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00:01.57 | bobbob1016 | I can't seem to disable the drum sounding noises when I press buttons, I've gone into system settings, but I can't find the setting. Any ideas? |
00:02.38 | pinotree | system settings â notifications â notifications â applications |
00:03.04 | bobbob1016 | pinotree: I did that, disabled all sounds, but I still get them when I press buttons |
00:03.19 | pinotree | which application in? |
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00:04.09 | bobbob1016 | At the moment Deluge's Settings do it, but I know there are other places that do it too |
00:04.23 | bobbob1016 | Tucan does it too |
00:05.06 | bobbob1016 | Firefox 3.5 too |
00:05.32 | bobbob1016 | It seems like it only does in the menus though. |
00:05.46 | pinotree | well |
00:06.13 | pinotree | none of them is a kde application, so you most probably need some gtk/gnome control panel application/module to set them |
00:07.25 | bobbob1016 | Any idea where I could get that? I mean deluge and tucan might not be common, but Firefox 3.5 is and I'd think that would be a common thing people want done |
00:08.24 | pinotree | i'm afraid you need to ask in #gnome |
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00:10.03 | bobbob1016 | I switched from gnome to kde a few weeks ago, so I still have it installed. I don't remember having those sounds in gnome though. So I should ask them what I use to get rid of apply/ok drum noises? |
00:11.12 | pinotree | yep |
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00:13.01 | bobbob1016 | pinotree: I found it. I actually have gnome-do still running. I opened it typed "sound" ran the Sound thing with a giant Speaker, went to the second tab, and disabled play sounds. Thanks, wouldn't have thought it was a gnome thing still. |
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00:24.37 | oneforall | hmm even delete right clikcing on a folder in the tree isn't there wh |
00:26.32 | oneforall | hmm not even in the top menu under Edit or anythign. seems the only way is in the content window (column or what ever the name for it ) |
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00:51.48 | imc | kde-4.2.4: konqueror does not remember "focus searchbar" custom shortcut... i think it's a bug |
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00:57.27 | yao_ziyuan | better add an "add panel" menu item in the upper right corner control |
00:58.18 | yao_ziyuan | because in a Folder View desktop, there is no right-click menu to add a panel, and if the only panel is deleted, there is no easy way to add a panel |
00:58.21 | oneforall | that to me ? |
00:58.26 | yao_ziyuan | no |
00:58.46 | yao_ziyuan | o no, there is. |
00:59.05 | yao_ziyuan | ignore my comment. |
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00:59.46 | oneforall | there a way for now to add those to the right click in konq on the tree folders? |
01:00.05 | oneforall | delete,rename etc |
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02:02.46 | Xanadu | tpocra: SystemSettings --> Keyboard & Mouse --> Mouse. The bottom area on the right. |
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02:20.49 | yt2005 | KDE is awesome (KDE 4.2.4, Fedora 11) |
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02:24.13 | tpocra | amen yt2005 (KDE 4.2.4, Debian unstable) |
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02:30.52 | shadeslayer | just need to point a error at this link.. http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/desktop.php |
02:31.05 | shadeslayer | anyone interested? |
02:32.36 | shadeslayer | the video below the " Desktop configuration " is of KDE 4.3 |
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02:43.10 | oneforall | whats the wishlist url again debug.kde.org doesn't work net .. |
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02:44.36 | oneforall | nm bugs.kde.org |
02:49.27 | oneforall | hey what would you suggest to put in the bug/wish search for first starting kde4 for use default or custom setup . kde3 and down always has where you could customise most at the start . |
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03:13.25 | yao_ziyuan | can't set root's kde 4.3 rc2 mouse icon theme |
03:13.35 | yao_ziyuan | using: su -, systemsettings |
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03:15.31 | oneforall | kdesu ? |
03:16.52 | krelian | hi. if you are using the kdesvn-build script, can you please tell me how long a clean build takes you? |
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03:18.09 | oneforall | kdesvn-build this to make the src packages ? |
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03:21.24 | oneforall | hmm few crashes konq, panel bg , feels like kde is sutting down |
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03:21.33 | ondarun | is there a way to add "print file" to the context menu in dolphin? |
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03:24.21 | oneforall | ah crap was so nice to see konq ask if I wanted to restore session. But this time it didn't :( |
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03:25.26 | oneforall | oh nv it did but for some reason it was shrunk to a small icon size and opened a new one. |
03:25.28 | ondarun | someone know if there is a way to edit the contex menue from dolphin? |
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03:26.44 | oneforall | darn that ones taking a long time to refresh moving from tab to tab |
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03:45.23 | nbetcher | Hello |
03:46.05 | nbetcher | Anyone have an idea what exactly going on with the NetworkManager applet for plasma in trunk? When I try to add it plasma crashes with: "arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect, assertion "_dbus_check_is_valid_path (path)" failed in file dbus-message.c line 1074." |
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03:50.21 | oneforall | hmm has the restore on a crash , but not when you click on the x . |
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03:58.36 | tpocra | When I close the screen on my laptop it is set to lock it but not suspend |
03:58.50 | tpocra | I get this KDE sound i want to turn off when this happens |
03:58.59 | tpocra | I cannot find it in notifications, however. |
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04:03.05 | oneforall | how can I close konq with a bunch of tabs open ,so it opens them again. But not allways. Just that time or only when you close it |
04:11.28 | oneforall | konq is sure sluggish , But refreshing too . kde4 |
04:11.44 | yao_ziyuan | which file does systemsettings write settings to? |
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04:19.19 | oneforall | darn I need to restart konq but how can Inhave it resume the pages I have open or how can I crash it. would kill -9 do and have it ask if I want to restore |
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04:23.12 | oneforall | -devel |
04:23.21 | oneforall | that did it kill -9 #pid :) |
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05:33.52 | kickar | hey guys where can I find the icon of show desktop plasmoid? i need to replace it with another one :) |
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05:42.47 | fbvortex | I'm on KDE 3.5.10 and having a problem where windows and programs are still working and I can move the mouse cursor, but X isn't responding to keystrokes (except for switching VTs) or mouse clicks. Can I ssh in and kill kwin and restart it without killing my whole KDE session? |
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05:42.54 | Estagus_ | hi all |
05:43.02 | fbvortex | I am running sshd on the machine |
05:43.07 | Estagus_ | who knows. krfb in kde 4.2.4 usable? |
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05:45.36 | Estagus_ | I start it, allow to connect with password. then use client from other comp (tightvnc as example). I can connect, but my screen image "doubled with offset to right" and I can't do anything. |
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05:49.12 | fbvortex | the answer to my question is: yes one can do what I was asking and have the KDE session stay up. I apparently hit a bug in kwin . |
05:49.38 | fbvortex | now to reward myself with a listen to "Cemetery Gates". later all. |
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05:53.34 | kickar | can someone tell me where the plasmoid icons are located? |
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06:18.54 | kickar | hey anyone have an idea on how to change the show desktop plasmoid icon ? |
06:19.21 | kickar | or anyone here runs mac osx like kde4 ? |
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06:33.15 | Nameless_au | hi. i've d/led a few kdm4 themes from kde-look.org. i go to login manager, install theme and no matter what file i refer to, it says it's not a valid kdm theme. what am i doing wrong? |
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06:50.04 | ultrav1olet | after watching video in the dragon part of Konqueror, Konqueror lost mouse cursor. How can I make it visible without restarting Konqueror? |
06:50.35 | ultrav1olet | This situation drives me mad |
06:50.37 | thiago_home | fix dragonplayer |
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06:50.58 | xineohp | Hello. |
06:52.26 | ultrav1olet | thiago_home: you must be joking, I'm a user, not a developer! |
06:52.40 | thiago_home | I'm not |
06:52.46 | ultrav1olet | any ideas how to restore the mouse cursor? |
06:52.50 | thiago_home | you don't really expect every bug to have a workaround, do you? |
06:52.58 | ultrav1olet | :'( |
06:53.04 | thiago_home | you've already found a workaround (close konqueror) |
06:53.33 | xineohp | Can someone help me with the installation of kde4 on a linuxmint7 computer? |
06:54.22 | fhein | ultrav1olet: using latest KDE4? |
06:55.16 | ultrav1olet | 4.2.4 |
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06:57.03 | fhein | dunno, but it might be fixed in a newer one? I've also tried getting help with bugs etc but everybody's like "get the latest version.. if it's still there go to bugs.kde.org" :P |
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07:01.15 | ajnr | Hi all, Hi, All I am not getting the networkmanager icon in KDE,How to solve? I am using KDE of Fedora11 |
07:01.19 | xineohp | Anyone able to help me? |
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07:01.56 | ultrav1olet | xineohp: don't ask to ask, just ask |
07:02.23 | ajnr | Sorry for repeating |
07:02.51 | xineohp | What I'm basically do is trying to install kde4 for my linuxmint 7 computer and do not know where to start. |
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07:03.16 | xineohp | I'm in a crap situation. |
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07:05.32 | fhein | xineohp: do you have gnome or something else installed atm? |
07:05.52 | fhein | or is it a text only installation |
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07:07.28 | Nameless_au | where do you change usplash in kde4? |
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07:07.38 | Nameless_au | cant find it anywhere |
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07:08.03 | Nameless_au | usplash, not bootsplash |
07:08.10 | Jucato | Nameless_au: usplash is not part of kde. please ask in your distro's channel |
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07:08.23 | Nameless_au | Jucato: my apologies |
07:08.29 | Jucato | np |
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07:08.59 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
07:09.03 | Jucato | (and usplash is a bootsplash) |
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07:12.03 | oneforall | wow weird in kde4 my qemu-system-x86_64 opens up huge off screen a bit compared to kde3 |
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07:15.58 | szal | wth.. the info plasmoid in the tray eats 50 % CPU time when showing while data transfer is going on.. |
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07:16.52 | spirov92 | how do I reset all settings for Kate? |
07:16.54 | MercurialAlchemi | What happened to activities in 4.3? |
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07:17.27 | spirov92 | MercurialAlchemi: what activities? |
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07:17.47 | MercurialAlchemi | in 4.2, you had plasma activities, which were groups of plasmoids |
07:18.03 | MercurialAlchemi | I don't think many people were using this feature, though |
07:18.09 | MercurialAlchemi | seems to be gone now |
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07:19.00 | xineohp__ | Can someone help me with the installation of kde4 on a linuxmint7 computer? |
07:19.03 | spirov92 | MercurialAlchemi: yeah, those seem to be gone |
07:19.29 | spirov92 | xineohp__: well, in the package manager, there should be a kde 4 package group |
