| 00:00.06 | lilltiger | cb400f: well it does look a bit better |
| 00:00.24 | lilltiger | cb400f: but still not good :) |
| 00:02.13 | yao_ziyuan | cb400f: and html editor? |
| 00:02.34 | cb400f | quanta.. kde4 port is taking it's time though :-( |
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| 00:03.23 | hallowname | http://imagebin.ca/view/CJQyPC0i.html <- my tiny systray |
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| 00:05.32 | yao_ziyuan | cb400f: is there a kde4 one? |
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| 00:06.51 | cb400f | kate has some html support.. highlighting and basic stuff |
| 00:07.06 | cb400f | some guy started some qt4 thingy.. based on webkit |
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| 00:09.24 | yao_ziyuan | no, i want WYSIWYG |
| 00:09.35 | cb400f | thinks using gtk apps won't hurt anybody.. only real gnome apps might |
| 00:09.53 | yao_ziyuan | what is a good gtk html editor? |
| 00:10.16 | yao_ziyuan | i use a lot gtk apps |
| 00:10.33 | yao_ziyuan | gedit, pidgin |
| 00:10.39 | yao_ziyuan | firefox, thunderbird (not really gtk) |
| 00:10.55 | yao_ziyuan | they're x apps pretending to be gtk |
| 00:11.03 | yao_ziyuan | realplayer |
| 00:11.08 | yao_ziyuan | d4x |
| 00:11.13 | yao_ziyuan | gftp |
| 00:11.21 | yao_ziyuan | codeblocks |
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| 00:11.33 | yao_ziyuan | gimp, of course |
| 00:13.11 | lilltiger | there is no WYSIWYG htl editor cos evry freaking browser (esp. the retarded IE) renders the pages differently.. |
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| 00:13.18 | lilltiger | html.. |
| 00:14.59 | hallowname | yao_ziyuan: kompozer. amaya. google sites? ;p wine + dreamweaver? lol |
| 00:15.11 | yao_ziyuan | seamonkey composer is good |
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| 00:25.41 | yt2005 | why does brasero think my blank dvds are 4.4 GB? is this one of those weird "1000 vs 1024" things? |
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| 00:30.45 | lilltiger | yt2005: yes |
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| 01:04.21 | ironfroggy_ | Are there any plans to get the Desktop Grid effect to display multiple screens together? |
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| 01:24.45 | ajehals | Does anyone know where the config file for the dolphn sidebar thing is for 4.2.2? |
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| 01:39.13 | B-Man | Does KDE have any where to mass resize photos ? |
| 01:39.31 | B-Man | (4.3) |
| 01:39.56 | DaZ | use imagemagick, luke, |
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| 01:48.48 | magyar | hi, in kde 4.2 how do i arrange profiles by alphabetic order? |
| 01:48.58 | magyar | in konsole |
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| 01:55.57 | yt2005 | thanks lilltiger |
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| 02:15.55 | kub1 | What is the KDE developers channel? |
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| 02:36.55 | lilltiger | yt2005: it's MB vs MiB (yhee they made MiB an official unit..) |
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| 03:25.30 | rohitj | Is this the right place to ask a kopete related problem? |
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| 03:53.11 | PhrkOnLsh | oic |
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| 04:18.41 | PhrkOnLsh | congrats on 4.3rc, it's really nice, guys |
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| 05:21.57 | jithine | kopete keeps crashing in my kubuntu kde 4.3 rc3 |
| 05:22.20 | jithine | it starts connects and then quits |
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| 05:26.13 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: run from konsole? |
| 05:26.53 | JW | Does k3b support burning to blue-ray disk? |
| 05:27.02 | JW | excuse me blu-ray :-) |
| 05:28.59 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: you just commited copyright infringment by using that name |
| 05:29.25 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: GNU/Linux doesn't support blu-ray because it's proprietary, patented MPAA-ware |
| 05:29.36 | PhrkOnLsh | oh and non-Free |
| 05:29.49 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: yes I run from konsole |
| 05:30.00 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: does it say anything? Do you have a backtrace? |
| 05:30.27 | JW | PhrkOnLsh: what, I can't even say it out loud? what are you talking about - this is a conversation, not a marketing page. |
| 05:30.40 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: that first part was a joke ;) |
| 05:30.51 | PhrkOnLsh | the second part was serious though |
| 05:31.01 | JW | I hope so - people are so touchy on irc these days that I take them all too seriously now I guess. |
| 05:31.27 | JW | ok like literally the kernel won't support it even, is that what you mean? |
| 05:31.34 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: no I should have been more clear that I was being ridiculous |
| 05:31.47 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: meaning, yeah, NOTHING in GNU/Linux supports it |
| 05:31.59 | JW | no, no that's ok I'm just tired, probably should have fiugred . . . |
| 05:32.18 | PhrkOnLsh | Because it's proprietary, patented, and probably we'd get our asses sued by those hungry monsters under the DMCA |
| 05:32.33 | rohanpm | Isn't the same true of DVD encryption? Which can be made to work pretty easily on most Linux distributions... |
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| 05:32.54 | JW | that's what I was thinking. |
| 05:33.01 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: http://pastebin.ca/1511887 |
| 05:33.18 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: its not a acrash exactly. It just dissappears |
