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| 00:36.55 | kaeser | Linus on KDE: "I used to be a KDE user. I thought KDE 4.0 was such a disaster, I switched to GNOME." |
| 00:37.46 | cleary | kaeser: this is more than a year old |
| 00:37.56 | cleary | salvin_: http://samwiseandthestereotypical.blogspot.com/2008/09/using-dbus-and-ksmserver-to-logout-and.html |
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| 00:39.52 | bsdunx | hello, i'm having some major issue with kde, if i do so much as move my mouse anywhere in kde it uses like 30% of 4 cpu cores |
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| 00:42.52 | bsdunx | ditto scrollbars |
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| 00:43.40 | bsdunx | hello, i'm having some major issue with kde, if i do so much as move my mouse anywhere in kde it uses like 30% of 4 cpu cores, scrolling a page in konq lags for seconds etc |
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| 00:47.08 | bsdunx | disabling composiing doesnt help, neither does low display low cpu settings |
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| 00:52.49 | Half-Left | bsdunx: What shows as taking the CPU? |
| 00:53.01 | bsdunx | the app i have the mouse over and x |
| 00:53.22 | bsdunx | if i move over another kde app that app sucks cpu |
| 00:53.39 | Half-Left | In the system activity. What does it show? |
| 00:54.07 | bsdunx | wheres that? |
| 00:54.17 | Half-Left | Ctrl, Esc |
| 00:54.43 | bsdunx | nothing |
| 00:54.59 | bsdunx | the binding doesnt launch anything |
| 00:56.02 | bsdunx | ive also disabled nepomuk etc it was making the system totally unusable |
| 00:57.29 | Half-Left | Alt, F2? |
| 00:57.48 | bsdunx | what is the binary name? |
| 00:58.00 | Half-Left | Can you Alt, F2? |
| 00:58.09 | bsdunx | the binding doesnt launch anything |
| 00:58.23 | Half-Left | run "krunner" |
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| 00:59.52 | bsdunx | the app i move the mouse over takes it all |
| 01:00.00 | bsdunx | whichever that happens to be |
| 01:00.34 | bsdunx | and x |
| 01:00.36 | bsdunx | as i said |
| 01:02.02 | Half-Left | Well, that's xorg then, KDE can't do anything about that |
| 01:02.18 | bsdunx | this doesnt happen in any other DE i use |
| 01:02.18 | Half-Left | Maybe some graphics driver issue |
| 01:02.39 | Half-Left | Well, that because other DE's are different |
| 01:03.01 | Half-Left | KDE4 can hit xorg bugs that they won't |
| 01:03.04 | fire`lala | try turning of compositing bsdunx |
| 01:03.08 | bsdunx | it is off |
| 01:03.18 | fire`lala | then I have really no idea |
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| 01:03.32 | bsdunx | it runs the same enabled |
| 01:03.37 | bsdunx | compositing doesnt make it worse |
| 01:04.14 | Half-Left | Try a new user |
| 01:04.25 | cleary | bsdunx: I take it you're running a bsd distro? |
| 01:04.49 | bsdunx | this system is running Linux |
| 01:04.56 | cleary | which distro? |
| 01:04.59 | bsdunx | gentoo |
| 01:05.18 | cleary | -> that's where the bug request needs to go |
| 01:05.35 | cleary | what version of kde? |
| 01:06.03 | bsdunx | 4.1 through 4.4rc |
| 01:06.09 | bsdunx | i keep trying each release |
| 01:06.16 | cleary | it's definitely a gentoo issue then |
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| 01:07.01 | bsdunx | I could installed freebsd on this now that it has 64bit nv drivers, but it's prolly my card |
| 01:07.23 | Half-Left | Try another user as I said |
| 01:07.37 | cleary | have you tried using nvidia proprietary driver? |
| 01:07.53 | bsdunx | yes |
| 01:08.06 | cleary | same problem? |
| 01:08.19 | bsdunx | that's waht I am using |
| 01:08.27 | cleary | btw, when you said 'nv' I assume you mean the open source nvidia driver of the same name |
| 01:08.45 | cleary | did you mean nv as in a shorter way to type nvidia? |
| 01:08.50 | bsdunx | no the binary blobs |
| 01:09.09 | cleary | right, well, have you tried the open source nv driver then? |
| 01:09.27 | bsdunx | 3d is a req on this system |
| 01:09.39 | cleary | bsdunx: for the sake of troubleshooting only |
| 01:09.53 | bsdunx | ill try to rule it out ya |
| 01:09.57 | cleary | determine whether it's a driver (software) problem, or hardware |
| 01:10.16 | cleary | if nv works, you could try on older nvidia blob |
| 01:10.24 | cleary | (or newer if one exists) |
| 01:11.30 | bsdunx | it's supposedly been fixed, but they probably mean on 500$ cards |
| 01:11.56 | bsdunx | brb |
| 01:12.08 | cleary | do you know what the issue is then? |
| 01:12.12 | cleary | ... |
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| 02:34.27 | TomJ | I set up a new widget on my Plasma dashboard, now every time I load KDE Plasma crashes, won't restart, and therefore I can't remove the widget that's causing the crash. how can I get rid of it manually? |
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| 04:13.53 | bourn3 | heya :-) can anyone tell me how can i work with KDE in this google summer of code ? |