07:19.31 | MercurialAlchemi | shame there's nothing to pin a widget to a particular destkop to make up for it, then |
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07:20.33 | xineohp__ | spirov92: I just do not know where to start at exactly. |
07:20.54 | spirov92 | xineohp__: in YaST on openSUSE, if you right-click on the package group and choose "install all", it installs only the basic kde4 packages |
07:21.12 | szal | spirov92: invalid comparison :P |
07:21.18 | xineohp__ | spirov92: But I'm using "LinuxMint7" though. |
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07:21.40 | szal | xineohp__: ask in the Linux Mint channel; distro-specific packaging is off-topic here :) |
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07:22.45 | xineohp__ | szal: I thought this would install on almost any linux version if I downloaded it off the "main website". |
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07:24.23 | szal | xineohp__: really no need to do that if distro pkgs are available.. after all KDE itself don't offer binaries iirc; you'd need to compile the source, and for that there are instructions on the site if I'm not mistaken |
07:25.08 | xineohp__ | szal: I got the source, just don't know how to compile it right. |
07:25.41 | xineohp__ | The distro things ("the simple way") isn't working out for me (Really complicated situation here). |
07:26.09 | cookiemon5ter | xineohp__: what are ye trying do do ? |
07:26.33 | cookiemon5ter | to do * |
07:26.58 | xineohp__ | cookiemon5ter: Basically install kde4. Most of the other tools I'm using on the computer is failing me, so I decided to go by using source. |
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07:27.55 | cookiemon5ter | you can't install kde with linux mint ? |
07:28.27 | xineohp__ | cookiemon5ter: Nope, the easy features isn't doing it for me. |
07:28.56 | cookiemon5ter | i don't even know what linux mint is |
07:29.25 | spirov92 | cookiemon5ter: it's a Linux distro, obviously :) |
07:29.25 | xineohp__ | cookiemon5ter: Another kind of linux, made from Ubuntu basically. |
07:29.31 | cookiemon5ter | is it a source based distro ? |
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07:30.04 | xineohp__ | Based on ubuntu which is based on debian. |
07:30.12 | thiago_home | xineohp__: then install the binary packages that come with that distribution. |
07:30.23 | cookiemon5ter | i'd say install gentoo and emerge kde-meta |
07:30.29 | szal | cookiemon5ter: Mint 7 goes on top of *buntu Jaunty |
07:30.37 | oneforall | I think he said he did but things don't work well |
07:31.04 | szal | according to their website the Jaunty repos are compatible |
07:31.04 | cookiemon5ter | so you can apt-get install kde-meta ? |
07:31.04 | thiago_home | then either fix, or build yourself, or use another distro |
07:31.07 | xineohp__ | Not even apt-get works. |
07:31.19 | thiago_home | how do you install programs on mint? |
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07:31.24 | cookiemon5ter | xineohp__: look in synaptics or w.e it is |
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07:32.15 | xineohp__ | I ether use apt-get, or download those "make my life easy .mint/.deb" files. |
07:32.26 | xineohp__ | But in this situation. I can't. |
07:32.34 | cookiemon5ter | xineohp__: I've used gen2 for many moons i don't know how these other distros work :( |
07:32.47 | szal | xineohp__: why can't you? |
07:33.30 | xineohp__ | szal: I'm getting many "connection refuse" errors. That is why. |
07:33.31 | cookiemon5ter | but still being based on bunters why can;t ye use aptitude or apt-gets ? |
07:33.33 | thiago_home | xineohp__: so the servers aren't working |
07:33.36 | thiago_home | xineohp__: try again later |
07:33.55 | xineohp__ | thiago: This has been going on for "hours". |
07:33.56 | szal | xineohp__: or use other mirrors |
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07:34.19 | cookiemon5ter | xineohp__: this happens when using free software ;) |
07:34.33 | szal | lack of mirrors can't be a problem w/ *buntu repos |
07:34.41 | cookiemon5ter | servers go down for maintenance just use another server |
07:34.41 | thiago_home | xineohp__: then wait more hours |
07:34.43 | thiago_home | two days even |
07:35.01 | thiago_home | or use other servers, like cookiemon5ter said |
07:35.23 | cookiemon5ter | in gentoo we have the noble mirrorselect program |
07:35.46 | xineohp__ | No matter what I try, everything is connection refused, so I came here in hopes that I can learn how to cmake the source files so things can finally get installed. |
07:35.51 | thiago_home | mandriva has a mirror selecting too |
07:36.09 | thiago_home | xineohp__: if you want to compile from sources, look for the tutorials in techbase.kde.org |
07:36.25 | cookiemon5ter | mandriva is the shiznix I liked the livecd :) |
07:36.29 | thiago_home | have you installed the packages necessary for compiling already (cmake, c++ build tools, the KDE dependencies)? |
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07:37.25 | thiago_home | if you haven't yet, you'll need to install them before proceeding |
07:37.52 | xineohp__ | thiago_home: Is there a list for that? That tells me exactly? |
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07:49.17 | oneforall | xineohp__ dunno about linux mini but I'd say there page should have a section saying where allt eh conmpiling tools are |
07:49.41 | oneforall | gcc,cmake,automake,perl............... |
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07:51.02 | intok | how buggy is the windows port of KDE at this time? |
07:51.37 | pinotree | intok: should not be that much... better ask in #kde-windows for more details |
07:53.54 | oneforall | whats versions of windows does that work in ? |
07:54.17 | oneforall | whoops lag |
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08:01.22 | cookiemon5ter | kde is turning me into an astronomer :S |
08:01.23 | thiago | oneforall: no automake |
08:02.04 | oneforall | no I was just giving a list of compiling tools |
08:02.11 | oneforall | in general |
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08:02.52 | sxe | hi |
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08:13.14 | oneforall | Hey 4.2.96 can you have diffrent desktop bgs etc ? |
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09:08.44 | ZombieBear_ | Mwahahahaha! I've regained the ability to write accented characters and ñ! áéÃóú! |
09:09.18 | MinceR | zombie bears with the ability to write accented characters are the most dangerous of all zombie bears. |
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09:09.42 | ZombieBear_ | Ya. Nothing worst than a gramatically correct ZombieBear |
09:09.57 | ZombieBear_ | Soeey, I meant ZombieBeear⢠|
09:10.13 | ZombieBear_ | Well so much for gramatically correct I guess |
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09:11.55 | ZombieBear_ | ¡Ahora puedo usar signos de exclamación! |
09:12.39 | ZombieBear_ | Lol I'm getting pretty good at finding obscure configuration options. I'm proud of this achievement. |
09:13.05 | ZombieBear_ | The lack of ñ was my only regret in switching to Linux for pthe past 2 years |
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09:13.43 | linopolus | Hi |
09:15.32 | ZombieBear | How long was my nick wrong for? o_O |
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09:16.37 | linopolus | How can I tell kmail to sort the mails with date instead of sender? |
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09:20.15 | annma | linopolus: kde version? |
09:20.30 | linopolus | 4.2 |
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09:21.52 | cisticola | hi, kwifimanager connects to a wireless router ok with no security , however it fails if wpa_psk is enabled on the router. Debian Lenny KDE 3.5.10 |
09:23.08 | cisticola | Whats the most likely culprit |
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09:25.06 | linopolus | annma: KDE4.2 |
09:25.06 | annma | linopolus: on the right of the search line you get icons |
09:25.07 | annma | one is for the sorting options |
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09:26.41 | linopolus | thx |
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09:29.21 | krion | hi |
09:29.54 | krion | i try to raise a windows with dbus, i don't know if i should look with dbus and kwin or dbus and ktorrent |
09:30.38 | Zarin_ | krion, what are you trying to do? |
09:31.01 | Zarin_ | Might want to look at wmctrl or whatever it's called |
09:31.12 | Jucato | it's called... |
09:31.15 | Jucato | "wmctrl" |
09:31.19 | krion | raise the main window of ktorrent (who's on the systray riht now) |
09:31.58 | krion | oh alright i have that in the repository |
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09:32.32 | krion | i was trying to use qdbus and dbus-send |
09:32.46 | krion | but i didn't manage to find the right parameters |
09:32.55 | Jucato | qdbus org.ktorrent.ktorrent /ktorrent/MainWindow_1 show |
09:33.22 | Jucato | note that it depends on the app whether it has something like that. so wmctrl is a more generic solution |
09:33.39 | krion | Jucato: works fine :) |
09:33.48 | krion | Jucato: thanks |
09:33.54 | Jucato | yeah. that will only work for ktorrent alone |
09:33.55 | krion | i'll have a look to wmctrl too |
09:34.15 | Jucato | and dbus calls might change (dunno KTorrent's policy) |
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09:46.33 | caotic | is bluetooth sopose to be somwhere in the "system settings" ? |
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09:50.08 | krion | there is plenty of dbus call :) |
09:50.26 | Xilent | hi, if my firefox ist started before amarok2, amarok2 plays no sounds |
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09:51.53 | Xilent | no hints from results of "lsof | grep pulse" |
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10:01.57 | caotic | Xilent: is firefox using flash at any point ? |
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10:02.00 | krion | qdbus org.ktorrent.ktorrent /core remove 0bf31421e7b4c1c3d563503b1a05575eb0c19803 true |
10:02.03 | krion | sweet ;) |
10:02.36 | kage-ookami | playing with dbus commands? |
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10:04.57 | arossouw | how do you hide application icons , when switching multiple desktops? |
10:05.04 | Xilent | caotic, yes |
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10:05.18 | arossouw | ie. if i'm running applications on desktop window 1, i dont want to see it in desktop window 2 |
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10:06.31 | caotic | Xilent: flash tends to be a f*cktard sometimes with holding sound server hostage |
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10:07.08 | Xilent | i've expected smth like this |
10:07.18 | caotic | Xilent: I use to switch amaroks engine, back at < 2.0 but now I dont know |
10:08.00 | Kebab_Farci | arossouw You can right clik on the tasklist and clik on configure tasklist ==> Check the box : only |
10:08.15 | caotic | try killall -9 firefox amarok; "restart alsa"; start and play amarok, and wile amarok is playing start firefox |
10:08.17 | Kebab_Farci | only display task on the current desktop |
10:08.24 | caotic | Xilent: ^ |
10:08.46 | krion | kage-ookami: yes |
10:08.57 | krion | i control my desktop via ssh :) |
10:09.11 | krion | without vnc or stuff |
10:09.19 | arossouw | sorry, but how do you get tasklist |
10:10.03 | Kebab_Farci | Hm my kde is in french so i tried to translate but i think it's not called task list |
10:10.08 | kage-ookami | arossouw: Alt+F2 and then the second icon with tooltip "Show System Activity" |
10:10.46 | Kebab_Farci | just do a right click where you see your applications running like firefox, dolphin etc... |
10:11.12 | krion | i qdbus command then scrot then open the screenshoot via ssh |
10:11.16 | caotic | krion: please elaborate |
10:12.01 | caotic | kage-ookami: ctl + escape does the same |
10:12.17 | kage-ookami | caotic: nice to know that shortcut then :) |
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10:12.30 | caotic | krion: qdbus, for a second you got me exited there :( |
10:12.31 | Kebab_Farci | when you right click you have 3 choice : remove tasklist , Options for the panel , Configure Tasklist |
10:12.46 | Kebab_Farci | i thing it is called taskmanager or something else in english kde |
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10:13.40 | arossouw | on System Activity, i have Configure window behavior |
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10:14.57 | kage-ookami | is still looking for some MUD client for kde4... |
10:15.02 | arossouw | im using glassified theme |
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10:15.51 | Kebab_Farci | it's in the center part of you panel, do you see the list of your current running applications like firefox, pidgin etc.. ? |
