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00:28.19 | jalbney | hello |
00:28.28 | JabberWokky | Hello. |
00:28.32 | jalbney | i have a question about kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron with kde 3.5.10 |
00:28.43 | LnxSlck__ | ask away |
00:29.41 | jalbney | so i just did a fresh install from a live cd. i really dont need all the packages that came with it. since i have no blank cds or usb flash drives, is there a way to get just the basic kdecore? |
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00:29.47 | jalbney | i dont want to update my 8.04 or my kde 3 |
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00:31.43 | rstizza | hello, anybody know how to remove a service from the script of kdeinit, on kde 4.3 ? |
00:31.51 | jalbney | can i uninstall everything but what i want, or is there a way to run my live cd and just install a minimal version?? |
00:32.22 | JabberWokky | rstizza: Services are in your control panel. |
00:32.49 | JabberWokky | jalbney: #kubuntu would be a better channel to ask the question, as it has more to do with the distro and packages than the actual KDE desktop. |
00:33.55 | JabberWokky | rstizza: Advanced tab, Service Manager. |
00:34.17 | JabberWokky | rstizza: If you're talking about an app that is autostarting, Advanced tab, Autostart. |
00:34.36 | jalbney | i did not get any replies there |
00:34.44 | jalbney | and i'm desperate!!! |
00:34.59 | rstizza | yes, but, for example I want to remove gnome networkmanager from the start, and it doesn t apear |
00:35.15 | JabberWokky | jalbney: Sunday evening is a bad time for IRC help. Sorry... it's all volunteers here, and anybody who can answer will. |
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00:35.28 | jalbney | i understand lol |
00:35.32 | JabberWokky | rstizza: Checked in autostart? |
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00:36.09 | rstizza | in autostart doesn t apear too :( |
00:36.49 | JabberWokky | Hunh. Okay, I can tell you a couple places in the filesystem to check, if you are comfortable doing that. |
00:37.49 | rstizza | okey |
00:38.23 | JabberWokky | *IF* you are comfortable looking, you can start looking in $HOME/.config/autostart/ , and then /usr/share/autostart/ |
00:39.13 | rstizza | $HOME/.config/autostart/ is empty |
00:40.46 | rstizza | and in /usr/share/autostart/ does not apear gnome network manager |
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00:43.13 | JabberWokky | Do you know the desktop file for it (I know nothing about gnome) |
00:43.15 | JabberWokky | ? |
00:44.05 | rstizza | as I know the name is nm-applet |
00:44.26 | rstizza | sorry for my bad english, I m from Argentina |
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00:45.17 | JabberWokky | Try searching for it. A "locate nm-applet.desktop" may work if you have updatedb installed and the filename matches. (And don't worry about the English; we're communicating fine) |
00:46.03 | rdieter | one place to look is /etc/xdg/autostart |
00:46.10 | JabberWokky | Otherwise, just do a search on your harddrive for all files with nm-applet in the name, looking for a desktop file located in a startup directory. Yes, it's vague, but without knowing gnome, it would be the next place I'd go. |
00:46.20 | JabberWokky | Check that... try rdieter's suggestion. |
00:46.44 | JabberWokky | As /etc/xdg/autostart is the system level version of the first place I gave you. |
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00:54.51 | leandroal | I use gentoo with gnome, but I run some kde applications such as kile. In Kile, instead of it outputs ç, it outputs Ä. How to fix this? |
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00:57.38 | rstizza | okey I m going to try, thanks a lot |
00:58.38 | rstizza | yeaah, it s in /etc/xdg/autostart |
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00:58.51 | rstizza | thank you a lot :) |
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01:03.15 | solifugus | So what's happening in the future of KDE, what's the focus on future improvements right now? |
01:04.15 | JabberWokky | solifugus: Psychic projection and mind control in Solid. World domination plasmoid. You know, same old, same old. |
01:04.39 | break19 | sounds good to me, when can we test it out>? |
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01:21.19 | rstizza | jajaja |
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01:22.38 | solifugus | I installed ubuntu with gnome last friday on my main desktop at home... I've been using kde since version 1.0 and loved every successive release until kde 4. I sincerely want to see a resurrection of its former user-friendliness but need to get work done.. I found gnome to just-work for me... and kde 4 is still not so well. |
01:22.52 | solifugus | So I'd just like to have some idea what the future is for kde.. |
01:22.55 | JabberWokky | Okay. |
01:24.52 | solifugus | right now, i am mostly annoyed by getting my wireless working.. firefox comes up and shows a bunch of cannot show offline content messages, then comes kwallet's dialog for entering my password so my wireless will connect, then while typing in the password, six more windows open and my keys enter randomly into various windows wreaking all kinds of havoc. |
01:25.12 | JabberWokky | So, don't use KDE. |
01:25.26 | solifugus | JabberWokky: I'd like kde to be fixed. |
01:25.31 | JabberWokky | Or rather, KDE4. |
01:25.38 | JabberWokky | Okay, then fix it. |
01:25.57 | solifugus | Yeah.. I tried using 3 but distros don't seem to be supporting it anymore.. |
01:26.26 | JabberWokky | Ubuntu does. There is a KDE3 Kubuntu release. |
01:26.54 | solifugus | JabberWokky: fixing kde means fixing people... i am not sure kde developers believe it has gone downhill in user friendliness and such. |
01:27.24 | JabberWokky | So then, don't use it. |
01:27.28 | JabberWokky | It's a choice. |
01:27.40 | JabberWokky | Some people are making it, and you can use it or not. |
01:27.41 | solifugus | JabberWokky: sure... kubuntu does have kde 3, but that version of kubuntu doesn't support a variety of other apps I need.. and my volume control doesn't work in it.. |
01:28.11 | JabberWokky | I REALLY don't like Coca-cola or Pepsi. Can you meake them fix it for me? |
01:28.47 | solifugus | JabberWokky: yes.. sure.. but is that really how it works? no vision or concern for users and usability? |
01:28.57 | solifugus | just.. if you don't like what we're doing, f u? |
01:29.06 | JabberWokky | I mean, seriously. What's the deal. If you don't like the public garden that a group of your neighbors is making on their own proerty and letting everybody use, then just don't go there. |
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01:29.12 | solifugus | isn't open source just a little about listening to user concerns? |
01:29.23 | solifugus | more than microsoft, for example? |
01:29.32 | solifugus | of just.. f u? |
01:29.35 | JabberWokky | Yes. I like the direction it's going. |
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01:29.43 | JabberWokky | So you're saying F U to my tastes? |
01:30.02 | JabberWokky | You're demanding they stop making things I like and throw them out to service your tastes? |
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01:30.28 | solifugus | not at all, an old principle that came out strongly in kde v 2 was that of choice in everything... adaptability to style.. as gnome took a turn toward uniform style. |
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01:31.02 | JabberWokky | solifugus: If you don't like it, fix it. Don't demand that volunteers contributing time cater to your needs. |
01:31.13 | JabberWokky | Otherwise, take it as a gift. |
01:31.16 | solifugus | JabberWokky: are you a developer of kde? |
01:31.24 | JabberWokky | If you don't like your gift, you don't have to take it. |
01:31.40 | JabberWokky | No, but I develop other open source software. |
01:31.43 | solifugus | and I have no right to care? |
