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| 00:04.04 | zegenie_ | thiago_home: long shot, but seeing as you answered a question about kmail, I'm gonna jump you |
| 00:04.22 | zegenie_ | do you know if there is any way to make kmail *not* copy /move an email when doing IMAP spam filtering? |
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| 00:04.36 | zegenie_ | annoying that it makes a copy and moves that copy to the trash :/ |
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| 00:09.49 | Abcdqfr | Hello |
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| 00:15.07 | Abcdqfr | Anybody online? |
| 00:15.13 | cbwcjw | Yep |
| 00:15.31 | Abcdqfr | Cool |
| 00:16.00 | Abcdqfr | Can you give me some help? |
| 00:16.48 | cbwcjw | I'm pretty sure a lot of people can, you should ask a question. |
| 00:17.42 | zegenie_ | lol |
| 00:18.15 | cbwcjw | We can't exactly read minds. |
| 00:18.27 | zegenie_ | bah, speak for yourself |
| 00:18.36 | FraCast1983 | ok... |
| 00:19.30 | Abcdqfr | If I'm using kubuntu 9.1, what file whould I input to return a file I could use with windows boot.ini to dual boot? |
| 00:20.00 | cbwcjw | If I'm not mistaken, that's more distro specific, /join #kubuntu |
| 00:20.12 | Abcdqfr | I've used null, like the article read, but no cigar |
| 00:20.27 | Abcdqfr | Alright, thank you cbwcjw |
| 00:20.27 | cleary | bootloaders, nothing to do with kde... |
| 00:20.47 | cbwcjw | cleary: I was being nice :O hahah. |
| 00:21.08 | cleary | wasn't being un-nice, just factual ;) |
| 00:21.14 | Abcdqfr | Oops, forgot I had set this as the default channel. :P |
| 00:21.25 | Abcdqfr | Thanks guys |
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| 00:22.51 | FoxBlitzz | Umm, GHNS won't uninstall some themes I installed |
| 00:23.10 | FoxBlitzz | I click Uninstall, leave the dialog, the items are still in the list, I go back into GHNS, and it says they're still installed... |
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| 00:28.18 | FoxBlitzz | Is it okay for me to manually remove them from the relevant folders? |
| 00:29.15 | sreich | couldn't hurt, I suppose |
| 00:29.20 | sreich | it'll probably figure it out |
| 00:29.29 | sreich | you could always just move it out, and if it fails, move it back |
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| 00:36.38 | maazu | ciao! |
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| 00:49.42 | Aspect- | greetings... |
| 00:50.06 | Aspect- | when attempting to install kde4 from ports on fbsd8.0 with make install i get an error related to some hebrew* file. |
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| 00:51.55 | Aspect- | is there something i can easliy do to remedy the error? |
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| 01:31.44 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.1 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 01:31.49 | buntu_ | that means I can't mount it right |
| 01:32.03 | aseigo | jdm64: it could be that kwin is indeed mis-detecting it. have you tried turning it on manually in the system settings? |
| 01:32.25 | Aspect- | i think it means you can't read it |
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| 01:32.47 | buntu_ | Aspect-: but I know the password I think |
| 01:33.10 | Aspect- | same os? |
| 01:33.13 | buntu_ | yes |
| 01:34.11 | Aspect- | you could try and mount it i suppose |
| 01:34.59 | jdm64 | aseigo: I've tried that, but it either says that it's enabled, but it's realy not (because I reopen sys settings and it's off) or it complains that another program is suspending it. |
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| 01:37.29 | jdm64 | will be back, checking if restarting will fix it |
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| 01:42.48 | phoenix_ | hello everyone |
| 01:43.30 | phoenix_ | is there a way to play drm protected wma files in kubuntu |
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| 01:56.59 | ericG | alt+tabbing is currently limited to switching through windows in the active desktop..where is the setting to make it work across all desktops? can't find it anywhere... |
| 01:57.17 | ericG | nevermind |
| 01:57.41 | ericG | spend 5 minutes searching for it then find it right after asking |
| 01:57.45 | aseigo | :) |
| 01:58.01 | aseigo | puts away his 5-minutes-before-answering timer ;) |
| 01:58.07 | aseigo | amazing what you can use an egg timer for |
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| 02:10.39 | phoenix_ | is there a way to play drm protected wma files in kubuntu |
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| 02:21.26 | phoenix__ | is there a way to play drm protected wma files in kubuntu |
| 02:22.10 | szal | phoenix__: wrong channel |
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| 02:22.45 | phoenix__ | szal: can amarok play wma |
| 02:24.10 | szal | if you have a codec od direct show filter installed, yes |
| 02:25.24 | uspenok | Qt: 4.6.2 |
| 02:25.25 | uspenok | KDE: 4.4.63 (KDE 4.4.63 (KDE 4.5 >= 20100209)) |
| 02:25.27 | uspenok | kde4-config: 1.0 |
| 02:25.59 | magyar | i have an odd issue with konsole, new profiles do not show up in menu and the check marks keep disappearing after the reboot on "Show in Menu" selection |
| 02:26.25 | szal | uspenok: and? |
| 02:26.46 | uspenok | szal: sorry, its mistake |
| 02:26.55 | uspenok | wrong chanal |
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| 02:28.00 | szal | uspenok: you do realize that your build is a month old? so if you're reporting issues, try updating to the latest build first |
| 02:28.30 | uspenok | szal: i can't that is the question |
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| 02:29.20 | uspenok | szal: some important packages doesn't compile such a kdeplasma-addons plasma-workspace and etc. ( |
| 02:29.59 | uspenok | is it only my problem ? Or mb it's some bugs in svn ? |
| 02:33.20 | uspenok | ohh come on, i can't belive that no-one from this chanal doesn't compile kde from svn for a month |
| 02:33.31 | uspenok | was it ok ? |
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| 03:46.23 | SherriT | Hi. I'm trying to get KMail to display a new "Tag List" column in the 1st position in the message list window. If I add & reposition the column by right-clicking on the Message List window's header bar, the new column shows up, but after app restart, it snaps back to the previous settings. |
| 03:46.44 | SherriT | If I change the setting in the view theme, they neither show up in the app, nor stick through closing/reopening the preference pane. |
| 03:47.15 | SherriT | How do I get modify the column layout so it sticks? |
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| 04:16.26 | mohankumar | whats the channel for discussing kmail issues? |
| 04:17.31 | SherriT | mohankumar: This is supposed to be, but kindof quiet in here right now |
| 04:17.49 | mohankumar | SherriT: thank u |
| 04:17.56 | mohankumar | i am using kmail with disconnected imap option |
| 04:18.10 | mohankumar | the problem is the imap server has shared folders and that has lkml mails |
| 04:18.27 | mohankumar | how do i disable kmail accessing shared folders? |
| 04:18.39 | mohankumar | kmail spends most of the time in sync'ing shared folder mails |
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| 07:19.07 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.1 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 07:42.01 | mcmlxxi | hello |
| 07:42.22 | mcmlxxi | where can I get help with kiosk admin tool? |
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| 07:44.43 | carl- | "No resource agents have been found, Akonadi is not usable without at least one. This usually means that no resource agents are installed or that there is a setup problem. " |
| 07:44.52 | carl- | what does that mean .. what do i nead to do |
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| 07:46.29 | Aspect- | any idea on how to fix a kdelibs4 broken hebrew file dependency? |
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| 07:48.37 | avenir | carl-: have a look on http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi |
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| 07:50.41 | Aspect- | http://pastebin.ca/1822360 |
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| 08:43.26 | miasma | hmm, why can't gwenview preview pdf files, but it supports eps? |
| 08:43.41 | miasma | it's not a large problem.. i can manually open each pdf in okular |
| 08:43.52 | miasma | but a preview of the folder would be nice |
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| 08:53.42 | kennethaar | HI |
