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00:03.32 | roam | _Groo_: do I need both prepends? |
00:04.30 | _Groo_ | roam: lol, no its just one |
00:04.34 | _Groo_ | roam: my mistake sorry |
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00:09.03 | roam | _Groo_: it should work for dhcp, but mine is a pppd connection |
00:10.11 | _Groo_ | roam: ppp over ethernet? pppoe? |
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00:11.00 | roam | no, plain ppp |
00:11.08 | _Groo_ | roam: hmmm |
00:11.25 | _Groo_ | roam: use kppp and add the nameservers to manual config |
00:11.33 | _Groo_ | roam: or add them to the ppp.cfg file |
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00:57.11 | _spm_Draget | Could it be that smb4k-0.10.4 crashes with an empty /etc/samba/smb.conf ? |
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01:33.50 | ryrych | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q83D5cyayBs what do you think about it? |
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02:32.55 | oneforall | hmm weird why is it I see download photos when I stick in a movie dvd :) |
02:33.27 | oneforall | or that not a sensor type , but just a hard wired selction |
02:33.35 | oneforall | selection* |
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03:13.47 | Wei | hmm question, can someone recommend a good podcast client for KDE/qt? |
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03:15.26 | sreich | oh.. |
03:15.30 | sreich | let me think of the name... |
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03:15.35 | sreich | meebo |
03:15.45 | sreich | damnit, wrong name. |
03:15.56 | Wei | is it miro? |
03:16.08 | sreich | miro, that's it |
03:16.37 | Wei | compared to amarok, which one is better? |
03:16.57 | sreich | not sure if miro is actually written in qt...but it's opensource ;) |
03:17.12 | mschiff | in 4.3.85: I set the desktop formfactor to "Netbook" one time. As it seems ist not possible to revert that setting anymore. Any hints? |
03:17.15 | sreich | I don't know, I have only used podcasts a bit with miro |
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03:17.33 | sreich | mschiff: systemsettings->... |
03:17.54 | mschiff | sreich: yeah, you can set it back there but it does not work |
03:17.56 | sreich | desktop->workspace |
03:17.59 | sreich | "form factor" |
03:18.14 | sreich | oh really? |
03:18.27 | mschiff | sreich: Everytime I open that again its still "Netbook" |
03:18.45 | mschiff | And my desktop is alway in netbook style when I login... |
03:19.30 | mschiff | sometimes plasma-netbook crashes when I switch to plasma-desktop with th effect that plasma-netbook gets restarted and both are running then at the same time... |
03:19.34 | sreich | you just *had* to try it out, didn't you ;-) |
03:19.41 | mschiff | sreich: yes ;) |
03:19.44 | judgen | wow kde4windows is awsome! |
03:21.16 | mschiff | sreich: any idea of how switch back? I tried to set any formfactor value to 0 in $KDEDIR/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc but that did not work |
03:21.38 | sreich | no, sorry |
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03:23.40 | Sadrolla | hi i get *.crx files from http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811 but can not installed it |
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03:26.30 | fosstux | Hi! What is the difference between Show Desktop and Show Widget Dashboard? |
03:26.59 | oneforall | err konq file mode where is the option for middle click a link and it opens in a new tab ? looking in general and not seeing it |
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03:28.43 | Sadrolla | hi i get *.crx files from http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811 but can not installed it |
03:30.37 | Sadrolla | I got files from this address http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811But I do not know what to install |
03:31.09 | Sadrolla | I got files from this address http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811 But I do not know what to install |
03:32.41 | Sadrolla | I got files from this address http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811 But I do not know what to install |
03:33.11 | Sadrolla | I got themes from this address http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE4+Google+Chrome+Theme+'Sky'?content=116811 But I do not know what to install |
03:33.39 | Sadrolla | ping |
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04:02.16 | dpalacio^2 | Is the 190.x series of Nvidia drivers working fine with KDE 4.3+? |
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04:36.02 | necroforest | what is the executable for the KDE 4.3 control center? |
04:36.06 | necroforest | or whatever it's called now |
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04:38.38 | necroforest | systemsettings |
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06:23.44 | coyo | okay, i've got a question, if anyone is awake. KWin and KWorkspace keeps crashing, and there are transient display problems. they usually occur when i am attempting to open/close or force-quit applications that have frozen. I am a user of Kubuntu/KDE 4.3.2 I do not know how to compile by source yet, though i'd be more than happy to learn |
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06:33.36 | oneforall | wtf trash has reached its max size |
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06:35.50 | oneforall | hmm I can right click delete in the tre in konq file mode now. But its still showing it after it deleted it O.o |
06:36.01 | coyo | empty? |
06:36.19 | oneforall | yeah window pane its deleted |
06:36.25 | coyo | hmm |
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06:36.53 | coyo | if the trash is full, and you are sure you wont miss anything, try emptying trash |
06:37.05 | coyo | or will it let you? |
06:37.44 | oneforall | sorry trash ,no, it wasn't empty but in 4,3.4 etc I had a lot more in it :) |
06:38.04 | coyo | um |
06:38.08 | coyo | i cant understand you |
06:38.11 | coyo | what had more in it? |
06:38.20 | oneforall | trash |
06:38.22 | coyo | oh |
06:38.35 | coyo | so did the new version of kde change the location of trash? |
06:38.49 | coyo | considers, he doesnt know the location of the trash file :< |
06:38.52 | oneforall | the other thing is when I delete a dir its not refreshing in the tree |
06:38.59 | coyo | hmm |
06:39.14 | coyo | try clicking View > Refresh in qonq |
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06:39.21 | coyo | *konq |
06:40.10 | oneforall | funny thing is I tested that when I upgraded to .85 and it worked. But now its not O.o . tried refresh mouse and F5 |
06:40.35 | oneforall | its still just refreshing the window pane |
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06:41.53 | oneforall | oipen a new konq and its refreshed |
06:41.58 | oneforall | open* |
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06:45.19 | coyo | huh |
06:45.29 | coyo | that's odd.. |
06:45.44 | coyo | is still a newbie, hopefully someone more experienced is awake |
06:46.16 | rbh | I am new to Kubuntu. My laptop has three HDD's previously configured as LVM encrypted under Fedora. Now under Kubuntu, it only recognizes the primary drive (/dev/sda). I have installed gparted and it sees the other drives. How would I get the other two drives mounted and then extended into the LVM? I used the alternative CD installation so that I would have LVM enabled. |
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06:48.02 | coyo | rbh: welcome to kubuntu! :s sorry, but i have no idea how to recover encrypted lvm paritions, let me look that up, it's something i need to know too |
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06:52.16 | rbh | coyo - thanks! |
06:54.28 | coyo | rbh: this may take some serious google-fu, hold on |
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06:55.44 | coyo | found so far: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8874 how to recover lvm when your root fails |
06:55.49 | coyo | still looking |
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07:01.06 | rbh | coyo - if it helps, I just checked the /etc/fstab file and they are not there. |
07:01.42 | coyo | huh |
07:01.48 | coyo | that does help, tnx |
07:02.19 | coyo | what it sounds like, is that your new /root setup is not yet set up to automatically mount them, yet |
07:02.32 | coyo | all we have to figure out, is how to add them |
07:02.40 | coyo | you still have the passphrase, right? |
07:02.47 | coyo | (otherwise you're kinda screwed) |
07:03.15 | rbh | I'm pretty certain - I use the same passwords over and over .. |
07:03.19 | coyo | k |
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07:04.10 | coyo | as someone who's big on security, i have to warn you that's not best practice (but i understand, i do the same thing, i just have a set of passwords i use for diff things) |
07:04.39 | coyo | stilling searching, there's gotta be something |
07:04.44 | coyo | *still |
07:09.28 | coyo | rbh: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/broken-lvm-recovery-please-help-601660/ |
07:09.45 | coyo | did any of those links help, or are you still reading them? |
07:10.31 | rbh | I'm pulling it up now. |
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07:14.17 | rbh | * finally loaded .. reading now |
07:14.24 | coyo | rbh: http://www.sprang.de/cms/de/content/Recover-%20an-encrypted-lvm-root-system-from-broken-boot-partition |
07:17.39 | coyo | rbh: http://onecool1.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/how-to-recover-that-encrypted-ext4-formatted-logical-volume-you-allowed-fedora-to-create/ |
07:18.25 | coyo | rbh: is that good? |
07:18.42 | coyo | did that let you know what you needed to find out? |
07:19.44 | rbh | coyo - my gut tells me that there is something I need to do after running gparted on the drives. I ran gparted on them and so I know the system sees them to some degree. I am guessing that I must somehow mount them (not sure why this is not automatic) and then maybe extend the LVM into the 2 drives. |
07:19.58 | coyo | well |
07:19.58 | rbh | I am still trying to pull up the page but it is timing out for me right now |
07:20.16 | coyo | i'm pretty sure there's a utility or command that adds them to fstab and mounts them |
07:20.21 | coyo | but i honestly dont know it |
07:20.34 | coyo | you enter your key there |
07:20.53 | coyo | by key i mean your passphrase which generates the key |
07:21.23 | rbh | I'll continue on that path since that seems to be where everything is pointing. Thanks for all the help! |
07:21.33 | coyo | no problem! |
07:21.37 | coyo | loves helping newbies! |
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07:22.16 | coyo | i should lurk moar in the various help channels, since i get a real charge from helping people out |
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09:17.44 | e01 | hello |