01:31.56 | solifugus | just f me? |
01:32.16 | solifugus | no listening to concerns.. no anything but a nasty attitude? |
01:32.24 | JabberWokky | You can care. You can cajole... but making demands of volunteers... would you do that if you were face to face with somebody handing you a gift they made? |
01:32.25 | solifugus | and arrogance? |
01:32.26 | JabberWokky | Honestly. |
01:32.27 | JabberWokky | Tell me. |
01:32.35 | solifugus | <PROTECTED> |
01:32.41 | solifugus | I asked for a listening ear. |
01:32.53 | solifugus | actually, I first just asked for what the future direction is.. |
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01:33.03 | JabberWokky | would you look at a fellow human being who spent years of his life working on a project out of passion and vision and then went to share it with the world... |
01:33.21 | JabberWokky | you would seriously demand that it be changed and say "I don't use it anyway" |
01:34.00 | solifugus | I didn't............................. |
01:34.13 | JabberWokky | Do you go to picnics and say "Holy crap, this salad sucks! It used to be much much better... switch back to the old recipie or fix it for me!" |
01:35.08 | solifugus | I write software also, and I find the most helpful thing I can get from users in their feedback.......... It's a two way process... and it's not demands, usually.. |
01:35.20 | JabberWokky | solifugus: Look... your query for help is valid. Your demands that it be vaguely "fixed" are not. |
01:35.21 | solifugus | one-way software is software for no one, ultimately. |
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01:36.00 | JabberWokky | There's an entire system in place to register feature requests and handle bugs, both of which can be voted on by the community to increase prominance to developers. |
01:36.03 | solifugus | JabberWokky: only I didn't make a demand............. you read it that way. "I'd like to see it fixed" is not the same as "fix this, you idiot" |
01:36.36 | solifugus | sure.. but my main question was........ what is the primary focus.. the current direction of what is being worked on. |
01:37.19 | JabberWokky | Whatever the volunteers are working on, with a little back end support from overlapping needs from some companies sponsoring work on things. |
01:38.06 | solifugus | ok fine |
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01:45.49 | Tomasu | this is strange, in kmail (1.12.1) the folder list is showing unread messages, while I can't see any in the message list at all. |
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01:46.30 | JabberWokky | Dumb thought -- did you set the font and color to be the same for both read and unread messages? I saw somebody do that once. |
01:46.45 | leandroal | in gnome ç works correct, but it kde it appears like this: Ä. How can I fix this? |
01:46.49 | rellin | is it just me or are apple widgets broken in kde 4.3.1 |
01:46.54 | Tomasu | nope. It actually has (N) beside the name too |
01:46.56 | leandroal | in gnome ç works correct, but in kde it appears like this: Ä. How can I fix this? |
01:47.05 | Tomasu | where N is the number of unread messages it thinks there are |
01:47.12 | Tomasu | and it slowly increases |
01:48.08 | Tomasu | I've actually found the unread message, it was burried in a thread that was marked "important", but somehow not showing up when I asked it to filter to show unread messages |
01:48.28 | dotCOMmie | I'm running kde4 (debian testing) and having some issues with bluetooth the icon is gray and shows "no bluetooth adapter". rfcomm shows the device. Is there a good way to troubleshoot whats going on? |
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01:55.27 | Alumin_ | Tomasu: do you have a filter active maybe? |
01:55.51 | Alumin_ | oh n/m didn't read far enough heh |
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01:56.14 | Tomasu | the only one active at the time is the "unread messages" filter. it should be showing the message, but it seems to miss it |
01:57.06 | Tomasu | my guess is it has something to do with that its in a thread marked "important". they also don't open up like other threads with new messages when the folder is opened |
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01:59.52 | break19 | I just wish I could set the "root directory" in kmail's imap/disconnected imap accounts... |
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02:01.59 | bpun | dotCOMmie, there's probbly bluetooth kde service, i know there are console commands though |
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02:05.14 | dotCOMmie | kde console commands? |
02:05.33 | Tomasu | break19: know what else would be nice? being able to sort by arival date, not the date the email has in it (which is often wrong...) |
02:05.57 | break19 | amen |
02:09.17 | Tomasu | night |
02:10.02 | Alumin_ | break19: isn't that what "Accounts -> Advanced -> Namespaces" is for? |
02:10.16 | Alumin_ | maybe it's not, I don't know that much about IMAP :P |
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02:27.36 | leandroal | in gnome ç works correct, but in kde it appears like this: Ä. How can I fix this? |
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02:49.56 | RyanMcCoskrie | Why do my panels change size when I disable compositing? |
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02:56.30 | oneforall | err other than the pionter I couldn't click on nothing . I used the alt+tab and in konsole I did the kwin --replace . Thats got the mouse workign again. But now all the darn setting like shading not the m$ style of expand >:( is gone etc . |
02:57.12 | oneforall | now I try to enable the effects and none are working . Disable and reenable a few times and nothing |
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03:00.28 | oneforall | hmm Titlebar Actions > Titlebar d\ouble-click:Shade . its still on shade but its not working O.o |
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03:20.23 | biohazrd | I start firefox with kde 4.3.1 and I get a bouncing ff logo for a while. why? |
03:20.41 | JabberWokky | biohazrd: You have launch notification turned on. |
03:20.56 | biohazrd | is that in the settings menu? |
03:20.56 | JabberWokky | You can turn it off in System Settings, or you can turn it off just for Firefox in the menu editor. |
03:21.03 | biohazrd | sorry, i just switched from gnome. |
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03:21.38 | JabberWokky | No worries. I'm actually heading out. If nobody else helps you, the phrase to Google is KDE4 Launch notification. |
03:21.43 | JabberWokky | Good luck! |
03:21.50 | biohazrd | lol |
03:21.52 | biohazrd | good deal |
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03:22.21 | biohazrd | wow |
03:22.27 | biohazrd | found the notification menu.. |
03:22.28 | biohazrd | but long |
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03:38.12 | magicblaze0071 | where can i find free high quality icons for my application? |
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03:40.23 | oneforall | darn am I going to have to resrt kde here to get this working :( |
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03:53.51 | PhrkOnLsh | magicblaze0071: the ones included in oxygen are Free. |
03:54.07 | PhrkOnLsh | elsewise you may get nuno to help you out, if it's a kde app |
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03:59.49 | magicblaze0071 | PhrkOnLsh: can u send me a link where i can find a thumbs up/down in oxygen? |
04:00.27 | PhrkOnLsh | magicblaze0071: ls /usr/share/icons/oxygen |
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04:02.13 | magicblaze0071 | anywhere on the web i can see them? |
04:03.08 | PhrkOnLsh | http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ |
04:03.22 | magicblaze0071 | PhrkOnLsh: I went there, but cant find a thumbsup/down. |
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04:05.08 | PhrkOnLsh | oxygen has a couple thousand icons, i'd be surprised if there WASNT one. |