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| 04:21.14 | troy | bourn3: one second - trying to find you a contact |
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| 04:22.53 | troy | bourn3: you might want to join #kde-devel and ask there as well, especially if you have a project in mind |
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| 04:38.59 | troy | boubbin: #kde-gsoc |
| 04:39.29 | troy | argh - nevermind, sorry boubbin |
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| 05:13.13 | kleanchap | Yesterday I was looking at different Window Managers and some of the KDE screenshots stood out (with very little explanation of vector graphics). Very nice eye candy. Anyone using the KDE vector graphics stuff? |
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| 05:13.29 | kleanchap | I am running KDE on Slackware 13. |
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| 05:55.22 | Tatsh | i'm having trouble with CPU scalign |
| 05:55.48 | Tatsh | sometimes i can set with cpufreq-set successfully to 2.1GHz (my max) |
| 05:55.56 | Tatsh | but then seconds later it's back to 525MHz (min) |
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| 05:56.10 | Tatsh | and it says will be running between 525 and 525 |
| 05:56.19 | Tatsh | would this have anything to do with powerdevil misconfigured? |
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| 05:59.03 | caf4926 | Tatsh: Have you set the cpu scaling to Performance |
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| 05:59.20 | Tatsh | in powerdevil or cpufreq? |
| 05:59.25 | Tatsh | both are userspace |
| 05:59.35 | caf4926 | in powerdevil |
| 05:59.48 | caf4926 | edit profile |
| 06:00.00 | caf4926 | cpu and system tab |
| 06:01.00 | Tatsh | yes |
| 06:01.07 | Tatsh | system powersaving scheme: performance |
| 06:01.14 | Tatsh | CPU frequency scaling policy: Userspace |
| 06:01.30 | caf4926 | yes but in the cpu section |
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| 06:01.47 | caf4926 | set it to performance |
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| 06:02.47 | Tatsh | ok |
| 06:02.51 | Tatsh | so i did that, hit apply |
| 06:03.00 | Tatsh | still says current policy: frequency should be within 525 MHz and 525 MHz. |
| 06:03.04 | Tatsh | in cpufreq-info |
| 06:03.15 | Tatsh | which doesn't make any sense and yes my computer is going really slow as a resul |
| 06:03.55 | caf4926 | in sysinfo:/ |
| 06:04.13 | caf4926 | does it show it scaled down there |
| 06:04.14 | Tatsh | i don't have that |
| 06:04.17 | Tatsh | not suse here |
| 06:04.29 | caf4926 | open k |
| 06:04.37 | caf4926 | type it there |
| 06:05.24 | Tatsh | uh where? |
| 06:05.34 | Tatsh | you said go to the K menu or open konqueror? |
| 06:05.37 | caf4926 | open konq |
| 06:05.46 | caf4926 | in the address bar |
| 06:05.49 | Tatsh | it says protocol not supported |
| 06:05.58 | caf4926 | sysinfo:/ |
| 06:06.25 | caf4926 | odd |
| 06:06.40 | caf4926 | hey sorry but I have to run |
| 06:07.04 | caf4926 | visitors |
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| 08:34.19 | titan_ark | Hey. I am using Kubuntu 9.10 and facing trouble with power management. I seem to be having a bug and was advised to ask here. |
| 08:35.35 | titan_ark | Hey. I am using Kubuntu 9.10 and facing trouble with power management. I seem to be having a bug and was advised to ask here. |
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| 08:47.17 | Torch | titan_ark: well, then just ask. |
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| 08:48.25 | titan_ark | Torch: everytime my notebook recovers from sleep powermanagement indicates that there is no battery |
| 08:48.37 | titan_ark | once i reboot it gets set right |
| 08:49.35 | titan_ark | any suggestions? |
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| 09:09.45 | Torch | titan_ark: you might want to post a diff between the output of lshal before and after the suspend/resume-cycle to a pastebin |
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| 09:11.05 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys .... how can in add styles/schemes for KDE 4.3 ? |
| 09:11.14 | titan_ark | Torch: okay |
| 09:12.38 | annma | cobra-the-joker: get some from your distro or on www.kde-look.org |
| 09:13.19 | cobra-the-joker | annma , i downloaded .... but i cant install /add |
| 09:14.04 | annma | paste url please so I can look then |
| 09:14.14 | cobra-the-joker | annma , ok |
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| 09:14.58 | cobra-the-joker | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Advanced+QtCurve+Scheme?content=45123 <-- qtcurve scheme |
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| 09:15.54 | titan_ark | Torch: I see this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1377391 |
| 09:15.59 | titan_ark | could you have a look |
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| 09:16.34 | Torch | titan_ark: huh? that's some ubuntuforums thread. |
