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| 00:22.00 | slug | hello |
| 00:22.17 | slug | guys is there a way to add all server to konversation |
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| 00:33.36 | true | hm, question...whenever ending my session, and returning, my panel changes aren't saved |
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| 01:09.07 | herlimenezes | Hi, how can I change default languages in KDE? There is only english-us. I speak portuguese-br... |
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| 01:13.53 | true | herlimenezes: it has alternate language support, which distro? |
| 01:14.22 | herlimenezes | true: Fedora Cambridge FC11 |
| 01:14.32 | herlimenezes | better: FC10 |
| 01:15.07 | herlimenezes | No, as I try changing language, there is only english-us |
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| 01:15.42 | true | herlimenezes: hm, on gentoo I only have English-us... but I have set many things to only have that langauge, as well as gentoo LINGUAS to be only english :/ it sounds like a fedora packaging problem |
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| 01:16.41 | true | herlimenezes: did you install the l10n package? |
| 01:16.57 | herlimenezes | BTW: during installation, I choose portuguese-br. there is a strange thing: all labels are in portuguese, but as I type, some special characters, like ã, á, are not seen, Im just using utf-8. |
| 01:17.14 | herlimenezes | fedora? |
| 01:17.23 | herlimenezes | Yes, of course I did. |
| 01:17.42 | true | Then I don't know. If you have the l10n package installed, the languages should be there. Sorry :/ |
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| 01:18.16 | true | maybe someone else who uses an alternate language can help you (I use English-us) |
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| 01:18.26 | herlimenezes | ok, the weird thing is that some applications work perfectly... |
| 01:18.57 | herlimenezes | but applications like Kdissert, and ktwitter dont. |
| 01:19.12 | AlexZion | I use Kde in italian ...., what's happen |
| 01:19.14 | herlimenezes | *kdetwitter |
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| 01:20.14 | herlimenezes | AlexZion: some special portuguese characters does not appear, like (ã, õ, á, é, ó ê...) |
| 01:20.56 | herlimenezes | At Kde setting I can get only english-us... |
| 01:21.01 | herlimenezes | *settings |
| 01:21.08 | AlexZion | ahh ok , we don't have some special character ...,so I can't help .. :( |
| 01:21.18 | herlimenezes | ok, tnx |
| 01:21.43 | herlimenezes | Ok, I must go now. Many thanks! |
| 01:21.51 | true | Good luck to you |
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| 01:45.39 | true | anyone have any idea why, when logging out then back in, my panel changes from the previous session are no longer saved? |
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| 02:31.15 | MagicDuck | hi, is there a reference anywhere for what activates the krunner plugins. For example, I only found out that "=" activates the calculator by experimenting |
| 02:33.45 | Jucato | MagicDuck: http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Krunner has some. please feel free to add your discoveries for the benefit of others :D |
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| 02:39.52 | jkells | Hi does KDE provide an applet for connecting to wireless networks. I am running an SVN build. I had one in kubuntu but that might have been provided downstream. |
| 02:41.41 | navetz_ | guys my digital camera records videos that are extreamly large, is there a way i can make them smaller without losing to much quality? |
| 02:43.18 | MagicDuck | thx Jucato |
| 02:43.27 | phobos_anomaly | jkells: did you try network-manager-kde? |
| 02:43.41 | phobos_anomaly | or kwifi |
| 02:44.59 | phobos_anomaly | navetz_: Why not convert them to another format like avi or mpg? |
| 02:45.39 | navetz_ | phobos_anomaly: they are already mpg's by default, what other formats would be smaller? |
| 02:46.00 | phobos_anomaly | navetz_: how big are they? |
| 02:46.20 | Jucato | phobos_anomaly, jkells: neither network-manager-kde nor kwifi is soemthing that KDE ships. there's kwlan from extragear, though I'm not sure about it's status. so you'll have to use a 3rd party KDE program/applet |
| 02:46.46 | navetz_ | phobos_anomaly: well my 45 second clip is about 30MB |
| 02:47.00 | navetz_ | phobos_anomaly: actually its 57 mb |
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| 02:48.09 | phobos_anomaly | navetz_: I'm not a video editing expert, but I think .avi should shrink it down. #linux could probably tell you how to use mplayer or something like that to convert them. |
| 02:48.23 | navetz_ | phobos_anomaly: alright thanks |
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| 02:49.08 | jebbajeb | 4.2.2 rocks. thx :) |
| 02:49.20 | Jucato | jebbajeb: time to update to 4.2.3 ;) |
| 02:49.35 | jebbajeb | heh, i saw that. when debian testing does i will.... :) |
| 02:49.52 | jebbajeb | just got 4.2.x going, thats plenty. quite amazing. |
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| 02:50.03 | jebbajeb | havent really used kde since 1x or so... |
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| 02:59.02 | splinter | how can i "hard-sub" my annotations into a pdf? |
| 02:59.08 | splinter | i'm using okular to make the pdf annotations |
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| 03:18.58 | dotCOMmie | I'm running kde4 on debian testing and having some problem with tranparency in panels. It works when I toggle "desktop effects" but if I log out and in transparency dissapears (no pun intended). |
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| 03:21.35 | bogdan | hi, running kde 4.2.3 and kopete won't let me start webcam |
| 03:22.10 | bogdan | if I go in the configuration window, webcam works, but there is no way to start it (no button) when talking to somebody |
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| 03:28.51 | drantin | splinter: iirc, okular's annotations won't show up in other pdf readers... |
| 03:30.02 | ritek | Hi, running KDE 4.2.3 too and i noticed that when i write in japanese on a memo widget de desktop restarts (other programs and windows keep running) |
| 03:30.50 | ritek | i have to copy-paste something to the memo because of that error, i remember that i didn't have this problem on KDE 4.1 |
| 03:31.08 | ritek | running Fedora 10 64bit |
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| 03:31.50 | wobudu | How can I disable stupid, annoying, jumpy icon when launching programs |
| 03:32.07 | wobudu | This shit is all over my screen |
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| 03:33.19 | drantin | wobudu: in systemsettings, type "launch feedback" into the search bar |
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| 03:35.01 | wobudu | drantin: Thanks man |
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| 03:36.43 | bogdan | has anybody been able to get webcam working under kde 4.2.3 with kopete? |
| 03:38.16 | splinter | so okular's annotations are kde specific? are you sure about that? i know adobe has annotations as well, but i don't know if they are any part of a standard |
| 03:38.37 | tstaerk2 | bogdan, not tried, but first thing you need is a video device - you have that? |
| 03:38.48 | drantin | splinter: i'll see if I can find the reference... |
| 03:38.53 | bogdan | yes |
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| 03:39.14 | splinter | drantin: thanks |
| 03:39.25 | drantin | adobe's annotations aren't that great either... if you use anything other than an adobe product to annotate them, you break the EULA when you open it with adobe reader... |
| 03:39.36 | bogdan | I can view my own webcam if I go to Settings --> Configure --> Video |
| 03:40.10 | bogdan | but when I'm in a chat window, I see no option that allows me to send webcam to the person I'm having a conversation with |
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| 03:41.00 | drantin | splinter: well, Jucato's blog mentions it here: http://jucato.org/blog/140/ under section 2, but I've seen a reference elsewhere as well... |
| 03:41.03 | tstaerk2 | which chat? |
| 03:41.22 | tstaerk2 | I mean with ICQ it is not possible afaik |
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| 03:42.01 | drantin | splinter: if you just need the annotations hard coded into the pdf, you could print it from okular to a pdf printer |
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| 03:43.14 | bogdan | msn |
| 03:46.00 | splinter | drantin: oh yeah, that works. i don't know of a good pdf editor on linux... or any platform for that matter when it comes to formless pdf files |
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| 03:46.48 | splinter | i want to fill out a physical form (like it asks for my name, place of residence, etc. but it's not a bunch of labeled fields) in a way that it looks fairly professional coming out of it |
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| 03:50.35 | pingveno | I'm thinking about installing KDE 4 on a Pentium III computer running Gentoo. I've tried using other desktop environments but I'm just more comfortable in KDE. Is that a bad idea, resource wise? |
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| 03:53.12 | wobudu | pingveno: Very bad idea, kde4 is bloody slow even on modern systems |
| 03:54.06 | pingveno | Would KDE 3 work, or should I just stick to light weight window managers for now? |
| 03:56.43 | joao | hi |
| 03:56.46 | joao | I am new on kde4 |
| 03:56.50 | joao | (second day) |
| 03:57.13 | splinter | whoa, who says kde4 is slow on modern systems? you must have a borked kde4 package because it's snappy here |
| 03:57.18 | joao | I did something here that when I try to run konsole from the menu or pannel, or from alt+f2, I get a "can't run ksystraycmd" |
| 03:57.22 | joao | and no konsole :-( |
| 03:57.39 | joao | (my workaround is start an xterm, and from it I call a konsole, which then works) |
| 03:58.38 | wobudu | splinter: snappy, as xp to vista |
| 03:58.38 | joao | it started when I treid to drag the konsole from the kde menu to the pannel. It created the icon ther eallright, but never more worked |
| 03:58.43 | wobudu | lol |
| 03:59.01 | wobudu | kde4 is the slowest de out there |
| 03:59.31 | pingveno | I wonder if there are things I can disable to make it faster. :/ |
| 04:00.11 | pingveno | I'm using Gentoo so the compile will be hella slow, but I might be able to disable things via USE flags |
| 04:01.02 | splinter | haha, gentoo is the reason i'm not using kde4 on my old desktop |
| 04:01.11 | splinter | major upgrades are a major pita on gentoo |
| 04:01.15 | pingveno | Yeha |
| 04:01.17 | pingveno | Yeah* |
| 04:01.25 | pingveno | I'm kinda regretting putting it on. |
| 04:01.38 | wobudu | try archlinux |
| 04:01.40 | splinter | pingveno: see if you can salvage your data and get arch |
| 04:01.47 | wobudu | stop wasting time with gentto |
| 04:01.50 | wobudu | gentoo* |
| 04:01.57 | pingveno | It's tempting |
| 04:02.09 | splinter | wobudu: right, well until i see concrete evidence, i'll stick to my anecdote that kde4 is not slow on modern machines |
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| 04:02.40 | splinter | pingveno: there are a few packages i can't find anywhere outside of gentoo, but you can always create a PKGBUILD for arch, or something similar for other systems. |
| 04:03.26 | joao | splinter: it is fast enough here for most things |
| 04:03.46 | pingveno | How long does Arch take to install? I want to keep my installing time to a minimum. |
| 04:03.56 | joao | although, some critical apps are slow, and then it can build that impression |
| 04:03.56 | joao | (kopete and konqueror for me) |
| 04:04.01 | pingveno | Granted installing KDE on Gentoo would take a day... |
| 04:04.02 | splinter | not long, but your mileage may vary |
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| 04:04.11 | pingveno | So, like, an hour? |
| 04:04.22 | splinter | oh, the time you save by not having to compile everything is vastly outweighed by the installation time |
| 04:04.38 | splinter | pingveno: depends on how quick of a learner you are. i suspect the gentoo -> arch transition will be fairly easy |
| 04:04.39 | blauzahl-laptop | gets faster every svn up! :D |
| 04:05.12 | wobudu | i'm using svn kde4 on arch atm |
| 04:05.16 | blauzahl-laptop | i don't know if you saw seli's blog, but he did some nice optimizations that should make it into 4.3 |
| 04:06.04 | pingveno | splinter: I had a good grasp of JavaScript within two days of starting to use it. I think I can do Gentoo -> Arch reasonably easily. :) |
| 04:06.24 | blauzahl-laptop | you need to know javascript to switch? |
| 04:07.04 | pingveno | ha |
| 04:07.21 | pingveno | No, I'm just using that of an example of how quickly I learn. ;) |
