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00:25.00proprietarysuckswhat's the chat client called in kde? which allows for xmpp, yahoo, etc
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00:26.47tsimpsonproprietarysucks: kopete
00:29.11kylecareyi have a question concerning smb4k, could this channel help with solving it?
00:30.05proprietarysucksahh yeah thanks
00:32.19kylecareyi guess not, could anyone direct me to a channel that i would have more luck with a question on this nature?
00:34.31sreichkylecarey: this is likely the most fitting channel. however, it isn't an official kde app, so don't have high hopes..
00:34.48sreich(i.e. I assume not many have used it)
00:35.22kylecareysreich: alright then ill try anyways...
00:35.37kylecareyits kinda a funny question though
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00:39.08capitanwhen using kwin with gnome... Lots of keystrokes don't work right (e.g. f5, alt-f4...)... Rather than doing what I think they should, they just move my mouse to the top-left corner... anyone know why and how to make it behave the way i'd like?
00:42.11kylecareyive been writing a fluxbox menu using a kde menu as a reference, im not having *many* problems but one i am having is with smb4k. i entered my entry into my flux menu file: [exec] (Smb4k) {/opt/kde3/bin/smb4k} which is the proper path but when i click the link in the flux menu i get a smb4k error that says: "Either your PATH enviroment variable is not set properly or there are the following programs missing on your system: smb4k_mount, smb4k
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00:46.23kylecareyi know those programs are installed, i dont understand how to set the
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00:56.10mmercerhey guys, anyone know if Sho_ has added a way to run multiple instances of yakuake yet ? =D
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01:09.09proprietarysuckswhere can I find 'kate' in kde 4? I don't see anything obvious in yum repo and typing kate doesn't work in console
01:09.35sreichit's probably not installed then
01:09.40sreichgo to your distro's channel
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01:22.32damentzhello everyone
01:22.41damentzare you all aware of a memory leak in kde4?
01:23.02damentzaaron from nvidia noticed that KDE4 leaks memory when you rapidly change focus of the application
01:23.04damentzhttp://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=143220
01:30.58damentzsomeone, please take a look at that post, apparently createPixmap is launched everytime you change focus under kwin
01:31.21damentzwhatever is causing the video memory leak might be the cause of low performance in kde4
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01:55.39proprietarysuckswhere is the screen saver setting to enable password.. in fact where is the screen saver configuration page?
01:59.07DaZdisplay? :f
01:59.15DaZdesktop*
02:00.11proprietarysucksthanks
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02:07.22VasisthaI'd like to fill out pdf forms. Does anyone know if this is possible in linux? pdftk is old and does not support some newer pdf files
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03:14.20pawan_can anybody pls tell me how to configure printer in fedora 12 kde / gnome
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03:29.52thefedorabughmm
03:30.00thefedorabugnobody is chatting around here
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04:01.16Maceris there a way to get kmail to place sent msgs into an imap folder instead of on the local one?
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04:03.12hagabakaMacer: Configure - modify an identity - Advanced - Sent-mail folder
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04:04.21Macerawesome. thanks. missed that ;)
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04:06.21hagabakaI haven't tried it with IMAP folders actually
04:10.02Maceri'm about to ;)
04:10.07Macerseems like it should work
04:10.10Macerthe trash folder too
04:10.21Maceri know this may sound silly but is there anything similar to roaming profiles for kde?
04:10.42Maceri mean is there a way to set up a kde based pdc or something? :)
04:11.32Maceror at the very least some sort of way where settings for apps made for kde (kopete, kmail, konqueror, etc) can share the same settings universally somehow?
04:12.36hagabakathey can share passwords using kwallet, maybe proxy settings, and of course file associations, GUI style, etc
04:12.48hagabakawhat setting are you trying to share?
04:13.18hagabakaor do you mean letting different users share the same settings?
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04:30.42Macerno
04:30.52Maceri mean letting the same user have the same settings on multiple workstations
04:31.15normaldotcomAfter allowing widgets on my screensaver and clicking "configure widgets", my screensaver pops up with the cashew and menu in the upper right-hand corner, but I can't click any of the options, or collapse the cashew's menu.
04:31.21Macermeaning if the user logs into another workstation they don't have to configure kmail or kopete on it.. they simply have universal settings across the network
04:31.53Macerand is there also a way to get kde to config the wifi before logging in?
04:32.07Maceror do i have to simply set up wpasupplicant in kubuntu manually ?
04:32.27Macerin order to avoid using the wifi applet
04:33.25Macersorry.. but i never really saw anything related to doing this with kde.. even though kde is simply a DE
04:34.03Maceri'm sure most of my questions are probably more dependent of the OS KDE is using... sure wish there were opensolaris pkgs for kde 4.x :) that would really be awesome
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04:37.57pawan_can anybody  tell me how can I get the source code for some of the apps like games or edu tools of fedora 12
04:42.41normaldotcomhmm, only keyboard input works on the screensaver when configuring widgets... and adding a widget via keyboard isn't too easy/possible
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05:58.44phoenix_i have some problem starting the akonadi server, can anyone help me
05:59.36geo27phoenix_: Hello ! I'm not really sure to be fully abble to help you, but give more details.
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06:00.23phoenix_geo27: akonadi self test saya that no resource agents found
06:01.35phoenix_geo27:
06:01.42phoenix_geo27: http://pastebin.com/NPsBXuqA
06:02.51geo27phoenix_: seems to be the same problem as http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=86065
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06:03.51geo27At least the TEXT #4 error.
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06:10.51PapaPitufohow do I find the path to kde? I am trying to install an application that requieres a customized install, and I'm supposed to tell it what the path to kde4 is. Usually it has been /opt/kde4, but that is not true in Mandriva 2010. What is the path to KDE?
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06:11.14Yungahi
06:11.57PapaPitufohey
06:12.04geo27PapaPitufo: try " type startkde", and what the shells answer should be the path where kde has been installed.
06:12.33PapaPitufothankyou
06:13.52phoenix_geo27: the command "mysql_install_db" does not exist, iam a kubuntu user
06:14.20geo27phoenix_: well... Do you have mysql installed ?
06:14.53phoenix_geo27: dont know
06:15.18phoenix_geo27: is there a way to check it
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06:16.29geo27phoenix_: maybe, I only have one machine on kubuntu and I don't know this distro much. This must be some option to pass to apt probably. Give me a few minutes to check it.
06:17.04phoenix_geo27: ok
06:18.00phoenix_geo27: i found that mysql is not installed, i am installing it
06:18.19geo27phoenix_: ak, you where faster than me...
06:18.47phoenix_geo27: just used the apt-get install
06:19.37geo27phoenix_:  Oh... Well. I found on my way that aptitude search mysql could give you an answer also... And a less brutal one.
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06:20.12jstarhi, is there a way to display widget on several activities ?
