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| 00:06.52 | Ze_M | pinotree: damn, isnt possible build kdeplasma-addons from branch: kdeplasma-addons/applets/notes/notes.cpp:807: error: âclass Plasma::ToolButtonâ has no member named âsetDownâ |
| 00:07.11 | pinotree | which kdelibs do you have? |
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| 00:08.22 | Ze_M | from branch, build today revision 1104237 |
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| 00:09.24 | Him | Does anyone know how to set Kopete so that it doesn't use KWallet? |
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| 00:11.31 | Him | Or is that possible? |
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| 00:15.57 | Him | And I'm using 4.3.5 |
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| 00:18.06 | Him | Guess not. |
| 00:18.14 | Him | Oh well. I'm off then. I'll just use Pidgin. |
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| 00:30.25 | diegoviola | hi |
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| 00:31.05 | diegoviola | is there a default keyboard shortcut to change from virtual desktop? |
| 00:31.14 | diegoviola | in kde4 |
| 00:31.41 | IanN | anyone good on svn and why i cannot get it working since the hostkey change? |
| 00:31.47 | IanN | especially kdesvn |
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| 00:39.03 | IanN | grrr, i aint changed anything and it's suddenly started working! |
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| 00:54.45 | FoxBlitzz | diegoviola: You can adjust keyboard shortcuts in the Global Keyboard Shortcuts configuration |
| 00:55.14 | FoxBlitzz | diegoviola: Press Alt + F2, then type until Global Keyboard Shortcuts comes up first in the list, then press Enter |
| 00:57.24 | diegoviola | cool, thanks |
| 00:58.03 | diegoviola | kde rocks |
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| 01:13.18 | kwtm | Anyone ever get a program showing up as an icon in the Kicker panel ("systray") that you can't get rid of? How do you get rid of it? |
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| 01:30.48 | Katy87 | http://www.newsexyemilie.com/?521145 |
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| 02:29.24 | muh2000 | how can i deactivate kde sounds? |
| 02:30.00 | FoxBlitzz | muh2000: Alt + F2, type Notifications, hit Enter |
| 02:30.22 | FoxBlitzz | You can deactivate sounds for individual notifications or suppress audio output entirely |
| 02:31.07 | muh2000 | thnx |
| 02:35.10 | muh2000 | is it possible to assign the windows key for the k-menu? |
| 02:35.38 | muh2000 | i only manage to have windows key+another key to open kmenu... :/ |
| 02:36.56 | lmurray | GNU\colossus: snuggl: After talking with the Mesa devs the KWin problem with 7.8 is a Mesa regression. |
| 02:37.19 | lmurray | krh is working on a fix. |
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| 02:47.50 | mountainjew | Can anybody tell me why Ksysguard keeps randomly doing this? http://i.imgur.com/ceE4x.jpg |
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| 03:06.23 | mountainjew | Kardos: Go into System settings > Desktop > Screen Edges, the 2 check boxes are what you're after... |
| 03:07.17 | Kardos | that's exactly what i was looking for ... thanks! |
| 03:08.26 | mountainjew | Kardos: Np |
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| 04:08.43 | deusr | hi |
| 04:09.02 | deusr | someone in the channel? |
| 04:09.29 | FoxBlitzz | deusr: Don't ask to ask, just say the question |
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| 07:16.17 | lmurray | Yagami: Do you think you can try latest Mesa master with KWin? |
| 07:16.42 | lmurray | Yagami: KWin not working in 4.8 was a known regression and a patch was applied to Mesa a few hours ago |
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| 07:26.30 | elcuco | hi all, i am trying to rip a cd, cddb is sending me the id3 tags in a wrong encoding. how to change this? this affects not only kscd, but also kaudiocreator |
| 07:28.22 | elcuco | -> edit album, change encoding. |
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| 07:30.52 | tsdh | Hi. Suddenly, KDE 4.4.1 disables compositing and the file indebing due to low system resources, but they are not low and the system's just idling. Any hints what could be the culprit? |
