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00:56.26 | fynn | Hi. In console, when I launch GNU screen, the number and name of the window gets published in the title bar. |
00:56.41 | fynn | Also, messages from screen get posted in the Konsole titlebar as well. |
00:56.46 | fynn | s/console/Konsole/ |
00:56.52 | fynn | how does that work? |
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01:38.38 | coldhost | on kde 4.4 sc can anyone tell me how to do when i click dashboard and after that click something on desktop - the dashboard can close itself |
01:38.44 | coldhost | is there any work around? |
01:40.49 | coldhost | anyone? |
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07:45.21 | sredna2 | hi |
07:45.51 | sredna2 | how can i create a solid action, so when i plug in a certain device, some action is offered? |
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08:03.43 | pensacola | anyone knows a good app to maintain an ipod music collection with kubuntu 10.04? |
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08:08.15 | Torch | sredna2: system settings -> advanced -> device actions |
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08:08.38 | Torch | pensacola: nothing beats amarok. |
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08:12.41 | teliti | Hello. Does anyone knows how to modify the underline in okular to underline a pdf document? |
08:12.56 | teliti | (it is to huge) |
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08:15.21 | pensacola | I can't figure out how to add or delete songs from my ipod with amarok (version 2.3.0) |
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08:16.09 | Torch | pensacola: your ipod ist just another collectin. you can right click on songs and pick "copy to collection" and then select the ipod. |
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08:16.21 | Torch | pensacola: there's also #amarok, i believe |
08:16.29 | pensacola | yep, I'm already asking there |
08:16.32 | pensacola | thx for the advice |
08:16.38 | pensacola | you guys rock ;) |
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08:29.17 | buscher | hello, my kontact doesn't start anymore, but kmail and korganizer work fine alone, with kde-4.4.2 |
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08:36.39 | sredna2 | Torch: thanks :) |
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08:48.14 | sredna | Torch: that module does not allow me to match my device though |
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08:49.01 | sredna | buscher: try starting from a konsole to see the output |
08:50.17 | terran4000 | howdy, does anyone know when the power management drop down menu issue will be solved? By issue I mean the menu is only 2-3 lines tall, and never shows other options. So it's impossible to tell what other options there are |
08:50.33 | buscher | sredna: nothing useful there, but I found http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting, will try that but have to reboot now, bbl |
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09:05.17 | pensacola | Torch: you have any idea if amarok can also manage playlists on an ipod? |
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09:09.15 | Torch | pensacola: no idea, i don't use playlists |
09:09.25 | pensacola | ok, thx |
09:11.34 | Torch | sredna: what device is that? |
09:12.56 | sredna | Torch: a usb->serial gps (garmin fortrex with a pl2303 usb->serial converter) |
09:14.06 | sredna | Torch: solid knows little about it, there are two entries, and it seems the best thing i can do is look for the string '67b' in the solid 'udi' string |
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09:15.24 | buscher | Ok I removed all akonadi start errors but my kontact still doesn't start, http://pastebin.com/08fRtvQ3 |
09:15.33 | buscher | kmail itself still starts+works fine |
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09:15.51 | sredna | kmail does not use akonadi yet |
09:15.54 | Torch | sredna: yes, i have an edge, i know what you mean |
09:16.00 | buscher | korganizer works too |
09:16.06 | Torch | sredna: these devices can only be identified with their USB id |
09:16.09 | Torch | sredna: that will work, though |
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09:16.17 | sredna | Torch: do you have an example of that? |
09:16.36 | Torch | sredna: sorry, no. i'd have to work that out myself, but i'm a little busy right now. |
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09:17.02 | sredna | i would love to have solid offering various actions, like starting gpsd, gebabbel, opencpn etc |
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09:19.12 | sredna | buscher: try 'akonadictl restart'. I have also had success moving ~/.local/akonadi out of the way when i had trouble with akonadi completely refused to. |
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09:20.52 | buscher | last message after restarting akonadi and starting kontact -> [akonadiserver] QStringList Akonadi::NepomukSearch::search(const QString&) Calling blockingQuery() failed! |
