| 00:02.35 | bukayoo | will kde desktop effects include dock anytime soon? |
| 00:04.41 | bukayoo | is kooldock any good/worth it? |
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| 01:13.11 | dimberti | I'm on a network linux computer, I have leechblocker installed on Firefox, which has worked well for me; but unfortunately there's this program konqueror on the network. Any ideas on how I can restrict my access to it? |
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| 01:32.16 | xevious | I recently set up a diskless node that boots off of my main system that acts as a file server and a KDE based media center PC. |
| 01:32.31 | xevious | When I log into KDE on the diskless node, the K menu applications tab is empty. |
| 01:32.39 | xevious | What governs how that menu is populated? |
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| 01:34.38 | draeath | Is there any way to make dolphin stop 'polluting' directories with ".directory" files? |
| 01:35.09 | draeath | tried searching, but google ignores punctuation apparently, which is annoying. |
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| 01:53.18 | xevious | If I use either kickoff or the traditional kmenu, none of my categories or applications show up. :\ |
| 01:54.22 | xevious | I think I got it... |
| 01:57.41 | xevious | /etc/xdg/menus/* was messed up |
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| 02:42.30 | crocket | hi |
| 02:42.50 | crocket | Konsole doesn't allow me to click long URIs splitted in two lines |
| 02:42.58 | crocket | Konsole only allows me to click contiguous links |
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| 03:13.18 | skeletal | someone can help me? |
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| 03:22.09 | JonathanYC | Hello |
| 03:22.24 | JonathanYC | Does anyone know why dual-display settings do not persist across reboots? |
| 03:22.30 | JonathanYC | I'm running the latest version of sidux |
| 03:22.50 | JonathanYC | KDE version is 4.4.4 |
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| 04:24.59 | o_a | Plasma from KDE SC 4.4.85 is using almost 500 MiB of RAM. Is that normal? |
| 04:25.11 | o_a | Or, at least, expected to happen? |
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| 04:26.56 | o_a | Last time I left my computer on three days in a row, it was using 1189 MiB before I killed it. |
| 04:28.22 | o_a | My uptime, in case, if needed: 01:30:44 up 2 days, 4:53, 3 users, load average: 0.16, 0.77, 0.62 |
| 04:29.56 | o_a | Note: I have absolutely no widgets on my desktop |
| 04:30.29 | powtrix | o_a, 22797 powtrix 20 0 2108m 1.4g 31m S 3 17.4 51:05.60 plasma-desktop |
| 04:30.33 | crocket | Put system monitor widgets |
| 04:30.35 | crocket | It's good |
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| 04:31.15 | powtrix | bearrb |
| 04:31.52 | o_a | powtrix: Your plasma is using 1.4G? |
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| 04:56.42 | powtrix | o_a, yes |
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| 04:57.25 | powtrix | o_0 |
| 04:57.45 | o_a | Ugh... I will file a bug repot, then. |
| 04:57.55 | o_a | report* |
| 04:58.30 | powtrix | its beta |
| 04:59.53 | o_a | Beta 2, only 2 months away from final release |
| 05:01.15 | powtrix | .86 is released try it |
| 05:04.03 | o_a | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241849 |
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| 05:05.52 | powtrix | 84 bit heh |
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| 05:12.42 | powtrix | just testing: under KDE, F@H process 10% in ~8min, in fluxbox ~6min |
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| 10:03.29 | greenmang0 | hello friends, i am using ktorrent 3.3.4 on kubuntu 10.04 with kde 4.4.4, in ktorrent the `country' column in `peers' tab doesn't show country names, what can be done for this? |
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| 10:44.02 | oneforall | how do i get rid of that darn KGpg from starting up and out of systray |
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| 10:49.44 | feep | hi |
| 10:49.47 | feep | looking for help with akregator |
| 10:49.58 | feep | er, 1.2.9 but the question is generic |
| 10:50.11 | Sho_ | shoot |
| 10:50.27 | feep | I'm messing up my RSS .. I have a file that starts with "<channel><title>text goes here</title>" |
| 10:50.33 | feep | and it refuses to use that as the default title |
| 10:50.35 | feep | what am I doing wrong? |
| 10:50.47 | feep | and yes I know it's not strictly valid RSS but it should still recognize it, no? |
