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00:22.12kushou_is there any chess game in KDE ?
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01:05.54*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.1 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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01:11.59Digital-PioneerSo what exactly does ~/.fishsrv.pl do? :P
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01:15.26NewWorldDigital-Pioneer:  Put it on pastebin so someone can examine
01:18.29Digital-Pioneerhttp://pastebin.com/SpAp3LAW
01:18.34Digital-PioneerIt's pretty nasty. :P
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01:25.08sreichoh my eyes..
01:25.20sreichwould gladly...100 fold, take C++ over that any day
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02:30.55NewWorldDigital-Pioneer:  What?! No indentation?!
02:31.48amason_jeebus no wonder they call perl a write only language
02:32.25sreichhaha, write once, read never ;-)
02:32.40sreichor "write once, read nowhere"
02:34.21amason_I think the whole function(){ my $foo = $_1; ) discourages breaking up the code into seperate functions
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06:31.27freeakshi there i'd like to know if it's possible to hide dolphin's columns header view in list view ?
06:32.07freeakscolumn header where it reads "name    size    date .....
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06:37.34MetalDustI'm not running it but i found this,   View: > > Show Details-> Hide (name of column that is shown)
06:37.37MetalDustso i could be wrong.
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06:38.36freeaksMetalDust, tnx for the reply but there's no such menu item
06:38.56freeaksin view menu, there's no "Show details"
06:39.14MetalDustyeah i tired.
06:39.36jlindsayRight click the bar with the column names. You can remove all but the Name it seems.
06:39.42freeaksand i can't spot anything that would hide columns headers
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06:40.25freeaksjlindsay, i do not want to show or hide more columns, i would like to just hide the column header itself
06:41.23jlindsayAh, never seen that option anywhere
06:41.35freeakstoo bad :/
06:41.47freeaksthanks for trying and help anyway
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07:10.43MaikBHey guys and gals.
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07:16.30MaikBAt the Linux Action Show it was said, that kde has a share of 33% and falling (from 66% before ubuntu appeared).  Note: this doesn't mean there are fewer kde users in total!  What would be interesting is what Linux users use after a year or so,  However, after trying gnome on my arch linux box I wonder why this is. My experience is, that kde's desktop effects are much slicker that what gnome does and it much easier to configure.
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07:18.55MaikBWhy do you ppl think kde is, what I hear often in podcasts, an unstable toys DE?
07:19.11MaikB* is said to be
07:19.18MaikBIt is not, of course
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07:24.05MaikBno one?
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07:27.46gdebureMaikB: you are most likely surrounded by KDE users in a #kde channel, so I'm sure most of them agree with your point of view ;)
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07:28.42KoliaMaikB: KDE is moving fast, and most people using it wants the bleeding edge
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07:29.00Koliaso they sometimes use "instable" packages (like backports in Kubuntu)
07:29.04MaikBgdebure: Well, I'm not a fan boy and I think there are reasons why gnome has overtaken kde and others are closing (xfce lxde)
07:29.15Koliaand then they complain.
07:30.03MaikBKolia: I think you're hit an important point here.  If development is meant to go fast, it is important to release early and often
07:30.52MaikBBut this leaves inexperienced users behind.  Users that might get experienced enough to help kde.
07:33.09MaikBI.e. the indexing service is potentially an awesome feature. It is activated by default.  But it slows down kde in the first hours, exactly the moment when new users are tinkering around.
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07:35.01MaikBIt is a tricky problem.
07:36.53MaikBI just wondered if some of you have some (constructive) thoughts on this. :)
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07:40.03jellyHi, I've added a custom protocol handler in ~/.kde/share/services/; how do I make Konqueror 4.3.4 (Debian testing) know about it without restarting the complete session?
07:41.37MaikBjelly: I think kbuildsycoca4 is what you want
07:42.37jellyMaikB: thanks, the man page suggests so, I'll try that
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07:45.09jellyhpmh, still "protocol not supported"
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07:48.55MaikBjelly: hm, I am not sure whether share/service is the right dir
07:49.18MaikBjelly: On my distro, its share/kde4/services
07:49.28jellyMaikB: system protocols are in /usr/share/services/telnet.protocol
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07:49.49MaikBjelly: maybe `find .kde|grep service' gives you some idea
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07:50.34jellyeh, there's a .kde/share/kde4/services/ as well
07:51.20jellyah, that's better. Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'env WINEPREFIX="/home/jelly/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\reLiveQt\reLiveQt.exe" "%u"'.
