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01:11.59 | Digital-Pioneer | So what exactly does ~/.fishsrv.pl do? :P |
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01:15.26 | NewWorld | Digital-Pioneer: Put it on pastebin so someone can examine |
01:18.29 | Digital-Pioneer | http://pastebin.com/SpAp3LAW |
01:18.34 | Digital-Pioneer | It's pretty nasty. :P |
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01:25.08 | sreich | oh my eyes.. |
01:25.20 | sreich | would gladly...100 fold, take C++ over that any day |
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02:30.55 | NewWorld | Digital-Pioneer: What?! No indentation?! |
02:31.48 | amason_ | jeebus no wonder they call perl a write only language |
02:32.25 | sreich | haha, write once, read never ;-) |
02:32.40 | sreich | or "write once, read nowhere" |
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06:31.27 | freeaks | hi there i'd like to know if it's possible to hide dolphin's columns header view in list view ? |
06:32.07 | freeaks | column header where it reads "name size date ..... |
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06:37.34 | MetalDust | I'm not running it but i found this, View: > > Show Details-> Hide (name of column that is shown) |
06:37.37 | MetalDust | so i could be wrong. |
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06:38.36 | freeaks | MetalDust, tnx for the reply but there's no such menu item |
06:38.56 | freeaks | in view menu, there's no "Show details" |
06:39.14 | MetalDust | yeah i tired. |
06:39.36 | jlindsay | Right click the bar with the column names. You can remove all but the Name it seems. |
06:39.42 | freeaks | and i can't spot anything that would hide columns headers |
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06:40.25 | freeaks | jlindsay, i do not want to show or hide more columns, i would like to just hide the column header itself |
06:41.23 | jlindsay | Ah, never seen that option anywhere |
06:41.35 | freeaks | too bad :/ |
06:41.47 | freeaks | thanks for trying and help anyway |
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07:10.43 | MaikB | Hey guys and gals. |
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07:16.30 | MaikB | At the Linux Action Show it was said, that kde has a share of 33% and falling (from 66% before ubuntu appeared). Note: this doesn't mean there are fewer kde users in total! What would be interesting is what Linux users use after a year or so, However, after trying gnome on my arch linux box I wonder why this is. My experience is, that kde's desktop effects are much slicker that what gnome does and it much easier to configure. |
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07:18.55 | MaikB | Why do you ppl think kde is, what I hear often in podcasts, an unstable toys DE? |
07:19.11 | MaikB | * is said to be |
07:19.18 | MaikB | It is not, of course |
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07:24.05 | MaikB | no one? |
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07:27.46 | gdebure | MaikB: you are most likely surrounded by KDE users in a #kde channel, so I'm sure most of them agree with your point of view ;) |
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07:28.42 | Kolia | MaikB: KDE is moving fast, and most people using it wants the bleeding edge |
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07:29.00 | Kolia | so they sometimes use "instable" packages (like backports in Kubuntu) |
07:29.04 | MaikB | gdebure: Well, I'm not a fan boy and I think there are reasons why gnome has overtaken kde and others are closing (xfce lxde) |
07:29.15 | Kolia | and then they complain. |
07:30.03 | MaikB | Kolia: I think you're hit an important point here. If development is meant to go fast, it is important to release early and often |
07:30.52 | MaikB | But this leaves inexperienced users behind. Users that might get experienced enough to help kde. |
07:33.09 | MaikB | I.e. the indexing service is potentially an awesome feature. It is activated by default. But it slows down kde in the first hours, exactly the moment when new users are tinkering around. |
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07:35.01 | MaikB | It is a tricky problem. |
07:36.53 | MaikB | I just wondered if some of you have some (constructive) thoughts on this. :) |
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07:40.03 | jelly | Hi, I've added a custom protocol handler in ~/.kde/share/services/; how do I make Konqueror 4.3.4 (Debian testing) know about it without restarting the complete session? |
07:41.37 | MaikB | jelly: I think kbuildsycoca4 is what you want |
07:42.37 | jelly | MaikB: thanks, the man page suggests so, I'll try that |
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07:45.09 | jelly | hpmh, still "protocol not supported" |
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07:48.55 | MaikB | jelly: hm, I am not sure whether share/service is the right dir |
07:49.18 | MaikB | jelly: On my distro, its share/kde4/services |
07:49.28 | jelly | MaikB: system protocols are in /usr/share/services/telnet.protocol |
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07:49.49 | MaikB | jelly: maybe `find .kde|grep service' gives you some idea |
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07:50.34 | jelly | eh, there's a .kde/share/kde4/services/ as well |
