, its possible to make a wrapper of kdialog comboboxes and checkbox in just one screen? |
| 02:46.34 | Jucato | try taking a look at kommander |
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| 02:55.32 | Lektron | debian, kde 4.2.2. okular prints OO.o docs, but okular will not print PDFs. What do I need to do to enable it? |
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| 02:58.19 | Adl3r | poppler, ghostscript... |
| 02:58.26 | Adl3r | poppler-qt |
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| 03:05.34 | Lektron | Adl3r: thanks. "libpoppler4" and "libpoppler-qt4-3" and "ghostscript" are already installed |
| 03:06.08 | erik-k | Has anyone gotten hell trying to install qt 4.5? |
| 03:06.57 | jmardonesk | Jucato, is necesary to install kommander to launch the generated files with kommander? |
| 03:07.36 | Jucato | jmardonesk: that I'm not sure. but kdialog really can't be used for anything more complex than simple dialogs |
| 03:08.27 | jmardonesk | make a screen with a combobox and a checkbox in one screen its complex? |
| 03:08.55 | jmardonesk | whith kdialog i can do that? |
| 03:08.58 | Jucato | jmardonesk: it combines 2 kinds of widgets, so yes. |
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| 03:09.12 | Jucato | (2 kinds of widgets aside from OK/Cancel/whatever) |
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| 03:10.06 | jmardonesk | and other options, like xdialog and zenity? |
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| 03:11.06 | Jucato | afaik, those don't do that as well. in any case, kdialog wasn't really created for that purpose. just simple "one shot" dialogs (you can tie them together as a series of dialgos, but that's it) |
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| 03:14.50 | jmardonesk | ok, thanks for the help XD |
| 03:16.20 | Jucato | jmardonesk: if you can do Python, you can use Qt Designer to make the dialogs... |
| 03:18.31 | jmardonesk | Jucato, i will, thans again |
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| 03:47.02 | JukeBoxHero | is anybody here? |
| 03:47.13 | drantin | sorry, not me |
| 03:47.16 | JukeBoxHero | who use konversation.. |
| 03:47.37 | drantin | is using irssi |
| 03:47.43 | JukeBoxHero | ohk |
| 03:47.58 | drantin | but I've used konvi before, what's up? |
| 03:48.13 | JukeBoxHero | ever used the bookmark feature? |
| 03:48.15 | drantin | ask the question, if someone knows, they're more likely to answer than to promise an answer they might not know |
| 03:49.34 | JukeBoxHero | when i bookmark a channel having ## , it gets messed up, as in ##xyz -> becomes #25%xyz |
| 03:51.13 | drantin | also, there's sometimes people in #konversation too, although I think it was pretty much dead last time I was there |
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| 03:53.29 | qiyong | in kde4, i lost my task bar et al, how to lauch them up? |
| 03:53.29 | qiyong | panel etc |
| 03:53.32 | JukeBoxHero | see, all are idling :P |
| 03:53.33 | qiyong | what's their executables? |
| 03:54.36 | devilsadvocate | qiyong, is plasma still running? |
| 03:54.56 | Jucato | qiyong: "plasma", but that also includes the desktop. so if you're seeing the wallpaper properly, then it's not because of the executable. |
| 03:55.00 | erik-k | is busy trying to manually install qt-4.5 since his distro's download is completely effed |
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| 03:55.40 | qiyong | devilsadvocate yes, running |
| 03:56.36 | qiyong | i xkilled an unanswerbal box, then the task bar gone |
| 03:56.42 | devilsadvocate | qiyong, if plasma is running then probably you removed your panel or some such thing. you could right click on the desktop, select add widgets, and then add the components one at a time |
| 03:56.43 | qiyong | Jucato devilsadvocate ^ |
| 03:56.57 | devilsadvocate | qiyong, oh, in that case plasma might just have died |
| 03:57.15 | devilsadvocate | qiyong, try "killall plasma && plasma &" |
| 03:57.15 | qiyong | on the desktop, right-click doesn't popup menu now |
| 03:57.52 | qiyong | devilsadvocate all back now, thanks |
| 03:57.53 | Jucato | plasma's definitely not running, or not running properly |
| 03:58.43 | qiyong | Jucato: thanks |
| 03:59.08 | JukeBoxHero | and MY query? |
| 03:59.23 | JukeBoxHero | he left, i are still here :P |
| 03:59.33 | devilsadvocate | JukeBoxHero, i dont use konversation myself, so i really dont know |
| 03:59.39 | Guest72797 | i have some problem about evolution |
| 03:59.54 | devilsadvocate | JukeBoxHero, sounds to me like you should file a bug report, though, if there already isnt one |
| 03:59.56 | Jucato | Guest72797: which is not a #kde program |
| 04:00.45 | JukeBoxHero | devilsadvocate: what is bug report site for kde? |
| 04:00.53 | Jucato | bugs.kde.org |
| 04:01.00 | JukeBoxHero | alright |
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| 04:03.43 | JukeBoxHero | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150377 |
| 04:03.50 | JukeBoxHero | something but not the same ^ |
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| 04:27.14 | JukeBoxHero | when will we get a qt4 k3b? |
| 04:28.49 | drantin | when compiling from svn |
| 04:29.55 | JukeBoxHero | the official word..? |
| 04:36.59 | JukeBoxHero | hey i just checked out from svn |
| 04:37.05 | JukeBoxHero | but where did it save it? |
| 04:37.08 | JukeBoxHero | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/multimedia/k3b multimedia/k3b |
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| 04:40.34 | erik-k | Or if not that, where can I get a kdesupport that doesn't stop compiling with a syntax error? |
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| 05:41.52 | Hiryu | I'm using kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2.2. I've plugged in my digital camera. The kde camera settings picks up my camera... how do I access the pictures, etc on the device? in kde 3 it just popped up konqueror for me |
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| 05:45.06 | Hiryu | crap i have no idea how to mount this camera |
| 05:45.51 | devilsadvocate | Hiryu, bottom right of the screen, recently plugged in devices |
| 05:45.57 | usman101 | hey i have registered my nick so how can i join #php channel i tried but it forward me to some overflow channel |
| 05:45.57 | Hiryu | doesn't show up |
| 05:46.00 | Hiryu | just the cd's I have in |
| 05:46.26 | Hiryu | hmm that's not good |
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| 05:47.08 | erik-k | What the heck is this stuff: ? |
| 05:47.10 | erik-k | #error "This file was generated using the moc from 4.4.2. It" |
| 05:47.14 | erik-k | #error "cannot be used with the include files from this version of Qt." |
| 05:47.20 | erik-k | #error "(The moc has changed too much.)" |
| 05:47.21 | luke-jr | erik-k: re-moc |
| 05:47.33 | Hiryu | guess I'll have to stick with my laptop for now which has debian + kde 3.5 |
| 05:47.52 | erik-k | luke-jr: come again? command not found |
| 05:48.16 | luke-jr | erik-k: not a command |
| 05:48.32 | Jucato | erik-k: what are you trying to do? |
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| 05:48.49 | erik-k | Jucato: compile kdelibs. |
| 05:48.53 | luke-jr | erik-k: if you're not trying to do something insane, try deleting the file giving the error |
| 05:49.13 | Jucato | erik-k: SVN/trunk? |
| 05:49.17 | erik-k | Jucato: yes |
| 05:49.24 | Jucato | not sure if 4.3 depends on Qt 4.5 already |
| 05:49.41 | erik-k | I was locked out of 4./2/ because it required 4.5 |
| 05:50.16 | Jucato | 4.2 doesn't require 4.2 |
| 05:50.18 | Jucato | 4.2 doesn't require 4.5 |
| 05:50.52 | erik-k | Well I tried to build kde-4.2 and the first thing it said was that my version of qt was too old. |
| 05:51.27 | Jucato | erik-k: what version do you have installed? and do you have both Qt 3 and 4? |
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| 05:52.17 | erik-k | Jucato: I have qt3 installed from my repositories and 4.5.0 installed from source (because the repo version is totally hosed and won't build) |
| 05:53.35 | Jucato | erik-k: then there's a possibility that it's seeing Qt 3 instead of Qt 4.x |
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| 05:54.16 | Jucato | the minimum version required by KDE 4.2 is Qt 4.4.0 |
| 05:54.25 | erik-k | Jucato: Previous versions (4.1) had no problems finding qt 4 |
| 05:55.33 | Jucato | somethign might have changed with your system/distro, I don't know. but I'm 100% sure that KDE 4.2 doesn't required Qt 4.5 (that fact has actually become a source of discussion a few months ago) |
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| 05:58.30 | erik-k | 4.2.2 only requires qt-4.4 as well, yes? |
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| 05:59.43 | Jucato | yes they don't change Qt requirements in minor releases |
| 06:00.11 | tuxick | thank bob |
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| 06:00.24 | erik-k | pulls qt-4.5 and starts reinstalling 4.4.2... screw this. |
| 06:00.28 | tuxick | and fsm |
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| 06:01.57 | erik-k | May we all be touched by His Noodly Appendage... rAmen. |
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| 06:06.49 | devilsadvocate | Jucato, kdesupport requires 4.5 |
| 06:06.56 | devilsadvocate | (the svn one does) |
| 06:07.14 | Jucato | devilsadvocate: but that's trunk |
| 06:07.29 | devilsadvocate | yes |
| 06:07.44 | devilsadvocate | oh, he's trying to install 4.2.2. sorry |
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| 06:09.13 | Jucato | devilsadvocate: KDE 4.3 will require Qt 4.5.0 as minimum |
| 06:09.24 | Jucato | but not KDE 4.2.x |
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| 06:15.15 | SJr | I no longer seem to be able to use SHIFT in all KDE based applications |
| 06:15.25 | SJr | errr all QT applications |
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| 06:34.29 | JukeBoxHero | the scene: you start up fresh in KDE, and you open Dolphin.. |
| 06:35.02 | JukeBoxHero | you see all other partitions , linux, non-linux, all already mounted and ready to use? |
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| 06:35.37 | JukeBoxHero | coz I have to manually click on each partition and give root pass to enter them |
| 06:35.57 | erik-k | No, it's very dark. I can't see anything. I'm afraid of getting eaten by a grue... |
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| 06:36.36 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 06:39.09 | JukeBoxHero | if anybody wants to help me out, i can provide screenshot |
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| 07:12.09 | freshbananas | hi guys |
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| 07:12.25 | freshbananas | the spacing of applets on my kde4 panels is messed up |
| 07:12.38 | freshbananas | i'm curious if this is default behaviour in kde or the spazes in kubuntu are doing this |
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| 07:12.58 | freshbananas | everything seems to be spaced out kind of normally UNTIL i remove the pager |
| 07:13.23 | freshbananas | when i remove the page, the clock, system tray and desktop switcher EXPAND to fill up the remaining space on the panel |
| 07:13.39 | freshbananas | and there is no way to resize them, only re-order. |
| 07:13.44 | freshbananas | is this normal behaviour? |
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| 07:31.14 | SoylentYellow | Is the latest KSystemLog a KDE 4.x app only? (If so, what is the last KDE 3.x version?) |
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| 08:18.41 | outlaw84 | Wow new kde4.2 is really nice! But I cant find the option that makes it so, only the applications on the current desktop are showing in the statusbar. |
| 08:20.31 | MaNI | outlaw84, it is under "task manager settings" |
| 08:20.47 | MaNI | which you can get by right clicking in the task manager portion of the panel while the panel is unlocked |
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| 08:36.46 | silver_hook | I just noticed that Solid 4.2.2 supports NetworkManager 0.7.0 ...is there a KDE4 GUI for managing networks already available for KDE 4.2? |
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| 08:40.02 | tuxick | isn't that very dist specific? |
| 08:40.14 | tuxick | since linux has 2000 ways to do this |
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| 08:40.52 | silver_hook | tuxick: Probably. I'm using gentoo and suddenly solid-4.2.2 pulled in networkmanager-0.7.0 when the USE="networkmanager" is set. |
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| 08:41.38 | silver_hook | But a KDE4 GUI using Solid for managing networks is not distro-specific ;) |
| 08:42.38 | outlaw84 | MaNI: thanks |
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| 08:47.57 | cb400f | silver_hook: there's a as-yet-unreleased networkmanager plasmoid.. called NetworkManagement |
| 08:48.29 | GNU\colossus | cb400f: it's included in Kubuntu 9.04, isn't it? |
| 08:48.32 | silver_hook | cb400f: That uses Solid and works under KDE 4.2.2? |
| 08:48.41 | cb400f | yes and yes |
| 08:49.06 | cb400f | it was included in opensuse 11.1 too back in December even.. though not as the default |
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| 08:49.25 | silver_hook | cb400f: Nice. Hmmm, not in Portage yet (or any of the standard overlays)... I suppose it's a binary and not a script plasmoid, right? |
| 08:49.48 | cb400f | yeah |
| 08:49.58 | cb400f | think it's developed in playground-base |
| 08:50.54 | silver_hook | And there's no forseable release date/version yet? |
| 08:51.20 | cb400f | I think it's planned to be released with 4.3 |
| 08:51.31 | silver_hook | (I'd have the same question about Chani's VictoryCalendar) |
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| 08:51.47 | cb400f | and will stephenson said that he might do some sort of release before that |
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| 08:51.58 | silver_hook | Meh, so a few more months :P |
| 08:52.23 | cb400f | you could go poke the gentoo kde packagers ;-) |
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| 08:52.50 | cb400f | tell them every other distro has it already.. even when it _will_ be releaesed, it'll still be rather immature |
| 08:52.52 | silver_hook | cb400f: Heh, will try ;) |
| 08:53.13 | cb400f | but it works ok for my basic needs at least |
| 08:53.30 | GNU\colossus | it works A-OK for WiFi |
| 08:53.37 | GNU\colossus | haven#t got to make it work with UMTS though :( |
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| 08:53.54 | cb400f | I got it to work with some mobile broadband too |
| 08:54.08 | GNU\colossus | yeah? how? |
| 08:54.22 | GNU\colossus | it'd be incredibly cool to get rid of wvdial for that purpose |
| 08:54.26 | cb400f | .. but I heard some complaints about wpa-eap .. and I'm sure there are problems with vpn and such too.. always seems to be ;-) |
| 08:54.50 | GNU\colossus | wpa-eap worked flawlessly here |
| 08:54.59 | GNU\colossus | I haven't tried to use any of the VPN backends yet |