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06:20.42jstarIn a similar way as the windows "On all desktop"
06:21.15phoenix_geo27: in the install process it is giving me an option to set root user password, should i set or just leave it blank
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06:21.44geo27phoenix_: for security reasons, set one...
06:21.52phoenix_geo27: ok
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06:23.05inanimateWith the new Google Calendar Akonadi plugin, is it possible to support multiple calendars?
06:23.30inanimateSo for example, if one Google account has created multiple calendars, can you load up more than just the default one in Kontact?
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06:26.07phoenix_geo27: i am not able to send mail from kmail
06:26.29geo27phoenix_: is your smtp server set correctly ?
06:29.14phoenix_geo27: i have configured smtp correctly, check with telnet and i am getting response
06:29.39phoenix_geo27: but not able to send mail. i am able receive mail
06:30.40geo27phoenix_: do you get any error message ?
06:31.18phoenix_geo27: no, just the messages remain in the outbox
06:32.30geo27phoenix_: not sure about that, but it doesn't cost much to give it a try : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1324460
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06:36.29jstar-taiwanhittudiv, is there a way to display desktop widget on all desktop/activities like it's available for windows ?
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06:37.21hittudivdid you seperate desktop activities?
06:37.46hittudivjstar-taiwan, the widgets on my desktop are shown on every screen
06:38.39jstar-taiwanhittudiv, yeah I did cause I want differents wallpapers
06:40.34hittudivnot sure
06:40.59hittudivuse some third party tool, if you want seperate wall papers on diff screens
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06:44.12phoenix_hittudiv: no need for third party tools, you can zoom out and select diffrent desktop with different wallpaper
06:47.08jstar-taiwanphoenix_, with one activity ?
06:48.42phoenix_on top right of the desktop there is a panel option, in that press the zoom out
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07:00.03phoenix_geo27: thanks a lot
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07:00.44geo27phoenix_: So it solved your problem. At least, I wouldn't have wasted my time over here. Pleased to have been abble to help you.
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07:01.21phoenix_geo27: the kmail problem is not solved
07:02.03phoenix_geo27: i tried all thing, no use
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07:02.42geo27phoenix_: oh... Well, it could come from many a "not kmail" problem. So far, you need to use the smtp of your provider, and you sometime need to be in the same domain. Has it ever worked ?
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07:03.34phoenix_geo27: what do you mean by same domain
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07:04.57geo27phoenix_: well. For example, if your isp is plop.com, your machine needs to have a name against this domain (mymachine.plop.com). That's how I set up my postfix for example, so as to be sure that it can't be used to forward spams. But I can be wrong.
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07:06.10geo27sometimes, isp just check that the ip of your machine is on one of their networks, sometime they check both (ip and domain).
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07:10.26phoenix_geo27: thanks for the help geo. i have to go now.bye
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07:13.27geo27phoenix_: you're welcome.
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07:24.18coleI have a linux installation without and gui interface. How could I install kde with least effort?
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08:23.44H123Hey there
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08:24.17H123anybody knows where I can find the equivalent to ~/.kde4/share/apps/kjots in Windows installation?
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08:25.39urkudH123: ask on #kde-windows
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08:28.17d3xH123, c:\documents and settings\<username>\application data
08:28.20d3xor something like that
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08:28.38H123got it, yes I was already thinking something like that
08:28.46H123d3x: ty :)
08:28.58d3xnp
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08:53.03cojackhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233704
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08:54.17annmacojack: ???
08:54.21annmawhat is the bug?
08:54.35annmathe wish I mean
08:55.09cojackannma: Inspect Element for Konqueror
08:55.29annmawhat is inspaect element
08:55.33annmainspect
08:55.39annmado yo uhave a spec for it
08:55.41cojackdid you read it at all?
08:55.53annmayes and it's pretty confusing
08:56.04annmayou refer to firebug
08:56.07cojackannma: do you know plugin firebug for firefox?
08:56.20cojackannma: exactly
08:56.22annmaso I am asking; what is the spec for Inspect
08:56.36annmadevelopers need implementation specs
08:57.03annmaif yo uwant to be taken seriously you should provide a link to this
08:57.16cojackto what?
08:57.20cojackto firebug?
08:57.29annmato specs to this Inspect feature
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08:57.49annmaInspect Element, is there a spec for it
08:57.53cojackdude, If I will have free time, I will write it by my self
08:58.01annmasure
08:58.05annmaand I'm no dude
08:58.22annmaI want to help you so don't "free time" me
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08:58.49cojackbut my firs idea it was not include into open source community
08:58.51annmaI am asking if this Inspect Element is something common to browsers
08:59.09annmaor is it only some Firefox thing
08:59.38cojackannma: other browers based on qtwebkit have those inspec element of dom tree
08:59.49annma"
08:59.50annmaBut we need (better will
08:59.52annmabe when I will write I need) some developers tools, like inspect element.
08:59.59annmaso where do they get this
09:00.14cojackI don't understand you
09:00.25annmawhat is this inspect element
09:00.51annmafrom a developer point of view, is there a common API or spec it is based on?
09:01.16cojackannma: if you are a dev, it's your chose how do you will write it
09:01.26cojackand implement it by your self
09:01.47cojackI realy don't care how you implement this
09:01.59cojackopen source code is one big shit of code
09:02.00annmabah
09:02.05annmayup sure
09:02.39annmaI'll quote that in the bug report
09:03.06cojackno one respect the standards in the code
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09:03.27lxsameerhow can i setup kde to use sock5 proxy
09:03.29tuxickhaha
09:03.30cojackthey write it how they like
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09:04.27annmalxsameer: did you try SystemSettings?
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09:04.44lxsameerannma: there is no option for socks5
09:05.07annmaunfortunately I don't know socks5 :(
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09:05.17annmatried google or forums?
09:05.48d3xcojack, yeah, sure... ever seen rules you need to follow to get your stuff merged into any serious OS project?
09:05.49cojackannma: don't forget to include part of our conversation about standards of code
09:06.01annmasure cojack, have a nice day
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09:06.41dinth_what do you talking about ?
09:07.01cojackd3x: I allways have to fallow standard imposed by leader project, in all of project
09:07.47d3xcojack, and you still "write how you like"?
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09:08.14cojackd3x: not me
09:08.49dinth_Firebug or webkit inspect element dont any "specs" like "what inspect element should have..."
09:09.04cojackin os some one write some path, you include it, check it, works? work. okey next please
09:09.08dinth_they became standards itself
09:09.55alibabaHello, I have a strange problem with my openSuSE 11.1 PC (KDE 3.5.10 "release 21.12.1").  It switches the sound level to a lower setting during "screen saving" I moved once the mouse immediately when I heared the related chime and could see a message on top of screen that the screen will be locked...  The screen doesn't get locked (I disabled that), but I want that the sound is not changed. What is wrong here?  Can somebody, please, help?