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10:17.21 | arossouw | i see the applications , when i right click on a running process , i have for example send signal, renice process, kill process |
10:17.52 | ebw | when I try to start kde as a user it hangs when it does "System service initialization" in the splash screen thingy. as root it works good. please give some advice, what the mistake could be |
10:18.06 | Kebab_Farci | Hm I mean right click on your panel, not on the system activity |
10:19.29 | Kebab_Farci | when you open firefox for example, you can see at the center of you panel, an item called firefox which add to the other opened applications |
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10:20.46 | Kebab_Farci | you have to right click on the blank part at the right of this new item |
10:20.52 | arossouw | ok, i right click on the panel , then i see Do not allow this program to be grouped |
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10:21.32 | Kebab_Farci | Ah, you right clicked on an item, but you juste have to right clik on the blank part at the right of the item |
10:22.00 | Kebab_Farci | because you want to display the configuration for the taskbar or tasklist (don't know the exact name) |
10:22.13 | kage-ookami | Kebab_Farci: "Taks Manager Settings", "Panel options", "Remove this Task Manager" |
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10:22.31 | arossouw | Kebab_Farci: ah, i get it, managed, thanks |
10:22.56 | Kebab_Farci | kage-ookami i don't agree because it just remove the task manager |
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10:23.20 | Kebab_Farci | arossouw just want to display the tasks of the current desktop in his task manager |
10:23.25 | kage-ookami | Kebab_Farci: those are the 3 optinos if you rightclick on the blank part in an english taskmanager |
10:23.34 | caotic | does anyone know a "practicall" way to remote control mplayer ? using a linux pda, and its hard to type special caracters with a stylus and pretty unpracticall when you miss one |
10:23.41 | Kebab_Farci | yes you must chose the first option |
10:23.48 | Kebab_Farci | configure task manager |
10:24.06 | caotic | guess I can php / dbus something, but not in the mood for developing right now :P |
10:24.16 | Kebab_Farci | a configuration window is appearing and in the filters subsection you have to check the first box |
10:24.33 | Kebab_Farci | display only tasks of the current desktop or something like that |
10:26.05 | arossouw | i must say, the new kde4 is a bit intimidating |
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10:26.30 | Kebab_Farci | yeah but it's really good |
10:26.38 | caotic | arossouw: you'll get use to it :P |
10:26.45 | Kebab_Farci | did you sucess arossouw |
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10:27.21 | arossouw | yes, thank you |
10:27.34 | arossouw | kde4 is great :-) |
10:27.57 | kage-ookami | arossouw: it would be even greater if you can tell me a MUD client that doesn't need kde3.5 libs |
10:28.02 | kage-ookami | ;) |
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10:28.38 | arossouw | i used to stop using kde3 because of performance issues, but its blazing fast now |
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10:28.58 | caotic | arossouw: saddly the "command" I use more is "killall -9 plasma; kdeinit4_wrapper plasma" , right after |
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10:29.52 | kage-ookami | caotic: had a similar problem until I threw out some plasmoids. |
10:29.59 | kage-ookami | no idea which ones, though |
10:30.26 | caotic | arossouw: plasma tends to crash, when runing it for 24/3 |
10:31.14 | caotic | kage-ookami: It crashes like every 3 or 4 days, still, beats the hell of windows explorer :P |
10:31.21 | caotic | kage-ookami: well mabe we have similar plasmoids runing |
10:31.43 | arossouw | caotic: i mostly use the a terminal so, plasma doesnt really help |
10:31.56 | kage-ookami | caotic: oh yea - there is some kind of memory leek, I guess... but I shut down my computer during the night, so its not that much of an issue for me anymore |
10:32.28 | caotic | kage-ookami: right, but if you got two monitors ... and a good vidcard, its just a waste to use only the console :P |
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10:33.01 | kage-ookami | *points to arossouw* theres the console guy. not me. |
10:33.30 | caotic | kage-ookami: rigth, I have that two commands as a script so, whenever I can restart plasma quickly ( it doesnt kill your aplications ) |
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10:38.14 | mofux | hi... what is the irc channel of the dolphin devs? |
10:38.18 | Jucato | caotic: yeah kquitapp won't restart plasma, but it will cleanly quit it using dbus. kill(all) will just kill it senseless :) |
10:38.27 | pinotree | mofux: there's none; what's your question? |
10:38.46 | mofux | no question... a feature request |
10:39.12 | caotic | Jucato: yes plus, let say I kill vim ... jejej if I have a root session using that program I loose my data, |
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10:39.26 | pinotree | mofux: https://bugs.kde.org, or the Brainstorm section in our forum, if you are not familiar with a bug tracking system |
10:39.26 | caotic | Jucato: killall -9 vim :P |
10:39.33 | Jucato | :) |
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10:39.47 | mofux | pinotree: ok, cool |
10:40.03 | mofux | good reason to get a forum account finally ;) |
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10:44.02 | caotic | quick survey just for the shits and giggles, how do you launch your dolphin alt+f2, dolphin, alt+f2 ~, neither; |
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10:47.55 | caotic | is bored, couldnt get any sleep, almost 6 am, can't go to bed now |
10:48.37 | mokoloko | why |
10:49.11 | mokoloko | it feels best to go to sleep when others are waking up :P |
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10:49.40 | caotic | mokoloko: the job thing ... |
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10:50.03 | caotic | If I go to sleep, there is no way I would hear the alarm clock |
10:50.14 | mokoloko | oh then just sleep at work :) |
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10:51.01 | oneforall | whats an alarm clock ? |
10:51.03 | oneforall | :) |
10:51.56 | caotic | oneforall: oh is this webpage that you can set so it blast your speakers at certain time |
10:52.45 | caotic | I dont think there is a reason to own one anymore |
10:52.51 | oneforall | oh the geek clock |
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10:53.41 | oneforall | onborad sound card are the craps for loudness :) |
10:53.55 | oneforall | onborad/onboard |
10:54.18 | oneforall | I can fart louder |
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10:55.01 | caotic | oneforall: well you can always try to wakeonlan at some time and short circuit some usb to shock you at certain time .. |
10:55.18 | caotic | mm I repeat myself |
10:55.35 | caotic | way to much, yeah, today is gonna be an awesome day at work |
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11:01.35 | poppler | what's the en_UK kde locale/language called? |
11:02.21 | annma | British |
11:02.59 | annma | en_GB |
11:03.09 | annma | British English |
11:03.45 | poppler | no I mean the package |
11:03.52 | poppler | something like 10n or 10l |
11:04.12 | poppler | I'm searching it in my distro repositories but don't know the name |
11:04.21 | annma | l10n someting |
11:04.32 | annma | or i18n something |
11:04.53 | poppler | no 18n was the old one I guess |
11:05.13 | annma | you did not tell your version |
11:05.31 | annma | i18n- or l10n- |
11:05.40 | freeedrich| | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internationalization_and_localization |
11:06.38 | poppler | thanks |
11:06.54 | poppler | ok thanks annma, it's kde4.2 by the way |
11:06.59 | poppler | found it |
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11:29.42 | mofux | <PROTECTED> |
11:30.10 | mofux | did i present the idea clear enough to post it on the forums? |
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11:31.19 | oneforall | isn't kde4 supposed to have a popup when you insert a dvd/cd so you can pick how to open it ? default is that darn thunar and it never even asks me . I changed it to konq and now nothing happens |
11:31.38 | annma | mofux: "it's more like links" <- explain |
11:31.47 | annma | it's either links or not |
11:32.18 | oneforall | services isn't even showing it |
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11:33.27 | mofux | annma ... what i meant is that the files won't be copied to the stack, it's softlinks pointing to the files you add there |
11:33.45 | annma | do you know Basket? |
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11:33.52 | mofux | no |
11:33.57 | mofux | does it do that? |
11:33.58 | annma | you should have a look |
11:34.08 | annma | I don't know exactly |
11:34.11 | mofux | does it have dolphin integration? |
11:34.31 | oneforall | even if I try media:/ thats says not supported. isn't that in the konq plugins ? |
11:34.48 | mofux | annma: http://basket.kde.org/ <--- this? |
11:34.57 | annma | how is your filestack different from a folder except it has links? |
11:35.26 | annma | maybe it's not Basket then, it's an app where you can drop stuff in |
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11:35.38 | annma | to keep it at hand |
11:36.15 | oneforall | any idea ? |
11:36.18 | mofux | annma... 1) it's always accessible 2) ever tried to do stuff to files on different locations? it's easy to loose sight |
11:36.38 | mofux | annma: it's kinda the same thing why the "drop stuff to desktop" was so successfull |
11:36.48 | mofux | a place where you can drop things to access them always easily |
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11:37.17 | annma | it's like trash except it links |
11:37.36 | annma | you still have Desktop |
11:37.41 | mofux | i write a mail and want to attach things... then i do "hmm, take this... yeah, maybe that... ah and there, this i want too"... "hmm... but now i want to rar all this... headache" |
11:37.49 | mofux | annma: exactly |
11:37.59 | mofux | like trash |
11:40.03 | mofux | also, sometimes when you have a very large folder and many files in it, it feels unsafe that you by accident deselect all of them... dropping stuff to the file stack will give you that "save" feeling |
11:40.08 | mofux | you know what i mean? |
11:40.31 | mofux | ^and select many files in it |
11:40.33 | mofux | ^sry |
11:41.18 | mofux | you have a folder with 200 files (e.g. photos) and select maybe 35... that's such an unsafe operation for me every time because i have the fear to deselect by accident |
11:41.38 | mofux | so it would be nice to just drag them to a save place |
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11:50.41 | annma | mofux: just add a place in Dolphin |
11:51.00 | annma | as a USB stick or something |
11:51.32 | mofux | but then the content i drag there will be copied? |
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11:52.32 | henshaw | how do I turn off blinking cursors in textfields? |
11:52.49 | annma | I am not sure I see the usa case of links |
11:52.52 | annma | use |
11:53.02 | annma | however I despite links so I might be biased |
11:53.08 | annma | what do you do on links? |
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11:59.00 | annma | mofux: what's yur use case for links versus actual files? |
12:00.12 | mofux | annma... another example... imagine you could save such a stack... when you work on different files in different folders you would always have a quick to reach place where to save links to your files you work an currently |
12:00.50 | mofux | combined with kde's network transparency this would be a very great feature for web devs |
12:01.47 | annma | I don't want links personally |
12:02.01 | mofux | because of the linked nature you would always modify the original source |
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12:02.21 | mofux | for me it would be perfect when working on a big project with many different people on only a limited set of files |
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12:02.37 | annma | uses svn |
12:03.11 | henshaw | that sounds like something for desktop search. semantic whatchacallit. |
12:03.43 | szal | what? SVN? |
12:03.57 | szal | that's short for 'subversion' |
12:04.20 | henshaw | files associated with the active project |
12:07.46 | annma | yup |
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12:31.25 | yao_ziyuan | try to rename a file in kde 4.3 rc2's Folder View desktop |
12:31.35 | yao_ziyuan | in a folder preview pane. |
12:32.10 | yao_ziyuan | the file is automatically renamed to empty, but the file extension is there. |
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12:32.50 | ddhanasekar | how to update my firebox browser to latest version |