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07:51.40MaikBdoes someone know how to let kbuildsycoca4 the directories it searches?
07:51.47MaikBthis would be very helpful
07:52.17jellynow I merely have to figure out the correct escaping syntax for .protocol files
07:52.29MaikBjelly: no idea about this :)
07:53.08jellyyour suggestion solved the protocol undefined issue
07:53.37MaikByw :)
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07:55.36lazniis there a way to save a nepomuk query as a directory accessible to non-nepomuk-enabled programs? ala nepomuk+fuse
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07:56.12jellyalso, there's arguably a bug in Konqueror's error page wrt redirections to a different protocol, it says "URL: http://goto.re-live.se/relive:track:1:9:db Protocol: http" while the actual issue is with the protocol and page this URL redirects to
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07:59.03MaikBfor the record:
07:59.06MaikBmaik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --install services
07:59.06MaikB/usr/share/kde4/services/
07:59.06MaikBmaik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --localprefix
07:59.06MaikB/home/maik/.kde4/
07:59.06MaikBmaik@myhost .../Platinum-1.0.0-tr1/bin/.svn/prop-base % kde4-config --prefix
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08:00.53MaikBWas I blocked for pasting?
08:00.59MaikBmeh
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08:02.06MaikBok, one more time: kde4-config --types how kde names stuff
08:02.33MaikBamong them is `services'
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08:03.00MaikBkde-config --install services tells where to put services on the system
08:03.55MaikBkde4-config --prefix tells the system prefix, while kde4-config --localprefix tells the location in $HOME
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08:05.27MaikBreplacing the results of kde4-config --prefix with the result of kde4-config --localprefix in the result of kde4-config --install services tells one where to put user specific services
08:05.29MaikBlol
08:05.42MaikBsimple, isn't it?
08:05.44MaikB:P
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08:11.01MaikBecho `kde4-config --install services`|sed s:$(kde4-config --prefix):$(kde4-config --localprefix):g
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08:14.23jellyMaikB: yeah, but my inner pedant says: useless use of echo and ``!
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08:16.10MaikBjelly: patches are welcome :)
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08:22.16jellyMaikB: thanks, I got it working (well, almost. directly entering relive:track:1:4:1il now works, but http://goto.re-live.se/relive:track:1:4:1il which 301 redirects to the former doesn't)
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09:50.27TooTeaHello, is there any simple way to change the language of KMail message templates?
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09:55.43sredna2TooTea: you can set the language for the idendity
09:56.03sredna2i have multiple identities with different languages for that purpose :)
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09:56.22TooTeasredna2: oh, thanks...
09:56.29sredna2np :)
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11:17.14neXyonwonders when KDE will support multitouch/multiple mice
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11:40.09ademmerhi! anyone knows, how i can upload a whole wallpaper pack on kde-look.org that it works with KHotNewStuff?
11:40.29ademmerI created the package according to the KDE format in several resolutions with a descriptive .desktop file
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11:40.46ademmerbut i don't know what is the best format to upload it to kde-look.org
11:40.47annmadid yo uupload it yet?
11:40.58annmatar.gz
11:41.04ademmera tar.gz. file would not work with the KHotNewStuff wallpaper thing?
11:41.07annmait'll be unpacked by KHNS
11:41.13annmait will
11:41.48ademmerannma: ah, cool! the .tar.gz should itself contain a folder with the wallpaper pack name and below the structure with the desktop file etc?
11:42.25annmaademmer: no idea, you must look wallpapers that work
11:43.11annmaademmer: when you upload it, I can test it
11:43.15ademmerannma: i haven't found whole packs with several resolutions, that's the pity
11:43.25annmalet me look*
11:44.09ademmerannma: gimme 2 minutes
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11:45.18annmaademmer: people usually only want 1 resolution
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11:46.53ademmerannma: but i see no point in adding the wallpaper 10 times for 10 different resultions :)
11:47.06annmaas the artist
11:47.09annmabut the users do
11:47.30annmaisn't it how other artists upload their pictures?