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| 08:59.10 | outlaw84 | In kde3 you could "mouse wheel"-click on an empty desktop space and get a list of all applications on all desktop is there something similar in kde4? |
| 08:59.49 | silver_hook | outlaw84: Ctrl+F9 |
| 09:00.16 | silver_hook | outlaw84: and for all desktops Ctrl+F10 |
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| 09:00.51 | outlaw84 | silver_hook: nothing happens for me :( |
| 09:01.22 | silver_hook | outlaw84: you have to set it in the KWin effects settings. |
| 09:01.53 | szal | Ctrl-F9 doesn't work here either (perhaps because I have only 1 app running currently on the current desktop), Ctrl-F10 does it (KMail on other desktop) |
| 09:02.33 | silver_hook | szal: It's very likely because you have only one app on that desktop â it's the same effect as for Ctrl+F10 |
| 09:02.42 | cb400f | GNU\colossus: if it's any consolation I'm having probs with the mobile broadband again.. the darn thing refuses to remember the credentials |
| 09:02.49 | cb400f | .. all of a sudden |
| 09:03.02 | GNU\colossus | hm... my UMTS ISP doesn't need any creds |
| 09:03.04 | silver_hook | outlaw84: Under "desktop effects" it's called something like "show windows"... |
| 09:03.42 | szal | only thing I have explicitly disabled here is shadow effects, because it slows the screen down considerably |
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| 09:04.02 | outlaw84 | Oh, its placed there, I am currently running without accelerated graphics :/ |
| 09:04.21 | szal | then it can't work |
| 09:04.33 | silver_hook | outlaw84: Yeah, without OpenGL effects it won't work :\ |
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| 09:05.09 | outlaw84 | well thanks for the info. |
| 09:05.21 | cb400f | GNU\colossus: btw, if you want to report and troubleshoot your problems there's a nice howto here: http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement |
| 09:05.24 | silver_hook | outlaw84: You could try to select another Alt+Tab switching effect... |
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| 09:06.41 | GNU\colossus | cb400f: cool, I'll have a look |
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| 09:07.30 | cb400f | ahh.. now it works again ;-) .. it's a bit sensitive for me.. a bit on and off |
| 09:08.45 | cb400f | btw. I borrowed this modem from a guy to help him make it work.. and he didn't use to need credentials either.. but suddenly he seems to need to put a username (cdma) and an empty password to be allowed to connect... regardless of using knm3, gnome nm-applet.. or knm4 |
| 09:09.39 | GNU\colossus | strange |
| 09:10.30 | cb400f | the only way I figured out those credentials was by using some software from vodafone which extracts information from the modem |
| 09:10.54 | cb400f | .. or rather someone else in the lug had that stuff installed |
| 09:11.20 | silver_hook | Well, I'm off to my books |
| 09:11.25 | cb400f | I'm not sure what information the guy has gotten from the provider though |
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| 10:46.34 | shepherd | Is there something I must do to get the kde4 taskbar to automatically increase the amount of rows when many applications are open? |
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| 10:49.54 | cb400f | shepherd: depends on your version of kde4 |
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| 10:50.22 | shepherd | I tried it on kde 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 |
| 10:50.29 | shepherd | It's not happening though.. ): |
| 10:51.11 | cb400f | you can force it in the settings to always use x amount of rows |
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| 10:51.41 | annma | in kDE4.3 it'll work |
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| 10:52.00 | annma | you'll set a maximum number of rows and task manager will automatically adjust |
| 10:52.08 | shepherd | I've already seen this though |
| 10:52.23 | shepherd | A friend had this functionality in his kde |
| 10:52.37 | shepherd | oh wait.. he was using kdemod + arch linux |
| 10:52.53 | shepherd | maybe it's that? |
| 10:53.17 | cb400f | think he either forced it, or he's using trunk/4.3pre-beta |
| 10:53.27 | victim | shepherd: i'm using kde 4.22 and my taskbar automatically adjusts |
| 10:53.40 | victim | I think I right licked it and changed the settings |
| 10:53.47 | shepherd | victim: o_O.. strange... I have forced rows unchecked and max rows set to 2 |
| 10:55.03 | shepherd | Could it depend on the theme? |
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| 11:01.48 | ericP | i'd like to copy my konsole config from one box to another. where are the prefs? |
| 11:02.03 | victim | shepherd: http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/2dff0b37fd.png and http://www.ukimagehost.com/uploads/f79b7fd08e.png |
| 11:02.34 | shepherd | Arg... ò_ó |
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| 11:03.51 | Phlogi | do I have to active anything in kde that I get a notification when I insert an usb stick or a cdrom? |
| 11:04.05 | Phlogi | hal and dbus are running and the device pops up in dolphin for example |
| 11:05.16 | shepherd | victim: strange... I have the exact same setting as you :( |
| 11:05.55 | victim | is your bar big enough for 2 rows? |
| 11:06.18 | shepherd | If I force them they look normal.. but I'll try making it bigger to make sure |
| 11:06.50 | shepherd | Nope, same result |
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| 11:43.07 | wm4 | how can I get an "enlarge font size" toolbar button in konqueror? |
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| 11:44.11 | annma | System Settings -> Apearance -> Icons for KDE4 |
| 11:44.25 | annma | KControl for KDE3 as yousaid you switched back to KDE 3 |
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| 11:45.05 | annma | this will change size for all toolbars |
| 11:45.22 | annma | for a single toolbar you right click on it and you should get a Size menu |
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| 11:46.12 | wm4 | annma: switching back proved to be harder than thought |
| 11:46.26 | wm4 | instead, I'm in the process of finding replacements for my favourite KDE apps |
| 11:46.47 | annma | OK nice |
| 11:46.59 | annma | Firefox is a popular browser |
| 11:47.12 | annma | Enlarge font icon is on the HTML toolbar |
| 11:47.12 | wm4 | also, I want a button for changing the font size for the website konqueror displays |
| 11:47.30 | wm4 | "The application System Settings (systemsettings) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)." oh nice |
| 11:47.40 | annma | pastebin backtrace of crash* |
| 11:47.47 | annma | so I can see what caused it |
| 11:47.56 | wm4 | too late |
| 11:48.02 | annma | convenient |
| 11:48.19 | wm4 | I reproduced it |
| 11:48.42 | wm4 | have fun: http://pastebin.com/m313ed513 |
| 11:48.56 | wm4 | (not very detailed) |
| 11:48.59 | annma | LOL |
| 11:49.10 | annma | I only have fun when debug symbols are present |
| 11:49.16 | wm4 | well sorry about that |
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| 11:50.32 | wm4 | I can't mix buttons from the main toolbar and the html toolbar? |
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| 11:52.04 | annma | put that toolbar at the place you want and lick it |
| 11:52.07 | annma | lock it |
| 11:52.26 | annma | remove the other icons if you do not want them |
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| 11:54.28 | wm4 | this is my toolbar: http://upload.failnation.com/scr_2.png |
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| 11:54.46 | wm4 | I want the new tab and new window buttons right benath the location bar |
| 11:55.00 | wm4 | *beneath |
| 11:55.15 | wm4 | and the back button should be next to the left window border |
| 11:55.22 | wm4 | I can't put the html toolbar anywhere |
| 11:55.26 | annma | I see a menu bar |
| 11:55.41 | wm4 | yeah, the menu bar is too high btw. |
| 11:56.10 | annma | I don't see your toolbar |
| 11:56.21 | annma | try Firefox |
| 11:56.27 | victim | it is a nice menu bar, very pretty, it would suit my needs |
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| 11:56.40 | wm4 | annma: there are two toolbars below the menu |
| 11:56.43 | annma | to replace this bad Konqueror |
| 11:57.04 | annma | I only see a menubar |
| 11:57.05 | wm4 | well, I don't hate konqueror |
| 11:57.08 | pinotree | the "extra height" of konq's menubar has been fixed (in kde 4.3 for sure, don't remember about 4.2.x) |
| 11:57.15 | wm4 | then you are blind |
| 11:57.21 | wm4 | pinotree: good |
| 11:57.24 | annma | victim: you see the toolbars? |
| 11:57.43 | wm4 | annma: actually, I hate konqueror that not-much that I'll continue using it |
| 11:57.49 | wm4 | kate, however, has to go for some time |
| 11:57.58 | annma | gedit as replacement |
| 11:58.13 | wm4 | gedit is bad |
| 11:58.24 | annma | so what doyou use as replacement? |
| 11:58.24 | wm4 | geany seems to be the best replacement so far |
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| 11:59.04 | wm4 | but kate... I can't use it anymore... maybe because of the slowness |
| 11:59.15 | wm4 | or it is possible that the line spacing increased in kate... whatever |
| 12:00.56 | wm4 | and the changed color scheme |
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| 12:04.54 | nucleo | Hi all. Is anybody saw this tooltips bug? http://nucleo.fedorapeople.org/kde_tooltips_bug.ogv |
| 12:05.45 | Half-Left | nucleo: It's a xorg bug |
| 12:06.09 | nucleo | Half-Left: is there patch that fixes it? |
| 12:06.27 | Half-Left | Nope, it's been reported though |
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| 12:07.02 | Half-Left | xorg's argb it not that great |
| 12:09.34 | Half-Left | Though I've not see it with the newer Xorg |
| 12:09.35 | wm4 | ok, I'm convinced the line spacing in kate has increased from kde3 to kde4, even though the same font is set |
| 12:09.35 | nucleo | Half-Left: why not all can reproduce this bug? |
| 12:09.35 | Half-Left | What's all? |
| 12:09.35 | nucleo | Half-Left: not all people |
| 12:09.38 | Half-Left | That can depend on a number of things |
| 12:09.49 | Half-Left | Not everyone will hit the same bug |
| 12:09.54 | nucleo | Half-Left: I asked on #fedora-kde - they can't reproduce |
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| 12:10.44 | Half-Left | Well I can |
| 12:11.04 | Half-Left | I reported the bug |
| 12:11.31 | nucleo | Half-Left: can you give a link to the bug report? |
| 12:11.51 | Half-Left | (to KDE that is) and Aaron and others said it was a Xorg bug |
| 12:14.30 | Half-Left | I don't have it, most have been about 8 months ago |
| 12:14.37 | wm4 | Kate has higher line spacing than, say, Geany: http://upload.failnation.com/kate_geany.png |
| 12:14.48 | wm4 | any explanation why? |
| 12:15.15 | nucleo | Half-Left: OK. Thanks. |
| 12:15.25 | wm4 | it's a pixel per line |
| 12:15.52 | wm4 | or a bit more |
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| 12:17.17 | Half-Left | nucleo: You do know it's only with compoisting off? |
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| 12:17.26 | Half-Left | compositing* |
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| 12:18.06 | nucleo | Half-Left: do you mean Option "Composite" "Enable" ? |
| 12:18.18 | nucleo | in xorg.conf |
| 12:19.02 | nucleo | nucleo: I will try to remove it |
| 12:19.04 | Half-Left | nucleo: i.e no desktop effects on |
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| 12:20.47 | Half-Left | If it takes out a portion of the window then it's go to be a Xorg bug |
| 12:20.52 | nucleo | Half-Left: when i enable desktop effects tooltips displays fine |
| 12:21.03 | Half-Left | Yes, thats what I mean |
| 12:21.36 | nucleo | Half-Left: and when disable bug again |
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| 12:23.42 | burbuja | hi |
| 12:24.10 | burbuja | please could somebody help me disable kde 4.2 global shortcust? :( |
| 12:24.24 | burbuja | I still hope, it is possible |
| 12:24.49 | wm4 | burbuja: what about system settings -> input actions |
| 12:25.13 | burbuja | let me look there |
| 12:25.21 | burbuja | I was was searching for answer hours |
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| 12:26.19 | burbuja | I need to disable ctrl + f12 and a few more |
| 12:26.31 | burbuja | alt + f12, alt + F11 |
| 12:26.37 | burbuja | please tell me how |
| 12:26.49 | burbuja | I will appreciate your help very much |
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| 12:27.28 | tuxick | burbuja: simply via system settings? |
| 12:28.04 | Jucato | some of those are shortcuts for some Desktop Effects. disabling desktop effects will disable them. or you can disable them one by one in System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts |
| 12:28.44 | burbuja | sorry to bother you, could you make a screenshot for me? |
| 12:28.50 | burbuja | I am a bit confused |
| 12:29.22 | burbuja | kdesu systemsettings |
| 12:29.25 | Jucato | click on the K Menu, click on "System Settings" in the Favorites tab. click on Keyboar & Mouse icon in System Settings |
| 12:29.28 | Jucato | no! |
| 12:29.33 | Jucato | do not use kdesu |
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| 12:31.03 | burbuja | :O |
| 12:31.10 | burbuja | Jucato: thanks a lot |
| 12:31.19 | burbuja | what component have I to select? |
| 12:31.34 | burbuja | these global entries were empty yesterday |
| 12:31.38 | Jucato | try checking KWin |
| 12:31.54 | Jucato | but others that you're interested in might be from other components too (like Plasma) |
| 12:33.31 | burbuja | aha |
| 12:33.44 | burbuja | Jucato: but these entries were empty yesterday |
| 12:33.50 | burbuja | is ti possible? |
| 12:34.00 | Jucato | probably a problem with your system |
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| 12:36.13 | burbuja | I imported some schema yesterday |
| 12:36.29 | burbuja | thank you a lot Jucato |
| 12:36.35 | burbuja | :) |
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| 12:40.03 | wm4 | so how to fix the higher line spacing in kde4? http://upload.failnation.com/kate_geany_1.png |
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| 13:12.19 | jaro | hi there. I'm quite satisfied with konsole (kde3.5, ubuntu) however I'd like to know if it is somehow possible to bind custom shortcuts to specific profiles. Like if I press alt+1 i'll get "white on black" whereas pressing alt+2 will switch the current tab to "black on white" or something like that. I thing that would be especially cool as it is sometimes quite useful to change color profile (I do it often due to varying light conditions) |
| 13:12.57 | jaro | It seems to me that this is not possible "out of the box" but maybe there is some trick or hack that can do. |
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| 13:17.28 | naught102 | hey, I open a file over sftpwith kate, and try to change it and save it, and I get bad permission error, so I change the permissions over ssh to a+w, and I still get and permissions error. |
| 13:17.43 | naught102 | andyone know how I can fix that? is kate caching the permissions or something? |
| 13:18.04 | naught102 | new permissions show up fine in konqueror |