07:51.20 | jelly | ah, that's better. Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'env WINEPREFIX="/home/jelly/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\reLiveQt\reLiveQt.exe" "%u"'. |
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07:51.40 | MaikB | does someone know how to let kbuildsycoca4 the directories it searches? |
07:51.47 | MaikB | this would be very helpful |
07:52.17 | jelly | now I merely have to figure out the correct escaping syntax for .protocol files |
07:52.29 | MaikB | jelly: no idea about this :) |
07:53.08 | jelly | your suggestion solved the protocol undefined issue |
07:53.37 | MaikB | yw :) |
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07:55.36 | lazni | is there a way to save a nepomuk query as a directory accessible to non-nepomuk-enabled programs? ala nepomuk+fuse |
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07:56.12 | jelly | also, there's arguably a bug in Konqueror's error page wrt redirections to a different protocol, it says "URL: http://goto.re-live.se/relive:track:1:9:db Protocol: http" while the actual issue is with the protocol and page this URL redirects to |
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07:59.03 | MaikB | for the record: |
07:59.06 | MaikB | maik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --install services |
07:59.06 | MaikB | /usr/share/kde4/services/ |
07:59.06 | MaikB | maik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --localprefix |
07:59.06 | MaikB | /home/maik/.kde4/ |
07:59.06 | MaikB | maik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --prefix |
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08:00.53 | MaikB | Was I blocked for pasting? |
08:00.59 | MaikB | meh |
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08:02.06 | MaikB | ok, one more time: kde4-config --types how kde names stuff |
08:02.33 | MaikB | among them is `services' |
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08:03.00 | MaikB | kde-config --install services tells where to put services on the system |
08:03.55 | MaikB | kde4-config --prefix tells the system prefix, while kde4-config --localprefix tells the location in $HOME |
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08:05.27 | MaikB | replacing the results of kde4-config --prefix with the result of kde4-config --localprefix in the result of kde4-config --install services tells one where to put user specific services |
08:05.29 | MaikB | lol |
08:05.42 | MaikB | simple, isn't it? |
08:05.44 | MaikB | :P |
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08:11.01 | MaikB | echo `kde4-config --install services`|sed s:$(kde4-config --prefix):$(kde4-config --localprefix):g |
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08:14.23 | jelly | MaikB: yeah, but my inner pedant says: useless use of echo and ``! |
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08:16.10 | MaikB | jelly: patches are welcome :) |
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08:22.16 | jelly | MaikB: thanks, I got it working (well, almost. directly entering relive:track:1:4:1il now works, but http://goto.re-live.se/relive:track:1:4:1il which 301 redirects to the former doesn't) |
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09:50.27 | TooTea | Hello, is there any simple way to change the language of KMail message templates? |
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09:55.43 | sredna2 | TooTea: you can set the language for the idendity |
09:56.03 | sredna2 | i have multiple identities with different languages for that purpose :) |
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09:56.22 | TooTea | sredna2: oh, thanks... |
09:56.29 | sredna2 | np :) |
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11:40.09 | ademmer | hi! anyone knows, how i can upload a whole wallpaper pack on kde-look.org that it works with KHotNewStuff? |
11:40.29 | ademmer | I created the package according to the KDE format in several resolutions with a descriptive .desktop file |
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11:40.46 | ademmer | but i don't know what is the best format to upload it to kde-look.org |
11:40.47 | annma | did yo uupload it yet? |
11:40.58 | annma | tar.gz |
11:41.04 | ademmer | a tar.gz. file would not work with the KHotNewStuff wallpaper thing? |
11:41.07 | annma | it'll be unpacked by KHNS |
11:41.13 | annma | it will |
11:41.48 | ademmer | annma: ah, cool! the .tar.gz should itself contain a folder with the wallpaper pack name and below the structure with the desktop file etc? |
11:42.25 | annma | ademmer: no idea, you must look wallpapers that work |
11:43.11 | annma | ademmer: when you upload it, I can test it |
11:43.15 | ademmer | annma: i haven't found whole packs with several resolutions, that's the pity |
11:43.25 | annma | let me look* |
11:44.09 | ademmer | annma: gimme 2 minutes |
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11:45.18 | annma | ademmer: people usually only want 1 resolution |
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11:46.53 | ademmer | annma: but i see no point in adding the wallpaper 10 times for 10 different resultions :) |
11:47.06 | annma | as the artist |
11:47.09 | annma | but the users do |
11:47.30 | annma | isn't it how other artists upload their pictures? |
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11:48.13 | ademmer | annma: here is the archive I will upload for testing now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112664/Precious_KDE.tar.gz |
