| 00:00.12 | Andr3wU | i'm keeping my copy of 1.4 maintained |
| 00:00.19 | Andr3wU | whether i distribute patches is my decision |
| 00:00.23 | sreich | 1.x uses kde3 though.. |
| 00:00.26 | Andr3wU | yup |
| 00:00.32 | sreich | do you use kde4? |
| 00:00.32 | Andr3wU | maybe i'll fix it for kde 4 and qt 4 |
| 00:00.35 | Andr3wU | yes |
| 00:00.51 | Andr3wU | i have the minimum required to run amarok 1.4 |
| 00:00.55 | Andr3wU | installed* |
| 00:00.56 | sreich | well, porting it to qt4 is *a lot*, I repeat..*a lot* of work |
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| 00:01.05 | Andr3wU | it's not even that |
| 00:01.07 | Andr3wU | it's the features |
| 00:01.15 | sreich | it isn't just renaming classes from old to new |
| 00:01.18 | Andr3wU | and the layout of amarok 2, plus not being able to make it like the way i liek |
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| 00:01.28 | sreich | you can make it the way you like |
| 00:01.33 | Andr3wU | ok |
| 00:01.40 | Andr3wU | tell me how to place the context on the left |
| 00:01.40 | sreich | amarok 2.x has the ability to drag layouts around wherever you want |
| 00:01.52 | sreich | "context"? |
| 00:01.57 | Andr3wU | tell me how to place the play/pause/etc on the bottom exactloy where it was in amarok 1 |
| 00:02.01 | Andr3wU | exactly* |
| 00:02.11 | Andr3wU | lastly tell me how to not make it ugly |
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| 00:02.22 | sreich | right click the toolbar, or go into settings, click "lock layout[X]" and uncheck it. |
| 00:02.30 | sreich | Drag that toolbar. Done. |
| 00:03.08 | Andr3wU | well see |
| 00:03.26 | Andr3wU | http://omploader.org/vMzBxeg |
| 00:03.33 | Andr3wU | you make me that with amarok 2 :P |
| 00:03.38 | Andr3wU | then send me the config files |
| 00:04.39 | sreich | god the colours are ugly in that.. |
| 00:05.06 | sreich | but yeah, you can't do "that" |
| 00:05.13 | sreich | send patches :) |
| 00:07.13 | Andr3wU | i like the colours |
| 00:07.16 | cibaer | Andr3wU: you are not the only one who likes amarok-1.x better |
| 00:07.17 | Andr3wU | people always hate blue |
| 00:07.22 | Andr3wU | cibaer: i know |
| 00:07.26 | Andr3wU | what are your colours? silver? |
| 00:07.28 | Andr3wU | awful |
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| 00:07.58 | zegenie | so, what's up with oxygen-icons.org? |
| 00:08.01 | Andr3wU | colour war |
| 00:08.24 | zegenie | ? |
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| 00:08.47 | sreich | Andr3wU: naw, I like blue, just..not that shade :) |
| 00:08.48 | Jucato | Andr3wU: not exactly the same, but somewhat: http://imagebin.org/75903 |
| 00:09.02 | Jucato | just dunno how to put the tabs at the top or side if it's possible |
| 00:09.05 | Andr3wU | Jucato: where are you getting the lyrics from? |
| 00:09.08 | sreich | zegenie: huh? |
| 00:09.12 | Andr3wU | normally |
| 00:09.23 | sreich | zegenie: oh, I see. |
| 00:09.26 | Andr3wU | all hte scripts for amarok1 are dead |
| 00:09.26 | zegenie | all I'm getting is a blank page that says "ciao david" |
| 00:09.32 | sreich | you could have been more explanatory than initially :) |
| 00:09.34 | zegenie | not very useful :P |
| 00:09.38 | zegenie | hehe, I could |
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| 00:09.49 | zegenie | but then you would have had no incentive to go look it up ;) |
| 00:10.03 | Jucato | Andr3wU: I don't have any music at the moment that has lyrics |
| 00:10.07 | Andr3wU | oh |
| 00:10.15 | Andr3wU | well i have like 3 scripts for amarok1 |
| 00:10.25 | Andr3wU | one used to work liek a charm |
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| 00:10.38 | Andr3wU | lyric-wiki was someone decent and better because it's a wiki and submitting lyrics was immediate |
| 00:10.44 | Jucato | the problem with the lyrics script isn't amarok's though |
| 00:10.49 | sreich | amarok from master, the lyrics occassionally work..the script doesn't always run sometimes though.. |
| 00:10.50 | Andr3wU | the real issue is that they all curl'd |
| 00:11.01 | Jucato | the wikis changed policies or something like that |
| 00:11.06 | Andr3wU | yea |
| 00:11.09 | Andr3wU | because of copyright |
| 00:11.14 | pinotree | policy and html layout |
| 00:11.24 | Andr3wU | cURLing is our only option |
| 00:11.26 | Andr3wU | but it sucks |
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| 00:11.48 | Andr3wU | all the other mainstream lyrics sites like billboard change layouts too |
| 00:11.52 | Andr3wU | so we'd have to watch out for that |
| 00:12.17 | Andr3wU | a site with any kind of REST API would be great |
| 00:12.23 | Andr3wU | something reliable |
| 00:13.01 | Jucato | Andr3wU: http://imagebin.org/75904 working lyrics |
| 00:13.08 | Andr3wU | what source? |
| 00:13.17 | jaem | does anyone know when the winner of the Camp KDE contest is going to be announced? |
| 00:13.20 | Jucato | Lyricwiki according to the script manager |
| 00:13.23 | Andr3wU | heh |
| 00:13.29 | Andr3wU | i contribute to lyric-wiki when i can |
| 00:13.34 | Andr3wU | well, i did |
| 00:13.44 | Andr3wU | they changed layout and deleted all old accounts afaik |
| 00:13.52 | Andr3wU | i can't log into my old account |
| 00:14.17 | Andr3wU | http://lyrics.wikia.com/User:Tatsh gone |
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| 01:33.39 | kothog | is it just me, or has the gpg interface for kmail been simplified? is there a way to get the light-green back, along with a default of showing the key id so I can just select it and import it myself when necessary? mayeb some configuration option I'm missing? |
| 01:34.27 | kothog | Distro: NetBSD-4, release 3.5.9. Ooo.. look at that. I'm way behind. |
| 01:35.03 | kothog | i guess my question then becomes: does 4.3.4 display the keyid in kmail for a gpg-signed message? :-) |
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| 02:00.09 | JohnFlux | Any users want to contribute and write some documentation for me? |
| 02:00.33 | JohnFlux | for the System Activity (thing that pops up when you press ctrl+esc) |
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| 02:09.52 | jaem | JohnFlux, I could probably do that |
| 02:09.53 | jaem | what do you need? |
| 02:10.02 | jaem | tell me and I'll see ;) |
| 02:11.49 | JohnFlux | jaem: cool :-) |
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| 02:12.01 | JohnFlux | jaem: well, just press ctrl+esc and see what it does :) |
| 02:12.09 | JohnFlux | jaem: There's no documentation at all |
| 02:12.23 | jaem | JohnFlux, of that feature, you mean, or the resulting dialog? |
| 02:12.33 | JohnFlux | jaem: The resulting dialog |
| 02:12.41 | jaem | ah, okay |
| 02:13.03 | jaem | does that get loaded into KSysGuard, or is it just a copy of that view? |
| 02:13.30 | JohnFlux | jaem: it's a seperate thing that uses the same widget to show the list of processes |
| 02:13.40 | jaem | JohnFlux, makes sense |
| 02:13.55 | JohnFlux | jaem: maybe fixing the documentation of ksysguard would be better and easier, actually |
| 02:14.02 | jaem | is there a current article in UserBase where this should go,then? |
| 02:14.20 | JohnFlux | jaem: I don't think so |
| 02:14.59 | JohnFlux | jaem: ksysguard has some very out of date documentation in Help->System Monitor Handbook |
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| 02:16.36 | JohnFlux | jaem: simple and easy to read is better than complete :-) |
| 02:17.33 | jaem | yeah... I see what you mean. For someone that can't figure it out themselves, the intro would tell them almost nothing |
| 02:17.50 | JohnFlux | right |
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| 02:18.34 | JohnFlux | I see two target audiences. The first being someone who really doesn't know much at all, but is forced to use this because a process is using 100% CPU |
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| 02:18.41 | jaem | to be honest, I can't get to this right now, but if nobody else takes care of it first, I would be happy to do it when I can |
| 02:19.03 | jaem | maybe PM me with more details, and if someone else takes it on, then let me know so I don't duplicate work |
| 02:19.07 | JohnFlux | The second being someone who has used linux for a while, but doesn't really know what shared memory, rss memory etc is :) |
| 02:19.08 | jaem | sorry |
| 02:19.13 | JohnFlux | jaem: no problem |
| 02:19.19 | JohnFlux | jaem: thanks anyway |
| 02:19.28 | jaem | you're welcome :) |