| 13:18.53 | naught102 | same problem in embedded advanced text editor... |
| 13:19.47 | naught102 | and in kwrite |
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| 13:21.55 | naught102 | ahhh.. error is actually "Could not rename original file sftp://naught101@ecoanarchist.org/var/www/dbsizes.php"... I think it's the backup that's the problem |
| 13:22.58 | naught102 | except it's not set to make a backup on remote files |
| 13:23.21 | annma | ecoanarchist, interesting |
| 13:23.52 | annew | user complains that he can't use dead-keys with kde4 |
| 13:23.57 | annew | any hints? |
| 13:24.17 | annma | with kde4 annew: any more precisions? |
| 13:24.21 | annma | what app? |
| 13:24.47 | annew | annma: german keyboard - he says in any kde4 app |
| 13:25.01 | annma | in kwrite? |
| 13:25.14 | annew | <quote> |
| 13:25.15 | annew | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.17 | annew | type any Deadkeys in any KDE4 application. If I want to type â, I just get ^a. |
| 13:25.18 | annew | If I want to use a compose key, this doesnât work either. |
| 13:25.25 | annma | for me â in kwrite |
| 13:25.38 | annma | only in some plasma widget there is a problem |
| 13:25.56 | annma | probably due to a Qt bug but the rest works very fine |
| 13:26.05 | annma | I use them all the time |
| 13:26.19 | annew | I'll ask him to ask here or on the forum |
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| 13:27.22 | annma | for plasma: kickoff and krunner work |
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| 13:27.32 | annma | only disctionary for ex does not work |
| 13:27.35 | pusling | annew: any kde app or any app ? |
| 13:28.20 | annew | pusling: he says not in any kde4 app but works in 3.5 |
| 13:28.37 | annma | at the first release QGraphicsWidgets did not compose, I submitted the bug to Qt Software |
| 13:28.49 | annma | butthat was only QGraphicsWidgets, not all KDE 4 apps |
| 13:29.11 | annma | ask him his KDE version, distro and if it works in KWrite for ex |
| 13:29.39 | pusling | annew: at least X in some distributions has changed recently giving weird issues |
| 13:29.46 | annew | annma: I'll do that |
| 13:30.03 | annew | pusling: I'll also mention that and ask he if knows of recent change |
| 13:30.40 | pusling | annew: at least in debian unstable, X is in slight flux |
| 13:31.06 | annew | ok - maybe fedora, too |
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| 13:36.55 | naught102 | hrmmm... maybe kate can only save existing files in a directory with write permissions? |
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| 13:54.33 | wm4 | is it dangerous to use kde3 and kde4 applications at the same time? |
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| 13:56.49 | annma | not at all, I use konversation from kde3 |
| 13:58.28 | annma | you can use kde3 apps in kde4 or the contrary |
| 14:02.08 | annma | however if you say too much kde4 sucks then you risk some explosion, we triggered this as an Easter Egg |
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| 14:04.31 | wm4 | annma: KDE4 sucks sucks sucks |
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| 14:04.41 | victim | kaBOOOM |
| 14:04.46 | annma | lol |
| 14:04.53 | annma | byebye kde4 |
| 14:04.59 | annma | bye bye wm4 |
| 14:05.18 | wm4 | oh god, what did I do |
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| 14:06.28 | JukeBoxHero | what the two days wm4 rant isnt over yet..? |
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| 14:11.18 | person | Hey |
| 14:11.26 | person | I lost the passwd to my KDE Wallet >< |
| 14:11.36 | person | What shall I do? |
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| 14:13.56 | victim | look in the registry, it is ROT13 encoded |
| 14:14.06 | person | registry? |
| 14:14.14 | victim | oh, sorry I thought this was windows |
| 14:14.20 | person | lol k :P |
| 14:15.23 | victim | if you have several years you could use a dictionary attack |
| 14:15.37 | devilsadvocate | person: if you just want to be able to use the wallet again you can just create a new wallet and set it as your default |
| 14:15.41 | person | Is it encrypted? |
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| 14:15.54 | devilsadvocate | but i dont think you'll be able to recover the stuff in this one, iirc |
| 14:15.58 | person | I want my old passwords... I mean I have root access |
| 14:16.21 | person | I lost my root passwd, my user passwd and my wallet passwd. All were the same. |
| 14:16.36 | devilsadvocate | person: 'lost' ? |
| 14:16.39 | person | I changed my root and user passwds to something I know |
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| 14:16.47 | person | By chrooting from another OS |
| 14:17.20 | person | Which leaves me stuck with my KDE Wallet password. Is there some log of old passwords somewhere? |
| 14:17.27 | SandGorgon | in kde 4.2, how do I map alt+space to the window menu (maximize, minimize, etc.) |
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| 14:17.52 | devilsadvocate | person: if i were the developer, i'd make sure that password were not recoverable by any normal means if i should be using it |
| 14:18.01 | victim | >Is there some log of old passwords somewhere? I hope not |
| 14:18.05 | devilsadvocate | person: but im not, so i cant give an authoritative answer :P |
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| 14:18.10 | person | Yeah |
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| 14:18.32 | person | yeah this is the thing, the point of a password is that you can't just go grab it |
| 14:18.56 | person | Merd |
| 14:19.26 | person | So I'll have to crack it, I guess. |
| 14:19.36 | person | Which is problematic because it was a fairly strong password |
| 14:19.39 | devilsadvocate | wonders if the kwallet has a low-security mode |
| 14:20.36 | devilsadvocate | person: think about that for a bit : its a password that unlocks _all_ your other passwords. its just one string, so its ok for an arbitrarily strong encryption algorithm to be used to encrypt it |
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| 14:21.25 | person | Maybe I saved it in an uencrypted file somewhere |
| 14:21.43 | devilsadvocate | person: if the kwallet devs did not want the password to be recoverable, i doubt you will be able to. hence perhaps you should wait until someone who knows more responds |
| 14:21.46 | person | How do I cat a directory recursively? |
| 14:22.34 | devilsadvocate | there is a combination of cat, grep, and awk that does it. dont remember now, but a cursory google search should find it |
| 14:23.06 | person | cursory? |
| 14:23.21 | person | Like Uncle Rodney's Cursory Rhymes? |
| 14:24.12 | person | Well thanks folks, perhaps I'd better try and engage the logic part of my mind |
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| 14:30.21 | Septi | bye |
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| 14:31.07 | Dedi | hi, can anyone suggest an app for using a scanner with kde4? |
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| 14:32.43 | Jucato | Dedi: skanlite, or kolourpaint |
| 14:33.19 | Dedi | great, thanks :) |
| 14:33.25 | Jucato | krita has one as well I think |
| 14:33.51 | Jucato | (apparently not) |
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| 14:40.03 | Half-Left | Dedi: Digikam can scan as well |
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| 14:43.50 | aditsu | hi, I'm having some problems with krfb (in kde 3.5.9): shift is not working, and krfb crashes every time I disconnect from it, how can I fix it? |
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| 14:46.43 | skamster | hello there |
| 14:47.03 | skamster | does someone know, where the dragon-player save streams? |
| 14:47.12 | skamster | don't found something in /tmp :s |
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| 14:47.23 | skamster | and direct download isn't allowed ;) |
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| 14:47.47 | stbuehler | try "lsof" |
| 14:47.54 | person | Will suave men in black carrying silenced pistols come over to my house with liquid nitrogen to feeze my RAM and take it to MI6 if I install John The Ripper? |
| 14:48.57 | person | Too late I've installed it... nee naw nee naw |
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| 14:50.02 | skamster | lsof | grep dragon |
| 14:50.10 | skamster | there isn't a result :( |
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| 14:51.16 | skamster | and there aren't any settings with a path |
| 14:52.11 | pinotree | skamster: most probably the multimedia engine (xine, gstreamer, etc) behind is able to just fetch the content from the remote location |
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| 14:55.22 | person | I assume there's no way for me to recover old kedit documents that went when I crashed the X Server? |
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| 14:55.46 | annma | old kedit? |
| 14:55.59 | person | old documents |
| 14:56.13 | person | that i had on kedit but not saved |
| 14:56.15 | annma | what do they say when you try to load them? |
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| 14:56.35 | annma | I did not know kedit was still used |
| 14:56.40 | person | it is by me |
| 14:57.04 | annma | it has no feature to get a backup file? |
| 14:57.19 | annma | my kwrite and kate have that as default |
| 14:57.25 | person | Meh I don't know, I would assume that it doesn't autosave anywhere? |
| 14:57.47 | person | I mean I know that these things save a backup file (by default) when you save the document but I didn't even do that >< |
| 14:57.47 | annma | do you have the files or not? |
| 14:57.53 | person | Oh I'm chasing wild geese, sorry |
| 14:58.02 | person | Not as far as I'm aware >< |
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| 14:58.11 | annma | so there is no magic involved |
| 14:58.12 | person | Didn't save them myself |
| 14:58.16 | person | Awwww |
| 14:58.27 | annma | you can try some incantations |
| 14:58.35 | person | Maybe I'll have to call my local shaman |
| 14:58.36 | annma | and offerings to KDE deities |
| 14:59.02 | person | Hmm, shall I change my Kopete theme to Konqui? :P |
| 15:00.58 | shepherd | *shudders* |
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| 15:01.37 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 15:02.20 | rindolf | How can I import a Google Calendar iCal resource, so KOrganizer will sync new entries from it into my local calendar? |
| 15:02.28 | rindolf | I'm using KDE-4.2.x |
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| 15:04.03 | Vegita | mornin' |
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| 15:04.31 | Vegita | yeah, KDE kills gay Gnome imho |
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| 15:05.05 | pinotree | uh? |
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| 15:06.12 | aseigo | pinotree: moin |
| 15:06.24 | Vegita | nuthin |
| 15:06.25 | pinotree | morning aseigo, slept well? |
| 15:06.27 | Vegita | just happy |
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| 15:06.37 | Vegita | that I'm using kde since a month |
| 15:06.50 | shepherd | KDE is the best! |
| 15:06.54 | thehardman | I changed my window color to a dark red and greyed out options are hard to read and I cant find where to change what color greyed out options are? |
| 15:06.55 | Vegita | in a country there my mornin |
| 15:07.01 | Vegita | here it's 17.08 |
| 15:07.09 | shepherd | o_O |
| 15:07.18 | shepherd | What country are you in? It's 17:15 here |
| 15:07.20 | Vegita | *may |
| 15:07.36 | aditsu | 23:07 here |
| 15:07.40 | Vegita | now I'm using kde, but it can't helpagainst my silicon keyboard |
| 15:07.47 | Vegita | Hungary |
| 15:07.52 | Vegita | Central-Europe |
| 15:08.08 | Vegita | then maybe in Australia it's morning |
| 15:08.13 | duke_ | hi! may you help me send the bug report about this: http://imagebin.org/46196, please? Because my english not so good for it. it's happens after paste any text into dialog window of kopete... |
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| 15:09.38 | Vegita | [17:07] <Vegita> hi all, just a dumb question |
| 15:09.39 | Vegita | [17:07] <Vegita> if sumthing is not shared on a windows pc in a LAN |
| 15:09.41 | Vegita | [17:07] <Vegita> what should I use for username and password |
| 15:09.42 | Vegita | [17:07] <Vegita> for eample on c$ |
| 15:09.43 | aseigo | rindolf: hm.. i think the google app support is only now being worked on... |
| 15:09.44 | Vegita | [17:08] <Vegita> *example |
| 15:09.45 | Vegita | [17:08] <Vegita> I can only connect as guest to shared drives |
| 15:09.47 | Vegita | [17:11] <Vegita> or it isn't even possible? |
| 15:09.49 | Vegita | *about samba |
| 15:10.00 | rindolf | aseigo: ah. |
| 15:10.04 | rindolf | aseigo: app? |
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| 15:10.12 | aseigo | rindolf: but when it lands, you'd add it like any other resource in korg... if google offers it over remote ical or imap, you can use that already though |
| 15:10.21 | aseigo | rindolf: yeah, gmail, google calendar, etc |
| 15:10.27 | rindolf | aseigo: it is available on ical. |
| 15:10.38 | rindolf | aseigo: but I want it to be persistent - not one-time. |
| 15:10.42 | rindolf | aseigo: from http:// |
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| 15:10.52 | rindolf | aseigo: so new events will also show up. |
| 15:12.31 | Vegita | this is the first time, I'm ircing NOT from a mobile phone :D |
| 15:12.36 | aseigo | rindolf: have you added it as a "Calendar in Remote File"? i assume it will require manual reloading (probably a menu entry for that) |
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| 15:13.33 | rindolf | aseigo: where do I find "Calendar in Remote File"? |
| 15:13.45 | rindolf | aseigo: I only see Import. |
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| 15:14.05 | rindolf | aseigo: and it goes to the filesystem. |
| 15:14.18 | person | In what file are my kdewallet passwords stored? |
| 15:14.22 | aseigo | rindolf: ah, ok, in the side bar on the left (need to be in day or week view) ... there's the "Resource View". if you don't see that, go to Settings -> Sidebar and turn it on |
| 15:14.38 | Vegita | [17:16] <person> In what file are my kdewallet passwords stored? |
| 15:14.42 | Vegita | search in krusader.) |
| 15:14.46 | Vegita | for your usernames |
| 15:14.50 | Vegita | as text |
| 15:15.12 | person | Hmm not sure I've ever used that, thanks |
| 15:15.12 | aseigo | rindolf: then click on the + sign there and you'll get a rather silly (imho:) dialog showing all your options. "Calendar in Remote File" is one of them |
| 15:15.12 | aseigo | rindolf: you can use http:// for that |
| 15:15.22 | aseigo | person: `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/apps/kwallet |
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| 15:15.40 | person | Ah thanks |
| 15:15.41 | MaSch | hi |
| 15:16.19 | rindolf | aseigo: thanks, I found it. |
| 15:16.29 | MaSch | is there a special german channel or shall i try expressing me in my broken english? |
| 15:16.38 | person | Hmm, it's not in there aseigo |
| 15:16.51 | person | Actualy forget that |
| 15:16.59 | person | Oh, I'm using kde3 by the way |
