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00:40.17blue_annahi -- I'm trying to install korundum on ubuntu lucid -- I get an error "ruby.h" not found, but it is clearly installed on the system http://paste.ubuntu.com/446911/
00:41.25Neutroniumhello, are the any recommendations for an XML and XSLT editor that's integrated with KDE4?
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01:36.20gem_catwhen I exit kde it gets to that screen were the cursor goes away and gets stuck - is there a log somewhere that might give me an idea what is happening?
01:37.10gem_catstuck = unresponsive
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01:38.55gem_catthis happened after installing the wacom package
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02:28.59ershadCould you help me to install a theme downloaded from kde-look.org? It's a tar.gz archive which contains a .qss and .bespin files. I'm running KDE 4.4.4.
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02:41.11oneforallweird k3b compaining that wav files aren't wav . they work in xmms, amarok etc
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02:43.02nickalshttp://aquaneeds.com/images/run.jpg
02:43.35oneforall01 999,999.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 24 bit, stereo 96000 Hz
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03:02.03ershadWhich is the application to install KDE themes?
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03:10.02Kyrilershad : system settings > workspace appearance > window decoration
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03:10.45Kyriland application appearance
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03:10.52MrGrimanyone know if it's still possible to obtain a stuffed konqi? The links at http://events.kde.org/resources/ are broken
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03:10.59dchmelikwhen I edit the KDE menus, it does not save my changes.
03:11.21dchmelikI am using 4.4.3 on Slackware64... I upgraded from 3.5
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03:12.50OolonColluphidAnyone know of a way to make desktop application open on a specific desktop?
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03:48.48alecbenzerwhat's the name of the desktop effect that causes a window to show up (and all others to darken) when I mouse over it on the bottom taskbar?
03:48.56alecbenzerif it even is a desktop effect
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03:54.16OolonColluphidalecbenzer: I'm not sure if that is a single effect, maybe Dim Inactive from All Effects plus sometihng like Focus Follows Mouse
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04:01.37OolonColluphidalecbenzer: or maybe you might find what you want in the task manager settings
04:02.38alecbenzerOolonColluphid: o, found it. it was Highlight Window under All Effects -> Apperance. must've missed it before
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04:06.15OolonColluphidalecbenzer: there is also a setting in the Task Manager Settings called, Highlight windows, but it doesn't seem to do anything on my taskbar
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04:09.40alecbenzerOolonColluphid: hrm, ya, I saw that too, though I think I misread it and thought it was talking about highlighting the entries in the taskbar, not the windows themselves
04:09.49alecbenzerOolonColluphid: still, I don't think it changed anything for me
04:12.21alecbenzero, also, i asked this in #kate but I didn't get an answer, thought I try here: is there a resource somewhere for creating syntax modes for other languages [in kate]?
04:12.35OolonColluphidalecbenzer: yeah, maybe only noticeable if using a theme that doesn't already highlight taskbar entries
04:13.51OolonColluphidalecbenzer: yes, you can make your own schemas under Font & Colors
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04:15.00oneforallhmm is k2b just not liking a stereo wav
04:15.04oneforallk3b*
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04:15.12OolonColluphidunder the Editor Component in Configure Kate
04:15.15oneforallor the 96000 Hz
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04:22.47hanibanaahi all
04:23.30hanibanaamy Konsole(KDE4) menu bar has disappeared; how can i restore it? any shortkey?
04:26.56MrGrimhanibanaa: control+m is the standard shortcut for that
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04:28.11hanibanaadoes NOT work MyGrim; also Ctrl+Shift+M
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04:30.31MrGrimoh well that's interesting.. my konsole doesn't list a shortcut for that ...
04:30.40MrGrimthat's almost certainly a bug
04:32.10MrGrimoh, right click inside the app
04:32.15MrGrimshow menu bar is a context item
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04:38.44hanibanaaMyGrim: thanks :) It's weird... sometimes and also yesterday, that right-click context menu does not open...
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05:01.44oneforalldrn even cdrecord bails out on those wave
05:01.52oneforallcdrecord: Inappropriate audio coding in '01 999,999.wav'
05:02.50oneforallplay with xmms,amarok, sox etc
05:02.56oneforallsox/aplay
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06:40.52ershadHello, I'm using KDE 4.4.4, Have some contacts in KAddressbook, but I couldn't access it in kmail. Is that a bug?
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07:36.20HotMixHi everybody... how can i make my changes permanent, done with the xset command?