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| 02:58.01 | penta | hello, anybody alive? |
| 03:00.28 | penta | anyone use lirc? |
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| 03:01.16 | Frogbarf | Where do the protocol icons come from that appear when you mouse over the system tray? They are now displaying as what look like empty page icons rather than those for the individual protocols. is there some way I can fix this? |
| 03:01.45 | Frogbarf | I am referring to the Kopete system tray icon |
| 03:06.11 | jaem | Frogbarf, I've seen that the odd time - which distro are you using? |
| 03:08.25 | Frogbarf | jaem: Suse 11.1 |
| 03:09.22 | jaem | Frogbarf, ah... the last few SuSE installs I or my friends have done have ended badly (whether through an accident or maybe something unforeseen), so I'm not sure what to say |
| 03:09.45 | Frogbarf | sorry to hear that |
| 03:09.45 | jaem | the icons are all in /usr/share/icons/oxygen |
| 03:09.49 | jaem | for the default set |
| 03:10.06 | jaem | first thing would be to check that the icon exists somewhere in there |
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| 03:10.18 | Frogbarf | good idea |
| 03:10.18 | jaem | they're named sensible things, for the most part, so checking should be easy |
| 03:10.37 | jaem | if it's there, and not displaying, then it's probably beyond me, but let me know |
| 03:10.37 | Frogbarf | I'll try changing my icon themes and see if it has an effect |
| 03:10.59 | jaem | nods |
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| 03:15.07 | Ms_Hutch | how do i set my keyboard's volume media wheel to amarok? The volume wheel works for the system volume and internet volume... but amarok is not affected???? I have a Logitech G15 and running Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.3.2 and Amarok 2.2.0 |
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| 03:17.06 | jaem | Ms_Hutch, KMix is grabbing the key events |
| 03:17.24 | jaem | if you go to System Settings, you can change that |
| 03:17.26 | jaem | one sec |
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| 03:17.58 | jaem | actually, wait a sec |
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| 03:18.14 | jaem | Ms_Hutch, is it changing the system volume, but not *any* application volume? |
| 03:18.30 | jaem | it sounds like you're saying that it does different things in different contexts |
| 03:20.12 | Frogbarf | changing the icon theme didn't seem to have any effect, but it's not a big deal |
| 03:20.33 | Ms_Hutch | jaem: ah hah... right when you said it was controlled by kmix.. i checked my keyboard shortcuts and found that the kmix global shortcuts were only set for a specific audio channel versus the master one... changed the setting and it works perfectly now... thank you!!!! |
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| 03:21.47 | jaem | Ms_Hutch, good - that makes sense now that I think about it :) |
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| 03:32.33 | jaem | some things on my Arch desktop seem to autostart without being in the KDE autostart list |
| 03:32.41 | jaem | is there an alternate mechanism or setting? |
| 03:32.57 | jaem | on my friend's laptop, some GNOME systray applets were even starting for some reason |
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| 03:52.48 | corinth | Hey #kde - does anyone know of a way to add different weather providers (like Yahoo! weather) to the LCD weather widget? |
| 03:53.56 | jaem | corinth, I believe all the weather-related widgets pull from a Plasma Dataengine, which is where you'd have to work to change it |
| 03:54.04 | jaem | but that would require some coding, as far as I know |
| 03:54.53 | corinth | I know that the yawp weather widget uses yahoo. The NOAA weather source pulls weather from a city about...30 miles away from me...haha. |
| 03:55.02 | jaem | corinth, not sure, then |
| 03:55.30 | jaem | if you can read code, just take a look at it |
| 03:55.40 | corinth | Can't really, lol. :-) |
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| 03:56.16 | jaem | not sure then, sorry |
| 03:56.36 | corinth | No problem. :-) |
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| 03:59.58 | Frogbarf | How do I create a custom keyboard shortcut in kde4? I am looking at the keybindings options but I seem to only be able to change what's there. I want to add something like ctrl-w to run the command "kwin --replace" |
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| 04:02.05 | lmurray | Foriskak, System settings -> Input actions |
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| 04:03.05 | lmurray | Then right-click on the list on the left -> New -> Global shortcut -> comand/url |
| 04:03.17 | lucas_ | hi my amarok does not work anymore, i am using mandriva 2009.1 and kde4 |
| 04:03.27 | lucas_ | $ amarok |
| 04:03.27 | lucas_ | <unknown program name>(17918)/: Communication problem with "amarok" , it probably crashed. |
| 04:03.27 | lucas_ | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " |
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| 04:18.01 | Tekk_ | I need some help, where can I find the colemak.keyboard for ktouch? it wasn't included in my version(the current one in gnewsense, Qt: 3.3.8b |
| 04:18.01 | Tekk_ | KDE: 3.5.10 |
| 04:18.01 | Tekk_ | KTouch: 1.5.3 |
| 04:18.02 | Tekk_ | ) |
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| 04:21.11 | jaem | Tekk_, one sec |
| 04:21.51 | jaem | Tekk_, unless I'm missing something here, it wasn't there at the time: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/3.5.10/kdeedu/ktouch/keyboards/ |
| 04:22.06 | jaem | you could try pulling the file from a newer release, maybe |
| 04:22.17 | jaem | but I don't know if it would be compatible |
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| 04:22.48 | Tekk_ | jaem: it's fine, I have no issues with compiling the latest from source ;P |
| 04:23.30 | jaem | Tekk_, well, the next release is a KDE4 version, which is why I said I didn't know if the keyboard files are compatible |
| 04:23.36 | jaem | they may well be, but I'm not sure |
| 04:23.50 | jaem | I'll give you a link to the current one, and you can try |
| 04:24.13 | Tekk_ | site says my KDE is more than enough |
| 04:24.23 | jaem | Tekk_, link? |
| 04:24.33 | Tekk_ | http://ktouch.sourceforge.net/download.php |
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| 04:26.03 | jaem | Tekk_, what I meant is that with 3.5.10 being the last release in the 3.x series, you can't run a newer version of KTouch without installing parts of the KDE Platform from version 4.x |
| 04:26.10 | Tekk_ | oh |
| 04:26.14 | jaem | if those are available for you distro, then sure |
| 04:26.38 | jaem | here is the file from the latest stable version of KTouch: http://ktouch.sourceforge.net/download.php |
| 04:26.41 | jaem | oops |
| 04:26.55 | jaem | I have no idea if this will work, but for what it's worth: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/tags/KDE/4.3.4/kdeedu/ktouch/keyboards/colemak.keyboard.xml?revision=1055148 |
| 04:26.57 | Tekk_ | jaem: a quick sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will take care of the KDE 4 problem anyway ;P |
| 04:27.19 | jaem | I thought you said you were running gnewsense? |
| 04:27.51 | Tekk_ | I am |
| 04:28.00 | jaem | and that's Ubuntu-based? |
| 04:28.04 | Tekk_ | yes |
| 04:28.08 | Tekk_ | it's the free ubuntu ;) |
| 04:28.08 | jaem | oh... silly me |
| 04:28.17 | jaem | heh |
| 04:28.24 | jaem | Free as in Doesn't Work? |
| 04:28.27 | jaem | kidding |
| 04:28.33 | jaem | :P |
| 04:28.43 | jaem | yeah, I'd recommend upgrading in any case |
| 04:28.45 | Tekk_ | jaem: that's true with half the wireless cards >.> |
| 04:28.53 | jaem | KDE SC 4.3.4 is pretty solid |
| 04:29.04 | jaem | Tekk_, indeed |
| 04:29.10 | Tekk_ | eh |
| 04:29.16 | Tekk_ | I don't like where KDE went with 4 |
| 04:29.18 | jaem | do they even ship non-free firmware? |
| 04:29.24 | jaem | Tekk_, I meant stability-wise |
| 04:29.35 | Tekk_ | oh |
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| 04:30.01 | jaem | "like" is a matter of a opinion, but I'd say that it's a "good" release, inasmuch as I can be objective with my bias ;) |
| 04:30.01 | Tekk_ | that and I use GNOME |
| 04:30.15 | jaem | Tekk_, well, you can install kdelibs without installing the workspace or other apps |
| 04:30.26 | Tekk_ | BUT, I set up my brother with KDE and he liked it better...so I'll be on here more often ;) |
