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| 01:15.13 | PovAddict | I installed KDE 4.4 in a virtual machine (VirtualBox) |
| 01:15.39 | PovAddict | 3D acceleration is enabled, glxgears works, glxinfo shows direct rendering: Yes |
| 01:15.47 | PovAddict | but enabling desktop effects gives a non-specific error message |
| 01:16.31 | PovAddict | "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options." |
| 01:16.35 | PovAddict | is there any log for this? |
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| 01:21.28 | PovAddict | "Software GL renderer detected, forcing compositing off." |
| 01:22.01 | PovAddict | grr... glxinfo disagrees >.< |
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| 01:30.20 | sputnick | hi there |
| 01:32.12 | sputnick | if you want like me to recover old keyboard ctrl+alt+D to show/hide the desktop, type this in konsole ( or such pseudo-terminal ) : sed -i.$(date +%Y%m%d) 's@^Show Desktop=.*@Show Desktop=Ctrl+Alt+D,none,Show Desktop@' $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/config/kglobalshortcutsrc |
| 01:34.10 | sputnick | in such things, anyone know how to recover ctrl+alt+BackSpace keyboard shortcut ? |
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| 01:35.18 | sputnick | that was killing X in the past |
| 01:38.22 | PovAddict | sputnick: that's an X setting |
| 01:38.50 | PovAddict | sputnick: man Xorg.conf | grep -A4 Zap |
| 01:39.25 | sputnick | Nice PovAddict, thanks :) |
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| 01:50.21 | sputnick | nope, now that is no longuer supported by X but my xkb. "setxkbmap -option -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" |
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| 02:03.30 | shiznix | hi all, has anyone got mail distribution lists (now called groups) working in kaddressbook-4.4 |
| 02:04.33 | shiznix | as soon as i add any contact to a new group, it automatically deletes it from the list ~10 seconds later |
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| 02:17.52 | fynn | Hi. In Konsole, when I have 3 open tabs, is there a way to switch directly to tab 3? |
| 02:18.45 | fynn | In Gnome Terminal I just use Alt-3 for that, but in Konsole it seems I have to use Shift-right_arrow twice, going through tab 2. |
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| 02:38.32 | slckb0y | hi everyone :) is someone running KDE in a virtualbox under win7 ? :) i can't seem to use OpenGL for desktop effect even if i installed guest additions |
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| 02:46.25 | lazarus477 | Question: In KDE4, how do I slide a window from one virtual desktop to the next? |
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| 04:42.52 | factor | how do I restart plasma |
| 04:43.35 | factor | ok plasma-desktop did nit |
| 04:43.40 | factor | looks ok . |
| 04:43.51 | factor | just disappeared |
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| 07:38.23 | tom_ | so many people but no discussion. strange .... |
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| 07:39.20 | cb400f | it's early saturday morning in europe.. and late friday night in the us |
| 07:39.35 | cb400f | .. and noone needs support for kde cuz everything works so well |
| 07:41.33 | tom_ | good. But I guess there are 4 more continents there.:) |
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| 07:43.08 | cb400f | yeah.. but they typically don't have broadband, don't speak english as their primary language, and don't have time to waste on chat :-) |
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| 07:59.41 | zeke | is there a way in KDE-4.4.71 to make a window fullscreen across two or more monitors? |
| 08:00.11 | thiago_home | fullscreen is per screen |
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| 08:00.46 | zeke | how did I see DE's have four monitors and play a movie across all four? |
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| 08:04.03 | thiago_home | maybe the movie player did that |
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| 08:07.01 | MadAGu | is there any way to make headings in a mail writen with kmail? |
| 08:07.55 | thiago_home | headings in a mail? |
| 08:08.43 | MadAGu | yes.... you know like the ones you use with an office application |
| 08:08.58 | MadAGu | when you are trying to format a text |
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| 08:10.31 | thiago_home | you want HTML mail |
| 08:10.34 | thiago_home | turn that on first |
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| 08:16.45 | MadAGu | thiago_home: i did that |
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| 08:26.20 | MadAGu | thiago_home: ????? |
| 08:26.59 | thiago_home | what? |
| 08:27.09 | MadAGu | i activated html mail |
| 08:27.50 | MadAGu | but i don't see anything |
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| 08:30.32 | madarapu | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.34 | madarapu | [10:24] <madarapu> i am not able to listen to audio in fedora 12.. any help? |