| 08:55.45 | kennethaar | So how kan I enable html as default in Kmail? Replying to a html message only turns it into a plaintext email with * where the bold used to be and all pictures and colors are gone. |
| 08:58.05 | kennethaar | BTW using Kubuntu 9.10 KDE 4.4.1 |
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| 09:01.39 | cb400f | kennethaar: settings -> configure kmail -> security I guess |
| 09:01.47 | cb400f | .. never felt the need to send html e-mails |
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| 09:02.57 | cb400f | or maybe you need to select html under options in the composer window |
| 09:03.44 | avenir | cb400f: i just checked all the settings, there doesn't seem to be a way to preserve formatting in quoted message |
| 09:04.48 | kennethaar | cb400f: Hm already did that but it is still converted to plain text. Weird thing is I still get to format things with html. |
| 09:04.59 | bendie | I've got a question about nepomuk: When I tag some files in a directory and then rename that directory, all tags of the files in the directory disappear. Bug or Feature? Same thing whenever I move a tagged file. |
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| 09:10.12 | kennethaar | bendie: serious bug it sounds to me... |
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| 09:22.09 | kennethaar | bendie: Although it could also be a security setting. Only I have never seen it anywhere (which of course doesn't necessarily mean anything) |
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| 09:37.31 | Mamarok | hi. I have a serious problem: since my upgrade to SC 4.4.1, I don't see the KNotes anymore in the SystemTray. When starting the application and setting it to show in the SystemTray, it never shows up |
| 09:37.35 | Mamarok | all my memos and notes for work are in there... |
| 09:37.56 | Mamarok | and accessing it throug Kontact is a pain, since you don't even see the whole title there, and I have like 50 of those |
| 09:38.30 | Mamarok | which makes it a regression for me |
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| 09:47.27 | avenir | Mamarok: i read recently that knotes is being dropped from KDE SC, don't remember from which version though |
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| 09:49.30 | gcala | Hi, is it possible to have translucent notifications? |
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| 09:50.09 | cb400f | that would depend on the plasma theme |
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| 09:52.40 | gcala | I'm using aria but they're opaque |
| 09:53.15 | Mamarok | avenir: that makes close to no sense, since it is part of Kontact |
| 09:54.07 | avenir | Mamarok: they have no developer, and will be replaced probably by KJots. anyways, i just found info that it is planned for KDE SC 4.5, so that shoudln't affect 4.4.1 |
| 09:54.41 | Mamarok | avenir: well, the problem is it is not used the same way, KJots is not nearly as uasable for me as KNotes is, and I would need to convert everything |
| 09:55.18 | Mamarok | since KJots is always open, the KNotes are individual items I can place on the various activity/desktops |
| 09:55.20 | avenir | Mamarok: they are discussing automatic conversion to whatever will replace KNotes |
| 09:55.41 | Mamarok | I very much hope so, but it doesn't solve my immediate problem: how am I going to work now? |
| 09:55.49 | Mamarok | this is an essetinal item of my workflow |
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| 09:56.10 | Mamarok | and even if checked, it never shows up in the SysTray |
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| 09:57.33 | avenir | Mamarok: can't help you there, because it is shown in the system tray on my computer, kde sc 4.4.1 also |
| 09:58.27 | Mamarok | avenir: thanks anyway :) |
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| 10:03.02 | DeviantPeer | hi all! |
| 10:03.03 | soa2ii | Does Konqueror have somewhere a bookmark window at the left? Like opera/IE have? |
| 10:03.17 | DeviantPeer | in kmail what is the diference between connected imap and disconnected imap? |
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| 10:03.57 | avenir | DeviantPeer: disconnected imap caches all mail on your computer, connected doesn't - you can't read mail while offline |
| 10:04.07 | DeviantPeer | ok. |
| 10:04.12 | DeviantPeer | thx |
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| 10:10.23 | shal3r | [KDE4.4.1] Akonadi fails to start with MySQL 5.1.44. Logfile - http://pastebin.ca/1822432 . Any ideas? |
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| 10:15.36 | Torch | soa2ii: settings -> show sidebar |
| 10:16.14 | soa2ii | Torch: excatly! |
| 10:16.19 | soa2ii | Thanks (: |
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| 10:36.12 | auxsvr | hi |
| 10:37.04 | auxsvr | has anyone else noticed problems with the size of the digital clock on the panel? |
| 10:37.26 | auxsvr | occasionally it falls in an endless loop here resizing |
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| 10:38.20 | auxsvr | using kde 4.4 |
| 10:39.38 | Aspect- | i'll look at it if i can ever get it to install... |
| 10:40.12 | szal | nothing looping here |
| 10:40.39 | auxsvr | it does this if I change from one timezone to London at the moment |
| 10:41.32 | auxsvr | I think it tries to decide whether the date + timezone should be split in two lines or something |
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| 10:44.19 | auxsvr | using qt 4.6.2 |
| 10:44.59 | auxsvr | sometimes it splits in 2 lines and the time protrudes to the left |
| 10:45.16 | auxsvr | other times it just loops |
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| 10:50.56 | auxsvr | settings: date, day of the week, time zone, seconds, arev sans font |
| 10:51.12 | auxsvr | several timezones including London |
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| 10:58.23 | Torch | auxsvr: i had somthing similar with kde 4.3 on my laptop once. |
| 10:58.37 | Torch | auxsvr: not much help, though... i didn't fix it. just went away. |
| 10:59.04 | auxsvr | Torch: I 've seen several problems with clock sizing throughout 4. |
| 10:59.34 | auxsvr | Torch: at least it's not just me |
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| 11:06.45 | kwk | Hello, I'd like to know if I can get help here with KDE 3.5.10 from Debian Lenny? I think there is a strange behaviour considering KPrinter. |
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| 11:14.35 | kwk | Hello, I'd like to know if I can get help here with KDE 3.5.10 from Debian Lenny? I think there is a strange behaviour considering KPrinter. KDE developers just told me that KDE 3.5 is no longer being developed. Well, files are being deleted when converted to a printable format. Try printing a PLAIN TEXT, a PDF and a JPG document and see for yourself! |
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| 11:23.15 | boelkmoeller3 | how to find out which kde verion is installed for a user which has no X privilegue and no access to packagedb? |
| 11:23.44 | boelkmoeller3 | is there a command for cl to find out which version is installed |
| 11:24.18 | Schorfi | boelkmoeller3: kde-open --version |
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| 11:26.18 | kwk | boelkmoeller3: Try this "dpkg -s kdebase" |
| 11:26.27 | Torch | kwk: no. that's specific to debian. |
| 11:26.53 | Torch | boelkmoeller3: schorfi's idea is good, kde4-config --version is even better though. |
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| 11:27.18 | Schorfi | if it's kde4 and not still kde3 :) |
| 11:27.21 | boelkmoeller3 | thank you all |
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| 11:34.29 | kwk | boelkmoeller3: also try "kde-config -v" if you don't know the version of KDE (3/4 |
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| 12:34.50 | HollyRain | any tool to grab the screen? |
| 12:35.30 | pinotree | ksnapshot |
| 12:35.36 | HollyRain | s/grab/save |
| 12:35.45 | HollyRain | thanks |
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| 12:41.12 | AlexZion | hi guys, I update my Kubuntu with kde 4.4.1, great job,congratulation to everyone ..... |
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| 12:44.02 | AlexZion | til now I saw just one strange thing on the Knetworkmanager, when starts , if I click on it , the panel with my connections appears on the top left corner of my display ......, but I tried to open and close the config windows , after that everything come back to normal ...., there is a way to fix this small things !?! |
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| 13:17.09 | shal3r | [KDE4.4.1] Akonadi fails to start with MySQL 5.1.44. Logfile - http://pastebin.ca/1822432 . Any ideas? |
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| 13:18.36 | annma | shal3r: what distro? |