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07:37.52GNU\colossusHotMix: use an xinitrc or your WM's/DE's startup files to call xset the way you just did.
07:38.58HotMixmmm.... where can i fin this 'xinitrc' ?
07:39.14GNU\colossus~/.xinitrc
07:39.15apt~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred.  xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead.
07:39.24GNU\colossusI'm not positive it's executed by KDE though
07:39.39pinotreeby X, not kde
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07:39.56HotMixi thought i had to modify some kde session settings
07:40.14HotMixbecause changes are lost after i end the session
07:40.20GNU\colossusHotMix: you can also create a script that runs xset for you in ~/.kde4/Autostart/
07:40.46HotMixi'll look for that ;)
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08:57.16Robinuxhey guys, is there a yahoo messenger for KDE :D
08:57.24pprkutkopete
08:57.38Robinux:D
08:58.14Robinuxpprkut you're a savior
08:58.16RobinuxThX
08:58.40pprkutnp
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09:08.18Robinuxpprkut, it seems it connected
09:08.26Robinuxbut i can't see my contact list
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09:09.08Robinuxwell is there another multi protocol messenger you can recommend me
09:09.09Robinuxto try
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09:13.07pprkutpidgin, but that's not kde
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09:13.42Piggzand I'm sure kopete should work, its well tested
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09:59.32sgo11hi, what is the best/default programming editor in KDE now?
10:02.25avenirsgo11:  default - kate, i think. best - couln't tell you
10:03.13sgo11avenir, still kate? I thought there were some new ones now. ^_^ got it. thanks. I used to use vim.
10:04.45Piggzkdevelop
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10:06.15rohdefdoes anyone know a widget or app that can send sms's using an android phone?
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10:07.23sgo11Piggz, thanks. that is something new. but it's not installed in my kde. will look for it.
10:07.40NthDegreeDoes anyone know of any 64-bit Java issues with Konqueror?
10:07.57NthDegreeI get the following when trying runescape:
10:08.13NthDegreejava.lang.NullPointerException;at java.util.Hashtable.put(Unknown Source);at org.kde.kjas.server.KJASProtocolHandler.processCommand(KJASProtocolHandler.java:312);at org.kde.kjas.server.KJASProtocolHandler.commandLoop(KJASProtocolHandler.java:89);at org.kde.kjas.server.Main.main(Main.java:175);
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10:41.03SandGorgonhey guys.. running 4.4.80 (4.5 beta 1) - how do I get a different wallpaper for each virtual desktop  ? I have already enabled "different widgets for each desktop" ?
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11:00.08amgarchinghi, I've lost the taskbar applet, the KDE panel does not show window buttons anymore. How do I restore it?
11:00.20amgarchingthis is kde 4.4.2
11:01.53amgarchingI looked at all available widgets, there is only a "Window list", but it is not what I am looking for
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11:07.44amgarchingsee also this http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=87896 there is no solution though
11:10.22mikeplus64amarching: the task bar plasmoid is called 'task manager'.
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11:14.27amgarchingthanks a lot, mikeplus64, window buttons are back!
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11:16.09oneforallso konqueror (file mode) in 4.4.4 supposed to have the places or something like it ?
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11:25.46kde_pepooneforall, in 4.5
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11:28.31Mathmanhi.  would there be any kde app that I could use like a stop watch?
11:28.46oneforallah ok thanks . maybe I should just grab the idff :)
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11:36.12google01103Mathman - try the timoid widget
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13:05.25krikoI'm transfering 20 files via bluetooth and my screen is filling up with dialogs
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14:14.05Moultis there a keybinding to switch between window tabs?
14:14.10ufahi!
14:14.30Moultand another question, is there a way to group tabbed windows in the taskbar as well?
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14:18.37benutzer_hi I am using kde on debian sid, I want to change my login screen but when I go: systemsettings->login manager all buttons are grayed out, what can I do?
14:19.21Moultbenutzer_: run system settings as a root user. su - (or sudo) systemsettings
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14:20.31mazzachreWhat protocols will kopete currently do webcam chat in? I can't seem to find a clear list anywhere :(
14:21.28benutzer_Hoult this is what I get, if I do so: http://pastebin.ca/1879765
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14:22.21meGeniusfrom where can i get kde-config??
14:22.55Moultbenutzer_: is dbus running?
14:22.58MoultmeGenius: systemsettings
14:23.11benutzer_Hoult how can i check?