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| 08:33.46 | Torch | madarapu: sounds like a question better suited for #fedora |
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| 10:21.37 | Gentle | are there plans to add a "never hide any icon" option to the current systray? |
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| 12:58.14 | urkud | Hi! Okular print dialog doesn't show location of the printer and various extra options (odd/even pages etc.) |
| 12:58.36 | pinotree | hi! nothing okular- or kde-specific |
| 12:59.49 | urkud | Do you mean that my Qt build is broken? |
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| 13:00.13 | pinotree | no, i mean none of them is an okular or a kde issue |
| 13:01.02 | urkud | cups? |
| 13:01.08 | pinotree | no, qt |
| 13:01.18 | pinotree | qt print dialog simply has no such options |
| 13:01.54 | urkud | I saw these options in okular before last rebuild |
| 13:02.13 | pinotree | rebuild of what? |
| 13:04.31 | urkud | It seems that I broke my cups (don't see these options in CUPS interface). Sorry for wasting your time. |
| 13:04.49 | pinotree | ok |
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| 13:37.13 | Granjow | Good day |
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| 14:42.46 | PeanutHorst | uh guys |
| 14:42.58 | PeanutHorst | why does selecting something in one app and middle-clicking to paste in another not work anymore |
| 14:43.14 | PeanutHorst | Ctrl-C Ctrl-V is nothing but a nuisance when i'm used to (arguably) X11's best feature |
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| 14:43.40 | cb400f | look at the klipper settings |
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| 14:48.49 | PeanutHorst | cb400f: ... that the little pasteboard icon in my docklet? |
| 14:49.44 | PeanutHorst | yup it is, and i cna't see anything about x11-style kill/yank |
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| 15:00.36 | scott__ | kde screen saver starts at random times while working on the computer |
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| 15:01.01 | scott__ | requires password to login |
| 15:01.15 | scott__ | tried system setting with out any effect |
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| 15:01.56 | scott__ | i am missing the panel for acpi on the system settings so thought it might be related |
| 15:02.21 | scott__ | screen saver starts about every 45 seconds to 1 minute |
| 15:03.54 | scott__ | karmic with kde 4 |
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| 15:14.49 | fynn | Hi. In Konsole, when I have 3 open tabs, is there a way to switch directly to tab 3? |
| 15:14.58 | fynn | In Gnome Terminal I just use Alt-3 for that, but in Konsole it seems I have to use Shift-right_arrow twice, going through tab 2. |
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| 15:15.58 | urkud | fynn: use settings->configure shortcuts |
| 15:18.36 | fynn | urkud: thanks. another question: is there a way to do incremental search of filenames in the KDE file browser (Konquerer?) like one can do in Nautilus? |
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| 15:20.25 | urkud | It is possible to enable "filter" bar |
| 15:20.35 | urkud | It will filter as you type |
| 15:21.23 | urkud | Tools->Show filter bar |
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| 15:22.55 | lamefun | How do I disable plasma effects (animations, transitions, hover, etc)? |
| 15:23.41 | urkud | Choose another theme |
| 15:23.58 | lamefun | so animations is controlled by theme? |
| 15:24.13 | urkud | Actually, I'm not sure. |
| 15:24.48 | QwertyM | don't think they can be disabled, no gui option at least |
| 15:24.57 | fynn | urkud: awesome, thanks! |
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| 15:25.14 | urkud | fynn: this works in almost any KDE program. |
| 15:26.00 | cb400f | taskbar tooltips can be turned off in taskbar settings |
| 15:26.19 | fynn | urkud: the "filter" bar? |
| 15:26.45 | urkud | fynn: No. Shortcuts. |
| 15:27.04 | cb400f | and there's this: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/todays-tip-kdeskipargbvisuals.html |
| 15:27.45 | cb400f | and there's systemsettings -> appearance -> style -> fine tuning |
| 15:28.21 | cb400f | some animations can be turned off in the qt widget style settings |
| 15:28.40 | cb400f | and of course you can disable kwin effects |
| 15:28.55 | fynn | cool, thanks. |
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| 15:40.27 | edt | with kde 4.4 is there any way to turn off changes a window to full screen when you touch the top of the screen. I find this a _very_ madning function. I do not like, nor do I often use fullscreen. This 'feature' is 4.4 is a pita here. How do I turn it off? |
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| 15:41.20 | cb400f | systemsettings -> desktop -> screen edges |
| 15:41.53 | fire`lala | edt: I really like that feature :-) |
| 15:42.14 | edt | As long as its configurable... |
| 15:42.23 | edt | cb400f thanks I missed that checkbox |
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| 15:43.41 | edt | cb400f I was looking for it as one of the options when selectable for the top of screen above the box. |
