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00:28.19jalbneyhello
00:28.28JabberWokkyHello.
00:28.32jalbneyi have a question about kubuntu 8.04 hardy heron with kde 3.5.10
00:28.43LnxSlck__ask away
00:29.41jalbneyso i just did a fresh install from a live cd. i really dont need all the packages that came with it.  since i have no blank cds or usb flash drives, is there a way to get just the basic kdecore?
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00:29.47jalbneyi dont want to update my 8.04 or my kde 3
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00:31.43rstizzahello, anybody know how to remove a service from the script of kdeinit, on kde 4.3 ?
00:31.51jalbneycan i uninstall everything but what i want, or is there a way to run my live cd and just install a minimal version??
00:32.22JabberWokkyrstizza: Services are in your control panel.
00:32.49JabberWokkyjalbney: #kubuntu would be a better channel to ask the question, as it has more to do with the distro and packages than the actual KDE desktop.
00:33.55JabberWokkyrstizza: Advanced tab, Service Manager.
00:34.17JabberWokkyrstizza: If you're talking about an app that is autostarting, Advanced tab, Autostart.
00:34.36jalbneyi did not get any replies there
00:34.44jalbneyand i'm desperate!!!
00:34.59rstizzayes, but, for example I want to remove gnome networkmanager from the start, and it doesn t apear
00:35.15JabberWokkyjalbney: Sunday evening is a bad time for IRC help.  Sorry... it's all volunteers here, and anybody who can answer will.
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00:35.28jalbneyi understand lol
00:35.32JabberWokkyrstizza: Checked in autostart?
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00:36.09rstizzain autostart doesn t apear too :(
00:36.49JabberWokkyHunh.  Okay, I can tell you a couple places in the filesystem to check, if you are comfortable doing that.
00:37.49rstizzaokey
00:38.23JabberWokky*IF* you are comfortable looking, you can start looking in $HOME/.config/autostart/ , and then /usr/share/autostart/
00:39.13rstizza$HOME/.config/autostart/ is empty
00:40.46rstizzaand in /usr/share/autostart/ does not apear gnome network manager
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00:43.13JabberWokkyDo you know the desktop file for it (I know nothing about gnome)
00:43.15JabberWokky?
00:44.05rstizzaas I know the name is nm-applet
00:44.26rstizzasorry for my bad english, I m from Argentina
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00:45.17JabberWokkyTry searching for it.  A "locate nm-applet.desktop" may work if you have updatedb installed and the filename matches. (And don't worry about the English; we're communicating fine)
00:46.03rdieterone place to look is /etc/xdg/autostart
00:46.10JabberWokkyOtherwise, just do a search on your harddrive for all files with nm-applet in the name, looking for a desktop file located in a startup directory.  Yes, it's vague, but without knowing gnome, it would be the next place I'd go.
00:46.20JabberWokkyCheck that... try rdieter's suggestion.
00:46.44JabberWokkyAs /etc/xdg/autostart is the system level version of the first place I gave you.
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00:54.51leandroalI use gentoo with gnome, but I run some kde applications such as kile. In Kile, instead of it outputs ç, it outputs ć. How to fix this?
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00:57.38rstizzaokey I m going to try, thanks a lot
00:58.38rstizzayeaah, it s in  /etc/xdg/autostart
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00:58.51rstizzathank you a lot :)
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01:03.15solifugusSo what's happening in the future of KDE, what's the focus on future improvements right now?
01:04.15JabberWokkysolifugus: Psychic projection and mind control in Solid.  World domination plasmoid.  You know, same old, same old.
01:04.39break19sounds good to me, when can we test it out>?
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01:21.19rstizzajajaja
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01:22.38solifugusI installed ubuntu with gnome last friday on my main desktop at home...  I've been using kde since version 1.0 and loved every successive release until kde 4.  I sincerely want to see a resurrection of its former user-friendliness but need to get work done.. I found gnome to just-work for me... and kde 4 is still not so well.
01:22.52solifugusSo I'd just like to have some idea what the future is for kde..
01:22.55JabberWokkyOkay.
01:24.52solifugusright now, i am mostly annoyed by getting my wireless working.. firefox comes up and shows a bunch of cannot show offline content messages, then comes kwallet's dialog for entering my password so my wireless will connect, then while typing in the password, six more windows open and my keys enter randomly into various windows wreaking all kinds of havoc.
01:25.12JabberWokkySo, don't use KDE.
01:25.26solifugusJabberWokky: I'd like kde to be fixed.
01:25.31JabberWokkyOr rather, KDE4.
01:25.38JabberWokkyOkay, then fix it.
01:25.57solifugusYeah.. I tried using 3 but distros don't seem to be supporting it anymore..
01:26.26JabberWokkyUbuntu does.  There is a KDE3 Kubuntu release.
01:26.54solifugusJabberWokky: fixing kde means fixing people... i am not sure kde developers believe it has gone downhill in user friendliness and such.
01:27.24JabberWokkySo then, don't use it.
01:27.28JabberWokkyIt's a choice.
01:27.40JabberWokkySome people are making it, and you can use it or not.
01:27.41solifugusJabberWokky: sure... kubuntu does have kde 3, but that version of kubuntu doesn't support a variety of other apps I need..  and my volume control doesn't work in it..
01:28.11JabberWokkyI REALLY don't like Coca-cola or Pepsi.  Can you meake them fix it for me?
01:28.47solifugusJabberWokky: yes.. sure.. but is that really how it works?  no vision or concern for users and usability?
01:28.57solifugusjust.. if you don't like what we're doing, f u?
01:29.06JabberWokkyI mean, seriously.  What's the deal.  If you don't like the public garden that a group of your neighbors is making on their own proerty and letting everybody use, then just don't go there.
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01:29.12solifugusisn't open source just a little about listening to user concerns?
01:29.23solifugusmore than microsoft, for example?
01:29.32solifugusof just.. f u?
01:29.35JabberWokkyYes.  I like the direction it's going.
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01:29.43JabberWokkySo you're saying F U to my tastes?
01:30.02JabberWokkyYou're demanding they stop making things I like and throw them out to service your tastes?