09:22.07 | buscher | sredna: you mean .config/akonadi/ ? |
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09:25.12 | Isil`Zha | hello. since recently qt-based applications tend to freeze for me. most recently kdesu (the screen that asks for the root password). what could be amiss? i tried to delete *rc files but it doesn't seem to help. reinstalling the respective applications didn't help either (i even reinstalled everything they depended on) |
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09:25.59 | buscher | sredna: moving .config/akonadi doesn't help |
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09:34.03 | SandGorgon | will kde 4.5 have tiling ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faOQAgapQYQ |
09:34.56 | cb400f | SandGorgon: http://kodeclutz.blogspot.com/2010/04/kwin-tiling-is-merged.html |
09:36.30 | SandGorgon | cb400f, awesome .. |
09:36.51 | cb400f | nah, kwin! :-) |
09:37.14 | cb400f | (pun intended) |
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09:38.45 | sredna | buscher: .local/share/akonadi, sorry :) |
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09:41.28 | buscher | sredna: but wouldn't this cause data los? |
09:42.11 | buscher | sredna: but still doesn't start |
09:42.17 | buscher | kontact I mean |
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09:45.00 | sredna2 | buscher: yes, if you delete that, you may loose some data. However, akonadi is not supposed to keep data on its own, only temporarily. However, the yet unusable contact groups are kept in the akonadi database |
09:45.44 | sredna2 | and you need to restart akonadi - probably stopping, then moving the data, then starting |
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09:48.24 | buscher | sredna2: I tried, but it doesn't work, akonadi starts fine, just kontact won't |
09:49.43 | sredna2 | buscher: what about kaddressbook? |
09:50.15 | buscher | starts fine alone |
09:50.33 | sredna2 | so what does kontact say if you start it from a konsole window? |
09:51.39 | buscher | http://pastebin.com/8r70T9Mp |
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09:55.13 | sredna2 | buscher: that does not look fatal? |
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09:56.57 | buscher | hm? |
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09:57.47 | tweety | hi all. |
09:58.14 | tweety | kann mir einer mal was in KDE 4 erklären / nachvollziehen? |
09:59.03 | tweety | ich war gerade in gimp, und wollte etwas zoomen (strg+mausrad) statt im gimp-fenster ist mein mauszeiger allerdings auf den desktop gerutscht. das resultat sind ganz seltsame einzelfenster als hintergrundbild!!! |
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09:59.36 | tweety | was soll das??? |
10:00.04 | pinotree | english please |
10:00.08 | tweety | oh.. sorry. |
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10:00.57 | tweety | is just found out a strange action at kde 4. usinge ctrl + mouse wheel at the desktop leads to a weird desktop look. |
10:01.19 | tweety | several backgrounds on a grey-white background. what is that for? |
10:02.34 | Isil`Zha | i'm thinking my above issue (kdesu's password screen freezes) could be caused by not actually using kde (i'm only using kde-based programs like kontact, kopete, etc). is there something that should be started but didn't get started? on the other hand this was actually working for me in the past |
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10:04.14 | Isil`Zha | tweety: that's supposed to give you an overview. if you click on one of the tiles it will bringt it to the foreground |
10:04.44 | tweety | nope.. it doesnt.. |
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10:04.58 | tweety | i am using ctrl + mouse wheel down |
10:05.09 | tweety | kde 4.4.2 |
10:05.42 | Isil`Zha | tweety: i'm not actually using kde. therefore i can't reproduce it right now. i just believe to remember that from last using it |
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10:06.03 | tweety | it really looks like a bug ;) |
10:06.26 | tweety | allthough well sorted |
10:07.05 | Isil`Zha | what does then happen if you select one of these windows you get lined up? nothing? |
10:07.23 | tweety | i cannot select anything of that |
10:07.37 | Isil`Zha | you can't click on it? |
10:08.22 | Isil`Zha | ich meine auswählen im sinn von anklicken. sorry ;) |
10:08.32 | tweety | ja, schon klar.. geht aber nicht! |
10:08.44 | tweety | kann ich irgendwo ein bild ablegen? |
10:09.08 | tweety | also dir schicken? |
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10:11.42 | Isil`Zha | good question. i would advise english if you want to hear other people's advise though |
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10:17.24 | Isil`Zha | good question. i would advise enghttp://sau.frubar.net/lish if you want to hear other people's advise though |
