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| 00:02.46 | cghislai | kde_pepo: i have the icons installed |
| 00:03.24 | xxtjaxx | cghislai, great so what you wanna do with em? |
| 00:04.50 | cghislai | xxtjaxx: list the theme in the settings dialog |
| 00:05.09 | xxtjaxx | aha |
| 00:05.21 | cghislai | how does kde look for themes? |
| 00:05.35 | cghislai | my package kdeartwork seems to provide anything needed |
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| 00:39.17 | zirikili | hey guys , what are the shortcuts keys for change work areas on kde4.2 ? |
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| 00:42.06 | cghislai | zirikili: virtual desktop? kwin's shortcuts |
| 00:42.42 | zirikili | cghislai: yes. virtual desktops |
| 00:43.13 | cghislai | go to systsettings->keyb&mouse-<global shortcuts and look for kwins |
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| 00:43.36 | cghislai | "switch next desktop" "swith previous desktop" |
| 00:43.41 | zirikili | cghislai: thank you |
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| 00:47.06 | zirikili | cghislai: very good! thanks again :) |
| 00:50.03 | lilltiger | Is there any way I can make Okteta show the segment offsets as 32bit insted of 16bit? |
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| 01:11.29 | tosta | hi people, I am a distribution packager and need to compile KDE 4.2.85 with this patch: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/kdelibs/F-11/kdelibs-4.1.96-parallel_devel.patch?revision=1.2 |
| 01:12.00 | tosta | and getting this error: http://rafb.net/p/vN0cTs89.html |
| 01:12.52 | tosta | I cannot see what is wrong... can you help me |
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| 01:14.07 | mini | hello |
| 01:14.37 | cghislai | tosta: might help to have english errors, try to export LC_ALL=C before compiling |
| 01:15.02 | mini | I need to install Qt4 to compile KDE4 correct? |
| 01:15.35 | tosta | Hum... sorry. In english it says: /bin/sh: ../bin/makekdewidgets4.shell: No such file or directory |
| 01:15.52 | pinotree | mini: yes, Qt4 is a dependency of KDE4 |
| 01:16.35 | mini | where do I get it? is it dificult to install it? |
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| 01:17.52 | k4_k4 | for compiling you should get qt-copy from SVN |
| 01:18.00 | k4_k4 | http://websvn.kde.org |
| 01:18.24 | k4_k4 | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/qt-copy/ |
| 01:18.38 | k4_k4 | but dont download from http, so a svn checkout |
| 01:19.05 | k4_k4 | if you dont compile kde4 then you can live with your distribution packages |
| 01:19.13 | cghislai | Tosta: building on linux, right? |
| 01:19.19 | tosta | cghislai: With errors in english: http://rafb.net/p/wfMYNB42.html |
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| 01:19.53 | tosta | cghislai: yes, building on linux |
| 01:20.21 | cghislai | is there a ../bin/makekdewidgets.shell ? |
| 01:20.33 | tosta | cghislai: no |
| 01:21.13 | tosta | cghislai: if I do 'make makekdewidgets4' it creates the .shell file |
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| 01:23.36 | mini | which version of Qt4 do I need Qt SDK or Qt Framerwork |
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| 01:27.16 | cghislai | tosta: so its a dependency problem... + MAIN_DEPENDENCY kde.widgets DEPENDS makekdewidgets4) |
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| 01:28.20 | funyun | noob here. can someone help me compile kmenc15? when i try, i get this http://pastie.org/488606 |
| 01:28.25 | tosta | cghislai: but a make in kdelibs must make makekdewidgets4, right? |
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| 01:28.50 | cghislai | yes, but the thing is in which order... |
| 01:29.13 | cghislai | i guess once you've built makekdewidgets4, you can resume compilation |
| 01:29.35 | tosta | I had disabled -j2 to make, but no success |
| 01:29.56 | mini | k4_k4 How do I get svn copy |
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| 01:30.07 | Guest10882 | hi |
| 01:30.16 | tosta | cghislai: sure, but I am trying to make a rpm package, and script aborts if it fails |
| 01:30.59 | funyun | noob here. can someone help me compile kmenc15? when i try, i get this http://pastie.org/488606 |
| 01:31.49 | cghislai | tosta: im not used to cmake, but you could try adding explicitly the kdewidgets4 dependency for the compilation of kde3supportwidgets.cpp |
| 01:32.44 | cghislai | like whats done in your patch for kde.widgets |
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| 01:33.11 | Guest10882 | I can't hear any systemsounds, i have arts installed and ALSA as in-kernel option. Playing music with amarok sounds good. Im using kde3@2.8.28-r5 kernel. can someone help me? |
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| 01:37.00 | tosta | cghislai: seens something is missing in fedora patch... do you know any way to use kde 3.5.x and 4.x devel files in parallel? |
| 01:37.33 | cghislai | no, i've completely forgotten about 3.5 now.... sorry |
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| 01:39.38 | Guest10882 | ... kernel 2.6.28-r5, sry |
| 01:40.12 | cghislai | tosta: but several distros use it i think, so you might look elsewhere how they manage to do so |
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| 01:42.03 | tosta | cghislai: ok, I found _KDE4_MAKEKDEWIDGETS_DEP in cmake module FindKDE4Internal... I think must have one DEP directive for kde3supportwidgets... |
| 01:42.33 | cghislai | yeah, that should do the trick |
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| 01:50.53 | Guest10882 | programs like xchat, are they depend to artsd playing sounds or can they use ALSA without? |
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| 02:16.12 | ScottG | All my small icons seem to have disappeared. When I go to the menu and browse through different programs, they don't have the small icons next to them. Also when a program is starting, there is just a little brown/gray square next to the cursor instead of an icon for the application that is starting. |
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| 02:21.55 | ScottG | Small icons seem to be missing from various other places too |
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| 02:48.20 | gewt | in kde4, how do you mvoe stuff aroudn on the panel? |
| 02:49.00 | ScottG | no one is here :/ |
| 02:49.37 | drantin | gewt: click the cashew on the right hand side of the panel |
| 02:49.58 | drantin | gewt: if it isn't showing, right click on an empty spot and unlock widgets |
| 02:50.20 | ScottG | drantin: dont know the answer to my question? |
| 02:50.27 | drantin | ScottG: sorry |
| 02:50.45 | ScottG | Man, ive never seen a channel this large be so dead |
| 02:50.58 | gewt | that doesn't allow me to move the app |
| 02:51.23 | drantin | gewt: are you trying to arrange applications in the Task Manager widget then? |
| 02:51.27 | MrGrim | ScottG: there are a select few here who rule with an iron fist. If you are not 100% strictly on topic you get booted, so nobody speaks |
| 02:51.36 | gewt | drantin, no, in the window chosoer |
| 02:51.56 | ScottG | MrGrim: Seriously? |
| 02:52.18 | drantin | gewt: are you sure it's called "window chooser" ? |
| 02:52.36 | gewt | the thign wher eyou choose an ap. |
| 02:52.40 | drantin | MrGrim: I haven't actually seen anyone get booted except for trolls |
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| 02:53.11 | drantin | gewt: right click on the space between applications and you can change the grouping method from the "Task Manager Settings" |
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| 02:53.23 | drantin | gewt: afaik, it doesn't allow arbitrarily arranging them though |
| 02:53.26 | drantin | ... |
| 02:54.08 | drantin | MrGrim: they will be told to stay on topic or go to a discussion channel if they stray for too long though |
| 02:55.37 | MrGrim | and that everyone who speaks did |
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| 02:56.34 | ScottG | drantin: Thats what kills channels though. If people can just relax and hang around, they aren't going to stick around on the channel and be here when someone has a question |
| 02:56.52 | ScottG | can't |
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| 02:59.27 | karthikp | The greeter screen does not show the user chosen .face.icon. There doesn't seem to be a bug filed about this on bko. Can someone let me know if this works in 4.3beta/svn? |
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| 03:00.18 | karthikp | Steps: System Settings > About Me > Choose an avatar. Log out/restart X. Login screen still doesn't show your icon. |
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| 03:02.08 | mib_1v5ej79s | hi |
| 03:03.08 | pARAd0X85 | how to make the bars of applications bigger ? |
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| 03:03.32 | karthikp | pARAd0X85: What bars? |
| 03:03.40 | pARAd0X85 | scrollbars |
| 03:04.12 | pARAd0X85 | ?? |
| 03:04.55 | karthikp | I think that would depend on the theme you're using. If like the majority of KDE4 users (me included), you use Oxygen, I don't think there's a way to make them wider. |
| 03:04.58 | drantin | find a widget style that lets you change it |
| 03:05.28 | pARAd0X85 | any widget ? |
| 03:06.04 | drantin | "widget style" i.e. oxygen, skulpture, etc (although I don't think either of those have that as an option) |
| 03:06.09 | karthikp | Right, widget style, not theme. System Settings > Appearance |
| 03:06.13 | pARAd0X85 | I should film a demo of multi-touch in Linux, I want to show my KDE4 desktop, but scrollbars are very small for fingers |
| 03:06.51 | karthikp | Scrollbars should expand with screen size. Maybe a bug report/wishlist? |
| 03:07.04 | pARAd0X85 | yes |
| 03:07.06 | drantin | wait, skulpture does have an option |
| 03:07.07 | pARAd0X85 | it is ! |
| 03:07.23 | drantin | it's not installed by default though |
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| 03:07.29 | pARAd0X85 | I didn't found the widget option |
| 03:07.56 | karthikp | It's not part of the default widget styles that ship with KDE4. |
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| 03:08.33 | drantin | pARAd0X85: try http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/?content=59031 |
| 03:08.41 | karthikp | You can find it easily enough. Check your distro's repo or if that doesn't work, you can always get it at kde.... |
| 03:08.54 | karthikp | I was typing this long reply... |
| 03:08.55 | karthikp | :) |
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| 03:09.44 | karthikp | So, can no one confirm that user avatars work in 4.3 beta/svn? |
| 03:10.03 | karthikp | I'll just go ahead and file a bug anyway, then. |
| 03:10.12 | pARAd0X85 | Thank you, and how to report a bug / request feature in KDE ? |
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| 03:10.21 | karthikp | bugs.kde.org |
| 03:10.37 | karthikp | Create an account, then Report New Bug/Wishlist. |
| 03:10.38 | drantin | pARAd0X85: http://drantin.ath.cx:9100/images/skulpt.png is an image of the config screen for skulpture |
| 03:11.09 | hermanChess | how did Kubuntu 9.04 came out for kde 4? |
| 03:11.22 | hermanChess | is it decent? |
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| 03:13.32 | karthikp | hermanChess: While someone gives you a useful answer, my thoughts. Kubuntu is generally not the best distro to go to for a good KDE experience. |
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| 03:14.11 | hermanChess | karthikp, that's what I thought, which one would you recommend? |
| 03:14.31 | pARAd0X85 | I installed skulture, but don't find where is it ! |
| 03:14.39 | karthikp | If you want the ease of Ubuntu, go ahead with gnome. Kubuntu always lags behind Ubuntu. You basically get the worst of both Ubuntu and KDE. (I recommend Arch, but I think the learning curve is a bit steep for newbies) |
| 03:15.30 | drantin | pARAd0X85: in System Settings, click Appearance, then where you see "Widget Style" (you shouldn't have to click anything, it's in the default tab) click the drop down menu |
| 03:15.34 | karthikp | So, if you consider yourself a newbie to setting up a linux system, maybe OpenSuse or Mandriva? (Others are welcome to comment here) |
| 03:15.46 | hermanChess | karthikp, I used archlinux, and I tested KDE 4.2 in there, it did fine, but I was hoping for a distro that enhacned kde and made it more stable |
| 03:15.52 | drantin | if it's not listed in there, you may have to restart KDE to get it listed, I'm not 100% certain... |
| 03:16.11 | castingcrowns | Im trying to compile something and getting erros...looked at the forums and someone recomended loading the project into kdevelop and rerunning "Automake and friends" however, when I do this, i get the following error:" Your using autoconf (GNU autoconf) 2.63....KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53, or 2.54" how can I resolve this? |
| 03:16.25 | drantin | (in the drop down that is, if you can't get to the drop down list, you just haven't found it yet) |
| 03:16.26 | karthikp | I saw the chakra set up screenshots. That might blossom into a really neat KDE distro someday. |
| 03:17.04 | ScottG | All my small icons seem to have disappeared. When I go to the menu and browse through different programs, they don't have the small icons next to them. Also when a program is starting, there is just a little brown/gray square next to the cursor instead of an icon for the application that is starting. |
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| 03:17.40 | karthikp | chakra has to be the most irritating distro name to google for... |
| 03:17.56 | karthikp | hermanChess: http://chakra-project.org/about-screenshots.html |
| 03:18.05 | drantin | karthikp: various naruto/"naurto" results? |
| 03:18.26 | karthikp | Hehe. No, lots of new age crap. |
| 03:18.57 | pARAd0X85 | didn't found anything in Sys Settings, Appearence... |
| 03:19.00 | pARAd0X85 | :( |
| 03:19.10 | pARAd0X85 | openSUSE 11.1, KDE 4.2.2 |
| 03:19.33 | pARAd0X85 | there is no skulture.... |
| 03:19.39 | pARAd0X85 | no widgets |
| 03:19.41 | pARAd0X85 | nothing |
| 03:20.26 | hermanChess | karthikp, is that a distro? |
| 03:20.47 | drantin | pARAd0X85: http://drantin.ath.cx:9100/images/skulpt1.png |
| 03:20.56 | karthikp | Yeah, it's based off of Arch and features KDE. |
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| 03:21.29 | karthikp | Although, I don't know if they put out a stable release yet. |
| 03:21.38 | hermanChess | looks nice |
| 03:22.07 | karthikp | It's sort of like the kdemod thing. (mod = modular packages, not modified, I'm told) |
| 03:22.32 | pARAd0X85 | drantin: the image don't open, I have only 80 port open |
| 03:22.41 | karthikp | On Arch proper, you can break down KDE at most to packages like kdegames, kdeedu etc. |
| 03:22.51 | pARAd0X85 | you send me 9100 port... |
| 03:22.53 | karthikp | If you wanted just one application, you'd be out of luck. |
| 03:23.06 | karthikp | kdemod lets you install just what you need. |
| 03:23.10 | drantin | pARAd0X85: I only have port 9100 forwarded, I can put it on an image pastebin in a bit |
| 03:23.11 | hermanChess | ahh |
| 03:23.39 | karthikp | So, it's really just like a special repo with lots of KDE apps packaged. |
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| 03:24.05 | karthikp | Back in the KDE3 days, though, mod =modified. |
| 03:24.21 | drantin | pARAd0X85: http://imagebin.ca/view/r-Cl2d.html |
| 03:24.25 | karthikp | There were lots of helpful changes they made to the default KDE3. |
| 03:24.48 | karthikp | But, for KDE4, they state that it's pretty much vanilla KDE. |
| 03:25.02 | karthikp | We need a flagship distro. |
| 03:25.18 | karthikp | GNOME has Ubuntu and it's doing wonders for it. |
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| 03:25.53 | karthikp | Now, you can go online without meeting people who think Linux=Ubuntu=GNOME. |
| 03:26.24 | karthikp | We need a distro that puts the focus squarely on KDE and still does pro-newbie things like Ubuntu does. |
| 03:27.13 | karthikp | If chakra can do that, I'd be pretty happy. Arch is a solid base to build from. They might just get a good thing growing. |
| 03:27.35 | karthikp | going. But growing sounds good, too. :) |
| 03:27.36 | hermanChess | isn't that mandriva or opensuse? |
| 03:28.08 | karthikp | Mandriva is traditionally a KDE distro. So's OpenSuse. Both employ KDE people. |
| 03:28.20 | karthikp | Both have given a lot of things back to KDE. |
| 03:28.36 | drantin | discussion is getting a bit into the non-support stuff and should really go to #kde-chat ;) |
| 03:28.50 | karthikp | Yeah, I agree. Sorry about that. :) |
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| 03:30.32 | pARAd0X85 | thank you all |
| 03:30.39 | drantin | pARAd0X85: working now? |
| 03:30.45 | pARAd0X85 | yes, thank |
| 03:30.46 | pARAd0X85 | you |
| 03:31.14 | pARAd0X85 | but, that resolved only a part of the problem, I should fill a bug for this |
