IRC log for #kde on 20091125

00:00.27TheodenHow do I start powerdevil from a commandline.
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00:05.36TheodenHello?
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00:06.49Half-LeftLet me get sesame2 up and running
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00:08.13Half-LeftAnd strigi, my trunk is a bit messy at the moment
00:08.44Half-Leftthanks to billions of rpm deps
00:09.35Half-Leftsun java devel, ahhh good
00:10.12TheodenOut of 394 users - sure someone could respond to a question ...!
00:10.28Half-LeftMaybe we all don't know
00:10.43sreichmaybe we're all busy.
00:10.43sreichwe do have lives, you know.
00:10.53TheodenThen at least say that - it's just common courtesy.
00:11.02Half-Leftdbus commands are not a common thing for people to know
00:11.36TheodenOut of 394 people it's extremely unlikely that no one can at least acknowledge a question.
00:11.45sreichTheoden: uhm... away from keyboard??
00:11.50pinotreeTheoden: be patient on irc, usually
00:11.52TheodenAgreed - my problem exactly.  :)
00:11.55sreichthat's what was implied with the "we have lives"
00:11.58Half-LeftIf you want instant support, pay me £10 an hour :)
00:12.25TheodenOk - I see how it is here.
00:12.35Half-Leftwell, it's a £1 a minute at some places :)
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00:14.07sreichTheoden: it's how it is everywhere. You don't get a response from an e-mail, instantly. If you expect that, you should realize the truth...
00:17.59KenjiroHalf-Left: any tips on how to configure strigi (daemon.conf) so it will include "*.txt" files on the indexing?
00:18.15KenjiroI try using strigiclient to insert that filter, but it doesn't want to :(
00:18.35Half-LeftKenjiro: I'm trying to get mine built at the moment
00:18.48Half-Leftit should index all files
00:18.52Kenjiroby the way, I sent all my "file index" (strigi) to /dev/null and told strigi to re-index everything, just to be sure it will work this time
00:18.55Half-LeftYou can see it indexing them
00:19.05KenjiroHalf-Left: or should see ;)
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00:20.16Half-Leftshould is the word :p
00:20.22KenjiroHalf-Left: you mean "you can see" by firing up strigidaemon on the konsole, right?
00:20.38Half-Leftno, in the systemsettings
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00:21.21Half-LeftI comes up in the systray and if you move over the nepomuk icon, it shows what's being indexed
00:21.24Half-Leftit*
00:22.32Half-LeftWhen you enable Strigi, you should see this icon in the systray
00:22.38_errordeveloperi'm having some problems with mplayer/smplayer
00:23.06_errordeveloperwhen toggling fuulscreen you can see the bubly background that kdm sets ..
00:24.13KenjiroHalf-Left: when I do that I get a "Strigi service failed to initialize, most likely due to an instalation problem" on systemsettings
00:24.39Half-LeftThen that's why it's not indexing :p
00:25.01Kenjirono, it is indexing
00:25.05Half-Leftas it says, you have a installing issue
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00:25.14Half-Leftinstallation*
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00:28.34tartaxhey, im unable to add "remote resources" to my calender, the option simply does not appear when i add new resources... is there something i need to install?
00:28.52Kenjirowell... I will check this later
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00:31.37Raydiationhi is dolphin working under windows too?
00:31.51Raydiationi cant work with the default crap, i need tabs
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00:33.59brmassaguys, is there any plan/roadmap to port Konqueror to Webkit? its an old discussion, i  just want to know the current position...
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00:38.07MiescoWhat app in KDE4 do I use to setup printers?
00:38.26ErtheSystem Settings -> Printer Configuration
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00:42.36Theodenlol - thatnks for the help guys.  :/
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00:44.44Erthebrmassa: I have a feeling the KDE 4.x series won't see Webkit in Konqueror
00:44.48MiescoErthe: There is no 'Printer Configuration'!
00:45.38ErtheUh, then I'm afraid I'm at a loss.
00:45.55ErtheShould be in the General tab under Computer Administration
00:46.11Erthehttp://imagebin.ca/view/4syKys.html
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00:47.04MiescoI did emerge printer-applet
00:48.08reavertmyou need system-config-printer-kde
00:48.45Miescok
00:49.58brmassaErthe: hmmm thanks. its too bad. i was hoping the konq team would focus on other tasks than writting a html engine...