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| 05:33.32 | JW | I've got someone in another channel telling me they can burn Cds and DVDs in their bl*r*y drive but they've never tried a BD disc |
| 05:33.34 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: strange... let me see pastebin |
| 05:33.55 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: That should work imo. but you may be outta luck regarding BD |
| 05:34.22 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: o.o that log is completely normal... are you sure it's not minimized to tray or something? |
| 05:34.27 | PhrkOnLsh | killall -9 kopete; kopete |
| 05:34.28 | JW | boo-hoo. I wanted 50GB backup discs for archiving ;'( |
| 05:35.36 | PhrkOnLsh | !!! it looks like I may be wrong?? |
| 05:35.42 | PhrkOnLsh | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD <-- Ubuntu reads the disks |
| 05:38.01 | PhrkOnLsh | http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ |
| 05:38.05 | PhrkOnLsh | is learning o.o |
| 05:38.55 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: try it. :) |
| 05:39.11 | PhrkOnLsh | I can't say I support blu-ray video, but that is a nice turn of events. |
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| 05:39.37 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: no its not in tray |
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| 05:39.54 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: did you try that killall -9? |
| 05:39.55 | jithine | it completely dissappeard |
| 05:40.09 | PhrkOnLsh | perhaps it's misbehaving and just needs a good kick |
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| 05:40.36 | JW | PhrkOnLsh: yeah some folks in #SuSE just told me that cdrecord supports it: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html |
| 05:40.39 | PhrkOnLsh | if the first kopete did something bad but didn't actually kill the process KDE might just be trying to connect to the broken kopete rather than starting a new one |
| 05:40.46 | PhrkOnLsh | JW: I had no idea about that! :) |
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| 05:41.04 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: there is no running processes. I will try restarting. It started after some package updates in morning. |
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| 05:41.16 | webbi | hello |
| 05:41.31 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: gl :( |
| 05:41.33 | PhrkOnLsh | hi |
| 05:41.50 | webbi | im looking for some help to use marble qt widget... is there any appropiate channel to ask? |
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| 05:42.34 | PhrkOnLsh | webbi: qt widget? you mean plasma widget, or...? |
| 05:43.27 | webbi | PhrkOnLsh: no, the marble "plugin" to use in a qt app |
| 05:43.42 | PhrkOnLsh | oic, try #kde-devel |
| 05:43.44 | webbi | PhrkOnLsh: it's the one that appear as "for developers" in marble website |
| 05:43.48 | webbi | great |
| 05:43.49 | webbi | thanks! |
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| 05:58.33 | massimo | Hi. With old klipper on kde 3.5.10, is it possible to set entries as sticky, so that they won't get lost after a while? |
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| 06:00.47 | JW | massimo: that's an interesting idea. If you don't get an answer - please submit a feature request on that |
| 06:01.47 | massimo | JW: Does KDE4 have this feature? |
| 06:02.02 | JW | massimo: no idea, I don't use KDE4 yet |
| 06:02.41 | massimo | Anyone knows? If so, a feature request for KDE3 would be useless.. |
| 06:03.15 | JW | true |
| 06:03.29 | JW | I'm using 3.5 right now |
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| 06:03.38 | JW | and I can tell you I don't see any sticky setting |
| 06:03.44 | JW | but I dn't know about 4.x |
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| 06:03.51 | PhrkOnLsh | massimo: imo not in 4.x |
| 06:03.56 | PhrkOnLsh | just tried a couple of different things |
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| 06:14.45 | factor | how can I reset the keymapping in kde to default |
| 06:14.50 | jithine | PhrkOnLsh: kopete worked after restart. |
| 06:15.11 | PhrkOnLsh | ok, coll :) |
| 06:15.13 | PhrkOnLsh | cool* |
| 06:15.29 | jithine | there is one plasma related issue I am facing on mounting a 320 gb usb disk |
| 06:15.36 | jithine | with over 200 gb full |
| 06:15.45 | jithine | it freezes for some seconds |
| 06:16.17 | jithine | mounting happens correctly. I can browse the files in disk from konsole |
| 06:16.47 | PhrkOnLsh | it may be doing something like waiting for HAL, or indexing files or something... |
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| 06:18.00 | jithine | but its highly annoying as it happens everytime I mount a disk |
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| 06:21.51 | PhrkOnLsh | jithine: sounds like you need to file a bug report :] Some coder will be much more help than $irc_user |
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| 06:22.24 | jithine | i already did. thought I might find someone with same issue if its a bug |
| 06:23.33 | PhrkOnLsh | oic |
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| 07:38.26 | alpha_one_x86 | Hello, I try use Xvnc as X server on kdm, it work alone, my kdmrc: http://pastebin.com/m3053ee34 , I have edited ServerCmd= |
| 07:39.20 | alpha_one_x86 | where have log? |
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| 07:48.48 | Cynner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:49.50 | Jucato | Cynner: do not spam the channel |
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| 07:54.59 | alpha_one_x86 | Some body can help my for found log of kdm ? |
| 07:55.47 | Jucato | try /var/log/ |
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| 08:04.58 | alpha_one_x86 | nothing in /var/log/ it's kdm.... |
