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00:03.18 | nbetcher | hello. Can anyone please remind me how to run a GUI application from within a script so that KDE can track it's status so the launch notifiers work properly? I forgot how. I thought it was via 'exec', but that doesn't seem to work |
00:06.14 | nbetcher | Was I unclear? :( |
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00:15.07 | Rasi | hmm |
00:15.31 | Rasi | kstart APP? |
00:15.51 | nbetcher | can't be reliant on KDE |
00:15.56 | nbetcher | It's not a KDE app |
00:16.00 | Rasi | ah i see |
00:16.10 | nbetcher | If it were it would not have this problem :) |
00:16.24 | Rasi | i dont really understand the problem... |
00:16.32 | Rasi | a script should just say "app &" |
00:16.53 | nbetcher | Why fork it? |
00:17.03 | Rasi | depends what you want to do :) |
00:17.26 | nbetcher | `$RUNDIR/app $*` <--- that's what the offending line is |
00:17.49 | Rasi | can you show the whole line? |
00:17.53 | nbetcher | I want it so that when the script is double-clicked the KDe notifications don't bounce until they time out |
00:17.57 | nbetcher | That is the whole line |
00:18.04 | Rasi | thats the whole line? |
00:18.07 | Rasi | why the ` ` |
00:18.10 | nbetcher | I've tried: exec `$RUNDIR/app $*` |
00:18.12 | nbetcher | as well |
00:18.19 | nbetcher | I assume to expand the variable? |
00:18.21 | Rasi | you know what ` ` does? |
00:18.22 | nbetcher | I didn't write this :P |
00:18.37 | nbetcher | In laymans terms I do, I assumed that might mess things up |
00:18.39 | nbetcher | let me change that |
00:18.52 | Rasi | ` ` returns the ouput of the included command as argument to some command preceeding it |
00:19.33 | Rasi | since you dont have a command preceeding it, its useless :) |
00:19.47 | nbetcher | I tried putting one in front of it (exec) |
00:19.55 | nbetcher | didn't change the behavior |
00:19.56 | Rasi | where have you defined rundir? |
00:20.11 | nbetcher | above it as $PWD |
00:20.19 | Rasi | can i see the script? |
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00:21.22 | Rasi | no dcc here |
00:21.27 | Rasi | use a paste service |
00:21.28 | mbostwick | hello |
00:22.37 | mbostwick | im in kde 4.2 ubuntu, I am looking to use symbals like the ohm symbal(I would like the function that windows has where you hold old and type in the num pad the asci keys) but I have heard that dead keys can do what I'd like dose 4.2 have dead keys or is there anther choice ? |
00:23.07 | mbostwick | symbols* |
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00:24.07 | mbostwick | short questions: Are there dead keys in kde 4.2 ? |
00:24.48 | nbetcher | That's what dead keys were? And here I thought dead keys were keys that were dead :P |
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00:26.23 | mbostwick | in kde 3.5 it was > KDE Control Center > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Layout, once there select the "Xkb Options" tab and in the "Compose Key" group select the key to hit when you need an accent. |
00:26.44 | mbostwick | but I can not find this in 4.2 :( |
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00:35.02 | cobra-the-joker | hey there guys ...how can i get flash working or konquerer ...old one ..for KDE 3.5 |
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00:38.38 | cobra-the-joker | any body here ? |
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00:40.42 | mbostwick | hello |
00:41.26 | cobra-the-joker | hey mbostwick , you know how to get flash player working for konq? |
00:41.27 | mbostwick | so dose anyone know if kde 4.2 has dead keys anymore? |
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00:41.41 | mbostwick | why do you want flash on konq ? |
00:41.55 | cobra-the-joker | youtube and that stuff |
00:42.21 | mbostwick | cobra-the-joker: well if i were you id use firefox...but I think there is a plug in choice in your options |
00:43.02 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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01:02.26 | Digital_Pioneer | Hi. I seem to remember Kwin4 having a plugin to record the desktop. I can't find that now, am I crazy or was it removed? |
01:03.30 | Guest29703 | hey, I need some help here, I trying update my kde 4.1 to 4.2 on my F10 kde live usb, and having file conflicts between the two packages |
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01:47.28 | max_power_gentoo | [gentoo] KDE 4.2.89 --> i am having problems with GTK apps (or non qt apps?), they simply "crash"/disappear randomly, eclipse for example or firefox from time to time, they are fine under 4.2.4 or gnome |
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02:04.55 | downs | hi |
02:04.59 | downs | do you know if kdenlive has a channel? |
02:05.08 | drantin | 'lo downs |
02:05.10 | downs | It's just I managed to crash it within the first five minutes of usage. |
02:05.12 | downs | hi drantin ^^ |
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02:05.50 | Oceanwatcher | I asked some time ago regarding the speed of the search/type function in the Kaddressbook. It was extremely slow. Type one letter, wait 5-10 seconds. Type a new letter, wait 5-10 seconds more and so on. After upgrading from KDE 4.2.3 to 4.2.4 I tested again and the probelm is gone. Searching there is now instant and I have 1600+ addresses in my list. |
02:06.22 | downs | and I can totally reproduce it. |
02:06.48 | downs | (this is on 0.7.3) |
02:07.04 | downs | (I'll try .4) |
02:07.04 | Oceanwatcher | downs: #kdenlive |
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02:07.09 | downs | Oceanwatcher: oh thanks |
02:07.16 | downs | have fun people ^^ |
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02:09.36 | sergiodj | hi guys, is there any way to make threads in kmail appear on top of the message list when a new message is received in the thread discussion? |
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02:48.10 | max_power_gentoo | [gentoo] KDE 4.2.89 --> I got some problems with GTK (non qt) apps where they just crash/disappear but run fine under 4.2.4 and gnome, example: eclipse, firefox, gnome-color-chooser... |
02:50.12 | opi99_sleep | max_power_gentoo: Did you get usefull tracebacks? |
02:50.53 | max_power_gentoo | opi99_sleep: that's the thing, I get nothing, it's weird, I found no common cause, even with strace |
02:52.19 | opi99 | max_power_gentoo: Hmmm, so I can't help |
02:53.39 | max_power_gentoo | opi99: so I get that this wasn't reported often? |
02:54.24 | opi99 | max_power_gentoo: Didn't heard it yet ... and it don't happen to me |
02:54.42 | opi99 | max_power_gentoo: On the other side, I'm here since yesterday ;) |
02:54.48 | max_power_gentoo | opi99: what distro? |
02:56.20 | aseigo | max_power_gentoo: if you run them from a terminal app (e.g. konsole) do you get anything on stdout when they give up the ghost? |
02:56.54 | aseigo | max_power_gentoo: sometimes there is useful output on terminal but nowhere else... or in .xsession-errors for that matter |
02:58.03 | opi99 | max_power_gentoo: kubuntu, but I compile KDE from SVN daily |
02:58.07 | max_power_gentoo | aseigo: yep, tried that. with eclipse and firefox there is no output whatsoever, just like an abort, but with gnome-color-chooser I get 2 output possible: "Aborted" or Segmentation Fault |
02:59.11 | max_power_gentoo | aseigo: in .xsession-errors there is nothing useful except some normal warnings |
02:59.15 | aseigo | max_power_gentoo: ew. i wonder if some shared dependency that's was updated causing some problem :/ |
02:59.27 | aseigo | uhm. insert the word "is" in there somewhere :P |
03:00.40 | max_power_gentoo | aseigo: I rebuilt everything twice (@world) using different gcc just for fun and nothing |
03:01.16 | max_power_gentoo | aseigo: hopefully 4.2.90 will fix this for me |
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03:10.06 | fawx | When I shade a window in 4.2, it shows it on all workspaces, how can I prevent that? |
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03:18.44 | aseigo | fawx: is double click set to "set on all desktops" in Actions page in the configuration dialog? (right click on a window title bar -> Configure Window Behaviour) |