12:33.18 | annma | yao_ziyuan: font problem? what language? |
12:33.21 | cb400f | ddhanasekar: that's way off topic.. ask in your distro channel |
12:33.28 | annma | ddhanasekar: ask your distro channel |
12:33.41 | yao_ziyuan | annma: english |
12:33.50 | annma | weird I can rename files |
12:34.09 | cb400f | a subfolder via the preview popup? |
12:34.10 | annma | what is a folder preview pane though? |
12:34.24 | yao_ziyuan | i mean, on the Folder View desktop, if you hover on a folder, a preview window will show its contents, and then you rename a file in that window |
12:34.29 | cb400f | hover over a folder in folderview, which has subfolders.. try to rename the subfolder |
12:34.48 | ddhanasekar | I dont want to update my old firefox to latest version |
12:35.00 | ddhanasekar | sorry |
12:35.19 | yao_ziyuan | it is a file in a subfolder in a subfolder in a folder on the desktop |
12:35.40 | ddhanasekar | I download the latest version of the firebox browser and It wont install |
12:35.53 | pinotree | ddhanasekar: ask in the channel of your distro |
12:35.55 | Jucato | ddhanasekar: Firefox is not a KDE program. please ask in your distro |
12:35.57 | cb400f | there's a good chance your distro has packages |
12:36.07 | cb400f | .. if you ask in the right place |
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13:17.02 | MercurialAlchemi | how do you search by tag in kmail? |
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13:47.21 | mluser-home | Anyone know how to change the default dvd viewing application in device manager? Currently dragon player is the default, I'd like to change that |
13:48.02 | wwalker | is there any way to turn off the "dock" at the bottom of the screen for just one of the workspaces? |
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13:48.45 | MercurialAlchemi | mluser-home: have a look at 'Device actions' in the 'advanced' section of the system settings |
13:50.17 | mluser-home | MercurialAlchemi: thank you |
13:51.22 | mluser-home | MercurialAlchemi: Interestingly I dont have 'Device Actions' in my system settings.. would you happen to know which package provides that? |
13:51.53 | MercurialAlchemi | mluser-home: you are on 4.2? |
13:52.09 | mluser-home | MercurialAlchemi: yes.. 4.2.4 |
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13:52.33 | MercurialAlchemi | mluser-home: ah, just upgraded to 4.3 |
13:52.53 | mluser-home | MercurialAlchemi: hehe, ok.. thanks.. I guess I'll wait then |
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13:58.19 | sabayonweb_14090 | Is there something special I have to do in order to get my 4.2 KDE to boot up on a DVD? I can get my 4.2 gnome to boot up but not my kde |
13:59.05 | sabayonweb_14090 | can any1 please answer that??? |
13:59.25 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: gnome 4.2? interesting |
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14:00.10 | sabayonweb_14090 | do i need to do something in order to get my kde to boot? |
14:00.31 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: Are you trying to make a livecd? |
14:00.34 | Half-Left | What exactly are you asking? |
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14:01.26 | sabayonweb_14090 | yes im trying to make a live cd |
14:02.05 | sabayonweb_14090 | I burned my 4.2 kde to a cd and then when I boot it up it says cannot find kernel:linux |
14:02.20 | Half-Left | Ask a distro channel |
14:02.44 | MercurialAlchemi | doesn't sound KDE-related |
14:02.44 | Half-Left | You can't just put KDE on a dvd and expect it to boot |
14:02.54 | sabayonweb_14090 | what do I have to do? |
14:02.57 | MercurialAlchemi | can't blame it for not booting if it can't find a kernel |
14:03.11 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: what Half-Left said |
14:03.33 | sabayonweb_14090 | so what do I do to make it bootable??? |
14:03.45 | Half-Left | Go google or ask a distrubution channel |
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14:04.10 | sabayonweb_14090 | is it #distrobution |
14:04.14 | sabayonweb_14090 | ? |
14:04.16 | Half-Left | That's a Linux question boot/kernel setup question |
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14:04.21 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: KDE is a desktop environment, not an operating system, you need the rest of the machinery |
14:04.22 | Kraplax | hello |
14:04.37 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: this is way beyond what this channel is intended for |
14:04.43 | sabayonweb_14090 | I'm new to kde |
14:04.59 | sabayonweb_14090 | what is the distrobuton channel??? |
14:05.04 | Half-Left | Then try a distribution that is setup for KDE then |
14:05.11 | Kraplax | does anyone know which application allows SVN up and SVN commits right from the right-click menu of Dolhpin in KDE4? |
14:05.15 | henshaw | sabayonweb_14090: how did you get your gnome thing to boot up? where did you get that from? |
14:05.17 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: what kind of Linux are you using? |
14:05.36 | Josie | Kraplax, None that I know of, but KSvn is pretty good. |
14:06.17 | sabayonweb_14090 | I got my gnome from a mirror site on sabayon.org/mirrors henshaw, and then I used imgbrn to burn it to a disk |
14:06.19 | Kraplax | Josie: i guess i have kdesdk installed, so Update and Commit options are there for svn working copies :/ |
14:06.34 | Kraplax | but i'm not sure if it's about kdesdk |
14:06.41 | sabayonweb_14090 | I'm using 4.2GNOME |
14:06.53 | Kraplax | sabayonweb_14090: O_O |
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14:07.09 | Half-Left | Most lightly kdesdk yes |
14:07.22 | henshaw | sabayonweb_14090: then you need to find irc support for sabayon |
14:07.26 | Josie | Kraplax, I just use ksvn and the terminal client, give it shot? Kdesdk is pretty sweet though. |
14:07.26 | Kraplax | Half-Left: the problem is it's not working properly |
14:07.47 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: this didn't make any sense. Gnome is another desktop environment (like KDE), and its latest version is 2.26 |
14:07.47 | Josie | Kraplax, What's it not doing? |
14:07.48 | Half-Left | Try something like Qsvn |
14:08.19 | Kraplax | Josie: it does commit but it does it somewhat erroneously. |
14:08.32 | Kraplax | it shows the log Message dialog |
14:08.38 | sabayonweb_14090 | Ok, I'm using sabayon 4.2 with GNOME |
14:08.38 | Josie | Kraplax, Aha. What do you mean? |
14:08.41 | Kraplax | but while i was entering the message |
14:09.00 | Josie | sabayonweb_14090, Then I suggest you join #sabayon and ask how to install KDE there. |
14:09.06 | Kraplax | another dialog appeared that told me that commit gone well |
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14:09.25 | Josie | Ah... That is strange. |
14:09.31 | Kraplax | so, it actually ignored my log message and enetered some rubbish as log instead |
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14:09.53 | Kraplax | r997199 |
14:10.31 | Kraplax | so i was acutally wondering what application should i file a buigreport against |
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14:10.34 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: then you need to find sabayon's IRC channel. Sabayon is your Linux distribution |
14:11.25 | Josie | Kraplax, I'm pretty sure that's kdesdk, but I'm not sure why it's committing before you give a log message. |
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14:11.44 | Kraplax | me too :/ |
14:12.02 | Kraplax | trying to find out what app is it |
14:12.07 | Half-Left | Kraplax: Try Qsvn, it's pretty good |
14:12.22 | MercurialAlchemi | Half-Left: Qsvn or ksvn? |
14:12.32 | Half-Left | qsvn is a Qt app |
14:12.34 | sabayonweb_14090 | How do I get my sound to work?!?! |
14:12.36 | Josie | And to follow Half-Left's suggestion, KSvn is pretty good aswell. |
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14:12.45 | Half-Left | I use it, it's works well |
14:12.46 | sabayonweb_14090 | How do I get my sound to work?!?! |
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14:13.01 | Josie | sabayonweb_14090, Please ask a question only once. |
14:13.02 | Kraplax | Half-Left: thanks for tip, but i'd rather use console variant next time. i just want to file a bugreport now. |
14:13.26 | sabayonweb_14090 | Ok Josie |
14:13.38 | sabayonweb_14090 | But do you know the answer to my question??? |
14:13.47 | Half-Left | Or just use konsole part in Dolphin :p |
14:13.53 | Josie | sabayonweb_14090, Also, kde's sound system just tends to work if your soundcard is actually working. So it sounds like it may be a driver issue which is something you need to consult your distribution's channel about. |
14:14.18 | Josie | KDE != Operating System. |
14:14.23 | sabayonweb_14090 | what? |
14:14.32 | Josie | #kde != Operating system support channel |
14:14.56 | Josie | != means not equal to. Haven't you made it to basic algebra yet? |
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14:15.25 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: in other words, #kde is there for support issues specifically related to KDE, nothing else |
14:15.33 | sabayonweb_14090 | No1 pays attention in #Sabayon and ever even types a thing or responds in that channel |
14:16.02 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: see if they have a mailing list? |
14:16.05 | henshaw | I was confused first time I saw "!=". mainly because I don't restrict my handwriting to ascii. |
14:16.06 | Half-Left | Well thats to bad, go to their wiki or haome page then |
14:16.24 | Josie | sabayonweb_14090, Then try forums, newgroups, etc. Regardless of that, we usually don't know how to help you. |
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14:16.27 | Half-Left | Or get a more common better supported Distro |
14:16.44 | Josie | henshaw, I'm a programmer, not a writer. |
14:16.46 | Half-Left | home* |
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14:17.20 | Josie | Yes, (K)ubuntu, Fedora, Debian.. |
14:17.24 | henshaw | Josie: you do all your algebra with a keyboard? |
14:18.09 | Kraplax | Josie: i'm quite sure that != isn't from algebra, but from programming. am i wrong? |
14:18.18 | Josie | henshaw, No, I do most of my algebra with a peice of paper, but I do tend to type naturally. |
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14:18.45 | Josie | Kraplax, Actually = with a slash through it is from algebra, != is the adaptation for standard keyboards. |
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14:18.57 | Kraplax | ah |
14:19.02 | Kraplax | didn't know that |
14:19.05 | Josie | Both mean "Is not equal to" |
14:19.20 | Half-Left | Well use something more laman next time :) |
14:19.23 | Half-Left | layman* |
14:19.27 | Kraplax | it's just that in C the ! sign means NOT |
14:19.48 | tstaerk2 | only Pascal had <> |
14:19.51 | Kraplax | thus != is NOT EQUAL |
14:19.52 | MercurialAlchemi | and many other languages |
14:20.10 | Kraplax | and !X means NOT X |
14:20.41 | Kraplax | so i didn't actually thought of it as of slash adoption |
14:20.52 | Kraplax | ok, thanks everyone who helped |
14:20.57 | Josie | Half-Left, Forgive me, I forget that most people asking questions are probably not the most educated sort. |
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14:21.27 | Half-Left | it's not about being educated, it's about doing it in a way everyone can understand |
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14:21.59 | henshaw | sabayonweb_14090: how long did you wait in #sabayon? sometimes you have to wait hours on low-activity channels. and it might help to have a relatively detailed, constructive question (what you've tried, what error messages you see) to help out the people who're hopefully going to help you. |
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14:22.58 | henshaw | Josie: I often wish we had extensive cheap oled so that I could have a unicode keyboard. |
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14:23.15 | Josie | lol |
14:23.21 | tstaerk2 | sabayonweb_14090, whatever I tried, SUSE, Ubuntu - everything worked out of the box. |
14:23.48 | Josie | So who's ready for 4.3!? |
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14:24.06 | kage-ookami | sure... Almost waiting impatiently for 4.3 |
14:25.13 | Josie | I honestly can't wait. |
14:25.27 | Josie | I know it's gonna take ubuntu forever to put it in the repositories. |
14:25.36 | Josie | goes and adds experimental ppa |
14:25.46 | MercurialAlchemi | part of it is in Debian experimental |
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14:26.23 | Josie | The beta's are in kubuntu-members ppa |
14:27.45 | sabayonweb_14090 | how do i get kde process manager??? |
14:28.05 | MercurialAlchemi | sabayonweb_14090: ctl-escape |
14:29.18 | cb400f | or alt+f2 -> ksysguard for the "full" version |