| 04:07.31 | blauzahl-laptop | oh |
| 04:07.39 | blauzahl-laptop | wonders what you were reading |
| 04:08.48 | pingveno | just used some tutorials and code samples. |
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| 04:09.16 | pingveno | WOw |
| 04:09.19 | pingveno | Wow* |
| 04:09.23 | pingveno | "In keeping with the Arch commitment to the KISS principle, the Arch Linux installer is simply a shell script using dialog for user interaction (~ 10?15 minutes)." |
| 04:09.37 | splinter | eh, double it to be safe |
| 04:09.40 | pingveno | That was from Arch Linux's Wikipedia page. |
| 04:09.50 | pingveno | Obviously written by an Arch fan.... |
| 04:09.58 | splinter | seriously |
| 04:10.35 | splinter | my linear algebra professor used to have as one of his rules of time management: "However long you think it'll take you, double it." |
| 04:11.04 | pingveno | Or, in engineering, triple it. |
| 04:11.52 | blauzahl-laptop | pingveno: i think my question really is "which tutorials?" but maybe this should get tossed to #kde-chat |
| 04:12.36 | blauzahl-laptop | joao: i haven't seen that problem with that error message, but i've had it. |
| 04:13.28 | joao | blauzahl-laptop: so, apparently the "ksystraycmd" got issconfigured for konsole - -any idea where I can reset this configuration? |
| 04:13.46 | joao | *missconfigured |
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| 04:14.03 | pingveno | blauzahl-laptop: I don't remember. |
| 04:14.09 | sgon | (opensuse 11.1), for all kde applications (such as kate, kwrite, kontact etc..), when I highlight (select) some chars (words), and change the focus to anther window, when the focus is changed back, the selected (highlighted) words will be deleted. do anyone meet this issue? I have met this issue in both opensuse 11.0 and 11.1 and in two different laptops. |
| 04:15.21 | blauzahl-laptop | joao: maybe i misunderstand you. you hit alt-f2 or K, and you do or don't get anything? |
| 04:15.21 | sgon | Qt: 4.4.3 KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2) "release 112" |
| 04:15.59 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: whoa. are those all opensuse machines? |
| 04:16.00 | joao | no, if I hit alt-f2, I get the prompt, allright. But if I type "konsole" ther, I get this error message, and no konsole app |
| 04:16.24 | joao | (alt-f2 kwrite<enter> works, for example) |
| 04:16.34 | sgon | blauzahl-laptop, yeah, those are opensuse machines. |
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| 04:16.56 | sgon | this is very annoyed. due to this problem, I can not use any kde applications for one year already.... |
| 04:16.58 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: i don't get that, so i'd check their bugtracker and look for a workaround & a report. |
| 04:17.28 | blauzahl-laptop | that's not something i've seen a bug report on... which is a bit odd |
| 04:17.33 | joao | sgon: strange...likley a Sues missconfiguration. I sa w nothign like that here |
| 04:18.01 | blauzahl-laptop | ksystraycmd. |
| 04:18.02 | joao | sgon: If soemthing like this was happonign ti me , I'd check teh options on "klipper" |
| 04:18.11 | sgon | blauzahl-laptop, I am just a normal linux user. not sure how to check those info. I even don't know what English keywords to use for search. thank god you can understand my description.... |
| 04:18.31 | blauzahl-laptop | you're doing pretty well. :) |
| 04:18.41 | joao | blauzahl-laptop: Yes, ksystraycmd is my villain here |
| 04:19.03 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: if that were in kde-svn i'd have heard people scream madly |
| 04:19.27 | sgon | it's odd. If it only happens in one machine or one distribution, I may think something wrong with my drivers. but it happens in two different laptops.... I bought a new laptop to achieve good Linux performance recently. but... |
| 04:19.27 | blauzahl-laptop | i'd still think i would have, but... |
| 04:19.31 | joao | sgon: the klipper is an aplication which deals with the selections. It sits on the tray, next to the clock. |
| 04:19.41 | joao | sgon: you could try closing it, if it is running |
| 04:19.58 | blauzahl-laptop | you can try asking on #opensuse-kde it should at least tell you where their bugtracker is. |
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| 04:20.26 | sgon | joao, thanks. I am using gnome because of this issue. let me use ps to find out whether it's runng. |
| 04:20.36 | blauzahl-laptop | oh! does that only happen on applications that are kde-native? like wht happens with firefox or something? |
| 04:20.40 | sgon | blauzahl-laptop, I asked. but nobody active so far. |
| 04:21.05 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: they're in europe, and will wake up ...actually, kinda soonish. :) |
| 04:21.06 | sgon | blauzahl-laptop, it only happens in kde applications. maybe all qt applications. all gtk apps are fine. |
| 04:22.33 | sgon | joao, I am using gnome now. by doing ps -ef | grep -i klipper, no klipper application running |
| 04:22.58 | joao | hmm... so.. run it :-) |
| 04:23.14 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: i'd say give them 3-4 hours to wake up. |
| 04:23.41 | sgon | joao, the problem still happens..... |
| 04:23.42 | deusr | joao, brazuca? |
| 04:24.01 | deusr | joao, you are brasileiro? |
| 04:24.03 | joao | deusr: yeap |
| 04:24.05 | pingveno | Okay, here goes. Arch time! |
| 04:24.11 | deusr | joao, blz ;) |
| 04:24.32 | joao | sgon: sorry.. I have no further ideas. |
| 04:24.44 | blauzahl-laptop | sgon: and you shouldn't be scared to file bug reports. :) broken english is fine, and yours is pretty good. |
| 04:25.13 | sgon | I don't think it's anything to do with klipper... this issue is very critical. because I don't dare to edit and input anything in qt apps which can delete words/strings without purpose. |
| 04:25.28 | sgon | joao, no worries. thanks for your help. |
| 04:25.39 | blauzahl-laptop | i guess picking keywords on that is hard. "focus"... :P |
| 04:25.39 | sgon | blauzahl-laptop, thanks a lot for your words and encourage. ^_^ |
| 04:25.49 | blauzahl-laptop | :) |
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| 04:27.24 | blauzahl-laptop | jucato: do you have any thoughts on ksystraycmd? |
| 04:27.43 | blauzahl-laptop | i guess in my case i can't pull it up... :D |
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| 05:34.54 | gkffjcs_ | non encrypted |
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| 05:36.32 | caotic | ? |
| 05:36.44 | ultrav1olet | There are two phonon versions available - one in KDE support modules, another one comes with Qt library. Which one is the preferable? |
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| 06:04.52 | VagaStorm | hi, dos anyone know if thers any way to use the desktop theme for window decorations? My desktop theeme looks way better than any of my window decorations, and I know some plasmoids use that theme on windows sort of.... (this is kde 4) |
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| 06:16.09 | PiousMinion | Does kde have it's own remote desktop server? I'm usually a gnome user so I'm a little stumped as where to find it. |
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| 06:20.21 | aseigo | PiousMinion: krfb |
| 06:20.32 | aseigo | PiousMinion: really poorly named, but it does the trick... |
| 06:20.49 | aseigo | VagaStorm: there is no way currently, no |
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| 06:21.11 | PiousMinion | actually, just found it, but viewing the desktop from windows or my other linux box gives me a very distorted view. :( |
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| 06:22.43 | PiousMinion | This might be an kubuntu thing though. very odd |
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| 06:42.37 | mickru | I have a question regarding KDE social desktop design plans ... |
| 06:43.05 | mickru | has anyone thought about starting with a "Send via email..." menu option in KDE applications? |
| 06:43.19 | mickru | That's what I would really like to show up |
| 06:44.37 | mickru | any other plans for the social desktop would simply be ice on the cake |
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| 07:01.06 | p-f | sound works fine when I use mplayer or flash, but when using Amarok or any KDE-related applications, I get "The audio playback device HDA Intel Sigmatel STAC9200 does not work. Falling back to default." What could be causing this? |
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| 07:06.45 | Dhraakellian | Other than the kde4/Qt4 gtk-qt-engine, what GTK theme looks most like Oxygen? |
| 07:07.13 | Dhraakellian | (working well with dark color schemes would be a bonus) |
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| 07:20.23 | kage-ookami | how do I change the kwallet settings in 4.2.3? I dont see kwallet in the System Settings. |
| 07:20.44 | messerting | kage-ookami: right click the tray icon? |
| 07:21.08 | messerting | (first start kwalletmanager) |
| 07:21.16 | kage-ookami | messerting: I don't really see a kwallet icon - ah ok. |
| 07:21.24 | cb400f | kage-ookami: it's in systemsettings under advanced here |
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| 07:22.29 | kage-ookami | I dont have a kwalletmanager (only kwalletd) and under Advanced settings is no kwallet stuff either -.- |
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| 07:22.40 | kage-ookami | cb400f: you speaking about 4.2.3? |
| 07:22.59 | cb400f | yes.. opensuse packages |
| 07:23.19 | kage-ookami | hmm - gentoo ^^ Did I miss a package to install? |
| 07:23.51 | messerting | kage-ookami: hm, I'm running kde 4.2.2 (Fedora rawhide). maybe something changed? |
| 07:24.04 | VagaStorm | aseigo: Thanx :) a pitty tho :/ |
| 07:24.15 | kage-ookami | messerting: I installed the package kwalletd, but missed the package kwallet >,< |
| 07:24.20 | aseigo | VagaStorm: maybe one day :) |
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| 07:24.43 | aseigo | VagaStorm: a few smal pieces missing in kwin to really make it plausible i think, but fewer than in 4.2, so we're getting there |
| 07:25.59 | VagaStorm | aseigo: Nice :) |
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| 07:27.43 | messerting | kage-ookami: It seems "kwalletmanager" is in the package kdeutils-4.2.2-4.fc11.x86_64 |
| 07:27.56 | messerting | at least in Fedora... |
| 07:28.00 | Zarin | aseigo, mgraesslin is making a "Plasma" deco. I don't think it's a true Plasma one though, it just uses the SVG frames |
| 07:28.25 | kage-ookami | messerting: there is a package kde-base/kwalletd and kde-base/kwallet for gentoo, I miss the second. |
| 07:28.41 | kage-ookami | messerting: kwalletmanager was the package name for KDE3.5 |
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| 07:29.15 | kage-ookami | yep - got it now... |
| 07:29.21 | messerting | kage-ookami: ok, good :) |
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| 07:31.32 | kage-ookami | hmm, and how do I change the kwallet password? >,< Don't see that option in the manager. |
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| 07:49.13 | messerting | kage-ookami: I think you have to left-click on the icon, and then change the password on the default wallet or something |
| 07:49.34 | messerting | yep, right-click the default wallet |
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| 07:51.07 | tmske | Hi, I'm wondering if there is a possibility to let the Device Notifier mount usb sticks always to the same position in 4.2.3 |
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| 08:09.40 | sgon | I have asked the question in opensuse-kde channel. nobody met the problem before and no solution. I am wondering if anybody here have any suggestions what may cause this? moving focus out and in (away and back), the selected/highlight text in QT apps will be deleted..... |
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| 08:26.31 | annma | sgon: only Qt apps? not KDE ones? |
| 08:27.31 | sgon | annma, I am not sure what different btw QT app and KDE app. I thought they are the same... I found it happens in all kde app and qt apps. eg: kwrite, kate, kontact, qtconfig, etc... |
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| 08:28.34 | annma | I just tried with konqueror, it stays fo rme |
| 08:28.49 | annma | can it be a setting somewhere? do you use desktop effects? |
| 08:28.59 | annma | is it a new and first install? |
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| 08:30.37 | sgon | annma, nobody in IRC channel has this problem. I don't know why I met it. I met it in two different laptops with different kde installation. I can't guarantee it happens in fresh install because I didn't check it at the first day of installation. since I met this issue in two different distribution and laptops, I assume it should happen in fresh install. just an assumption. |