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01:30.28solifugusnot at all, an old principle that came out strongly in kde v 2 was that of choice in everything... adaptability to style.. as gnome took a turn toward uniform style.
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01:31.02JabberWokkysolifugus: If you don't like it, fix it.  Don't demand that volunteers contributing time cater to your needs.
01:31.13JabberWokkyOtherwise, take it as a gift.
01:31.16solifugusJabberWokky: are you a developer of kde?
01:31.24JabberWokkyIf you don't like your gift, you don't have to take it.
01:31.40JabberWokkyNo, but I develop other open source software.
01:31.43solifugusand I have no right to care?
01:31.56solifugusjust f me?
01:32.16solifugusno listening to concerns.. no anything but a nasty attitude?
01:32.24JabberWokkyYou can care.  You can cajole... but making demands of volunteers... would you do that if you were face to face with somebody handing you a gift they made?
01:32.25solifugusand arrogance?
01:32.26JabberWokkyHonestly.
01:32.27JabberWokkyTell me.
01:32.35solifugus<PROTECTED>
01:32.41solifugusI asked for a listening ear.
01:32.53solifugusactually, I first just asked for what the future direction is..
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01:33.03JabberWokkywould you look at a fellow human being who spent years of his life working on a project out of passion and vision and then went to share it with the world...
01:33.21JabberWokkyyou would seriously demand that it be changed and say "I don't use it anyway"
01:34.00solifugusI didn't.............................
01:34.13JabberWokkyDo you go to picnics and say "Holy crap, this salad sucks!  It used to be much much better... switch back to the old recipie or fix it for me!"
01:35.08solifugusI write software also, and I find the most helpful thing I can get from users in their feedback..........  It's a two way process... and it's not demands, usually..
01:35.20JabberWokkysolifugus: Look... your query for help is valid.  Your demands that it be vaguely "fixed" are not.
01:35.21solifugusone-way software is software for no one, ultimately.
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01:36.00JabberWokkyThere's an entire system in place to register feature requests and handle bugs, both of which can be voted on by the community to increase prominance to developers.
01:36.03solifugusJabberWokky: only I didn't make a demand............. you read it that way.     "I'd like to see it fixed"  is not the same as "fix this, you idiot"
01:36.36solifugussure.. but my main question was........ what is the primary focus.. the current direction of what is being worked on.
01:37.19JabberWokkyWhatever the volunteers are working on, with a little back end support from overlapping needs from some companies sponsoring work on things.
01:38.06solifugusok fine
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01:45.49Tomasuthis is strange, in kmail (1.12.1) the folder list is showing unread messages, while I can't see any in the message list at all.
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01:46.30JabberWokkyDumb thought -- did you set the font and color to be the same for both read and unread messages?  I saw somebody do that once.
01:46.45leandroalin gnome ç works correct, but it kde it appears like this: ć. How can I fix this?
01:46.49rellinis it just me or are apple widgets broken in kde 4.3.1
01:46.54Tomasunope. It actually has (N) beside the name too
01:46.56leandroalin gnome ç works correct, but in kde it appears like this: ć. How can I fix this?
01:47.05Tomasuwhere N is the number of unread messages it thinks there are
01:47.12Tomasuand it slowly increases
01:48.08TomasuI've actually found the unread message, it was burried in a thread that was marked "important", but somehow not showing up when I asked it to filter to show unread messages
01:48.28dotCOMmieI'm running kde4 (debian testing) and having some issues with bluetooth the icon is gray and shows "no bluetooth adapter". rfcomm shows the device. Is there a good way to troubleshoot whats going on?
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01:55.27Alumin_Tomasu: do you have a filter active maybe?
01:55.51Alumin_oh n/m didn't read far enough heh
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01:56.14Tomasuthe only one active at the time is the "unread messages" filter. it should be showing the message, but it seems to miss it
01:57.06Tomasumy guess is it has something to do with that its in a thread marked "important". they also don't open up like other threads with new messages when the folder is opened
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01:59.52break19I just wish I could set the "root directory" in kmail's imap/disconnected imap accounts...
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02:01.59bpundotCOMmie, there's probbly bluetooth kde service, i know there are console commands though
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02:05.14dotCOMmiekde console commands?
02:05.33Tomasubreak19: know what else would be nice? being able to sort by arival date, not the date the email has in it (which is often wrong...)
02:05.57break19amen
02:09.17Tomasunight
02:10.02Alumin_break19: isn't that what "Accounts -> Advanced -> Namespaces" is for?
02:10.16Alumin_maybe it's not, I don't know that much about IMAP :P
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02:27.36leandroalin gnome ç works correct, but in kde it appears like this: ć. How can I fix this?
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02:56.30oneforallerr other than the pionter I couldn't click on nothing . I used the alt+tab and in konsole I did the kwin --replace . Thats got the mouse workign again. But now all the darn setting like shading not the m$ style of expand >:( is gone etc .
02:57.12oneforallnow I try to enable the effects and none are working . Disable and reenable a few times and nothing
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03:00.28oneforallhmm Titlebar Actions > Titlebar d\ouble-click:Shade . its still on shade but its not working O.o
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03:20.23biohazrdI start firefox with kde 4.3.1 and I get a bouncing ff logo for a while.  why?
03:20.41JabberWokkybiohazrd: You have launch notification turned on.
03:20.56biohazrdis that in the settings menu?
03:20.56JabberWokkyYou can turn it off in System Settings, or you can turn it off just for Firefox in the menu editor.
03:21.03biohazrdsorry, i just switched from gnome.
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03:21.38JabberWokkyNo worries.  I'm actually heading out.  If nobody else helps you, the phrase to Google is KDE4 Launch notification.
03:21.43JabberWokkyGood luck!
03:21.50biohazrdlol
03:21.52biohazrdgood deal
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03:22.21biohazrdwow
03:22.27biohazrdfound the notification menu..
03:22.28biohazrdbut long
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03:38.12magicblaze0071where can i find free high quality icons for my application?
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03:40.23oneforalldarn am I going to have to resrt kde here to get this working :(
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03:53.51PhrkOnLshmagicblaze0071: the ones included in oxygen are Free.