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| 03:31.30 | pARAd0X85 | you want that I post a link of my demo ? |
| 03:31.58 | fannagoganna | hi, does anyone know of any KDE4 styles similar to comix in KDE 3.5.x? |
| 03:32.00 | pARAd0X85 | next few days ? |
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| 03:32.08 | pARAd0X85 | :) |
| 03:32.46 | drantin | fannagoganna: the kidz one? (not familiar with comix except as a gtk+2 comic book viewer...) |
| 03:33.06 | karthikp | Looks like there is indeed a bug about the .face.icon issue: bug 188033 |
| 03:33.48 | karthikp | Anyone has a login screen showing an avatar? |
| 03:34.00 | drantin | doesn't use KDM |
| 03:34.05 | xjjk | karthikp: I do... |
| 03:34.41 | fannagoganna | comix style, which is described here (http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Comix?content=16028) |
| 03:35.13 | karthikp | xjjk: KDE4? |
| 03:35.22 | xjjk | karthikp: yes, on Kubuntu, however |
| 03:35.47 | karthikp | I have 4,2.3 and it doesn't seem to work. If it works in Kubuntu, maybe it's a bug in Arch. |
| 03:36.08 | karthikp | Thanks, xjjk. I'll check with Arch. |
| 03:36.15 | xjjk | karthikp: I set the icon in "About Me" in System Settings |
| 03:36.18 | xjjk | appears in KDM fine |
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| 03:36.41 | xjjk | at some point I configured KDM to use user-provided login icons too... |
| 03:37.22 | karthikp | Right. That's in kdmrc. There's a choice between four options. |
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| 03:38.04 | karthikp | UserPrefered should be the default one. But oddly it isn't. In any case, changingi it didn't make any difference anyway, :| |
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| 03:39.50 | karthikp | There's a bug already filed at Arch as well ( and what do you know? it's also linked from the bko bug! ). |
| 03:40.17 | karthikp | So, I guess it's broken and hopefully will get fixed sometime. :/ |
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| 03:46.49 | jza | hi anyone know to what degree is OpenID supported in KDE |
| 03:46.58 | jza | I heard that there was a plasma applet that support OpenID login |
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| 03:48.44 | rohanpm | jza: OpenID login to what? |
| 03:49.23 | jza | rohanpm, aaron didn't really said to what. :) |
| 03:49.38 | jza | "we have an OpenID API in kdelibs already, get hot new stuff uses it, the new (not released, but soon!) first launch plasma applet sports an OpenID login + link to create an open id account." |
| 03:49.42 | xjjk | jza: OpenID is an authentication system for websites... what does plasma have to do with it |
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| 03:49.51 | xjjk | jza: have a link? |
| 03:49.53 | xjjk | to his post |
| 03:50.07 | jza | https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=25506113&postID=8965509364921404829&page=1 |
| 03:50.56 | drantin | would guess for logging into kde-look, etc in get hot new stuff |
| 03:51.19 | drantin | and that people could use it for widgets |
| 03:51.23 | jza | he said to create an openid account, but sounds odd |
| 03:51.31 | drantin | getting data from sites that require authentication, etc |
| 03:51.32 | xjjk | mmm |
| 03:51.40 | xjjk | I have no idea from his comment |
| 03:51.48 | xjjk | neither the first comment or the third (his) make any sense |
| 03:51.51 | jza | xjjk, thats why I am asking is too vage |
| 03:52.02 | jza | xjjk, he was probably stoned again |
| 03:52.05 | xjjk | haha |
| 03:52.34 | xjjk | jza: maybe he was confused with OAuth... |
| 03:52.53 | xjjk | I'm not sure if there's a kdelibs API for that; some apps implement it already |
| 03:52.56 | xjjk | is using one now |
| 03:53.05 | jza | ok thanks, I would love to see openid signing at desktop level for applications that need some web authentication, like Last.fm players and stuff like that. |
| 03:53.22 | xjjk | jza: that's not for OpenID |
| 03:53.24 | xjjk | that's for OAuth |
| 03:53.40 | jza | what is OAuth? |
| 03:53.44 | xjjk | OpenID is for authenticating users to websites |
| 03:53.53 | xjjk | OAuth is a complement for authenticating applications to websites/web services/etc |
| 03:53.58 | xjjk | like last.fm |
| 03:54.01 | xjjk | or Flickr |
| 03:54.16 | drantin | could be used for any remote login system... no reason it should be restricted to web sites |
| 03:54.17 | xjjk | jza: the kipi-plugin for Flickr (and probably the other kipi-plugins too) use OAuth |
| 03:54.22 | xjjk | as does the Flickr plasma applet |
| 03:54.37 | jza | xjjk, got it |
| 03:54.57 | jza | however the point of OpenID is to not have an account on every website right? |
| 03:55.16 | jza | so arguably you can also not have an account to authenticate for each webservice |
| 03:55.18 | drantin | sort of |
| 03:55.27 | xjjk | if you want to be precise, it's to not have separate login credentials for every website |
| 03:55.31 | xjjk | one login and one password |
| 03:55.39 | jza | xjjk, right |
| 03:55.41 | xjjk | you technically still have an account for each website, still need to register, etc |
| 03:56.10 | drantin | how else are they going to store the site-specific data associated with your account, on the openID provider's system? |
| 03:56.21 | xjjk | yep |
| 03:56.27 | drantin | heh |
| 03:56.37 | xjjk | <jza> so arguably you can also not have an account to authenticate for each webservice <- not sure I follow |
| 03:59.05 | jza | xjjk, my idea was if your desktop is openid aware you could automagically login to your websites or services regarless of which app you use to access them. But I it doesnt depend just on the desktop. |
| 03:59.19 | jza | xjjk, but is a bit of a pipedream |
| 03:59.27 | jza | now that I think about it again |
| 03:59.31 | drantin | wants to use his openid for desktop login |
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| 03:59.55 | xjjk | for some reason, that doesn't make sense to me |
| 03:59.59 | xjjk | but I don't know how to explain why |
| 04:00.01 | xjjk | sits for a moment |
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| 04:00.13 | drantin | ooh... http://code.google.com/p/pam-openid/ |
| 04:00.24 | xjjk | drantin: haha, awesome |
| 04:00.43 | xjjk | drantin: no source =/ |
| 04:01.34 | jza | xjjk, not even valid links |
| 04:01.36 | drantin | ah well, openid as it relates to things other than KDE is a bit off-topic here anyway |
| 04:02.12 | xjjk | it's Sunday evening, and there isn't any other discussion happening... |
| 04:02.38 | xjjk | jza: so, what does it mean to be OpenID-aware |
| 04:02.43 | xjjk | take an OpenID as a login? |
| 04:03.28 | jza | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.03 | jza | xjjk, so when you go to a website it will hold your session without you authenticating to it manually. |
| 04:04.26 | xjjk | jza: so, you're saying, the desktop creates that session? |
| 04:04.33 | xjjk | because you logged in? |
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| 04:05.03 | simcop2387 | is there any way to teach okular that it can too open zip files, since it knows what to do when they are renamed .cbz |
| 04:05.18 | jza | xjjk, yes, if gmail was openid aware, I login to my kde desktop, it will make all the openid sites like gmail already hold my session. without me login manually. |
| 04:05.37 | xjjk | jza: OK, so I understand a little better now |
| 04:05.46 | xjjk | jza: I'm not sure why you cant do that now |
| 04:06.04 | xjjk | jza: basically, you just to login into your OpenID provider |
| 04:06.07 | xjjk | as soon as you login |
| 04:06.15 | xjjk | the desktop doesn't really do anything |
| 04:06.42 | xjjk | or maybe I still don't understand, I don't understand the role the desktop plays here |
| 04:06.42 | jza | xjjk, well usually is holded at the browser level |
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| 04:07.19 | jza | xjjk, point is at the desktop level, so a secondary browser wouldnt need to authenticate again, but thats when I can see how hard would that be. |
| 04:07.59 | drantin | shouldn't be that hard to tie it in with konqueror, since it could be written to support it |
| 04:08.08 | xjjk | I'm still not really following... |
| 04:08.24 | jza | drantin, exactly, but not firefox or opera. |
| 04:08.35 | jza | drantin, thats when it becomes very complex to implement. |
| 04:09.21 | ScottG | All my small icons seem to have disappeared. When I go to the menu and browse through different programs, they don't have the small icons next to them. Also when a program is starting, there is just a little brown/gray square next to the cursor instead of an icon for the application that is starting. |
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| 04:09.29 | jza | xjjk, well on a sysadmin level, think about having keys so you dont need to authenticate each time to your servers or tunnels. |
| 04:10.14 | jza | xjjk, once you loging to your shell, all keys are up and running without authenticating manually. |
| 04:11.08 | xjjk | jza: I think I'm just slow tonight... |
| 04:11.30 | xjjk | *still* not following |
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| 04:11.36 | xjjk | with keys, you're still authenticating |
| 04:11.54 | xjjk | are you talking about something that holds unencrypted keys in memory? like ssh-agent and what not |
| 04:12.08 | OldMonk | with upgrade from 3 to 4 shift-space has started sending NUL instead of SPACE. Any way to change that? |
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| 04:16.11 | jza | xjjk, sorry back... yeah ssh-agent like |
| 04:16.45 | xjjk | jza: so, with your example |
| 04:16.53 | xjjk | even when you logging into machine, and into another machine |
| 04:16.54 | jza | xjjk, the goal is to make webapps act like real apps, where authentication process is passed to the desktop. |
| 04:17.08 | xjjk | you're passing this socket back to the original running instance of ssh-agent |
| 04:17.25 | jza | xjjk, the difference between koffice and gdocs is authentication. |
| 04:18.07 | jza | xjjk, if gdoc supported openid once u logged in every site that is on your openid wallet will be already authenticated. |
| 04:18.27 | jza | xjjk, got it? |
| 04:18.47 | xjjk | jza: I think... from what I know this isn't possible? |
| 04:19.18 | xjjk | the way each site stores session is still proprietary to that site |
| 04:19.55 | xjjk | when you enter your OpenID on a site, the site authenticates you on the basis that your OpenID provider says who you are is who you are |
| 04:20.02 | OldMonk | *phew* found it! |
| 04:20.04 | xjjk | are you saying your KDE desktop should be an OpenID procider? |
| 04:20.06 | xjjk | provider* |
| 04:20.10 | jza | xjjk, no |
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| 04:20.27 | jza | xjjk, but the desktop should do the manual task of authenticate you from the getgo. |
| 04:20.44 | xjjk | how is that not the function of the OpenID provider |
| 04:21.21 | OldMonk | in case anyone's wondering, you need to toggle on: systemsettings/regional and language/keyboard layout/Advanced tab/Using space to input non-breakable space character/Usual space at any level |
| 04:21.35 | OldMonk | though i'd appreciate if someone explained what these space levels are |
| 04:21.44 | jza | xjjk, ok let say this, get your desktop to authenticate you to your OpenID provider once you logged in. |
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| 04:21.53 | mib_devn3frg | :) |
| 04:22.06 | xjjk | jza: let's use some concrete examples here |
| 04:22.11 | xjjk | say my OpenID provider is Yahoo |
| 04:22.21 | pARAd0X85 | :) |
| 04:22.24 | xjjk | my desktop logs me into Yahoo by loading up yahoo.com and logging me in |
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| 04:22.37 | pARAd0X85 | so I want to invoke a method through DBus |
| 04:22.50 | pARAd0X85 | I want to control gwenview |
| 04:23.14 | pARAd0X85 | this doesn't work for me : qdbus org.kde.gwenview-20428 /KMainWindow actions |
| 04:23.37 | jza | xjjk, right so the key here is that is logged in in the background and when you go to yahoo mail, you see your inbox instead of your yahoo authentication screen. |
| 04:24.09 | xjjk | jza: OK, because when you logged in initially, it set a cookie/session key somewhere |
| 04:24.16 | jza | xjjk, yep |
| 04:24.25 | xjjk | so, now because you're logged into Yahoo |
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| 04:24.33 | OldMonk | btw, how to add a VCard to a file resource in akonadi using qdbus? |
| 04:24.36 | xjjk | you should be able to just go to any OpenID-enabled site and get logged in quickly? |
| 04:24.39 | pARAd0X85 | what's wrong with my cmd ? |
| 04:24.50 | xjjk | I still don't see what the desktop does here other than prompt you initially... |
| 04:24.59 | jza | xjjk, but thats the annoyance, having to login each time you start your desktop. |
| 04:25.24 | OldMonk | so create an openid PAM module and use that as your main auth mechanism |
| 04:25.56 | jza | xjjk, ok lets use reverse example, imagine each time you start kmail you need to authenticate to your server. Which you could, but nobody does it. Is automatically authenticated. So you start kmail and you get your mail. |
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| 04:26.14 | xjjk | OK |
| 04:26.31 | jza | xjjk, the openid proposal is to do the same on web applications |
| 04:26.57 | xjjk | but.... it's not the same... |
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| 04:27.47 | jza | xjjk, usually kdewallet stores your user and password, but it waits for you to submit it. What if it submit it for you. |
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| 04:29.00 | xjjk | submits my OpenID for me? the fact that it's http://me.name/? |
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| 04:37.16 | xjjk | jza: BTW... http://aseigo.blogspot.com/search/label/openid |
| 04:37.24 | xjjk | he elaborates a little more on OpenID support in KDE |
| 04:37.45 | xjjk | I have *no* clue what he's talking about... looking through the KDE sources now |
| 04:41.30 | jza | xjjk, ok here is a simple question, what does that plasmoid do exactly? |
| 04:41.44 | xjjk | jza: still looking for the source... |
| 04:42.09 | jza | xjjk, I was hoping aaron will go into explaining what the plasmoid do for users. But I guess the vision is similar: |
| 04:42.13 | xjjk | GOogle isn't good for this |
| 04:42.19 | xjjk | I should do a svn checkout and grep... |
| 04:42.27 | xjjk | does anyone have a checkout already to go through? |
| 04:42.28 | jza | "gnome, xfce, firefox, et al? can we join hands and push forward on the same online identification system? we don't have to formally agree or even coordinate the specifics... we just have to all start using it where it makes sense and telling our users about it. " |
| 04:42.30 | ScottG | All my small icons seem to have disappeared. When I go to the menu and browse through different programs, they don't have the small icons next to them. Also when a program is starting, there is just a little brown/gray square next to the cursor instead of an icon for the application that is starting. |
| 04:45.12 | jza | xjjk, so this is what I am trying to get Google claims to be an OpenID provider http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/docs/OpenID.html |
| 04:45.26 | jza | however it doesnt allow other openid provider to work with his apps |
| 04:45.34 | jza | sound very microsoftish to me |
| 04:45.43 | drantin | it's only a provider unfortunately |
| 04:45.45 | xjjk | jza: the term you're looking for is "relaying party" |
| 04:45.48 | jza | is like Jabber and Gtalk |
| 04:45.55 | xjjk | openid relaying party is a site that can take OpenID logins |
| 04:46.08 | xjjk | jza: yeah... and actually, Microsoft, Yahoo, and AOL also provide OpenIDs |
| 04:46.17 | xjjk | but they aren't relaying parties either |
| 04:46.21 | jza | not microsoft |
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| 04:46.33 | jza | they are still working on it's liveID |
| 04:46.47 | jza | I was reading about it yesterday |
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| 04:46.56 | xjjk | jza: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/microsoft_windows_live_openid.php |
| 04:47.07 | jza | but is true, I cant use myopenid.com to login into google, or yahoo or anything else. |
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| 04:47.10 | xjjk | jza: they're integrating in into something else called Cardspace |
| 04:48.18 | jza | xjjk, ok I am surprised since this post is from 2008 |
| 04:48.37 | jza | xjjk, I was reading a more current post by Microsoft saying they "plan" to support OpenID |
| 04:48.48 | jza | oh well... |
| 04:48.53 | xjjk | jza: they do, as a provider |
| 04:48.56 | xjjk | not a relaying party |
| 04:49.37 | xjjk | which isn't that useful |
| 04:49.41 | xjjk | I have like 20 OpenIDs |
| 04:49.42 | xjjk | I only need one |
| 04:49.48 | xjjk | I rather have 20 sites that let me use the OpenID |