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03:31.08 | fawx | aseigo: no |
03:31.28 | aseigo | odd... don't know what else might cause that... |
03:31.37 | aseigo | is out of suggestions at just 1 :( |
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03:32.04 | fawx | It happens when I shade on scrolling |
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03:32.40 | ddhanasekar | how to stop the invitation when I start the fedora10 |
03:35.42 | ddhanasekar | how to stop the invitation .The Desktop sharinag invitation appear ,everytime when I start the Fedora10 |
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03:40.42 | samuel | hello guys |
03:40.55 | samuel | anyone know if kexi web forms still exists? |
03:41.06 | samuel | what is it called now if it does |
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03:42.39 | max_ | Hi When im viewing my home folder, the "desktop" item has no icon untill i hover over it. How can i get it to display the icon all the time? |
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03:44.14 | opi99 | max_: Which version on which distro are you using? |
03:44.23 | aseigo | samuel: i think it's still called the same thing? |
03:44.36 | max_ | opi99: Kubuntu 9.04. |
03:44.43 | samuel | aseigo: is it still alive? |
03:44.44 | max_ | KDE3.5. |
03:45.18 | opi99 | max_: Oh, did you upgrade or a fresh install? |
03:45.31 | dotCOMmie | Hello, I'm having a bit of a problem but I'm not sure whos at fault; kde4 or yakuake. I have a global keyboard shortcut to "unfold" yakuake, its configured to F35. Each time I log into KDE the shortcut doesn't work, I have to open disable and then re-enable the shortcut in the system settings. Any idea what is going on? |
03:45.36 | aseigo | samuel: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3933 |
03:45.39 | max_ | opi99: fresh |
03:45.41 | aseigo | samuel: that's all i know ... |
03:46.26 | aseigo | dotCOMmie: kde3 or kde4 version of yakuake? |
03:46.30 | opi99 | max_: So it seems they miss an icon, maybe look through kubuntus bug database |
03:46.36 | samuel | aseigo: thanks |
03:46.55 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: yakuake 2.9.6 |
03:47.01 | max_ | opi99: its not missing though. It just hides itself unless i hover over it. |
03:47.11 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: I'm quite sure its kde4 |
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03:50.05 | opi99 | max_: Ah on hover you see the correct desktop icon ... seems I can't help |
03:50.14 | aseigo | dotCOMmie: ok, yes, that's kde4... hm. that implies that it's not properly registering the key at log in .. you said F35? |
03:50.29 | max_ | opi99: thanks anyway |
03:50.49 | max_ | Does anyone know how to remove items from the System Menu applet? |
03:51.09 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: Yes, I xmodmap capslock to F35 |
03:51.25 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: let me try F12 see how that works |
03:51.40 | aseigo | dotCOMmie: ok; i woner if that's happening "too late" in the process and it can't see F35 when it first registers |
03:51.45 | aseigo | er, wonder |
03:52.02 | opi99 | max_: I search the kubuntu bug db |
03:52.12 | dotCOMmie | Why would it read which keys the keyboard is mapped to? |
03:53.35 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: yeah f12 works as expected |
03:53.42 | ddhanasekar | how to stop the invitation .The Desktop sharinag invitation appear ,everytime when I start the Fedora10.Does anyone know ? |
03:55.02 | shodan45 | downloading a large file to ~/Desktop with desktop set to folder view causes it to update constantly, pegging my CPU.... anyone else see that too? |
03:55.33 | shodan45 | I was downloading with firefox, not a kde app |
03:56.15 | shodan45 | oh and kde 4.2.4 on opensuse 11.1 |
03:56.15 | dotCOMmie | aseigo: It somewhat makes sence what you are saying but I don't understand why it should happened that way. Would you consider it a bug |
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03:56.55 | linuxguy | 4.2.4 is cool |
03:57.05 | linuxguy | and i discovered lancelot |
03:57.49 | linuxguy | i have to admit, you guys keep making it better every release |
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04:02.02 | opi99 | max_: I don't found a bug entry in kubuntu |
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04:20.47 | opi99 | openttd and compositing leeds to 100% CPU :-( |
04:21.19 | shodan45 | hm, can anyone else reproduce my problem? |
04:25.08 | opi99 | shodan45: didn't tried, but it seems that FF updates the file and so the folderview tries to update themself ... so folderview should change its behavior. |
04:26.07 | opi99 | shodan45: And I think it doesn't depend on large files |
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04:26.56 | shodan45 | opi99, right, that's what I thought was happening |
04:27.15 | shodan45 | guess I'll go file a bug then |
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05:57.00 | oneforall | Unable to start the cookie handler service. whats do i need to do to fix this ? konq in 3.5.9 |
05:57.13 | oneforall | You will not be able to manage the cookies that are stored on your computer. . need that to get in to the ftp too |
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06:06.56 | liveuser | muito bom |
06:07.28 | Guest65387 | ok |
06:07.32 | Guest65387 | escuse-me |
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06:15.32 | oneforall | geez am I going to have to restart kde :( |
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06:55.25 | JohnBat26 | Hello |
06:56.09 | JohnBat26 | I had install kde 4.2.4 at gentoo linux (x86 & x86-64) |
06:56.41 | JohnBat26 | and I have a problem with Knotify |
06:57.33 | JohnBat26 | for example: During copy files knotify icon appears in tray, but |
06:57.54 | JohnBat26 | pop up window is absent ?!? |
06:58.05 | JohnBat26 | Is this a bug? |
06:58.15 | JohnBat26 | thank in advance |
06:58.18 | JohnBat26 | ;) |
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06:59.56 | Luke-Jr | JohnBat26: try clicking it |
07:00.04 | Luke-Jr | most people don't care to sit watcing copy status |
07:01.19 | JohnBat26 | Luke-Jr: I understand that pop up windows must disappear over several seconds |
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07:02.35 | JohnBat26 | Luke-Jr: I attempted click at icon, but pop up window don't appears more |
07:02.38 | JohnBat26 | ;) |
07:04.51 | JohnBat26 | Luke-Jr: So I observe only alone icon while copy process don't end |
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07:05.05 | JohnBat26 | without pop up windows |
07:05.23 | Luke-Jr | odd |
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07:05.27 | Luke-Jr | works for me ⺠|
07:05.36 | Luke-Jr | tried restarting knotify? |
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07:10.32 | dziadu | are sources for kde-4.2.90 available yet? |
07:10.35 | JohnBat26 | Luke-Jr: restart Knotify4 = pkill - 9 -f knotify && knotify? |
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07:16.50 | Luke-Jr | kquitapp knotify && knotify |
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07:25.38 | JohnBat26 | next question |
07:26.22 | JohnBat26 | I use kmail with kde 4.2.4 and try to send message at SMTP to MS exchange |
07:26.40 | JohnBat26 | I version 4.2.3 all work ok |
07:27.02 | JohnBat26 | now I get error: 5.5.4 Invalid adress |
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07:35.30 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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07:50.55 | max_power_gentoo | is 4.2.90 delayed? |
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08:02.36 | SetiAmon | hey I can't seem to find the option to turn off auto-away/auto nick change in konversation can anyone help me? |
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08:21.37 | ChrisBuchholz | Hi, i switched from ubuntu to kubuntu 9.04 yesterday, and will be running kde for the next month, to try it out |
