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| 00:06.35 | webbi | sreich: you there? |
| 00:10.36 | sreich | webbi: I don't know |
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| 00:32.23 | webbi | sreich: i change them to 664 |
| 00:32.25 | webbi | i will try |
| 00:32.28 | webbi | thanks anyway! |
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| 02:28.15 | octo_ | in konsole, I picked view,dont show fille menu, and now i cant get it back, anyone know how to get it back? |
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| 05:13.42 | dchmelik | for some reason when I have run konsole in the last few months, it does not load my aliases that are in /etc/profile |
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| 05:24.07 | rvalles | kwin4.4, win7 features on moving (maximize by moving to the top of screen, halfscreen panel by moving left/right...) |
| 05:24.20 | rvalles | How do I disable these? They're incredibly annoying. |
| 05:24.32 | lmurray | system settings, desktop, screen edges |
| 05:24.39 | rvalles | ok |
| 05:24.44 | rvalles | was looking at window behaviour |
| 05:24.45 | rvalles | confusing. |
| 05:25.59 | oneforall | ah glad some one asked that been driving me nuts when I move ff seamonkey etc up and it touches the top and goes full screen |
| 05:26.05 | rvalles | What about mousewheel switching desktops? |
| 05:26.08 | dchmelik | can you disable that annoying animation yet that happens when you move to another part of a menu? |
| 05:26.22 | rvalles | (on desktop bg or taskbar) |
| 05:28.08 | rvalles | ok, found that (For desktop) |
| 05:28.21 | rvalles | desktop settings -> mouse actions |
| 05:28.24 | rvalles | this is new I think. |
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| 07:26.03 | carl- | is nepomuks only functionality when i dont have that strigi thing to only index my mail |
| 07:26.41 | carl- | i have this virtuoso-t eating 800 megs of ram and using 25% cpu , has been for quite some time .. |
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| 07:27.15 | carl- | not really what one would want to use the battery on a laptop for .. if this only means i get my mail indexed .. |
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| 07:28.37 | carl- | so now since i upgraded to kde 4.4 i always get a warning when i start kontact that nepomuk is not running .. as if it should have some real impact on kontactsa usability |
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| 07:32.44 | oneforall | kmail likes to start nepomuk even though you turned it off too |
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| 07:37.22 | carl- | oneforall: k k .. you know what the impact of not having it is ?? |
| 07:38.38 | oneforall | nope other than not being able to save your contacts I dunno |
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| 08:07.33 | MaikB | Hello. I get an error message from kopete in the notification area which I really want to read, but only the fist half is shown. I cannot drag it to bigger size and I cannot prevent it form disappearing. I also cannot mark the test to paste it somewhere else |
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| 08:07.47 | MaikB | Is there a place where the notifications are cached? |
| 08:08.08 | MaikB | /var/.. or /tmp/.. or something? |
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| 08:13.27 | thiago_home | MaikB: no |
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| 08:17.23 | AmaN_ | hi all! i cannot find the control center from the start menu of kde4....i want to install some themes, |
| 08:17.30 | AmaN_ | any help would be appreciated |
| 08:18.01 | MaikB | thiago_home: k |
| 08:18.06 | MaikB | thiago_home: thx |
| 08:18.27 | thiago_home | AmaN_: it's System Settings |
| 08:20.20 | AmaN_ | thiago_home: System and Settings are two different heading whn i press kde icon in the bottom left corner |
| 08:20.27 | AmaN_ | sorry am totally new to kde.... |
| 08:20.56 | AmaN_ | aha! thiago_home, i got it |
| 08:21.02 | AmaN_ | its there....thanks :) |
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| 08:24.21 | jerryluc | anyone know how i can turn off sound when copy/paste in kde4.4? |
| 08:24.37 | h4xordood | hi i have a problem with kde 4.4 here is the console output http://pastebin.ca/1818695 |
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| 08:27.20 | ghostcube | jerryluc: this should be an sound notification for kde |
| 08:27.28 | ghostcube | you should be able to change this in the systemsettings |
| 08:27.33 | ghostcube | under notifications |
| 08:29.49 | jerryluc | ghostcube: i've turned off all sounds... |
| 08:30.00 | ghostcube | hmmmm .... |
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| 08:36.03 | h4xordood | ghostcube can you suggest something about this http://pastebin.ca/1818695? |
| 08:36.08 | h4xordood | http://pastebin.ca/1818695 |
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| 08:45.31 | ghostcube | h4xordood: checking moment |
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| 08:47.49 | ghostcube | h4xordood: what are you trying |
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| 09:19.00 | ilj | knotes aren't in systray anymore and it seems there's no option anywhere in either the System Settings or Kontact settings to control that :( |
| 09:19.21 | ilj | I don't know why they disappeared from systray but that sucks big time |
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| 09:19.56 | ilj | I don't feel like removing ~/.kde4 and starting from scratch |
| 09:20.08 | ilj | can anyone help me with this? |
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| 09:28.59 | h4xordood | sorry "GhostCube" i not here! |
| 09:29.07 | h4xordood | :-( |
| 09:29.20 | h4xordood | yeah i am trying to run javascript plasmoid |
| 09:30.04 | h4xordood | yesterday print and debug were broken but now some people helped |
| 09:30.24 | h4xordood | now i have this problem |
| 09:30.54 | h4xordood | that i posted on http://pastebin.ca/1818695 |
| 09:31.43 | h4xordood | ghostcube ping |
| 09:31.58 | ghostcube | yep |
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| 09:32.34 | ghostcube | and this is the latest pulseaudio on fedora ? if this is fedora |
| 09:32.47 | ghostcube | *phonon |
| 09:32.49 | ghostcube | damn |
| 09:32.52 | pinotree | h4xordood: your phonon package is broken, references some pulseaudio stuff which isn't available in your pulseaudio installation |
| 09:33.04 | pinotree | you must ask in the channel of your distro |
| 09:33.08 | h4xordood | i am trying to run javascript |
| 09:33.17 | ghostcube | yeah but this calling anything not there |
| 09:33.18 | h4xordood | javascript plasmoid |
| 09:33.26 | h4xordood | yeah |
| 09:33.40 | ghostcube | so it seems youre packages are 1) too old 2) a bit borked |
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| 09:33.45 | ghostcube | :) |
| 09:33.47 | ghostcube | or both |
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| 09:37.18 | h4xordood | i updated kde4.3.2 to kde4.4 |
| 09:37.46 | h4xordood | so what you suggest |
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| 09:39.19 | h4xordood | :)thanks ghostcueb |
| 09:39.26 | h4xordood | ghostcube |
| 09:39.41 | ghostcube | np :) |
| 09:40.56 | h4xordood | i am using fedora12 |
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| 10:54.09 | Freundlich | Hi. I have the following problem: I can shutdown directly from kdm, but as soon as I log in, there is no way to log out. "logout", "shutdown", "switch user" and so forth just don't do anything. |
| 10:54.20 | Freundlich | What could be the cause? Where can I start looking for error messages? |
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| 10:59.12 | HandyGandy | I'm looking at a weather plasmoid on kde-look and it says that in KDE 4.2 there is a default one. Is it still there in KDE 4.3 and where can I find it? |
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| 11:02.06 | ghostcube | HandyGandy: there should be an weather applet yes |
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| 11:02.22 | ghostcube | miniprograms has an weather applet |
| 11:04.37 | HandyGandy | miniprograms? |
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| 11:27.00 | Nyad | hey, I'm using KDE and I changed my desktop from folder view to the new search view, however I cannot right click to go properties and convert it back |
| 11:27.18 | Nyad | is there a workaround? |
| 11:27.45 | Kame2 | use the cashew in the upper right corner |
| 11:28.56 | snuggl | Nyad: it took me a while to get it away to as the cashew disapeard, if thats your case to go to settings->desktop |
| 11:29.18 | snuggl | then workspace |
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| 11:32.19 | Nyad | yea I noticed the cashew has dissapeard as well, but when i go to settings->desktop->workspace |