| 04:31.09 | Tekk_ | that and I can't like without konqueror as an ftp client |
| 04:33.00 | Tekk_ | live* |
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| 04:34.46 | zubin71 | hello, id like some help with my konsole font. |
| 04:35.21 | zubin71 | id like to use the monaco font. i copied the font to the ~.font directory but the font selector does not shot that font |
| 04:35.28 | zubin71 | what should i do? please help. |
| 04:36.06 | cleary_ | zubin71: k-menu -> system settings -> font installer |
| 04:36.17 | cleary_ | install the font there, restart konsole |
| 04:36.21 | cleary_ | choose monaco |
| 04:37.31 | zubin71 | cleary_ the monaco font is already there... |
| 04:38.08 | cleary_ | zubin71: ok, have you restarted konsole? |
| 04:38.11 | zubin71 | cleary_ i dint have to install it... i installed the copied the font to the directory using the konsole earlier. |
| 04:38.16 | Tekk_ | for the love of god... |
| 04:38.30 | Tekk_ | PLEASE tell me that they use generic configure scripts in the kde stuff |
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| 04:38.44 | mase_wk | they use cmake |
| 04:38.50 | mase_wk | irrc |
| 04:38.59 | Tekk_ | alright, easier question |
| 04:39.00 | mase_wk | iirc* |
| 04:39.13 | Tekk_ | please tell me they didn't use fortan 77 in ktouch ;P |
| 04:39.13 | cleary_ | zubin71: ok, have you restarted konsole? |
| 04:39.22 | mase_wk | no idea. i doubt it |
| 04:39.31 | zubin71 | cleary_ restarted; still doesnt show up... :-/ |
| 04:39.46 | mase_wk | what are you trying to do ? |
| 04:39.53 | cleary_ | zubin71: no idea then - is it called something other than 'monaco' ? |
| 04:40.23 | Tekk_ | mase_wk: nothing, I just noticed checking if there's fortran 77 go by as i was configuring ;P |
| 04:40.46 | zubin71 | cleary_ um... monaco.ttf ; thats the filename... so... |
| 04:41.17 | cleary_ | yeah, but the filename vs the name the font is registering itself as, I meant |
| 04:41.30 | cleary_ | you could call that file bananas.ttf |
| 04:41.36 | zubin71 | cleary_ :) |
| 04:41.57 | zubin71 | cleary_ well, i had tried it on gnome ages ago; it had showed up as monaco... so... i spose thats it... |
| 04:42.58 | cleary_ | zubin71: fair enough, the only thing I'd try doing now is uninstalling and reinstalling via the font manager |
| 04:43.18 | zubin71 | cleary_ ok |
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| 04:46.09 | zubin71 | cleary_ thats not working either... |
| 04:46.22 | zubin71 | cleary_ anyway... thankx for helping! :) |
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| 05:13.23 | marco | 7nick micyag |
| 05:13.36 | micyag | will there be kde 4.3.5 release? |
| 05:16.55 | jedix | never! |
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| 05:33.36 | nikwasi | Enter text here...anyone now how to edit the rmb desktop menu in kde 3 |
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| 05:41.13 | nikwasi947 | hello |
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| 06:17.58 | comawhite | is there a way to stop the search and "something" netbook thing from starting when I log in to KDE4. As I'm not using a netbook but a desktop? |
| 06:18.06 | comawhite | using 4.3.82 here |
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| 06:53.25 | xevious | Any input related devs in here? |
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| 07:02.51 | xevious | How well does OpenOffice integrate with KDE4? |
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| 07:03.04 | xevious | Or is KOffice 2 getting at all close to being usable on a daily basis? |
| 07:03.23 | xevious | (I really just need word processor and spreadsheet functionality.) |
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| 07:31.27 | Goliath | hi |
| 07:31.47 | Goliath | is there anyway to list the applications in my kde menu? |
| 07:31.58 | Goliath | i mean is there a conf file or text file |
| 07:32.01 | Goliath | that contains this info |
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| 07:40.46 | Goliath | anyone? |
| 07:40.54 | Goliath | of the 350 ppl and bots |
| 07:42.46 | Goliath | apokryphos: ela greek |
| 07:42.53 | skelet | i think the menu is from /usr/share/apps or applications |
| 07:43.20 | skelet | there are many .desktop files there. it's not kde specific |
| 07:46.50 | Goliath | how can i pipe the list of it to kate? |
| 07:46.54 | Goliath | i tried |
| 07:47.03 | Goliath | sudo ls -a /usr/share/apps | kate |
| 07:47.05 | Goliath | and failed |
| 07:47.37 | xevious | list it to a file and open that file in kate |
| 07:47.49 | xevious | ls -R /usr/share/apps > file |
| 07:47.52 | xevious | kate file |
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| 07:48.05 | xevious | Goliath: What are you trying to do? |
| 07:48.24 | Goliath | xevious: i want to share the list of apps under my kde menu with a friend |
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| 07:50.06 | xevious | That's not gonna do what you want, then. |
| 07:52.00 | Goliath | it appers to work |
| 07:52.01 | Goliath | thanks |
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| 07:52.09 | Goliath | btw why would pipe to kate work? |
| 07:52.12 | Goliath | or nano |
| 07:52.17 | Goliath | (not) |
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| 07:53.29 | BlueX | which is better, fedora or opensuse? |
| 07:54.14 | Goliath | for kde? |
| 07:54.17 | xevious | Goliath: because those applications are file based, not stream based |
| 07:55.06 | BlueX | yes for kde |
| 07:55.12 | Goliath | mm |
| 07:55.21 | Goliath | fedora has problems |
| 07:55.25 | Goliath | i would pick opensuse |
| 07:55.27 | BlueX | it does? |
| 07:55.30 | BlueX | fedora has bugs? |
| 07:55.34 | Goliath | lot |
| 07:55.37 | BlueX | k thanks |
| 07:55.39 | Goliath | with kde |
| 07:55.46 | Goliath | most people says opensuse is best for kde |
| 07:55.47 | BlueX | like kubuntu basically |
| 07:56.01 | Goliath | BlueX: do you have expertise with linux? |
| 07:57.14 | BlueX | no |
| 07:57.22 | BlueX | I am between beginner and intermediate |
| 07:57.39 | BlueX | but kernel 2.6.31 versions do not support my wireless card well |
| 07:57.52 | Goliath | mm |
| 07:57.56 | Goliath | i use chakra |
| 07:58.02 | Goliath | chakra is a distro based on archlinux |
| 07:58.08 | BlueX | I am awaiting a good version of kenel 2.6.32 |
| 07:58.09 | Goliath | with an easy installer |
| 07:58.14 | Goliath | soemthing like fedora installer |
| 07:58.18 | Goliath | they are bleeding edge |
| 07:58.23 | Goliath | so you can get the new kernel fast |
| 07:58.24 | BlueX | ehh, I'm looking for out of the box |
| 07:58.30 | Goliath | its out of the box |
| 07:58.45 | BlueX | but don't I have to manually install hardware? |
| 07:58.50 | Goliath | no |
| 07:58.56 | Goliath | it has an automatic installer |
| 07:58.59 | Goliath | like ubuntu/fedora |
| 07:59.02 | BlueX | why did you ask my expertise then |
| 07:59.12 | Goliath | cause its a bit harder than ubuntu |
| 07:59.12 | xevious | Goooooo gentoo! |
| 07:59.13 | Goliath | not much |
| 07:59.17 | Goliath | just a bit |
| 07:59.29 | Goliath | arch is more bleeding than gentoo right now |
| 07:59.34 | BlueX | xevious, icky, I tried sabayon, couldn't even load up |
| 07:59.34 | Goliath | cause of its bigger community |
| 07:59.42 | Goliath | sabayon sucks |
| 07:59.59 | BlueX | I tried sidux too, got errors |
| 08:00.07 | Goliath | forget those |
| 08:00.13 | Goliath | google chakra project |
| 08:00.16 | Goliath | and get chakra |
| 08:00.21 | BlueX | that is why I like ubuntu, cause it works, unfortunately its wireless support is not complete |
| 08:00.34 | BlueX | I'm looking for a distro that has the newest drivers for stuff and best detection |
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| 08:01.24 | Goliath | chakra is the most bleeding edge |
| 08:01.30 | Goliath | so you will find most new stuff there |
| 08:01.40 | BlueX | why is it harder than ubuntu? |
| 08:01.47 | Goliath | its like fedora |
| 08:01.52 | Goliath | have you tried fedora? |
| 08:01.54 | BlueX | no |
| 08:02.02 | xevious | Goliath: Haven't gotten around to trying arch yet. |
| 08:02.18 | BlueX | I just noticed that it fedora was towards the top of the distrowatch hit chart |
| 08:02.19 | Goliath | BlueX: anyway there is a livecd |
| 08:02.23 | Goliath | get it and try it |
| 08:02.25 | Goliath | no problems |
| 08:02.41 | Goliath | BlueX: btw chakra has kdemod |
| 08:02.42 | xevious | Goliath: I have had no problems with gentoo on this fileserver for years. |