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00:51.03ErtheWell, the WebKitPart is in development.
00:51.54ErtheIt's likely to end up being an engine (maybe the default) but KHTML is good for about 90% of all the sites I visit on a daily basis.
00:53.02ErthePlus, with the influence of KHTML on WebKit, KHTML is very nice.
00:55.20Rasikhtml does not have any influence on webkit anymore
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00:56.54brmassaErthe: well... Google sites (gmail, wave, calendar), Facebook and other JS-based all complain about KHTML.
00:57.48brmassaErthe: Webkit started as a fork of KHTML, but now its far superior. so there is not much point on continue developing...
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01:23.10Gratz474any of you here big kate users?
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01:25.18ErtheI love Kate.
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01:25.29ErtheBut I don't use nearly as much of it as I probably could.
01:25.47ErtheDepends on what I'm working on I guess.
01:26.17ErtheKate is fantastic for shell scripting, HTML, scripting languages.
01:26.24brmassaGratz474: i am. i use it everyday for PHP and Lua development
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01:26.31ErtheAnything I have to compile to distribute, I use Eclipse.
01:26.48brmassaGratz474: why?
01:26.49Erthebrmassa: Lua, really?  :D
01:27.10ErtheWhat do you use Lua for?
01:27.26brmassaErthe: yep. the current syntax highlight specification on Kate is mine.
01:28.17brmassaErthe: well... generic stuff: since i HATE shell/bash, i use to write linux scripts in lua.
01:28.32ErtheAh, I typically use PHP for that nowadays.
01:28.39brmassaErthe: but now im developing an entire CMS (site builder) using it. its getting great.
01:28.52ErtheYou're building a CMS in Lua?
01:30.11brmassaErthe: i use PHP everyday. but its a quite messy language. no function naming standards, slow in most operations compared to others, the script code is always ugly....
01:31.01ErtheI have about 30 classes I created so I could construct shell scripts quickly.
01:31.10Erthe<-- kind of manic about control
01:31.11Erthe:D
01:33.20brmassaErthe: bash code is generally too much compact. its hard to read and understand another guy's code. and its easy to write something that does... nothing. or something wrong
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01:34.12ErtheYou can make any code readable, if you build yourself a sane library for how you like to write shell scripts.
01:34.45ErtheI want an ECMAScript shell.
01:35.33brmassaErthe: Lua and JavaScript/ecma has a lot in common.
01:36.54brmassaErthe: and there is one big advantage in favor of Lua: speed. its no accident that Lua is the De Facto standard on gamming industry. they need speed from anywhere they can get.
01:36.54ErtheLua != OO
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01:38.42brmassaErthe: Lua does not REQUIRE you to write OO programs. but it can simulate it nicely. Only really complex OO things you might not create an alternative solution on Lua.
01:39.11ErtheCan it converse with a database?
01:39.50brmassaErthe: search for LuaSQL plugin/module. i use it a lot since its a requirement for my CMS...
01:40.26brmassawhat i still dont know is the reason behind Gratz474 question...
01:41.05ErtheThat's interesting.
01:41.50ErtheI've thought of learning a bit about Python too.
01:42.58brmassaErthe: well, just  anote... im not here to evangelize about Lua.
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01:44.02ErtheIt's all good, people should talk about the things they enjoy.
01:44.51ErtheIs the GC good for Lua?
01:44.56brmassaErthe: Python is a great language. Far better than PHP and far faster than Ruby. But Python is not better than Lua at least in one aspect: "embeddable" (i dont know how to write it). Lua is designed to be called inside another program. So it would be natural to see it on KDE applications for example.
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01:45.10brmassaErthe: GC?
01:45.47ErtheGarbage collection.
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01:47.15brmassaErthe: yep. top notch. you can let it work automatically 99% of the time. If you want to create complex tricks you might do some small work mannually.
01:47.45ErtheThat's important.
01:48.15brmassaErthe: and the brand new JIT compiler (2.0 beta) is simply amazing. it accelerates about 15 TIMES the normal script.
01:48.17ErtheIt's nice to just let the code be expressive and allowing the VM to do the rest of the work on it's own.
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01:49.56Gratz474brmassa: it is a very nice editor
01:49.57brmassaErthe: yep. Lua is nice because the syntax is really simple. There is no OO concepts, no difference about arrays and lists and dictionaries... but you can simulate ANY of these if you need to.
01:50.04brmassaGratz474: i love it.
