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00:12.30ItWasHisSledDoes anyone know the name of the samba KDE control panel module?
00:12.50ItWasHisSledAnd would it be safe to remove that module?
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00:14.07dinosaurvskittenam I blind, or is there no code folding in Kile 2.0.83?
00:15.35ScuniziItWasHisSled: system-config-samba
00:15.54ItWasHisSledScunizi: Thank you :)
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00:16.07ScuniziItWasHisSled: good for gnome and kde
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00:56.58oneforallhmm see a list of dolphin changes but noth for the konqueror
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01:02.13jcolbyI am using kde 4.4.4 as my DE, is there I way that I can change settings for GTK apps?  For some reason the font for my firefox menu is huge
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01:03.04sreichjcolby: you could install gtk-chtheme or some variant, afik
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01:03.36jcolbysreich: I have it installed but it doesn't seem to do much
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02:14.13oddball33How come amarok can't play any sound if something else is accessing the sound card?
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02:23.29N9NUenable user switching for audio applications
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02:27.30oddball33N9NU: how?
02:28.00N9NUoh...what distro
02:28.04N9NUi thouht I was in Mandriva
02:28.16oddball33openSUSE, running KDE 4.4.4
02:28.36N9NUdo you have a GUI setup program for audio?
02:28.39N9NUdevice?
02:28.49oddball33just the 1 in systemsettings
02:28.57oddball33and the 1 in YAST
02:29.04oddball33intel onboard audio
02:29.28N9NUIm not very familiar with YAST...i assume that is your 'system control panel' ?
02:29.37oddball33more or less
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02:46.02oddball33How can I force Phonon to use ALSA instead of Pulseaudio
02:46.03oddball33?
02:53.19m_gokuoddball33 : why don't you just uninstall all those pulseaudio package ?
02:53.30oddball33that might work
02:53.37oddball33that never occurred to me
02:53.56oddball33it's the simple things
02:54.07m_goku:)
02:54.36oddball33of course, the Pulseaudio Sound Server is the only audio device listed the the Multimedia module in systemsettings
02:56.56oddball33so it might actually not work
02:57.31m_gokuthat's weird
02:57.50oddball33welcome to my world
02:58.40m_gokuwell as far as i know phonon do not use pulseaudio yet, except for mandriva
02:58.54m_gokuso it should use alsa by default
02:58.58oddball33shrugs
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03:04.25m_gokuprobably there are problem with your audio device detection
03:04.25oddball33srew it
03:04.45oddball33probably
03:05.00oddball33I'll try again tomorrow
03:05.06oddball33thanks anyway
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03:05.21oddball33goes to bed now
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04:40.55oneforalldarn every time I print with my hp I get the knitify crash . Plus why is the popup pink with yellow text O.o
04:41.05oneforallknotify*
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04:43.28djustice?^
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04:59.54the_gamerhi folks, i got a problem with kmail. i want to have lists containing e-mailadresses. i create a mail and click on "save list" i give it a name and store it. but neither is the listname recognized when i enter it as a recipientname neither can i find it in the adressbook
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05:00.14the_gamerhow to create and get the list in kmail?
05:01.01the_gameror where do i find my created list? or how to send e-mails to the list?
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05:02.59the_gameri got kmail 1.13.2
05:04.09the_gamereven when i select "new message to mailinglist" there are only the contacts in the adressbook, none of the lists i saved
05:04.22the_gamerdid i do something wrong?
05:04.35the_gameror is there a known issue?
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05:17.12the_gamercould anybody please tell me how to use adresslists in kmail?
05:17.28the_gamerit seems to not save the lists no matter what i do
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06:01.29the_gamercould anybody please tell me how to use adresslists in kmail? it seems to not save the lists no matter what i do
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07:00.22kaiokenHow do I switch to KDE Enviornment right now I am using Gnome deskop environment
07:00.30kaiokenI have KDE installed
07:00.43kaiokenBut dont know how to switch b/w GNOME and KDE
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07:35.33sje46hey, umm...how do I connect to the internet?
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07:40.27sje46anyone have any ideas?