| 09:17.13 | Jucato | cobra-the-joker: you need to have Qt Curve already installed and set as the Style (in System Settings -> Appearance) |
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| 09:17.26 | titan_ark | Torch: oh damn, sorry |
| 09:17.42 | cobra-the-joker | Jucato , i already installed qtcurve |
| 09:17.53 | cobra-the-joker | i just want to add this scheme |
| 09:18.41 | Jucato | cobra-the-joker: then go to System Settings -> Appearance -> Style. select qtcurve from the list. then there would be a "Configure" button beside it. use QtCurve's config dialog to import that scheme |
| 09:18.55 | annma | this seems to be KDE3 though |
| 09:19.12 | annma | the color scheme from the URL is kde3 |
| 09:19.30 | titan_ark | Torch: it seems to be a bug that has been fixed in the latest development kernel |
| 09:19.34 | titan_ark | will have to wait for it |
| 09:20.12 | alienBOB | troy: I heard from alphageek that you gave an impressive walkthrough of KDE4.4.rc2 in your LUG meeting last night :-) |
| 09:20.19 | cobra-the-joker | Jucato , ooh ...thanx a lot ... theres tons of themes here |
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| 09:49.54 | siri1 | hi all |
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| 09:55.19 | ikrabbe | Hi, I have a quite custom setup here with ratpoison wm running in a dbus-launch env. But when I start "kfmclient newTab bla.html" it uses a new window every time. What's up here, what do I need? |
| 09:55.42 | ikrabbe | btw. currently I'm at kde-4.3.3 |
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| 10:13.37 | cire | Hi, I really like kde4, there is a lot of improvement over kde3. What I would like to have as an additional feature is a global shortcut for kmix which controls balance. Is there a place like a wishlist where I could post that, or is this a minor feature which won't be implemented? |
| 10:14.19 | Torch | cire: there is a place for wishlists. |
| 10:14.20 | cire | Or am I able to implement it on my own without changing kde sources? e.g. a shortcut configuration file with actions triggered? |
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| 10:14.49 | Torch | cire: go to bugs.kde.org (create an account if you don't have one) and file a bug with severity "wishlist" |
| 10:15.09 | cire | okay, thank you Torch |
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| 10:15.19 | ikrabbe | when I run "kfmclient newTab xy.html", an existing konqueror window should be reused, shouldn't it ? does it work somewhere (try to start through a konsole shell window) |
| 10:15.27 | Torch | ikrabbe: works for me |
| 10:15.41 | ikrabbe | hmm, maybe I need a ksmserver in the back |
| 10:18.14 | Torch | ikrabbe: what does echo $KDE_SESSION_VERSION give you? |
| 10:19.37 | ikrabbe | that might be the problem. It gives nothing. I use `dbus-launch /usr/bin/ratpoison', maybe I should use `dbus-launch ksmserver -w /usr/bin/ratpoison' |
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| 10:20.11 | ikrabbe | in my .xinitrc |
| 10:20.38 | ikrabbe | I though the KDE programs use plain dbus communication |
| 10:21.03 | ikrabbe | env DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS |
| 10:21.34 | ikrabbe | am I able to start a ksmserver after the wm has been started? |
| 10:22.26 | ikrabbe | I might replace my running wm by "ratpoison -c restart" |
| 10:22.40 | ikrabbe | but I don't think that ksmserver -w is able to pass arguments |
| 10:25.34 | cire | Torch: did it, thanks again. |
| 10:25.55 | Torch | cire: yw |
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| 10:36.01 | ikrabbe | I will try to restart now |
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| 11:05.28 | cire | doesn't dolphin use exif tags somehow? looking at an image's properties, I do not get shown any exif properties. |
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| 11:08.50 | Kolia | cire: it would make more sense to visualize such informtaion in an image viewer |
| 11:08.57 | Kolia | cire: gwenview does |
| 11:09.33 | cire | I know, but if one wants quickly to know when this image was shot, it would be nice to have a sidebar with those exif things. Otherwise you have to spawn an application |
| 11:10.36 | Kolia | cire: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3843 |
| 11:12.06 | cire | cool, thanks Kolia |
| 11:12.44 | Kolia | cire: http://ppenz.blogspot.com/2009/04/information-panel.html |
| 11:12.56 | Kolia | looks like it could be there |
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| 11:14.19 | Kolia | cire: looks like you need to activate nepomuk if you haven't done so |
| 11:14.33 | cire | that's what I am doing right now ;) |
| 11:17.24 | Kolia | cire: i can confirm you it's working here :) |
| 11:17.40 | cire | Strigi doesn't work (cannot be started). Which packages do I need for having it running? |
| 11:18.36 | Kolia | cire: which distrib? |
| 11:18.46 | cire | sidux/debian sid |
