| 00:01.02 | dartmouth | i wanted to run it by someone more familiar with how qt4 works I don't mess with it. |
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| 00:02.48 | macavity | dartmouth: collect a lot of links about it and mail patrick about it |
| 00:04.48 | dartmouth | what's the best email to use for that kind of stuff? I'm sure his email's not public. is it? |
| 00:05.10 | macavity | volkerdi@slackware.com |
| 00:05.16 | dartmouth | guess so. k. |
| 00:05.37 | macavity | be sure to include releveant info... or it *will* go to /dev/null |
| 00:06.15 | dartmouth | yeah im gonna have to do some R&D ('research and drinking") |
| 00:06.36 | macavity | just dont D&T when Pat is at the other end ;-) |
| 00:06.47 | dartmouth | D&T? |
| 00:06.50 | dartmouth | drink and type? lol |
| 00:06.54 | dartmouth | haha. no way man. |
| 00:06.56 | macavity | yop :P |
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| 00:07.24 | dartmouth | I used to do that all the time. College was a learning experience :P (I'm cpunches) |
| 00:07.49 | evilmegaman | hey how do I extend the... well whatever used to be called the kicker |
| 00:08.38 | evilmegaman | In KDE 4. like, i changed the resolution but the bar is the same length as it was before |
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| 00:11.42 | mase_work | evilmegaman: you drag it |
| 00:11.49 | mase_work | hit the little caschew |
| 00:12.01 | mase_work | and that puts it into configuration mode |
| 00:12.07 | mase_work | and then you can use the handles |
| 00:12.15 | mase_work | to drag it to the size you want |
| 00:13.10 | macavity | it is the bottom "drager" that adjusts its minimum lenght, and the top one that adjusts the maximum length |
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| 00:14.16 | evilmegaman | caschew? |
| 00:15.19 | evilmegaman | like there's no handles and no cashew |
| 00:15.20 | macavity | on the left end there is a little funny thing that looks like, well... a splash of something, or if you will, a caschew nut |
| 00:15.43 | evilmegaman | oh! |
| 00:15.44 | evilmegaman | found it |
| 00:15.51 | evilmegaman | got it :D thanks |
| 00:16.04 | Caldavien_ | I would have called it half a yin yang |
| 00:17.05 | evilmegaman | maybe it needs a name? |
| 00:17.18 | Caldavien_ | seems like it should already have one doesnt it |
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| 00:17.42 | Caldavien_ | but yes it does need one |
| 00:20.39 | dartmouth | macavity: can I verify what version of qt4 youre running please? |
| 00:21.24 | dartmouth | and also what kernel you're running, I have a theory I want to test out. |
| 00:21.28 | mase_work | there was someone who called it a caschew nut in a bug report which aseigo picked up on and so pretty much after he wrote about it, it forever became the caschew :) |
| 00:21.36 | macavity | dartmouth: qt-r948357-i486-1 |
| 00:21.56 | macavity | dartmouth: generic-smp-2.6.29.2-smp |
| 00:22.25 | macavity | mase_work: thx for the info.. i was wondering what to call it :P |
| 00:23.13 | dartmouth | ok it's not the qt4 then |
| 00:23.24 | dartmouth | and def not the kernel |
| 00:23.56 | macavity | dartmouth: i just ran "slackpkg upgrade-all" a few hours ago, so you can pretty much guess my versions :P |
| 00:23.57 | dartmouth | are you on 4.2.2? |
| 00:24.03 | dartmouth | yeah same here |
| 00:24.22 | dartmouth | well shoot. |
| 00:25.09 | macavity | dartmouth: have you tried renaming .kde* or tried over with another user account? |
| 00:25.33 | dartmouth | no i haven't but i'll do that right now. |
| 00:25.35 | macavity | dartmouth: i surely hope you have not attempted to use your .kde from the 3.x series :P |
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| 00:26.01 | dartmouth | haha. who, me? hehe. hah. *ahem* |
| 00:26.07 | dartmouth | tiptoes away |
| 00:26.12 | macavity | pads dartmouth on the back |
| 00:26.31 | macavity | someone forgot to read the changelog about the KDE4 merge, huh? :P |
| 00:26.56 | dartmouth | Dude if I knew how to read I'd be on FreeBSD :P |
| 00:27.16 | dartmouth | burrrrrn |
| 00:27.22 | dartmouth | ok im trying with a new user |
| 00:27.24 | dartmouth | brb |
| 00:27.24 | macavity | well.. you learned the lesson.. if you run -current you are supposed to know *everything* that has gone into the ChangeLog.txt since last release :P |
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| 00:27.55 | dartmouth | i wish my brain would work like that. i have to smack my head off things until they fall into the order i need it to be in |
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| 00:37.14 | dartmouth | ah ha! macavity: testuser has a working systray-- i removed .kde in my main user's dir, logged in, and it launched stalonetray automatically still though; I kill stalonetray and get no systray being filled out :*( |
| 00:37.45 | dartmouth | weird because i have not set stalonetray to launch automatically that was an xfce thing I did |
| 00:37.47 | macavity | O_O |
| 00:38.01 | macavity | do you have some session data or some such? |
| 00:38.04 | dartmouth | pretty sure xfce and kde4 dont use the same session data |
| 00:38.23 | dartmouth | i cant even find the session data for kde4 i assume its all in the .kde/autostart dir |
| 00:38.27 | macavity | here is an idea: move each and every dotfile and dotdir to a backup location |
| 00:38.50 | macavity | no, autostart is for things that are not session aware, but you want them to start anyway |
| 00:39.30 | macavity | .kde/share/config/sessions/* |
| 00:39.38 | macavity | .kde/share/config/session/* |
| 00:39.41 | macavity | ^^ |
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| 00:40.05 | dartmouth | its just not there... |
| 00:40.20 | macavity | have you logged out yet? |
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| 00:40.29 | macavity | that is, as your regular user? |
| 00:40.33 | dartmouth | yeah |
| 00:40.36 | macavity | KDE saves sessions on logout |
| 00:40.53 | dartmouth | im going to remove those dirs manually as root after i log out and let kde regenerate them |
| 00:41.00 | dartmouth | rm -r .kde |
| 00:41.10 | dartmouth | there's nothing in there i need |
| 00:41.44 | macavity | also .kderc :P |
| 00:41.48 | dartmouth | yup |
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| 00:41.51 | dartmouth | brb |
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| 00:42.13 | elvis1 | hello |
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| 00:42.37 | elvis1 | have Kestion (ahah) |
| 00:42.48 | elvis1 | kde4 is very slo |
| 00:42.49 | elvis1 | slow |
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| 00:43.36 | macavity | elvis1: then use something else |
| 00:43.44 | macavity | elvis1: fluxbox is pretty snappy |
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| 00:43.47 | elvis1 | i love the look of kde4 |
| 00:44.04 | elvis1 | yeah but it is strange |
| 00:44.08 | macavity | then get a faster machine.. and/or stay away from kubuntu |
| 00:44.09 | burbuja | :'( |
| 00:44.12 | burbuja | hi there |
| 00:44.19 | elvis1 | my machine is fast |
| 00:44.22 | burbuja | how can I mount a CD? |
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| 00:44.29 | macavity | burbuja: distro? |
| 00:44.32 | elvis1 | and i didn't use kubuntu |
| 00:44.37 | burbuja | kde 4.2 |
| 00:44.45 | burbuja | debian |
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| 00:45.05 | burbuja | it does not show up files |
| 00:45.08 | burbuja | :( |
| 00:45.08 | macavity | burbuja: doesnt it show up in the "recently plugged in" thingie next to the K menu? |
| 00:45.09 | dartmouth | yusssss! |
| 00:45.20 | burbuja | yes it is there |
| 00:45.28 | macavity | burbuja: click on it.. |
| 00:45.40 | dartmouth | good thing i didn't send that email. |
| 00:45.42 | burbuja | yes but the files does not appear |
| 00:45.44 | elvis1 | switch to gnome ;) that's more stable and it's automount cd |
| 00:45.51 | burbuja | *do not appear |
| 00:46.02 | macavity | burbuja: open konsole |
| 00:46.08 | burbuja | yes |
| 00:46.13 | macavity | burbuja: type: mount |
| 00:46.26 | burbuja | macavity: but this thingy show is it mounted |
| 00:46.30 | macavity | burbuja: do you see any thing like /media |
| 00:46.36 | burbuja | yes |
| 00:46.46 | burbuja | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:46.51 | burbuja | but it is empty |
| 00:47.09 | macavity | burbuja: ok, so you question is not how to mount it, but rather how to make debian work right with a CDROM that is obviously problematic? |
| 00:47.24 | burbuja | yes |
| 00:47.31 | burbuja | the problem is in kde4.2 |
| 00:47.46 | burbuja | I checkt the burned CD on xp - it works |
| 00:47.56 | macavity | burbuja: cd /media/cdrom |
| 00:48.01 | macavity | burbuja: ls -a |
| 00:48.08 | macavity | burbuja: do you see output? |
| 00:48.28 | macavity | other than . and .. |
| 00:48.45 | burbuja | yes |
| 00:48.49 | burbuja | . and .. |
| 00:48.54 | burbuja | nothing more |
| 00:49.01 | macavity | then it is not KDE that has the fault |
| 00:49.23 | burbuja | I got something about fstab |
| 00:49.25 | burbuja | :( |
| 00:49.32 | burbuja | missing some entry |
| 00:49.38 | macavity | huh? |
| 00:49.48 | macavity | go talk to the debian guys then |
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| 00:50.32 | burbuja | :( |
| 00:50.51 | pembo13 | does Konsole in KDE4.2.2 support transparent backgrounds? |
| 00:50.51 | macavity | hey, i know sh*t about debian.. it is very different from slackware |
| 00:51.01 | macavity | pembo13: if your graphics stack does, yes |
| 00:51.13 | macavity | pembo13: that is, composite has to work on your particular graphics chip |
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| 00:52.26 | pembo13 | macavity: so the transparency for Konsole is now at the WindowManager level as opposed to a setting in Konsole? |
| 00:52.28 | pichus | konsole is transparent in my eeepc |
| 00:53.03 | pembo13 | pichus: i have a lot of transparnet stuff on.. but not Konsole |
| 00:53.11 | pembo13 | pichus: was wondering if there was an option i needed to turn on |
| 00:53.55 | macavity | pembo13: it has become "real" transparency now |
| 00:54.07 | macavity | pembo13: as in, you can see other windows behind it if you enable it |
| 00:54.08 | pembo13 | macavity: understood |
| 00:54.17 | pembo13 | macavity: how do i enable it? |
| 00:54.22 | macavity | pembo13: but no, it has nothing to do with kwin |
| 00:55.50 | macavity | pembo13: settings -> Edit current profile -> Apprance -> pick a color scheme you like -> Edit.. -> click on the transparncy thingies |
| 00:56.10 | pichus | it automatically detects if your setting is composite... like the 'backgorund transparency' automatically shows when composite is support. |
| 00:56.32 | pembo13 | ahh |
| 00:56.40 | pembo13 | macavity: i was missing that last step |
| 00:56.42 | pembo13 | thanks |
| 00:56.51 | pembo13 | i had gotten that far, but didn't think to edit the color scheme itself |
| 00:56.52 | pembo13 | thanks |
| 00:56.58 | macavity | any time |
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| 00:58.55 | pembo13 | maybe i can get help with my other KDE4 probs here as well .. |
| 00:59.10 | pembo13 | KMail just foobared it's (what I thought were) default keyboard shortcuts |
| 00:59.14 | macavity | well.. it is #kde, so why not :P |
| 00:59.23 | pembo13 | firstn't i couldn't Copy (Ctrl+C) |
| 00:59.26 | pembo13 | then i tried to reset it |
| 00:59.39 | macavity | i have had some problems with keyboard shortcuts too |
| 00:59.46 | pembo13 | copy works again, but 'Del' and Ctrl+Enter no longer delete and send email |
| 01:00.02 | macavity | it appears that the same short cuts have been exported both as global and "in app only" |
| 01:00.23 | macavity | that causes some confusion.. try and see if you can find them both and mingle a little with it |
| 01:00.45 | macavity | yakuake just gave me a minor headache with that one :P |
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| 01:01.22 | pembo13 | yah this is a new problem.. possibly borught on by an update |
