00:00.27 | Theoden | How do I start powerdevil from a commandline. |
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00:05.36 | Theoden | Hello? |
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00:06.49 | Half-Left | Let me get sesame2 up and running |
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00:08.13 | Half-Left | And strigi, my trunk is a bit messy at the moment |
00:08.44 | Half-Left | thanks to billions of rpm deps |
00:09.35 | Half-Left | sun java devel, ahhh good |
00:10.12 | Theoden | Out of 394 users - sure someone could respond to a question ...! |
00:10.28 | Half-Left | Maybe we all don't know |
00:10.43 | sreich | maybe we're all busy. |
00:10.43 | sreich | we do have lives, you know. |
00:10.53 | Theoden | Then at least say that - it's just common courtesy. |
00:11.02 | Half-Left | dbus commands are not a common thing for people to know |
00:11.36 | Theoden | Out of 394 people it's extremely unlikely that no one can at least acknowledge a question. |
00:11.45 | sreich | Theoden: uhm... away from keyboard?? |
00:11.50 | pinotree | Theoden: be patient on irc, usually |
00:11.52 | Theoden | Agreed - my problem exactly. :) |
00:11.55 | sreich | that's what was implied with the "we have lives" |
00:11.58 | Half-Left | If you want instant support, pay me £10 an hour :) |
00:12.25 | Theoden | Ok - I see how it is here. |
00:12.35 | Half-Left | well, it's a £1 a minute at some places :) |
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00:14.07 | sreich | Theoden: it's how it is everywhere. You don't get a response from an e-mail, instantly. If you expect that, you should realize the truth... |
00:17.59 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: any tips on how to configure strigi (daemon.conf) so it will include "*.txt" files on the indexing? |
00:18.15 | Kenjiro | I try using strigiclient to insert that filter, but it doesn't want to :( |
00:18.35 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: I'm trying to get mine built at the moment |
00:18.48 | Half-Left | it should index all files |
00:18.52 | Kenjiro | by the way, I sent all my "file index" (strigi) to /dev/null and told strigi to re-index everything, just to be sure it will work this time |
00:18.55 | Half-Left | You can see it indexing them |
00:19.05 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: or should see ;) |
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00:20.16 | Half-Left | should is the word :p |
00:20.22 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: you mean "you can see" by firing up strigidaemon on the konsole, right? |
00:20.38 | Half-Left | no, in the systemsettings |
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00:21.21 | Half-Left | I comes up in the systray and if you move over the nepomuk icon, it shows what's being indexed |
00:21.24 | Half-Left | it* |
00:22.32 | Half-Left | When you enable Strigi, you should see this icon in the systray |
00:22.38 | _errordeveloper | i'm having some problems with mplayer/smplayer |
00:23.06 | _errordeveloper | when toggling fuulscreen you can see the bubly background that kdm sets .. |
00:24.13 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: when I do that I get a "Strigi service failed to initialize, most likely due to an instalation problem" on systemsettings |
00:24.39 | Half-Left | Then that's why it's not indexing :p |
00:25.01 | Kenjiro | no, it is indexing |
00:25.05 | Half-Left | as it says, you have a installing issue |
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00:25.14 | Half-Left | installation* |
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00:28.34 | tartax | hey, im unable to add "remote resources" to my calender, the option simply does not appear when i add new resources... is there something i need to install? |
00:28.52 | Kenjiro | well... I will check this later |
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00:31.37 | Raydiation | hi is dolphin working under windows too? |
00:31.51 | Raydiation | i cant work with the default crap, i need tabs |
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00:33.59 | brmassa | guys, is there any plan/roadmap to port Konqueror to Webkit? its an old discussion, i just want to know the current position... |
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00:38.07 | Miesco | What app in KDE4 do I use to setup printers? |
00:38.26 | Erthe | System Settings -> Printer Configuration |
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00:42.36 | Theoden | lol - thatnks for the help guys. :/ |
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00:44.44 | Erthe | brmassa: I have a feeling the KDE 4.x series won't see Webkit in Konqueror |
00:44.48 | Miesco | Erthe: There is no 'Printer Configuration'! |
00:45.38 | Erthe | Uh, then I'm afraid I'm at a loss. |
00:45.55 | Erthe | Should be in the General tab under Computer Administration |
00:46.11 | Erthe | http://imagebin.ca/view/4syKys.html |
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00:47.04 | Miesco | I did emerge printer-applet |
00:48.08 | reavertm | you need system-config-printer-kde |
00:48.45 | Miesco | k |
00:49.58 | brmassa | Erthe: hmmm thanks. its too bad. i was hoping the konq team would focus on other tasks than writting a html engine... |
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00:51.03 | Erthe | Well, the WebKitPart is in development. |
00:51.54 | Erthe | It's likely to end up being an engine (maybe the default) but KHTML is good for about 90% of all the sites I visit on a daily basis. |
00:53.02 | Erthe | Plus, with the influence of KHTML on WebKit, KHTML is very nice. |
00:55.20 | Rasi | khtml does not have any influence on webkit anymore |