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11:48.13ademmerannma: here is the archive I will upload for testing now: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112664/Precious_KDE.tar.gz
11:48.44annmaOK
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11:58.16ademmerannma: ok, I uploaded it: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=122402  seems like KHotNewStuff needs to refresh first
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11:58.45annmaademmer: yes, I don't know how long it takes
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11:59.40ademmerannma: let's see :)
11:59.52annmaI'll be away for 30 minutes or so and I'll look when I am back*
12:00.19annmaoh it's very nice
12:00.31annmaI like minimalist wallpapers :)
12:01.37ademmer:) *happy*
12:01.41ademmermee too
12:01.43ademmerme too
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12:40.38annmaademmer: ping
12:40.54ademmerannma: pong
12:41.14annmawhat category is your wallpaper in?
12:41.27ademmerKDE wallpaper (other)
12:41.39ademmershould i place it in a specific resolution?=
12:41.43annmafrom the KNewStuff wallpaper file I see
12:41.45annmaCategories=KDE Wallpaper 800x600,KDE Wallpaper 1024x768,KDE Wallpaper 1280x1024,KDE Wallpaper 1440x900,KDE Wallpaper 1600x1200,KDE Wallpaper 1680x1050,KDE Wallpaper 1920x1200,KDE Wallpaper 2560x1600,KDE Wallpaper (SVG)
12:41.57annmathere is no Other category
12:42.15annmais it a valid category?
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12:42.37annmathat means that currently your wallpaper cannot appear in the list
12:42.46MaharaI have some questions related to RSS Now widget; I just added a feed to it, I clicked on a link from the feed and everytime I do this I see two processes starting Firefox and Konqueror, why so? I have setup Firefox to be the default browser in the system and still Konqueror is starting and then it dies, is there a workaround to this ?
12:42.57ademmerannma: it is a valid category, but i moved it to 1920x1200 now
12:43.04ademmerlet's see if this works
12:43.25annmaOK
12:44.12MaharaBoth Firefox and Konqueror are starting at the same time and then after a while the Konqueror process is killed
12:45.19annmaMahara: run Konqueror from a terminal then
12:46.01MaharaI don't need that; the problem is that the RSS feed should open ONLY Firefox not both Konqueror and Firefox
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12:48.06ademmerannma: now it works! :)
12:48.29annmaademmer: do you have it in the wallpaper list after you install it?
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12:50.27ademmerannma: no, it was saved in ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers but only as .tar.gz, KHNS did not extract it
12:50.54annmaargh so I was wrong
12:52.27ademmerannma: so right now it is practically impossible to provide the default kde wallpaper format :)
12:53.12ademmerannma: I'll try to provide a patch which extract archives after download, ok?
12:53.41annmahow will you list the correct one in the wallpaper list?
12:54.53annmaademmer: from my Konsole output
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12:54.57annmaplasma-desktop(17878)/knewstuff (api) KNS3::Installation::installDownloadedFileAndUncompress: isarchive:  true
12:54.59annmaplasma-desktop(17878)/knewstuff (api) KNS3::Installation::installDownloadedFileAndUncompress: installing non-archive from  "http://www.linuxmag.de/kde-look.org/Precious_KDE.tar.gz"
12:55.30annmais it because it's not hosted in kdelook
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12:57.16annmaademmer: yes
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12:57.32annmahmm no as KNS finds it
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13:00.23ademmerannma: i cannot host it on kde-look.org, the quota is 750kb and the package is 2.8mb
13:01.15annmaouch
13:01.33annmacan't you try with only 2 subdirs?
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13:02.28annmaI tested KNS plasma themes recently and they were not installed when not on the server if I remember correctly
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13:05.28ademmerannma: well, the archive is fetched but not extracted
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13:06.25annmain any case it should be extracted as the KNS file mentions "Uncompress=archive"
13:09.33annmaI am trying to see where the problem is but so far nothing I installed works!
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13:10.43annmathis is pretty broken, I tried for example http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Granular+2.0+%22Wolverine%22?content=122387
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13:11.14Creapif I select in the task bar to group programs manually, how do I group them?