| 08:31.05 | sgon | I should say that it doesn't happen in konsole terminal. I think the konsole terminal is not using QT. |
| 08:31.47 | annma | I have a fresh install |
| 08:31.51 | annma | from KDE svn sources |
| 08:31.56 | sgon | it happens in konsole terminal preference. but not inside the terminal. |
| 08:32.30 | annma | in konsole terminal preference? |
| 08:32.44 | sgon | annma, do you have any ideas what may cause it and how to debug? I am thinking to manually remove alll kde pkgs. if I have no other choices.... |
| 08:32.49 | annma | how do you highlight text here? |
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| 08:33.08 | annma | not sure what you are talking about to be frank |
| 08:33.20 | annma | I don't highlight/select text in Preferences dialogs |
| 08:34.08 | sgon | annma, eg: konsole --> setting --> edit current profile, highlight anything there and move focus out and in, for me, highliht text will be deleted. basically, all qt GUI apps have this issue. |
| 08:34.32 | annma | "highlight anything there " ??? |
| 08:34.39 | annma | why do you want to do that? |
| 08:34.59 | sgon | annma, just to prove this problem happens in all qt apps. |
| 08:35.22 | annma | what about konqueror |
| 08:35.34 | sgon | annma, I tried many qt apps. all qt apps I tried have this problem. let me try konqueror. wait a second. |
| 08:35.39 | annma | how do you "move focus" |
| 08:35.48 | annma | explain in details |
| 08:36.36 | annma | I do as you say with konsole and I call another window and when I get back to konsole, the text is still highlighted |
| 08:36.40 | sgon | annma, just tried knoqueror, it also happens. in URL field, press something, highlight and move focus, text will be gone. |
| 08:37.01 | annma | I highlight Terminal in the lineedit |
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| 08:37.15 | annma | in URL? not on the webpage? |
| 08:37.21 | annma | so only in line edits? |
| 08:37.54 | annma | usually you hiughlight content on a webpage to copy/paste it for ex |
| 08:38.02 | sgon | annma, I do believe you don't have this issue because nobody has it in IRC except me. (move focus means : alt+tab or if I enable focus followed by mouse. simply move the mouse out and in. nothing click and press) |
| 08:38.23 | annma | what about text in konqueror |
| 08:38.44 | annma | open a webpage, hightlight some text in the page |
| 08:39.03 | sgon | I tried konqueror and open a webpage (www.google.com). the higlhgt text in textfield will also be deleted. |
| 08:39.25 | annma | you have that on 2 installs? same distro? |
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| 08:40.13 | sgon | annma, not the same distribution. one is opensuse 11.0, thinkpad z60m, ATI. another one is opensuse 11.1, ASUS N50, Nvidia. |
| 08:40.35 | annma | using KDE as deskttop? |
| 08:40.38 | annma | desktop |
| 08:40.47 | annma | using KDE with native KWin? |
| 08:41.01 | sgon | the normal text in webpage will not be deleted for sure. but the textfield (user input ) highlight can be deleted. this problem happens in both kde and gnome desktop. |
| 08:41.13 | sgon | annma, it happens with and without compositing. |
| 08:41.44 | annma | also on gnome then |
| 08:41.56 | annma | so it's not a kde problem |
| 08:42.02 | sgon | yeah, qt app in gnome. all GTK applications are fine |
| 08:42.02 | annma | google for it |
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| 08:42.26 | sgon | GTK applications don't have the problem. such as firefox, gedit etc... are all fine. |
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| 08:42.37 | sgon | I did google, no result.... |
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| 08:42.50 | Qrawl | Hello. How do I run a .py file in Dolphin |
| 08:45.47 | Qrawl | wake up |
| 08:46.06 | annma | what happens when you click on it? |
| 08:46.12 | annma | and be patient |
| 08:46.27 | Qrawl | theyre not associated with any python things |
| 08:46.31 | Qrawl | only text editors, etc |
| 08:46.43 | Qrawl | same with .jar files, no option to run with Java |
| 08:46.48 | sgon | are there any ways to check what actions and events called during a scenario? not sure if anyone can understand what I mean.... If somehow I can record and check, I will know what actually happens when I move the focus aways and back. |
| 08:46.56 | annma | just right click on it and edit properties |
| 08:47.06 | Qrawl | to what |
| 08:47.17 | Qrawl | I already tried adding 'python' |
| 08:47.18 | annma | what do you want it to do? |
| 08:47.20 | Qrawl | it didnt work |
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| 08:47.31 | Qrawl | I want to clikc it in Dolphin to run the .py file |
| 08:48.10 | Qrawl | the .py file is set to executable |
| 08:48.30 | Qrawl | but python isnt associated with .py files at all for some reason |
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| 08:50.51 | annma | associate it in System Settings |
| 08:51.10 | domk | Rightclick on the file, go to properties, and then click on the symbol to edit the file type |
| 08:51.23 | Qrawl | its already working in Nautilus |
| 08:51.32 | Qrawl | so I dont think system associating would be needed |
| 08:51.45 | Qrawl | and then what |
| 08:51.47 | domk | and then add python on top of the list |
| 08:51.51 | Qrawl | I did |
| 08:51.59 | Qrawl | well, I just typed python |
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| 08:52.29 | Qrawl | ok, let me try it |
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| 08:52.51 | Qrawl | nothings happening |
| 08:52.58 | Qrawl | I just see a bouncing blue/yellow icor |
| 08:52.58 | yunosh | hi, what's the replacement for kprinter in kde4? |
| 08:53.02 | Qrawl | icon, then it quits |
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| 08:53.53 | domk | what does the python-script you are trying to run? |
| 08:53.57 | annma | and the .py script is not run? |
| 08:54.01 | Qrawl | no |
| 08:54.05 | Qrawl | it has a GUI |
| 08:54.17 | Qrawl | it works by starting it from Nautilus or console |
| 08:54.24 | Qrawl | but I cant get it to work from Dolphin |
| 08:54.33 | Mamarok | Qrawl: I can run .py executables from Dolphin... |
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| 08:54.49 | Mamarok | just tested it |
| 08:54.50 | Qrawl | your Open With already has Python? |
| 08:54.55 | domk | my settings look like this -> http://imagebin.ca/view/N5THv_UC.html and it works fine |
| 08:55.07 | Mamarok | no, I went to other, then typed python and it did run |
| 08:55.18 | Qrawl | mine didnt |
| 08:55.24 | Qrawl | I installed it on Ubuntu though |
| 08:55.31 | Qrawl | maybe I need some kind of KDE version |
| 08:55.54 | Mamarok | Qrawl: what does it doe actually? |
| 08:55.58 | Mamarok | -e |
| 08:56.07 | Qrawl | it has a GUI |
| 08:56.14 | Qrawl | that runs in Ubuntu and from console |
| 08:56.18 | Mamarok | Qrawl: you mean it starts a gui? |
| 08:56.20 | Qrawl | yeah |
| 08:56.53 | Qrawl | is there some special kde4 thing I have to install for python |
| 08:57.00 | sgon | anybody has any ideas how to debug my problem? it only happens in QT GUI apps. It does NOT happen in GTK apps. |
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| 08:58.22 | linuxstudio | hello! i am using sidux with kde 4 and wondered if it is possbale to set up the windows so if you drag the title bar when a window is maximesed it resizes the window to the previous size. This happens in gnome and i am mising it alot. cheers |
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| 08:59.13 | Qrawl | hm |
| 08:59.18 | Qrawl | I'll try installing python-kde4 |
| 08:59.21 | annma | sgon: try Suse forums |
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| 08:59.42 | annma | sgon: try a live CD for another distro |
| 08:59.44 | Qrawl | damn, its already installed |
| 08:59.57 | annma | python is al you need |
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| 09:00.36 | Qrawl | I wonder why its not working |
| 09:00.55 | annma | run dolphin from konsole |
| 09:00.56 | linuxstudio | any experts in window behaviour settings for KDE4? i need help :) |
| 09:01.07 | annma | then click on your .py file |
| 09:01.12 | sgon | annma, OK. but I really want to know what causes it. it does NOT matter whether it can be fixed or not. the problem is driving me crazy, and around me for more than 1 year. |
| 09:01.15 | annma | look konsole output Qrawl |
| 09:01.18 | Qrawl | ok |
| 09:01.30 | annma | sgon: no idea |
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| 09:01.49 | annma | if you try other distros you would know if it's a distro thing |
| 09:02.05 | sgon | annma, thanks a lot..... |
| 09:02.11 | linuxstudio | Please dont ignore me, otherwise i will have to go back to gnome. I know you guys dont want that! hehe |
| 09:02.19 | annma | lame |
| 09:02.23 | psteyn | fine |
| 09:02.24 | linuxstudio | yep |
| 09:02.26 | annma | just go back to gnome then |
| 09:02.35 | Qrawl | how do I run dolphin from konsole. when I type dolphin, it just starts dolphin, but console goes back to a ready prompt |
| 09:02.39 | psteyn | we aren't ignoring you, you arent being specfic, ask a question dont ask to ask |
| 09:02.41 | Mamarok | linuxstudio: threatening is very effecient... |
| 09:02.52 | linuxstudio | defintely :) |
| 09:02.59 | annma | besides we love gnome |
| 09:03.04 | linuxstudio | ok |
| 09:03.06 | Mamarok | linuxstudio: ask your question and be patient, if somebody knows the answer you will get it |
| 09:03.17 | linuxstudio | i know, sorry to be such a kid |
| 09:03.23 | Mamarok | right |
| 09:03.28 | psteyn | luhlwhud |
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| 09:04.00 | Qrawl | i cant see any error output b ecause dolphin just starts |
| 09:04.08 | Qrawl | and console ends |
| 09:04.36 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 09:04.43 | Qrawl | Error |
| 09:06.04 | psteyn | Qrawl: try running it normally and looking at /var/log/kdm.log ~/.xsession-errors for errors |
| 09:06.25 | Qrawl | ok |
| 09:07.43 | Qrawl | is the newest at the top |
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| 09:11.36 | Qrawl | oh well, I give up |
| 09:11.39 | Qrawl | thanks anyway |
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| 09:12.49 | Fanfare | Hi @ all |
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| 09:16.03 | jkells | Hi Fanfare |
| 09:16.27 | Fanfare | Hi jkells |
| 09:16.44 | Fanfare | Where to report broken links on www.kde.org? |
| 09:17.06 | Mamarok | Fanfare: to the webmaster, link at the bottom |
| 09:18.05 | Fanfare | k. but there used to be a channel somewhen... |
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| 09:19.18 | Mamarok | Fanfare: #kde-www |
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| 09:20.19 | Fanfare | Mamarok: thx, didnt find that in my list... |
| 09:20.50 | linuxstudio | i dont think kde supports my preferred windiw behaviour :( |
| 09:21.02 | Mamarok | Fanfare: usually the kde channels start with kde- |
| 09:21.33 | Mamarok | linuxstudio: you didn't even tell what you are looking for, how on earth should we know? |
| 09:23.20 | Fanfare | Mamarok: :-) how should i know :-) guess ive overseen it |
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| 09:24.37 | Mamarok | Fanfare: I just try to join and see by myself if it's there or not :) |
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| 09:43.30 | longkui | hello |
| 09:44.18 | longkui | anybody there |
| 09:44.32 | pinotree | hi, just ask |
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| 09:49.39 | sgon | annma, still there? I found something new on my problem. |
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| 09:52.29 | martian67 | hi, in kde 3.5.x how do i add a url handler, for instance when i open http://www.example.com/example.jpg it opens in kuickshow |
| 09:52.45 | martian67 | how can i add something to that behaviour, not just file extention based either? |
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| 09:57.52 | longkui | is there anyone who ever play the game named Battle For Wesnoth |
| 09:58.08 | longkui | i cannot install it |
| 09:58.16 | martian67 | not a kde problem |
| 09:58.23 | martian67 | check your distro specific channel |
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| 10:00.40 | longkui | i download the wesnoth-1.6.2.tar.bz2 |
| 10:00.49 | longkui | and ./configure |
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| 10:03.50 | longkui | but i also upgrade them ,but nothing worked,help me |
| 10:04.53 | pumphaus | no |
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| 10:07.31 | longkui | is there anyone who can introduce me about SYSTEM ENGNEER |
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| 10:08.52 | kovan | how do I make KDE4 apps look like GTK apps? |
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| 10:09.20 | Mamarok | kovan: why would you want to do that? |
| 10:10.33 | pumphaus | kovan: if you have qt 4.5, just choose the GTK+ style in qtconfig |