| 11:19.18 | Kolia | cire: search for virtuoso-drivers and virtuoso-server |
| 11:19.34 | cire | virtuoso? ok... never heard that. |
| 11:19.38 | Kolia | i think they are the necessary packages in Kubuntu, so might be the same |
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| 11:20.48 | cire | cannot find anything matching virtuoso |
| 11:21.39 | Kolia | cire: better ask on your distro channel then |
| 11:21.43 | cire | I am now installing strigi* |
| 11:22.19 | urkud | virtuoso is the only reliable backend for nepomuk |
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| 11:23.13 | Kolia | urkud: which distrib are you using? |
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| 11:23.27 | urkud | exherbo |
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| 11:23.50 | urkud | I don't want to mention sesame2 because I don't like java |
| 11:24.06 | Kolia | well virtuoso is the only recommanded anyway no? |
| 11:25.10 | urkud | AFAIK, yes. At least I know that redland is too slow |
| 11:25.21 | urkud | sesame2 needs jvm |
| 11:26.09 | Kolia | iirc they've been both "rejected", virtuoso is the champion now. |
| 11:26.57 | urkud | So, cire, you need virtuoso |
| 11:27.16 | cire | damn |
| 11:27.56 | cire | I first have to get used to those new terms... strigi, nepomuk, virtuoso.... I am confused |
| 11:29.04 | urkud | strigi: indexing library&service |
| 11:29.12 | urkud | nepomuk: metadata storage&query |
| 11:29.22 | urkud | virtuoso: the only recommended nepomuk backend |
| 11:29.46 | cire | okay, thanks |
| 11:29.59 | cire | I'll see if I find virtuoso packages somewhere |
| 11:32.05 | cire | what is soprano then? |
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| 11:32.52 | cire | and sesame2... oh my god, I will have to buy a book ;) |
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| 11:34.41 | urkud | soprano is Qt RDF library used in nepomuk |
| 11:34.49 | urkud | And you can forget about sesame2 |
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| 11:35.16 | cire | okay, I see |
| 11:36.23 | urkud | And yes, if you want to use new features you should either find a distro that do all packages quickly or to learn all these names |
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| 12:27.39 | pinotree | kate is part of kdesdk |
| 12:28.09 | n16h7f0x | also in kde4 rite? |
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| 14:16.00 | SolarWar | I have a task bar that is large enough to display items on multiple lines, however the reason I made it so large was so that I could see the large window icons. Anwyay to turn off multiple lines in the task bar? |
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| 14:23.18 | get | hi all |
| 14:23.47 | get | how to set up an initial desktop for future users with some desktop icons, and addons? |
| 14:23.53 | get | any tuto online? |
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| 14:27.45 | annma | get: explain better? |
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| 14:30.36 | get | annma: i need to set up an initial skel for new users on my system, so once i create a new user, this user becames initial desktop icons,plugins and so on. |
| 14:30.44 | get | now im on slackware 13 |
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| 14:31.00 | get | it grows a default kde4.2 desktop |
| 14:31.05 | get | without any icons |
| 14:31.36 | get | so, the idea is, to add a new user, with firefox icon, trash, ram indicator, disk indicator and so on |
| 14:31.52 | get | if you understand what i mean |
| 14:32.01 | annma | drag any icons from the K menu to where yo uwan tthem |
| 14:32.20 | annma | and use plasma applets to get ram indicator and such if yo uwant |
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| 14:33.01 | Kolia | get: the question is about how to have it systematically applied for new users? |
| 14:33.52 | get | yes |
| 14:34.04 | get | i was thinkin about adding some files to /etc/skel |
| 14:34.14 | get | and create users with -k /etc/skel |
| 14:34.56 | get | but my trouble starts, once i copied the .kde folder of my user to skel, |
| 14:35.14 | get | because nepomuk on new user tries to start as "MYSUER" |
| 14:35.22 | get | and some others |
| 14:35.37 | get | so i discard this way |
| 14:35.59 | get | annma: thats just what i done, |
| 14:36.16 | get | but how to export this personal config to new users? |
| 14:36.52 | get | such as, default wallpaper and so on |
| 14:36.54 | Kolia | get: i don't know sorry, i was just helping to make your question clear for people who could know ;) |
| 14:37.06 | get | Kolia: no problem! |
| 14:37.10 | annma | desktop config is in plasma-desktop-appletsrc file |
| 14:37.11 | get | many thanks btw |
| 14:37.36 | get | so i only have to export those rc file? |
| 14:37.43 | annma | I would say so |
| 14:37.47 | get | mmm lemme try |
| 14:37.57 | get | brb .. |
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| 14:38.31 | Kolia | annma: any idea why widgets that appears in plasma-desktop-appletsrc wouldn't show on the desktop? |