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14:34.27 | kage-ookami | Josie: that's why I use gentoo with the kde-testing overlay. Unfortunately its not yet stable enough to put on this box I use daily. |
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14:49.47 | poppler | is there a way to use regex'es in okular when searching? |
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14:49.57 | pinotree | poppler: no |
14:50.00 | poppler | :( |
14:50.01 | poppler | ok |
14:50.06 | poppler | no workaround even? |
14:50.10 | pinotree | no |
14:50.19 | poppler | :ì( |
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14:51.20 | poppler | I guess I'll have to copy paste the text into kate and use that |
14:51.59 | poppler | oh there's export as plain text |
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15:19.44 | milian | are pdf previews in konqueror / dolphin not working anymore? |
15:19.53 | milian | just tested in debian, doesn't show any preview |
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15:22.06 | Half-Left | milian: You have to enable the preview file type |
15:22.17 | milian | Half-Left: did that |
15:22.22 | milian | works for png, text etc. |
15:22.48 | Half-Left | How did you enable it? |
15:22.55 | milian | via menu, how else? |
15:22.58 | henshaw | how big is the pdf? |
15:23.22 | milian | henshaw: big |
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15:23.37 | milian | but doesn't work for small (<1mb files) either |
15:23.40 | milian | so that's not the issue |
15:23.42 | Half-Left | General>Previews |
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15:25.21 | milian | Half-Left: could you make a screenshot? I cant find anything about that in the settings |
15:25.25 | milian | neither in konqueror nor in dolphin |
15:26.11 | Half-Left | Which KDE version? |
15:26.24 | milian | 4.2.4 |
15:26.43 | Half-Left | In Dolphin it's Settings>Configure Dolphin>General>Previews |
15:28.08 | Half-Left | there is a tick box for "PostScript, PDF and DVI Files" |
15:28.09 | milian | http://imagebin.ca/view/FyQdZr.html |
15:28.11 | milian | ?! |
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15:28.33 | Half-Left | oh |
15:28.47 | Half-Left | hmm, so KDE4.2 doesn't have this option then |
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15:29.44 | milian | Half-Left: so you use 4.3 and it works there? |
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15:29.49 | milian | good to hear |
15:30.00 | Half-Left | yep, one sec |
15:30.35 | Half-Left | milian: http://imagebin.ca/view/EMVy8It.html |
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15:30.54 | milian | Half-Left: thanks |
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15:34.37 | Half-Left | milian: 4.3 has some nice stuff in there and as you can see especially for Dolphin :) |
15:34.47 | milian | it works in kde 4.2 when installing kdegraphics... |
15:34.49 | milian | good to know :) |
15:34.59 | milian | Half-Left: at home I already use it |
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15:35.21 | milian | I'm currently at "work", I work as a IT guy at my university. one guy just came buy and complained about kde 4 ;-) |
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15:36.31 | Half-Left | ahh ok |
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15:37.12 | Half-Left | Just give them time :) |
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15:39.47 | summel | is it possible to "ask" kde if the widgets are locked or not in some way? |
15:39.54 | summel | preferably from inside a plasmoid |
15:40.21 | Half-Left | nope |
15:40.26 | summel | why not? :O |
15:40.38 | Half-Left | Just right click or click the plasma toolbox |
15:40.51 | Half-Left | it says it's clocked or not |
15:40.56 | Half-Left | locked* |
15:40.57 | summel | but i want a plasmoid that hides the top corner "cashew" when the widgets are locked |
15:41.04 | summel | and only show it when they are unlocked |
15:41.17 | zizzfizzix | summel: better ask on #plasma |
15:41.19 | summel | (which should be the default behavior in kde or at least an option imho :P) |
15:41.23 | summel | ok :) |
15:41.55 | Half-Left | Well it's be discussed, there will be no option |
15:42.06 | summel | why not? oO |
15:42.14 | summel | i thought kde is all about options :P |
15:42.32 | Half-Left | Why would ask somethign that's infront of your face? |
15:42.37 | summel | and the locked/unlocked version of "ihatethecashew" is a better aproach then the current behavior imho :) |
15:42.59 | Half-Left | Well that's not everyones opinion |
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15:43.11 | summel | i nearly never use the cashew... but i think it would be logical to make it behave like the one in the panel |
15:43.29 | Half-Left | Use OpenSUSE then |
15:43.33 | summel | eww no |
15:43.41 | summel | and what does that have to do with it? |
15:43.43 | Half-Left | They have a containment for that |
15:44.32 | Half-Left | So you need to program it then :p |
15:44.37 | Half-Left | code* |
15:44.50 | summel | yeah id love to but plasma-python thingy is broken |
15:45.17 | summel | and nobody told me! they all said "read the tutorial" but the tutorial did not work and i was like wtf for 2 or 3 days until i figured it out |
15:45.20 | summel | >_> |
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16:11.22 | kyron | _Q_: wierd problem; when printing from kpdf, even if I select letter, A4 is the paper being "sent to the printer". This only happens from kpdf. Other progs such as firefox/acroread send the correct paper "spec" (implying that cups is ok). anyone has hints as to why kpdf would ignore the setting that is set by default (even in kcontrol)? This is kde/kpdf 3.5.10 |
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16:12.53 | ajavid | hello |
16:13.02 | ajavid | I am using kde 3.5.10 and kftpgrabber on debian lenny |
16:13.09 | ajavid | I have made a bookmark and it works fine |
16:13.14 | ajavid | I have since forgotten my password |
16:13.23 | ajavid | I have no way to retrieving the password |
16:13.41 | ajavid | the only place it is stored is in my kftpgrabber and I don't know if it is possible to get it somehow |
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16:14.01 | ajavid | I have a hunch, as to what it is, but I don't want to take a chance |
16:14.06 | ajavid | I might get locked out of the server |
16:15.26 | ajavid | in the exported xml file it has a hashed password |
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16:24.44 | manhlan99 | hello |
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16:25.10 | manhlan99 | i can't install flash plugin |
16:25.17 | manhlan99 | help me,please |
16:25.30 | Half-Left | Ask your distro channel |
16:25.38 | manhlan99 | Fedora 11 |
16:25.51 | Half-Left | #fedora |
16:25.55 | seria-mau | are there any kde 4 apps with which i can listen to internet radio streams? |
16:26.18 | troy | seria-mau: amarok2 |
16:26.40 | seria-mau | troy: amarok2 is still in beta, iirc |
16:26.48 | troy | seria-mau: no, 2.1 has already been released |
16:27.04 | seria-mau | troy: and doesn't it have problems with metadata? |
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16:27.36 | Half-Left | I think you'll find 2.1 is alot better in that respect |
16:27.37 | troy | best ask that in #amarok - I only use it for local files and it works fine :) |
16:27.42 | seria-mau | i recall that it wrote garbage in mp3 metadata (at least in 2.0 or so) |
16:28.02 | summel | ragon player? kaffaeine? kmplayer? vlc? |
16:28.02 | summel | :D |
16:28.16 | Half-Left | vlc yes but that's a Qt app |
16:28.19 | Josie | I've seen not problems with amarok 2.1 |
16:28.23 | summel | qt4 at least :) |
16:28.26 | manhlan99 | how to join fedora chanel |
16:28.28 | manhlan99 | :D |
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16:28.34 | troy | manhlan99: /join #fedora |
16:29.05 | seria-mau | nice. rc2 has landed in debian experimental |
16:30.01 | seria-mau | now i can test with distributor packages, too |
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16:32.55 | fixl | hi. i'm looking for a program to dock some other applications to my systemtray. i stumbled across kdocker, but as far is i read is for kde3, but i'm looking for a kde4 equivalent. any suggestions? |
16:34.48 | Half-Left | fixl: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 |
16:36.21 | mluser-home | Anyone know if there is lirc support in kde 4.2.x yet? |
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16:37.31 | Half-Left | mluser-home: no, but it's in 4.3 |
16:37.37 | mluser-home | fixl: take a look at Alltray.. I use it a lot |
16:37.42 | mluser-home | Half-Left: thank you |
16:37.56 | Half-Left | mluser-home: You mean Remote Controls? |
16:38.04 | mluser-home | Half-Left: yes |
16:38.17 | Half-Left | Yes, there is a option in the systemsetting for 4.3 |
16:38.19 | fixl | mluser-home: is it working with kde4 ? |
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16:38.36 | mluser-home | Half-Left: thanks.. I'll wait for it then |
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16:39.01 | mluser-home | fixl: It works perfectly with all desktop environments I've tried.. gnome. kde, xfce4..... |
16:39.09 | seria-mau | do i need kde 4.3 for amarok 2.1? |
16:39.15 | fixl | ok. i'll give it a try |
16:39.24 | Half-Left | seria-mau: no |
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16:41.08 | Half-Left | That Daisy is pretty nice |
16:41.20 | Half-Left | And some nice options with it |
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16:45.28 | ScottG | How do I edit what is in the kde menu? |
16:45.45 | seria-mau | ah, nice. the context view in amarok can now be disabled. finally. |
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16:46.23 | manulite | Hi, whenever I click links in kde4 apps, when they open in konqueror, the address is something like /var/tmp/kdecache-.... and all relative links in the document wont work, is there a way round this? |
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16:48.44 | seria-mau | unfortunately i can't play anything with amarok, but my sound is working in other kde apps like kopete ... |
16:49.12 | Half-Left | Do you have mp3 support? |
16:49.21 | Half-Left | codecs? |
16:50.25 | annma | and did you ask your distro about it |
16:50.39 | seria-mau | well, i can play mp3 with totem |
16:50.50 | annma | kde version? distro? |
16:51.44 | annma | seria-mau: kde version? distro? |
16:52.00 | Half-Left | totem is a different app |
16:52.18 | Half-Left | doesn't use the same sound backend may, so you can compare |
16:52.28 | seria-mau | don't beat me: kde 4.2.4 from debian unstable and only amarok i could find is 2.1.1 from experimental *ducks* |
16:52.51 | seria-mau | Half-Left: amarok says gstreamer, so it should play all the things totem plays |
16:53.19 | annma | ask other debianers if it works for them |
16:53.24 | Half-Left | You should use the Xine backend |
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16:54.13 | Half-Left | Or should I say, I recommend it |
16:54.20 | MoDaX | seria-mau: aptitude install phonon-backend-gstreamer_ phonon-backend-xine |
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16:54.38 | MoDaX | seria-mau: amarok has problems with gstreamer backend in general |
16:54.45 | tuxick | does kde4 have any scanner frontend |
16:54.50 | tuxick | ? |
16:55.01 | MoDaX | skanlite |
16:55.03 | MoDaX | iirc |
16:55.03 | annma | yes skanlite or something |
16:55.19 | annma | I remember reviewing it |
16:55.20 | seria-mau | MoDaX: ok, thanks. just found the xine backend. wasn't installed |
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16:57.16 | tuxick | cheers |
16:57.20 | Half-Left | KolourPaint has one as well |
16:57.52 | ScottG | How do I edit what is in the kde menu? |
16:57.53 | tuxick | good old days when things were called kview, kpdf etc :) |
16:58.11 | seria-mau | MoDaX: works now. thanks :) |
16:58.20 | tuxick | sadly it can't find any scanner |
16:58.36 | troy | tuxick: kterm -> konsole, kfm -> konqueror, kwm -> kwin.... |
16:58.49 | MoDaX | ScottG: right click on K menu icon |
16:58.49 | Half-Left | And k games :p |
16:58.55 | troy | during the KDE 1->2 transition |
16:59.09 | troy | since 3->4 was the next big transition, we added more |
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17:01.10 | ScottG | MoDaX: When I right click on it all it shows is "Switch to Kickoff Menu Style", "Application Launcher Menu Settings", and then other generic panel things |
17:01.51 | troy | ScottG: what KDE version? |
17:02.05 | troy | ScottG: you could try launching kmenuedit manually |
17:02.19 | MoDaX | ScottG: there should be "Menu editor" at the top of the menu |
17:02.55 | ScottG | troy: 4.2 |
17:03.10 | troy | MoDaX: some distros changed things... |
17:03.11 | ScottG | MoDaX: There isn't |
17:03.24 | troy | hates it when distros move things around |
17:03.27 | MoDaX | stupid distros then |
17:03.49 | troy | ScottG: ALT-F2->kmenuedit |