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| 13:19.47 | shal3r | annma, Gentoo |
| 13:20.10 | annma | and did you ask them about it? |
| 13:20.20 | annma | #gentoo-kde |
| 13:20.45 | annma | if they provide the ebuild maybe they know about it |
| 13:21.31 | annma | it works with 5.1.42 |
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| 13:56.43 | bigbrovar | hi guys, I am trying to get my finger print reader to work on kde. is there any tool for during fingerprint authentication on kde? |
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| 13:57.58 | annma | bigbrovar: what does your tool do? |
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| 13:59.54 | bigbrovar | annma: well am just looking for any way IU cant configure my fingerprint reader for authentication. thinkfinger does not work with kde, and fprint is gnome only :( |
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| 14:01.13 | annma | thinkfinger doesnot work with KDE? |
| 14:01.42 | annma | why is that? |
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| 14:05.34 | bigbrovar | annma: IDK appearantly there is a bug which makes kdm crash every time I attempt to login |
| 14:06.21 | annma | weird, isn't thinkfinger a lib |
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| 14:06.43 | annma | login without kdm to see |
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| 14:31.31 | pierre_ | hello, using kubuntu with kde 4.4, kmail through kontact and firefox 3.5.8. I use firefox and kontact in 2 different virtual desktops, when clicking an URL from a message in kmail, it opens in a new firefox tab (thats what i want) but the firefox window appear in the kontact virtual desktop. I would like to see firefox in its current desktop with the new tab opened. I googled and found no working fix. Anyone have/fixed that problem? |
| 14:32.10 | Sho_ | IIRC it's basically a Firefox bug |
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| 14:32.29 | Sho_ | It intentionally puts itself on the other desktop |
| 14:32.43 | Sho_ | However, you may be able to prevent it from doing so by forcing the VD via KDE's Special Window Settings |
| 14:32.57 | Sho_ | see the window menu (alt+f3 or right-click the title bar) |
| 14:34.08 | pierre_ | I'm trying it thanks |
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| 14:43.57 | pierre_ | it does not work |
| 14:44.19 | pierre_ | using special window settings or special application settings |
| 14:44.43 | pierre_ | have to go, thanks |
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| 14:50.04 | pigdude | I'm running KDE 3.5.x. Is there a way I can get KDE to remember window positions? I'd also like to make new windows open centered on the screen if possible. I didn't see settings for this in the control center. |
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| 14:52.14 | annma_ | pigdude: did you try the program in a terminal with the --geopmetry option? |
| 14:52.21 | annma_ | --geometry |
| 14:52.34 | snuggl | gah |
| 14:52.36 | pigdude | annew, which program? |
| 14:52.48 | annma_ | new windows |
| 14:52.50 | snuggl | the lock screen thingie stopped doing black over my whole screen |
| 14:53.01 | snuggl | but gladly shows the bottom corner after a notification |
| 14:53.13 | snuggl | which now showed a private IM msg for all =| |
| 14:53.19 | pigdude | annma_, no, I haven't tried that. This can only be done as a command flag? |
| 14:53.23 | snuggl | is this known? |
| 14:53.31 | snuggl | really a showstopper for using KDE at work =P |
| 14:53.51 | pigdude | firefox --geometry (opened, moved win, closed), firefox --geometry (still opened in the top left corner) |
| 14:53.52 | snuggl | so think i should report it else |
| 14:54.03 | annma_ | snuggl: pardon? |
| 14:54.14 | snuggl | annma_: lock screen, the screen should now be black |
| 14:54.22 | annma_ | lock screen stopped working?* |
| 14:54.25 | snuggl | but, if a notify-popup gets active |
| 14:54.32 | snuggl | it will show the bottom corner of my screen |
| 14:54.36 | snuggl | no black overlay |
| 14:54.53 | snuggl | so i locked my screen and it was black, come back and the corner is non-black and all can read my IM |
| 14:54.58 | snuggl | but still locked |
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| 14:55.03 | annma_ | look in bugs.kde.org oif it's reported snuggl |
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| 14:55.21 | snuggl | will do! |
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| 14:59.11 | pigdude | oh no, I killed my panels somehow...is there a way to return to the default panels? |
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| 14:59.25 | annma | there's only one default panel |
| 15:00.08 | pigdude | annew, it was odd. I added a new panel. positioned it to the right, where it became a flat gray column. then my main (default) panel got a right arrow button, which I clicked. Now I can't see any panels. |
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| 15:00.19 | pigdude | should've picked a decent KDE distro |
| 15:00.42 | pigdude | the gray column is still present but is unresponsive to clicks |
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| 15:01.38 | pigdude | I guess I'll have to log out and back in, hope that fixes it |
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| 15:17.42 | pigdude | Is there no way to delete my panel settings/state? This is very problematic because I don't have a system tray and certain apps I use are run from there |
| 15:18.09 | pigdude | this is kde 3.5.x |
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| 15:19.24 | pigdude | I grepped ~/.kde for panel but nothing seems relevant |
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| 15:37.20 | zlinux | hi |
| 15:37.34 | zlinux | how to reset the system menu for a user to default? |
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| 15:44.51 | avenir | zlinux: which system menu |
| 15:45.09 | zlinux | avenir, the k menu |
| 15:45.29 | zlinux | avenir, the bottom left button |
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| 15:46.43 | avenir | zlinux: log out, delete ~/.kde4/share/config/kickoffrc |
| 15:46.45 | avenir | i think |
| 15:47.05 | avenir | zlinux: or better mv kickoffrc kickoffrc-old |
| 15:47.11 | zlinux | avenir, i use version 3.5.6 |
| 15:47.16 | zlinux | 3.5.4 * |
| 15:47.17 | junkDawgie | zlinux: what exactly are you trying to repair? |
| 15:47.25 | avenir | zlinux: oops, sorry |
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| 15:48.56 | zlinux | junkDawgie, after i upgraded from kde 3.x (don't remember, RHEL4) to kde 3.5.4 (RHEL5) |
| 15:49.19 | zlinux | the menu is still not showing the new items |
| 15:49.28 | zlinux | if i create a new user, it works. |
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| 15:49.36 | zlinux | but i'd like to repair my current user |
| 15:49.54 | junkDawgie | try running kbuildsycoca |
| 15:52.13 | junkDawgie | to be exact i think it would be "kbuildsyscoca --noincremental", just looked at the command options |
| 15:52.26 | zlinux | brb |
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| 15:57.38 | junkDawgie | typo "kbuildsycoca --noincremental" |
| 15:58.44 | hrad | hey, could anybody tell me how to stop the authorization requests when using the default twitter widget ? |
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| 15:59.56 | hrad | I set the password in the options, but it still throwing the KDE authorization dialog each 5/10 minutes |
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| 16:41.28 | bendj | I need to deploy a 2nd mail client (Kmail being already installed) to simply (1) import/open an mbox file, and (2) print out all messages in the mbox. GUI's prefereable, scriptability is nice to have, end-user-easy is required. From the g'zillion clients out there ... any recommendations? |
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| 16:51.51 | zegenie | bendj: thunderbird? |
| 16:51.54 | rcc | yup |
| 16:52.02 | rcc | thuderbird i'd say myself too |
| 16:52.07 | rcc | tunder |
| 16:52.09 | rcc | argh |
| 16:52.10 | rcc | thunder |
| 16:52.13 | zegenie | :P |
| 16:52.16 | rcc | :P |
| 16:52.33 | rcc | my typing skills are getting worse and worse as I get older |
| 16:52.47 | zegenie | how old are you? |
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| 16:54.04 | rcc | 30 |
| 16:54.06 | rcc | :D |
| 16:54.30 | zegenie | haha |
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| 16:54.44 | zegenie | I'll keep that in mind ;) |
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| 16:54.57 | bendj | zegenie: sure, certainly looks to be the most popular alternative. seems a shame to install a "full blown" app (yes, a fuzzy definition ...) to "just print", but beggars don't get to be choosers, I suppose ... |