08:22.15 | ChrisBuchholz | there's some things nagging me though, already - i've always heard that kde had build-in global menu, like that on mac and the Gnome GlobalMenu? I can't find it anywhere |
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08:25.05 | ChrisBuchholz | sorry, that should've been in #kubuntu - |
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09:10.35 | ungethym | Hi there! |
09:11.39 | ungethym | I want to disable Knetworkmanager starting up when I start my KDE4.3beta (I have the plamoid now.) |
09:12.11 | cb400f | why not just uninstall it? .. are you using openSUSE? |
09:12.18 | ungethym | I checked .kde4/autostart and .kde/ and some other places |
09:12.33 | ungethym | jep, I'm using OpenSUSE |
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09:13.03 | ungethym | I might need it for VPNC connection |
09:13.09 | cb400f | 'rpm -ql NetworkManager-kde | grep -i autostart' |
09:14.03 | cb400f | is on his workstation without NM so he can't do it himself |
09:14.26 | ungethym | => /opt/kde3/share/autostart/knetworkmanager-autostart.desktop |
09:14.43 | cb400f | yup.. so (re)move that file, and it will stop autostarting |
09:15.23 | ungethym | isn't that only for kde3 desktop sessions? |
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09:15.44 | ungethym | (because there I find kpowermanager and that one isn't starting (anymore) |
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09:16.28 | cb400f | hmm.. not sure.. I just uninstall knm3 |
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09:17.13 | ungethym | thanks. I'll try. |
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09:29.01 | ungethym | cb400f: Thanks for your help. I deleted the autostart file and now knm3 doens't start up anymore. |
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09:59.09 | javi | what kde4 ftp program do you use? |
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10:00.18 | bertodsera_ | hmmm is this the right place for question about pulseaudio and kde? |
10:00.59 | psteyn | nooooooo ;p |
10:01.25 | psteyn | pulseaudio + kde is usually caused by [ku]buntu or fedora/suse people, ask #distro |
10:01.46 | psteyn | (oh, and dont ask to ask..just ask) :) |
10:02.09 | javi | is there some way to disable kubuntu translations for kde programs? |
10:04.04 | bertodsera_ | psteyn: nope, I'm on gentoo and I have a more generic question |
10:04.35 | bertodsera_ | I wonder if there is (needs to be) a selector to activate 5.1 mode on pulse and where I can find it |
10:04.58 | psteyn | oh, im unsure |
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10:06.16 | bertodsera_ | the sound is kinda "dark", and that was *partially* cured on alsa by switching on the 5.1 mode |
10:06.39 | bertodsera_ | but I can't seem to find anything like that here |
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10:11.22 | AVRS | Hi. Is the Konqueror 4 logo under GPLv2+ or some other license? |
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10:16.06 | cb400f | AVRS: you mean the icon? I guess this applies http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4 |
10:16.18 | cb400f | .. doesn't specify lgpl version.. guess that means v2 |
10:17.07 | AVRS | Yes, the logo which is at http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php |
10:18.13 | AVRS | According to the LGPL, no version specified means any version⦠|
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10:24.18 | cb400f | it might be specified elsewhere ;-) |
10:24.39 | marko_d | does kopete in svn have auto reconnect ? |
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10:25.43 | krege | why oxygen-icon-theme-scalable is disabled? |
10:28.39 | AVRS | It's not that logo. |
10:29.44 | AVRS | I mean this one: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/apps/konqueror/pics/hi128-app-konqueror.png?view=markup |
10:30.06 | cb400f | the kde3 icon |
10:30.38 | cb400f | guess that's under whatever license the crystal icons were under |
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10:31.32 | AVRS | Oh wait, the logo I was supposed to be looking for is the one from Oxygen. |
10:31.38 | AVRS | Thank you. |
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10:44.26 | AVRS | GNU LGPL 3+ with an exception. |
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10:44.46 | AVRS | I.e. a pointer to the exception in the license. |
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10:51.24 | Half-Left | krege|aw: because it has certain effects in it that qsvg doesn't render |
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10:52.01 | Half-Left | So it's png and svg just for the source |
10:52.04 | AVRS | But an older COPYING file does not specify a version: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebase/runtime/pics/oxygen/COPYING?revision=757128&view=markup |
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10:54.59 | Guest54810 | I just installed KDE from trunk (checkout is a couple weeks old), and when I startx (with /usr/kde/4/bin/startkde in my .xinitrc), I get kde4, but it also starts kicker and ktip from kde3. Can anyone give me a hint why this is so? |
10:56.03 | Guest54810 | now kicker sits right above the plasma-taskbar. I've already looked at the startkde-script, but of course it doesn't contain either ktip or kicker. And I deleted my user's .kde* before, so I'm really clueless |
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10:57.26 | Half-Left | So you have KDE3 installed? |
10:57.44 | Guest54810 | Half-Left: yes, I do, in /usr/kde/3.5/ |
10:57.57 | Guest54810 | It might even still be in my PATH. |
10:58.12 | Half-Left | Yep, most lightly |
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10:59.15 | Guest54810 | Half-Left: But that shouldn't be a problem, should it? I just need to find out who is starting ktip and kicker. It's not like its starting the wrong VERSION of kicker, as kicker doesn't exist in kde4. |
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11:00.00 | Half-Left | Well it's executing kicker from your path somehow |
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11:02.05 | tertitten | is it possible to change the wigth of the taskbar buttons ?, they are so wide rigth now |
11:02.10 | Guest54810 | pstree shows kicker and ktip as children of init?! |
11:02.37 | tertitten | *width |
11:04.18 | liveuser_ | In KDE System Settings, I can't find a printer module to setup my printer? |
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11:04.48 | Rasi | http://localhost:631 is all you need |
11:05.24 | Half-Left | tertitten: In 4.3 you can add spacers to make them smaller |
11:05.34 | Half-Left | other than that, no |
11:05.35 | Rasi | Guest54810: check ~/.config/autostart/ |
11:05.44 | tertitten | Half-Left: ok |
11:05.57 | Half-Left | Or a spacer |
11:06.19 | Rasi | sadly the spacers are not as dynamic as the old community-made panelspacer plasmoid |
11:06.43 | Half-Left | How so? |
11:07.01 | Rasi | Half-Left: the old one dynamically resided itself if needed, shrinking and growing |
11:07.10 | Rasi | the 4.3 thingie cant seem to do the same |
11:07.42 | Half-Left | Oh so it re-sized according to what you take out on put in? |
11:08.00 | Rasi | well take alternate taskmanagers (stasks) |
11:08.09 | Rasi | they obviously need more space when more windows are open |
11:08.35 | liveuser_ | Rasi: I'm using Fedora 11 and if I click on Add Printer in localhost:631 nothing happens |
11:08.51 | Rasi | liveuser_: try another browser? |
11:08.54 | Rasi | it should open a dialog |
11:09.22 | Rasi | if not: file a bug at fedora |
11:09.28 | liveuser_ | Rasi: ok I'll try firefox instead of konqueror. |
11:09.36 | Guest54810 | Rasi: I don't have that file/folder |
11:09.47 | Rasi | Guest54810: ok... was just a wild guess |
11:09.52 | Kame2 | liveuser: https://localhost:631 should work in konqueror |
11:10.20 | Kame2 | without https, it trys to use tls when adding printer which konqueror doesn't support |
11:10.22 | Half-Left | Rasi: Yeah, the current on keeps the size what you make it, so task bars don't grow. |
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11:11.04 | Half-Left | ones* |