09:10.09cojackit was wrong idea to join this chanell
09:10.11cojackbye
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09:11.01annmaalibaba: KDE 3.5 is pretty old...
09:11.35annmadinth_: so what is this inspect element?
09:11.35alibabaI know, but I prefer it, it is absolutely stable.
09:11.50annmaalibaba: try asking in OpenSuse channel then please
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09:12.50annmadinth_: that was all Iasked, "what is it" in order to make the wish report more efficient
09:12.53alibabaI feel like a ping-pong ball...    #opensuse <-- me --> #kde
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09:13.17annmaalibaba: if they send you to #kde tell them we don't have 3.5 anymore
09:14.00annmaalibaba: if it's a KDE bug then we won't fix it
09:14.26szalalibaba: you'll pretty much have the same problem everywhere except in Debian..  KDE 3 is dead
09:14.49alibabaOk. I did an upgrade to 11.1 from a much older version. Therefore the 3.x version was kept. Can you ensure me that I can change to KDE 4 without any problems?
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09:15.04annmadinth_: can you talk?
09:15.20annmaalibaba: what do you use in kde
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09:15.58annmaalibaba: how is your desktop customized and what apps do you use?
09:16.00alibabaOpenOffice, kmail (the old one), a lot of applications
09:16.08annmaopenoffice is not kde
09:16.19annmawhat about the desktop, how do you customize it
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09:16.34annmakmail is the same and yo ucan import mails
09:17.11annmathe desktop changed so you won't import your settings that's why I ask how heavily you customized it
09:17.16alibabaI don't think there will be programs I will miss, but this is my workstation. It must run absolutely stable.
09:17.18szalalibaba: migrating KMail might involve a bit of manual work, but for me went flawlessly a year ago (to KDE 4.2)
09:17.33annma4.4.2 is absolutely stable
09:17.43dinth_annama
09:17.48annmaannma
09:17.50alibabaAnd how do I migrate?
09:17.56dinth_i was reading cojacks bugreport
09:17.59dinth_and commenting it
09:18.00dinth_im back
09:18.09annmagood dinth_ I'll refresh then
09:18.12alibabaThis is OpenSuSE 11.1, 64 bit
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09:18.44dinth_btw. anybody can confirm my konqueror bug : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231992 ? it should be very easy to confirm
09:18.53annmaalibaba: you first need to get KDE 4 from OpenSuse
09:18.59alibabaszal, I change to #suse
09:19.00annmawait dinth_
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09:19.22dinth_because it is very easy to repeat
09:19.47annmadinth_: you don't say what this inspect is
09:20.10annmabug reports like that are often negligted because they are not FOCUSED
09:20.38annma"I like this, don't make konq like that" are not focused
09:21.08annmahere I am only giving my thought as a KDE devel but not a konq devel
09:21.09dinth_annma: hmm my english is not so good, but i will try to write another comment, what exacly i would like to see in konquerors inspect element feature
09:21.21annmaso if it is evident please excuse my ignorance
09:21.23dinth_is it ok ?
09:21.33annmayes that's it
09:21.49annmaotherwise no sane devel wants to waste time on this
09:23.04annmalet me look at your bug report now
09:23.39annmaI run Konqueror
09:23.46annmawhat is the next step?
09:23.58annmasay I load kde.org
09:24.47annmasay I open the search bar 'ctrl F) and I search for "release"
09:25.04annmadinth_: then what is the next move?
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09:25.19annmaif I open a new tab I get no search bar
09:25.33dinth_annma: you must open website on which are more pages (like google.com search results) and search for keyword which is on for example third page
09:26.05Spyrohelp kdenlive is not reconsing audeo on .mp4 videos
09:26.09annmahmm how to do that
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09:26.20annmadinth_: give a practical example please
09:26.35dinth_you press ctrl+f, type keyword - no results on first page, then click on second page link, click "search" - no results, you click to third page - and still no search result - but it should be on third page
09:26.46annmagive an example
09:26.53Spyrocan anyone help me
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09:27.01annmaI can't think of such a test right now
09:27.19annmaSpyro: scan kdenlive bug reports and try google as well
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09:28.07dinth_annma:  please wait i while, i will try to find some practical test (google.com isnt good, because your results will differ from my by geolocation)
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09:28.14annmaI don't see why you search on google then use the search from konq dinth_
09:28.27annmausually what you search on google comes on the first page
09:28.41annmaI never had this use case
09:28.46Spyrowheres the kdenlive bug reports
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09:29.21Spyroannma: wheres the kdenlive bug reports
09:29.51dinth_ok. for example you want to search for "Celia Cruz" torrent in newest torrents on thepiratebay.com
09:29.56annmagoogles for kdenlive
09:29.59dinth_you go to http://thepiratebay.org/recent
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09:30.09annmaas far as I know Spyro kdenlive is an external KDE app
09:30.35dinth_you press ctrl+f and type Celia Cruz in search dialog
09:30.36annmawouldn't you use the website search facility dinth_
09:31.04annmabecause totrrents sometimes have weird names
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09:31.22dinth_thats is only example - many pages dont have search facilitys. but i want to demonstrate you bug in konqueror search
09:31.24annmaSpyro: http://www.kdenlive.org/ has forums
09:31.25Spyroannma: yep it is could it be the fict that i have fedora 12 on the machine i'm using it on using a gnome desxtop envoroment
09:31.54annmawhat is gnome?
09:31.57annma;)
09:31.59annmasorry
09:32.13dinth_annma: so you go to http://thepiratebay.org/recent, press ctrl+f, type Celia Cruz... no results on first page, so you go to bottom of page and press "Next"....
09:32.15annmadinth_: so add this example to your bug report
09:32.28annmaso that people can repeat it
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09:33.01dinth_and now you _have_ "Celia Cruz" in search bar, press Search next on search bar, but no result ... and there IS one on second page
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09:33.21annmapersonally I find this a non use case as I would use the website search facility instead
09:34.03annmait never crossed my mind to search recent torrents with the browser search
09:34.39dinth_annma: but lets say, i want to find "Celia Cruz" in newest torrents, from last 5 days
09:34.40annmait always crosses my mind to use the website search especially as on piratebay it'll give you the best seeded torrent
09:34.56annmawhat is the newest torrent?
09:34.57dinth_so im not using search which is limited, but try to search on my own in last torrents
09:35.08annmanewest in time?