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00:56.54 | brmassa | Erthe: well... Google sites (gmail, wave, calendar), Facebook and other JS-based all complain about KHTML. |
00:57.48 | brmassa | Erthe: Webkit started as a fork of KHTML, but now its far superior. so there is not much point on continue developing... |
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01:23.10 | Gratz474 | any of you here big kate users? |
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01:25.18 | Erthe | I love Kate. |
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01:25.29 | Erthe | But I don't use nearly as much of it as I probably could. |
01:25.47 | Erthe | Depends on what I'm working on I guess. |
01:26.17 | Erthe | Kate is fantastic for shell scripting, HTML, scripting languages. |
01:26.24 | brmassa | Gratz474: i am. i use it everyday for PHP and Lua development |
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01:26.31 | Erthe | Anything I have to compile to distribute, I use Eclipse. |
01:26.48 | brmassa | Gratz474: why? |
01:26.49 | Erthe | brmassa: Lua, really? :D |
01:27.10 | Erthe | What do you use Lua for? |
01:27.26 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. the current syntax highlight specification on Kate is mine. |
01:28.17 | brmassa | Erthe: well... generic stuff: since i HATE shell/bash, i use to write linux scripts in lua. |
01:28.32 | Erthe | Ah, I typically use PHP for that nowadays. |
01:28.39 | brmassa | Erthe: but now im developing an entire CMS (site builder) using it. its getting great. |
01:28.52 | Erthe | You're building a CMS in Lua? |
01:30.11 | brmassa | Erthe: i use PHP everyday. but its a quite messy language. no function naming standards, slow in most operations compared to others, the script code is always ugly.... |
01:31.01 | Erthe | I have about 30 classes I created so I could construct shell scripts quickly. |
01:31.10 | Erthe | <-- kind of manic about control |
01:31.11 | Erthe | :D |
01:33.20 | brmassa | Erthe: bash code is generally too much compact. its hard to read and understand another guy's code. and its easy to write something that does... nothing. or something wrong |
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01:34.12 | Erthe | You can make any code readable, if you build yourself a sane library for how you like to write shell scripts. |
01:34.45 | Erthe | I want an ECMAScript shell. |
01:35.33 | brmassa | Erthe: Lua and JavaScript/ecma has a lot in common. |
01:36.54 | brmassa | Erthe: and there is one big advantage in favor of Lua: speed. its no accident that Lua is the De Facto standard on gamming industry. they need speed from anywhere they can get. |
01:36.54 | Erthe | Lua != OO |
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01:38.42 | brmassa | Erthe: Lua does not REQUIRE you to write OO programs. but it can simulate it nicely. Only really complex OO things you might not create an alternative solution on Lua. |
01:39.11 | Erthe | Can it converse with a database? |
01:39.50 | brmassa | Erthe: search for LuaSQL plugin/module. i use it a lot since its a requirement for my CMS... |
01:40.26 | brmassa | what i still dont know is the reason behind Gratz474 question... |
01:41.05 | Erthe | That's interesting. |
01:41.50 | Erthe | I've thought of learning a bit about Python too. |
01:42.58 | brmassa | Erthe: well, just anote... im not here to evangelize about Lua. |
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01:44.02 | Erthe | It's all good, people should talk about the things they enjoy. |
01:44.51 | Erthe | Is the GC good for Lua? |
01:44.56 | brmassa | Erthe: Python is a great language. Far better than PHP and far faster than Ruby. But Python is not better than Lua at least in one aspect: "embeddable" (i dont know how to write it). Lua is designed to be called inside another program. So it would be natural to see it on KDE applications for example. |
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01:45.10 | brmassa | Erthe: GC? |
01:45.47 | Erthe | Garbage collection. |
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01:47.15 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. top notch. you can let it work automatically 99% of the time. If you want to create complex tricks you might do some small work mannually. |
01:47.45 | Erthe | That's important. |
01:48.15 | brmassa | Erthe: and the brand new JIT compiler (2.0 beta) is simply amazing. it accelerates about 15 TIMES the normal script. |
01:48.17 | Erthe | It's nice to just let the code be expressive and allowing the VM to do the rest of the work on it's own. |
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01:49.56 | Gratz474 | brmassa: it is a very nice editor |
01:49.57 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. Lua is nice because the syntax is really simple. There is no OO concepts, no difference about arrays and lists and dictionaries... but you can simulate ANY of these if you need to. |
01:50.04 | brmassa | Gratz474: i love it. |
01:50.11 | Gratz474 | << uses Python |
01:50.29 | Gratz474 | also dont "mind" php |
01:51.05 | brmassa | Erthe: you might want to take a look on http://shootout.alioth.debian.org its a crazy guy that does constant banchmarks.... Some Lua codes are mine... |
01:51.34 | brmassa | Gratz474: nice. the python support is great. |
01:52.32 | brmassa | Gratz474: dont you miss specific dev tools? coz kate is great for editing, but its not a IDE.... |
01:53.25 | Erthe | I use Eclipse when I'm working. |
01:53.33 | Erthe | I need something robust for that now. |
01:54.04 | Erthe | But I used to use almost only Kate. |
01:54.09 | Gratz474 | brmassa: i would like to start helping dev with kate |
01:54.23 | Erthe | Kate + Konqueror (Split Panes) + KDE 3.4 |
01:54.24 | Gratz474 | also i was a big vim user, so the vim bindings are the best thing ever |