| 10:10.41 | pumphaus | or systemsettings |
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| 10:12.39 | kovan | pumphaus: apps don't use whatever style I set in qtconfig |
| 10:12.52 | pumphaus | kovan: then set in in systemsettings |
| 10:12.55 | kovan | and i don't have systemsettings installed |
| 10:13.06 | kovan | actually i installed it but it's empty |
| 10:13.23 | kovan | i guess u0ve gessed im using gnome by now |
| 10:13.24 | kovan | :D |
| 10:14.25 | Mamarok | kovan: maybe ask in gnome then? |
| 10:15.02 | pinotree | using gnome does not matter at all, just install systemsettings and use it |
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| 10:18.14 | kovan | pinotree: what is the systemsettings submodule for themes? |
| 10:18.22 | pinotree | style |
| 10:18.23 | kovan | i installed it but only have icons |
| 10:18.32 | kovan | i mean inside style |
| 10:18.51 | kovan | 1 sec |
| 10:19.25 | pumphaus | kovan: alternatively change the entry "widgetStyle" to gtk in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals and ~/.kde/share/config/systemsettingsrc |
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| 10:24.53 | ShishKabab | Hi. If there are some notifications in KDE 4.2 that won't go away, how do kill them? |
| 10:26.08 | Mamarok | ShishKabab: what notifications? |
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| 10:27.50 | ShishKabab | Mamarok: Some Kopete notification that there are new messages in a chatwindow in the background. I already saw the messages. I can press view or ignore as many times as I want but they won't go. |
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| 10:28.54 | picachu | shit guys, why can't you make a migration tool for kmail 3.5 to kmail 4.2 kde transition |
| 10:29.01 | picachu | i've lost all my imap accs |
| 10:29.27 | picachu | now tell me how do i minimize kmail in tray, as it was with kmail 3.5.x |
| 10:29.40 | picachu | and receive notifications in kmail tray icon when new mail arrives |
| 10:30.52 | picachu | okay, at least xchat is in tray . what a pleasure |
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| 10:32.51 | Mamarok | ShishKabab: tried to kill it with Ctrl+Esc? |
| 10:33.24 | Mamarok | ShishKabab: it might kill Kopete as well though... |
| 10:33.56 | ShishKabab | Mamarok: knotify4? |
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| 10:34.28 | Mamarok | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:36.07 | ShishKabab | Mamarok: It won't die! :) I killed it twice. I'm going to try it with the command line. |
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| 10:38.43 | ShishKabab | Mamarok: It just restarts. I could of course restart X, but I was looking for a more elegant solution :) |
| 10:39.57 | linuxstudio | Hi Mamarok -> i am using sidux with kde 4 and wondered if it is possbale to set up the windows so if you drag the title bar when a window is maximised it resizes the window to the previous size. This happens in gnome and i am mising it alot. cheers |
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| 10:41.08 | linuxstudio | I can only see option to allow maximised windows to be dragged but they do not revert to teh pre-maximised size when i drag them |
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| 10:42.43 | linuxstudio | this is under computer / settings in kde4 kickoff menu |
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| 10:44.41 | linuxstudio | on sidux, when you double click the title bar it rolls up like a blind. I changed this to double click = maximise window. This is much more elgant for me. Mac is worse, double click the title bar and the window minimises! and your stuck with that! I think gnome have got this right |
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| 10:45.19 | pinotree | there's no right or wrong, there's what fits better _for each person_ |
| 10:45.40 | makmanalp | i'm in an odd situation where the kopete configure dialog is not appearing |
| 10:45.50 | makmanalp | checking whether if it's from the theme ... |
| 10:46.43 | linuxstudio | i agree pino tree. However, these ae my prefernces and gnome is already set up like that! |
| 10:47.18 | linuxstudio | who can i speak to regarding window behavior optons and adding more? |
| 10:47.45 | longkui | woo cao ni men |
| 10:48.01 | makmanalp | yeah, it's not beacuse of the theme, i think it's a bug |
| 10:48.28 | longkui | I want to fuck you |
| 10:48.51 | pinotree | longkui: moderate your language |
| 10:49.08 | longkui | i'm sorry |
| 10:49.16 | cb400f | well.. it's easy to get excessively passionate about KDE ;-) |
| 10:49.20 | longkui | it's just my roommate |
| 10:49.33 | longkui | it's not me ,i promise u ,i'm really sorry |
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| 10:49.39 | pinotree | ok, np |
| 10:49.55 | Mamarok | linuxstudio: file a whish to bugs.kde.org? |
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| 10:55.19 | picachu | okay, there is an option in kmail's settings to put it into systray |
| 10:55.21 | picachu | fine |
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| 10:56.35 | linuxstudio | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:10.24 | xenoterracide | what's the command for system settings? or perhaps just of the login manager settings? |
| 11:10.30 | pinotree | systemsettings |
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| 11:19.02 | EvilGuru | Is it possible to set the KDE theme from GNOME sans kcontrol. For some reason KDE apps are ignoring my Qt theme (Qt apps are themed in GNOME, KDE ones are not.) |
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| 11:20.07 | xenoterracide | how do I get kdm to allow root logins? |
| 11:20.58 | Mamarok | xenoterracide: login in a gui as root is silly |
| 11:21.16 | xenoterracide | Mamarok: I want to use gparted to modify my home partition |
| 11:21.27 | xenoterracide | Mamarok: so not as silly as you think |
| 11:21.58 | Mamarok | xenoterracide: you can run it in a GUI, no need to log into a GUI to use that |
| 11:22.14 | Mamarok | "into a gui as root..." |
| 11:22.21 | xenoterracide | Mamarok: the problem is if I'm logged in as a user I can't umount /home |
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| 11:22.35 | xenoterracide | silly nerf |
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| 11:22.50 | xenoterracide | but roots home isn't in /home |
| 11:23.03 | Mamarok | xenoterracide: do as you like, but it still is silly... |
| 11:23.23 | Mamarok | xenoterracide: you can fire a live CD for that and repartition |
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| 11:23.58 | xenoterracide | Mamarok: I don't even need to reboot for this |
| 11:24.04 | xenoterracide | why should I boot to a livecd |
| 11:24.11 | MaNI | why not just run gparted as root then |
| 11:24.12 | MaNI | why the whole wm? |
| 11:24.12 | xenoterracide | which is effectively the same as root |
| 11:24.18 | EvilGuru | Is the only way of changing a theme through the Kcontrol centre then? |
| 11:24.27 | EvilGuru | (which I'd rather not install due to deps) |
| 11:24.43 | xenoterracide | MaNI: why not? why does it matter? |
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| 11:26.30 | MaNI | "kdesu gparted" |
| 11:26.31 | MaNI | ? |
| 11:26.53 | xenoterracide | MaNI: still having the problem of /home being mounted |
| 11:27.02 | xenoterracide | I have to log out of my user |
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| 11:27.08 | Mamarok | MaNI: he wants to repartition his /home... |
| 11:27.31 | domk | stop kdm then and just run startx as root |
| 11:27.49 | xenoterracide | I could do that I just don't know why I care about kdm blocking root in the first place |
| 11:27.55 | xenoterracide | no one else uses this box |
| 11:28.23 | lokojones | hey guys, just wanted to ask a silly question. Is there anyway to change unrar's or Ark's behaviour to put the compression date as timestamp for extracted files, instead of extraction date? |
| 11:28.25 | Mamarok | xenoterracide: security reasons, just to avoid users to log into the GUI as root and break everything |
| 11:28.45 | xenoterracide | no I'm asking why I care? how do /*I/ change that |
| 11:29.28 | Mamarok | gives up *sigh* |
| 11:29.47 | MaNI | why would you runt he whole wm as root when you can just run the one program as root and be done with it? |
| 11:30.12 | domk | go to the system settings -> log in manager and uncheck root in the not-allowed-box |
| 11:30.49 | xenoterracide | domk: where is this root not allowed box that I'm not seeing? |
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| 11:34.32 | kjelle | hello. I am trying to create a shortcut (e.g. ALT + R) to start Console in KDE 4.2.2 (Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04), but I seem to lack the skills to figure out how. Any tips? |
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| 11:36.11 | lokojones | guys, any idea why games perform about 30 - 40 % slower when run from KDE with effects on? |
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| 11:37.34 | xenoterracide | domk: if I set that right it didn't work... if it's supposed to it's bugged |
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| 11:38.30 | kjelle | Noone? |
| 11:38.53 | xenoterracide | domk: but thanks for trying anyways. these other guys think they know better than me. and refuse to answer questions. |
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| 11:40.09 | linuxstudio | typical techno types. They like to cuss others that do not know so much! :) |
| 11:40.54 | xenoterracide | I just don't know how to change kdm... don't recall this being set this way on my gentoo boxs |
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| 11:42.26 | pinotree | xenoterracide: http://josephshort.com/computer_stuff/how-to_enable_root_kdm.html |
| 11:43.47 | pinotree | a google search for "kdm root login" brings a heap of results |
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| 11:44.30 | kjelle | so it is impossible to create an arbitary shortcut in KDE 4.2.2, that will e.g. start konsole? |
| 11:45.08 | zak_ | my screensaver keeps asking me for a password eventhough i did not check '' require password to stop"" in sytem settings , how to resolve this ? |
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| 11:48.53 | lokojones | kjelle: you have to introduce a action |
| 11:48.56 | lokojones | in the system settings |
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| 11:50.24 | lokojones | system settings -> introduce action (if my translation is correct) -> right click on the left area -> new quick global access ->command |
| 11:50.40 | lokojones | (as I said, translation may be wrong, but hope you get the idea) |
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| 12:01.45 | xenoterracide | there partition resized |
| 12:01.59 | xenoterracide | someone should make a gui curses tool for that |
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| 12:11.30 | kjelle | lokojones: how? |
| 12:12.27 | kjelle | my Application > System Settings folder (from the start menu) is empty, except one folder: "Advanced" |
| 12:12.50 | kjelle | I did upgrade from ubuntu 8.04.2 to 9.04 yesterday ;) |
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| 12:22.06 | cemunal | hi all |
| 12:22.08 | cemunal | i installed amarok2 on xfce4 but it can't play any sound and i can't see shoutcast radios; how can i fix these? |
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| 12:29.17 | kjelle | Hello. Is Applications -> Systems Settings menu supposed to be empty? :p |
| 12:31.37 | SerpensV | kjelle: no |
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| 12:33.13 | kjelle | I updated my ubuntu 8.04.2 (kubuntu) to 9.04 yesterday, and Applications > System Settings is empty.. I cannot find e.g. KDE Control Center etc.. How do i corrigate this? |
| 12:33.27 | Peace- | wow |
| 12:33.34 | linuxstudio | corrigate, that a new one for me :) thx |
| 12:33.51 | Peace- | well 8.04 -->9.04 isn't too much |
| 12:34.09 | Peace- | maybe it was better 8.04 --8.10--9.04 |
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| 12:34.29 | Peace- | anyway MAYBE reinstalling kde-base |
| 12:34.57 | Peace- | renaming old configuration $HOME/.kde |
| 12:35.09 | Peace- | i have installed 9.04 from zero |
| 12:35.31 | kjelle | that adept updater asked me if i wanted to update to 9.04 (gui program), and i selected yes. i guess he did 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04? |
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| 12:35.48 | kjelle | it is extremely poorly made if a gui core application let you fubar your box.. |
| 12:36.09 | kjelle | Peace-: kk |
| 12:36.23 | kjelle | so move ~/.kde to something, and reinstall kde-base |
| 12:36.34 | Peace- | try i dunno |
| 12:36.41 | kjelle | k |