11:11.11 | Rasi | well its a staks bug (it should automatically reserve all space), but the old spacer plasmoid was a nice workaround |
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11:11.39 | liveuser_ | thanks, firefox seems to work (at least it shows me a printer list...) |
11:11.53 | Half-Left | Well that's in playground, so it's still a option :) |
11:12.04 | Rasi | hmm? |
11:12.09 | Rasi | last time i tried it didnt work in 4.3 |
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11:12.34 | Half-Left | Maybe the dev hasn't made it work with 4.3, but it's in playground |
11:12.59 | Half-Left | the spacer plasmoid that is |
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11:17.45 | vip | hi |
11:18.59 | vip | we've (pld linux) have compilation problems with kdepim-4.2.4 |
11:19.14 | vip | can anybody give a shot into build log? |
11:19.16 | vip | http://buildlogs.pld-linux.org/index.php?dist=th&arch=i486&ok=0&name=kde4-kdepim&id=fd821869-4d02-40f7-a72f-c0969741c1db |
11:19.34 | vip | there's a link to text version, list of installed packages and so |
11:19.48 | vip | compilation stopped at: /usr/include/boost/graph/graph_traits.hpp:26: error: no type named 'vertex_descriptor' in 'class boost::adjacency_list<>' |
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11:23.25 | Guest46957 | hi, I have a question to work out why I can't connect to my bank with Konqui from KDE 4.2.4 on openSUSE 11.1. I've already tried #opensuse-kde and it doesn't seem distro specific, though some kind bod confirmed the same on kde 4.3b1 |
11:24.04 | Guest46957 | "SSL negotiation failed" is a bit cryptic, and it worked Ok under KDE 3.5, although I have a fuzzy memory of jumping through some hoops to get it going at one point |
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11:24.49 | Guest46957 | using /opt/kde3/bin/konqueror I can see a "Peer SSL Certificate" for them installed |
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11:25.13 | Guest46957 | to replicate, https://myonlineaccounts2.abbeynational.co.uk/CentralLogonWeb/Logon?action=prepare |
11:25.41 | Guest46957 | or navigate to there from http://www.abbey.co.uk and then chose the "Online banking" link from the right hand side of the top menu, and then clicking the "Log On" button from the top-left hand pane of the page |
11:26.40 | Half-Left | Guest46957: Get someone to reproduce it if you can and post a bug report. |
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11:27.20 | Guest46957 | I also note that Crypto-SSL Signers is blank |
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11:28.51 | Guest46957 | Half-Left: Hmm, I'd rather not post from bugzilla account with my email address & bank ;-) |
11:29.18 | Guest46957 | I get nK phishing attempts already each quarter! |
11:29.39 | Half-Left | Well of course not, just post the issue |
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11:30.10 | Guest46957 | but its only that bank site that I've run into trouble, four others work fine |
11:30.50 | cghislai | Guest46957: i can confirm, and i don't find ssl settings as there were in kde3 |
11:31.39 | Half-Left | You can't compare it to KDE3 |
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11:31.59 | Guest46957 | really? works ok kde3.5, !work kde4.2.4 ;-) |
11:32.15 | cghislai | Half-Left: did i? |
11:32.15 | Half-Left | KDE4 works different, alot more different |
11:32.34 | Guest46957 | works ok in FireFox 3.0.10, but I don't think downgrading or jumping to another browser is the issue |
11:32.39 | Half-Left | So just post a bug report |
11:32.46 | Guest46957 | I usually suspect it is me.... |
11:33.21 | Guest46957 | Half-Left: happy to post a bug report, how do I do it anonymously? ie not associated with my kde-bugzilla login? |
11:33.24 | cghislai | Guest46957: are you frensh? |
11:33.48 | cghislai | issue means 'problem' |
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11:34.19 | Half-Left | You have to have a bugs.kde.org account, no idea about your kde-bugzilla login |
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11:34.34 | Guest46957 | cghislai: no, but they are my second favourite group of people, as Bob Monkhouse once said ;-) |
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11:49.29 | BeteNoire | any idea why do i get those bars http://img141.imageshack.us/i/bars.png/ ? |
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12:01.32 | fawx | In 4.2, using Kopete, it shouws double of every buddy in my buddy list |
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12:08.47 | InforMed | Hi! Can someone help-me? I'm using kde 4.3 beta 2! If i reduce height of the kde panel my system tray look ugly! Is it a know bug? |
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12:11.49 | mosno | InforMed: you're running a prerelease... check the bug db |
12:13.31 | Half-Left | InforMed: Ugly how? |
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12:22.02 | gomoran_ | Is it possible to sync korganizer and kaddressbook of KDE4 to a mobile phone? |
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12:23.02 | InforMed | mosno: Half-Left http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1903/normalz.png vs http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/184/uglyr.png |
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12:24.35 | Half-Left | InforMed: How did the Ugly one come about? |
12:24.41 | Half-Left | "Ugly" |
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12:25.47 | mosno | InforMed: it's probably the font size of your clock |
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12:25.48 | arkascha | How can I prevent windows from getting transparent in steps when middle clicking on the title bar ? Using KDe4.2.88 @ opensuse-11.1. |
12:25.50 | arkascha | I _do_ want them to become transparent when I scroll the wheel over the titlebar, but not when I click them. |
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12:26.51 | InforMed | Half-Left: system tray loses the contours... |
12:27.17 | Half-Left | InforMed: When did you see this from? |
12:28.03 | cb400f | maybe it's a air theme bug.. is air the official default plasma theme in b2? |
12:28.12 | InforMed | Kde 4.2.4 the air plasma theme looks good even with a small panel |
12:28.16 | Half-Left | Don't think so |
12:28.25 | cb400f | how tall is the panel on the "ugly" one? |
12:29.22 | Half-Left | The systemtray icons don't scale. That's what it looks like |
12:29.46 | InforMed | cb400f: how do I know how tall is the panel! |
12:29.49 | InforMed | ? |
12:30.14 | cb400f | the panel configuration dialog shows it, when you pull on the handle to change the height |
12:31.04 | InforMed | cb400f: doesn't show |
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12:32.43 | Half-Left | it's not the theme because it does it on other themes. it's because the system tray icons don't scale |
12:32.43 | cb400f | I can reproduce it somewhat on b1.. it seems a bit hit and miss.. if I try to make it smaller than 32 px it seems to mostly do that thing.. but not every time |
12:33.47 | dvl | I have a new keyboard/mouse. MIcrosfotwa Natural Ergonomic Desktop 7000. Wireless. Keyboard works. Mouse does not. Ideas for investigation please? |
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12:34.42 | Half-Left | dvl: Does it work outside of KDE? |
12:35.24 | InforMed | cb400f: So is it a know bug? I can't find the report! |
12:35.51 | cb400f | dunno.. hadn't noticed before |
12:36.13 | cb400f | maybe it's a feature |
12:37.00 | Half-Left | I wouldn't say it's ugly, it's upto the theme to have boarders in the system tray |
12:37.10 | cb400f | if the panel is very thin, maybe you wouldn't want to waste space around the systray |
12:38.03 | InforMed | cb400f: but the same thin panel on kde 4.2.4 looks better! |
12:38.30 | cb400f | guess.. that depends.. how big is your resolution and monitor? |
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12:38.58 | Half-Left | Well the systemtray is different in 4.3 anyway |
12:39.08 | cb400f | if you high resolution the systray icons could become so small that you need high precision to click them |