| 07:33.38 | zeke | tsdh: check ksysguard |
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| 07:36.42 | tsdh | zeke: It says the system is about 3% busy. |
| 07:37.03 | zeke | what happens when you reenable compositing? |
| 07:37.39 | tsdh | When I re-enable compositing in systemsettings, I immediately get a notification that another application disabled it, and I can re-enable it with some shortcut. But that doesn't work... |
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| 07:40.23 | zeke | tsdh: strange |
| 07:41.29 | zeke | check your drivers? |
| 07:41.33 | zeke | brb need smoke |
| 07:42.41 | tsdh | Maybe. I'll debug that later... |
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| 07:48.16 | d34df00d | Hi! |
| 07:48.22 | zeke | hallo |
| 07:48.44 | d34df00d | I develop an opensource project in C++/Qt and I'd like to make it scriptable with, say, Python and JS. |
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| 07:48.55 | d34df00d | Since JS is quite easy with QtScript, Python is the only problem. |
| 07:49.04 | d34df00d | So I found the Kross project which is a part of KDE. |
| 07:49.51 | d34df00d | Since my app doesn't depend on KDE, the question (maybe not so polite, sorry me in this case :)) is: is it possible to remove KDE dependencies from Kross? |
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| 07:51.59 | zeke | d34df00d: i'm heard rumours that Kross might get ported to Qt but i haven't heard anything on it anymore |
| 07:52.00 | syli725 | Hi, I am trying the bespin style. When I use the tool bespin to configure the style, I found out it will automatically change my color theme. is this the expected behavior? |
| 07:52.22 | zeke | syli725: idk, i don't use bespin anymore |
| 07:53.45 | d34df00d | zeke: could you please point me to these rumors? It's hard to google for "porting Kross to Qt" :) |
| 07:54.18 | syli725 | zeke, Does "idk" stand for "i don't know"? |
| 07:55.06 | zeke | d34df00d: also you could ask in #kde-bindings |
| 07:55.12 | zeke | syli725: yes |
| 07:55.37 | d34df00d | zeke: oh, thanks a lot, I didn't know that channel exists. |
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| 07:56.35 | syli725 | zeke, why don't you use bespin anymore? is that bad or unstable? I am trying to find out a cool style similar to mac. can you suggest one? I can only find bespin suits my need. thanks. |
| 07:56.39 | zeke | d34df00d: np mate |
| 07:56.50 | zeke | syli725: because it's buggy, poorly written |
| 07:58.43 | syli725 | zeke, buggy and poorly written are bad. but any good one you can suggest? I don't find any from kde-look. I like mac-style, but doesn't have to be. as long as it's cool. cool scrollbar, button etc...thanks. |
| 07:59.08 | zeke | syli725: I use the default |
| 07:59.10 | zeke | xD |
| 08:00.03 | buckethead | So i'm trying to go straight no sys-tray.. Anybody got a suggestion for a good wifi plasmoid? |
| 08:00.03 | zeke | syli725: you could always make it KDE4 ;P |
| 08:00.28 | zeke | I mean d34df00d |
| 08:00.30 | zeke | xD |
| 08:01.08 | syli725 | zeke, I forgot what the default one is. oxygen ? I think the button and scrollbar is not very cool. how to make it? is that hard to do? where to start? sorry about too many ques. thanks. |
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| 08:01.56 | d34df00d | zeke: yeah, since it would be only a plugin. That provides other plugins, hehe. I think I would if there is no way to Qtify Kross cause there is no real alternative :) |
| 08:02.15 | zeke | d34df00d: i think there is but it might be a ton of work |
| 08:02.30 | zeke | could always try ;) |
| 08:03.03 | zeke | syli725: yes it's oxygen, just look to the side and there is a configure button |
| 08:03.46 | d34df00d | It's still better than rewriting the other Python scripting stuff (PythonQt) or writing from scratch. |
| 08:04.50 | zeke | yeah it'd be nice if Kross was for Qt only |
| 08:04.52 | zeke | too |
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| 08:05.54 | syli725 | zeke, thanks. I'll have a look. |
| 08:05.58 | zeke | np |
| 08:10.25 | d34df00d | Hmm, the site http://kross.dipe.org/ seems to be dead a bit. |