09:35.27annmais not always newest in release
09:35.55annmaanyway just to say that it's not a valid use case for me
09:37.14dinth_i think that would be lot easier to imagine that thepiratebay.com dont have search engine, than searching for completly static webiste without search engine, which is paged and have any information on second page, but not on first
09:37.20annmaI don't say there's no bug, I am only saying it's pretty low and I would not use search like this
09:37.44annmaif there's a second page then there's a search on the website
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09:40.24dinth_ok i will try once again :)
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09:43.05dinth_you want to find some information about Optiarc DVD-RW drive and udev on Archlinux Forums. you use forums search engine, but it results full thread about udev - http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=78946 , and you want to find, where information about your Optiarc drive beggins
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09:44.10dinth_so you enter this thread, press ctrl+f, write "Optiarc"... no results on first page... so you go to threads second page, and repeat konqueror searching... konqueror gives still no results on second page, but they are there
09:45.26annmahmmm
09:45.42annmahow should konq react then?
09:46.41Spyrosorry to go of subject but is there a offtopic channel
09:46.46annmashould it highlight the first occurence at once?
09:47.05dinth_when you enter second page, with "Optiarc" keyword typed in konqs search bar, and press on searchbar "Next" button, it should find "Optiarc" keyword
09:47.21dinth_but it behaves like nothing would be typed in search bar
09:47.23annmadinth_: you need first to give this forum example in your bug report then write what you expect
09:47.25Spyroanyon
09:47.39annmadinth_: I hear you but what do YOU expect
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09:48.02annmado you expect (as I said) that the first Optiarc will be highlighted?
09:48.04annmaor what
09:48.05Spyrosorry to go of subject but is there a offtopic channel
09:48.31annmaSpyro: if you read the channel topic instead of annoying us
09:48.42annmathanks
09:48.46dinth_i expect highlighting first occurence of "optiarc" keyword, after pressing searchbars "Next" button, with keyword typed in, on second page
09:49.16annmaso write this is the bug report along with the forum example
09:49.16Spyrooh silly me
09:49.24dinth_ok
09:49.26dinth_thanks
09:49.49Spyroand sorry for being annoying
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09:50.09annmadinth_: if the devels do not know what you expected they won't care, thinking like me that you can just be use the website search better
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09:54.30dinth_annama: is it good now https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=231992 ?
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10:05.27olorin_Turning on Regular expression nails the first hits.
10:06.31olorin_In 4.3.5, but I can't see how that have changed dramatically.
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10:12.12Spyrowell i've had a look but have had no joy finding any solutions on kdenlive furums
10:12.25vizzyhi, i use kde 3.5 on my debian lenny on a laptop. yesterday i had a small crash, destroying almost all of my kde settings. i made a backup some day before. what are the relevant files for configuring the panels? i dont need all settings, just the panels are lost
10:14.59enthusHi all..just now i runned "sudo apt-get upgrade khangman" in my ubuntu9.10 and got this "KHangMan Version 2.2 Using KDE Development Platform 4.4.2 (KDE 4.4.2)" in Khangman --> help -->About KHangman. What does this mean??
10:16.20enthusenthus: can i run kahngman4.4 from source now??
10:17.05Moggerenthus: it means that you're using the 2.2 version of KHangMan
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10:18.43Moggerenthus: if you installed it through apt-get, you've installed a binary package
10:18.44enthusMogger: yes..but i have the platform of kde4.4..so can i run the kahngman4.4 now in my lap??
10:18.50Spyroso what di  i do now
10:19.09enthusMogger: before upgrading i have installed khangman through synaptic package manager..
10:19.54Spyroaanyone
10:20.02enthusMogger: and now i want to run the latest version of khangman..
10:20.04cireThe kde4 plasmoid "systemmonitor - processors" doessn't show any processors, here. Also in settings, there are no cores. What am I doing wrong?
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10:21.33Moggerenthus: not sure if khangman uses the same version system as kdelibs, but yes, you should be able to use the latest release of khangman
10:21.33annmaenthus: the "latest version" means nothing
10:21.34annmaeither you run 4.4.2 KHangMan or trunk
10:21.34annmatrunk is something you need to build entirely
10:21.34annmait is next 4.5
10:21.34annmayo udo not need this s
10:21.47annmaget the sources for your current version and improve your GSoC proposal based on those sources
10:21.53annmaand based on this GUI
10:22.07Spyroanma: i can't get sound on a game under wine (apart from a 1/2 sec blast at the start)
10:22.20enthusannma: ok..
10:22.29annmaSpyro: I don't use wine
10:22.39annmaask your distro channel
10:22.50vizzydoesnt kde create a backup of last working preferences during startup if it has changed or lost?
10:23.00Spyroannma: whats a distro channel
10:23.07annma!!!
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10:23.16annmawhat is your distribution
10:23.37annmavizzy: why would it do that?
10:23.40Spyroannma: how do i find that out?
10:23.49annmano idea Spyro
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10:23.59cb400fSpyro: where did you get it?
10:24.10annmaif you do not know your linux distribution maybe yo're running windows
10:24.17Spyrocb400f: from yum i think
10:24.21cb400fit == your gnu/linux operating system
10:24.37cb400fif you have yum your distro is likely fedora, rhel or centos
10:24.49vizzyannma, because i had a crash and kde lost all settings for panels etc p
10:24.58Spyrocb400f:  oh yeah its fedora 12
10:25.03vizzyhow to restore? i have a backup of my home, but what files are relevant?
10:25.06annmareally vizzy
10:25.07cb400fso ask fedora
10:25.13Spyroannma:   oh yeah its fedora 12
10:25.20Spyrocb400f: how?#
10:25.22annmavizzy: what kde version
10:25.35cb400f/join #fedora
10:25.35annmausers should state their kde version prior to any question
10:25.36vizzyannew, 3.5, i would never use 4 on my old machine ;)
10:25.42annmagod
10:25.45vizzyannew, i did that!
10:25.54cireplease, could someone help me with that system monitor thing? It is really annoying. It seems neither processor-plasmoid, nor ram-plasmoid are showing something.
10:26.06vizzyusing debian lenny, lde3.5 etc. i mentioned in my first sentece ;)
10:26.19annmavizzy: then please ask in #debian
10:26.24cireThey just don't detect the HW properly. What do I need for them to work?
10:26.48vizzyannma, its really a kde related question. so debian would say 'ask in kde' .....
10:26.50vizzycool
10:26.53annmaor search with google
10:26.56cireand my kde version is 4.3.4
10:27.22vizzygoogle is useless here
10:27.26annmavizzy: what settings do yo uwant back and what do you hae now?
10:27.30annmareally?
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10:29.10vizzyannma, i want panel settings back, i look for something like kdepanelsrc.conf etc.
10:29.26Moggervizzy: not completely sure (haven't used kde3 in a long time), but you can try ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
10:30.01annmakickerrc for panel yes iirc
10:30.21annmashould be something your distro could say to you though
10:30.26vizzyah! cool, thanks, that was exactly what i was lookin forg
10:30.55vizzyso i could restore this one file and see what happens, maybe it gets its old settings again
10:30.59cireFound the solution. Ksysguardd wasn't installed. It's a pity that nobody pointed me to that.