12:39.38 | InforMed | 1280 x 800... 15,4" It's a notebook! |
12:39.43 | cb400f | regardless.. the behaviour is quite unpredictable.. and it's only speculation that it might be a feature |
12:40.10 | cb400f | you could ask in #plasma I guess |
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12:41.05 | InforMed | thanks cb400f... |
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12:41.40 | cb400f | and you could tell them I said I want to be able to have different panels on different activities ;-) |
12:42.08 | dvl | Half-Left: good point, no, it does not work outside KDE. |
12:42.40 | cb400f | and also tell them I'm tired of people asking how to make desktop/panel shortcuts for stuff that doesn't already exist in the menu |
12:42.43 | cb400f | ;-) |
12:43.14 | Half-Left | dvl: Not a KDE issue then :). Ask you distro channel |
12:43.55 | dvl | Half-Left: agreed. |
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13:01.35 | CPU_Wizard | hello people. is there anything like "caching" in kde, as there is in windows for example? i want it to speed application launching even i start them for the first time after booting my linux) |
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13:02.29 | Selen | salve |
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13:04.15 | cb400f | CPU_Wizard: you can look at some preload stuff.. doesn't have much to do with kde specifically though.. you should ask in your distro channel |
13:04.32 | Sho_ | CPU_Wizard: that's more a system-level thing than something KDE would do ... yes there are some solutions floating around, but distros haven't really integrated that stuff so far |
13:04.32 | CPU_Wizard | ok cb400f :) thnx a lot |
13:04.47 | CPU_Wizard | should i give it a try? |
13:04.55 | cb400f | a few specific apps like OOo, Firefox and Konq have special options |
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13:05.25 | Sho_ | yeah, Kong has an option to preload an instance |
13:05.26 | CPU_Wizard | i know for openoffice, but i was wondering if there is something "global" for the whole system. thnx a lot :) |
13:05.34 | Sho_ | CPU_Wizard: well, give it a try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preload_%28software%29 |
13:05.38 | Selen | italiani qua? |
13:05.41 | Sho_ | CPU_Wizard: I have no personal experience with it, though |
13:05.52 | CPU_Wizard | ok, thnx :) |
13:06.08 | Sho_ | Selen: there might be #kde.it |
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13:07.25 | pinotree | Sho_: #kde-italia |
13:07.34 | pinotree | (but she left) |
13:08.21 | Sho_ | ok, will remember for the future |
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13:12.56 | imc | hello |
13:13.31 | imc | i'm running kde-4.2.4, i'm wondering at which release window-specific settings will actually handle window opacity (active/inactive).... anyone? |
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13:15.14 | ForeverSmurf | ho do I determine which version of kde I am using? |
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13:17.10 | CapaH | Is it possible with KWin effects to set 'top right' screen as a trigger for certain events? particularly expo? |
13:19.46 | cb400f | CapaH: assuming you have 4.2, you can configure some stuff in systemsettings -> desktop -> desktop effects -> screen edges |
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13:23.06 | Guest46957 | ForeverSmurf: if you got to Help->About from a KDE app, like Konqueror, it will tell you. Also if you click on Help->Report Bug |
13:23.20 | ForeverSmurf | oh yeah |
13:23.26 | ForeverSmurf | thanks |
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13:23.35 | ForeverSmurf | 4.2.2 |
13:23.53 | Guest46957 | NP, the version is also now cut'n'pase, if filing a bug report "externally" |
13:23.55 | ForeverSmurf | I'm going to try and get the latest version before I complain about this annoying bug ;-) |
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13:43.18 | Vladimiroff | it was in kdepim, now it's missing... |
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14:06.27 | AbsTradELic | Hi there !! |
14:06.49 | PhilRod | hi AbsTradELic |
14:06.57 | AbsTradELic | please, exist a console widget ? |
14:07.05 | AbsTradELic | for kde 4 ? |
14:07.38 | AbsTradELic | hi PhilRod !! ; ) |
14:08.07 | AbsTradELic | Im thinking to put a console in plasma |
14:08.18 | AbsTradELic | a terminal |
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14:09.47 | AbsTradELic | PhilRod, what do you mean ? |
14:10.18 | PhilRod | I don't know about a console widget, but one might exist |
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14:11.12 | AbsTradELic | yes... its a usefull idea |
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14:11.37 | tuxick | when i insert removable storage i get this annoying message i can't close |
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14:11.50 | tuxick | how do i tell it to get lost? |
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14:12.34 | mr_blue | hi all |
14:12.53 | AbsTradELic | hi there ! |
14:12.54 | mr_blue | is it the right place to ask a question about konqueror ? |
14:13.14 | AbsTradELic | mr_blue, yes |
14:13.33 | AbsTradELic | mr_blue, but... before... read the documentation |
14:13.33 | comraderaikov | tuxick, go to Add widgets and click on the widget's "-" button to close it. |
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14:14.37 | comraderaikov | btw, anyone know why my Picture frame widget isn't availible anymore? |
14:14.53 | tuxick | ah cheers |
14:14.55 | tuxick | logical |
14:15.03 | comraderaikov | It's not showing up under add widget or anything |
14:15.07 | mr_blue | i want to change my user-agent to iphone. So i installed the plugin for that but cannot adding iphone user-agent. So i googled and added two lines in my ~/.kde/share/conf/kio_httprc but nothing changing.... how to add different user-agent like iphone ? |
14:15.32 | mr_blue | on konqueror |
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14:17.01 | cb400f | mr_blue: you want to do it on all sites .. or just one? |
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14:18.33 | mr_blue | cb400f: all or one no preferences |
14:19.13 | cb400f | if the user agent switcher plugin is installed.. tools -> switch browser id -> configure... |
14:19.58 | cb400f | but you can only do it per site afaik |
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14:26.05 | mr_blue | cb400f: yes i know but throw this way it is impossible to add a custom user-agent. |
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14:27.12 | cb400f | hm.. seems you're right |
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14:39.47 | Sefler | I can't start up my kdebluetooth4 in fedora 11, any ideas? |
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14:46.34 | cb400f | Sefler: try starting it from the command line and look for useful output.. and try asking in #fedora-kde |
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14:51.52 | Sefler | Fine. |
14:52.50 | cb400f | at least I can say it works decently for me here on openSUSE |
14:53.18 | cb400f | .. but kbluetooth4 is "playground", so... |
14:53.38 | cb400f | can't expect it to be 100% smooth sailing |
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15:12.55 | leleobhz | have some way to use knotify4 from shell? |
15:13.02 | leleobhz | using qdbus as example? |
15:13.30 | leleobhz | e.g: to use with irssi in place to libnotify, using gtk... |
15:13.30 | pinotree | kdialog --passivepopup |
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15:13.38 | imc | leleobhz: ghgh kewl idea! |
15:13.39 | leleobhz | let me try |
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15:13.54 | leleobhz | pinotree: nice! |
15:14.04 | leleobhz | very simple |
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15:31.29 | tuxick | i tried to copy a 'protected' dvd with k3b, it didn't complain but produced a useless dual layer dvd |
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15:31.36 | tuxick | kinda feel ripped off now |
15:31.54 | tuxick | can't even mount it |