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| 15:17.25 | aseigo | person: `kde-config --localprefix`/share/apps/kwallet |
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| 15:17.33 | person | Thanks |
| 15:18.08 | person | Not found, sorry :( |
| 15:18.25 | person | ed@debian:~$ `kde-config --localprefix`share/apps/kdewalletbash: /home/ed/.kde/share/apps/kdewallet: No such file or directory |
| 15:18.34 | annma | MaSch: #kde.de |
| 15:18.49 | MaSch | ohh thanks al ot annma |
| 15:19.01 | annma | you're welcome |
| 15:19.23 | rindolf | aseigo: thanks. |
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| 15:19.46 | rindolf | aseigo: now another question - can I set timed reminders for all events in the calendar? |
| 15:19.53 | rindolf | That I imported I mean. |
| 15:20.11 | pinotree | person: kde4-config for kde4 |
| 15:20.18 | person | I'm on kde |
| 15:20.19 | person | 3 |
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| 15:23.34 | person | Gah, I typed kdewallet not kwallet, sorry everyone... I think I'll go away and be sensible |
| 15:23.37 | person | Thanks for help everyone |
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| 15:25.38 | aseigo | rindolf: hmm.. i'm not sure how to do that.. maybe ask on kde-pim-users@kde.org |
| 15:25.49 | rindolf | aseigo: OK. |
| 15:28.50 | Vegita | I have only 1gb space left, but I can merge from an ntfs drive up to another 50gb. which is safer in your opinion? Adding that to my / with partition magic, or gparted, or some commands? |
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| 15:29.12 | Vegita | I have to keep my old ext3 / filesystem, just add some space |
| 15:29.59 | Guest5616 | Hey I get this error when trying to use a gmal-plasmoid :"Could not create a python script Engine for the gmail-plasmon widget" |
| 15:30.01 | Guest5616 | what could be the problem? |
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| 15:32.52 | Moult | is kdevelop kde4-ified yet? |
| 15:33.27 | beer_ | Hi |
| 15:33.47 | beer_ | did something interested happening today? |
| 15:35.51 | burbuja | somebody knows how to unmount usb in this kde 4.2 widget? |
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| 15:40.13 | annew | burbuja: are you trying to umount it in dolphin or in the device notifier? |
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| 15:42.09 | burbuja | in the device notifier |
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| 15:42.22 | burbuja | there should be some eject-button |
| 15:42.25 | burbuja | but I don't see it |
| 15:42.33 | annew | burbuja: hover over the device name and you should see a ^ inside a circle |
| 15:42.37 | annew | that's the umount |
| 15:43.22 | annew | burbuja: it's at the extreme right |
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| 15:43.49 | burbuja | annew please make a screenshot for me |
| 15:43.56 | burbuja | may be my theme is too dark |
| 15:44.05 | TheBig | Hi all. I'm trying to contact kded via dbus to initiate a move action, but cannot find out the right command! Any hint? |
| 15:44.36 | annew | burbuja: sec |
| 15:44.54 | burbuja | thank you a lot annew :) |
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| 15:45.36 | raikazejin | how can i change system wide settings in KDE 4 |
| 15:46.42 | Moult | raikazejin: systemsettings |
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| 15:49.27 | raikazejin | Moult, no go, i want to change time zones |
| 15:49.51 | annma | you can change it in Date &Time iirc |
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| 15:50.12 | Moult | raikazejin: see annma |
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| 15:50.43 | annma | yes I checked, it's there |
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| 15:50.57 | lyhana8 | hi, I've a /home shared between kubuntu and gentoo, users created before gentoo install got problem with locale. Which conf file/apps could modify my locale after login ? |
| 15:51.20 | annma | what problem? |
| 15:51.36 | annma | you share also $KDEHOME? |
| 15:51.37 | annew | burbuja: http://imagebin.org/46202 |
| 15:52.14 | lyhana8 | annma: I share my /home/<user-name>/ |
| 15:52.37 | annma | lyhana8: so explain in Gentoo what happened and what KDE locale you use |
| 15:52.52 | lyhana8 | annma: my locale are not set correctly on my account, I tried to creaate a new user and don't get the problem |
| 15:52.52 | annma | you could share your home and not your KDEHOME |
| 15:53.03 | raikazejin | no you cannot |
| 15:53.08 | annma | did you look in SystemSettings? |
| 15:53.17 | lyhana8 | annma: look for what ? |
| 15:53.17 | annma | raikazejin: you cannot? |
| 15:53.24 | annma | for the locale? |
| 15:53.37 | annma | lyhana8: can you tell what the problem really is |
| 15:53.50 | annma | instead of saying you have a problem with locale which is rather vague |
| 15:54.03 | lyhana8 | I'll have to log-in again |
| 15:54.13 | lyhana8 | annma: come back in 2min |
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| 15:54.25 | annma | not really helpful |
| 15:54.48 | raikazejin | i just want to change it |
| 15:55.00 | annma | raikazejin: change what? |
| 15:55.07 | raikazejin | my timezoen |
| 15:55.09 | raikazejin | zone* |
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| 15:55.22 | annma | my timezone is Paris, I can change it to New York |
| 15:55.28 | raikazejin | i thought i was a symlink |
| 15:55.41 | raikazejin | i see no selection for it |
| 15:55.43 | annma | explain what cannot do in systemsettings |
| 15:55.51 | raikazejin | i do not see a choice |
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| 15:56.28 | annma | you do not see a list of timezones? |
| 15:56.40 | annma | in Date & Time inSystemSettings? |
| 15:57.04 | raikazejin | no |
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| 15:57.16 | annma | screenshot then please |
| 15:57.27 | raikazejin | nm |
| 15:57.33 | raikazejin | i had to open the dialog window more |
| 15:57.40 | raikazejin | this is an MSI WIND |
| 15:57.52 | raikazejin | annew, thanks |
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| 15:57.57 | raikazejin | annma, * |
| 15:58.04 | annma | ;) no problem |
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| 16:00.58 | lyhana8 | annma: back |
| 16:01.16 | lyhana8 | here are the problem : http://dpaste.com/35913/ |
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| 16:01.54 | lyhana8 | my locale are well configured, I check them several times and do again and again the config process |
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| 16:05.54 | lyhana8 | which apps/script/config file can change the locale during the log-in ? |
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| 16:08.20 | annma | in kde you set the locale in system settings |
| 16:08.35 | annma | global vars should be set by your distro |
| 16:09.45 | annma | in KDE, open SystemSettings |
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| 16:09.45 | annma | go to Regional & Languages |
| 16:09.45 | burbuja | annma: it is not there in my theme :( |
| 16:09.45 | annma | what language is on top of the list? |
| 16:09.46 | burbuja | is it possible |
| 16:09.46 | annma | burbuja: I am talking to lyhana8 |
| 16:09.55 | burbuja | your screenshot |
| 16:09.57 | burbuja | :) |
| 16:10.06 | annma | my screenshot? |
| 16:10.19 | burbuja | http://imagebin.org/46202 |
| 16:10.22 | annma | lyhana8: are you in System Settings? |
| 16:10.45 | annma | you mean annew maybe burbuja |
| 16:10.52 | annma | as I do not follow you |
| 16:11.41 | burbuja | ahhhhh, sorry |
| 16:11.44 | burbuja | :D |
| 16:11.53 | annma | lyhana8: so? |
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| 16:15.22 | annew | burbuja: it doesn't depend on theme - |
| 16:15.34 | annew | you must hover over the device-name to see it |
| 16:16.08 | annew | if the device is mounted it shows |
| 16:16.15 | annew | if it's not mounted it doesn't |
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| 16:17.02 | person | Hello |
| 16:17.33 | person | I made a new kwallet and said to use it as default, but Konqueror is still trying to use the old one |
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| 16:18.16 | JustinJoseph | Challenge Me - http://justinjg.mybrute.com :p |
| 16:18.35 | ikonia | JustinJoseph: stop - spamming channels |
| 16:18.44 | ikonia | JustinJoseph: I have reported this to freenode, please stop |
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| 16:19.18 | Jucato | seem to be getting a lot of these mybrute spam.. |
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| 16:19.30 | Jucato | I'll be extra brutal to the next one |
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| 16:20.48 | annma | lol Jucato |
| 16:20.55 | annma | pitiful spammers |
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| 16:23.06 | person | How can I change which kwallet konqueror attempts to store passwords in? |
| 16:23.37 | lyhana8 | annma: sorry i was watching some stuff |
| 16:23.38 | annma | you were not able to delete the old files? |
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| 16:24.25 | lyhana8 | I've only one language on the list : US English |
| 16:24.38 | annma | so |
| 16:24.48 | devilsadvocate | person: use kwalletmanager and change the default wallet |
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| 16:24.56 | annma | inthe drop down box, do you have another one lyhana8 |
| 16:24.56 | person | I did, devilsadvocate |
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| 16:25.14 | lyhana8 | nop |
| 16:25.15 | devilsadvocate | person: that should be it. |
| 16:25.17 | annma | in the Add Language drop down box |
| 16:25.27 | person | devilsadvocate: That's what I thought >< |
| 16:25.27 | annma | so install KDE package for your language |
| 16:25.37 | annma | ask in your distro channel how to do so |
| 16:25.40 | lyhana8 | annma: don't have, but maybe I've one in kubuntu |
| 16:25.40 | pom | Hello. Sorry for the dumb question but where is the restart button on the KDE 3.5 desktop? I only see Lock and Log out in the start menu. (i'm a on a box and don't want to mess anything) |
| 16:25.58 | annma | lyhana8: what distro are you logged in? |
| 16:25.59 | lyhana8 | annma: I want to use US English |
| 16:26.03 | annma | so |
| 16:26.04 | lyhana8 | annma: gentoo |
| 16:26.15 | annma | so kubuntu has NOTHING to do with it |
| 16:26.26 | annma | so what is not in English? |
| 16:26.46 | lyhana8 | annma: LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.UTF-8 |
| 16:27.08 | annma | that's your distro, nothing to do with KDE |
| 16:27.14 | lyhana8 | annma: did you see this link : http://dpaste.com/35913/ |
| 16:27.27 | annma | yes but you did not explain which one you want |
| 16:27.33 | annma | this is system problem, not KDE |
| 16:27.40 | lyhana8 | I want to use en_US.UTF-8 |
| 16:27.40 | annma | so ask in Gentoo channel |
| 16:27.50 | annma | isn't KDE in English? |
| 16:28.00 | lyhana8 | it's but not in UTF-8 |
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| 16:28.13 | annma | KDE is always UTF8 |
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| 16:28.52 | person | Okay, I've solved my own problem once again. |
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| 16:28.57 | lyhana8 | annma: my desktop icons don't use UTF-8 with my account |
| 16:28.58 | person | Thanks |
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| 16:29.05 | annma | desktop icons? |
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| 16:29.18 | annma | how don't they use utf8 in English? |
| 16:29.31 | annma | screenshot |
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| 16:30.50 | lyhana8 | annma: http://imagebin.org/46213 |
| 16:30.50 | Ace2017_- | anyone having issues with kde4's system tray and compiz-fusion 0.82 as the window manager? |
| 16:31.01 | Ace2017_- | the windows raise and focus |
| 16:31.14 | annma | Ace2017_-: why do you use compiz when kwin is so good? |
| 16:31.28 | Ace2017_- | annma: doesn't work with xgl |
| 16:31.33 | Hiryu | kwin is slower in my experience, the wobbly plugin isn't as good either |
| 16:31.44 | annma | lyhana8: ask your distro then |
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| 16:32.01 | Hiryu | I've subjectively compared compiz and kwin under an nvidia card as well as an ati card (using fglrx) |
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| 16:32.21 | Hiryu | I still prefer kwin since it's a part of the desktop instead of something slapped on as an afterthought |
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| 16:32.39 | annma | lyhana8: my language is not UTF8 while KDE is |
| 16:32.53 | annma | I just added a file named çèéà on my desktop |
| 16:33.01 | tuxick | why??? |
| 16:33.17 | annma | why what? |
| 16:33.21 | Ace2017_- | Hiryu: but kwin and compiz are both window managers which are separate apps |
| 16:33.46 | lyhana8 | annma: so what do you think is the problem ? |
| 16:34.15 | annma | lyhana8: it's not KDE |
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| 16:34.31 | annma | try adding a file on desktop àèéù |
| 16:34.34 | annma | for ex |
| 16:34.37 | annma | does it work? |
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| 16:35.37 | annma | your old files might be wrongly encoded |
| 16:35.43 | lyhana8 | annma: work fine... you think the files aren't in utf8 ? |
| 16:35.51 | annma | yes |
| 16:35.52 | lyhana8 | annma: how could I check ? |
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| 16:35.57 | annma | no idea |
| 16:36.13 | lyhana8 | + that doesn't solve the `locale` error |
| 16:36.49 | annma | itr's not a 'locale' error per see |
| 16:37.01 | annma | for the moment it is a filename encoding error |
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| 16:37.23 | Ace2017_- | out of curiosity does kde4's add helper plugin keep the whole application thats currently focused bright or does it only do the currently focused window, even if its a small dialogue of the large window? |
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| 16:37.49 | Jejem | olololol root_ ! :) |
| 16:38.00 | Ace2017_- | i hate how the main inkscape window looses brightness/saturation when i focus on the toolbars with compiz's add helper plugin |
| 16:38.13 | root_ | :) |
| 16:38.28 | Jejem | Ace2017_-: just remove compiz ;) |
| 16:38.30 | Ace2017_- | well not toolbars, but the dialogues, the ctrl+shift+f |
| 16:38.35 | root_ | who need it |
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| 16:38.41 | annma | root_: never log in IRC as root or we'll all go hacking your PC |
| 16:38.50 | root_ | :) |
| 16:38.52 | Jejem | lol annma ;) |
| 16:38.53 | root_ | sure you do |
| 16:39.19 | annma | see your mouse moving, it's me |
| 16:39.26 | root_ | :) |
| 16:39.31 | root_ | waiting for you |
| 16:39.32 | root_ | :D |
| 16:39.42 | lyhana8 | annma: can't delete the file i created... |
| 16:39.52 | root_ | omg it is shaking :P |
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| 16:42.16 | Ace2017_- | why can't system tray icons be made bigger? |
| 16:42.20 | Ace2017_- | i mean can't we force size or something? |
| 16:42.43 | annma | only by making panel bigger |