| 11:32.43 | Nyad | form factor is on desktop and dashboard is on desktop widgets |
| 11:33.00 | Nyad | so it looks right but everything is not right :/ |
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| 11:34.10 | cael | is there any possibility to correctly close an imap connection before laptop suspend? everytime after resume my imap connections seem to be broken (they last in an endless check) |
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| 11:36.01 | Kame2 | Nyad: if your desktop has focus, hold alt-key and press S than D and release alt |
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| 11:39.53 | Nyad | i managed to work it out, i pressed control+F12 and it brought up the widget view and the cashew became temporarily available |
| 11:40.01 | Nyad | so i could fix it |
| 11:40.34 | Nyad | this feature is a deathtrap because it decides to remove the cashew and there is no right click option for a menu to configure it |
| 11:41.12 | Kame2 | Nyad: strangly i tested it some times and the cashew ever stayed for me |
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| 12:03.17 | brot | does someone knows when the tarballs are up? |
| 12:03.43 | maazu | brot: you mean 4.4 tarballs? |
| 12:03.50 | brot | 4.4.1 tarballs :) |
| 12:04.11 | maazu | woa... i dunno |
| 12:04.38 | pinotree | when kde 4.4.1 is released, they will be available |
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| 12:07.14 | snuggl | new day, new problem =D |
| 12:07.29 | snuggl | my mousepointer disapears while hovering tabs in konsole |
| 12:07.40 | snuggl | is this known or just me? |
| 12:08.36 | annma | Qt bug |
| 12:09.01 | snuggl | oki |
| 12:09.03 | annma | not sure when it happens |
| 12:09.25 | snuggl | only got it now when i turned off compostiting |
| 12:10.22 | annma | I don't have compositing but I only have this bug some times |
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| 12:13.33 | isix | morning all |
| 12:13.52 | isix | question: where is a good tutorial to get the sources of kde4.4 compiled? |
| 12:14.34 | annma | techbase.kde.org |
| 12:15.08 | isix | annma, thx |
| 12:15.17 | isix | will take a look there right now |
| 12:15.21 | annma | :) |
| 12:17.32 | isix | i just have 4.2.4 workin but i want to build the current 4.4 and make the distro specific packages, |
| 12:17.42 | isix | so i guess its quite simple |
| 12:19.54 | maazu | bye bye |
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| 12:23.14 | annma | isix: building is different from making packages |
| 12:24.47 | isix | ye |
| 12:24.53 | isix | but as first i need to build it |
| 12:24.59 | isix | and test it |
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| 12:33.58 | alienBOB | isix: what distro? There will probably be build scripts somewhere already |
| 12:34.11 | massimo | How do I get short info when hovering on buttons or icon only tool bars? |
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| 12:41.28 | annma | alienBOB: isix OS Linux apparently |
| 12:41.33 | annma | Slackware based |
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| 12:49.41 | alienBOB | annma: never heard of isix ;-) |
| 12:51.07 | alienBOB | NOw I do... butthe website is in a language I do not understand |
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| 12:55.01 | alienBOB | isix: if your distro is Slackware based, then perhaps you can just use the Slackware KDE build scripts? |
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| 14:11.42 | NewWorld | I'm trying to find the source files for latest KPDF, version 0.5.10 but can't find em. It's not on their download page. Can anyone help? |
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| 14:14.45 | cb400f | why? .. okular is wuz up |
| 14:14.49 | sredna2 | NewWorld: (web)svn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 14:15.03 | sredna2 | kpdf is kde 3.5 |
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| 14:15.34 | otswim | how can i use webcam + audio on kopete? the webcam seems to work in the Video part of 'Configure Kopete' |
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| 14:15.55 | NewWorld | cb400f: Okular is a lot slower and unresponsive when recolouring is applied. |
| 14:16.19 | NewWorld | sredna2: That doesn't load for me :S |
| 14:16.41 | sredna2 | NewWorld: remove the parens |
| 14:16.59 | NewWorld | svn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf << I put that in my address bar and it doesn't load |
| 14:17.10 | Kame2 | websvn.kde.org |
| 14:17.13 | sredna2 | NewWorld: websvn.kde.org/... |
| 14:17.24 | NewWorld | Ahh okay.. why the parenth then? :P |
| 14:18.01 | sredna2 | because you can check them out from svn.kde.org (or anonsvn.kde.org) using svn :) |
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| 14:18.52 | NewWorld | Oh okay, well thanks it worked :) |
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| 14:19.21 | sredna2 | you are wellcome, NewWorld :) |
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| 15:37.54 | howlymowly | hi poeple short question: when I click on a python file in dolphin it will always try to start that file.. but thats not what I want, instead I wold rather like to have that file openened with kate... |
| 15:37.54 | howlymowly | kate is already the "top" program in the actions list rightclick menu... but it still does not work... any tips on this? |
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| 15:40.05 | sredna2 | howlymowly: check the file associations for php files in systemsettings |
| 15:40.18 | pinotree | (python, not php) |
| 15:40.40 | sredna2 | oops :) |
| 15:41.27 | howlymowly | sredna2: yeah.. kate is on top in that list... |
| 15:42.01 | howlymowly | but still dollphin wants to run the file rather than edit it in kate or any other program ... |
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| 15:43.10 | sredna2 | that is a bit odd, dolphin should use your first preference! |
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| 15:43.42 | howlymowly | yeah! thats what i think, too sredna2 ! :D |
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| 15:44.27 | howlymowly | but actually.. it is kind o weird.. the python interpreter itself doesn show up at all in the file associations list... So I would rather think that for executable scripts I can configure this somewhere else... |
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| 15:45.22 | sredna2 | well, if the file is executable, it is not run through the interpreter in the first place |
| 15:45.29 | sredna2 | it is probably just executed |
| 15:45.44 | sredna2 | but imo, it should not be unless it is in your PATH |
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| 15:46.18 | howlymowly | you mean python? well.. python actually IS in my path :) |
| 15:46.21 | howlymowly | *PATH |
| 15:46.30 | sredna2 | no, the file that you want to edit |
| 15:46.52 | howlymowly | nope.. they are spread out all over my home directory... :) |
| 15:47.04 | moofang | howlymowly: if your problem is that activating a python file executes it instead of opening it your editor of choice, you need to remove execute permissions from the file :) |
| 15:47.04 | sredna2 | but i'm not even sure. For a binary executable, with the executable bit set, i would expect it to be run |
| 15:47.24 | moofang | iirc any file with execute permissions for the current user will be executed if activated |
| 15:47.31 | sredna2 | thinks moofang is right |
| 15:47.59 | moofang | so if you don't want something to behave like a program you should remove execute permissions from the file, at least for yourself and anything you belong to :) |
| 15:48.12 | howlymowly | moofang: yeah... but I want to open it with kate without dooing that... is that possible? sredna2 that's my problem it isn a binary executable.. its a python script |
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| 15:48.47 | moofang | howlymowly: why not do that? Removing execute permissions doesn't stop you from doing "py yourfile.py" if that's what you're worrying about :) |
| 15:48.59 | moofang | it doesn't need to be binary |
| 15:49.00 | howlymowly | moofang: the problem is: I am woking on a project which needs some scripts to be marked as xecutables.. but I also edit them a lot .. soo.. thats why :) |
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| 15:49.29 | moofang | iirc anything with execute permissions will be executed, including bash scripts, python scripts, even plain text files - except nothing will execute for those :) |
| 15:49.34 | moofang | ic.. |
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| 15:49.57 | moofang | howlymowly: a workaround might be to right-click > open with kate the first time for all the files you need to work on in your project |
| 15:50.04 | moofang | then save that as a kate session :) |
