00:00.12 | PovAddict | you can put launchers in a systray?? |
00:00.16 | sreich | oneforall: a widget is e.g. a task manager, a folderview, etc etc |
00:00.19 | oneforall | cibaer yeah I liked that too in the right click it had the K menu to add it right there |
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00:00.21 | cibaer | me? not in systray |
00:00.31 | cibaer | in panel |
00:00.45 | sreich | PovAddict: no. plasma widgets can be embedded in the systray, but I think that is trunk atm... |
00:00.50 | cibaer | that would be also in the kde4 quicklauncher |
00:01.01 | cibaer | also..a nice feature.. |
00:01.03 | oneforall | yeah kde3 right click on the kicker(now panel) :) |
00:01.31 | PovAddict | I think KDE has always called it panel |
00:01.44 | PovAddict | the kicker was only the app-launching menu on the panel |
00:01.49 | sreich | yes |
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00:02.05 | oneforall | well kde to restart ir when it diapeared was umm kicker & :) |
00:02.09 | oneforall | kde3 |
00:02.34 | sreich | and now it's plasma that hosts the panels, widgets etc |
00:02.42 | sreich | so plasma-desktop & restarts it |
00:02.46 | sreich | well, starts it |
00:03.04 | PovAddict | is getting distracted here |
00:03.10 | PovAddict | quits some IRC channels |
00:03.11 | oneforall | well its a habit for me to say it |
00:03.41 | PovAddict | btw just closing my current wallet and moving the .kwl from my old kde3.5 system was enough, worked perfectly |
00:03.43 | oneforall | even doing plasma-desktop I have to think of whatits called for that |
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00:04.10 | momesana_ | cibaer: a shame that bluetooth still doesn't work for kde4. It's a vital piece of software |
00:04.12 | oneforall | still start typing kic<backspace> |
00:04.23 | momesana_ | especially the bluetooth:/ sdp:/ protocols |
00:04.25 | cibaer | I don't know if it does not work in general |
00:04.31 | cibaer | for me it did not work |
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00:08.28 | oneforall | hmm so is that the only way to get the clock to change, is plasma-desktop |
00:08.47 | marcosRz | I wonder if !kubuntu #netbook edition works kool on 10.1" WSGA screen, or should I go for a 'normal' kde? |
00:08.53 | marcosRz | ops |
00:08.57 | marcosRz | I wanted to twit that |
00:09.17 | oneforall | I see i the setting panel in regions & language it changed there . but not the clock and not under date & time in the setting panel |
00:10.47 | paul424 | also why you don't set the kde4.3 to be the fastest when installed out of the package ... than someone could use the bells and whistles if he want ... now I just played around with the settings and it works very nice ... before I prefered the gnome or xfce ... |
00:11.05 | cibaer | another feature I really like to see in kde4 to set the clock from context menu |
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00:12.10 | oneforall | context menu you mean when you right click on the clock and it there. ? |
00:12.13 | sreich | paul424: because people tend to be amazed by animations/"bells and whistles" |
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00:12.52 | oneforall | I miss that . always having to goto the setting panel is terrible |
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00:13.05 | cibaer | yes |
00:13.43 | sreich | cibaer: yeah, it is a bit out of the way.. |
00:13.49 | sreich | cibaer: file a wish |
00:14.09 | sreich | makes sense to be able to set the time from either the context menu, or in the widget's settings |
00:14.14 | oneforall | ugh I removed it from the kicker and brought it back and its still on army time . |
00:14.22 | cibaer | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=210178 |
00:14.39 | cibaer | vote :) |
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00:15.39 | sreich | oneforall: did you restart plasma? |
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00:16.03 | cibaer | mhm, would be a simple task |
00:16.15 | cibaer | perhaps I can work on this |
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00:17.03 | oneforall | sreich na I kinda hate doing it when it hasn't crashed . But I guess thats the only way. need to report that I gess |
00:18.07 | sreich | yes, I'm guessing it's because of the plasma time dataengine not being updated or something along those lines.. |
00:20.55 | momesana_ | cibaer: find out how to acquire root privileges in kde |
00:21.03 | momesana_ | cibaer: I guess the rest won't be that difficult |
00:21.09 | momesana_ | cibaer: maybe we can do that together |
00:21.43 | momesana_ | cibaer: I haven't done any kde specific programming lately but I often program in qt |
00:21.44 | oneforall | $ plasma-desktop hmm thats didn't do it |
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00:22.02 | sreich | momesana_: root privileges for what? |
00:22.08 | momesana_ | sreich: for setting the clock |
00:22.19 | paul424 | ehem how do I disable the folders preview from the desktoip ? |
00:22.30 | oneforall | yeah iirc kde3 it did that asked for the root passowrd |
00:22.38 | momesana_ | sreich: changing the date requires root priviliges ... try using "date" as a normal user ;) |
00:22.48 | sreich | momesana_: that's easy |
00:22.50 | sreich | kdesu |
00:22.55 | sreich | same way syssettings does it |
00:22.59 | momesana_ | sreich: nope. I mean from within an application |
00:23.11 | cibaer | it is possible to have 2 kde4 installations? and easily switch between them? also from kde3 sessions (using programms from different kde4-versions)? |
00:23.11 | momesana_ | sreich: I don't think systemsettings uses kdesu |
00:23.17 | sreich | system settings is an application |
00:23.20 | oneforall | yeah the app whould have to use kdesu |
00:23.34 | cibaer | for now I don't want to switch to trunk |
00:23.46 | oneforall | like super user konsole does :0 |
00:23.48 | momesana_ | sreich: yes, but kdesu starts a new process with admin priviliges as far as I know |
00:24.02 | sreich | yes |
00:24.13 | momesana_ | sreich: you want to elevate an existing process into super user mode |
00:24.19 | sreich | momesana_: system settings does use kdesu, indirectly or otherwise |
00:24.28 | momesana_ | sreich: I am not familiar with the systemsettings code but it's hard to belive that it works with kdesu |
00:24.32 | sreich | me neither |
00:24.34 | sreich | :) |
00:24.35 | momesana_ | sreich: how you know? |
00:24.41 | momesana_ | sreich: I really doubt that |
00:24.50 | sreich | because kdesu pops up with an indirect command |
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00:25.49 | momesana_ | sreich: you are right |
00:25.54 | cibaer | ha, thats cool: in kde4 I can open the time kcm, and are asked for root pwd when I want to apply |
00:25.55 | momesana_ | sreich: ugly |
00:25.58 | cibaer | thats nice |
00:26.03 | oneforall | well konsole super user uses kdesu , cltrl+alt+F1 :) |
00:26.04 | sreich | momesana_: the command that it runs is, yeah :) |
00:26.12 | sreich | but other than that it's nice |
00:26.20 | sreich | cibaer: yep |
00:26.22 | oneforall | user editor does too |
00:26.29 | sreich | most kcm's tend to do that |
00:26.43 | momesana_ | sreich: I think it is not possible at all to assign a user process root privileges after it has been started but I am not sure |
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00:27.39 | sreich | momesana_: yeah, I don't think so either, but the command it runs is external |
00:27.42 | sreich | it seems |
00:29.09 | momesana_ | sreich: in kde3 there seemed to be a way to elevate the process into superuser mode |
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00:29.33 | momesana_ | sreich: "seemed" which doesn't mean that it was really so |
00:29.45 | sreich | yeo |
00:29.47 | sreich | *yep |
00:30.10 | momesana_ | cibaer: actually it would be enough to put a button in the clock applet that activates the system settings dialog with the date and settings widget |
00:30.28 | cibaer | yes |
00:30.37 | momesana_ | cibaer: is that possible using dbus? |
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00:30.52 | shepherd | Heya, I have a lame question: The icons on my desktop, I can barely read the text beneath each one because the text is white with a faint black shadow, is there a way to change the color of that text? |
00:30.55 | cibaer | don't know, have to take a look |
00:31.09 | momesana_ | cibaer: it be good to ask on kde-devel |
00:31.27 | sreich | momesana_: through dbus? why? |
00:31.27 | cibaer | or look on other places how it is done |
00:31.33 | sreich | that sounds liek a complete hack |
00:31.47 | momesana_ | sreich: well, applications should talk to each other through dbus |
00:31.50 | paul424 | hi how do I speed up the konqueror ? |
00:31.56 | momesana_ | sreich: as they did through dcop in kde3 |
00:32.03 | sreich | momesana_: yes...when it's needed.. |
00:32.29 | sreich | but that implies that the system settings dialog that has the data and settings kcm is always running |