09:17.53 | e01 | how can i show desktop settings |
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10:10.29 | patkoscsaba | hi all |
10:10.38 | bigbrovar | patkoscsaba: hi |
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10:10.57 | patkoscsaba | is there a "Folder Synchronize" module/plugin for Dolphin? |
10:11.03 | patkoscsaba | something like Krusader has |
10:11.54 | bigbrovar | patkoscsaba: am new to kde myself sorry i cant help with that |
10:12.22 | patkoscsaba | bigbrovar: no problem |
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10:22.30 | tzanger | so how exactly does one crop with gwenedit? |
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10:22.49 | tzanger | edit->crop shows a crop button on the picture but I can't select the picture area |
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10:25.01 | patkoscsaba | tzanger: I just started gwenview, selected a picture, edit->crop |
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10:25.12 | patkoscsaba | and I have the hole image marked |
10:25.38 | patkoscsaba | you can resize the cropped area by dragging it's sides |
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10:26.00 | patkoscsaba | when you finish, click on "Crop" and it's done |
10:28.08 | tzanger | patkoscsaba: yeah, they got rid of the really simple and easy to use click here, drag here to adjust the crop size |
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10:28.30 | tzanger | patkoscsaba: changed it to some nifty but difficult to use and way less useful predefined ratios :-( |
10:29.24 | patkoscsaba | tzanger: predefined ratios? ... It look simple enough for me ... I just did it for the first time with gwenview and answered your question in 2 minutes |
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10:31.15 | tzanger | patkoscsaba: can you pick a point on the picture, drag to size it, and then pick up the edges and fine tune it? I can't seem to do that |
10:31.32 | tzanger | I can pick up the whole "new size" highlight and move it over the pic |
10:31.48 | tzanger | but I cna't select an arbitrary size without going ot advanced and actually plugging in numbers |
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10:33.04 | tzanger | mind you it could be some kubuntu oddity too |
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10:40.51 | patkoscsaba | tzanger: I can drag the edges as I wish ... I use KDE 4.3.4 |
10:42.31 | patkoscsaba | and I can grab the hole cropped zone and move it as I wish ... and all this without selecting "Advanced " |
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10:50.15 | tzanger | patkoscsaba: ok, then it's some kubuntu weirdness... ugh |
10:50.20 | tzanger | patkoscsaba: thank you for checking for me |
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10:54.00 | patkoscsaba | tzanger: no problem |
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11:02.25 | scorpius_ | in KDE 3.5, where are all the shortcuts stored that are used in the start menu (kicker)? |
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11:06.40 | foormea | hi, i'm trying to make jack (jack audio connection kit) work under kde4. it works if i launch it upon computer/kde startup, but if i want to start it after a while, then it says it cannot connect to hw0 as hw0 is already being used... i'm totally lost with phonon, pulseaudio and the like |
11:06.58 | foormea | how can i stop phonon or pulseaudio? what's the difference between phonon and pulseaudio? which is used under kde4? |
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11:07.17 | foormea | (oh yeah i'm running gentoo) |
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11:09.08 | Mamarok | foormea: by default you shouldn't have pulseaudio then, Phonon is enough for KDE |
11:10.02 | foormea | Mamarok: i see. i'm a total newbie when it comes to these things, so phonon is the default kde sound server, isn't it? |
11:10.05 | scorpius_ | in KDE 3.5, where are all the shortcuts stored that are used in the start menu (kicker)? |
11:10.21 | foormea | how can i stop phonon? how could i replace phonon by jack? |
11:10.26 | Mamarok | scorpius_: no idea I didn't use KDE 3.5.x in ages |
11:10.57 | Mamarok | foormea: you don't stop phonon, just select jack in the Multimedia settings |
11:11.12 | Mamarok | foormea: but you should remove pulseaudio, it doesn't play well with Phonon |
11:11.38 | foormea | Mamarok: well apart from installing jack, i didn't install anything else, so i shouldn't have pulseaudio |
11:11.50 | foormea | Mamarok: but how do i check whether i have it? :) |
11:12.35 | Mamarok | well check if 'pulseaudio' is installed, no idea how one does that in Gentoo |
11:13.01 | foormea | ok |
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11:14.09 | foormea | alright i don't have it :) |
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11:51.54 | dkarlovi | hello, a quick question |
11:52.13 | dkarlovi | I'm using Fedora 12 with KDE 4.3.3 |
11:52.27 | dkarlovi | sometimes my keyboard just stops responsing to input |
11:52.45 | dkarlovi | but I can switch to a VT or ctrl alt backspace X server |
11:52.53 | dkarlovi | so it works, just not under KDE |
11:53.08 | dkarlovi | on my F10 installation, same thing |
11:53.28 | dkarlovi | like something is stealing the keyboard input, is this some known issue? |
11:53.49 | Torch | dkarlovi: not as far as i know. |
11:54.14 | dkarlovi | Torch: how could I figure out the cause? |
11:54.20 | dkarlovi | any hints? :) |
11:55.48 | dkarlovi | OK, it JUST happened again :) |
11:55.54 | dkarlovi | and just stopped by itself |
11:56.09 | dkarlovi | all I was doing is using alt-tab to switch through some windows |
11:56.42 | Half-Left | kdegames Egyptian theme video if anyone wants to watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ltYhkgPW_E |
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12:17.38 | GattoDiSchroding | is no way to integrate the look of GTK applications in KDE4? |
12:18.15 | Half-Left | Yes there is |
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12:19.09 | GattoDiSchroding | i installed gtk-qt-engine but nothing changed... |
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12:19.43 | Half-Left | You have two options; Use the the native GTK+ theming engine or use a GTK+ theme that matches the Oxygen one |
12:20.51 | szal | option #3: use another theme for KDE and a matching one for Gtk+ ;) |
12:21.14 | GattoDiSchroding | wich gtk+ theme for example? |
12:21.22 | rerushg | GattoDiSchroding: Did you activate the GTK -QT settings in the KDE settings app? |
12:21.24 | szal | in my experience the combination of Cleanlooks for KDE and Clearlooks for Gtk+ is very good |
12:21.30 | Half-Left | Yeah, why has KDE/Qt always got to do the work? :p |
12:21.34 | GattoDiSchroding | rerushg: yes |
12:23.17 | Half-Left | GattoDiSchroding: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen-Molecule+KDE+%26+GTK%2B+unified+theme?content=103741 |
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12:24.01 | Half-Left | Qt Curve is another good unified theme |
12:25.06 | GattoDiSchroding | Half-Left: i already tried to install gtk2-engines-qtcurve and kde-style-qtcurve |
12:25.32 | GattoDiSchroding | but the lookof gtk application doesnìt changed |
12:25.55 | Half-Left | That's not KDE's problem |
12:26.20 | szal | installing alone won't help here; you need the gtk-qt-engine & then restart KDE |
12:26.27 | Half-Left | GTK theming tends to break and be buggy |
12:26.33 | szal | and then you need to select the themes |
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12:26.43 | GattoDiSchroding | szal: ok, i will try |
12:27.00 | szal | don't try.. do it or do it not.. there is no trying |
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12:27.08 | GattoDiSchroding | :) |
12:27.10 | szal | </yoda> |
12:27.15 | Half-Left | (Depending on the version you have) |
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12:28.02 | GattoDiSchroding | maybe a problem of debian packages |
12:29.44 | Half-Left | A restart of KDE may solve the issue as szal said |
12:30.52 | szal | [13:26:27] <Half-Left> GTK theming tends to break and be buggy <- especially the automatic theming via gtk-qt-engine; hence better to select Gtk theme by hand |
12:31.09 | GattoDiSchroding | ok, I have to finish a download and then try |
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12:33.14 | Half-Left | szal: Yep |
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12:35.27 | Half-Left | szal: In Kubuntu they even seemed to have broken the gtkrc |
12:35.51 | szal | no idea |
12:36.08 | szal | but still reasons piling up not to use *buntu :P |
12:36.10 | Half-Left | You entered it manually in the file and it never worked |
12:37.34 | Half-Left | Yep, same here. It seems to have some quirky things going wrong with it but I was only testing it at the time |
12:38.12 | szal | running openSUSE happily here, but considering Fedora for my other machine |
12:38.25 | Half-Left | szal: Same here :) |
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12:39.01 | Half-Left | Unstable repos :) |
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12:40.26 | szal | where? |
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12:40.51 | Half-Left | Where from? |
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12:42.03 | szal | openSUSE repos are far from unstable; no idea about Fedora's though, but I can't remember inconsistencies from former uses of Fedora (F7/F8) |
12:42.51 | Half-Left | szal: I run unstable snapshots repos like the KDE4 trunk ones and Qt4.6 ones |
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12:43.04 | Half-Left | But they're pretty stable :) |
12:43.06 | szal | ah |
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12:54.04 | Half-Left | The new NVIDIA beta driver supposed to increase KDE4's performance by quiet a bit |
12:54.55 | Half-Left | 195.30 |
12:56.36 | Half-Left | tries them |
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12:57.16 | Half-Left | "Fixed a performance regression with non-antialiased text in KDE4." |
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12:57.55 | Half-Left | "Enabled GPU acceleration for many RENDER compositing operations that were previously processed in software, including conjoint and disjoint blending modes and component alpha blending." |
12:58.13 | Half-Left | "Added experimental GPU acceleration of the RENDER CompositeTrapezoids operation" |
12:58.15 | Half-Left | :D |
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13:19.50 | barraponto | beclock anyone? |
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13:33.52 | szal | barraponto: ? |
13:34.20 | barraponto | szal: i'm running beclock, can't find the configuration to set its corner... |
13:34.55 | barraponto | szal: i'm feeling quite dumb. |
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13:51.11 | Kwpolska | hi |