03:54.07PhrkOnLshelsewise you may get nuno to help you out, if it's a kde app
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03:59.49magicblaze0071PhrkOnLsh: can u send me a link where i can find a thumbs up/down in oxygen?
04:00.27PhrkOnLshmagicblaze0071: ls /usr/share/icons/oxygen
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04:02.13magicblaze0071anywhere on the web i can see them?
04:03.08PhrkOnLshhttp://www.oxygen-icons.org/
04:03.22magicblaze0071PhrkOnLsh: I went there, but cant find a thumbsup/down.
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04:05.08PhrkOnLshoxygen has a couple thousand icons, i'd be surprised if there WASNT one.
04:05.28biohazrdkde4 looks nice
04:05.41utkumagicblaze0071: maybe you can try searching files at /usr/share/icons/oxygen
04:06.23biohazrdI added a panel within a panel and cant seem to get the second panel aligned right
04:08.04magicblaze0071no thum in that grep...no file named thum*  :(
04:09.22magicblaze0071how can i view svgz files?
04:09.46PhrkOnLshwith a program that can view svgz?
04:09.48PhrkOnLshducks
04:09.56PhrkOnLshmagicblaze0071: I take it you aren't running KDE right now then?
04:10.31magicblaze0071just opened them in konqueror
04:10.43PhrkOnLshyup
04:10.50magicblaze0071they dont show...
04:10.51PhrkOnLshthat's what I was going to say ^^
04:10.56magicblaze0071they all show as one icon
04:10.58PhrkOnLshthey should...
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04:14.08oneforalltry View>Preview
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04:15.55magicblaze0071tomorrow, just shutdown my linux box.
04:15.57magicblaze0071g'nite
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04:17.36PhrkOnLshI had a good idea for a service menu last night but i forgot it :(
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04:28.31biohazrdis there some trick i am missing at adding a custom application to a panel to launch?
04:28.45biohazrdits not really a widget
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04:51.16biohazrdcrap, i guess cant drag an application out of the application menu and rename it without it deleting the original from the menu
04:52.55biohazrdodd you can't right click on the panel and add a custom icon and path
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04:54.06PhrkOnLshbiohazrd: go into /usr/share/applications and steal the .desktop file out of there and edit it.
04:54.43biohazrdPhrkOnLsh, how do I get the other application back?
04:55.04PhrkOnLshuhhh i don't remember how to remake the menu's sorry :(
04:55.06crazy_peteand u can really add a custom icon and path although (imo) it should be more direct.  The only way i know to to it is to add an app from the menu to the panel, and then customise it as you please
04:55.41biohazrdcrazy_pete, i did that, but after I change the path and icon, it removed the original app in the menu
04:55.57crazy_peteno way
04:56.02biohazrdjup way
04:56.06crazy_petehas to check that out
04:56.19biohazrdi drug the blender icon to the panel
04:56.22biohazrdthen edited it.
04:56.28biohazrdnow blender is no longer in the menu
04:56.41biohazrdshouldnt do that
04:56.58biohazrdi reinstalled blender hoping it would come back
04:56.59crazy_petewow i am sorry biohazrd
04:56.59biohazrdno luck
04:57.20crazy_peteyou have to rename the desktop file and i SWEAR it let me do that from the panel menu once <grins sheepishly>
04:58.03biohazrdi havent tried the desktop menu
04:58.06biohazrder icon
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04:59.08biohazrdwell the blender.desktop is still in /usr/share/applications
04:59.19biohazrdjust need to figure out how to regenerate menus i guess
05:00.00crazy_petewow i dunno
05:00.03crazy_peteit just worked again
05:00.25biohazrdyou dragged an icon/app off the K menu onto a panel?
05:00.30biohazrdthen renamed it
05:00.32crazy_petenofpu, i copied it
05:00.34crazy_peteer
05:00.37crazy_petenofpu, i copied it
05:00.45crazy_peten0 i copied it
05:00.50crazy_petethat was weird
05:00.58biohazrdcopy?
05:01.09crazy_peteadd application to panel
05:01.13crazy_petefrom the panel menu
05:01.21crazy_petebut it seems to save it in the same desktop file
05:01.49biohazrdthats what i am sturggling with i guess
05:02.02biohazrdi dont; see a way to add an application to the panel by clicking on the panel
05:02.28biohazrdi only get widgets, add and lock, edit panel.
05:03.45biohazrdsomehow i closed the desktop window that had all the icons and folders from my gnome desktop and cant find it either :)
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05:05.24crazy_peteright click the panel please
05:05.42crazy_petestill doesnt let u rename the associate desktop file though
05:06.23biohazrdi can click on the icon and edit it
05:06.31biohazrdjust seems like a clunky way of doing it.
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05:06.40crazy_peteyeah but it stays the same file name
05:06.42crazy_petebrb
05:07.00biohazrdshould be able to right click on the panel and choose "add custom launcher"
05:07.08biohazrdsomething to that effect
05:07.32biohazrdmy blender.desktop still exists in /usr/share/applications.
05:07.52biohazrdi think if i can figure out how to regenerate the menu it will come back
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05:09.29crazy_peteok i got this
05:10.05crazy_peteif you wanna add a kde app to the panel, you select "add application" and it copies the desktop file to your ~/.kde and edits it there
05:10.33biohazrdcrazy_pete, you using kde 4.3.1 ?
05:10.35crazy_peteif you wanna add a completely raw application to the panel you select "Add Non-KDE Application"
05:10.38crazy_petenope kde 3.54
05:10.40crazy_peteer
05:10.41crazy_pete3.5.4
05:10.52biohazrdthere is the problem
05:10.54biohazrdheh.
05:10.58crazy_petethere ya go :)
05:11.01biohazrdthey are way different in that respect
05:11.07biohazrdi used to used kde 3.5
05:11.17biohazrdso I figured something should be the same with it.