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| 08:17.20 | Guest68504 | hello, I get a crash with KMail, but the backtrace seems to be incomplete |
| 08:17.29 | Guest68504 | it starts with #6: https://pastebin.ca/1511959 |
| 08:17.40 | Guest68504 | any ideas how to get the first few lines? |
| 08:18.10 | Guest68504 | I'm using Gentoo Linux and have compiled kdelibs and most kdepim packages with debug flags (incl. -ggdb) |
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| 08:19.35 | Guest68504 | this is the code line where the backtrace points to: KMAcctCachedImap::GroupwareType groupwareType = dynamic_cast<KMFolderCachedImap *>( folderParent->storage() )->account()->groupwareType(); |
| 08:19.46 | vixta | hi all |
| 08:20.07 | vixta | i am install vixta |
| 08:20.33 | vixta | but not like vista start menu |
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| 08:43.35 | eggy_ | Hello, using kubuntu the akonadi server fails to start any time I try to open a program such as kopete. This is the error log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/131653/ . How do I solve this? |
| 08:43.44 | eggy_ | Or how can I tell KDE to not use this akonadi server? |
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| 08:51.55 | arkascha | how can I switch from icons+text to only icons in konqueror ? |
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| 08:53.27 | cb400f | arkascha: right click toolbar -> text placment -> icons only |
| 08:53.34 | cb400f | isn't icons only the default for konq? |
| 08:54.38 | arkascha | cb400f: *thanks*, I found all kde settings removed this morning (argh!) due to some upgrade yesterday I didnt realize :-) |
| 08:55.08 | Jucato | the kde default is text under icon. you can change the global default in System Settings -> Appearance -> Style -> Fine tuning tab |
| 08:55.10 | cb400f | yikes :-) |
| 08:55.15 | Jucato | (dunno if they changed the default for 4.3) |
| 08:55.51 | cb400f | I have text under icons globally.. with the exception of konq.. maybe that's a suse tweak then |
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| 08:57.27 | arkascha | I still have trouble defining application shortcuts. Definitions in the menu editor are ignored. What is the current way to define 'em ? |
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| 09:02.17 | arkascha | Personal Settings > Global Shortcuts > khotkeys defines about 50 instances for running 'kcalc'. And not button to remove 'em. Where are these definitions stored ? |
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| 09:08.21 | JohnBat26 | hello |
| 09:08.30 | JohnBat26 | I use kopete 0.70.4 |
| 09:08.42 | JohnBat26 | But I don't connect to ICQ |
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| 09:08.56 | JohnBat26 | Q: How I may connect to ICQ? |
| 09:09.57 | tdn | How do I install a PDF printer so that I can print all kinds of documents to a PDF file? |
| 09:10.01 | tdn | I have installed the package cups-pdf, and this seems to provide a PDF printer. Although nothing happens, when I print to this PDF printer. Where do the PDF file go? |
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| 09:11.24 | Jucato | tdn: in the Print dialog choose Print to file (PDF)? |
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| 09:13.41 | tdn | Jucato, yes, but where do the file go? It is not in ~/PDF |
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| 09:14.27 | Jucato | if you didn't set an explicit directory in the print dialog, it will be in ~/print.pdf |
| 09:14.37 | Jucato | (you have to set a path and filename) |
| 09:15.08 | tdn | Jucato, that file does not exist. |
| 09:15.17 | tdn | Jucato, I have tried Print Test Page in settings. |
| 09:15.28 | tdn | Jucato, and tried printing af test document from Kate. |
| 09:15.37 | tdn | With just the string Hello World in it. |
| 09:16.21 | Jucato | um... I don't have such Print Test Page and no "settings" either |
| 09:16.38 | Jucato | maybe it's Untitled.pdf? check your home directory |
| 09:16.51 | tdn | Jucato, it is not in the print dialog, but in System Settings > Advanced > Printers. |
| 09:17.18 | Jucato | then I don't know. I don't have that either |
| 09:17.30 | tdn | Ok. |
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| 09:18.20 | Jucato | dunno what cups-pdf is anyway. didn't have to add any PDF printer. just the normal Print to File (PDF) that comes with any KDE install |
| 09:18.31 | sxe | hi |
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| 09:19.05 | tdn | Jucato, in dmesg I get this message: [ 6822.044291] type=1503 audit(1248945515.254:16): operation="capable" name="dac_read_search" pid=9558 profile="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" |
| 09:20.07 | tdn | Jucato, in Firefox, if I do File > Print, I see this: Printer: PDF; Status: /usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf failed |
| 09:20.35 | Jucato | sorry, no idea |
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| 09:29.32 | cire | To use those KWIN4 3D features, what should the 3D driver be able to have implemented? Does this have to do with opengl or sth? Is KMS needed? (using radeon with R6xx) |
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| 09:31.04 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 09:36.37 | cb400f | cire: why don't you just try if it works? ;-) |
| 09:37.06 | cb400f | kwin can use opengl or xrender.. pretty sure kms isn't required |
| 09:37.29 | cb400f | but far from an expert in the magic that goes on there |
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| 09:42.30 | OliverKrueger | I have an issue with the update-notifier in kde 4.2.2: I have blocked packages, which should stay blocked. I get notified on updates for those everyday, making the notify icon stay permanent. Im missing important updates this way. |
| 09:42.38 | OliverKrueger | Any chance to configure this behaviour? |