| 04:50.24 | jza | xjjk, exactly |
| 04:50.52 | jza | xjjk, which you could from drupal sites with the OpenID module |
| 04:51.08 | xjjk | yeh... all the Drupal sites I run I've enabled OpenID |
| 04:51.09 | jza | xjjk, which should be on the core, same as wordpress for comments. |
| 04:51.36 | xjjk | right |
| 04:51.43 | jza | xjjk, btw, you ever tried to implement OpenID on mediawiki, I tried it but was a pain on the ass. |
| 04:51.59 | xjjk | jza: thankfully, I don't run any MediaWiki installs |
| 04:52.01 | jza | xjjk, seems there are different versions of OpenID libraries in PHP and some are broken. |
| 04:52.03 | xjjk | I pass the pain to other people |
| 04:52.11 | xjjk | my MoinMoin wikis work with OpenID great |
| 04:52.18 | jza | xjjk, plone does to |
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| 05:05.30 | ScottG | All my small icons seem to have disappeared. When I go to the menu and browse through different programs, they don't have the small icons next to them. Also when a program is starting, there is just a little brown/gray square next to the cursor instead of an icon for the application that is starting. |
| 05:06.24 | OldMonk | how can one add an entry in an address book using qdbus and akonad? needed for kbbdb to work on kde4 |
| 05:07.20 | OldMonk | er, akonadi |
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| 05:10.58 | drantin | OldMonk: poked around with qdbusviewer? |
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| 05:12.26 | drantin | specifically at org.freedesktop.Akonadi.Control, in /AgentManager although I'm not too familiar with akonadi so I don't see just which of those items would help... |
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| 06:14.20 | naught101 | in konqueror 3.5.x, it was possible to paste text from the clipboard directly into a new text file. Is that possible in 4.2? |
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| 06:18.28 | Mamarok | naught101: I guess so, why would this have changed? |
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| 06:18.53 | naught101 | Mamarok: it used to be in the right click menu, now it's not |
| 06:19.40 | Mamarok | naught101: you can configure the clipboard aka klipper |
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| 08:28.00 | poppler | hello there |
| 08:29.20 | poppler | I'm trying to develop a simple ruby plasmoid following the getting started instructions. What should I install to get "ruby support for plasma" ? is it a package I found with gem or is it in the kde tree' |
| 08:29.22 | poppler | ? |
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| 08:31.13 | PaSzCzUs | hello. Anyone here using kmail+pgp ? I cannot send signed email with kmail cause everytime i click send i got an error, that password for pgp is incorrect. But there is no prompt for password where i can enter it... |
| 08:31.43 | Mamarok | PaSzCzUs: use gpg |
| 08:32.18 | Mamarok | and the prompt might be disabled because you asked to store the password |
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| 08:47.03 | PaSzCzUs | Mamarok: ok, i use gpg, right |
| 08:47.11 | PaSzCzUs | Mamarok: but there is no place to store password |
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| 08:47.48 | Finswimmer | Hello, is it true that KArk does not support multiple rar archives? |
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| 08:50.13 | PaSzCzUs | Mamarok: ok, i`ve installed pinentry and now it prompts me for password |
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| 08:50.31 | Mamarok | PaSzCzUs: maybe you stored the password before, it would be in the kdewallet then |
| 08:50.43 | Mamarok | PaSzCzUs: ok then :) |
| 08:50.58 | Mamarok | wasn't pinetry installed by default with kontact? |
| 08:51.31 | PaSzCzUs | no |
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| 08:55.54 | Mamarok | PaSzCzUs: complain to your distribution then, that should be a dependency for kmail |
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| 08:58.47 | zhick | Finswimmer: at least it doesn't work for me, so yes, appears to be true |
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| 08:59.37 | Finswimmer | zhick: What a pitty. Working with CLI and "unrar x" is not the comfortable way... |
| 09:00.53 | zhick | Finswimmer: well, i don't find it very annoying. |
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| 09:04.00 | Kraplax | hello |
| 09:04.22 | Kraplax | can anyone tell me how to follow those microblogging on planetkde.org? |
| 09:05.11 | Kraplax | to be able see ALL updates that make their way to planetkde.org without following all people that are aggregated |
| 09:05.39 | Mamarok | Kraplax: I fear I don't understand... |
| 09:05.40 | Kraplax | like, follow some "public" planetkde account or something |
| 09:05.48 | Kraplax | well |
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| 09:06.03 | Mamarok | Kraplax: microblogging comes from twitter or identi.ca |
| 09:06.17 | Kraplax | Mamarok: yep |
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| 09:06.47 | Mamarok | Kraplax: what do you mean by "follow"? |
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| 09:07.49 | Kraplax | Mamarok: on twitter you press 'follow' and updates of those people whom you follow will be shown to you |
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| 09:15.07 | Finswimmer | zhick: It seems to work if the archive files named .rar, .r00, .01... and not part1.rar, part2.rar. |
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| 09:17.05 | Mamarok | Kraplax: well, you can add those people to your twitter then |
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| 09:17.35 | Mamarok | Kraplax: but there is no "follow" button on planetkde.org |
| 09:18.01 | Mamarok | you can subscript to the planet by rss, not the microbloggin, at least not directly |
| 09:18.09 | Mamarok | +g |
| 09:18.24 | Kraplax | Mamarok: that's what i am talking about - i don't want to find everyone's account (some of them are on identi.ca), i want to follow one account that'd aggregate all those ones as it does for the planetkde.org site |
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| 09:19.29 | Mamarok | Kraplax: don't think this is possible right now |
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| 09:20.26 | Kraplax | oh.. tha't sad. why is it not possible - it works well for site, it could just be doubled on some 'public' account |
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| 09:24.04 | Mamarok | Kraplax: if you have a solution, come up with it, if it were so simple... |
| 09:24.40 | Kraplax | yeah, i'll try to :) |
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| 09:45.03 | hermanChess | anybody knows how can I have stalonetray always on top? |
| 09:46.54 | PhilRod | hermanChess: is it a normal window? if so, then Alt+F3 -> advanced -> keep above others |
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| 10:43.21 | lord_rob | Hi ! Is it possible not to restart all the apps I had before disconnecting KDE when starting it again ? I could do that with KDE 3 |
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| 10:48.34 | Mamarok | lord_rob: save session is default, AFAIK, but not necessarily for non-KDE apps |
| 10:49.23 | Rapp | does anyone else have problems with Konq in KDE 4.2.x, like websites not loading correctly, the status bar showing "loading 320 of 450 images" or so |
| 10:49.28 | Mamarok | lord_rob: else you can change settings in SystemSettings -> Advanced Tab - Sesion Manager |
| 10:49.42 | Rapp | very peculiar, i did not have this in KDE 3, but in KDE 4, Konq fails on many websites |
| 10:49.46 | Mamarok | Rapp: looks like a strange website with that many images... |
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| 10:50.26 | Rapp | Mamarok: that's the trick, it does not have those images. Firefox shows much less images |
| 10:50.48 | Mamarok | Rapp: could be there is some strange javascript inside or such, start it from a konsole and you can see in the output what's wrong |
| 10:50.58 | Rapp | i guess |
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| 10:54.28 | lord_rob | thanks Mamarok |
| 10:54.44 | Mamarok | lord_rob: you are welcome :) |
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| 10:55.46 | aspect | how does kde decide what programs to include in my session? I can't get it to persist firefox and thunderbird |
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| 11:09.55 | Mamarok | aspect: add them to autostart |
| 11:12.21 | aspect | Mamarok: thanks. But how do I know which apps need this and which can be saved in a session? |
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| 11:12.59 | Mamarok | aspect: KDE apps are saved by default, Firefox being a GTK app, it won't |
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| 11:13.26 | aspect | right. but urxvt, gvim and conky ...? |
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| 11:13.43 | Mamarok | gvim = GTK |
| 11:14.01 | aspect | these three start from being saved in my session |
| 11:14.14 | Mamarok | don't know the others, what do they do? |
| 11:14.21 | Mamarok | conky? |
| 11:14.26 | Mamarok | sounds KDEish |
| 11:14.54 | aspect | urxvt is rxvt-unicode, a terminal emulator |
| 11:14.54 | aspect | conky is a system stats monitor which should be in kde but isn't :) |
| 11:15.12 | Mamarok | aspect: why not just use konsole and then change the profile for the terminal? |
| 11:15.15 | lord_rob | I have the same problem with xchat and amsn |
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| 11:15.29 | Mamarok | system stats are shown by monitor widgets |
| 11:15.32 | aspect | I'm used to urxvt |
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| 11:16.18 | afd_ | hi! My plasma gets stuck sometimes, and after I kill it, the profile is reseted to default (Ubuntu Jaunty here). How can I make a backup of the profile, so that I can write it back? |
| 11:16.27 | aspect | you seem to misunderstand -- I don't have a problem with these apps; they work fine; I'm just wondering why my kde session knows about them despite their not being kde apps |
| 11:16.30 | lord_rob | so I don't think it starts kde only apps but this is not the question, if I can disable the feature ;) |
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| 11:17.52 | aspect | does find in .kde to try and see where the session is kept |
| 11:18.31 | pinotree | aspect: because there's a X11 protocol for session handling, called SM |
| 11:19.13 | aspect | pinotree: aha! that's what I was after; thanks for that |
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| 11:21.08 | BtbN | Is it possible to configure kate/katepart so i can scroll down until the last line of the doc is the first line in the view? |
| 11:21.41 | Mamarok | BtbN: I don't know, if, it should be in the settings |
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| 11:23.32 | lord_rob | Mamarok: I cannot access any option of the connection manager, they are all greyed out ... Do I need to log in as root ? |
| 11:23.53 | Mamarok | connection manager, you mean the widget? |
| 11:25.12 | lord_rob | uh no maybe I confused session manager with connection manager |
| 11:25.22 | lord_rob | I'm using french KDE |
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| 11:25.46 | lord_rob | ah yes sorry |
| 11:27.08 | lord_rob | problem fixed thanks Mamarok |
| 11:27.34 | Mamarok | lord_rob: je t'en prie :) |
| 11:27.38 | lord_rob | merci :) |
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| 11:29.08 | aspect | (for anyone curious: sessions are due to ksmserver, which stores state in .kde/share/config/ksmserverrc and .kde/share/config/sessions/) |
| 11:29.31 | varlon | hi, I'm start to use kde4 on debian unstable. So, in this case I change gdm to kdm, but I can't setup kdm (dafault view is ugly). In System Settings I see a Login window, but all tabs on this dialog is disabled, how can I setup kde (change font, themes, etc.)? |
| 11:29.52 | ghabit | Hello. Is it possible to get konqueror working with sites like picasaweb.google.com and gmail.com? (kde4.2.3) |
| 11:30.20 | Mamarok | varlon: what version does Debian ship? |
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| 11:30.40 | Mamarok | ghabit: yes, but only in basic html mode |
| 11:30.42 | varlon | debian unstable (sid) |
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| 11:30.50 | ghabit | Mamarok: Thanks. |
| 11:30.57 | Mamarok | varlon: yeah, I read that, but what version of KDE? |
| 11:31.07 | lord_rob | 4.2.2 Mamarok |
| 11:31.16 | varlon | kde 4.2.2 |
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| 11:31.57 | Mamarok | varlon: well, there are other themes you can install from kde-llok.org, go to systemSettings -> Appearance -> Spash screen |
| 11:32.05 | Mamarok | look* |
| 11:32.58 | varlon | Mamarok, I have not problem with splash screen, it's working fine |
| 11:33.08 | varlon | I can't setup Login dialog (kdm) |
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| 11:33.30 | varlon | kdm workng, but I can't change any thing for them |
| 11:33.53 | Mamarok | varlon: not sure you can change that yet, check in systemsettings -> Advanced Tab ->Login Manager |
| 11:34.05 | varlon | I check :-) |
| 11:34.23 | varlon | in this dialog all tabs disabled :) |
| 11:34.41 | varlon | I don't know how to enabled thems |
| 11:35.34 | Mamarok | varlon: you have to start systemsettings from the console then |
| 11:36.05 | Mamarok | as this is the login manager and it can only be started with admin rights, you can only edit it with those |
| 11:36.35 | aspect | varlon: you need use "kdesu systemsettings"; the interface to gain privileges doesn't appear to be implemented yet :/ |
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| 11:37.43 | Mamarok | varlon: it will be anabled in kde 4.3 |
| 11:37.52 | Mamarok | the admin rights dialog I mean |
| 11:37.57 | Mamarok | actually, it is :) |
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| 11:38.14 | varlon | thanks |
| 11:38.14 | Mamarok | ok, food, bbl |
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| 11:42.15 | varlon | "kdesu systemsettings" working! Mamarok, aspect, thanks :) |
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| 11:43.20 | varlon | but... Get New Themes don't work. I think it problem of my disto |
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| 11:44.40 | Whiteheat | hi - quick question - does dolphin support tabbed interface? |
| 11:44.52 | varlon | yeap |
| 11:44.59 | Whiteheat | ie similar to konqueror file manager |
| 11:45.09 | varlon | ctrl+t |
| 11:45.44 | ghabit | varlon: I have it issue too. get new themes does not working. |
| 11:45.50 | Whiteheat | hmmm - must be a new addition - doesnt work in kde3 |
| 11:45.55 | ghabit | Also I cannot install new plasmoids from menu. |
| 11:46.23 | ghabit | Whiteheat: I have kde4 |
| 11:46.30 | ghabit | 4.2.3 |
| 11:46.35 | varlon | I haven't problem with plasmoids or wallpapers, but have a problem with themes for kdm |
| 11:46.56 | Whiteheat | yep - i guess most people on this list would have kde4 |
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| 11:51.13 | Whiteheat | yep definitely works in kde4 - just not in kde3 - !@!@!@!@@# |
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| 11:55.17 | Whiteheat | i have mint6-kde4 in a vm at the moment - looking for a large hard disk to do a backup b 4 upgrading. looks like the new dolphin is approaching the qualities of konq that I like. So now ther is little reason to use konq - which is obviously what the kde developers want |
| 11:56.29 | Peace- | so and? |
| 11:56.40 | Peace- | konqueror is nice web browser |
| 11:56.56 | Peace- | expecially light |
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| 12:00.02 | Whiteheat | konq is an ok web browser - but a better file manager - but it does have some issues |
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| 12:01.45 | Finswimmer | Hello, does someone know about a good program to manage cell phones (read/write sms, backup, etc) |
| 12:01.53 | Whiteheat | i particularly like the kio slaves, however the smb kio slave is a bit crappy, whereas dolphin is very good |
| 12:02.16 | Whiteheat | in that area |
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| 12:06.40 | tuxick | konq "view source" opens in kword which does its own rendering |
| 12:06.49 | tuxick | where to change to kate? |
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| 12:16.49 | Hetor | hi |
| 12:17.08 | Hetor | is there any way to make GTK+ applications look like KDE ones? |
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| 12:18.21 | BeteNoire | you can try gtk-engines for qt |
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| 12:19.26 | Half-Left | Hetor: There is actually a decent Oxygen GTK theme called oxygen-molecule |
| 12:19.38 | Hetor | ah |
| 12:19.45 | Hetor | thanks |
| 12:20.03 | Half-Left | It's about the best one I've seen anyway |