| 16:42.57 | annma | you cannot have systray icons bigger than panel |
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| 16:43.23 | Ace2017_- | even when the panel is huge the systray icons don't get bigger |
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| 16:43.29 | Jucato | afaik it's part of the system tray spec (what icon size to use) |
| 16:43.47 | Ace2017_- | can't you add the option to force size? |
| 16:43.48 | Jucato | not 100% sure though |
| 16:44.43 | annma | in SystemSettings the size is 32 and grey |
| 16:44.54 | Ace2017_- | so the spec may give kde small icons, but if the user doesn't care if the small icons get enlarged to huge ugly icons then why shouldn't they be allowed to have huge ugly icons? |
| 16:45.15 | annma | file a wish report |
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| 16:45.58 | Ace2017_- | hey i have an idea, zoom-resize |
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| 16:46.28 | Ace2017_- | instead of conventional resizing, it actually enlarges the window by using zoom, like how an image editor would |
| 16:48.09 | soccerjonp | with the zoom plugin is it possible to not scroll around the screen with the mouse, but use the keyboard instead? |
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| 16:48.39 | Ace2017_- | no but if windows are allowed to be zoomed you could have small windows made larger |
| 16:48.45 | soccerjonp | if I'm zooming for a specific window, I don't want accidentally moving the mouse to take me away |
| 16:48.57 | soccerjonp | how can you zoom windows? |
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| 16:49.25 | soccerjonp | that would be great |
| 16:49.27 | Ace2017_- | the window manager does the opposite of window zoom app, it takes a window, zooms it and puts the zoomed version in place of the window |
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| 16:49.47 | soccerjonp | yes, how do I do it? |
| 16:50.05 | Ace2017_- | you can't |
| 16:50.08 | Ace2017_- | it was just an idea |
| 16:50.12 | soccerjonp | awww |
| 16:50.18 | soccerjonp | I was excited |
| 16:50.25 | Ace2017_- | yea i liked it too |
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| 16:52.51 | soccerjonp | hmm, is there a way to make any window fullscreen? |
| 16:53.21 | Ace2017_- | yes |
| 16:53.29 | soccerjonp | how? |
| 16:53.54 | Ace2017_- | right click on the window border, in advanced theres a fullscreen option |
| 16:53.56 | hallowname | wow, amarok team has been busy this weekend :D great work ppl |
| 16:54.13 | Ace2017_- | hallowname: what did they do? |
| 16:54.15 | tuxick | they made it work without mysql again? |
| 16:54.20 | tuxick | that'd be great |
| 16:54.27 | Ace2017_- | why does it need mysql? |
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| 16:55.03 | hallowname | bunch of commits in collection/ and context/ |
| 16:55.03 | Half-Left | because it's fast for big music collections |
| 16:55.14 | hallowname | it needs mysql bc some ppl (me) have 10million songs ;p |
| 16:55.30 | Ace2017_- | what does juk use? |
| 16:55.42 | Ace2017_- | define big |
| 16:55.54 | Half-Left | 5 years ago you wouldn't imagine having the music collection you have |
| 16:56.02 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: flatfile i think... maybe sqlite |
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| 16:56.31 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: mysqle is fast anyway. not like its a bad idea to have it work with amarok really, ;p |
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| 16:57.10 | hallowname | tuxick: why? i like it. it would suck updating my collection w/o it |
| 16:57.18 | Ace2017_- | i've always found amarok to be slow, i didn't like interface in v2 so juk is still my fav music player |
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| 16:58.15 | wm4 | what exactly is the reason that kde4 text rendering is slower than in kde3? |
| 16:58.21 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: im a c++ nerd. so amarok is the best thing since boobs to me. juk is too simple for me, ;p. needz wiki. |
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| 16:59.25 | hallowname | wm4: it is? |
| 16:59.27 | soccerjonp | has Juk been updated for KDE4 yet? |
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| 16:59.37 | hallowname | soccerjonp: yup |
| 16:59.49 | soccerjonp | cool |
| 16:59.57 | wm4 | hallowname: I suspect that it is on my system |
| 16:59.57 | hallowname | soccerjonp: i didnt know there was a qt3 juk actually lol |
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| 17:00.38 | Ace2017_- | soccerjonp: but you might want to hold onto the qt3 version, kde4's has a broken autofade :) |
| 17:00.43 | hallowname | wm4: hm, qt4 is around 40% faster than qt3 on average... y do you suspect that? |
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| 17:00.50 | wm4 | for example, if I load this URL and scroll around by dragging the scroll bar thing, it's slow: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2009-April/thread.html |
| 17:00.53 | soccerjonp | ya, I know I like autofade, but it's not essential |
| 17:01.05 | wm4 | this wasn't an issue in kde3 |
| 17:01.08 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: since when? my jk from trunk crossfaded fine like 4 days ago |
| 17:01.33 | Ace2017_- | ah maybe it was fixed in trunk, yay |
| 17:01.41 | Half-Left | Ace2017_-: That's the backend not KDE, i.e xine |
| 17:01.45 | hallowname | wm4: maybe you have too much loaded in ram? strip down ur eyecandy or something |
| 17:01.46 | Ace2017_- | hallowname: can the crossfade be turned off yet? |
| 17:02.19 | wm4 | hallowname: there's as much eye candy as there was when I used kde3 konqueror... NONE |
| 17:02.24 | Ace2017_- | hey what about rearranging the system tray icons |
| 17:02.30 | Ace2017_- | thats an idea |
| 17:02.33 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: dont remember, i cant look right now ;p |
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| 17:02.53 | wm4 | hallowname: also, if you'd tell me how to kill kde4 eye candy... I still see lots of gradients on kde GUI elements here |
| 17:03.06 | Ace2017_- | huh, debian still has qt3 amarok in unstable |
| 17:03.11 | hallowname | wm4: weird. dunno. how much ram u have? |
| 17:03.27 | pinotree | wm4: tried changing widget theme from oxygen to eg plastique? |
| 17:03.31 | wm4 | hallowname: it's "you", and I have 2 GB of ram, although I don't know why this would matter |
| 17:03.36 | annma | the page is huged that you pasted |
| 17:03.42 | wm4 | pinotree: yeah, I'm using plastique |
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| 17:03.59 | Ace2017_- | i found that if i run kde4 juk, then switch back to kde3's juk, i end up with a memory leak that causes juk to be killed within 30 seconds |
| 17:04.10 | hallowname | wm4: 2gb is way more than enough. i dont know whats slowing u down. lol. sorry. |
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| 17:04.50 | pinotree | wm4: even as windeco? |
| 17:05.03 | wm4 | hallowname: the url I posted... can you drag konqueror's scrollbar button (the thing in the middle of the scrollbar) around and it doesn't lag? also u suck |
| 17:05.24 | wm4 | pinotree: I'm using icewm as window manager... my icewm theme has exactly 0% eye candy |
| 17:05.43 | annma | it's very fast here |
| 17:05.50 | Ace2017_- | firefox is also very fast |
| 17:05.54 | annma | when the page is loaded as my connection is not quick |
| 17:05.54 | pinotree | wm4: also note that "eye candy" does not always imply "resource usage" |
| 17:06.02 | wm4 | must be my nvidia drivers (as always, blame the video driver) |
| 17:06.09 | annma | I run Intel |
| 17:06.19 | Ace2017_- | fglrx + xgl |
| 17:06.26 | annma | I don't have slowness in konq scrolling nor in Kate |
| 17:06.28 | wm4 | pinotree: well that's true... but I'm sure gradients need more resources than solid fills |
| 17:06.39 | wm4 | annma: in kate, I experienced a slow down too |
| 17:06.45 | annma | I know |
| 17:06.47 | annma | I don't |
| 17:06.56 | wm4 | but I don't understand why, it looks exactly as in kde3 |
| 17:07.06 | wm4 | why would it be slower now? |
| 17:07.11 | annma | you run kde3 on the same machine? |
| 17:07.15 | annma | within kde4? |
| 17:07.27 | annma | I mean, Kate from kde3 within kde4? |
| 17:07.29 | wm4 | I don't "run" any kde... I only use kde programs |
| 17:07.36 | annma | use = run |
| 17:07.56 | annma | so: do you "use" kate from kde3 on kde4? |
| 17:08.12 | annma | or konqueror from KDE3 on kde4 |
| 17:08.13 | wm4 | right now I'm using kde3's kate (yay downgrade) and kde4's konqueror |
| 17:08.23 | annma | ON KDE4? |
| 17:08.38 | wm4 | annma: "on"? I run it on icewm |
| 17:08.41 | Sho_ | wm4: nVidia drivers are known to have horrible performance when rendering bitmap fonts in Qt4 apps and anti-aliasing is disabled |
| 17:08.44 | annma | god |
| 17:08.55 | annma | your desktop is not kde4 then? |
| 17:09.00 | wm4 | Sho_: oh... and I have antialiasing disabled |
| 17:09.02 | Sho_ | wm4: So if you use a bitmap font in Kate, you probably want to enable anti-aliasing, or not use a bitmap font |
| 17:09.16 | wm4 | Sho_: it's a truetype font, though |
| 17:09.19 | Sho_ | wm4: Yes, with anti-aliasing disabled and a bitmap font nVidia+Qt4 is just suuuuper slow |
| 17:09.27 | wm4 | annma: my desktop is icewm |
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| 17:09.44 | soccerjonp | no, that's you're window manager |
| 17:09.54 | annma | gives up |
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| 17:10.03 | annma | wm4 is as slow as his system |
| 17:10.03 | wm4 | soccerjonp: then I guess I use no desktop at all |
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| 17:10.32 | soccerjonp | haha, that's possible, which distro are you on? |
| 17:10.43 | wm4 | debian unstable |
| 17:11.11 | jazka | wm4: your link is as smooth as it can be here, with konq, nvidia 9800gt and 185.19 drivers |
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| 17:11.54 | soccerjonp | when you installed didn't you have a choice between GNOME or KDE or Xfce? |
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| 17:12.29 | wm4 | soccerjonp: I don't remember... but I want none of this "desktop environment" crap |
| 17:12.43 | soccerjonp | haha, ok |
| 17:12.45 | wm4 | you know, with splash loading screens when starting |
| 17:12.53 | soccerjonp | yup |
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| 17:13.40 | hallowname | wm4: i have a 512mb system with 1.0ghz. running kde4 + 3d desktop + wobbly windows + 8 cc1plus process's... ur 2gb system should b fast. sry u dont liek meh lingoz. ;p |
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| 17:14.15 | wm4 | hallowname: are you that guy who writes all those youtube comments? |
| 17:14.49 | Ace2017_- | anyone familiar with amarok know how to set it to a 2 column layout? without the plugins column in the middle? |
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| 17:15.04 | hallowname | wm4: ?? lol. just a kid who grew up on the net. |
| 17:15.12 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: bespin theme |
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| 17:15.23 | Ace2017_- | oh, i use qtcurve |
| 17:15.46 | Guest26330 | hey how do I install eclipse 3.4.2? |
| 17:15.50 | Guest26330 | hey how do I install eclipse 3.4.2? |
| 17:15.53 | soccerjonp | anyone know how bespin compares with oxygen in terms of speed, completeness, and code quality? |
| 17:16.05 | pinotree | Guest26330: you should ask in the channel of your distro |
| 17:16.05 | Ace2017_- | Guest26330: wrong channel, ask in your distro's channel |
| 17:16.10 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: the bespin author wrote that hack. to hide the context view in amarok. in amarok trunk u can just resize the middle column to no width. |
| 17:16.20 | Guest26330 | sry.. |
| 17:16.31 | hallowname | Guest26330: eclipse.org ? lol they have a binary installer. easy as pie. |
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| 17:17.54 | Ace2017_- | amarok uses a lot of custom stuff doesn't it, it doesn't resemble the widget theme much |
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| 17:19.09 | hallowname | Ace2017_-: it reflects bespin nicely. the context applets wont ever look like the kde theme tho i dont think... scrollbars and panels and dialogs will tho |
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| 17:27.06 | Vegita | what is dnd? |
| 17:27.33 | pinotree | drag and drop |
| 17:27.55 | Vegita | :D |
| 17:28.08 | Vegita | what isit seeks in a nickname? |
| 17:28.45 | pinotree | or maybe it could even be dungeons and dragons... |
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| 17:29.48 | Vegita | oh |
| 17:29.50 | Vegita | i see |
| 17:29.55 | Vegita | he's off to nerd |
| 17:30.14 | Vegita | becoz dorks doesn'T answer him her |
| 17:30.16 | Vegita | e |
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| 17:58.13 | ewet | hi, when will the kde4 system tray again be able to hide icons? |
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| 17:59.17 | cb400f | ewet: it is in 4.2 |
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| 17:59.31 | soccerjonp | yes, it already can |
| 17:59.47 | soccerjonp | right click > system tray settings |
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| 18:00.39 | ewet | cb400f: okay I'll wait for 4.3 to enter debian/testing then, thank you :-) |
| 18:00.45 | ewet | 4.2... |
| 18:01.10 | cb400f | pokes pusling ;-) |
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| 18:05.30 | der_soenke | i've issues with kontact/kmail, is this the right channel to talk about it? |
| 18:06.29 | annma | yes |
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| 18:08.05 | der_soenke | okay, the first is, that i can't quit kmail. its starting up again and again |
| 18:08.56 | annma | der_soenke: how do you quit it? |
| 18:10.27 | annma | der_soenke: ? |
| 18:10.30 | der_soenke | annma: different, via Strg+Q, via File->Close |
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| 18:10.54 | der_soenke | annma: or via the cross in the right upper corner |
| 18:11.09 | annma | the cross closes it |
| 18:11.15 | annma | it does not QUIT it |
| 18:11.25 | annma | close means hide the window |
| 18:11.38 | der_soenke | i've set a ldap-source (kolab) with akonadi for the adresses... could it be, thats therefore kmail is needed? |
| 18:11.41 | annma | so I guess you close it and when you get a new mail it reopens? |
| 18:12.20 | der_soenke | annma: it reopens directly after i try to quit it |
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| 18:12.47 | annma | might be the kolab, you need to ask in #kontact |
| 18:13.03 | annma | I am not qualified enough, maybe someone else is here? |
| 18:13.12 | ewet | just out of curiosity: will there be anything like prisma or google gears for kde/konqueror/khtml in the future? |
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| 18:13.51 | der_soenke | annma: i will ask there |
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| 18:14.20 | annma | sorry about that der_soenke |
| 18:14.33 | annma | tell them #kde is not qualified enough |