| 01:02.42 | pembo13 | my PrintScrn no longer launces KSsnapshot either |
| 01:03.19 | macavity | oh, that doesnt work here either.. and i just did a clean install |
| 01:10.35 | pembo13 | macavity: interesting |
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| 01:10.49 | pembo13 | macavity: i mentioned it to one of the fedora-kde packagers.. but it worked for him |
| 01:11.04 | pembo13 | macavity: i can't find any global shortcuts assigned to Del or Ctrn+Enter |
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| 01:15.41 | doleyb | pembo13: sounds like you might have ubuntu 9.04 |
| 01:16.01 | pembo13 | doleyb: i defintely do not |
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| 01:22.28 | macavity | how do i get the tool tips on the task bar to go away? |
| 01:23.15 | macavity | i dont want big things to come up to tell me what i am about to click on... it was usefull the first time, now it is a nuisance :P |
| 01:23.43 | macavity | and google is slightly stubborn this time |
| 01:24.55 | Ace2017_- | macavity: what tooltips? |
| 01:25.14 | Ace2017_- | tooltips on the task manager? the tooltip of the application name? |
| 01:25.37 | pembo13 | macavity: i've tried and failed |
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| 01:30.40 | NOTFreenodeServe | KDE |
| 01:30.53 | Ace2017_- | KDE4 |
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| 01:38.45 | NOTFreenodeServe | KDE 4.2 |
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| 01:41.57 | andrea2030 | gconftool-2 is a gui configuration tool for gnome, is there a gui based configuration tool for kde4? |
| 01:42.01 | andrea2030 | or kde |
| 01:43.41 | NOTFreenodeServe | What do you mean by configuration tool? System Settings? |
| 01:44.03 | aib | how can i log a new user into a kde session remotely? |
| 01:44.26 | Jucato | andrea2030: none. because there is very little configuration that isn't already in each app's configuration dialogs. (gconftool is only useful because there are so many hidden settings in gnome) |
| 01:45.15 | capone | any idea why konsole is so slow and cpu consuming when maximizing ? |
| 01:46.30 | andrea2030 | how would i associate the irc protocol in konqueror to an application(quassel, konversation). would i need a script |
| 01:47.09 | peaches | aib: i think you want xdmcp |
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| 01:48.34 | aib | peaches, i just want to start the remote kde session, not actually use it |
| 01:48.44 | aib | start it from the command line, over ssh |
| 01:48.53 | aib | basically 'switch user' feature |
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| 01:52.42 | dartmouth | is there a way to get dolphin to require double-click selection instead of single-click? |
| 01:52.48 | dartmouth | thats driving me nuts |
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| 01:55.29 | Jucato | global KDE setting: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse |
| 01:55.57 | Klaus_Dieter | aib: ssh -X target |
| 01:56.02 | Klaus_Dieter | aib: startkde4 |
| 01:56.22 | aib | can you explain how that solves the problem? |
| 01:56.52 | Klaus_Dieter | aib: you log in as a new user remotely and then start a kde session |
| 01:56.52 | aib | that activates the 'switch user' feature? |
| 01:56.59 | Klaus_Dieter | 03:44 < aib> how can i log a new user into a kde session remotely? << |
| 01:57.07 | aib | that is not my only message |
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| 01:57.23 | Klaus_Dieter | and you pick you user by selecting as what user you ssh in |
| 01:57.29 | Klaus_Dieter | ssh rick@target |
| 01:57.33 | Klaus_Dieter | or ssh rob@target |
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| 01:57.48 | aib | hmm, but i use /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 01:57.53 | aib | (kubuntu) |
| 01:58.12 | Klaus_Dieter | i you want to use your kdm interface you want xdmcp |
| 01:58.15 | Klaus_Dieter | but it is not secure |
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| 01:59.35 | aib | thanks peaches & Klaus_Dieter |
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| 01:59.51 | Klaus_Dieter | that is why I suggest using ssh |
| 02:00.27 | aib | ssh -X and xdmcp together? |
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| 02:01.01 | scrash09 | anyone here a choqok twitter-client user? |
| 02:01.35 | Jucato | scrash09: me |
| 02:02.03 | Jucato | (although my last update of choqok from svn was march 27...) |
| 02:02.13 | Klaus_Dieter | aib: just ssh -X |
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| 02:02.27 | Klaus_Dieter | brrr twitter |
| 02:02.38 | scrash09 | Jucato: hi. my 1st time using it ... and for the life of me can't figure out how to "follow" a user from inside of choqok itself. sure, i can go to the twitter site, follow there, and see the tweets in choqok, but ... from inside, any hints? |
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| 02:03.28 | Jucato | scrash09: that feature is still in development. in the meantime, you can click on the small globe/web icon beside a name to go to that person's identi.ca/twitter page and follow from there |
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| 02:04.35 | scrash09 | Jucato: aha! so i'm not insane (well, not about THIS anyway ...). i'm used to "Tweetie" on OSX, which has that already. Thanks for clearing that up! |
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| 02:08.02 | begert | hey peoples, for awhile now I have not been able to log into a KDE session. KDM starts, I enter login stuffs and see the fun loading boxes, but right before it finishes my screen flashes and I am re-presented with the KDM login......any advice? |
| 02:08.20 | AHelper | I had that problem! |
| 02:08.31 | begert | howto fix? |
| 02:09.12 | dartmouth | great |
| 02:09.15 | dartmouth | something just happened |
| 02:09.23 | dartmouth | all i have are windows over a black screen |
| 02:09.29 | dartmouth | menu is gone |
| 02:09.30 | AHelper | I have no idea what i did... I thought I was crazy going through things and it worked. Hmm. Let me think |
| 02:09.35 | dartmouth | panel is gone |
| 02:09.38 | dartmouth | desktop is gone |
| 02:09.40 | begert | I tried creating a new user with no .kde4 stuff but it had the same problems |
| 02:09.52 | Jucato | dartmouth: Plasma probably died. Alt+F2, the run "plasma" |
| 02:09.54 | AHelper | dartmouth - You lost plasma process |
| 02:10.02 | AHelper | Yup |
| 02:10.17 | dartmouth | there we go thx |
| 02:10.24 | AHelper | begert - Try this |
| 02:10.24 | dartmouth | does plasma crash alot? |
| 02:10.31 | Jucato | nope. |
| 02:10.38 | Jucato | at least not a lot for me |
| 02:10.40 | AHelper | Ctr-alt-F2 |
| 02:10.48 | Jucato | though it probably depends on some widgets |
| 02:11.00 | AHelper | login with your stuff - dartmouth |
| 02:11.17 | dartmouth | login...with...my stuff....? |
| 02:12.34 | AHelper | On the KDE login screen, press Ctr-Alt-F2. This brings you to the console. Login with your user name and then (when prompted) with your password. You will be in bash. |
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| 02:13.08 | Jucato | dartmouth: AHelper was talking to begert :) |
| 02:13.14 | dartmouth | OH OK, THANKS I didn't KNOW you could switch to a TTY with... |
| 02:13.15 | dartmouth | oh |
| 02:13.17 | dartmouth | thx :) |
| 02:13.24 | Jucato | (misdirected) |
| 02:13.27 | dartmouth | lol |
| 02:13.33 | AHelper | Jucato - Got it wrong |
| 02:13.40 | AHelper | Talking to dartmouth |
| 02:13.45 | Jucato | hm? |
| 02:14.04 | Jucato | ok then. but dartmouth's problem has been fixed already |
| 02:14.09 | AHelper | OK, dartmouth. With me, I could not access ANYTHING. |
| 02:14.14 | Jucato | (when Plasma dies, you can still Alt+F2) |
| 02:14.39 | AHelper | NOW I'M LOST |
| 02:14.56 | Jucato | easy on the caps |
| 02:15.09 | AHelper | OK, I think I'm sane now. Begert! Follow the steps above ^ |
| 02:15.25 | AHelper | Ctr-Alt-F2 |
| 02:15.49 | Jucato | I guess he didn't want to wait :D |
| 02:15.58 | AHelper | Oh well. |
| 02:16.07 | AHelper | Have you had that problem? |
| 02:16.07 | dartmouth | his connection prob died |
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| 02:16.54 | AHelper | Begert! |
| 02:17.02 | begert | :P |
| 02:17.02 | AHelper | Ctr-Alt-F2 |
| 02:17.07 | begert | right |
| 02:17.15 | AHelper | Login with your username and password |
| 02:17.27 | AHelper | You'll be in bashg |
| 02:17.31 | AHelper | bash |
| 02:17.32 | begert | right |
| 02:17.49 | AHelper | Type 'cd /' |
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| 02:18.12 | AHelper | 'cd dev' |
| 02:18.27 | begert | ok |
| 02:19.19 | AHelper | trying to remember |
| 02:19.27 | begert | heh, take yer time |
| 02:19.29 | Jucato | um first... begert could you run this command and see whether is says true or false? kreadconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled |
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| 02:19.41 | Jucato | (you should run that as the user that can't login) |
| 02:20.21 | begert | um....I get nothing back? |
| 02:20.31 | Jucato | hmm... |
| 02:20.46 | AHelper | OK type : su -c 'chmod +rw *.*' |
| 02:20.51 | AHelper | This might help |
| 02:20.54 | Jucato | errr |
| 02:21.02 | AHelper | What does it say |
| 02:21.15 | dartmouth | is gwenview part of kde? |
| 02:21.23 | begert | one sec |
| 02:21.24 | Jucato | dartmouth: yes. kdegraphics |
| 02:22.10 | begert | asked for password...then does nothing once password entered |
| 02:22.22 | Jucato | I hope you know what you're doing AHelper... massive chmod of system directories might not be a great idea |
| 02:22.29 | AHelper | Good! Ctr-Alt-F1 |
| 02:22.32 | AHelper | Try loging in |
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| 02:22.54 | Jucato | (perhaps F7, not F1?) |
| 02:23.16 | AHelper | Jucato - For an odd reason, root denied me access to the hard-drive - F7 has not been activated yet |
| 02:23.27 | AHelper | F7 is switching users |
| 02:23.41 | Jucato | Ctrl+Alt+F7 is usually mapped to the first X display |
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| 02:23.48 | begert | should the chmod have been done in /dev? |
| 02:24.01 | Jucato | (so if he got stuck at the login screen, it should still be there) |
| 02:24.11 | AHelper | Yes. It was stated above. |
| 02:24.20 | AHelper | dev/ |
| 02:24.28 | Jucato | anyway, your call... afk mode |
| 02:24.33 | begert | right doube checking |
| 02:24.34 | AHelper | su -c 'chmod +rw *.*' |
| 02:24.42 | AHelper | IN /dev only |
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| 02:25.28 | AHelper | I will be back |
| 02:25.47 | begert | and so will I |
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| 02:31.11 | begert | AHelper: no go :( |
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| 02:48.35 | AHelper | Begert - I am here |
| 02:48.46 | AHelper | Do you have another account on the computer? |
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| 03:24.12 | izua | um hey. how can i start an application (kde) from console in maximized mode? |
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| 03:29.12 | AHelper | Type the name of the application into Konsole. |
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| 03:32.19 | peaches | izua: kstart |
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| 03:41.41 | izua | peaches: thanks |
| 03:42.00 | izua | i still have an issue though: kstart --maxmize okular [document] works from bash, but not from a script |
| 03:42.18 | izua | (a single bash script containing only that command) |
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| 03:50.57 | Jucato | izua: if that's going to be a permanent setting for all Okular windows, you can create an Application-specific window rule to start all Okulars maximized. in an Okular window press Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Special Application Settings |
| 03:51.46 | Jucato | the enable Maximize Horizontally/Vertically and set to "Force" (then check the checkbox at the end of those 2 lines) |