04:05.28 | biohazrd | kde4 looks nice |
04:05.41 | utku | magicblaze0071: maybe you can try searching files at /usr/share/icons/oxygen |
04:06.23 | biohazrd | I added a panel within a panel and cant seem to get the second panel aligned right |
04:08.04 | magicblaze0071 | no thum in that grep...no file named thum* :( |
04:09.22 | magicblaze0071 | how can i view svgz files? |
04:09.46 | PhrkOnLsh | with a program that can view svgz? |
04:09.48 | PhrkOnLsh | ducks |
04:09.56 | PhrkOnLsh | magicblaze0071: I take it you aren't running KDE right now then? |
04:10.31 | magicblaze0071 | just opened them in konqueror |
04:10.43 | PhrkOnLsh | yup |
04:10.50 | magicblaze0071 | they dont show... |
04:10.51 | PhrkOnLsh | that's what I was going to say ^^ |
04:10.56 | magicblaze0071 | they all show as one icon |
04:10.58 | PhrkOnLsh | they should... |
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04:14.08 | oneforall | try View>Preview |
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04:15.55 | magicblaze0071 | tomorrow, just shutdown my linux box. |
04:15.57 | magicblaze0071 | g'nite |
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04:17.36 | PhrkOnLsh | I had a good idea for a service menu last night but i forgot it :( |
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04:23.50 | oneforall | darn I got to much going on how the heck do I get it to have all the effects and setting working ? |
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04:24.21 | oneforall | goto double click and have it shade and it does that windows way :( |
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04:28.31 | biohazrd | is there some trick i am missing at adding a custom application to a panel to launch? |
04:28.45 | biohazrd | its not really a widget |
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04:51.16 | biohazrd | crap, i guess cant drag an application out of the application menu and rename it without it deleting the original from the menu |
04:52.55 | biohazrd | odd you can't right click on the panel and add a custom icon and path |
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04:54.06 | PhrkOnLsh | biohazrd: go into /usr/share/applications and steal the .desktop file out of there and edit it. |
04:54.43 | biohazrd | PhrkOnLsh, how do I get the other application back? |
04:55.04 | PhrkOnLsh | uhhh i don't remember how to remake the menu's sorry :( |
04:55.06 | crazy_pete | and u can really add a custom icon and path although (imo) it should be more direct. The only way i know to to it is to add an app from the menu to the panel, and then customise it as you please |
04:55.41 | biohazrd | crazy_pete, i did that, but after I change the path and icon, it removed the original app in the menu |
04:55.57 | crazy_pete | no way |
04:56.02 | biohazrd | jup way |
04:56.06 | crazy_pete | has to check that out |
04:56.19 | biohazrd | i drug the blender icon to the panel |
04:56.22 | biohazrd | then edited it. |
04:56.28 | biohazrd | now blender is no longer in the menu |
04:56.41 | biohazrd | shouldnt do that |
04:56.58 | biohazrd | i reinstalled blender hoping it would come back |
04:56.59 | crazy_pete | wow i am sorry biohazrd |
04:56.59 | biohazrd | no luck |
04:57.20 | crazy_pete | you have to rename the desktop file and i SWEAR it let me do that from the panel menu once <grins sheepishly> |
04:58.03 | biohazrd | i havent tried the desktop menu |
04:58.06 | biohazrd | er icon |
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04:59.08 | biohazrd | well the blender.desktop is still in /usr/share/applications |
04:59.19 | biohazrd | just need to figure out how to regenerate menus i guess |
05:00.00 | crazy_pete | wow i dunno |
05:00.03 | crazy_pete | it just worked again |
05:00.25 | biohazrd | you dragged an icon/app off the K menu onto a panel? |
05:00.30 | biohazrd | then renamed it |
05:00.32 | crazy_pete | nofpu, i copied it |
05:00.34 | crazy_pete | er |
05:00.37 | crazy_pete | nofpu, i copied it |
05:00.45 | crazy_pete | n0 i copied it |
05:00.50 | crazy_pete | that was weird |
05:00.58 | biohazrd | copy? |
05:01.09 | crazy_pete | add application to panel |
05:01.13 | crazy_pete | from the panel menu |
05:01.21 | crazy_pete | but it seems to save it in the same desktop file |
05:01.49 | biohazrd | thats what i am sturggling with i guess |
05:02.02 | biohazrd | i dont; see a way to add an application to the panel by clicking on the panel |
05:02.28 | biohazrd | i only get widgets, add and lock, edit panel. |
05:03.45 | biohazrd | somehow i closed the desktop window that had all the icons and folders from my gnome desktop and cant find it either :) |
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05:05.24 | crazy_pete | right click the panel please |
05:05.42 | crazy_pete | still doesnt let u rename the associate desktop file though |
05:06.23 | biohazrd | i can click on the icon and edit it |
05:06.31 | biohazrd | just seems like a clunky way of doing it. |
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05:06.40 | crazy_pete | yeah but it stays the same file name |
05:06.42 | crazy_pete | brb |
05:07.00 | biohazrd | should be able to right click on the panel and choose "add custom launcher" |
05:07.08 | biohazrd | something to that effect |
05:07.32 | biohazrd | my blender.desktop still exists in /usr/share/applications. |
05:07.52 | biohazrd | i think if i can figure out how to regenerate the menu it will come back |
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05:09.29 | crazy_pete | ok i got this |
05:10.05 | crazy_pete | if you wanna add a kde app to the panel, you select "add application" and it copies the desktop file to your ~/.kde and edits it there |
05:10.33 | biohazrd | crazy_pete, you using kde 4.3.1 ? |
05:10.35 | crazy_pete | if you wanna add a completely raw application to the panel you select "Add Non-KDE Application" |
05:10.38 | crazy_pete | nope kde 3.54 |
05:10.40 | crazy_pete | er |
05:10.41 | crazy_pete | 3.5.4 |
05:10.52 | biohazrd | there is the problem |
05:10.54 | biohazrd | heh. |
05:10.58 | crazy_pete | there ya go :) |
05:11.01 | biohazrd | they are way different in that respect |
05:11.07 | biohazrd | i used to used kde 3.5 |
05:11.17 | biohazrd | so I figured something should be the same with it. |
05:11.27 | biohazrd | but they have made it difficult :) |
05:11.42 | crazy_pete | i gotta admit i am in love with kde |
05:12.08 | crazy_pete | yeah biohazrd well thanks for yer interaction i learnt something new about kde just now :) |
05:12.18 | biohazrd | lol |
05:12.20 | biohazrd | np |
05:12.36 | biohazrd | 4.3.1 looks nice |
05:12.46 | crazy_pete | yeah |
05:12.52 | biohazrd | almost too many settings |
05:12.56 | crazy_pete | i might reinstall fedora on a partition or three on this machine |
05:13.03 | crazy_pete | and see what kde 4.x is all about |
05:13.10 | crazy_pete | got centos on it now |
05:13.19 | biohazrd | it compiled fine on my gentoo box |
05:13.24 | crazy_pete | which is kde 3.5.4 |
05:13.45 | PhrkOnLsh | crazy_pete: the kde-redhat repo has kde for rhel and clones |
05:13.48 | crazy_pete | gonna reformat this box in a week or two though so not gonna do anything drastic now |
05:13.48 | PhrkOnLsh | kde-redhat.sf.net |
05:14.09 | crazy_pete | really PhrkOnLsh and it has kde 4? Awesome buddy thanks a lot! |
05:14.25 | PhrkOnLsh | just enable the unstable and testing repos. |
05:14.49 | biohazrd | PhrkOnLsh, you ever figure out how to regenerate the menu? |
05:20.03 | biohazrd | kmenuedit |
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05:20.15 | biohazrd | at least I could manually add it back in. |
05:20.35 | biohazrd | you would think there would be something that rebuilt it based on /usr/share/application entries. |
05:21.24 | biohazrd | so i guess i have to use kmenuedit to make the application then drag it to the panel. |
05:23.24 | biohazrd | crazy_pete, wasn't there some trick on making gtk+ apps look better? |