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| 12:38.10 | Peace- | kjelle: anyway i think for your question you should ask to #kubuntu |
| 12:38.15 | kjelle | mm |
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| 12:40.57 | Peace- | kjelle: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop |
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| 13:03.54 | rmrfchik | I wonder, why "gdb -p <kde-process>" gives the event loop in _glib_? |
| 13:04.01 | rmrfchik | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.21 | pinotree | because qt can integrate its event loop with glib's |
| 13:04.32 | rmrfchik | how? |
| 13:04.51 | pinotree | it uses its event loop |
| 13:04.58 | rmrfchik | o_O |
| 13:05.06 | pinotree | what's the problem? |
| 13:05.09 | rmrfchik | is there faq for this? |
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| 13:05.17 | rmrfchik | I just can't get the rational |
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| 13:05.36 | pinotree | so you can integrate glib stuff (like gstreamer) into qt applications |
| 13:06.45 | rmrfchik | shouldn't this be used only when you have to integrate? |
| 13:06.58 | pinotree | export QT_NO_GLIB=1 |
| 13:07.05 | pinotree | and the rest of the questions go to #qt |
| 13:07.18 | rmrfchik | ah, ok ;) |
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| 13:16.24 | yetifoot | i'm using kde 3.5.10 on debian squeeze/sid, and i have a problem, where everytime i minimize a window, it interferes with my mplayer and causes a small gap in the sound, even though it's not even that window, i don't get this problem in fluxbox or kde 4.2.2, is there anything i can do? |
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| 13:23.11 | joko | Hi, is it possible to create rules so that windows of a certain program appear in a certain desktop? |
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| 13:24.45 | pinotree | joko: right click on the tile bar of that window â advanced â special window settings |
| 13:28.36 | BeteNoire | how can you disable windows switchin on scrolling over taskbar in kde4? |
| 13:32.01 | aseigo | BeteNoire: no option at this time; in 4.4 we'll probably offer a global scrolling feature |
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| 13:40.38 | BeteNoire | aseigo: what do you mean by "global scrolling feature"? |
| 13:41.07 | aseigo | BeteNoire: having N different "turn off scrolling" toggles where N == number of widgets is pretty stupid |
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| 13:41.24 | aseigo | BeteNoire: so the plan is to just have one big switch that turns it off on all widgets simultaneously |
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| 13:44.53 | S0NiC | hi |
| 13:47.03 | kjelle | Peace-: what happens when i do reinstall of kubuntu-desktop? |
| 13:47.07 | kjelle | do i loose all my configuration etc etc+\ |
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| 13:48.12 | hype | Hi |
| 13:48.14 | hype | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.15 | hype | [16:40] <hype> how do i fix that? |
| 13:48.49 | S0NiC | hmm i have a strange problem and i hope thats the right channel, iam using gentoo linux and i have a lenovo t400 with 2 grphiccards ati and intel. with ati kde starts normaly and everything is fine, but if i use my intel card i geht the problem, that kde shows me the startup dialog and i hear the sound of starting kde but i see only the cursor, no background etc... any ideas whats wrong? |
| 13:48.51 | cb400f | kjelle: the users settings a completely unaffected by whatever you do with the pacagkes (install, remove, update, reinstall, doesn't matter) |
| 13:49.03 | kjelle | cb400f: ok, i'll try it then. |
| 13:49.12 | kjelle | cb400f: let's hope it gives me back the menus etc |
| 13:49.17 | Half-Left | kjelle: Ask in #kubuntu |
| 13:49.27 | kjelle | Half-Left: mkay |
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| 13:49.32 | cb400f | kjelle: .. of course that also means that if the settings are causing the problems, reinstallation won't change a thing |
| 13:49.47 | cb400f | reinstalling stuff is a windows thing |
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| 13:53.41 | Peace- | cb400f: well that is not true |
| 13:53.47 | Peace- | for example |
| 13:53.54 | Peace- | print stuff was broken |
| 13:54.16 | Peace- | and only reinstalling phyton stuff (i didn't remember well the package) i got it fixed |
| 13:54.45 | Half-Left | Ooof |
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| 14:08.24 | Remaille | hi all, KDE4.x uses dcop or dbus ? |
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| 14:09.14 | annma | dbus |
| 14:09.21 | annma | hey Remaille :) |
| 14:09.27 | Remaille | hi annma :))) |
| 14:10.29 | Remaille | I just tryning to sort out the project we have : controlling some KDE softwares |
| 14:10.51 | annma | dbus calls are easy to find using qdbusviewer |
| 14:10.54 | annma | oh yes |
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| 14:11.06 | Remaille | (we talked about it last saturday) |
| 14:11.11 | annma | yes :) |
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| 14:12.20 | annma | either you use qdbusviewer which is a graphical view of dbus calls |
| 14:12.37 | annma | or you type qdbus <return> and follow the application you want |
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| 14:14.36 | Remaille | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.45 | Remaille | vertically |
| 14:15.26 | annma | what application are you interested in? |
| 14:15.34 | annma | you need it to run |
| 14:16.36 | Remaille | let's say xchat (the one i ma running) |
| 14:17.04 | Remaille | could i ask xchat to do something special (not coffee) ? |
| 14:17.14 | Remaille | let's say, minimize |
| 14:17.23 | Remaille | or join #test |
| 14:17.35 | annma | I don't have xchat to try |
| 14:17.56 | Remaille | or xeyes |
| 14:17.58 | annma | minimize surely, join also |
| 14:18.23 | annma | they are not KDE apps |
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| 14:20.39 | Remaille | or Knotes for example |
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| 14:22.20 | Remaille | $qdbus org.kde.knotes sends back kinds of folders |
| 14:22.35 | annma | qdbus org.kde.knotes /KNotes |
| 14:22.49 | Remaille | how to interact with them ? if you have a useful link to read (and i think i have a lot to read...) :-) |
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| 14:25.30 | angasule | the bookmark button in the toolbar seems inoperative, clicking on it has no effect |
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| 14:28.10 | annma | hmmm not sure where there would be a tutorial for it |
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| 14:29.16 | annma | what's the id of a knote? |
| 14:29.36 | annma | qdbus org.kde.knotes /KNotes org.kde.KNotes.setText id Hello |
| 14:29.49 | annma | taht would set text to "Hello" to note with id "id" |
| 14:30.57 | annma | qdbus org.kde.knotes /KNotes org.kde.KNotes.hideAllNotes |
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| 14:33.25 | Remaille | annma, id=PID ? |
| 14:33.53 | annma | no, I think id is id for each note |
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| 14:39.29 | annma | I'm asking in #kontact, mayb someone knows |
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| 14:40.26 | Remaille | thanks annma : I already leleanrt a few things :) |
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| 14:43.44 | annma | someone said it might be the name |
| 14:46.16 | angasule | I don't suppose there is a way to remove the twirly thing from the far right of the panel? I'd like to have something else there (you know, a useful corner according to Fitt's law...) |
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| 14:55.04 | Remaille | I changed the name to 12 and it doesn't work |
| 14:55.18 | Remaille | I still look, it is a nice example I think |
| 14:55.37 | Remaille | just to give basis |
| 14:58.29 | annma | yes it works with hideAllNotes |
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| 14:58.40 | annma | but the id and noteId I did not figure out |
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| 15:00.32 | Remaille | hum nam is not unique |
| 15:00.35 | Remaille | name |
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| 15:00.46 | Remaille | qdbus org.kde.knotes /KNotes org.kde.KNotes.newNote nouveau toto :) |
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| 15:06.28 | wilder | hiall, I've a problem with changing the timezone in 4.2.x; the obvious way does not work, and also changing the appropriate files in .kde does not give any result since they are overwritten shortly after; which program should I kill & restart to be able to change it? |
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| 15:07.29 | wilder | (i could do it right before logging in after boot, I suppose but I don't want to reboot for that...) |
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| 15:08.56 | ranix | kdesux |
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| 15:13.07 | kanon-mat | no, i like my kde3 |
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| 15:16.14 | lukas | Hi everyone:) |
| 15:16.27 | lukas | I've a question |
| 15:16.38 | lukas | how to create activities? |
| 15:16.40 | lukas | :) |
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| 15:22.29 | annma | lukas: click on th etoolbox right top corner |
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| 15:23.55 | lukas | ok |
| 15:24.15 | lukas | but if i have none etoolboxes? |
| 15:24.20 | lukas | kde 4.2.85 |
| 15:26.01 | annma | new user? |
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| 15:26.16 | lukas | since 4.1 |
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| 15:27.01 | annma | try a new user then please |
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| 15:36.07 | JukeBoxHero | check this behaviour, whenever i open up a file from apps like ktorrent, gwenview etc, i always get the open box with files arranged in descending order, no matter how many times i sort in ascending, it goes back to descending the next time i open it |
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| 15:36.56 | JukeBoxHero | ^ on KDe 4.2.2 |
| 15:38.09 | JukeBoxHero | ok 4.2.3 fixes it, got to know. |
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| 15:38.18 | Half-Left | JukeBoxHero: You mean just open a image by clicking?, nothing else? |
| 15:38.28 | annma | was in KFileDialog I think |
| 15:39.00 | JukeBoxHero | Half-Left: i meant in-app, when you open |
| 15:39.11 | JukeBoxHero | open file and the box comes up |
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| 15:39.33 | Half-Left | Right |
| 15:40.05 | Half-Left | Alphabetical order |
| 15:40.30 | Half-Left | Same order as in Dolphin |
| 15:40.50 | lukas | does anyne uses 2 monitors? |
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| 15:41.49 | lukas | when I try to switch activities with both monitors (1280x1024 and 1280x800) present plasma hangs for unlimited time |
| 15:42.32 | lukas | I'd like to report a bug, but since its not a crash, but "just" a hang |
| 15:42.55 | lukas | how to write exact bug report? |
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| 15:43.20 | annma | run plasma through gdb |
| 15:43.24 | annma | and get a backtrace |
| 15:44.30 | lukas | could you be mre specific? |
| 15:44.41 | lukas | i terminal run gdb plasma? |
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| 15:50.41 | annma | yes |
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| 15:56.02 | p-f | applications that use phonon (amarok, dragon, etc) give me the error message "Notification from phonon: The audio playback device HDA Intel (SigmaTel STAC9200) does not work. Falling back to default". Sound works fine in non-phonon applications such as mplayer. Any ideas? |
| 15:56.39 | annma | sp dragon for ex does not work at all? |
| 15:56.42 | annma | so |
| 15:57.23 | p-f | it works, but no sound |
| 15:58.15 | p-f | scratch that, it doesn't play video at all |
| 15:58.16 | annma | did you look in SystemSettings? |
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| 15:58.44 | p-f | I'm looking through it right now |
| 15:58.57 | p-f | HDA Intel, HDA Intel S/PDIF, default...hrm |
| 15:59.02 | annma | tehre's a test button |
| 15:59.11 | annma | ensure with kmix that the sound is loud enough |
| 15:59.31 | p-f | sure enough, the second one works fine |
| 15:59.55 | annma | so dragon shoudl work |
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| 16:00.36 | p-f | the weird thing is that, if I select HDA Intel S/PDIF (the second entry) and push 'test', I get an error related to the first entry (HDA Intel), saying it's falling back to the default |
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| 16:02.08 | p-f | I tried making 'default' the preferred device, but still no sound |