| 15:50.33 | moofang | then whenever you need to work on the project just activate that session and all your files will be open in kate |
| 15:50.43 | howlymowly | moofang: that seems like a good idea... |
| 15:51.10 | NewWorld | I'm trying to access the KDE SVN and I get this: svn co svn://svn.kde.org |
| 15:51.10 | NewWorld | svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.kde.org': Connection refused |
| 15:51.28 | sredna2 | NewWorld: anonsvn.kde.org |
| 15:51.38 | sredna2 | NewWorld: unless you have an account :) |
| 15:51.38 | howlymowly | i was first thinking that the dolphin behaviour was a little odd anyways, thats why I compaint about it.. but now that I know it is a "feature" I kind of have a different view on this :) moofang, sredna2 |
| 15:51.49 | NewWorld | sredna2: I get: svn: No repository found in 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org' |
| 15:52.05 | sredna2 | NewWorld: maybe i am wrong then |
| 15:52.11 | pinotree | NewWorld: what's the complete command you are running? |
| 15:52.13 | NewWorld | I'm really new to this SVN thing :/ |
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| 15:52.27 | NewWorld | pinotree: $ svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org |
| 15:52.31 | pinotree | wrong |
| 15:52.46 | pinotree | please do take a look at the documentation about anonymous svn we have on techbase.kde.org |
| 15:52.56 | moofang | howlymowly: it probably isn't exactly a "feature" but as far as I remember that's the way things have worked in linux for most DE's :) |
| 15:53.30 | moofang | NewWorld: what are you trying to check out? |
| 15:53.56 | NewWorld | moofang: I'm trying to get the source for kpdf, here: svn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf/ |
| 15:54.23 | sredna2 | sees a missing "home/kde/" in the start of that path |
| 15:54.56 | NewWorld | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf/ <<<this shows it just fine |
| 15:55.03 | sredna2 | my fault NewWorld - the websvn path is not directly reusable :] |
| 15:55.09 | NewWorld | :o |
| 15:55.12 | moofang | svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf/ doesn't work? |
| 15:55.12 | pinotree | websvn is *not* the anonsvn server |
| 15:55.32 | pinotree | no, you need the path to the svn repository: /home/kde |
| 15:55.49 | NewWorld | moofang: I get "svn: No repository found in 'svn://anonsvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf'" |
| 15:55.50 | pinotree | notes everything is written in techbase... |
| 15:56.01 | NewWorld | pinotree: Yeah I'm reading it now, thanks for that info |
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| 15:57.03 | sredna2 | => svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 15:57.31 | svuorela | NewWorld: are you going to reviwe kpdf and port it to kde4 ? |
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| 16:00.51 | NewWorld | svuorela: As far as I know KDE3 apps run on KDE4. I'm going to make an Arch User package for it though :) |
| 16:01.01 | pinotree | what for? |
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| 16:01.29 | NewWorld | pinotree: So people can install it without hassle. |
| 16:01.35 | NewWorld | *arch users |
| 16:01.39 | pinotree | that wasn't my question |
| 16:01.49 | NewWorld | what wasn't your question? |
| 16:01.52 | pinotree | my question is rather: what do you need kpdf in kde4 for? |
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| 16:02.21 | NewWorld | Well I'm not running KDE4, but I need kpdf cause I find it to be better than okular. |
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| 16:02.33 | pinotree | too generic |
| 16:02.41 | NewWorld | What's too generic. |
| 16:02.48 | pinotree | your statement |
| 16:02.55 | NewWorld | your reply is too generic. |
| 16:03.07 | NewWorld | You want a specific answer, ask a specific question. |
| 16:03.26 | svuorela | yeah. kpdf is much better than okular, because kpdf embeds a xpdf copy that makes security handling of it a nightmare. |
| 16:03.41 | pinotree | "cause I find it to be better than okular" is generic, you are not saying what is the problem with okular |
| 16:03.59 | NewWorld | pinotree: You did not ask 'what is wrong with okular?' |
| 16:04.13 | pinotree | now i did. |
| 16:05.02 | NewWorld | Okular is a lot slower and unresponsive when recolouring is applied. |
| 16:05.34 | NewWorld | Kpdf renders it as fast as without recolouring. |
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| 16:06.03 | pinotree | cannot be, given that recolouring is not a fast operation |
| 16:06.10 | pinotree | (either in kpdf and in okular) |
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| 16:06.31 | vizor | hi, will you release 4.4.1 today? |
| 16:06.31 | NewWorld | Well in KPDF it's as fast as without recolouring. In Okular it's not. |
| 16:07.04 | pinotree | any particular document with? |
| 16:07.06 | NewWorld | I like to change the background to black to reduce eyestrain :) |
| 16:07.55 | NewWorld | Nope, all PDF files. |
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| 16:09.18 | pinotree | self-compiled okular, or distro packages? |
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| 16:09.29 | shabyasachi | Hello everyone! |
| 16:09.29 | shabyasachi | I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this question. Sorry if it is not. I want to get a KMenu from KXmlGuiWindow->menuBar(). I am using a *.rc file to define the actions. And I'd like to add menu items at runtime, say to the "Tools" menu. How can I do this? |
| 16:09.33 | pinotree | also, self-compiled qimageblitz library, or distro packages? |
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| 16:09.56 | pinotree | shabyasachi: #kde-devel |
| 16:09.56 | NewWorld | pinotree: both distro packages |
| 16:10.03 | pinotree | which distro? |
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| 16:10.23 | NewWorld | Arch Linux |
| 16:10.24 | shabyasachi | pinotree: Thanks. |
| 16:11.13 | NewWorld | pinotree: Try it yourself. Go Settings > Accessibility > INvert Colours.. and see if it's slow or not. |
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| 16:11.29 | pinotree | it works fine for me |
| 16:11.35 | vandenoever | has anyone seen dbus going to 100% and staying there in a kde 4.4 session? |
| 16:11.54 | vandenoever | and all kde 4.4 apps more or less hanging as a result |
| 16:12.01 | NewWorld | :/ weird that it's slow for me |
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| 16:22.00 | alpha_one_x86 | Hello, I have lot of bug with gtkperf, I should report it? |
| 16:22.34 | pinotree | how is gtkperf (a benchmark for gtk widgets) related with kde? |
| 16:22.37 | annma | what bugs |
| 16:22.52 | annma | and don't they show in GNOME as well? |
| 16:24.42 | annma | alpha_one_x86: can't you answer questions please |
| 16:27.21 | alpha_one_x86 | 2/4 virtual dekstop is not clickable on the widget, the 1st screen in my dual screen have rapid drawing of gtk widget it seam, ... |
| 16:27.55 | pinotree | ??? |
| 16:28.04 | pinotree | gtkperf is not a qt nor a kde application |
| 16:28.37 | alpha_one_x86 | Yes but is not the application wich have bug, it's plasma/plasma widget ... |
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| 16:28.58 | alpha_one_x86 | For me it's xorg or kde/plasma bug |
| 16:29.37 | pinotree | you said "i have lot of bug with gtkperf" |
| 16:30.03 | alpha_one_x86 | with gtkperf under kde, sorry |
| 16:30.10 | alpha_one_x86 | I'm not english |
| 16:30.18 | pinotree | me neither |
| 16:30.39 | pinotree | but still, gtkperf is not a qt nor kde application |
| 16:30.57 | pinotree | please first ask to its developers |
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| 16:31.49 | alpha_one_x86 | Yes but I have see the same bug with other Qt/Gtk/KDE wich do lot of widget manipulation |
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| 16:32.51 | pinotree | please ask in #kde-fr, as it isn't clear what the problem is, and you aren't explaining yourself at all in english |
| 16:33.13 | annma | goes to this fr channel |
| 16:33.47 | annma | alpha_one_x86: if you speak French please go to #kde-fr |
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| 16:34.54 | alpha_one_x86 | ok |
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| 16:38.52 | NewWorld | How do I search the KDE SVN repository? I want to find 'kpdf' |
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| 16:40.00 | svuorela | NewWorld: I thought you alrady found it ? |
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| 16:40.42 | NewWorld | svuorela: I found it in the websvn, but can't pull it with the 'svn' command cause I dont know where it is :S |
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| 16:41.38 | NewWorld | OOooh found it nvm :) |
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| 16:41.47 | NewWorld | Still dunno how to search an SVN though :P |