07:40.36madlLOL
07:41.05madlhow do you connect to freenode without internet ?
07:41.15celeritasyou imagine it
07:41.16mikeplus64Homing pigeon.
07:42.01sje46celeritas: mikeplus64 : you are being unhelpful
07:42.23sje46seriously, I don't know if this is a problem with kde or with archlinux
07:42.30sje46where is the network manager?
07:43.24celeritassje46, do you have a browser installed? and what distro are you using?
07:43.38sje46yeah I have a browser, and arch linux
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07:44.33madlhttp://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#KDE4
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07:44.39madlsje46: ^
07:45.10celeritassje46, is the browser not opening windows?
07:45.13sje46how am I supposed to get that without internet?
07:45.17sje46it's opening windows
07:45.47mikeplus64How are you talking on Freenode when you don't have internet access? Or is this on another computer?
07:45.59celeritasah, well you are on another computer right?
07:46.20sje46....do I really have to answer this question?  =/
07:46.29sje46yeah, I'm on a different computer
07:46.32sje46same network though
07:47.02sje46in fact I connected both ethernet cords right next to each other
07:47.04celeritaswell, do ifconfig -a
07:47.05madlwell, then visit the link from the same computer you are using irc
07:47.16mikeplus64What does running say... 'ping -c 3 google.com' return?
07:47.28sje46it returns nothing, mikeplus64
07:47.39mikeplus64Then it's not a problem to do with KDE.
07:47.47celeritasyeah, its not kde
07:48.02celeritastry ifconfig eth0 up
07:48.54sje46well, not suggesting that it's a problem with kde...I'm just wondering if I have to connect to the internet somewehre
07:49.01sje46like if I have to click on an applet
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07:49.37celeritasnot exactly, as kde is only a graphical interface
07:49.50sje46well, gnome has one
07:49.50celeritasyou should be able to ping in a terminal and receive a response
07:50.02sje46little thing in the panel you click, says what networks are available
07:50.05celeritaskde does have a network manager
07:50.06sje46doesn't kde have one of those?
07:50.14sje46well, that's what I'm looking for
07:50.19mikeplus64sje46: I think your question is more suitable in #archlinux .
07:50.44celeritasunder settings, internet and network, network interfaces
07:50.52celeritasit should show you the interfaces that are up
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07:51.07celeritasif none are listed, you need a manager to configure them
07:51.15celeritastry using wicd
07:51.22mikeplus64wicd ftwtwtwtwtwtw.
07:51.29sje46mikeplus64: if it turns out that the case isn't simply I can't find the network manager, sure mikeplus
07:51.42sje46celeritas: there is no "internet and network"
07:51.50sje46you mean network settings?
07:51.55celeritassure
07:52.03celeritaskde 4 or 3?
07:52.25sje46KDE 4.4.4
07:53.10sje46there is no "wicd" mikeplus64
07:53.20mikeplus64You have to install it.
07:53.28celeritaspacman -Sy wicd
07:53.31celeritasto install it
07:53.37mikeplus64sje46: Is the default network daemon running or did it fail or what? ( try running '/etc/rc.d/network restart' and if it does start OK then your network should work )
07:53.43sje46alright...I'll do that when I get internet
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07:53.52celeritasrun using wicd-client
07:54.09celeritassje46, what does ifconfig -a return?
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07:55.13sje46hey hey!  thanks mikeplus64
07:55.32mikeplus64lolo
07:55.47mikeplus64sje46: Does 'network' run at start-up?
07:56.17sje46let me check...
07:56.49mikeplus64In rc.conf in "DAEMONS=" there should be a 'network'.
07:57.23sje46I have networkmanager
07:57.38mikeplus64But is networkmanager installed?
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07:58.11mikeplus64To check if it is try running 'NetworkManager'.
07:58.19sje46it is now :P
07:58.32mikeplus64You don't need it if the default 'network' works fine
07:58.37mikeplus64And by the looks of it it does.
07:58.49sje46there is no command called networkmanager
07:59.04mikeplus64NetworkManager
07:59.08mikeplus64It's case sensitive.