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| 10:51.46 | Sho_ | hm well, the lack of doctypes might trip it up |
| 10:51.49 | Sho_ | do you have a link to the file? |
| 10:52.01 | oneforall | where can I manually edit the systray config to get rid of this annoying app |
| 10:52.10 | elijahbal | Hello |
| 10:52.12 | elijahbal | http://pastebin.com/ZfnJzGkH |
| 10:52.16 | elijahbal | juk crashes. |
| 10:52.25 | feep | Sho_: http://demented.no-ip.org/~feep/rss_proxy.cgi?4068153 |
| 10:52.30 | feep | it's a rss proxy to fanfiction.net |
| 10:52.39 | feep | to allow you to RSS story updates |
| 10:52.40 | oneforall | even when i open the darn thing and tell it not to start up in there its still there |
| 10:52.49 | Sho_ | elijahbal: You could try changing your Phonon backend to Xine since the crash seems to be in the GStreamer backend |
| 10:52.58 | elijahbal | how to do that ? |
| 10:53.09 | elijahbal | systemconfig |
| 10:53.19 | Sho_ | elijahbal: System Settings -> Multimedia -> Backend |
| 10:54.04 | Sho_ | feep: The server pushes that file as text/html, so Akregator probably treats it as website and look for feed URLs in <link> elements rather than trying to parse it as RSS |
| 10:54.37 | feep | Ooooh. |
| 10:54.40 | feep | Sho_: yeah, hold on. fixing. |
| 10:54.44 | feep | what's the mime for rss? |
| 10:54.46 | feep | text/rss? |
| 10:54.50 | Sho_ | feep: What happenes here is that it throws up a "No feed found" dialog, and after OK'ing that it falls back to the Add feed dialog with the original URL in the URL field, but since it didn't try to read it as RSS it never looked at the <title> tag I guess |
| 10:55.17 | Sho_ | feep: application/rss+xml |
| 10:55.21 | feep | kay. |
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| 10:55.41 | elijahbal | Sho_: it works thanks |
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| 10:56.14 | feep | oh, now it says feed not found |
| 10:56.35 | feep | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:57.12 | feep | Sho_: it identifies as that now |
| 10:58.08 | feep | I should probably start with an XML header. |
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| 10:58.23 | cojack | hello |
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| 10:58.35 | cojack | why I can't change my image in systemsettings? |
| 10:58.51 | Sho_ | feep: I also recommend http://beta.feedvalidator.org/ |
| 10:58.52 | cojack | I have an allert Your administrator disable this option |
| 10:58.58 | Sho_ | feep: and http://validator.w3.org/feed/ |
| 10:59.30 | feep | all fixed. |
| 10:59.38 | feep | running through validator |
| 11:00.12 | Sho_ | there isn't really an RSS 1.0 |
| 11:00.25 | Sho_ | the two commonly used versions are 0.9x and 2.0 though you should really use 2.0 |
| 11:00.43 | Sho_ | elijahbal: happy to help |
| 11:01.47 | feep | yeah, rss is telling me too :p |
| 11:01.55 | elijahbal | I have no sound now :) |
| 11:02.00 | elijahbal | but juk is working |
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| 11:05.01 | feep | okay, works now :D |
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| 11:06.17 | Sho_ | cool |
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| 12:56.14 | skeletal | guys, i need help, please |
| 12:56.17 | skeletal | example, i have KDE here and I would like to configure meu Konsole for always when someone try to access my root account typing "su skeletal" automatically show a audio saying " access denyed". I have the audio with me. But I dont know how to do it in my system. Someone have idea how to solve this problem? |
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| 13:08.32 | mokoloko | Is it normal that KDE 4.5b2 doesn't save plasmoids settings? They go crazy (resize and relocate) everytime I log out and so on... |
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| 13:11.45 | annma | mokoloko: 1 screen? what widgets? |
| 13:15.02 | mokoloko | annma: 3 activities: first with shelf, 2 folder views and weather forecast, second with shelf only and third with plamacon and shelf |
| 13:15.46 | annma | but 1 screen? |
| 13:15.53 | annma | shelf? |
| 13:16.00 | mokoloko | is there way to save plasma settings without login out because kwin crashes everytime I log out |
| 13:16.05 | mokoloko | yeah 1 screen |
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| 13:16.13 | annma | what is shelf |
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| 13:16.26 | annma | plasma settings are saved automatically |
| 13:16.29 | leontopod | how do I line up icons on the desktop in kde4? |