| 16:41.47 | svuorela | 16:57 < sredna2> => svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf |
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| 16:42.48 | NewWorld | svuorela: bash: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdegraphics/kpdf: No such file or directory |
| 16:43.36 | NewWorld | I think it's here: svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.5.10/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 16:43.58 | annma | if it's in tag it should be in branch |
| 16:44.25 | annma | warning! KDE 3 is not compatible with KDE4 |
| 16:44.40 | annma | I mean: KDE 3 apps donot compile against KDE 4 |
| 16:44.55 | svuorela | and you will also need kde-common/admin |
| 16:44.55 | NewWorld | annma: KDE4 DE? Or KDE4 libs or smth? |
| 16:45.09 | NewWorld | Cause I'm not using KDE DE |
| 16:45.16 | annma | I mean: KDE 3 apps don ot compile against KDE 4 |
| 16:45.17 | svuorela | NewWorld: but it looks like you should start your learning a bit further down the learning hierachy |
| 16:45.32 | annma | KDE 3 apps do not COMPILE against KDE 4 |
| 16:45.43 | NewWorld | svuorela: I don't understand.. what is down? |
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| 16:46.05 | NewWorld | annma: Should I worry about that if I'm not using KDE DE? |
| 16:46.07 | svuorela | NewWorld: half of the knowledge you need to have to do what you try to do is missing. you should start learning that. |
| 16:46.24 | annma | NewWorld: USING is not COMPILING against |
| 16:46.27 | NewWorld | svuorela: Link? lol |
| 16:46.44 | Rede | how come you're using kpdf? |
| 16:46.45 | svuorela | NewWorld: www.google.com |
| 16:46.50 | Rede | Okular seems to work great for me |
| 16:47.09 | Rede | *shrug* |
| 16:47.09 | NewWorld | svuorela: I already did that, didn't help much that's why I came in here :P |
| 16:47.31 | NewWorld | Rede: Okular is a lot slower and unresponsive when recolouring is applied. |
| 16:47.38 | pinotree | ... for you |
| 16:47.50 | NewWorld | That's implied. |
| 16:48.01 | pinotree | nop :) |
| 16:48.07 | Rede | ahh I hadn't noticed :) Prolly not really pushing it with my use |
| 16:48.11 | pinotree | also, did you ask in the channel of your distro, about how the qimageblitz and okular packages are compiled? |
| 16:48.23 | NewWorld | pinotree: Should I? why? |
| 16:49.09 | pinotree | trying once at least, before declaring something "unusable" (in favour of something which is dead), would be a start |
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| 16:49.51 | NewWorld | It's not unusable, just doesn't have what I need. I'm fine with using kpdf instead :P nbd |
| 16:50.15 | annma | install kpdf from your distro instead |
| 16:50.20 | NewWorld | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.5.10/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 16:50.20 | NewWorld | svn: 'kpdf' is already a working copy for a different URL; run 'svn update' to complete it |
| 16:50.23 | pinotree | it does have what you need, just does not work as you would need |
| 16:50.34 | annma | I don't think you'll ever compile it NewWorld |
| 16:50.35 | pinotree | don't confuse "feature" with "bug" |
| 16:50.37 | NewWorld | I do 'svn update' and it gives me: "Skipped '.'" and doesn't work :( |
| 16:50.37 | svuorela | NewWorld: you know that kpdf embeds a copy of xpdf, which is a quite security sensitive application. |
| 16:50.56 | annma | NewWorld: you won't be able to build kpdf |
| 16:51.26 | NewWorld | pinotree: There's a already a bug report: http://www.mail-archive.com/okular-devel@kde.org/msg00125.html |
| 16:51.34 | NewWorld | annma: How come? :( |
| 16:51.48 | NewWorld | svuorela: What does that imply? |
| 16:51.51 | pinotree | i know there's a bug report, and if you read it there are also people reporting no issues at all |
| 16:52.06 | NewWorld | I'm not one of those people, clearly |
| 16:52.30 | svuorela | NewWorld: that a non-patched xpdf can put your computer security at risk |
| 16:53.25 | NewWorld | svuorela: I see :/ I dont think that's a big worry for me though |
| 16:53.29 | pinotree | NewWorld: and no, that bug report is *not* the one you want |
| 16:53.48 | NewWorld | I don't see why I would want a 'bug report' :P |
| 16:54.32 | NewWorld | wonders if Evince can change colours |
| 16:54.35 | pinotree | you showed it to me |
| 16:54.55 | pinotree | NewWorld: your problem is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156892, which also has my reply |
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| 16:56.12 | pinotree | NewWorld: would be nice if you could understand that if there is a problem, would be a nice thing at least trying a bit to solve it, instead of "i have a problem, let's change application altogether without even a single try" |
| 16:56.40 | pinotree | NewWorld: for example you haven't said anything about: Qt, kdelibs, and okular versions |
| 16:56.48 | NewWorld | Well I have 'qt-4.6.2' and it was still slow when I ran it on KDE 4.4 |
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| 16:57.58 | NewWorld | pinotree: I tried with different performance settings, dunno any other way to fix it. |
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| 16:58.27 | pinotree | is that accessibility setting the only one giving slowdowns? do the other ones work correctly? |
| 16:58.32 | NewWorld | I wouldn't be losing much switching from ok to kpdf so that's the route I took. |
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| 16:59.04 | NewWorld | Yeah without colour reapplication it works as fast as kpdf did with reapplication. |
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| 16:59.32 | pinotree | and with the other accessibility settings? |
| 17:00.41 | NewWorld | The only other one I see is 'Draw border around links', and that works fine, pinotree |
| 17:01.01 | pinotree | change the option in the effect combobox |
| 17:02.13 | NewWorld | pinotree: You mean 'color mode'? I tried every one and they all lagged. |
| 17:02.18 | jthomas_sb | 4.4.1 today, eh? exciting! |
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| 17:07.59 | wyt | testing |
| 17:08.12 | jthomas_sb | success wyt |
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| 17:08.30 | wyt | :) |
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| 17:09.21 | NewWorld | Anyone know how I can pull kpdf source from the KDE SVN repository? I do 'svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.5.10/kdegraphics/kpdf' and I get: 'svn: No such revision 1098017' |
| 17:09.47 | jthomas_sb | can you force a revision lower? |
| 17:09.57 | jthomas_sb | (you can, i just don't know the method) |
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| 17:10.07 | NewWorld | jthomas_sb: I dunno what you mean :S I'm not familiar with SVN that much. |
| 17:10.56 | jthomas_sb | svn co -r 1098016 svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/tags/KDE/3.5.10/kdegraphics/kpdf |
| 17:11.13 | jthomas_sb | or so; basically I just subtracted 1 from the revision that is failing |
| 17:11.47 | jthomas_sb | and it is running for me |
| 17:11.57 | NewWorld | jthomas_sb: Thank you I got it :D |
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| 17:12.20 | jthomas_sb | grand |
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| 17:17.25 | vizor | jthomas_sb: the higest revision in svn log is 849627 |
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| 17:18.04 | jthomas_sb | so then, why does the non -r try to get such a higher number, and specifying -r 1098016 works to download, vizor ? |
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| 17:18.30 | vizor | actully no idea :) |
| 17:18.41 | Torch | the original svn command from newworld works fine for me. |
| 17:19.28 | NewWorld | Torch: Yeah I cancelled an SVN checkout for the wrong direcotry half way... and that seems to have broken it, saying that it has to be completed. |
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| 17:27.01 | NewWorld | I'm trying to compile a program from source but don't know how (in this instance). Can someone help? Directory listing: http://pastebin.com/fvZZTEGy |
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| 17:27.58 | Torch | NewWorld: not surprisingly, compiling a kde3 app will be a major nightmare for you at this point. |
| 17:28.22 | NewWorld | :( I guess I'll request it on the Arch forums |
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| 17:29.05 | NewWorld | Torch: May I ask why it's so hard with KDE3 apps? |
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| 17:29.18 | Torch | NewWorld: because you need all the deps and you won't have any of them |
| 17:29.20 | annma | NewWorld: they cannot be built against KDE4 |
| 17:29.25 | annma | as I already said |
| 17:29.35 | Torch | NewWorld: you need _everything_ for kde3. and have it all for kde4 |