11:48.44 | annma | OK |
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11:58.16 | ademmer | annma: ok, I uploaded it: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=122402 seems like KHotNewStuff needs to refresh first |
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11:58.45 | annma | ademmer: yes, I don't know how long it takes |
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11:59.40 | ademmer | annma: let's see :) |
11:59.52 | annma | I'll be away for 30 minutes or so and I'll look when I am back* |
12:00.19 | annma | oh it's very nice |
12:00.31 | annma | I like minimalist wallpapers :) |
12:01.37 | ademmer | :) *happy* |
12:01.41 | ademmer | mee too |
12:01.43 | ademmer | me too |
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12:40.38 | annma | ademmer: ping |
12:40.54 | ademmer | annma: pong |
12:41.14 | annma | what category is your wallpaper in? |
12:41.27 | ademmer | KDE wallpaper (other) |
12:41.39 | ademmer | should i place it in a specific resolution?= |
12:41.43 | annma | from the KNewStuff wallpaper file I see |
12:41.45 | annma | Categories=KDE Wallpaper 800x600,KDE Wallpaper 1024x768,KDE Wallpaper 1280x1024,KDE Wallpaper 1440x900,KDE Wallpaper 1600x1200,KDE Wallpaper 1680x1050,KDE Wallpaper 1920x1200,KDE Wallpaper 2560x1600,KDE Wallpaper (SVG) |
12:41.57 | annma | there is no Other category |
12:42.15 | annma | is it a valid category? |
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12:42.37 | annma | that means that currently your wallpaper cannot appear in the list |
12:42.46 | Mahara | I have some questions related to RSS Now widget; I just added a feed to it, I clicked on a link from the feed and everytime I do this I see two processes starting Firefox and Konqueror, why so? I have setup Firefox to be the default browser in the system and still Konqueror is starting and then it dies, is there a workaround to this ? |
12:42.57 | ademmer | annma: it is a valid category, but i moved it to 1920x1200 now |
12:43.04 | ademmer | let's see if this works |
12:43.25 | annma | OK |
12:44.12 | Mahara | Both Firefox and Konqueror are starting at the same time and then after a while the Konqueror process is killed |
12:45.19 | annma | Mahara: run Konqueror from a terminal then |
12:46.01 | Mahara | I don't need that; the problem is that the RSS feed should open ONLY Firefox not both Konqueror and Firefox |
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12:48.06 | ademmer | annma: now it works! :) |
12:48.29 | annma | ademmer: do you have it in the wallpaper list after you install it? |
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12:50.27 | ademmer | annma: no, it was saved in ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers but only as .tar.gz, KHNS did not extract it |
12:50.54 | annma | argh so I was wrong |
12:52.27 | ademmer | annma: so right now it is practically impossible to provide the default kde wallpaper format :) |
12:53.12 | ademmer | annma: I'll try to provide a patch which extract archives after download, ok? |
12:53.41 | annma | how will you list the correct one in the wallpaper list? |
12:54.53 | annma | ademmer: from my Konsole output |
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12:54.57 | annma | plasma-desktop(17878)/knewstuff (api) KNS3::Installation::installDownloadedFileAndUncompress: isarchive: true |
12:54.59 | annma | plasma-desktop(17878)/knewstuff (api) KNS3::Installation::installDownloadedFileAndUncompress: installing non-archive from "http://www.linuxmag.de/kde-look.org/Precious_KDE.tar.gz" |
12:55.30 | annma | is it because it's not hosted in kdelook |
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12:57.16 | annma | ademmer: yes |
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12:57.32 | annma | hmm no as KNS finds it |
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13:00.23 | ademmer | annma: i cannot host it on kde-look.org, the quota is 750kb and the package is 2.8mb |
13:01.15 | annma | ouch |
13:01.33 | annma | can't you try with only 2 subdirs? |
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13:02.28 | annma | I tested KNS plasma themes recently and they were not installed when not on the server if I remember correctly |
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13:05.28 | ademmer | annma: well, the archive is fetched but not extracted |
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13:06.25 | annma | in any case it should be extracted as the KNS file mentions "Uncompress=archive" |
13:09.33 | annma | I am trying to see where the problem is but so far nothing I installed works! |
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13:10.43 | annma | this is pretty broken, I tried for example http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Granular+2.0+%22Wolverine%22?content=122387 |
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13:11.14 | Creap | if I select in the task bar to group programs manually, how do I group them? |
13:11.21 | Creap | drag-n-drop doesn't do anything |
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13:13.42 | annma | ademmer: OK I was looking at the 4.5 KNS file |
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13:14.31 | annma | ademmer: for 4.5 it will extract archives |
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13:19.35 | annma | ademmer: OK I have the fix |