13:52.40 | Kwpolska | i can't start plasma on kde 4.3.85 |
13:53.29 | Kwpolska | did someone know this problem? |
13:53.49 | Half-Left | What happens? |
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13:54.23 | Kwpolska | nothing. |
13:54.43 | thiago_home | well, if you run it, it runs |
13:54.50 | thiago_home | you'll have to be more specific |
13:54.53 | Kwpolska | when typing plasma-desktop in krunner or starting it by starting kde it shows me bug reporting |
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13:55.17 | Kwpolska | tried to delete kde settings |
13:55.53 | thiago_home | ok, try upgrading then |
13:56.39 | Kwpolska | i had changed repos from stable to factory (openSUSE) |
13:57.09 | Half-Left | Kwpolska: What files are in /.config/autostart |
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14:12.57 | Kwpolska | xfce4-settings-helper-autostart.desktop and xfconf-migration-4.6.desktop |
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14:14.26 | Half-Left | Kwpolska: Have you tried a new user? |
14:14.26 | Kwpolska | no. tried .kde4 rename |
14:14.26 | Kwpolska | no effect |
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14:14.29 | Kwpolska | by running plasma-desktop in konsole, i'd got this error: plasma-desktop(23458): Communication problem with "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed. |
14:14.29 | Kwpolska | plasma-desktop(23458): Communication problem with "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed. |
14:14.31 | Half-Left | Try a new user then |
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14:14.32 | Kwpolska | logout. |
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14:14.41 | mardi_soir | bonjour |
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14:32.10 | RiotingPacifist | is it just me or is kate sometimes abit laggy? and by a bit i mean a tiny amout, but just enough to annoy me? |
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14:33.23 | reavertm | RiotingPacifist: google how to enable Qt4 raster engine, should help a bit |
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14:34.44 | Half-Left | RiotingPacifist: You're asking us if it annoys you? :p |
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14:35.25 | dirtytwist | folks ?? |
14:38.06 | Half-Left | dirtytwist: Why bother using question marks without asking the question? |
14:39.19 | RiotingPacifist | reavertm: thx |
14:39.30 | dirtytwist | no worries |
14:39.43 | RiotingPacifist | erm also alt+f2 seams to lock up sometimes |
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14:40.07 | thiago_home | what version of Qt? |
14:40.31 | reavertm | and distro |
14:41.28 | thiago_home | no, just version |
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14:43.50 | RiotingPacifist | sorry where would i get my qt version? |
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14:46.01 | RiotingPacifist | all of my libqt4* show as libqtcore4 4:4.6.0-1ubuntu3~karmic1~ppa1 |
14:46.28 | pinotree | kde 4.3 or 4.4? |
14:46.55 | RiotingPacifist | 4.3.85 |
14:47.02 | RiotingPacifist | 4.4beta2 |
14:47.24 | RiotingPacifist | sorry copied and pasted without realising it gave the wrong answere |
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14:59.09 | judgen | ~140k i själva uleborg |
14:59.43 | judgen | oops |
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15:06.26 | jefkinz | hi is there a command line only version of kopete? |
15:07.20 | thiago_home | no |
15:07.28 | jefkinz | gracias. :-) |
15:07.47 | jefkinz | sometiems negative knowledge is harder to come by than positiive. :-D |
15:07.53 | jefkinz | *sometimes |
15:09.36 | RiotingPacifist | jefkinz: there is a CLI for pidgin, if your looking to use instant messengers from the CL |
15:11.14 | jefkinz | RiotingPacifist: thanks, was looking for an alternate was to use the yahoo messenger stuff, but my kopete is too old, doesn't have the new authorization library. (using RHEL/Centos 5.4, have to stay with the "supported" packages) |
15:11.36 | jefkinz | eg - "supported" by RHEL/CentOS |
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15:12.48 | lord-carlos | hi there, my KDE4.3 desktop wont start. plasma-desktop to be exact: http://pastebin.com/m762c1429 |
15:12.56 | lord-carlos | i use debian testing |
15:13.43 | thiago_home | what version of 4.3? |
15:14.40 | lord-carlos | how can i find out? |
15:14.55 | Torch | oneforall: help -> about kde in any kde app |
15:15.02 | Torch | oops,. sorry oneforall |
15:15.06 | Torch | lord-carlos: that was for you ;-) |
15:15.28 | lord-carlos | dpkg -s kdebase-bin gives me Version: 4:4.3.2-1 |
15:15.40 | lord-carlos | 4.3.2 |
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15:21.07 | lord-carlos | thiago_home: Do you know how i can fix my problem? |
15:21.44 | thiago_home | lord-carlos: upgrade to 4.3.4 |
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15:29.29 | lord-carlos | thiago_home: i am just installing kdebase-runtime kdebase-workspace kdebase 4.3.4 from debian unstable. |
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15:29.39 | lord-carlos | i hope that fixes the Problem |
15:30.19 | lord-carlos | brb, restarting |
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15:33.17 | lord-carlos | yay, thanks you all |
15:33.21 | lord-carlos | 4.3.4 works |
15:33.25 | baisemain | Hello! |
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16:03.11 | sum | i still have a little encoding problem: opening firefox entering special characters in any text fiel yields correct characters (like german umlauts ae, oe, ue). opening a kde application (kate,konsole tested) entering the same characters yields "rubbish" (öäü). i have configured both to use utf-8 but somehow not kde applications understands the input characters from the x-server correctly. any idea on where to look next? |
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16:05.15 | sum | on a second system running nearly the same setup i don't have those problems. |
16:05.33 | sum | creating a new user results in thesame problems with that new use |
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16:43.24 | Half-Left | Awwww crap! NVIDIA speeded up their beta driver but it's only for the GT200 series cards and above. |
16:44.46 | sreich | aw |
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16:46.25 | Half-Left | So to speed up KDE's compositing using the new features, buy a GTS200 series :/ |
16:46.54 | Sho_ | Half-Left: You misread |
16:47.14 | Half-Left | ? |
16:48.07 | Sho_ | Half-Left: The only thing in the driver that requires a GTX is an (experimental, off-by-default) acceleration for CompositeTrapezoids |
16:48.29 | jefkinz | sum: what is configured differently between the two systems? |
16:48.47 | Sho_ | Half-Left: The hardware accel for conjoint and disjoint blending modes and component alpha blending, and the fix for the KDE 4 text rendering regression, are all also for earlier cards |
16:48.53 | Half-Left | Sho_: Yes and you need a 200 series card to use it |
16:49.31 | Sho_ | Half-Left: The point is that you misread, the driver isn't only for 200 series and above |
16:49.47 | Half-Left | Sho_: I never said it was, I said that feature was |
16:49.51 | Sho_ | The only thing that is is the CompositeTrapezoid accel |
16:49.59 | Sho_ | "<Half-Left> Awwww crap! NVIDIA speeded up their beta driver but it's only for the GT200 series cards and above." |
16:50.11 | sum | jefkinz: no idea :( |
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16:50.33 | Half-Left | For the AccelerateTrapezoids yes |
16:50.38 | sum | jefkinz: they are both gentoos on amd64 and i think on /etc level nothing is different with respekt to kde. but on user level it seems there are differences |
16:50.38 | Sho_ | That is different from "Awww crap! NVIDIA added hardware acceleration for CompositeTrapezoids in their beta driver but it's only for the GT200 series cards and above." |
16:50.58 | Half-Left | Sho_: nitpicker |
16:51.00 | Sho_ | If you didn't misread, then you're at least spreading misinformation :) |
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16:51.18 | Sho_ | In any case, I recommend trying out that beta, it finally fixed the performance issue with bitmap fonts in KDE 4 apps for me |
16:51.23 | Sho_ | (on a GeForce 9) |
16:51.25 | Half-Left | I have it |
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16:53.29 | Half-Left | Awwww crap! NVIDIA speeded up their beta driver but only the GT200 series cards and above can use the AccelerateTrapezoids=1 feature |
16:53.44 | jefkinz | sum, generate a file list with checksums, sorted, from both machines, run a diff between the two lsts and that will tell you which files differ. apply a little human perspective/wisdom to the list of different file and you will find what the specific difference is. |
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16:54.52 | Half-Left | Sho_: Fixed! |
16:55.00 | Sho_ | Half-Left: :) |
16:55.23 | Sho_ | chat statement v2.0 |
16:55.23 | sum | jefkinz: is there some syntax-checked shell skrtip for this ultimately common task? ;-) |
16:55.56 | jefkinz | sum, of course not. just write a one liner in bash. its trivial |
16:56.20 | Half-Left | Funny how they introduce a new feature that's usually in the more newer GPUs', rather than speeding up older generations |
16:57.12 | Sho_ | Half-Left: Well it'd probably be additional work to support it also in older generations, and they're focussing on what they're selling at the time |
16:57.14 | jefkinz | Half-Left: thats the standard M$ sales approach. dont fix old stuff, make new stuff and hype it till people "have to have it" |
16:57.15 | sum | jefkinz: not that familiar withthat find -exec syntax... |
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16:57.27 | sum | but wil lsee. |
16:57.42 | jefkinz | sum - using find would need xargs |
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16:57.59 | Half-Left | Yep, the only way to make Linux users upgrade their GPU |
16:58.16 | Sho_ | Half-Left: It's also related to how nVidia works. Whenever they add support for a new GPU range to a driver, the driver size increased by a couple of MB, indicating that to avoid regressions in older stuff they just fork a copy of their codebase and make changes in the new copy, leaving the copies for older GPU ranges mostly untouched. |
16:58.21 | sum | jefkinz: but with >1M files i guess the command line length will at some point be quite large |
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16:58.47 | jefkinz | sum: that why you need xargs |
16:59.03 | jefkinz | <PROTECTED> |
16:59.40 | jefkinz | <PROTECTED> |
16:59.43 | Half-Left | Sho_: Yeah, Windows drivers are about 90MB, more features though |
17:00.05 | jefkinz | then si same with the user's home dir, then so same on other system, then diff the lists |
17:00.22 | sum | jefkinz: k, thanks, be back in a minute |