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01:54.50 | Gratz474 | brmassa: 2ndly, i dont really know of any python ide truly |
01:55.00 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. kate is good for small projects. but KDevelop (which uses several parts of Kate code for editing) its more suited for complex projects... |
01:55.09 | Erthe | vi is a required skill for any software developer, imo :D |
01:55.10 | brmassa | Erthe: or eclipse... |
01:55.19 | Gratz474 | code completion really does not work that well for dynamic languages |
01:55.31 | Erthe | Until KDevelop works for me without crashing, I'll be using Eclipse. |
01:55.39 | Gratz474 | alot of object attributes are created at run time |
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01:56.10 | Erthe | It's easier when you know where your starting point is. |
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01:56.16 | Erthe | With PHP, there's no main() |
01:56.29 | Erthe | It's whatever script gets executed first. |
01:56.39 | Erthe | Difficult to predict what will be what. |
01:56.50 | Erthe | Also, PHP has no types. :( |
01:56.54 | Gratz474 | Kate is good |
01:57.00 | Erthe | It is. |
01:57.03 | Gratz474 | needs a few things and it will be a perfect editor |
01:57.08 | Gratz474 | needs a project manager |
01:57.20 | Gratz474 | I see someone made one a few years ago, I might port it over |
01:57.29 | Erthe | Well, for Kate to be what I would want it to be, it needs quite a bit more than that. :D |
01:57.46 | brmassa | Erthe: well... genereally (not the case on Kate), IDEs have Project configuration files, so they can track all files and find extra data for code completion, optimizations.... |
01:58.36 | Erthe | brmassa: Yes, but when using dynamic features of PHP, such as doing $obj->$param, the only way we'll know how such completions could be done from there until it's compiled. |
01:58.57 | Erthe | Dynamic code is frustrating sometimes. |
01:59.29 | Erthe | I really do like KDevelop though, I wish it were more fleshed out. |
01:59.42 | Erthe | (And not crashing on me) |
01:59.43 | brmassa | Erthe: well... sometimes its possible. but yes, since there is no requirement for previous variable declaration, its not always possible to guess... |
01:59.59 | Erthe | brmassa: *nods* |
02:00.18 | Erthe | Java though, you could totally do if the files were open in the editor. |
02:00.19 | Gratz474 | yes code completion for dynamic languages is just not realistic |
02:00.23 | Erthe | Same with C and C++ |
02:00.32 | Gratz474 | i dont mind word completion though |
02:00.37 | brmassa | Erthe: yep too. KDevelop (like some other KDE apps) are rapidly evolving but its not in a state that can be trusted. |
02:00.58 | Gratz474 | c++ and qt is a pleasure to work in brmassa |
02:01.17 | brmassa | work in me? |
02:01.22 | brmassa | :P |
02:01.38 | Gratz474 | qt makes gui development a breeze |
02:02.01 | brmassa | i tried just a few days ago a QT tools called QT Creator. Jezz, its surprisingly good! really good. |
02:02.39 | brmassa | the IDE is compact and does not fell its 500mb gorilla. |
02:03.14 | Gratz474 | qt creator is reallly good |
02:03.18 | Gratz474 | been using it for a while |
02:03.41 | Gratz474 | I really would like to add a few features to kate and i think it would be a very nice eidtor at that point |
02:03.50 | Gratz474 | i got alot of free time next week so i might just do that |
02:04.23 | brmassa | Gratz474: yep. its because i dont have the time to do some stuff myself, but i would love to see some project management on that. |
02:04.38 | Gratz474 | someone already made something for it |
02:04.43 | Gratz474 | maybe just 3-4 hours to add it |
02:04.44 | Gratz474 | not bad |
02:05.11 | brmassa | Gratz474: yep. but its for kde/kate3 afaik |
02:05.22 | Gratz474 | still 4 hours :P |
02:06.09 | brmassa | Gratz474: i use now a "patchy" solution by using the Sessions as different projects |
02:06.24 | Gratz474 | yea |
02:06.28 | Gratz474 | needs project management |
02:06.48 | Gratz474 | its a fantastic editor |
02:06.58 | Gratz474 | looks to be coded very well too |
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02:07.59 | brmassa | Gratz474: yep. another feature i would like is a unification of color schemas accross the languages. |
02:08.15 | brmassa | Gratz474: i reaported it once https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160529 |
02:08.27 | Gratz474 | should not be that difficult either |
02:08.45 | Gratz474 | maybe antoher 4 hours for that |
02:08.45 | Gratz474 | another* |
02:08.46 | brmassa | Gratz474: i use Lua, Python, C and all of them have different color schemes... |
02:09.04 | Gratz474 | do you know QT prettty well? |
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02:09.57 | brmassa | Gratz474: kinda. sometimes i write some Qt tools for myself, like a small and simple Bazaar/GIT GUI... |
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02:10.18 | Gratz474 | brmassa: qt, more so now is fun to dev in |
02:10.55 | brmassa | Gratz474: yep. easy to prototype too... |
02:11.39 | Gratz474 | do you use the vim stuff in kate? |
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02:15.56 | Gratz474 | do you lke snippets brmassa? |
02:15.56 | brmassa | Gratz474: thats generally im ashamed to say no. several people love it, but i dont have the habbit, so its simply weird for me. |
02:16.05 | brmassa | Gratz474: yep. |
02:16.06 | brmassa | Gratz474: tons |
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02:17.06 | brmassa | everytime i reinstall Kubuntu, its a lot of work just to config Kate with code patterns (snippets), basic settings, color schemes... |