17:04.20 | Half-Left | troy: Because they know better |
17:04.27 | MoDaX | ScottG: what distro are you using? |
17:04.41 | Half-Left | So they claim anyway |
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17:05.01 | troy | Half-Left: non-transferable skills that way - you become an ubuntu expert or a fedora expert, but not a linux expert |
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17:05.03 | ScottG | MoDaX: kde 4.2 |
17:05.09 | MoDaX | ScottG: distribution |
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17:05.27 | MoDaX | ubuntu, fedora, suse, debian , other |
17:05.30 | Half-Left | troy: True |
17:05.40 | ScottG | MoDaX: Oh sorry gentoo |
17:05.44 | manhlan99 | quit |
17:06.00 | troy | ScottG: are you new to linux? |
17:06.15 | MoDaX | hmm, gentoo should not be messing with kde in that way |
17:06.17 | ScottG | troy: I've been on it for like 7 months. 1-2 on gentoo |
17:06.31 | ScottG | MoDaX: I have the stripped down version of kde |
17:06.47 | troy | ScottG: you probably don't have the menu editor installed then |
17:06.58 | MoDaX | ScottG: I guess kmenuedit is not even compiled |
17:06.58 | troy | ScottG: it's a separate program called kmenuedit |
17:07.03 | MoDaX | on your system ;) |
17:07.13 | ScottG | troy: yea |
17:07.22 | ScottG | troy: Let me eix for it |
17:07.51 | troy | ScottG: well, you're going to learn a lot really quickly if you're using gentoo while still new to linux :) |
17:08.28 | ScottG | troy: Oh I have. I started out with ubuntu and I still think that was a good idea. Breaking in gentoo was a bitch |
17:08.41 | ScottG | troy: Hell, breaking in ubuntu was a bitch when I had really just started |
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17:09.00 | Half-Left | People still use Gentoo? :p |
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17:09.13 | ScottG | What else is there? |
17:09.26 | Half-Left | Lots |
17:09.34 | troy | Half-Left: yeah - they're still one of the few source-driven versions out there |
17:09.42 | Half-Left | Gentoo fad died down a while back |
17:09.59 | troy | Half-Left: I think the source-based distros fad died down, not the gentoo fad :) |
17:10.01 | smurfslover | ScottG: thake a look at distrowatch.com to get an idea of the amount of linux distributions |
17:10.18 | ScottG | smurfslover: yea I have. |
17:10.22 | Half-Left | Slackware is still going strong |
17:10.33 | troy | uses slackware on two machines at home |
17:10.53 | ScottG | What does slackware offer that gentoo doesn't? |
17:10.58 | troy | at work I'm stuck with ancient versions of centOS |
17:10.59 | Half-Left | can't fault gentoo's documentation though |
17:11.02 | troy | ScottG: binaries :) |
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17:11.11 | ScottG | troy: psh lol |
17:11.18 | Half-Left | Time? :p |
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17:12.08 | troy | slackware is a very rudimentary binary linux - the oldest surviving distro; when you learn slackware, you learn transferable skills to all other distros |
17:12.49 | Half-Left | until other distros change their service paths |
17:13.18 | troy | Half-Left: huh? well, it uses a bsd style init, if that's what you mean :) |
17:13.47 | Half-Left | rc.d ect... |
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17:14.09 | troy | yeah - slackware hasn't changed their init system in a decade :P |
17:14.28 | ScottG | troy: Is the latest version of kmenuedit 3.5? |
17:14.41 | troy | ScottG: no, probably 4.2.something |
17:15.00 | ScottG | troy: Hm, I have a problem |
17:15.02 | troy | the 3.5 version is probably for KDE 3.5 |
17:15.27 | troy | ScottG: it probably ships as part of another package |
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17:16.06 | Half-Left | troy: I'm not jumping distros anymore. I have Archlinux and it keeps me happy. |
17:16.38 | troy | Half-Left: yeah, I've heard that it keeps a lot of the same people happy that slackware does :) |
17:17.04 | Half-Left | Yep |
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17:17.49 | ScottG | troy: Well I think it has something to do with the fact that when I do a emerge -DNu it gets a bunch of 3.5 apps and a --depclean removes them |
17:18.33 | ScottG | troy: Which I think has something to do with the fact that I have the kde-testing overlay |
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17:22.48 | troy | ScottG: you'd be better off asking these questions in #gentoo at this point :) not many gentoo users around |
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17:28.01 | ScottG | troy: lol yea, just seeing what i could milk out of ya :p |
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17:39.55 | henshaw | which appearance setting changes the colour of the panel |
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17:41.29 | henshaw | also I'm on a new installation and am fiddling around with colour schemes to see what best distinguishes active and inactive titlebars. what's the current state of the art? |
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17:42.50 | henshaw | err. I guess this is with ozone |
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17:44.34 | henshaw | actually, what I actually want is to make inactive titlebars easier to see against menubars |
17:44.54 | henshaw | actually actually |
17:47.31 | Half-Left | henshaw: Few plasma themes use the KDE colour scheme, Aya Plasma theme does |
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17:49.17 | kdepepo | henshaw, you need to use a different window decoration, Oxygen has been designed to give less difference between active/inactive. |
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17:49.43 | annma | dantti: what about the screenshot then? |
17:50.27 | kdepepo | annma is impatient :) |
17:50.29 | dantti | annma: sorry for the delay :P http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3341/notwellreadable.png |
17:50.37 | dantti | verry |
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17:51.13 | dantti | annma: with darker backgrouds it gets eve worst.. |
17:51.29 | annma | what's that exactly |
17:51.47 | annma | foldervoiew? |
17:51.58 | kdepepo | we had that yesterday... my proposal was to look at the wallpaper plugin to see if the text needs to be bright or dark. |
17:52.13 | annma | we? |
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17:52.45 | annma | dantti: can you explain |
17:52.51 | kdepepo | we, the #kde community :) |
17:53.04 | annma | so is that folfderview? |
17:53.22 | dantti | Anarky: yep folder view |
17:53.26 | dantti | :/ |
17:53.30 | dantti | annma: ^ |
17:53.54 | annma | kdepepo: what when yo have slideshow? |
17:54.28 | dantti | also it would be nice for the future to have that + to select icons.. |
17:54.30 | annma | dantti: is it a slideshow? |
17:54.38 | dantti | annma: no |
17:54.44 | dantti | static wallpaper |
17:54.44 | kdepepo | annma, then it would update on hover probably ... |
17:54.52 | annma | so why don't you choose a better color for text? |
17:55.16 | annma | is it set to black? |
17:55.20 | annma | what font? |
17:55.35 | dantti | annma: hmm well it's defaults settings.. i think it should look well as 4.2 did |
17:55.43 | annma | defaults? |
17:55.53 | annma | what wallpaper? |
17:56.01 | dantti | yep, i didn't changed anything.. |
17:56.14 | annma | yu changed the wallpaper |
17:56.16 | dantti | spring sunray |
17:56.26 | annma | default is Air, where can I get this wallpaper? |
17:56.38 | dantti | in 4.2 i changed the wallppaper too and it worked fine.. |
17:56.46 | annma | I don't know how you can stand folderview on such a wallpaper |
17:56.50 | dantti | annma: i think get wall paper works.. |
17:56.56 | kdepepo | 4.2 had white text as default, I think. |
17:57.10 | dantti | kdepepo: iirc it was.. |
17:57.18 | annma | so set it to white |
17:57.32 | annma | is it better? |
17:58.08 | dantti | annma: hmmm i know i can set, but it should imo be okay with any wallpaper if i'm with default color & fonts |
17:58.38 | kdepepo | defaults can only be okay, if you are also with default wallpaper :) |
17:59.05 | annma | dantti: so what color should be default? just tell us which |
17:59.26 | annma | how on earth can defaults be OK with anything |
17:59.48 | dantti | annma: imo i don't remember to had a problem with 4.2.. |
18:00.11 | annma | dantti: then look at kde 4.2 code and issue a but report with your proposal |
18:00.38 | dantti | http://kde.org/announcements/4.2/screenshots/desktop.png |
18:00.40 | kdepepo | I guess most have darkish wallpapers, so text default should be white with a dark shadow |
18:00.44 | dantti | yep it's white |
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18:01.29 | annma | so is white better for you with all wallpapers on KNS? |
18:01.48 | annma | I can't stand white personally, too tiring |
18:02.01 | annma | and what about the Air bubbles |
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18:02.29 | annma | white was OK with Oxygen, not with AIr |
18:02.31 | dantti | annma: where do i change that? :P i can't find it in colors... |
18:02.43 | Half-Left | text colour on the plasma themes are determind by the theme |
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18:02.53 | annma | in folderview there's a settings to change color fonts |
18:03.00 | dantti | hmm |
18:03.23 | Half-Left | i.e the plasma artist sets it |
18:03.26 | annma | Half-Left: yes but they ask that default color is OK for all wallpapers |
18:03.50 | Half-Left | Wel that's impossible |
18:03.53 | annma | did you find it dantti |
18:04.01 | dantti | yes |
18:04.10 | annma | hands the matter to Half-Left :) |
18:04.22 | Half-Left | :O |
18:04.30 | annma | ;) sorry |
18:04.34 | Half-Left | hehe :) |
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18:05.28 | Half-Left | So the issue is that the font colour for the plasma theme is not idea for your wallpaper? |
18:06.04 | dantti | annma: well imo it's better even with air wallpaper, but i still think forderview show be re-think. and a blur back on the text would make it better |
18:06.29 | annma | just issue a bug report with patch |
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18:06.38 | annma | use case and proposal |
18:07.01 | annma | a blur: what about people with bad eyes |
18:07.01 | Half-Left | "Blur back on the text"? |
18:07.05 | ajamison5579 | how do i change the digital clock in KDE4 to display in 12 hour format and not 24 hour format |
18:08.20 | Half-Left | ajamison5579: In the systemsetings>Regional & language>Time & Date |
18:08.28 | annma | dantti: the color has a setting so YOU can change it to suit your needs |
18:08.44 | Half-Left | Yeah, for Folder View |
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18:09.22 | annma | so far it's about folderview |
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18:09.51 | annma | dantti: what about other widgets text color? |
18:10.48 | ajamison5579 | thanks Half-Left that worked |
18:11.35 | ajamison5579 | can anyone point me to a guide on how to port KDE 3.5 applets code into a KDE4 plasmoid |
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18:13.54 | yt2005 | is there a way i can have the launcher launch just by pressing the Windows key alone? (Fedora 11, KDE 4.2.4) |
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18:15.46 | troy | yt2005: there were patches against KDE 3.x to do this, but I don't know what happened to them shrugs |
18:15.52 | troy | gah! ksirc autobolding! |
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18:17.52 | ajamison5579 | Let me re-phrase is is possible to port 3.5 applets into kde4 modifying the code as needed or would a complete re-write be needed |
18:18.25 | Half-Left | You should ask in #plasma |
18:19.04 | Half-Left | Re-write I'd be guessing since plasma has it's own API |
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18:20.16 | ajamison5579 | k |
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18:35.14 | vital | I'm trying to build kde-qt since a few days, but it fails when compiling webkit, anyone know what I might miss, or if this is a known problem? when I do ./configure --- I dont get any errors. |
18:35.59 | Half-Left | kde-qt? |
18:36.08 | annma | yes git qt-copy |
18:36.15 | vital | kde-qt on gitourious |
18:36.20 | annma | vital: what configure options do you pass? |
18:36.27 | annma | I built it |
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18:37.37 | dantti | annma: soory my boss called me, yes blur at the back of the text, you car read without problems on a transparent task bar thanks to the pannel collor.. |
18:37.42 | vital | annma: http://pastebin.ca/1496069 that is the line I pass |
18:38.21 | vital | in that one I had removed -webkit but it still fail to compile |
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18:38.51 | vital | more or less I followed the http://qt.gitorious.org/+kde-developers/qt/kde-qt/blobs/README/README.kde-qt textfile for compiling the git-version |