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| 04:00.48 | Tekno_Cowboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.06 | Tekno_Cowboy | I'm using KDE 4.2.2 |
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| 04:07.20 | mase_work | Tekno_Cowboy: you may need a dev package but which one i'm not sure |
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| 04:10.40 | izua | Jucato: hmm.. i guess that's an option |
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| 04:43.40 | jaem | I'm experiencing an identical rendering glitch on Gmail in both rekonq and Arora. I understand they both use webkit, so should I report this to the webkit folks, or the application devs? |
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| 04:51.26 | maycon | hi |
| 04:51.29 | maycon | ^ |
| 04:51.32 | maycon | ^^ |
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| 05:36.07 | missyjane | can anyone tell me how i can identify pio and kill it? |
| 05:37.17 | missyjane | :/ anyone? |
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| 05:37.50 | jaem | can you clarify? |
| 05:38.09 | jaem | what do you mean by "pio"? |
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| 05:39.07 | missyjane | well |
| 05:39.09 | missyjane | i mean kio |
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| 05:39.15 | jaem | oh |
| 05:39.18 | missyjane | because it says i have 4 connections to the ftp even though i dont |
| 05:39.26 | jaem | are you seeing this in ksysguard? |
| 05:39.47 | jazka | ctrl + esc and type kio |
| 05:39.47 | missyjane | not sure, i dont think i have ksysguard |
| 05:40.03 | jaem | ksysguard==System Monitor |
| 05:40.06 | missyjane | i see kio_file and kio_uiserver |
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| 05:41.51 | missyjane | should i get rid of it? |
| 05:41.59 | missyjane | i see it says klauncher and kdeinit in the command |
| 05:42.17 | jaem | I'm not actually sure |
| 05:42.35 | jaem | you could try it, and if Something Bad happens, not do it again ;) |
| 05:42.39 | missyjane | ;( |
| 05:42.45 | missyjane | i just wanna go into my ftp so badly |
| 05:42.48 | jaem | I have noticed that sometimes |
| 05:43.01 | jaem | wait - it doesn't let you at the moment? |
| 05:43.03 | jaem | hrm |
| 05:43.08 | missyjane | nope |
| 05:43.12 | missyjane | says i have 4 connections onto it |
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| 05:43.15 | missyjane | even though i have 0 connection |
| 05:43.20 | jaem | oh, that's what you meant |
| 05:43.21 | jaem | well |
| 05:43.56 | jaem | I don't know for sure, but as I said, you could try sending all the kio_ftp's a SIGTERM, and see what happens |
| 05:44.02 | jaem | but I don't know if that's advisable |
| 05:44.14 | missyjane | i can try that.. |
| 05:44.18 | missyjane | i dont know how to do a sigterm |
| 05:44.20 | jaem | okay |
| 05:44.31 | jaem | go into the System Monitor |
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| 05:44.37 | jaem | ctrl+esc |
| 05:44.44 | jaem | find the kio_ftp listings |
| 05:45.18 | missyjane | i t yped in kio_ftp |
| 05:45.19 | missyjane | nothing |
| 05:45.29 | jaem | try just kio |
| 05:45.49 | missyjane | ya just kio_file and kio_uiserver |
| 05:45.53 | jaem | hrm |
| 05:45.58 | jaem | I don't know what to say, then |
| 05:46.04 | missyjane | sigh |
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| 05:46.40 | jaem | for future reference, though, if you want to kill things politely, use SIGTERM (right-click, Send Signal -> Terminate) |
| 05:46.54 | missyjane | ooh |
| 05:47.14 | jaem | if doing it politely doesn't work, then you can try SIGKILL, which is essentially the equivalent of bashing its skull in with a pickaxe |
| 05:47.19 | jaem | more or less |
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| 05:47.57 | jaem | sorry I couldn't help |
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| 05:48.11 | missyjane | its ok |
| 05:48.12 | jaem | night |
| 05:48.12 | missyjane | ty so much for that |
| 05:48.16 | jaem | you're welcome |
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| 05:51.43 | SoylentYellow | Where can I find KGet for KDE 3.5? |
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| 05:54.43 | oneforall | ah he/she left |
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| 06:36.08 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 07:02.12 | ma3x | hi |
| 07:02.14 | ma3x | where is the config file for kmail |
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| 07:06.18 | doleyb | ma3x: maybe ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc |
| 07:06.35 | ma3x | let me have a look |
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| 07:08.40 | ma3x | and sysguard config file? |
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| 07:23.15 | jedahu | how stable are smoke's method and class ids over Qt upgrades? |
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| 07:33.13 | jedahu | anyone know? |
| 07:33.41 | aseigo | jedahu: from the perspective of the python/ruby/whatever code written using those bindings? |
| 07:34.03 | aseigo | jedahu: (and that's probably more a question for the bindings mailing list rather than the kde user's irc channel) |
| 07:34.03 | jedahu | yes |
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| 07:34.20 | aseigo | yes, from version to version it's quite stable |
| 07:34.21 | jedahu | ok, I tried #kde-bindings but no one's home |
| 07:34.42 | rmrfchik | damn... amarok skips tracks. |
| 07:34.49 | aseigo | no, the mailing list. kde-bindings@kde.org |
| 07:34.53 | jedahu | aseigo: so determining the method and class indexes at parse/compile time should be safe? |
| 07:34.59 | rmrfchik | if next track is shorter than current, amarok doesn't play it |
| 07:35.03 | aseigo | in any case, i've heard that they are more stable than the c++ abi has been even |
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| 07:35.38 | aseigo | jedahu: hm. i'm not famliar enough with the inner workings to answer that (nor know why you'd want to do that? :) .. ask on the bindings mailing list |
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| 07:35.56 | jedahu | ok, thanks |
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| 07:37.11 | jedahu | <aseigo> (nor know why you'd want to do that? :) <-- because it's simpler and faster than caching the index somewhere |
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| 08:49.41 | Tomasu | oh goodie: TLS/1.0 is required by the server, but is not available. |
| 08:49.46 | Tomasu | how do I go about fixing that? |
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| 09:24.07 | mamr | hi, I want to open systemsettings as root in order to configure samba, so I use 'kdesu systemsettings' |
| 09:24.29 | mamr | but everytime I apply something within the samba settings, systemsetting crashes and doesn't save my changes |
| 09:24.42 | mamr | is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? |
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| 09:27.54 | annma | mamr: please post in pastebin the backtrace |
| 09:29.49 | mamr | how do I get a backtrace? |
| 09:30.00 | annma | you have a crash |
| 09:30.08 | annma | doesn't KDE crash dialog pop up? |
| 09:30.12 | mamr | no |
| 09:30.16 | annma | it should |
| 09:30.25 | annma | you said systemsettings crashes |
| 09:30.29 | mamr | systemsettings just disappears and doesn't save my settings |
| 09:30.31 | annma | what distro? |
| 09:30.32 | comawhite | anyone ever managed to get gmail working with kmail? I can get my emails but I sure as hell can't send them |
| 09:30.34 | comawhite | :( |
| 09:30.36 | annma | disappear??? |
| 09:30.39 | mamr | archlinux |
| 09:30.48 | annma | ask in their channel please |
| 09:30.52 | mamr | comawhite: use the explanations from google for thunderbird |
| 09:30.54 | annma | systemsettings should not disappear |
| 09:31.02 | mamr | ok, anma, thanks though |
| 09:31.15 | mamr | comawhite: as far as I remember you have to change some ports |
| 09:31.20 | mamr | this is explained for thunderbird |
| 09:31.28 | comawhite | mamr: okay will do :) |
| 09:31.30 | mamr | I used the settings in kmail and everything works finde |
| 09:31.30 | comawhite | ty |
| 09:31.33 | mamr | fine |
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| 09:38.27 | scorpion | пÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ Ð²Ñем |
| 09:38.39 | comawhite | mamr: thanks it works now :D |
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| 09:39.27 | mamr | no problem |
| 09:39.27 | annma | scorpion: English only here |
| 09:39.46 | mamr | I should hang aroung here more often and help people :) |
| 09:39.49 | mamr | around |
| 09:39.52 | annma | mamr: whenyou get a backtrace for systemsettings crash you can show me |
| 09:40.04 | annma | so I can tell you what's wrong |
| 09:40.08 | mamr | ok, anma |
| 09:40.09 | scorpion | ok |
| 09:40.14 | annma | you can also run systemsettings through gdb |
| 09:40.14 | mamr | didn't get a backtrace |
| 09:40.22 | mamr | but I'm looking if I can get one, later |
| 09:40.31 | annma | and when it crashes you type bt in the gdb onterface |
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| 09:40.38 | mamr | lunch break is almost over :) |
| 09:40.39 | annma | and you get it |
| 09:40.39 | mamr | ok |
| 09:40.42 | mamr | thank you |
| 09:41.26 | devurandom | Hey everyone: I need to escape a keypress, so that it gets sent to the application and is not handled by KDE's global key shortcuts. Which key is used to escape a keypress sequence? |
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| 09:42.25 | scorpion | fedora forever |
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| 09:49.51 | zarquod | Hi. |
| 09:50.00 | comawhite | hi |
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| 10:04.00 | rmrfchik | I have logitech mouse with additional button. If I click this button on desktop (plasma?), kde switches to previous desktop. I can't find settings for this behaviour. I want to use button6 for other actions (expose). |
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| 10:07.05 | freeedrich| | rmrfchik: I think it's rather some mapping issue. |
| 10:07.31 | freeedrich| | rmrfchik: appearently it is mapped to MWHEEL_DOWN |
| 10:07.53 | freeedrich| | see what xev reports as keycode for that button and for mousewheel actions |
| 10:07.56 | rmrfchik | how mapped? |
| 10:07.59 | rmrfchik | aha... |
| 10:08.23 | rmrfchik | xev shows button 4/5 for wheel, and button 6 for side button |
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| 10:28.02 | greencookie | hi Im running jaunty and i installed kde (while removing gnome) and I dont have access to the internet(even from ethernet) can anyone help me out? |
| 10:31.33 | cb400f | you should prolly have the kde4 networkmanager plasmoid running? |
| 10:31.56 | cb400f | but you should really ask that in #kubuntu or somewhere.. sounds like a distro problem to me |
| 10:32.08 | greencookie | cb400f: it doesnt show me anything in notification panel. |
| 10:32.54 | greencookie | oh. I'll try, but i havent installed kubuntu. just gnome and 'sudo apt-get install kde && sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' |
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| 10:55.56 | sheytan | Hi, does anybody know if the contacts plasmoid will finally be in KDE 4.3? |
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| 11:01.41 | blauzahl | "contacts"? |
| 11:03.02 | half-Left | sheytan: Contracts for what and why do you think is should be "finally" in 4.3? |
| 11:03.51 | blauzahl | i don't see a plasmoid by that name in kdeplasma-addons |
| 11:05.05 | half-Left | contracts :p |
| 11:05.27 | half-Left | Contacts* it* |
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| 11:06.18 | half-Left | Yer, yer, the contracts plasmoid lets you up contracts out on your enemies :p |
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| 11:06.44 | nicon- | Hi. |