10:31.07vizzythanks. i immediately set up a rsync for my kde config :)
10:31.16Moggercire: if nobody knows the answer, you might want to try asking in the forums: http://forum.kde.org
10:31.17cireBut thanks anyway, great desktop environment.
10:31.34cireThank you Mogger, I will do that in future
10:31.36annmavizzy: be sure to log out, restaure the file, log back in
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10:31.42vizzybtw, has anyone running a kde4 on a slow pentium?
10:31.50Moggercire: oh. then nevermind :) glad that you solved it
10:31.53vizzyannma, yes :)
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10:32.11annmahow slow vizzy
10:32.41annmaCPU and RAM?
10:32.45vizzyseems modern distros only have kde4, but i'm not sure if it runs on my laptop, t42p, 1.8ghz, 2gb ram, where power and ram is used for apps, nit desktop :)
10:33.06annmauhhhh
10:33.12annma2gb RAM????
10:33.14vizzya normal laptop :)
10:33.19annmayou can perfectly use KDE4
10:33.23annma!!!!!!!!
10:33.30vizzyand other apps too ? :))
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10:33.35CompanionCubekde4 runs fine on my 1.5ghz laptop
10:33.39annmawhat other apps
10:33.42vizzyi mean without running slow or out of resources
10:33.48annmawithout
10:33.56vizzyblender, texteditor, office, seamonkey, all that
10:34.07annmaI was thinking you have a Celeron with 350Mb ram: that is SLOW
10:34.10vizzyok, so i will give it a try
10:34.21annmablender I don't know, isn't that sucky
10:34.35annmaseamonkey I don't know either
10:34.44annmabut kde4 you can perfectly run
10:35.04Moggervizzy: what graphic card? that seems to play an important role
10:35.08vizzyok, i will try it, maybe upgrade to debian testing
10:35.15d3xvizzy, just don't use amarok and nepomuk
10:35.19d3xthey are ram-eaters
10:35.29vizzyMogger, i have disabled 3d at all, no need for that except i use blender, then i will reanable 3d
10:35.39vizzyno, no amarok, god beware
10:35.57d3xlol
10:35.59vizzyMogger, ati mobile firegl2 or so , 128mb ram, using free radeon driver
10:36.00Moggerhere 4.4.2 runs fine on P4 2.60 GHz and 1.5 GB RAM with Nvidia Geforce FX 5200
10:36.03d3xi use amarok, it's not that bad :)
10:36.14d3xtoo lazy to look for an alternative
10:36.36vizzyd3x, hehe, yes, lazyness you have to pay by performance and ram *g
10:36.54d3xhere 4.4.2 runs fine on i3 2.26GHz, 4GB RAM and integrated intel graphics (in cpu)
10:36.54d3x:)
10:37.05Moggerand a netbook with Intel Atom 1.6 GHz and 2 GB RAM
10:37.09d3xvizzy, screw it, got plenty of resources :P
10:37.36vizzyso kde 4 with intel? ok, then my ati wouldnt be a problem. the intel shared ram grcchips are really the worst ive seen
10:37.36annmaamarok is ram eater?
10:37.51annmavizzy: what do you do with your desktop
10:37.56vizzyseamonkey eats more ram :)
10:38.00annmado you need effects such as snowing???
10:38.04d3xannma, in comparison to moc - yes
10:38.09annmaor drunken windows???
10:38.13annmamoc?
10:38.27annmahow much ram d3x
10:38.27d3xMusic On Console :)
10:38.27annmaso, how much
10:38.29annmagod
10:38.40d3xamarok - more than 100MB, moc - about 5
10:38.43annmamusic on console, what the hell is this now
10:38.46vizzyannma, oh, just use some mouseclicks instead of running console, it should be only to use for browser, office and so on, i'm not very interested in having overloaded guis ;)
10:38.51annma100Mb what is it nowadays
10:39.06d3xannma, very good music player that can use ffmpeg so it can play almost anything
10:39.08annmavizzy: then you'll be perfectly fine
10:39.22annmad3x: !!!
10:39.29vizzyok, i feel better now, maybe then do an upgrade to squeeze
10:39.45annmanowadays music playing is about choosing what yo uwant to play in your 30Gb collection
10:39.52vizzyi dont like to mess around holding or freezing packages for kde3 *gg
10:39.53annmait's not about playing anything
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10:40.10icwienerd3x: You cannot compare Amarok to a command line player.
10:40.26annmamusic playing is also playing music from your mobile devices
10:40.28vizzyicwiener, why not? both just play music
10:40.29d3xicwiener, who forbids?
10:40.47d3xannma, especially when i don't
10:40.57annmad3x: probably you're not average Joe music player
10:41.00icwienerd3x: Noone forbids. But it's just not a valid comparison.
10:41.05annmaexactly
10:41.09annmabe realistic
10:41.14icwienervizzy: And your car just protects you from rain?
10:41.16d3xannma, i think i am - i just throw my Music dir into moc and run it on shuffle
10:41.26annmabah
10:41.30vizzyicwiener, no, i ride by nike, i dont care of rain :P
10:41.34annmatall that any of your friens
10:41.37annmafriend
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10:41.58icwienerd3x: If you WOULD use Amarok to just play music, that's your deal ... but Amarok is not comarable to a plain music player.
10:42.03vizzyhowever :) since xmms is gone and became a server with too many clients, i prefer audio cds :))
10:42.10annmasees herself telling her 40-years-old housewifes friends "just throw your music into moc"
10:42.14d3xicwiener, i know what amarok is...
10:42.18annmad3x: ^^
10:42.28annmais that realistic
10:42.39szalhow is moc better than e.g. mpd?
10:42.40annmaor my 19 years old son friends the same
10:42.41d3xi'm just saying that you don't have to use it if you don't need all that fancy playlist handling
10:42.41vizzyok, thanks for assistance, have to go off now and get a new router, my old one dies
10:42.42_julianhi
10:42.56annmamoc -> just the name is a sucker
10:42.57icwienerd3x: That's correct.
10:43.01vizzymy last words: fancyness is against productivity :)
10:43.01d3xszal, it's very similar i think
10:43.10_julianis anyone else seeing "No payload to add event" errors when using googledata akonadi-plugin for calendar sync?
10:43.15annmampd -> who knows that
10:43.41szalannma: mpd is widely used among less GUI-prone ppl ;)
10:43.49annma_julian: akonadi google cal does not sync from your desktop to google iirc
10:43.58annmaszal: sure
10:43.59d3xszal, it also has GUIs AFAIR
10:44.09_julianannma: I'm quite sure it did work for me yesterday...
10:44.11szald3x: yes, there are GUI clients
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10:44.15annmaif I don't even know it I don't see how anyone sane knows it
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10:44.24rhisaHey folks, what's a good monitoring widget? <:)
10:44.33annma_julian: wow you're lucky then - what happened yesterday then
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10:44.40d3xannma, and you are the ultimate source of knowledge...