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| 08:10.50 | d34df00d | Though "While the interpreter-backends don't depend on KDE cause they use Qt4-functionality only, the core does not got fully ported to Qt4-only yet but there are only 2-3 remaining issues." sounds inspiring. |
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| 08:14.51 | zeke | d34df00d: yeah the site updates seem dead |
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| 08:18.24 | GNU\colossus | lmurray: sorry to disturb you again, but has the discussion yesterday shed new light onto the opengl-compositing-not-available-with-mesa-7.8-on-intel-problem? I had to leave quickly yesterday, and my client hasn't kept logs for some reason⦠|
| 08:18.47 | syli725 | what is the best dock-like bar in kde4? I only knew avant-window-navigator, but is written in gtk. |
| 08:19.13 | lmurray | GNU\colossus: Cause was a Mesa regression and a patch has already been committed to Mesa master |
| 08:19.26 | lmurray | GNU\colossus: I'm looking for someone to test that commit |
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| 08:28.28 | GNU\colossus | lmurray: ah, great. so installing mesa git master should fix the problem, right? |
| 08:28.44 | lmurray | Hopefully |
| 08:29.14 | GNU\colossus | I'll give it a shot later today and report back to you, if you want |
| 08:29.22 | lmurray | Please |
| 08:29.27 | GNU\colossus | will do :) |
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| 08:48.52 | syli725 | any native kde4 dock similar to awn (avant-window-navigator) ? |
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| 09:01.57 | Kavington | syli725: maybe Daisy? http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy?content=102077 |
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| 09:02.30 | syli725 | Kavington, thanks. :) |
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| 09:04.17 | syli725 | Kavington, it looks very cool. I am comparing awn, cairo dock and daisy now. :) thanks. |
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| 09:06.40 | GNU\colossus | lmurray: with mesa-git, everything works as it should, apparently |
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| 09:06.59 | lmurray | "Apparently"? |
| 09:10.14 | GNU\colossus | lmurray: well, the opengl compositing is back to normal, I'm just wary of what mesa 7.9-devel might break otherwise :) |
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| 10:06.14 | Yagami | lmurray: i thought so ( about mesa 7.8 , everything was black , but windows were there , made me remember the white screen of compiz ) |
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| 10:24.03 | damada | Hi, ever since I logged on today, Kontact is no longer responding after it loads the summary view. The individual components run OK (such as kmail, korganizer, etc.) |
| 10:24.28 | damada | I have killed it many times by now, logged off an on again, all to no success |
| 10:24.44 | damada | any idea how to track down the cause of this is deeply appreciated |
| 10:24.58 | cb400f | what did you upgrade yesterday? :-) |
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| 10:33.45 | damada | cb400f: nothing that I know of... |
| 10:35.28 | damada | It's weird, it is just stuck with the summary view, but when I start it from a konsole, I can see it loads everything nicely in the background, such as contacts and birthdays, and calendar entries... no apparent error. It is just the GUI which is stuck |
| 10:35.31 | cb400f | hm.. ok.. I guess akonadi would be the prime suspect for kdepim issues these days |
| 10:35.54 | damada | hmm, the individual components all run flawless |
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| 11:17.33 | MR2_GT | hassss anyone else noticed a performance drop since moving to KDE 4.4? |
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| 11:23.30 | rdale_ | define 'performance drop' |
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| 11:25.15 | cb400f | look if nepomuk/strigi are going crazy.. and perhaps look at systemsettings -> appearance -> style -> fine tuning if you have nvidia |
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| 11:27.58 | MR2_GT | just seems... "laggy".. with windows opening and closing... |
| 11:28.11 | MR2_GT | unsure.. need to do more testing |