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02:18.32 | Erthe | I keep my home directory on a separate partition for this very reason. |
02:18.49 | Erthe | I've had the same home directory contents since 2003. :D |
02:19.05 | Erthe | Well, it's grown, but I've never lost anything. |
02:20.17 | Erthe | But it's 302GB in size. Backing it up is a pain in the behind. |
02:20.21 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. i used to do that. but 1* i kinda like the sensation of somethings fresh. 2* i make too many tests on my pc that breaks stuff... |
02:21.12 | Erthe | I have pictures on my hard drive of ex girlfriends dating back to the late 90s. |
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02:21.35 | Erthe | Though I'd probably run some of them over if I saw them, it's nice to have the memories at hand when necessary. |
02:21.49 | Erthe | 900Mb of JPG files. |
02:21.49 | Erthe | :) |
02:22.13 | Erthe | And let me just say it, Gwenview = Happy |
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02:23.36 | brmassa | Erthe: yep. i like Digikam. i really love that piece of software |
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02:31.37 | Erthe | I actually haven't used that yet. |
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02:45.53 | SJr | Can i have an MPG as a background wallpaper in KDE? |
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02:49.47 | ender2070_ | that would be sick |
02:51.44 | SJr | Yeah that would be pretty cool |
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03:08.14 | Gratz474 | brmassa: vim is the best, i mean the navigation that is |
03:08.53 | brmassa | Gratz474: i might, one day, to try it. possibly on Kate. |
03:15.48 | chronos | hello guys |
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03:21.52 | skullbox | any know how to stop kdm under fedora 12 |
03:22.03 | skullbox | need to install nvidia driver |
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03:38.44 | ajaykumar | hi, it is possible to use KNotification without creating appname.notifyrc within $KDEDIR/share/apps/appname/ ? I tried firing an event using pykde and it did not show up |
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03:47.05 | chronos | I can't change from pt-br to english, and I tried set LC_ALL |
03:47.55 | ajaykumar | is there any simple way to show notifications using plasma ? |
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04:42.40 | paragan | does sonnet supports hunspell? |
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06:21.26 | ritek | Hi there |
06:22.10 | ritek | i'm running Fedora 10 and when I open Dragon Player and play some video/audio file, it sounds horrible, like white-noise sound, any ideas??? |
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07:01.09 | rindolf | Hi all. |
07:01.09 | rindolf | Please help me: I'm on Mandriva Cooker and I had to kill X with KDE 4 (4.4.x-pre-alpha) because the panel and desktop died and now I cannot start any KDE applications, including konqueror, amarok and kopete. What should I do? |
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07:02.14 | rindolf | Last time I tried a reboot solved the problem, but I'd like to avoid it. |
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07:17.41 | qqqqqqqq19 | hi, i have problems build pkde4 complaining about sip: Unable to find file "abstractaudiooutput.sip", but i only have /usr/share/sip/phonon/abstractaudiooutput.sip |
07:17.44 | qqqqqqqq19 | after making softlinks in /usr/share/sip/ and /usr/include/ it compiled though |
07:17.52 | qqqqqqqq19 | is that a bug or did i break something? |
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07:31.02 | rindolf | Found it! Had to kill gam_server |
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08:01.17 | RyanMcCoskrie | Gudday everyone |
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08:10.55 | rindolf | Hi RyanMcCoskrie |
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08:18.10 | papul | how do i add a theme in kde?? |
08:18.22 | papul | i mean how do i install a theme? |
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08:26.17 | papul | how do i install a theme? |
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08:31.11 | papul | hey anyone here?? |
08:31.37 | RyanMcCoskrie | ... I'm thinking about that. |
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08:33.29 | RyanMcCoskrie | papul, Have you got the file? |
08:33.50 | papul | RyanMcCoskrie, yup |
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08:35.29 | RyanMcCoskrie | papul, And unpacked it? If there is a file labeled 'README' or 'INSTALL' consult that. If not check for files labeld either 'Makefile' or 'configure' |
08:35.49 | papul | RyanMcCoskrie, its a theme |
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08:39.34 | RyanMcCoskrie | papul, I've never done this my self you see. I just searched for where the themes are kept on my system and it lkooked like that sort of process would be necessary to install one. |
08:39.54 | papul | RyanMcCoskrie, ok thanks |
08:39.57 | papul | bye |
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08:41.08 | RyanMcCoskrie | papul, bye. |
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09:06.24 | s0x | hey guys ... do you know a possibility to install dashboard widgets using the command line? cause installing any widgets using the gui doesnt work for me. Would be great if anyone could help me |
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09:09.35 | RyanMcCoskrie | s0x, I'm pretty sure that is possible. Do you have the file? If so what extension does it have? |
09:10.25 | s0x | zip |
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09:12.07 | s0x | nevermind, sorry for your time :p found the command line tool plasmapkg ... there you can install it using -t dashboard :) |