| 18:14.39 | der_soenke | but i have a second issue: when i delete unread mails, they appear again when i receive new mails |
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| 18:15.00 | der_soenke | by the way, im using kamil 1.11.2 with kde 4.2.2 |
| 18:15.11 | annma | you delete them locally? |
| 18:15.30 | der_soenke | annma: yes, in kmail. |
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| 18:15.40 | annma | the mail is stroed locally? |
| 18:15.46 | annma | stored |
| 18:15.57 | der_soenke | annma: no, its on my ldap-server |
| 18:16.06 | annma | so it's not really deleted |
| 18:16.49 | annma | you also need to ask #kontact about it |
| 18:16.55 | der_soenke | annma: no, but kmail should say it to the server ;-) |
| 18:17.02 | annma | yes |
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| 18:17.13 | der_soenke | okay annma, i will ask there |
| 18:17.23 | annma | sorry about the ignorance |
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| 18:17.41 | der_soenke | and a third: kmail is verry slow, when its receiving mails from my imap-sevrer |
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| 18:18.49 | der_soenke | i think, its slowing down my whole system, even the courser starts to judder |
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| 18:19.15 | der_soenke | ans kmail needs 10 times longer than e.g. thunderbird with the same server |
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| 18:19.55 | der_soenke | annma: is this also food for #kontact? |
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| 18:23.05 | ewet | I meant rich internet apps on the kde desktop via konqueror (or else) - just in case I wasn't clear... |
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| 18:35.13 | wm4 | which nvidia drivers are recommended for use with kde4? |
| 18:35.40 | cga | hi all, what defines the color of the systemtray in plasma? (i want to customize a plasma theme with Aya colors for that). please thanks |
| 18:35.48 | cga | wm4: latest for you card |
| 18:35.57 | jazka | latest beta (185.19) works fine |
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| 18:36.06 | jazka | if it supports your card |
| 18:36.21 | cga | i run fedora 10 with kde 4 and nvidia installed from kmod-nvidia |
| 18:36.26 | cga | (not beta tough) |
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| 18:36.45 | wm4 | jazka: is it stable? i.e. did you run it for some weeks without reboots and crashes? |
| 18:37.04 | jazka | haven't had any crashes, and I've installed it when it came out |
| 18:37.20 | jazka | about two weeks ago |
| 18:37.49 | jazka | I suspend to ram at nights |
| 18:37.59 | wm4 | sounds good |
| 18:38.41 | jazka | http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1976912 |
| 18:39.23 | SSJ_GZ | cga: Try #plasma :) |
| 18:39.36 | cga | thanks SSJ_GZ |
| 18:39.39 | SSJ_GZ | np |
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| 18:59.49 | Ace2017_- | ok i think kmix needs a popup showing the volume which looks like amarok's transparent volume change notification, because it looks awesome |
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| 19:03.12 | Half-Left | Erm, no, not more screen spam :p |
| 19:03.57 | Vegita | :D |
| 19:04.06 | wm4 | disgusting |
| 19:04.20 | Ace2017_- | no its not, it looks awesome |
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| 19:04.38 | Half-Left | Don't make sense that you should have a notification of you changing the volume :p |
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| 19:04.55 | Ace2017_- | but amarok has it when i'm changing the volume |
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| 19:05.37 | Half-Left | Well thats their idea, not KDE's :) |
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| 19:06.16 | Half-Left | Thats what you have accessibility features for |
| 19:06.27 | Guest11821 | hey I'm trying to install something, and the instructions say "Build librtm first, then rtm-dataengine and finally the plasmoid." ...how do I build something? |
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| 19:06.56 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: you install it from the repo |
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| 19:07.18 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: what distro are you using? |
| 19:07.27 | Guest11821 | kubuntu |
| 19:07.48 | Ace2017_- | version? |
| 19:08.01 | Guest11821 | Ace201: its not in the repo...i had to download it from svn, and then "build" it...but I dont know what they mean or how to do it |
| 19:08.11 | Guest11821 | kubuntu the latest 9.04 |
| 19:08.16 | Ace2017_- | have you tried building it as normal? |
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| 19:09.01 | Guest11821 | Ace201: not sure what you mean by normal? |
| 19:09.14 | Guest11821 | here is the link with the instructions: http://blog.chatonka.com/2009/01/remember-the-milk-plasmoid-in-playground/ |
| 19:09.20 | beer__ | btw, there is a ubuntu release party on Ã
lborg/denmark at the 25 april. Gonna go there to promot kde |
| 19:09.27 | hoban | can kde4 span a single wallpaper image across multiple monitors? |
| 19:09.49 | aseigo | hoban: nobody has implemented that yet .. you have to manually set it yourself... |
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| 19:09.55 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: it gives you links to the librtm and rtm dataengine downloads |
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| 19:10.31 | hoban | aseigo, how would one "manually set it"? |
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| 19:11.11 | Guest11821 | Ace201: i've downloaded librtm and rtm dataengine.... |
| 19:11.22 | Guest11821 | Ace201:...but I guess i'm suposed to "build" them now... |
| 19:11.28 | aseigo | hoban: cut the paper in two, put one image on the one screen, the other on the other |
| 19:11.49 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: yup |
| 19:11.52 | hoban | aseigo, thanks |
| 19:11.53 | Kouma | Hello, are you something from CZECH? |
| 19:12.09 | Guest11821 | Ace201: ok...well that was my question originall...how do I do it? |
| 19:12.10 | aseigo | hoban: eventally someone is bound to do implement it though, i'm sure.. |
| 19:12.22 | aseigo | hoban: it gets asked after every so often and we have a feature request for it on b.k.o |
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| 19:12.44 | hoban | aseigo, great to know. thanks! |
| 19:12.48 | aseigo | hoban: just not a "have or die" sort of feature really, and it's one that is mildly easily to get "wrong" in the case of "interesting" screen layouts |
| 19:13.24 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: cd the directory, mkdir build, cd build, cmake .. make then sudo checkinstall -D |
| 19:13.54 | hoban | aseigo, that makes sense |
| 19:14.07 | hoban | especially with so many different types of multi-mon scenarios |
| 19:14.57 | Guest11821 | Ace201: thx, but I get this: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
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| 19:15.12 | Ace2017_- | did you do cmake ..? did it give any errors? |
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| 19:16.55 | Guest11821 | Ace201: cmake gives me http://paste.ubuntu.com/154896/ |
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| 19:17.12 | sheytan | Hi guys, what do ya think: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vNKxmokgKjU/SezJuzk224I/AAAAAAAAA0g/fP7tJWv2344/s1600-h/kde-evo.jpg |
| 19:17.25 | sheytan | done it today and want to share with ya :) |
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| 19:17.31 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: it should look like this: http://pastebin.com/d28db0149 |
| 19:18.18 | aseigo | sheytan: holy walk down memory lane |
| 19:18.41 | Ace2017_- | sheytan: need bigger screenshots |
| 19:18.55 | Guest11821 | Ace201:...hmm i wonder what the problem is |
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| 19:19.22 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: are you compiling librtm? |
| 19:19.27 | Ace2017_- | have you installed the dependencies? |
| 19:19.44 | sheytan | i've got ~5000px version, too. Can upload somwhere if you want |
| 19:20.17 | Guest11821 | Acd201: i guess, I'm not familiar with a lot of this linux lingo..sry, I thought compiling was the same as building... |
| 19:20.25 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: if you install kdebase-workspace-dev then it will get the deps you need |
| 19:20.45 | Ace2017_- | compiling is the same as building |
| 19:21.10 | Guest11821 | o ok, |
| 19:21.19 | Guest11821 | i'm install kdebase-workspace-dev now.. |
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| 19:21.41 | soccerjonp | sheytan, nice composition! |
| 19:21.58 | Ace2017_- | sheytan: please upload it, i want to see the details |
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| 19:23.23 | Guest11821 | Ace201: i've isntalled kdebase... |
| 19:24.21 | Ace2017_- | now you can run cmake .. from within librtm/build/ |
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| 19:29.13 | sheytan | Ace2017_-: uploading now |
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| 19:33.29 | sheytan | aseigo: i don't feel it cause of my 4gigs :D |
| 19:33.54 | sheytan | and i'm using kde from 3.4.x |
| 19:34.04 | Guest11821 | Ace201: I still get the same messages as before |
| 19:34.07 | Guest11821 | when I run cmake |
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| 19:34.35 | sheytan | so, here is link to the oryginal version in jpg http://www.sendspace.com/file/wzrj12 |
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| 19:35.06 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: can you pastebin the whole thing? |
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| 19:36.49 | Guest11821 | Ace201: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154904/ |
| 19:37.56 | sheytan | Guest11821: cmake ../ |
| 19:37.59 | sheytan | not cmake |
| 19:38.21 | Guest11821 | o ok...seems to have worked now |
| 19:38.32 | sheytan | then make, su or sudo and make install |
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| 19:39.13 | Guest11821 | ok thx...so thats all the mean by "build" |
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| 19:39.45 | sheytan | build is cmake and make, then make install just install the files to the system |
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| 19:47.41 | Guest11821 | I get this error when I try to do "make" for rtm-dataengine : "rtm/statictask.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:47.41 | Guest11821 | " |
| 19:47.52 | Guest11821 | i'm assuming thats a dependency issues? |
| 19:47.56 | Guest11821 | issue* |
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| 19:48.25 | pinotree | you need librtm from playground/libs |
| 19:48.42 | Ace2017_- | i thought Guest11821 just installed it |
| 19:48.50 | Guest11821 | I just installed librtm |
| 19:48.58 | Guest11821 | (unless I did it wrong) |
| 19:49.09 | Ace2017_- | maybe its in the wrong prefix? |
| 19:49.36 | Ace2017_- | run sudo updatedb then run locate statictask.h |
| 19:50.18 | sheytan | aseigo: some plans to deal with kinetic in plasma? |
| 19:50.22 | jcolby | Does anyone know if Kopete .70.2 running on KDE 4.2.2 can use an http proxy? |
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| 19:51.26 | Guest11821 | Ace201: I found it, but not in the rtm directory (usr/local/rtm/...) where librtm was installed |
| 19:51.35 | Ace2017_- | ah |
| 19:51.45 | Guest11821 | its located where I checked out the svn... |
| 19:51.59 | Guest11821 | does that mean it wasn't included in the installation when I did make install? |
| 19:52.41 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: you need to run cmake with /usr as the prefix, then make and sudo checkinstall -D to install librtm cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .. |
| 19:53.01 | Guest11821 | ok let me try again |
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| 19:53.16 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: don't use sudo make install, its better to do sudo checkinstall -D since you can uninstall the package, this way it asks for the name and version |
| 19:54.11 | Guest11821 | Ace201: so do "/usr cmake" from the librtm dir? |
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| 19:54.51 | sheytan | no, do : cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .. from the build dir, then make, and checkinstall -D |
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| 19:56.26 | Guest11821 | sheyta: sudo: checkinstall: command not found |
| 19:56.34 | Ace2017_- | install checkinstall |
| 19:56.36 | Guest11821 | i guess i'm supposed to install that |
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| 19:56.40 | sheytan | yes |
| 19:58.33 | Guest11821 | ok I did checkinstall, now do I run the deb that was made? or has it already installed it? |
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| 20:01.01 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: checkinstall creates the deb and installs it, so you can now go build the others |
| 20:02.43 | Guest11821 | Ace201: ok I see, well I'm trying to install rtm-dataengine, but i'm still getting the same error (statictask.h not found) when I run make |
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| 20:03.07 | Ace2017_- | well sudo updatedb and then locate it again |
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| 20:03.41 | Guest11821 | still located in the svn folder that I've checked out |
| 20:04.02 | Guest11821 | Ace201: what if I put it manually where it needs to be? |
| 20:04.11 | Ace2017_- | it won't work |
| 20:04.20 | Guest11821 | hm.m |
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| 20:04.52 | Ace2017_- | better to get it installed to the correct place |
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| 20:05.56 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: where did locate say it is in now? |
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| 20:06.30 | Guest11821 | Ace201: its located in the SVN folder that i've checkout on the desktop |
| 20:06.33 | aseigo | sheytan: yes, we'll be integrating it in over time |
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| 20:06.52 | Guest11821 | Ace201: i didn't move the the usr/include/rtm folder with the other files |
| 20:07.18 | sheytan | aseigo: good! But not in 4.3? |
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| 20:08.12 | Ace2017_- | run dpkg -L packagename, change package name to the name given to librtm when you ran sudo checkinstall -D, see if its installed and what files it has installed |
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| 20:08.32 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: run dpkg -L packagename, change package name to the name given to librtm when you ran sudo checkinstall -D, see if its installed and what files it has installed |
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| 20:10.05 | aseigo | sheytan: no |
| 20:10.05 | aseigo | sheytan: timing didn't work out |
| 20:10.05 | aseigo | sheytan: stuff for 4.4 |