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| 11:32.18 | MR2_GT | i was using ubuntu 9.1 which i'm sure was still on KDE 4.3..although i might be mistaken |
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| 11:34.04 | MR2_GT | thats weird...what exactly does "high display resolution and low cpu" mean? |
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| 12:18.25 | strohel | Hi! I'm student and I have a GSoC idea, where is the right place to discuss it? |
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| 12:20.20 | rdale_ | strohel: there is a #kde-soc channel |
| 12:20.34 | strohel | rdale_: Oh, thanks |
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| 12:29.37 | annew | annma: I can never find where to turn off panel tooltips - do you know? |
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| 12:33.47 | annma | the task manager tooltips? |
| 12:34.20 | annew | annma: yes |
| 12:34.28 | annma | in task manager settings |
| 12:34.52 | annew | huh! I forgot that there's a separate settings menu |
| 12:34.53 | annma | click on the panel cashew and then right click on task manager to get the settings |
| 12:34.53 | annew | thanks |
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| 12:36.17 | annew | no access from the cashew |
| 12:36.27 | annew | it's that difficult one when the taskbar is full |
| 12:36.52 | annew | and I can never remember the keyboard shortcut |
| 12:36.59 | annew | but I'll find it, thanks |
| 12:37.50 | annma | from the cashew then you can just right click on any task manager area |
| 12:37.59 | annma | and you get Task Manager Settings in the menu |
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| 12:39.05 | annew | Hmm - I never did it that way before - thanks for that |
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| 12:42.52 | annma | it's the easiest way to access the Task Manager Settings dialog |
| 12:43.13 | annew | it is indeed |
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| 14:19.03 | datacrusher | hello everyont, can anyone recommend a good tutorial about kde's kiosk tool? iv followed 3 walkthgough till now, none worked |
| 14:19.38 | annma | what KDE version |
| 14:19.49 | annma | and what do yo want to do |
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| 14:20.53 | annma | datacrusher: ^^ |
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| 14:21.24 | Tatsh | i'd like to bypass the KWallet prompt in KMail and some other apps |
| 14:21.27 | Tatsh | is there a way to do this? |
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| 14:22.08 | Tatsh | i'm sure there are many in my situation where we can be pretty sure no one else is going on our computers (mine is password protected every time i leave); and i don't like having to type my password again after logging in to read my email |
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| 14:23.44 | datacrusher | sorri annew |
| 14:23.50 | datacrusher | im using kubuntu 9,10 |
| 14:23.53 | datacrusher | i think its kde 4 |
| 14:24.11 | annew | datacrusher: you mean annma ;-) |
| 14:24.12 | datacrusher | im on a library, i want the users to have acces only to firefox |
| 14:24.20 | datacrusher | sorry annew , i meant annma |
| 14:24.40 | datacrusher | if its possible, firefox and open office |
| 14:24.49 | annma | datacrusher: there's no graphical kiosk tool for KDE4 yo need to do it by hand |
| 14:25.09 | datacrusher | hm.. is there a list or documentation about that? |
| 14:25.14 | annma | so you want a KDE menu with only those items? |
| 14:25.23 | annma | yes, let me find it |
| 14:25.59 | datacrusher | yeah, firefox kiosk tool opens on fullscreen, but user still can use alt-f4, alt-tab |
| 14:26.15 | datacrusher | and call the menu by super + esc |
| 14:26.20 | annma | firefox is not a KDE app though |
| 14:26.36 | annma | ah OK I get it |
| 14:26.36 | datacrusher | hm. i better keep konqueror? |
| 14:26.39 | annma | no no |
| 14:26.49 | datacrusher | forgot the name of the browser |
| 14:26.53 | annma | you mean you want to blobk the global KDE shortcuts |
| 14:27.00 | annma | to block |
| 14:27.04 | datacrusher | yeah, most of all |
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| 14:27.36 | datacrusher | in the big picture, the user could be able to edit a document he brings in in a pendrive for instance, or save some article to his pendrive |