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00:32.34 | sreich | which doesn't make any sense |
00:32.46 | sreich | just run it yourself |
00:32.51 | momesana_ | sreich: yes, didn't think about that |
00:32.52 | sreich | (in code, I mean) |
00:33.12 | momesana_ | sreich: what if a systemsettings dialog is already open? |
00:33.48 | sreich | dbus, dcop, etc. are meant for IPC, meaning 2 > processes have to be alive for it to work (well there is a wake/execute when needed, but that's a separate thing) |
00:33.49 | momesana_ | sreich: actually one should look if there is a systemsettings dialog open first, if not start one, then set it to the preferred date and time settings dialog |
00:33.53 | sreich | yes |
00:34.48 | paul424 | hi how do I speed up the konqueror ? |
00:35.14 | momesana_ | paul424: why? is it too slow? |
00:35.36 | paul424 | takes ages to open a fresh window from desktop |
00:35.39 | sreich | momesana_: the kcm is not exposed to dbus btw... |
00:35.55 | momesana_ | sreich: hm |
00:35.59 | sreich | anyways, the kcm is likely just a frontend for some time-adjusting lib.. |
00:36.04 | momesana_ | paul424: you have to find out why this is the case |
00:36.31 | momesana_ | paul424: there is actually nothing you can do to speed up an application like konqueror except hacking on its code and finding bottlenecks |
00:36.42 | momesana_ | paul424: on my box it's pretty fast |
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00:37.06 | momesana_ | paul424: it takes less than a second to open a window after I click on the konqueror icon |
00:37.26 | momesana_ | paul424: fractions of a second |
00:37.48 | paul424 | <PROTECTED> |
00:38.11 | lokomoko | https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/3.7_Linux_Theme_Mockups BLASPHEMY! A theme for kde! |
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00:38.34 | lokomoko | Has the world gone mad! |
00:38.47 | oneforall | ok I did a kill -9 3982 then plasma-desktop |
00:38.50 | momesana_ | paul424: you mean it is fast when you start it via console and slow if you do it otherwise? |
00:39.07 | paul424 | yes |
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00:39.50 | momesana_ | paul424: very very strange |
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00:40.10 | momesana_ | paul424: what about starting it via Alt + F2 |
00:41.13 | paul424 | if there woud be a way to debug that ... instead I see only a bougncing coursor |
00:41.19 | paul424 | the alt f2 does not work |
00:41.49 | momesana_ | paul424: what? if you press alt + f2 the run dialog doesn't appear? |
00:42.06 | momesana_ | paul424: a run dialog should appear where you can type in konqueror to make it start |
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00:43.00 | paul424 | yeah kill me,. but thats not working ... also after choosing the runner from the main menu I get |
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00:43.19 | paul424 | it after a few seconds .... |
00:43.30 | momesana_ | paul424: something seems to be seriously wrong with your kde it seems |
00:44.50 | momesana_ | paul424: maybe it's better to log out, move your .kde settings directory to .kde.backup and then start kde to get a fresh configuration. If everything works then ... it might have been something wierd with your configuration. You can revert to your old config files by deleting the new .kde dir and moving back your .kde.back directory |
00:45.25 | paul424 | ok thanks |
00:45.53 | momesana_ | paul424: what version of kde are you using anyway? |
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00:46.41 | sasalli | hello. how can i change font size of windows, desktop etc. thanks! |
00:46.59 | sasalli | KDE 4.3.2 |
00:47.12 | sreich | System Settings->Appearance->Fonts |
00:47.27 | paul424 | MonsieurHibou: I use KDE 4.3.2 |
00:47.39 | paul424 | momesana_: upps I mean you |
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00:47.42 | sasalli | aha, Thanks sreich! |
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01:01.47 | psypointer | hi |
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01:02.17 | psypointer | will kde 4 support seperate x screens anytime or isn't this feature planned? |
01:02.31 | psypointer | (xinerama doesn't work with composite, so i have no eyecandy here :( ) |
01:03.05 | sreich | use twinview |
01:03.11 | sreich | if you have nvidia |
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01:12.46 | psypointer | uhm wtf sreich |
01:12.52 | psypointer | thats exactly what i needed |
01:13.05 | sreich | ?? |
01:13.06 | psypointer | sreich: thanks, but whats the difference between twin view and dual view with xinerama? |
01:13.28 | psypointer | (i worked almost 1 year without composite because i thought that it isn't supported with 2 displays :S) |
01:14.16 | sreich | haha |
01:14.20 | sreich | idk, I think it's an nvidia thing |
01:14.29 | sreich | they "deprecated" xinerama |
01:14.31 | sreich | I guess |
01:14.45 | psypointer | hm, so it is a nvidia driver feature, not a default xorg feature |
01:15.18 | FoxBlitzz | How come PowerDevil sometimes fails to grab the backlight level (therefore setting the backlight to 0% every time the power profile changes or I drag the slider)? |
01:15.44 | FoxBlitzz | The xbacklight utility works fine |
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01:16.54 | FoxBlitzz | This doesn't always occur. Most of the time on boot, it is able to see the backlight and interface with it |
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01:18.51 | shepherd | Sigh, anytime any application does anything related to audio it puts my master volume to 0... |
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01:37.00 | paul424 | makmanalp: ok now it works well thanks |
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01:44.58 | psypointer | okay, good bye guys! |
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01:45.49 | paul424 | hmm so quiet here, because of the helloween ? |
01:46.51 | PhrkOnLsh | more likely because it is saturday night |
01:47.07 | PhrkOnLsh | though halloween probably compounds int |
01:47.08 | PhrkOnLsh | it |
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01:54.48 | paul424 | PhrkOnLsh: do you have any idea how I can customize the size of the icons at the toolbar of konqueror ? |
01:55.11 | sreich | paul424: right click |
01:55.22 | PhrkOnLsh | paul424: right click -> icon size |
01:57.24 | white_pelican | is there a poker game available on a par with the old kpoker? |
01:57.56 | paul424 | hehe thats amazing how sometimes you are failing at simple things :\ hmm anyway big thanks |
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02:03.15 | paul424 | also is there a way of restoring the defualt main menu structure ? I mean the entries ... ? |
02:03.50 | paul424 | also suppose I want to run some command just after the desktop starts, where should I put it ? |
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02:11.20 | sreich | paul424: for the latter, SystemSettings::Advanced->Autostart |
02:11.44 | sreich | paul424: default menu structure? you mean so Kickoff looks like the classic one? right click it and select classic, provided widgets are unlocked |
02:12.22 | paul424 | no I just lost the entries ... now the development label is empty |
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02:53.31 | oops6_4 | Hi can anyone tell me how big is KDE source code if I check out from svn |
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02:54.40 | PhrkOnLsh | oops6_4: you don't want to check out all of kde |
02:56.00 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: actually I just want to check out Kate source code how do I do it just want to start fixing some bug there. how do I do this |
02:56.11 | PhrkOnLsh | oops6_4: checkout the kdesdk module |
02:56.31 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: ok will do that thanks |
02:56.34 | PhrkOnLsh | techbase.kde.org has the details |
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02:59.36 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: to work with this code I have to have kdevelop is it so ? |
02:59.47 | PhrkOnLsh | no |
03:00.01 | PhrkOnLsh | just cmake, gcc and the build dependencie |
03:00.03 | PhrkOnLsh | s |
03:00.09 | PhrkOnLsh | kdevelop is just iciing on the cake |
03:00.28 | maazu | no kdevelop? |
03:00.42 | PhrkOnLsh | you don't need it. |
03:01.17 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: so just QT and cmake will do that work, It means I can use QT Creator too |
03:01.33 | PhrkOnLsh | yes |
03:01.39 | PhrkOnLsh | watching a movie, bll |
03:01.40 | PhrkOnLsh | bbl |
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03:03.24 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: ok thanks |
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03:10.14 | maazu | g'bye! |
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03:24.37 | Moult | how do i make it such that links from external programs eg: kopete, quassel, etc open in my existing konqueror window in a new tab instead of opening a new window? |