05:23.34 | crazy_pete | dunno i hate gnome :) |
05:23.38 | biohazrd | I recall some option to retheme them |
05:24.07 | crazy_pete | (and no that is not an invitation to any lurkers to start a flame war about whether gtk is part of gnome or whether gnome sits ontop of gtk :) ) |
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06:45.42 | PhrkOnLsh | Ese: we already told you in #fedora-kde |
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08:38.11 | brain0 | morning |
08:39.28 | brain0 | when a data source which I was connected to disappears, from a Plasma::DataEngine disappears, is it also automatically disconnected? |
08:39.47 | brain0 | and: if I call disconnect on a source which I wasn't connected to, can anything bad happen? |
08:40.00 | brain0 | and: what happens if I connect to a data source which doesn't exist? |
08:40.44 | pinotree | brain0: â #plasma |
08:42.01 | brain0 | wow, you guys have a separate plasma channel |
08:42.19 | brain0 | you learn something new every day |
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09:12.40 | lxsameer | hi , i'm playing some music with some player and when i recive a message in pidgin or kopete that play a sound my music sound gone away way? |
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09:47.08 | gkiagia | lxsameer: your player is locking the sound card. which player is it? |
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09:59.51 | denis| | hello. I set proxy settings in kde settings, but the only browser that uses them is konqueror. Firefox & chromium don't see them :(( |
09:59.57 | denis| | why is it so? |
10:02.16 | andip | denis|: because konqueror is a part of kde, while firefox and chromium isn't i suppose. no reason why firefox or chromium should check kde-settings |
10:03.30 | denis| | and what about this http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363 |
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10:03.54 | denis| | they say that chromium does respect kde proxy settings now |
10:04.22 | denis| | & also when i press the "change proxy settings" button in chromium options i get kde config window for proxy |
10:04.34 | gkiagia | denis|: kde proxy settings are mostly for apps using kio |
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10:05.06 | gkiagia | denis|: if chromium does read them, then it's probably a chromium bug that it does't respect them |
10:05.16 | denis| | but please, could you read the link above |
10:05.26 | gkiagia | but firefox is not supposed to read them at all |
10:05.32 | denis| | they say that was fixed a while ago for chromium |
10:05.34 | gkiagia | ok |
10:05.51 | denis| | so, i wonder why it still refuses to work on my system |
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10:07.06 | gkiagia | maybe you are hitting another bug? |
10:07.47 | denis| | the same bug for me :) |
10:09.11 | pinotree | what about asking in some chrome channel? |
10:10.00 | denis| | ok, ill give it a shot |
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10:15.06 | denis| | ok, i figured a workaround out |
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10:15.40 | denis| | just export http_proxy="server:port" before launching chromium |
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10:16.44 | denis| | but the page http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxProxyConfig says that's not an intented behavior |
10:17.11 | Torch | denis|: this is not a chrome support channel. |
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10:25.21 | elmargol | do i have to restart solid in order to get new solid actions? |
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10:26.25 | elmargol | I added a file /usr/share/apps/solid/actions/foobar.desktop |
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10:30.15 | c0nstantin | does anybody know about the "ataX: SRST failed (errno=-16)" ? context fresh install |
10:30.51 | cb400f | elmargol: dunno if there's another way than restarting kde.. the solid action won't just appear automatically in the same session |
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10:43.17 | szal | where do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1? I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings |
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11:22.08 | rogersman | hey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx |
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11:25.01 | student | stop |
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11:28.19 | ship | hello i would like know how i could set height of kdialog stuff with qdbus |
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11:28.36 | ship | i have tried with good success for some sfuff |
11:28.47 | ship | but i can't get it for menu |
11:29.23 | ship | qdbus org.kde.kdialog-4556 /MainApplication |
11:29.35 | ship | but then i can't find out the correct syntax |
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11:34.47 | Abhinav1 | I am trying to install KDE on fedora 11 using yum and getting this error, :( http://fedora.pastebin.com/m73dafc64 what to do? |
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11:36.14 | James147 | Abhinav1: try asking in your distros channel |
11:36.43 | Abhinav1 | ok thanks |
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11:37.59 | darkdawn_ | and also try to look at diferences you got there on gstreamer ... |
11:38.10 | darkdawn_ | you got 2 diff version |
11:39.44 | darkdawn_ | also try to update your repo from rpmfusion free and nonfree |
11:39.52 | darkdawn_ | hope this helps |
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11:43.13 | kollaps | Hi, is there any way to make konsole show what the command you run wants to display on the title ? |
11:43.24 | kollaps | instead of just the name of the command you're running ? |
11:44.53 | JackWinter | anyone know how i set the default "save as" directory in konqueror? |
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11:46.12 | mzanetti | kollaps: afaik you can do this by settings the Tab text to %w. Not sure if that is really what you want.... |
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11:48.15 | phrearch | hi |
11:48.33 | phrearch | i wonder if its possible to show only the taskbar items that are available in a certain desktop with kde 4.3 |
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11:50.39 | draugdel | phrearch: right click on the taskbar, settings, only show windows from current screen (or so) |
11:50.43 | James147 | phrearch: you can set it to only show from the current desktop by rightclicking a blank space of teh task bar and settings |
11:52.10 | jad4 | wishes there was something as good as chrome for linux :S |
11:53.22 | break19 | there is. I'm using chrome for linux right now.. |
11:53.32 | phrearch | scratches his head |
11:53.41 | darkdawn_ | JackWinter: you use kget to download? |
11:53.48 | phrearch | cant really find any taskbar options. i always end up on the panel settings |
11:54.31 | draugdel | phrearch: unlock the widgets, open the panel settings via clicking the cashew, and then right click on the taskbar |
11:54.32 | James147 | phrearch: need to right click a blank part of the task manager widget |
11:54.36 | mzanetti | phrearch: open the panel settings and right-click on the taskbar again |
11:54.38 | cb400f | phrearch: most likely cuz you don't have empty space in your taskbar when you get the itch to change the settings :-) |
11:54.51 | draugdel | first! :) |
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11:55.41 | phrearch | yes!, got it. thanks |
11:56.21 | jad4 | break19, technically it's not chrome and it's not as good as... :S |
11:56.35 | JackWinter | darkdawn_: no, i've still not gotten used to it. i normally just do save as |
11:56.50 | break19 | jad4: from what I can tell, there's virtually no difference.. |
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11:57.07 | jad4 | break19, hmm I'll have to give it a try again then |