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| 11:06.50 | half-Left | Oh, man, it's not my day, my grammar has gone to pot |
| 11:06.59 | nicon- | Is anybody knows why global shorcuts does not work at JuK? |
| 11:07.35 | zak | is it possible to rotate the cube while moving a window?like the way we did it with compiz?is it possible to do that on kwin? |
| 11:07.52 | half-Left | Yes |
| 11:08.03 | zak | how? |
| 11:08.04 | half-Left | Enable Active Desktop boarders |
| 11:08.12 | zak | in kwin? |
| 11:08.18 | half-Left | yes |
| 11:08.36 | zak | in all effects section, |
| 11:08.37 | zak | ? |
| 11:08.46 | half-Left | In the kwin settings |
| 11:09.10 | half-Left | Window Behavior |
| 11:09.57 | Zarin | half-Left, you're missing a capital |
| 11:10.20 | szal | boarders? skateboarding on the desktop? :P |
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| 11:10.36 | half-Left | Zarin: Yer, I'm in flux at the moment |
| 11:10.58 | Zarin | half-Left, well get out of it please--it's freaking me out. |
| 11:11.26 | Zarin | :( |
| 11:11.44 | half-Left | reboots himself |
| 11:11.59 | zak | i did not find it sorry. in windows behaviour , what section should i look into? |
| 11:12.07 | Zarin | The last tab |
| 11:13.08 | zak | enable Hover? |
| 11:13.32 | Zarin | "Active desktop borders" |
| 11:13.37 | Zarin | Second choice |
| 11:14.08 | Zarin | That will allow you to rotate the cube by dragging a window to the edge |
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| 11:14.22 | Zarin | You might need to change the layout of your pager to a single row though |
| 11:14.45 | zak | i just have ''focus,titlebaraction, window actions; moving, Advanced ' |
| 11:14.57 | Zarin | It's in "advanced" |
| 11:15.13 | Zarin | Half-Left, all is now okay in the world. =) |
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| 11:15.23 | Half-Left | hahaha |
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| 11:15.52 | zak | Zarin: in Advanced i only have ''enable hover '' and ''placement'' |
| 11:16.02 | Half-Left | Zarin: Sorry, woke up a bit battered this morning :p |
| 11:16.33 | Zarin | Look at the box on the right zak |
| 11:17.10 | zak | hein? |
| 11:17.15 | zak | is really puzzeled |
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| 11:17.25 | zak | am i missing something or waht? |
| 11:17.36 | Zarin | Hmm, are you running trunk? |
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| 11:17.46 | Zarin | Then it's in System settings -> desktop -> screen edges |
| 11:17.47 | zak | yes |
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| 11:18.17 | Zarin | And you want to change the dropdown to the second option :) |
| 11:19.22 | zak | i just wanna make the cube rotate whime moving the window to the edge :) |
| 11:19.25 | tmcguire | Is there a KWin SoC project this year? |
| 11:19.34 | Zarin | tmcguire, window tabbing |
| 11:19.49 | tmcguire | ah, cool. |
| 11:20.01 | Zarin | And a student want to do window tiling for SoK as well |
| 11:20.41 | zak | :o |
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| 11:23.27 | Half-Left | What exactly is tiling? |
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| 11:23.48 | annma | lay out as tiles |
| 11:23.56 | annma | tiles on a floor |
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| 11:24.48 | Zarin | Half-Left, placing windows in such a way that they do not overlap |
| 11:25.28 | Half-Left | Zarin: Why is that so hard to do? |
| 11:26.04 | Zarin | Half-Left, it's hard to do properly |
| 11:26.09 | Half-Left | Seems like a feature people want and ask for |
| 11:26.12 | Zarin | And in a way that does not conflict with floating windows |
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| 11:30.43 | Half-Left | annma: I need more coffee to understand complex things like that :p |
| 11:31.19 | annma | ;) |
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| 11:31.54 | Half-Left | goes to look for the missing braincells in his bed |
| 11:32.07 | annma | bed? |
| 11:32.14 | annma | I thought you lived in the UK |
| 11:32.38 | Half-Left | I do |
| 11:32.45 | annma | nap time? |
| 11:32.52 | annma | or did you skip night sleep? |
| 11:32.55 | Half-Left | You think I live on the street or something? :p |
| 11:33.04 | annma | lol |
| 11:33.11 | annma | you wouldn't be on IRC |
| 11:33.35 | Half-Left | Bad night I think |
| 11:33.49 | annma | :( go get some rest |
| 11:34.04 | Half-Left | No idea why, maybe to late. I when to bed at about 1:30am |
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| 11:34.38 | annma | yes, a bit late |
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| 11:42.46 | ggergely | hello |
| 11:42.54 | ggergely | i have a question regarding kmail: |
| 11:43.07 | ggergely | is there a backup function in kamil? |
| 11:43.10 | ggergely | *kmail |
| 11:43.13 | ggergely | for options? |
| 11:43.21 | ggergely | and yes, i dop know tar :D |
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| 11:50.51 | MrSmith | Hello, i've the problem that no program i want to start via alt+F2 starts. xterm as example. when i start th kde-terminal in K-menu i can't type any letter in it. That means that i have no terminal at the desktop |
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| 11:52.58 | doleyb | MrSmith: uh oh you are in trouble. How are you typing in chat? |
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| 11:57.02 | ld50 | ggergely: ask in #kontact |
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| 12:00.19 | ggergely | ld50: thanks |
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| 12:05.46 | white_pelican | I need help with kde 4 |
| 12:06.25 | white_pelican | I messed up my panel settings |
| 12:07.05 | white_pelican | the icons are everwhere I don't want them, and it won't allow me to put them back where I want them just by moving them. How to I restore the defaults? |
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| 12:08.04 | cb400f | like this for example: "kquitapp plasma && rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma &" |
| 12:08.30 | cb400f | but if you can't move the icons maybe something more serious is wrong |
| 12:08.39 | DrSlony | Hey, instead of having the K menu in the panel, I would like to have links straight to each of the K menu dirs, so instead of the K I would have Education, Games, Graphics, Internet, Office, etc. Is this possible? |
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| 12:10.27 | cb400f | think not.. maybe you can add a handful of kickoffs with different favourites ;-) |
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| 12:13.40 | BtbN | Is there a way to enable intellisense and such stuff in kate? i don't want KDevelop, i dont need most if its features. |
| 12:13.47 | MrSmith | doleyb: I can start any program with K-menu, it works without problems , only the terminal doesn't world this way |
| 12:13.58 | MrSmith | But i cant start any program with alt+f2 |
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| 12:24.49 | capone | any idea why konsole is so slow and cpu consuming when maximizing its window? |
| 12:25.00 | capone | and how to possibly fix it :) |
| 12:25.18 | BtbN | here it works fine, do you have compositiong enabled? |
| 12:25.26 | BtbN | -o |
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| 12:33.20 | DrSlony | capone no but I had that too in the past, sort of fixed itself |
| 12:33.35 | DrSlony | using 4.2.2 now |
| 12:34.04 | capone | im on 4.2.2 too and its still there |
| 12:34.16 | capone | im thinking it might be nvidia related ? |
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| 12:35.38 | DrSlony | 180.51 here |
| 12:35.54 | samii | Anyone know how to install new window decorations for kwin in kde 4.2 (kubuntu 9.04) |
| 12:36.01 | DrSlony | could be buggy kwin or plasma, i get crashes with them at least once a week |
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| 12:36.28 | samii | BTW kde 4.2 on kubuntu is super duper sexy as hell :D |
| 12:36.32 | DrSlony | excluding kwin almost always crashing right after i log in |
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| 12:39.10 | samii | installing kwin themes anyone? |
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| 12:44.18 | capone | DrSlony: im even on 185.19 because 180 worked weird on 3.5 i guess i will rollback and see :) |
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| 12:45.16 | DrSlony | good luck :] |
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| 13:00.09 | capone | DrSlony: partial success, maximizing is still 1sec long, but its 'fluid' now, however to make it work instant i appended --notransparency, and now its perfect |
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| 13:00.53 | DrSlony | capone oho, my konsole uses no transparency by default |
| 13:01.26 | capone | yeah mine too |
| 13:01.35 | capone | i mean i have slider on 0 |
| 13:01.47 | capone | but that still doesnt mean it wont start transparency even tho its not used apparently |
| 13:02.07 | capone | because even tho transparency is on 0, i still have to put --notransparency switch when starting it |
| 13:02.21 | capone | it could be just me, but i think its a bug |
| 13:02.39 | capone | but when i put notransparency in 185.19 driver it didnt help much, this is perfect now, thx! |
| 13:02.56 | DrSlony | just a lucky guess :] |
| 13:03.15 | capone | yeah also, theres 180.53 if you care, thats the one i put anyway :p |
| 13:03.31 | DrSlony | .53 isnt in gentoo yet :] |
| 13:03.42 | capone | ah, i just install binary from their webpage :p |
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| 13:03.49 | DrSlony | 185.13 is, but its masked as unstable |
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| 13:04.24 | capone | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ thats where i get them |
| 13:04.44 | capone | theres even things like 185.18.08, from yesterday |
| 13:05.02 | capone | i guess they have different builds, 185.x worked rather well on kde 3.5 for me |
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| 13:06.35 | capone | now i just have to figure out why gtk-kde4 doesnt work on all gtk windows ;/ |
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| 13:08.35 | scyrma | (kde 4.2) Using Klipper, how do I go to match "!test", but to capture only "test" (without the "!"). I tried "SCART" Force Scart output PAL, NTSC format, also called Peritel |
| 13:08.40 | scyrma | oops |
| 13:08.41 | scyrma | sorry for that |
| 13:08.51 | scyrma | (kde 4.2) Using Klipper, how do I go to match "!test", but to capture only "test" (without the "!"). I tried "SCART" Force Scart output PAL, NTSC format, also called Peritel |
| 13:09.46 | harry_ | is there a scanner app for kde4? |
| 13:09.55 | pinotree | skanlite? |
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| 13:10.20 | harry_ | sounds good, thanks! |
| 13:10.21 | scyrma | ..I tried the regex (?:!)([A-Za-z0-9]*) .. but the non-capturing (?:!) ends up capturing the "!" :( |
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| 13:16.53 | Klanticus | Hello, I'm trying to add a openVPN connection in kde 4, but can't change the connection port. How could I do that? |
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| 13:26.27 | ultrav1olet | where's kmessage in KDE4? |
| 13:26.50 | ultrav1olet | has it been renamed? |
| 13:26.51 | pinotree | which kmessage? |
| 13:27.05 | ultrav1olet | xmessage KDE's equivalent |
| 13:27.18 | annma | xmessage? |
| 13:27.18 | ultrav1olet | something that pop ups nice messages |
| 13:27.24 | pinotree | kdialog? |
| 13:27.26 | Jucato | \kdialog |
| 13:27.26 | ultrav1olet | yep |
| 13:27.30 | ultrav1olet | thanks! |
| 13:27.33 | pinotree | alway been kdialog |
| 13:27.35 | pinotree | +s |
| 13:27.46 | Jucato | yeah, alway ha been kdialog |
| 13:27.49 | ultrav1olet | it should have a symlink for silly users like me |
| 13:28.10 | ultrav1olet | probably I'll file a bug report :) |
| 13:28.13 | pinotree | hitssssss Jucatossssssssssssssss |
| 13:28.24 | Jucato | pinotree stole my s's :) |