13:20.00 | annma | just need to add Uncompress=archive in the .knsrc file for wallpapers, will work for post 4.2 |
13:20.12 | ademmer | annma: will the fix be backported for 4.4.3? |
13:20.19 | annma | yes |
13:20.21 | ademmer | too bad 4.4.2 is just out of the door |
13:20.31 | ademmer | annma: thx |
13:20.34 | annma | teh fix is in trunk which I was looking at |
13:20.42 | annma | and I'll commit it now in branch |
13:25.48 | annma | ademmer: I just committed the fix |
13:26.01 | annma | I can add the other category as well |
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13:26.23 | annma | as it makes more sense to have the archive in this category probably |
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13:26.40 | ademmer | annma: that was fix :) |
13:26.48 | annma | silly me to have had Kate trunk open and not noticying |
13:26.53 | ademmer | !s/fix/quick/ |
13:27.14 | annma | I know KNS and it was a 1 liner |
13:27.19 | annma | ;) |
13:28.30 | ademmer | argh, I wish the tickets that are assigned to me currently (work project) would be one-liners, too :D |
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13:28.56 | ademmer | we are currently working on a big projectmanagement/workflow/billing/... webbased tool |
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13:29.31 | ademmer | is a PHP / MySQL / JavaScript / XHTML / CSS coder |
13:29.54 | annma | and you are an artist as well! |
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13:30.15 | ademmer | annma: far from that! I can just handle gimp and adapt photoshop tutorials to gimp :D |
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13:30.48 | annma | ;) |
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13:30.54 | annma | that's more than I can do |
13:31.07 | ademmer | i have a little bit keen sense of design, that's all |
13:31.32 | ademmer | at least, i had some discussions with nuno and sebas about the network management plasmoid GUI |
13:31.40 | ademmer | that's all I can contribute to KDE |
13:31.52 | ademmer | needs to learn Qt quickly |
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13:32.12 | annma | we need GUI people |
13:32.22 | annma | some of our designs are awful |
13:32.24 | ademmer | I once learned C++ back in my university days but i have not found the time to get into Qt hacking. A few simple patches, that's all |
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13:32.41 | ademmer | annma: KDE 4.4 is stunningly beautiful on the most edges |
13:33.18 | annma | some dialogs need work and also System Settings is not the best GUI in my opinion |
13:33.33 | ademmer | :) |
13:33.34 | annma | but we're making progress, I agree |
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13:35.33 | ademmer | otswim: not that i knew a hotkey for this |
13:35.38 | ademmer | otswim: let's see... |
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13:36.41 | ademmer | otswim: [meta]+[ctrl]+[v] for VI mode and then [y],[y],[p] |
13:36.43 | ademmer | ;) |
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13:38.11 | otswim | ademmer: :( |
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14:52.57 | FedoraUser | hellooo guys |
14:53.24 | FedoraUser | is there a easy way to link virtual desktops with activites? |
14:53.34 | FedoraUser | i used perVirtualDesktopViews but it doesn't help me |
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14:55.48 | Half-Left | FedoraUser: There is a option for that yes |
14:56.12 | FedoraUser | Half-Left: any specific guidelines for me? |
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14:56.21 | Half-Left | What KDE version? |
14:56.44 | FedoraUser | just a sec |
14:57.09 | EvilGuru_ | Are there any known performance problems with KWin + Compositing and Intel chips? As with my X4500 I get much better performance with Xrender/no compositing than with OpenGL composting (although GL is working fine) |
14:57.15 | FedoraUser | what package to 'rpm -q ' ? |
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14:57.33 | Half-Left | Help>About KDE |
14:57.57 | FedoraUser | 4.4.1 |
14:58.18 | Half-Left | in that case then systemsettings>Desktop>Multiple Desktops>Different Activity for each desktop |
14:58.53 | Half-Left | That should do what you want |
14:59.24 | FedoraUser | feel so stupid right now |
14:59.30 | Mahara | you shouldn't |
14:59.31 | Half-Left | Why? |
14:59.33 | FedoraUser | thank you Half-Left very much |
14:59.43 | Half-Left | no worries |
14:59.49 | Mahara | learning something new is always a good thing |
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14:59.58 | Half-Left | in 4.3 is was harder to find :p |
15:00.08 | FedoraUser | ok, feel better now |
15:00.09 | FedoraUser | ;) |
15:00.13 | FedoraUser | thanks again all |
15:00.18 | Mahara | nobody can know everything ;) |
15:00.21 | miasma | should this contain some instructions? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/848 |
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15:00.27 | Half-Left | It was tooked away in the ZUI settings on zoom out :) |
15:00.46 | Half-Left | tucked* |
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15:02.27 | miasma | hm ? |
15:02.37 | miasma | 610 reads and no content. that's pretty odd |
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15:45.05 | underscores | can somebody help me to place my task manager on the left side of the panel (I accidently deleted it and now it is on the right) |