17:00.37 | jefkinz | maybe more than a minute... ;-) |
17:00.52 | Sho_ | Half-Left: was talking about the Linux driver actually |
17:01.39 | sum | jefkinz: i have a quadcore and a dual core ;-) and my fingers are flying ;-) yes! |
17:01.50 | Half-Left | Sho_: Yeah but I'm not sure how they managed to add 20mb in the new beta driver over the stable one, not a couple of MB. |
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17:03.11 | jefkinz | Half-Left: debug and tracing stuff ;-) |
17:03.13 | Half-Left | It's nearly 10MB on the non precompiled |
17:03.56 | Half-Left | jefkinz: Could be, we'll see if the final driver is smaller |
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17:04.30 | jefkinz | just WA guessing :) |
17:04.37 | momesana | hi everybody |
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17:04.54 | jefkinz | momesana: hi every-you. :) |
17:05.06 | Half-Left | Mind you, you generate a bug report from the driver in the stable version, so maybe not :p |
17:05.19 | momesana | I had to resize my partitions to make room for masocsx ... I created a tarball of my box and restored it but now I can't login using kdm |
17:05.27 | momesana | I can use startx though |
17:05.31 | RLa | how to get rid of kword main docker? |
17:06.25 | momesana | thats what kdm.log says http://pastebin.ca/1728578 |
17:06.33 | momesana | any Ideas? |
17:06.33 | jefkinz | momesana: any error msgs, or other info in logs when trying to use kdm? |
17:06.48 | momesana | jefkinz: nope. Nothing just the kdm.log ... |
17:07.05 | RLa | synaptic has kernel module? |
17:07.08 | momesana | jefkinz: It drops to the login again after a second |
17:07.12 | RLa | maybe it's missing now |
17:07.15 | jefkinz | momesana: does the GUI login launch at all? |
17:07.21 | momesana | jefkinz: no |
17:07.30 | momesana | jefkinz: it flickers for a second and I am back at the kdm log |
17:07.39 | jefkinz | momesana: what distro and release? |
17:07.40 | momesana | jefkinz: startx does work however |
17:07.54 | momesana | jefkinz: gentoo, kde4-3.3 |
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17:08.29 | momesana | kdm has version 4.3.3 |
17:08.34 | jefkinz | hmm dunno gentoo. look at the initscript for X, and add verbose debugg log levels to the command line that starts X and kdm,. |
17:09.03 | jefkinz | if X is started from inittab, add the verbose option there too. |
17:09.12 | jefkinz | as well as in the command that starts kdm. |
17:09.23 | momesana | jefkinz: kdm is started by inittab |
17:09.41 | momesana | jefkinz: how do I add the verbose option/increase the debug level? |
17:10.13 | jefkinz | whats the inittab line? |
17:10.28 | momesana | http://pastebin.ca/index.php |
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17:11.13 | momesana | x:a:once:/etc/X11/startDM.sh ? |
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17:11.50 | jefkinz | momesana: look in that script file /etc/X11/startDM.sh |
17:11.53 | jefkinz | see what it does. |
17:12.49 | jefkinz | I dont see a man page for kdm, but kdm --help shows some options, including specifying bit fields for debug options and specifying an alternate config file., so there may be a setting that can be placed in the config file. |
17:13.08 | momesana | http://pastebin.ca/1728582 |
17:13.40 | jefkinz | momesana: I don't know any of this stuff either. I'm just telling you what i would do to find out whats happening. A generalized "hmm, whats wrong with this " approach |
17:14.36 | momesana | jefkinz: ok, look, I can start kdm manually |
17:14.42 | momesana | and I get the same issue |
17:14.51 | jefkinz | same inability to login ? |
17:14.57 | momesana | yes |
17:15.04 | jefkinz | did you start kdm as root? |
17:15.05 | momesana | the exact same issue |
17:15.11 | momesana | jefkinz: yes |
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17:15.46 | jefkinz | ok, look into the config file and see if there is an options to tunr on some debugging/verbose logging |
17:15.58 | momesana | ok |
17:16.39 | momesana | I cant find anything regarding debug in the kdmrc file |
17:16.50 | sum | jefkinz: is it correct that this setting should not be associated to a kde program since it happens with all kde programs? |
17:16.52 | jefkinz | where is the kdmrc file? |
17:17.07 | momesana | in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
17:17.26 | momesana | and it is the actual one being used ... since I just enabled root login and it worked |
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17:17.46 | momesana | btw, I have the same issue for every user including root |
17:17.49 | jefkinz | momesana: I dunno if the one under share is the one used by the system at startup time. Sadly there is no man page for either kdm or kdmrc. |
17:18.04 | momesana | jefkinz: it is the one used, trust me |
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17:18.19 | momesana | jefkinz: I changed an option and it took effect |
17:18.46 | jefkinz | momesana: in order to allow logins the process has to be root at some point, one way to do that is have it start as root, and things started from inittab are root, so we can assume kdm starts as root |
17:19.09 | jefkinz | <PROTECTED> |
17:19.15 | momesana | :) |
17:19.49 | jefkinz | now we need some doco on what other command line options exist for kdm and.or what debug/verbose options/setting can be put in kdmrc |
17:20.24 | momesana | jefkinz: yep |
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17:20.32 | momesana | the -debug flag seems interesting |
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17:21.44 | jefkinz | "gee - that sounds like it might be relevant." |
17:21.47 | jefkinz | :-) |
17:23.08 | jefkinz | anyone know what tool kde has tha reads "docbook" files? like "dmrc-ref.docbook" |
17:24.42 | Sho_ | usually what one does is convert docbook to html or some other format |
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17:29.43 | jefkinz | Sho_: yeah found docbooktohtml etc.. it fails, needs some kind of spec doc|sheet for additional definitions. |
17:29.50 | jefkinz | at least on Centos 5.4 |
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17:30.57 | sum | jefkinz: can't find anything useful with the md5sum-diff method... seems in /etc is nothing realated to kde configured and in the users homedir the files that i identified as kde-settings and not kde-application specific settings are not different in any useful point |
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17:32.30 | jefkinz | sum, rats. |
17:32.56 | jefkinz | sum: wait - you said nothing useful, |
17:33.06 | jefkinz | did it show any differences? |
17:33.16 | sum | jefkinz: yes sure lots of |
17:33.26 | jefkinz | too many to be workable? |
17:33.38 | Celos | Hi ! I'm using KDE4, and i have a problem with KDM. I have installed kde-l10n-fr, and i have my kde working in french, great. But my KDM is still in qwerty instead of azerty! In the system configuration, I already put "french" as language, my system locale is fr_FR-UTF8 ... i don't know how can i make kdm be in azerty...any help ? |
17:33.40 | sum | most of them are unrelated to kde |
17:34.36 | jefkinz | sum: could there be some not related to KDE, which are related to character encoding or displayed charset? |
17:35.38 | sum | jefkinz: paste here: http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~clemensh/diff.md5sums |
17:35.55 | sum | jefkinz: i guess no, becaus in firefox everything is fine in same x display/screen |
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17:38.29 | momesana | jefkinz: using gdm it works |
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17:38.46 | momesana | but I don't want to use gdm |
17:39.00 | momesana | :-( |
17:39.07 | jefkinz | momesana: do you have /etc/sysconfig files? |
17:39.23 | jefkinz | sum - there are a lot of different files under .kde4/share/config |
17:39.23 | momesana | jefkinz: nope |
17:39.37 | momesana | jefkinz: sysconfig? |
17:39.46 | sum | jefkinz: yes, but it is in all kde applications (kate and console, e.g.) so i think it's not related to a special application. |
17:40.35 | jefkinz | sum - all those files - none of them relate to kde-global attributes? |
17:40.49 | jefkinz | momesana: any file called /etc/X11/prefdm? |
17:41.02 | momesana | nope |
17:41.05 | momesana | jefkinz: no |
17:41.13 | bendj | My printer's set up for 'Letter' size default. Most apps respect that selection. Both Krita & Okular ignore any/all settings, and insist on 'A4'. I know Okular's had a long-standing problem with this -- but since Krita has the issue too, suspicious that it's an underlying prob. Qt, maybe? Anyone know of a fix/workaround to print to the paper-size we tell it to? |
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17:41.45 | pinotree | bendj: did you try changing the paper size also in the "advanced" properties dialog of a printer? |
17:41.47 | amstan | hey guys, how can i connect phonon to jack? |
17:42.00 | jefkinz | momesana: when you GDM does it give you the menu choice for what DM to use? (this might be a workaround) |
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17:42.02 | tuxick | kde just caused a system load of 80 a few minutes ago |
17:42.05 | sum | i checked kdedrc, konsolerc, startupconfig, kdeglobals |
17:42.14 | tuxick | after the old "keyboard stops responding" bug kicked in |
17:42.21 | tuxick | forced me to reboot |
17:42.39 | momesana | jefkinz: http://pastebin.ca/1728606 |
17:42.42 | jefkinz | sum: any ide what setting is different between the ones showing it right and the ones that aren't? |
17:42.50 | sum | jefkinz: the strange this is: i can change the character encoding in konsole but it does not change the things i see on the console when i press those special buttons (ae, oe, ue) |
17:42.52 | momesana | jefkinz: I didn't look |
17:42.55 | Sho_ | throws a snowball at pinotree |
17:43.08 | momesana | jefkinz: I will log out and see if there is such a menu |
17:43.15 | pinotree | throws a snowman at Sho_ |
17:43.28 | sum | jefkinz: there was nothing different in those file |
17:43.34 | sum | s that catched my attentions |
17:44.02 | Sho_ | throws an igloo at pinotree |
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17:45.30 | jefkinz | sum - what encoding is selected under settings in konsole? |
17:45.38 | bendj | pinotree Yes, everything's set to "Letter" |
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17:45.59 | momesana | jefkinz: yes, there is a menu where I can select the dm |
17:46.31 | jefkinz | is kdm in the menu? |
17:46.32 | momesana | jefkinz: I have only kde installed so I can only log into kde ... but I really would prefer kdm ... |
17:46.34 | sum | jefkinz: on the not working station its by default iso-8859-1 and changing it to utf-8 does not change the things displayed on the console when i press those keys |
17:46.38 | momesana | jefkinz: kdm in the menu of gdm? |
17:46.52 | jefkinz | momesana: yes |