| 08:02.46 | Goliath | which is kde with some patches |
| 08:02.50 | Goliath | and customizations |
| 08:03.01 | BlueX | so its supposed to be better? |
| 08:03.02 | xevious | Goliath: Fileserver is a vague term in this system's case. |
| 08:03.06 | Goliath | xevious: if you use it carefully i get you wouldnt have |
| 08:03.26 | Goliath | BlueX: maybe |
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| 08:03.45 | Zombie | Hey folks? |
| 08:04.13 | Zombie | Is there going to be a KDE 3.5.12 release to fix build issues on new Distros? |
| 08:05.01 | pinotree | Zombie: no |
| 08:05.50 | Zombie | The thing is, I'm finding more than a few applications that won't build. Like the Tilp drivers. |
| 08:05.57 | Zombie | due to the lack of KDE 3. |
| 08:05.59 | BlueX | does x86_64 mean 64bit? |
| 08:06.03 | Zombie | Yes. |
| 08:06.20 | BlueX | so i686 version is the 32bit one? |
| 08:06.26 | Zombie | Yes. |
| 08:06.29 | BlueX | k thanks |
| 08:07.06 | Zombie | The thing is, lack of Tilp drivers = bad for TI Calculators. |
| 08:07.47 | pinotree | what do tilp drivers have to do with kde? |
| 08:08.27 | Zombie | The Tilp drivers rely on kdelibs3 to provide the interface part of the Sync up drivers. |
| 08:09.13 | Zombie | no kdelibs3 mean no tilp drivers which means no Syncronization with TI calculators. |
| 08:09.29 | pinotree | so they don't need the whole "kde 3.5.x", but just the libraries (which you can install and use in a kde4 environment as well) |
| 08:09.44 | Zombie | devel package. |
| 08:10.14 | pinotree | ...? |
| 08:10.17 | Zombie | And according to Mandriva people, it won't even build anymore in Mandriva 2010.0 |
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| 08:10.56 | BlueX | isn't mandriva like buggy? |
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| 08:11.42 | Zombie | Not usually. |
| 08:11.57 | Zombie | Its generally more stable than alot of distros. |
| 08:12.01 | Zombie | and more conservative. |
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| 08:14.03 | Zombie | I mean, my Arcade Cabinet runs on Mandriva. |
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| 08:14.27 | BlueX | its good for kde? |
| 08:15.50 | Zombie | Mandriva 2010.0 supported KDE 3.5.10 all the way up to 2009.1 |
| 08:16.21 | BlueX | why are there so many friggin choices, I'm basically trying to replace win 7 |
| 08:16.54 | Zombie | I'm moving to 2010.0 because it fixes driver related problems related to WiiMotes and Playstation 3 Controllers. |
| 08:17.10 | BlueX | there's mandriva, opensuse, chakra, kubuntu, it never ends |
| 08:17.18 | BlueX | I just want to know what the best one or two are |
| 08:17.28 | BlueX | for someone who doesn't want to have to mess with it too much |
| 08:18.00 | BlueX | but what I really want is the one with the best wireless driver support |
| 08:18.14 | BlueX | cause no ubuntu derivative supports my wireless right out of the box |
| 08:19.23 | Zombie | The top four are Ubuntu, Mandriva, OpenSuse, and Fedora. |
| 08:19.56 | Zombie | They are the big contenders,. |
| 08:20.05 | Zombie | The others are very small by comparison. |
| 08:20.09 | BlueX | which have the most current drivers or hardware compatibility |
| 08:20.16 | BlueX | and I know that ubuntu does not |
| 08:20.17 | Zombie | Fedora has generally the most buggy. |
| 08:20.34 | Zombie | Mandriva.... I have had very few problems with exotic hardware. |
| 08:20.43 | Zombie | OpenSuse as well. |
| 08:20.57 | BlueX | which one is easier for a beginner? |
| 08:21.14 | BlueX | I mean I know all the basics |
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| 08:21.41 | Zombie | Ubuntu, however for Windows Power Users I have seen Mandriva be less of a headache. |
| 08:21.54 | BlueX | opensuse is hard for a beginner? |
| 08:22.07 | Zombie | A friend of mine configured an entire Windows NT Domain using Mandriva tools/ |
| 08:22.24 | Zombie | Not enough experience |
| 08:22.39 | BlueX | k, all I know is ubuntu doesn't work right with my wireless card |
| 08:22.41 | BlueX | atheros |
| 08:23.36 | Zombie | I don't have any experience with that card. |
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| 08:25.10 | ikrabbe | hi, its ages ago that I tried to tune my weather plasmoid, but I can only find National american weather. BBC weather doesn't seem to work. How can I debug the stream/URL the weather applet uses? |
| 08:25.59 | ikrabbe | or where are the plasmoids configured (text file based) |
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| 08:30.58 | ikrabbe | and how can I find out which .kde/.kde4 directory is used?= |
| 08:33.11 | BlueX | zombie? |
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| 08:33.32 | Zombie | I've notWhat? |
| 08:33.36 | Zombie | What? |
| 08:34.22 | BlueX | I was going to say, so mandriva and opensuse are like the windows of corporate level linux? |
| 08:34.46 | Zombie | Kinda. Mandriva includes alot of custom tools they made themselves. |
| 08:34.47 | BlueX | I mean they are like the *major* distributions |
| 08:34.52 | Zombie | Yse. |
| 08:34.54 | Zombie | Yes. |
| 08:35.01 | BlueX | and fedora also but its buggy |
| 08:35.14 | Zombie | The "Corporate" version of Fedora is RedHat Enterprise Linux. |
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| 08:35.35 | BlueX | k, when I install them in there own partitions, grub will end up seeing all of them? |
| 08:35.49 | Zombie | I.. . guess? |
| 08:35.49 | BlueX | I just meant major distributions |
| 08:36.11 | BlueX | does mandriva use grub 2? |
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| 08:37.06 | Zombie | I think 2010 does. Not sure. |
| 08:37.22 | BlueX | I'd actually prefer grub 1 |
| 08:37.36 | BlueX | anyway, I'll try them out myself |
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| 08:56.48 | mounter | does anyone here use kde with arch? |
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| 09:06.42 | CrummyGummy | Hiya, any ideas where knetworkmanager is started from? I need to get it to startup before the session resumes. Not during. |
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| 09:52.30 | thealex | is there a way in dolphin to have the cursor jump to the "contents" of the directory instead of to the "filter" at the bottom? that way i can immediatly start using arrow up/down to navigate |
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| 09:58.54 | mounter | sudo ls -AR /usr/share/apps > /home/shockrates/list |
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| 10:00.16 | Jucato | ... |
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| 10:01.07 | Jucato | thealex: I think the only way is to disable showing the filter bar at startup (you can still manually show/hide it using Ctrl+I) |
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| 10:03.44 | thealex | Jucato, ok thanks |
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| 10:11.15 | thealex | i have unchecked "grouping" of windows on the taskbar, but it seems the taskbar does not function in a chronological fashion anymore? it still seems to group programs together, although not in a single icon. is there a way to restore the "chronological" order of the windows, ie they appear on the taskbar in the order that they were opened? |
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| 10:13.58 | Jucato | thealex: that's the Sorting option, not Grouping. set it to Do not sort. But there's a bug at the moment: if you switch to another virtual desktop and then switch back, taskbar items are rearranged |
| 10:14.18 | thealex | Jucato, ah ok thanks |
| 10:14.53 | thealex | Jucato, works like a charm! :> |
| 10:14.54 | Jucato | or are you talking about "Only show tasks from the current desktop"? |
| 10:14.57 | Jucato | ah ok |
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| 11:01.33 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 11:01.37 | rindolf | I have a few question about KDE. |
| 11:02.12 | rindolf | 1. In KMail of KDE-4.4.x - how do I cancel the rendering of /asdasd/ into italics, *...* into bold, etc.? |
| 11:02.22 | rindolf | It uses it for path names etc. which I don't like. |
| 11:02.30 | rindolf | I've asked it many times before, and got no reply. |
| 11:02.35 | rindolf | Should I file a bug about it. |
| 11:02.46 | rindolf | Because I cannot find it anywhere in the configuration dialogues. |