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15:46.36 | PaddyMac | Can someone tell me which is preferred in kde: avahin or mdnsresponder. |
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15:47.57 | underscores | no one? <_> |
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15:49.43 | PaddyMac | Just me, I guess. |
15:49.54 | PaddyMac | I was trying to find out which should be used in kde" avahi or mdnsresponder |
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16:29.36 | barraponto | kdevelop 3.9.99 is crashing everytime i close the program, anyone else? |
16:29.45 | barraponto | (running kde 4.4.1 on archlinux) |
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16:43.29 | annma | barraponto: pastebin crash backtrace |
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16:46.20 | barraponto | ok, i will install gdb first... |
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16:54.42 | annma | and debug packages |
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17:08.33 | MaikB | Hello. Which is the place where plasmoids log error messages? Thre reason why I ask is the pastebin plasmoid stopped working for, which means it always fails to upload the clipboard content. |
17:08.35 | MaikB | thx |
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17:10.07 | Matisse | hi |
17:10.47 | Matisse | do I need to allow a certain port in my router configuration to send files via kopete? |
17:10.56 | Matisse | well.. no |
17:11.03 | Matisse | wrong channel |
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17:11.31 | Matisse | and the answer is "no" too... |
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18:09.09 | djustice | "Insufficient Karma" <- should i not commit .cache.bz2 files? |
18:09.28 | djustice | or is that generated? |
18:09.30 | djustice | hmm |
18:10.04 | annma | wrong whannel djustice |
18:10.07 | annma | channel |
18:10.30 | djustice | annma: o. thx. |
18:10.30 | thiago_home | and it should also tell you why it rejected |
18:11.09 | djustice | thiago_home: nope. just "Insufficient Karma: no permission to commit path: " << pathname (.cache.bz2) |
18:11.30 | thiago_home | move to #kde-devel |
18:12.36 | djustice | :) |
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18:14.50 | ath1 | I just installed KDE4. What a great piece of software. To all developers: Well done and keep up the good work. |
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18:18.43 | annma | thanks ath1 |
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18:30.09 | Nakkel | What does the KDE_MULTIHEAD variable actually do, if anything? |
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18:33.07 | Tm_T | Nakkel: I do not know, never seen it in use really |
18:33.14 | kushou_ | http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16920/kde-multihead-environment-variable.html |
18:34.11 | kushou_ | (I don't know if this link is right) |
18:35.36 | Nakkel | Hmm |
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18:36.40 | Nakkel | I have multihead setup but the variable is still false and KDE shows on both displays. |
18:37.49 | kushou_ | Hmm |
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18:39.22 | Nakkel | What Im trying to find is, is there any way to have one large desktop like in KDE3 used to have. Like I could set one 2560x1024 background and it would set on both displays while on KDE4 I need to split the image in two with editor and set both halves separate on both desktops/displays. |
18:39.56 | thiago_home | no, I don't think so |
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18:42.11 | Nakkel | I just want my ~1000 backgrounds back in use, with autochange. ;___; |
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18:43.08 | thiago_home | what's the problem? |
18:43.12 | thiago_home | it'll be just per screen |
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18:44.26 | Nakkel | Yea but those are 2560x1024 and splitting over 1000 images in two isnt that much fun. |
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18:47.04 | kushou_ | Nakkel: can you do a screen of what you currently get ? |
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18:57.35 | Nakkel | kushou_: Yea, sure, just a sec ⦠|
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18:59.08 | Nakkel | kushou_: http://nakkel.pp.fi/dualskreech.jpg |
18:59.44 | Nakkel | On KDE3 the 2560 wide image would sperad on both displays. |
19:00.06 | kushou_ | hmm ok I see |
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19:02.12 | MoDaX | pinotree: change the topic? |
19:02.29 | *** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ |
19:02.34 | *** topic/#kde by pinotree -> KDE SC 4.4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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19:02.51 | pinotree | MoDaX: tnx :) |
19:03.30 | kushou_ | Nakkel: I don't know, sorry |
19:04.10 | kushou_ | may be there is something to set in the KD settings panel |
19:07.36 | barraponto | kdevelop 3.9.99 has stopped crashing once i installed gdb, can it be somehow related? |
19:08.13 | annma | probably ;) you can ask in your distro channel maybe |
19:08.16 | barraponto | also, kdevelop 3.9.99 no longer remembers working sets but the open one on restart |
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19:10.11 | barraponto | annma: do you know of any documentation on how to use kdevelop4? |