| 16:02.13 | p-f | no more error messages though |
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| 16:07.35 | jad4 | guys |
| 16:07.44 | jad4 | in dot.kde.org |
| 16:07.46 | p-f | just tried the phonon-xine backend, still no sound |
| 16:07.49 | p-f | stuff plays now though |
| 16:07.50 | jad4 | when asking for a new password |
| 16:08.04 | jad4 | it always say I get the captcha wrong |
| 16:08.06 | jad4 | always |
| 16:08.14 | jad4 | something must be wrong there |
| 16:08.55 | Half-Left | Make sure you have the codecs |
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| 16:09.34 | p-f | Half-Left: ah good catch... video works fine |
| 16:09.46 | p-f | must be missing the mp3 codecs for xine then |
| 16:09.48 | Half-Left | For example, Fedora doesn't have mp3 support since it's purely freesoftware |
| 16:10.09 | Half-Left | They have a rpm fusion |
| 16:10.30 | pinotree | (actually, it is more to avoid being potentially sued because of software patents) |
| 16:11.07 | Half-Left | Well mp3 is not freesoftware so Fedora for example doesn't ship it |
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| 16:11.49 | Half-Left | But yer, you'll have to pay for it as a default option |
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| 16:14.45 | Half-Left | I remember SUSE saying they wouldn't pay the licence for it, something like $60,000 |
| 16:15.41 | angasule | 'mp3' is not software, it's a format |
| 16:16.30 | Half-Left | Well not way :p |
| 16:16.33 | Half-Left | no* |
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| 16:27.13 | jad4 | geeez bugs.kde.org is super slow |
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| 16:29.52 | scrash09 | how do i prevent the kde desktop from moving my icons up/down the screen, and displaying a scrollbar? i do NOT want scrolling on the desktop, but can't get it to 'stick' across reboots :-( |
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| 16:34.30 | Half-Left | scrash09: Is that in Folder View mode? |
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| 16:35.47 | Muzer | What's the name of that info box that pops up in the bottom-right corner (with the "i" icon in the system tray), and how would I use it from a shell script (if that's possible)? |
| 16:36.18 | scrash09 | Half-Left: yes it is |
| 16:36.38 | Half-Left | scrash09: How do you get it to scroll? :p |
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| 16:37.14 | scrash09 | Half-Left: reboot the machine. it rearranges my desktop icons, and a scrollbar appears on the rhs |
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| 16:37.30 | scrash09 | Half-Left it's auto-magical |
| 16:38.14 | Half-Left | Why don't you use the options like 'Lock icons in place'? |
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| 16:40.31 | Half-Left | or icons>Lock in place |
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| 16:43.13 | jad4 | anyone using KDE 4.3 beta 1? |
| 16:43.30 | jad4 | I can't use Ctrl+W on firefox anymore since the update |
| 16:43.39 | jad4 | can anyone confirm this? |
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| 16:45.46 | PeterFA | How do I get the running version of a 4.x session? |
| 16:46.29 | pumphaus | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.40 | pumphaus | or any other kde app --version |
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| 16:47.53 | Muzer | anyone know? |
| 16:47.58 | Muzer | What's the name of that info box that pops up in the bottom-right corner (with the "i" icon in the system tray), and how would I use it from a shell script (if that's possible)? |
| 16:48.04 | PeterFA | Yay! Debian Squeeze now has 4.2! |
| 16:48.08 | PeterFA | pees freely in his pants. |
| 16:48.09 | Muzer | If I knew the name, I could probably google it :p |
| 16:48.29 | pinotree | Muzer: you should use kdialog --passivepopup |
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| 16:48.50 | PeterFA | Muzer: probably your email thing, but I don't know. |
| 16:48.56 | scrash09 | Half-Left: becuase i don't *want* to lock my icons in place. i want to be able to move them. i just don't want kde to arbitrarily rearrange them. |
| 16:49.05 | Muzer | pinotree: Thanks a lot :) |
| 16:49.20 | scrash09 | and the question is about the scrollbar ... |
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| 16:52.56 | Half-Left | scrash09: I've never seen the scrollbar on the desktop, though I must confess I've hardly used Folder View mode |
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| 16:57.23 | martymartino | hi guys, I have a question about using kompare. is this teh right place to ask a question? |
| 16:57.32 | PeterFA | Excuse me while I quit Konversation so that I may safely install the new version of KDE4!!! |
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| 16:59.57 | pinotree | martymartino: sure |
| 17:01.42 | martymartino | thanks! here goes then: I'm trying to use kompare (3.5.4 on kde 4.2.3) to see the difference between 2 mysql schema text files, but I'm getting a "could not parse diff output" error, is there a way to get this to work? |
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| 17:02.08 | martymartino | I should add that kompare is working great for normal text files like .php files. |
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| 17:06.05 | scrash09 | Hrm. So _anyone_ on how-to-prevent-the-desktop-scrollbar? |
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| 17:24.19 | EvilGuru | Is there no way to change the theme of KDE4 applications without using kcontrol (which has 50MiB of deps)? |
| 17:25.19 | Half-Left | EvilGuru: qtconfig is the other option |
| 17:25.31 | Half-Left | 50mb? |
| 17:25.33 | EvilGuru | Half-Left: I have the theme set using Qtconfig |
| 17:25.47 | EvilGuru | all pure Qt applications take on the theme I have specified |
| 17:26.01 | EvilGuru | except KDE ones, which use a blocky default theme (9x like) |
| 17:26.10 | Half-Left | Why do you have a 5gb HDD or something? |
| 17:26.45 | EvilGuru | http://rafb.net/p/FsWlcY36.html |
| 17:27.34 | EvilGuru | My bandwidth is not unlimited, and there has to be a sane way of doing it |
| 17:27.50 | EvilGuru | E.g., for gtk stuff in KDE I'd just use .gtkrc-2.0 |
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| 17:28.19 | EvilGuru | But KDE apps do not seem to pick up the Qt theme |
| 17:28.27 | Half-Left | Use the gtk= option for Qt4.5 then |
| 17:28.31 | Half-Left | + |
| 17:28.45 | EvilGuru | Half-Left: I do have that option specified :) |
| 17:28.56 | Half-Left | It's in the qtconfig |
| 17:28.58 | EvilGuru | Qt apps use my GTK theme, but KDE ones do not |
| 17:29.03 | EvilGuru | Yes, I have specified it there |
| 17:29.13 | Half-Left | Well they should |
| 17:29.21 | EvilGuru | Quassel, Qt Creator + my own Qt apps all follow it |
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| 17:29.39 | Half-Left | it maybe that gtk+ bug then |
| 17:29.45 | kdepepo | EvilGuru, install system settings, change the style, remove system settings, then make a diff of config files to see what it changed :) |
| 17:30.32 | EvilGuru | passing -style gtk+ gets me the style |
| 17:31.13 | EvilGuru | although all of the fonts are a point or so smaller |
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| 17:32.14 | Half-Left | EvilGuru: Yer because they're Qt apps :p |
| 17:32.23 | EvilGuru | Half-Left: Nope |
| 17:32.38 | Half-Left | Quassle and Qt creator are |
| 17:32.40 | EvilGuru | Quassel is pixel perfect with my other GTK+ applications, bar slightly different font rendering |
| 17:33.04 | EvilGuru | So KDE applications are not getting the font sizes from the Qt theme, or they would be the same |
| 17:33.29 | Half-Left | They're not KDE apps, Qt apps don't have to follow the KDE HIG so they will look different |
| 17:33.56 | Half-Left | Just like GTK apps in gnome in fact |
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| 17:46.51 | jad4 | guys in KDE 4.3 beta 1 ctrl+w doesn't work anymore for me |
| 17:46.59 | jad4 | konqueror, firefox |
| 17:47.00 | jad4 | nothing |
| 17:47.02 | jad4 | :S |
| 17:47.05 | jad4 | any ideas ? |
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| 17:52.57 | kdepepo | jad4, maybe it is assigned a global shortcut |
| 17:54.36 | deusr | pinotree, hi! |
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| 17:55.01 | pinotree | hi |
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| 17:55.02 | kdepepo | jad4, it is fixed in trunk. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193003 |
| 17:55.31 | deusr | pinotree, I would like to make a suggestion for future versions of okular |
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| 17:55.54 | deusr | pinotree, a moment, I will show you what it is! |
| 17:55.58 | kdepepo | deusr, one which isn't already on bugs.kde.org? :) |
| 17:56.34 | jad4 | kdepepo: ah ok, I just fixed it |
| 17:57.00 | deusr | kdepepo, yes |
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| 17:57.57 | deusr | kdepepo, sorry, no!! |
| 17:58.34 | pinotree | tell me |
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| 17:59.23 | deusr | pinotree, http://tales.sytes.net/aaa.jpg |
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| 17:59.28 | deusr | pinotree, the route in red + black is the extent to which the program itself inserts, I picked up the tool and demarcate the area and he returns the values. |
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| 18:00.37 | pinotree | a ruler tool, basically? it's been reported already, yes |
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| 18:01.16 | deusr | pinotree, that. not found the bugs |
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| 18:01.42 | pinotree | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155737 |
| 18:02.13 | deusr | I see |
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| 18:03.15 | kdepepo | maybe you shouldn't compare Okular with Acrobat, but with Reader ;) |
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| 18:06.44 | deusr | kdepepo, in fact I am not comparing. It is the following ... my editor had asked me that an alternative to Acrobat. She is running on Vista okular, hehe |
| 18:07.16 | pinotree | okular is not a replacement for acrobat, as acrobar is full pdf editing |
| 18:07.18 | pinotree | *acrobat |
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| 18:09.26 | deusr | even so okular is very good. very light and practical. |
| 18:09.42 | kdepepo | (like many KDE apps :) |
| 18:09.51 | pinotree | thanks |
| 18:10.48 | kdepepo | maybe she should uninstall Vista and get something real ;) |
| 18:11.09 | deusr | pinotree, you will implement it? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155737 |
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| 18:12.56 | deusr | kdepepo, indeed it is :p Make that, like it has everything KDE 4.2.3 is stable and in my gentoo. |
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| 18:13.35 | automat | are there any kate experts here? |
| 18:14.14 | kdepepo | what is your real question? |
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| 18:15.30 | automat | i'm wondering if kate keeps temporary files anywhere that might contain portions of open documents. my office mate tried saving a file as i was running a large backup. at some point, we filled the disk. when you tell kate to save a file with a full disk, it replaces the file with an empty file. |
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| 18:16.57 | automat | i looked in ~/.kate and ~/.kde/* and found nothing. also checked in /tmp and /var/tmp, but didn't see anything that might help. i'm guessing there's no autosave feature that might bail us out of this one. |
| 18:17.15 | kdepepo | automat, you can configure kate to create backups on save. But it sounds it is too late. |
| 18:17.15 | automat | shakes his fist at full disks |
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| 18:17.42 | automat | kdepepo: it replaced the filename~ backup with an empty file on save as well. i think he tried to save it twice |
| 18:18.33 | kdepepo | that's bad. Is there no error message? |
| 18:19.03 | automat | no. the document became empty immediately upon clicking the save button in the toolbar. |
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| 18:19.42 | kdepepo | that would be a bug... kate does not reload on save. |
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| 18:21.07 | automat | kdepepo: i wonder why it disappeared. i wonder if my officemate closed it after saving. i'm going to have to investigate this a bit more. at any rate, it seems like kate should have issued a warning and done nothing, rather than wiping the file. |
| 18:21.49 | kdepepo | I wonder how one can fill a XX (or XXX?) Gigabyte disk with a text document ... |
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| 18:22.42 | kdepepo | anyway, file a bug report at bugs.kde.org |