| 17:29.36 | NewWorld | annma: You said that at least 3 times already, but I still don't know what you mean lol |
| 17:29.37 | svuorela | 17:44 < svuorela> and you will also need kde-common/admin |
| 17:29.43 | annma | and as you know nothing about building a KDE app you would have a lot to learn |
| 17:29.55 | annma | NewWorld: this is a sign you must stop |
| 17:30.07 | Torch | NewWorld: you need at least qt3, arts and kdelibs. none of which are easy to build. |
| 17:30.08 | annma | get KDE3 and kpdf alltogether |
| 17:30.09 | NewWorld | Lol stop or ask and know? |
| 17:30.30 | NewWorld | Okay I got it, I won't be compiling this myself haha |
| 17:30.30 | annma | ask what? |
| 17:30.40 | annma | good |
| 17:30.49 | NewWorld | If I don't know something I'd rather ask and learn than stop like you said. |
| 17:30.58 | annma | not for this |
| 17:31.08 | NewWorld | How so? |
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| 17:31.13 | annma | you're not up to it as you don't understand what we mean |
| 17:31.25 | annma | it's like if you would try to speak French in 1 hour |
| 17:31.33 | NewWorld | lol fair enough :) |
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| 17:49.00 | JanekMon | Halo. I know that KDE depends on Nokia's Qt. KDE team can fix KDE bugs of course. But what does the KDE project do when the Qt team does not fix a bug that causes problems in KDE? |
| 17:50.05 | NewWorld | Patch it? |
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| 17:52.09 | annma | JanekMon: why would Qt people NOT fixe a bug for KDE? |
| 17:52.09 | JanekMon | NewWorld: The KDE bug reporters say "Resolved upstream" saying that it must be fixed by Qt. There will be no patching. But Qt does not fix it. Very much finger pointing. |
| 17:52.23 | annma | JanekMon: what bug then |
| 17:52.27 | annma | bug report |
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| 17:53.04 | annma | JanekMon: bug report URL please |
| 17:53.18 | firephoto | resolved upstream means it is fixed but that doesn't mean the fix is in a release version yet. |
| 17:53.18 | annma | Qt bug report URL |
| 17:53.48 | annma | maybe it misses a test case |
| 17:53.49 | JanekMon | annma I don't know. Please look here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=174354 |
| 17:53.55 | annma | you don't know? |
| 17:53.56 | JanekMon | Its very confusing to follow this long bug. It seems to go for ever back in time -- years I think. |
| 17:53.59 | annma | why don't you know |
| 17:54.29 | JanekMon | Why dont I know what? |
| 17:54.46 | annma | why don't you read the report |
| 17:54.59 | annma | and add your comment to Qt bug report |
| 17:55.29 | annma | you can even go now to #qt and point them to the Nokia bug report |
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| 17:56.07 | annma | that would be more efficient |
| 17:56.20 | JanekMon | annma: I dont know what you are talking about. I did read the report. THere are many reports. http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-6302. Many peoples have already made their comments. Many times. At KDE. At Qt. The bug nvere gets fixed. I am asking here to understand what is done in such matters. |
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| 17:57.00 | annma | what you can do is go to #qt and tell them to fixe 6302 |
| 17:57.10 | annma | add in the bug report your use case, your comment |
| 17:57.41 | JanekMon | annma: I am repeqating myself, sorry. People already have done that. Many times. Qt do not fix it. |
| 17:57.50 | annma | people butnot YOU |
| 17:57.53 | annma | YOU are here |
| 17:57.58 | Torch | JanekMon: what do you want to hear, though? |
| 17:58.00 | annma | I am telling you to ask in #qt |
| 17:58.29 | annma | and funny enough you did not join #qt yet |
| 17:59.00 | JanekMon | Why are you people so angry? I am asking only to understand what to do. Your only advise is to do more of the same which has so many times NOT had any positive effect? |
| 17:59.15 | Torch | JanekMon: no, this is a misunderstanding. no one is angry. |
| 17:59.28 | NewWorld | Lol annma was raging at me a little earlier too JanekMon xD |
| 17:59.29 | Torch | JanekMon: sorry if we come across as if we were. |
| 17:59.46 | annma | JanekMon: you asked the proper procedure |
| 17:59.49 | annma | I told you |
| 17:59.58 | pinotree | JanekMon: the only thing you can do is wait. you cannot do anything more. |
| 18:00.12 | pinotree | JanekMon: printing is not a priority for Qt. |
| 18:00.14 | JanekMon | Torch Yes it comes across that way. Thanks for your explanation. |
| 18:00.17 | Torch | JanekMon: i agree with pino. you cannot do anything to speed this up. |
| 18:00.54 | JanekMon | pinotree Is that the way of things then -- to wait for years with no progress? I am aksing honestly. It seems very strange. |
| 18:00.57 | pinotree | JanekMon: and you want to know? we tried to get printing fixed and improved in Qt. we failed, as for the reason above. |
| 18:01.59 | JanekMon | pinotree: I understand. WHen does a project like KDE make a decision to use something not-Qt? Or is that ever done? |
| 18:02.55 | pinotree | JanekMon: i was the okular maintainer, the application why lost more from that choice. i could do nothing to avoid that |
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| 18:03.42 | pinotree | JanekMon: back to your question: if you are an user, and only and user, with Qt reports you can do relatively few, if not nothing |
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| 18:03.57 | JanekMon | pinotree: You were the maintainer and were unable to get cooperation from them? Thats not good news to hear :-( |
| 18:05.13 | Torch | JanekMon: just one idea... who owns qt? and what might they be interested in? ;-)= |
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| 18:07.41 | JanekMon | Torch: Many reasons for sure. I was thinking that Linux KDE etc etc were 'free' to be free of such vendors and their decisions and those that are not made. It seems that the base for KDE depends on a freely licensed Qt, but not a really free solution. Since only they can make the fixes it seems. |
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| 18:08.04 | JanekMon | Terrible situation I think. |
| 18:08.13 | annma | and what's your proposal? |
| 18:08.14 | Torch | JanekMon: the situation is not that much different with many other open source projects. |
| 18:08.19 | annma | what's your action? |
| 18:08.32 | Torch | JanekMon: think apache. think the kernel. eclipse, obviously. many, many, many others. gnome, too. |
| 18:08.33 | JanekMon | Torch: I am learning that. |
| 18:08.58 | JanekMon | annma: At the moment to ask and to learn. |
| 18:09.48 | JanekMon | Not maybe a good answer? |
| 18:10.18 | Torch | JanekMon: nothing wrong with that. don't draw any wrong or premature conclusions, though. |
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| 18:12.05 | JanekMon | Torch About Apache. Yes I understand. But so far as I have read I have never seen a refused problem that is so basic to functions. Okay maybe the PHP vs Apache threadsafe argument ... |
| 18:12.59 | Torch | JanekMon: this is going to quickly get off topic now for #kde, i'm afraid. |
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| 18:13.08 | JanekMon | Torch Its too early for end conclusions for me. Just observations for now. And that is that the paper size function does not work, the problem is at Qt, and heavy developers like pinotree and maybe others have not had success to get Qt to act. |
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| 18:13.42 | JanekMon | Torch Sorry, it seems very much a topic for KDE for me. As all of KDE's apps seem effected. But I see, maybe not so much for you and others here. |
| 18:14.11 | Torch | JanekMon: the bug is on topic, sure. but we're pretty much at the end of that discussion as there's really nothing we can do about it. |
| 18:14.11 | JanekMon | Okay thanks. |
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| 18:19.39 | JanekMon | Torch: I see. :-( So Thanks. I think maybe I made a mistake jumping to KDE right now with my group. Its clear we can not, and not the team here too, have the power to make it work for these basic issues for day to day use. We will have to wait longer to make the jump from the comercial solutions. So long for now! |
| 18:19.45 | clustermagnet | guys... this isnt good... kde doesnt seem to have a straight forward way of setting the socks proxy :( |
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| 18:21.19 | clustermagnet | i've made the changes in the proxy settings in system settings menu.... |
| 18:21.24 | clustermagnet | but kontact still refuses to see socks |
| 18:21.34 | clustermagnet | actually, there is no option to specify if its socks 4 or 5 |
| 18:21.39 | clustermagnet | what a piece of shit actually :( |