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03:29.53 | xdan779 | Moult: under konq settings -> configure konqueror -> General checkmark the box called open as tab in existing konqueror when url is called externally of note this is under version 4.3.1 |
03:30.06 | Moult | xdan779: i already have that checked. |
03:32.18 | Moult | http://google.com <-- just testing |
03:33.01 | xdan779 | Moult: that is the correct option to do that, I am not sure it there is a differant way of setting that |
03:33.14 | Moult | hmm, well it's still not working. oh well. |
03:33.20 | Moult | switches back to Firefox. |
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03:37.30 | yao_ziyuan | next time kde can use something like this: |
03:37.35 | yao_ziyuan | http://imagebin.ca/view/zf6Z7T-W.html |
03:37.43 | yao_ziyuan | http://imagebin.ca/view/h5Ec7vNP.html |
03:37.51 | yao_ziyuan | the window decoration is Aurorae |
03:37.59 | oops6_4 | I checked out the kdesdk from svn the as per the README file I tried compiling it as cmake but its give this error http://dpaste.com/114862/ then I tried cmake -G Kdevelop3 but still won't work please tell me how do I compile kdesdk |
03:38.06 | yao_ziyuan | the window buttons aren't original, of course. |
03:38.15 | yao_ziyuan | but this is the best so far |
03:38.25 | sreich | not imo |
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03:38.38 | sreich | there's one that I like more in Aurorae.. |
03:38.59 | sreich | the "glowglass" one |
03:39.00 | yao_ziyuan | sreich: which? |
03:39.30 | yao_ziyuan | glowglass-cupertino? |
03:41.19 | yao_ziyuan | i see. |
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03:49.34 | oneforall | ah crap this happens too much to go back to click on that darn peanut or the destop or another app , and the darn thing snaps back to the old spot O.o |
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03:53.15 | oops6_4 | I checked out the kdesdk from svn the as per the README file I tried compiling it as cmake but its give this error http://dpaste.com/114862/ then I tried cmake -G Kdevelop3 but still won't work please tell me how do I compile kdesdk |
03:53.20 | oneforall | konq file manager mode is there a way to resize the right/left tabs bar ? I'd like to cut the width down |
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03:57.18 | paul424 | is there such feauture that, if I say I have high contrast wallpaper then the kde chooses to colour of the font for each icon, so that it is readable ? |
04:07.16 | sugoi | is there a mp3 player owned by kde? i know amarok used kde, but is it the kde de facto mp3 player? |
04:07.49 | Moult | sugoi: amarok joined kde i think. just use it. |
04:08.03 | paul424 | hello |
04:08.16 | sugoi | i'm happy to use it - just looking for opinions i spose |
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04:11.10 | genu | Hey I'm trying to modify a plasmoid...and i'm supposed add a few lines to the code...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook?content=106752 ...where is the file I need to modify though? |
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04:27.20 | oneforall | darn mow I can't get konq to use mplayer instead of gmplayer. |
04:29.27 | oneforall | IOts not letting me add it to the file association and when I right click I don't see the check box the save it either |
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04:30.34 | oneforall | right click<open with>mplayer then the check box |
04:30.55 | detriage | is there a way to turn off slide hovers on panel popups? |
04:31.45 | sreich | detriage: what do you mean? |
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04:33.32 | genu | Hey I'm trying to modify a plasmoid...and i'm supposed add a few lines to the code...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Facebook?content=106752 ...where is the file I need to modify though? |
04:33.46 | detriage | sreich: the desription hover popup on plasma panels. |
04:33.56 | sreich | the tooltips? |
04:34.03 | detriage | sreich: its annoyingly laggy and i just noticed why. |
04:34.13 | detriage | sreich: yeah, tooltips. |
04:34.28 | sreich | task manager widget settings |
04:34.45 | oneforall | Remember application association for this type of file |
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04:35.22 | detriage | sreich: where? |
04:35.36 | sreich | right click the task manager widget |
04:37.42 | detriage | sreich: act. believe it or not its the tooltips on launchable application items in panel. |
04:37.57 | sreich | oh |
04:38.25 | detriage | panel-wide tooltips. |
04:38.34 | sreich | you can also do System Settings->Desktop.. |
04:38.45 | sreich | All effects->Sliding Popups(0) |
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04:39.11 | sreich | think that turns off their slideyness |
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04:42.47 | oneforall | err again a pain to get it back to quickview and even then its not the same. |
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04:52.14 | oneforall | darn searh bar is so small in width . |
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05:09.12 | Hell-Razor | anybody know what may cause the error "undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData7detach3Ev" i googled around with no help. heres an output of the error http://nopaste.com/p/aPYJfkcXlb |
05:09.58 | PhrkOnLsh | Hell-Razor: someone was in here yesterday asking about that, i think |
05:10.17 | PhrkOnLsh | but I don't have my logs around to give you any hekp :( |
05:10.35 | Hell-Razor | auh damn |
05:11.18 | Hell-Razor | all i can see is it may have to do with qt and kde |
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05:17.55 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: Hi I checked out the Kdesdk but not able to compile kate has some error are there any dependencies which I have to 1st install and then compile |
05:18.31 | oops6_4 | PhrkOnLsh: its showing some errors with ui files |
05:18.37 | PhrkOnLsh | oops6_4: many you shouldn't have to compile, they should be available for your distro.. |
05:18.48 | PhrkOnLsh | oops6_4: but this is a problem for #kde-devel I think |
05:19.03 | oops6_4 | ok |
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05:35.34 | oneforall | hmm rc3 why not get 4.3.2 . it needs a couple patches thou kdesu-allow_NOPASS_in_suauth.patch.gz and kdelibs-4.3.2-mutex.diff.gz |
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06:10.10 | PhrkOnLsh | is kwin tabbing featured for 4.4 or after? |
06:10.28 | lmurray | PhrkOnLsh, 4.4 |
06:10.34 | PhrkOnLsh | awesome |
06:10.37 | PhrkOnLsh | lmurray: thanks :-) |
06:10.39 | lmurray | We are almost at a merge to trunk |
06:10.52 | PhrkOnLsh | lmurray: that is looking like an awesome feature ;) |
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06:11.27 | PhrkOnLsh | has too many konqi windows with too many tabs ;) |
06:11.31 | lmurray | As long as you know exactly what it's used for |
06:11.41 | lmurray | It's not a WM-based application tabbing |
06:11.49 | lmurray | It's window tabbing |
06:12.09 | lmurray | Why everyone thinks it's the former I have no idea |
06:12.18 | PhrkOnLsh | wait, explain that to me |
06:12.39 | lmurray | You will not be able to have applications open new "tabs" in the decoration |
06:12.43 | PhrkOnLsh | windows tabbing->one tab per applications? |
06:12.53 | lmurray | But you will be able to merge two windows to have the same geometry at all times. |
06:13.16 | PhrkOnLsh | is confused |
06:13.21 | PhrkOnLsh | digs up the planet posts about it |
06:14.11 | lmurray | In Konqueror if you open a new page in a new window it will open a new floating window. If you want that to appear in the decoration tabs you must manually drag it there |
06:14.17 | PhrkOnLsh | and watches konqi segfault |
06:14.28 | PhrkOnLsh | lmurray: yes, i know that |
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06:14.50 | lmurray | So as long as you don't expect windows to automatically be added to the decoration tabs then it's fine :) |
06:14.59 | lmurray | Many people think they will automatically be created |
06:15.13 | PhrkOnLsh | lmurray: no, i understood that |
06:15.21 | PhrkOnLsh | lmurray: will it persist across sessions, though? |
06:15.22 | lmurray | Then you're fine : |
06:15.23 | lmurray | ) |
06:15.28 | lmurray | Atm no it's not |
06:15.30 | lmurray | Haven't written that yet |
06:15.37 | lmurray | It's on the TODO though |
06:15.44 | PhrkOnLsh | that would be the cream on top :) |
06:16.49 | PhrkOnLsh | thanks lmurray |
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06:23.13 | oneforall | lmurray talking about konq(file manager mode) how do I get it back to opening a wmv with mplayer and not the old netscape plugin. |
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06:24.00 | lmurray | I'm not the person that you should be asking. I don't use Konqueror |