17:46.56 | jefkinz | is it? |
17:47.00 | sum | jefkinz: i think kde gueses x passes its characters in iso-encoding and thus resulting in bad characters. |
17:47.08 | momesana | jefkinz: no. kdm is not a desktop environment so no, its not there |
17:47.20 | sum | so the konsole encoding setting does not change anything because it changes input and output with respect to the xserver and console windows |
17:47.32 | jefkinz | momesana: ah, right. what is in the file /etc/X11/dm? |
17:47.43 | sum | jefkinz: on the working achine it's by default utf8 |
17:48.04 | momesana | jefkinz: a directory called Sessions |
17:48.12 | momesana | which contains custom.desktop |
17:48.17 | jefkinz | sum: any difference in the LANG or LOCALE shell variables on those two machines? |
17:48.46 | momesana | jefkinz: http://pastebin.ca/1728613 |
17:49.05 | sum | jefkinz: opening a console on both machines under kde results in the same output of "locale" |
17:49.26 | sum | both show as LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 |
17:50.14 | jefkinz | sum: did you look at all the X init files, like xinit, xsession ? |
17:53.23 | sum | jefkinz: no, i didn't |
17:53.40 | sum | well, actually i just did but i think they are the same, at least those lying in /etc |
17:53.59 | icwiener_ | Hi, I am using trunk for a few days now and I have the following problem: KMail won't quote the original message anymore. Does anyone else see this? |
17:54.01 | sum | and since firefox takes charaters right, it - to mee - seems to be ok from the view of Xorg |
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17:55.14 | sum | jefkinz: i think the characterset of konsole which is chosen by default must be the systems characterset. and since that is not ok with the broken machine i think kde does no know of the correct system character set. |
17:55.23 | jefkinz | sum: and firefox doesn't follow KDE settings since its not aKDE ( or gnome) application... |
17:55.29 | sum | i will try to force utf8 there somehow. and this *could* be related to /etc settings |
17:56.15 | jefkinz | sum: dumb, brute force, but ... grep -ri Encoding /etc/* |
17:57.18 | jefkinz | momesana: whne you started kdm by hand,as root, i assume you started it from a virtual console term session, with no X running ? |
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17:59.02 | momesana | jefkinz: zes |
17:59.03 | momesana | jefkinz: yes |
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17:59.59 | jefkinz | momesana: and no error messages cam out there/ |
18:00.02 | jefkinz | *came |
18:00.07 | momesana | jefkinz: nothing |
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18:01.04 | Velory | hi can i ask questions about Nepomuk here ? |
18:01.12 | Sho_ | sure |
18:01.28 | momesana | jefkinz: well, kdm seems not to regard this a fatal error and thus gives no error messages. After all it doesn't crash or something ... it keeps on dropping back to the login menu again. But it does write the stuff I pasted above to the kdm.log |
18:01.30 | Sho_ | unless they're more development-related, then #kde-devel |
18:01.49 | Velory | Sho_: i'm trying to include Nepomuk my Qtc++ project but my project using Waf |
18:01.54 | Velory | hmmm |
18:01.57 | Velory | yes i think |
18:02.09 | Sho_ | yeah that's #kde-devel material |
18:02.14 | Velory | ok thanks |
18:02.16 | Velory | :) |
18:02.17 | jefkinz | momesana: but it won't start from .etc/inittab, right/ |
18:02.35 | momesana | jefkinz: I echoed "" into the log and cleared it and when I tried to login again which of course failed I got the stuff I pasted before: that is: http://pastebin.ca/1728628 |
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18:02.47 | jefkinz | try adding -debug 0x0F to the kdm command line in that startup script that invoked from inittab |
18:02.51 | momesana | jefkinz: well, kdm will start from inittab ... but tI have the same issue then |
18:03.39 | jefkinz | "same issue" == No GUI login screen, right/ |
18:03.44 | jefkinz | *right? |
18:04.10 | momesana | jefkinz: same issue: Gui login screen ... but when I enter my password and press enter it drops back to the GUI login menu again |
18:04.26 | momesana | jefkinz: it's like an infinite loop ;) |
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18:04.55 | jefkinz | according to that pastebin it thinks there is a synaptics touchpad there? is there? |
18:05.12 | momesana | jefkinz: it's a notebook. yes, there is touchpad |
18:05.23 | sum | jefkinz: java has lots of encodings but everything else the same on both machines as far as i can compare by monitor. even grep for iso-* and/or utf-* did not bring anything useful |
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18:05.36 | sum | jefkinz: where are the kde global configuration files located usually? |
18:05.47 | Sho_ | $KDEHOME/share/config |
18:05.55 | Sho_ | where $KDEHOME is usually .kde or .kde4 |
18:06.03 | jefkinz | momesana: XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard <<-- this seems to be the root of the problem. maybe google for it ? |
18:06.20 | momesana | jefkinz: I had this issue before |
18:06.24 | jefkinz | Sho_: is that under the user's home dir? |
18:06.39 | jefkinz | momesana: so thats just an old artifact? |
18:06.40 | momesana | jefkinz: with issue I mean the same error message ... and it still worked |
18:06.41 | Sho_ | jefkinz: yes |
18:06.46 | sum | i am looking for global ones, not user ones |
18:06.57 | Sho_ | ah, I thought you meant kdeglobals |
18:07.06 | jefkinz | sum - all user's are equally affected? No differences? |
18:07.11 | sum | jefkinz: yes |
18:07.11 | momesana | jefkinz: nope. I mean the error message about the touchpad ... but there were no problems and gdm and X work without any issues |
18:07.41 | jefkinz | momesana: and you had the XKB ...keyboard message before too? |
18:08.00 | Sho_ | sum: global varies ... in fedora it's /usr/share/kde4, in some distros it's /etc/kde/, .. |
18:08.07 | momesana | jefkinz: If I remember right, yes |
18:08.17 | jefkinz | momesana: well, poo. |
18:08.30 | momesana | jefkinz: I guess that error message comes from X and X works fine as you can see (I am using kde right now) |
18:09.01 | jefkinz | try adding -debug 0x0F to the kdm command line in that startup script that invoked from inittab /etc/X11/startDM.sh |
18:09.09 | momesana | jefkinz: ok |
18:09.20 | momesana | I'll restart kde then ... see you in a few minutes |
18:09.23 | jefkinz | see if anything shows up in the log files |
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18:11.32 | sum | Sho_: hm... |
18:11.54 | sum | in /usr/share/kde4/ i have service snad servicetypes |
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18:12.42 | sum | in /etc/kde i have only startup agent and shutdown agent, both shell scripts with comments only |
18:13.17 | sum | it's so damn strange, i have even re-emerge the whole system already (1007 packages) just because of this encoding thing |
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18:14.56 | sum | does someone know a qt application that has nothing to do with kde? |
18:15.24 | Sho_ | www.qt-apps.org |
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18:16.52 | sum | is lyx kde related? |
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18:17.52 | Sho_ | in the sense that one of LyX's founders and core developers is KDE's founder, yes ;) |
18:18.24 | sum | and besides also using Qt ? |
18:18.37 | Sho_ | I think it's a pure Qt app, but I'm not sure |
18:19.05 | sum | well, let's see |
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18:22.01 | sum | hm, lyx has very similar problems. it just outputs strange characters when using ae, oe, ud |
18:22.11 | sum | so it can be qt-related... |
18:22.32 | Torch | sum: or X-related. or anything. |
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18:23.22 | momesana | jefkinz: no difference. The same error messages no matter what debug bit I set |
18:23.40 | jefkinz | momesana: did you check the log files as well? |
18:24.30 | momesana | jefkinz: yes, the error message are always set to the kdm.log file so I am actually talking about it |
18:24.46 | momesana | jefkinz: I cleared it everytime before starting kdm again ... and the error message was always the same |
18:25.11 | momesana | jefkinz: I tried it with 0x0 0x1 0x2 0x4 and 0x8 |
18:25.29 | sum | Torch: i am sadly surprised from open source for the very first time. there seems to be an unsolvable problem |
18:26.04 | sum | anything in the last 5 years was solved by some hack/trick/guess but this now stays here for at least 4 weeks |
18:26.14 | jefkinz | sum: its solvable, you just haven't asked the right people yet. I'm taking a generalized approach, as i have never looked into KDE before. |
18:26.53 | sum | jefkinz: thats what i do, too. and any problem was solved by something like that. |
18:28.47 | Sho_ | sum: never seen that problem, sorry |
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18:29.07 | Sho_ | but generally speaking, with open source you can be certain that you can do something, provided you learn enough. with closed source, when you have a problem, you often run into walls you can't progress beyond. |
18:29.48 | bendj | I've just dug through as much as I could find online re: Krita/Okular ignoring PaperSize settings, and always using A4. I've not found a consistent, working answer/solution anywhere. Is anyone here aware of one that I've missed? |
18:30.56 | sum | Sho_: full ack, and that's why i love open source. but atm i am too busy to look into kde's sources... |
18:31.11 | sum | somehow a reinstall seems more practical |
18:31.14 | sum | runs |
18:31.25 | jefkinz | fires on sum |
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18:31.40 | jefkinz | :) |
18:31.49 | Torch | sum: i think your lyx-test proves that it's not kde related. |
18:31.50 | sum | hrhr |
18:31.53 | Sho_ | sum: I doubt this is a kDE problem though |
18:32.00 | sum | Torch: i think my firefox test proves that it's not X related |
18:32.07 | Torch | sum: no. |
18:32.16 | Torch | sum: it only proves firefox isn't affected |
18:32.19 | sum | well, let's see xterm |
18:32.51 | Torch | sum: you might also look into running plain X without any DE or even WM |
18:33.07 | sum | Torch: running fluxbox and konsole has same problem |
18:33.22 | sum | xterm has the very same problems |
18:33.28 | sum | strange |
18:33.43 | tuxick | if i'd had to read the source for every bug i run into i'd spend 200 hours/day reading code |
18:33.44 | Torch | sum: and LANG is set to? |
18:33.46 | sum | so it seems to be x-related?0 |
18:34.12 | sum | Torch: empty |
18:34.18 | Torch | sum: set it, then. |
18:34.24 | sum | Torch: LC_CTYPE is set to de_DE.utf8 |
18:34.48 | Torch | sum: i'm no expert here... but shouldn't LANG always be set correctly? |
18:34.53 | jefkinz | sum - on the system that works, is LANg set to anything? |