14:23.19meGeniusMoult: what do you mean??
14:23.37Moultbenutzer_: i'm not familiar with the service management on debian. perhaps /etc/init.d/dbus?
14:23.59MoultmeGenius: that is the command. it should also be available in KickOff (the "start menu") as System Settings.
14:24.22MoultmeGenius: if you mean where are the configurations stored, that would be ~/.kde(4)/(share/config)
14:25.03benutzer_Hoult yes it is running
14:27.08Moultbenutzer_: try restarting it?
14:27.26Moultbenutzer_: if that doesn't work, logout into KDM, and relogin as root. once you're done relogin as your normal user of course.
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14:27.53meGeniusMoult: i wanted to build a plasmoid & it needed the kde-config
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14:28.46MoultmeGenius: if it's a programming problem, i can't help you there. sorry. this is a user-support channel.
14:29.03meGeniusokay!
14:29.15meGeniusdo you know where can i ask??
14:30.22Moult#kde-devel? but don't quote me on that ;)
14:30.29meGeniusokay!
14:30.38meGeniusdon't worry, Moult. than you
14:30.41meGeniusthank*
14:31.13benutzer_Hoult didnt work, I try to find out, how to log in as root, the qwkward thing is: I typed the command itself as root
14:31.45shadeslayer_meGenius: you should probably ask in #plasma
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14:32.00meGeniusshadeslayer_: i'll do too
14:32.24Moultbenutzer_: nothing beats dropping to stage 3 and running startx there
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14:33.35benutzer_Hoult do I get there by booting with single option? do I need to type startx as root?
14:35.17Moultbenutzer_: eh? just switch to a tty, eg: ctrl-alt-f2 (ctrl-alft-f7 to go back to your initial GUI), then run startx. let me know how it goes might have to tweak a bit for your system
14:35.34Moultlogin as root when in the TTY of course
14:36.31benutzer_Hoult fatal server error: server is already running
14:37.03Moultbenutzer_: ok, do `startx -- :1`
14:37.12Moultthat will start it in ctrl-alt-f8 by default
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14:38.53benutzer_Hoult this worked
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14:39.16Moultbenutzer_: ok, so now you're running kde as root right? see if system settings works there.
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14:40.46benutzer_Hoult it does, I just changed the settings!
14:40.56Moultbenutzer_: awesome :)
14:41.13benutzer_Ill reboot and see what happens
14:41.30benutzer_thanks a lot!! I struggle with this problem since quite some time
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14:45.31benutzerHoul works perfectly
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15:01.30espereguwhat's the best html editor for kde?
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15:03.24chronosscI having some strange problems here with kopete after upgrade to kde 4.4.4 ... contact list  change all time ... looks like my accounts logout and login each second
15:04.40chronosscI just opened kopete, loged and problems start to happen
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15:17.28Moultesperegu: gvim
15:17.30Moultvim
15:17.41espereguMoult: =)
15:17.50espereguI mean a more visual oriented one
15:18.19Moultesperegu: if you need a visual editor for html, you're coding it wrongly :)
15:18.33espereguhahaha
15:18.50neverendingoaptana
15:19.00Moultesperegu: resist! :D
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15:21.12Moultpfft, the aptana homepage is borked on opera.
15:22.00marisnhow to start Konqueror's bookmark editor from Konsole?
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15:23.51frojndHello there. Hope someone is here... I have a little problem with kopete 4.4.4-1
15:24.00marisnpinotree: thanks. too simple. Now will try to run under valgrind to see why I lost most of my bookmarks. (#220827)
15:25.01Gentoochildhi folks. I've got 130 new messages on my Pop account, but KMail says there were no new messages. Any idea what’s wrong here?
15:25.55frojndUnder notifications I've chosen for incoming messages JUST mark taskbar entry. Now... in my tray there is no swinging of kopete icon what so ever.... any ideas why? I don't like popup messages or voices just the tray icon to be moving when I recieve message. As I mentioned before I have kopete 4.4.4-1 any ideas why my tray icon won't move?
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16:09.43inkbottleKonqueror + kde4-gnash is killing my cpu: How can i set a cpu-load limit to this konqueror pluggin? (it doesn't appears as konqueror extension, it seems)
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16:49.18soeehi, any news @ kde 4.5 b2?
16:50.20biohazrdis there any reference that can help get kontact working?
16:50.36biohazrdever since the migration, I cant get it to function.