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| 13:29.16 | Jucato | ultrav1olet: kdialog is closer to dialog than xmessage. a symlink would be misleading |
| 13:29.20 | Jucato | (but just imo) |
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| 13:40.19 | ultrav1olet | no objections :) |
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| 13:43.20 | JuJuBee | Is there a wireless scanner for kde (kubuntu) that will allow me to scan for networks and select one to conect to? |
| 13:43.26 | DrSlony | Is there a KDE4 program like soundKonverter to convert audio tracks and split files by cue sheet? |
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| 13:44.01 | vinnie_ | just installed kde on sabayon linux. Why dont i see my desktop icons? |
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| 13:44.16 | ultrav1olet | DrSlony: Medieval CUE Splitter + Wine |
| 13:44.28 | DrSlony | ultrav1olet : i asked for a KDE4 program |
| 13:44.30 | ultrav1olet | vinnie_: KDE4? |
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| 13:44.42 | vinnie_ | ultrav1olet: yes |
| 13:44.45 | ultrav1olet | DrSlony: keep searching while I'm offering the best solution |
| 13:45.18 | DrSlony | ultrav1olet : i already have a native KDE3 solution that works very well, but I'm asking for KDE4 :] |
| 13:45.20 | ultrav1olet | vinnie_: do you see an empty folder plasma applet? |
| 13:45.44 | DrSlony | vinnie_ : you need to drag icong from the K menu to your desktop. KDE4 desktop is much different to KDE3. |
| 13:45.45 | vinnie_ | ultrav1olet: just rssnow |
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| 13:45.54 | DrSlony | *icons |
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| 13:47.13 | vinnie_ | i would like to see the contents of '/home/vinnie/Desktop/' on my desktop?? |
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| 13:47.24 | ultrav1olet | vinnie_: click a cashew at the right top of the screen, the click add widgets, then add folder view |
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| 13:48.39 | ultrav1olet | vinnie_: choose your desktop folder as a destination after you have added it |
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| 13:52.36 | tuxick | i can't find how to switch tabs in konq or where it's configured? |
| 13:52.37 | vinnie_ | added the folder view but dont see it |
| 13:52.51 | tuxick | after an upgrade it stopped working and now i forgot the keys |
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| 13:53.04 | pinotree | tuxick: settings â configure shortcuts |
| 13:53.42 | tuxick | well that's where i didn't find it, but i should have looked under "window" instead of "go" |
| 13:54.06 | vinnie_ | brb |
| 13:54.06 | tuxick | IMO that dialog should allow searching all |
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| 13:54.20 | tuxick | now i first have to guess if something is kwin, plasma or whatever |
| 13:54.40 | pinotree | ? |
| 13:55.01 | pinotree | switching tabs in konq is a konq-specific action, thus konq â settings â configure shortcuts |
| 13:55.34 | tuxick | ah i thought you meant the global dialogs |
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| 13:56.30 | tuxick | i keep forgetting that logic changed |
| 13:56.53 | tuxick | cheers |
| 13:57.46 | Klanticus | hi... is this already fixed in trunk? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/351390 |
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| 13:59.11 | vinnie_ | ok.. got folder view applet working |
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| 14:00.58 | vinnie_ | i have a new problem... i set my screen resolution to 1024x768, but after reboot it swithes back to 1280x1024. How do I fix this please? |
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| 14:12.17 | asd3445 | wich is the state of kde 4.2.3? |
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| 14:12.54 | beer | hi |
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| 14:13.22 | Guest8594 | I have problem with fidning the release annoncement for kde 4.2.3 that is released today |
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| 14:16.44 | sandsmark | how is it possible to connect to a remote ksysguardd using ksysguard? |
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| 14:18.57 | sandsmark | KDE System Guard Daemon is the daemon part of ksysguard. The daemon can |
| 14:18.57 | sandsmark | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.57 | sandsmark | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.15 | sandsmark | whops, sorry, that should've been a single line |
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| 14:19.35 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
| 14:19.40 | Ace2017_- | i have a question about naming plasma themes |
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| 14:20.13 | Ace2017_- | how can i get a list of plasma themes so that i don't create a conflict when i upload it to kde-look? |
| 14:21.59 | vinnie_ | i have a new problem... i set my screen resolution to 1024x768, but after reboot it swithes back to 1280x1024. How do I fix this please? |
| 14:22.38 | sandsmark | vinnie_: ask your distro |
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| 14:22.56 | _kdepepo | Ace2017_-, add "org.ace2017.www" to the theme name :) |
| 14:23.55 | vinnie_ | ok |
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| 14:24.06 | Ace2017_- | lol |
| 14:24.19 | Ace2017_- | was that a serious suggestion? |
| 14:24.34 | _kdepepo | No, it was a pun on D-Bus global naming... |
| 14:24.42 | Ace2017_- | why is the url backwards? |
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| 14:30.47 | aleite | hello |
| 14:30.51 | aleite | I am using trunk... the strigi indexer doesn't start due to instalation problems.. |
| 14:31.02 | aleite | I only compiled kdesupport, libs, pimlibs and base |
| 14:31.13 | aleite | What do I have to do to get this running? |
| 14:31.28 | _kdepepo | aleite, do you run a full kde4 session? |
| 14:31.47 | sandsmark | aleite: what does it say if you run âstrigidaemonâ from a terminal? |
| 14:31.56 | aleite | Just a second |
| 14:32.24 | sandsmark | hehe, on an almost unrelated note, here it says: Could not load '/usr/lib/strigi/strigiindex_sopranobackend.so':/usr/lib/libnepomuk.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7Soprano4NodeC1ERKNS_12LiteralValueE |
| 14:32.29 | sandsmark | which explains why it hasn't been working here |
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| 14:34.13 | aleite | No... here says another thing... |
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| 14:34.23 | aleite | But pastebin thinks it is a spam!!! great! |
| 14:34.47 | sandsmark | try another pastebin |
| 14:34.55 | sandsmark | rafb.net/paste always works for me |
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| 14:36.27 | aleite | http://pastebin.ca/1414267 |
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| 14:36.43 | aleite | Seems like it is indexing |
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| 14:37.04 | sandsmark | looks okay |
| 14:37.12 | aleite | In the terminal, but not through systemsettings |
| 14:37.28 | DrSlony | Help, when I right-click on a dir in /mnt/sda6/music/, the dir is called /Infected Mushroom/, and I select "Compress to" and save it as a zip file in ~/temp/foo.zip, and then open that zip and try to extract, the zip file's dir tree is ../../../music/music/Infected Mushroom/2007 - Vicious Delicious/files here . How do I get the tree to start just at Vicious Delicious? Screenshot here http://imagebin.ca/img/Mk0ee-xP.png |
| 14:38.05 | aleite | very strange that behaviour... |
| 14:39.20 | Ace2017_- | DrSlony: just do it in the command line |
| 14:39.40 | DrSlony | Ace2017_- I want to use a gui tool. |
| 14:39.49 | Leoryk | hi, I need help. I am in las yer on hight school and i went to school director and start propageted linux in desktop learning because we are IT school. Everything is ok me and my friend do project called Tux and everything director agreed, but hi want see KDE 4 in action and want know best things of KDE 4. Pleas do you know very good propagate video of KDE 4..? |
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| 14:40.22 | Ace2017_- | youtube |
| 14:40.24 | DrSlony | Leoryk I hear KDE4 runs best out-of-the-box on opensuse, I hear it doesnt run well in kubuntu |
| 14:40.35 | DrSlony | so you might want to try a opensuse live cd |
| 14:40.44 | Ace2017_- | i feel that debian has the best kde4 |
| 14:41.10 | TheAncientGoat | Mandriva also has a nice KDE 4 implementation (at least in my experience). Better than Kubuntu, in any case |
| 14:41.28 | DrSlony | i use gentoo, works great, but im talking about live cd's |
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| 14:47.29 | Leoryk | DrSlony: I know i was user of openSuSe and Kubuntu and it right, but know i am Fedora user forever. But i need video or some article of KDE 4 where is best thing of this graphical environment. Propagating video. For example KDE 4 is Best KDE 4 is fast. If director see this video i want they say wow. |
| 14:48.19 | DrSlony | aha |
| 14:48.49 | Leoryk | DrSlony: where are you from..? |
| 14:48.59 | DrSlony | sorry, i havent seen anything like that, but generally you want a video that shows off the opengl composition, that impresses people quickly :] |
| 14:49.02 | DrSlony | poland |
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| 14:51.04 | Leoryk | DrSlony: our director is linux guru but only servers i need functional. i soo video of KDE 4.3 where show krunner |
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| 14:51.40 | DrSlony | Leoryk : i havent seen 4.3, show me please if its good quality :] |
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| 14:56.04 | Ace2017_- | wow, love the effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqviTYwJa1E |
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| 14:57.27 | sandsmark | it's pretty annoying :] |
| 14:57.44 | sandsmark | (and I couldn't find anywhere to turn it off yet) |
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| 14:59.54 | Ace2017_- | i think with that effect kwin surpasses compiz in features, but it'll be interesting to see if the performance will do the same |
| 15:00.21 | Leoryk | I thought video like this, because there was show KDE functions no effects and its good for work |
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| 15:02.02 | peaches | Ace2017_-: yeah does that feature work for you? |
| 15:03.10 | Ace2017_- | i don't have 4.3 :( |
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| 15:03.29 | peaches | oh 4.3 |
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| 15:05.44 | Sash | hi, where does kde store what programs to start when logging in? I have some app in it that crashes my X :( |
| 15:06.09 | Sash | kde 3.5 |
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| 15:09.56 | xpk | hello. how can i turn off all the special effects in kde 4.2.2 from console by editing its config files? |
| 15:10.46 | peaches | Sash: look for autostart or something in control center |
| 15:11.13 | Sash | peaches: console only, kde wont come up |
| 15:11.56 | peaches | xpk: probably looking for kwinrc |
| 15:12.33 | peaches | Sash: use a non kde session and start it with kcontrol or systemsettings something like that |
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| 15:13.00 | Sash | that might work, 1 sek |
| 15:13.37 | xpk | wonder what to write in there |
| 15:13.48 | xpk | it doesn't seem so obvious, unfortunately |
| 15:14.24 | Zarin | xpk, so you want compositing for transparency but no effects at all? |
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| 15:17.05 | xpk | i remember there was a general checkbox in the graphic configuring tool which switched off all the effects, like. i've just made a new install of kde4 and can't get 3d acceleration for the videocard working, so that kde won't work properly either |