15:33.30 | leleobhz | pinotree: with knotify i can change the icon of notify? |
15:34.02 | pinotree | don't think so |
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15:34.31 | fengshaun | does anyone know where does the plasma air theme live on websvn? |
15:35.41 | leleobhz | pinotree: have some another options to do this from shell or perl? |
15:35.51 | pinotree | nope |
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15:37.55 | leleobhz | last: ark crashed and leaved a notify with progress barr incomplete |
15:38.09 | leleobhz | every time something notifies me, the ark notification still up |
15:38.20 | kdepepo | fengshaun, http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/desktoptheme/air/ |
15:38.21 | leleobhz | have some way to restart the notify daemon? |
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15:38.38 | fengshaun | kdepepo: thanks! |
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15:41.16 | Luke-Jr | tuxick: you could try suing the people responsible (DVD spec committee or drive maker), or just live with it and crack the encryption |
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15:43.07 | tuxick | Luke-Jr: it'd be nice it k3b would warn instead of pretending to handle it |
15:43.13 | tuxick | these things aren't cheap |
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15:47.47 | Luke-Jr | tuxick: it might be nice if k3b had some way to detect it, but I'm not sure detection is possible |
15:48.00 | Luke-Jr | and on the contrary, they certainly are cheap |
15:48.22 | tuxick | only if you don't count in MPAA tax |
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15:50.13 | Luke-Jr | tuxick: I don't think we have MPAA taxes yet |
15:50.20 | tuxick | we do here :) |
15:51.05 | heise2k | tuxick: for some fun you could blame jörg schilling on the cdrecord mailing list :-P |
15:51.12 | tuxick | ah that'd be fun |
15:51.19 | tuxick | remember to add "i'm using linux" |
15:52.32 | Luke-Jr | sue the MPAA for refunds? |
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16:23.36 | pulaski | hello, I just grabbed kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.2.2. The help/panel help menu is says to right click on the panel and and select "add an application". This is not the case when I do it. That submenu option does not exist. Can some one suggest how i can do this? Dragging the app icon from the K start imenu won't put the icon in the panel. |
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16:25.46 | TMKCodes_ | pulaski: So you want to add item to the app menu? |
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16:27.09 | pulaski | TMKCodes_: thanks for responding. I setup a new panel on the right side of my screen and I'm trying to add icons for applications to it and I'm having not luck. |
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16:28.15 | TMKCodes_ | pulaski: and pulling them to the panel does not work, for me works at least. |
16:28.26 | TMKCodes_ | ? |
16:29.13 | pulaski | TMKCodes_: Yes that worked for me with the default panel on the bottom of the screen but not on the panel I want them, on the right side of the screen. |
16:29.31 | TMKCodes_ | hmm.. let me try |
16:29.44 | TMKCodes_ | heh, seems so. |
16:29.59 | TMKCodes_ | Might be that you can only add widgets to it |
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16:30.13 | pulaski | Help says to right click on the new panel and select "add application" but when I do that there is no "add application" menu option. |
16:30.21 | tuxick | Luke-Jr: btw, looks like k9copy simply does the job |
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16:32.43 | el_barto_ | how can set the permisions of solid ?? |
16:32.45 | pulaski | TMKCodes_: does your right click on the panel offer an "add appliction" option? |
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16:33.03 | TMKCodes_ | pulaski: No. :/ |
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16:33.12 | TMKCodes_ | only add widget |
16:33.20 | pulaski | yes |
16:33.43 | el_barto_ | why 'solid-network listdevices' says that have 0 entries?? |
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16:34.25 | pulaski | TMKCodes_: I imagine one way to do it is some kind of standard or custom widget that does that but none are included. |
16:34.43 | TMKCodes_ | pulaski: might be. |
16:35.02 | pulaski | TMKCodes_: Do you know how I can create my own widgets? |
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16:35.27 | TMKCodes_ | pulaski: No i dont. |
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16:37.06 | el_barto_ | why 'solid-network listdevices' as root says that have 0 entries?? ideas ? |
16:37.13 | pulaski | It would be a simple matter of a script that is a simple command. Then the problem arises to make the script a widget icon and all. That's how I figure. I'll look around how to do that. Thanks anyway for your help. |
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16:40.31 | el_barto_ | why 'solid-network listdevices' as root says that have 0 entries?? ideas ? |
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16:48.02 | el_barto_ | why 'solid-network listdevices' as root says that have 0 entries?? ideas ? |
16:48.18 | aseigo | because HAL isn't seeing them? |
16:48.45 | el_barto_ | how can solve that? |
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16:51.09 | DeadTreeHugger | hi, how does someone add a new holiday set to be used in the clock plasmoid calendar? |
16:51.32 | DeadTreeHugger | using 4.3b2 in Kubuntu right now |
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17:01.03 | rethus | i search for a plugin: Mark adress on webpage with mouse... insert in kadress.. and karess should sort the lines automaticly as new contact into the fields (means... string with @ must be email etc.) |
17:03.32 | fawx | When I try to start Akonadi, I get an error message saying that the MySQL server log contains errors |
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17:09.16 | imc | again the collision problem with gcc from 4.3.3 to 4.3.3-r2 |
17:09.25 | imc | uff |
17:09.30 | imc | what should i do? |
17:09.37 | AbsTradELic | r2 ? |
17:09.45 | imc | i mean.. yep |
17:09.46 | drantin | gentoo versioning |
17:09.54 | drantin | it's a revision of the install script |
17:09.54 | imc | drantin: that's an answer? |
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17:10.00 | drantin | that's what -r2 is |
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17:10.09 | imc | drantin: i know .. and then? |
17:10.21 | drantin | imc: AbsTradELic was asking about it :P |
17:10.24 | imc | ah ok |
17:10.27 | pinotree | (ask in the distro channel?) |
17:10.46 | imc | ups |
17:10.56 | imc | i was pretty sure being in that distro channel |
17:10.58 | imc | very sorry then |
17:10.58 | AbsTradELic | aH... 4.3.3 (gcc release) |
17:11.03 | AbsTradELic | X:P |
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17:46.02 | sjzzalx | Helllo. How may I connect to a caldav resource wiht korganizer |
17:46.15 | noizze | I the past I've loved konqueror for FTP, but with this stupid auto-hide feature it's unuseable now. There's still now way to turn it off? |
17:46.20 | sjzzalx | oh my good news |
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17:49.32 | marquinos | Hi! :) I have a question, please. Where's the translations (.mo files) in KDE? (By example in GNOME is in /usr/share/locale-langpack/) THANKS! |
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17:50.45 | pinotree | $(kde4-config --prefix)/share/locale/<langcode>/LC_MESSAGES |
17:50.54 | pinotree | marquinos: â |
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17:51.32 | marquinos | pinheiro, I don't undertand $(kde4-config --prefix) |
17:51.34 | marquinos | :O |
17:51.46 | marquinos | is it my home /home/my/kde4-config/share/locale....? |
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17:52.27 | pinotree | it is the global kde prefix, and can be your local ~/.kde(4) directory |
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17:52.40 | pinotree | (and i'm not pinheiro) |