09:12.12 | s0x | thank you anyways ... |
09:12.26 | RyanMcCoskrie | s0x, That's okay. |
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09:31.52 | RyanMcCoskrie | Around twenty people came and left without a single message being said. |
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10:04.56 | patkoscsaba | hi all |
10:05.16 | patkoscsaba | how can I set taskbar tooltips to show window previews ? |
10:05.31 | patkoscsaba | I have no compositing support ... if it matters |
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10:36.46 | mycylinder | Hi |
10:37.29 | mycylinder | In dolphin I switched off the menubar. How can I reenable it ? |
10:37.45 | Jucato | Ctrl+M |
10:38.10 | Jucato | mycylinder: Ctrl+M |
10:38.19 | mycylinder | And in the contextthx |
10:39.05 | mycylinder | Jucato, thx |
10:39.37 | mycylinder | in the context menu of a file/folder there is no entry for compressing to zip |
10:39.59 | mycylinder | neither for tgz |
10:40.01 | Jucato | do you have Ark installed? |
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10:40.52 | Jucato | it's usually right-click -> Compress -> Compress to ... I think it needs Ark to be installed |
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10:42.28 | mycylinder | ark is install, but it can only decompress |
10:42.38 | mycylinder | installed |
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11:02.04 | Jucato | mycylinder: tried restarting Dolphin? |
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11:13.08 | mycylinder | Jucato, yes |
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11:15.36 | Jucato | mycylinder: can you check if you have a /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop file? |
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11:18.09 | mycylinder | Jucato, 1 moment |
11:19.00 | Jucato | mycylinder: anyway, if you do find an "ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop" file but still no Compress -> As ZIP archive, try running the command "kbuildsycoca4" then try to check Dolphin again |
11:19.39 | mycylinder | Julian, ok thx |
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11:25.17 | mycylinder | kbuildsycoca4 throws a lot of error messages |
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11:26.48 | Jucato | yeah ignore those errors |
11:26.51 | Jucato | or warnings |
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11:39.43 | wincide | hi all, I have kde 4.3.2 and i cannot find the way to set up the panel with tasks for each desktop, instead of having all the open tasks in the panel at same tame for all the desktops.. |
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11:42.11 | Jucato | wincide: right-click on an empty area in the task bar -> Task Manager Settings. there would be check boxes there |
11:42.47 | Jucato | (it would help if you're not running to many windows) |
11:44.53 | wincide | ok ,i will try :) |
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11:46.08 | kriko | today trunk is frozen - this is alpha or beta? |
11:46.30 | QwertyM | roadmap says beta 1 |
11:46.52 | kriko | omg |
11:46.54 | kriko | gotta try |
11:47.14 | QwertyM | not frozen yet, there's still a few hours I think |
11:47.31 | icwiener | 11:15h to go |
11:48.04 | icwiener | kriko: The beta1 release will be in about a week. |
11:48.11 | kriko | well, anyway opensuse builds will be probably tommorow ready |
11:48.40 | icwiener | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Release_Schedule#November_25th.2C_2009:_Tag_KDE_4.4_Beta_1 |
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12:22.47 | rose-linux | hello everyone |
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12:43.16 | peter-k | hello |
12:43.27 | peter-k | why there are so manny people |
12:43.35 | peter-k | 403 |
12:43.39 | peter-k | god |
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12:52.49 | slacker_nl | hello, each time I upgrade my sound is muted, i've tried kmixctrl -s but it doesn't seem to work. Problem occurs on both debian and ubuntu |
12:53.03 | slacker_nl | uhh, s/upgrade/boot/ |
12:53.28 | annma | you don't upgrade so often that it is a nuisance, do you? |
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12:54.10 | slacker_nl | annma: well, I use debian unstable and ubuntu devel releases, so I upgrade packages frequently |
12:54.27 | slacker_nl | eitherway, problem is with booting :) |
12:54.28 | annma | I don't see why this should happen |
12:54.47 | annma | I compile kdemultimedia every month or so and no such problem |
12:55.35 | slacker_nl | but would you know where to look for my muted sound @boot |
12:56.10 | slacker_nl | mm, i don't have kdemultimedia installed |
12:56.26 | annma | at boot, |
12:56.30 | annma | at boot? |
12:56.44 | annma | what about other mixers, are they also mute? |
12:56.48 | annma | like alsamixer? |
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12:57.56 | slacker_nl | annma: headphone/speaker are also muted |
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12:58.33 | annma | slacker_nl: I am trying to see if it's under KDE |
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12:58.55 | annma | is alsamixer also muted |
12:59.35 | slacker_nl | i suppose not, since both speaker/headpone are muted, i'll check - brb |
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13:08.54 | slacker_nl | i so hate that |
13:09.02 | slacker_nl | now i don't have it |
13:09.09 | slacker_nl | well, will be back |
13:09.37 | annma | sprayed some magic on slacker_nl's computer |
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13:12.16 | slacker_nl | ty :) |
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13:17.09 | Acedip | was plasma.kde.org started recently? lots of things there say "still coming" |