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| 12:31.34 | shade | hello |
| 12:31.42 | pbn | HI there, where can I find a weather applet / widget/ plastmoid for KDE 4.2.x ? |
| 12:32.03 | shade | pbn: tryed looking on kde-look.org? |
| 12:32.08 | pbn | yeah |
| 12:32.31 | shade | there should be many |
| 12:32.39 | pbn | ah right |
| 12:32.41 | pbn | I see them now |
| 12:33.20 | shade | btw, i have problem with kde finding my ethernet cards, exacly plasma applet for networkmonitoring, anyone skilled around? |
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| 12:38.15 | pbn | ok found one |
| 12:38.51 | pbn | also that little applet with a blue button to lock the screen and a red button to shutdown, there was one for KDE 3.x but I can't find it for KDE 4.x ... where is it ? |
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| 12:45.32 | shade | pbn: plasma, add widget (or something like that) and look for (!) icon (red one) |
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| 12:49.06 | tartugo | hi to all, how to block "flash" under konqueror "kde4.3" i don't want to uninstall flash on my system i just want to not use it under konqueror , any idea ?tks |
| 12:49.40 | pbn | can't find it |
| 12:49.46 | JukeBoxHero | tartugo: i suppose you can remove the flash plugin from the list in the configuration |
| 12:50.20 | tartugo | tks |
| 12:51.03 | tartugo | JukeBoxHero: it seems i can't |
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| 12:51.50 | shade | pnb: you know where are all plasma widgets? |
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| 13:19.05 | cghislai | BeteNoire: dont display html messages |
| 13:19.17 | cghislai | you will fallback to standart text ones |
| 13:19.25 | DrSlony | How do I batch rename files from gwenview? My "Plugins" menu has several categories but no plugins in them. |
| 13:20.03 | BeteNoire | cghislai: bingo, thx :) |
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| 13:39.21 | arkascha | What does the size of icons in a panel in kde4 depend on ? SOme icons are big, some small and I cannot see a difference in the setup... |
| 13:40.08 | bsacabral | Hello Everybody, i´m interested into KDE development, what is the best way to start ? |
| 13:40.53 | arkascha | bsacabral: choose a simple idea of an application you are missing, take a look at similar applications and start coding "your" application. |
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| 13:41.54 | arkascha | bsacabral: maybe you want to take a look into the lsit of pending "JuniorJobs" (See KDE-Bugzilla or Google) |
| 13:42.53 | bsacabral | And there´s any Tutor program ? |
| 13:43.01 | SSJ_GZ | bsacabral: Fixing whatever minor bugs niggle you is also a good place to start :) |
| 13:43.19 | bsacabral | I mean, like GSoC but witout money, only a tutor help ? |
| 13:44.07 | arkascha | bsacabral: take a look at http://forum.kde.org/ , there are some courses too. |
| 13:44.20 | SSJ_GZ | bsacabral: http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/04/20/announcing-season-of-kde-2009/ |
| 13:45.13 | bsacabral | Nice |
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| 13:48.48 | SSJ_GZ | bsacabral: What kind of thing were you specifically interested in, btw? |
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| 13:51.37 | bsacabral | I develop for years in MFC, but i start learing Qt and i got in love with Kde. I really like the project and i think that a good way to improve my Qt Skills is helping Kde. The project that i like and possibilty can help is rekonq , KWord or Plasma. |
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| 13:52.43 | SSJ_GZ | bsacabral: #koffice, #plasma - go introduce yourself :) (Although be prepared for the fact that many devs might not be around atm) |
| 13:53.13 | ToreadorVampire | Kubuntu question - using KDE 4.2.2/Kubuntu Jaunty - I'm trying to use the old KDE 3.5-style window-splitting in Konqueror. Ctrl+Shift+L and Ctrl+Shift+T to split horiz and vertically ... |
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| 13:54.55 | ToreadorVampire | I just discovered that if I try to re-split my first "portion" of window, it overrides the splits for the whole konqueror tab, rather than re-splitting. If it's a bug, oops, I'll report it. If it's an intentional change of the way the functionality works then is there a way I can force KDE4 to go back to the KDE3.5 behaviour? |
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| 13:55.51 | bsacabral | OK SSJ_GZ will look around, thanks for the help |
| 13:55.59 | kubu | Hello what config file do I need to edit in order to create sub-menus in kde kickoff menu? |
| 13:56.34 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: works for me, it dies re-splitting. |
| 13:56.37 | SSJ_GZ | bsacabral: np, good luck! |
| 13:56.46 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: sorry, it "does" it does not "die" :-) |
| 13:57.58 | ToreadorVampire | arkascha> Oh? I can't get it to do as I want ... just to clarify - what I want is a 4-way split (4 quarters, so split the main view vertically, then split each of those halves horizontally) |
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| 13:58.22 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: no problem, just split it into 8 portions, different sizes. |
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| 13:59.01 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: though I have different versions, using kde-4.3-beta @ opensuse-11.1 |
| 13:59.17 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: maybe you want to check the shortcuts assigned ? |
| 14:00.09 | ToreadorVampire | What happens to me is that I split the main window vertically (so I have a left and right portion), then I split the right-hand side horizontally (so I have left and then topright/bottomright) ... fine so far ... then I try splitting the left hand pane into topleft and bottomleft and it re-starts the whole split, meaning that instead of: topright/bottomright + topleft/bottomleft I just have "top" and "bottom" |
| 14:00.48 | ToreadorVampire | It's like it chooses to "restart the whole split action" and forget that "it was dealing with a split window" in the first place |
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| 14:01.30 | ToreadorVampire | But maybe that's a bug that's been fixed in KDE 4.3? |
| 14:01.58 | carsten | Perhaps somebody has a free minute and could try to confirm the OOo bug I just reported: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=102225 |
| 14:02.53 | ToreadorVampire | is torn between soldiering on with KDE 4 or just rolling back to KDE 3.5 for now until KDE 4 is more mature |
| 14:04.02 | Half-Left | Well alot of changed for the better but some functionallity has actually changed anyway from KDE3 |
| 14:04.14 | Half-Left | has* |
| 14:04.58 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: again: cant confirm that behaviour, works for me. |
| 14:05.14 | ToreadorVampire | Mmm, tbh I haven't really used much of the "different" functionality ... I tried playing with the plasma desktop widgets, but got annoyed that they can't be raised above other windows, so I barely ever use the widgets |
| 14:05.25 | ToreadorVampire | arkascha> I will have to assume it was fixed in KDE 4.3 |
| 14:05.42 | DrSlony | How do I batch rename files from gwenview? My "Plugins" menu has several categories but no plugins in them. |
| 14:06.06 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: might be, I have no idea, but I do not recall that problem when working with kde4.2, though I use splitting frequently. |
| 14:06.10 | Half-Left | ToreadorVampire: Widgets can no because they're bottom level, they're also graphiclayers not actual windows |
| 14:07.30 | ToreadorVampire | Half-Left> Exactly, oh I appreciate "why" they can't be raised, but that "cannot be raised" state means they are of very little use to me, because as I work I typically can't see my desktop - I have windows covering them ... so if I wanted to see a "sticky note" I had put on my plasma desktop, my only option is to clear my desktop first |
| 14:08.08 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: about the plasma widgets: sure you ant to raise 'em on top level ? |
| 14:08.20 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: you can "morph" em in front, kind of. |
| 14:08.35 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: so that you can use them without minimizing any window |
| 14:08.59 | ToreadorVampire | arkascha> Well, no ... but I'm comparing the behaviour of (for example) the new "sticky notes" widget to kstickynotes (or whatever it was called) back in KDE 3.5 |
| 14:09.17 | Half-Left | ToreadorVampire: That's why you have dashboard :p |
| 14:09.55 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: ah, ok. Half-Left: he want's the sticky note to be visible permanently. |
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| 14:10.18 | arkascha | and there is no separate application for such notes ? |
| 14:10.50 | Half-Left | Well, you can't sime as that |
| 14:10.54 | Half-Left | simple* |
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| 14:12.03 | ToreadorVampire | arkascha, Half-Left> No, not really permanently ... but "raisable" - the way I use sticky notes is for "making brief notes about tasks I am doing". So I'd like to be able to see it alongside an application (say an editor) that I'm running. Basically I'd like them to have "all of the traits of a normal window" |
| 14:12.13 | Half-Left | Though if people can't adjust their workflow a little bit then it's their issue more really |
| 14:12.48 | arkascha | Half-Left: come on, he asks for some feature he thinks makes sense. There is no right or wrong in this. |
| 14:13.28 | ToreadorVampire | The dashboard is like a "show the widgets above everything else" effect isn't it? |
| 14:13.37 | Half-Left | arkascha: Well then look at the design, it's NOT design like that |
| 14:14.17 | Half-Left | And widgets not being windows has it's advantages |
| 14:14.19 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: doent a separate application using "real" windows serve your idea ? |
| 14:15.22 | ToreadorVampire | Yeah, that kstickynotes app was cool :) I guess I'll have to find it and reinstall it on this kubuntu jaunty install, then remove the sticky notes plasma widget |
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| 14:15.50 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: there is "knotes4" that seems to replace it. Try using kstart to tell it to stay top-level. |
| 14:16.22 | ToreadorVampire | Also, I need to find some way of getting katapult back, because that simple calculator widget is missing way too many features over katapult's simple "Alt+Space+[type in your calculation]" » There's the answer |
| 14:16.39 | ToreadorVampire | Ah arkascha That's why I didn't find it when I searched my repos - I was searching under the wrong name :) |
| 14:16.54 | Half-Left | ToreadorVampire: Krunner does that |
| 14:17.02 | kdepepo | ToreadorVampire, Alt+F2 -> =14*17 [enter] |
| 14:17.37 | ToreadorVampire | oic, I didn't know about that - thanks Half-Left and kdepepo |
| 14:17.44 | ToreadorVampire | re-binds that to Alt+Space |
| 14:17.49 | arkascha | kdepepo: didnt know that too, thanks ! |
| 14:18.22 | arkascha | thinks we are all happy again now :-) |
| 14:19.22 | Half-Left | arkascha: We?, you you part of his hive borg collection? :p |
| 14:19.40 | aspect | wow, I didn't know krunner could do that |
| 14:20.06 | aspect | does it have any other talents I might not know? |
| 14:20.14 | Half-Left | Yer, lots |
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| 14:20.26 | Fanfare | Hi @ all |
| 14:20.51 | aspect | looks for documentation |
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| 14:21.43 | Fanfare | Q: is it possible to start an app but ASK an option before? |
| 14:21.46 | arkascha | Half-Left: can it make me a coffee ?!? |
| 14:23.23 | Half-Left | arkascha: No, but if you walk in to your kitchen, you may find that functionality |
| 14:23.56 | arkascha | Half-Left: ah, ok. True, there must be a reason why it is called kitchen with a "k". |
| 14:24.06 | Half-Left | Speaking of which! |
| 14:24.11 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 14:24.57 | Fanfare | like kdialog --msgbox "%?" , where %? will be asked before... |
| 14:25.11 | ToreadorVampire | Ah yes, knotes is JUST what I wanted :) |
| 14:25.17 | ToreadorVampire | ty arkascha |
| 14:25.30 | arkascha | ToreadorVampire: :-) da-nich-fuer... |
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| 14:26.03 | Half-Left | notes there is a Milk Widget in 4.3 :p |
| 14:26.09 | arkascha | Fanfare: ha, what about a 2-line script using kdialog --yesno (or how it is called) and start the app if yes is coming back ? |
| 14:26.22 | Half-Left | "Remember The Milk" |
| 14:26.28 | arkascha | laughs out loud |
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| 14:27.20 | cumulus007 | I want to send a notification message to KNotify via DBus on KDE 4.x... is there any documentation available about this? |
| 14:27.40 | pinotree | cumulus007: kdialog --passivepopup |
| 14:27.58 | hnsz2002 | hi! i have a problem with gwenview on kde3. it's crash immediately after start. |
| 14:28.03 | cumulus007 | of course, I totally forgotten kdialog, thanks :) |
| 14:28.08 | hnsz2002 | this is the end of strace: http://pastebin.com/m506dc746 |
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| 14:31.07 | hnsz2002 | if i change the symlink libexiv2.so.2 --> libexiv2.so.2.1.0 to libexiv2.so.2 --> libexiv2.so.5.3.0, gwenview works |
| 14:31.18 | hnsz2002 | ...and another application crashing :) |
| 14:31.37 | pinotree | looks like you miss some library |
| 14:31.43 | pinotree | how did you install gwenview? |
| 14:32.18 | hnsz2002 | from distro package |
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| 14:32.39 | hnsz2002 | i try early reinstall force... |
| 14:32.42 | arkascha | can someone pastebin me his sane collection of actions in klipper ? mine seems to have been deleted during kde upgrade... |
| 14:32.47 | pinotree | exactly, never do that |
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| 14:32.55 | pinotree | best ask in the channel of your distro |
| 14:33.13 | pARAd0X85 | hi |
| 14:33.34 | pARAd0X85 | can I use compiz in KDE4 ? (Compiz and not KWin) |
| 14:33.43 | ToreadorVampire | pARAd0X85> I do and it works OK |
| 14:33.53 | pARAd0X85 | how ? |
| 14:34.39 | ToreadorVampire | I replaced kwin with compiz - erm, it was pretty simple - kubuntu has compiz in it's repos, I installed that, along with the nVidia GLX driver, and then "default applications" is in KDE4's System Settings and I changed the WM from there |
| 14:35.05 | hnsz2002 | pinotree: ok... |
| 14:35.24 | pARAd0X85 | ToreadorVampire, it can be done with an openSUSE ? |
| 14:35.35 | ToreadorVampire | pARAd0X85> Maybe - I've never used openSUSE |
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| 14:36.48 | ToreadorVampire | Here's a KDE panel question though - I have a few widgets in my panel - USB device notifier, network manager and battery status ... I resized my panel vertically so I can have two rows of open applications/task bar, but now those little widgets grew in size and they're hogging all of the space down there ... |
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| 14:37.04 | ToreadorVampire | ... can I reduce their size and get them into two rows, so I can claim some more taskbar space? |
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| 14:37.20 | ToreadorVampire | Then once that's answered ... same question about my system tray? |
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| 14:37.29 | pARAd0X85 | ToreadorVampire, System Settings, then ... ? |
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| 14:37.51 | cptr13 | toreador....I think you need to switch to a different task manager plasmoid |
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| 14:37.58 | cptr13 | stasks or the multirow one |
| 14:38.05 | cptr13 | i think that may be what you want |
| 14:38.27 | ToreadorVampire | pARAd0X85> System Settings » Default Applications » Windows Manager » Self explanatory once you get there |
| 14:39.04 | ToreadorVampire | If Compiz is installed correctly then it will appear in that selection menu ... if it's not in the list then "it's not installed right" |
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| 14:39.17 | pARAd0X85 | ToreadorVampire, Thanks !!!! |
| 14:39.18 | cptr13 | I'm not the strongest person in here....but I don't see what that has to do with the task manager..... |
| 14:39.52 | ToreadorVampire | cptr13> Hehe, I was asking a question (about task manager) and also answering pARAd0X85's question about window managers ;) |
| 14:39.59 | ToreadorVampire | So no, they weren't related ;) |
| 14:40.03 | cptr13 | oh *smacks head* I'm sorry |
| 14:40.08 | cptr13 | completely misunderstoood that |