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| 15:46.00 | urkud | Is it possible to make kmail understand YK> as a citation? |
| 15:46.09 | urkud | I know that this is a bad style. |
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| 17:39.57 | marko | hi folks |
| 17:40.33 | marko | can you tell me the name of KDE openSUSE support channel? I have some crash reporting issues |
| 17:40.43 | pinotree | #opensuse-kde |
| 17:40.57 | marko | thx, pinotree |
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| 17:43.33 | gog | I'm having some trouble with JuK crashing, it starts up and scans my music folder and then starts consuming a large amount of memory, then dies with signal 7 |
| 17:43.50 | gog | I'm having the same problem with amarok |
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| 17:49.09 | tigrmesh | does anyone here use basket? would you be willing to tell me how you use it? i'm more interested in type of content and process rather than how-to. basket is quite well documented |
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| 17:54.12 | Shirakawasuna | Hey, there used to be a nifty way to view a directory by file sizes. It provided graphics (rectangles) corresponding to the size of a folder or file. Does that still exist for KDE4 and what's it called/how is it packaged, so I can get it? |
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| 17:58.15 | junkDawgie | Shirakawasuna: the feature is still available using konqueror (filemanager).... it's in a right-click context menu "File Size View" |
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| 17:59.01 | Shirakawasuna | junkDawgie: my distro uses separate packages so I don't have that option |
| 17:59.09 | Shirakawasuna | junkDawgie: do you know what it's packaged with? |
| 17:59.19 | junkDawgie | looking |
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| 18:00.50 | junkDawgie | seems to be a part of konqueror-plugins... fsview |
| 18:01.46 | Shirakawasuna | awesome, I think the 'konq-plugins' package will have it then :D |
| 18:01.47 | Shirakawasuna | thanks! |
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| 18:02.14 | junkDawgie | i find it handy too |
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| 18:21.25 | ryx | Is it possible to zoom a single window (in order to play old games in wine on a high-resolution lcd)? |
| 18:21.46 | ryx | unfortunately the desktop-zoom moves with the mouse which makes it useless for that |
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| 19:11.36 | markit | hi, I've a lot of users (a new ltsp system) and I want to be able to turn off some "features" users don't have to have on, like update notifier |
| 19:11.52 | markit | is there a way to configure kde "globally"? In this case I'm in kubuntu 10.04 |
| 19:12.00 | markit | but usually I use debian + kde |
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| 19:12.43 | markit | so far I've tried to uninstall packages one by one, but some notifications are not related to a specific package, or better, that package handles also nitification I need |
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| 19:23.40 | annma | markit: what is update notifier? |
| 19:23.47 | annma | isn't that a distro thing? |
| 19:24.18 | markit | annma: yes, probably you are right, but was a general question |
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| 19:24.29 | markit | I could reformulate this way |
| 19:24.42 | markit | how use "system settings" so changes will affect all users? |
| 19:24.45 | annma | generally you tune down KE with kiosk features |
| 19:24.53 | annma | KDE |
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| 19:24.59 | markit | i.e. to disable semantic desktop for instance |
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| 19:25.17 | annma | do not run it and prevent users to run it |
| 19:25.19 | markit | and not have that damn icon on the bottom right |
| 19:25.26 | annma | what damn icon |
| 19:25.36 | markit | the "neponuk" one |
| 19:25.51 | annma | if you don't run nepomuk yo udon't have the icon |
| 19:25.53 | markit | sorry, I'm a bit upset/stressed after some hours of fight |
| 19:25.57 | annma | I don't for ex right now |
| 19:26.11 | markit | I've the feeling of being in a blooted system that does too many things I don't need |
| 19:26.21 | annma | stop nepomuk |
| 19:26.36 | markit | annma: there is not a specific package for it |
| 19:26.41 | annma | hu? |
| 19:26.51 | annma | I did not say remove nepomuk |
| 19:26.51 | markit | and having to turn it off for each of 80 users is time consuming |
| 19:26.58 | annma | I said stop it |
| 19:27.09 | markit | how? |
| 19:27.12 | annma | why is it on for the 80 users? |
| 19:27.30 | markit | system setting is the place I've found to stop neponuk |
| 19:27.38 | markit | and is not "global" |
| 19:27.45 | markit | so I have to do for each user |
| 19:27.55 | markit | that's why I'm asking how act "globally" |
| 19:28.42 | annma | I don't know ltsp but usually this ltsp system has support from distro |