| 13:16.49 | leontopod | I left click on the desktop and I don't see an option |
| 13:16.52 | annma | mokoloko: settings are saved just after you add/move an applet |
| 13:17.08 | olaf123_b | hi. What if the absolute path to start Koffice / Kivio? I try to start in icewm, but it does not work like in kde, gnome, ... |
| 13:17.23 | mokoloko | well In this case they don't. It's beta prublem maybe... Same behaviour with qt4.7 and 4.6.3 |
| 13:17.46 | annma | olaf123_b: how do you start it? |
| 13:17.57 | annma | mokoloko: it's not a beta problem |
| 13:18.00 | annma | they are saved |
| 13:18.30 | olaf123_b | annma: Koffice is not in the startmenu on icewm, so I tried to start it with "kivio", "koffice", ... in a shell |
| 13:18.45 | annma | koffice is not a program |
| 13:18.50 | annma | kivio is one |
| 13:19.01 | mokoloko | damn I tried to remove all the plasma/activitymanager configs but didn't help :( gotta tell 4.5 beta cycle has been the most painful since 4.1 :D |
| 13:19.14 | annma | mokoloko: ? |
| 13:19.24 | annma | how did you install? |
| 13:19.51 | annma | if kwin crashes you obviously have aninstall problem mokoloko |
| 13:19.56 | larsivi | do anyone know if there is a dropbox plugin for dolphin/krusader adnd/or a plasmoid? |
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| 13:20.45 | olaf123_b | annma: ok, tried to start kivio. In the kde-menu it is starting with "kivio %u", but this does not work in icewm |
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| 13:21.03 | annma | olaf123_b: ask in icewm channel then |
| 13:21.13 | olaf123_b | "kmail" works |
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| 13:21.23 | annma | so |
| 13:21.31 | olaf123_b | ok, thanx |
| 13:22.12 | mokoloko | This activity thing really screwed things up... I use to have different activities for each virtual desktop because it integrates well with kwin effects and looks nice, but when I enable it now everything just goes crazy. At one point I had like 12 activites for some reason and they randomly swapped between those vd's :D |
| 13:22.30 | mokoloko | with every restart I got a new desktop :D it was rather fun actually |
| 13:22.36 | annma | do you read planet kde mokoloko |
| 13:22.42 | annma | a new activity |
| 13:22.49 | annma | nota new desktop |
| 13:23.07 | annma | if you beta test you should read planet kde |
| 13:23.44 | annma | but your fist question was not about actiuvities being cng, it was about settings not kept fpor 'shel' (I asked what is that)reati |
| 13:24.28 | annma | but your fist question was not about actiuvities being kept, it was about settings not being saved for 'shelf' (I asked what is that)reati |
| 13:25.41 | annma | difficult to help when I don't understand the question |
| 13:25.49 | mokoloko | yeah I read it a little bit and I noticed that in 4.5b1 things were supposed to be screwed up |
| 13:26.00 | mokoloko | "shelf" is just one of the plasmoids |
| 13:26.14 | annma | which one? I don't have it |
| 13:26.26 | mokoloko | every plasmoid goes crazy when I log out |
| 13:26.32 | annma | if it's a third part one it might be bad |
| 13:26.40 | mokoloko | they resize and switch places |
| 13:26.43 | annma | "goes crazy" is not a description |
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| 13:26.58 | mokoloko | ^ |
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| 13:27.03 | annma | first get a default desktop |
| 13:27.20 | annma | second add one plasmoid like analog clock |
| 13:27.45 | annma | third take a screenshot, save plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 13:28.07 | annma | 4th kquitapp plasma-desktop and restart plasma-desktop |
| 13:28.28 | annma | 5th take a screenhot and diff plasma-desktop-appletsrc against previous one |
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| 13:28.59 | mokoloko | It seems that they return to the place I first dragged them from the "add widgets" menu |
| 13:29.07 | annma | see if the problem is common to all applets or triggered by one |
| 13:29.13 | annma | all of them? |
| 13:29.18 | mokoloko | yeah |
| 13:29.24 | annma | even analog clock? |
| 13:29.40 | annma | so do as I said with only 1 applet for easyness |
| 13:29.46 | mokoloko | I'll try that |
| 13:29.57 | annma | I can't reproduce that, let me check again |
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| 13:30.56 | annma | no, can't reproduce |
| 13:31.20 | annma | I added a clock on top right then moved to bottom left and it stays there after I restart |
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| 13:32.08 | annma | if you have it with the analog clock I suggest you try a new user to double check |