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18:35.00 | jefkinz | *LANG |
18:35.27 | jefkinz | momesana: anything? |
18:35.44 | momesana | jefkinz: nope. I just got rid of the EE messages regarding synaptic |
18:35.55 | momesana | jefkinz: by removing the corresponding touchpad line from xorg. |
18:36.08 | jefkinz | hokay, ever used the script command? |
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18:36.35 | momesana | jefkinz: script command? |
18:36.41 | momesana | jefkinz: which one? |
18:36.44 | sum | jefkinz: its empty on both and setting it to de_DE.utf8 does not change anything |
18:36.56 | jefkinz | the "script" command (whose on first? ) |
18:37.20 | jefkinz | momesana: try man script |
18:37.32 | Sho_ | sum: Just to check, are you setting it in the environment you launch xterm from? |
18:37.54 | momesana | jefkinz: nope, never used it |
18:37.59 | sum | Sho_: i set it globaly and restart oneof my xsessions and login and then start kde and check it |
18:38.00 | Torch | sum: in other words, you can't just set it and type away ;-) |
18:38.18 | Sho_ | sum: ok ... maybe try with LC_ALL rather than LANG |
18:38.20 | sum | i will now try using a different DM like slim |
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18:38.34 | sum | Sho_: the locale settings are the same on both system so i think its not related to that |
18:38.52 | sum | the only difference i have now is slim on the working machine and kdm on theb roken oen |
18:38.54 | Sho_ | yeah, I bet it's an xmodmap problem or so |
18:39.01 | Sho_ | I tried what happens in xev? |
18:39.10 | jefkinz | start a script session in console, then issue an strace on kdm |
18:39.22 | momesana | ok |
18:39.26 | momesana | I'll try that |
18:39.47 | jefkinz | when you exit from the script session you should have a huge file of strace info |
18:40.23 | sum | Sho_: it shows up in xev correctly: http://pastebin.com/m771e6f66 |
18:40.39 | Sho_ | hmm |
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18:43.37 | sum | well using slim and logging in shows same problem but now something strange happens: |
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18:44.03 | sum | when i run xev it shows the samecharacters for the keys as before but they are now rendered unreadable... |
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18:45.16 | njathan | how do i install handbooks in KDE? is there a 'apt-get install' way of doing it? say i cannot find one for Amarok already installed... though khelpcenter is installed |
18:45.29 | jefkinz | momesana: ping |
18:45.30 | sum | well so this really does not seem like kde related any more |
18:45.41 | sum | thanks for all your help i will maybe check somewhere different |
18:45.58 | MinceR | njathan: probably the kde*-doc and/or kde*-doc-html packages contain them |
18:46.40 | momesana | jefkinz: sorry, I'll restart kde in a few seconds. just was asking about the virtual keyboard thing on #xorg |
18:46.42 | MinceR | (and *-doc, *-doc-html if the app itself wasn't in a kde* package) |
18:47.07 | jefkinz | momesana: I know this will sound crazy, but how much disk is free in the partition where /tmp is ? |
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18:48.10 | momesana | jefkinz: enough ... let me check |
18:48.23 | momesana | rootfs 176G 169G 6,8G 97% / |
18:48.33 | momesana | jefkinz: I am using a single partition for everything |
18:48.58 | momesana | jefkinz: btw, can you playback QuickTime videos? |
18:48.58 | momesana | jefkinz: I recorded the login procedure4 |
18:49.05 | momesana | jefkinz: they say a picture/video tells a thousand words |
18:49.14 | jefkinz | momesana: found a report that says old stuff in /tmp can cause kdm to not login and keep looping back to login screen, sound like you? |
18:49.47 | momesana | jefkinz: exactly |
18:49.54 | momesana | I'll delete everything from tmp then |
18:50.25 | jefkinz | do it as root, it will kikc the pins out from underneath some services. |
18:50.31 | jefkinz | *kick |
18:51.06 | momesana | :-) |
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18:52.25 | momesana | jefkinz: ftp://momesana.homelinux.org/MVI_0449.MOV |
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18:56.25 | Sho_ | sum: good luck |
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18:56.59 | sum | even when starting the x server from console with startx (locale showd on this very same console correct car |
18:57.01 | momesana | jefkinz: still the same issue :-( |
18:57.20 | sum | cahracter encoding), it does not work. by now i have copied hal configuration from workgin to broken machine |
18:57.24 | momesana | jefkinz: I double checked to see that anything is deleted in /tmp and that was the case |
19:00.06 | bendj | pinotree: Iiuc, you've commented here (http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174354) on the A4 issue, and suggest it IS (?) an upstream-Qt bug. But that bug is Okular only -- no mention of Krita. Same issue? Different? Do you have a Qt bug reference that you're tracking? |
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19:01.07 | pinotree | no idea about krita, sorry |
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19:02.32 | bendj | pinotree: This (http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-6302) it? |
19:02.47 | momesana | jefkinz: did you see the video? |
19:03.00 | momesana | jefkinz: watch* the video |
19:03.28 | jefkinz | momesana: tried, vlc is not playing it. |
19:03.29 | pinotree | see the "this issue is replaced by..." |
19:04.02 | momesana | jefkinz: oh :-( |
19:04.16 | momesana | jefkinz: maybe I can turn it into a std. mpeg file |
19:04.33 | jefkinz | were all the dirs and links etc deleted from /tmp? |
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19:05.02 | momesana | jefkinz: yes |
19:05.10 | momesana | I used rm -rf /tmp/* |
19:05.25 | momesana | jefkinz: maybe it left out the ones starting with a dot |
19:05.38 | bendj | pinotree: Ok. It's "P2: Major", so there's hope someone @Qt will pay attention. Then again, this apparently has been a problem for a very long time ... "-/ |
19:05.39 | jefkinz | right |
19:05.53 | jefkinz | cd /tmp;ls -la . |
19:07.16 | momesana | jefkinz: since I logged in alot of files were created ... |
19:07.34 | jefkinz | yes, they would be |
19:07.47 | momesana | jefkinz: I'll try again |
19:08.05 | jefkinz | cd /tmp; rm -rf .??* * |
19:08.23 | jefkinz | is dangerous, be careful |
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19:12.07 | momesana | jefkinz: yep I know ... I wiped off anything I had with that command a few years ago :-D |
19:12.20 | momesana | jefkinz: but I am carefull when I do it |
19:12.27 | momesana | I'll be back in a second |
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19:18.45 | momesana | jefkinz: didn't help |
19:18.49 | momesana | jefkinz: :-( |
19:19.16 | momesana | jefkinz: and can you playback this file: ftp://momesana.homelinux.org/video.avi ? |
19:22.42 | jefkinz | sorry - was afk |
19:22.44 | jefkinz | looking |
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19:29.14 | jefkinz | vlc cant access the file |
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19:29.27 | momesana | jefkinz: download the file first |
19:29.27 | jefkinz | ftp probab;y blocked at the firewall here |
19:29.43 | Torch | (wget can) |
19:30.07 | jefkinz | nope |
19:30.18 | jefkinz | first thing I tried. :( |
19:30.34 | jefkinz | Torch: can you wget the file? |
19:30.41 | Torch | jefkinz: yes |
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19:31.01 | momesana | jefkinz: you can go to ftp://momesana.homelinux.org but can't download the file? |
19:31.09 | jefkinz | aha - i tried wget http, not wget ftp. its coming in |
19:31.35 | momesana | :) |
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19:33.17 | jefkinz | momesana: ok, its just kdm, login attempt, kdm again. |
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19:33.43 | momesana | jefkinz: yep |
19:34.07 | momesana | jefkinz: and since gdm perfectly works the issue must lie withing kdm, not X or whatever there is |
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19:39.09 | jefkinz | momesana: set the kdm debug value to 263, in the file /etc/X11/startDM.sh, reboot the system and try logging in, then see what the kdm log holds |
19:39.48 | momesana | jefkinz: can I also start kdm manually as root instead of modifying the startDM.sh file? |
19:39.53 | momesana | jefkinz: should be the same |
19:40.04 | momesana | I could run kdm -debug 263 then |
19:40.12 | jefkinz | <PROTECTED> |
19:40.18 | jefkinz | its very much NOT the same. :-) |
19:40.34 | jefkinz | but you can try it, see if we get anything |
19:40.34 | momesana | jefkinz: hm. Ok |
19:40.40 | jefkinz | its a faster test, |
19:40.48 | jefkinz | <PROTECTED> |
19:40.57 | momesana | jefkinz: well, if I try its the same thing ... the output is also being written to /var/log/kdm.log |
19:41.04 | momesana | ok |
19:41.21 | momesana | shall I use 0x263 or is that a decimal parameter? |
19:41.32 | jefkinz | decimal |
19:41.35 | momesana | ok |
19:41.53 | jefkinz | (or dekimal for you twain spellers.. :-) ) |
19:42.08 | momesana | :-D |
19:42.09 | jefkinz | erp - i mean desimal |
19:42.14 | jefkinz | :) |
19:42.20 | momesana | ok, I'll be back in a second |
19:42.27 | jefkinz | runs and hides |
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19:54.00 | jefkinz | momesana: check the files /var/log/debug.log and /var/log/daemon.log to see if kdm spit anything into them as well. according to the kdm developer, those files are usied in addition to kdm.log |
19:54.11 | momesana | jefkinz: oh |
19:54.13 | jefkinz | *used |
19:54.27 | momesana | ok, the kdm log contained the usual suspects |
19:54.32 | momesana | I'll check the other logs then |
19:55.47 | momesana | jefkinz: those are syslog files I think |
19:55.54 | momesana | I am using metalog if I am not mistaken |
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19:57.47 | momesana | jefkinz: I found something interesting in /var/log/everything/current |
19:57.51 | momesana | jefkinz: http://pastebin.ca/1728729 |
19:58.14 | Axtroz | Hey all. I am trying to compile kde from svn but it can't find Shared Desktop Ontologies package which I installed. My OS is Slackware-current. Any advice on how to make kdelibs to find the package? |
19:59.36 | jefkinz | momesana: um - how long did you use kdm before thise failure showed up? |
19:59.42 | momesana | jefkinz: but they may be related to some attempts I made to change the startDM script and put the -debug line into the wrong place ... |
19:59.51 | momesana | jefkinz: well, for years |
20:00.08 | jefkinz | -debug goes on the line which invokes kdm as an argument to kdm. |
20:00.40 | momesana | jefkinz: I had this line: |
20:00.42 | momesana | start-stop-daemon --start --exec ${EXEC} \ |
20:00.43 | momesana | ${NAME:+--name} ${NAME} ${PIDFILE:+--pidfile} ${PIDFILE} || \ |