05:11.27biohazrdbut they have made it difficult :)
05:11.42crazy_petei gotta admit i am in love with kde
05:12.08crazy_peteyeah biohazrd  well thanks for yer interaction i learnt something new about kde just now :)
05:12.18biohazrdlol
05:12.20biohazrdnp
05:12.36biohazrd4.3.1 looks nice
05:12.46crazy_peteyeah
05:12.52biohazrdalmost too many settings
05:12.56crazy_petei might reinstall fedora on a partition or three on this machine
05:13.03crazy_peteand see what kde 4.x is all about
05:13.10crazy_petegot centos on it now
05:13.19biohazrdit compiled fine on my gentoo box
05:13.24crazy_petewhich is kde 3.5.4
05:13.45PhrkOnLshcrazy_pete: the kde-redhat repo has kde for rhel and clones
05:13.48crazy_petegonna reformat this box in a week or two though so not gonna do anything drastic now
05:13.48PhrkOnLshkde-redhat.sf.net
05:14.09crazy_petereally PhrkOnLsh and it has kde 4?  Awesome buddy thanks a lot!
05:14.25PhrkOnLshjust enable the unstable and testing repos.
05:14.49biohazrdPhrkOnLsh, you ever figure out how to regenerate the menu?
05:20.03biohazrdkmenuedit
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05:20.15biohazrdat least I could manually add it back in.
05:20.35biohazrdyou would think there would be something that rebuilt it based on /usr/share/application entries.
05:21.24biohazrdso i guess i have to use kmenuedit to make the application then drag it to the panel.
05:23.24biohazrdcrazy_pete, wasn't there some trick on making gtk+ apps look better?
05:23.34crazy_petedunno i hate gnome :)
05:23.38biohazrdI recall some option to retheme them
05:24.07crazy_pete(and no that is not an invitation to any lurkers to start a flame war about whether gtk is part of gnome or whether gnome sits ontop of gtk :) )
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06:45.42PhrkOnLshEse: we already told you in #fedora-kde
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08:38.11brain0morning
08:39.28brain0when a data source which I was connected to disappears, from a Plasma::DataEngine disappears, is it also automatically disconnected?
08:39.47brain0and: if I call disconnect on a source which I wasn't connected to, can anything bad happen?
08:40.00brain0and: what happens if I connect to a data source which doesn't exist?
08:40.44pinotreebrain0: → #plasma
08:42.01brain0wow, you guys have a separate plasma channel
08:42.19brain0you learn something new every day
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09:59.51denis|hello. I set proxy settings in kde settings, but the only browser that uses them is konqueror. Firefox & chromium don't see them :((
09:59.57denis|why is it so?
10:02.16andipdenis|: because konqueror is a part of kde, while firefox and chromium isn't i suppose. no reason why firefox or chromium should check kde-settings
10:03.30denis|and what about this http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=17363
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10:03.54denis|they say that chromium does respect kde proxy settings now
10:04.22denis|& also when i press the "change proxy settings" button in chromium options i get kde config window for proxy
10:04.34gkiagiadenis|: kde proxy settings are mostly for apps using kio
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10:05.06gkiagiadenis|: if chromium does read them, then it's probably a chromium bug that it does't respect them
10:05.16denis|but please, could you read the link above
10:05.26gkiagiabut firefox is not supposed to read them at all
10:05.32denis|they say that was fixed a while ago for chromium
10:05.34gkiagiaok
10:05.51denis|so, i wonder why it still refuses to work on my system
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10:07.06gkiagiamaybe you are hitting another bug?
10:07.47denis|the same bug for me :)
10:09.11pinotreewhat about asking in some chrome channel?
10:10.00denis|ok, ill give it a shot
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10:15.06denis|ok, i figured a workaround out
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10:15.40denis|just export http_proxy="server:port" before launching chromium
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10:16.44denis|but the page http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxProxyConfig says that's not an intented behavior
10:17.11Torchdenis|: this is not a chrome support channel.
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10:25.21elmargoldo i have to restart solid in order to get new solid actions?
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10:26.25elmargolI added a file /usr/share/apps/solid/actions/foobar.desktop
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10:30.15c0nstantindoes anybody know about the "ataX: SRST failed (errno=-16)" ? context fresh install
10:30.51cb400felmargol: dunno if there's another way than restarting kde.. the solid action won't just appear automatically in the same session
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10:43.17szalwhere do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1?  I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings
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11:22.08rogersmanhey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx
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11:28.19shiphello i would like know how i could set height of kdialog stuff with qdbus
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11:28.36shipi have tried with good success for some sfuff
11:28.47shipbut i can't get it for menu
11:29.23shipqdbus org.kde.kdialog-4556 /MainApplication
11:29.35shipbut then i can't find out the correct syntax
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11:34.47Abhinav1I am trying to install KDE on fedora 11 using yum and getting this error, :(  http://fedora.pastebin.com/m73dafc64 what to do?
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11:36.14James147Abhinav1: try asking in your distros channel
11:36.43Abhinav1ok thanks
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11:37.59darkdawn_and also try to look at diferences you got there on gstreamer ...
11:38.10darkdawn_you got 2 diff version
11:39.44darkdawn_also try to update your repo from rpmfusion free and nonfree
11:39.52darkdawn_hope this helps
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11:43.13kollapsHi, is there any way to make konsole show what the command you run wants to display on the title ?
11:43.24kollapsinstead of just the name of the command you're running ?
11:44.53JackWinteranyone know how i set the default "save as" directory in konqueror?
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11:46.12mzanettikollaps: afaik you can do this by settings the Tab text to %w. Not sure if that is really what you want....
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11:48.15phrearchhi
11:48.33phrearchi wonder if its possible to show only the taskbar items that are available in a certain desktop with kde 4.3
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11:50.39draugdelphrearch: right click on the taskbar, settings, only show windows from current screen (or so)
11:50.43James147phrearch: you can set it to only show from the current desktop by rightclicking a blank space of teh task bar and settings
11:52.10jad4wishes there was something as good as chrome for linux :S
11:53.22break19there is. I'm using chrome for linux right now..
11:53.32phrearchscratches his head
11:53.41darkdawn_JackWinter: you use kget to download?