| 14:41.15 | ToreadorVampire | cptr13> But thanks for the "alternative plasmoid" tip ... I'll look out for that then ... hopefully when (one day) I'm happy enough with KDE4 I'll actually install it to my HDDs instead of booting from USB drive |
| 14:41.36 | cptr13 | i use Stasks...I like that. it eliminates the text and only shows the icons |
| 14:41.43 | ToreadorVampire | I guess I will end up installing KDE 4.3 beta at some point |
| 14:41.49 | cptr13 | theres a multirow one I havent triedd which is decent too I think |
| 14:42.39 | ToreadorVampire | cptr13> Yeah, that might be an improvement ... tbh I use compiz more for task-switching, so I barely even need the task bar |
| 14:43.01 | cptr13 | ahh k |
| 14:43.14 | cptr13 | well thats another thing I used to swear by compiz |
| 14:43.25 | cptr13 | but kwin, the build in compositing stuff is actually pretty good |
| 14:43.29 | cptr13 | you could check that out too |
| 14:43.39 | ToreadorVampire | Mmm, I did try it out, but too much stuff was missing ... |
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| 14:44.11 | ToreadorVampire | ... I forget exactly what it was that I wanted but couldn't have with the new kwin, but I tried it for a day and ended up installing compiz |
| 14:44.30 | cptr13 | k toreador...out of curiousity..what distro you using? |
| 14:44.35 | Fanfare | arkascha: ok, thx. there is nothing against a 2liner, but wanted to ask before. IIRC Win had/has something like that. |
| 14:45.19 | ToreadorVampire | kubuntu jaunty (on this install) - I have a more mature KDE 3.5-based Kubuntu Hardy installation on my hard disks ... I am using Jaunty/KDE 4.2 from a USB flash drive atm for evaluation purposes ... |
| 14:45.45 | cptr13 | k cool. I always like to know what folks are using :) |
| 14:45.46 | ToreadorVampire | ... I have only a few little niggling issues that have kept me from totally switching to Jaunty (and replacing the Hardy install on my HDDs) |
| 14:46.01 | cptr13 | kde4 issues or jjaunty issues? |
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| 14:46.26 | ToreadorVampire | cptr13> Well, if I totally understood those issues I would probably have fixed them hehe ;) |
| 14:46.36 | cptr13 | fair enough |
| 14:46.55 | ToreadorVampire | One (that nobody has been able to figure out so far) is that my clipboard sometimes randomly decides to copy text that I have highlighted |
| 14:47.09 | ToreadorVampire | I've since noticed that it mostly happens on GTK-based apps |
| 14:48.03 | ToreadorVampire | But ... well ... you know xchat and mIRC's default selection behaviour? If you select some text then it gets copied to the clipboard automagically ... that has happened on a number of apps I run (and I haven't been able to see much of a pattern, except that I believe they are all GTK-based) |
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| 14:50.11 | ToreadorVampire | I noticed that there is a short (maybe 500 millisecond?) pause between highlighting/selecting the text and "that text getting copied to my clipboard" - it even happens before I have released the mouse button for selection |
| 14:51.15 | jlindsay | That's how it works in xorg in general. It's automatically copied upon selection and you can middle click to paste it. |
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| 14:51.52 | ToreadorVampire | jlindsay> Right, but I'm not talking about middle-click-paste ... I'm talking about ctrl-C |
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| 14:53.38 | ToreadorVampire | Someone did try to explain to me that I have two clipboards, one provided by xorg and "another". Now, from description it seems that I never use the xorg-provided one (I have never used middle-click as paste, indeed, middle click is bound to compiz's "rotate desktop cube" action). But somehow there's some crossover or something in Jaunty, which means that the clipboard isn't behaving as I expect it |
| 14:54.01 | ToreadorVampire | Which is somewhat infuriating when copy/paste is an OS feature I rely on daily |
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| 14:54.43 | ToreadorVampire | If the xorg clipboard is getting in my way, is there some way to just switch it off completely and use the "other clipboard" (which I assume KDE provides?) |
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| 14:59.15 | MinceR | they're both in x |
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| 14:59.27 | MinceR | one is selection, the other is clipboard |
| 14:59.30 | ToreadorVampire | Oh hey MinceR - didn't know you hid in here :) |
| 14:59.32 | MinceR | :) |
| 14:59.35 | MinceR | isn't hiding |
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| 14:59.46 | MinceR | i've heard of others but afaik nothing uses them |
| 14:59.50 | ToreadorVampire | I count any channel with a userlist >300 as "hiding" :) |
| 14:59.54 | MinceR | anyway, klipper can synchronize selection with clipboard |
| 15:00.40 | ToreadorVampire | Hmm, well - I got angry with klipper and switched it off because I wanted to eliminate it as a possible cause of the problem |
| 15:00.52 | ToreadorVampire | Besides, I don't think klipper has any functionality that I want |
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| 15:01.31 | MinceR | afaik selecting and pasting with the mouse uses selection and ctrl+c/ctrl+x/ctrl+v uses clipboard |
| 15:01.43 | kdepepo | pARAd0X85, regarding your touchscreen UI issues, see also http://kdepepo.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/global-strut-feature/ |
| 15:01.48 | MinceR | i'm not sure about ctrl+insert/shift+delete/shift+insert |
| 15:02.08 | ToreadorVampire | Mmm, well - what I am getting then is that "selection" is interfering with "clipboard" |
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| 15:03.31 | pARAd0X85 | kdepepo, thank you for remembering me ! |
| 15:03.50 | MinceR | ToreadorVampire: this might help: http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html |
| 15:04.16 | MinceR | apparently i've got the terminology wrong |
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| 15:04.23 | mbroeker | I am using KDE-4.2.2's kontact suit in connection with eGroupware over xmlrpc. I can setup the xmlrpc resource and millisecond later, all my contacts are in the adressbook. fine. But if i logout and relogin, kde4 overwrites my kontacts resource settings, sets the default to a vcard resource and "forgets" the other resources. My current workaround is to "restore" the setup with a tarball [ http://rafb.net/p/en6i4B77.html ] but how can i fix it perm |
| 15:04.23 | mbroeker | anently? |
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| 15:08.14 | ToreadorVampire | MinceR> Right, so assuming that the page you posted is correct: Intermittently my "Clipboard Selection" is getting overwritten by the "Primary Selection" and I don't understand why. I am only using Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V to copy/paste things, although I did highlight it first (so I accept that as an aside it would have been put in the "Primary Selection") |
| 15:08.44 | MinceR | if klipper was running, it could be doing that, but since it isn't running, i don't know why |
| 15:08.53 | MinceR | perhaps some other clipboard maanger is doing it? |
| 15:09.09 | ToreadorVampire | Well, afaik I don't have another clipboard manager running ... |
| 15:09.21 | MinceR | or perhaps the toolkit of the app you're selecting in automatically puts stuff into the clipboard selection too? |
| 15:09.47 | ToreadorVampire | Nah - I went and interrogated the guys that make [the apps affected] and they said no |
| 15:09.58 | ToreadorVampire | Although I did notice it has been mostly affecting GTK-based apps |
| 15:10.15 | ToreadorVampire | But then it's only intermittently ... like - I just tried to reproduce it and couldn't |
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| 15:14.38 | ToreadorVampire | Aha |
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| 15:15.21 | ToreadorVampire | MinceR> I think you may have helped by improving my understanding of the x selection buffers ... Have started klipper up again and saw an "ignore selection" option which I previously didn't understand |
| 15:15.35 | MinceR | :) |
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| 15:16.26 | ToreadorVampire | So, that MIGHT be another KDE4/Jaunty problem out of the way :) |
| 15:16.48 | ToreadorVampire | If that solves it then it was "all for a stray default setting" :( |
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| 15:26.09 | blip- | can someone tell me who kjournald is ? He keeps running all the time and sapping my cpu |
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| 15:28.31 | thiago | blip-: that "k" does not stand for KDE |
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| 15:28.47 | thiago | blip-: that's "k" as in "kernel" |
| 15:28.54 | blip- | ah ok. thanks thiago |
| 15:29.07 | mbroeker | blip-, http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2004/10/msg00170.html |
| 15:29.28 | blip- | damn, that little rascal |
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| 15:30.16 | comraderaikov | So what's K for? |
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| 15:30.21 | comraderaikov | Konquer? |
| 15:30.59 | mbroeker | Kool Desktop Environment and later just K as in Agent K... |
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| 15:31.23 | comraderaikov | :) |
| 15:31.40 | thiago | KDE is just KDE |
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| 15:31.42 | thiago | no expansion anymore |
| 15:32.01 | comraderaikov | Im at least happy |
| 15:32.12 | comraderaikov | I finally got KDE 4.2 to load |
| 15:32.22 | mbroeker | i was more happy with kde-3.5 |
| 15:32.23 | comraderaikov | Good to be back in it |
| 15:32.31 | comraderaikov | I hate Gnome |
| 15:32.59 | comraderaikov | KDE just looks more familiar |
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| 15:33.01 | mbroeker | kde-4.2 introduced akonadi and mysql on my system and my addressbook is still not properly working over xmlrpc. that's not good... |
| 15:33.36 | comraderaikov | Try to reinstall it. |
| 15:33.48 | comraderaikov | Worked for me after reinstall |
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| 15:34.05 | mbroeker | what kind of reinstall? |
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| 15:34.19 | comraderaikov | THe RPM or soucre |
| 15:34.29 | comraderaikov | source* |
| 15:34.43 | comraderaikov | Like reinstalling the offending program |
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| 15:38.46 | a_b | I'm having trouble compiling KDE on windows (with emerge) |
| 15:38.46 | a_b | http://rafb.net/p/Z4jlXk16.html |
| 15:39.01 | pinotree | a_b: #kde-windows |
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| 15:43.33 | a_b | okay, thanks |
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| 15:44.06 | mamr | hi, where is the trash of kde located on the filesystem? |
| 15:44.11 | comraderaikov | KDE's on Windows? |
| 15:44.15 | mamr | can't find anything within *.kde |
| 15:44.20 | mamr | I mean .kde/ |
| 15:44.33 | mamr | nno |
| 15:44.35 | mamr | no |
| 15:44.37 | mamr | Linux |
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| 15:44.55 | pinotree | ~/.local/share/Trash |
| 15:44.55 | apt | i guess /.local/share/trash is still were things are supposed to be. |
| 15:45.00 | mamr | thanks |
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| 15:56.00 | Gingerbread-Man | hey guys when compileing a kernel optimize for size ... does that adversly affect the kernel speed in the end or not? |
| 15:57.02 | cghislai | Gingerbread-Man: off-topic, but yeah, some size0optimisation flags reduce performance |
| 15:57.19 | Gingerbread-Man | ok then :-) no size optimization |
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| 15:58.36 | daniel1337 | is bluetooth working? mine is not |
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| 16:00.19 | Mamarok | daniel1337: that depends, works here in KDE 4.3, but only one way, the obex stuff seems not to want to accept stuff form the phone |
| 16:01.52 | Half-Left | Gingerbread-Man: I think you should more worry about latency then size optimizations :p |
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| 16:04.08 | daniel1337 | kbluetooth is finding my mouse but when i click on setup it tells me "Failed to create the input device for Bluetooth Laser Mouse" |
| 16:04.21 | Half-Left | Everything you can as modules, enable preempt desktop, 1000hz :) |
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| 16:05.40 | daniel1337 | i searched about it in google but got not further |
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| 16:06.48 | daniel1337 | Mamarok: kbluetooth is finding my mouse but when i click on setup it tells me "Failed to create the input device for Bluetooth Laser Mouse" |
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| 16:13.49 | liquidat | bafman: Yes, use kleopatra to import them. |
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| 16:14.10 | matty_ | I want to load the Profile "Data" on every Konqueror Startup, how can i do that? Konqueror3 |
| 16:14.54 | bafman | liquidat: I have imported it in, but still kmail does not use it when negotiating SSL layer with the server |
| 16:15.19 | bafman | liquidat: it's in "My Certificates" |
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| 16:15.45 | bafman | liquidat: and kmail does not even ask which clinet cert is should use |
| 16:15.58 | bafman | (version 4.2.3) |
| 16:16.05 | bafman | of kde |
| 16:17.10 | liquidat | bafman: x509 as I know has nothing to do with the server communication.... |
| 16:17.18 | liquidat | Maybe we are talking about different things here. |
| 16:18.25 | liquidat | I had the mail signing process in mind. |
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| 16:18.49 | liquidat | You talk about the contact with the server. Anyway, try to access such a x509 secured server with Konqueror, and see, what happens. |
| 16:18.53 | bafman | liquidat: ok the point is, I am tunneling smtp and imap protocol over SSL layer, thus I have created self-signed ca and 2 certs. One I have dropped on stunnel on server and the other is used when a client is connecting |
| 16:18.55 | liquidat | They both use the same infrastructure. |
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| 16:19.03 | Mamarok | daniel1337: and you have all necessary packages isntalled? |
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| 16:19.42 | muep | Hello |
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| 16:20.05 | muep | Can Konsole be made to always start in 80x24 character size, as most terminal emulators do? |
| 16:20.21 | liquidat | bafman: Ok, can't help you there unfortunately, I just know the stuff regarding the mails.. |
| 16:20.55 | bafman | liquidat: konqueror has a configuration form for client's certificate, but this is missing in kmail |
| 16:20.58 | Mamarok | muep: check the settings -> edit profilecurrent |
| 16:21.02 | bafman | liquidat: anyway, thanx |
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| 16:21.07 | Mamarok | edit current profile even |
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| 16:21.50 | muep | Mamarok: can't find anything related there |
| 16:22.38 | muep | Konsole 2.2.3 on KDE 4.2.3, if it matters |
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| 16:25.29 | Mamarok | muep: change your default font size |
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| 16:25.51 | muep | Mamarok: why? |
| 16:26.20 | muep | It just changes the font size, not the size of the terminal |
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| 16:27.01 | muep | I want the terminal size to always default to 80x24 characters |
| 16:27.07 | Mamarok | muep: then I don't know, sry |
| 16:27.38 | muep | Now it picks the size of the last closed terminal, which can be anything, because I use differently sized terminals in different places |
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| 16:30.52 | xray7224 | hey my kde 4 menu isnt updating when i install new programs how can i get it to refresh |
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| 16:31.58 | huanglijun3 | is back. |
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| 16:32.18 | Mamarok | xray7224: there's an app for that: kappfinder |
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| 16:34.28 | xray7224 | thanks |
| 16:35.13 | Mamarok | xray7224: yaw :) |
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| 16:38.30 | daniel1337 | Mamarok: apt-get did install all necessary packages :) |
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| 16:40.41 | xray7224 | kappfinder: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
| 16:41.05 | xray7224 | fixed it |
| 16:41.12 | Mamarok | xray7224: start it with Alt+F2 |
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| 16:43.58 | carly | hi poeple I'm trying to get rid of the alternating colours on konq's right side |