11:57.13 | phrearch | this really works well with some shortcuts for the desktops |
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11:58.54 | break19 | "Note: The Linux build still lacks certain privacy features, and is not appropriate for general consumer use." That appears to be all it's lacking, from what I can ascertain |
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12:02.58 | rogersman | hey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx |
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12:09.37 | Ese | Hi, how can I add weather providers to the weather widget? my location is not found... |
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12:20.24 | szal | where do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1? I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings |
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12:22.59 | miasma | will there be kde 4.3.2? the schedule page shows nothing |
12:23.21 | szal | miasma: the schedule page didn't show 4.3.1 either before its release ;) |
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12:24.11 | miasma | oh ok |
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12:28.10 | ship | anyone know how to change height of kdialog menu? |
12:28.15 | ship | via qdbus? |
12:28.25 | ship | i can't find out :( |
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12:36.27 | MarcoPau | hello, wanted to enable the feature that allows to drag windows thru desktops. I don't seem to find it among the compositing effects |
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12:37.42 | MarcoPau | using kubuntu jaunty with kde 4.3.1 |
12:37.58 | James147 | MarcoPau: System settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges --- Set "Switch desktop on edge" to "Only when moving windows" |
12:39.00 | MarcoPau | James147: thank you! :) |
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12:39.44 | MarcoPau | one more question, I accidentally removed the menu bar on top of konsole and can't display it again |
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12:40.16 | James147 | MarcoPau: Right click in the window :) |
12:40.40 | MarcoPau | LOL |
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12:41.19 | MarcoPau | thanks again, ciao |
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12:49.41 | Nece228 | hey |
12:49.47 | Nece228 | type in konqueror address: |
12:49.50 | Nece228 | www.ubuntu.lt |
12:50.00 | Nece228 | will konqueror crash to you? |
12:50.03 | Nece228 | for me it does |
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12:52.05 | cb400f | 4.3.1 konq doesn't crash here |
12:52.20 | Nece228 | hmm |
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12:52.35 | Nece228 | then wheres konqueror configuration file |
12:52.43 | Nece228 | i think its settings foult again |
12:52.51 | Nece228 | tough i have no clue why it happens to me |
12:52.57 | Nece228 | *though |
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12:57.10 | James147 | Nece228: Konquerors settings are in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror and ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc |
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12:59.19 | Nece228 | James147: thanks but deleting cofiguration doesnt help |
12:59.28 | Nece228 | Executable: konqueror PID: 2296 Signal: 6 (Aborted) |
12:59.44 | Nece228 | thats all of the details |
13:00.20 | andip | i'm trying to get amarok's cover-thing working, but i don't really know where to start looking for errors. the cover manager tells me i've only got 2 missing covers, but in fact i'm missing about 150 covers. the search for album-covers _never_ return anything, no matter what i search for. |
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13:02.45 | Nece228 | with web browser plasmoid everythings fine |
13:02.51 | darkdawn_ | andip:/home/user/.kde/share/apps/amarok |
13:02.58 | Nece228 | looks like its not konqueror's engine problem |
13:05.08 | andip | sorry, forgot to mention this is kde 4.3.1 and amarok 2.1.1 |
13:06.09 | darkdawn_ | .kde4 then |
13:07.40 | darkdawn_ | to see the hidden file you have to enable from View-show hidden files |
13:07.49 | andip | darkdawn_: i see some cryptinc names for albumcovers in that dir, but i can't really say why the reporting is faulty |
13:08.05 | andip | cryptic* |
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13:08.53 | darkdawn_ | andip;i don't know try to install from scrypt manager again |
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13:10.38 | andip | darkdawn_: aha! i never installed anything with script-manager. |
13:10.51 | andip | darkdawn_: will see if i find a cover-script there then |
13:11.52 | darkdawn_ | you'll find |
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13:14.30 | aiju | i've got a problem with kdm 4.3.1/4.3.0 and Gentoo |
13:14.33 | lxsameer | hi , i'm playing some music with some player and when i recive a message in pidgin or kopete that play a sound my music sound gone away way? |
13:14.39 | darkdawn_ | and disable the one that is faulted |
13:14.52 | aiju | kdm starts, but when I try to login, the screen turns black for a second and then it returns to the login screen |
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13:16.13 | andip | aiju: i got the same problem on one of my puters i believe. does it work if you login on a tty and the use "startx", but with little/no fs-functionality in konqueror? |
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13:16.42 | aiju | andip: didn't tried konqueror, but startx and dolphin work |
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13:20.04 | Nece228 | darkdawn_ i dont want to reconfigure everything again |
13:21.38 | aiju | andip: I believe (I'm quite sure actually) it's an X server problem |
13:21.39 | andip | aiju: probarbly same problem as me then. if you look at your /var/log/messages file you'll probably see some pam-errors when you try to log in via kdm. tried forums and "everything", but i've yet to find a solution |
13:22.04 | aiju | andip: no, I don't see any problems with pam |
13:22.26 | andip | aiju: ok.. not same problem as me then, but same symptoms.. strange |
13:23.13 | andip | darkdawn_: i can't find any cover-script installed actually. can't find one in the script-browser either. do you have a name for a script? |
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13:33.53 | Thms | Hello, I use Krename to rename some MP3 fils in my home directory, rename with ID3 informations; but I always get "Error renaming" |
13:33.57 | Thms | why ? |
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13:36.23 | rogersman | hey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx |
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13:45.59 | Sho_ | rogersman: if you enable desktop effects it'd be translucent I think |
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13:49.14 | rogersman | nah, fraid not |
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13:56.53 | Nece228 | people, please open ubuntu.lt/beta with konqueror, and press dokumentacija or forumas button |
13:56.59 | Nece228 | will konqueror crash to you? |
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13:58.08 | gera | it's my first time using irc... |
13:58.10 | gera | :S |
13:59.41 | Nece228 | come on people |
13:59.49 | Nece228 | i need to know this |
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14:00.40 | jthomas_sb | Nece228 checking for you now |
14:01.16 | Nece228 | thanks |
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14:01.35 | refic | Nece228: no crashing here |
14:01.44 | Nece228 | strange |
14:01.53 | Nece228 | what konqueror version you are using? |
14:01.59 | jthomas_sb | Nece228 with Debian Sid and KDE 4.3.1, clicking on 'dokumentacija' does not crash Konqueror |
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14:02.22 | refic | Nece228: 4.3.1 |