| 16:55.29 | rcc | well, i guess that if you just want to import an mbox and print out messages, you could use python |
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| 16:55.58 | rcc | http://docs.python.org/library/mailbox.html |
| 16:56.00 | rcc | ^ |
| 16:56.05 | bendj | rcc requirements include -> GUI, end-user-easy. unless ... a drag-n-drop 'applet'. hmm .... |
| 16:56.14 | bendj | thx! looking ... |
| 16:56.17 | rcc | np |
| 16:57.01 | leg- | I need a graphical environment for 1 elderly and novice user that only needs to check their emails and do some browsing...should I take the KDE login manager and core KDE Components for this purpose? |
| 16:58.01 | rcc | check it out this: |
| 16:58.03 | rcc | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXLauncher |
| 16:58.16 | rcc | it's the same you find on asus EEE iirc |
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| 16:58.19 | rcc | simple |
| 16:58.20 | rcc | and clean |
| 16:58.45 | leg- | I'd rather stick with kde or gnome since it has a larger userbase and therefore more documentation etc |
| 16:58.48 | bendj | rcc Looks straighforward enuf ... will play around with it. Hadn't thought abt the script-only approach. You'd think, though, that if it's "so easy" with a python script (I'm assuming, I know ...), that getting it working in KMail itself wouldn't be a big deal. But, workarounds "Get it done (TM)!" |
| 16:58.49 | leg- | dont want something too exotic |
| 16:59.03 | rcc | heh |
| 16:59.04 | leg- | ah that wasnt adressed to me :p |
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| 16:59.18 | rcc | dunno leg- |
| 16:59.24 | rcc | there was something called kiosk |
| 16:59.30 | rcc | at kde3 old days |
| 16:59.37 | rcc | maybe you could have a look at that |
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| 17:01.03 | rcc | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/NetbookPlasma |
| 17:01.09 | rcc | sort of similar to lxlauncher approach |
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| 17:01.11 | puchu | hi |
| 17:01.12 | rcc | but styaing at kde land |
| 17:01.16 | rcc | leg- ^ |
| 17:01.38 | puchu | is there a way to set paper orientation in the kde printer dialog to "portrait" as default? |
| 17:01.47 | leg- | I allready installed debian |
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| 17:04.04 | leg- | rcc if im correct kiosk is to limit users and groups |
| 17:04.19 | leg- | but should you advice me to install the 'normal' or 'core' kde package? |
| 17:04.24 | rcc | yeah, but you could also restrict what was available |
| 17:04.25 | rcc | i.e. |
| 17:04.40 | rcc | kmail + browser |
| 17:04.49 | rcc | but the plasma approach looks awesome |
| 17:04.54 | rcc | check it out the videos on the link i pasted |
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| 17:07.06 | frankS2_ | hi where do I change so that i can use alt+f1 and so on to change workspaces? |
| 17:09.51 | urkud | kwin options |
| 17:10.04 | urkud | More precisely, "configure desktops" |
| 17:10.21 | urkud | In desktops plasmoid |
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| 17:15.26 | frankS2_ | urkud: i cant find it there |
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| 17:17.35 | viric | Hello all |
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| 17:17.42 | zegenie | hi viric |
| 17:17.44 | frankS2_ | habla espanol? |
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| 17:18.17 | urkud | frankS2_: Have you opened "configure desktops" dialog? |
| 17:18.24 | viric | hi |
| 17:18.27 | viric | I have problems with 'kompare' |
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| 17:18.33 | viric | it crashes for me, if not run as root. |
| 17:18.36 | frankS2_ | urkud: i have no such option |
| 17:18.40 | viric | kde 4.3.5 |
| 17:18.58 | viric | Anyone using kde 4.3.5 with kdesdk, that can run 'kompare'? |
| 17:19.05 | frankS2_ | urkud: i have desktop settinggs |
| 17:19.09 | viric | stracing I have not seen anything of value. |
| 17:19.16 | frankS2_ | urkud: thats all and theres nothing there like shorticuts |
| 17:19.34 | urkud | Do you have two tabs in this dialog? |
| 17:19.39 | urkud | (btw, which version?) |
| 17:19.47 | frankS2_ | no tabs |
| 17:19.52 | frankS2_ | urkud: default that runs with ubuntu |
| 17:20.11 | frankS2_ | urkud: kde 4.3.2 |
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| 17:25.37 | urkud | Sorry, I use 4.4 |
| 17:25.57 | urkud | You can also configure it in global shortcuts |
| 17:27.30 | urkud | "System Settings" -> "Keyboard&Mouse" -> "Global shortcuts", choose kwin |
| 17:27.33 | phoenix_ | what is the best video converter for kde |
| 17:28.27 | phoenix_ | is there a way to play drm protected files in kde |
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| 17:39.45 | saft | phoenix_: i fear that you wont be able to play drm on any other system than the one allowed by the owner of that file.. and you arent the owner if it has DRM... |
| 17:40.21 | saft | ask the owner why you cant play it where you want to play |
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| 17:42.40 | phoenix_ | saft: i am the owner of the file, i can get the licence from the web. but no player is able to play the file |
| 17:43.24 | Torch | phoenix_: you're obviously NOT the owner. or you would not have that problem. |
| 17:43.45 | phoenix_ | but i am able to play in windows 7 |
| 17:43.57 | Torch | phoenix_: because the owner allows you to. |
| 17:44.07 | Torch | phoenix_: he does not allow you to play it on linux. |
| 17:44.21 | urkud | phoenix_: you're the owner of encrypted file |
| 17:44.55 | urkud | And of a part of decryption key |
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| 17:45.19 | phoenix_ | so we can play drm protect wma files in linux |
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| 17:46.24 | urkud | If someone have cracked drm algorithm, you will be able to play this type of file. |
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| 17:47.31 | urkud | You can try to sue the distributor because he lets you pay Microsoft for playing his file. |
| 17:47.50 | urkud | (the distributor of DRM'd file) |
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| 17:51.08 | phoenix_ | but i have the licence for the file |
| 17:51.16 | phoenix_ | i bought the file |
| 17:52.56 | spectral | so return it and ask for a refund and buy it somewhere else without drm crippleage |
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| 17:56.07 | phoenix_ | i bought it from nokia music store. will they refund |
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| 17:58.28 | spectral | ask them |
| 17:59.56 | phoenix_ | just now, i read that, nokia music store suppots only internet explorer and only drm protected wma files |
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| 18:30.59 | WormDrink | Hi |
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| 18:31.23 | WormDrink | im looking for some way to order my files - like with tags |
| 18:32.12 | WormDrink | so for solaris 10 reference manual part 2 would be solaris, reference manual, operating system, unix, etc ... |
| 18:32.42 | WormDrink | then the document would have metadata to indicate its source, say docs.sun.com and maybe version info etc |
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| 18:48.15 | pARAd0X85 | hi |
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| 18:48.56 | pARAd0X85 | I have modified KDE 4.4 KWin and I a can no more have the preview window when pressing Alt-Tab |
| 18:49.27 | pARAd0X85 | tried many combination of enabling/disabling things in KWin effects but no more it works as before |
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| 18:50.01 | pARAd0X85 | when I press Alt-Tab, it is the old way switching mode |
| 18:50.12 | aditya | hey, can someone tell me how to move the window list window in panel? |
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| 18:50.23 | pARAd0X85 | ahhh sorry get |
| 18:50.24 | pARAd0X85 | it |
| 18:50.32 | pARAd0X85 | found the solution |
| 18:50.42 | aditya | I mean, the windows are auto sequenced as 1,2,3,4. I want to move 1 and 4 together. 1,4,2,3. In gnome you can just drag the windows in order you want. |
| 18:50.47 | pARAd0X85 | sorry I was searching in the bad place : ! |
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| 18:57.35 | aditya | anyone? |
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| 18:58.25 | haku2 | hi |
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| 19:03.35 | djustice | aditya: open them in that order? i dunno if kde has a task manager with that 'feature'.. |