01:50.11Gratz474<< uses Python
01:50.29Gratz474also dont "mind" php
01:51.05brmassaErthe: you might want to take a look on http://shootout.alioth.debian.org  its a crazy guy that does constant banchmarks.... Some Lua codes are mine...
01:51.34brmassaGratz474: nice. the python support is great.
01:52.32brmassaGratz474: dont you miss specific dev tools? coz kate is great for editing, but its not a IDE....
01:53.25ErtheI use Eclipse when I'm working.
01:53.33ErtheI need something robust for that now.
01:54.04ErtheBut I used to use almost only Kate.
01:54.09Gratz474brmassa: i would like to start helping dev with kate
01:54.23ErtheKate + Konqueror (Split Panes) + KDE 3.4
01:54.24Gratz474also i was a big vim user, so the vim bindings are the best thing ever
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01:54.50Gratz474brmassa: 2ndly, i dont really know of any python ide truly
01:55.00brmassaErthe: yep. kate is good for small projects. but KDevelop (which uses several parts of Kate code for editing) its more suited for complex projects...
01:55.09Erthevi is a required skill for any software developer, imo  :D
01:55.10brmassaErthe: or eclipse...
01:55.19Gratz474code completion really does not work that well for dynamic languages
01:55.31ErtheUntil KDevelop works for me without crashing, I'll be using Eclipse.
01:55.39Gratz474alot of object attributes are created at run time
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01:56.10ErtheIt's easier when you know where your starting point is.
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01:56.16ErtheWith PHP, there's no main()
01:56.29ErtheIt's whatever script gets executed first.
01:56.39ErtheDifficult to predict what will be what.
01:56.50ErtheAlso, PHP has no types.  :(
01:56.54Gratz474Kate is good
01:57.00ErtheIt is.
01:57.03Gratz474needs a few things and it will be a perfect editor
01:57.08Gratz474needs a project manager
01:57.20Gratz474I see someone made one a few years ago, I might port it over
01:57.29ErtheWell, for Kate to be what I would want it to be, it needs quite a bit more than that.  :D
01:57.46brmassaErthe: well... genereally (not the case on Kate), IDEs have Project configuration files, so they can track all files and find extra data for code completion, optimizations....
01:58.36Erthebrmassa: Yes, but when using dynamic features of PHP, such as doing $obj->$param, the only way we'll know how such completions could be done from there until it's compiled.
01:58.57ErtheDynamic code is frustrating sometimes.
01:59.29ErtheI really do like KDevelop though, I wish it were more fleshed out.
01:59.42Erthe(And not crashing on me)
01:59.43brmassaErthe: well... sometimes its possible. but yes, since there is no requirement for previous variable declaration, its not always possible to guess...
01:59.59Erthebrmassa: *nods*
02:00.18ErtheJava though, you could totally do if the files were open in the editor.
02:00.19Gratz474yes code completion for dynamic languages is just not realistic
02:00.23ErtheSame with C and C++
02:00.32Gratz474i dont mind word completion though
02:00.37brmassaErthe: yep too. KDevelop (like some other KDE apps) are rapidly evolving but its not in a state that can be trusted.
02:00.58Gratz474c++ and qt is a pleasure to work in brmassa
02:01.17brmassawork in me?
02:01.22brmassa:P
02:01.38Gratz474qt makes gui development a breeze
02:02.01brmassai tried just a few days ago a QT tools called QT Creator. Jezz, its surprisingly good! really good.
02:02.39brmassathe IDE is compact and does not fell its 500mb gorilla.
02:03.14Gratz474qt creator is reallly good
02:03.18Gratz474been using it for a while
02:03.41Gratz474I really would like to add a few features to kate and i think it would be a very nice eidtor at that point
02:03.50Gratz474i got alot of free time next week so i might just do that
02:04.23brmassaGratz474: yep. its because i dont have the time to do some stuff myself, but i would love to see some project management on that.
02:04.38Gratz474someone already made something for it
02:04.43Gratz474maybe just 3-4 hours to add it
02:04.44Gratz474not bad
02:05.11brmassaGratz474: yep. but its for kde/kate3 afaik
02:05.22Gratz474still 4 hours :P
02:06.09brmassaGratz474: i use now a "patchy" solution by using the Sessions as different projects
02:06.24Gratz474yea
02:06.28Gratz474needs project management
02:06.48Gratz474its a fantastic editor
02:06.58Gratz474looks to be coded very well too
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02:07.59brmassaGratz474: yep. another feature i would like is a unification of color schemas accross the languages.