13:11.21Creapdrag-n-drop doesn't do anything
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13:13.42annmaademmer: OK I was looking at the 4.5 KNS file
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13:14.31annmaademmer: for 4.5 it will extract archives
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13:19.35annmaademmer: OK I have the fix
13:20.00annmajust need to add Uncompress=archive in the .knsrc file for wallpapers, will work for post 4.2
13:20.12ademmerannma: will the fix be backported for 4.4.3?
13:20.19annmayes
13:20.21ademmertoo bad 4.4.2 is just out of the door
13:20.31ademmerannma: thx
13:20.34annmateh fix is in trunk which I was looking at
13:20.42annmaand I'll commit it now in branch
13:25.48annmaademmer: I just committed the fix
13:26.01annmaI can add the other category as well
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13:26.23annmaas it makes more sense to have the archive in this category probably
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13:26.29DukeGriffinI need to run a script on kde logout but before network manager closes the network connection. .kde/shutdown seems to be too late. Any other ideas?
13:26.40ademmerannma: that was fix :)
13:26.48annmasilly me to have had Kate trunk open and not noticying
13:26.53ademmer!s/fix/quick/
13:27.14annmaI know KNS and it was a 1 liner
13:27.19annma;)
13:28.30ademmerargh, I wish the tickets that are assigned to me currently (work project) would be one-liners, too :D
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13:28.56ademmerwe are currently working on a big projectmanagement/workflow/billing/... webbased tool
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13:29.31ademmeris a PHP / MySQL / JavaScript / XHTML / CSS coder
13:29.54annmaand you are an artist as well!
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13:30.15ademmerannma: far from that! I can just handle gimp and adapt photoshop tutorials to gimp :D
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13:30.48annma;)
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13:30.54annmathat's more than I can do
13:31.07ademmeri have a little bit keen sense of design, that's all
13:31.32ademmerat least, i had some discussions with nuno and sebas about the network management plasmoid GUI
13:31.40ademmerthat's all I can contribute to KDE
13:31.52ademmerneeds to learn Qt quickly
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13:32.12annmawe need GUI people
13:32.22annmasome of our designs are awful
13:32.24ademmerI once learned C++ back in my university days but i have not found the time to get into Qt hacking. A few simple patches, that's all
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13:32.41ademmerannma: KDE 4.4 is stunningly beautiful on the most edges
13:33.18annmasome dialogs need work and also System Settings is not the best GUI in my opinion
13:33.33ademmer:)
13:33.34annmabut we're making progress, I agree
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13:35.17oxiredo_rociocate pt manelisti :)
13:35.33ademmerotswim: not that i knew a hotkey for this
13:35.38ademmerotswim: let's see...
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13:36.41ademmerotswim: [meta]+[ctrl]+[v] for VI mode and then [y],[y],[p]
13:36.43ademmer;)
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13:38.03daedaluzdunno how slowpoke I am, but after recent radeonhd & kernel update I can flawlessly enable KWin with radeonhd drivers
13:38.11otswimademmer: :(
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14:52.57FedoraUserhellooo guys
14:53.24FedoraUseris there a easy way to link virtual desktops with activites?
14:53.34FedoraUseri used perVirtualDesktopViews but it doesn't help me
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14:55.48Half-LeftFedoraUser: There is a option for that yes
14:56.12FedoraUserHalf-Left: any specific guidelines for me?
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14:56.21Half-LeftWhat KDE version?
14:56.44FedoraUserjust a sec
14:57.09EvilGuru_Are there any known performance problems with KWin + Compositing and Intel chips? As with my X4500 I get much better performance with Xrender/no compositing than with OpenGL composting (although GL is working fine)
14:57.15FedoraUserwhat package to 'rpm -q ' ?
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14:57.33Half-LeftHelp>About KDE
14:57.57FedoraUser4.4.1
14:58.18Half-Leftin that case then systemsettings>Desktop>Multiple Desktops>Different Activity for each desktop
14:58.53Half-LeftThat should do what you want
14:59.24FedoraUserfeel so stupid right now
14:59.30Maharayou shouldn't
14:59.31Half-LeftWhy?