| 19:04.40 | aditya | hehe... open them in that order is a bad option :) Can't always do that. It seems people are requesting it for long time. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-August/157088.html |
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| 19:05.15 | sredna2 | aditya: rightclick the taskbar, and select taskbar settings, then set the sorting to manual |
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| 19:05.40 | djustice | nice |
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| 19:06.04 | Yarcanox | plasma's window grouping is broken here |
| 19:06.06 | Yarcanox | pretty odd |
| 19:06.21 | Yarcanox | has someone ever tested this in a vertical taskbar? |
| 19:06.36 | aditya | djustice: one more thing, is there a way to put some symbol on minimized windows? Like a bracket |
| 19:06.37 | Yarcanox | it seems to be one of those nasty bugs that simply occur because someone didn't bother testing it in a vertical bar aswell |
| 19:06.49 | aditya | sredna2: cannot find it :( |
| 19:06.52 | Yarcanox | it makes it impossible to me to switch to any of the grouped windows |
| 19:07.01 | Yarcanox | that makes that "feature" pretty useless |
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| 19:07.06 | Yarcanox | does nothing else except breaking my task bar |
| 19:07.20 | sredna2 | aditya: rightclick just next to the window buttons |
| 19:07.52 | aditya | goes to panel settings :( |
| 19:08.06 | aditya | task manager settings? |
| 19:08.10 | sredna2 | aditya: as for how minimized windows are marked, I would say that is up to the thene |
| 19:08.22 | sredna2 | yes, probably task manager settings |
| 19:08.39 | aditya | wow, thanks |
| 19:08.42 | sredna2 | is in translated KDE (danish) |
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| 19:09.49 | aditya | sredna2: do you know the answer to second question? |
| 19:10.03 | sredna2 | aditya: as for how minimized windows are marked, I would say that is up to the theme |
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| 19:10.40 | aditya | hmm... |
| 19:10.53 | sredna2 | in my theme (air) there is a clear difference in the button border |
| 19:11.14 | aditya | I am using default arch KDE theme... maybe oxygen |
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| 19:11.30 | aditya | yep... oxygen |
| 19:11.34 | sredna2 | probably oxygen, arch does not change package defaults |
| 19:11.42 | sredna2 | is using arch too |
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| 19:16.47 | siliconchaos | hello |
| 19:16.50 | aditya | another thing, I am unable to maximize some applications, they always end up with some space free |
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| 19:17.03 | aditya | they momentarily mazimize and then come back |
| 19:17.05 | siliconchaos | I'm trying to install KDE4 NetworkManager plasmoid and most of the articles I've found point to svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/networkmanager which does not exist anymor |
| 19:17.22 | pinotree | trunk/kdereview/networkmanager |
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| 19:21.12 | siliconchaos | pinotree: thanks |
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| 19:28.45 | despiero | hi all |
| 19:29.11 | despiero | update my sabayon to 4.4.1 and gain problem with sound |
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| 19:30.25 | despiero | i kill PA. use Alsa |
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| 19:31.02 | despiero | but mixer shows a little of channels. try to configure in alsamixer. |
| 19:31.06 | despiero | gain that - http://pastebin.com/A7jYTr06 |
| 19:31.17 | aditya | one final question, how to disable the tooltips on panel? |
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| 19:32.35 | sredna | aditya: for the taskbar, the same settings dialog as before ;) |
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| 19:33.43 | sredna | i do not think other panel tooltips can be disabled |
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| 19:34.02 | luke1704 | hello, I am wondering if KDE 3.5 allows to rearrange all windows e.g. equally on the screen by pressing a short-cut |
| 19:34.03 | LukasLT | Hi :) |
| 19:34.41 | luke1704 | Does anybody have an idea? |
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| 19:36.50 | aditya | sredna: not working |
| 19:37.12 | aditya | yeah.. panel tooltips. THey are very annoying :( |
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| 19:38.11 | aditya | anyway.. need to sleep... night |
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| 19:38.23 | LukasLT | Chould someone pont me how to create virtual folders based on nepomuk search? :) |
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| 19:40.58 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: type nepomuksearch:/keyword in dolphin |
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| 19:41.46 | NfNitLoop | For some reason, I can't copy things out of Konsole. |
| 19:41.52 | NfNitLoop | I select them. |
| 19:41.55 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: perhaps this works also for folder view widgets |
| 19:41.59 | NfNitLoop | I middle-click in another window. Nothing. |
| 19:42.11 | NfNitLoop | I try selecting them, then choosing Edit -> Copy. Nothing. |
| 19:42.28 | NfNitLoop | It's like Copy is just broken in Konsole. Any ideas? I've googled. |
| 19:42.37 | NfNitLoop | all I've found is X n00bs who don't know how to copy/paste in X. :p |
| 19:42.59 | NfNitLoop | (Copying seems to be working fine in other applications.) |
| 19:43.23 | LukasLT | Chartman123: yes i know this, but I want to have a buch of predefined searches to use later, like largest downoalds, last documents etc virtual folders |
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| 19:44.18 | sebersole | is there a reason dolphin does not honor the browser set up in system settings? |
| 19:44.31 | sebersole | for me it always just launches konqueror |
| 19:44.57 | sebersole | (i understand dolphin has its own setting too) |
| 19:45.01 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: you could prepare those searches and store them to your places or as favorites |
| 19:46.19 | LukasLT | Chartman123: how to use favorites in dolphin? :) (my places is already almost fully used) |
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| 19:47.16 | sebersole | hmm, actually its the associations that are messed up |
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| 19:47.39 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: i don't know exactly but i think dolphin doesn't support favorites right now, but konqueror should and it uses the same base for showing local files |
| 19:48.07 | rindolf | Hi all. Does anyone also have problems invoking the "K"/Start/etc-menu using Alt+F1? I'm on Mandriva Cooker using kde-4.4.0 and qt-4.6.1 and it's been like that for a while. Alt+F2 works fine. I tried setting a shortcut but it told me it was already taken. |
| 19:48.35 | LukasLT | sebersole: you can change priorities in dolphin, just right click file you want to open > then preferences (or properties) > Click icon in the Type row and adjust order |
| 19:48.47 | annma | rindolf: works OK here |
| 19:48.55 | sebersole | so even though i set System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser to firefox the associatiosn for html still point to konqueror |
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| 19:49.18 | annma | rindolf: look in SystemSettings shortcuts |
| 19:49.30 | sebersole | LukasLT: sure just not getting point of "System Settings > Default Applications > Web Browser" then |
| 19:49.58 | sebersole | it says ".. all KDE applications will honor this setting..." but that obviously not true |
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| 19:51.04 | annma | rindolf: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts |
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| 19:51.38 | annma | rindolf: then in KDE Component dropdown box choose "Plasma Workspace" |
| 19:52.07 | annma | Activate Application Launcher Widget and yo uhave the shortcut here |
| 19:52.20 | rindolf | annma: it's there. |
| 19:52.23 | annma | should be default Alt-F1 |
| 19:52.30 | rindolf | annma: but it still doesn't work. |
| 19:52.33 | rindolf | annma: and it's enabled. |
| 19:52.43 | annma | should also be in right click on K icon |
| 19:52.46 | LukasLT | sebersole: I guess Dolphin does not differ web pages from any files like documents or music, and uses its own priority list |
| 19:52.52 | annma | in Settings |
| 19:53.02 | annma | if not you have a conflict somehow |