02:08.15brmassaGratz474: i reaported it once https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160529
02:08.27Gratz474should not be that difficult either
02:08.45Gratz474maybe antoher 4 hours for that
02:08.45Gratz474another*
02:08.46brmassaGratz474: i use Lua, Python, C and all of them have different color schemes...
02:09.04Gratz474do you know QT prettty well?
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02:09.57brmassaGratz474: kinda. sometimes i write some Qt tools for myself, like a small and simple Bazaar/GIT GUI...
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02:10.18Gratz474brmassa: qt, more so now is fun to dev in
02:10.55brmassaGratz474: yep. easy to prototype too...
02:11.39Gratz474do you use the vim stuff in kate?
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02:15.56Gratz474do you lke snippets brmassa?
02:15.56brmassaGratz474: thats generally im ashamed to say no. several people love it, but i dont have the habbit, so its simply weird for me.
02:16.05brmassaGratz474: yep.
02:16.06brmassaGratz474: tons
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02:17.06brmassaeverytime i reinstall Kubuntu, its a lot of work just to config Kate with code patterns (snippets), basic settings, color schemes...
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02:18.32ErtheI keep my home directory on a separate partition for this very reason.
02:18.49ErtheI've had the same home directory contents since 2003.  :D
02:19.05ErtheWell, it's grown, but I've never lost anything.
02:20.17ErtheBut it's 302GB in size.  Backing it up is a pain in the behind.
02:20.21brmassaErthe: yep. i used to do that. but 1* i kinda like the sensation of somethings fresh. 2* i make too many tests on my pc that breaks stuff...
02:21.12ErtheI have pictures on my hard drive of ex girlfriends dating back to the late 90s.
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02:21.35ErtheThough I'd probably run some of them over if I saw them, it's nice to have the memories at hand when necessary.
02:21.49Erthe900Mb of JPG files.
02:21.49Erthe:)
02:22.13ErtheAnd let me just say it, Gwenview = Happy
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02:23.36brmassaErthe: yep. i like Digikam. i really love that piece of software
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02:31.37ErtheI actually haven't used that yet.
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02:45.53SJrCan i have an MPG as a background wallpaper in KDE?
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02:49.47ender2070_that would be sick
02:51.44SJrYeah that would  be pretty cool
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03:08.14Gratz474brmassa: vim is the best, i mean the navigation that is
03:08.53brmassaGratz474: i might, one day, to try it. possibly on Kate.
03:15.48chronoshello guys
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06:21.26ritekHi there
06:22.10riteki'm running Fedora 10 and when I open Dragon Player and play some video/audio file, it sounds horrible, like white-noise sound, any ideas???
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07:01.09rindolfHi all.
07:01.09rindolfPlease help me: I'm on Mandriva Cooker and I had to kill X with KDE 4 (4.4.x-pre-alpha) because the panel and desktop died and now I cannot start any KDE applications, including konqueror, amarok and kopete. What should I do?
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07:02.14rindolfLast time I tried a reboot solved the problem, but I'd like to avoid it.
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07:17.41qqqqqqqq19hi, i have problems build pkde4 complaining about sip: Unable to find file "abstractaudiooutput.sip", but i only have /usr/share/sip/phonon/abstractaudiooutput.sip
07:17.44qqqqqqqq19after making softlinks in /usr/share/sip/ and /usr/include/ it compiled though
07:17.52qqqqqqqq19is that a bug or did i break something?
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07:31.02rindolfFound it! Had to kill gam_server
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08:01.17RyanMcCoskrieGudday everyone
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08:10.55rindolfHi RyanMcCoskrie
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08:18.10papulhow do i add a theme in kde??
08:18.22papuli mean how do i install a theme?
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08:26.17papulhow do i install a theme?
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08:31.11papulhey anyone here??
08:31.37RyanMcCoskrie... I'm thinking about that.
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08:33.29RyanMcCoskriepapul, Have you got the file?
08:33.50papulRyanMcCoskrie, yup
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08:35.29RyanMcCoskriepapul, And unpacked it? If there is a file labeled 'README' or 'INSTALL' consult that. If not check for files labeld either 'Makefile' or 'configure'
08:35.49papulRyanMcCoskrie, its a theme
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08:39.34RyanMcCoskriepapul, I've never  done this my self you see. I just searched for where the themes are kept on my system and it lkooked like that sort of process would be necessary to install one.