| 20:10.05 | Ace2017_- | already planning 4.4? |
| 20:10.05 | Guest11821 | Ace201: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154923/ |
| 20:10.05 | FernandoLB | Hello. I am wondering when will Kde perhaps support pulseaudio by default. Any idea ? |
| 20:10.05 | sheytan | good anyway :D |
| 20:10.05 | Guest11821 | Acd201: it doesn't look like it installed it |
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| 20:10.13 | Ace2017_- | ah, it should give an error if it didn't install it |
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| 20:10.27 | elbryan | hi everybody. |
| 20:10.56 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: did you change the values so that they are correct, sometimes things like version have to be changed so that it starts with a number, and the name has to avoid conflicts with already installed stuff |
| 20:11.13 | elbryan | could someone explain me why I don't have "send webcam" and "receive webcam" buttons in kopete? I'm talking about version 4.2.2 (0.70.2 in the about form) |
| 20:11.14 | elbryan | thanks |
| 20:11.35 | Guest11821 | Acd201: i didn't change anything, should I run make again and checkinstall to see if it gives any errors? |
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| 20:11.41 | shodan45 | I somehow broke my slashdot login in konq (FF works fine)... how would I "fix" cookies? (KDE 4.2.2, opensuse 11.1) |
| 20:11.51 | Murray_B | Hi! If I want to design an iconset for kde, how can I find out the correct name the icon-file must have for a specific icon, e.g. the dolphin-icon is still the standard one, how can I found out the correct name of it? |
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| 20:12.28 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: run the cmake, make and sudo checkinstall -D and see if it installed correctly |
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| 20:13.24 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: actually try run cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .. then make clean, make and sudo checkinstall -D and see if it installed correctly |
| 20:13.46 | Half-Left | Murray_B: Just look at the Oxygen icon set |
| 20:13.48 | Ace2017_- | Murray_B: you can get help in #oxygen |
| 20:14.16 | Ace2017_- | the icon spec is actually missing some icons :( |
| 20:14.37 | Ace2017_- | when i last checked the spec didn't include sort icons |
| 20:14.47 | Murray_B | Ace2017_-: There is an icon spec?? Where? |
| 20:15.06 | Half-Left | freedesktop.org |
| 20:15.23 | Murray_B | Ah, thanks! |
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| 20:16.03 | Ace2017_- | Murray_B: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html |
| 20:16.05 | Guest11821 | Ace201: http://paste.ubuntu.com/154928/ seems like installation was successful but still did'nt copy taht file... |
| 20:16.53 | Ace2017_- | Guest11821: copy it over yourself to /usr/include/rtm/ |
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| 20:17.09 | Murray_B | Ace2017_-: Arggh! Many icons, but that was what I have been looking for, thanks! |
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| 20:17.56 | Ace2017_- | still think it needs sort by name,date,size and date icons to be added |
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| 20:18.04 | linux-hdtv | Hi, in KDE 3.5.9, i get: |
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| 20:18.06 | linux-hdtv | "Information - Konqueror The process for the file protocol died unexpectedly. Cancel Skip Auto Skip" |
| 20:18.22 | linux-hdtv | What happens if i choose "Auto Skip" ? |
| 20:18.37 | linux-hdtv | This is during a copy operation. |
| 20:18.48 | Ace2017_- | linux-hdtv: why are you using konqueror 3.5.9? 3.5.10 is the latest |
| 20:19.06 | linux-hdtv | Ace2017_-, Opensuse 11.0. |
| 20:19.07 | Ace2017_- | if you autoskip it doesn't overwrite existing files |
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| 20:19.49 | Ace2017_- | very strange, don't they update their repos? you'd think they'd update it since 3.5.10 is the last in the kde3 line |
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| 20:20.11 | linux-hdtv | maybe i need to check my version again. how would i do that ? |
| 20:20.42 | Ace2017_- | help > about |
| 20:20.42 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, opensuse 11.1 has been out for some time now |
| 20:21.34 | linux-hdtv | less then 6 months |
| 20:21.39 | elbryan | could someone explain me why I don't have "send webcam" and "receive webcam" buttons in kopete? I'm talking about version 4.2.2 (0.70.2 in the about form). Thanks |
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| 20:22.14 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, 6 months is "some time now" in linux-time imho ;) |
| 20:22.18 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: it was compiled without it? |
| 20:22.20 | linux-hdtv | thanks, Ace2017_-, they are still on 3.5.9 |
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| 20:22.35 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: I can have you a equery.. I'm running gentoo |
| 20:22.57 | elbryan | give to* |
| 20:23.19 | Ace2017_- | ??? |
| 20:23.23 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: http://dpaste.com/36031/ |
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| 20:23.49 | linux-hdtv | shodan45, thanks, i am preparing to switch to VectorLinux because Novell does not take open source seriously. |
| 20:23.59 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, ?? |
| 20:24.06 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, in what way? |
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| 20:24.59 | linux-hdtv | They made a pact with Microsoft and use Opensuse as their alpha for their enterprise version. |
| 20:25.30 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, same could be said of redhat these days :/ |
| 20:26.13 | sheytan | going to sleep. see ya guys |
| 20:26.27 | Half-Left | Redhat and fedora are different projects |
| 20:26.38 | linux-hdtv | right, shodan45, it very much looks like Microsoft is using black money to buy off people responsible for key Linux projects to subvert and sabotage them. |
| 20:26.39 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: did your webcam use to work in previous versions? |
| 20:26.59 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, and unfortunately, I typically find the xyz.2 releases to be far more "ready" for real use |
| 20:27.05 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: first installation. I'm using msn protocol |
| 20:27.35 | Ace2017_- | you can't receive a webcam video? |
| 20:27.40 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: no |
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| 20:28.02 | Ace2017_- | could be a NAT router/firewalling issue |
| 20:28.11 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: and the buttons disappear? |
| 20:28.33 | Ace2017_- | yea good point |
| 20:29.12 | Guest11821 | Can somebody please help me get this to work: http://blog.chatonka.com/tag/rtm/ I just can't get those things to build properly and I don't know what half those errors mean... |
| 20:29.20 | Ace2017_- | well does kopete see the webcam in the configuration dialogue? |
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| 20:29.29 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: yes. it works very well |
| 20:29.35 | Ace2017_- | Guest25422: pastebin the errors? |
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| 20:30.00 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, while I share your concerns about MS, I really don't think they're going to be successful |
| 20:30.14 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: doesn't kopete have multiple ways to connect? maybe you're using a way which doesn't support webcam use |
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| 20:30.31 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: dunno.. i'm here asking for help :D |
| 20:31.32 | shodan45 | linux-hdtv, imo, F/OSS is too "good" to be subverted like that |
| 20:31.45 | linux-hdtv | you are right, shodan45. |
| 20:33.46 | linux-hdtv | still, i am astonished that the best torrent app and by far the best ed2k/kad app for p2p are windows only, for example. |
| 20:34.07 | thiago_home | linux-hdtv: I wouldn't be |
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| 20:34.20 | thiago_home | it could be that most filesharers are on Windows |
| 20:34.22 | shodan45 | how do you "reset" cookies in konq? I can't stay logged into slashdot any more :( |
| 20:34.36 | MaNI | ktorrent is pretty good |
| 20:34.41 | shepherd | I like ctorrent |
| 20:34.44 | MaNI | I don't see much in it that could be better |
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| 20:35.52 | linux-hdtv | can it group your torrents by trackers ? |
| 20:36.12 | Ace2017_- | MaNI: can it blacklist trackers and ip addresses? |
| 20:36.25 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: try enabling webpresence |
| 20:36.36 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: ok I'll try |
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| 20:36.46 | MaNI | Ace2017_-, it has an ipfilter plugin |
| 20:37.58 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: oh wait its not what i thought it was |
| 20:38.31 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: i knew that.. but .. just something to try.. I don't know where to slam my head on |
| 20:39.29 | MaNI | Ace2017_-, as well as a manual ipfilter list |
| 20:39.35 | MaNI | so I guess so |
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| 20:39.45 | Ace2017_- | MaNI: like peerguardian? |
| 20:39.53 | MaNI | Ace2017_-, yes |
| 20:40.12 | MaNI | it can import peerguardian |
| 20:40.16 | MaNI | the ip filter plugin that is |
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| 20:42.46 | Ace2017_- | MaNI: hey look what i found, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ipblock-graphical-ip-blocker.html |
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| 20:43.31 | Ace2017_- | i wonder what the overhead of using a big blocklist with iptables is |
| 20:44.59 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: any clue? |
| 20:45.03 | elbryan | nobody? :P |
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| 20:46.16 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: does this help? http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=kopete%20webcam%20support |
| 20:46.44 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: what are you trying to connect to? |
| 20:46.55 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: connect to? |
| 20:47.01 | elbryan | I'm trying to show that buttons |
| 20:47.13 | Ace2017_- | where is the location of the other msn client that you are chatting with |
| 20:47.22 | elbryan | both Italian |
| 20:47.39 | Ace2017_- | both on different internet connections/ip addresses? |
| 20:48.03 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: yes |
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| 20:48.49 | linux-hdtv | Does Konqueror in KDE 4.2 have a field that serves as a filter for the files displayed ? |
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| 20:49.24 | shdw | hi |
| 20:49.27 | shdw | would it be possible to change source address in 'system settings add-on installer'? |
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| 20:49.36 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: and the other system has a working tested webcam? does your system get on msn webcam chat on windows with the other system without any problems? |
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| 20:49.51 | elbryan | yes we are chatting using skype |
| 20:49.53 | linux-hdtv | Does Dolphin in KDE 4.2 have a field that serves as a filter for the files displayed ? |
| 20:49.55 | elbryan | both cams works |
| 20:50.03 | Ace2017_- | but skype isn't msn |
| 20:50.06 | Vegita | ys it has |
| 20:50.10 | Vegita | but have to set up |
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| 20:50.14 | Ace2017_- | did msn work in windows? |
| 20:50.16 | elbryan | ah sorry, msn? no.. msn seems to doesn't work |
| 20:50.19 | Vegita | basically it doesn't |
| 20:50.19 | linux-hdtv | thanks, Vegita, how ? |
| 20:50.22 | Vegita | configure dolphin |
| 20:50.25 | elbryan | Ace2017_-: yes.. on a virtual machine |
| 20:50.28 | Vegita | in it's menu |
| 20:50.33 | linux-hdtv | thanks |
| 20:50.46 | Vegita | startuo/show filter bar |
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| 20:50.57 | Ace2017_- | elbryan: so msn doesn't work on windows or linux? |
| 20:51.05 | pinotree | elbryan: the new msn plugin in kopete/kde4.2 (called WLM) has no webcam support yet |
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| 20:51.07 | elbryan | on linux with emesene Ace2017_- |
| 20:51.19 | elbryan | pinotree: uhm grazie pino :) |
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| 20:51.34 | pinotree | elbryan: that's why you don't have send/receive webcam buttons |
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| 20:51.58 | elbryan | pinotree: I can see much clearer now that you tell me that :) |
| 20:52.08 | shdw | would it be possible to change source address from kde-look.org to something else in 'system settings add-on installer'? |
| 20:52.24 | pinotree | shdw: no |
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| 20:53.31 | Ace2017_- | shdw: tried messing with hosts? |
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| 20:53.51 | Ace2017_- | pinotree: do the apps authenticate at all with kde-look? |
| 20:54.05 | pinotree | there's no authentication |
| 20:54.25 | shdw | i just want to tweak the existing address with maybe some query strings... |
| 20:54.46 | pinotree | that would be insecure |
| 20:54.59 | Ace2017_- | proxy? |
| 20:56.21 | Ace2017_- | couldn't something like proximitron do it? |
| 20:58.37 | shodan45 | anyone else unable to stay logged in to slashdot in konqueror 4.2.2? |
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| 20:59.33 | StGermane | hello |
| 20:59.44 | StGermane | I was playing with the settings in kde4 |
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| 21:00.11 | StGermane | and changed something that was supposed to change to screen magnification, I think |
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| 21:00.24 | StGermane | I got a few warnings |
| 21:00.37 | StGermane | that there could be conflicts with the mouse |
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| 21:00.50 | StGermane | I thought I had it set to NOT havev conflicts |
| 21:01.10 | StGermane | but I seem to have the conflicts, as the cursor will not move |
| 21:02.02 | StGermane | I've tried different user accounts, they all are the same way |
| 21:02.17 | StGermane | I tried resetting kde, no help |
| 21:02.21 | Ace2017_- | what exactly were you messing with? |
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| 21:02.48 | Ace2017_- | StGermane: tried restarting the system and going into a fresh account? |
| 21:03.08 | StGermane | I tried shutting down X and looking for a config file, no success |
| 21:03.18 | StGermane | yes, I have done that, Ace2017_- |