| 13:32.13 | mokoloko | hmm the clock kept it's place put resized to the default size |
| 13:32.57 | annma | so check plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 13:33.12 | annma | put it a big size |
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| 13:33.52 | annma | damn |
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| 13:34.31 | annma | it stays the size I put it here |
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| 13:38.38 | mokoloko | Now that I looked more carefully first sorry for the miss info. It actually seems that all of the widgets keep their place but they resize to very small to their top left corner |
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| 13:38.50 | kardesler | s.a |
| 13:38.51 | cagacan | does anyone know why a pardus2009 linux distro would be unable to connect to ubuntu 9.10 through krdc? |
| 13:39.15 | annma | so pastebin the sizes from plasma-desktop-appletsrc file mokoloko |
| 13:39.37 | annma | size before quitting plasma-desktop and size after restarting it when it's samll |
| 13:39.40 | annma | small |
| 13:40.23 | mokoloko | yeah wait a sec I'll remove configs and start from the clean table |
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| 13:43.43 | mokoloko | annma now when I try resize that analog clock it returns to the default size immediately |
| 13:44.04 | annma | immediately??? |
| 13:44.15 | annma | so you mean you cannot resize it in fact? |
| 13:44.25 | mokoloko | yeah not anymore |
| 13:45.22 | annma | ok so in a terminal, type: kquitapp plasma-desktop |
| 13:45.32 | annma | then in this terminal, restart plasma-desktop |
| 13:46.01 | annma | when it's loaded, type a few return key then resize and paste output from this |
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| 13:52.22 | mokoloko | annma: http://pastebin.com/Nuyp4BVZ |
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| 13:54.06 | annma | lots of errors |
| 13:54.19 | mokoloko | thats the output from the first two sry now ill try again with resize :P |
| 13:54.46 | annma | what applets do you have? |
| 13:55.17 | mokoloko | there's folder view (came by default) and that analog clock with it's default size |
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| 13:58.27 | mokoloko | whatta!? I started again and the resize works but when I restarted plasma desktop again the clock returned to the default size |
| 13:58.31 | mokoloko | grrrr :D |
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| 13:59.15 | annma | so resize big |
| 13:59.29 | annma | pastebin plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 13:59.46 | annma | restart and pastebin again |
| 14:00.44 | mokoloko | ok |
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| 14:03.09 | mokoloko | GRRRRRRRR I removed configs and once again resize is broken |
| 14:03.37 | mokoloko | so ill have to kquitapp plasma-desktop at least once |
| 14:03.44 | mokoloko | then ill try it |
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| 14:08.44 | mokoloko | annma: before ---> http://pastebin.com/rW990qg1 after ---> http://pastebin.com/QM4LZwHj |
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| 14:11.18 | annma | it's because it's not the same activity |
| 14:11.30 | annma | or whatever |
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| 14:12.52 | annma | let me look better, why is it applet [43] |
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| 14:13.45 | mokoloko | there're apparently 3 activities |
| 14:15.27 | annma | if you could diff the 2 files it would be better for my eyes |
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| 14:18.43 | mokoloko | annma they don't have any difference O_o |
| 14:18.51 | annma | they do |
| 14:19.48 | mokoloko | I couldn'see after a quick look |
| 14:20.05 | sileno | anyone knows if kde is making something like the mackintosh dock ? |
| 14:20.17 | sileno | or change the taskbar.. |
| 14:20.20 | annma | thats why I asked y uto diff mokoloko |
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| 14:21.57 | mokoloko | I checked all the numbers and they're same on every line |
| 14:23.01 | mokoloko | oh no there's difference on line 31 |
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| 14:24.40 | mokoloko | maybe I'll diff just to be sure :D |
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| 14:27.08 | mokoloko | annma: yeah it's only the line 31 that's different |