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| 18:22.46 | automat | kdepepo: one can fill a XXX GB disk with backups of data files. when this happens, small text files become empty files when you save them in kate. |
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| 18:23.51 | automat | i will. i'm going to make a small partition and fill it to make sure i can recreate the behavior first. make sure my office mate wasn't doing something stupid. it's almost certainly my fault for trying to backup 50G of data without looking how much space was left. |
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| 18:26.08 | kdepepo | I have to run, money calls. |
| 18:26.30 | automat | well, thanks for listening. ;) |
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| 18:28.43 | Ab3L | ciao |
| 18:28.48 | Ab3L | hi |
| 18:32.37 | automat | for anyone interested in this kate fiasco, see bug 76942: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76942 |
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| 18:32.56 | automat | apparently the algorithm for saving a file in kate is 1) erase the existing file, 2) rewrite it |
| 18:33.11 | automat | not the best algorithm for handling a full disk situation |
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| 18:37.59 | tuxick | automat: indeed, not at all |
| 18:38.03 | tuxick | and fix is trivial |
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| 18:40.29 | hacosta_ | where can i find documentation about a particular dbus call? |
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| 18:41.03 | automat | tuxick: i agree. i'm adding my 2cents to the bug report. the existing algorithm is horribly careless. it's even worse with backups enabled. before entering the saving algorithm above, kate first writes the backup file... without checking to see if there is enough space. the result? an empty backup file. |
| 18:41.33 | automat | so with a full disk, kate not only clobbers your working file, but also your backup! |
| 18:41.37 | tuxick | duh? not even exception handling? |
| 18:41.48 | tuxick | i guess the author decided to skip |
| 18:41.55 | tuxick | "C++ in 24 hours" |
| 18:41.58 | automat | lol |
| 18:42.20 | tuxick | i suppose it'll be fixed soon though |
| 18:42.36 | automat | hopefully. |
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| 18:59.21 | thiago_home | hacosta_: nowhere |
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| 18:59.27 | thiago_home | hacosta_: you can read the source code that handles the call |
| 18:59.35 | thiago_home | but that's it |
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| 18:59.40 | silver_hook | What could be wrong that KDE 4.2.3 (on Gentoo and xf86-video-ati drivers) would make my X eat up 30-70% of CPU? |
| 18:59.41 | thiago_home | D-Bus interfaces aren't documented anywhere |
| 18:59.53 | thiago_home | silver_hook: it could be the ATI drivers |
| 19:00.02 | thiago_home | try disabling desktop effcts |
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| 19:01.21 | silver_hook | thiago_home: Disabling desktop effects doesn't help at all (at least with Alt+Shift+F12) |
| 19:01.50 | silver_hook | What *did* help was change from EXA to XAA ...but that's really odd, since it used to work just fine before :\ |
| 19:02.08 | silver_hook | The stupid thing is that I don't remember what I did in the meantime to break it :P |
| 19:02.55 | silver_hook | And even if I let it as EXA it works just fine under Awesome (a tiling WM). |
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| 19:06.03 | silver_hook | The other question I have is, is it a bug in KDE 4.* that when installing 3rd party (e.g. from kde-look.org) mouse themes some cursors are interchanged. E.g. the topleft-bottomright resize arrow shows as topright-bottomleft etc. |
| 19:07.35 | hacosta_ | thiago_home: thanks, reading the code right now (: |
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| 19:12.24 | salohcin | Hello Just checking if I had misunderstood something |
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| 19:12.59 | salohcin | In the KDE 4.2.85 I should be able to browse a Folder view withing the folder view? |
| 19:13.55 | salohcin | -g |
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| 19:14.28 | mamr | just stay over an item for a moment |
| 19:14.37 | mamr | then a pop-up will show its content |
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| 19:16.53 | salohcin | ah |
| 19:16.57 | salohcin | doesn't for me |
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| 19:18.48 | elbeardmorez | hi. i'm modifying a KDM theme. is there a tag to centre text? so that regardless of size, the centre of the string is centred.. ..as opposed to centring a box / label that is roughly the right size, and having the text left aligned? thanks |
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| 19:28.03 | patkoscsaba | hi all |
| 19:28.11 | salohcin | hi |
| 19:28.22 | patkoscsaba | can I make a KDE3 application to respect my KDE4 color scheme on KDE4.2.2. ?\ |
| 19:30.21 | salohcin | port it to KDE4 ? |
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| 19:31.00 | patkoscsaba | no ... |
| 19:31.05 | patkoscsaba | I use a lot Quanta+ |
| 19:31.12 | patkoscsaba | which is a KDE3 application |
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| 19:31.19 | patkoscsaba | now, my desktop is KDE4.2.2 |
| 19:31.29 | patkoscsaba | I have a dark color scheme in place |
| 19:31.39 | patkoscsaba | but quanta and other kde3 apps are bright white |
| 19:31.49 | patkoscsaba | I want them to use my KDE4 color scheme |
| 19:31.56 | patkoscsaba | if it's possible |
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| 19:33.07 | arkascha | patkoscsaba: did you try to use a kde3 theme using similar colors ? |
| 19:34.37 | patkoscsaba | arkascha: that's my question ... how do I enable a kde3 theme on kde4? |
| 19:34.58 | patkoscsaba | arkascha: and it's not theme, just color scheme |
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| 19:36.04 | arkascha | patkoscsaba: did you try using the kde3 tools available to setup the color scheme ? |
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| 19:36.57 | patkoscsaba | arkascha: no, I didn't ... I don't even know if I have tham installed. I installed only necessary dependencies when KDE3 apps were installed |
| 19:37.51 | patkoscsaba | arkascha: give some hints here, I don't have the old KDE3 control center in my KDE4 menu |
| 19:38.29 | arkascha | patkoscsaba: have a try installing kcontrol from kde3 and using it. I would imagine that works, since kde3 & kde4 are more or less independant from each other in their setup. |
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| 19:38.54 | silver_hook | Can someone please try to reproduce a bug for me? |
| 19:39.12 | patkoscsaba | arkascha: ok, thanks for the tip |
| 19:39.16 | arkascha | silver_hook: a specific one ? I have several around here... |
| 19:39.22 | arkascha | patkoscsaba: good luck ! |
| 19:39.35 | silver_hook | Can someone go to kde-look.org and download a x11 mouse theme, install it and see if it works as it should. |
| 19:40.18 | silver_hook | arkascha: I'm trying to figure out if it's a KDE or a distro bug. Because I find it really odd that no-one else noticed this on kde-look.org O_o |
| 19:40.43 | silver_hook | Also, does anyone know which component handles now emoticons? |
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| 19:44.06 | arkascha | silver_hook: no problem here, works for me. |
| 19:44.22 | silver_hook | arkascha: Hmm, odd. Which distro, which KDE version? |
| 19:44.42 | arkascha | kde-4.2.? @ opensue-11.1 @ x86-32 |
| 19:45.09 | arkascha | lol: opensue, yes thought of sueing 'em a few times. |
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| 19:46.05 | silver_hook | Hmmm. Odd. On Gentoo I had the issue with any 4.2.x so far â some cursors get mixed. E.g. the resize window double arrows are mixed between themselves |
| 19:48.13 | arkascha | silver_hook: no, cursor works as expected here on my susi. |
| 19:48.35 | silver_hook | arkascha: Hmmm, I'll try to bug someone on #gentoo-kde then :P |
| 19:48.48 | arkascha | :-) |
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| 19:52.40 | the_go4t | Hello |
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| 19:56.15 | the_go4t | I don't know if there is any kde devs here but last time i used kde was in red hat 5.0, in 1999 if i remmber correctly, i just wanted to give a try with kubuntu a couple of weeks ago and i was just amazed by the work done. Kde is great, really beautiful... WOW ! |
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| 20:00.47 | tuxick | now konqueror blew up |
| 20:00.52 | tuxick | can't scroll anymore |
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| 20:05.01 | xzewron | the_go4t: kde indeed rock :) |
| 20:07.49 | the_go4t | There is still some lack of simple features but the inteface is really what linux needs, in my opinion |
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| 20:12.31 | thiago_home | the_go4t: like? |
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| 20:18.39 | the_go4t | thiago_home: like some features like changing host name easily like in kde 3, or a a better network manager because actually the plasma network manager looks great but doesn't work on my 3 computers with wifi |
| 20:18.46 | angasule | thiago_home: well, kteatimer won't make tea for me, I installed it, ran it and after 3 minutes it said the tea was ready, but I couldn't see it anywhere! |
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| 20:22.00 | BillyBop | Hi, I'm on gentoo and I cannot have the kde interface full traduced in french, only some parts of the interface is traduced (for exemple the applications in the menu but not the "favorites" , ..., "leave" buttons of the menu. The system setting is full traduced in french, but konqueror is not traduced at all... |
| 20:22.00 | thiago_home | the_go4t: both are system integration tasks |
| 20:22.16 | thiago_home | the_go4t: the NM problem is caused by using NM in the first place |
| 20:22.21 | thiago_home | there are other solutions that work |
| 20:22.48 | BillyBop | kde |
| 20:22.54 | BillyBop | kde 4.2.3* |
| 20:23.16 | BillyBop | noone on the gentoo-kde channel can help |
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| 20:23.47 | the_go4t | thiago_home: i use manual config of /etc/network/interface :) |
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| 20:26.13 | angasule | if manual config is enough, then you really don't need NM |
| 20:26.43 | angasule | I go bar hopping with my laptop, so I prefer something that sort of works most of the time on its own |
| 20:27.23 | thiago_home | uses Mandriva's net_applet |
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| 20:27.48 | the_go4t | for a new linux user manual configuaration of /etc/network/interfaces isn't really great |
| 20:28.42 | angasule | yeah, that too |
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| 20:36.12 | cYmen2 | Could somebody point me to a kde compatible screensaver tutorial? I have the C++ skills I just need to know the interface. |
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| 20:44.07 | javi | hi all |
| 20:44.30 | Shingoshi | Why does my Konversation window have a white frame? It should be a dark greyish brown, from my KDE settings. |
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| 20:45.33 | javi | is there a way to globally configure kdialog settings so all apps uses them? It's really frustrating to change the icon sizes, enable/disable previews, etc over and over again |
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| 20:51.58 | BillyBop | is /usr/lib/kde4/l10n necessary for locales to work? |
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| 20:54.13 | arkascha | Shingoshi: a mixture of kde3 & kde4 ? |
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| 21:03.58 | Shingoshi | Yeah! I just noticed that. It's running using KDE-3.5.10. Unfortunately, I have the compatibility set installed. |
| 21:04.21 | Shingoshi | So do I need to recompile it for KDE-4? |
| 21:05.29 | Shingoshi | I'm using Slackware. And although KDE4 is in current, it's not yet the standard version. Until then, there will always be this confusion. |
| 21:06.12 | Shingoshi | I just downloaded a SlackBuild, hoping that it will compile against QT4. |
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| 21:06.57 | Shingoshi | I'm going to try rebuilding it now. |
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| 21:11.59 | Tanktalus | waits for the next 4.3 snapshot... :-/ |
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| 21:14.51 | person2 | You know: it's funny, but KDE takes up less memory than XFCE at the moment, even when I start XFCE with clean sessions. I'm impressed. |
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| 21:16.36 | tuxick | person2: what have you been smoking? |