| 14:27.46 | datacrusher | and use the web |
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| 14:27.49 | datacrusher | just that |
| 14:27.54 | datacrusher | no ctrl_alt_f1 |
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| 14:28.41 | datacrusher | well, if its possible to make a user that asks no password at login, with all this blocks and a management user, tty dont need to be blocked |
| 14:29.05 | annma | you have some kiosk keys explained here |
| 14:29.07 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Keys |
| 14:29.21 | annma | I hate this wiki which is not easily navigable |
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| 14:30.18 | annma | kiosk introduction is still valid minus the kiosk tool http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction_(fr) |
| 14:30.19 | datacrusher | hmm nice |
| 14:31.08 | datacrusher | ill take a look thanks |
| 14:31.55 | annma | you can ask on the kde-devel mailing all your questions |
| 14:32.06 | annma | precising what KDE version you have |
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| 14:32.42 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration |
| 14:32.49 | annma | that lists resources |
| 14:33.23 | annma | some are outdated or obsolete but with all that you can maybe find your way |
| 14:33.24 | Gargantua | Is the author of KmPlot here? |
| 14:33.45 | annma | Gargantua: no but yo ucan talk to me |
| 14:33.52 | annma | I am from the Edu team |
| 14:34.01 | Gargantua | Well I found a bug but I can't remember what it was, lol |
| 14:34.05 | annma | lol |
| 14:34.07 | annma | ;) |
| 14:34.21 | annma | was it a crash? |
| 14:34.29 | Gargantua | No, just a parser error. |
| 14:34.39 | Gargantua | Its a great app, but should have a list of all the functions so you can remove/clear. That'd be great. |
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| 14:35.25 | annma | there's a bug in implicit plot |
| 14:36.23 | annma | there is a list of functions |
| 14:36.36 | annma | what KDE versin do you have. |
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| 14:37.26 | annma | ooops when I move the side panel it becomes inactive |
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| 14:38.05 | annma | and I can't dock it back!!! |
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| 14:39.09 | datacrusher | annma, any hopes on the development to a frontend gui to kiosk kde tools? |
| 14:39.14 | lepagee | is there a way to switch the graphic engine for all KDE apps at once? |
| 14:39.14 | Gargantua | 3.5.9 annma, maybe the bug has already been fixed? |
| 14:39.22 | Gargantua | That'd spare me the trouble of having to remember what it was lol |
| 14:39.31 | annma | Gargantua: probably but there are others |
| 14:39.35 | datacrusher | im fighting against a conservative admin, with vista machines and steady state tool |
| 14:39.42 | annma | we don't develop 3.5 anymore Gargantua |
| 14:39.51 | datacrusher | i preffer to let the users use linux, just to see that they can use office and use the web nicely |
| 14:39.52 | annma | in KDE 4 KmPlot has a list |
| 14:40.07 | Gargantua | Sweet |
| 14:40.19 | annma | datacrusher: the GUI tool was taken by someone but he does not seem to develop it much :( |
| 14:40.42 | annma | datacrusher: when we moved from KDE 3 to KDE 4, all programs had to be heavily changed |
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| 14:41.49 | datacrusher | i see. kde 4 its very nice |
| 14:42.07 | datacrusher | i lost toutch with kde a long time ago |
| 14:42.16 | datacrusher | got very impressed with kde 4 |
| 14:42.20 | annma | :) |
| 14:42.26 | datacrusher | so uncle bill |
| 14:42.44 | annma | we're working on the kiosk support, even if there is no tool for it |
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| 14:42.50 | datacrusher | but thinks are getting hard for me here, since i raised the flag and cant do what i wont |
| 14:43.07 | annma | yes |
| 14:43.29 | datacrusher | ill study what you told me, but time is not on my side :( |
| 14:43.46 | annma | :( |
| 14:44.08 | datacrusher | ill try to documment what im doing, since a library its a common user intent |
| 14:44.40 | datacrusher | best would be to recompile a "library kiosk" distro |