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| 14:38.49 | annma | Kolia: such as? |
| 14:38.56 | annma | on the desktop or in panels |
| 14:39.13 | cibaer | someone else with fresh kde-svn build experience kmix crash? |
| 14:39.29 | annma | pastebin crash backtrace cibaer |
| 14:39.34 | ayevee | cibaer: kmix just failed to rebuild for me |
| 14:39.45 | annma | ayevee: revision? |
| 14:39.49 | annma | and KDE version? |
| 14:40.06 | cibaer | ayevee: the last patch is for me, I had no problems |
| 14:40.10 | cibaer | thats why I ask |
| 14:40.22 | cibaer | had received a mail from a crash, but is difficult to debug |
| 14:40.34 | annma | last patch is for you? what KDE version and what revision? |
| 14:40.38 | Kolia | annma: desktop only |
| 14:40.42 | cibaer | for=from |
| 14:40.54 | annma | trunk? branch??? |
| 14:40.57 | annma | be precise |
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| 14:41.07 | annma | and pastebin backtrace |
| 14:41.30 | cibaer | rev 1084920 |
| 14:41.35 | annma | trunk? branch? |
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| 14:41.39 | cibaer | trunk |
| 14:41.45 | annma | at last! |
| 14:42.07 | annma | so can you now pastebin the crash backtrace |
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| 14:42.22 | annma | and ayevee: also trunk? |
| 14:42.25 | helgoman | hi |
| 14:42.43 | annma | cibaer: I have both trunk and 4.4 branch builds |
| 14:42.51 | cibaer | http://pastebin.com/d76419169 |
| 14:43.00 | ayevee | annma: trunk, I guess, rev 1085183 |
| 14:43.06 | annma | you guess? |
| 14:43.32 | ayevee | well |
| 14:43.38 | ayevee | I'm pretty sure infact :) |
| 14:43.40 | annma | where doe sit fail then? |
| 14:43.46 | annma | where does it fail then? |
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| 14:44.00 | annma | pastebin with make VERBOSE=1 and last full compiling line |
| 14:44.09 | helgoman | i have installed kdevelop with svn-support enabled... if i create a project there is no subversion in dialog to choose in version management... do i have to give kdevelop a parameter at start? |
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| 14:44.51 | Kolia | annma: only with desktop widget, under KDE 4.3.5 |
| 14:45.25 | annma | cibaer: and does alsamix work? |
| 14:45.40 | annma | Kolia: what applet does not show then? |
| 14:45.46 | cibaer | annma: what do you mean by "alsamix"? |
| 14:45.49 | annma | and pastebin relevant rc file info |
| 14:46.00 | annma | alsamixer |
| 14:46.03 | annma | a mixer |
| 14:46.22 | annma | ayevee: you build with gentoo? |
| 14:46.25 | cibaer | ah, I know. yes. the crash did not happen to me. but I seem to be responsible for it |
| 14:46.34 | cibaer | i cannot reproduce it here |
| 14:46.37 | annma | to you? |
| 14:47.00 | annma | the crash happens for the info you gave? |
| 14:47.01 | cibaer | it builds fine, and runs fine |
| 14:47.25 | annma | ask the guy with the crash if alsamixer runs OK |
| 14:48.03 | cibaer | annma: it seems to be a layout bug (as seen from backtrace). and I submitted some layout code in that svn revision |
| 14:48.11 | cibaer | so I know try to fix |
| 14:48.20 | cibaer | but difficult |
| 14:48.31 | cibaer | wanted to know if others also experience problems |
| 14:48.44 | annma | what qt version has the user |
| 14:48.48 | cibaer | 4.6.1 |
| 14:48.51 | cibaer | me too |
| 14:49.07 | annma | don't ask here about problems, as yo ucan see ayevee cannot even build kmix |
| 14:49.59 | cibaer | would be interesting, whats the problem with the build |
| 14:50.00 | annma | if the guy is on Gentoo ask other gentoo users in #gentoo-kde |
| 14:50.10 | annma | I often do that |
| 14:50.33 | cibaer | how do you know that hes on gentoo? |
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| 14:50.55 | annma | this is gentoo:/var/tmp/paludis/kde-base-kdelibs-9999/work/kdelibs-9999_build/ |
| 14:50.59 | annma | paludis |
| 14:52.00 | cibaer | ah, ok. have received a new mail from him. have now a clue where the problem is, and how I can fix the crash |
| 14:52.19 | annma | I run branch and I get nothing in kmix trunk |
| 14:52.22 | annma | is that normal? |
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| 14:52.28 | annma | the window is empty |
| 14:52.35 | annma | so indeed you might have messed the layout |
| 14:52.57 | annma | now I don't know how kmix deals with another user |
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| 14:53.43 | annma | maybe kmix can't display this info when it's not the running user? |
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| 14:57.41 | cibaer | first I'll revert the change that seems to be responsible for the crash, for the gentoo user it seems to work after my proposed patch |
| 14:59.32 | annma | any chance to relook KMix a bit so it looks more modern? |
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| 15:01.15 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 15:01.30 | Nebukadneza | in kde4, how do i customize the command that switches the keyboard layout? |