18:39.24 | annma | so what errors do you get? |
18:39.28 | annma | pastebin |
18:40.32 | annma | dantti: what about other applets text color |
18:40.39 | annma | on Air |
18:41.38 | dantti | annew: well appart from that i don't think there is any issue.. although the clock could have a white shadow imo |
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18:41.50 | dantti | annma: ^^ sorry |
18:42.05 | annma | white on white? |
18:42.12 | annma | isn't the Air clock white? |
18:42.15 | annma | mine is |
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18:47.19 | daggs1 | hello, I've got a strange problem, I have a java program that is stuck at max window, I was suggested it is a kde issue, anyone has any idea how to verify it? |
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18:48.12 | henshaw | can I only change the desktop theme from the desktop? can't find anything in system settings |
18:49.22 | thiago_home | from the desktop |
18:49.29 | kdepepo | henshaw, yep, a bug report is filed. |
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18:49.53 | vital | annma: http://pastebin.ca/1496083 that is the errors I get when compiling kde-qt |
18:51.10 | thiago_home | vital: which branch? |
18:51.12 | annma | it's about phonon |
18:51.13 | thiago_home | 4.5.2-patched? |
18:51.21 | annma | not webkit |
18:51.27 | annma | kde-qt |
18:51.38 | vital | thiago_home: git clone git://gitorious.org/+kde-developers/qt/kde-qt.git is the one I checked out |
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18:52.21 | vital | phonon.. I still no Idea what might be missing :) |
18:52.25 | Half-Left | Yeah, you're not using -no-phonon in your line |
18:52.36 | Half-Left | Seems to be the issue anyway |
18:52.47 | vital | Half-Left, okay, I'll add that, and make a new try.. thanks |
18:53.03 | annma | Half-Left: kde-qt recommands to build Qt phonon |
18:53.09 | annma | it's not related to that |
18:53.15 | annma | I built it |
18:53.26 | Half-Left | ahh |
18:53.29 | thiago_home | vital: I know what this is |
18:53.32 | thiago_home | I forgot to backport one fix |
18:53.34 | thiago_home | 71be46c61c582d2f4635a1e420e44d57ddb5857a |
18:53.39 | thiago_home | doing that now, gimme a sec |
18:53.45 | vital | :) |
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18:54.02 | Half-Left | hasn't built kde-qt, only old svn qt |
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18:54.41 | annma | why is it released-shared |
18:54.59 | annma | don't yu build with debug? |
18:55.21 | thiago_home | can't push... server isn't accepting pushes |
18:55.38 | thiago_home | vital: try applying this patch: http://pastebin.ca/1496089 |
18:55.42 | vital | I was building it as release yes, I will make a debugversion for my stationary with more harddisk. |
18:55.46 | vital | thiago_home, okay |
18:57.06 | thiago_home | vital: just run: git pasteapply 1496089 |
18:57.21 | thiago_home | here's the git-pasteapply if you don't have it already: http://pastebin.ca/1393894 |
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18:59.05 | vital | thiago, I have to install some more perl stuff I guess :) |
18:59.38 | Zorael | wants an asciiquarium port for windows |
18:59.55 | thiago_home | yes, WWW::Mechanize |
19:00.16 | thiago_home | takes 10 seconds to install or so |
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19:03.28 | vital | thiago_home: http://pastebin.ca/1496095 I seem to have old stuff installed.. |
19:04.33 | vital | ok, building again :) |
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19:19.09 | poppler | cmake is a bliss! |
19:20.06 | dantti | annma: mine is black and it's set to use theme color... |
19:20.22 | annma | what desktop theme do you use then |
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19:20.46 | annma | try Air and look what white fonts look like on it |
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19:21.14 | dantti | annma: it's air.. |
19:22.13 | vital | thiago_home, thanks for the help, kde-qt builds correct now! |
19:22.16 | dantti | annma: oxygem it's white |
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19:23.43 | annma | http://imagebin.ca/view/uXVAYt4z.html |
19:23.46 | annma | my clock |
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19:24.23 | HobbyBlobby | i have the same |
19:25.07 | annma | :) I started to wonder what I did |
19:25.13 | dantti | annma: not that one... :P the digital one.. :P |
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19:25.31 | dantti | thought i really like that train clock from before 4.0 |
19:25.34 | annma | dantti: anyway, on this one, would white color be good? |
19:26.00 | annma | would white text color be good on any Air desktop applets? |
19:26.00 | dantti | annma: sure not.. |
19:26.04 | annma | see |
19:26.34 | annma | Air is clear background and has a darker font |
19:26.51 | annma | Oxygen is dark background and has white fonts |
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19:27.11 | dantti | ok, so i think the white shadow on folder view should be "larger" bigger.. |
19:27.27 | annma | thewhite shadow on what theme |
19:27.36 | annma | switched to Oxygen |
19:27.45 | dantti | yep.. |
19:27.54 | tuxick | that might increase your life expectancy |
19:28.09 | annma | issue abug report against the theme and add a mockup |
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19:28.17 | dantti | i really like air but i have pictures of my wife for example that have a dark background |
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19:28.37 | dantti | i don't want to use oxygem.. just becaouse of that... |
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19:28.59 | dantti | annew: ok |
19:29.05 | dantti | crap.. |
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19:29.29 | dantti | annma: why your nick is so hard from tab to find :P |
19:29.34 | dantti | *for |
19:29.59 | annma | I bribed Konvi devels so they put me first but I did not bribe far anough |
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19:34.43 | Half-Left | dantti: What exactly is the problem, the text no clear with the theme? |
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19:36.25 | dantti | Half-Left: i find it hard to read... |
19:36.46 | Half-Left | Which version do you have, RC2? |
19:36.55 | dantti | the text it's too thin and it mixes with the wallpaper.. |
19:36.59 | dantti | rc2 |
19:37.37 | MoDaX | dantti: konvi tab-completes by activity as well |
19:37.40 | annma | in folderview only |
19:37.58 | Half-Left | Depends yes, Air will have issues with some wallpapers |
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19:38.17 | dantti | MoDaX: konvi is a irc client? i use kvirc.. |
19:38.42 | MoDaX | oh well, annma mentioned konvi previously ;) |
19:39.04 | annma | yup, dear konvi |
19:39.21 | dantti | MoDaX: yep, actually i didn't understood that :P not an english speaker i thought it was some joke.. |
19:39.40 | MoDaX | konvi = konversation |
19:39.46 | dantti | ah :P |
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19:41.03 | dantti | i used that one in kde3 but dunno kvirc seemed better imo.. |
19:43.12 | MoDaX | well, I remember trying it once but I didn't like its MDI interface |
19:43.26 | dantti | mdi? |
19:43.53 | dantti | yes looking at it again remembers one of the first issues, tabs for channels.. |
19:44.05 | MoDaX | multiple windows (documents) in window |
19:44.45 | dantti | well dunno i like kvirc and it fits better on widescreen i think |
19:45.24 | MoDaX | I can't comment on current state, it was _really_ long ago |
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19:58.29 | yurikoles | wtf? |
19:58.47 | yurikoles | krusader is closed |
19:59.09 | thiago_home | kill it |
19:59.29 | yurikoles | thx, cap |
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20:00.42 | somekool | how do I open System Settings as root ? |
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20:02.45 | Half-Left | kdesu |
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20:11.48 | somekool | Half-Left: thanks |
20:12.11 | somekool | i wish there was this checkbox in the krunner like in 3.5 |
20:12.17 | somekool | run as a different user, etc. |
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20:12.25 | somekool | open in a terminal option too |
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20:13.38 | slava_dp | hi guys. i'm havind trouble finding the key combination to bring down all of the windows. in another os it defaults to Ctrl+D. anyone? |
20:13.57 | Half-Left | somekool: Maybe when policykit integration comes |
20:14.04 | slava_dp | not Ctrl+D, Win+D. |
20:14.38 | somekool | win+d for desktop ? i set it to F11 like in OSX |
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20:14.56 | somekool | you can configuere key shortcut as you wish under kde |
20:15.14 | slava_dp | F11 makes firefox fullscreen :-) |
20:15.15 | somekool | Half-Left: in kde 4.3 ? that should be interesting .... |
20:15.29 | Half-Left | 4.4 |
20:15.53 | slava_dp | i haven't found where to configure this behaviour though.... |
20:16.12 | Half-Left | 4.3 just has the start of it |
20:16.16 | somekool | any workign desktop searhc solution for kde 4.2 ? |
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20:17.56 | Half-Left | Sort of but it's better in 4.3 since dolphin has a search bar now |
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20:20.20 | somekool | i think ruby bindings are still missing in 4.3 so I cannot upgrade just yet |
20:20.26 | somekool | but I have to try rc2 |
20:20.47 | Half-Left | somekool: nepomuk/Strigi from KRunner in 4.2, it's more exposed in 4.3 via Dolphin |
20:22.04 | somekool | strigi is the backend, nepomuk is the kde wrapper ? |
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20:22.49 | Half-Left | nepomuk is for file tagging |
20:23.08 | Half-Left | Strigi does the indexing |
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20:29.27 | somekool | i see ! |
20:29.37 | somekool | im building my strigi index now |
20:29.52 | somekool | nepomuk tagging will be available in dolphin after ? |
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20:30.40 | Half-Left | Well in 4.2 it's searchable via Krunner only |
20:31.10 | Half-Left | 4.3 Dolphin has a nice search bar for that |
20:31.13 | somekool | for searching, krunner is perfect. but how do I tag a file ? |
20:31.27 | Half-Left | Tag from Dolphin info bar yes |
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20:34.29 | somekool | hmm, i must need to enable something .... |
20:36.14 | Half-Left | The seasame2 backend is best, a lot faster |
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20:44.22 | MercurialAlchemi | speaking of search |
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20:45.07 | TLF | hello |
20:45.30 | TLF | I am using GNOME, and for some reason, when I try to save from kolourpaint, for example, save dialog does not open |
20:45.36 | TLF | where can I look for a solution? |
20:45.38 | MercurialAlchemi | I get a 'strigi service failed to initialize' without anything in .xsession-errors to tell me why |
20:45.41 | MercurialAlchemi | with 4.3 |
20:48.15 | somekool | TLF: very weird. i dont think gnome is related at all |
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20:48.21 | somekool | neither is kde |
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20:48.23 | somekool | code 18 ? |
20:48.33 | TLF | yeah, that is why I'm asking for help :) |
20:49.18 | TLF | save or save as does not says anything on terminal, nor GDB |
20:49.27 | TLF | it simply does not open |
20:49.33 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: where do you get that from? |
20:49.52 | TLF | interestingly, on konqueror it works |
20:49.53 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: when switching strigi on in system settings |
20:50.09 | somekool | kolourpaint is Qt3 or Qt4 version ? |
20:50.17 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: do you use the sesame2 backend? |
20:50.39 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: how would I check that? |
20:50.48 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: qdbus org.kde.NepomukStorage /nepomukstorage usedSopranoBackend |
20:51.14 | MercurialAlchemi | 'redland' |
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20:51.25 | MercurialAlchemi | so that would be a 'no' |
20:51.47 | DanielW | ok than there you have the problem.. redland is so slow that well nepomuk itself is more or less useless |
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20:52.01 | DanielW | but i think you should get a better error message ... |
20:52.40 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: look if there is an extra package for soprano sesame2 or something for your distribution |
20:52.41 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: yeah, I'd expected to at least got something in the logs |