10:17.28 | Isil`Zha | ops sorry |
10:17.41 | Isil`Zha | tweety: http://sau.frubar.net/ |
10:17.48 | Isil`Zha | that's what i meant to write |
10:18.15 | zhick | tweety: that's the activity overview |
10:18.32 | tweety | zhick, i dont thinks so.. |
10:18.44 | zhick | tweety: when you mouseover an activity there'll appear a magnifier-glass |
10:18.48 | tweety | too weird! |
10:18.54 | tweety | yes |
10:19.37 | zhick | tweety: pressing it will select the activity |
10:19.54 | tweety | well, not really.. there are always 3 symbols displayed below those windows |
10:20.04 | zhick | tweety: from this view you can also create new activities and switch between them |
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10:21.22 | tweety | www.birdyshome.de/kde4-strange-windows.png |
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10:23.44 | QwertyM | tweety: click the zoom icon on it to enter that 'activity' |
10:24.34 | QwertyM | tweety: or else ctrl + mouse in on that :) |
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10:25.43 | tweety | i dont understand the real purpose of those "activities" |
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10:28.12 | tweety | now i am not coming back into the normal screen... |
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10:28.40 | QwertyM | tweety: they're much like virtual desktops but are called an 'activity' in the sense each one of them is to be used for different activities like say work, play, etc. Virtual desktops share widgets among them, activities can have different widgets in each. |
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10:29.36 | vonderer | hi everyone. Can I run KDE without plasma? |
10:29.36 | QwertyM | tweety: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Activities_and_the_Zooming_User_Interface_.28ZUI.29 |
10:30.04 | QwertyM | vonderer: yes, can run |
10:30.27 | tweety | hmpf.. zooming in just scrolls the activities up and down, but does not restore my desktop :( |
10:30.29 | vonderer | QwertyM, how? I just want KDE services running+openbox+tint2 |
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10:32.36 | QwertyM | vonderer: I don't know what openbox/tint2 are but you can disable plasma-desktop from loading via the autostart [for me the .desktop for its startup lies in ~/.config/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop - -set that to not start and it probably won't] |
10:32.56 | vonderer | thanks |
10:32.58 | SandGorgon | can we assign widgets to a particular desktop - i.e. I should only see some widgets if i'm on desktop 2, another set on desktop 3 and so on (I have already taken a look at workspaces ) |
10:33.18 | tweety | i think i dont like that activity screen... that really sucks... |
10:34.00 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: use activities for that purpose :) |
10:34.22 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: but, I think the panel will remain constant -- I don't know of a fix for that |
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10:35.36 | tweety | ok. got to leave.. |
10:35.41 | tweety | thanks for the help! |
10:35.43 | tweety | byebye |
10:35.46 | SandGorgon | QwertyM, hmm.. I think the whole concept of activities is unnecessary - you might as well have a desktop with specific widgets |
10:35.47 | QwertyM | tweety: you're on 4.4.2 right? Enter any activity (even if not what you were on) -> Right click desktop -> Desktop Activity Settings -> Mouse Actions -> Set a mouse shortcut for switching activities. Apply and use this shortcut to switch until you get yours |
10:36.20 | tweety | hm.. strange.. got to read the doc a little more i think ;) |
10:36.22 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: in that case ask plasma to let each of your virtual desktops be an activity [sigh, this difference must go!] |
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10:36.56 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: but afaik no way to 'assign' a widget for each virtual desktop |
10:37.03 | SandGorgon | QwertyM, I hear your sigh! but really.. can I assign an activity to each desktop ? |
10:37.21 | QwertyM | yes, have seen that config somewhere, lemme find it |
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10:38.36 | QwertyM | damn taskbar is screwed up :p |
10:39.43 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: I can access the option via the Pager widget's settings |
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10:40.23 | QwertyM | SandGorgon: Pager RClick -> Virtual Desktop Settings -> Check different activities for each desktop. Have heard it could be buggy at times though, be wary ;) |
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10:43.39 | SandGorgon | QwertyM, in 4.4.2 it is in System Settings -> Desktop -> Multiple Desktops -> Different activity for each desktop |
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10:44.47 | QwertyM | ah yeah :p |