| 15:01.45 | Nebukadneza | i have a xmodmap script that i want to execute if us layout is active |
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| 15:02.32 | Nebukadneza | (but for no other layout than us) |
| 15:02.36 | cibaer | I'll do my best. fixed layout errors til now :) what would you think of some sepcial volume-slider-widget instead of default qsliders? |
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| 15:02.56 | annma | cibaer: yes |
| 15:03.12 | annma | Nebukadneza: in SYstem Settings you can set keyboard layouts |
| 15:03.33 | Nebukadneza | annma: yes, but how can i define that a certain Xmodmap will only be loaded for us layout, but for no other layout? |
| 15:03.36 | Kolia | annma: for example microblog and pastebin not showing, while they are in the rc file: http://pastebin.com/m3d2f6551 |
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| 15:06.48 | annma | Kolia: no idea from what I see there |
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| 15:09.13 | Nebukadneza | noone? :/ |
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| 15:19.29 | Kolia | annma: i thought maybe z-index messed up, and so widgets "under" the wallpaper? |
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| 15:21.34 | Kusa | hi |
| 15:22.06 | Kusa | i want to know if kde have some job who can be paid? |
| 15:22.16 | Kusa | like ubuntu who paid some people for work on it |
| 15:22.59 | Kusa | i want to say ubuntu paid some developpers for working on gnome but i don't find anything about kde |
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| 15:25.05 | cibaer | Kusa: making money with work on kde, I would think of a) distributions (like ubuntu) b) search bounty systems c) google soc |
| 15:26.31 | Kusa | i love kde and i really happy to work on it but i didn't see many people who be paid for work on it, just people who is sponsoring by trolltech (nokia) |
| 15:27.05 | Half-Left | Kusa: Because that's how FOSS goes |
| 15:27.12 | Kusa | ;) |
| 15:27.16 | Kusa | i know |
| 15:27.26 | Half-Left | Ask Novell |
| 15:27.27 | Kusa | but why paid for work on gnome and not kde? |
| 15:27.39 | Kusa | it's just my question i think.... |
| 15:27.50 | Jucato | that's the distro's prerogative |
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| 15:28.21 | Jucato | (also, Red Hat, Novell, Mandriva, etc employs a number of people to work on KDE) |
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| 15:28.34 | Kusa | oki |
| 15:29.08 | Jucato | note that GNOME doesn't hire anyone to work on GNOME either. (sponsor maybe, but not fulltime employment) |
| 15:29.33 | Half-Left | Canonical |
| 15:29.41 | Kusa | it's possible to have a fulltime employment for kde :$ |
| 15:30.44 | Half-Left | You need to ask the companies, like: Novell, Nokia, Canonical and RedHat |
| 15:31.38 | Jucato | (or Mandriva) |
| 15:31.40 | Kusa | and how can i do that? |
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| 15:31.57 | Kusa | I am currently undergoing orientation and would like that my job is to work on KDE, but have a family situation and therefore also have enough financial resources to live |
| 15:32.06 | Jucato | you definitely do not just go their IRC channel and say "I want to be employed" :) |
| 15:32.21 | Kusa | i know ;) |
| 15:32.24 | Half-Left | Email them, write to them, like a normal job I should imagine |
| 15:32.55 | Kusa | i just want some advice ;) it's just about my future ;) |
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| 15:34.27 | Kusa | it will be good to work on kde :p |
| 15:34.46 | Kusa | and be paid for do that |
| 15:34.47 | Half-Left | Just do it without getting paid :) |
| 15:34.56 | Kusa | i do it ;) |
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| 15:35.19 | Kusa | i promote kde and talk about it in my school |
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| 15:35.48 | Kusa | and do some of presentation when we have new release ;) |
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| 16:19.28 | genii | Hello. Is there any way to use former Kivio .flw files? Some converter or import filter for current KOffice, etc? |
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| 16:23.18 | Vi0L0 | hi, umm... how can i force firefox to use any theme if im lunching it with such command: sudo sandfox firefox or kdesu sandfox firefox , where sandfox is bash script to lunch firefox in sandbox... and yes - it is chrot binded to almost every directory |
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| 16:52.17 | ahox | Hi, I have a problem with building kde using make -j5. It seems that make does not know about some dependencies. Where should I file a bugreport? |
| 16:53.29 | Half-Left | What does that have to do with make -j5? |
| 16:53.52 | ahox | It seems to me that one thread gets ahead of the other and hence fails. It works with an -j1 |
| 16:54.06 | ahox | actually, scrap that. It does not work at all... |