06:25.31 | oneforall | I never had this much trouble with konq in kde3 . its too much dolphin :( |
06:26.11 | hagabaka | ugh, why does konqueror freeze/crash on so many websites? |
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06:28.26 | oneforall | dunno but kde3 konq is much better |
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06:37.05 | oneforall | even the download popups are gone now . |
06:38.48 | PhrkOnLsh | konqueror in kde4 is AGES ahead of konq3. |
06:40.12 | GNU\colossus | while that's true, it could be better still |
06:40.35 | PhrkOnLsh | sure, and so could $foo |
06:40.42 | PhrkOnLsh | where $foo is anything |
06:41.55 | oneforall | well considering all I used to do easier isn't working to well and lots are missing that not ages ahead that behind |
06:42.22 | oneforall | and this strigi thing is like a bug I want to stomp on |
06:44.24 | PhrkOnLsh | oneforall: then disable it? |
06:47.42 | oneforall | well it comes from this what looks like i and I right click on that and it gives me the option to remove the tray |
06:48.12 | oneforall | and I really hate I can't clcik now and have the video in mplayer . |
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06:50.56 | oneforall | err frustrating . things that get in the damn way and now again searchign to turm it off |
06:51.35 | PhrkOnLsh | oneforall: strigi? |
06:51.44 | PhrkOnLsh | systemsettings->advanced->nepomuk |
06:52.11 | PhrkOnLsh | grr what's wrong with my network? |
06:52.17 | sugoi | is there a hotkey (or hotkey-able action) to switch from the editor to the konsole window in kdevelop? |
06:57.25 | oneforall | yeah it was in the tray and that what was indexing all the downloads. and then a popup that stuck to the kicker panel that stacks 1 on top of the other and gets in the way. can't move them ot min. its in my way now could see to type all of minamize and guessing right now |
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06:57.51 | PhrkOnLsh | oneforall: what version of kde are you on |
06:57.58 | oneforall | 4.3.2 |
06:58.24 | PhrkOnLsh | right click the (i) go to systray settings and uncheck popup notices for file transfters and other jobs |
06:59.01 | oneforall | yeah i got that and there is one stuck there now |
06:59.12 | oneforall | and the i is gone now O.o |
06:59.43 | PhrkOnLsh | brb, debugging network |
07:00.07 | oneforall | err now I unchecked the rest and kmix doesn't show and norrow to expand it |
07:00.39 | oneforall | 1 running jon(0 seconds remaining |
07:00.46 | oneforall | jon/job |
07:03.38 | oneforall | err got it got the i back clicked in it then it reduced it . now to get rid of that |
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07:04.20 | oneforall | ahhh as soon as you right click it brings that back up ahhhh |
07:04.44 | oneforall | ok right click on the left of it O.o |
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07:46.57 | shadeslayer | hi im thinking of checking out kde svn,can someone point me to a guide which builds it in such a way that i can choose between my stable KDE and KDE svn from kdm? |
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07:48.04 | PhrkOnLsh | techbase.kde.org |
07:48.33 | shadeslayer | PhrkOnLsh: can you point me to the exact link? |
07:49.25 | PhrkOnLsh | wonders if the search function is broken |
07:49.54 | PhrkOnLsh | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
07:50.10 | PhrkOnLsh | you create a seperate user for trunk, log in using that user and, yeah, stuff happens |
07:50.36 | shadeslayer | PhrkOnLsh: bad stuff :P |
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09:12.01 | robert_ | I minimized the plasma desktop wallpaper chooser thing and now the taskbar won't do anythnig |
09:12.03 | robert_ | anything** |
09:12.26 | robert_ | oh nevermind |
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09:50.24 | Debian-user | Is anyone here? |
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09:51.02 | pinotree | just ask your question, don't ask "anybody here" |
09:51.55 | Debian-user | How would i install new wallpapers manually? Downloading from kdelook.org |
09:52.04 | Debian-user | Where would i paste? |
09:52.12 | Debian-user | In /usr/share/wallpapers ? |
09:52.14 | Debian-user | ? |
09:52.31 | pinotree | for example, yes |
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09:56.31 | Debian-user | pinotree: I get only , Constantine form /usr/share/wallpapers, |
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09:56.56 | Debian-user | pinotree: Though i have downloaded from system settings>get new wallpapers |
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09:57.34 | pinotree | locally downloaded wallpapers go to ~/.kde/share/wallpapers, as a simple user cannot write by default in system locations |
09:59.09 | Debian-user | pinotree: What's the shortcut key to see hidden files? , CTRL+H doesn't work i dolphin |
09:59.30 | pinotree | view â show hidden files? |
09:59.45 | Torch | Debian-user: alt + . |
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10:02.36 | Debian-user | Is there any shortcut key to go to the desktop? CTRL+ALT+D is the shortcut key for gnome desktop. |
10:03.17 | soa2ii | Can I somehow access KDE3 KWallet-Data with KDE4 KWallet? |
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10:05.02 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
10:05.24 | Torch | Debian-user: see system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts. mainly kwin and plasma. |
10:06.00 | Debian-user | Ok |
10:06.24 | gkiagia_ | soa2ii: yes, you can either import the kde3 kwallet data file or even replace the kde4 one with the kde3 one |
10:08.11 | Debian-user | pinotree: And if i want to manually install theme , where would i download theme from kdelook.org? |
10:08.21 | pinotree | which kind of theme? |
10:09.06 | Debian-user | pinotree: Desktop theme like aya, oxygen etc |
10:09.24 | soa2ii | gkiagia: Where do I find the KWallet-File? |
10:09.33 | soa2ii | .kde # find . -name "*wallet*" |
10:09.37 | soa2ii | returns nothing |
10:10.00 | pinotree | why searching as root? |
10:10.11 | soa2ii | pinotree: I just got a root shell open |
10:10.33 | Debian-user | soa2ii: Which linux distribution? |
10:10.38 | soa2ii | Gentoo |
10:10.41 | pinotree | ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet |
10:10.49 | pinotree | or ~/.kde4, depending on the distro |
10:10.57 | soa2ii | wtf... the file isn't there any more |
10:11.20 | pinotree | Debian-user: right click on the desktop â desktop settings â look |
10:11.31 | gkiagia | make sure you are not searching in root's home |
10:11.40 | soa2ii | oO |
10:11.43 | soa2ii | om |
10:11.45 | soa2ii | g |
10:12.24 | Debian-user | pinotree: Where are those theme copied/installed? |
10:12.38 | Debian-user | pinotree: In /usr/share/kde4/apps ?? |
10:12.43 | pinotree | no. |
10:12.58 | Debian-user | pinotree: It's plasma theme |
10:13.08 | pinotree | i told you above: a simple user cannot write int system locations. |
10:13.09 | Debian-user | pinotree: I want to install manually. |
10:13.27 | gkiagia | user data always goes to ~/.kde/share |
10:13.42 | pinotree | use plasmapkg |
10:14.42 | Debian-user | gkiagia: Yes, got here: .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme |
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10:15.29 | Debian-user | Also got here: /usr/share/kde4/apps/desktoptheme |
10:15.39 | pinotree | Debian-user: <pinotree> use plasmapkg |
10:15.46 | pinotree | it is a command |
10:16.49 | Debian-user | man plasmapkg : No manual entry for plasmapkg |
10:17.07 | pinotree | --help is still there |
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10:18.37 | Debian-user | Ok |
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10:43.12 | mauri | my amule has download bandwith set to 36.... there is not possible to enance it...it remains always set to 36 |
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10:45.08 | Torch | mauri: quick googling seems to suggest amule is a wxwidgets app. how is it then related to kde? |
10:46.22 | pinotree | Torch: correct |
10:49.29 | mauri | Torch: i not able to givew te maximum bandwidth |
10:49.42 | Torch | mauri: wrong channel to ask that. |
10:50.20 | mauri | Torch: soyy, do you know if is there a dedicated channel for amule? |
10:50.29 | Torch | mauri: no |
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10:52.26 | shadeslayer | mauri: there is, #amule |
10:52.46 | mauri | shadeslayer: tnk i have found it just now |
10:52.54 | shadeslayer | :) |
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11:21.52 | bicyclerepairman | Can I get kmix to let me turn bass down and treble up? |
11:22.34 | Torch | bicyclerepairman: it's a mixer, not an EQ... |
11:23.02 | bicyclerepairman | aha! |
11:23.15 | bicyclerepairman | I need an EQ. is there a good one for KDE? |
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11:31.14 | muep__ | would like an equalizer for pulseaudio |
11:33.11 | shadeslayer | muep__: alsamixer in a console? |
11:33.41 | muep__ | what would that accomplish? |