17:53.12 | marquinos | sorry :P the tab key! :P |
17:53.19 | marquinos | THANKS very much pinotree |
17:53.19 | marquinos | :D |
17:53.21 | max_gentoo_64 | in kde4 what component is responsible for impacting non qt applications? example: if I run a GTK app does it get wrapped/loaded differently running inside KDE desktop? |
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17:56.46 | sjzzalx | I've learned that caldav is not supported in akonadi and therefore korganizer until 4.3 thanks a lot you guys |
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17:58.13 | marko_d | max_gentoo_64: gtk-qt engine |
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17:59.23 | max_gentoo_64 | marko_d: yes, but lets say I do not use gtk-qt-engine, why is it that KDE doesn't use .gtkrc-2.0 ??? KDE obviously does something? |
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18:05.30 | marko_d | max_gentoo_64: you have .gtkrc-2.0 ? |
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18:06.04 | wubrgamer | will konqueror ever switch to webkit? |
18:06.11 | wubrgamer | is that the plan? |
18:06.54 | max_gentoo_64 | marko_d: yep, lets say I want KDE to not "disturb" my gtk configs, which on gentoo is .gtkrc-2.0 why does KDE not respect that? does it do something special? what component is responsible for this? |
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18:07.22 | marko_d | i think it should be sourced |
18:07.29 | marko_d | by something |
18:07.43 | marko_d | at least that's what gtk-qt engine does |
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18:09.17 | marko_d | max_gentoo_64: also, install 2switch |
18:09.44 | marko_d | it is a small theme switcher for gtk2 |
18:10.30 | reavertm | gtk-chtheme is better (and it's fixed in gentoo to export style actually....) |
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18:15.03 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
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18:16.45 | sandsmark | _pepo_: sup dawg |
18:17.44 | _pepo_ | Ive purchased a laptop... please, How do I use the same configuration of Kontact in the two systems? |
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18:55.34 | loxs | hi folks. I have my desktop background set up to switch randomly between wallpapers in a directory. Is there some way to query kde (via dbus or whatever) to tell me which file is it showing at the moment? |
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19:01.23 | swafnir | hi everbody - can anyone help me to set the preview with dolphin greater than 100mb? |
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19:01.33 | maniel | hi |
19:01.56 | Shaan7 | loxs: well, afaik there isn't a way for that. please file a bug report at bugs.kde.org as a feature request |
19:02.13 | maniel | i'm using kde 4.2.4 in kubuntu 9.04 x86_64 and i have some issues with plasma |
19:02.43 | Shaan7 | swafnir: not getting you, please clarify what is meant by " preview with dolphin greater than 100mb?"? |
19:03.09 | maniel | the letters disappear from panels, including taskbar labels and clok |
19:03.17 | maniel | *lok |
19:03.44 | Shaan7 | maniel: can you please provide a screenshot ? |
19:03.53 | maniel | *clock* [breadcrumbs under C key;/] |
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19:04.20 | swafnir | Shaan7 The file preview funktion in the dolphin filemanager, the biggest setting it was possible is 100MB for this feature |
19:04.32 | maniel | Shaan7: nope, already restarted plasma, but i'll remember top shoot one if it happens |
19:04.54 | swafnir | with nautilus under gnome for example 4gb is possible |
19:04.56 | maniel | the menu looks weird too after it happens |
19:04.57 | Shaan7 | maniel: ok, maybe a temporary problem |
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19:05.38 | maniel | letters disappear after few hours of using, in some kde session i have to restart plasma several times |
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19:06.06 | Shaan7 | maniel: ok, take a screenshot and report on bugs.kde.org it'll be helpful |
19:06.14 | maniel | and it happened for me on opensuse with kde 4.3 svn builds |
19:06.37 | murrant | did knotify4 get removed from kde in 4.3? |
19:07.04 | Shaan7 | swafnir: most probably you can't do it thats why the option isn't there ... not sure though |
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19:13.18 | swafnir | Shaan7 : maybe , but its frustrative. So i must use gnome-filemanger under kde to use my favorite feature. |
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19:14.20 | Shaan7 | swafnir: yep, its sad. It'll be very nice you file a bug at bugs.kde.org so that the developers can improve on the feature. Thanks :) |
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19:16.43 | swafnir | Shaan7 of course |
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19:18.02 | swafnir | thx trying to help me |
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19:19.52 | patrick-fedora | Does cedega work on KDE? |
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19:20.31 | loxs | patrick-fedora, cedega has nothing to do with the desktop environment... (in other words, yes) |
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19:20.44 | patrick-fedora | It wont work |
19:20.45 | patrick-fedora | :O |
19:21.27 | loxs | patrick-fedora, you say that it starts in other desktop environments but not in kde? |
19:21.49 | loxs | that's very unlikely and weird |
19:22.41 | patrick-fedora | I just whas qr |
19:22.43 | patrick-fedora | nvm. |
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19:36.44 | mcgreg | sry might be off topic ... is there a html editor for kde .. or even part of it? I believe I saw one .. some time aho |
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19:53.05 | mollach | mcgreg: try quanta |
19:54.58 | mcgreg | hmm yeah I guess I thought of that one , thx |
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19:56.06 | reavertm | konqueror, krusader |
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20:13.09 | javi | reavertm: thanks |
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20:52.05 | Dhraakellian | what's the difference between kdenews.org and dot.kde.org? |
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21:02.44 | Half-Left | Dhraakellian: Looks like the same site, different addresses |
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21:26.31 | max_gentoo_64 | ok so I used "strace" to debug my problem, in KDE 4.2.90 (also 88 and 89) whenever I run GTK apps (non qt I guess) I randomly get a "crash" or the app just disappear, which ends with either a SIGABRT or a SIGSEGV |
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21:38.45 | Half-Left | max_gentoo_64: Didn't you know? 4.3 disables GTK apps by default :p |
21:38.57 | max_gentoo_64 | Half-Left: :) |
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21:54.36 | ralesk | anyone here compile their KDE from sources? |
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21:57.55 | Half-Left | Yep |
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21:59.50 | ralesk | ever had an issue with most (though not all) plasma themes, that they show up broken, typically only the borders visible? :) |
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22:03.51 | ralesk | 'cause that's what's been happening to me since 4.2.85, and things like 4.2.70 were fine :/ and I don't know what's wrong |
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22:04.36 | ralesk | the only theme that works is Aya |
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22:20.35 | romullo | hello... |
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22:21.10 | romullo | was IRC support in kopete abandoned? |
22:21.27 | romullo | kde 4.2 |
22:21.50 | tsimpson | it was in 4.0.0, because no one was able to maintain it |
22:22.00 | pusling | I think "abandoned" is a hard word, but "currently not working/available/maintained" is better. |
22:22.37 | romullo | i agree... that's what i mean :) |
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22:26.19 | Z_God | I'm using cu in Konsole to connect to a dell poweredge server |