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| 19:53.46 | LukasLT | sebersole: might be there should be a wraper app, so you/distribution could use it to redirect web pages to default browser |
| 19:54.26 | sebersole | dunno, was just surprised |
| 19:54.51 | LukasLT | sebersole: its just my guess, anyway :) |
| 19:54.52 | rindolf | annma: F1 works. |
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| 19:55.21 | LukasLT | Chartman123: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=66660 does 60% want i want, just how to get them opened not in the new window... :D |
| 19:55.27 | sebersole | well that option takes you to KEditFileType, which i thought was global |
| 19:55.56 | annma | rindolf: you wrote "I tried setting a shortcut but it told me it was already taken." |
| 19:56.11 | annma | when you set F1 for it, what does Alt-F1 do? |
| 19:56.13 | rindolf | annma: yes, to the launcher. |
| 19:56.19 | rindolf | annma: set F1? |
| 19:56.29 | annma | <rindolf> annma: F1 works. |
| 19:56.33 | rindolf | annma: I meant that F1 works in other applications. |
| 19:56.37 | annma | what does Alt-F1 do then |
| 19:56.41 | annma | ah |
| 19:56.47 | annma | not relevant |
| 19:57.19 | annma | what shortcut is in launcher settings then |
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| 20:02.04 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: sorry, i don't know if this is possible. but perhaps you can tell dolphin to open a specific path and add a parameter to open it in an existing window... i'll have a look |
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| 20:09.56 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: no, havent found yet a possibility to tell dolphin to use an existing window |
| 20:10.02 | sebersole | how do i found what a particular key binding is? |
| 20:10.22 | sebersole | ctrl+alt+R is a normal binding in an app that i use |
| 20:10.40 | sebersole | but its not working since installing kde |
| 20:11.00 | sebersole | so i assume kde is already using that binding for something |
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| 20:12.00 | sebersole | i found it in google that its an app called klipper |
| 20:12.03 | LukasLT | Chartman123: Then one more thing to add to bugs wishlist :) |
| 20:12.29 | sebersole | but i mean in general if this were to come up again is there a way to find what app is using that binding? |
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| 20:14.05 | Torch | sebersole: systemsettings -> keyboard and mouse -> global shortcuts |
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| 20:14.29 | Chartman123 | LukasLT: yes, why not :) i mean, e.g. for kate it is already possible to use -u parameter to open textfiles in an existing window |
| 20:14.36 | sebersole | Torch: i looked there but did not see a way to search for that binding |
| 20:14.51 | Torch | sebersole: you'll have to look through it youself, probably |
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| 20:18.13 | PasNox | system activities does not longer show process cpu eating in kde 4.4.1 |
| 20:18.39 | PasNox | and it does even no refresh correctly, if i start new app, it's not listed until i close / reopen the dialog |
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| 20:18.47 | PasNox | is it some know problems ? |
| 20:19.18 | haku | do you mean, there is no activity in the process-viewer ? |
| 20:19.38 | LukasLT | Chartman123: I just found, that in " remote:/ " a desktop files are opened in the same window |
| 20:19.56 | PasNox | process views list application |
| 20:20.05 | PasNox | but once it's visible it does not update |
| 20:20.07 | haku | @ PasNox, to you mean this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229320 |
| 20:20.10 | PasNox | no cpu % shown |
| 20:20.19 | PasNox | and process list stay same until i close / reopen it |
| 20:20.36 | haku | yes, i reported the bug yesterday, please vote for the bug, if you like |
| 20:20.55 | Torch | no need to vote for that. |
| 20:21.01 | Torch | it will certainly be fixed asap. |
| 20:21.50 | PasNox | haku: yes it's exactly that, if i press control + escape - no cpu seen |
| 20:21.56 | PasNox | if i start ksysguard it works ! |
| 20:21.59 | PasNox | i 'm voting ;) |
| 20:22.04 | PasNox | oki |
| 20:22.35 | PasNox | btw i have very strange comportment since kde 4.4 |
| 20:22.47 | PasNox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:23.03 | PasNox | now my system is always slow ( no it's not virtuoso / nopouk - i disable all ) |
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| 20:23.28 | PasNox | it's strange because the process viewer does not say application eat cpu |
| 20:23.33 | PasNox | kwin is very slow |
| 20:23.43 | PasNox | and more when i'm using QMdiArea |
| 20:23.59 | PasNox | non full screen window are very badly handled |
| 20:24.10 | PasNox | it seem it's oxygen them, but i'm not sure |
| 20:24.14 | PasNox | any hints on that ? |
| 20:24.40 | haku | hm, no, but there is a way to increase performance on Plasma |
| 20:25.12 | PasNox | hering |
| 20:25.19 | PasNox | hearing* |
| 20:26.12 | PasNox | trust me or not, to avoid ( for a limited of time ) the performance problem, i have to switch desktop ( using ctrl + alt + 9 ), then back to my desktop |
| 20:26.18 | PasNox | very strange problem :/ |
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| 20:26.28 | PasNox | haku: listening u |
| 20:27.34 | haku | @PasNox: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqSsgTNRA3U&feature=related |
| 20:27.42 | PasNox | thanks |
| 20:28.00 | haku | the video is called: Dramatically speed up KDE Plasma |
| 20:28.35 | PasNox | yep watching, thanks |
| 20:29.01 | haku | i notice smooth minimize animation in kwin, but maximize animation is really slow and ugly |
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| 20:31.17 | haku | @PasNox: for making the change permanent, you have to edit the plasma-desktop setting |
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| 20:33.03 | PasNox | haku: where ? |
| 20:34.03 | haku | @PasNox: for permanent change edit file: /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop change this line: Exec=plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster |
| 20:34.20 | PasNox | thanks |
| 20:34.23 | haku | just add: -graphicssystem raster |
| 20:34.39 | haku | but after any update, it might be gone |
| 20:35.08 | PasNox | ok |
| 20:35.14 | PasNox | not a problem, i will remember :D |
| 20:35.16 | PasNox | thanks |
| 20:35.16 | haku | maybe this doesn't fix your problem, but plasma should be faster, i think |
| 20:35.17 | PasNox | let test |
| 20:35.22 | haku | yes:) |
| 20:35.38 | PasNox | btw i'm asking myself if it's really plasm problem |
| 20:35.42 | PasNox | plasm is down now |
| 20:35.47 | PasNox | and app resizing etc |
| 20:35.51 | PasNox | is still very very slow |
| 20:35.59 | PasNox | when i maximize / show normal an app |
| 20:36.09 | PasNox | it tak nearly 1 second tu refresh the application |
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| 20:36.36 | haku | maybe your opengl setting in kwin is set to sync vertical |
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| 20:36.45 | PasNox | yes it may |
| 20:36.57 | PasNox | but it's like that since long time ( kde 4.3 ) and never had problems :/ |
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| 20:38.05 | haku | hm, you might still controll the processlist with top or ksysguard, is there any performance eating job? |
| 20:38.21 | PasNox | no, no process is eating cpu |
| 20:38.27 | PasNox | it's why i found strange this problem |
| 20:38.32 | PasNox | no big cpu eat |
| 20:38.36 | PasNox | and poor performance |
| 20:38.51 | PasNox | i have a quad core cpu + 4 go ram + geforce 9600 |
| 20:38.53 | PasNox | 768mb |
| 20:39.01 | haku | oh, wow |
| 20:39.24 | PasNox | each time i upgrade kubuntu performance decrese |
| 20:39.25 | haku | here, amd 64XP, 3000, 2GB |
| 20:39.29 | PasNox | i'm tired of kubuntu / kde |
| 20:39.57 | PasNox | dunno which one is responsible but i really want to drop all that and goes for something over |
| 20:40.20 | PasNox | we are at kde 4.4 and still not have something working STABLE |
| 20:40.22 | haku | well, i think, kde 4.4.1 is not the stable release, it is in factory repository, |
| 20:40.24 | PasNox | i can't understand :'( |
| 20:40.49 | SinnerP | what is the name of the kicker in KDE 4.4 ? |
| 20:40.55 | PasNox | kickoff |
| 20:40.56 | PasNox | ? |
| 20:41.03 | SinnerP | the botom bar |
| 20:41.21 | SinnerP | with the log out/lock session, icons, etc |
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| 20:41.29 | PasNox | kickoff |
| 20:41.43 | hacosta | i'm getting an error message when i try to open systemsettings: |