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| 16:44.50 | carly | however I haven't been able to find the way to do it. I also want to add applets to the top (OS X style) kicker, but its not letting me either |
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| 16:51.18 | xray7224 | hey im wondering what the latest konversation was and what the easiest way to get it was from arch |
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| 16:51.55 | carly | use the internal software management app |
| 16:52.16 | Sho_ | xray7224: The latest stable release is Konversation 1.1; the latest release overall 1.2-alpha1 |
| 16:52.26 | xray7224 | mmmm it gives me the kde 3 konversation |
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| 16:53.02 | xray7224 | thanks Sho_ ill try and get 1.2-alpha1 installed |
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| 16:55.01 | Sho_ | xray7224: yup have fun |
| 16:55.10 | Sho_ | xray7224: alpha2 might be released this week |
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| 16:57.19 | xray7224 | cool :) |
| 16:57.31 | xray7224 | well according to the arch its in the testing repo's |
| 16:57.44 | xray7224 | which kinda makes sens to be hoenst |
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| 16:58.07 | poppler_ | is there anyone who knows about plasma-workspace package in kdebase? it seems like it's not properly working for ruby bindings. it does not define module 'plasma-applet' |
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| 17:00.44 | Sho_ | poppler_: best ask in #plasma |
| 17:01.29 | poppler_ | Sho_: tried already, they said it was a problem of the package and redirected to gentoo-kde somehow, I asked here too to see if anyone knew anything about it |
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| 17:02.01 | Sho_ | poppler_: well ... this isn't #gentoo-kde |
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| 17:17.27 | timothy_jones | hi guys is possible to crop outputted image in kde so some parts are not visible. like put mask on top of the screen? (gentoo+KDE4.2.3) |
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| 17:18.10 | thiago_home | no |
| 17:19.00 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, is answer to me? |
| 17:19.20 | thiago_home | yes |
| 17:20.34 | timothy_jones | ok ok, but kde has ability just no plugin like this correct? maybe you know where good tutorial on kde compositing? |
| 17:21.16 | thiago_home | no, I don't think so |
| 17:21.49 | zc00gii | how do I refresh/sync the programs in plasma? |
| 17:22.07 | thiago_home | zc00gii: there's no need for that |
| 17:22.26 | zc00gii | just installed kvirc and it hasn't shown up |
| 17:22.36 | thiago_home | ah, the menu list |
| 17:22.41 | thiago_home | well, there should be no need fo rit |
| 17:22.50 | thiago_home | but, in case it doesn't update, run kbuildsycoca4 |
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| 17:24.17 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, maybe I create topmost window for full screen and has cut out in it? in cut out can see windows below? |
| 17:24.57 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: sorry, I couldn't understand that sentence |
| 17:25.17 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, ah ok let me explain: |
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| 17:27.45 | timothy_jones | I have projector and show on the screen -- not monitor. screen is round. not like usually square (is very unsuall I know). I want to show google earth on screen, but when zoom in, it starts over spill. I need to somehow crop circle and everything outside is black (sorry for long sentence) |
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| 17:28.31 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: I have no idea how to do that and there's nothing in KDE to help you do it either. |
| 17:28.32 | izua | i made a top center panel that has a few shortcuts to apps i use often. unfortunately, it behaves very odd, when i try to add a new icon it adds some blank spaces in between. is there any way i can auto-arrange the icons in a panel? i'm running kde 3.5.10 under debian 5 |
| 17:28.51 | Traveler | hi guys......i've just lost all the kde configs because of the disk "full"... |
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| 17:29.38 | Taytay | hi , I m looking for documentation to store/reas password in kwallet from an external software ( python software) |
| 17:30.21 | thiago_home | Taytay: see KWallet's D-Bus interface |
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| 17:31.17 | Taytay | thiago: I tought I need to use DBus, but I don t know which method and how kwallet works |
| 17:31.32 | thiago_home | Taytay: again, take a look at the available methods |
| 17:31.46 | Taytay | thiago_home: ok ! |
| 17:31.48 | thiago_home | Taytay: you can see what they do by reading the source code of kwallet |
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| 17:32.49 | Taytay | thiago_home: :D oki ! thanks |
| 17:33.53 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, I have an idea. I don't give up. Please tell me if is good: |
| 17:34.10 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: sure |
| 17:34.51 | timothy_jones | is possible to have skins on windows correct? like window which is not square but has rounded corners |
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| 17:35.42 | timothy_jones | for example winamp (not good example because for windows but probably same for kde) |
| 17:36.14 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: yes, it's possible |
| 17:36.55 | timothy_jones | can maybe make a window with hole in the middle like that or only round corners possible? |
| 17:37.56 | thiago_home | yes |
| 17:37.59 | thiago_home | that should be possible |
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| 17:38.14 | thiago_home | with desktop effects on, that is |
| 17:38.43 | timothy_jones | if possible hole in the middle, I make goodle earth window full screen and on top place black window with round hole in it and only can see google earth through the hole and the rest is black! :) |
| 17:38.43 | izua | can you add custom apps (not in the menu) to the quicklauncher? |
| 17:38.46 | izua | seems like adding icons to a panel is a bad idea |
| 17:38.54 | thiago_home | izua: you can |
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| 17:39.19 | izua | how? it won't let me to drag'n'drop |
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| 17:39.40 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, can work? ^ |
| 17:39.46 | izua | when i click on add, it shows me the kde menu :/ |
| 17:39.52 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: yes, I think so. |
| 17:40.03 | izua | or if that's not possible, i want to add icons to a panel, and then have the panel auto-arrange the icons |
| 17:40.26 | thiago_home | izua: I don't remember KDE 3 anymore. I thought dragging was possible. |
| 17:40.33 | thiago_home | you can always add to the menu, add there, then remove from the menu |
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| 17:41.14 | timothy_jones | izua, I drag icons to panel all the time. is possible |
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| 17:41.56 | timothy_jones | izua, sometimes make shortcut on desktop and drag to panel (not in menu) |
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| 17:43.08 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, thank you for your patience. ending question: where can find tutorial or documentation for skins for kde windows? I will google too but maybe you know already |
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| 17:46.13 | thiago_home | timothy_jones: I don't think anywhere. What you're asking for is to write an application. |
| 17:47.44 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, that's correct. I write application myself but I never program for kde before. ok I search kde api hopefully find something before give up :) |
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| 17:48.30 | thiago_home | any X11 application with an ARGB window should be fine |
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| 17:49.56 | timothy_jones | thiago_home, that's a good start direction. I start looking now :) thank you my friend |
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| 17:58.50 | comawhite | when I switch an applications language, i don't see an effect of it. Anyone else getting this issue? |
| 17:59.19 | pinotree | a new language is applied to newly started applications only |
| 18:00.39 | comawhite | yeah I restarted the application afterwards |
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| 18:02.14 | vlad | ÐÑÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
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| 18:02.30 | comawhite | english only please |
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| 18:02.54 | comawhite | lol |
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| 18:10.55 | N9NU | can someone recommend a simple programming language to use via the console/CLI for a simple script to select 1 of 5 options via a menu |
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| 18:11.38 | thiago_home | N9NU: shell script + kdialog, or Python |
| 18:11.49 | N9NU | ok...that sounds good |
| 18:12.35 | N9NU | great...thats exactly what I am looking for |
| 18:12.37 | N9NU | tnx |
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| 18:20.16 | tdn | When I use my laptop with kubuntu 9.04 running on battery, I get a notice box saying something along the lines of: "Composite was too slow, so it is disabled..." I cannot read it all, because it disappears too quickly. Why is this? How do I enable composite again? How do I prevent it from being disabled like this? |
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| 18:20.59 | jtietema | tdn: press alt + shift + f12 to enable compositing again |
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| 18:21.20 | tdn | jtietema, thanks. |
| 18:21.51 | jtietema | np :-) |
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| 18:39.02 | EspadaV8 | hey, not sure if someone has already reported this, but the SSL cert on https://bugs.kde.org/ has expired |
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| 18:40.14 | Sho_ | EspadaV8: yes it's well-known |
| 18:40.16 | thiago_home | EspadaV8: yes, about 20 people alrady have |
| 18:40.24 | EspadaV8 | lol, ok :) |
| 18:40.36 | EspadaV8 | better to make sure i guess |
| 18:40.39 | Sho_ | EspadaV8: But I appreciate your notion that KDE is so bug-free you might be the first one to visit the bug tracker today |
| 18:40.40 | Sho_ | ;) |
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| 18:41.08 | EspadaV8 | Sho_: you mean KDE isn't bug free? |
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| 18:41.09 | EspadaV8 | ;-) |
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| 18:41.42 | poppler | boy kde4 games are too good! I figure that must be a major slowdown for kde devs |
| 18:42.17 | Sho_ | poppler: Nah, KDE development is the best MMORPG there is. Great quests, etc. |
| 18:42.34 | Sho_ | FOSS > World of Warcraft |
| 18:42.35 | Sho_ | :) |
| 18:42.57 | drantin | the bounties need some work though ;) |
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| 18:44.18 | Sho_ | drantin: And the graphics could be better, the player characters have too pale textures |
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| 18:44.19 | Sho_ | ;) |
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| 18:45.45 | pARAd0X85 | :) |
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| 18:49.02 | poppler | Sho_: lol |
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| 18:52.57 | Half-Left | poppler: Yes, we like to try and surpass the main desktop for quality gaming :) |
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| 18:58.25 | Sho_ | Half-Left: I say kdegames needs a basic 3d shooter type game :) (see http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/12/02/widgets-enter-the-third-dimension-wolfenqt/) |
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| 18:59.18 | Half-Left | Sho_: I can't do 3d :p |
| 18:59.59 | Oceanwatcher | I am looking for someone that can tell me a little bit about the addressbook in KDE. More specifically - removing duplicates. |
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| 19:00.29 | Sho_ | Half-Left: try wolfenqt some time though, it's really fast with 4.5 :-) |
| 19:00.50 | Half-Left | yer |
| 19:00.57 | thiago_home | it's also very silly |
| 19:01.05 | thiago_home | it repaints 30 frames per second, even if it has nothing to repaint |
| 19:01.31 | Sho_ | thiago_home: yeah, and the timing code is crap for proper animations etc. as it's very cpu speed dependent |
| 19:01.43 | Sho_ | thiago_home: but it's just a proof of concept, it could be done much better of course :) |
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| 19:07.16 | mustu | I want to control how my mounted partitions appear in "places" panel in Dolphin. How? |
| 19:07.48 | mustu | They get with Stupid Volume (ntfs) names .. difficult to identify |
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| 19:10.06 | Simkin | anyone know why the new laucnher (kde 4.2 vs 3.5.10) seems to skip periods.. some times? |
| 19:10.23 | Simkin | ie, if i press alt-f2, www.vgchartz.com it missses the second period. |
| 19:10.26 | Simkin | and then won't eecute |
| 19:10.34 | Simkin | it does the same if i use 192.168.1.100 for example |
| 19:10.48 | Simkin | but then it misses the first one |
| 19:10.56 | Simkin | it's a real piss off as i have to re-type things over and over |
| 19:11.08 | thiago_home | Simkin: upgrade to Qt 4.5.1 and KDE 4.3 betas. I think the problems are solved there. |
| 19:11.38 | Simkin | hrm |
| 19:11.51 | Simkin | i wonder if qt 4.5.1 is in the portage tree yet |
| 19:11.53 | Simkin | kde 4.3 is |
| 19:11.55 | Simkin | i just upgraded to that. |
| 19:12.11 | ctibor_ | qt 4.5.1 is |
| 19:12.26 | Simkin | oh yah, i see it here. marked as unstable |
| 19:12.28 | EspadaV8 | kde 4.3 in is portage? |
| 19:12.37 | kdepepo | by the time 4.3 is out, qt 4.5.2 will probably out. |
| 19:12.44 | thiago_home | yes |
| 19:12.45 | Simkin | so just emege x11-libs/qt-4.5.1 and re-emerge kde 4.2.3 and i'll be ok thiago? |
| 19:12.55 | thiago_home | Simkin: no |
| 19:12.58 | Simkin | oh, 4.3 or 4.2.3 ? |
| 19:12.59 | thiago_home | Simkin: but that's the easiest |
| 19:13.01 | thiago_home | Simkin: I said 4.3 |
| 19:13.16 | Simkin | oh |
| 19:13.19 | thiago_home | Simkin: I think the important fix is in Qt, but I'm not 100% sure it's enough |
| 19:13.23 | Simkin | i'd need to add kde-testing won't i |
| 19:13.25 | thiago_home | I know 4.3 is good because that's what I'm using |
| 19:13.34 | Simkin | eh |
| 19:13.38 | Simkin | i'll live with it a bit longer i suppose |
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| 19:15.17 | thiago_home | get Qt 4.5.1 at least |
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| 19:29.34 | OdyX | Hi. The SSL certificate for bugs.kde.org has expired today. I suppose that the problem is known⦠|
| 19:30.17 | OdyX | I only seldomly use the KDE bts so I noticed... |
| 19:30.36 | thiago_home | it expired today |
| 19:30.38 | thiago_home | it's known |
| 19:30.52 | OdyX | OK. Thanks then ;) |
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| 19:31.17 | Half-Left | Somebody forgot to put money in the meter :p |
| 19:32.46 | MercurialAlchemi | anyone tried rekonq? |
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| 19:33.20 | Half-Left | Yep |
| 19:34.20 | MercurialAlchemi | Is there a "show location bar" option? |
| 19:34.31 | MercurialAlchemi | Not that it could be useful or anything... |
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| 19:36.12 | Half-Left | Ctrl, M? |
| 19:36.59 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: nah, just hides or shows the menu |
| 19:37.37 | mustu | what's the shorcut to switch desktop? |
| 19:37.40 | Half-Left | What do you mean by the feature? |
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| 19:39.05 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: I don't have a location bar when I compile rekonq |
| 19:39.21 | Half-Left | hopes they put smooth scrolling in soon |
| 19:39.52 | Half-Left | MercurialAlchemi: Right click the bar and add it |
| 19:41.08 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: don't have that option |
| 19:41.16 | MercurialAlchemi | maybe it's a little fucked up with Qt 4.5 |
| 19:41.23 | MercurialAlchemi | or there is a compilation option |
| 19:41.34 | Half-Left | Well no, I have qt4.5 |
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| 19:42.07 | Half-Left | You should be able to configure the toolbars like Dolphin or Konqueror |
| 19:42.11 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: you got 0.1.0? |
| 19:42.39 | MercurialAlchemi | I get the window, but both sides are empty (no icons to add or remove) |