| 16:54.11 | ahox | Here is the output, http://pastebin.com/m185d6633 |
| 16:54.34 | ahox | just fails a lot faster with -j5 ;-) |
| 16:54.35 | Half-Left | You have a quad-core CPU? |
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| 16:55.03 | saLOUt | -j5 doesnt make sense... |
| 16:55.16 | Half-Left | It does for Quad-Core CPU's |
| 16:55.35 | ahox | saLOUt: and that's what I have |
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| 16:55.55 | Half-Left | Since it uses all of the cores pretty much 100% of the time |
| 16:56.06 | saLOUt | ahox: there is no quint-core |
| 16:56.16 | saLOUt | -j4 should do the same |
| 16:56.21 | Half-Left | Never had a problem with it on my quad |
| 16:56.33 | ahox | saLOUt: I found a #cpu+1 works better |
| 16:56.46 | saLOUt | lol |
| 16:56.47 | ahox | that's also whats recommended at a lot of places |
| 16:57.00 | ahox | you get around some iowait |
| 16:57.10 | ssuominen | -j9 is working great with my quadcore, built the entire system with it. need to count hyperthreading per core. |
| 16:57.12 | Half-Left | -j4 uses less cpu time across the cores |
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| 16:58.46 | ahox | anyway, does someone know what the problem is that I posted in the pastebin? |
| 16:59.25 | urkud | What is nepomukcmd? |
| 16:59.36 | urkud | It is used in http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Metadata/Nepomuk/TipsAndTricks#Remove_all_Strigi-indexed_data |
| 16:59.47 | urkud | But I have no such command |
| 16:59.59 | Half-Left | ahox: "bs/solid/solid/backends/fakehw/fakeacadapter.h: No such file or directory" should be a clue |
| 17:00.25 | ahox | Half-Left: the file kind of exists, as in the number of ../ are off by one |
| 17:00.52 | ahox | I am using the kdesvn-build script and already used the --reconfigure option |
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| 17:11.51 | ahox | It seems that kdesvn-build is not happy when the build-directory is at adifferent directory depth than the source dir. |
| 17:12.06 | ahox | However, the standard is to have the build dir inside kdesvn, right? |
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| 17:44.06 | cb400f | nhn: all set for wednesday? .. I'll write the announce tonight.. managed to persuade m_abs to do the plasma-netbook presentation |
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| 17:58.44 | litb | ello folks |
| 17:58.51 | litb | when will kde4.4 come out? |
| 17:58.57 | litb | will it happen on saturday? |
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| 18:05.31 | kaddi | hi, i just upgraded to kde 4.4rc on ubuntu and my old plasma-config now makes plasma crash. I was wondering if there is an easy way to fix this, so I can continue using my old plasma-desktop-appletsrc or if I should just to a fresh config for my desktops |
| 18:06.26 | Half-Left | Not unless you know what is crashing plasma in your old config |
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| 18:08.52 | alexex | Is there some kind of stack plasmoid? |
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| 18:11.49 | alexex | like there is an applet for cairo-dock or something, where you can just store files temporarily, and drag&drop them? |
| 18:12.00 | alexex | which doesnt take as much space as the folderview plasmoid? |
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| 18:13.16 | Knuthy | Hi :) |
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| 18:25.19 | Flutiju` | Hi, I'm using dolphin to connectr to a FTP server, but I have a message saying : 530 Sorry, the maximum number of clients (2) for this user are already connected. |
| 18:25.39 | Flutiju` | Can I limit the connections number to 2 anywhere ? |
| 18:26.54 | Flutiju` | *somewhere |
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| 18:32.53 | nhn | cb400f: sure. I was not sure if it was going to happena t all or not |
| 18:33.00 | nhn | I'll cook up somthing |
| 18:33.08 | cb400f | great |
| 18:33.14 | nhn | how long a talk should I prepare? |
| 18:33.24 | cb400f | I'd say max. 60 mins |
| 18:33.29 | cb400f | min. 30-45 |
| 18:33.29 | nhn | ok |
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| 20:17.29 | feindbild | hi ^^ |
| 20:19.53 | feindbild | I upgraded to kde4 a few days ago(kde-4.3.4) and I have a little problem now when browsing an nfs share (with konqui)... only scrolling in the directory ammounts to a traffic of about 100MBit and konqui hangs all the time :( Is this a known problem/is there a workaround? ^^ |
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| 20:27.29 | mizerydearia | I tried playing a game and it crashed and the resolution for desktop changed to 640x480. I resolved the resolution issue but also the font seems to be at 1px and everything is so tiny. I can't read much of the text in windows, not even to find where to change the size back to normal. How can I fix this without deleting and recreating my ~/.kde4 directory? |