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| 21:16.58 | person2 | tuxick: Don't ask me. This is on startup as well. |
| 21:17.18 | person2 | My system uses less RAM when I boot it and start KDE than when I boot it and start XFCE, anyway. |
| 21:18.10 | tuxick | i have X alone using 200M already |
| 21:18.20 | tuxick | konqueror another 160 |
| 21:19.56 | person2 | *shrugs* |
| 21:20.17 | person2 | I just know that when I type free in KDE, I get about 330M but in Xfce, I get about 380M |
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| 21:21.19 | thiago_home | which column are you looking at? |
| 21:21.26 | person2 | haha |
| 21:21.32 | person2 | used |
| 21:21.41 | thiago_home | I meant tuxick, sorry |
| 21:22.29 | tuxick | thiago_home: %MEM in top :) |
| 21:23.00 | thiago_home | that's a percentage |
| 21:23.09 | thiago_home | so you can't see 200 megabytes % |
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| 21:23.58 | tuxick | i know how much memory i have |
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| 21:24.37 | tuxick | Mem: 1928668k total |
| 21:24.41 | tuxick | and 10% of that goes to X |
| 21:24.48 | tuxick | 8.2 to konq |
| 21:25.31 | thiago_home | did you check how much of that memory is shared? |
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| 21:25.58 | tuxick | it' still used |
| 21:26.13 | tuxick | safe to assume a lot is shared |
| 21:26.15 | thiago_home | the point is that it doesn't sum 100% |
| 21:26.19 | person2 | KDE also seems to take less time to start up than XFCE. |
| 21:26.23 | person2 | KDE3, this is. |
| 21:26.28 | thiago_home | you can have 4 processes occupying each 30% of RAM |
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| 21:27.13 | Tanktalus | I got only 2.4% taken by X, making it #4 - behind VirtualBox (3.7), firefox (2.6), and amarok (2.5) according to htop... :-P |
| 21:27.22 | person2 | Perhaps my plugins are taking up a significant amount of memory. I mean: why does xfce4-dict-plugin take 10mb? |
| 21:27.40 | Tanktalus | Of course, it's always difficult to tell exactly how much RAM something is using on unix... conky comes up with the same order, but different numbers ;-) |
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| 21:28.02 | Tanktalus | VB 3.81, FF 2.69, amarok 2.56, and X 2.49... :-P |
| 21:28.11 | person2 | I heard of something called exmap for telling the RAM that something is using. |
| 21:28.14 | tuxick | it's all a bit vague i know |
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| 21:28.45 | person2 | Yeah, why does Firefox use so much RAM anyway? |
| 21:28.53 | tuxick | it uses gtk! |
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| 21:28.55 | person2 | I've had it using about 17% before. |
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| 21:29.20 | person2 | I thought it used some weird toolkit and only pretended GTK, but perhaps Firefox 3 is different? |
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| 21:29.44 | tuxick | dunno |
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| 21:32.27 | person2 | Ah. It could be because I've got the whole lot installed - the xfce-desktop task. |
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| 21:35.35 | PeterFA | Why is kded4 taking up so much processing power with KDE4.2? |
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| 21:36.14 | thiago_home | which process? |
| 21:36.21 | PeterFA | It's consistently above 80% on my 2.0 Gigahertz Pentium 4. |
| 21:36.27 | PeterFA | kded4. |
| 21:36.40 | thiago_home | that's a bug |
| 21:37.00 | PeterFA | thiago, oh. So, what are the details? |
| 21:37.22 | thiago_home | I don't know. |
| 21:37.33 | thiago_home | I just know that kded4 doesn't do anything that requires it to use 80% CPU |
| 21:37.37 | thiago_home | so it has to be a bug. |
| 21:37.47 | thiago_home | I've seen it before, but I don't know what fixed it. |
| 21:38.11 | PeterFA | Oh. |
| 21:39.05 | PeterFA | thiago_home, hmm, I suppose Google is my friend. |
| 21:39.14 | PeterFA | thiago_home, got any good hints to help me? |
| 21:41.16 | thiago_home | "kded4 100%" I guess |
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| 21:46.52 | knee | Hi |
| 21:47.21 | knee | I have a question (KDE4/Konsole) and hope someone can help me a bit... |
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| 21:48.18 | PhilRod | knee: only if you ask your question... |
| 21:48.44 | knee | In Konsole the cursor is not in sync with the text.. It seems it is related to some font settings... But I never had this problem before. Someone had the same problem? |
| 21:49.34 | knee | And maybe even more important, what can I do about it (and avoid it in the future) |
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| 21:54.57 | PhilRod | what do you mean "Not in sync with the text"? do you have a screenshot? |
| 21:57.06 | knee | I don't have a screenshot now, it happens on a different system which stands next to me, but has no internet connection. |
| 21:58.15 | knee | But what I mean: When I'm typing, the cursor moves to fast to the right.. So when I type iiii < the cursor is here, instead of right behind the last i) |
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| 22:00.39 | PhilRod | some things I'd check: does the effect change when you change the window size? do you have any colours in your prompt? |
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| 22:01.48 | desja004 | hi i am running kde 3.5 and for some strange reason when i click on the kmenu icon the menu slowly opens from the upper left corner in a very slow animation ... how can i turn this off ... i've never seen it before |
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| 22:03.40 | knee | Changing windows size doesn't effect it. I have no colours in the prompt... |
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| 22:06.45 | PeterFA | thiago_home, does modifying .kderc and setting the dirwatch directive to 60000 ring a bell when approaching the kded4 cpu hog bug? |
| 22:07.01 | thiago_home | no |
| 22:07.08 | thiago_home | I've never heard of .kderc |
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| 22:08.50 | desja004 | does anyone know what i mean with the menus? they open very slowly in an animated kind of fashion |
| 22:09.54 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 22:19.50 | PeterFA | thiago_home, guess what? It worked. |
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| 22:20.15 | PeterFA | thiago_home, so remember that you have to edit .kderc and change the dirwatching thing to not-crazy. |
| 22:20.59 | magyar | hi, what is the name of the application in KDE4.2 for process monitoring? |
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| 22:22.28 | cb400f | magyar: ksysguard |
| 22:22.33 | cb400f | ctrl+esc |
| 22:22.46 | magyar | cb400f: thank you |
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| 22:23.50 | magyar | also, is kpackage broken in KDE4.2, what does one use to manage packages in KDE4.2? |
| 22:24.42 | thiago_home | the distribution's tool |
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| 22:27.08 | magyar | thiago_home: i use debian |
| 22:27.17 | thiago_home | then use Debian's package management tool |
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| 22:32.05 | desja004 | this slow animation also occurs when i right click and that menu opens |
| 22:32.10 | desja004 | again this is kde 3.5 |
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| 22:33.13 | arkascha | desja004: you don't have "animated menues" enabled in your desktop settings, have you ? |
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| 22:33.31 | desja004 | arkascha: where is that? |
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| 22:34.30 | estan | hey, is there such a thing as "show desktop" in kde4 that will actually minimize all windows, and not just show the dashboard overlayed? |
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| 22:34.41 | arkascha | desja004: havn't got kde-3.5 around so I have to guess: somewhere in kcontrol, something about behaviour or look&feel ? isn't there a 'search' option in kcontrol @ kde-3.5 ? |
| 22:35.29 | desja004 | yeah but i don't see it anywhere |
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| 22:37.36 | thiago_home | desja004: you have to add the "Desktop Access" or "Minimise Windows" plasmoid |
| 22:37.42 | thiago_home | just add it in Add Widgets |
| 22:38.15 | arkascha | thiago_home: you are addressing estan, I guess. |
| 22:38.44 | thiago_home | yes, sorry |
| 22:38.48 | thiago_home | estan: ^^^^ |
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| 22:41.27 | estan | thiago_home: ah great thanks. |
| 22:41.43 | estan | would be cool if i didn't have to have the plasmoid there though, i just want the hotkey. |
| 22:41.49 | estan | but it's ok. |
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| 22:42.13 | thiago_home | you can add the plasmoid to the desktop |
| 22:43.05 | kucrut | hey guys. anyone wanna test a site for me (using ONLY konqi cause it seems to hang)? |
| 22:43.17 | estan | thiago_home: yea, i meant, i don't need the plasmoid at all ;) |
| 22:43.35 | PeterFA | Well, now that I fixed the silly polling issue, my system is humming smoothly. |
| 22:43.36 | PeterFA | Yay! |
| 22:43.55 | kucrut | it's http://play.kucrut.org/templates/wartaone |
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| 22:45.11 | desja004 | i still can't seem to find anything that resembles that animation |
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| 22:47.04 | arkascha | desja004: kcontrol > appearance&Themes > Style > Effects > Enable Gui Effects > Menu Effect |
| 22:47.18 | arkascha | desja004: *well* hidden |
| 22:47.29 | arkascha | desja004: and probably *not* activated :-) |
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| 22:48.13 | desja004 | arkascha: thanks ... why what a pita |
| 22:48.19 | desja004 | i mean wow what a pita |
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| 22:48.54 | arkascha | desja004: a pita ? sure, I'll have lots of salad on it and hot, please. You deliver ? |
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| 22:51.14 | desja004 | arkascha: thanks again |
| 22:51.22 | arkascha | desja004: you are welcome |
| 22:51.42 | desja004 | i've been searching for an hour :) |
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| 23:07.22 | PeterFA | How lovely is this? KDE4.2.2 is faster than 4.1 |
| 23:07.38 | MrSprinkles | sweet |
| 23:07.46 | PeterFA | In 10 years, KDE will run almost instantly on 286s. |
| 23:08.01 | pinotree | actually, the opposite would be either weird or a bug |
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| 23:39.58 | kjslag | hi, does any know why kmail (KDE4) reloads an email every time I click on a different email, and then go back to the original? |
| 23:42.08 | szal | it always did that, don't know any different, and I don't know any mail client that does that differently (perhaps apart from M$ Outlook Express, which I never used much) |
| 23:43.54 | kjslag | thunderbird doesn't do that |
| 23:45.45 | kjslag | i would expect emails to be downloaded to the hard-drive so that you can search for key-words in their contents |
| 23:46.06 | szal | that's what KMail does, at least w/ POP3 accounts |
| 23:46.41 | szal | no idea about IMAP, but then again, it's supposed not to download IMAP messages unless you tell it to |
| 23:47.03 | kjslag | i'm using IMAP |
| 23:47.25 | kjslag | i thought the only difference was that using IMAP doesn't remove the email from the server |
| 23:47.32 | kjslag | while POP3 does |
| 23:47.48 | szal | nah, IMAP is sort-of like a remote mail folder |
| 23:50.29 | szal | if you 'only' want your messages not to be deleted from the server you can, in most cases, set up a POP3 account so that messages are not deleted from the server after download |
| 23:50.55 | szal | s/so/such/ |
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| 23:51.47 | kjslag | awesome, i was just reading wiki |
| 23:51.52 | kjslag | how do you do that in kmail? |
| 23:52.11 | szal | it's somewhere in the POP3 properties |
| 23:52.13 | kjslag | so that they aren't deleted from the server |
| 23:53.01 | kjslag | or, or disconnected IMAP might fix it also? |
| 23:53.11 | szal | ? |
| 23:53.39 | kjslag | it's another option in addition to IMAP and POP3 that kmail is showing me |
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| 23:56.46 | szal | I have that on the Advanced tab in the properties of the respective POP3 account -> Leave delivered messages on the server [wording may vary; other language here] |
| 23:57.27 | kjslag | awesome, i'll keep that in mind |
| 23:57.40 | kjslag | this disconnected IMAP seems to do what I want, so I'll use that |
| 23:57.43 | kjslag | thanks very much |
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