| 09:42.40 | pinotree | OliverKrueger: #kubuntu |
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| 09:43.44 | OliverKrueger | pinotree: is this a kubuntu-only problem? |
| 09:43.47 | pinotree | yep |
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| 09:44.05 | OliverKrueger | k, thanks anyway. ;) |
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| 10:00.09 | cire | cb400f: It does not work, so I'd like to know when it WILL work. FOllowing Radeon Driver news I get information about which features are or will be implemented |
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| 10:00.26 | cire | so I could estimate when those 3D things will work |
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| 10:01.47 | cb400f | maybe there's a #kwin where the experts hang out |
| 10:02.30 | cire | it's not that urgent... just read about KMS coming to radeon making this question coming to my minf |
| 10:02.32 | cire | mind |
| 10:02.56 | cb400f | doesn't r6xx use radeonhd? |
| 10:03.13 | cb400f | has intel and old nvidia |
| 10:03.25 | cire | you can choose which driver you like |
| 10:03.57 | cb400f | and you think radeon works better than radeonhd for you? |
| 10:04.04 | cire | radeonHD is a driver written by OS people, while Radeon is written by Novell People (which one could title as "OS people", too ;) ) |
| 10:04.18 | cire | it sworks really good |
| 10:04.27 | cb400f | It's the other way around... |
| 10:04.35 | cire | ohh, really? |
| 10:04.43 | cb400f | and novell fired half the radeonhd people in recent layoffs :-( |
| 10:05.02 | cb400f | non-novell people work on it too |
| 10:05.08 | cire | Radeon is Alex Deucher, right? And Alex Deucher is novell I thought |
| 10:05.55 | cb400f | novell might invest in radeon too.. but they surely work with amd/ati on radeonhd |
| 10:06.45 | cire | that's weird |
| 10:06.54 | cire | so Novell supports both, radeon and radeonHD? |
| 10:07.24 | Zarin | cire, how much do you know about OpenGL? I can give you some specifics on what the minimum requirements of KWin are |
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| 10:08.46 | cire | Zarin: I'm not too deep into that topic, but openGL as an requirement for KWIN4 3D features is enough information for me ;) |
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| 10:09.09 | Zarin | There is XRender mode as well for KWin, but that doesn't have any fancy stuff |
| 10:09.28 | Zarin | I believe the ATI driver already supports XRender |
| 10:09.35 | cire | All I want to have is the effect with the edges. Move mouse to an edge and action happens ;) |
| 10:09.50 | cire | I think this is one of the best imrpovements fpr usabilkity I ever saw |
| 10:09.58 | cire | sorry for the mistypings |
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| 10:11.13 | Zarin | For full KWin support the driver requires OpenGL 2.0, GLX 1.2 and GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap. |
| 10:11.29 | cire | okay, that's something I can have an eye on |
| 10:11.43 | Zarin | So far the only working driver that supports all that is the nVidia one |
| 10:11.47 | cire | thanks for the detailed information |
| 10:11.53 | cire | intel doesn't? |
| 10:11.56 | Zarin | Nope |
| 10:11.59 | cire | heard a lot about their efforts |
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| 10:12.18 | cire | even Radeon with R500 isn't supported? |
| 10:12.23 | Zarin | Intel driver only supports OpenGL 1.5 I think in the latest version |
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| 10:12.38 | cire | okay |
| 10:12.59 | Zarin | KWin can fallback for worse drivers, no idea what the r500 supports |
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| 10:14.20 | cire | I believe I have to wait until 2.6.31 or 32 to get it work at a minimum |
| 10:14.38 | cire | "end of this summer" is said (sometimes) by the people in #radeon |
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| 10:14.49 | cire | but not officially |
| 10:14.59 | Zarin | Maybe you can check in #radeon? |
| 10:15.15 | Zarin | Ah, you already checked in there |
| 10:15.17 | cire | They don't like question like "when will feature X be implemented". And I can understand that ;) |
| 10:15.21 | cire | "When it's done" :) |
| 10:15.37 | Zarin | KWin will be the best WM ever once it's done |
| 10:16.14 | cire | I also believe that. I like the ansatz to only include stuff which improves usability and not fancy stuff without any real purpose |
| 10:17.04 | Zarin | "Ansatz"? |
| 10:17.16 | cire | approach |
| 10:17.28 | cire | I learned that the german term "ansatz" also works in english |
| 10:17.54 | Zarin | According to Google and Wikipedia it has something to do with mathematics O_o |
| 10:17.57 | cire | (read the word in an eglish paper and wondered where the german term comes from) ;) |
| 10:18.11 | oneforall | where is tha little app with the skull to click on an app and it kills it ? |
| 10:18.17 | oneforall | kde4 |
| 10:18.23 | cire | perhaps it's domain is bounded |
| 10:18.30 | cb400f | oneforall: ctrl+alt+esc ? |
| 10:18.55 | Zarin | xkill |
| 10:18.55 | oneforall | na kde3 it was under a sub in util. |
| 10:19.11 | oneforall | yeah that snds like it |
| 10:20.11 | oneforall | ah just done it from konsole :) |
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| 10:47.35 | tuxick | once again konqueror using 97% CPU lagging my entire system |
| 10:48.01 | tuxick | surely i'm not the only one having such issues? |
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| 10:48.37 | Beyecixramd | I don't have problems with Konqueror in KDEmod 4.2, on Arch Linux |
| 10:48.45 | cb400f | tuxick: the rest of us blame Adobe :-) |
| 10:48.46 | Beyecixramd | neither Dolphin gives me problems :S |
| 10:49.22 | TaperHarley | hi. I have kde 3.5.10 and 4.2.4 installed. if I ditch kde 3.5.10 will I free some diskspace? |