14:59.33FedoraUserthank you Half-Left very much
14:59.43Half-Leftno worries
14:59.49Maharalearning something new is always a good thing
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14:59.58Half-Leftin 4.3 is was harder to find :p
15:00.08FedoraUserok, feel better now
15:00.09FedoraUser;)
15:00.13FedoraUserthanks again all
15:00.18Maharanobody can know everything ;)
15:00.21miasmashould this contain some instructions? http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/848
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15:00.27Half-LeftIt was tooked away in the ZUI settings on zoom out :)
15:00.46Half-Lefttucked*
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15:02.27miasmahm ?
15:02.37miasma610 reads and no content. that's pretty odd
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15:45.05underscorescan somebody help me to place my task manager on the left side of the panel (I accidently deleted it and now it is on the right)
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15:46.36PaddyMacCan someone tell me which is preferred in kde: avahin or mdnsresponder.
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15:47.57underscoresno one? <_>
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15:49.54PaddyMacI was trying to find out which should be used in kde" avahi or mdnsresponder
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16:29.36barrapontokdevelop 3.9.99 is crashing everytime i close the program, anyone else?
16:29.45barraponto(running kde 4.4.1 on archlinux)
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16:43.29annmabarraponto: pastebin crash backtrace
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16:46.20barrapontook, i will install gdb first...
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16:54.42annmaand debug packages
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17:08.33MaikBHello. Which is the place where plasmoids log error messages? Thre reason why I ask is the pastebin plasmoid stopped working for, which means it always fails to upload the clipboard content.
17:08.35MaikBthx
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17:10.07Matissehi
17:10.47Matissedo I need to allow a certain port in my router configuration to send files via kopete?
17:10.56Matissewell.. no
17:11.03Matissewrong channel
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17:11.31Matisseand the answer is "no" too...
17:11.47OxymoronHow do I change video output mode in Dragonplayer and Kaffeine?
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18:09.09djustice"Insufficient Karma" <- should i not commit .cache.bz2 files?
18:09.28djusticeor is that generated?
18:09.30djusticehmm
18:10.04annmawrong whannel djustice
18:10.07annmachannel
18:10.30djusticeannma: o. thx.
18:10.30thiago_homeand it should also tell you why it rejected
18:11.09djusticethiago_home: nope. just "Insufficient Karma: no permission to commit path: " << pathname (.cache.bz2)
18:11.30thiago_homemove to #kde-devel
18:12.36djustice:)
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18:14.50ath1I just installed KDE4. What a great piece of software. To all developers: Well done and keep up the good work.
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18:18.43annmathanks ath1
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18:30.09NakkelWhat does the KDE_MULTIHEAD variable actually do, if anything?
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18:33.07Tm_TNakkel: I do not know, never seen it in use really
18:33.14kushou_http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16920/kde-multihead-environment-variable.html
18:34.11kushou_(I don't know if this link is right)
18:35.36NakkelHmm
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18:36.40NakkelI have multihead setup but the variable is still false and KDE shows on both displays.
18:37.49kushou_Hmm
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18:39.22NakkelWhat Im trying to find is, is there any way to have one large desktop like in KDE3 used to have. Like I could set one 2560x1024 background and it would set on both displays while on KDE4 I need to split the image in two with editor and set both halves separate on both desktops/displays.
18:39.56thiago_homeno, I don't think so
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18:42.11NakkelI just want my ~1000 backgrounds back in use, with autochange. ;___;
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18:43.08thiago_homewhat's the problem?
18:43.12thiago_homeit'll be just per screen
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18:44.26NakkelYea but those are 2560x1024 and splitting over 1000 images in two isnt that much fun.
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18:47.04kushou_Nakkel: can you do a screen of what you currently get ?
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18:57.35Nakkelkushou_: Yea, sure, just a sec …
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18:59.08Nakkelkushou_: http://nakkel.pp.fi/dualskreech.jpg
18:59.44NakkelOn KDE3 the 2560 wide image would sperad on both displays.
19:00.06kushou_hmm ok I see
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19:02.12MoDaXpinotree: change the topic?
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19:02.34*** topic/#kde by pinotree -> KDE SC 4.4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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19:02.51pinotreeMoDaX: tnx :)
19:03.30kushou_Nakkel: I don't know, sorry
19:04.10kushou_may be there is something to set in the KD settings panel
19:07.36barrapontokdevelop 3.9.99 has stopped crashing once i installed gdb, can it be somehow related?