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11:33.54 | shadeslayer | muep__: equliaser for PA |
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11:34.07 | muep__ | kmix is a quite fine interface for the alsa mixers |
11:34.17 | muep__ | though it seems to ignore the one offered by pulse |
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11:34.58 | muep__ | which is a bit annoying, since the pulse one has a lot wider range of volumes |
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11:38.43 | jospoortvliet | anyone bored and interesting in doing some helping out by reading and commenting on an upcoming dot article? join #kde-promo for a sec and help out! |
11:38.56 | jospoortvliet | a request for review for the following articles: |
11:39.03 | jospoortvliet | http://dot.kde.org/2009/10/30/nluug-conference-open-web |
11:39.10 | jospoortvliet | http://dot.kde.org/2009/11/01/walled-gardens-semantic-data-and-open-web-interview-steven-pemberton |
11:39.15 | jospoortvliet | any comments welcome. |
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11:45.49 | shadeslayer | jospoortvliet: You are not authorized to access this page. |
11:45.58 | shadeslayer | on the 2nd link |
11:46.10 | jospoortvliet | srry fixed in a sec |
11:46.29 | jospoortvliet | done |
11:46.34 | jospoortvliet | shadeslayer: should work now |
11:46.42 | jospoortvliet | tnx for taking time to have a look! |
11:46.44 | shadeslayer | yeah :) |
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11:46.58 | ceu | hi |
11:47.03 | jospoortvliet | any comments are welcome, really, it's no rocket science to review an article... |
11:47.04 | shadeslayer | jospoortvliet: the first pic on the first link doesnt work |
11:47.38 | jospoortvliet | shadeslayer: darn copy-pasting. fixed. |
11:47.53 | spatula | Hi. Is there a command-line method for changing a KDE theme? (I want a high contrast theme and cannot see using the current theme to do this via the GUI.) |
11:48.59 | jospoortvliet | spatula: probably by changing the appropriate config files. Most likely to be found in ~/.kde/share/config |
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11:50.15 | spatula | Okay, I'll take a look. |
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11:51.37 | spatula | Okay, there's quite a few files in there. Any hints as to which ones I should look for? |
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11:55.34 | jospoortvliet | spatula: sorry, no idea... |
11:56.13 | spatula | Bummer. |
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12:13.07 | renard | Hello. I got this error (http://dpaste.com/114959/) when trying to compile kdebase-workspace 4.3.2... Anyone can help me ? Found nothing in google.. kdesupport, kdelibs, kdepillibs, kdebase and kdebase-runtime went fine. |
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12:14.29 | neverendingo | spatula: it is in kdeglobals, section "General" -> widgetStyle |
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12:22.45 | renard | Ok, I found it. I was missing kdelibs-experimental... But anyone can explain me what it is ? |
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12:47.38 | GNU\colossus | how can I add a SSL/TLS CA root cert so that all of my KDE4 applications accepts certificates signed by that CA as valid? |
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13:03.52 | bicyclerepairman | down the left hand side of dolphin there's a box with some often used locations. How do I set this up and add other directories there? |
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13:06.28 | jospoortvliet | bicyclerepairman: drag and drop folders or use right mouse button on the items. |
13:06.59 | bicyclerepairman | Oh yeah! |
13:07.03 | bicyclerepairman | that's handy |
13:07.07 | jospoortvliet | bicyclerepairman: it's shared between all KDE apps (but you can also make items private for a certain app, eg have kate show your documents but digikam not) |
13:07.08 | bicyclerepairman | I'm loving KDE 4. |
13:07.16 | jospoortvliet | bicyclerepairman: :D |
13:07.36 | bicyclerepairman | dramatic applause and cheers to the creators! |
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13:09.39 | bicyclerepairman | and dolphin had tabbed browsing! wow! |
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13:20.11 | linopolus | Hi |
13:20.23 | linopolus | Whats the kde app to rip audio cds? |
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13:22.59 | Fri13 | linopolus: you can do it with Dolphin |
13:23.10 | Fri13 | linopolus: just type "audiocd:/" to address |
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13:23.51 | linopolus | ah thx |
13:23.54 | Fri13 | select the folder by the format you want and copy files to place where you want them. |
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13:48.09 | nomopofomo | wondering if you guys were aware that when i use the google shortcut, google gives an error |
13:48.18 | nomopofomo | in konqueror |
13:48.32 | mondini | -deskto |
13:49.00 | mondini | sorry, krunner disappeared |
13:49.57 | mondini | does anyone know how to make plasma-desktop autostart again at login? |
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13:50.10 | mondini | I'm running kde trunk |
13:50.28 | mondini | and I have to do it everytime |
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14:05.50 | uffo | can anyone knows how to avoid Kopete to load everytime that akonadi thing? |
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14:06.59 | RichiH | hmm |
14:07.15 | RichiH | is there _any_ way to selectively disable plugins? |
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14:08.01 | RichiH | i want to nuke flash in konqui, but not java. of course, i could create a new konqui-specific directory and soft-link accordingly, but... |
14:08.19 | mnajib | Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http' |
14:08.21 | RichiH | and no, i do not want to disable flash on all browsers, just on my main one |
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14:12.58 | breakerfall | hi |
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14:13.30 | breakerfall | I'm having trouble enabling compositing in kde 4.3.2 on my desktop machine. Compositing is working fine (in Xfce4) on the same machine. |
14:13.40 | breakerfall | any ideas where I can start trying to debug the problem? |
14:13.51 | breakerfall | I have the same version of kde on my laptop, with the same xorg config |
14:13.53 | breakerfall | and it works great |
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14:15.31 | breakerfall | the settings window tells me "Compositing is disabled" |
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14:15.40 | breakerfall | but it shouldn't be (and isn't when I run xfce) |
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14:19.42 | uffo | can anyone knows how to avoid Kopete to load everytime that akonadi thing?? |
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14:21.33 | pano | hi |
14:21.41 | pano | are there any news about the KDE git movement= |
14:21.42 | pano | ? |
14:22.13 | EvilGuru | Are there any plans to make spell-checking in Kate more intelligent? So using knowledge of the file type to avoid false positives |
14:22.23 | Sho_ | pano: subscribe to the buildsystem ml and read the archive, all the news will be there |
14:22.41 | Sho_ | short answer: no real news, going slowly |
14:23.00 | EvilGuru | For example, in .html files all of the tags and attributes can be ignored and in .c files only comments need to be checked |
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14:23.05 | pano | Sho_: ok, thanks^^ |
14:23.14 | Sho_ | err not buildsystem list |
14:23.18 | Sho_ | the scm list of course |
14:23.30 | Sho_ | isn't fully awake yet |
14:23.40 | Sho_ | pano: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-scm-interest |
14:23.53 | pano | ah thanks :-D |
14:24.25 | Sho_ | the last real thing that happened was that on GCDS there was a BoF where many TODO items etc. were identified |
14:24.38 | Sho_ | and then after GCDS, not much has happened on those TODOs afaik ... |
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14:28.33 | pano | Sho_: I found this "KDE moving to Git plan" http://docs.google.com/View?id=dwzwpd4_2d33z8qfz the status column seems pretty "empty"^^ |
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14:30.57 | uffo | can anyone knows how to avoid Kopete to load everytime that akonadi thing?? What developer do with akonadi in future (kde 4.4, 4.5) ? do they force to use akonadi in future releases or can be plain text used too optionally ? |
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14:37.24 | ealexp | hello |
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14:37.56 | ealexp | can I uninstall desktop effects in KDE ? |
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14:40.17 | DexterF | hi |
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14:40.34 | DexterF | plasma-desktop is eating 70% CPU, just bootet, nothing running. how do I spot the culprit? |