08:39.54papulRyanMcCoskrie, ok thanks
08:39.57papulbye
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08:41.08RyanMcCoskriepapul, bye.
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09:06.24s0xhey guys ... do you know a possibility to install dashboard widgets using the command line? cause installing any widgets using the gui doesnt work for me. Would be great if anyone could help me
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09:09.35RyanMcCoskries0x, I'm pretty sure that is possible. Do you have the file? If so what extension does it have?
09:10.25s0xzip
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09:12.07s0xnevermind, sorry for your time :p found the command line tool plasmapkg ... there you can install it using -t dashboard :)
09:12.12s0xthank you anyways ...
09:12.26RyanMcCoskries0x, That's okay.
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09:31.52RyanMcCoskrieAround twenty people came and left without a single message being said.
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09:42.03lmurrayRyanMcCoskrie, for a channel with almost 400 users--of which the majority are sleeping/idle--that's normal.
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10:04.56patkoscsabahi all
10:05.16patkoscsabahow can I set taskbar tooltips to show window previews ?
10:05.31patkoscsabaI have no compositing support ... if it matters
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10:36.46mycylinderHi
10:37.29mycylinderIn dolphin I switched off the menubar. How can I reenable it ?
10:37.45JucatoCtrl+M
10:38.10Jucatomycylinder: Ctrl+M
10:38.19mycylinderAnd in the contextthx
10:39.05mycylinderJucato, thx
10:39.37mycylinderin the context menu of a file/folder there is no entry for compressing to zip
10:39.59mycylinderneither for tgz
10:40.01Jucatodo you have Ark installed?
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10:40.52Jucatoit's usually right-click -> Compress -> Compress to ... I think it needs Ark to be installed
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10:42.28mycylinderark is install, but it can only decompress
10:42.38mycylinderinstalled
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11:02.04Jucatomycylinder: tried restarting Dolphin?
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11:13.08mycylinderJucato, yes
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11:15.36Jucatomycylinder: can you check if you have a /usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop file?
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11:18.09mycylinderJucato, 1 moment
11:19.00Jucatomycylinder: anyway, if you do find an "ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop" file but still no Compress -> As ZIP archive, try running the command "kbuildsycoca4" then try to check Dolphin again
11:19.39mycylinderJulian, ok thx
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11:25.17mycylinderkbuildsycoca4 throws a lot of error messages
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11:26.48Jucatoyeah ignore those errors
11:26.51Jucatoor warnings
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11:39.43wincidehi all, I have kde 4.3.2 and i cannot find the way to set up the panel with tasks for each desktop, instead of having all the open tasks in the panel at same tame for all the desktops..
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11:42.11Jucatowincide: right-click on an empty area in the task bar -> Task Manager Settings. there would be check boxes there
11:42.47Jucato(it would help if you're not running to many windows)
11:44.53wincideok ,i will try :)
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11:46.08krikotoday trunk is frozen - this is alpha or beta?
11:46.30QwertyMroadmap says beta 1
11:46.52krikoomg
11:46.54krikogotta try
11:47.14QwertyMnot frozen yet, there's still a few hours I think
11:47.31icwiener11:15h to go
11:48.04icwienerkriko: The beta1 release will be in about a week.
11:48.11krikowell, anyway opensuse builds will be probably tommorow ready
11:48.40icwienerhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Release_Schedule#November_25th.2C_2009:_Tag_KDE_4.4_Beta_1
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12:22.47rose-linuxhello everyone
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12:43.16peter-khello
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12:52.49slacker_nlhello, each time I upgrade my sound is muted, i've tried kmixctrl -s but it doesn't seem to work. Problem occurs on both debian and ubuntu
12:53.03slacker_nluhh, s/upgrade/boot/
12:53.28annmayou don't upgrade so often that it is a nuisance, do you?
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12:54.10slacker_nlannma: well, I use debian unstable and ubuntu devel releases, so I upgrade packages frequently
12:54.27slacker_nleitherway, problem is with booting :)
12:54.28annmaI don't see why this should happen
12:54.47annmaI compile kdemultimedia every month or so and no such problem
12:55.35slacker_nlbut would you know where to look for my muted sound @boot
12:56.10slacker_nlmm, i don't have kdemultimedia installed
12:56.26annmaat boot,
12:56.30annmaat boot?