10:45.09 | QwertyM | the pager leads to that as well methinks |
10:46.29 | SandGorgon | QwertyM, oh yeah.. I dont have the pager on my panel ! am depending more and more on Lancelot's runner (alt+f5) |
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12:57.03 | HarishS | hi.. i have some common Q_PROPERTY among different custom widgets .. how i can take them out and put them in a common class.. it seems qt don't support inheriting from two QObject |
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12:58.33 | annma | #qt HarishS |
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12:59.19 | HarishS | ok |
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12:59.48 | vonderer | hi again. is there any way to prevent plasma-desktop from loading? |
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13:00.09 | QwertyM | vonderer: the earlier trick didn't work? |
13:00.13 | vonderer | nope |
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13:00.26 | vonderer | thereâs no such *desktop file in my autorun directory |
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13:00.50 | QwertyM | vonderer: what KDE are you using? see in other paths (kde4-config --path autostart) |
13:01.46 | annma | vonderer: ask in your distro channel how they load it |
13:01.55 | annma | what do you want as desktop then? |
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13:02.06 | vonderer | QwertyM, thanks, found it |
13:02.28 | annma | what do you replace it with? |
13:02.29 | vonderer | annma, feh for wallpaper+tint2 for panel+openbox for windows |
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13:03.13 | annma | and it's better to start KDE nevertheless? |
13:03.13 | vonderer | all I want from KDE is integration, default filetypes and automount |
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13:03.32 | vonderer | no, I see it as the only way to enable such integration |
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13:04.12 | vonderer | if thereâs any way to start kde services without starting kde session, it would be great to use openbox-session instead |
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13:05.42 | vonderer | so, is there a way to start kde services without using kde session? |
13:06.18 | annma | what kde services? I suppose you can start them, yes |
13:06.28 | vonderer | file assiciations and default apps |
13:06.42 | annma | those are not services |
13:06.46 | vonderer | and automounting |
13:07.02 | annma | give KDE names for all this |
13:07.20 | vonderer | hell, if I knew them I wouldnât be asking here :)) |
13:07.33 | annma | I ran KDE4 apps on a KDE3 desktop for ex, people run KDE apps on a gnome desktop |
13:07.48 | annma | so I don't know what's the real problem for you |
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13:08.52 | vonderer | mmm. ok, let me try something and Iâll be back |
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13:12.00 | vonderer | ok, Iâve started an openbox session |
13:12.03 | vonderer | started chromium |
13:12.18 | vonderer | when I click on downloaded file, it opens Firefox |
13:12.27 | vonderer | though in KDE it would open ark |
13:13.01 | pinotree | chromium is not a kde application |
13:13.12 | annma | yup I was about to say so |
13:13.12 | vonderer | shit, thatâs what Iâm talking about! |
13:13.17 | vonderer | and it works in KDE |
13:13.22 | vonderer | but doesnât without it! |
13:13.32 | annma | well read Chromium help and online FAQ |
13:13.35 | vonderer | so, I need a service that makes it work started with my openbox session |
13:13.40 | pinotree | no |
13:13.44 | vonderer | what no? |
13:13.47 | vonderer | it works in KDE |
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13:13.52 | vonderer | and doesnât without it |
13:13.58 | vonderer | what service makes it work? |
13:14.07 | pinotree | there's *no* service |
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13:14.14 | pinotree | if chromium behaves differently in kde and outside kde, it's a chromium issue |
13:14.15 | vonderer | ok, whatâs there then? |
13:14.30 | vonderer | shit, every other non-kde program behaves the same way |
13:14.41 | vonderer | I donât want to configure it per-application |
13:14.53 | vonderer | I want to use something used by KDE what makes it work |
13:15.00 | vonderer | I just donât know what is it. |
13:15.08 | tsimpson | it probably uses xdg-open |
13:15.18 | pinotree | you don't know that, and you cannot know that, because there's no such thing |
13:15.33 | vonderer | so |
13:15.34 | vonderer | answer that |
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13:15.40 | vonderer | why does it work in KDE? |
13:15.57 | pinotree | if non-kde applications react to the environment they are in, that's _their_ way of working, we can do nothing about that |
13:16.02 | tsimpson | xdg-open actively checks fora KDE session and uses kfmclient iirc |
13:16.35 | vonderer | thanks, thatâs what I was asking about |