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14:41.00 | georgious | hey guys |
14:41.08 | georgious | I've just installed karmic koala |
14:41.21 | georgious | but I have accidentally misplaced the.. task bar |
14:41.28 | georgious | and I dunno how do get it back to normal |
14:41.36 | georgious | I wil make a screenshot |
14:41.44 | breakerfall | Does anybody have any idea why KDE is showing "compositing is disabled" in the desktop effects settings? Note that if I logout and log into Xfce, compositing works fine |
14:42.16 | breakerfall | georgious, go into the widgets selection window and disable the task bar. The re-create it. |
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14:43.10 | breakerfall | I have an Nvidia card, by the way - with working compositing, but on this fresh install of KDE, it's disabled and will not let me start it. |
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14:43.32 | Debian-user | Is anyone here ? |
14:43.38 | breakerfall | when I attempt to "enable desktop effects", KDE spits the following error: Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type. |
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14:44.17 | georgious | breakerfall: thanks, that worked |
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14:44.39 | Debian-user | What's the pdf viewer for kde? Is it kpdf ? |
14:44.44 | bicyclerepairman | DexterF: see if X is using the right driver. If you have a decent GPU then it will offload that stuff from the CPU. |
14:44.58 | bicyclerepairman | Debian-user: it was in KDE3. |
14:45.05 | bicyclerepairman | now I can't remember what it's called. |
14:46.03 | DexterF | bicyclerepairman: RSSNow: guilty. |
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14:46.21 | bicyclerepairman | DexterF: what does that mean? |
14:46.26 | DexterF | removed, it, 0.5 load |
14:46.45 | DexterF | well. |
14:47.00 | bicyclerepairman | I'm not following... |
14:47.05 | icwiener | Debian-user: In KDE4 it is Okular. |
14:47.22 | DexterF | rssnow was the plasmoid that caused the cpu load of 70%. I removed it, now cpu load is normal. |
14:47.25 | bicyclerepairman | that's it, okular. I'll go ahead and install it now. |
14:47.42 | breakerfall | really, does nobody have any idea how I can get compositing working? |
14:47.45 | bicyclerepairman | Ah, I see! |
14:47.58 | bicyclerepairman | breakerfall: depends on your distro |
14:48.07 | Debian-user | icwiener: Yes,but it's a image viewer. |
14:48.17 | pinotree | icwiener: no |
14:48.37 | bicyclerepairman | if I understand correctly, you need DRI to use compositing |
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14:49.12 | pinotree | icwiener: (ops, sorry) |
14:49.18 | pinotree | Debian-user: no, it is the document viewer |
14:49.31 | breakerfall | bicyclerepairman, why does it depend on the distro? |
14:49.47 | breakerfall | bicyclerepairman, I have compositing working on other desktop environments, but KDE won't let me enable it |
14:50.16 | bicyclerepairman | is that so |
14:50.24 | bicyclerepairman | are you on gentoo? |
14:50.28 | breakerfall | yes indeedy |
14:50.34 | bicyclerepairman | then you need the xcomposite use flag |
14:50.43 | bicyclerepairman | I had this problem |
14:50.47 | breakerfall | o.O |
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14:50.59 | bicyclerepairman | I believe so, anyway... |
14:51.06 | breakerfall | bicyclerepairman, I'll check now, thanks |
14:51.25 | breakerfall | wonder why it wouldn't have it enabled by default and just allow the option to be set in settings? |
14:51.34 | breakerfall | if I'm going to have to compile kde again... :( |
14:51.54 | bicyclerepairman | that sucks. |
14:52.05 | bicyclerepairman | I've compiled it like four times now |
14:52.41 | bicyclerepairman | but before you do, |
14:52.57 | bicyclerepairman | see if there's anything else you want to enable while you're at it. |
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14:53.23 | breakerfall | bicyclerepairman, just double checked my make.conf and I already have that use flag in there |
14:53.29 | breakerfall | so I don't think that's the issue |
14:53.38 | bicyclerepairman | let me check my flags. |
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14:54.10 | bicyclerepairman | here are my X/qt/video related flags. |
14:54.20 | bicyclerepairman | USE="kde qt3 qt3support qt4 mng -gnome \ |
14:54.21 | bicyclerepairman | <PROTECTED> |
14:54.23 | bicyclerepairman | <PROTECTED> |
14:54.35 | bicyclerepairman | do you have all of them? |
14:54.46 | breakerfall | yep |
14:54.51 | breakerfall | and then some |
14:55.10 | breakerfall | like I said, compositing works fine in XFCE... but I tested KDE4 on my laptop and it works nicely |
14:55.30 | breakerfall | so I installed it on my desktop, but compositing doesn't work. I can logout and back in to xfce, it works. |
14:55.50 | bicyclerepairman | that's nuts! |
14:55.57 | bicyclerepairman | I really don't know the answer... |
14:56.11 | bicyclerepairman | but |
14:56.21 | bicyclerepairman | are you using the latest version in portage? |
14:56.26 | breakerfall | 4.3.2 |
14:56.42 | bicyclerepairman | same as me... |
14:57.07 | breakerfall | I've noticed aswell, window placement is a bit bizarre (I'm on a dual screen setup) |
14:57.45 | bicyclerepairman | twinview or xinerama? |
14:58.06 | breakerfall | twinview |
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14:58.33 | breakerfall | again, the placement is fine in xfce, but it's a little weird in kde - kwin handles that, right? |
14:58.42 | bicyclerepairman | I think so. |
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14:59.06 | breakerfall | Kd |
14:59.29 | breakerfall | I'd try dropping back to a previous nvidia driver, but the version of xorg I have installed is dependent on it :/ |
15:00.00 | bicyclerepairman | wow! |
15:00.19 | bicyclerepairman | you are using the binary bloblet, not the opensource one, right? |
15:00.27 | breakerfall | yep |
15:00.37 | bicyclerepairman | you could ask in #gentoo-kde... |
15:00.42 | breakerfall | I'm a tad fedup of portage to be honest |
15:00.44 | bicyclerepairman | about the compositing... |
15:00.51 | breakerfall | good point |
15:00.54 | bicyclerepairman | I know what you mean |
15:01.06 | DexterF | can I make the control bar "locked" like in kde3? I'd like to set the borders for the plasmoids myself |
15:01.12 | breakerfall | if this doesn't sort it, I'm calling it a day and moving to Arch. It's been 6+ years now, I'm tired :( |
15:01.33 | bicyclerepairman | DexterF: yes. |
15:01.48 | DexterF | bicyclerepairman: well - how? |
15:01.51 | bicyclerepairman | right click on desktop and choose "lock widgets"or something |
15:01.58 | DexterF | lemme try... |
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15:02.18 | bicyclerepairman | breakerfall: have you used arch before? |
15:02.32 | bicyclerepairman | what's it like? |
15:02.44 | bicyclerepairman | I've heard of several gentooers moving to arch |
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15:03.04 | breakerfall | bicyclerepairman, I have |
15:03.08 | breakerfall | it's on my laptop |
15:03.16 | breakerfall | ah the joys of binary packages :p |
15:03.36 | bicyclerepairman | I don't know about that... |
15:03.45 | breakerfall | I only stuck with gentoo as long as I did, because I like IT, not the package management... I like how it does things, how it's all layed out |
15:03.47 | bicyclerepairman | I like to have them compiled and tuned etc etc |
15:04.02 | breakerfall | you really believe there's any difference in speed? :D |
15:04.13 | breakerfall | there used to be, but no longer, trust me. |
15:04.37 | bicyclerepairman | there is on my other computer :) |
15:04.39 | breakerfall | I would rather install firefox and open office in 2 minutes, than spend much longer waiting for them to compile. There's no speed benefit to doing that anymore |
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15:05.09 | breakerfall | the only real benefit of source package management is, like gentoo, use flags. Defining dependents, etc |
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15:05.46 | DexterF | is there a "seperator" widget so I can confine the amoutn of space a plasmoid can take? |
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15:06.19 | Suraj | hello |
15:06.21 | bicyclerepairman | DexterF: on the panel you mean? |
15:06.28 | DexterF | bicyclerepairman: yes |
15:06.29 | sreich | DexterF: in 4.3 you can add a spacer |
15:06.37 | pierreth | do you know a cli to do a logout? |
15:06.39 | DexterF | sreich: can't find that. |
15:06.59 | DexterF | kde 4.3.2 |
15:07.05 | sreich | "Panel Spacer" |
15:07.24 | Kefoo | Hi all. I'm running 4.3.2 on Debian. I don't have the screensaver set to autostart, yet it still does, and it's keeping the display from going into power save. Any ideas? |
15:07.28 | sreich | you can also go to the panel settings configuration and click "Add Spacer" |