| 18:23.10 | clustermagnet | http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=24551 |
| 18:23.22 | clustermagnet | so... if socks5 aint supported ... that would be a problem :) |
| 18:25.20 | Torch | good news, 4.4.1 is out, though ;-) |
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| 18:26.19 | clustermagnet | Torch: ha |
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| 18:27.03 | clustermagnet | Torch: why the F does that matter? I cant get kontact to use a socks proxy... dont care about bling |
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| 18:27.44 | Torch | clustermagnet: maybe your parents failed to tell you... but the world actually does NOT revolve around you. |
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| 18:42.54 | mirko | aseigo, hey - thanks for your blogposts related to my qt-port to OpenWrt and qi-hardware :) |
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| 18:44.50 | aseigo | mirko: it's good to let everyone know what's up! :) |
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| 19:00.43 | svuorela | mirko: what can you tell about that box, btw? the nanonote thing. |
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| 19:02.35 | mirko | svuorela, whatever you want :) |
| 19:02.58 | mirko | svuorela, it's openhardware, so schematics are open and downloadable, it has a mips-compatible SoC inside and 32MB of RAM |
| 19:03.05 | mirko | USB and SDIO |
| 19:03.16 | mirko | display is qvga |
| 19:03.31 | svuorela | mirko: like 'is it practically usable' 'can I get a sane linux running on it' 'what's the european retail price' and ... |
| 19:05.01 | mirko | ~100 euros in europe, OpenWrt is running on the device as I'm an OpenWrt-dev, however every other Linux should run as well (kernel patches are mostly rewritten and of a good code quality) |
| 19:05.02 | apt | I think you lost me on that one, mirko |
| 19:05.02 | mirko | usable - depends on what you wanna do with it :) |
| 19:05.02 | svuorela | it doesn't look much larger than a n900 |
| 19:05.15 | svuorela | and a sane linux == debian ;) |
| 19:05.46 | mirko | svuorela, sorry, i don't wanna wait a few minutes until device booted up :) |
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| 19:05.59 | mirko | svuorela, debian is a desktop-distribution |
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| 19:06.33 | mirko | work is over, time to leave... will be back in about 30 minutes |
| 19:07.02 | svuorela | mirko: eh. please don't tell my headless mips and arm boxes that debian is a desktop distribution ;) |
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| 19:39.37 | LuciusMare | hi |
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| 19:40.23 | LuciusMare | I enter systemsettings, go at "digital cameras", select my model and OK - when i test it, it says "success" - But i cant do anything else, how do i get the photos off it? |
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| 19:42.22 | BelaLugosi | LuciusMare: Have a look at digikam |
| 19:42.51 | LuciusMare | Thanks |
| 19:42.52 | BelaLugosi | not _your_ digicam, but the application called digikam ;) |
| 19:42.56 | LuciusMare | haha |
| 19:43.07 | LuciusMare | Well, i do not own a Kamera :) |
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| 19:48.10 | LuciusMare | aw |
| 19:48.17 | LuciusMare | It looks like there are no photos |
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| 19:53.16 | clustermagnet | guys... so whats the best sound way to add a socks proxy to my network configuration :) |
| 19:53.25 | clustermagnet | ideally, i would love kontact (kmail, etc) to use my socks proxy |
| 19:53.26 | clustermagnet | thanks! |
| 19:55.05 | LuciusMare | You are welcome! ^^ |
| 19:55.24 | clustermagnet | ? |
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| 20:00.41 | Algot | hello @annew, are you there |
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| 20:01.17 | annew | Algot: ? krdc? |
| 20:01.47 | Algot | check! |
| 20:02.16 | annew | how're you doing? |
| 20:02.26 | annew | I saw that you've been working on your page again |
| 20:02.29 | Algot | Did you get the chance to try the krdc/krfb info? |
| 20:02.36 | annew | but haven't had time to read yet |
| 20:02.46 | annew | sorry, no, had lots of big issues to deal with |
| 20:02.50 | annew | but still intend to |
| 20:03.20 | Algot | I decided to post anyway. I think I had promised to finish in Feb. March 2 was close. |
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| 20:04.35 | Algot | Big issues are good in your capable hands, annew. |
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| 20:05.40 | annew | hehe - well enough for tonight |
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| 20:05.48 | annew | I haven't forgotten to try out your work |
| 20:05.57 | annew | just had to back-burner it, I'm afraid |
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| 20:24.47 | Wubuntu | Hi,..I'm using an Nvidia GeForce4 MX 420 video card, Karmic Koala 9.10 with a Kubuntu desktop(KDE 4.4.0), and am having problems with cairo-dock with cairo-dock and kde crashes. Can anyone please assist me with these problems? |
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| 20:26.23 | nailuj24 | Wubuntu: have you tried asking on #ubuntu? |
| 20:26.35 | Wubuntu | yes nailuj |
| 20:26.43 | Wubuntu | never get a response |
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| 20:27.52 | nailuj24 | Wubuntu: hmm, but it definitely is a problem with the graphics driver if KDE and cairo-dock are crashing |
| 20:28.46 | Wubuntu | cairo-dock asks me if i want to use the OpenGL,...and then doesn't respond despite whatever i select |
| 20:29.45 | Wubuntu | whenever i attempt to use the composite graphics,...it crashes too |
| 20:29.54 | nailuj24 | you're using the proprietary nVidia driver i suppose? you should really try on #ubuntu or #kubuntu again |
| 20:30.31 | Wubuntu | yes,...i am using the proprietary driver |
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| 20:39.06 | knusper | hi |
| 20:39.18 | knusper | is it possible to have different widgets on different workspaces? |
| 20:39.32 | pvandewyngaerde | use a different activity |
| 20:40.12 | knusper | what different activity |
| 20:40.18 | knusper | activity desktop? |
| 20:40.57 | knusper | i have like 4 workspaces |
| 20:41.29 | knusper | i mapped workspace switching to windows-key+left or right |
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| 20:43.18 | knusper | so when i add a activity it is visible on all workspaces |
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| 20:43.46 | cb400f | you set different activity per virtual desktop |
| 20:44.01 | cb400f | then you can have different widgets on each desktop |
| 20:45.21 | knusper | how? |
| 20:45.34 | knusper | all i see is "add activity" |
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| 20:46.42 | knusper | and i dont see how to asign an activity to a special virtual desktop |
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| 20:48.11 | cb400f | what version? |
| 20:48.18 | knusper | 4.4 |
| 20:48.35 | knusper | and now i managed to screw up |
| 20:48.55 | knusper | i dont see the "nut" in the top right corner anymore |
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| 20:49.00 | cb400f | in 4.4 it's in the pager settings |
| 20:49.05 | knusper | and all my widgets are gone |
| 20:50.11 | knusper | ahh |
| 20:50.12 | knusper | ok |
| 20:50.15 | knusper | i get it |
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| 20:50.35 | knusper | thats confusing |
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| 20:52.08 | knusper | so now i also have to add the backround image again to each workspace |
| 20:52.32 | Chartman123 | knusper: yes the background is part of an activity |
| 20:52.58 | knusper | ah no... |
| 20:53.09 | knusper | i just want one extra widget on workspace 4 |
| 20:53.21 | knusper | so i have to add all the widgets again on each workspace |
| 20:53.32 | knusper | and one extra widget on worskspace 4 |
| 20:54.21 | knusper | thats not exactly what i want |
| 20:54.35 | knusper | this would make sense if i want 4 totally different settings |
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| 20:55.06 | knusper | its not "userfriendly" imho |
| 20:55.35 | knusper | or |
| 20:55.41 | knusper | not friendly for my taste |
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| 20:58.30 | knusper | mh... |
| 20:58.43 | knusper | but something also seems to be screwed up in my config |
| 20:59.56 | knusper | because when i go back to "normal" (same activity on all desktops) i dont see my widgets anymore and i dont see the "nut" and i cant change the desktop bg |
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| 21:00.05 | knusper | right click on desktop does not work then anymore |