13:16.38 | vonderer | bye |
13:17.13 | pinotree | nice when people listen to exactly what they want, even if they don't know anything about that |
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13:34.23 | vonderer | hi again :)) FYI, to make system use KDE file associations, you should export DE=kde before starting anything |
13:34.44 | vonderer | thanks for the help anyway, I got a bit too excited :) |
13:34.57 | pinotree | that's not something kde's |
13:35.09 | vonderer | thatâs right, my mistake |
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13:35.30 | pinotree | (just like i told you above, fyi) |
13:35.51 | vonderer | thanks |
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13:41.06 | o_a | Hello people. I've got a annoying problem here. After some hours running, plasma-desktop makes X CPU go unexplainable high. Then, I have to kill plasma-desktop and run it again. |
13:41.32 | annma | o_a: is that a standard default KDE desktop? |
13:41.32 | o_a | Is anyone else experiencing this? |
13:41.48 | annma | first you need to try with a new user |
13:42.30 | annma | depending how much third part applets you added |
13:42.41 | annma | describe your panel and desktop please |
13:43.10 | o_a | Well, I have no third part applets but gmail-notifier |
13:43.24 | annma | nothing in panel? |
13:43.28 | pinotree | gmail-notifier is a "third part applet" ;) |
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13:43.41 | pinotree | try without it for a while, and see how things go |
13:43.50 | tuxick | incredibly slow scrolling in konq 4.4.2 on nvidia, any solution? |
13:43.56 | tuxick | and i mean incredibly |
13:43.58 | ziauddin | Hello |
13:44.10 | o_a | pinotree: anyways, the situation was the same without it |
13:44.30 | annma | o_a: then ask in your distro channel if you run default distros |
13:44.31 | o_a | annma: I have three panels: |
13:44.36 | annma | o_a: then ask in your distro channel if you run default distro settings |
13:44.38 | annma | ahh |
13:44.41 | annma | so that's not default |
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13:45.03 | annma | anyway even distro default can include stuff we do ot release ourselves |
13:45.10 | annma | ot/not |
13:45.17 | annma | I suggest you try a new user |
13:45.25 | o_a | OK |
13:45.26 | ziauddin | hello i am new in irc channel.what can i do now?? |
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13:45.55 | annma | ziauddin: do you run KDE? |
13:46.51 | ziauddin | no...i am now working in genome |
13:47.02 | ziauddin | in fedora |
13:47.08 | ziauddin | can u help me?? |
13:47.21 | edneymatias | :) |
13:47.21 | ziauddin | annma |
13:47.44 | annma | help you for what |
13:48.09 | annma | you can go to #fedora to get help for your distro |
13:50.01 | ziauddin | no...i need to know about this Konversation actually |
13:50.21 | annma | read the manual in Help menu ziauddin |
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13:52.11 | ziauddin | thanks annma..hey where are you from?? |
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13:52.32 | annma | from earth |
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13:53.10 | ziauddin | ha ha ha |
13:53.37 | ziauddin | I am also from earth>>>> |
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15:30.55 | samuel_9 | i upgraded to kde4 from kde3 and i haven't managed to configure kwrite/text-editing as it was before. opening up a >200kb html file with newlines removed kwrite becomes VERY slow, taking half a minute just to load up the file. earlier in kde3 kwrite had no problem with that. other problem is the find. searching a word from 500kb text file it takes several seconds to find a word at the middle of the file. again, kwrite/kde3 was fast. are |
15:30.56 | samuel_9 | these known problems? |
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15:32.18 | samuel_9 | my kde is 4.4.2 (opensuse 11.2 x64) |
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15:40.46 | Zorael | I get icon ghosting in the plasma systray widget when toggling hidden icons. I uploaded a (60kb) screencast at http://www.sendspace.com/file/4ave1a that sort of illustrates it. Is that worthy of a bug report? (Kubuntu lucid, Intel graphics) |
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15:44.44 | arkascha | what are the small plus and minus signs good for in the desktop folder plasmoid that appear when the mouse hovers over an icon ? |
15:45.29 | arkascha | they change between plus and minus when clicking, but I cannot see any sense in them... |
15:45.57 | arkascha | oh, sorry, using kde-4.4.2... |
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16:04.31 | twois10 | This issue still has not been fixed: when you go a full screen mode, screen saver should be disabled along with sleep mode, but so far it's not the case |
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16:05.46 | sreich | *sigh*. people who leave 10 minutes after asking a question and not receiving a response.. |