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| 21:32.56 | TobiG | does anyone have an alternative location for virtuoso = 6.1.0 ? |
| 21:33.20 | alienBOB | I got it from sf.net |
| 21:33.20 | TobiG | trying to squeeze it in before being forced to release virtuoso < 6 |
| 21:33.24 | TobiG | times out here |
| 21:33.32 | TobiG | tried for the last hour or so |
| 21:33.34 | alienBOB | I can upload it |
| 21:33.39 | TobiG | that'd be awesome |
| 21:33.40 | TobiG | thx |
| 21:35.27 | urkud | http://www.loegria.net/tmp/virtuoso-opensource-6.1.0.tar.gz |
| 21:35.44 | TobiG | thx @ urkud |
| 21:35.47 | TobiG | alienBOB: all good |
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| 21:36.26 | alienBOB | I recompressed it from .gz to .xz (using gunzip -cd | xz -z) so the size is smaller... http://alien.slackbook.org/virtuoso-opensource-6.1.0.tar.xz |
| 21:36.39 | TobiG | I got it with 1.2 MB/s |
| 21:37.03 | alienBOB | OK |
| 21:37.06 | TobiG | hm, 2.4 even |
| 21:37.11 | alienBOB | I'll delete mine then |
| 21:37.22 | urkud | I'll also delete mine |
| 21:37.33 | TobiG | w8 5 more sec |
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| 21:37.54 | TobiG | 49135390d27ab3e445f5e9481ab677bb is the right md5 hash >? |
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| 21:39.02 | TobiG | urkud: can you please confirm the md5sum ? |
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| 21:42.48 | urkud | 49135390d27ab3e445f5e9481ab677bb |
| 21:43.55 | TobiG | looks good |
| 21:44.26 | TobiG | if anyone else needs it, it will be available from here, too : http://ftp.yoper.com/pub/devel/source-cache/virtuoso-opensource-6.1.0.tar.gz |
| 21:44.34 | TobiG | permanently |
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| 22:05.58 | [mors] | hi ! |
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| 22:07.03 | [mors] | there there a way in kwin with compositing enabled to zoom a window, like I have a 100x100 window and kwin zooms it to 200x200, but the app just thinks that it's still in 100x100, and I see the contents of the window oversized |
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| 22:11.15 | alisonken1home | [mors]: look under "Desktop Effects -> All Effects -> Zoom" |
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| 22:11.45 | alisonken1home | either Zoom or Magnifier and see if that's what you're thinking of |
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| 22:11.52 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 22:12.13 | Ronis_BR | I have tons of emails (almost 5GiB), does kmail 4.4 will import it for me? |
| 22:14.05 | [mors] | alisonken1home: thanks, but unfortunatelly that affects the entire desktop :/ |
| 22:14.12 | [mors] | I would like a single window solution |
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| 22:18.07 | kdepepo | Ronis_BR, which format are the mails in |
| 22:19.31 | Ronis_BR | kdepepo: don't know :D I'm using dIMAP |
| 22:20.41 | kdepepo | Ronis_BR, so your question is if KMail supports IMAP (server stored emails) |
| 22:20.50 | Ronis_BR | kdepepo: no |
| 22:21.05 | Ronis_BR | kdepepo: I have KMail with disconnected IMAP and almost 5GiB and emails saved here |
| 22:21.21 | Ronis_BR | kdepepo: my question is when I upgrade to kde 4.4.0 if kmail will import it without problems |
| 22:21.47 | kdepepo | from 4.3? |
| 22:22.07 | Ronis_BR | yes |
| 22:22.10 | kdepepo | yes, KMail in 4.4 did not switch to Akonadi yet... |
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| 22:22.52 | Ronis_BR | ok, thanks |
| 22:23.02 | Ronis_BR | kdepepo: will it change to akonadi some day? |
| 22:23.14 | kdepepo | In trunk it is already switched. |
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| 23:13.54 | fusedpro | Alrighty, so I have a problem. I changed my color scheme (through Configure Desktop > Appearance > Colors) and, for the most part, it looks great. Is there any way to have it not apply to certain programs like Open Office and Eclipse? I've already unticked the "Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications" under the options tab but that didn't work so... |
| 23:14.17 | fusedpro | Forgot to mention I'm running OpenSuSE 11.2 |
| 23:14.38 | TomasuAway | would really like to see a list of all of the more significant changes in 4.4.0 so he has a solid list of things to go through at his KDE 4.4 release event |
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| 23:50.08 | kdepepo | TomasuAway, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Release_Goals ? |
| 23:53.02 | TomasuAway | kdepepo: does that actually list what has changed, or just what they wanted to change? Also a lot of that list seems to be pretty abstract. |
| 23:54.03 | kdepepo | abstract? You want screen shots? wait for the official announcement |
| 23:54.23 | TomasuAway | no, I just skimmed it a little too quickly |
| 23:54.29 | TomasuAway | theres a lot of examples there that I can use |
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