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19:11.36 | annma | barraponto: I used to write some for KDevelop 3 ;) |
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19:11.56 | annma | barraponto: did you look on the kdevelop wiki and website |
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19:13.48 | annma | barraponto: and there is #kdevelop |
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19:17.30 | barraponto | annma: yes i looked for it on the website/wiki but they are confusing or incomplete or there isn't at all. |
19:17.43 | annma | :( |
19:17.45 | barraponto | annma: it depends a lot on the feature i'm trying to understand. |
19:18.04 | barraponto | annma: i'll try writing some, but i have to find out how they work... |
19:18.12 | annma | yes |
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20:08.52 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
20:08.59 | Kenjiro | has anyone had problems compiling kdeutils? |
20:09.08 | Kenjiro | that's what i get -> http://pastebin.com/m6AvZar9 |
20:13.18 | alienBOB | Kenjiro: 4.4.2? |
20:13.30 | alienBOB | Ah yes |
20:13.50 | Kenjiro | alienBOB: yep |
20:13.58 | alienBOB | Do you have a xz package? |
20:14.05 | Kenjiro | alienBOB: yep |
20:14.07 | alienBOB | Hmm |
20:14.14 | Kenjiro | but let me recheck |
20:14.35 | alienBOB | With libarchive rebuilt after that? |
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20:15.39 | Kenjiro | alienBOB: any "special version" of xz required? |
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20:15.54 | alienBOB | Not that I know... I built 4.4.2 without errors |
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20:26.20 | Kenjiro | alienBOB: ok, the libarchive I had installed was "too old" ;) |
20:26.36 | Kenjiro | now it looks like things might fly |
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20:28.00 | Kenjiro | alienBOB: thanks for the tip. well, time to pick up the kids, seeya |
20:29.32 | baby__ | hi |
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20:30.36 | sredna | how is groups stored in the new addressbook? |
20:31.02 | thiago_home | in a mysql database |
20:31.06 | sredna | not in akonadi please |
20:31.16 | sredna | akonadi is too unstable for storing things! |
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20:32.16 | thiago_home | it has never crashed for me |
20:32.35 | GNU\colossus | it never started working correctly for me ;) |
20:32.37 | sredna | it can not start regularly, and sometimes it claims it failed when it did not |
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20:33.27 | sredna | the other day it refused to start at all |
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20:34.01 | GNU\colossus | it's been really flaky for me, too |
20:34.02 | sredna | and since it is not said anywhere that it actually stores things, i just deleted its DAMNED data |
20:34.12 | GNU\colossus | I decided not to bother until KDE 4.5 is ready |
20:34.29 | sredna | now i lost my groups, which are very hard to make because of the lack of category support |
20:34.37 | sredna | fuck you akonadi |
20:34.55 | sredna | sorry for my french |
20:35.05 | sredna | but kde pim is at its worst ever |
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20:35.55 | thiago_home | it's working fine for me for 4.4 code |
20:36.00 | thiago_home | I haven't upgraded to 4.5 alpha |
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20:36.11 | sredna | it is working horrible for me kde 4.4.1 |
20:36.19 | bbear | I think something is wrong in kate. |
20:36.22 | sredna | i have dropped using unstable kde, too dangerous |
20:36.54 | bbear | When I open a project after moving the files into, the soft is blocking. |
20:37.03 | bbear | sredna: what is unstable ? |
20:37.13 | sredna | kde is unstable |
20:37.32 | bbear | I mean, kde 4.4 is unstable, but you would use which kde ? |
20:37.34 | bbear | 3.5 ? |
20:37.37 | sredna | no printing, no functional addressbook |
20:37.52 | sredna | 3.5 is probably the most stable version of kde so far, but it is a bit outdated |
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20:38.20 | bbear | sredna: sometimes I wonder if kde is not adding magic stuff et become a bit too bloaty. |
20:38.28 | bbear | But I trust the kde devs. |
20:38.32 | sredna | i dont |
20:38.48 | sredna | at least not today |
20:39.26 | sredna | today i have to waste another hour restoring data because of regressions and unstablility in kde 4.4 |
20:39.37 | sredna | happy easter |
20:39.43 | bbear | sredna: what is the distribution you're using ? |
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20:42.58 | sredna | now i cant even add a group |
20:44.10 | sredna | Maybe it is like windows, reboot to apply |
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20:44.54 | sredna | yes |
20:45.03 | szal | bbear: why is 4.4 unstable? |
20:45.03 | sredna | except all the members were lost in the process |
20:46.04 | bbear | I dont know ask to dev |
20:46.42 | bbear | szal: It's the development team whom has a quality test environment. |
20:46.59 | bbear | So far, I dont use kde but fluxbox, neither konqueror. |
20:47.01 | sredna | kde 4.4 is supposedly stable |
20:47.04 | bbear | Too many crash. |
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20:47.27 | bbear | and kde has a problem with the display on my working computer |