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| 21:01.36 | knusper | and when i zoom out (when i have the nut, so with different activities on desktops, because only then i can do it, otherwise i dont see the nut have 5 avtivities |
| 21:02.03 | knusper | so the first activity seems to be screwed up |
| 21:02.06 | knusper | cannot delete it |
| 21:02.28 | Chartman123 | knusper: you could remove the plasma-related config files in ~/.kde4/share/config |
| 21:02.50 | knusper | but then i would have to start from scratch |
| 21:02.54 | knusper | ok |
| 21:02.55 | Chartman123 | and rearrange your desktop after logout/login |
| 21:03.04 | knusper | so which file exactly |
| 21:03.28 | knusper | i think this screwing up happend when updating from 4.3 to 4.4 |
| 21:04.39 | Chartman123 | use this "rm ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*" |
| 21:05.26 | Chartman123 | you could also move those files to another place if you want to have a possibility for going back |
| 21:06.24 | knusper | but this will not change my taksbar (the thing on the bottom) only the desktop & widgets |
| 21:06.37 | knusper | ? |
| 21:06.59 | knusper | is it called "taskbar" |
| 21:07.06 | knusper | where you have the "start-menu" and stuff? |
| 21:07.31 | Chartman123 | no, the taskbar is also a plasma-widget |
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| 21:07.55 | knusper | ok.. then i have to add this widget back |
| 21:08.17 | knusper | but the settings in the taksbar will not be affected by removing the plasma* files |
| 21:08.23 | knusper | ? |
| 21:08.52 | Chartman123 | when those files don't exist, they get recreated with a standard activity, so there will be one taskbar (which is btw called panel) |
| 21:09.38 | Chartman123 | panel settings are also stored in those files |
| 21:10.20 | knusper | ok... i just make a backup, i dont wanna loose everything |
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| 21:10.49 | knusper | and when it will be too much to restore, somebody has to help me, which is screwed up in those files |
| 21:11.13 | knusper | brb |
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| 21:11.20 | Chartman123 | good luck |
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| 21:35.31 | knusper | ok |
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| 21:35.39 | knusper | now i've set up evertyhing to my needs |
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| 21:35.47 | knusper | wasnt that difficult |
| 21:35.55 | knusper | sometimes its better to start from scratch |
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| 21:36.29 | Torch | knusper: may i ask you not to use newline as interpunction? thank you. |
| 21:36.52 | knusper | you |
| 21:36.54 | knusper | mean |
| 21:36.58 | Chartman123 | yes that's also the way I do it, if I get some problems. after a few times, you get used to set it up |
| 21:36.58 | knusper | just kidding |
| 21:38.51 | knusper | from what i understand i could set up different activities, and then i could switch to another one ... for example "work" and "play" |
| 21:39.08 | knusper | i do not need to asign them to desktops... |
| 21:39.29 | knusper | is there somwhere a document where "activities" are explained? |
| 21:41.06 | Torch | knusper: nothing official afaik. you might ask the people on #plasma though. |
| 21:44.36 | knusper | :-( ... ok, but its somehow intuitive |
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| 21:50.19 | knusper | http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/ZUI maybe this? |
| 21:50.50 | Torch | knusper: that's from the early stages. |
| 21:51.00 | Torch | knusper: probably really outdated by now. |
| 21:51.32 | knusper | but the usecases are something i could "imagine" to use that for |
| 21:51.51 | Torch | knusper: yeah, they're still mostly valid as it seems |
| 21:52.32 | SinnerP | is anyone using Kontact with KDE 4.4.0? |
| 21:52.40 | Torch | knusper: some blog entry i remember: http://chani.wordpress.com/2009/11/28/the-future-of-activities/ |
| 21:53.25 | Torch | knusper: this one explains the differences between workspaces and activities a little: http://chani.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/the-limits-of-virtual-desktops/ |
| 21:54.06 | Torch | SinnerP: what's the real problem? |
| 21:54.56 | SinnerP | Kontact is not "saving" and "empty" password for an account with u: anonymous p: (none) |
| 21:55.06 | SinnerP | I noticed this too in KDE 4.3.2 |
| 21:56.15 | SinnerP | to be specific, I am reading the public account for Dovecot IMAP server, which contains all the messages for Dovecot mailing list |
| 21:56.25 | aheinecke | Hi, i really like kde and want to show it like on a t-shirt or a coffee mug, the standard things to start a conversation about KDE, is there some shop for such merchandise somwhere? maybe with some profits going to KDE eV.? |
| 21:57.15 | pvandewyngaerde | i know there is some stuff sold at kde booths at events, i have thirts |
| 21:58.06 | SinnerP | aheinecke: I know some distros employ core KDE developers. Last I heard, K3B developer was employed by Mandriva |
| 21:59.11 | SinnerP | Torch: and either I check or I don't check the box "save password" for that account, it will always ask me for the password for this password-less acount |
| 22:01.31 | knusper | ok... now i get the "thing" with the activities, seems pretty usefull... will try to use it more in the future |
| 22:03.11 | aheinecke | pvandewyngaerde: yeah i saw someone in a blue shirt with a white kde logo and the line "part of the soloution" written on it that's the kind i am looking for but webshop wise i only found http://dot.kde.org/2002/11/08/kde-merchandise-sales-support-developers which i think has a poor choice of products |
| 22:03.15 | knusper | thx 4 pointin that out Chartman123 ... |
| 22:03.23 | aheinecke | i can't wear white ;P |
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| 22:06.12 | avenir | hello! in kde 4.4.0 and 4.4.1, in dolphin toolbar there is a textbox with "Search..." in it. how do i remove it? http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9273/dolphing.jpg |
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| 22:07.46 | Chartman123 | avenir: right-click the menu-bar and uncheck the search-toolbar |
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| 22:11.18 | avenir | Chartman123: two problems with that. 1) have a look: http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/894/dolphin1.jpg |
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| 22:11.34 | avenir | the one without name is the search-toolbar |
| 22:11.55 | avenir | Chartman123: second problem: if i uncheck it and restart dolphin, the search-toolbar reappears |
| 22:12.17 | Chartman123 | avenir: ah ok, i had this bug also some time ago. but don't ask me how i fixed it, can't remember right now |
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| 22:13.16 | _kdepepo | remove dolphinuirc |
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| 22:13.38 | oneforall | hmm strange I have 4.4.0 and it has Main Tool nad Search Toolbar |
| 22:13.38 | Chartman123 | avenir: yes that was what i did |
| 22:13.47 | oneforall | must be a 4.4.1 bug eh |
| 22:14.04 | oneforall | ah |
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| 22:14.11 | avenir | thanks, it worked |
| 22:14.16 | Chartman123 | oneforall: no, it loses the title when you disable it and restart dolphin |
| 22:14.29 | oneforall | ah ok |
| 22:14.42 | oneforall | cause it doesn't delete that rc file eh |
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| 22:40.02 | brmassa | guys, how can i hide the title bar entirely? |
| 22:40.25 | glphvgacs | I had a problem with my panel on KDE 4.3.2 so I deleted the panel and added a neeew one, however now I no longer have the icon to change language or the icon for my wireless. How can I get them back? |
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| 22:47.37 | avenir | brmassa: try systemsettings - appearance - windows - window-specific overrides - add - put 'any' in 'regular expression to match' and tick 'hide window title bar' |
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| 22:48.22 | Nece228 | hi |
| 22:48.31 | Nece228 | why the 4.4.1 changelog is so small? |
| 22:48.51 | avenir | i'm not sure if that value 'any' will work |
| 22:49.25 | Torch | Nece228: it's a bugfix release, so there are no new features. |
| 22:49.48 | Torch | Nece228: also, not all changes are listed there (some devs sometimes forget to add changes to the changelog) |
| 22:50.29 | Nece228 | Torch: i know, but if you will look at kde 4.3.1 changelog its much much bigger |
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| 22:52.20 | Torch | Nece228: well, maybe 4.3.0 had more bugs to fix. who knows. |
| 22:53.10 | Nece228 | Torch: but i still see some issues like glitches in kickoff menu shadows or wrong icon sizes in panel |