| 15:17.16 | Sash | peaches, thanks for the tip. starting with an empty session worked. X stays alive. |
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| 15:17.38 | xpk | i thought it could do the trick if i switched off those effects |
| 15:17.46 | peaches | Sash: ok see if you can fix your autostart problem |
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| 15:18.33 | eddyb | kde4.3 roks! |
| 15:18.36 | eddyb | *rocks |
| 15:18.49 | eddyb | air theme is *amaizing* |
| 15:19.19 | peaches | Sash: 3.5 who knows. 4 config autostart is in $KDEHOME/Autostart and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/autostart |
| 15:19.30 | Sash | peaches: I don't care if I can't restore my opened apps. so my problem is fixed. |
| 15:19.30 | peaches | if th gui doesnt help |
| 15:19.40 | peaches | ok |
| 15:20.35 | peaches | Sash: oh .. ok.. that's not autostart then that was session restore |
| 15:20.45 | TheAncientGoat | Man, can't wait till Plasma applets download/install properly from the Cool New Stuff dialog |
| 15:20.55 | peaches | eddyb: have any screenshots of the full theme? |
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| 15:22.01 | ma3x | where can you configure more buffer lines for Konsole? |
| 15:22.23 | eddyb | peaches: saw it on a blog http://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2009/03/plasma-dev-team-rocks.html |
| 15:22.36 | szal | does KDE 4 have a graphical iptables frontend? |
| 15:23.11 | eddyb | but how i can delete all the wallpapers i dled via the dektop setting dialog? |
| 15:23.16 | eddyb | *desktop |
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| 15:26.08 | peaches | eddyb: in KDEHOME/share/wallpapers. you should probably feature request to make it easier |
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| 15:27.09 | annma | it will be possiblewith GHNS at some point |
| 15:27.20 | annma | with Uninstall button |
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| 15:28.56 | peaches | i see it is there. that just leaves the ones from manual install |
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| 15:29.05 | eddyb | peaches: yeah, a show installed for all uch things |
| 15:29.10 | eddyb | *such |
| 15:29.20 | Gimped | Hi, what is the commandline input to check the current Qt version? (KDE 4.2.2) |
| 15:29.21 | eddyb | (themes, wallpapers, etc) |
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| 15:32.04 | peaches | eddyb: it's already there now or will be from the same place as you download as annma says as long as you use the downloader |
| 15:33.04 | ma3x | anyone? how do i increase the lines in the Konsole so I can scroll up more |
| 15:33.08 | ma3x | i couldnt find this option in the settings |
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| 15:35.41 | peaches | isn't there a 'scrollack' menu option |
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| 15:37.14 | peaches | scrollback |
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| 15:47.09 | cvandonderen | just updated to KDE 4.2.3 from OpenSuSE packages and is wondering if there is a ChangeLog somewhere.... |
| 15:49.09 | Ace2017_- | http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_2_2to4_2_3.php |
| 15:49.19 | cvandonderen | thanks |
| 15:50.04 | cvandonderen | it's not on the main page, that's why |
| 15:50.18 | pinotree | becuase it is not released, yet :) |
| 15:51.03 | cvandonderen | aaah |
| 15:51.10 | cvandonderen | suse is just fast.... :P |
| 15:52.41 | pusling | no. cheating |
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| 15:57.55 | cvandonderen | hmmmm |
| 15:57.59 | cvandonderen | is that bad? |
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| 15:59.13 | kl0 | пÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
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| 16:19.26 | leeguy92 | hi all |
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| 16:19.51 | leeguy92 | i jus downloaded kde4 onto my ubuntu box |
| 16:19.58 | leeguy92 | it all looks nice, and shiny |
| 16:20.11 | leeguy92 | but the speed is...well....substandard :-/ |
| 16:20.36 | leeguy92 | i would imagine this is due to the KDE compositing manager not using hardware acceleration |
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| 16:20.44 | leeguy92 | is there a way i can cure this? |
| 16:20.57 | peaches | alt f2, desktop effects |
| 16:21.05 | leeguy92 | im talkin about stuff like minimising etc... |
| 16:21.23 | peaches | yep |
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| 17:59.43 | zak | why i can't anymore drug and paste icons on my upscreen panel ?iam using kde4 trunk |
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| 17:59.44 | annma | drug icons? |
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| 17:59.46 | ironfroggy_ | Is it possible to get a particular window to be somehow "bound" to a particular virtual desktop? |
| 17:59.46 | zak | annma: i have a panel in my upper screen , ijust wannt to put icons of my mostly used packages there, i used to be able to do that but , i have upgraded to kd4.2.71 and was obliged to restart my plasma and i cant do that anymore |
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| 17:59.47 | annma | I don't have dual screens to check |
| 17:59.47 | Half-Left | chakie: Insert cd, watch the tracks show up in audex, click Rip |
| 17:59.47 | ironfroggy_ | in particular, im sure ive seen demos that showed such things with virtualbox and making a particular desktop be the guest OS and im trying to learn how to replicate that |
| 17:59.47 | Half-Left | How hard is that? |
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| 18:00.25 | zak | annma: heh? |
| 18:01.02 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
| 18:01.10 | *** topic/#kde by pinotree -> KDE 4.2.3 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | KDE forum: http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 18:01.11 | annma | up screen |
| 18:01.22 | *** mode/#kde [-o pinotree] by pinotree |
| 18:01.23 | DrSlony | ironfroggy_ yes |
| 18:01.25 | annma | you mean a panel on top of your screen? |
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| 18:01.38 | annma | you mean that the position of the panel matters in that case? |
| 18:01.46 | annma | zak: ^^ |
| 18:02.15 | zak | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:02.33 | ironfroggy_ | oh man, an answer and then a /leave? that leaves me hanging! |
| 18:02.35 | annma | zak: does it work for panel at bottom? |
| 18:02.44 | zak | annma: yes |
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| 18:02.59 | annma | so as I said it's the panel position that makes the difference? |
| 18:03.10 | zak | annma: it ssems so |
| 18:03.14 | annma | drag icon: you mean from K menu for example? |
| 18:03.22 | chakie | Half-Left: there is no "Rip" |
| 18:03.27 | annma | draga prog from Kickoff? |
| 18:03.32 | annma | drag a prog from Kickoff? |
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| 18:03.41 | zak | annma: yes |
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| 18:04.15 | zak | annma: i have a screenshot of my previous Desktop, let me paste please |
| 18:04.17 | Half-Left | chakie: I have Rip on the toolbar, last one, next to "fetch info" |
| 18:04.39 | chakie | Half-Left: i guess that's what my version calls "Extract CDDA" |
| 18:05.06 | Half-Left | Thats just the cd info |
| 18:05.16 | chakie | no Rip button |
| 18:05.22 | annma | zak: I confirme |
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| 18:05.29 | annma | can you make a bug report please? |
| 18:05.40 | Half-Left | What version? |
| 18:05.41 | chakie | Half-Left: there's a Get Info though that fetched cddb info |
| 18:05.47 | annma | a screenshot is not needed, just explain that you drag and drop from Kickoff |
| 18:06.11 | chakie | Half-Left: 0.62 |
| 18:06.30 | Half-Left | I have 0.70 |
| 18:06.37 | chakie | Eject, Fetch Info, Extract CDDA, Configure, Quit |
| 18:06.44 | zak | annma: sure |
| 18:06.56 | zak | annma: ha ve the link for that? |
| 18:06.59 | chakie | but, i got it to work, it tried to save into some place it wasn't allowed |
| 18:07.22 | zak | annma: http://picpaste.com/Desktop1.png |
| 18:07.24 | chakie | there was a nice path editor for setting the path pattern, then it worked |
| 18:07.25 | annma | bugs.kde.org |
| 18:07.45 | zak | annma: iam using trunk, may i report bugs if iam using an unstable version? |
| 18:08.01 | annma | of course |
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| 18:08.09 | zak | ok then :) |
| 18:08.14 | annma | trunk is nearly stable as it's in debug mode |
| 18:08.26 | annma | it's asked for to report trunk bugs |
| 18:08.27 | Half-Left | chakie: I also have "Rip" in the Audex menu |
| 18:08.31 | zak | yeah it's pretty stable :) |
| 18:08.39 | annma | zak: I checked also with a panel on side |
| 18:08.51 | zak | tried that too in vain |
| 18:08.52 | annma | and also I can't drag a plasmoid |
| 18:08.56 | chakie | Half-Left: i guess the author noticed that nobody knows what CDDA is |
| 18:09.30 | Half-Left | Well that just gets the cd info off the disk out from the internet |
| 18:09.31 | chakie | hm, my failed audiocd:/ test has ruined my desktop though, everything is slooow and no dolphin reacts to input anymore |
| 18:09.36 | chakie | no |
| 18:09.41 | chakie | that's Fetch Info |
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| 18:11.13 | Half-Left | May the dev changed the UI in 0.70 |
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| 18:11.32 | chakie | yeah |
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| 18:12.27 | orzel | hello. For quite some time, kmail does not propose email from my addressbook when i enter something in the 'From:' field. It's rather strange as it has always worked. If i click on the 'select' button on the right, then indeed, the list is almost empty. While if i open 'kaddressbook', then (fortunately!) all my contacts are still there. |
| 18:12.33 | orzel | do you have any idea of what's going on ? i'm using 4.2.2 from gentoo. |
| 18:12.46 | orzel | I have had no answer on #kontact. |
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| 18:14.13 | orzel | I dont dare touching the configuration of akonadi. I never did (so why did it break?) and i don't understand anything. I'm afraid it breaks my system and loose my addressbook. Is there any documentation for this btw ? |
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| 18:14.58 | orzel | i thought about reporting a bug on bugs.kde.org, but when i enter 'kmail', bugzilla panics and tells me that there are too much bugs about this, and then firefox almost stalls trying to render a very very long page |
| 18:15.20 | orzel | (which is quite frightening, if you ask me) |
| 18:15.42 | mkirk | In exploring some features of KDE 4, I seem to have put myself in this special mode, which hides the taskbar and changes the background color. It's nice and focused and all, but how the hell do I get out of it? |
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| 18:18.04 | shiftplusone | Hello, where does okular save the reviews for pdf files? |
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| 18:19.01 | pinotree | in $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/apps/okular |
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| 18:21.19 | shiftplusone | pinotree, thanks |
| 18:21.30 | zak | i can't remember my login for bugs.kde.org i reset my password but i cant remember my log in ,how to get that by mail? |
| 18:22.17 | ironfroggy_ | if things like the expose-like functionality, desktop cube, etc. stop working. is there something i can manually kick to get it working without a reboot? |
| 18:22.29 | thiago_home | zak: your login is your email address |
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| 18:37.34 | P4C0 | hello, I'm testing an external monitor and the kde bar doesn't extend to the full length, is there a way to set this? |