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16:06.45 | Jonathan_L | Hi. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04. There's no sound on my laptop. What can I do? |
16:07.43 | Zorael | Jonathan_L: Try in #ubuntu |
16:08.01 | Jonathan_L | I'm using KDE 4 |
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16:08.24 | Jonathan_L | how do I check the exact version? |
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16:09.32 | Jonathan_L | kubuntu-desktop |
16:09.55 | annma | look in any KDE app Help menu -> ABout KDE |
16:10.28 | Jonathan_L | 4.4.2 |
16:10.57 | annma | open systemsettings |
16:11.03 | annma | look at the sound tab |
16:11.30 | Jonathan_L | multimedia? |
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16:12.34 | annma | yes |
16:15.38 | samuel_9 | so nobody uses kwrite in kde4? what editor is recommended then? |
16:16.06 | cb400f | kate? |
16:16.19 | Zorael | I use kwrite |
16:16.32 | cb400f | me too.. for very basic edits |
16:17.16 | samuel_9 | cb400f: it's the same with kate, because to my udnerstanding the text component is the same in kwrite and kate |
16:18.14 | samuel_9 | Zorael & cb400f: just try the html editing example i mentioned. do you get 1min delay (cpu 100%) just for opening the file? |
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16:21.48 | cb400f | samuel_9: the biggest html file I have is about 174 kb and it opens with both kate and kwrite in a about 2 secs |
16:22.03 | cb400f | happen to use opensuse 11.2 with kde 4.4.2 too |
16:22.07 | samuel_9 | cb400f: did you remove the newlines? |
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16:26.14 | samuel_9 | cb400f: i'm not regexp expert but try this: tr -d '\n' < file.html > file2.html and then try opening the file2.html in kwrite |
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16:32.50 | Jonathan_L_ | Hi |
16:33.07 | Jonathan_L | (that's me on my phone) |
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16:37.11 | franxavior | hi there, is there any way to disable this desktop preview thing? |
16:37.37 | franxavior | everytime i hover over a folder of any type with sub items it displays the folder in a preview |
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16:40.06 | cb400f | franxavior: think option to disable that is planned for 4.5 :-( |
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16:40.36 | annma | I don't see it in trunk |
16:40.38 | franxavior | oh bummer |
16:40.49 | franxavior | i was told it would be here in 10.04 |
16:40.53 | franxavior | kubuntu |
16:40.55 | franxavior | that sux |
16:41.07 | annma | it could have been a distro hack |
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16:45.00 | sinthetek | can someone tell me the command to start control center from prompt with 4.4? |
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16:46.41 | pinotree | systemsettings |
16:46.41 | namero999 | hello everyone... i need help from creative people... |
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16:46.57 | sinthetek | ahh, thanks pinotree |
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16:47.27 | sinthetek | i figured that out at one point but forgot. googling wasn't very fruitful |
16:47.37 | sinthetek | (this time around) |
16:47.37 | alienBOB | namero999: don't ask to ask - just ask |
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16:47.46 | sinthetek | anyway, thanks again! |
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16:48.25 | namero999 | ok my app is ready and tested. i need to find a name for it :) |
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16:48.46 | cb400f | something with a K :-) |
16:49.00 | alienBOB | suk? |
16:49.02 | sreich | please not |
16:49.55 | namero999 | here's the bad part. I didn't know which channel to join to ask this kind of help... so i joined kde because i always liked it's community on th forums and irc... but my app is actually a webapp :) |
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16:50.21 | namero999 | and it's an online collaboration tool for creative people... we deals a lot with images |
16:50.31 | pinotree | namero999: ##linux for you |
16:51.00 | namero999 | too many people... |
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16:53.35 | yao_ziyuan | a but in the current kde 4.4.3: |
16:54.01 | yao_ziyuan | click an icon on the taskbar, |
16:54.04 | yao_ziyuan | e,g. konsole, |
16:54.15 | yao_ziyuan | and move the mouse up to the desktop as fast as possible |
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16:54.33 | yao_ziyuan | then there will be a small "konsole" taskbar button on the upper left |
16:54.42 | yao_ziyuan | a bug |
16:55.05 | QwertyM | what is this icon? a launcher or a taskbar entry? |
16:55.14 | yao_ziyuan | a launcher |
16:55.31 | yao_ziyuan | also, |
16:55.42 | yao_ziyuan | originally the taskbar should only has exactly 1 entry |
16:56.21 | yao_ziyuan | 1. let there be only one entry on the taskbar; |