11:53.48phrearchcant really find any taskbar options. i always end up on the panel settings
11:54.31draugdelphrearch: unlock the widgets, open the panel settings via clicking the cashew, and then right click on the taskbar
11:54.32James147phrearch: need to right click a blank part of the task manager widget
11:54.36mzanettiphrearch: open the panel settings and right-click on the taskbar again
11:54.38cb400fphrearch: most likely cuz you don't have empty space in your taskbar when you get the itch to change the settings  :-)
11:54.51draugdelfirst! :)
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11:55.41phrearchyes!, got it. thanks
11:56.21jad4break19, technically it's not chrome and it's not as good as... :S
11:56.35JackWinterdarkdawn_: no, i've still not gotten used to it.  i normally just do save as
11:56.50break19jad4: from what I can tell, there's virtually no difference..
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11:57.07jad4break19, hmm I'll have to give it a try again then
11:57.13phrearchthis really works well with some shortcuts for the desktops
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11:58.54break19"Note: The Linux build still lacks certain privacy features, and is not appropriate for general consumer use." That appears to be all it's lacking, from what I can ascertain
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12:02.58rogersmanhey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx
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12:09.37EseHi, how can I add weather providers to the weather widget? my location is not found...
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12:20.24szalwhere do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1?  I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings
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12:22.59miasmawill there be kde 4.3.2? the schedule page shows nothing
12:23.21szalmiasma: the schedule page didn't show 4.3.1 either before its release ;)
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12:24.11miasmaoh ok
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12:28.10shipanyone know how to change height of kdialog menu?
12:28.15shipvia qdbus?
12:28.25shipi can't find out :(
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12:36.27MarcoPauhello, wanted to enable the feature that allows to drag windows thru desktops. I don't seem to find it among the compositing effects
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12:37.42MarcoPauusing kubuntu jaunty with kde 4.3.1
12:37.58James147MarcoPau: System settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges --- Set "Switch desktop on edge" to "Only when moving windows"
12:39.00MarcoPauJames147: thank you! :)
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12:39.44MarcoPauone more question, I accidentally removed the menu bar on top of konsole and can't display it again
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12:40.16James147MarcoPau: Right click in the window :)
12:40.40MarcoPauLOL
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12:41.19MarcoPauthanks again, ciao
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12:49.41Nece228hey
12:49.47Nece228type in konqueror address:
12:49.50Nece228www.ubuntu.lt
12:50.00Nece228will konqueror crash to you?
12:50.03Nece228for me it does
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12:52.05cb400f4.3.1 konq doesn't crash here
12:52.20Nece228hmm
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12:52.35Nece228then wheres konqueror configuration file
12:52.43Nece228i think its settings foult again
12:52.51Nece228tough i have no clue why it happens to me
12:52.57Nece228*though
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12:57.10James147Nece228: Konquerors settings are in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror  and ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
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12:59.19Nece228James147: thanks but deleting cofiguration doesnt help
12:59.28Nece228Executable: konqueror PID: 2296 Signal: 6 (Aborted)
12:59.44Nece228thats all of the details
13:00.20andipi'm trying to get amarok's cover-thing working, but i don't really know where to start looking for errors. the cover manager tells me i've only got 2 missing covers, but in fact i'm missing about 150 covers. the search for album-covers _never_ return anything, no matter what i search for.
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13:02.45Nece228with web browser plasmoid everythings fine
13:02.51darkdawn_andip:/home/user/.kde/share/apps/amarok
13:02.58Nece228looks like its not konqueror's engine problem
13:05.08andipsorry, forgot to mention this is kde 4.3.1 and amarok 2.1.1
13:06.09darkdawn_.kde4 then
13:07.40darkdawn_to see the hidden file you have to enable from View-show hidden files
13:07.49andipdarkdawn_: i see some cryptinc names for albumcovers in that dir, but i can't really say why the reporting is faulty
13:08.05andipcryptic*
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13:08.53darkdawn_andip;i don't know try to install from scrypt manager again
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13:10.38andipdarkdawn_: aha! i never installed anything with script-manager.
13:10.51andipdarkdawn_: will see if i find a cover-script there then
13:11.52darkdawn_you'll find
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13:14.33lxsameerhi , i'm playing some music with some player and when i recive a message in pidgin or kopete that play a sound my music sound gone away way?
13:14.39darkdawn_and disable the one that is faulted
13:14.52aijukdm starts, but when I try to login, the screen turns black for a second and then it returns to the login screen
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13:16.13andipaiju: i got the same problem on one of my puters i believe. does it work if you login on a tty and the use "startx", but with little/no fs-functionality in konqueror?
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13:16.42aijuandip: didn't tried konqueror, but startx and dolphin work
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13:20.04Nece228darkdawn_ i dont want to reconfigure everything again
13:21.38aijuandip: I believe (I'm quite sure actually) it's an X server problem
13:21.39andipaiju: probarbly same problem as me then. if you look at your /var/log/messages file you'll probably see some pam-errors when you try to log in via kdm. tried forums and "everything", but i've yet to find a solution
13:22.04aijuandip: no, I don't see any problems with pam
13:22.26andipaiju: ok.. not same problem as me then, but same symptoms.. strange
13:23.13andipdarkdawn_: i can't find any cover-script installed actually. can't find one in the script-browser either. do you have a name for a script?
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13:36.23rogersmanhey all, the "tooltip", the little window that pops up when hovering over title in the panel or perhaps as a preview in dolphin, is always an opaque black and is rather intrusive...does anyone know whether it is possible to change opacity and/or colour, etc? thanx
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13:45.59Sho_rogersman: if you enable desktop effects it'd be translucent I think
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13:49.14rogersmannah, fraid not
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13:56.53Nece228people, please open ubuntu.lt/beta with konqueror, and press dokumentacija or forumas button
13:56.59Nece228will konqueror crash to you?
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13:58.08gerait's my first time using irc...
13:58.10gera:S
13:59.41Nece228come on people
13:59.49Nece228i need to know this
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14:00.40jthomas_sbNece228 checking for you now
14:01.16Nece228thanks
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14:01.35reficNece228: no crashing here
14:01.44Nece228strange
14:01.53Nece228what konqueror version you are using?