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| 18:43.46 | Flyser | Hi, I am trying to build kde using kdesvn-build in my home directory (~/kde to be precise), but I keep getting strange error like this one: http://nopaste.org/p/aYVUfNrlhb Can you give me a hint, why it is trying to write to /usr and how to prevent that? kdesvn-buildrc: http://nopaste.org/p/aMlUoxGv9 |
| 18:44.35 | Flyser | kdesupport, kdelibs and kdepimlibs work fine, but kdebase and kdenetwork are failing... |
| 18:44.35 | sandsmark | Flyser: looks like a plasma bug |
| 18:45.00 | sandsmark | maybe try #plasma if noone here knows? |
| 18:46.13 | Flyser | it looks more like a PyKDE4 or kdesvn-build bug to me |
| 18:46.20 | Flyser | maybe its a configuration issue? |
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| 18:47.15 | P4C0 | i changed the resolution on my screen (to a bigger one) but my taskbar stays of the same size... to the botton left and a bit more of the center of the screen, is there a way to autoresize it to take the whole screen like with the old resolution? |
| 18:47.58 | P4C0 | found it... mazime pannel under more options... :) |
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| 18:55.20 | P4C0 | is there a default shortcut to maximize, minimize and restore windows on kde4 or should I have to set'em up? |
| 18:55.50 | PhilRod_ | "Alt+F3, x" for maximize |
| 18:56.01 | PhilRod_ | but that's not really a useful shortcut - I guess you'd have to set it up |
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| 18:57.34 | P4C0 | thanks PhilRod_ |
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| 18:58.48 | PhilRod_ | P4C0: you can set the shortcuts you want in system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> global shortcuts |
| 18:58.59 | PhilRod_ | and select "kwin" in the "kde component" dropdown |
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| 18:59.24 | P4C0 | PhilRod_: thanks |
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| 19:10.02 | Rasi | wtf... a vista transformation pack for kde4 on kde-look.org |
| 19:10.07 | Rasi | i qoute the install routine: |
| 19:10.17 | Rasi | - chmod +x install.sh |
| 19:10.17 | Rasi | - sudo ./install.sh |
| 19:10.18 | Rasi | - login as vistar7 user |
| 19:10.22 | Rasi | o_O |
| 19:10.38 | Rasi | why should i want a new user for a theme... |
| 19:11.08 | der_soenke | what does install.sh? enythig funny? |
| 19:12.01 | Half-Left | Rasi: Ask the person who made it |
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| 19:29.58 | Flyser | der_soenke: the install.sh looks okay to me ... at least there seems to be no backdoor or anything ;-) |
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| 19:45.01 | gregm_ | Any Konq devs in the house? |
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| 19:47.13 | wekt | in KDE 4.2, where can the printer configuration panel be found? I'm looking in systemsettings and have system-config-printer-kde installed but don't find it. |
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| 19:49.56 | wekt | Answer: under system --> printer or settings --> printer . Though I don't know why they are different. |
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| 19:50.55 | slash|crisis | hey everybody. there is a link that points to a 404 error page here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_2_2to4_2_3.php |
| 19:51.04 | slash|crisis | "All SVN changes" |
| 19:52.29 | gregm_ | wekt: Administration-->Printing is also a cadidate. |
| 19:52.40 | drvoodoo | it also lacks on the 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 change site |
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| 19:53.48 | gregm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.25 | donavan | Is there anyway to make separate konsole instances start? rather than every konsole being owned by a single konsole? "copy input to" sucks when you have 100's of tabs open and decent way to identify the tabs in the current frame. |
| 19:54.58 | gregm_ | wekt: system-config-printer 1.0.16 on Red Hat derived systems. YMMV. |
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| 19:55.35 | wekt | I have KDE 4.2.2 (Debian) and no Administration entry on K-Menu. |
| 19:56.23 | p_quarles | wekt: there is no "administration" section by default; are you looking for systemsettings? |
| 19:57.10 | kellen | does powerdevil need acpi or acpid? |
| 19:57.25 | wekt | I looked first in systemsettings, but found nothing. Then I looked in K-Menu and found 'Printing' under Settings and System. |
| 19:57.26 | der_soenke | i've read that the repo-URLs for KDE4.2.2 have changed |
| 19:57.48 | wekt | What kind of URL is a repo-URL? |
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| 19:58.03 | gregm_ | wekt: expressions of horror at distro differences. |
| 19:58.11 | der_soenke | wekt: sorry, wrong chanel.... but it would be the opensuse-repository for kde ;-) |
| 19:59.07 | wekt | One reason I prefer Debian is that they customize KDE less (than Ubuntu). |
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| 20:01.26 | p_quarles | wekt: sorry, you found what you were looking for then? |
| 20:01.52 | wekt | I think so, but it failed. I'll re-login as root now. Nice chatting. bye. |
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| 20:05.25 | gregm_ | Reason for my question about any Konq devs in the house: |
| 20:05.44 | gregm_ | http://konqueror.kde.org/ doesn't seem to have been updated since 1997. |
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| 20:06.13 | gregm_ | Wanted to ask a question about JavaScript test suites. |
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| 20:06.24 | kellen | does acpi or acpid have to be installed for acpi-cpufreq to work with powerdevil? |
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| 20:08.16 | gregm_ | Does anyone know where I might shoot an email to? |
| 20:08.24 | LuHe | hello, I've an encrypted (luks / dm-crypt) on a logical volume.. is it possible to get it shown in the places sidebar? (afaik this worked before, but i didn't use a logical volume) |
| 20:09.10 | cYmen2 | i deactivated borders on a window, how do i get them back? :) |
| 20:09.33 | Flyser | cYmen: press ALT+F3 |
| 20:09.39 | Flyser | while the window is active |
| 20:10.29 | gregm_ | LuHe: I'm not using luks on this system, but you might mention your file manager. |
| 20:10.53 | LuHe | oh sry, it's dolphin ;) |
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| 20:11.09 | gregm_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:11.27 | LuHe | tried kde version 4.2.1 and svn 4.2.71 |
| 20:11.33 | cYmen2 | Flyser: thanks |
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| 20:12.33 | gregm_ | LuHe: I can't hlep, but that should be all the info anyone who's using luks needs... |
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| 20:29.59 | nathanielK_ | I just noticed, konsole's output search + tail -f <log> = custom highlighting of live logs :) very handy |
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| 20:32.17 | Sichemist | nathanielK_: What do you mean "output search"? |
| 20:32.39 | nathanielK_ | Sichemist: scrollback->search output |
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| 20:46.42 | gregm_ | nathanielK_: I use konsole a *lot*, but I'd never noticed that before. I think I equated it with settings. |
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| 20:48.05 | nathanielK_ | gregm_: me too! I tend to only think of konsole as xterm with tabs sometimes :) |
| 20:49.06 | dartmouth | hi, is there a way to get dolphin *not* to open or launch items with a single click? |
| 20:49.09 | dartmouth | this is driving me crazy |
| 20:49.24 | dartmouth | i've been asking in here for two days, there doesn't seem to be an option |
| 20:50.15 | tuxick | sounds crazy |
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| 20:51.09 | dartmouth | double-click to open items? |
| 20:51.15 | dartmouth | that sounds crazy? |
| 20:51.33 | dartmouth | because *I* thought it was *default behaviour* in every filemanager i've ever seen |
| 20:51.59 | Sichemist | dartmouth: I just use Konqueror :-) |
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| 20:53.06 | gregm_ | dartmouth: It would drive me crazy, too. But yes, you can disable that. |
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| 20:54.18 | gregm_ | dartmouth: did it so long ago I have to go figure out how. It's in KDE global settings, somewhere, IIRC. |
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| 20:55.00 | Sichemist | keyboard and mouse settings? It seems I remember editing it there. |
| 20:55.03 | ponto | dartmouth: is dolphin unusable with single click? |
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| 20:55.58 | dartmouth | that's really not the issue, ponto; what is this...windows? |
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| 20:57.57 | dartmouth | i found the option. thank you Sichemist |
| 20:58.10 | dartmouth | that should really be in dolphin's settings |
| 20:58.19 | Sichemist | Cool. I hate the "single click to open" setting as well. |
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| 20:58.44 | cYmen2 | windows tried to establish that with windows ..what 98? and nobody liked it...wonder why kde is coming back to it now :) |
| 20:58.45 | Sichemist | It also affects the "desktop" IIRC, thus in system settings |
| 20:58.48 | dartmouth | yeah it screws up the hover mouse actions a litte too |
| 20:59.05 | ponto | dartmouth: i am interessted in the problems peopole have with single click. I've never used double click, because I never used windows longer than some seconds. |
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| 20:59.38 | dartmouth | ponto: i think you overlooked an ideological issue about what a user should be able to change. |
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| 20:59.45 | Sichemist | ponto: It makes it difficult to highlight items for file operations. |
| 21:00.29 | pinotree | cYmen2: if we want to be precise, kde always had single-click as default |
| 21:01.03 | cYmen2 | pinotree: really? wow...i've never really used it up until a month ago |
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| 21:01.12 | gregm_ | dartmouth: confirm Sichemist. It's in keyboard and mouse. Select double-click. |
| 21:01.15 | cYmen2 | i mean kde not single click stuff ;) |
| 21:01.22 | ponto | cYmen2: some distors shipped with double-click as default. |
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| 21:02.07 | ponto | Sichemist: I see that it might be harder to highlight single items in a listview. but i do not see how this makes file operations harder, because the right click has all the operations. |
| 21:02.38 | gregm_ | dartmouth: given that there are at least three file managers, it probably has to live in globals. |
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| 21:03.54 | gregm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.04 | dartmouth | gregm_: in that case, they should combine all three of those file managers as different modes of the same file manager. |
| 21:05.18 | gregm_ | They already drive me mad, on which one is currently broken with the fish protocol. :) |
| 21:05.19 | dartmouth | or we could just make kde proprietary |
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| 21:06.46 | Sichemist | Which file manager has fish broken? I've been sticking with 3.5's Konqueror. |
| 21:06.48 | gregm_ | dartmouth: Most people don't get konq's profiles. As for making KDE proprietary--I don't even know where to start. |
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| 21:08.17 | gregm_ | Sichemist: I've had trouble with logging into remote systems on startup, with all three. The symptoms change with /program/version. |
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| 21:08.55 | Sichemist | I depend on "fish://"! |
| 21:09.36 | nathanielK | fish works great in dolphin - but I don't know about on startup |
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| 21:10.32 | gregm_ | Sichemist: Me too. On Fedora 10 testing, krusader is currently working best. Today. |