| 10:49.43 | tuxick | cb400f: you mean that nsplugin)(*$)(%# thing? |
| 10:50.28 | cb400f | well.. I don't blame that either.. I blame the adobe flash-player plugin :-) |
| 10:50.35 | Beyecixramd | gnash FTW |
| 10:50.37 | Beyecixramd | =) |
| 10:50.42 | tuxick | but still, that means the api is rather screwy |
| 10:50.50 | tuxick | since it's konq ending up lagging like hell |
| 10:51.23 | tuxick | i have no idea how the components communicate but they're not doing it right |
| 10:52.36 | TaperHarley | I only have one issue with kde 4.2.4. when the screensaver comes up and noone wisks it away for a while it'll ask for a password :( |
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| 10:54.40 | tuxick | Beyecixramd: gnash is a bad joke |
| 10:54.48 | tuxick | it can't even handle garfield!! |
| 10:54.51 | brot | TaperHarley: thats configurable, by the way. |
| 10:55.21 | Beyecixramd | tuxick: flashplugin is a worse joke :D |
| 10:55.25 | TaperHarley | that's exactly my problem it asks for a passw even though it shouldn't!!! |
| 10:56.31 | TaperHarley | and I don't know how to fix that |
| 10:57.22 | cb400f | how about disabling the screensaver as a workaround? |
| 10:57.41 | cb400f | .. or set the locking interval to a very high number of secs |
| 10:58.50 | TaperHarley | that's the point the "clock" screensaver is useful to me when I'm not using the box :) |
| 10:59.24 | TaperHarley | it's fun running a 220V clock :D |
| 10:59.35 | tuxick | and it's leaking memory somewhere |
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| 10:59.48 | tuxick | 400M for a basic site is not normal |
| 11:00.08 | TaperHarley | tuxick, check with firefox |
| 11:00.14 | TaperHarley | see how that uses |
| 11:00.31 | tuxick | it's memleak |
| 11:00.41 | tuxick | after restarting konq same site no problem |
| 11:01.11 | TaperHarley | firefox has a similar "feature" :P |
| 11:01.14 | tuxick | now waiting for system to crawl out of swap |
| 11:01.15 | tuxick | i know |
| 11:01.22 | tuxick | but for ff it's normal |
| 11:01.25 | tuxick | they use gtk |
| 11:01.34 | tuxick | "here's a void pointer, have fun" |
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| 11:20.07 | rindolf | I'm getting bitten by this bug - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201315 - is there any workaround? |
| 11:20.25 | pinotree | in 4.3rc3? no |
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| 11:53.43 | nowhereman | hi, I can't add new mime-type application association in krusader and konqueror, (kde 4.2.4) which package does provide this feature? |
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| 12:12.08 | thuswa | QXEmbed i not part of the kde4 api is that correct? TIA |
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| 12:16.27 | Sho_ | thuswa: #kde-devel |
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| 12:19.43 | thuswa | Sho: thanks, will do |
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| 12:38.06 | dcorbin_work | on 3.5, I had it configured so Meta+K would launch Konsole. 4.2 shows it configured that way, but isn't doing it. Any ideas? |
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| 13:10.26 | yt2005 | how do i use meta by itself to pop open klauncher? |
| 13:10.29 | TPC | hello, I have a strange problem with my printer |
| 13:10.36 | TPC | printing from one kde app (kmail) works fine |
| 13:10.47 | TPC | but when I try to print a pdf document from okular it doesn't print it |
| 13:11.18 | TPC | no error message or anything |
| 13:11.19 | pinotree | do you have the cups version of the `lpr` command available? |
| 13:11.28 | TPC | let me check |
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| 13:12.26 | TPC | the package called cups-bsd isn't installed, so I guess no |
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| 13:13.58 | TPC | I installed it, and now its working, thanks |
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| 13:14.09 | pinotree | np |
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| 13:30.36 | stuhlbein | hi, where do i find a documentation on howto write syntax highlighting files for katepart? i tried to write one for Kaya, but Kate doesn't seem to be able to open it |
| 13:30.56 | stuhlbein | here is the file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/131701/ (its actually just a modified version of java.xml) |
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| 13:38.19 | Jucato | stuhlbein: you can try asking in #kate |
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| 13:38.40 | stuhlbein | okay |
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| 13:55.42 | dcorbin_work | In 3.5, I had an "applet/panel-widget" that show CPU and RAM usage in a bar graph. I cannot find it in the 4.2 widgets. Any ideas? |
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| 14:30.56 | henry-nicolas | Hello everybody, I would like to know if there are any release plans for the network-manager plugin applet, any info ? |
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| 14:46.20 | jthomas_sb | Does anyone know, is this http://www.h-online.com/open/Dispute-between-Linux-gurus-Alan-Cox-and-Linus-Torvalds--/news/113882 the reason for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdesudo/+bug/365956 ? |
| 14:46.48 | bline | two activities do not have a way to remove them, no red X when zoomed out |
| 14:46.55 | bline | how can I remove them? |
| 14:47.00 | bline | 4.3 RC3 |
| 14:48.18 | jthomas_sb | how can i launch the [alt][f2] KRunner dialog box from a command line or KMenu entry? |
| 14:49.26 | Jucato | jthomas_sb: qdbus org.kde.krunner /App display |
| 14:50.07 | jthomas_sb | nice, thanks Jucato. Not an easy command tho, 'krunner --dialog' would be nicer :) |
| 14:50.29 | Jucato | actually, "krunner" also works |
| 14:51.01 | Jucato | right-click on desktop -> Run Command too |