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13:18.17 | annma | just lack of manpower |
13:18.28 | annma | refer to techabse.kde.org to know more |
13:18.32 | annma | about plasma |
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13:52.41 | idyllic | [Kubuntu Karmic 9.10][KDE 4.3.3] Is there a way to set font size in SystemSettings-Appearance-Font to non-integer like 8.5? Thanks |
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13:53.57 | Half-Left | idyllic: Just type "8.5" in the font size box |
13:54.14 | Jucato | was that implemented already? thought it was still being discussed |
13:54.27 | idyllic | Half-Left: doesn't allow me to do so. |
13:54.43 | Half-Left | Well I'm using trunk and it works |
13:55.07 | Torch | idyllic: not in kde 4.3 |
13:55.10 | Torch | idyllic: will be in kde 4.4 |
13:55.20 | Torch | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122618 |
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13:55.40 | Caster | do you mean KDE Software Compliation 4.4? |
13:55.46 | Half-Left | Yeah, you have a box now for manual size input |
13:55.47 | idyllic | Torch: thanks :) Will the condensed font will be available in kde4.4 as well? Dejavusans condensed isn't listed as option |
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13:56.32 | pinotree | idyllic: that has nothing to do with kde |
13:56.35 | Torch | idyllic: kde isn't shipping fonts |
13:56.49 | Torch | idyllic: you can install any font you like in addition to the one your distro provided. |
13:58.16 | idyllic | Torch: yes, i understand, but i installed condensed version of DejavuSans but it isnt listed in options to choose. |
13:59.34 | pinotree | most probably Qt doesn't see/recognize that variant |
13:59.35 | Torch | idyllic: in this case it's probably not installed correctly. |
14:00.28 | idyllic | Torch: well, it is default in my distro anyway. I tried manual install as well. Both no goes. Google gave me a result of QT bug. |
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14:00.46 | Half-Left | builds Virtuoso |
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14:14.12 | icwiener | I have a problem with KMail (KDE 4.3.2). Attachments are not always stored where I want them to be. If I choose "Save Link As..." from the konext menu, the file chooser appears. It just dissappears when pressing OK for a location but the file is not stored. |
14:16.03 | annma | so you do: Save as |
14:16.16 | annma | the KDE file dialog appears |
14:16.32 | annma | links? |
14:16.48 | annma | I am trying with a pic attachment |
14:17.35 | icwiener | links? |
14:17.58 | annma | "Save Link As..." from the you said |
14:18.02 | annma | why save link? |
14:18.26 | icwiener | The menu item is called "Save Link As..." here. |
14:18.32 | annma | I have "Save As..." |
14:18.35 | icwiener | The contect menu for the attachment. |
14:18.37 | annma | what menu item? |
14:18.42 | annma | I don't have that |
14:18.52 | annma | what attachement mime type is it? |
14:18.55 | annma | any? |
14:18.56 | icwiener | If you right-click on the attachment? |
14:18.59 | annma | yes |
14:19.21 | icwiener | It is a TS file (Qt's translation file containing XML). |
14:19.23 | annma | Open, Open With, View, Save As..., |
14:19.39 | annma | try with a pic |
14:19.58 | annma | maybe you have a specific mime type problems on those files |
14:20.07 | icwiener | Hmm, interesting. I have another context menu in another mail with another TS file. |
14:20.25 | annma | then I have Copy, Delete Attachment, Properties |
14:21.21 | annma | same for a .txt attachement |
14:21.47 | annma | Open, Open With, View, Save As..., Copy, Delete Attachment, Properties |
14:21.54 | annma | those are the context actions I get |
14:22.00 | icwiener | I have your menu on all other files just not that one. But I remember having the problem before with other TS files. |
14:22.08 | annma | ah see |
14:22.58 | icwiener | tries another mail app... |
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14:26.08 | annma | try to see in dolphin |
14:26.17 | annma | what context menu there is |
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14:26.37 | annma | I don't think it's a kmail problem but a kde one |
14:27.12 | Half-Left | argh! kdebase bombing out |
14:27.26 | annma | icwiener: the TS files I see have no icons |
14:27.54 | skunkpimp | Hey, how do I go about migrating settings from kde 3.5 to kde 4? copying .kde to kde4 blindly will break things according to google |
14:27.55 | annma | in Dolphin, so they are not associated with a known mime type |
14:28.10 | annma | skunkpimp: what do you want to keep? |
14:28.12 | icwiener | annma: Dolphin offers the "Open in Qt Linguist" action. |
14:28.29 | annma | not here |
14:28.33 | annma | you set it probably |
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14:28.39 | icwiener | No. |
14:29.17 | annma | I only have 'Open with...' and no prog name |
14:29.26 | annma | what icon is there for your TS files? |
14:29.38 | icwiener | annma: The Question mark. |
14:29.41 | skunkpimp | My Konversation has a lot of stuff, and Kopete, I think I could get away with starting everything else fresh |
14:30.12 | annma | my file type dialog sets no prog for it and does not know it |
14:30.21 | Sho_ | skunkpimp: The KDE 4 version of Konversation is fully compatible with config files from the KDE 3 version |
14:30.24 | skunkpimp | Kopete I merely should copy my logs over.. |
14:30.28 | Sho_ | skunkpimp: You can copy that over just fine |
14:31.00 | icwiener | annma: Do you have Linguist installed? |
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14:31.07 | Torch | skunkpimp: generally stuff will not break. the worst to happen is that an app seems to have forgotten some (or in bad cases most or all) settings |