10:44.48_julianannma: no idea. just added another entry today and see the error
10:44.50szalannma: fyi: mpd = the Music Player Daemon
10:44.58annmad3x: I am quite a linux and command line user yes
10:45.01annmanot a geek
10:45.17annmaso what you're debating cannot apply to normal people
10:45.21annmathat's all
10:45.24szallol
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10:45.30annmawhich is Linux problem probably
10:45.46d3xannma, who cares about normal people? ;)
10:45.49annmame
10:45.58annmaamarok
10:46.03annmawhich was the start
10:46.10_julianlooking at the code it definitely support export of events: http://akonadi-googledata.sourcearchive.com/documentation/1.0.1-1/gcalresource_8cpp-source.html - just not if the item has no payload...
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10:46.31annma_julian: if it works yesterday, what happened then?
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10:47.19_julianannma: as I said, I don't know what happened in the meantime. didn't change anything I could remember of
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10:48.20alibabaHello, I just upgraded from KDE 3.5.x to KDE 4.3.5 "release 3".   The desktop works, but I miss all the icons I had on my KDE 3.5 desktop. How can i get them visible again?
10:48.32annma_julian: no distro upgrade?
10:48.37_julianannma: no.
10:48.49annmatry #akonadi then
10:49.11alibabaI have a directory "Desktop"  in my home dir, there I see all the files...
10:49.15annmaI never managed to sync korganizer to google akonadi calendar
10:51.49cb400falibaba: folder view widget
10:51.57cb400f.. configured to show desktop folder
10:52.16cb400fyou haven't seen a kde4 screenshot or read a blog post in the last two years?
10:52.40cb400f.. and the folder view widget should be there by default, so your installation is prolly not complete
10:54.48alibabaI am wondering that the rightclick on the desktop does nothing now...
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10:56.01alibabacb400f: On my laptop I already use 11.2 and KDE4.
10:56.56cb400fsounds like you must have had some old configs lying around
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11:05.03alibabacb400f: The line you showed me resetted plasma, but I still see no icons.
11:05.27cb400fadd the folder view widget.. if you can't do that, check your installation
11:06.07alibabaTo be sure to do nothing wrong, what are the steps for that?
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11:19.48alibabaHi, I upgraded from KDE 3.5 -> 4.3.5.  Now I don't see any of my former desktop icons.  When I try to change to "Folder view", the icon in U.R. corner vanishes, but I see none of my icons. I am absolutely unable to continue my work now, can somebody, please, help?
11:20.39cb400fdon't change to folderview "desktop acitivity"
11:20.46cb400fadd the folderview widget
11:20.55cb400fright click desktop -> add widgets -> folderview
11:21.17cb400f.. then configure the folder view to show Desktop.. since it'll prolly show your home folder by default for some reason
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11:22.00cb400fbut again if you don't have the folderview widget showing your desktop folder out of the box, your installation is likely broken
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11:22.22alibabaWhen trying to do so, I get an error message: Could not find requested component: folderview
11:23.10alibabaThis 1-click install seems to have not worked correctly.
11:23.41cb400fnope.. never does.. not suited for huge operations like this
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11:24.04cb400fI told you to use the patterns.. open yast.. install kde base and kde desktop patterns
11:24.21cb400fkde4 base and kde4 desktop that is
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11:24.44alibabaI surely can do that now?
11:24.53cb400fyes
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11:26.07cb400flike this: http://mschlander.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/patterns.png
11:27.35alibabaHmm - I already have them checked...
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11:37.23alibabaI re-marked the groups to be installed, it added some additional parts. But actually only one file was added which surely has nothing to do with my phenomen...
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11:41.30alibabacb400f: which package contains folderview, please?
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11:46.13alibabaSomebody here who can help, please? Either get KDE 4.3.5 working or how to get back to KDE 3.5 which worked?
11:47.38alibabafolderview is not avaiulable, etc...
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11:49.16icwieneralibaba: folderview is in kdebase-apps
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11:51.56alibabaIt appears to me that my YaST is missing some repositories. YaST doesn't finde that package.
11:53.58icwieneralibaba: It might be names slightly differently but that would be a question for the #opensuse channel.
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11:54.32alibabaAnd there I get only stupid answers like why I don't upgrade to 11.2 first...
11:55.41alibabaCould you, please, help me? I stuck and cannot do my work.
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11:55.53icwienerHmm, it is possible that earlier versions do not go well with kde 4. But that's beyond my knowledge. :)
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11:56.22icwienerI am not on opensuse and do not know much about how stuff works there, sorry.
11:56.32alibabaBut that I cannot even get my existing icons back on the screen?
11:57.03icwienerI would just try to install the kde4 patterns (see the screenshot posted by cb400f) and see if it works.
11:57.18icwienerAnyway, got to go. Good luck.. :)
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13:13.18PuffTheMagicdoes anyone know if kde 4 mac will support plasma?
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13:14.22annmakde4 IS plasma
13:14.34annmaI mean plasma is part of KDE4
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13:35.36GNU\colossuswhy does nepomukservices alway segfault after starting?
13:35.59annmauh?
13:36.15annmawhat backtrace?
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13:42.16dotCOMmieis there a reason why "kquitapp plasma-desktop" works inside a shell but not a shell script?
13:42.54annmahmm
13:42.59annmawhat shell script?
13:43.23dotCOMmiemy shell script
13:43.38dotCOMmieit returns "<unknown program name>(25690)/: "Application plasma-desktop could not be found using service org.kde.plasma-desktop and path /MainApplication.""
13:43.41annmawhat shell
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13:43.44dotCOMmiebash
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13:48.36dotCOMmieoh!
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15:13.00PlasmaHHhi, in kde3 I could set one big background image for my 2 monitors, now in kde4 the setting seems to be per monitor... does there exist some setting somewhere that allows me to chose a big image or do I have to split up my image manually and set it on the monitors each?
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16:08.05The_ManU_212i installed knetworkmanager how to display the information i can select in the settings, like ip-adress, wireless, security etc would be nice to get this info when hovering
16:08.15The_ManU_212or isnt this the righzt support channel?
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16:09.40AardwolfHi, I'm using Konqueror 3.5.10 to browse the web. Whenever I want to open *any* link on a webpage, instead of opening the link in konqueror, it asks to open the html file in firefox. I know that there was some setting in Konqueror (something with mime) to disable this behaviour and act like a normal browser, but I forgot which setting. How to do it again? Thanks!
16:10.28beeris it knetworkmanager fot kde 3 or kde 4 ?
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16:11.56beerAardwolf: what are you default browser?
16:12.05Aardwolfbeer, Seamonkey
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16:12.29AardwolfBut I'd like to use konqueror anyway, the point is exactly to have multiple browsers open
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16:13.07beermaybe (not sure) it will help to make you default browser to konq?