14:02.32 | Nece228 | it crashes to me, well, sorry for disturbing |
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14:03.53 | Nece228 | this started to happen when i used web browser plasmoid |
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14:05.02 | jthomas_sb | Nece228 maybe you should wipe out the konquerorrc file at ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and see if that helps at all. |
14:05.03 | aiju | my kdm problem seems to be xauth related... |
14:05.31 | Nece228 | dont helps, i even renamed .kdemod4 folder |
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14:20.42 | Niek | What's wrong with bugs.kde.org? |
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14:23.35 | cmot | Yodel! I'm about to plan an update of our (Debian Etch / KDE3.5 based) corporate desktop. I'm thinking about switch to KDE4, of course, BUT I'd need some forced customizations (kiosk-like) or at least a sensible way to prepare a default profile. Any HOWTOs about this? |
14:24.03 | aiju | wow got it working |
14:24.14 | pusling | kiosk still workses. just missing clickiyclkicy |
14:24.31 | aiju | andip: you should look if $DISPLAY is set correctly |
14:24.45 | aiju | that was my problem |
14:24.59 | aiju | $DISPLAY was set to localhost:0.0, but kdm assumed it to be being :0 |
14:25.04 | aiju | which caused some xauth trouble |
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14:25.51 | cmot | pusling, ok. So the big task would be to sift through all the configuration to determine how much / what exactly to lock down. I guess the configuration has changed a bit for the fundamental desktop look and feel ... |
14:26.27 | pusling | cmot: yeah. the core of it is kstandarddirs which haven't changed. |
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14:27.01 | Zxcvb | how well will kde 4.3.1 work on a 1024x600 screen compared to 4.2.4? |
14:27.30 | pusling | Zxcvb: around the same. |
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14:27.48 | cmot | pusling, sorry, don't know enough KDE to parse that. kstandardddirs is what? |
14:27.50 | n3llyb0y | can anyone point me to good resource about developing plasma widgets with Java? |
14:28.09 | Zxcvb | pulsing: do you know if kppp is usable now in 4.3.x? |
14:28.54 | pusling | cmot: the thing that let kde read a sequence of directories reading configurations |
14:29.06 | cmot | Ah, ok. |
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14:30.47 | cmot | pusling, so I'd still start with /etc/kderc. Or did you move that to /etc/kde4rc? /etc/kde4/kderc? |
14:30.59 | pusling | cmot: I'm not fully sure. |
14:31.21 | cmot | Never mind, I'll find out. |
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14:37.18 | sling-shot | PCLinuxOS2009.2/KDE4 I am getting File Not Exists error while copying a directory from FAT HDD partition to a portable FAT formatted HDD. Extra commas are being reported in the source file name while they actually do not exist. |
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14:41.49 | gera | hey guys, how can i compress files in .rar? i'm using fedora |
14:42.43 | gera | it says "compress > rar file" when i click on the file |
14:43.20 | gera | but then it says something like "rar" i not in PATH |
14:44.02 | Moult | gera: i'm not using fedora, but i would assume you need the `rar` application installed. check in /usr/bin do you have rar in there/ |
14:44.04 | Moult | *? |
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14:52.37 | Natenom | Hi, does anyone know where the notes widget on plasma stores its content? I tried a grep in ~ but couldn't find anything. |
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15:23.53 | Zelut | OK, I had this same problem the last time I installed KDE (4.3.x - arch), and I don't remember the solution. |
15:24.13 | Zelut | I want to sign/encrypt emails in Kmail but I instantly get "Bad passphrase", without being prompted for one. |
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15:29.15 | rdieter | Zelut: which pinentry are you using? (I'm currently having similar problems getting pinentry-qt4 to work) |
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15:30.24 | Zelut | I've configured gpg-agent.conf to use pinentry-qt4, which has worked in the past.. |
15:31.10 | rdieter | pinentry-qt and pinentry-gtk-2 work for me as well, -qt4 (from pinentry-0.7.6) fails like what you're seeing for me => bad passphrase, no pinentry dialog at all |
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15:32.45 | rdieter | I'm currently trying to debug what's going wrong, here's the thread, http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2009-September/025358.html |
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15:33.21 | Guest70750 | can anyone pls help me out with this problem i am having for 4 moth now? |
15:33.29 | Guest70750 | SRST failed errno = -16 |
15:33.31 | Guest70750 | ... |
15:33.42 | Zelut | rdieter: I'm fairly certain my configs and pinentry-qt4 should be valid because I track my configs in git and this is a new install with a recent checkout. |
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15:33.51 | Zelut | rdieter: my guess is its something funny with my agent somewhere |
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15:35.45 | rdieter | Zelut: if you figure it out, please let me know what it was. |
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15:37.36 | rogersman1 | hey all, anyone recommend a nice dock that plays well with kde4? |
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15:41.25 | Fri13 | rogersman1: you mean taskmanager? |
15:43.25 | Fri13 | if so, I suggest smooth task. |
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15:46.46 | rogersman1 | hmm, was looking for an osx like clone |
15:47.01 | rogersman1 | smoothdock was great...but... |
15:49.00 | rogersman1 | also, while im here :-) is it possible to assign meta+mouse wheel to zoom desktop effect? that would be sweet... |
15:49.26 | Guest70750 | SRST failed errno = -16 ... does anyone know anything about this error? |
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15:51.22 | Fri13 | rogersman1: there is taskpanel called Kustodian. You can find it from KDE4 SVN playground only. As far I know. |
15:52.30 | rogersman1 | cheers...ill have a look see |
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16:37.08 | c3l | sigh, how do I printscreen? |
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17:02.32 | kvikas | is kde.org really down or is it just my dns which is not resolving it? |
17:03.27 | kvikas | ok it is resolvable but not pingable. so i think it is down. scheduled maintainence? |
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17:36.41 | rindolf | Hi all. |
17:37.13 | gera | hi |
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17:37.27 | gera | hey guys, look at my desktop http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3784/instantnea13.png |
17:37.28 | gera | :) |
17:37.35 | rindolf | I'd like to start a slightly philosophical rant about KDE 4.x so please bear with me. First of all, I should note that I like KDE 4.3.x - it looks great, and mostly behaves like I want to. |
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17:39.13 | rindolf | However, it seems that it's still sluggish (= non-responsive) and has many quirks. Furthermore despite the fact that I have a P4-2.4GHz machine with 2.5GB of RAM and a fast card - ATI Radeon HD 2600 with the radeonhd driver , it's still kinda slow. |
17:40.03 | gera | I have a amd x2 4000 with 1gb RAM and I think it's fast |
17:40.14 | gera | oh and nvidia 7300gt |
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17:40.27 | rindolf | (These things can run circles around my original PC XT with 640 KB of RAM and a whopping colour CGA adapter and screen, which was already a fast computer consider the past). |
17:40.31 | rindolf | gera: it's not too slow. |
17:40.38 | rindolf | But KDE 3.5.10 was faster. |
17:40.45 | rindolf | And IceWM is much faster. |