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15:11.44 | DexterF | sreich: that's another plasmoid? happen to know if that's a standard one? don't see it here. |
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15:21.15 | sreich | DexterF: dunno. but did you find the add spacer option on the panel config? |
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15:22.13 | DexterF | sreich: duh. yes, now. it'S not in the context menu where I expected it. |
15:22.15 | DexterF | wonder why. |
15:22.29 | sreich | why would it be in the context menu? |
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15:22.48 | DexterF | why not? |
15:22.52 | DexterF | uh.. what .. |
15:23.02 | sreich | why not isn't a justification |
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15:23.06 | DexterF | how do I conf itds width?! |
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15:23.25 | sreich | in the panel configuration.. |
15:23.32 | DexterF | weeps silently |
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15:23.40 | sreich | DexterF: settle down.. |
15:23.51 | sreich | if you find the outer edges of the spacer you can see it changes to a resize cursor |
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15:25.35 | uffo | an anyone knows how to avoid Kopete to load everytime that akonadi thing?? What developer do with akonadi in future (kde 4.4, 4.5) ? do they force to use akonadi in future releases or can be plain text used too optionally ? |
15:25.39 | DexterF | yes, and then I moved it left of the window list but it wouldnt let me place it there. |
15:25.47 | DexterF | ok. i gotta run, fumble some more with it later |
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15:26.42 | Suraj | HELLO |
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15:27.18 | liveuser | hello |
15:29.21 | bicyclerepairman | Suraj: HELLO!! |
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15:31.20 | liveuser | mokoloko |
15:31.56 | mokoloko | wut? |
15:31.57 | liveuser | naina ka man kah raha hai ki missing hi sahi par isko karke dakh |
15:32.25 | liveuser | suraj |
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15:32.42 | mokoloko | liveuser: wtf? :D |
15:33.01 | liveuser | suraj |
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15:34.44 | Suraj | hello |
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15:40.15 | soulchild | Any news on kde ? |
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15:41.24 | sreich | news? |
15:42.40 | uffo | News like how to avoid Kopete to load everytime that akonadi thing or how to disable folder preview plasmoid? |
15:43.16 | sreich | uffo: you can disable the folderview widget's preview in it's settings dialog.. |
15:43.52 | sreich | just as you can with dolphin |
15:44.24 | uffo | sreich: where i have searched everywhere but that folder preview is really annoyng |
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15:46.51 | uffo | sreich: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Screenshot_of_KDE_4.3.png that annoyng thing that pops up on folders |
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15:47.27 | sreich | oh |
15:47.33 | sreich | don't think it can be disabled yet |
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16:27.15 | litb | hello all |
16:27.21 | litb | is there a raining effect for kwin? |
16:27.28 | litb | i loved that one with compiz <3 |
16:27.33 | sreich | no |
16:27.36 | sreich | yeah, me too ;) |
16:27.43 | sreich | I think there's only snow |
16:27.46 | litb | :( |
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16:28.26 | litb | alright. if the slow would at least fall onto me and get stuck on the screen a bit it would be fun. but it only falls down :O |
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16:28.30 | litb | lulz |
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17:14.58 | _Pug_ | hi, can anybody tell me why kde always starts kmail at startup as soon as any groupware connection is configured ? |
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17:21.53 | nomopofomo | Trying to figure out how to automount an NTFS volume in KDE4, any ideas? |
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17:26.50 | junkDawgie | nomopofomo: install the Device Manager plasmoid, and use it instead of Device Notifier. |
17:28.13 | nomopofomo | junkDawgie: that plasmoid will let me automount? |
17:28.26 | nomopofomo | and by automount i mean the partition will be usable without me having to click on it |
17:28.59 | junkDawgie | it should mount the volume with whatever your default permissions for ntfs are... usually read-only |
17:29.18 | junkDawgie | yes, it will mount automagically |
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17:30.53 | nomopofomo | sounds to me like it's not what i'm looking for |
17:31.19 | junkDawgie | usb drive? |
17:31.32 | sreich | nomopofomo: why not? |
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17:32.24 | nomopofomo | sreich: i'm trying to get the same functionality of the drive being ready at login. i.e. the program will edit fstab for me |
17:32.47 | nomopofomo | i thought junkDawgie was being sarcastic |
17:32.55 | nomopofomo | guess not? |
17:33.14 | sreich | why would he be sarcastic about that? |
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17:34.31 | nomopofomo | automagic |
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17:34.43 | sreich | meh, it's a pretty common term |
17:35.39 | nomopofomo | so this plasmoid will edit the fstab? |
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17:37.09 | Half-Left | no |
17:39.03 | nomopofomo | how else can it automount? |
17:39.45 | Half-Left | It mounts when you click the device |
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17:40.01 | junkDawgie | nomopofomo: if you want a permanent fstab entry and don't want to manually edit, you could use a graphical tool called ntfs-config (as root) if your distro has it. |
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17:40.31 | nomopofomo | it does but do you want to hear something absurd? i'm using kde and i don't want to mix with gtk |
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17:41.04 | paul424 | what is the defualt kde4 console ? the Konsole does not works |
17:41.39 | troy | paul424: "konsole" is the kde default - and I've never seen a system where it didn't work - what's happening? |
17:42.23 | paul424 | ohh ok small letters |
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18:31.46 | wils | I'd like a link on my desktop that opens konsole up. The prompt I'm given there I want to be in a particular directory. |
18:31.51 | wils | do you think it can be done? |
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18:33.25 | sreich | wils: what directory is that? |
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18:34.59 | wils | in /home/sam/dev/ |
18:35.20 | sreich | sure |
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18:35.28 | sreich | konsole -e cd ~/dev |
18:35.45 | pinotree | konsole --workdir ~/dev ;) |
18:36.00 | sreich | pft, whatever |
18:36.02 | sreich | :p |
18:36.12 | pinotree | patpats sreich |
18:36.24 | sreich | :) |
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18:38.11 | Michou | Salut tout le monde |
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18:38.49 | Michou | A la connexion, plasma n'était pas démarré / avait (déjà ) planté (?) |
18:39.24 | Michou | Hello there |
18:39.30 | sreich | hi :) |
18:39.46 | Michou | Does someone know where are the kde / plasma log files ? |
18:40.26 | pinotree | ~/.xsession-errors |
18:40.26 | apt | methinks /.xsession-errors is quite common |
18:40.34 | Michou | ty |
18:40.52 | Michou | :D |
18:40.54 | Michou | bye |
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18:54.12 | kavurt | hi guys. I have two kubuntu computers. when i plug in a pen drive, one of them mounts it automatically, the other doesn't. And the one which automatically mounts, doesn't allow me to unmount it using GUI. I can unmount using konsole. The one doesn't mount automatically allows to unmount using GUI. what should I do? why do they behave differently? |
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19:06.36 | rogersman1 | hi...could someone please tell me if it possible to autostart a torrent download? Cant i just specify a default download directory and be done with the confirmation box? thanx |
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19:08.19 | nomopofomo | this is terrible! :( i can't figure out how to install this stupid plasmoid... i can make it fine... installs fine... but how do i use it? |
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19:10.58 | Torch | rogersman1: ktorrent --help |
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19:13.12 | ealexp | clear |
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19:14.08 | rogersman1 | Torch: sorry what i mean is, for example, click "download torrent" from mininova -> ktorrent starts downloading...no confirmations... |