16:56.42 | yao_ziyuan | 2. click a launcher icon, and then move the mouse to the desktop as fast as possible |
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16:57.13 | yao_ziyuan | 3. there will be an extra small taskbar entry for the newly launched program at the upper left of the taskbar |
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16:57.33 | yao_ziyuan | also, my taskbar settings are "do not group", "do not sort" |
16:57.57 | yao_ziyuan | and "force row settings" |
16:58.58 | QwertyM | am moving my mice 'as fast as possible' after clicking, but I don't see anything else happen except konsole launch -- using a trunk built 30 minutes ago |
16:59.04 | yao_ziyuan | the first entry on the taskbar should better be minimized to see this bug |
16:59.24 | yao_ziyuan | QwertyM: at first you have a taskbar entry and it is minimized |
16:59.37 | yao_ziyuan | QwertyM: then try the launch konsole |
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17:02.01 | QwertyM | yao_ziyuan: still no results, anyhow try to put these steps into a report on bugs.kde.org :) |
17:02.23 | yao_ziyuan | also, |
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17:02.37 | yao_ziyuan | set the taskbar setting "maximum rows: 1" instead of 2 |
17:03.00 | yao_ziyuan | if it's 2, the bug won't appear |
17:03.02 | QwertyM | I already have that :) [Though I still don't know why plasma asks me to 'force' it] |
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17:03.23 | yao_ziyuan | the bug isn't related to whether you "force row settings" |
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17:04.08 | yao_ziyuan | maybe it's my video card driver |
17:04.24 | yao_ziyuan | bugs can happen if things are drawn too simultaneously |
17:05.44 | yao_ziyuan | QwertyM: will give you a screenshot |
17:06.26 | yao_ziyuan | QwertyM: http://www.bytecool.com/temp/contents3.png |
17:07.43 | yao_ziyuan | that small taskbar entry will disappear if the mouse is back to the taskbar |
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18:38.36 | blendmaster1024 | if i were going to install kde on my system, and i wanted the very most supported i could get, i would want to compile from source instead of using my distro's, because then i'd have "vanilla", right? |
18:39.06 | annma | distros do a very job with it |
18:39.23 | blendmaster1024 | so vanilla is not worth compiling? |
18:39.28 | alienBOB | Of course it is |
18:39.32 | blendmaster1024 | ok |
18:39.32 | annma | depends onyour level |
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18:39.35 | alienBOB | Slackware installs a vanilla KDE |
18:39.44 | alienBOB | The best KDE there is - fast |
18:39.48 | blendmaster1024 | alienBOB, i'm on ubu :/ |
18:39.50 | annma | Mandriva installs a very stable desktop |
18:40.00 | alienBOB | blendmaster1024: I'll gladly guide you to Slackware ;-) |
18:40.10 | annma | I did not test KUbuntu but it's good |
18:40.23 | blendmaster1024 | alienBOB, too late, already set up camp on ubu. which is why i'm asking whether it's worth compiling |
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18:41.06 | alienBOB | Compiling on ubuntu is a hell in itself |
18:41.16 | annma | bah why? |
18:41.33 | annma | devels compile on all sort of distros, Ubuntu included |
18:41.37 | blendmaster1024 | compiling is easy, i'm all set up to compile all kinds of stuff |
18:42.00 | blendmaster1024 | the only problem i could think of is if it messes with directories ubu has stuff in already |
18:42.00 | annma | if you want to compile and are used to it you can go ahead then |
18:42.15 | annma | you can set a custom install dir |
18:42.17 | blendmaster1024 | annma, ok, so it is worth the compile time. thanks |
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18:42.27 | annma | even one with your user rights, no su involved |
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18:55.43 | zig_ | hi all |
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18:56.00 | zig_ | I have a question regarding "activities" |
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18:56.31 | zig_ | I am not sure I understand the concept : I can create new activites, but can I name them and switch between them ? I didn't find how |
18:59.40 | cb400f | you can switch between them by zooming out or with the activty switcher widget |
19:00.05 | cb400f | if you enable activities on different virtual desktops you can switch with the desktop pager too |
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19:01.03 | zig_ | ok thanks, I see now |
19:01.14 | zig_ | it a bit slow though :( |
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19:16.00 | zig_ | can I have one activity on 5 desktop and 1 different on the sixth ? |
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19:24.59 | zig_ | argl I can't select the same activity on two desktops :/ |
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20:15.14 | Digital_Pioneer | KRunner tends to block for a good 10-30 seconds randomly while I'm typing something into it. Anyone else seen this behavior? |