14:01.59jthomas_sbNece228 with Debian Sid and KDE 4.3.1, clicking on 'dokumentacija' does not crash Konqueror
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14:02.22reficNece228: 4.3.1
14:02.32Nece228it crashes to me, well, sorry for disturbing
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14:03.53Nece228this started to happen when i used web browser plasmoid
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14:05.02jthomas_sbNece228 maybe you should wipe out the konquerorrc file at ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc and see if that helps at all.
14:05.03aijumy kdm problem seems to be xauth related...
14:05.31Nece228dont helps, i even renamed .kdemod4 folder
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14:20.42NiekWhat's wrong with bugs.kde.org?
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14:23.35cmotYodel!  I'm about to plan an update of our (Debian Etch / KDE3.5 based) corporate desktop.  I'm thinking about switch to KDE4, of course, BUT I'd need some forced customizations (kiosk-like) or at least a sensible way to prepare a default profile.  Any HOWTOs about this?
14:24.03aijuwow got it working
14:24.14puslingkiosk still workses. just missing clickiyclkicy
14:24.31aijuandip: you should look if $DISPLAY is set correctly
14:24.45aijuthat was my problem
14:24.59aiju$DISPLAY was set to localhost:0.0, but kdm assumed it to be being :0
14:25.04aijuwhich caused some xauth trouble
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14:25.51cmotpusling, ok.  So the big task would be to sift through all the configuration to determine how much / what exactly to lock down.  I guess the configuration has changed a bit for the fundamental desktop look and feel ...
14:26.27puslingcmot: yeah. the core of it is kstandarddirs which haven't changed.
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14:27.01Zxcvbhow well will kde 4.3.1 work on a 1024x600 screen compared to 4.2.4?
14:27.30puslingZxcvb: around the same.
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14:27.48cmotpusling, sorry, don't know enough KDE to parse that.  kstandardddirs is what?
14:27.50n3llyb0ycan anyone point me to good resource about developing plasma widgets with Java?
14:28.09Zxcvbpulsing: do you know if kppp is usable now in 4.3.x?
14:28.54puslingcmot: the thing that let kde read a sequence of directories reading configurations
14:29.06cmotAh, ok.
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14:30.47cmotpusling, so I'd still start with /etc/kderc.  Or did you move that to /etc/kde4rc?  /etc/kde4/kderc?
14:30.59puslingcmot: I'm not fully sure.
14:31.21cmotNever mind, I'll find out.
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14:37.18sling-shotPCLinuxOS2009.2/KDE4 I am getting File Not Exists error while copying a directory from FAT HDD partition to a portable FAT formatted HDD. Extra commas are being reported in the source file name while they actually do not exist.
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14:41.49gerahey guys, how can i compress files in .rar? i'm using fedora
14:42.43gerait says "compress > rar file" when i click on the file
14:43.20gerabut then it says something like "rar" i not in PATH
14:44.02Moultgera: i'm not using fedora, but i would assume you need the `rar` application installed. check in /usr/bin do you have rar in there/
14:44.04Moult*?
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14:52.37NatenomHi, does anyone know where the notes widget on plasma stores its content? I tried a grep in ~ but couldn't find anything.
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15:23.53ZelutOK, I had this same problem the last time I installed KDE (4.3.x - arch), and I don't remember the solution.
15:24.13ZelutI want to sign/encrypt emails in Kmail but I instantly get "Bad passphrase", without being prompted for one.
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15:29.15rdieterZelut: which pinentry are you using?  (I'm currently having similar problems getting pinentry-qt4 to work)
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15:30.24ZelutI've configured gpg-agent.conf to use pinentry-qt4, which has worked in the past..
15:31.10rdieterpinentry-qt and pinentry-gtk-2 work for me as well, -qt4 (from pinentry-0.7.6) fails like what you're seeing for me => bad passphrase, no pinentry dialog at all
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15:32.45rdieterI'm currently trying to debug what's going wrong, here's the thread, http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2009-September/025358.html
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15:33.21Guest70750can anyone pls help me out with this problem i am having for 4 moth now?
15:33.29Guest70750SRST failed errno = -16
15:33.31Guest70750...
15:33.42Zelutrdieter: I'm fairly certain my configs and pinentry-qt4 should be valid because I track my configs in git and this is a new install with a recent checkout.
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15:33.51Zelutrdieter: my guess is its something funny with my agent somewhere
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15:35.45rdieterZelut: if you figure it out, please let me know what it was.
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15:37.36rogersman1hey all, anyone recommend a nice dock that plays well with kde4?
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15:41.25Fri13rogersman1: you mean taskmanager?
15:43.25Fri13if so, I suggest smooth task.
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15:46.46rogersman1hmm, was looking for an osx like clone
15:47.01rogersman1smoothdock was great...but...
15:49.00rogersman1also, while im here :-) is it possible to assign meta+mouse wheel to zoom desktop effect? that would be sweet...
15:49.26Guest70750SRST failed errno = -16 ... does anyone know anything about this error?
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15:51.22Fri13rogersman1: there is taskpanel called Kustodian. You can find it from KDE4 SVN playground only. As far I know.
15:52.30rogersman1cheers...ill have a look see
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17:02.32kvikasis kde.org really down or is it just my dns which is not resolving it?
17:03.27kvikasok it is resolvable but not pingable. so i think it is down. scheduled maintainence?
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17:36.41rindolfHi all.
17:37.13gerahi
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17:37.27gerahey guys, look at my desktop http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3784/instantnea13.png
17:37.28gera:)
17:37.35rindolfI'd like to start a slightly philosophical rant about KDE 4.x so please bear with me. First of all, I should note that I like KDE 4.3.x - it looks great, and mostly behaves like I want to.
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17:39.13rindolfHowever, it seems that it's still sluggish (= non-responsive) and has many quirks. Furthermore despite the fact that I have a P4-2.4GHz machine with 2.5GB of RAM and a fast card - ATI Radeon HD 2600 with the radeonhd driver , it's still kinda slow.
17:40.03geraI have a amd x2 4000 with 1gb RAM and I think it's fast
17:40.14geraoh and nvidia 7300gt
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17:40.27rindolf(These things can run circles around my original PC XT with 640 KB of RAM and a whopping colour CGA adapter and screen, which was already a fast computer consider the past).