19:08.13annmaprobably ;) you can ask in your distro channel maybe
19:08.16barrapontoalso, kdevelop 3.9.99 no longer remembers working sets but the open one on restart
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19:10.11barrapontoannma: do you know of any documentation on how to use kdevelop4?
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19:11.36annmabarraponto: I used to write some for KDevelop 3 ;)
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19:11.56annmabarraponto: did you look on the kdevelop wiki and website
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19:13.48annmabarraponto: and there is #kdevelop
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19:17.30barrapontoannma: yes i looked for it on the website/wiki but they are confusing or incomplete or there isn't at all.
19:17.43annma:(
19:17.45barrapontoannma: it depends a lot on the feature i'm trying to understand.
19:18.04barrapontoannma: i'll try writing some, but i have to find out how they work...
19:18.12annmayes
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20:08.52Kenjirogood afternoon
20:08.59Kenjirohas anyone had problems compiling kdeutils?
20:09.08Kenjirothat's what i get -> http://pastebin.com/m6AvZar9
20:13.18alienBOBKenjiro: 4.4.2?
20:13.30alienBOBAh yes
20:13.50KenjiroalienBOB: yep
20:13.58alienBOBDo you have a xz package?
20:14.05KenjiroalienBOB: yep
20:14.07alienBOBHmm
20:14.14Kenjirobut let me recheck
20:14.35alienBOBWith libarchive rebuilt after that?
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20:15.39KenjiroalienBOB: any "special version" of xz required?
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20:15.54alienBOBNot that I know... I built 4.4.2 without errors
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20:26.20KenjiroalienBOB: ok, the libarchive I had installed was "too old" ;)
20:26.36Kenjironow it looks like things might fly
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20:28.00KenjiroalienBOB: thanks for the tip. well, time to pick up the kids, seeya
20:29.32baby__hi
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20:30.36srednahow is groups stored in the new addressbook?
20:31.02thiago_homein a mysql database
20:31.06srednanot in akonadi please
20:31.16srednaakonadi is too unstable for storing things!
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20:32.16thiago_homeit has never crashed for me
20:32.35GNU\colossusit never started working correctly for me ;)
20:32.37srednait can not start regularly, and sometimes it claims it failed when it did not
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20:33.27srednathe other day it refused to start at all
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20:34.01GNU\colossusit's been really flaky for me, too
20:34.02srednaand since it is not said anywhere that it actually stores things, i just deleted its DAMNED data
20:34.12GNU\colossusI decided not to bother until KDE 4.5 is ready
20:34.29srednanow i lost my groups, which are very hard to make because of the lack of category support
20:34.37srednafuck you akonadi
20:34.55srednasorry for my french
20:35.05srednabut kde pim is at its worst ever
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20:35.55thiago_homeit's working fine for me for 4.4 code
20:36.00thiago_homeI haven't upgraded to 4.5 alpha
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20:36.11srednait is working horrible for me kde 4.4.1
20:36.19bbearI think something is wrong in kate.
20:36.22srednai have dropped using unstable kde, too dangerous
20:36.54bbearWhen I open a project after moving the files into, the soft is blocking.
20:37.03bbearsredna: what is unstable ?
20:37.13srednakde is unstable
20:37.32bbearI mean, kde 4.4 is unstable, but you would use which kde ?
20:37.34bbear3.5 ?
20:37.37srednano printing, no functional addressbook
20:37.52sredna3.5 is probably the most stable version of kde so far, but it is a bit outdated
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20:38.20bbearsredna: sometimes I wonder if kde is not adding magic stuff et become a bit too bloaty.
20:38.28bbearBut I trust the kde devs.
20:38.32srednai dont
20:38.48srednaat least not today
20:39.26srednatoday i have to waste another hour restoring data because of regressions and unstablility in kde 4.4
20:39.37srednahappy easter
20:39.43bbearsredna: what is the distribution you're using ?
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20:42.58srednanow i cant even add a group
20:44.10srednaMaybe it is like windows, reboot to apply
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20:44.54srednayes
20:45.03szalbbear: why is 4.4 unstable?
20:45.03srednaexcept all the members were lost in the process
20:46.04bbearI dont know ask to dev
20:46.42bbearszal: It's the development team whom has a quality test environment.