12:56.44annmawhat about other mixers, are they also mute?
12:56.48annmalike alsamixer?
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12:57.56slacker_nlannma: headphone/speaker are also muted
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12:58.33annmaslacker_nl: I am trying to see if it's under KDE
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12:58.55annmais alsamixer also muted
12:59.35slacker_nli suppose not, since both speaker/headpone are muted, i'll check - brb
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13:08.54slacker_nli so hate that
13:09.02slacker_nlnow i don't have it
13:09.09slacker_nlwell, will be back
13:09.37annmasprayed some magic on slacker_nl's computer
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13:12.16slacker_nlty :)
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13:18.17annmajust lack of manpower
13:18.28annmarefer to techabse.kde.org to know more
13:18.32annmaabout plasma
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13:52.41idyllic[Kubuntu Karmic 9.10][KDE 4.3.3] Is there a way to set font size in SystemSettings-Appearance-Font to non-integer like 8.5? Thanks
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13:53.57Half-Leftidyllic: Just type "8.5" in the font size box
13:54.14Jucatowas that implemented already? thought it was still being discussed
13:54.27idyllicHalf-Left: doesn't allow me to do so.
13:54.43Half-LeftWell I'm using trunk and it works
13:55.07Torchidyllic: not in kde 4.3
13:55.10Torchidyllic: will be in kde 4.4
13:55.20Torchhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122618
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13:55.40Casterdo you mean KDE Software Compliation 4.4?
13:55.46Half-LeftYeah, you have a box now for manual size input
13:55.47idyllicTorch: thanks :) Will the condensed font will be available in kde4.4 as well? Dejavusans condensed isn't listed as option
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13:56.32pinotreeidyllic: that has nothing to do with kde
13:56.35Torchidyllic: kde isn't shipping fonts
13:56.49Torchidyllic: you can install any font you like in addition to the one your distro provided.
13:58.16idyllicTorch: yes, i understand, but i installed condensed version of DejavuSans but it isnt listed in options to choose.
13:59.34pinotreemost probably Qt doesn't see/recognize that variant
13:59.35Torchidyllic: in this case it's probably not installed correctly.
14:00.28idyllicTorch: well, it is default in my distro anyway. I tried manual install as well. Both no goes. Google gave me a result of QT bug.
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14:14.12icwienerI have a problem with KMail (KDE 4.3.2). Attachments are not always stored where I want them to be. If I choose "Save Link As..." from the konext menu, the file chooser appears. It just dissappears when pressing OK for a location but the file is not stored.
14:16.03annmaso you do: Save as
14:16.16annmathe KDE file dialog appears
14:16.32annmalinks?
14:16.48annmaI am trying with a pic attachment
14:17.35icwienerlinks?
14:17.58annma"Save Link As..." from the  you said
14:18.02annmawhy save link?
14:18.26icwienerThe menu item is called "Save Link As..." here.
14:18.32annmaI have "Save As..."
14:18.35icwienerThe contect menu for the attachment.
14:18.37annmawhat menu item?
14:18.42annmaI don't have that
14:18.52annmawhat attachement mime type is it?
14:18.55annmaany?
14:18.56icwienerIf you right-click on the attachment?
14:18.59annmayes
14:19.21icwienerIt is a TS file (Qt's translation file containing XML).
14:19.23annmaOpen, Open With, View, Save As...,
14:19.39annmatry with a pic
14:19.58annmamaybe you have a specific mime type problems on those files
14:20.07icwienerHmm, interesting. I have another context menu in another mail with another TS file.
14:20.25annmathen I have Copy, Delete Attachment, Properties
14:21.21annmasame for a .txt attachement
14:21.47annmaOpen, Open With, View, Save As..., Copy, Delete Attachment, Properties
14:21.54annmathose are the context actions I get
14:22.00icwienerI have your menu on all other files just not that one. But I remember having the problem before with other TS files.
14:22.08annmaah see
14:22.58icwienertries another mail app...
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14:26.08annmatry to see in dolphin
14:26.17annmawhat context menu there is
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14:26.37annmaI don't think it's a kmail problem but a kde one
14:27.12Half-Leftargh! kdebase bombing out
14:27.26annmaicwiener: the TS files I see have no icons
14:27.54skunkpimpHey, how do I go about migrating settings from kde 3.5 to kde 4? copying .kde to kde4 blindly will break things according to google
14:27.55annmain Dolphin, so they are not associated with a known mime type
14:28.10annmaskunkpimp: what do you want to keep?