17:40.31rindolfgera: it's not too slow.
17:40.38rindolfBut KDE 3.5.10 was faster.
17:40.45rindolfAnd IceWM is much faster.
17:40.53rindolfAnd so is E17 when it works properly.
17:41.28rindolfgera: I think my SPECS are somewhat worse than yours.
17:41.59rindolfgera: in any case, I don't think it has to be this way - I think it can be improved by optimising the code.
17:42.02w00trindolf: are there any actions in particular which are sluggish?
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17:42.06rindolfw00t: yes.
17:42.10w00trindolf: shoot =)
17:42.31rindolfw00t: for example, when switching to a different virtual desktop, the task bar is updated noticebly slow.
17:42.51rindolfw00t: and it takes a lot of time with the Windows to appear.
17:43.23rindolfPart of it may be because the X.Org stuff is in flux, which can make many things worse.
17:43.26w00tokay, are you able to open a terminal, run 'top' (or htop, or something similar) and see whether anything is chewing CPU?
17:43.29kvikasrindolf: it seems a problem with your settings and not KDE.
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17:43.50rindolfw00t: it happens at boot.
17:43.56rindolfkvikas: IceWM is fine in this regard.
17:44.03rindolfkvikas: and so is GNOME probably.
17:44.23w00trindolf: so, not after everything is started up?
17:44.33kvikasrindolf: do you have desktop effects switched on in kde?
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17:44.39rindolfkvikas: no, none.
17:45.05rindolfw00t: I mean  , it happens immediately after I start KDE
17:46.16w00tI understand, but, what I'm trying to ask you to look for is what on your system is causing the problem- whether it's some part of KDE itself, or something else (like X)
17:46.19kvikasrindolf: i also find my fluxbox faster than kde. but we should probably not compare the two. One is just a wm other is full blown DE. But still i do not find kde as as slow as you are describing.
17:46.51kvikasso as w00t suggested, fire top and see what is hogging CPU and RAM
17:47.12rindolfkvikas: Firefox seems to have grown out of control.
17:47.15rindolfLet me kill it.
17:47.22rindolf9 to 1 it won't remedy the situation.
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17:47.58kvikasah, running firefox in kde is like running 2 DEs. do you any other gtk apps running?
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17:48.35cumulus007Why is kde.org so slow and doesn't load stylesheets?
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17:48.51kvikascumulus007: i think it is down.
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17:50.24rindolfkvikas: don't think that i do.
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17:50.41rindolfkvikas: OK, with firefox, it still takes a lot of time to switch between virtual desktops.
17:50.49rindolfkvikas: oh wait, I have XChat running.
17:50.51rindolfAnd gvim.
17:50.56rindolfBut it shouldn't matter.
17:51.02rindolfgtk+ doesn't occupy so much RAM.
17:51.11rindolfNothing my 2.5GB of RAM +  1 GB of swap cannot handle.
17:51.42kvikasrindolf: agreed. so what else is the most cpu hogging app?
17:52.18rindolfkvikas: X and plasma-desktop.
17:52.36w00tX is using how much, roughly, as a percentage?
17:52.42rindolfNo , gam_server.
17:52.50rindolfAnd now plasma-desktop.
17:52.58rindolfNot a lot of CPU but above 5% of RAM.
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17:55.21strikeuHi is there any schedules for kde 4.3.2 ?
17:55.35kvikasgiven your system config, ram shouldn't be a problem for you. check cpu usage
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17:57.07beer__strikeu: normal a realse like that would be one month after the prior one so I think it will come within next week. But I dont knwo, just a guess
17:58.00beer__is kde.org down?
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17:58.27strikeuhmm looks like
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17:58.51szalwhere do I configure Flash plugin (already installed) for Konqueror 4.3.1?  I don't seem to have an option for that in the Settings
18:00.42strikeuI have problem with resizing plasma panels, is some way to fix it ?
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18:41.01Cool_Chello peoples, anyone know if it's possible to get rid of the white/gray flash that accompany panel autohiding in kde 4.2?
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19:03.43Digital_PioneerHey, can anyone give me a tip on malfunctioning kwin? Often times when I plug my laptop in, kwin goes black. I can't see anything except the mouse, until I restart kwin. I *can* do alt-F2 and type `kwin --replace` and that fixes it until next time, but still, it's a massive pain.
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19:09.45rdieterszal: when/if a flash object appears on a webpage, you can right click it, but there's no flash-specific configuration within konqueror (or any browser for that matter)
19:10.22szalrdieter: that would be the Flashplayer-own dialog, which is not what I want
19:10.37rdieterszal: ok, what *do* you want then? :)
19:11.06rdieteryou mean, configuring how/where konq finds and uses plugins?
19:11.10szalrdieter: in KDE3 there was an item in 'Configure Konqueror' to choose paths to plugins, e.g. libflashplayer.so; this is supposed to be there too in KDE4, but I don't seem to have it..
19:11.17rdieterit's there too
19:11.39szalwell, where is it then?
19:12.31rdietersame place as before, configure konqueror -> web browsing -> plugins
19:13.07szalbelieve it or not, I don't have that item
19:14.31rdieterszal: odd, maybe you're missing something then, depending on how you installed or your distro
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19:15.49szalrdieter: openSUSE 11.1, packaged
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19:16.05rdieterszal: ask them, they may have the plugin support packaged separately
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19:16.49szalhttp://www.abload.de/img/20090921_konq_configuru5io.png <<-- see here
19:17.15rdieterszal: I believe you! :)  #opensuse-kde is likely the best place for you
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19:26.41rogersman1evening all, does anyone know if it is possible to assign scroll wheel (+ mod) to zoom desktop effect? google isn't talking!
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19:30.31rogersman1and apparently neither is anyone here...:-p
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19:59.29lindenleHi All, just upgraded to 4.3 and now window switching and redraw is painfully slow. Any ideas?
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20:28.03PhrkOnLshhttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue194#KDE
20:28.08PhrkOnLshabout about 30MiB smaller :(
20:28.34PhrkOnLsh's grammar dies a little on the inside.