| 19:42.52 | huanglijun3 | is back. |
| 19:42.59 | MercurialAlchemi | looking at the screenshots, I don't even have the history arrows |
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| 19:43.19 | Half-Left | Yep |
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| 19:43.34 | Half-Left | I use svn though |
| 19:44.06 | MercurialAlchemi | hmm |
| 19:44.11 | MercurialAlchemi | maybe I should try |
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| 19:44.38 | MercurialAlchemi | I get the minimalistic vibe, but no location bar, that's kind of too much |
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| 19:45.18 | Half-Left | hehe, just a bit |
| 19:46.53 | MercurialAlchemi | the repo is on gitorious? |
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| 19:47.54 | mustu | m trying to set the shortcut for Pager but it's not working. |
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| 19:52.10 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: cloned the git repo from gitorious and compiled it, same problem... you got kdelibs from SVN |
| 19:52.14 | MercurialAlchemi | ? |
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| 19:52.51 | Half-Left | MercurialAlchemi: I'm using trunk yes |
| 19:53.00 | Half-Left | for both |
| 19:53.09 | MercurialAlchemi | might be that, I have 4.2.2 from Debian |
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| 19:55.35 | MercurialAlchemi | ah well, 4.3 can't too far away now... and with luck it will solve the problems with the Oxygen style, too, the favicon of kde.org is all messed up |
| 19:55.50 | MercurialAlchemi | looks pretty slick apart from that |
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| 19:56.48 | Half-Left | Yep |
| 19:57.02 | MercurialAlchemi | I'll stick to Arora in the meantime |
| 19:57.15 | Half-Left | Some of the new Oxygen stuff makes it look even slicker |
| 19:57.40 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: cool :) |
| 19:57.45 | MercurialAlchemi | go webkit |
| 19:57.57 | Half-Left | Lovely new tabs |
| 19:58.12 | thiago_home | liked the old ones |
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| 19:58.26 | thiago_home | the new ones are too flashy |
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| 20:04.58 | Half-Left | thiago_home: I like the gaps better between them, more visible |
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| 20:06.18 | liz | Hi, how can I disable Spellchecking in KMail globally? |
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| 20:13.21 | pinotree | huanglijun3: please disable public away messages, thanks |
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| 20:15.41 | Bearcat | hey folks, i'm running kde 4.2.3 on sourcemage. No matter what i do i can not turn off my screen saver |
| 20:15.45 | Bearcat | i'd love a hand |
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| 20:17.47 | Bearcat | i have verified that it is "false" in the confg file, turned off in the interface and even gotten rid of all traces of xscreensaver. |
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| 20:19.40 | FreakGuard | ASSERT failure in fillAgentInstance: "Requests non-existing agent type", file /home/kdemod/kdemod/core/kdepimlibs/src/kdepimlibs-4.2.3/akonadi/agentmanager.cpp, line 236 |
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| 20:20.45 | litb | hi all |
| 20:20.55 | litb | is there a gui showing all the devices and partitions for KDE? |
| 20:21.08 | litb | back then, we had media:/ . but i wonder what it is now? |
| 20:22.27 | liz | Is there a management program for Sonnet (KDE4)? |
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| 20:24.16 | thiago_home | litb: Dolphin shows them in the sidebar |
| 20:24.22 | thiago_home | liz: no, I don't think so |
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| 20:25.03 | pagesailor | anyone has some info on nepomuk, how to use it, etc. for example: how can i delete tags? |
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| 20:26.07 | cb400f | Bearcat: disabing it works fine for me in systemsettings -> desktop > screensaver.. you may need to also check the powerdevil settings (systemsettings -> advanced -> power management) |
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| 20:51.12 | caotic | I have just setted up a script adn aliased it to {killall -9 $1; kdeinit4_wrapper $1;} was there a mor proper tool to reset kde processes |
| 20:53.21 | thiago_home | kquitapp |
| 20:54.45 | caotic | binary huh |
| 20:54.58 | thiago_home | what? |
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| 20:56.15 | caotic | thiago_home: its compiled tool I mean |
| 20:56.28 | thiago_home | yes |
| 20:56.31 | caotic | --help is enought |
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| 20:58.49 | MercurialAlchemi | hmm |
| 20:59.23 | MercurialAlchemi | arora is a bit odd at times |
| 20:59.44 | MercurialAlchemi | doesn't open a new window when you click on its icon if it's already open |
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| 21:03.55 | chickpea | running kde4.2, how do you define a path for removable media, like usb HDDs. Used to be in a right-click menu in 3.5.10, but now I can't seem to find it |
| 21:05.13 | thiago_home | explain what you want to do |
| 21:05.42 | chickpea | want to set a default mountpoint for a partition on a usb harddrive, like /media/BackupHD |
| 21:05.49 | thiago_home | ok |
| 21:05.57 | thiago_home | it's in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ |
| 21:06.30 | chickpea | ahh, thanks |
| 21:06.39 | chickpea | so this isn't handled anymore in kde? |
| 21:07.00 | thiago_home | no |
| 21:07.03 | thiago_home | it's handled by HAL |
| 21:07.09 | chickpea | used to be able to do define one by rightclicking on the partition in konqueror |
| 21:07.16 | thiago_home | I know |
| 21:07.18 | chickpea | ah, ok thanks. |
| 21:07.24 | maazu | G... that's handy |
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| 21:08.08 | chickpea | will something like this be implemented in an upcoming release? |
| 21:08.17 | thiago_home | no plans |
| 21:08.23 | thiago_home | it's all HAL |
| 21:08.28 | chickpea | BTW, i LOVE kde4 |
| 21:08.45 | chickpea | FWIW, I think its a HUGE impreovement over KDE3 |
| 21:08.48 | thiago_home | thanks |
| 21:08.53 | chickpea | improvement^ |
| 21:08.58 | thiago_home | opinions are quite divided |
| 21:09.29 | chickpea | just thought I would add my $.02 as I know kde dev team got creamed in blogs for the kde4 release, etc |
| 21:10.45 | MercurialAlchemi | still does |
| 21:11.50 | chickpea | yeah, I think that a lot of it is way too critical |
| 21:12.19 | chickpea | kde4 is IMO the best DE right now |
| 21:12.36 | maazu | chickpea: do you write apps with kde4? |
| 21:12.58 | chickpea | no, im a lawyer |
| 21:13.06 | maazu | oops |
| 21:14.24 | MercurialAlchemi | I think a big problem has been miscommunication, with distros rolling out KDE4.0 (thinking, well, it's 4.0, it's ready for the masses), while it was... not |
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| 21:15.15 | maazu | MercurialAlchemi: from a developer's perspective, kde4 have changes made to classes ie. QString |
| 21:15.18 | chickpea | MercurialAlchemi, yup I agree |
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| 21:15.36 | MercurialAlchemi | maazu: I'm not sure I get your point? |
| 21:15.37 | maazu | MercurialAlchemi: the nuts and bolts have changed |
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| 21:15.42 | shodan45 | how hard would it be to add custom buttons/widgets to every window, preferably with python? |
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| 21:16.00 | maazu | MercurialAlchemi: ahem! the nuts and bolts are still changing |
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| 21:16.37 | MercurialAlchemi | maazu: you could say that, yes - while I am not developing KDE4 apps, I'm fully aware that it was a case of "break a lot of fundamentals and build for the future" |
| 21:16.45 | MercurialAlchemi | though technically QString is Qt and not KDE |
| 21:17.15 | maazu | MercurialAlchemi: yeah, you have classes built on top of Qt and i am not sure when things are settled |
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| 21:19.07 | maazu | ciao! G'bye |
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| 21:19.41 | MercurialAlchemi | But yeah, KDE rocks pretty much |
| 21:19.53 | MercurialAlchemi | as long as you don't print anything |
| 21:20.32 | chickpea | thiago_home, can't seem to find which policy in hal controls the mountpoints of USB devicesw |
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| 21:24.10 | thiago_home | chickpea: let me see if I can help you |
| 21:24.28 | chickpea | thiago_home, thanks, I know it's kinda OT, sorry |
| 21:24.34 | thiago_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.34 | thiago_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.37 | thiago_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.47 | thiago_home | change the UUID to match your volume. See the output of lshal to find that out |
| 21:24.52 | chickpea | sweet, |
| 21:25.05 | thiago_home | (you need the rest of the file, but I think there are examples) |
| 21:25.09 | chickpea | you are a giant among liliputians :D |
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| 21:27.40 | chickpea | thiago_home, which policy file does that go in, do you know? |
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| 21:27.55 | thiago_home | I have mine in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-usb-disk.fdi |
| 21:28.00 | chickpea | thanks |
| 21:28.20 | thiago_home | the thing is that, to take effect, HAL needs to be restarted |
| 21:28.24 | thiago_home | and HAL shouldn't be restarted |
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| 21:29.28 | chickpea | thiago_home, why not? |
| 21:29.46 | chickpea | I have often /etc/hald restart |
| 21:29.52 | chickpea | and nothing bad happened |
| 21:30.13 | thiago_home | ok... |
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| 21:34.48 | Frogbarf | I noticed that when logging into kde, for a few seconds something like a collage of previous windows appears before the splashscreen. How to I stop this from appearing? |
| 21:35.01 | thiago_home | nvidia? |
| 21:35.39 | Frogbarf | are you asking me thiago_home? |
| 21:35.59 | thiago_home | yes |
| 21:36.03 | thiago_home | is that an nvidia card? |
| 21:36.03 | TheYeti | Are you using the nvidia drivers? |
| 21:36.04 | Frogbarf | yes, I am using nvidia |
| 21:36.12 | Frogbarf | and the drivers |
| 21:36.12 | thiago_home | which version? |
| 21:36.33 | Frogbarf | NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.51-pkg2.run |
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| 21:36.41 | thiago_home | hmm... 180.51 |
| 21:36.43 | thiago_home | shouldn't happen |
| 21:36.53 | thiago_home | I haven't seen that problem since 177.80 |
| 21:37.00 | TheYeti | Mine does it to |
| 21:37.07 | TheYeti | I just never paid attention to it |
| 21:37.32 | Frogbarf | It's a bit of a security issue |
| 21:37.36 | thiago_home | ever since I upgraded to the 180.x series, the problem was gone |
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| 21:38.28 | thiago_home | well, it's the driver's fault |
| 21:38.28 | TheYeti | where do you check to see which driver you have? |
| 21:38.33 | thiago_home | we can't do anything about it |
| 21:38.34 | TheYeti | is having a brain fart atm |
| 21:39.09 | TheYeti | nvm found it. |
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| 21:39.29 | TheYeti | and yea I'm using 180.51 too. Has done it every since I installed linux on this machine. |
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| 21:40.52 | thiago_home | I'm using 180.51 too |
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| 21:50.15 | Frogbarf | hmmm, it's due to desktop effects |
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| 21:50.57 | shadeslayer | can i ask a question on kde 4.3?? |
| 21:51.34 | thiago_home | sure |
| 21:51.40 | shadeslayer | i get a segmentation fault during loading kbuildsycoca4 |
| 21:51.43 | thiago_home | Frogbarf: well, no. It's due to a bug in the drivrs. |
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| 21:51.51 | thiago_home | Frogbarf: desktop effects just exposes the bug |
| 21:52.03 | thiago_home | shadeslayer: do you have a backtrace? |
| 21:52.19 | shadeslayer | thiago_home: its of no use according to the bug manager |
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| 21:52.48 | thiago_home | we need a debug build of KDE then |
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| 21:53.21 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: check the page the crashHandlerApp tells you to get a better backtrace |
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| 21:53.40 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: it hangs up when i click anything :P |
| 21:54.01 | Dario_Andres | bah.. what distribution do you have? |
| 21:54.13 | shadeslayer | Kubuntu 9.04 |
| 21:54.20 | Dario_Andres | install the "kdelibs5-dbg" package |
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| 21:54.57 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: desaparecido had something to say |
| 21:55.11 | Dario_Andres | ? |
| 21:55.14 | Dario_Andres | about ? |
| 21:55.35 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: sorry for my language but wtf 152 MB of packages?? |
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| 21:55.45 | desaparecido | the problem of segmentation fault in KDE 4.3 |
| 21:55.53 | shadeslayer | i have a 128kbps connecction |
| 21:55.57 | Dario_Andres | ok |
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| 21:56.08 | Dario_Andres | Ubuntu have a different bug reporting system |
| 21:56.08 | arkascha | I have a strange effect since switching from kde-4.2.x to 4.3-beta: when shading a window (scroll towards title bar) the shading is performed when I look at the window decoration, but the windows content is still shown, without frame. It apepars to be a bug in compiz or the nvidia driver, I have no idea. Any ideas anyone ? |
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| 21:56.31 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: try to use the Ubuntu bug reporting system, they will generate a debug-symbols enabled backtrace for you |
| 21:56.36 | pinotree | arkascha: known bug, they're working on it |
| 21:56.38 | Dario_Andres | without needing to install that bunch of packages |
| 21:56.38 | desaparecido | with gwenview was solved the last weekend after apt-upgrade but with amarok or even with kontact is still now |
| 21:56.53 | arkascha | pinotree: ah, thanks ! those guys rock ! |
| 21:56.59 | Dario_Andres | desaparecido: do you have a backtrace / bug report ? |
| 21:57.11 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: http://paste.ubuntu.com/180620/ |
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| 21:57.47 | Dario_Andres | you both are talking about the same crash? shadeslayer and desaparecido ? |
| 21:58.01 | magyar | hi, I have java installed and it works in Firefox, how can i get it working in Konqueror? |
| 21:58.08 | desaparecido | not just right now because i use my laptop with KDE 3.5 but tomorrow i can repeat the problem |
| 21:58.22 | shadeslayer | segmentation fault during loading kbuildsycoca4 |
| 21:58.25 | Dario_Andres | "KSycocaEntry::offset" it could be an installation issue. |
| 21:58.33 | Dario_Andres | I don't get any duplicates for it in bugs.kde.org |
| 21:58.47 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: i havent filed any either |
| 21:58.55 | desaparecido | in my case with kontact and before with gwenview, until today gwenview is ok |
| 21:59.02 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: it did throw up some errors |
| 21:59.20 | Dario_Andres | so.. you are talking about different crashes... |
| 21:59.22 | shadeslayer | but i ran update again and i think everything was fixed |
| 21:59.55 | Dario_Andres | that means it is not crashing anymore shadeslayer ? |
| 22:00.05 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: no it is.... |
| 22:00.08 | desaparecido | yes, i think so, differents crashes, but with "segmentation fault" message |
| 22:00.12 | shadeslayer | crashing |
| 22:00.23 | Dario_Andres | desaparecido: try to get some backtraces of your issues... |
| 22:00.40 | Dario_Andres | desaparecido: "segmentation fault" is a really common crash signal.... |
| 22:00.42 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: i can login and i see the drive icon loading...then the segmentation fault |
| 22:00.43 | desaparecido | yes, i take that tomorrow |
| 22:00.59 | mschiff | how can I tell my akonadi *not* to trash my pim resources by trying to migrate my resources everytime I start kontact? |
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| 22:01.12 | Dario_Andres | desaparecido: ok, if you are going to file new bug reports at bugs.kde.org remember to file one report per bug.. and do not mix different crashes |