| 14:45.03 | annma | best would be to have config files ready for yo to use |
| 14:45.07 | datacrusher | since today most of the client search tools are via web |
| 14:45.09 | annma | you |
| 14:45.43 | datacrusher | that i need to study too.. if i would clone the machines since they are al similar, or if ill export > import config files |
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| 14:46.17 | datacrusher | a very basic issue is to let the kde log automaticaly, on a user with no privileges |
| 14:46.26 | annma | yes |
| 14:46.33 | datacrusher | and myself have an user with password for administration |
| 14:46.41 | annma | yes |
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| 14:48.34 | annma | has to go |
| 14:48.44 | annma | good luck datacrusher |
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| 15:29.39 | lepagee | is there a way to switch the graphic engine for all KDE apps at once? (native, raster or opengl) |
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| 15:58.22 | klikklak | hi, I'm getting full disks because my logs are spammed by nepomuk virtuoso with: 17:54:56 Reference to page with free remap dp = 8475, remap = 8475 |
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| 16:01.02 | klikklak | is there a way to turn off logging, or better yet solve this somehow? |
| 16:01.41 | klikklak | speed is several gigs in twenty minutes or so. so either the machine grinds to a halt or I keep deleting them manually |
| 16:01.47 | klikklak | I'm on archlinux, |
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| 16:05.06 | klikklak | the silence suggests that I open a bug :) |
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| 16:06.46 | myzinsky | hey, i start with kdm autologin and a .xsession, the theme of my qt-application is plastique but i want oxygene |
| 16:07.02 | myzinsky | in systemsettings oxygene is activatet |
| 16:07.13 | myzinsky | but when i start it is always plastik... |
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| 16:08.37 | nickfennell | How do i enable the turbo in KDE ? |
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| 16:35.43 | kdepepo | nickfennell, disable compositing, Nepomuk and Strigi. |
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| 16:42.01 | ljrc | hi |
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| 17:29.12 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.1 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 17:38.26 | eshat | Hi all... dolphin cannot mount internal devices. With and without a fstab-entry, I get the message, that mounting is refused for uid=1000 |
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| 17:38.53 | thiago_home | not KDE's problem |
| 17:38.59 | thiago_home | you have to check with your distribution |
| 17:39.04 | thiago_home | they're the ones that set the policy |
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| 17:49.15 | auska | hi! |
| 17:49.54 | nickfennell | ugh |
| 17:50.00 | nickfennell | kde is really starting to blow |
| 17:50.34 | auska | Do you know any program for kde to previsualitzar the point source? |
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| 18:09.06 | vizor | hi |
| 18:09.17 | vizor | can kde 4.4.1 work without hal? |
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| 18:10.02 | pinotree | vizor: if you don't want any device information, no |
| 18:10.29 | pinotree | vizor: (and possibly ask just once...) |
| 18:11.19 | vizor | as everybody know Xorg will get rid of hal dependence |
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| 18:11.50 | vizor | why doesn't kde use udisks? |
| 18:12.24 | rdieter | vizor: it's too new, and doesn't support all that hal can do (yet, may never will) |
| 18:12.26 | pinotree | because it makes no sense to? |
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| 18:13.28 | vizor | but hal is old and doesn't develop actively |
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| 18:13.47 | pinotree | and hal works so far |
| 18:13.57 | vizor | :) |
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| 19:17.00 | harshit_jain | Is kde not part of gsoc2010?? |
| 19:20.16 | pinotree | it is? |
| 19:21.00 | Dice-Man | hi pinotree |
| 19:22.56 | pinotree | hi? |
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