14:28.12icwienerannma: Dolphin offers the "Open in Qt Linguist" action.
14:28.29annmanot here
14:28.33annmayou set it probably
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14:28.39icwienerNo.
14:29.17annmaI only have 'Open with...' and no prog name
14:29.26annmawhat icon is there for your TS files?
14:29.38icwienerannma: The Question mark.
14:29.41skunkpimpMy Konversation has a lot of stuff, and Kopete, I think I could get away with starting everything else fresh
14:30.12annmamy file type dialog sets no prog for it and does not know it
14:30.21Sho_skunkpimp: The KDE 4 version of Konversation is fully compatible with config files from the KDE 3 version
14:30.24skunkpimpKopete I merely should copy my logs over..
14:30.28Sho_skunkpimp: You can copy that over just fine
14:31.00icwienerannma: Do you have Linguist installed?
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14:31.07Torchskunkpimp: generally stuff will not break. the worst to happen is that an app seems to have forgotten some (or in bad cases most or all) settings
14:31.28skunkpimpGood - I'll back up my current config of course
14:31.39Torchskunkpimp: yes. always keep backups and just try it out
14:34.05annmaicwiener: yes
14:34.14annmait comes with Qt which I built
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14:36.23icwienerHmm, the file has DOS newlines. Could that cause it?
14:36.29icwienerannma: Can I send your the file?
14:36.47skunkpimpthanks
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14:38.46icwienerannma: Fear not, it's not porn. :D
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14:45.14annmaicwiener: yes
14:45.18annmabut I have some
14:45.29annmain Qt source
14:45.38icwienerTS files with DOS newlines?
14:45.45annmano
14:46.02annmaso it's only this file which behaves strange?
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14:46.16icwienerYes, from what I have here.
14:46.39annmaOK let's see it
14:46.53icwienerannma: Maybe you could check if KMail shows you the right context menu on the file I just sent you.
14:47.08annmaok
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14:48.37annmaicwiener: same context menu, exactly as above
14:48.51annmano "Save link as"
14:49.38icwienerHmm...
14:49.55icwienerannma: Ok, thanks for checking. Then my installation is broken in some way.
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14:52.37annmaI can save it OK and it has no linguist attached to be opened in
14:52.52annmathis is 4.3 branch
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15:05.36icwienerannma: Yes it is 4.3.2 here. I have no idea what's causing it. Maybe some config file screwup. I had one with th systray as well and had to remove its config to work again.
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15:33.57Elmaronah. "Null password" optoin
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15:34.14Elmaronor just the users I added to the users list in the kde settins
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17:07.31szalplus will the display of these notices ever be fixed?  progress bars and text go over the right edge
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17:15.55HorizonXPhey, i'm using kde 4.3.75 (so 4.4), and I'm trying to add a google calendar resource in akonadi.
17:16.01HorizonXPthis seems to work, but only shows my main calendar; i can't choose other calendars. Ideas?
17:16.13HorizonXPor has this just not been implemented as yet?
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17:18.55mariod3x: i clicked more, it doesnt have MB/s
17:19.25mariod3x: it only shows MB/s when i detach it from tray
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18:05.28coz_hey guys..on kde  + compiz  is it possible to have multiple wallpapers  ?   I havent used kde for some time now to know
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18:07.32tertittenanyone know of any addin/plugin for Dolphin that will enable reading propreties of media files ? like codec, bitrate, etc etc (when right clicking choosing propreties)
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18:09.26aseigotertitten: whatever the strigi indexer can come up with, which iirc is basically "whatever taglib can do".. let me double check
18:09.44tertittenok
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18:12.31aseigotertitten: hm. yes, it should be there if nepomuk is up and running and providing metadata
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18:34.06ruffy1Hello everyone
18:34.40ruffy1I installed kde4 on my gf's machine.  But compositing is choppy.  She has a 7600gs.  I installed the latest beta driver with no noticeable improvement
18:35.16ruffy1I can't find much info on this card and KDE performance on the forums either.  Only that one or two other people also weren't especially pleased with the performance.  But that was a year ago
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18:35.42ruffy1I know it should be able to handle it.  As the card is fairly close in performance with the 7600gt
18:35.48ruffy1which runs kde very very smoothly
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20:24.49serpensnon-kde qt4 apps use old color settings on my system, what's wrong?