14:31.28 | skunkpimp | Good - I'll back up my current config of course |
14:31.39 | Torch | skunkpimp: yes. always keep backups and just try it out |
14:34.05 | annma | icwiener: yes |
14:34.14 | annma | it comes with Qt which I built |
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14:36.23 | icwiener | Hmm, the file has DOS newlines. Could that cause it? |
14:36.29 | icwiener | annma: Can I send your the file? |
14:36.47 | skunkpimp | thanks |
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14:38.46 | icwiener | annma: Fear not, it's not porn. :D |
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14:45.14 | annma | icwiener: yes |
14:45.18 | annma | but I have some |
14:45.29 | annma | in Qt source |
14:45.38 | icwiener | TS files with DOS newlines? |
14:45.45 | annma | no |
14:46.02 | annma | so it's only this file which behaves strange? |
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14:46.16 | icwiener | Yes, from what I have here. |
14:46.39 | annma | OK let's see it |
14:46.53 | icwiener | annma: Maybe you could check if KMail shows you the right context menu on the file I just sent you. |
14:47.08 | annma | ok |
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14:48.37 | annma | icwiener: same context menu, exactly as above |
14:48.51 | annma | no "Save link as" |
14:49.38 | icwiener | Hmm... |
14:49.55 | icwiener | annma: Ok, thanks for checking. Then my installation is broken in some way. |
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14:52.37 | annma | I can save it OK and it has no linguist attached to be opened in |
14:52.52 | annma | this is 4.3 branch |
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15:05.36 | icwiener | annma: Yes it is 4.3.2 here. I have no idea what's causing it. Maybe some config file screwup. I had one with th systray as well and had to remove its config to work again. |
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15:14.28 | Half-Left | pinotree: Any ideas on this error? kdebase trunk http://pastebin.ca/1686894 |
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15:32.38 | Elmaron | how may I add a samba user without password? |
15:32.54 | Elmaron | (for guest logins so I can assign rights to it what guests are supposed to do and what not) |
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15:33.57 | Elmaron | ah. "Null password" optoin |
15:34.07 | Elmaron | does that automatically allow *any* user to be used for login that has no password? |
15:34.14 | Elmaron | or just the users I added to the users list in the kde settins |
15:35.31 | Elmaron | it still won't let me add the unpassworded user. |
15:35.32 | Elmaron | :< |
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15:39.07 | Elmaron | expert button helped |
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16:10.33 | yao_ziyuan1 | what distro do you use? |
16:11.35 | annma | all |
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17:04.08 | mario | will popup notice in tray ever get speed of transfer (MB/s) back? at least as a config option |
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17:07.31 | szal | plus will the display of these notices ever be fixed? progress bars and text go over the right edge |
17:08.43 | d3x | mario, it has MB/s. just click 'more' |
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17:15.55 | HorizonXP | hey, i'm using kde 4.3.75 (so 4.4), and I'm trying to add a google calendar resource in akonadi. |
17:16.01 | HorizonXP | this seems to work, but only shows my main calendar; i can't choose other calendars. Ideas? |
17:16.13 | HorizonXP | or has this just not been implemented as yet? |
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17:18.55 | mario | d3x: i clicked more, it doesnt have MB/s |
17:19.25 | mario | d3x: it only shows MB/s when i detach it from tray |
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18:05.28 | coz_ | hey guys..on kde + compiz is it possible to have multiple wallpapers ? I havent used kde for some time now to know |
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18:07.32 | tertitten | anyone know of any addin/plugin for Dolphin that will enable reading propreties of media files ? like codec, bitrate, etc etc (when right clicking choosing propreties) |
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18:09.26 | aseigo | tertitten: whatever the strigi indexer can come up with, which iirc is basically "whatever taglib can do".. let me double check |
18:09.44 | tertitten | ok |
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18:12.31 | aseigo | tertitten: hm. yes, it should be there if nepomuk is up and running and providing metadata |
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18:34.06 | ruffy1 | Hello everyone |
18:34.40 | ruffy1 | I installed kde4 on my gf's machine. But compositing is choppy. She has a 7600gs. I installed the latest beta driver with no noticeable improvement |
18:35.16 | ruffy1 | I can't find much info on this card and KDE performance on the forums either. Only that one or two other people also weren't especially pleased with the performance. But that was a year ago |
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18:35.42 | ruffy1 | I know it should be able to handle it. As the card is fairly close in performance with the 7600gt |
18:35.48 | ruffy1 | which runs kde very very smoothly |
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18:39.37 | ruffy1 | !nvidia |
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20:24.49 | serpens | non-kde qt4 apps use old color settings on my system, what's wrong? |
20:25.07 | thiago_home | old? |
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20:26.21 | serpens | I changed color theme, but qt4 apps stayed with the old one |