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16:14.23AardwolfI can try, it would be good if there were a solution without that though, to have Konqueror working as browser even if another one is the default
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16:14.54beerthere mgith be
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16:16.52AardwolfI think konqueror the web browser is confusing itself with konqueror the file browser, or so... it wants to do the same action when clicking on a html in the file browser, as when clicking on a link in the web browser...
16:17.21Aardwolfanyway, I'll find a different browser instead, thanks
16:17.47dinthis im log resource already in Akonadi ?
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16:18.57clarjon1How do i get system notifications (eg libnotify) to appear in the kde notification 'popup'?
16:19.13clarjon1I used to have it doing that... but obviously i changed something without meaning to...
16:19.34clarjon1(currently non-kde notifications pop up in the annoying yellow box in the lower left corner)
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16:52.23The_ManU_212i installed knetworkmanager how to display the information i can select in the settings, like ip-adress, wireless, security etc would be nice to get this info when hovering
16:52.49annmawhat kde version?
16:53.49darylDon't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
16:53.50darylwhy?
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16:54.48annmabecause you could loose data
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16:55.17annmaThe_ManU_212: find out the version and issue a bug report (as a wish) for it
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16:56.21clarjon1daryl: instead of deleting, just rename the directory. THat way, if things break, just delete the new .kde / .kde4 and rename back
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16:56.54The_ManU_212annma: is it really a bug since some days ago i got a popup with this detailed info but now not and since it has a settings-menu it seems supposed to be a tooltip?
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16:57.11daryluhm
16:57.12daryli see
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16:58.40d3xThe_ManU_212, did you upgrade knm during these 'some days'?
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16:59.03The_ManU_212d3x: nope 100% not since its self-compiled
16:59.23The_ManU_212d3x: do you get these tooltips like ip etc and if yes, while hovering?
16:59.56d3xi get it when i click knm icon and then hover over specific connection
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17:02.51opensourcecathi guys. Got a new vaio and finally all is working (it was a long, long day...) just one thing left: the battery applet does not recognize when the power is plugged/unplugged
17:03.05clarjon1ah
17:03.08opensourcecatit does when i first boot the laptop
17:03.11clarjon1i've had that happen a few times with my laptop
17:03.50clarjon1opensourcecat: It might be a hardware issue -- try powering down, removing the battery and power cord, hold the power button for 10-15 seconds to clear any static, then see if that changes anything... it works here for my laptop :P
17:04.03opensourcecatacpi informations are correct: if i cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state
17:04.17thiago_homeopensourcecat: so ACPI reports differently when you plug and unplug?
17:04.22opensourcecatyep
17:04.35thiago_homeok, it's the applet then
17:04.44opensourcecatexact line: state:                   off-line
17:05.00opensourcecatcopied from  cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state
17:05.17clarjon1opensourcecat: are you plugged in rite now?
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17:05.31opensourcecatif i plug the power it becomes "on-line"
17:05.38opensourcecati'm on battery now
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17:05.47opensourcecatand kde 4.4.2
17:05.55opensourcecatshould i file a bug?
17:06.28clarjon1hm
17:06.32clarjon1i've the same kde version
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17:06.53d3xi don't have /proc/acpi/ac_adapter at all
17:06.56d3xbut the applet works ok ;)
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17:07.59opensourcecatthe strange is that if i plug the power the battery state changes on the applet correctly from discharging to charging!
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17:15.21diegoviolahi, what is the kde app to stop/kill a kde app?
17:15.21The_ManU_212d3x: k that was it thx, i have running a dhcp server @home at a specific range and i have also static ips , networkmanger always connects to dhcp instead to my static ip, do you know who bto fix this?
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17:15.39thiago_homediegoviola: kquitapp
17:15.46diegoviolathanks
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17:16.55diegoviolait seems like when nepomuk indexes my files, i can't call krunner, etc
17:16.58diegoviolatoo slow
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17:17.25diegoviolanot sure if it might be that
17:17.37The_ManU_212is there bug issued where in plasma-netbook the panel hides everytome, though hide panel is disabled?
17:17.56diegoviolanope, it's not that
17:18.11diegoviolaalt+f2 or ctrl+esc doesn't respond right now
17:18.35diegoviolaany ideas?
17:18.53thiago_homeis krunner still running?
17:18.57diegoviolayes
17:19.01diegoviolai can't call the process manager too
17:19.15thiago_homeis kglobalaccel running?
17:19.17diegoviolakquitapp krunner doesn't do anything
17:19.37diegoviola<PROTECTED>
17:19.37diegoviola29650 ?        00:00:02 kglobalaccel
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17:20.17diegoviolaalt+f1 (kickoff) works
17:20.29thiago_homekillall krunner and restart it
17:20.36thiago_homebut wait 25 seconds first
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17:20.43thiago_homeand then try again, before killall
17:21.19diegoviolais this a bug?
17:21.49diegoviolathiago_home: i did that, it works
17:21.49spectraluhm.. if i press and hold left mousebutton on the titlebar of a window when maximized it is "restored" to a smaller window (same as pressing the restore button next to the minimize button in the taskbar.. how can i change this?
17:22.08spectraltaskbar.. i mean titlebar
17:22.16diegoviolai can call ctrl+esc now too
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17:23.57diegoviolathiago_home: i'm getting this: http://pastie.org/909723
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17:43.47beerwhitch kde 4 apt-get based distro do you think is best?
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18:09.39Ramachandranhi to all
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18:12.16Ramachandranhi to all i am newbie to GSOC
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18:12.42Ramachandrancan anyone help me
18:13.16Ramachandranmay i know the mentor for "photo gallery" project...
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18:24.35zhobbsanyone know how to get kde to use oss sound drivers?
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18:25.39djusticezhobbs: systemsettings->multimedia? dunno. havent used oss since.. 2001 maybe... :)
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18:26.53zhobbsdjustice: yeah, oss4 is out now, so no longer depreciated
18:27.05muktvijay#kernel
18:27.14zhobbsmuktvijay: it works for all non-kde apps
18:27.26zhobbsso...probably not a kernel issue
18:27.33mdikRamachandran: maybe in #kde-devel?
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18:28.09Ramachandranoh thank u sir
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18:35.24ajehalsHi, is there a way to quickly and easily get the full path and filename of the current wallpaper in kde4 in a script?
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18:37.00cb400fajehals: it's stored in the plasma-desktop-appletsrc
18:37.08cb400fin >= 4.3
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18:42.29ajehalscb400f: - that seems to include everything bar the current wallpaper...possibly because it has been changed since login.. any other idea?
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18:57.41TanktalusHas anyone else noticed their contacts being unusable in KDE 4.4.2?  I'm in kontact, and the contacts section shows two .vcf files, and both seem to have all my contacts' names, but no details come up - email, address, etc., all missing.
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19:00.41annmawere they OK in 4.4.1?