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| 11:03.46 | rindolf | Question No. 2: when KDE 4 starts up, it brings with it a lot of stupid programs in the last session. How can I reset the KDE session? |
| 11:04.34 | pinotree | 2. system settings → advanced → session handling |
| 11:05.05 | rindolf | pinotree: thanks. |
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| 11:07.42 | rindolf | pinotree: OK, I saved the session. |
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| 11:11.44 | Debolaz_ | I need someone who has a recent version of KDE and uses Kopete with MSN. |
| 11:11.55 | Debolaz_ | No work involved, I just need to test something. |
| 11:12.25 | pinotree | don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 11:12.50 | Debolaz_ | I really don't have a question, I literally just need someone so I can check if a bug exist on their system. |
| 11:13.50 | pinotree | yeah, just tell what to do |
| 11:13.57 | pinotree | if somebody can do that, they will do |
| 11:14.22 | Debolaz_ | Well, I need the MSN address so I can add them. That's pretty much it. |
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| 11:17.22 | Debolaz_ | ponders just faking the KDE version in the bug report. |
| 11:19.57 | rindolf | Debolaz_: OK, let me see. |
| 11:20.06 | rindolf | Debolaz_: I have KDE-4.4.-beta. |
| 11:20.20 | Debolaz_ | rindolf: That should do. |
| 11:20.25 | rindolf | From Mandriva Cooker. |
| 11:20.29 | rindolf | Debolaz_: my MSN is shlomif@iglu.org.il |
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| 11:42.10 | penta | hey, anyone alive? |
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| 11:47.40 | rindolf | Hi penta |
| 11:47.46 | rindolf | penta: I am. |
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| 11:49.22 | penta | rindolf hi we talk before... ;) perhaps you use somewhen xdmcp, its remote kde management looks like lirc.... |
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| 11:50.30 | rindolf | penta: what? |
| 11:50.49 | rindolf | penta: WDYM? |
| 11:53.11 | penta | rindolf mean about what? |
| 11:53.18 | penta | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:54.26 | rindolf | penta: I don't understand your English. |
| 11:54.44 | MynameisHame | hmm, anyone know a really good virtual machine program |
| 11:54.59 | brot | MynameisHame: virtualbox :) |
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| 11:55.12 | alesan | hi |
| 11:55.25 | MynameisHame | ahh that was it |
| 11:55.26 | MynameisHame | cheers brot |
| 11:56.17 | alesan | how do I modify the file type assignments? for example I want to assign jpegs to gqview |
| 11:56.17 | brot | no problem :) |
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| 12:23.55 | booboo | hey guys... on kde...how to I change the military time on digital clock to 12 hour? |
| 12:25.00 | Jucato | coz_: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Time & Date tab |
| 12:25.22 | coz_ | Jucato, thanks I appreciate it :) |
| 12:25.26 | Jucato | it will take effect when the desktop is restarted (like logging out and logging back in) |
| 12:25.34 | coz_ | cool :) |
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| 12:37.47 | cweiske | Hi. I am trying to use kwalletd and kwalletmanager 4.3.3 on my XFCE gentoo box. kwalletmanager runs fine but displays "org.kde.kwalletd was not provided by any service file". trying to run kwalletd manually fails with a 255 exit code. what can I do? |
| 12:39.29 | rindolf | Why is KDE so slow here? |
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| 12:40.07 | rindolf | After I started using DRI with my ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro card with the radeon/video-ati driver , it seems like everything is slower. |
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| 12:47.17 | quarkup | hello there |
| 12:47.37 | quarkup | is there someone using google earth ? |
| 12:47.42 | quarkup | i have a strange bug |
| 12:47.48 | quarkup | it is described here |
| 12:47.50 | quarkup | http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=85442 |
| 12:48.10 | quarkup | reinstalling it does not fix the issue and even cleaning the data files will not help. |
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| 12:50.28 | annma | this is #kde |
| 12:51.50 | alesan | how do I tell KDE to open jpeg files with a given application? KDE3.x had the "file type association" menu or similar |
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| 12:51.54 | alesan | I cannot find the same for KDE4 |
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| 12:54.12 | quarkup | well i know how to solve it |
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| 12:54.52 | quarkup | im using a theme which somehow does not allow google earth to display correctly the GUI |
| 12:54.55 | quarkup | thanks anyway |
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| 12:57.56 | cghislai | hi there |
| 12:59.58 | cghislai | trying to port qoundkonverter to kde 4, qt 4.6, i see that struct-in-struct does not seems to be accepted by kdevelop |
| 13:00.52 | cghislai | by struct-in-struct, i mean smth like 'struct Main { struct Item { int itemInt; { item ; } main; |
| 13:01.07 | cghislai | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:02.20 | cghislai | kdevelop says 'Declaration not found'. Is there some trick the some code likely used? |
| 13:02.29 | cghislai | s/some/old/ |
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| 13:05.41 | quarkup | how can I do for kde to use a different theme for a single application ??? |
| 13:06.41 | annma_ | declaration not found where? |
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| 13:10.07 | annma | cghislai: kdevelop does not say anything |
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| 13:14.54 | cghislai | annma: problem in Semantic analysis |
| 13:15.12 | cghislai | declaration not found: Item |
| 13:16.43 | annma | cghislai: gcc says that? |
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| 13:17.33 | cghislai | annma: dunno, its in the 'problems' tabs and underlined in yellow |
| 13:17.58 | pinotree | cghislai: ask in #kdevelop |
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| 13:31.33 | ddoright | Are custom keyboard shortcuts in KDE4.2.4 broken? |
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| 13:42.15 | hyper_ch | hmmm, in kde 4.3.4 I sometimes lose my wifi connection with the network-manager-plasma-widget... and then it won't reconnect at all. How can I restart those network services completely? I tried to turn wifi of and back on with the plasma widget, but that didn't help. It didn't even try to reconnect anymore. The only thing I can do is reboot the computer |
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| 13:42.56 | The_User | hyper_ch: anythink like /etc/(init|rc).d/network restart |
| 13:42.58 | The_User | ? |
| 13:43.23 | hyper_ch | The_User: that does not help and neither does /etc/init.d/network-manager restart |
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| 13:44.43 | khyron | alguem do brasil?? |
| 13:44.53 | hyper_ch | !br |
| 13:45.06 | khyron | vc e br? |
| 13:45.22 | annma | nao |
| 13:45.22 | khyron | ahh |
| 13:45.23 | khyron | ok |
| 13:45.35 | annma | there's a kde channel for brazil though |
| 13:46.26 | annma | #kde-brasil |
| 13:46.28 | khyron | ok sorry |
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| 14:23.50 | garrettk | I keep getting an error with kontact trying to start the Akonadi server: Akonadi server process not registered at D-Bus. How do I address this? |
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| 14:39.44 | motown | good evening, for the first time plasma is crashed http://pastebin.org/66394 and i don't know why :( |
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| 14:41.49 | annma | yu need to add debug packages to get a better backtrace |
| 14:41.56 | annma | what kde version is this |
| 14:42.25 | annma | motown: ^^? |
| 14:42.43 | motown | annma: im new and i dont know what debug means, just wanna report a problem that i have |
| 14:42.53 | annma | what kde version is this |
| 14:42.55 | motown | 4.3.4 kubuntu karmic |
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| 14:43.24 | annma | ask your distro about debug packages |
| 14:43.28 | annma | #kubuntu |
| 14:43.44 | annma | also: do not report crashes in IRC but on bugs.kde.org |
| 14:44.59 | motown | im waiting for reply from #kubuntu |
| 14:45.12 | motown | ok boss, no more bugs post |
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| 14:46.13 | annma | ;) |