20:46.59bbearSo far, I dont use kde but fluxbox, neither konqueror.
20:47.01srednakde 4.4 is supposedly stable
20:47.04bbearToo many crash.
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20:47.27bbearand kde has a problem with the display on my working computer
20:49.36bbearand composite manager or something like that.
20:49.37bbearthe experience told me to not use kde. Why I got crash, I dont know, maybe its qt, or C++ widely based environment, but it's like that.
20:49.38bbearI use kmail because it's a smart mail client
20:52.19srednathiago_home: can you create a group in kaddressbook?
20:52.35srednawhen i do, it does not become visible
20:52.55srednauntil after i restart kaddressbook (by restarting kontact in my case)
20:53.10thiago_homesredna: never tried
20:54.03srednanow i can, just before i could not
20:54.10srednai can have two groups of the same name
20:54.37srednanow say it is stable
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20:56.03srednaand next time akonadi refuses to start, i have to try and figure out what to delete but keep the database and hope that it will reuse that?
20:56.17srednausing akonadi does not feel safe!
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21:05.10sredna2why doesn't the addressbook use marble for setting location data?
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21:14.38xenoterracideit doesn't seem that long ago is 4.4.1 awesome
21:15.28danttiwhat do I need to change for kate keep open different windows (4.4.2)?
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21:16.41sredna2dantti: i do not understand the question
21:17.24danttisredna2: I click on a file on dolphin and one kate is opened , then I click on another and the other file goes to the kate already opened..
21:18.26danttiI'd like to keep having several windows cause I open one window for each project I'm developing...
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21:27.45sredna2dantti: check what the command is for kate in the kde application configuration
21:27.57sredna2dantti: if it has -u or --use in it, remove that
21:28.00danttikate -b -U%
21:28.39danttioops kate -b %U
21:28.40sredna2ah, the -b
21:28.48sredna2try removing the -b
21:28.53danttik
21:29.47danttisredna2: nah.. same problem..
21:30.07sredna2dantti: alternatively, you can start a session using "kate -s mysession"
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21:30.35sredna2dantti: mayeb your distro did something bad to kate
21:31.00danttisredna2: hmm normally debian packages don't have much patches...
21:31.17sredna2debian should supposedly be fine
21:31.24danttisredna2: the behavior I described to you is still valid on your installation?
21:31.28sredna2dantti: try kate URL from konsole
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21:31.54sredna2dantti: i can not know, text files opened from dolphin will open kwrite here
21:31.57danttinah..
21:32.17sredna2i use kate by starting it explictly
21:32.27sredna2usually with a session
21:32.49sredna2starting kate with a url does not take over an existing instance
21:33.08danttihmm kate -n starts a new instance..
21:33.50danttithanks..
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21:33.55sredna2uhm, it actually do take over a running instance. that is new to me :)
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21:34.18sredna2probably by popular request, the old behavior confused a lot of people
21:34.58natmanHi is this the place to learn how to help out in the KDE world? even if i only use Kubuntu?
21:35.03sredna2opening without an url should open a new instance too, if the documentation is correct
21:35.26sredna2natman: this is a good place for that, yes :)
21:35.33sreichnatman: help out? in what area, exactly?
21:35.42sreichi.e. hacker, artist, documentation writer..
21:36.07sreichnatman: (see http://www.kde.org/community/getinvolved/)
21:36.37danttisredna2: yup, when you are working on just one project at time it's good to open on the same session otherwise it's not cool :P
21:36.59natmansredna2: sreichi: know very little coding, but am willing to do monkey work what ever that may be just wanna help out, i am a mathematician is that is of any use?
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21:37.34sredna2dantti: i absolutely agree, i mostly use sessions and i do not like random files to be opened in my kate windows
21:37.49sredna2which is why i use kwrite as the default for text files
21:38.02sreichnatman: not particularly
21:38.20natmansreich: :(
21:38.45sreichnatman: read the page I gave you, and you should be able to find what you can help out with..