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22:26.34 | Z_God | does anyone know how to send 'esc'? |
22:30.38 | kdepepo | romullo, konversion is ported to KDE4. |
22:30.51 | kdepepo | romullo, konversation I mean :) |
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22:32.27 | romullo | kdepepo: i like quassel =), but i like much more to keep gtalk, msn and irc accounts on an only place ;) |
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22:33.04 | romullo | kdepepo: anyway, thanks =) |
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22:35.08 | peterius | how do you get an application to startup at a particular position? Desktop Entry specification says nothing about window position |
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22:35.18 | downs | hi |
22:35.24 | downs | I can't start any X11 applications. |
22:35.38 | downs | gdb indicates they hang in a libICE call. |
22:36.16 | downs | (somewhere below _IceTransRead) |
22:36.32 | ralesk | http://pastebin.ca/1455929 -- hmm, I've been getting this with kdebase-runtime since 4.2.89 I believe... same with 4.2.90 :( |
22:36.45 | downs | 3.5.10 here. |
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22:39.16 | fawx | When I use the bespin window decoration, why does the bespin border for the GTK windows look so different from the decoration to the QT4 windows? |
22:39.16 | downs | sorry |
22:39.22 | downs | turns out killing dcopserver is not a good idea. |
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22:39.41 | downs | well, restarting KDE seems to solve the issues temporarily |
22:39.48 | downs | but that's obviously not a longterm solution |
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22:45.09 | joshuajtl | hi, does anyone know if its possible to get google apps, and gmail to fully work in konqueror stable? |
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22:48.07 | Half-Left | joshuajtl: If Google supported Konqueror, yeah. |
22:48.38 | joshuajtl | yeah, i realize its a google/gmail problem, but unfortunately it affects me |
22:49.21 | ralesk | joshuajtl â hmm, well, masquerading as a Firefox tends to work for me pretty often |
22:49.22 | Half-Left | Email Google then |
22:49.45 | ralesk | worst case add a ?ui=1 to the URL and enjoy the previous AJAX Gmail... |
22:49.47 | jelly-home | hi, how can I a) disable icon showing in the task manager, b) make it only show the windows/apps from the current workspace? |
22:49.49 | joshuajtl | ralesk: yeah partially, stuff like calendar gadget does work etc |
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22:50.31 | Half-Left | Google doesn't supoprt Konqueror or Opera |
22:50.35 | Half-Left | support* |
22:50.59 | joshuajtl | yeah but it works in opera |
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22:52.11 | pinotree | jelly-home: for b) right click on an empty place in the taskbar widget â task bar settings â [x] show only the applications in the current desktop |
22:52.15 | Half-Left | That's not the point |
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22:52.56 | mokoloko | Konqueror's html5 video tag goodness will make into 4.3? |
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22:53.36 | joshuajtl | huh looks like using firefox as browser id is working now... wasnt yesterday |
22:53.43 | joshuajtl | well for web app stuff in gmail |
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22:54.53 | Half-Left | Well, there's your answer, they don't supoprt konqueor |
22:55.35 | jelly-home | pinotree: thanks! |
22:55.38 | Half-Left | What is it with me and the word support tonight |
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22:56.51 | tertitten | in kde4x is it possible to make the taskbar show application icons only ? the applications/windows buttons takes far to much space for my personal taste, 3 apps running and the taskbar is full allready, don't like it at all :) |
22:57.18 | joshuajtl | yes |
22:57.24 | joshuajtl | with stasks plasma |
22:57.35 | joshuajtl | i use it |
22:58.03 | tertitten | where do I find it ? |
22:58.12 | joshuajtl | what distro? |
22:58.32 | tertitten | fedora11 |
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22:59.28 | khaije|amalt | f11 is very nice |
22:59.44 | tertitten | yep |
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23:01.21 | joshuajtl | khaije|amalt: I love it |
23:01.27 | joshuajtl | feels really solid |
23:01.39 | mokoloko | tertitten: search for stasks with kpackagekit |
23:01.54 | tertitten | ok, thanks |
23:01.59 | mokoloko | yeah f11 is very good |
23:02.08 | khaije|amalt | i'm typically more of a debian guy but i must admit i'm impressed (though they could still do with more cross-polination imho) |
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23:02.44 | joshuajtl | khaije|amalt: with gnome/kde you mean? |
23:03.29 | mokoloko | i like the fact that fedora actually updates software offically instead through some half-assed backport repos |
23:03.50 | khaije|amalt | joshuajtl: i'm thinking more under-the-hood stuff, like aptitude, etc. |
23:04.16 | khaije|amalt | i like they are both moving toward supporting both services _and_ /etc/init.d/* |
23:04.27 | khaije|amalt | little things like that are nice to see |
23:04.30 | mokoloko | sure new versions could introduce bugs but then again they fix old ones and brings additional functionality |
23:04.32 | joshuajtl | oh i like yum a lot |
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23:10.18 | Half-Left | kpackagekit doesn't support yum very well. it doesn't remove deps very well and gets duplicated services trying to start, that's my main gripe. |
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23:13.43 | tertitten | I agree |
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23:14.50 | joshuajtl | yeah I'm not fond of kpackagekit... just use cli |
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23:23.18 | joshuajtl | hmm konqueror icon in taskbar is kinda lame |
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23:35.08 | Twilo | hello, i have problems with crachs when I click on the clock in the sys tray, move the clock; when I click again on the clock in the sys tray then crached kwin kde 4.2.4. I have then no taskbar, no background image, no widgets, etc. only ALT & TAB works :-( |
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23:37.29 | Twilo | what do I have to do that i can use my kde again? |
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23:39.12 | cghislai | Twilo: plasma crashed. you can start it again by launching plasma-desktop |
23:39.20 | cghislai | try pressing alt+f2 |
23:39.21 | ralesk | Twilo â does Alt+F2 (krunner) work? |
23:39.30 | ralesk | if it does, run plasma-desktop there |
23:39.36 | Twilo | yes |
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23:40.36 | cghislai | Twilo: and you should probably report a bug if no one exists yet |
23:40.37 | Twilo | there is no plasma-desktop |
23:40.46 | cghislai | just press enter :) |
23:40.50 | ralesk | then just plasma |
23:43.24 | Twilo | no effect |
23:43.44 | ralesk | usually takes a while for it to start up |
23:45.12 | Twilo | still without an effect |
23:47.02 | cghislai | type konsole, and in the konsole: 'locate plasma | grep bin' |
23:48.37 | Fester^ | Probably should check to see if it's running still, doubt a replacement will start if it detects it as already running |
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23:51.48 | Twilo | when i start plasma on the console I got this error message http://nopaste.debianforum.de/22197 in a debug window |
23:52.12 | joshuajtl | I accidentally deleted home.desktop from /home/me/Desktop/ can i recreate it/ |
23:52.14 | joshuajtl | ? |
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23:55.28 | joshuajtl | nm |
23:56.32 | cghislai | Twilo: waw, report the bug, maybe to your distro it seems a packaging issue |
23:56.45 | cghislai | did you upgraded recently? |
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23:59.30 | Twilo | cghislai: i have the problem with "move clock" in kde 4.2 from the outset |