| 22:53.23 | Torch | Nece228: have you checked bugs.kde.org? |
| 22:53.28 | brmassa | avenir: i cannot find this "window-specific" button/tab.... |
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| 22:57.00 | avenir | brmassa: http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5253/settingsv.jpg |
| 22:57.18 | avenir | brmassa: look under the title 'Decoration Options', the right-most tab |
| 22:57.47 | avenir | brmassa: only works with Oxygen selected, i suppose |
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| 22:58.32 | Nece228 | Torch: devs know these bugs long ago |
| 22:59.05 | Torch | Nece228: pointless to claim that. either there are bug reports or there aren't. |
| 22:59.08 | sreich | Nece228: your point? |
| 22:59.16 | pinotree | Nece228: note the changelog is not filled automatically but manually, so it does not reflect the reality of the actual fixes being done |
| 22:59.41 | Nece228 | Torch: i talked to notmart, he said he knows bugs, what else should i do? |
| 22:59.50 | Torch | Nece228: nothing you can do. |
| 23:00.09 | Torch | Nece228: be patient. when he finds the time to fix the bugs he will. if it takes too long for your taste pay him. or someone else. |
| 23:00.18 | Nece228 | so thats it, if they know the bugs i dont see any reason to report those bugs |
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| 23:01.38 | sreich | Nece228: or dive into the code yourself |
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| 23:02.18 | Nece228 | sreich: if only i would know how to code.... |
| 23:02.39 | sreich | Nece228: you could always learn, if you are into this sort of thing |
| 23:04.58 | Nece228 | sreich: i would like to learn, but im too busy, because i will need to pass exams |
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| 23:06.31 | sreich | Nece228: then please, have patience. |
| 23:06.48 | Vamp898 | If i set up that i want a different set of widgets on every workspace i still have the same on every workspace and if i delete on widget it gets deleted on all workspaces |
| 23:07.02 | Vamp898 | *one |
| 23:07.27 | Nece228 | sreich: i never said move your a**** faster ;) |
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| 23:08.07 | bbear | Hello. How can I acceed to the control center by the command line ? |
| 23:08.17 | Vamp898 | bbear systemsettings |
| 23:09.24 | sreich | Nece228: :) |
| 23:10.26 | brmassa | avenir: weird. what is your kde version? there no such options here... only "border size" and "title alignment" |
| 23:10.53 | avenir | brmassa: kde 4.4.1, opensuse 11.2 rpm's |
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| 23:11.27 | brmassa | avenir: hmmm that might be the reason. im on 4.3 kubuntu... |
| 23:11.49 | bbear_ | ok are you here ? |
| 23:11.51 | avenir | brmassa: is your Window Decoration Oxygen? |
| 23:11.56 | bbear_ | I missed something ? |
| 23:11.59 | brmassa | avenir: yep. |
| 23:12.52 | avenir | brmassa: maybe it was added in kde sc 4.4 |
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| 23:13.11 | bbear_ | please, how to get the control center through the command line in kde 4.4 ? |
| 23:13.15 | brmassa | avenir: its what im trying to find out now... thanks anyway man! |
| 23:13.25 | Vamp898 | bbear_ [00:08] <Vamp898> bbear systemsettings |
| 23:13.31 | sreich | bbear_: <Vamp898> bbear systemsettings |
| 23:13.35 | sreich | Vamp898: aw |
| 23:13.40 | Vamp898 | sreich faster ;) |
| 23:13.51 | sreich | you win this time.. :) |
| 23:13.53 | Vamp898 | [00:06] <Vamp898> If i set up that i want a different set of widgets on every workspace i still have the same on every workspace and if i delete on widget it gets deleted on all workspaces |
| 23:13.54 | avenir | np |
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| 23:14.02 | bbear_ | systemsettings : command not found. |
| 23:14.08 | bbear_ | What is the package I need ? |
| 23:14.14 | Vamp898 | bbear_ which distribution? |
| 23:14.15 | sreich | bbear_: are you running kde4? |
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| 23:14.21 | cool | Hi, I am not able to start KDE in OpenSuse 11.2 it says "Starting service kdm4 - unsed". what could be wrong and how to fix it? |
| 23:14.22 | Vamp898 | sreich i bet no xD |
| 23:14.26 | bbear_ | yes , archlinux |
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| 23:14.29 | bbear_ | kde4.4 |
| 23:14.33 | Vamp898 | bbear_ pacman -S kdebase |
| 23:14.47 | sreich | Vamp898: again! :p |
| 23:14.52 | bbear_ | thanks |
| 23:17.43 | avenir | what's the analogue of 'systemsettings' on gnome? (: |
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| 23:18.13 | Torch | avenir: ask on #gnome ;-) |
| 23:18.25 | Vamp898 | did not helped :( i stell have the same widgets on all Workspaces and when i delete one widget it gets still deleted on every workspace |
| 23:19.14 | Vamp898 | any idea? |
| 23:19.16 | Torch | cool: ask on #suse. your system is probably not set up to use kdm. |
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| 23:21.23 | bbear_ | good night. |
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| 23:21.50 | Vamp898 | bbear_ n8 |
| 23:21.51 | javier_ | cool: it sounds like it's not set to start at boot up time |
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| 23:22.37 | cool | javier_: checking |
| 23:24.16 | Vamp898 | should i open an Bug report or is it a fixable problem? |
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| 23:25.22 | Ze_M | i remember that in kde-3.5 there was a quick way to chare files online, anyone knows? |
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| 23:29.07 | Ze_M | what happened with kpf? |
| 23:29.47 | pinotree | no more developed; a new solution is kephal |
| 23:29.55 | pinotree | -h |
| 23:30.10 | pinotree | sorry, kepas |
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| 23:31.18 | cool | Torch: javier_ : I tried asking at #suse not much of help, can you guys help? I would be gratefull |
| 23:32.36 | javier_ | cool: what version of KDE are you using? |
| 23:32.51 | Ze_M | pinotree: how does it work |
| 23:34.24 | javier_ | cool: run service xdm status (as root) |
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| 23:34.47 | cool | javier_: kdm 4.4 |
| 23:35.11 | javier_ | i suppose you mean 4.4.0 |
| 23:35.24 | javier_ | ok, try to run the command i typed above |
| 23:36.00 | cool | It says "unsed" |
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| 23:36.36 | Ze_M | pinotree: kepas its just same as kpf |
| 23:36.38 | javier_ | cool: chkconfig --add xdm |
| 23:37.05 | cool | done |
| 23:37.06 | pinotree | Ze_M: i don't use it (didn't use kpf either), but you can try it |
| 23:37.11 | javier_ | to make it start automatically at boot up |
| 23:37.24 | cool | javier_: should I restart to test ? |
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| 23:37.36 | javier_ | cool: if you reboot it should be started automatically |
| 23:37.44 | javier_ | yes |
| 23:37.49 | cool | k |
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| 23:40.15 | cool | javier_: didn't work :( |
| 23:40.33 | cool | no no display |
| 23:40.56 | javier_ | cool: what does it say? |
| 23:41.18 | cool | same, service kdm4 status "unused" |
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| 23:42.24 | cool | I also checked by xorg.conf, there is nothing wrong there |
| 23:42.32 | javier_ | cool: login in as root and type service xdm start |
| 23:45.27 | cool | it says "xdm error (pid 3425): extra arguments on command line:xdm error (pid 3425): |
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| 23:45.50 | cool | "start" xdm error (pid 3425) |
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| 23:46.48 | cool | javier_: in in the same line, I manually typed it so it came in two lines |
| 23:47.24 | cool | this comes when typing "xdm start" |
| 23:47.39 | cool | when I type "service xdm start" |
| 23:47.48 | cool | it says "unused" :-( |
| 23:48.12 | cool | "Starting service kdm4 unused" |
| 23:48.23 | javier_ | cool: and it hangs? |
| 23:48.28 | cool | nopes |
| 23:48.41 | Ze_M | pinotree: i thought kepas would appear available from plasma-applets |
| 23:48.42 | cool | completes without any errors |
| 23:49.14 | javier_ | cool: and you don't get a graphical session? |
| 23:49.21 | cool | no |
| 23:49.36 | cool | I even tried restarting |
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| 23:49.50 | cool | it first it says " Stopping kdm4 done" |
| 23:50.02 | cool | then it says " start service kdm4 unused" |
| 23:50.16 | cool | and the commands completes succuessfully |
| 23:50.28 | cool | any ideas? |
| 23:51.04 | javier_ | cool: this is a bit offtopic here I think, better move this conversation to #suse |
| 23:51.07 | javier_ | I am there |
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