17:40.53 | rindolf | And so is E17 when it works properly. |
17:41.28 | rindolf | gera: I think my SPECS are somewhat worse than yours. |
17:41.59 | rindolf | gera: in any case, I don't think it has to be this way - I think it can be improved by optimising the code. |
17:42.02 | w00t | rindolf: are there any actions in particular which are sluggish? |
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17:42.06 | rindolf | w00t: yes. |
17:42.10 | w00t | rindolf: shoot =) |
17:42.31 | rindolf | w00t: for example, when switching to a different virtual desktop, the task bar is updated noticebly slow. |
17:42.51 | rindolf | w00t: and it takes a lot of time with the Windows to appear. |
17:43.23 | rindolf | Part of it may be because the X.Org stuff is in flux, which can make many things worse. |
17:43.26 | w00t | okay, are you able to open a terminal, run 'top' (or htop, or something similar) and see whether anything is chewing CPU? |
17:43.29 | kvikas | rindolf: it seems a problem with your settings and not KDE. |
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17:43.50 | rindolf | w00t: it happens at boot. |
17:43.56 | rindolf | kvikas: IceWM is fine in this regard. |
17:44.03 | rindolf | kvikas: and so is GNOME probably. |
17:44.23 | w00t | rindolf: so, not after everything is started up? |
17:44.33 | kvikas | rindolf: do you have desktop effects switched on in kde? |
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17:44.39 | rindolf | kvikas: no, none. |
17:45.05 | rindolf | w00t: I mean , it happens immediately after I start KDE |
17:46.16 | w00t | I understand, but, what I'm trying to ask you to look for is what on your system is causing the problem- whether it's some part of KDE itself, or something else (like X) |
17:46.19 | kvikas | rindolf: i also find my fluxbox faster than kde. but we should probably not compare the two. One is just a wm other is full blown DE. But still i do not find kde as as slow as you are describing. |
17:46.51 | kvikas | so as w00t suggested, fire top and see what is hogging CPU and RAM |
17:47.12 | rindolf | kvikas: Firefox seems to have grown out of control. |
17:47.15 | rindolf | Let me kill it. |
17:47.22 | rindolf | 9 to 1 it won't remedy the situation. |
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17:47.58 | kvikas | ah, running firefox in kde is like running 2 DEs. do you any other gtk apps running? |
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17:48.35 | cumulus007 | Why is kde.org so slow and doesn't load stylesheets? |
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17:48.51 | kvikas | cumulus007: i think it is down. |
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17:50.24 | rindolf | kvikas: don't think that i do. |
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17:50.41 | rindolf | kvikas: OK, with firefox, it still takes a lot of time to switch between virtual desktops. |
17:50.49 | rindolf | kvikas: oh wait, I have XChat running. |
17:50.51 | rindolf | And gvim. |
17:50.56 | rindolf | But it shouldn't matter. |
17:51.02 | rindolf | gtk+ doesn't occupy so much RAM. |
17:51.11 | rindolf | Nothing my 2.5GB of RAM + 1 GB of swap cannot handle. |
17:51.42 | kvikas | rindolf: agreed. so what else is the most cpu hogging app? |
17:52.18 | rindolf | kvikas: X and plasma-desktop. |
17:52.36 | w00t | X is using how much, roughly, as a percentage? |
17:52.42 | rindolf | No , gam_server. |
17:52.50 | rindolf | And now plasma-desktop. |
17:52.58 | rindolf | Not a lot of CPU but above 5% of RAM. |
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17:55.21 | strikeu | Hi is there any schedules for kde 4.3.2 ? |
17:55.35 | kvikas | given your system config, ram shouldn't be a problem for you. check cpu usage |
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17:57.07 | beer__ | strikeu: normal a realse like that would be one month after the prior one so I think it will come within next week. But I dont knwo, just a guess |
17:58.00 | beer__ | is kde.org down? |
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17:58.27 | strikeu | hmm looks like |
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17:58.51 | szal | where do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1? I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings |
18:00.42 | strikeu | I have problem with resizing plasma panels, is some way to fix it ? |
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18:22.36 | milian | where is the default-folder for the file-open dialog stored? it keeps openeing ~/documents instead of ~/ ... |
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18:41.01 | Cool_C | hello peoples, anyone know if it's possible to get rid of the white/gray flash that accompany panel autohiding in kde 4.2? |
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19:03.43 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey, can anyone give me a tip on malfunctioning kwin? Often times when I plug my laptop in, kwin goes black. I can't see anything except the mouse, until I restart kwin. I *can* do alt-F2 and type `kwin --replace` and that fixes it until next time, but still, it's a massive pain. |
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19:09.45 | rdieter | szal: when/if a flash object appears on a webpage, you can right click it, but there's no flash-specific configuration within konqueror (or any browser for that matter) |
19:10.22 | szal | rdieter: that would be the Flashplayer-own dialog, which is not what I want |
19:10.37 | rdieter | szal: ok, what *do* you want then? :) |
19:11.06 | rdieter | you mean, configuring how/where konq finds and uses plugins? |
19:11.10 | szal | rdieter: in KDE3 there was an item in 'Configure Konqueror' to choose paths to plugins, e.g. libflashplayer.so; this is supposed to be there too in KDE4, but I don't seem to have it.. |
19:11.17 | rdieter | it's there too |
19:11.39 | szal | well, where is it then? |
19:12.31 | rdieter | same place as before, configure konqueror -> web browsing -> plugins |
19:13.07 | szal | believe it or not, I don't have that item |
19:14.31 | rdieter | szal: odd, maybe you're missing something then, depending on how you installed or your distro |
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19:15.29 | muguruma-kensei | Hi. How to just list files inside k3b project file ? |
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19:15.49 | szal | rdieter: openSUSE 11.1, packaged |
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19:16.05 | rdieter | szal: ask them, they may have the plugin support packaged separately |
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19:16.49 | szal | http://www.abload.de/img/20090921_konq_configuru5io.png <<-- see here |
19:17.15 | rdieter | szal: I believe you! :) #opensuse-kde is likely the best place for you |
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19:26.41 | rogersman1 | evening all, does anyone know if it is possible to assign scroll wheel (+ mod) to zoom desktop effect? google isn't talking! |
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19:30.10 | FiNeX | hi |
19:30.31 | rogersman1 | and apparently neither is anyone here...:-p |
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19:33.23 | szal | junkDawgie: I do have that installed |
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19:34.49 | dziadu | hi guys, any ideas with this bug: http://wklej.org/id/153425/ |
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19:37.13 | m_tadeu | hi everyone |
19:37.33 | m_tadeu | is this the right place to ask about plasmoids? |
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19:59.29 | lindenle | Hi All, just upgraded to 4.3 and now window switching and redraw is painfully slow. Any ideas? |
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20:02.22 | liucougar | kde.org is down |
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20:03.52 | beer__ | looks like it |