16:50.47biohazrdmaybe better off starting over
16:51.02biohazrdwhen i start kontact it just freezes
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17:04.04LzyHey, could anyone tell me where i can find kpovmodeler, kipi, KDELircSmb4K and KXSLDbg
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17:05.44LzyI've got access to the ubuntu and kubuntu backports repositories
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17:12.50LzyOn the kde userbase articles, is their any layout i need to adhere to when writing articles? Maybe a default template, or can i take the lyout from another article and rewrite it for the article in question?
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17:15.48MoDaXLzy: #kubuntu (about packages)
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17:18.03LzyCheers, anyone know anything about the userbase article templates?
17:21.10Torchannew: ^
17:21.31annewLzy: what's the question?
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17:21.51annewI know a bit, but some are very complex
17:22.05Neutroniumhello
17:22.29annewah - just read backscroll a bit
17:22.34annewyou need two pages -
17:22.40annewToolbox and PageLayout
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17:22.55annewthen ask any questions on #kde-www :-)
17:23.24Neutroniumis there a konqueror extention that can run greasemonkey userscripts?
17:23.45annewLzy you might find help, too, on Quick_Start
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17:24.49LzyCheers annew, just reading the toolbox and getting started pages now
17:25.26annewok - if you have questions, just ask
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17:25.59LzyOK cheers, i'll ask them in kde-www
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17:29.06Neutroniumhmmm I guess not then
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17:47.00gomoranIf I press ^S konsole display a message that the ouput has been haltet (which simply is not true) and that resizes the konsole-window.
17:47.10gomoranCan I prevent konsole from doing this?
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18:34.51jensphey there, I'm running KDE SC 4.4.4, is there a calendar widget that uses the appointments etc. from my akonadi calendar? The normal calendar widget doesn't seem to :(
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19:38.10clophi, i'm using kde 3.5.4-13... when i have one firefox already running on desktop 1, and i try to launch a new one on desktop 3, the new firefox loads on desktop 1 instead of 3.  if I then move it to desktop 3, popup windows still load on desktop 1.  is there some way to make them load on desktop 3 instead?
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19:41.00speedvinhello all!
19:41.13speedvinI've got an question to you...
19:41.27speedvinabout writting plasmoids...
19:42.04speedvinI got a project for plasmoid to make konsole behave like yakuake...
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19:42.24speedvinlittle,resizable window sticked to panel...
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19:42.54speedvinany ideas is that can be using plasmoid?
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19:45.02annmawhy do you want konsole like yakuake and not just use yakuake?
19:45.57speedvinI want to make it just plasmoid using konsole...
19:46.13speedvinnot whole application...
19:46.36annmawhat's the use case?
19:47.35speedvinI don't have to install whole app with deps but only a little plasmoid that won't do mess in my system after installing it :)
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19:48.19annmaI don't think so
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19:48.47speedvinbut anyway is that can be do within plasmoid + python/pyqt?
19:48.54annmaI don't think you can make a little plasmoid which would be yakuake
19:49.20annmawith plasma libs you mean
19:49.58speedvinnot which will be yakuake only little plasmoid that would behave konsole like yakuake....
19:49.59annmaa plasmoid is a the collection of coded files making an applet
19:50.23speedvinright...
19:50.38annmayou can probably emulate a terminal
19:51.10speedvinyou mean running it from plasmoid?
19:51.39annmano
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19:51.48annmaI mean a terminal applet
19:51.58speedvinhmm
19:52.05speedvinhow to do that?
19:52.10speedvinany info about that?
19:52.28annmaI don't do Python myelf
19:53.15speedvinHmm maybe run little terminal window using system call and stick it to panel?
19:53.42annmaI don't use yakuake either
19:53.51annmaso I don't have any use case for this
19:54.18speedvinBut for example it can be done using plasmoid written in C++?
19:55.02annmaI suggest you first look on kde-look.org
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19:55.25speedvinI was there...
19:55.45annmaI am pretty sure you'll find what you are loking for or if not, some code base for it
19:55.59annmaas you seem not familiar with plasma
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19:56.15speedvinhmm
19:56.19speedvinok
19:56.32speedvinthanks for help annma!
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19:56.50annmaI see for example an applet base don konsolepart
19:56.56annmabased on
19:57.05speedvinany name or link?
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19:57.31annmaa search for terminal brought it up
19:57.32annmahttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plasmacon?content=108120
19:57.37annmapykde
19:58.03annmathat will give you an idea of plasmoid code
19:58.47speedvinthanks again!