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19:14.34 | rogersman1 | "ktorrent --silent" does not product this behaviour for me |
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19:17.12 | ceu | dolphin doesn't seem to use inotify when the actual directory is a symbolic link |
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19:20.37 | Torch | rogersman1: strange. it does for me. |
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19:25.42 | rogersman1 | oh...bugger...well at least I know what to do now...time for some creative googling....cheers Torch |
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20:03.47 | Nakkel | Where can I find information about creating custom protocol handlers for KDE/Konqueror? IIRC you could create a .desktop file to ~/.kde/share/services in KDE3 but its all fuzzy as I whacked around that area years ago :P |
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20:29.28 | rogersman1 | Can someone please tell me how to bind extra keys for 5-button mice in kde? thanx |
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20:45.09 | rogersman1 | anyone? |
20:46.45 | PhrkOnLsh | rogersman1: man xmodmap |
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20:54.03 | rogersman1 | PhrkOnLsh: hmm, i was hoping to avoid more xorg modding as firefox already registers the extra buttons, oh well, cheers anyway |
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21:01.25 | vadi | Why some of my konsole repeat the pressed key more slower than other konsole? |
21:01.58 | vadi | It should use the same configuration and so use the same delay to repeat key pressed |
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21:16.15 | k4 | hello |
21:16.27 | k4 | can someone point me how to enable plasma netbook shell ? |
21:16.32 | k4 | i cant find any option |
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21:19.02 | cb400f | there's supposed to be systemsettings module in 4.4 |
21:21.03 | cb400f | http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Trying_the_netbook_project_made_ |
21:21.08 | cb400f | k4: ^ |
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22:04.19 | tominglis | i've got kde 4.3.2 on kubuntu 9.10 - i am only able to run kgpg as root, is there something wrong? |
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22:12.17 | Torch | tominglis: obviously yes |
22:12.41 | tominglis | Torch: :) do you know what it could be? |
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22:13.05 | Torch | tominglis: my crystal ball is in the shop this week ;-) pastebin the output when you run it as user from a shell. |
22:14.36 | tominglis | it gives no output |
22:14.49 | tominglis | tominglis@Achilles:~$ kgpg |
22:15.03 | tominglis | if i try to run it on konsole or yakuake |
22:15.32 | tominglis | but if i click on the icon i get a box in the tray for a few seconds and then nothing loads |
22:15.47 | tominglis | if i do ps -e while the box is there kgpg is one of the processes |
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22:16.39 | shepherd | Is there a direction to view removeable storage? like media:/ |
22:16.59 | tominglis | Torch: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6afd858f |
22:17.11 | Torch | tominglis: sounds bad. in my karmic vm, it starts and runs okay. i don't know what else to say right now... you could strace it but that might get tedious. |
22:17.13 | tominglis | that's what it says in yakuake when i run as sudo, and then the tray icon appears and i can use the applicationa s root |
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22:17.39 | Torch | tominglis: might be a permission problem with one of its config files... |
22:18.55 | Torch | tominglis: what does find $HOME/.kde/ -uid 0 produce? |
22:20.47 | tominglis | Torch: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mf6c2508 |
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22:26.38 | tominglis | Torch: do you have any suggestions? which files should i check the permissions of? |
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22:28.06 | hagabaka | is there a way to let okular save pdf comments that can be displayed in adobe reader? |
22:28.16 | pinotree | nope |
22:28.24 | hagabaka | :( |
22:28.39 | hagabaka | can any other linux program do that? |
22:29.28 | PhrkOnLsh | no |
22:30.06 | hagabaka | adobe website says the pdf file needs to be "enabled" with "Adobe LiveCycle⢠enterprise server and design software" |
22:30.46 | pinotree | advertising |
22:31.30 | hagabaka | it also says that needs to be done to "save the PDF file to a local hard drive" too...another forum says Okular comments cannot be seen by other PDF readers "unless you print it to PDF", but I did that, and they're still not showing |
22:32.02 | pinotree | that other forum is wrong too, we cannot print user-made annotations |
22:33.16 | hagabaka | so are okular comments only viewable in okular? are there any standards for the many other programs that can annotate PDF files? |
22:34.09 | pinotree | okular comments are viewable only in okular because okular (or better, the library okular uses) does not support editing the annotations of the documents |
22:34.27 | pinotree | yes, they are part of the pdf standard |
22:34.33 | pinotree | no, they are not easy to alter |
22:34.40 | hagabaka | oh |
22:35.51 | hagabaka | even adobe reader doesn't let me put comments...it says "document rights" must be enabled, and I probably can't do that |
22:36.11 | pinotree | adobe reader is a reader, not an editor |
22:36.20 | pinotree | you need full acrobat for that |
22:36.25 | hagabaka | it does have the comment toolbar, but it doesn't let me enable it |
22:36.37 | pinotree | (full acrobat = â¬â¬â¬ or $$$) |
22:36.58 | PhrkOnLsh | pinotree: not enough money symbols. It's an adobe product, remember? |
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22:38.25 | ghabit | Hello. Does KDE have browser with webkit? |
22:38.32 | ghabit | Advise me please. |
22:38.41 | alienBOB | Nope |
22:39.22 | ghabit | Any webkit browser on qt4 maybe? |
22:39.34 | hagabaka | konqueror can use webkit, but on my version at least it is still buggier than the "webkit-only" browsers like Arora, Chromium |
22:39.44 | crazy_pete | i never could get webkit to compile, i had to disable it |
22:39.50 | PhrkOnLsh | rekonq |
22:40.19 | crazy_pete | some crap about "don't know how to make 'p'" Obviously a typo in a makefile,. i wonder who let THAT get past release! :) |
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22:40.34 | ghabit | Thanks. |
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22:40.50 | ghabit | Just curious, using konqueror, works good. |
22:40.51 | crazy_pete | s/never could/on 4.5.3 couldn't/ |
22:40.52 | ghabit | ) |
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22:54.48 | ghabit | I have amarok 2.2 crashing at startup, anyone know how to fix it? |
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23:04.26 | harolddong | Can someone tell me how the strigi indexing is actually supposed to work? I'm running with the sesame backend on kubuntu karmic. when I enable indexing it chugs away over and over on th same few folders repeatedly and then disables itself with no erros or anything. It does index some things but not at all. |
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23:17.09 | kolla | http://kolla.no/kde4-plastique.png - what's up with the grouping lines of the "plastique" style? |
23:17.55 | kolla | group borders... whatever one call them |
23:18.54 | Torch | kolla: groupboxes. |
23:19.14 | pinotree | good question, i had that since recently as well |
23:26.11 | kolla | the crystal-SVG icon theme also seems broken |
23:26.39 | Sho_ | fwiw, Plastique is actually part of Qt rather than KDE |
23:27.20 | kolla | ok |
23:30.49 | kolla | not much to be done there |
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23:47.13 | kolla | wonder what the heck's going on here... http://kolla.no/kde4-konq-toolbar-wtf.png |
23:50.39 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: probably a bad config; it's not hurting you though, so I wouldn't go pounding through random things. |
23:55.51 | kolla | http://kolla.no/kde4-konq-vs-old.png |
23:56.04 | kolla | here for some reason there are lines |
23:56.07 | troy | kolla: that looks like a rendering glitch - that icon is supposed to be animated (gear is spinning), but instead of displaying just the first frame, it's displaying them all |
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23:57.18 | kolla | troy: ah, hehe, ofcourse :) |
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23:58.24 | kolla | I need to restart X11 to see if it fixes the font renedering... |
23:58.31 | troy | kolla: and not sure about the second one - I have no line here if I stack the toolbars |
23:59.14 | troy | that reminds me - chrome has a better integrated location bar than konq - sure we have inline search, but you need to know to type gg: first, which isn't exactly obvious |
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