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| 14:55.07 | cibaer | I have a problem with switching automatically between intern and usb soundcards |
| 14:55.41 | cibaer | for pulseaudio there is an alsa-plugin that redirects all things going to also to pulseaudio |
| 14:55.52 | cibaer | would it be possible to implement such a thing for phonon? |
| 14:56.13 | cibaer | because most applications does not use phonon |
| 14:56.38 | cibaer | and so do not automatically react on (un)plug my primary soundcard |
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| 15:17.16 | rindolf | KMail crashed and now the KDE Crash handler is hanging on a file save. |
| 15:17.16 | rindolf | WTF? |
| 15:18.49 | rindolf | And Plasma is leaving many zombie entries in the task bar of application that got closed. |
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| 15:33.09 | bipolar | I'm trying to use kwriteconfig to set a users signature. I know that \n is used to represent a newline, but when I try to set it to 'line one\nline two' the config file gets 'line one\\nline two'. Is there some special escape sequence I can use to get around this? |
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| 15:37.08 | bipolar | nm. I got it. |
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| 15:48.48 | Zorael | 4.4b1 bugs should still be filed at bko, right? |
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| 15:50.16 | pinotree | better wait for beta2 (which is due in very few days) |
| 15:50.40 | Zorael | ah, okay |
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| 16:28.43 | jelly | Hi, can konsole have tabs in multiple (> 1) rows? |
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| 16:35.05 | bulent | any body knows how to copy file to a folder |
| 16:35.19 | Kwpolska | rotfl |
| 16:36.05 | Mamarok | bulent: in a terminal or with a GUI? |
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| 16:42.15 | rvalles | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=10769&sid=2bbf124fc29b2aad168ef57f98fa9e8c |
| 16:42.23 | rvalles | is there a less ugly way to attain this? |
| 16:43.17 | rvalles | eg: if I have firefox in desktop 2 and click an url on 3, I don't want firefox moved to 3... and if I have it in 4, I don't want it moved to 3 either. |
| 16:43.55 | pinotree | rvalles: that's a firefox issue, which sends to the window manager a message like "important", so upon activation it gets moved |
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| 16:44.02 | pinotree | mgraesslin: ↑ |
| 16:44.32 | mgraesslin | yes Firefox issue |
| 16:44.40 | rvalles | ok |
| 16:44.45 | mgraesslin | Firefox ignores everything related to window management |
| 16:44.56 | rvalles | so, any way to tell the wm to not move windows on "important"? |
| 16:45.19 | mgraesslin | I think you can change the behaviour in about:config in Firefox |
| 16:45.21 | rvalles | important or not, I want stuff to stay where I left them no matter what. |
| 16:45.43 | mgraesslin | or create a window specific rule for Firefox and force it on a desktop |
| 16:46.00 | mgraesslin | I do that with Konqueror - forcing it on all desktops |
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| 16:53.04 | Half-Left | rvalles: That's why a pre-set window option is set by some distros for FIrefox |
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| 16:53.45 | Half-Left | Just like Chrome has it's own window management |
| 16:54.18 | opeth2000 | Hello. Can anyone hint for what might be the reason that the two weather plasmoids don't work on my PC, but work on my laptop? Both are Debian sid, KDE 4.3. Searching for a city on the desktop silently fails (the search button does nothing). Ocassionally, it gives an error "Cannot find bbcukmet|validate|Sofia" |
| 16:55.26 | annma | all are set to use BBC? |
| 16:55.38 | opeth2000 | yes |
| 16:55.39 | annma | BBC changed the API so 4.3 stuff broke |
| 16:55.52 | annma | so I am surprised it works on some |
| 16:55.57 | Kwpolska | what i need to do to add polish weather/ |
| 16:55.58 | opeth2000 | If I switch to something other than BBC, it still doesn't do anything |
| 16:56.27 | opeth2000 | hm, it could be this, the weather plasmoid on my laptop was configured months ago |
| 16:56.48 | annma | environment canada should work though |
| 16:58.45 | opeth2000 | The same with this one. It gives Cannot find 'envcan|validate|Sofia'. |
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| 16:59.08 | opeth2000 | But that's only for Canada? |
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| 16:59.34 | opeth2000 | I'll try with some canadian city |
| 17:00.47 | opeth2000 | Cannot find 'envcan|validate|Toronto'. |
| 17:01.43 | Kwpolska | have any error? |
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| 17:09.00 | maginot | hi ... kmdr-executor comes from which package? |
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| 17:12.44 | ponto | Hi, I have several big konsole.....tmp files in /tmp/kde-ponto why are they not deleted by konsole? |
| 17:12.59 | bulent | oh i am new bi |
| 17:13.10 | ponto | 7.2 Gi |
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| 17:14.52 | szal | bulent: if you don't have an answer, then don't answer :P |
| 17:15.03 | bulent | ok |
| 17:15.13 | bulent | how i can install flash |
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| 17:16.49 | szal | bulent: that's definitely not a KDE question -> read the topic & ask in your distro's channel |
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| 17:19.35 | bakarat | for some reason, after a small update in kubuntu 9.10, hibernate has stopped working, when i press hibernate it says that the screen is "locked". then it proceeds anyway, the screen goes black, but the computer stays on, i have to power down manually at that point, a reboot does not "wake up" the computer, it really reboots |
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| 17:20.15 | Kwpolska | bakarat: what are you saing for |
| 17:20.51 | bakarat | saing = ? |
| 17:20.58 | Kwpolska | saying* |
| 17:21.15 | Kwpolska | bakarat: i see. I have ever using lancelot. |
| 17:21.25 | Kwpolska | i'll test it. |
| 17:21.40 | bakarat | ok, though i do not immediatly see how lancelot is connected to hibernate? |
| 17:24.17 | Kwpolska|away | ok. |
| 17:24.38 | szal | bakarat: please ask in #kubuntu |
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| 17:27.25 | Kwpolska | bakarat: ok. |
| 17:27.47 | Kwpolska | bakarat: the only one problem that i'd got that is i needed to pin wifi usb card in another place. |
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| 17:29.06 | Kwpolska | have enough swap size? |
| 17:29.32 | Kwpolska | and firefox needed to be restarted |
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| 17:30.37 | bakarat | all should be fine |
| 17:30.42 | bakarat | the computer has also been working for more then a year |
| 17:30.46 | bakarat | just latest update broke something |
| 17:31.07 | Kwpolska | lancelot works fine |
| 17:31.13 | Kwpolska | better than kickoff |
| 17:31.32 | Kwpolska | try from lancelot (defaultly installed in kubuntu) |
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| 17:32.08 | zelda_ | konquero on google search the combobox when you open and select with the key down skips every two words |
| 17:32.37 | Kwpolska | zelda_: you mean the konqueror search box? |
| 17:33.04 | zelda_ | no |
| 17:33.16 | zelda_ | google search box |
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| 18:13.41 | Animeking | Hey, how do I Install themes manually :/ |
| 18:15.38 | szal | by following the instructions that come w/ the package |
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| 18:43.27 | klebezettel | hi; isn't there a history for dolphin? |
| 18:44.58 | quarkup | once upon a time... |
| 18:45.33 | klebezettel | quarkup: a faq? ;) |
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| 18:52.27 | quarkup | klebezettel: what do you really want from dolphin ? |
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| 18:53.34 | Sho_ | klebezettel: ask more specifically, maybe we can help |
| 18:53.36 | klebezettel | quarkup: a location I was some minutes ago |
| 18:53.49 | Sho_ | ah |
| 18:53.55 | quarkup | press backspace :p |
| 18:53.58 | Sho_ | no, no history aside from the back button |
| 18:54.02 | quarkup | or hit the <- |
| 18:54.04 | quarkup | ah |
| 18:54.06 | quarkup | that |
| 18:54.19 | Sho_ | (and go -> recently closed tabs) |