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07:59.30sje46ah
07:59.35sje46where does networkmanager appear?
07:59.48mikeplus64I'm not sure, I don't use it.
08:00.14mikeplus64Your connection worked after you ran '/etc/rc.d/network restart', right?
08:00.21sje46it did
08:00.42sje46wait, so, should I have network in there too?  in the daemons array?
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08:02.06mikeplus64Put a '!' in front of 'networkmanager' in DAEMONS and add 'network' to it too. ( so it should look like "DAEMONS=([otherdaemons] !networkmanager network [otherdaemons])" )
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08:02.31mikeplus64So that networkmanager doesn't run at start-up and network does.
08:02.59mikeplus64Unless you really want networkmanager for some reason. ( without it your connection worked though, but your choice )
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08:05.04mikeplus64And then the next time you boot up your connection should be working.
08:05.28sje46alright...sorry it was such a dumb question, taht didn't really have to do with kde...I just thought I couldn't find the network manager
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08:06.03mikeplus64sje46: No problem for. :)
08:06.09mikeplus64*without the for
08:06.15mikeplus64How did that 'for' get there...
08:06.16mikeplus64lol
08:06.46sje46kde is beautiful, btw.
08:07.01sje46or the theme is.  Might just be the theme
08:07.47mikeplus64sje46: Personally I really like the Plasma theme 'Glassified' and the Qt theme 'Bespin'.
08:07.54mikeplus64You can find 'bespin-svn' in the AUR.
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08:25.16tuxickgot a kubuntu here where kicker doesn't maintain the "recently used"
08:25.32thiago_homekicker?
08:25.41tuxickor at least on startup i only get some urls i used in the past
08:25.50tuxickoh dear, name was changed again?
08:25.54thiago_homeare you still in KDE 3 ?
08:25.55tuxickthe "start" thingie?
08:26.07tuxickhey i'm too old for pokemon
08:26.15tuxicki can't keep track of all those names
08:26.20tuxicki thought it was called kicker :)
08:26.23thiago_homeit has only changed once in the past 5 years
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08:26.26thiago_homeit's plasma
08:26.33tuxickthe 'start' thingie?
08:26.47thiago_homethe K menu, yes
08:26.55pinotreeno, that's a menu applet (just like in kde3, fyi)
08:27.14tuxicki totally fail to see any association with 'plasma' there
08:27.23thiago_homeplasma is the application
08:27.28thiago_homethe menu is an applet to plasma
08:27.34thiago_homekicker doesn't exist in version 4
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08:28.55thiago_homethe previous name change was in 2000 with kpanel becoming kicker
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10:34.40pedrochi, i am looking for a viewer for .eps files
10:35.51tuxickokular won't do that then?
10:36.25pinotreegwenview or okular?
10:36.27pedrocfor kde 3.5
10:36.35pinotreegwenview?
10:36.39pinotreekuickshow?
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10:37.21pedrockuickshow works, thanks
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12:05.41senorpedrohola
12:05.43senorpedromy alt+f2 application lauchner doesnt work anymore
12:05.51senorpedrohow can i enable it back again?
12:06.04senorpedroi cant find the menu item in the system settings
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12:08.11senorpedrook i got the setting, and it is correct
12:08.26senorpedroso the launcher is buggy?
12:08.36senorpedrois there a error log for kde or something like that?
12:10.34thiago_home~/.xsession-errors, if you logged in via kdm
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12:10.38thiago_homeis krunner running?
12:10.45senorpedroall the shortcuts under "oberfläche zur ausführung von befehlen" dont work...
12:10.49senorpedrothiago_home: dont know
12:10.59thiago_homefind out
12:11.56senorpedrops aux|grep krunner => nope
12:11.56thiago_homeis kglobalacceld running?
12:11.56thiago_homestart krunner
12:11.57senorpedrojust "krunner" ?
12:11.57thiago_homeyes
12:12.10senorpedrook it runs, now alt+f2 works. muchas gracias thiago_home :)
12:12.45senorpedrobtw when starting krunner, i got 2 errors (error in thread ...). is this important?