20:53.35 | DanielW | if you use gentoo you need to enable the java use flag (as far as i know, not using gentoo). |
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20:54.09 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: Debian here, and no, looks like I'm out of luck |
20:54.21 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: at the same time, not all of kde 4.3 is in experimental yet |
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20:54.28 | DanielW | and i will look into the better message thing tomorrow |
20:54.47 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: sounds good, thanks |
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20:56.02 | sergiodj | hi guys, I'm using kmail and I'd like to know if there's a way to make a thread becomes the first message in the list whenever I receive a new message for it |
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20:56.16 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: i am not sure if debian package the sesame2 backend at all. there are this source packages issues it should be hard to package |
20:57.19 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: it does not appear to be the case for now, the only thing an 'apt-cache search sesame' reveals is python-sesame |
20:57.27 | DanielW | sergiodj: you can |
20:57.59 | sergiodj | DanielW: cool, can you tell me how or point me to some doc where I can find how to do it? |
20:58.01 | DanielW | sergiodj: when you are in the list view click on "change sort order" |
20:58.10 | sergiodj | let me try |
20:58.21 | DanielW | and then "order by most recent messaage in group" |
20:58.58 | sergiodj | DanielW: great!! that solved the problem, thank you very much :) |
20:59.15 | DanielW | sergiodj: the problem is, nepomuk is so slow and quite a lot of things don't work correct with redland backend |
20:59.58 | sergiodj | DanielW: I'm sorry, but what is nepomuk? |
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21:01.10 | DanielW | sergiodj: oh that is the problem with the "new" name of the kcm module. |
21:01.42 | sergiodj | DanielW: so you mean that this kind of sorting won't work correctly? |
21:02.11 | DanielW | sergiodj: nepomuk aims to provide something called semantiv desktop. in the real world it shared rating and tagging in dolphin and gwenview and desktop serach (but only via kio slave or krunner) |
21:02.18 | DanielW | oh sorry |
21:02.23 | DanielW | i meant MercurialAlchemi |
21:02.28 | sergiodj | haha |
21:02.31 | DanielW | hehe has nothing to do with kmail at the moment |
21:02.33 | sergiodj | DanielW: that's ok :) |
21:02.54 | sergiodj | yeah, I was noticing that kmail had nothing to do |
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21:03.43 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: I am aware |
21:04.29 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: not that nepomuk itself seems to be really working... tagging work, but searching doesn't |
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21:05.21 | DanielW | MercurialAlchemi: searching with krunner ? or the dolphin search thing? |
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21:05.32 | DanielW | that is working. but you really need sesame2 for that |
21:05.39 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: with krunner |
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21:05.57 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: oh, I thought sesame2 was for strigi only |
21:06.33 | DanielW | well. with redland also tagging and rating is very slow. |
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21:07.13 | DanielW | search could work if you only use the lucene index or some types of sparql queries. in real world the query serivce doesn'T really work |
21:07.15 | MercurialAlchemi | DanielW: one might hope that 'slow' is still 'less than 24 hours' |
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21:07.46 | DanielW | but i think just searching for literals should work. never tried it.. |
21:08.07 | DanielW | when you give a file a comment you may be able to find it with krunner (enable the nepomuk plugin) |
21:08.23 | DanielW | but that all is imho pretty pointless with redland |
21:08.57 | DanielW | i think we should disable nepomuk at all with only redland. the way it is now it gives a really bad experience for the users.. |
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21:10.09 | MercurialAlchemi | side question |
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21:10.30 | MercurialAlchemi | would you know of an utility which would tell me why xorg is currently gobbling up CPU for no good reason? |
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21:10.39 | watermind | what is the new 'social applet' in kde 4.3 |
21:10.43 | watermind | cannot find it anywhere |
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21:10.51 | SnYDer | hello |
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21:12.15 | SnYDer | I cannot start kde on my machine; it looks like there is a problem with 'ksmserver' which - for some reason - crashes |
21:12.25 | SnYDer | in syslog I can see the following message: |
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21:12.34 | DanielW | watermind: it is called opendesktop |
21:12.51 | SnYDer | Jul 15 23:06:33 jd kernel: [ 283.820518] ksmserver[4273]: segfault at 0 ip 00000000 sp bfa143e8 error 4 in ksmserver[8048000+1000] |
21:13.17 | SnYDer | core is dumped to ~/core |
21:13.18 | DanielW | SnYDer: own build? distro build? |
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21:14.29 | SnYDer | DanielW: disto: Debian ; but it was working fine and then, after no upgrade - it stopped; there was a few power outages in the meantime so I assume one of the file got corrupted, but I have no clue how to find it... |
21:15.05 | watermind | DanielW: thanks |
21:15.13 | SnYDer | even if I just run ksmserver straight from the prompt, I just get segmentation fault |
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21:15.33 | DanielW | SnYDer: mhh that is a debian questions. i mean apt tracks what files it installed. maybe it can find out which are changes |
21:15.33 | watermind | DanielW: hmm neds a login |
21:15.43 | DanielW | if not it can at least reinstall all of them? |
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21:15.54 | DanielW | watermind: yes. there is a link where you can register if you want |
21:16.19 | DanielW | but: it is pretty useless at the moment imho. ok sure it is nice to see a list of users nearby somehow but you can not really do anything with it. but try it |
21:16.34 | SnYDer | DanielW: I already removed all the kde* packages, xorg packages, qt packages and reinstalled from the beginning - no success |
21:16.51 | MercurialAlchemi | SnYDer: you can try apt-get --reinstall install <package> if you think you know which one is buggered |
21:17.33 | SnYDer | DanielW: is there any way to see the process of KDE startup / turn off the pretty splash-boot-screen ? |
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21:18.02 | SnYDer | during the booting process, several icons should show up one afted the other |
21:18.19 | SnYDer | in my case, only the first one appears and then KDE dies |
21:18.41 | DanielW | well if ksmserver crashes that will be the problem |
21:19.14 | DanielW | and i don't really thnk it is a kde bug. is there someting like apt-get reinstall everything installed? |
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21:20.47 | wwalker | is there any way to turn off the "dock" at the bottom of the screen for just one of the workspaces? for all workspaces? |
21:21.14 | DanielW | wwalker: you mean the panel? |
21:21.15 | SnYDer | DanielW: well, I created an 'evil' for loop ;) and I think I already reinstalled all the packages, but the problem is still there... the other possibility is faulted memory (I started thinking of it because of segmentation fault errors), but why everything else is working besides kde? o_O |
21:21.32 | wwalker | DanielW: Yes |
21:21.40 | DanielW | SnYDer: tried to log in as a different user? |
21:22.04 | DanielW | and you also restarted your system? |
21:22.04 | SnYDer | DanielW: yes, the same thing |
21:22.11 | SnYDer | yep |
21:22.43 | SnYDer | can you guys recommend any tool to look insinde the mentioned 'core' file (besides gdb) ? |
21:22.44 | DanielW | mhh. ok not sure. in theory it could also be a kde bug. but if it used to work and it even happens with an empty config.. |
21:23.03 | SnYDer | I mean - something dedicated to track kde issues |
21:23.25 | DanielW | i am not sure if that exists. what you could do ist run ksmserver from gdb |
21:23.57 | DanielW | and try to get a backtrace from the crash |
21:25.46 | drvoodoo | hi all, how can i check if the radeon driver (xserver-xorg-video-ati) is really used on by thinkpad? |
21:25.46 | DanielW | drvoodoo: take a look in the xorg log? |
21:25.55 | DanielW | but no kde question |
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21:27.56 | drvoodoo | yes, i know, i wanted to post it in the kubuntu channel, not here |
21:29.01 | bline | anyone know why the network monitor applet wouldn't show any interfaces? |
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21:29.09 | SnYDer | DanielW: ok, I will go that way, I also don't believe that this is KDE bug - it was working and just stopped, and I didn't upgrade anything in the meantime; so the problem is definietely on my machine |
21:29.10 | watermind | DanielW: no users nearby |
21:29.16 | watermind | DanielW: even with dist at max |
21:29.18 | watermind | eh :S |
21:29.50 | SnYDer | DanielW: thank you |
21:30.19 | DanielW | watermind: weird. did you set your location? |
21:30.36 | DanielW | i (in germany) always have a lot of near by users (mostly german some in nl) |
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21:36.00 | EvilGuru | Could anyone tell me where in the kde svn repo I should be looking for the plasma widgets? |
21:37.13 | Half-Left | What plasma widgets? |
21:37.34 | Half-Left | kdeplasma-addons? |
21:38.15 | DanielW | well they are in kdebase/workspace (the core ones) others in kdeplasma-addons |
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21:38.24 | DanielW | and then some in playground/base/plasma |
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21:39.32 | Half-Left | Playground ones if you like to play with explosives |
21:39.50 | EvilGuru | DanielW: Ah, I found the addons ones, but not the others, thanks |
21:40.06 | watermind | DanielW: yes |
21:40.10 | watermind | DanielW: Edinburgh UK |
21:40.30 | watermind | and looked up coordinates |
21:41.08 | EvilGuru | I am currently looking for a replacement for kima and none of the built-in widgets provide the functionality |
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21:41.19 | EvilGuru | some am deciding if it is best to ehance them or write my own |
21:41.34 | DanielW | i don't know kima |
21:41.54 | DanielW | have you looked at the GHNS applets or the c++ based one on kde-looks.org? |
21:42.21 | watermind | DanielW: it also shows no info about me |
21:42.44 | watermind | DanielW: even though I did set some info on my profile when registering |
21:42.57 | watermind | DanielW: shouldn't it at least show my name or something |
21:43.12 | EvilGuru | DanielW: Yes, however none seem to have the same intersection of features |
21:44.42 | DanielW | watermind: it should. but i have the same problem it only sometimes really logs in und shows me and near by users |
21:45.02 | DanielW | watermind: look on bugs.kde.org if it is reported if not.. well report it. |
21:45.04 | watermind | DanielW: I removed and added it again and now shows info |
21:45.14 | DanielW | yeah.. |
21:45.16 | EvilGuru | The current applets seem to be based around ksysguard |
21:45.22 | watermind | DanielW: but no nearby still |
21:45.49 | DanielW | watermind: maybe someone in #plasma can help |
21:45.58 | watermind | DanielW: thanks |
21:46.18 | DanielW | EvilGuru: they seem to use the plasma the ksysguard based dataenge for that |
21:46.32 | EvilGuru | Yeah |
21:46.42 | DanielW | EvilGuru: plasmaengineexplorer if you do not know that already |
21:46.56 | EvilGuru | has just been poking around the source and traced the includes |
21:48.06 | EvilGuru | One of the data-end features missing is support for nvidia GPUs, which via the x module can provide temperatue read-outs |
21:49.07 | EvilGuru | That and the lm_sensor interface doesn't name sensors too well, when compared to the sensors command line app |
21:50.01 | DanielW | fix it *G* |
21:52.13 | EvilGuru | The current maintainer seems to be johnflux, who often lurks in ##physics, so I'll ask about it |
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22:00.02 | twois10 | got it |
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22:39.50 | pherthyl | it worked in 4.2.4, but not after I upgraded to 4.3rc2 (debian) |
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