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| 18:55.14 | quarkup | klebezettel: i cant find a "history panel" |
| 18:55.17 | quarkup | indeed |
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| 18:55.55 | klebezettel | I'm aware of the back buttons, thanks...but I was looking for a list of entries of visited locations...something I expected in the Go menu (as in konqueror?) |
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| 19:04.12 | rvalles | about the firefox changing desktops problem earlier: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388664 |
| 19:04.18 | rvalles | they're at least aware of it. |
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| 19:27.22 | Dhraakellian | so I do alt+F2 rockbox.org/recent.shtml#svn |
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| 19:27.31 | Dhraakellian | and it takes me to http://www.rockbox.org/recent.shtml%23svn |
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| 20:04.44 | medi | FC12...messed around with removing panels...I lost my system tray...how do I get it back |
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| 20:05.56 | orcan | say bye bye panels |
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| 20:06.29 | orcan | :) you can click on the cashew and add the panel plasmoid |
| 20:06.59 | medi | I added a panel...but it is blank |
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| 20:07.51 | orcan | then fill in the blanks |
| 20:08.18 | medi | how ....do I add widgets ? |
| 20:08.20 | orcan | it's kde you can customize it whatever way you want |
| 20:08.34 | medi | how about just getting the old one back |
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| 20:08.50 | medi | can someone give me a file with all the settings in ti |
| 20:08.53 | medi | in it |
| 20:08.53 | orcan | cashew->add widget-> drag whatever you want to the panel, or to the desktop |
| 20:10.00 | orcan | I have no idea how the default panel looks like. I always have it customized heavily. |
| 20:10.41 | medi | is this stuff placed into a file somewhere under KDEHOME |
| 20:11.25 | medi | perhaps ~/.kde/share/config |
| 20:11.33 | orcan | yes should be somewhere in ~/.kde/share/apps/ or ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 20:12.27 | medi | how do I add an icon to a panel...something homemade |
| 20:12.28 | orcan | just rename the plasma files there and logout/relogin I guess. The default ones will be placed. |
| 20:12.39 | orcan | drag it in? |
| 20:13.11 | medi | you mean from the list of All Widgets" drag one in |
| 20:13.25 | medi | but for example I want to have an icon for an xterm |
| 20:13.36 | medi | that there is no such thing at this point..hence home made |
| 20:13.40 | orcan | where is the icon? you may be able drag it in from dolphin. I'm not sure tho |
| 20:13.56 | medi | who is dolphin |
| 20:14.00 | medi | who is inventing these terms |
| 20:14.47 | orcan | dolphin is file manager. Probably the dolphin author invented the name. |
| 20:15.25 | medi | oh....but at this point all I have is a blue screen no dolphin or shark or anythin |
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| 20:15.39 | annma | only the sea then? |
| 20:15.48 | medi | true |
| 20:15.55 | medi | I love this computer science stuff |
| 20:16.00 | annma | hehe |
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| 20:16.01 | medi | just make it up as we go |
| 20:16.38 | medi | ok...thanks for now |
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| 20:16.47 | annma | just dive in it |
| 20:16.58 | orcan | medi: click on cashew-> add widget -> drag the application launcher to your new blank panel |
| 20:16.59 | medi | ok |
| 20:17.02 | Half-Left | Swim in the sea of files :p |
| 20:17.06 | annma | lol |
| 20:17.25 | annma | there's also the fish protocole |
| 20:17.51 | orcan | yeah medi. you need to obey the fish protocol |
| 20:17.53 | medi | was this guy who invented these born in Feb or something |
| 20:18.01 | medi | or is he/she from Florida |
| 20:18.09 | medi | I like fish and see |
| 20:18.14 | Half-Left | Why, what's the problem? |
| 20:18.35 | annma | medi: giving a name to a free software is not easy in fact |
| 20:18.40 | medi | well....you'd think that name of something should be close to its functionality |
| 20:18.43 | annma | with TM and all |
| 20:18.52 | Half-Left | What, like Snow leopard? |
| 20:18.59 | annma | lol |
| 20:19.00 | Half-Left | What does a Snow Leopard do? |
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| 20:19.09 | Half-Left | What does a leopard do? |
| 20:19.13 | annma | or Chrome |
| 20:19.23 | Raydiation | wow, when did kpatience get those awesome effects? |
| 20:19.41 | Raydiation | looks and works imho better than the win vista/7 counterpart |
| 20:19.45 | Half-Left | Raydiation: Lots of work on that yes |
| 20:19.46 | medi | anyways....I am out of here...maybe after a cheesburger I feel better |
| 20:20.06 | annma | do not drink too much water though |
| 20:20.07 | medi | I don't even know what time it is....my clock is gone too |
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| 20:20.25 | medi | no....I am a pepsi man myself |
| 20:20.42 | medi | why should I take a healthy body to grave |
| 20:20.50 | medi | I will damage it before I am done with it |
| 20:21.15 | medi | later guys....been fun |
| 20:22.19 | Raydiation | btw, what about integration of kuser and kde printer config into system settings? |
| 20:22.49 | Raydiation | they dont need a rewrite, they should just be launchable from the system settings and not system programs |
| 20:22.58 | Raydiation | kinda confused me a lot |
| 20:23.24 | Half-Left | In 4.3 the printer settings do |
| 20:24.13 | Raydiation | i hope im able to switch to kde in 4.4 |
| 20:24.27 | Raydiation | i just need these little things to be in order :P |
| 20:27.53 | Half-Left | And if they are not? |
| 20:28.11 | ghostcube | he does kill the pc |
| 20:28.15 | ghostcube | o.o |
| 20:28.55 | Half-Left | It's just a case of adjusting your workflow a bit |
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| 20:42.11 | Raydiation | Half-Left: ill go crazy and install ubuntu |
| 20:42.32 | Half-Left | Oh dear |
| 20:42.50 | Half-Left | Back to the 90's |
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| 20:48.15 | ghostcube | ehm you want to change nice Qt to ugly gtk :P |
| 20:48.20 | ghostcube | bah |
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| 20:48.24 | ghostcube | shame on you |
| 20:49.02 | ghostcube | hmm i have a strange thing on beta 1 is this the right place to ask too ?` |
| 20:49.42 | ghostcube | hmm or is the systray miniprogram better asked in plasma ? |
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| 21:34.07 | cibaer | its not possible to set wallpaper from gwenview/dolphin/.. anymore |
| 21:34.16 | cibaer | is there not dbus action for this? |
| 21:34.57 | sreich | I think there is a service menuf or it |
| 21:36.06 | cibaer | no, show me one |
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| 21:39.04 | cibaer | there even seems to be no dbus interface for this action yet |
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| 22:03.01 | reagleBRKLN | i have trouble snagging corner of KDE windows for resize, is there a way to make that larger? |
| 22:03.46 | acidtripper | someone there know howto have trasparent background when loggin out or shutdown dialog? |
| 22:04.20 | acidtripper | couse has black background, and i'll like to see desktop when that dialog |
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| 22:06.06 | reagleBRKLN | what is the resize corner even called? |
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| 22:10.44 | sreich | reagleBRKLN: you mean any 4 of the corners of a window? |
| 22:10.52 | sreich | there isn't just 1 corner like on macos.. |
| 22:13.11 | thiago | reagleBRKLN: alt + right-drag |
| 22:13.15 | thiago | easier to resize like that |
| 22:13.27 | sreich | yeah, I like the alt+.. modifiers a lot more |
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| 22:15.52 | reagleBRKLN | thiago: I agree, but sometimes that's awkward too and sometimes when I use a GTK app or something, there resize activation is huge and it feels wonderful |
| 22:16.17 | reagleBRKLN | so i thought maybe it's configurable |