12:12.59thiago_homeno
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12:21.03h4x07sup
12:21.23h4x07can sombody help me
12:21.24h4x07?
12:22.17h4x07hellppzorr
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13:48.23nerdy_kidi can only change plasma theme once, then i have to kill plasma and restart it to change the theme. any ideas?
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13:57.55nerdy_kidi cant change my plasma theme more then once, help please?
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14:45.46nerdy_kidmy plasma theme wont change more then once, something in my user account it causing it -- i dont want to change accounts.  help please?
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15:04.38Rebellsdo you guys know which app controls the laptop battery monitor that shows up in the tray bar?
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15:05.20Rebellsi am using debian lenny with KDE 3.5.10
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15:09.57cb400fkpowersave.. or klaptop I guess
15:11.06nerdy_kidcant change my plasma theme more then once :(
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15:13.08Sho_Rebells: powerdevil
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15:14.37Rebellspowerdevil isn't there, but kpowersave is there, but this seems to be different from the applet I used to have, so I am trying this out, it has got lot more features
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15:15.33cb400fpowerdevil is the contemporay thing.. kpowersave and klaptop are things of the distant past >:-)
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15:17.43Rebellsoh ok, i hope its good, will try it out with KDE 4
15:17.58Sho_powerdevil has a lot of features, too, but since powerdevil is the official one, its settings are in System Settings, not in the tray icon
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15:18.27Rebellsis powerdevil available for 3.5.10?
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15:19.08Sho_nope
15:20.29lemmanerdy_kid: try moving your plasma config file somewhere safe and let plasma create new ones. then try if it works.
15:20.36pinotreefor kde 3.5 kpowersave is quite good
15:20.50lemmanerdy_kid: hint: you should probably do it while plasma is not running (eg. from console or with plasma-desktop not running)
15:21.09nerdy_kidlemma i removed all of .kde and it didnt help, plasma was running though...
15:21.35lemmanerdy_kid: afaict plasma recreates the config files on exiting, so if something is really really broken it might still not work.
15:21.37Rebellsyes, i agree, its' good
15:21.56nerdy_kidlemma ok, ill try with plasma killed.
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15:24.42nerdy_kidlemma hmm now i can change the theme twice
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15:25.45nerdy_kidlemma im going to try loging out of kde and wiping the config then, brb :)
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15:28.28Cool_Chello good folks. i have an issue in kde 4.4.3 where old cd/dvd are not cleared from the device list so after inserting a new disc, it looks like there are multiple drives. anyone have a clue how to fix this?
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16:08.57noppehow can i get rid of the network manager icon in the tray in kde 4.4.4?
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16:10.25pumphausnoppe: unlock widgets, then remove it
16:10.38pumphausif it's the network manager plasmoid
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16:19.34nerdy_kidlemma i decided to just create a new account, thanks for your help though :)
16:19.46lemmanerdy_kid: you're welcome. does it work with the new account?
16:20.21nerdy_kidlemma yeah, i just cant figure out why the other account was busted :-/
16:21.10nerdy_kidoh well, as long as it doesnt happen again
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16:23.04lemmanerdy_kid: if it does, be sure to remember how it happened so maybe you can file a bug for it
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16:23.59nerdy_kidlemma yeah :) its never ever happened before though, it was probably a permissions thing somewhere.  (i had been messing transfering my kde settins to root before it happened)
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16:24.26lemmanerdy_kid: oh yeah, that hints to what might have gone wrong
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16:25.26nerdy_kidlemma yeah somewhere in my filesystem.... anyway i made a new account and since i encrypted my home partition i got to /copy/ like 40gbs of data instead of just moving it x-( sooo mad....
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16:44.14freedom1where was that config where u put dpi in ? my fonts are way too laarge
16:44.40shadeslayer_freedom1: its in systemsettings > appearence
16:44.40Sho_System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
16:45.09freedom1shadeslayer_: NO
16:45.12freedom1not hat
16:45.16freedom1not that .. sorry
16:45.37shadeslayer_uh what?