20:49.36 | bbear | and composite manager or something like that. |
20:49.37 | bbear | the experience told me to not use kde. Why I got crash, I dont know, maybe its qt, or C++ widely based environment, but it's like that. |
20:49.38 | bbear | I use kmail because it's a smart mail client |
20:52.19 | sredna | thiago_home: can you create a group in kaddressbook? |
20:52.35 | sredna | when i do, it does not become visible |
20:52.55 | sredna | until after i restart kaddressbook (by restarting kontact in my case) |
20:53.10 | thiago_home | sredna: never tried |
20:54.03 | sredna | now i can, just before i could not |
20:54.10 | sredna | i can have two groups of the same name |
20:54.37 | sredna | now say it is stable |
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20:56.03 | sredna | and next time akonadi refuses to start, i have to try and figure out what to delete but keep the database and hope that it will reuse that? |
20:56.17 | sredna | using akonadi does not feel safe! |
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20:57.16 | git__ | how often does knotes poll to save the note content? |
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21:05.10 | sredna2 | why doesn't the addressbook use marble for setting location data? |
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21:14.38 | xenoterracide | it doesn't seem that long ago is 4.4.1 awesome |
21:15.28 | dantti | what do I need to change for kate keep open different windows (4.4.2)? |
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21:16.41 | sredna2 | dantti: i do not understand the question |
21:17.24 | dantti | sredna2: I click on a file on dolphin and one kate is opened , then I click on another and the other file goes to the kate already opened.. |
21:18.26 | dantti | I'd like to keep having several windows cause I open one window for each project I'm developing... |
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21:27.45 | sredna2 | dantti: check what the command is for kate in the kde application configuration |
21:27.57 | sredna2 | dantti: if it has -u or --use in it, remove that |
21:28.00 | dantti | kate -b -U% |
21:28.39 | dantti | oops kate -b %U |
21:28.40 | sredna2 | ah, the -b |
21:28.48 | sredna2 | try removing the -b |
21:28.53 | dantti | k |
21:29.47 | dantti | sredna2: nah.. same problem.. |
21:30.07 | sredna2 | dantti: alternatively, you can start a session using "kate -s mysession" |
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21:30.35 | sredna2 | dantti: mayeb your distro did something bad to kate |
21:31.00 | dantti | sredna2: hmm normally debian packages don't have much patches... |
21:31.17 | sredna2 | debian should supposedly be fine |
21:31.24 | dantti | sredna2: the behavior I described to you is still valid on your installation? |
21:31.28 | sredna2 | dantti: try kate URL from konsole |
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21:31.54 | sredna2 | dantti: i can not know, text files opened from dolphin will open kwrite here |
21:31.57 | dantti | nah.. |
21:32.17 | sredna2 | i use kate by starting it explictly |
21:32.27 | sredna2 | usually with a session |
21:32.49 | sredna2 | starting kate with a url does not take over an existing instance |
21:33.08 | dantti | hmm kate -n starts a new instance.. |
21:33.50 | dantti | thanks.. |
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21:33.55 | sredna2 | uhm, it actually do take over a running instance. that is new to me :) |
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21:34.18 | sredna2 | probably by popular request, the old behavior confused a lot of people |
21:34.58 | natman | Hi is this the place to learn how to help out in the KDE world? even if i only use Kubuntu? |
21:35.03 | sredna2 | opening without an url should open a new instance too, if the documentation is correct |
21:35.26 | sredna2 | natman: this is a good place for that, yes :) |
21:35.33 | sreich | natman: help out? in what area, exactly? |
21:35.42 | sreich | i.e. hacker, artist, documentation writer.. |
21:36.07 | sreich | natman: (see http://www.kde.org/community/getinvolved/) |
21:36.37 | dantti | sredna2: yup, when you are working on just one project at time it's good to open on the same session otherwise it's not cool :P |
21:36.59 | natman | sredna2: sreichi: know very little coding, but am willing to do monkey work what ever that may be just wanna help out, i am a mathematician is that is of any use? |
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21:37.34 | sredna2 | dantti: i absolutely agree, i mostly use sessions and i do not like random files to be opened in my kate windows |
21:37.49 | sredna2 | which is why i use kwrite as the default for text files |
21:38.02 | sreich | natman: not particularly |
21:38.20 | natman | sreich: :( |
21:38.45 | sreich | natman: read the page I gave you, and you should be able to find what you can help out with.. |
21:38.54 | sredna2 | natman: maybe documentation writing would be an option? You could ask the kdeedu folks if they need help with one of the math apps :) |
21:39.16 | dantti | sredna2: i see, well I don't use sessions (maybe i should start using), so when I go to another project I start a new "session" and from that on I open the files using the embeded file browser.. :P |
21:39.25 | natman | sredna2: ok thanks will do |
21:39.34 | sreich | sredna2: natman: or if you can learn to code..you can code for the math apps |