| 14:51.01 | jthomas_sb | ah, it does. didn't seem to yesterday, thanks. |
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| 15:12.31 | muhammadsyafiq | hello there? |
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| 15:15.05 | Mamarok | muhammadsyafiq: hi. If you have a question just ask :) |
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| 15:20.32 | spirov92 | hi. can I make digikam show .svg's? |
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| 15:22.32 | cookiemon5ter | anyone know how to change the kde start button in kde 4 |
| 15:22.44 | cookiemon5ter | I'm using 4.2.4 |
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| 15:29.17 | jthomas_sb | cookiemon5ter change what, they menu type? or the icon? menu type, it is just a different plasmoid so unloclk the plasma panel and add a new widget, search for menu. you may want to see if your repos have other plasmoids |
| 15:29.52 | jthomas_sb | or, right-click on the current KMenu to see if that is what you mean |
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| 15:30.19 | cookiemon5ter | the icon |
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| 15:30.35 | jthomas_sb | That I don't know, likely it is a distro-specific thing |
| 15:30.39 | cookiemon5ter | there is no option to change the icon |
| 15:31.04 | jthomas_sb | there isn't meant to be. google returned this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402672 |
| 15:31.22 | cookiemon5ter | i'm using gentoo |
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| 15:32.18 | jthomas_sb | did you look at the post and look in the path where it says to change the icons? |
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| 15:32.37 | jthomas_sb | gentoo or not, it may still be there. may not be. but it gives you an idea of what to look for. |
| 15:32.46 | cookiemon5ter | nothing there |
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| 15:41.23 | kickar | hey guys i have a problem with flash |
| 15:41.39 | kickar | it does work with mozilla but it doesnt with arora, modori or rqkonq |
| 15:41.44 | kickar | rekonq* |
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| 15:56.09 | jthomas_sb | how about with konqueror proper? |
| 15:56.32 | kickar | jthomas_sb, konqueroro ises kmplayer :) |
| 15:56.36 | kickar | i need a real browser :P |
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| 15:58.12 | jthomas_sb | ouch |
| 15:58.27 | jthomas_sb | i really like konqueror |
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| 16:00.46 | Nece228 | does panel resizing bug is going to be fixed in final kde 4.3 release? |
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| 16:59.49 | dcorbin_work | on 3.5, I had it configured so Meta+K would launch Konsole. 4.2 shows it configured that way, but isn't doing it. Any ideas? |
| 17:00.20 | neumaennl | um, maybe this is a stupid question, but how do I create a user in KDE4? I can't find any option for it in systemsettings. I'm on Debian sid. |
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| 17:01.41 | Freundlich | neumaennl: Why not use the useradd command? It is available only to root. |
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| 17:02.40 | neumaennl | Freundlich: ok, I'll take a look at it, thx |
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| 17:08.29 | Punker | Hi there. I'm having a problem with my KDE. After managing it on my linux distro channel (Slackware) we found that it wasn't an X error (like I expected) because xfce is actually working nice. So, what could I do? |
| 17:08.43 | Punker | By the way I can run KDE as root, but not as normal user. Everything seems OK. |
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| 17:15.49 | joshuajtl | does anyone know of a distro that is PURE kde4? |
| 17:16.10 | underscores | joshuajtl: havent you asked that before? .-. |
| 17:16.20 | joshuajtl | sorry have i? |
| 17:16.33 | joshuajtl | underscores: what do you run? |
| 17:16.41 | underscores | joshuajtl: Fedora11 |
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| 17:17.04 | joshuajtl | yeah not bad, but a lot of gnome... im considering trying kubuntu again... its been a while |
| 17:17.09 | joshuajtl | i left it for fedora in the past |
| 17:17.14 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: archlinux, gentoo |
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| 17:17.29 | joshuajtl | i like archlinux but it takes so long to install kde |
| 17:17.36 | joshuajtl | and everything else |
| 17:17.38 | lilltiger | long time? |
| 17:17.48 | joshuajtl | took me forever and then it failed so i gave up |
| 17:18.04 | lilltiger | archlinux is an binary dist.. |
| 17:18.16 | joshuajtl | i know still took a really long time |
| 17:18.40 | joshuajtl | im going to give kubuntu another try, if i hate it like i used to... ill try arch one more time |
| 17:18.46 | lilltiger | pacman -S kde and wait for 5min.. done |
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| 17:19.07 | lilltiger | unless you have crappy inet, but then it wont go faster with any other dist.. |
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| 17:21.14 | Punker | I'll check my KDE problem out later, See you, have fun. |
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| 17:47.44 | gnufied | Is it me or window switching has become slower in KDE 4.3 ? |
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| 17:59.13 | dcorbin_work | Is there a Panel Widget that shows me memory consumption? |
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| 18:21.11 | madsdyd | kde 4.2.2: Any one having "lag" problems with krunner - perhaps a solution? |
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| 18:22.15 | walery | hi |
| 18:22.44 | madsdyd | is amazed krunner has so many issues |
| 18:22.47 | walery | my font in KDE is very ugly |
| 18:22.51 | debugger | madsdyd: Wait a week :) |