| 21:13.04 | gregm_ | nathanielK: worked great for me too, for a while. Then every time I started it, with a remote tab, I got an aborted by user error. |
| 21:13.45 | nathanielK | Huh, sad. |
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| 21:13.59 | nathanielK | Now I'm paranoid it will crap out on me, too |
| 21:14.06 | gregm_ | nathanielK: Drove me to finish some scripts based around rysnc, so it's not a show-stopper. |
| 21:14.26 | nathanielK | gregm_: heh, nice. |
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| 21:15.11 | gregm_ | nathanielK: is the way to go, if you're sufficiently lazy. |
| 21:16.05 | gregm_ | nathanielK: But if you're trying to coordinate a lot of interaction, it can be complex. |
| 21:16.24 | nathanielK | gregm_: yeah. I was looking into writing some rsync stuff to keep music synced on my laptop and web server; then my web server was hacked and then subsequently suffered a hard drive failure |
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| 21:16.45 | nathanielK | Suffice it to say I've not gotten around to fixing it yet. |
| 21:17.02 | Sichemist | I use rsync to sync e-mail from my work desktop to work laptop. |
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| 21:17.20 | Sichemist | That way, I keep all my "sent" e-mails too. |
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| 21:18.23 | gregm_ | nathanielK: http://www.lonlabs.com/greg/log/cron_and_synchronization_on_centos_red_hat_and_fedora.shtml |
| 21:19.15 | gregm_ | If you need to do sync on disparate systems, this is fairly important. |
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| 21:19.54 | nathanielK | gregm_: Unknown Host error. |
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| 21:21.24 | gregm_ | fat-fingered http://www.linlabs.com/greg/log/cron_and_synchronization_on_centos_red_hat_and_fedora.shtml |
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| 21:27.37 | ExElNeT | hmm any idea why my actionbar is missing? i cant get it back... |
| 21:28.12 | cb400f | the panel? |
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| 21:28.29 | Caldavien_ | is ther a gksudo equivilent in kubuntu ? |
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| 21:29.19 | cb400f | ask in #kubuntu ? .. there's kdesu.. dunno if there's kdesudo too |
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| 21:30.32 | gregm_ | nathanielK: So was that at all useful? I write a lot of weird stuff, and it's never easy to tell whether people find it useful. |
| 21:30.38 | klebezettel | hello, using the folderview plasmoid, how can I tell it to display the "Places" of dolphins sidebar or the favorites of kickoffs menu? |
| 21:31.11 | Caldavien_ | turns out there is a kdesudo, and it worked just like gksudo, thanks for the help :) |
| 21:31.33 | schoko | hey everyone, and hello, I got some questions about KOrganizer I'm right here or is there a different channel for Kontact and stuff |
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| 21:32.12 | gregm_ | schoko: version? |
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| 21:32.52 | schoko | Kontact 1.4.2 KOrganizer 4.2.2 using Kubuntu |
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| 21:33.00 | ExElNeT | well its activated... but empty |
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| 21:34.22 | schoko | is somewhere a "Knowen-Bug" list for KOrganizer? |
| 21:34.57 | tuxick | bugs.kde.org |
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| 21:43.42 | schoko | xD thx, ok its a knowen Bug -.- so no cure :( for now good night all |
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| 21:44.06 | askara | hi |
| 21:44.54 | askara | I didn't find how to import a .color scheme in KDE 4 :/ (mandriva) |
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| 21:45.28 | gregm_ | Have to scoot to a meeting on the hour. Anybody have anything out there I was supposed to respond to? |
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| 21:46.54 | gregm_ | This would be a great time for everyone to chant 'begone'. :) |
| 21:48.01 | Caldavien_ | gregm_, you just cant hear us, turn your speakers up :D |
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| 21:49.50 | gregm_ | Caldavien_: tthhpppt. |
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| 21:50.28 | gregm_ | K, I'm grabbing the hat and coat. Best wishes to all. |
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| 22:02.52 | teatime | anyone know a KDE4 tool for scanning? |
| 22:03.06 | AHelper | Scanning...? |
| 22:03.14 | jthomas | is kooka not yet in kde4? |
| 22:03.20 | teatime | a Sane frontend, that is |
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| 22:03.46 | pinotree | skanlite? |
| 22:03.59 | jthomas | if not kooka, i have no idea of others. try pinotree's suggestion |
| 22:04.17 | tek0 | when I shade a window, the area under it doesn't get painted anymore |
| 22:04.20 | AHelper | Scanning on a printer (assumed). What brand? |
| 22:04.24 | teatime | pinotree: thnkx. I'll try it |
| 22:04.54 | teatime | actually, XSane works great.. I'm just shopping round for something KDEish :) |
| 22:05.16 | AHelper | XSane here with the HP stuff. |
| 22:05.30 | teatime | there appears to be a kipi plugin for scanning.. but gwenview just gives me an error and I can't find any way to configure it |
| 22:05.57 | teatime | skanlite said the same thing.. "sorry, no scanner" |
| 22:06.00 | teatime | and exits |
| 22:06.01 | teatime | meh |
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| 22:09.33 | tek0 | seems to happen only if I switch off 'blur' |
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| 22:14.57 | teatime | interesting.. digikam finds the scanner |
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| 22:15.18 | teatime | I would have thought it was the same kipi plugin |
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| 22:49.23 | plutonian | why does openoffice.org writer not obey the window behavior configuration to always maximize? |
| 22:49.39 | plutonian | whenever I open a document it starts out non-maximized |
| 22:52.24 | victim | openoffice always opens maximised here, maybe check your window behaviours |
| 22:52.59 | plutonian | I did check |
| 22:53.13 | plutonian | try opening a document, not starting it from the menu |
| 22:53.13 | victim | right click on the a windows title bar and add a new rule |
| 22:53.29 | doctorwhite | when i try to browse shares in kde via smb:// i am getting errors |
| 22:53.35 | doctorwhite | i get an error msg: the given name could not be resolved to a unique server. make sure your network is setup without any name conflicts between names used by windows and by unix name resolution |
| 22:53.43 | doctorwhite | or timeout error |
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| 22:54.22 | plutonian | actually it starts out maximized and then un-maximizes itself |
| 22:54.25 | victim | plutonian: just tried it and it opened full screen |
| 22:54.41 | victim | plutonian: it stayed maxed |
| 22:55.17 | victim | i'm using kubuntu 9.04 and kde 4.2.2 |
| 22:55.25 | plutonian | hmm |
| 22:55.33 | plutonian | this is infuriating |
| 22:55.59 | plutonian | I think it's something openoffice is doing, not KDE |
| 22:56.30 | plutonian | it's quite silly |
| 22:56.44 | plutonian | it wants me to use a word processor that only takes 1/4 of the screen |
| 22:56.50 | plutonian | why on earth would I want that |
| 22:58.12 | victim | i'm also using oo.o 3.0.1 if that helps |
| 22:59.16 | plutonian | I don't understand |
| 22:59.24 | plutonian | it definitely starts out maximized |
| 22:59.31 | plutonian | but something is making it minimize |
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| 23:00.39 | victim | create a new window behaviour specific to OpenOffice.org with a rule to run it maximised horizontally and vertically |
| 23:00.40 | tek0 | alright, I figured out: If I turn off the 'Blur' effect, the area behind a shaded window isn't repainted until I _move_ a _wobbly_ window over it |
| 23:00.55 | tek0 | no other way. |
| 23:01.11 | tek0 | (since 4.2.71) |
| 23:01.51 | karthikp | I'm dropping in the middle here, but did you say the blur effect now works reasonably? |
| 23:02.09 | karthikp | I've been waiting for it to work since 4.0 :( |
| 23:03.00 | karthikp | Causes random artifacts on the screen. I always enable it when a new release comes out, play around. Get sick of random artifacts and drop it. |
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| 23:03.47 | karthikp | Is that a stock broker? |
| 23:03.54 | karthikp | No! It's bicyclerepairman !!! |
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| 23:05.39 | karthikp | Sigh. No one appreciates Monty Python anymore... |
| 23:06.27 | AHelper | Holy Grail |
| 23:07.16 | cire | With kwin4 and dual head (xinerama), will there be 2 cubes, or one big? |
| 23:08.05 | tek0 | karthikp: I didn't link them to blur, but they haven't been appearing often latelyâ¦until now, I just had some rectangles |
| 23:08.18 | tek0 | but really few |
| 23:08.34 | karthikp | They are the artifacts I was talking about. |
| 23:08.47 | plutonian | ok so |
| 23:08.57 | plutonian | I have a window-specific behavior setting for openoffice.org |
| 23:08.58 | karthikp | Random rectangles about ten pixels away around a window? |
| 23:09.08 | plutonian | to force mazimize horizontally and vertically |
| 23:09.12 | karthikp | Turn off blur and they go away. |
| 23:09.16 | karthikp | Magic. |
| 23:09.16 | plutonian | maximize* |
| 23:09.34 | karthikp | plutonian: go on. |
| 23:09.35 | plutonian | but when I open a document from dolphin, it always starts out taking only 1/4 of the screen |
| 23:09.55 | karthikp | Heh. I've seen that behavior, too. |
| 23:10.06 | karthikp | I didn't force set the window size, though. |
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| 23:10.12 | plutonian | I know my setting applies because when I maximize it after that, it stays maximized |
| 23:10.23 | plutonian | even when I try to un-maximize it |
| 23:10.29 | karthikp | But usually, when you close an app full screen, it opens full screened. |
| 23:10.38 | karthikp | But, openoffice doesn't do that. |
| 23:11.09 | plutonian | I tried changing "force" to "apply initially" |
| 23:11.09 | plutonian | but no dice |
| 23:12.47 | karthikp | plutonian: Did you try the Workarounds tab as well? |
| 23:13.03 | karthikp | Don't know what it does, but may be something useful... :) |
| 23:13.04 | plutonian | no |
| 23:13.17 | karthikp | There's an option for fullscreening there as well. |
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| 23:13.46 | Rccenter | Hi, http://pastebin.mandriva.com/10910 |
| 23:13.52 | Rccenter | Where should i report this? |
| 23:14.13 | plutonian | I tried it, no dice |
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| 23:16.14 | karthikp | Maybe gtk apps don't respect kwin settings? |
| 23:16.25 | karthikp | But firefox remembers. |
| 23:16.31 | karthikp | So, it's something about openoffice. |
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| 23:24.30 | plutonian | jesus christ |
| 23:24.33 | plutonian | why can |
| 23:24.40 | plutonian | 't this just work |
| 23:25.36 | karthikp | plutonian: Try your distro's channel. Maybe someone there might help with this... |
| 23:25.43 | victim | plutonian: is your new rule at the top of the list? |
| 23:25.55 | karthikp | Good point. |
| 23:26.26 | karthikp | Although, the default rule deals with focus prevention, so it shouldn't matter...in theory.. |
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| 23:27.45 | plutonian | moving it to the top does nothing |
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| 23:33.41 | victim | plutonian: I'm out of ideas |
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| 23:44.55 | bgmiki | Qt: 4.5.1 |
| 23:44.56 | bgmiki | KDE: 4.2.85 (KDE 4.2.85 (KDE 4.3 Beta1)) |
| 23:44.58 | bgmiki | kde4-config: 1.0 |
| 23:44.59 | bgmiki | :) |
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