20:29.06PhrkOnLshdah, totally wrong channel.
20:29.17PhrkOnLsh's irssi skills die a little on the inside.
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20:49.30jzmeris there any way to disable advanced font features for konsole?
20:49.59jzmer(im using an opentype monospace fonts with lots of font features)
20:50.02oneforallhey why is it if I leave kde and then restart it and it loads konsole . It loads it with bash-3.1$ . It only does that when i leave kde and never closed konsole
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20:53.09s410iwhy kde.org doesn't work?
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20:55.51oneforallhmm not working for me either
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20:56.59jzmerdoesnt work for me as well.
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20:58.25s410ianyone know who to contact to check this?
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21:00.40gunniI cant set my clock to update with ntp server. When ever i change the settings, accept, click overview and go back, the setting is back to manual time. What do i do wrong? KDE 4.3.1
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21:37.03vcefhi
21:37.15vcefI have a little problem with keyboard layout switcher
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21:37.45vcef(actually it show only flag of one particular layout as far as I can tell)
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21:38.08vcefthe flags appear in the configuration dialog
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21:47.00Aluminis there a way to "reset" the mouse pointer?
21:47.19Aluminevery once in a while my mouse cursor image gets all messed up and the only way to fix it is to restart X
21:47.55FrogbarfWhat's with all the fake anti-virus website recently?
21:48.11AluminFrogbarf: they figured out how well it works :)
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21:48.36FrogbarfYeah but looks wierd when you have kde
21:49.28Frogbarfvery annoying
21:49.44hallownameFrogbarf: adblock?
21:50.02FrogbarfIf you do a google search for: autumnal equinox 2009 "3xact time"
21:50.13Frogbarfthe fist 7 or 8 results are infected
21:50.26Frogbarfoosp "exact time"
21:50.33Frogbarfvery strange
21:51.27IGIs there any way of finding Open Windows list, and the window id with focus using dcop?
21:51.43AluminIG: KDE 4.x?
21:52.00IGAlumin: KDE 3.5
21:52.07IGBut KDE 4.x will do too
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21:52.35Aluminwell, the reason I ask is that with KDE 4 you're probably looking at using D-Bus for that kind of thing rather than DCOP
21:52.51IGRight.
21:53.01IGBut is there a way using dbus?
21:53.15AluminIG: I don't know the specific answer to your question, but in a KDE 3.x environment I'd recommend installing kdcop and go surfing through kwin's section
21:53.28Aluminfor KDE 4.x, same thing, but the app to use is qtdbus
21:53.45Aluminer qdbus rather
21:53.57mgraesslinIG: have a look at WMIface
21:53.59IGAlumin: Yep, I did that. Couldn't find anything. Expected it to be part of kdesktop or kwin, but there is no such API
21:54.05mgraesslinyou can find it on kde-apps
21:54.07Aluminoh
21:54.20Aluminin that case, I got nothin', sorry :P
21:54.31IGmgraesslin: Thanks. Will take a look
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23:01.06milianhow is konsole split-views supposed to work? I mean for me the second view just does the same the first one does...
23:01.09miliannot really practical?!
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23:01.49milianor is it really required to open a second tab?
23:01.52milianstrange
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23:05.31bbeckI was wondering if anyone knew why when I hover over a button and a tool tip appears my fps drops by about 40 frames?
23:07.35PhrkOnLshmilian: you can point the second view at a different tab.
23:07.51milianPhrkOnLsh: pretty lame imo
23:07.58milianeach view should have its own set of tabs
23:08.01milianbut well...
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23:13.40oneforallkonsole I just like opening another tab
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23:14.56PhrkOnLshmilian: I don't use it, so my opinion is null and void ;)
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23:16.30johnny69Trying to find,  "Kpf"  (public file server)  Can't find it anywhere in my distro,  yast and smart aren't showing it either.  Is it possible to grab this seperately anywhere?    (suse 11.0/kde 3.x)   Thank you.
23:18.06PhrkOnLshjohnny69: kde-apps.org, though I'm surprised SuSE doesn't have it.
23:18.42johnny69PhrkOnLsh:   It showed up in one install of Suse,  didn't show up in the very next install.  Same version!!  Just weird.
23:18.55johnny69PhrkOnLsh:   Oh,  and thank you.,
23:19.23PhrkOnLshjohnny69: perhaps it was in a repo you didn't have enabled in the new install?
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23:19.58PhrkOnLshjohnny69: try asking in #suse, they'd probably know
23:20.06johnny69PhrkOnLsh:   I was suspecting that.  But this is my main machine and I've repo'd this bad puppy to death!  I've got repo's coming out the ying-yang.   :)
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23:21.44PhrkOnLshjohnny69: idk then :( #suse would know, though
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23:22.14bpunI use gnome-settings-daemon when i login to kde (use of autostart folder), are there any other gnome-like helpers i should know about? my icedove (thunderbird) email client lags when i scroll the message lists..
23:23.53pinotreebpun: #gnome
23:24.19bpunpinotree, go to #gnome. i've asked there as well.. you're very thoughtful
23:25.00pinotreebpun: given that none of gnome-settings-daemon nor thunderbird is kde, asking here is pointless
23:25.28pinotreeno need to spam questions in unrelated channels
23:25.42bpunpinotree, go fuck yourself
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23:25.56pinotreeLOL!
23:26.34PhrkOnLshyeah, pinotree ! xD
23:26.37PhrkOnLshhe told you!
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23:30.21bbeckI just asked this, but maybe I posed the question wrong.  Could someone turn on the kwin fps module, and confirm (or deny) that the fps drops considerably when hovering over something that creates a tooltip?
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23:37.26bbeckWell it seems to happen in pure QT apps, so maybe the question goes there.
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23:51.47EdganHow do I automatically run screen in konsole 2.3 of KDE 4.3.1? I tried changing the "command" option in the profile, but it then closes the window right after konsole opens.
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23:52.44mang0Heya fellas. I just installed KDE 4.3.1 and for some reason everytime I hit the bottom pannel, or start up some applications it just restarts X...anybody have an idea why?
23:53.54mang0Anybody got a clue?
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