| 21:03.40 | Ace2017_- | tried removing ~/.kde and ~/,kde4 |
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| 21:03.49 | ericP | the default keyboard shortcuts for next/previous view (read: tab) in konsole are ^-PgUp, ^-PgDn respectively |
| 21:03.51 | Ace2017_- | wait when was the last time you udpated kde? |
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| 21:03.55 | StGermane | no, Ace2017_- |
| 21:04.03 | ericP | this is contrary to firefox/mozzila, which sets a pretty strong precedent |
| 21:04.09 | Ace2017_- | maybe you updated something and it took effect |
| 21:04.29 | StGermane | I've been updating with the distro's tools, Ace2017_- |
| 21:04.36 | ericP | anyone know of the PgUp-to-go-right-one-tab mime is common in kde? |
| 21:04.52 | Ace2017_- | thinks a bad update might have happened |
| 21:04.57 | Ace2017_- | StGermane: what distro? |
| 21:05.05 | StGermane | Mandriva 2009.0 |
| 21:05.08 | Ace2017_- | +version |
| 21:05.21 | Ace2017_- | isn't that old? |
| 21:05.35 | StGermane | No, 2009.1 is in RC2, n ow |
| 21:05.35 | Ace2017_- | ah 2009.1 is still in testing |
| 21:06.04 | Ace2017_- | tried to see any mandriva users had issues with it? |
| 21:06.24 | StGermane | yes |
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| 21:06.39 | StGermane | but I was not successful there |
| 21:07.00 | StGermane | partly because I'm not quite sure where I changed the setting :) |
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| 21:07.16 | StGermane | It might have b een under 'tool' |
| 21:08.02 | StGermane | running krunner and system settings gives me a different window than the one I changed things with |
| 21:08.25 | pothibo | is there an applet that exist that manages internet connection like knetworkmanager does for kde3 Ã |
| 21:08.26 | pothibo | ? |
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| 21:09.21 | [mors] | hi folks |
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| 21:09.26 | [mors] | which app can I use to check if my mic is working ? |
| 21:09.35 | Ace2017_- | audacity? |
| 21:10.20 | thiago_home | arecord |
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| 21:15.34 | shodan45 | anyone else able to reproduce slashdot login not "sticking" after closing & reopening konq? |
| 21:15.46 | shodan45 | just made a new user & tried that, same problem :( |
| 21:16.42 | [mors] | thiago: thanks ! you know a quick way to make arecord more friendly ? |
| 21:16.50 | [mors] | like arecord > /dev/snd/... |
| 21:17.00 | [mors] | I'm not getting it to work like that |
| 21:17.08 | [mors] | saving o file is boring |
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| 21:18.43 | thiago_home | whenever I want to test if it's working, I just run arecord |
| 21:18.55 | thiago_home | if it outputs anything other than @ while I make sounds, it's working |
| 21:19.40 | StGermane | Nope, the mv .kde4 and start and stop dm didn't help |
| 21:19.50 | [mors] | alsamixer did the trick |
| 21:19.54 | [mors] | it was one of the volumes |
| 21:20.12 | [mors] | I thought there was a nice small recording program like in gnome hence the question |
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| 21:21.31 | StGermane | Am I really going to be stuck with a OS reinstall for this? |
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| 21:38.40 | dpf2 | It's early enough in the start of X, that is I go init 5 to get the graphical X start screen, the cursor is frozen there, so I can't select the icon to allow other window managers |
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| 21:39.43 | StGermane2 | so the conflict that kills the mouse is early in the X startup |
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| 21:55.39 | cga | hi all |
| 21:55.41 | cga | i removed the panel for it was all scrumbled and now i don't know how to add one. |
| 21:55.43 | cga | help please thanks |
| 21:56.33 | soccerjonp | right click on the desktop and unlock the widgets if they are locked |
| 21:56.49 | soccerjonp | then right click on the desktop again and do Add Panel |
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| 21:56.55 | cga | they are not locked atm |
| 21:56.57 | cga | and there's no panel in the plasmoids |
| 21:57.06 | cga | tried that already |
| 21:57.11 | cga | that's why i'm asking |
| 21:57.13 | soccerjonp | there is Add Widgets and Add Panel |
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| 21:57.19 | soccerjonp | you tried Add Panel? |
| 21:57.41 | cga | oh |
| 21:57.49 | cga | mmmm only widgets here |
| 21:57.52 | cga | no add panel |
| 21:58.00 | soccerjonp | which version of KDE do you have? |
| 21:58.02 | cga | at least in the cashew |
| 21:58.05 | cga | 4.2.1 |
| 21:58.45 | soccerjonp | no don't use the cashew... right click on the desktop |
| 21:58.46 | cga | ok |
| 21:58.49 | cga | done |
| 21:58.51 | cga | thanks |
| 21:58.52 | soccerjonp | cool |
| 21:58.56 | soccerjonp | np |
| 21:58.59 | cga | night night =) |
| 21:59.07 | burbuja | where can I see the exact kde version I have¿ |
| 21:59.13 | burbuja | I have 4.2 .... |
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| 21:59.21 | soccerjonp | go to help in any kde app |
| 21:59.23 | thiago_home | in any KDE application's About box |
| 21:59.42 | soccerjonp | and About KDE |
| 22:00.01 | burbuja | thanks |
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| 22:00.34 | burbuja | Versión 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2) |
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| 22:00.46 | burbuja | I dont get the mounting process |
| 22:00.56 | burbuja | with this widget |
| 22:01.20 | soccerjonp | click on the item you want to mount, and then click on the little eject icon to eject it |
| 22:01.22 | burbuja | I have to let the usb open in delfin |
| 22:01.34 | burbuja | soccerjonp: yes! |
| 22:01.39 | soccerjonp | ya, you want it to open in something besides dolphin? |
| 22:01.42 | burbuja | but the arrow was invisible |
| 22:01.45 | soccerjonp | haha, sorry if that was obvious |
| 22:02.05 | burbuja | I was searching this arrow 30 minutes |
| 22:02.10 | burbuja | it was not there |
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| 22:02.14 | soccerjonp | yes, you have to open it in dolphin to mount it |
| 22:02.19 | burbuja | ok |
| 22:02.26 | soccerjonp | maybe it's silly but that's how it is |
| 22:02.28 | burbuja | I let it open in dolfin |
| 22:02.31 | soccerjonp | yup |
| 22:02.33 | burbuja | but it opens in konqueroro |
| 22:02.52 | burbuja | it seems very unlogic for me |
| 22:03.02 | burbuja | it should be mounted automaticly |
| 22:03.07 | burbuja | while plugging it |
| 22:03.12 | burbuja | no? |
| 22:03.35 | soccerjonp | yeah, mabye, but I don't know why they made the decision |
| 22:03.51 | burbuja | do you understand what I mean, right? |
| 22:04.07 | soccerjonp | yes |
| 22:04.14 | burbuja | :) |
| 22:04.14 | soccerjonp | I agree with you |
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| 22:04.28 | burbuja | I had acess to the usb without beeing mointed |
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| 22:04.42 | burbuja | which sounds like nonsence |
| 22:04.49 | burbuja | but this is true |
| 22:06.17 | burbuja | when I click Open with Dolfin, it should open in Dolfin and not in Konqueror |
| 22:06.28 | burbuja | any idea how to fix it? |
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| 22:11.41 | Half-Left | burbuja: Is dolphin set as the default file manager? |
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| 22:11.59 | burbuja | let see |
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| 22:12.46 | burbuja | yes it is |
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| 22:23.10 | burbuja | Half-Left: |
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| 22:24.13 | Half-Left | weird |
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| 22:25.01 | burbuja | Half-Left: are you able to change the color of the bottom-bar? |
| 22:25.04 | burbuja | taskbar |
| 22:25.08 | burbuja | or what ever |
| 22:25.18 | burbuja | I neede 2 days |
| 22:25.23 | burbuja | to find it out |
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| 22:29.29 | Half-Left | You can't, Aye plasma theme is the theme that uses the KDE colour settings |
| 22:30.01 | Half-Left | unless you change the svg manually |
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| 22:34.04 | burbuja | where can I change the svg? |
| 22:34.06 | burbuja | :O |
| 22:34.41 | burbuja | I was very said about kde's global shortcuts |
| 22:35.34 | Half-Left | It's a graphic file but you need do know about how to change the colour of it |
| 22:36.10 | burbuja | where is ti please? :P |
| 22:37.26 | Half-Left | KDEDIR/apps/desktoptheme/default |
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| 22:38.53 | Half-Left | If your using desktop effects it's /widgets/panel-background.svgz |
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| 22:39.10 | Half-Left | You're* |
| 22:39.28 | yetifoot | hi, i'm getting a popup message that my audio card is not working, and it's falling back to default, looking in the multimedia section of settings, I can't see how to disable the ones that aren't working. Also it seems to lock up the sound system, after i did some text to speech in konq, all other sound won't work, anyone have clues/help? I'm using KDE 4.2.2 on debian |
| 22:40.13 | burbuja | thank you |
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| 22:43.28 | [mors] | hey, when I press the K button to get the apps menu, the search field is not focused. More, clickng outside the menu does not hide it. |
| 22:43.33 | [mors] | is that by design ? |
| 22:43.37 | [mors] | I hope not :) |
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| 22:45.05 | lordgorthaur | Which version? I can start typing right away in the search-field, and the menu goes away if I click on the desktop (KDE 4.2.2) |
| 22:45.36 | Half-Left | [mors]: It's a bug, it's fixed upstream |
| 22:45.49 | [mors] | Half-Left: both ? |
| 22:46.05 | Half-Left | I believe so |
| 22:46.08 | [mors] | great |
| 22:46.19 | burbuja | upstream :O |
| 22:46.25 | burbuja | 4.2.3? |
| 22:46.34 | Half-Left | It's fixed in distros that are readying their final release |
| 22:46.41 | [mors] | eta for 423 ? |
| 22:46.52 | [mors] | or are you working on 43 ? |
| 22:46.54 | burbuja | Half-Left: I am on sid |
| 22:47.03 | burbuja | is it in the repo? |
| 22:47.18 | Half-Left | Most lightly be fix in their later builds then |
| 22:47.44 | pinotree | 4.2.3 is at the start of may |
| 22:47.49 | Half-Left | We don't answer packing questions, I just happen to know that |
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| 22:49.22 | burbuja | Half-Left: is there a bug with global shortcuts? |
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| 22:49.41 | burbuja | it seems a lot of people have problems with disabling them |
| 22:49.57 | Half-Left | No idea |
| 22:49.59 | unop_ | Hey everyone - I've got a very strange problem with dolphin, when I have a dolphin window in focus - this happens : http://www.litetext.com/dwm4 |
| 22:50.45 | unop_ | as far as i can see this happens only with dolphin and when it is in focus |
| 22:52.00 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
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| 22:52.24 | Ace2017_- | anyone know what causes the grey text in the selection? it should be white like other selections: http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1284/windowborder63.png |
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| 23:03.37 | Half-Left | Ace2017_-: Looks like your colour theme |
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| 23:07.31 | Ace2017_- | Half-Left: can't figure out which colour is doing it |
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| 23:13.38 | Half-Left | Ace2017_-: colours>Colours>Colour Set?View>Normal text |
| 23:13.55 | Half-Left | >* |
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| 23:14.32 | Ace2017_- | wait, why would normal text be used there? its a selection |
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| 23:16.46 | Gargolas | hello |
| 23:17.13 | Ace2017_- | hi |
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| 23:17.37 | Half-Left | Don't make other problems until you solve that one |
| 23:17.43 | Gargolas | hello |
| 23:18.05 | Ace2017_- | Half-Left: make other problems? |
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| 23:45.23 | computer | Can I copy all the KDE settings from one user to another? I installed a LiveCD to disk and I want to copy all the application menus and settings over from the "root" account, which is what the LiveCD used. |
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| 23:45.46 | computer | I created a regular user with adduser and the application menus are all mixed up. |
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| 23:46.27 | [mors] | computer: I do that often and it works for me |
| 23:46.33 | [mors] | just copy the home folder |
| 23:46.47 | computer | [mors], I copied the home folder already to no avail |
| 23:46.52 | [mors] | might be one or two things that break if you use diff account names |
| 23:46.53 | computer | Restarted X |
| 23:47.04 | computer | Yeah, nothing really carried over. |
| 23:47.20 | [mors] | how did you copy the home folder ? |
| 23:47.35 | [mors] | d&d ? cp -r * ? |
| 23:48.16 | computer | cp -R /root /home/user |
| 23:48.31 | computer | or yeah, cp -R * /home/user |
| 23:48.38 | [mors] | yeah |
| 23:48.47 | [mors] | * does not pick up hidden (with dot) folders :p |
| 23:48.51 | [mors] | check it |
| 23:48.51 | computer | nice |
| 23:48.52 | [mors] | echo * |
| 23:49.09 | [mors] | do |
| 23:49.14 | [mors] | cp -r .* |
| 23:49.19 | [mors] | that one works |
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| 23:50.15 | computer | I did cp -R /root /home/user |
| 23:50.17 | computer | no avail |
| 23:51.12 | drantin | but did you remember the . before the * ? |
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| 23:51.42 | burbuja | when I do enter on an zip archive, I wont to enter in it. How can I setup this please? |
| 23:51.57 | burbuja | like it were a folder |
| 23:52.16 | burbuja | I love this behavior from kde 3.5.10 |
| 23:52.22 | burbuja | krusader |
| 23:52.28 | drantin | kio_zip isn't working? |
| 23:52.43 | burbuja | probably not |
| 23:52.51 | burbuja | it is asociated with arc |
| 23:53.28 | burbuja | it used to open in the krusader panell itself |
| 23:53.38 | burbuja | like a folder |
| 23:53.41 | burbuja | the same way |
| 23:54.19 | burbuja | it opens in ark |
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| 23:55.17 | drantin | or is it kio_archive in kde 4 now... |
| 23:55.54 | burbuja | drantin: please what hae I to do? |
| 23:56.14 | burbuja | install it? |
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| 23:58.27 | drantin | it should have been part of kdebase-runtime, but if it's not doing what it needs to be, then I don't know what to do to fix it... |
| 23:59.07 | burbuja | konqueror works right |
| 23:59.18 | burbuja | if it helps you |
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