20:25.07thiago_homeold?
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20:26.21serpensI changed color theme, but qt4 apps stayed with the old one
20:26.35serpenskde4 apps are fine
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20:36.09jthomas_sbserpens i've had that; restyarting the apps usually does the trick, or logout/login definitly does
20:36.36serpensmany logout/ins and even reboots didn't
20:36.41jthomas_sbhmmm
20:36.53jthomas_sbany specific apps?
20:37.02serpensall using shared qt4
20:37.09serpenskadu, opera, skype
20:37.11jthomas_sbi don't think i have too many Qt apps..
20:37.22jthomas_sbyeah none of those on my system to test
20:37.28serpensopera-static and google earth are fine
20:38.11serpenson fluxbox I don't have this problem
20:39.08jthomas_sbon fluxbox, the qt4 apps obey the KDE4 colour settings, but not in KDE4?
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20:39.59serpensI had a dark theme and then switched to light
20:40.37serpensin kde, qt apps are still dark
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20:41.35jokoHi, is there any way to disable in KDE 4.3 the alt + mouse click = move window binding?
20:41.38serpensin fluxbox, they are light, but it might be some default color
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20:42.52verbalshadowjoko yes in system setting under window behavior
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20:44.22jokoverbalshadow: where exactly? Tbh, I was looking in keyboard shortcuts...
20:45.22verbalshadowwindow behavior->window actions, i have mine set to meta
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20:49.38Azeotropehi. could tyou point me to some kde docking aps please? like avant for gnome, or the dock from macOS
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20:51.07mokolokoAzeotrope: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fancy+Tasks?content=99737
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20:51.49mokolokoSmooth tasks is neat too but it's not really a dock :P
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20:54.03Azeotropemokoloko: second link is what i don't want. i don't want a mini-menu for an icon. Pigdin for eg. I use pidgin and I have 5 chats open. I want the pidgin launcher to have this arrow when the app is docked (opened) and the rest of conversation their own icons
20:55.12AzeotropeI saw that latest avant did this shit with the minimenu too... you have to point pidgin's icon then a minimenu pops out and you get all the icons
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20:57.31jokoverbalshadow: just found it, thanks for the tip
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20:58.23verbalshadowjoko no problem
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21:00.54mokolokoAzeotrope: Well atleast of those daisy is very flexible maybe you can configure fancy too. Haven't used either much so can't really tell... Hope you find what you're looking for
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21:06.56jthomas_sbi've not really understood what a 'dock' does, can anyone clue me in on that?  on OSX it seems to be a way for apps to never close.
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21:07.48jthomas_sbon OSX, the Close (windows) button has that same problem -- the app itself stays running
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21:14.05enukehow can i change font in console?
21:14.29enukei have only monospace and mtx
21:17.40jthomas_sbenuke you need to have other, true monospaced fonts installed.  liberation is an option, as are others, but if they claim to be monospaced that doesn't mean for sure that they are
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21:21.58enukejthomas_sb: ou thanks
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21:49.49do0obis there an oxygen theme for google chrome?
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21:52.30shockrateshow can i change the preview of a folder within the desktop folder widgit in my desktop
21:52.30shockratesin fedora
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21:59.31jthomas_sbchangfe the preview, how, shockrates?
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22:02.34fruitwerkshey all.. just upgraded from 4.2.4 to 4.3.1 and I have no apps in my menus, I deleted my .kde4 folder, noluck
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22:23.56evil-sheekHi everyone
22:25.01evil-sheekI'm trying to .html and .html files to open up in Firefox instead of konqueror
22:26.02hagabakaAlt-F2, type "File Association"
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22:26.37evil-sheekhagabaka: Thanks
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22:38.52evil-sheekI made changes to File Assoc., and the changes did take in effect. Do I have to log out and log back in?
22:39.02evil-sheeks/did/didn't
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23:06.54SashHi, is this intended behaviour or a bug: konsole 4.3.3 multiple tabs open. shell is active (receiving input) alt-tab to other window, alt tab back and shell is still active: good. clicking on a different tab: shell active: good. alt-tab to other window, clicking on the active tab of the konsole: shell not active: bad
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23:10.59Sashshell is also inactive when clicking on the window border or the tab background.
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