| 19:29.07 | markit | annma: forget about ltsp |
| 19:29.13 | annma | no |
| 19:29.16 | markit | let's say that my workstation has 80 users |
| 19:29.41 | markit | and everyone has neponuk on, num lock off, and single mouse click selection (that I do hate a LOT) |
| 19:29.51 | annma | as root I would look at dbus calls and stop nepomuk |
| 19:29.52 | markit | then I want to set all those users to reasonable settings |
| 19:30.00 | markit | stop how? |
| 19:30.07 | annma | with a dbus call |
| 19:30.10 | markit | manually killing the process? |
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| 19:30.40 | markit | annma: possibly that I'm not able to make my question clear |
| 19:31.07 | markit | think youself having to setup for a school a server with 80 student's account |
| 19:31.13 | annma | sure |
| 19:31.20 | markit | teacher have called you asking "please, remove those unuseful features" |
| 19:31.24 | markit | what will you do? |
| 19:31.27 | annma | that's where ltsp is used |
| 19:31.35 | markit | forget about ltsp, please |
| 19:31.38 | annma | I'll remove them from the server |
| 19:31.39 | markit | is not ltsp related |
| 19:31.56 | markit | ok, so we are back to step one of my question |
| 19:32.02 | markit | how can I remove those features? |
| 19:32.08 | markit | but some you can't remove |
| 19:32.10 | annma | stop nepomuk on the server |
| 19:32.27 | markit | stop means "stop it now, but will restart when you restart the server" |
| 19:32.30 | markit | I need to remove or disable |
| 19:32.32 | markit | not stop |
| 19:32.54 | annma | when it's topeed it stays stopped |
| 19:32.57 | annma | stopped |
| 19:33.17 | markit | if I issue /etc/init.d/whaterver stop |
| 19:33.23 | markit | it will restart at next boot |
| 19:33.51 | markit | annma: can't just be more specific? show me how to do? |
| 19:34.03 | markit | otherwise we will never understand each other |
| 19:34.08 | annma | are we on kde level here or not? |
| 19:34.21 | markit | annma: whatever you like or think is more apropriate |
| 19:34.28 | markit | how can I stop it on kde? |
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| 19:35.33 | markit | of course, back to my first and basic requirement, in a way will affect ALL 80 users |
| 19:35.45 | markit | donig each setting user by user will take some hours... |
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| 19:36.08 | annma | how did yo usetup kde for those 80 users |
| 19:36.21 | markit | just created them and they logged |
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| 19:37.26 | annma | so you have a global $KDEDIR/share/config |
| 19:37.43 | annma | which is where you need to set global settings |
| 19:37.43 | markit | probably :) |
| 19:37.48 | markit | manually? |
| 19:38.02 | annma | as I don't have nepomuk unfortunately I can't tell you what to put there |
| 19:38.09 | markit | trying to figure out what file / parameter to set? |
| 19:38.11 | annma | a global is for all users |
| 19:38.29 | markit | let's say I need to set to mouse double click |
| 19:38.33 | markit | where to look for? |
| 19:38.39 | markit | and num lock? |
| 19:38.43 | annma | apart from nepomuk what do you else want to do? |
| 19:38.57 | markit | for start, the above |
| 19:39.19 | markit | I've removed the kde-wallet package to not being annoyed by it |
| 19:39.32 | markit | but all this stuff is really frustrating |
| 19:39.46 | markit | I would love to have a System Setting program that affects global settings |
| 19:39.50 | markit | is it available? |
| 19:40.37 | annma | that was kiosktool |
| 19:41.05 | annma | did you read about KDE sysadmin? |
| 19:41.08 | tuxick | kiosk was rather nice |
| 19:41.11 | tuxick | what's it called now? |
| 19:41.17 | annma | kiosk is still there |
| 19:41.21 | annma | kiosktool is not |
| 19:41.24 | annma | tool |
| 19:41.26 | tuxick | ack |
| 19:41.32 | markit | annma: what's "KDE sysadmin"? a program? |
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| 19:41.46 | annma | it's how to admin KDE on large systems |
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| 19:42.03 | markit | annma: an howto then... let's google for it |
| 19:42.06 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin |
| 19:42.28 | annma | go there, look, read and then ask questions on kde-devel mailing list for example |
| 19:42.30 | markit | hope to get the answer of my questions, otherwise I forecast very hard times for me in that school |
| 19:42.41 | annma | be constructive |
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| 19:42.49 | markit | annma: thanks, just thought I was asking a simple question |
| 19:42.59 | annma | no you were not |
| 19:43.05 | markit | annma: after some hours of struggling you can't be very constructive, lol |
| 19:43.16 | annma | in fact you did not do what you needed to do |
| 19:43.22 | markit | annma: how can you tell? have a look at log in #kubuntu for instance |
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| 19:43.40 | markit | annma: I perfectly know the goal, not the mean |