| 20:41.59 | hacosta | System Settings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display |
| 20:42.03 | hacosta | (kde 4.4.1) |
| 20:42.06 | PasNox | haku: ok i'm in gl settings of desktop effects, what do u think are the best settings ? |
| 20:42.06 | SinnerP | PasNox: I don't have kickoff application |
| 20:42.20 | PasNox | it's a plasmoid |
| 20:42.32 | haku | @PasNox: it is not a nice trick, but it might help to rename your .kde4 directory and start kde with default settings |
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| 20:42.41 | hacosta | konsole output is:[0]hacosta@alcachofa ~/.kde4/share/config % systemsettings |
| 20:42.43 | hacosta | systemsettings(16650)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-hacosta/ksycoca4" |
| 20:42.45 | hacosta | systemsettings(16650)/kdecore (trader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: KServiceTypeTrader: serviceType "SystemSettingsCategory" not found |
| 20:42.53 | hacosta | and about 4 more lines. |
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| 20:43.06 | SinnerP | ok, I found it. |
| 20:43.12 | PasNox | haku: i already try too, it works fine for some minutes then it become slow - exactly like currently, i created a special user for this kind of test |
| 20:43.13 | SinnerP | I needed to launch "plasma-desktop" |
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| 20:43.43 | haku | @PasNox, log time, i had got a problem with Xorg on my Notebook, exactly after 5 mins the Xorg process got very high CPU-% |
| 20:44.20 | PasNox | haku: i got this bug too, very long time away, xorg was leaking and reduce performance, it seem it s not a xorg problem just now |
| 20:44.27 | haku | even when i turned of screensaver,... i couldn't figure it out completely, but i might belong to some unstable plasmoids. |
| 20:44.55 | PasNox | xorg eat 137mb of memory - normal cpu % |
| 20:44.58 | PasNox | is it bad ? |
| 20:45.23 | haku | yes, so i renamed the config directory in .kde4, and also tried with a new user, and the CPU-leaking was gone |
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| 20:45.44 | haku | here 122 |
| 20:45.57 | PasNox | i have many apps open so i think 137 is not so much ? |
| 20:46.10 | haku | yes, not so much i think |
| 20:46.23 | spectral | i am a bit baffled.. lately i've noticed that kwin and krunner etc are allocating huge sums of virtual memory (in the VIRT column of top).. 857MB for krunner seems a bit.. over the top |
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| 20:47.06 | PasNox | haku: can u tell me how to set best settings for kwin effects ? |
| 20:47.10 | PasNox | using opengl properties |
| 20:47.11 | spectral | kwin has allocated 585mb virtual memory.. |
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| 20:47.39 | haku | kwin, here it's 35MB |
| 20:48.07 | PasNox | same for me - 36mb for kwin |
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| 20:48.41 | haku | hm, i have got a 7600GT, but i think, kwin is a bit slow for that. maybe compiz /beryl is faster |
| 20:49.35 | spectral | i dunno if it's something related to kdemod.. seems like it |
| 20:49.55 | haku | i also added a screenshot about the strange behavior of process-viewer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=229320 |
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| 21:00.09 | junkDawgie | haku: i have noticed the same thing... have no clue as to why, but it's not just you |
| 21:00.20 | junkDawgie | it's just broken |
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| 21:00.48 | junkDawgie | it's odd that ksysguard works correctly |
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| 21:07.54 | ppman | so, konsole segfaults when hitting ctrl-shift-? |
| 21:08.00 | ppman | don't ask why I was trying it. |
| 21:08.04 | ppman | kde 4.4.0, gentoo |
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| 21:08.53 | Ender2070_ | gentoo? |
| 21:08.58 | Ender2070_ | --funroll-loops |
| 21:09.24 | ppman | Ender2070_: clean cflags ;) |
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| 21:10.52 | |newbie| | Hi, I have a HP dv9850 laptop running Ubuntu 9.10, I've always used gnome but have just started using the latest KDE. In gnome I could use the touch controls on my laptop to control the volume, play, pause, open media programs,etc. When I used the volume control a slider type indicator would appear at the top of the screen and change the volume. It all worked without me having to do anything to co |
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| 21:11.19 | |newbie| | to configure it. These controls dont seem to do anything in kde. How would I make them function? Thanks |
| 21:11.22 | Torch | |newbie|: you should also use konversation, obviously. ;-) |
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| 21:12.34 | |newbie| | also, II can't seem to find any sort of volume control at all in kde |
| 21:12.38 | cb400f | |newbie|: do you run kmix? .. some of the rest you can configure in systemsettings -> input actions |
| 21:12.58 | |newbie| | kmix? I don't know |
| 21:12.58 | cb400f | the audio related ones should work.. the rest might need manual assignment |
| 21:13.08 | cb400f | the mixer in the systray |
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| 21:13.41 | |newbie| | there's no mixer in the system tray, I've looked around but can't even find any sort of volume control |
| 21:13.44 | sredna2 | if kmix isn't running nothing is listening to the keys. they usually works |
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| 21:14.04 | sredna2 | try typing ALT + F2 and then "kmix" |
| 21:14.05 | cb400f | |newbie|: what broken installation is this? .. anyway.. alt+f2 -> kmix |
| 21:14.26 | |newbie| | ok thanks |
| 21:15.05 | |newbie| | I'm in gnome at the moment, but I just ran apt-get install kmix, expecting it to say its allready there, but it seems to be downloading and installing it |
| 21:15.19 | cb400f | hrmpf |
| 21:15.28 | NSaibot | hehe |
| 21:16.06 | NSaibot | tries to hold the crowd back |
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| 21:16.35 | leg- | I want to completely remove kde so I ran apt-get remove kdm kde-core (which I installed) but after a reboot kdm still pops up and loads kde... |
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| 21:16.56 | NSaibot | leg-: which distro? |
| 21:17.02 | NSaibot | debian? |
| 21:17.05 | leg- | NSaibot: debian lenny indeed |
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| 21:17.40 | NSaibot | either ask on #debian or wait until some debian guy answers ;) |
| 21:17.41 | Torch | leg-: ask on a debian channel then |
| 21:17.47 | Torch | leg-: this is off topic here |
| 21:17.54 | leg- | ok |
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| 21:18.14 | NSaibot | leg-: package management isn't kde related you know ;) |
| 21:18.18 | |newbie| | when I first installed kde, I installed, I think "kde" using apt-get, but when i used it there was no window manager. so I went to synaptic package manager and there were tons of things that seemd important that I had to manually tick. Why would it off installed only parts of kde? It's possible there's still bits missing, how would I (possibly remove it) and make sure it installs everything? |
| 21:18.42 | cb400f | ask kubuntu |
| 21:18.53 | cb400f | I think the proper meta package is 'kubuntu-desktop' |
| 21:18.56 | Torch | reminds people to have a look at the topic. |
| 21:19.57 | NSaibot | anyway, does a qdbus org.kde.krunner /App query 'foo' work for someone. by work i mean a krunner popping up with foo as query |
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| 21:20.17 | NSaibot | s/./? |
| 21:21.14 | Torch | NSaibot: not for me. |
| 21:21.23 | Torch | NSaibot: 4.4.1 |
| 21:21.26 | NSaibot | empty krunner? |
| 21:21.29 | NSaibot | yea 4.4.1 |
| 21:21.29 | |newbie| | ok, sonce I installed kde in various parts raher than with the meta package, how would I make sure I removed everything, before I install the meta package, or it is necsarry to remove evrything? |
| 21:21.31 | Torch | NSaibot: yep |
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| 21:21.41 | Torch | |newbie|: don't ask here. |
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| 21:21.42 | Torch | |newbie|: really. |
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| 21:22.02 | |newbie| | ok... isn't this the "kde" channel? |
| 21:22.09 | NSaibot | |newbie|: you will be better off asking this question on your distribution channel |
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| 21:22.18 | |newbie| | ok, thankyou |
| 21:22.22 | sredna2 | NSaibot: works for me |
| 21:22.25 | NSaibot | |newbie|: package management isn't kde related |
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| 21:22.39 | sredna2 | 4.4.1 |