20:26.35 | serpens | kde4 apps are fine |
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20:36.09 | jthomas_sb | serpens i've had that; restyarting the apps usually does the trick, or logout/login definitly does |
20:36.36 | serpens | many logout/ins and even reboots didn't |
20:36.41 | jthomas_sb | hmmm |
20:36.53 | jthomas_sb | any specific apps? |
20:37.02 | serpens | all using shared qt4 |
20:37.09 | serpens | kadu, opera, skype |
20:37.11 | jthomas_sb | i don't think i have too many Qt apps.. |
20:37.22 | jthomas_sb | yeah none of those on my system to test |
20:37.28 | serpens | opera-static and google earth are fine |
20:38.11 | serpens | on fluxbox I don't have this problem |
20:39.08 | jthomas_sb | on fluxbox, the qt4 apps obey the KDE4 colour settings, but not in KDE4? |
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20:39.59 | serpens | I had a dark theme and then switched to light |
20:40.37 | serpens | in kde, qt apps are still dark |
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20:41.35 | joko | Hi, is there any way to disable in KDE 4.3 the alt + mouse click = move window binding? |
20:41.38 | serpens | in fluxbox, they are light, but it might be some default color |
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20:42.52 | verbalshadow | joko yes in system setting under window behavior |
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20:44.22 | joko | verbalshadow: where exactly? Tbh, I was looking in keyboard shortcuts... |
20:45.22 | verbalshadow | window behavior->window actions, i have mine set to meta |
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20:49.38 | Azeotrope | hi. could tyou point me to some kde docking aps please? like avant for gnome, or the dock from macOS |
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20:51.07 | mokoloko | Azeotrope: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737 |
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20:51.49 | mokoloko | Smooth tasks is neat too but it's not really a dock :P |
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20:54.03 | Azeotrope | mokoloko: second link is what i don't want. i don't want a mini-menu for an icon. Pigdin for eg. I use pidgin and I have 5 chats open. I want the pidgin launcher to have this arrow when the app is docked (opened) and the rest of conversation their own icons |
20:55.12 | Azeotrope | I saw that latest avant did this shit with the minimenu too... you have to point pidgin's icon then a minimenu pops out and you get all the icons |
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20:57.31 | joko | verbalshadow: just found it, thanks for the tip |
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20:58.23 | verbalshadow | joko no problem |
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21:00.54 | mokoloko | Azeotrope: Well atleast of those daisy is very flexible maybe you can configure fancy too. Haven't used either much so can't really tell... Hope you find what you're looking for |
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21:06.56 | jthomas_sb | i've not really understood what a 'dock' does, can anyone clue me in on that? on OSX it seems to be a way for apps to never close. |
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21:07.48 | jthomas_sb | on OSX, the Close (windows) button has that same problem -- the app itself stays running |
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21:13.43 | enuke | hi |
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21:14.05 | enuke | how can i change font in console? |
21:14.29 | enuke | i have only monospace and mtx |
21:17.40 | jthomas_sb | enuke you need to have other, true monospaced fonts installed. liberation is an option, as are others, but if they claim to be monospaced that doesn't mean for sure that they are |
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21:21.58 | enuke | jthomas_sb: ou thanks |
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21:49.39 | do0ob | hellp |
21:49.49 | do0ob | is there an oxygen theme for google chrome? |
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21:52.30 | shockrates | how can i change the preview of a folder within the desktop folder widgit in my desktop |
21:52.30 | shockrates | in fedora |
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21:59.31 | jthomas_sb | changfe the preview, how, shockrates? |
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22:02.34 | fruitwerks | hey all.. just upgraded from 4.2.4 to 4.3.1 and I have no apps in my menus, I deleted my .kde4 folder, noluck |
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22:23.56 | evil-sheek | Hi everyone |
22:25.01 | evil-sheek | I'm trying to .html and .html files to open up in Firefox instead of konqueror |
22:26.02 | hagabaka | Alt-F2, type "File Association" |
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22:26.37 | evil-sheek | hagabaka: Thanks |
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22:38.52 | evil-sheek | I made changes to File Assoc., and the changes did take in effect. Do I have to log out and log back in? |
22:39.02 | evil-sheek | s/did/didn't |
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23:06.54 | Sash | Hi, is this intended behaviour or a bug: konsole 4.3.3 multiple tabs open. shell is active (receiving input) alt-tab to other window, alt tab back and shell is still active: good. clicking on a different tab: shell active: good. alt-tab to other window, clicking on the active tab of the konsole: shell not active: bad |
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23:10.59 | Sash | shell is also inactive when clicking on the window border or the tab background. |
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