| 22:01.29 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: is there a way to reinstall that package or whatever that is ?? |
| 22:01.51 | Dario_Andres | try reinstalling "kdelibs5-somename" |
| 22:01.59 | Dario_Andres | I don't remember the ubuntu packaging naming scheme |
| 22:02.04 | Dario_Andres | but it should be something like that |
| 22:02.04 | blauzahl | magyar: settings in the toolbar: configure konqueror: java and javascript |
| 22:02.07 | shadeslayer | ok ill search it |
| 22:02.19 | magyar | blauzahl: |
| 22:02.25 | magyar | i did that also |
| 22:02.42 | shadeslayer | kdelibs5-data and kdelibs5-core |
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| 22:03.15 | Dario_Andres | yeah.. reinstall both |
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| 22:03.42 | blauzahl | magyar: is your "path to java executable" correct? |
| 22:04.50 | magyar | blauzahl: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 22:05.07 | blauzahl | but is that correct? |
| 22:05.40 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: also some packages were not installeed earlier..like kde core..had to manually install them |
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| 22:05.47 | magyar | but it doesn't show in the global plugins list, but the path is right and it picks up flash plugin |
| 22:05.53 | shadeslayer | kde-base too |
| 22:05.59 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: then it is an installation issue... |
| 22:06.05 | Dario_Andres | you were installing only parts of kde... |
| 22:06.12 | blauzahl | mine says "java", and if i run "java" on the command line, it tries to start a .jar file |
| 22:06.17 | magyar | blauzahl: sure it is |
| 22:06.18 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: so what do i do?? i already installed those packages |
| 22:06.25 | Dario_Andres | there should be a proper command to install kde like doing "apt-get install kdebase" or something like that |
| 22:06.32 | blauzahl | try what is in that box and type it on the command line and see what you get |
| 22:06.48 | magyar | same here |
| 22:06.53 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: i did that too |
| 22:07.01 | blauzahl | meh |
| 22:07.07 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: did you followed a guide to install KDE ? |
| 22:07.14 | chickpea | thiago_home, the hal policy didn't seem to work, probably something I screwed up |
| 22:07.25 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: no someone gave me a PPA and i installed from there |
| 22:07.33 | blauzahl | could it be that it just isn't working on that one page/app? |
| 22:07.36 | chickpea | I am on #hal to see if I can fix er up, thanks for the help |
| 22:07.45 | magyar | blauzahl: the flash and java plugin for firefox are both comming from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 22:07.45 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: try to ask that someone... |
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| 22:08.10 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: i already did...deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu jaunty main |
| 22:08.27 | shadeslayer | he guided me further to install those missing packages...didnt help |
| 22:08.33 | magyar | blauzahl: don't think so, I am going to the Sun Java test page. In firefox works in Konqueror i get an error of missing java |
| 22:08.52 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: ok can you give me the guide...ill reinstall all over again |
| 22:09.08 | blauzahl | magyar: so what is in the box in the konqueror setup dialog that says "path to java"? |
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| 22:09.28 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: there is no "guide" .. it depends on the packages... how are they built and named... and so on :( |
| 22:09.56 | blauzahl | if there is no "java" at the end, try adding it |
| 22:10.15 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: ah..ok...im thinking of installing neon them |
| 22:10.18 | shadeslayer | *then |
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| 22:10.25 | blauzahl | what is the url of the sun test page, anyway? |
| 22:10.39 | shadeslayer | kde 4.3 looks sweeeet |
| 22:10.47 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: ok :) |
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| 22:11.09 | magyar | blauzahl: I don't see "path to java" in my konqueror |
| 22:11.15 | magyar | i am on 4.2 |
| 22:11.34 | magyar | Version 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2) |
| 22:12.23 | magyar | i see "Java and Java Script" |
| 22:12.24 | blauzahl | if you're in that configuration menu, the "java and javascript" one, second from the bottom is something that in english is "path to java executable, or 'java':" |
| 22:12.38 | magyar | in that menu I have "Enable java globally" |
| 22:12.48 | magyar | but there is no path option anywhere |
| 22:13.07 | blauzahl | you do not have this line second from the bottom? |
| 22:13.18 | blauzahl | just above "additional java arguements"? |
| 22:13.25 | blauzahl | (i dont' know if you are using a translation or not) |
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| 22:14.14 | magyar | oops, i see that, it says "java" |
| 22:15.54 | magyar | blauzahl: it works now, I placed /usr/bin/java |
| 22:15.54 | shadeslayer | Dario_Andres: will neon have the same things as 4.3 if not more? |
| 22:15.54 | magyar | thank for your help blauzahl |
| 22:15.55 | blauzahl | magyar: no problem |
| 22:16.04 | shadeslayer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:16.06 | magyar | it's not perfect but atleast i see a java window with "loading applet" |
| 22:16.17 | Dario_Andres | shadeslayer: if I remember properly neon uses development snapshots.. and I guess your previous packages were 4.3beta.... so.. yes.. neon is going to be more updated |
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| 22:16.34 | blauzahl | magyar: yeah, there are some bugs filed for it in bugzilla, so hopefully you wont' run into too many problems. |
| 22:16.36 | magyar | it never gets to display the java content.... just "loading applet" |
| 22:16.44 | blauzahl | uh-oh. :) |
| 22:17.10 | magyar | not a biggy, the beuaty of open source :) |
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| 22:17.42 | blauzahl | hmm. otoh, maybe if you add an arguement or soemthing it will work. it might be worth it to go look at the bugreports and see if someone posted a workaround. dunno. |
| 22:18.15 | blauzahl | neon was nightly snapshots at one point. |
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| 22:19.31 | blauzahl | or see if someone posted something on the forums. dunno. i don't know the person who is doing the java part of konq. |
| 22:19.57 | shadeslayer | ok ill try to start kde 4.3 now |
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| 22:28.06 | huanglijun3 | is back. |
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| 22:32.54 | zc00gii | I upgraded and all of the icons are gone |
| 22:32.58 | zc00gii | to I need to reboot |
| 22:33.02 | zc00gii | do* |
| 22:33.22 | magyar | blauzahl: roger, will do |
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| 22:34.28 | zc00gii | I upgraded to 4.3b1 and all of the icons are gone :\ |
| 22:34.32 | zc00gii | any help? |
| 22:34.49 | Dario_Andres | is the "kdesupport-oxygen" (or something like that) package installed ? |
| 22:35.55 | Dario_Andres | zc00gii: what distribution are you using ? |
| 22:36.46 | zc00gii | Dario_Andres: do I need to log out |
| 22:36.48 | zc00gii | ? |
| 22:37.02 | zc00gii | I just installed kdemod-unstable/oxygen-icons |
| 22:37.18 | Dario_Andres | yeah, try reloading |
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| 22:37.30 | zc00gii | reloading? |
| 22:37.44 | zc00gii | meh |
| 22:37.48 | xxtjaxx | Dario_Andres, oh fuck hmm seems lke somebody broke the icons |
| 22:37.49 | zc00gii | I'll just log out ;p |
| 22:38.03 | zc00gii | xxtjaxx: has it happened before? |
| 22:38.19 | Dario_Andres | you could ask for help at kdemod forums |
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| 22:39.17 | zc00gii | nvm |
| 22:39.20 | zc00gii | I see the problem |
| 22:39.27 | zc00gii | I just upgraded the packages I had |
| 22:39.34 | funkyou | zc00gii: i am currently uploading a new snapshot to kdemod-testing, you could try that when its finished and just update then -> these will become our 4.3 packages |
| 22:39.34 | kamiox | how to create plasmoid that appear always on top? |
| 22:39.39 | Digital_Pioneer | Ack, after upgrading to 4.2.3 I have a window that i can't get the border to appear on. |
| 22:39.42 | zc00gii | I haven't installed the new packages |
| 22:39.58 | zc00gii | funkyou: I used kdemod-unstable |
| 22:40.14 | funkyou | zc00gii: well, its unstable you know :) |
| 22:40.15 | zc00gii | funkyou: and I fixed the problem |
| 22:40.44 | Digital_Pioneer | I do alt-f3 and go to advanced->no border (which is checked) and click it, but the idiot thing doesn't give me my border back. And when I look at the menu, it's still checked. >:( |
| 22:40.46 | zc00gii | there were still ~63MB of packages needed to be downloaded |
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| 22:41.25 | zc00gii | I don't have 4.3 runtime packages installed |
| 22:42.17 | Digital_Pioneer | Oh, the stupid thing messed up my window-specific preferences in the upgrade. I deleted them all, but I guess now I've gotta remake them. |
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| 22:44.44 | Dario_Andres | Digital_Pioneer: are you getting that problem with only one application ? |
| 22:45.20 | Digital_Pioneer | Dario_Andres: Yeah, I only had window-specific preferences on one app. They got messed up by the upgrade somehow. |
| 22:45.50 | Digital_Pioneer | They were only supposed to apply to one window from the app, but after upgrading they went app-wide. |
| 22:45.58 | Dario_Andres | and can't you try to close that app and recheck the window settings later? |
| 22:46.34 | Digital_Pioneer | Dario_Andres: I did close the app. I didn't expect the window settings to have gone app-wide, but when I checked that, that was it. |
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| 22:46.51 | Dario_Andres | can't you fix them ? |
| 22:46.58 | Digital_Pioneer | Yeah, I fixed them. |
| 22:47.18 | Digital_Pioneer | Sorry, I didn't mention that... :P |
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| 22:51.00 | zc00gii | got it working |
| 22:51.10 | Martineo | arch linux 64bit, kdemod 4.2.3, sounds work outside kde, in kde apps not, seems as if artsd is not installed?!? |
| 22:51.57 | Dario_Andres | Arts is KDE3 |
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| 22:52.00 | Dario_Andres | Phonon is KDE4 :) |
| 22:52.13 | Dario_Andres | check out your Phonon settings in System Settings / Multimedia |
| 22:52.16 | Martineo | funny |
| 22:52.55 | Digital_Pioneer | Martineo: Good distro. ;) |
| 22:53.05 | Martineo | i agree :) |
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| 22:54.56 | Dario_Andres | :) |
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| 22:57.18 | VampirePenguin | hey all kde 4.2.3 is reallly really good.... i only have one complaint that is a repeatedd issue from the 3.x days, was there in 4.0 and is still there... wasnt too happy when kmail and kgpg ate my keyrings and deleted them.... but gpg and email programs need some serious work on properly talking to one another .... it keeps being marked as a bug then closed and dismissed... thunderbird and firegpg have it right... |
| 22:58.06 | huanglijun3 | is away: Gone away for now |
| 22:59.39 | Digital_Pioneer | VampirePenguin: Just take the MD5 hash of e-mails before sending them. Very simple encryption, and any unwanted third party will never figure out what you said. |
| 23:02.20 | Martineo | When I âtestâ I hear nothing, argh |
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| 23:02.38 | VampirePenguin | i usually sign only for emails, sometimes i encrypt... my thing is that kmail and even claws cant handle whatever communication protocol is being used to talk to gpg... and the error is a common complaint that keeps getting pushed aside |
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| 23:02.57 | VampirePenguin | i use bcrypt for files to send as attachments |
| 23:03.10 | VampirePenguin | gmail is funny on what types of files can be sent thru its servers |
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| 23:04.36 | huanglijun3 | is back. |
| 23:04.44 | N9NU | could someone tell me if there is a channel on here for obtaining help with a simple #!bin/bash script |
| 23:04.57 | N9NU | i am trying to add an option or two |
| 23:04.57 | Digital_Pioneer | VampirePenguin: GMail blocks attachments on criteria other than size? |
| 23:06.49 | VampirePenguin | ya it wont let and zip, exe, com , etc files |
| 23:08.01 | Martineo | haha, typing M-F2 and typing krunner :D |
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| 23:13.30 | zc00gii | in the new plasma, how do I do the "peeking into directions" thing(dumb question, just seems very useful) |
| 23:15.30 | Dario_Andres | zc00gii: on a folderview widget/containtment .. just mouseover a folder... |
| 23:16.03 | zc00gii | Dario_Andres: doesn't seem to work |
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| 23:18.02 | zc00gii | funkyou: should I be using the kdemod-unstable repo or kdemod-testing repo? |
| 23:19.15 | funkyou | zc00gii: try testing once its uploaded |
| 23:19.26 | zc00gii | I used unstable |
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| 23:19.56 | Martineo | is there any help for me? :( |
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| 23:20.30 | Dario_Andres | Martineo: what was your problem ? |
| 23:20.47 | Martineo | no sound in kde apps, as described |
| 23:21.03 | aseigo | Martineo: phonon just uses whatever media system you have available |
| 23:21.05 | Dario_Andres | have you checked your Multimedia options |
| 23:21.23 | aseigo | Martineo: so look at what phonon is using by looking at the multimedia control panel and make sure that's set up correctly |
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| 23:24.07 | Martineo | ⦠|
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| 23:45.23 | Ohboy | so uh.... I installed the containment plugin thing.... and uh, I changed my desktop to the "ClutteredDesktop".... and I really want the cashew back now... how do I do this? |
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| 23:47.04 | Dario_Andres | Ohboy: select the normal "Desktop" |
| 23:47.17 | Dario_Andres | or go to the options of the Cluttered Desktop and check the "Cashew" checkbox |
| 23:47.20 | Ohboy | yes, the problem is, I can't right click on the normal desktop now |
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| 23:47.39 | Ohboy | I don't get a menu :/ |
| 23:48.27 | Dario_Andres | mh. broken |
| 23:48.37 | Dario_Andres | you could try resetting your plasma configuration |
| 23:48.57 | Ohboy | rm -r ~/.kde4.2? |
| 23:49.33 | Dhraakellian | mv, not rm |
| 23:50.07 | Ohboy | I grepped all the files in ~/.kde4.2 (grep -iR) searching for Cluttered and found nothing :( |
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| 23:52.21 | Dario_Andres | Ohboy: what kde version do you have? |
| 23:52.26 | Ohboy | 4.2 |
| 23:52.50 | Dario_Andres | look at the plasma-appletsrc |
| 23:52.52 | Dario_Andres | file |
| 23:53.07 | Dario_Andres | for [Containments][someNumber] entries |
| 23:54.18 | Ohboy | ok, I have a bunch of those. |
| 23:55.26 | Dario_Andres | one of that should be the desktop (currently the cluttered one) |
| 23:55.43 | Dario_Andres | changing the name of the "plugin" field to "desktop" should revert to the old desktop |
| 23:55.52 | Dhraakellian | wonders how to get flash working in Konqueror |
| 23:56.28 | Fri13 | Dhraakellian: Have you scanned new plugins on konqueror settings? |
| 23:56.37 | Dhraakellian | yep |
| 23:56.44 | Ohboy | thanks...brb |
| 23:56.45 | Dhraakellian | I get nspluginviewer crashes |
| 23:56.55 | Fri13 | Dhraakellian: I had that problem. I added flash*.so file to ~ /.mozilla/plugins but never worked until scanned. |
| 23:57.07 | Fri13 | Dhraakellian: Have you tried on new user account? |
| 23:57.11 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 23:57.43 | Frogbarf | Dhraakellian: What version of Flash do you have? |
| 23:58.04 | Dhraakellian | ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so is listed |
| 23:58.05 | apt | that's too long, Dhraakellian |
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| 23:58.21 | Frogbarf | is it 64 or 32 bit? |
| 23:58.36 | Dhraakellian | 10.0.22.87 |
| 23:58.46 | Dhraakellian | on this old p4? 32-bit |
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| 23:59.51 | Dhraakellian | using KDE 4.3beta1, since my curiosity refused to be restrained |