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| 21:22.57 | NSaibot | sredna2: krunner with 'foo' being the query? |
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| 21:23.05 | sredna2 | NSaibot: yes |
| 21:23.08 | NSaibot | o.O |
| 21:23.12 | NSaibot | hmmm |
| 21:23.30 | sredna2 | had two entries, one being a link to "how to shoot yourself in the foot" :o |
| 21:23.49 | NSaibot | :) |
| 21:24.13 | NSaibot | well, filed a bugreport anyway |
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| 21:34.57 | spectral | removed kdemod and installed the vanilla arch packages.. still 900MB+ virtual memory allocated for krunner.. wtf |
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| 21:36.10 | tyr12 | all right, banging my head here. how do i set a plasmoid to show on different virtual desktops in kde 4.4? |
| 21:36.22 | tyr12 | google is of no use, just tons of people asking how to have multiple wallpapers. |
| 21:36.42 | tyr12 | don't see a (system-resource) point in running multiple copies of say, rssnews or weather. |
| 21:37.45 | tyr12 | distro is sabayon, fwiw. 9: |
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| 21:38.07 | jotik^^ | Please help! KDE 4.4.1. I changed my desktop to some kind of search interface, but I can't find a way to change it back to folder view. |
| 21:38.21 | cb400f | right click pager in panel -> configure virtual desktops -> different activities on each desktop |
| 21:38.29 | tyr12 | jotik^^: the walnut should be in the lower left. use that to change your activity. |
| 21:39.13 | tyr12 | cb400f: activity yes. i have different activities on each desktop at the present time. does that mean i will not be able to share plasmoids between them? |
| 21:39.38 | cb400f | yes |
| 21:39.43 | tyr12 | fair enough. |
| 21:40.07 | cb400f | .. but you can add the same widget to different desktops if you want |
| 21:40.58 | tyr12 | yea, just figure thats a bit resource intensive. |
| 21:41.12 | jotik^^ | tyr12: somewhere behind the panel? |
| 21:42.02 | tyr12 | jotik^^: dunno, never had a panel on the search activity before. |
| 21:42.30 | tyr12 | jotik^^: only search activity i've tested since 4.3 has been on a second montior that had no panel 9: |
| 21:42.58 | jotik^^ | is "the walnut" this thing thats usually in the top-right corner? |
| 21:43.24 | jotik^^ | no walnut anywhere but on the panel. :( |
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| 21:44.04 | CoCO_Kid594 | it's device python setp tools keeps dieing with illegal instllation into /usr/local why? |
| 21:44.12 | CoCO_Kid594 | no |
| 21:44.20 | jotik^^ | tyr12: and theres no popup menu either :( |
| 21:44.28 | CoCO_Kid594 | not yet |
| 21:44.43 | CoCO_Kid594 | trying to merge kde4.. and i get the above msg |
| 21:44.57 | tyr12 | jotik^^: yes, the walnut is normally in the top right. you may also find it via choosing 'zoom out' from any menu you see it on. just learned about zooming out recently, though |
| 21:44.59 | jotik^^ | tyr12: neither can I find that desktop configuration dialog in system settings. |
| 21:45.29 | jotik^^ | tyr12: huh? what menus are there? |
| 21:45.31 | CoCO_Kid594 | what would cause that error? |
| 21:45.32 | tyr12 | jotik^^: maybe change the size of the panel and see if its hiding the search walnut? |
| 21:46.06 | jotik^^ | tyr12: auto hiding the panel - still no walnut |
| 21:46.16 | tyr12 | jotik^^: in the walnut menu there is a Zoom Out option. for all i know you may see it on one of your attempts to look, so i wanted to tell you. |
| 21:46.33 | tyr12 | jotik^^: mind you, i arrived shortly before you to ask my own question, so there may be an easier answer (; |
| 21:46.45 | jotik^^ | no walnut |
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| 21:46.58 | jotik^^ | logging out didn't help either |
| 21:47.10 | jotik^^ | still no walnut after logging in |
| 21:47.25 | jotik^^ | Who took my walnut? :S |
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| 21:48.28 | jotik^^ | Which configuration file do I have to edit to get my desktop folder view back? |
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| 21:50.47 | jotik^^ | and now there's no system settings in the applauncher menu. |
| 21:52.59 | jotik^^ | today is KDE disaster day for me |
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| 21:53.29 | jotik^^ | last one was when I first tried 4.0 |
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| 22:14.47 | LukasLT | Where is default layout saved, if i have set up to use invidual settings for each folder in dolphin? |
| 22:15.41 | LukasLT | It started to set all new folders having grouped by name, that is the last thing i want to have :( |
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| 22:18.21 | djustice | LukasLT: huh? dolphin's settings? or the folders .directory desktop file? |
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| 22:25.33 | LukasLT | djustice: if there is no .directory file (e.g new folder) Dolphin uses Group by name as default |
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| 22:25.58 | LukasLT | I guess these settings is somewhere stored, but where? |
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| 22:36.51 | scorpius_ | trying to use kcron, but it does not execute one of the commands in the shell scrip that I call with kcron. running the shell script from commandline works. . any help greatly appreciated (kde 3.5.10) |
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| 22:44.46 | scorpius_ | trying to use kcron, but it does not execute one of the commands in the shell scrip that I call with kcron. running the shell script from commandline works. . any help greatly appreciated (kde 3.5.10) |
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| 22:45.57 | Jetchisel | heh 3.5 is RIP imo. |
| 22:46.40 | viric | Anyone using 4.3.5? |
| 22:46.54 | oneforall | well not really since there are still things in it people want ;) |
| 22:47.05 | viric | 'kompare' in kdesdk crashes immediatly here |
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| 22:47.45 | Young_Luck | Hi! I just installed some new themes in "System Settings -> General -> Appearance -> Style -> Workspace", now I want to remove them. How can I do this? |
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| 22:57.24 | KWhat_Work | is there a way to set a default screen to load apps on ? |
| 22:57.44 | djustice | Young_Luck: iirc, you can just remove the relavant folder inside .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/(theme_name) and kbuildsycoca4... idk tho... |
| 22:58.31 | djustice | KWhat_Work: yep, right click a window's titlebar and choose 'special application/window settings' from the advanced menu.. |
| 22:58.39 | djustice | KWhat_Work: i guess that's what you mean anywayz... |
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| 22:59.59 | KWhat_Work | djustice: like i would like all the apps to display on screen:0 when started instead of picking randomly between screen:0 to N |
| 23:00.48 | Young_Luck | djustice: Hm... Thanks. Is there any graphical way of doing this? |
| 23:01.37 | djustice | KWhat_Work: ahh, idk. i only have a netbook. ;p but i do map amarok to desktop 2 tho.. |
| 23:01.54 | djustice | Young_Luck: dolphin -> alt+. -> '.kde', etc ;p |
| 23:02.26 | djustice | Young_Luck: but no, i dont think there is a systemsettings way to do it yet.. |
| 23:02.27 | boombatower | is it known that the oxygen plasma theme renders incorrectly when a panel is placed on top of screen (or at least for me) http://imagebin.ca/view/K7Pvsn.html |
| 23:04.39 | Young_Luck | djustice: Hehe. Ok. Thank you. I hope the developers add this feature in the next releases. |
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| 23:08.48 | mschuler | djustice: What about this http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kcontrol/desktopthemedetails/index.html ? |
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| 23:14.07 | Young_Luck | djustice: What about this http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kcontrol/desktopthemedetails/index.html ? |
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| 23:17.27 | Young_Luck | djustice: Why my Theme Settings are different from these? |
| 23:20.02 | djustice | Young_Luck: that's kde 4.4. i think. maybe trunk? your running 4.3? |
| 23:20.09 | djustice | ;p |
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| 23:40.28 | azlev | Hi all. Do I need change any configuration to authenticate on a smb:// share with ntlmv2? |
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| 23:56.36 | tek0 | since 4.4, output in .xsession-errors et al is awfully verbose, is this mandatory? |
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