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20:28.03 | PhrkOnLsh | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue194#KDE |
20:28.08 | PhrkOnLsh | about about 30MiB smaller :( |
20:28.34 | PhrkOnLsh | 's grammar dies a little on the inside. |
20:29.06 | PhrkOnLsh | dah, totally wrong channel. |
20:29.17 | PhrkOnLsh | 's irssi skills die a little on the inside. |
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20:49.30 | jzmer | is there any way to disable advanced font features for konsole? |
20:49.59 | jzmer | (im using an opentype monospace fonts with lots of font features) |
20:50.02 | oneforall | hey why is it if I leave kde and then restart it and it loads konsole . It loads it with bash-3.1$ . It only does that when i leave kde and never closed konsole |
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20:53.09 | s410i | why kde.org doesn't work? |
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20:55.51 | oneforall | hmm not working for me either |
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20:56.59 | jzmer | doesnt work for me as well. |
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20:58.25 | s410i | anyone know who to contact to check this? |
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21:00.40 | gunni | I cant set my clock to update with ntp server. When ever i change the settings, accept, click overview and go back, the setting is back to manual time. What do i do wrong? KDE 4.3.1 |
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21:37.03 | vcef | hi |
21:37.15 | vcef | I have a little problem with keyboard layout switcher |
21:37.24 | vcef | it doesn't show the flags in the systray |
21:37.45 | vcef | (actually it show only flag of one particular layout as far as I can tell) |
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21:38.08 | vcef | the flags appear in the configuration dialog |
21:38.30 | vcef | (openSUSE 11.1 KDE 4.3.1) |
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21:47.00 | Alumin | is there a way to "reset" the mouse pointer? |
21:47.19 | Alumin | every once in a while my mouse cursor image gets all messed up and the only way to fix it is to restart X |
21:47.55 | Frogbarf | What's with all the fake anti-virus website recently? |
21:48.11 | Alumin | Frogbarf: they figured out how well it works :) |
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21:48.36 | Frogbarf | Yeah but looks wierd when you have kde |
21:49.28 | Frogbarf | very annoying |
21:49.44 | hallowname | Frogbarf: adblock? |
21:50.02 | Frogbarf | If you do a google search for: autumnal equinox 2009 "3xact time" |
21:50.13 | Frogbarf | the fist 7 or 8 results are infected |
21:50.26 | Frogbarf | oosp "exact time" |
21:50.33 | Frogbarf | very strange |
21:51.27 | IG | Is there any way of finding Open Windows list, and the window id with focus using dcop? |
21:51.43 | Alumin | IG: KDE 4.x? |
21:52.00 | IG | Alumin: KDE 3.5 |
21:52.07 | IG | But KDE 4.x will do too |
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21:52.35 | Alumin | well, the reason I ask is that with KDE 4 you're probably looking at using D-Bus for that kind of thing rather than DCOP |
21:52.51 | IG | Right. |
21:53.01 | IG | But is there a way using dbus? |
21:53.15 | Alumin | IG: I don't know the specific answer to your question, but in a KDE 3.x environment I'd recommend installing kdcop and go surfing through kwin's section |
21:53.28 | Alumin | for KDE 4.x, same thing, but the app to use is qtdbus |
21:53.45 | Alumin | er qdbus rather |
21:53.57 | mgraesslin | IG: have a look at WMIface |
21:53.59 | IG | Alumin: Yep, I did that. Couldn't find anything. Expected it to be part of kdesktop or kwin, but there is no such API |
21:54.05 | mgraesslin | you can find it on kde-apps |
21:54.07 | Alumin | oh |
21:54.20 | Alumin | in that case, I got nothin', sorry :P |
21:54.31 | IG | mgraesslin: Thanks. Will take a look |
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23:01.06 | milian | how is konsole split-views supposed to work? I mean for me the second view just does the same the first one does... |
23:01.09 | milian | not really practical?! |
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23:01.49 | milian | or is it really required to open a second tab? |
23:01.52 | milian | strange |
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23:05.31 | bbeck | I was wondering if anyone knew why when I hover over a button and a tool tip appears my fps drops by about 40 frames? |
23:07.35 | PhrkOnLsh | milian: you can point the second view at a different tab. |
23:07.51 | milian | PhrkOnLsh: pretty lame imo |
23:07.58 | milian | each view should have its own set of tabs |
23:08.01 | milian | but well... |
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23:13.40 | oneforall | konsole I just like opening another tab |
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23:14.56 | PhrkOnLsh | milian: I don't use it, so my opinion is null and void ;) |
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23:16.30 | johnny69 | Trying to find, "Kpf" (public file server) Can't find it anywhere in my distro, yast and smart aren't showing it either. Is it possible to grab this seperately anywhere? (suse 11.0/kde 3.x) Thank you. |
23:18.06 | PhrkOnLsh | johnny69: kde-apps.org, though I'm surprised SuSE doesn't have it. |
23:18.42 | johnny69 | PhrkOnLsh: It showed up in one install of Suse, didn't show up in the very next install. Same version!! Just weird. |
23:18.55 | johnny69 | PhrkOnLsh: Oh, and thank you., |
23:19.23 | PhrkOnLsh | johnny69: perhaps it was in a repo you didn't have enabled in the new install? |
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23:19.58 | PhrkOnLsh | johnny69: try asking in #suse, they'd probably know |
23:20.06 | johnny69 | PhrkOnLsh: I was suspecting that. But this is my main machine and I've repo'd this bad puppy to death! I've got repo's coming out the ying-yang. :) |
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23:21.44 | PhrkOnLsh | johnny69: idk then :( #suse would know, though |
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23:22.14 | bpun | I use gnome-settings-daemon when i login to kde (use of autostart folder), are there any other gnome-like helpers i should know about? my icedove (thunderbird) email client lags when i scroll the message lists.. |
23:23.53 | pinotree | bpun: #gnome |
23:24.19 | bpun | pinotree, go to #gnome. i've asked there as well.. you're very thoughtful |
23:25.00 | pinotree | bpun: given that none of gnome-settings-daemon nor thunderbird is kde, asking here is pointless |
23:25.28 | pinotree | no need to spam questions in unrelated channels |
23:25.42 | bpun | pinotree, go fuck yourself |
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23:25.56 | pinotree | LOL! |
23:26.34 | PhrkOnLsh | yeah, pinotree ! xD |
23:26.37 | PhrkOnLsh | he told you! |
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23:30.21 | bbeck | I just asked this, but maybe I posed the question wrong. Could someone turn on the kwin fps module, and confirm (or deny) that the fps drops considerably when hovering over something that creates a tooltip? |
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23:37.26 | bbeck | Well it seems to happen in pure QT apps, so maybe the question goes there. |
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23:51.47 | Edgan | How do I automatically run screen in konsole 2.3 of KDE 4.3.1? I tried changing the "command" option in the profile, but it then closes the window right after konsole opens. |
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23:52.44 | mang0 | Heya fellas. I just installed KDE 4.3.1 and for some reason everytime I hit the bottom pannel, or start up some applications it just restarts X...anybody have an idea why? |
23:53.54 | mang0 | Anybody got a clue? |
23:53.55 | mang0 | :3 |
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23:55.18 | Edgan | nm |
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23:58.59 | mang0 | Hmm? |