| 18:22.57 | walery | can somebody tell my why |
| 18:22.58 | walery | ? |
| 18:23.03 | madsdyd | debugger: new version coming? |
| 18:23.09 | debugger | madsdyd: Yes, 4.3 |
| 18:23.27 | madsdyd | debugger: ok - I sure hope its working now |
| 18:23.28 | debugger | madsdyd: krunner is at least 10 times more stable |
| 18:23.57 | madsdyd | debugger: sounds great. I hit alt+f2 about 100 times a day, and the 3 second lag to show me a bloody icon makes me crazy :-) |
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| 18:24.42 | debugger | madsdyd: Wow, it's instantaneous here :/ |
| 18:25.07 | debugger | madsdyd: Same for me, i only use the menu for stuff i don't use often |
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| 18:25.39 | debugger | But since i have the windows syndrome at work, i remapped alt-f2 to win+R |
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| 18:30.10 | madsdyd | debugger: it lacks like hell, when it does its "expand and show icons". Probably related to the video driver, but if I do not use that, all sort of other things suck. Sigh |
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| 18:31.48 | madsdyd | if only it had an option to disable those icons. I really, really do not need them |
| 18:32.09 | debugger | madsdyd: What is your video card? |
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| 18:32.35 | madsdyd | debugger: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 |
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| 18:35.10 | debugger | madsdyd: I see :( And what driver do you use? |
| 18:35.18 | madsdyd | not sure, really, nothing in xorg |
| 18:35.22 | madsdyd | may show up in packages |
| 18:35.37 | madsdyd | no clue. |
| 18:35.41 | madsdyd | sorry |
| 18:35.52 | madsdyd | I am mostly in to bitching at this stage :-) |
| 18:36.01 | debugger | haha |
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| 18:36.05 | debugger | Ok:) |
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| 18:44.09 | Punker | Hi there. I'm having a problem with my KDE. After managing it on my linux distro channel (Slackware) we found that it wasn't an X error (like I expected) because xfce is actually working nice. So, what could I do? By the way I can run KDE as root, but not as normal user. Everything seems OK. |
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| 19:14.27 | Worf | hmm - i know i can "Block global shortcuts" for a application in kwin ( kde 3.5 ) - is there a way to block ... let's say "all but alt-tab"? |
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| 19:20.09 | madsdyd_dinner | Punker: check that you do not have any weird files owned by root in the normal users directory. |
| 19:20.41 | Punker | madsdyd_dinner, I just installed slackware so I guess there won't be any, but I'll |
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| 19:30.46 | rubyist | how can i remove pulseaudio & not KDE? |
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| 19:30.54 | rubyist | i.e: just remove pulseaudio & friends |
| 19:31.01 | rubyist | on kubuntu |
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| 19:33.28 | ink | i am using konqueror as a file manager ..some files/folders sometimes appear witha green tick on them ..anybody know what that means? |
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| 19:43.53 | cb400f | rubyist: ask in #kubuntu ? |
| 19:44.04 | rubyist | no answer |
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| 19:44.17 | rubyist | it seems near impossible, gr |
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| 19:45.51 | cb400f | must be a kubuntu packaging issue .. quite sure kde doesn't have any deps on it |
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| 19:46.23 | kriko | does anyone else have shadows under windows in kde 4.3 prerelease? without possibility to disable them.... |
| 19:47.50 | cb400f | you mean the little blue "light" around active windows? |
| 19:48.36 | kriko | cb400f: yes! |
| 19:48.42 | kriko | exactly |
| 19:49.04 | kriko | and grey around inactive ones |
| 19:49.15 | cb400f | hmm.. that effect does seem a little difficult to get rid of here too :-) |
| 19:50.00 | kriko | I see |
| 19:50.05 | kriko | probably a bug |
| 19:50.26 | kriko | but I'm not sure if it is ok to report it to upstream, since I use opensuse |
| 19:51.19 | cb400f | me too.. would be better if a non-suser could confirm too.. but on the other hand.. seli works for suse.. so it won't make much difference where it's reported ;-) |
| 19:51.42 | kriko | ok, I'll report it to kde bugs |
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| 19:52.48 | kriko | cb400f: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198704 |
| 19:52.52 | kriko | maybe this is it |
| 19:52.57 | kriko | but it's unconfirmed |
| 19:53.43 | cb400f | seems to be the same |
| 19:54.13 | tgillespie | hi all, i'm a bit confused about akonadi. Does it store data, e.g. calendar events, in its own database or just in an .ics file? So would it work without an ics resource added? |
| 19:54.48 | blueck | tgillespie: #akonadi |
| 19:54.58 | tgillespie | blueck thanks |
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| 19:55.27 | cb400f | tgillespie: may wanna check the GCDS videos on akonadi and kmail |
| 19:55.44 | tgillespie | cb400f ok thanks i'll have a google |
| 19:56.02 | cb400f | http://dot.kde.org/2009/07/28/gcds-slides-and-videos-online |
| 19:56.35 | tgillespie | thank :-) |
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| 19:58.39 | kriko | What is the difference between oxygen and ozone windeco? aren't the same? |
| 19:59.21 | kdepepo | kriko, they have different options. |
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| 20:01.46 | cb400f | kriko: the only difference more or less should be that ozone allows changing the colour |