21:38.54sredna2natman: maybe documentation writing would be an option? You could ask the kdeedu folks if they need help with one of the math apps :)
21:39.16danttisredna2: i see, well I don't use sessions (maybe i should start using), so when I go to another project I start a new "session" and from that on I open  the files using the embeded file browser.. :P
21:39.25natmansredna2: ok thanks will do
21:39.34sreichsredna2: natman: or if you can learn to code..you can code for the math apps
21:39.46sreichfor example, KAlgebra and/or speedcrunch needs a lot of help imo
21:39.55natmansredna2: Is the C++ the way to go?
21:40.09sredna2dantti: sessions allows you to save the configuration (at least the file list, i believe there is a regression with the plugin configuration atm)
21:40.27sreichnatman: yes
21:40.43sredna2natman: if you can code c++ that is very good for helping with kde :)
21:40.46danttisredna2: hmm I see I'll try to use that :) thanks
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21:56.12sredna2when konqueror looses contact to its history, what went wrong?
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21:57.17daedaluzcorrect if I'm wrong, but didn't Qt4 have Python3 layer?
21:57.48thiago_homedaedaluz: no
21:57.54thiago_homebut PyQt4 is a Python layer
21:58.28daedaluzso that enables me to make native Qt4 apps in python?
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21:58.46nailuj24daedaluz: that's right
21:59.10daedaluzyay, no need for C++
21:59.33thiago_homedidn't say anything about Python 3
22:01.57nailuj24daedaluz: the bindings target python 2.x though
22:02.29daedaluzwell, that's not a catastrophe. I'm sure Nokia catches up
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22:04.21nailuj24daedaluz: they have a good API reference at http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro
22:04.51daedaluzI'm actually checking it out right now. my google-fu is not weak. ;)
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22:11.32daumhey guys in kde4.4 is it just me or is the taskbar much more likely to go to just the icon of the window and show zero text?
22:12.08thiago_homehas never seen zero text
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22:18.14sreichthiago_home: well you couldn't see it of course. You would  only know if you saw it if you could not see it
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22:18.38thiago_homelol
22:18.54thiago_homeyes, it's very difficult to see a nothing
22:19.01thiago_homebecause if you see something, it's not nothing
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22:19.37sreichbut if you see nothing, that does not necesarily mean you are looking at something
22:19.44daumthiago_home, http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8284/kdescreen.png
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22:20.13thiago_homedaum: never seen that
22:20.52daumlet me restart KDE, since it was also before doing some weird fancy effects even though they were turned off. brb.
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22:22.40sreichthiago_home: that is because you have never had a billion windows open, probably
22:22.56sreichI'm assuming that the task manager applet resorts to no-text when it is confined on space
22:23.09thiago_homemaybe
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22:26.31sreichdaum: persists?
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22:26.43daumnot sure need more ims one sec
22:26.52sreichims?
22:26.53daumyep
22:26.54daumlets see
22:27.09sreichand that is...?
22:27.13daum14 items there make it happens, but it probably i just i have so many there are
22:27.30daumI don't recall if before the upgrade it did this, don't recall it happening
22:27.35sreichyes, that is an obvious observation
22:27.48sreichwhat else is it supposed to do when there is no space?
22:28.07daumsreich, i'm not disagreeing, was just asking if it happened quicker, i recall it not happening nearly as much
22:28.14sreichthe most natural solution is to condense items, and eventually omit text
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22:30.31sreichdaum: possible that it's sensitivity was increased
22:31.13daumyep no biggie just was curious
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22:31.45sreichdaum: bottom line: have less windows open ;-)
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23:03.56whoeverhi all, is there a way to doc gimp tool bar inside of gimp so that it will minimze and maximize with the image being edited
23:06.00szalwhoever: this is #kde, not #gimp
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23:07.44whoeverszal: they don't know kde thire so i came here
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23:09.08szalwell, Gimp is a Gtk app, so, as I understand it, KDE shouldn't have to do much w/ it besides applying window decoration
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23:13.21whoeverszal: correect but by now i figured thier might be some one else other than that wanted gimp to behage a slghtly differint way inkde ..
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23:49.50MrTopicHello. Does anybody use Knode?
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23:52.44TorchMrTopic: sure. what's your question?
23:53.47MrTopicWell. I cannot copy posts to my personal folders. I don't know whether it's a bug.
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23:55.58MrTopicI am using version 0.99.01. Do you have the same problem?

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