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| 22:25.41 | djustice | hey. um. i have a little wallpaper plugin i made this wkend. but its less than efficient code surely. but im using it now :) anybody bored folks wanna check it out? it moves the (enlarged) wallpaper on mouse drag. for the immersion effect. 'moving scene' |
| 22:26.19 | thiago | probably ask in #plasma |
| 22:26.43 | djustice | thiago: thx :) |
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| 23:11.31 | djustice | ugh finally! kdesdk checkout! ive missed u so... what with your awesome kate plugins... and shiny svn kioslave... and kompare!!zomggg.... *sniff* |
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| 23:11.56 | Rasi | hmm.. cant i associate a global hotkey to a command like "mpc volume -5" ? |
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| 23:12.12 | Rasi | does nothing |
| 23:12.18 | Rasi | i have to put it in a script for it to work |
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| 23:13.31 | same | hi |
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| 23:13.41 | same | i try to compile kde3 for fedora 12 |
| 23:13.53 | same | i have a problem with kcontrol |
| 23:14.00 | same | i can't see any module |
| 23:14.28 | pinotree | try running `kbuildsycoca --nonincremental` |
| 23:14.33 | same | "kcmshell --list" show empty list |
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| 23:14.46 | same | kbuildsycoca do not solve the problem |
| 23:15.11 | same | seems that kbuildsycoca do not scan something |
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| 23:19.20 | same | i tried with /var/tmp/kdecache-user/ksycoca from another machine, with kde3 |
| 23:19.35 | same | in this case kcmshell show me the list |
| 23:20.27 | pinotree | did you set any envvars? |
| 23:20.51 | same | what kind of vars |
| 23:21.18 | same | kbuildsycoca can be traced somehow? |
| 23:21.24 | pinotree | KDEDIRS, LD_LIBRARY_PATH, PATH for example |
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| 23:21.46 | same | nope, i leave it default |
| 23:22.07 | pinotree | which prefix you installed kde3 in? |
| 23:22.12 | same | echo $KDEDIRS |
| 23:22.20 | same | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.39 | same | i tried with strace |
| 23:22.54 | same | but strace flood me with lot and useless info |
| 23:23.18 | pinotree | simpler, run kdebugdialog and activate the areas 7011, 7012 and 0 |
| 23:23.36 | pinotree | then rerun kbuildsycoca --noincremental, and paste in a pastebin its output |
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| 23:24.18 | Goliath | do you approve kdemods work? |
| 23:24.25 | same | unfortunately, fedora come only with kdebugdialog4 |
| 23:24.26 | pinotree | ? |
| 23:24.44 | pinotree | same: kdebugdialog is installed as part of kdebase |
| 23:24.59 | same | fedora12 come with partial kdelibs3 and kdebase3 |
| 23:25.07 | same | and i try to use it as is |
| 23:25.22 | pinotree | didn't you say you are compiling it on your own? |
| 23:25.27 | sreich | Goliath: "approve" why does it matter? |
| 23:25.35 | same | i try to "complete" kdebase |
| 23:25.44 | pinotree | uh? |
| 23:25.45 | same | i have a minimal kdebase3 |
| 23:26.00 | pinotree | i assumed you picked the sources and just compiled it as is |
| 23:26.01 | same | and i want to complete it with kwin, kcontrol, kicker, etc |
| 23:26.17 | same | nope |
| 23:26.26 | same | i can't set a envvar to activate debug? |
| 23:26.33 | pinotree | no |
| 23:27.00 | same | hmm, in this case i need to compile kdebugdialog too :) |
| 23:27.03 | sreich | pinotree: aren't there *many* problems with compiling kde3 on newer systems? |
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| 23:27.07 | sreich | e.g. new gcc, etc. |
| 23:27.12 | same | nope |
| 23:27.20 | pinotree | same: but really, if you want kwin, kcontrol, kicker, etc, you would better compile kdebase (the source) as it is, instead of some stripped version |
| 23:27.20 | same | just some compile problems |
| 23:27.42 | pinotree | also, keep in ming that installing in /usr you could overwrite kde4 stuff |
| 23:27.45 | pinotree | *mind |
| 23:27.46 | same | actually, i already compiled kicker, kdesktop and konsole |
| 23:28.02 | same | sure, i try to avoid conflicts |
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| 23:29.27 | same | i do not want to compile kdebase from scratch to avoid conflicts with system libraries |
| 23:29.58 | same | kde3 development is stopped completly? |
| 23:30.10 | pinotree | at least 3/4 of kdebase/kde3 conflict with some kde4 parts, when both are in the same prefix |
| 23:30.23 | pinotree | mostly, yes |
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| 23:30.27 | sreich | yes, from kde's end of things |
| 23:30.32 | same | i know, i suffix the files with number "3" when is needed |
| 23:30.42 | pinotree | ? |
| 23:30.59 | same | for example, i have konsole3, klipper3, etc |
| 23:31.27 | bulent | i need help |
| 23:31.53 | bulent | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:32.05 | same | hehe |
| 23:32.10 | same | this is private ip |
| 23:32.13 | bulent | same |
| 23:32.18 | bulent | is it working |
| 23:32.24 | bulent | yes my ip |
| 23:32.39 | same | this ip can't be reached from internt |
| 23:32.42 | same | internet |
| 23:32.43 | bulent | i wanna see if my server working |
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| 23:32.49 | same | you can;t |
| 23:32.55 | bulent | realy |
| 23:32.57 | pinotree | bulent: 192.168.x.x is a *private* class of IP addresses |
| 23:33.11 | bulent | yeah but my original ip |
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| 23:33.18 | pinotree | no |
| 23:33.18 | bulent | 78.188.15.251 |
| 23:33.34 | bulent | but from my side |
| 23:33.49 | bulent | this one works 192.168.1.2 |
| 23:33.52 | same | i guess you need portforwading |
| 23:34.11 | bulent | in apache conf document |
| 23:34.17 | same | you have a router in from of server? |
| 23:34.22 | bulent | my port is 80 |
| 23:34.22 | same | front* |
| 23:34.33 | bulent | yes modem |
| 23:34.38 | bulent | router sorry |
| 23:34.44 | same | set a portorwading |
| 23:34.45 | alienBOB | I fail to see the KDE relevance ? |
| 23:35.01 | bulent | apache server on kde |
| 23:35.05 | same | hehe |
| 23:35.12 | alienBOB | O my |
| 23:35.16 | same | on top of linux actually |
| 23:35.23 | bulent | thats right |
| 23:35.25 | same | kde is desktop environment |
| 23:35.27 | bulent | not on top |
| 23:35.29 | bulent | beside |
| 23:35.37 | alienBOB | O...my... |
| 23:36.04 | same | however, you can't reach a private ip from internet, at least without portforwarding |
| 23:36.08 | pinotree | bulent: can you please ask in ##linux, given it has nothing to do with kde? |
| 23:36.26 | bulent | ok |
| 23:36.43 | bulent | hi everyone |
| 23:36.52 | pinotree | (still in #kde...) |
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| 23:43.13 | same | actually i do not like kde4 because Plasma |
| 23:43.28 | same | is any chance to port kdesktop and kicker to kde4? |
| 23:43.50 | sreich | no, likely not |
| 23:43.59 | sreich | why do you not like Plasma? |
| 23:44.10 | same | i have no ideea :) |
| 23:44.30 | sreich | kicker & kdesktop was obsoleted because of it's difficulty to maintain, and the fact that it was technologically outdated |
| 23:45.16 | same | i see |
| 23:45.29 | same | for me Plasma looks too strange |
| 23:45.33 | same | like Vista :) |
| 23:45.51 | pinotree | loves the nonsense comparisons |
| 23:45.56 | same | hehe |
| 23:46.08 | same | of course, i can change the theme |
| 23:47.00 | same | even konsole looking strange |
| 23:47.07 | same | i feel it slow |
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| 23:48.33 | same | i use kde from 1.1, but transition from kde3 to kde4 seems too radical |
| 23:49.05 | same | i tried gnome, but is ugly :) |
| 23:52.18 | same | so, i compiled kdebugdialog |
| 23:52.25 | same | kbuildsycoca is checked |
| 23:52.43 | same | kbuildsycoca |
| 23:52.43 | same | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 23:52.43 | same | Reusing existing ksycoca |
| 23:52.47 | same | that's all |
| 23:52.58 | pinotree | with --noincremental? |
| 23:53.28 | same | kbuildsycoca --noincremental |
| 23:53.29 | same | kbuildsycoca running... |
| 23:53.37 | same | still mute |
| 23:53.48 | same | i hate it :) |
| 23:54.21 | djustice | lol :) |
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| 23:57.00 | same | if i strace it, what i need to check? |
| 23:57.01 | kriko | how can I embed device plasmoid into systray (4.4 beta)? |
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