20:00.45 | momesana | eerror "ERROR: could not start the Display Manager" |
20:01.24 | momesana | and changed the second line into ${NAME:+--name -debug 263} ${NAME} ... |
20:01.43 | momesana | jefkinz: will be back in a second |
20:01.48 | jefkinz | hang on |
20:01.59 | jefkinz | NAME:blah sets NAME to blah IFF NAME is empty. |
20:02.05 | jefkinz | arg! |
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20:04.23 | momesana | jefkinz: the ConsoleKit line must be the key |
20:05.16 | jefkinz | momesana: you on gentoo? |
20:05.36 | momesana | jefkinz: I just tried it again with the original startDM.sh script and it outputted the errormessage I pasted above ()Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to execute program /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success |
20:05.40 | momesana | jefkinz: yes, gentoo |
20:05.44 | jefkinz | momesana: mess of stuff related to this issue here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-722264-start-925.html |
20:06.12 | jefkinz | looks like you may have to emerge in a specific order??? |
20:06.51 | jefkinz | "update: I've reemerged dbus and now it works fine." < from forum |
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20:07.42 | tuxick | heh |
20:08.09 | momesana | jefkinz: same issue but I don't see any solution offered there |
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20:08.19 | momesana | jefkinz: I'll uninstall and install consolekit again ... |
20:08.33 | momesana | maybe something went wrong during the backup process |
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20:12.46 | jefkinz | momesana: by the way - your NAME: construct in the DM script will not do what you wanted, I think... |
20:13.33 | momesana | jefkinz: well, I already thought this would be the case :-D |
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20:13.51 | jefkinz | the NAME:string contrsuct only sets NAME when NAME is unset or null |
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20:14.10 | jefkinz | ${parameter:-word} Use Default Values. If parameter is unset or null, the expansion of word is substituted. Otherwise, the value of parameter is substituted. |
20:14.22 | momesana | ah! |
20:14.37 | momesana | maybe I should have used the second NAME entry then |
20:14.44 | jefkinz | so save the original script, and make a version with command hardcoded in. |
20:14.57 | jefkinz | (and put the original back when your done. :-) ) |
20:15.03 | momesana | jefkinz: ok, but I really think that the ConsoleKit error is the cause for this |
20:15.03 | jefkinz | *you're |
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20:15.20 | jefkinz | momesana: i tend to agree. :-0 |
20:15.22 | jefkinz | :-) |
20:15.39 | momesana | I'll quickly ask the #gentoo guys. Maybe someone has got a clue |
20:15.50 | jefkinz | I just had to let you know that the script change may not have changed anything. [ so to speak... ;-) ] |
20:15.55 | momesana | jefkinz: or, wait ... I'll restart KDe and ask then ... |
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20:16.03 | silver_hook | Hullo. Can anyone here help me write a Kross script in Python for KTorrent? The #ktorrent channel is de facto dead (yes, I've been hogging it for two days now) :\ |
20:16.06 | jefkinz | good luck, i gotta go |
20:16.15 | momesana | jefkinz: thank you very much for your help |
20:16.28 | jefkinz | yes, isnet you in many useless directions... ;-D |
20:16.29 | silver_hook | momesana: What's your problem? |
20:16.33 | jefkinz | *I sent |
20:16.49 | momesana | jefkinz: I wouldn't have checked the other logs if you hadn't told me about it :-) |
20:16.59 | momesana | silver_hook: well, I have a problem with kdm. Can't log in ... |
20:17.18 | momesana | silver_hook: check out this video I just made: ftp://momesana.homelinux.org/video.avi |
20:17.25 | silver_hook | Hmm, if you think it's a Gentoo+KDE related problem, your best bed is #gentoo-kde |
20:17.38 | momesana | silver_hook: here is a description of the problem: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6110463.html#6110463 |
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20:18.50 | momesana | silver_hook: well, I can login using gdm, but it is probably a gentoo related problem. KDM has been working great for years, but today I had to resize my linux partition so I backed up everything and restored it after the partitioning. Everything worked fine except I couldn't log in using kdm though startkde and gdm work |
20:19.21 | momesana | silver_hook: the crucial error message is this: http://pastebin.ca/1728729 |
20:22.04 | silver_hook | Hmmm, that does sound like a problem to ask the distro guys |
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20:22.22 | momesana | silver_hook: I am asking but noone has answered yet :-) |
20:22.48 | silver_hook | 'equery belongs /usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper' |
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20:23.52 | silver_hook | What do you get if you run that command in the console? |
20:24.48 | momesana | silver_hook: I already reemerged those packages |
20:24.57 | momesana | both dbus and consolekit |
20:25.05 | silver_hook | Did you run 'revdep-rebuild' as well? |
20:25.07 | momesana | the launch-helper belongs to dbus |
20:25.21 | momesana | silver_hook: revdep-rebuild catches binary-incompatibilities |
20:25.27 | momesana | silver_hook: that's not an issue here |
20:25.38 | silver_hook | Did you restart the DBus RC script? |
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20:26.41 | rdieter | momesana: it may or may not be related, but a recent hal-0.5.14 update in fedora caused similar consolekit failures. rolling back to 0.5.13 (and later patching/fixing ConsoleKit) helped for me. |
20:26.42 | momesana | silver_hook: not yet |
20:26.58 | silver_hook | momesana: Try restarting the dbus script then... |
20:27.25 | momesana | rdieter: I got the issue since I archived and restored the system. No updates where done so it must be a strange issue caused by the archiving process |
20:27.28 | silver_hook | '/etc/init.d/dbus restart' |
20:27.29 | momesana | silver_hook: ok |
20:28.03 | silver_hook | Soooo, is there any KTorrent wiz? |
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20:28.15 | silver_hook | Or at least a Python (or Kross) guy? |
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20:30.56 | momesana | thank you guys. reemerged consolekit and dbus, restarted both initscripts ... and now it works again (kdm works again) |
20:30.58 | momesana | :-d |
20:31.04 | silver_hook | No problem :] |
20:31.15 | momesana | :-D damn, that was a strange problem |
20:31.23 | silver_hook | momesana: You wouldn't happen to know anything about KTorrent scripting, would you? ;) |
20:31.41 | momesana | silver_hook: I use ktorrent but never done any scripting on it |
20:31.48 | momesana | silver_hook: does it use python? |
20:31.50 | silver_hook | Meh, I think I've had that problem already :P |
20:32.16 | silver_hook | momesana: It uses Kross â so it (via Kross) can use either Python, Ruby, JavaScript... |
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20:33.35 | silver_hook | I'm trying to do it in Python ...but a) I suck at coding and b) KTorrent sucks at documentation :P |
20:33.48 | momesana | hehe |
20:34.02 | momesana | silver_hook: Well, I haven't done Python script for a looooooooooooooooooooooong time |
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20:34.21 | momesana | silver_hook: but I program quite a lot in C++ and if you tell me what exactly you want to do ... maybe I can help ya |
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20:35.01 | ali_devil | hey guys can anyone help me with bypassing internet censorship |
20:35.21 | momesana | ali_devil: use tor |
20:35.29 | momesana | ali_devil: in combination with privoxy |
20:35.35 | momesana | ali_devil: where are you located? iran? |
20:35.55 | ali_devil | yes iran |
20:36.04 | momesana | ali_devil: pas, tor va privoxy ro nasb kon. |
20:36.04 | Axtroz | anyone managed to build kdelibs from the svn trunk with shared-desktop-ontologies? I have the ontologies installed but kdelibs can't seem to find it |
20:36.22 | momesana | ali_devil: albate internetet ro shadidan yavaash mikone. Omidvaaram dastres be dsl daari |
20:36.29 | ali_devil | nemitoonam configure konam |
20:36.36 | momesana | ali_devil: che distroyi daari? |
20:36.42 | ali_devil | nasb hastan |
20:37.00 | momesana | ali_devil: distributionet chie? debian, ubuntu, gentoo? |
20:37.01 | ali_devil | zire diplom sohbat kon :D |
20:37.13 | momesana | ali_devil: baa linux daari kaar mikoni? |
20:37.20 | ali_devil | fedooora |
20:37.31 | ali_devil | are |
20:37.39 | silver_hook | ali_devil: http://www.torproject.org/ |
20:37.44 | momesana | ali_devil: man gentoo daaram, baa redhat / fedora ta be haal kaar nakardam |
20:37.55 | momesana | silver_hook: he says he already installed both tor and privoxy |
20:38.14 | silver_hook | momesana: Oh, well... good luck then. |
20:38.21 | momesana | silver_hook: :-) |
20:38.29 | momesana | ali_devil: bebin, age kaare fouri daari ... |
20:38.43 | momesana | ali_devil: mitooni roo systeme man login koni ... az injaa internet ro begardi ... |
20:38.47 | momesana | ali_devil: dsl daari? |
20:39.02 | momesana | ali_devil: age fouri nist, privoxy o tor ro baayad raah bendaazim |
20:39.18 | ali_devil | na dsl nadram |
20:39.23 | momesana | ali_devil: man 6 maah pish iran boodam, nasb o tanzimesh kardam ... ama badesh ke bargashtam alman dige paakesh kardam |
20:39.50 | momesana | ali_devil: hm ... midooni ke soratet vahshatnaak paayin mire vaghti az privoxy va tor estefade koni |
20:39.57 | ali_devil | man mobtadiam too linux 1 sale shoroo kardam |
20:40.24 | ali_devil | mohem nist filterha beshkane |
20:40.35 | momesana | ali_devil: hm. Tanzim kardanesh kheili sakht nist. Moshkelet ine ke harchi estefaade koni ... sorate internetet javaabe kaareto nemide |
20:40.46 | momesana | ali_devil: bebin ... ye kaari kon |
20:41.00 | momesana | ali_devil: aval bebin aayaa too fedora mitooni NXclient ro nasb koni yaa na |
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20:41.32 | ali_devil | :(( |
20:41.44 | momesana | ali_devil: intori az tarighe computere man mitooni online beshi va ingoone filterhaa ro bypass mikono |
20:41.55 | momesana | gerye nakon baba, dorost mishe ;-) |
20:42.01 | momesana | ali_devil: raasti, tehraani? |
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20:44.48 | ali_devil | tnx guys |
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21:01.53 | amstan | hey guys, how do you make jack work with phonon |
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21:02.19 | amstan | i have a special jack device now for alsa, any alsa program can play through jack, but phonon doesn't want to detect it |
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21:13.16 | amstan | anyone? |