| 19:43.57 | markit | not being able to set globally, my resort was remove related packages |
| 19:43.58 | annma | a sysadmin will examine what needs to be done and set the profile for it and only then create users |
| 19:44.17 | markit | annma: ok, but let's thing at this |
| 19:44.22 | annma | apparently you created your users on your stock distro |
| 19:44.24 | markit | I've created the profile and the 80 users |
| 19:44.31 | annma | not the profile |
| 19:44.32 | markit | things go fine the first week |
| 19:44.37 | annma | uh? |
| 19:44.45 | annma | you had no nepomuk then? |
| 19:44.49 | markit | the the teacher calls me "please, stop this and that" |
| 19:45.01 | markit | "and please set this green ant that red" |
| 19:45.27 | markit | annma: I'm showing you a future scenario |
| 19:45.40 | markit | I'm not already been able to stop neponuk |
| 19:45.47 | annma | as I said, reading this doc and then asking on a mailing list will be better than here |
| 19:46.02 | annma | I can add this is something KDE is very keen to improve |
| 19:46.11 | markit | ok, so your final answer can be summarized in "I don't know" :) |
| 19:46.16 | annma | but IRC is not a way to relay problems/feedback |
| 19:46.33 | markit | annma: what is it for then? |
| 19:46.38 | annma | I don't understand your sprcifics, no |
| 19:46.46 | markit | usually people expose a problem and someone gives tips or solutions |
| 19:46.53 | annma | for general stupid questions |
| 19:47.05 | annma | you don't expose your problem |
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| 19:47.26 | markit | annma: probably just you don't read me carefully enough |
| 19:47.32 | annma | probably |
| 19:47.36 | annma | sorry then |
| 19:48.04 | annma | I am pointing you to the kde-devel mailing list for an appropriate help though |
| 19:48.34 | markit | yes, if you take this friendly and not upsetting you |
| 19:49.02 | markit | the problem comes from "just stop it then", that was an aswer suggestion you know what to do properly |
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| 19:49.33 | markit | and me just not getting it... that brought me to an exausting chat lasting 26 minutes |
| 19:49.59 | annma | I mentioned dbus |
| 19:50.11 | annma | as I said I don't currently have nepomuk running |
| 19:50.28 | annma | I also said that if nepomuk is not running you won't have the icon which is true* |
| 19:50.46 | markit | was not about neponuck, was just a sample |
| 19:50.47 | markit | [21:11] <markit> is there a way to configure kde "globally"? |
| 19:50.49 | annma | now I am sorry I cannot help you more and I doubt someone else will |
| 19:50.54 | markit | that was the only core question |
| 19:51.05 | annma | globally yes as in $KDEDIRS/share/config |
| 19:51.05 | markit | annma: no problem, thanks anyway |
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| 19:51.30 | markit | annma: I've already be there, but is not something you can touch easely if you are not a developer |
| 19:51.35 | markit | knowing how to set |
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| 19:51.55 | markit | but start again is useless :) |
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| 19:53.17 | annma | if you're a sysadmin yo uneed to tweak things |
| 19:53.46 | annma | the doc I pasted the link for is how to do it and it's pretty easy |
| 19:54.07 | annma | globally you will amend KDE config files so to lock some features |
| 19:54.22 | annma | globally = in KDE global install dir |
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| 19:55.39 | markit | annma: ok, but let's say that I want to set "num lock" ON by default |
| 19:55.47 | markit | I've hard times find where do it |
| 19:55.53 | markit | I mean, what file and what key |
| 19:56.06 | markit | while I know perfectly whre with the System Setting panel |
| 19:56.34 | markit | so if I have to set 10 features, I've to spend a huge amount of times trying to figure out what file/key is affected |
| 19:56.46 | annma | so where it is in SystemSettings? |
| 19:56.57 | markit | maybe also there is not a global value set in those files, I'm pretty sure not all |
| 19:57.02 | annma | you deduce from local user config file what you need to do globally |
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| 19:57.31 | markit | annma: I thought there was a way to run systemsetting and make it affect the global settings |
| 19:57.32 | Arithmos-Sfx | hi |
| 19:57.57 | markit | like running as root, or run it with a special parameter, or whatever |
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| 19:59.12 | markit | also in kubuntu I find files in /usr/share/kde4/config/ but also in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/ |
| 19:59.19 | markit | just to add confusion to confusion, lol |
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| 20:45.08 | rubikcube | hi, can it be that posting to bugzilla is broken at the moment? |
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| 20:47.02 | rubikcube | http://pastebin.com/eUexXTTn |
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| 20:58.23 | rubikcube | works again.. |