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20:05.27WalexKDE3.5: how to get Konqueror in file browsing to list dirs and files in alpha (or whatever) order, not dirs first?
20:06.13pinotreethere should be a menu item in the View menu
20:07.01WalexAh yes, I had missed it, under 'Sort', must have been blind...
20:07.41soee_is it possible to put 2 panels at the top of the screen?
20:07.52soee_i mean second one under firs one
20:07.58Walexwas looking for it as a preference under 'Settings'...
20:09.07Walexahhh as to dir sorting that option is not in the 'View' menu at all in text view mode which is what I use normally.
20:10.40Walexdirectory first does appear to be without the option to turn it off in any "list" view mode unfortunately.
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20:30.27Cool_Chello. I have an issue in 4.4.3 where if i eject and insert a new cd/dvd, the old one is still seen, so it look like there is now two drives... anyone can help?
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20:40.29GauravDoes anyone know how to uninstall picasa from fedora 13
20:41.41pinotreeGaurav: ask in #fedora
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20:42.41Gauravwhere is it
20:42.50Gauravsorry, i am new
20:42.58T1750why does kde su always ask if it want to remember my password but then never remembers it
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21:25.05ScuniziHow do you get kmail to Forward and email with an attachment.. so far I've found it strips the attachment
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21:25.50thiago_homeit forwards with the attachment
21:25.57thiago_homeI have no idea how to forward without
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21:27.12mukituhello, my fglrx driver seams to work quite well but for some reason I can't activate composite in KDE any idea what might be problem?
21:28.05d3xmukitu, might be Composite extension disabled in your X configuration
21:28.51thiago_homexdpyinfo | grep -i composite
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21:29.24mukituwell it get's even more crazy right now. For some reason it is activated but in the configs it say it can't be activated. So there for I can't even configure composit
21:29.27mukitubut it works now
21:29.40mukitueven though I have no idea why
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21:34.45mukitud3x: that is very odd I just restarted kde and now composit is deactivated again. I've never seam such an odd behavior
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21:35.04tintiHi, I want to know where can I change the behavior of my notifications, my taskbar is on left side then would be great if my notifications go left/right and not bottom/up, any idea?
21:35.10mukituis there a config file where I can edit composit
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21:48.00tintiI dont believe so
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22:55.36Kenjirogood evening/night
22:56.09KenjiroI am trying kde-4.5beta2. Does anyone remember/know how to remove a widget which is not visible?
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23:03.51KenjiroI am trying kde-4.5beta2. Does anyone remember/know how to remove a widget which is not visible?
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23:16.30hagabakahas smoothtasks been removed in kde 4.4.5? is there another way to have a task list showing only icons?
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23:18.52pinotreehagabaka: it was never part of KDE SC releases
23:19.08SaphireHuhu
23:19.24SaphireCan anyone tell me, how i can set the language on German?
23:19.50pinotreesystem settings → language & country → language
23:20.01hagabakahmm
23:20.15pinotreemake sure you have the kde language pack of your language installed
23:20.58Kenjirolooks like kwallatet(manager) is useless in kde-4.5beta2
23:21.00SaphireÖhm, no idea how i can found this :/
23:21.14Kenjiroanyone here running kde-4.5beta2?
23:22.20hagabakais there another way to have a task list showing only icons then?
23:22.28hagabakaKenjiro: I am
23:22.57Kenjirohagabaka: do you use kwallatermanger?
23:23.25hagabakanot sure, does kmail use it?
23:23.37KyrilI am Kenjiro
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23:24.31Kyrilworks fine for me
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23:25.46Kenjirohagabaka: if you allow it to store your passwords, then yes
23:26.01hagabakaI do then, and it works for me
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23:26.27KenjiroKyril: I just upgraded to kde-4.5beta2, and my kwallet simply doesn't work
23:26.41KenjiroI even tried killing the process and then restarting it by hand. Same result
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23:31.23jaemOdd... my panel just disappeared from all but one virtual desktop, and I don't have "one activity per v-desktop" turned on.
23:31.33jaemFurthermore, it's actually *gone*, not just not painted.
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23:47.23KenjiroKyril: ok, I got kwallatmanager to "work"
23:47.44Kenjirobut then, kopete isn't being able to store passwords on it :(
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23:50.22diddlyhi is there yet an akonadi resource for google calendar?
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