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20:25.55 | NJL | anybody have any idea how to make the tab plugin for Kate stay put? |
20:26.00 | NJL | I keep having to add it everytime I start kate |
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20:30.57 | fanti | hello! is it possible to use kopete for video chat via icq ? |
20:32.14 | NJL | fanti: sure, just add an ICQ account |
20:32.16 | NJL | oh |
20:32.18 | NJL | sorry |
20:32.21 | NJL | didnt see the video chat part |
20:32.37 | NJL | (the most important part of your question, too) |
20:33.16 | fanti | NJL: hmm i added my icq account but see no option for the video chat |
20:33.55 | NJL | sorry fantiI, I didn't see that part of your question, so I don't know the answer |
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21:33.47 | jaalto | The manual page of konqueror(1) reads "--bg, --background <color>", but the term <color> is not epxlained. In what notation it is specified? |
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21:36.01 | pinotree | jaalto: i guess a named color like "green" or "red", or an RGB exadecimal triplet "#RRGGBB" (like #FFFFFF for white) |
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21:39.27 | jaalto | pinotree: Neither ' --background '#CCCCCCC' nor '--background blue' seem to affect the TAB background color. This is 4:4.3.4 |
21:41.00 | icwiener_ | jaalto: Does it have _any_ effect for you? |
21:41.17 | jaalto | icwiener_: Nope. Nothing. |
21:41.34 | icwiener_ | Ok, I was just wondering. Here (4.4.2) nothing changes either. |
21:41.47 | jaalto | icwiener_: Or at least I only look ath if the TAB chnages color from standard white; it doesn't |
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21:42.35 | jaalto | icwiener_: Hm. Is this bug in the program? |
21:43.54 | jaalto | icwiener_: I would just like to have different color for ROOT |
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21:46.32 | icwiener_ | It's a Qt option so maybe it's not applicable for KDE apps? --title does not work here either ... it works but is then overwritten by the usual app name the second it is changed. |
21:46.37 | icwiener_ | jaalto: What is ROOT? |
21:48.16 | jaalto | 'root user' |
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21:51.51 | icwiener_ | Sorry no idea, I cannot get it to work either. |
21:52.53 | cjae | Hi, Is there some way while using twinview and the properitary nvidia driver, that kde could recognize from which panel an application is launched? |
21:53.32 | cjae | therefore putting it on the correct screen |
21:57.07 | cjae | or have to the cursor somehow click the screen that it is on so that when a application is called on that screen it does not show up on the other |
21:57.49 | cjae | I believe this happens because the nvidia driver does not properly support randr, right? |
22:00.02 | cjae | is very excited aboout nouveau |
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22:26.51 | cilkay | Hello. I know there is a way to maximize a window by bumping the edge of the screen with the window in KDE 4. Is there a similar trick to have two windows split the screen horizontally 50/50? |
22:31.30 | Tordek | I use trayer for my tray bar, but when kded4 is running, most of my kde tray icons are hidden; is there any fix? |
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22:42.11 | octocpp | what is the openbox window manager like, and how is it compared to kdm ? |
22:42.32 | thiago_home | kdm is not a window manager |
22:42.38 | octocpp | oh |
22:42.40 | thiago_home | so it doesn't compare at all |
22:42.45 | octocpp | ok, sorry |
22:43.03 | octocpp | well, how can you run kde from openbox then ? |
22:43.13 | thiago_home | kde is not an application |
22:43.16 | thiago_home | you can't run KDE |
22:43.34 | thiago_home | do you want to run the KDE Workspace? |
22:43.39 | octocpp | ont he openbox site it says you can run openbox as the window manager |
22:44.45 | thiago_home | yes, you can |
22:46.39 | thiago_home | I'd recommend that you start the KDE workspace normally, then just run: openbox --replace |
22:49.11 | octocpp | well, i was wondering how familier anyone was with is and wondered if they were on to something with performance, but itdoesnt seem like many people are very into it? |
22:49.45 | octocpp | is it something that would adversly affect kde4? or make it even more light weight? |
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22:53.22 | lamefun | hello |
22:53.53 | lamefun | The plasma has bug: if i load /usr/bin in folder view, Plasma will be not responsive until the whole folder content loads. |
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22:54.24 | thiago_home | please file it at bugs.kde.org |
22:55.37 | lamefun | ok |
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23:03.35 | lamefun | thiago_home: done |
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