21:39.46 | sreich | for example, KAlgebra and/or speedcrunch needs a lot of help imo |
21:39.55 | natman | sredna2: Is the C++ the way to go? |
21:40.09 | sredna2 | dantti: sessions allows you to save the configuration (at least the file list, i believe there is a regression with the plugin configuration atm) |
21:40.27 | sreich | natman: yes |
21:40.43 | sredna2 | natman: if you can code c++ that is very good for helping with kde :) |
21:40.46 | dantti | sredna2: hmm I see I'll try to use that :) thanks |
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21:56.12 | sredna2 | when konqueror looses contact to its history, what went wrong? |
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21:57.17 | daedaluz | correct if I'm wrong, but didn't Qt4 have Python3 layer? |
21:57.48 | thiago_home | daedaluz: no |
21:57.54 | thiago_home | but PyQt4 is a Python layer |
21:58.28 | daedaluz | so that enables me to make native Qt4 apps in python? |
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21:58.46 | nailuj24 | daedaluz: that's right |
21:59.10 | daedaluz | yay, no need for C++ |
21:59.33 | thiago_home | didn't say anything about Python 3 |
22:01.57 | nailuj24 | daedaluz: the bindings target python 2.x though |
22:02.29 | daedaluz | well, that's not a catastrophe. I'm sure Nokia catches up |
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22:04.21 | nailuj24 | daedaluz: they have a good API reference at http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro |
22:04.51 | daedaluz | I'm actually checking it out right now. my google-fu is not weak. ;) |
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22:11.32 | daum | hey guys in kde4.4 is it just me or is the taskbar much more likely to go to just the icon of the window and show zero text? |
22:12.08 | thiago_home | has never seen zero text |
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22:18.14 | sreich | thiago_home: well you couldn't see it of course. You would only know if you saw it if you could not see it |
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22:18.38 | thiago_home | lol |
22:18.54 | thiago_home | yes, it's very difficult to see a nothing |
22:19.01 | thiago_home | because if you see something, it's not nothing |
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22:19.37 | sreich | but if you see nothing, that does not necesarily mean you are looking at something |
22:19.44 | daum | thiago_home, http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8284/kdescreen.png |
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22:20.13 | thiago_home | daum: never seen that |
22:20.52 | daum | let me restart KDE, since it was also before doing some weird fancy effects even though they were turned off. brb. |
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22:22.40 | sreich | thiago_home: that is because you have never had a billion windows open, probably |
22:22.56 | sreich | I'm assuming that the task manager applet resorts to no-text when it is confined on space |
22:23.09 | thiago_home | maybe |
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22:26.31 | sreich | daum: persists? |
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22:26.43 | daum | not sure need more ims one sec |
22:26.52 | sreich | ims? |
22:26.53 | daum | yep |
22:26.54 | daum | lets see |
22:27.09 | sreich | and that is...? |
22:27.13 | daum | 14 items there make it happens, but it probably i just i have so many there are |
22:27.30 | daum | I don't recall if before the upgrade it did this, don't recall it happening |
22:27.35 | sreich | yes, that is an obvious observation |
22:27.48 | sreich | what else is it supposed to do when there is no space? |
22:28.07 | daum | sreich, i'm not disagreeing, was just asking if it happened quicker, i recall it not happening nearly as much |
22:28.14 | sreich | the most natural solution is to condense items, and eventually omit text |
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22:30.31 | sreich | daum: possible that it's sensitivity was increased |
22:31.13 | daum | yep no biggie just was curious |
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22:31.45 | sreich | daum: bottom line: have less windows open ;-) |
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23:03.56 | whoever | hi all, is there a way to doc gimp tool bar inside of gimp so that it will minimze and maximize with the image being edited |
23:06.00 | szal | whoever: this is #kde, not #gimp |
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23:07.44 | whoever | szal: they don't know kde thire so i came here |
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23:09.08 | szal | well, Gimp is a Gtk app, so, as I understand it, KDE shouldn't have to do much w/ it besides applying window decoration |
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23:13.21 | whoever | szal: correect but by now i figured thier might be some one else other than that wanted gimp to behage a slghtly differint way inkde .. |
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23:49.50 | MrTopic | Hello. Does anybody use Knode? |
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23:52.44 | Torch | MrTopic: sure. what's your question? |
23:53.47 | MrTopic | Well. I cannot copy posts to my personal folders. I don't know whether it's a bug. |
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23:55.58 | MrTopic | I am using version 0.99.01. Do you have the same problem? |