21:13.28 | ali_devil | what ? |
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21:13.59 | amstan | how do you make jack work with phonon |
21:14.03 | amstan | <PROTECTED> |
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21:15.50 | ali_devil | i dont know lot but i think u ve got to change from hardware on system tab |
21:15.53 | ali_devil | fedora ? |
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21:16.59 | ali_devil | using what disturb ? |
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21:25.22 | Shura | Hi, is-there a speech recognition tool in KDE ? |
21:25.41 | ali_devil | i wanna know that too |
21:26.30 | thiago_home | yes, there used to be one at least |
21:26.53 | thiago_home | built into khotkeys |
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21:27.33 | Shura | Used to ? |
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21:30.27 | ali_devil | no i mean i`m gay :D |
21:30.40 | ali_devil | shit type wrong |
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21:34.00 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
21:34.14 | Ronis_BR | what is the best alternative for a WebKit based KDE browser |
21:34.37 | amstan | Ronis_BR: i think aurora tries to be a qt and webkit browser |
21:34.45 | amstan | but it's just 0.2 |
21:34.53 | thiago_home | that's "arora" |
21:34.54 | thiago_home | there's no u |
21:35.02 | amstan | what thiago_home said |
21:35.25 | amstan | konqueror uses khtml, which is like a parent to webkit, so you might want to try that |
21:35.38 | Ronis_BR | khtml is too bad |
21:35.43 | Ronis_BR | I can't access some important sites |
21:35.58 | amstan | non-kde browsers include epiphany(gtk+webkit) and chromium |
21:35.58 | Ronis_BR | does arora can be integrated with KDE? |
21:36.20 | momesana | amstan: khtml has long been eclipsed by webkit |
21:36.20 | Ronis_BR | I'm using chromium right now but it isn't well integrated with kde |
21:36.39 | Ronis_BR | and webkit-kpart for konqueror still lacking very important features |
21:37.05 | amstan | Ronis_BR: i know the feeling, but i'm unaware of anything kdeish other than konqueror |
21:37.09 | thiago_home | arora tries to be integrated |
21:37.12 | thiago_home | but there's also rekonq |
21:37.28 | amstan | arora tries to be lightweight, i just checked, they don't even have KIOslaves |
21:37.35 | Ronis_BR | rekonq isn't good also :( there isn't spell checking |
21:38.11 | thiago_home | spellchecking is a khtml thing |
21:38.17 | thiago_home | if you don't use khtml, you won't get spellchecking |
21:38.42 | Ronis_BR | thiago_home: chromium has spell checking |
21:39.11 | amstan | i would suggest chromium, it's more integrated than even firefox |
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21:39.26 | amstan | i remember firefox asking me what to open files with every time i downloaded something |
21:39.35 | amstan | chromium just looks in defaults |
21:40.29 | Ronis_BR | amstan: yes, but that GTK open dialog is bad :( |
21:40.54 | amstan | that too |
21:40.56 | amstan | oh god |
21:40.58 | amstan | lol |
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21:41.28 | Ronis_BR | the best solution is webkit-kpart, but it seems to be unmantained |
21:41.33 | yousha | hi |
21:41.35 | yousha | all |
21:41.43 | ali_gay | hey |
21:41.54 | yousha | how i can install plasma theme in kde4 |
21:41.58 | yousha | kde 4.3 |
21:42.04 | oneforall | weird I rarely get that problem of it asking me |
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21:42.38 | oneforall | and I totally dislike the gtk style open dialog box |
21:43.58 | yousha | i can install gtk theme |
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21:44.35 | yousha | oneforall: sudo pacman -Sy qtcurve-gtk2 qtcurve-kde4 |
21:44.55 | pinotree | magic commands that here mean nothing :) |
21:45.03 | yousha | sry |
21:45.32 | stoner | hello, |
21:45.42 | stoner | is there a way maybe even in qt/kde of executing a command in c++ and getting the stdout data from that command |
21:45.54 | pinotree | stoner: #qt |
21:46.00 | thiago_home | stoner: your question doesn't make sense |
21:46.12 | thiago_home | if you execute C++ code, the code gets executed and does what you wrote it to do. |
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21:47.30 | stoner | you know like when you execute a command using the system fuction |
21:47.37 | stoner | from inside your program |
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21:47.48 | pinotree | yousha: use plasmapkg in a terminal to cleanly install it: plasmapkg --type theme --install yourtheme.zip |
21:48.03 | ali_gay | what do u mean |
21:48.03 | pinotree | (`plasmapkg --help` for its help) |
21:48.14 | yousha | pinotree: Ty Dude :X |
21:48.35 | QwertyM | hm, my kate isn't auto-indenting anymore, any idea what I must (re)enable? Indentation mode is set to Python (Tried normal too) |
21:49.10 | QwertyM | upon a newline, it goes back to the zero indentation level, not to the current level |
21:49.10 | stoner | ill try #qt |
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21:52.15 | QwertyM | ah, the tools > indentation one looked unselected (although the config dialog has the mode set), selecting python there again solved it.. |
21:52.16 | ali_gay | lets see if any one agreed with gnome ? |
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21:57.40 | rohdef | how do I make KDE connect to my mobile broadband from the network manager? |
21:57.49 | rohdef | when I click the connection nothing happens |
21:58.19 | rohdef | I can see KDE detects the modem and all that, and if I remember right the pincode for the modem is also added to the settings |
21:59.40 | thiago_home | ask your distribution |
21:59.45 | thiago_home | network manager is their business |
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22:01.33 | ali_devil | how i configure privoxy? |
22:01.50 | thiago_home | ali_devil: not a KDE question. |
22:02.25 | ali_devil | how i bypass internet censorship in KDE ? |
22:02.30 | rohdef | thiago_home, ok, thanks |
22:02.41 | thiago_home | ali_devil: not a KDE question. |
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22:41.04 | x127 | hello |
22:41.08 | x127 | what backend does okular use for printing to postscript files, and is there any way to use that backend from the cli? |
22:41.42 | x127 | i tried ghostscript, but whatever it is that okular uses works better for me |
22:41.49 | thiago_home | printing what to postscript? |
22:41.52 | pinotree | okular uses ghostscript |
22:42.08 | thiago_home | postscript to postscript, for example, has no transformations :-) |
22:42.30 | x127 | pdf to postscript |
22:43.01 | thiago_home | okular uses poppler to parse the PDF |
22:43.22 | thiago_home | but can't CUPS take PDF directly? |
22:43.29 | x127 | okular does not execute the gs binary, it seems. how would I find out which gs-parameters are used? |
22:43.32 | pinotree | nope (otherwise...) |
22:43.48 | pinotree | x127: ok, what is the real question? |
22:44.21 | x127 | i have a pdf and want to print single pages to ps |
22:44.51 | Marchitos | i am testing kde 4.3.85 ( 4.4 beta 2) |
22:44.56 | Marchitos | does kmail need to use akonadi? |
22:45.11 | thiago_home | Marchitos: yes |
22:45.14 | x127 | but i want to do it from the shell since i want to avoid clicking hundreds of times |
22:45.31 | Marchitos | but... |
22:45.42 | thiago_home | Marchitos: there is no "but" |
22:45.43 | pinotree | you don't need okular for that, you can use poppler's pdftops util |
22:45.58 | x127 | okay, i will try that. thanks |
22:46.08 | Marchitos | which is the advantage for an home user? |
22:46.15 | thiago_home | Marchitos: "it works" |
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22:46.33 | Marchitos | yes.. |
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22:46.43 | Marchitos | but you have mysql open.. |
22:46.48 | Marchitos | and other process.. |
22:46.49 | thiago_home | and what's the problem? |
22:47.14 | Marchitos | i can't understand why it's needed for an home user:) |
22:47.22 | thiago_home | because that's the architecture |
22:47.28 | thiago_home | all PIM data is saved in the database |
22:47.34 | Marchitos | ah so.. |
22:47.39 | thiago_home | centralised, so all applications can access the data easily |
22:47.39 | Marchitos | everything is in one place |
22:47.46 | Marchitos | ah good |
22:48.09 | Marchitos | do you have trunk? |
22:48.13 | thiago_home | yes |
22:48.16 | x127 | pinotree: cool, it works just fine. thanks |
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22:48.28 | pinotree | np |
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22:48.47 | Marchitos | i have a problem with tagging .. |
22:48.55 | Marchitos | i can't search tagged file |
22:49.36 | cleary | Marchitos: look under System Settings -> Advanced -> Desktop Search |
22:49.49 | Marchitos | yes |
22:49.50 | Marchitos | and? |
22:50.29 | cleary | What does it say under Desktop File Indexer? |
22:51.11 | Marchitos | active |
22:51.35 | Marchitos | indexing is fully working |
22:51.37 | Marchitos | i can tag files |
22:51.40 | Marchitos | save comment |
22:51.42 | Marchitos | etc |
22:51.44 | Marchitos | but i can't search |
22:51.48 | Marchitos | example: |
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22:51.59 | Marchitos | i tag a file with holiday |
22:52.06 | Marchitos | then i go into the search bar |
22:52.08 | cleary | "can't search", or "search returns no results"? |
22:52.17 | Marchitos | return no result |
22:53.17 | cleary | ok, I'm out of ideas then |
22:53.33 | Marchitos | do you use trunk? |
22:53.37 | cleary | nope |
22:53.59 | Marchitos | ahh |
22:54.01 | Marchitos | ok |
22:54.16 | cleary | that would have been a useful thing to mention at the beginning ;) |
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23:17.33 | jonnor | I have a thumbnailer (code at http://gitorious.org/oratools/oratools/trees/master/thumbnailer-kde) that I want to get upstream |
23:17.45 | jonnor | How should I approach this? What is the relevant project? |
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23:19.50 | melomane | knetworkmanager really really sucks, y kde team don't pay much attention to network manager, unforunately in their version milestone i dont c any effort on network manager |
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23:41.34 | Dashkal | I'm having a brain block. Can someone remind me of the name of the kde application for ripping/encoding audio cds? |
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23:48.46 | Dashkal | ahh, KAudioCreator, and it wasn't ported to kde4. k3b handles that now it seems. |
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23:58.07 | mschiff | Dashkal: kaudiocreator IS ported to kde4 |
23:59.16 | mschiff | hey my striggi thingi tells me it has indexed >10000 files and is utlilizing >169 MB of space... is there any application in kde 4.4 that can make use of that data? |