16:45.51freedom1shadeslayer_: sorry yea thats it :D tnx
16:46.00shadeslayer_hehe.. np :D
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16:46.57d3x:)
16:47.48GNU\colossus…and you're citing pop songs
16:48.02d3xyeah, i do!
16:48.04d3xso what?
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17:14.05bittinHello, i was trying to Update my Grand Paretns Kubuntu, system but Kpackagekit failed when it was 22minutes left of installing packages and i rebooted the computer, to see what happend and now i got a broken Kubuntu system, is there anyway to let it continue the update, or check what packages its missing?
17:14.38sreichbittin: #kubuntu
17:14.47bittinasked there also
17:15.09sreichdoesn't matter; this isn't a kde issue
17:15.32cb400fbittin: you might want to try apt-get instead I guess.. apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that
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17:22.19ShinyDoofyhey there. are the sysadmins for bugs.kde.org on here?
17:22.54ShinyDoofyi seem to be running into 500 internal server errors on it trying to report/comment on a bug
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19:15.40kde_is_awesomeI use archlinux (if that matters)
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19:16.16kde_is_awesomeanyway I want to know the answer
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19:19.59scbkde_is_awesome: me too!
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19:22.22kde_is_awesomedoes anyone know?
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19:23.44pinotreekde_is_awesome: be patient on irc
19:24.07kde_is_awesomeok
19:24.34kde_is_awesomeI found it on KDE Help Center yet, it does nothing
19:24.57kde_is_awesomeIt says ~/.clanbomber/maps
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19:35.56ariel_gis there a way to make a device action default, so when i insert a audio cd it takes a specific action, rather than prompting me? using kde 4.3.5
19:36.27kde_is_awesomeSomeone may be answering question in #kdegames, those who want to know
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19:46.49Nece228hi, sometimes i see that dolphin hover effect on icon, slows down the whole dolphin, can you reproduce same? try to select many files in dolphin and you will see that selection marker lags
19:47.50Gaurav__I need help
19:47.56Nece228that bug didnt exist in kde 4.3
19:47.59javier_Nece228: you mean the + and - signs, right?
19:48.19Gaurav__can someone tell me how to play mp3 on my fedora
19:48.27Nece228javier_, yeah that hover when + and - appears
19:48.36kde_is_awesomeyum install vlc (I think)
19:48.38kde_is_awesomevlc
19:48.51javier_Gaurav__: try asking in #fedora
19:49.15kde_is_awesomeI just wrote: yum install vlc && vlc
19:49.37Gaurav__i am new to in here so doent know what to do sorry.... let me check #fedora
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19:49.46javier_Nece228: I have selected 25 files and that doesn't happen here (4.4.3)
19:50.17Nece228javier_, well can you please try to close dolphin and reopen it several times, then this should happen
19:50.20Nece228it doesnt happen always
19:50.40Nece228maybe thats because of my nvidia card driver, its 9500gt 1gb
19:50.48Nece228but my pc is brand new
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19:51.32javier_Nece228: nope, it doesn't happen
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19:52.15Nece228javier_: then why it happens to me D:
19:52.21Nece228its annoying
19:52.49javier_Nece228: perhaps it's related your graphics card driver or it could be distro-related
19:52.58javier_*related to
19:53.16javier_Nece228: try a Live CD and see if it happens
19:53.26Nece228javier_: well i tried to disable effects, change wm nothing happens. but as i tried this doesnt happen in kde 4.5
19:54.06Nece228in fact, my pc is athlon II 250 x2 3ghz, 2gb ram, its really powerful for usual tasks
19:55.16javier_Nece228: have you tried with a new user?
19:55.39Nece228javier_: i even tried to reinstall whole arch linux
19:55.48Nece228installed 64 bit arch now, still the same issue
19:55.53Nece228with 4.4.4 too
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20:12.56N9NUsomeone needs to look at the KDE forum registration/log-in system....it's severaly borked
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22:36.41nerdy_kidany alternitives to ark?  ark slows down my context menu big time.