19:01.43phraghi guys, anyone know why my kde bindings dont work until i open the configuration dialog for global khotkeys and close it again ? (4.4.
19:01.48phrag4.4.2*
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19:02.11phragwas like that in 4.4.1 too
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19:03.38Tanktalusannew_away: I'm not sure - I don't remember looking.
19:03.48Tanktalusugh.
19:03.51Tanktalusannma: ^
19:04.19phragdo you define them in Input Actions, then bind them with khotkeys in Global Keyboard Shortcuts? or is there a better way to do it?
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19:17.07NishaKittyhi hi peeps can anyone tell me if there is a terminal command to bring up the control centre for kde?
19:17.21NishaKittykde 4.x for reference
19:18.08annmasystemsettings
19:18.17NishaKittyannma, thanks lots
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19:19.45NishaKittyannma, extra thanks cause the person I was helping was getting frustraited lots xD
19:20.01annma;) you're welcome
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19:22.04enthusHi all... i m trying to compile the source code of khangman from kdeedu-4.4.2.tar.bz2 and got compilation error and here it is http://pastebin.com/WaXjAXeY
19:22.29enthusany suggestions???
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19:24.16annmaenthus: you need devel packages for qt and kdelibs.
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19:26.48enthusok..so shall i run 'sudo apt-get build-dep qt'?
19:27.35kde__pepolibkde5-dev (or ask in distro channel)
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19:33.55supert0nesis there a way to do directory sharing from my linux box to my windows box in krdc?
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19:37.42James147supert0nes: cant you set up a samba share? dont think krcd can do that  :S
19:38.20supert0nesno i don't have that option unfortunately
19:39.10supert0nesit's an rdesktop flag usually and i see krdc allows extra flag options, but i'm not sure
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20:20.16moamenHi
20:20.49moamenI'm having trouble connecting to a wireless network in kde, any help please?
20:21.37Creapis it a specific issue with knetworkmanager?
20:21.45Creapwhich distribution are you running
20:21.46Creapubuntu?
20:22.46moamenI'm running mint 8 kde
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20:23.35moamenHere's the story: right clicking the network manager icon in the system tray shows options to connect to wired connections and start a new vpn
20:23.58moamenit seems that wireless networking doesn't work at all, no detected networks, nothing
20:24.15moamenI'm pretty sure I have wifi turned on in my laptop, bluetooth works in kde too btw
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20:24.27datacrusherhello everyone! im using a kubuntu desktop, to use as a kiosk for our library. but users can use ctrl+tab to open other windows, and browser on other sites. how do i block firefox, or use some other method that only a browser its opened fullscreen with no further access then an specific page?
20:24.37moamenGnome detects networks flawlessly and allows me to connect to mine
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20:24.55datacrusherim using firefox kiosk addon to go fullscreen, but alt_f4, and other commands also work
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20:25.12djusticemoamen: "kquitapp knetworkmanager && nm-applet &"
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20:25.56moamendjustice: run this in the terminal? what would it do?
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20:26.42djusticemoamen: it stops kde's network manager and runs gnome's instead.
20:27.02djusticemoamen: try a new user config too, to see if its a knetworkmanager bug. and if so. please report it on bugs.kde.org. :)
20:27.18JamesB192sabayon w/ mostly kde 4.4.2 (remenants from prev kde exist). um having trouble running akregator (and hance kontact) cli output from akregator -> http://www.sabayon.org/pastie/3587
20:27.25moamendjustice: ok, going to boot to kde right now to try it, thanks!
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20:28.18djusticemoamen: np :)
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20:32.46xTsHi, I've got a problem with kmail and gpg encrypted mails
20:34.11xTskgpg is running, pinentry-qt4 is installed, but all i get is a blue message box with a "data couldn't be decrypted" message
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21:00.46aikieok now I'm lost in kde, I have this 'search & start' activity I think, but how can I add a new desktop acitivty?
21:00.46aikieright clicking doesn't do anything
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21:03.47James147aikie: should be able to do that from the cachew (the icon probally in the corner of your screen) might need to unlock widgets first
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21:06.02aikiethat's the problem I can't see the cachew anywhere
21:06.33James147aikie: is it under your panel?
21:10.15aikieno wasn't under my panel
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21:10.32aikiedue to some bad background image it's really hard to see
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21:11.19James147aikie: hmm, you can assin a short cut to it then (Alt + D, Alt + A  is the default on mine)
21:11.40James147aikie: when focused on the desktop ^^
21:12.02aikiethink I'll stick to one activity 'Desktop'
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21:35.07guysoft42hi all, when i select the "compress to tar.gz" option in dolphin on a folder, the folder gets compressed containing the full path (/home/guy....../folder), instead of just the folder, might there be a way to fix this?
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21:38.17guysoft42ok, seems to be an ark bug, even with the regular interface it does taht
21:38.19guysoft42that*
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21:40.26James147guysoft42: what version of kde are you using? 4.4.2 here and it dosnt do that :S
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23:01.34JWwhen I started KDE4 for the first time, right after the menu about "Starting Akonadi server" I got a message - I think it said something about akonadi migration - trying that something failed -- and then the message dissappeard. on it's own.
23:01.46JWanyone know how to see that same error message a second time?
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23:14.12*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.2 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
23:14.22moukapinotree: where them?
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23:14.31pinotreeread above?
23:15.31moukapinotree: Unfortunately, that's not what I find when I right click on desktop
23:15.45pinotreethen what do you find?
23:16.12moukaadd widget
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23:16.16moukaremove widget
23:16.19moukalock widget
23:16.20moukaicons
23:16.29moukarefresh desktop
23:16.41pinotreefolder view settings?
23:16.44moukaopen with dolphin
23:17.04moukaBINGO
23:17.07moukaThat was it
23:17.10moukaThanks!!!!!
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23:18.24moukaThanks for the tip
23:18.28moukaI appreciate it
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23:32.42chomwitthi. in kde 4.3.4 (squeze) in systemsetting i change the mouse pointer theme but when i reboot changes are not saved. i dont see a relavant bug in BTS . should i report it?
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23:40.49James147is there anyway to map a character (not key press) to a shotcut in input actions? (kde 4.4.2)
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23:44.37Eddi|zuHausehi, i have a strange problem in kaffeine/xine, when i play flv videos (e.g. clips downloaded from youtube), some parts at the bottom get cut off (about 5%). the same video plays fine in vlc
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23:46.52guysoft42James147, hey, sorry for the latency. 4.3 in Debian
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23:53.57guysoft42Seems like in ark in debian, when selecting a folder to archive, ark arches a folder tree of the full absolute path of the folder, thats the current debian version
23:57.02James147guysoft42: think it use to do that to me, but havent had that problem since kde 4.4.x
23:57.26guysoft42James147, ah.. well i am not sure debian has 4.4 yet :-/
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