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| 20:37.05 | Wreckage | hey |
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| 20:37.56 | Wreckage | i can't seem to be able to read the text on the little black dialogs that pop up |
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| 20:39.55 | Wreckage | unless i change window text under settings to white. but then all tabs and other things are white too, on grey so i cant see well |
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| 20:47.24 | nandersson | Hi! When in GNOME I have the "System Monitor"-plugin in the menu to see how much bandwidth I've consumed. Is there a similar way to see that in KDE? I.e how much I've downloaded, current recieving/rate, sending/rate? |
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| 20:48.10 | thiago_home | my distribution has one |
| 20:48.27 | underscores | nandersson: on kde4 I have a system monitor plasmoid :) |
| 20:48.36 | underscores | nandersson: add it via add widgets :) |
| 20:48.44 | nandersson | underscores, yeah? I'll do that! Thx! |
| 20:48.56 | cb400f | nandersson: knemo might be an option too |
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| 20:49.50 | cb400f | nandersson: also ksysguard has some network monitoring |
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| 20:57.24 | nandersson | cb400f, I'll have a look into that! As I'm on a cheap 3G-provider I want to keep track of the consumption more or less |
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| 21:19.08 | MakkaPakka | On a new machine, all my k* apps are showing up with an enourmous font size for menus etc.. The font setting are set to 9pt, but it's HUGE. I'm sure there's a setting somewhere that defines the pixels-per-pt, but where? |
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| 21:20.30 | MakkaPakka | ahh .. got it .. I have to "Force fonts DPI" for some reason. Though the highest setting is 120 and that's not quite enough |
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| 21:27.22 | thiago_home | MakkaPakka: the setting you're looking for is "monitor size" |
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| 21:29.16 | MakkaPakka | ahh thanks |
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| 21:30.57 | zorael_ | Does anyone know if there exists an equavilent to the Kicker "addon" that sorted gnome apps into its own little gnome subdivision, but for KDE4's kickoff? |
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| 21:36.53 | cuco | i am trying to run a kde application on my self compiled system and i get: <unknown program name>(29367)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server: "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." |
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| 21:37.14 | cuco | this is a clean user, to which i change via "su" in an konsole |
| 21:37.21 | cuco | any ideas what I messed up? |
| 21:37.42 | cb400f | try 'su -' |
| 21:37.47 | thiago_home | don't su |
| 21:38.34 | cuco | ssh -X kde4@localhost works... :) |
| 21:40.23 | cuco | "su - kde4" works as well, thanks |
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| 21:51.43 | white_pelican | is there any place I can get help with kopete? especially webcam? |
| 21:52.37 | thiago_home | #kopete |
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| 21:56.17 | holodoc | All hail holodoc! |
| 21:56.30 | holodoc | Just saying hello :) |
| 21:57.51 | k1lumin4t1 | basket |
| 21:57.55 | k1lumin4t1 | is it ready for kde 4 yet? |
| 21:58.23 | cb400f | it's not released.. but their git version works fairly well |
| 21:58.29 | cb400f | it's in progress |
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| 22:29.52 | zorael_ | Can I send a dbus call to a currently running Show Desktop plasma widget to make it trigger? |
| 22:30.00 | zorael_ | or just a dbus call to kwin to make it show the desktop? |
| 22:30.08 | zorael_ | I can't find it when browsing the calls, a bit confused |
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| 23:08.48 | aseigo | zorael_: you want to toggle the show desktop? we don't have dbus call for that (yet).. we're probably getting full dbus access to runtime plasma components, however, in 4.4 |
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| 23:09.57 | zorael_ | aseigo: okay. yeah, I was examining options for putting a script in my home folder to show the desktop, so I could access it via the quick folder widget and save screen budget by not having to have the full show desktop widget there |
| 23:10.12 | zorael_ | but couldn't find the dbus command in KWin, nor after adding the widget itself |
| 23:10.13 | zorael_ | :3 |
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| 23:27.10 | PhrkOnLsh | zorael_: I made a small perl script that just sends the hardware shortcut for show desktop, so in the end it's the same, if you want it. |
| 23:27.26 | PhrkOnLsh | hardware keys for the show desktop shortcut** |
| 23:27.30 | zorael_ | PhrkOnLsh: Ah, sure, would love that |
| 23:27.39 | PhrkOnLsh | sec. |
| 23:28.14 | PhrkOnLsh | well, it's for the plasma workbench, but you can change it easily |
| 23:28.36 | PhrkOnLsh | it's three lines ;D |
| 23:28.49 | PhrkOnLsh | though you need perl's X11:GUITest |
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| 23:29.31 | PhrkOnLsh | it's actually really not that great of a script... |
| 23:29.58 | zorael_ | my perl-fu is practically nonexistent ;3 |
| 23:31.14 | PhrkOnLsh | http://pastie.org/566049 http://sf.net/projects/x11guitest/ |
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| 23:31.37 | PhrkOnLsh | meh, this needs some cleaning up |
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| 23:32.40 | zorael_ | PhrkOnLsh: I'll give that a go in a bit, many thanks |
| 23:32.52 | PhrkOnLsh | zorael_: no guarantees :) |
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