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22:42.09zeltakhya..anyone know of an plasmoid to get mac like menus in the taskbar?
22:42.33thiago_homedoesn't exist yet
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22:44.22sreichzeltak: well, there is this http://agateau.wordpress.com/2010/05/10/getting-menus-out-of-application-windows/
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22:45.19zeltaksreich: nice
22:45.57nerdy_kidzeltak or you could go the safe way with bespin + xbar
22:46.06zeltaki wonder if there is an arch package for that
22:46.13zeltakbespin_xbar?
22:46.18zeltakwhats that?
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22:47.01nerdy_kidzeltak bespin is a widget style for kde that supports a hackish plasmoid called xbar.  xbar allows you to take to menu out of apps.
22:47.18zeltakhmmm gothcha ill look into it thx nerdy_kid
22:47.37nerdy_kidzeltak sure :)  should have a package in your repos :)
22:47.38zeltaknerdy_kid: u have any experience with it? is it stable?
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22:48.27nerdy_kidzeltak oh yeah, very stable.  I just personally dont like it.  Xbar becomes a task switcher when no window is focused too.  one sec, ill see if i can pull a vid for you
22:48.44zeltakkk thx nerdy_kid
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22:50.04nerdy_kidzeltak http://www.finex.org/menu-globale-compatibile-con-gnome-bespin-xbar.html there is a screenie, sorry for the different language lol
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22:50.23zeltakno worries :) thx nerdy_kid
22:50.55nerdy_kidhave fun :)
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22:52.38zeltakthx :)
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23:03.02dinosaurvskittenwhy does it take ~4 seconds for open file dialogs to open in KDE (4.3.2) applications like kate and kile?
23:03.24sreichit's probably waking up your disks
23:03.35dinosaurvskittenevery single time?
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23:04.17sreichwell, have you opened it then closed it then opened it within a small interval?
23:04.21dinosaurvskittenyep
23:04.26sreichand reproducible?
23:04.42dinosaurvskittenI don't remember it ever being fast
23:04.49dinosaurvskittenso yes, reproducible
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23:06.56sreichis it opening to a directory that requires a lot of loading?
23:07.19sreiche.g. the dialog isn't instant on my computer either, but it's a lot less than 4 seconds
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23:09.57dinosaurvskittenthere's only about 20 files in that directory. Hang on, I'll try in an empty one
23:10.21dinosaurvskittenstill 2-4 seconds
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23:14.21javier_does anyone know the location of kickoff's "kde desktop" image?
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23:14.41sreichimage?
23:14.41javier_I can't find it :(
23:14.46javier_yes
23:14.53sreichlike..the icon?
23:15.49javier_sreich: http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/linux_magazin/storage/images/media/linux_magazine_eng_us/images/kde4_kickoff_reference/228219-1-eng-US/kde4_kickoff_reference.png
23:16.00javier_oops, long url
23:16.41javier_i'm referring to the small image, not the icon
23:17.33sreichwaits for internet
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23:21.12sreichjavier_: meh, thought I knew..no idea
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23:35.49javier_it's ok
23:35.56javier_keeps searching
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23:44.47N9NUwinrar for *nux
23:45.43underscoresN9NU: there is an application for the terminal called "unrar" for linux that can open and extract .rar archives
23:46.07N9NUyeah i know. i was just throwin out some gui apps
23:46.12N9NUCLI is much faster
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23:47.17huntHi, I run kde sc 4.5 beta 1, I was looking forward to the new blur effect, but it is not visible to me, the effect is enabled in system settings...
23:47.33N9NUwoah! your ahead of us all dude
23:48.40huntI sacrifice myself to make the release better for you all ;)
23:48.49sreichlol
23:49.03N9NUi didnt even know 4.5 b1 was out
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23:49.50sreichwe try to cover it up ;-)
23:49.57N9NUsweetness
23:50.31N9NUim only running KDE 2.1 :(
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23:51.08N9NUjeremy m
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23:52.46hunthttp://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot6hf.png thats it, I dont see blur, do you?
23:53.35N9NUno blur here
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