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| 14:41.42 | cptG | hello! is someone working with a dual-head-setup (extended desktop) on kde? is it supposed to remember the configuration of the dislpay? because for me it doesn |
| 14:41.45 | cptG | 't |
| 14:42.03 | nickals | only if you have this video card will it remember: https://www.bordergatewayprotocol.net/jon/humor/images/3dcard.jpg |
| 14:42.08 | nickals | lol |
| 14:42.10 | nickals | j/k |
| 14:42.11 | nickals | lmfao |
| 14:42.13 | nickals | sorry |
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| 14:52.34 | alisonken1home | for kde questions, yes |
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| 15:00.29 | annma | mokoloko: sorryI had to go for a while |
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| 15:10.39 | alancio | I need help, when I try to build kdelibs, it doesn't detect soprano, and I just installed it |
| 15:11.10 | alancio | I installed soprano 2.4.1, from source, with all libs and include files |
| 15:12.17 | annma | what kdelibs do you build |
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| 15:12.53 | alancio | I'm trying to build kdelibs 4.4.2 |
| 15:13.17 | annma | can you pastebin the cmake output please |
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| 15:15.03 | annma | alancio: did you see what I wrote? |
| 15:15.21 | alancio | http://pastebin.com/fHQxE1Vn |
| 15:15.31 | alancio | yes, sorry, I was doing the pastebin thing |
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| 15:15.55 | annma | you need to install redland |
| 15:16.14 | alancio | I did install redland |
| 15:16.23 | annma | libredland and libredland-devel |
| 15:16.35 | alancio | I installed it from source, I'm not using rpms |
| 15:16.49 | annma | Could NOT find Soprano (missing: SOPRANO_PLUGIN_REDLANDBACKEND_FOUND) |
| 15:17.04 | annma | you're using what then |
| 15:17.16 | annma | you need to build soprano after installing redland then |
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| 15:17.56 | odla | alancio: why are you building 4.4.2 and not 4.4.4 out of curiousity? |
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| 15:18.26 | annma | valid question! |
| 15:18.28 | alancio | because that was the last version I could build without any errors, but now not even that |
| 15:18.43 | annma | there's no difference between them except bug fixes |
| 15:18.53 | annma | so what distro do you use |
| 15:18.57 | alancio | CRUX |
| 15:19.09 | annma | what is that |
| 15:19.15 | alancio | its a source based distribution |
| 15:19.19 | annma | ask them how to build soprano with redland support |
| 15:19.32 | alancio | similar to Arch, in fact, Arch was "inspired" from CRUX |
| 15:19.53 | alancio | the thing is, I'm the guy that makes the KDE ports |
| 15:20.25 | odla | alancio: is this helpful? http://crux.nu/Wiki/KDE4 |
| 15:20.30 | alancio | odla: I wrote that |
| 15:20.47 | odla | ha ha |
| 15:20.57 | odla | so probably not ;) |
| 15:21.07 | alancio | it used to build some time ago, I don't know what happened |
| 15:21.31 | alancio | and the fact that nobody has complained yet, means everybody is still using KDE3 or other DEs |
| 15:22.02 | alancio | maybe its because I'm trying to build in a 64 bit system now |
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| 15:23.05 | annma | so can you rebuild soprano after redland or did you do that already? |
| 15:23.29 | annma | did you rm the CMakeCache.txt when you reran cmake |
| 15:23.42 | alancio | I just found something |
| 15:24.06 | alancio | when building soprano, it says it finds redland, but disables it |
| 15:24.16 | alancio | http://pastebin.com/2HcZqxun |
| 15:24.55 | pinotree | line 46 is quite clear your soprano is broken |
| 15:25.09 | pinotree | (insert a comma between "clear" and "your") |
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| 15:26.46 | annma | alancio: time to use Google to find out why this happens |
| 15:26.59 | alancio | I'm digging in the cmake tests |
| 15:27.07 | annma | digg Google |
| 15:27.20 | annma | you built redland wrong probably |
| 15:27.22 | alancio | I tried already, lots of people have the same issue, there is no answer yet |
| 15:27.35 | alancio | apparently some versions of redland/soprano don't work together |
| 15:27.41 | alancio | oh, and also sqlite |
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| 15:27.50 | pinotree | i told you:your soprano is broken |
| 15:28.04 | alancio | pinotree: I know, thanks |
| 15:28.05 | pinotree | there should be an upstream patch to fix the linking of the redlan plugins |
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| 15:28.39 | alancio | autoconf was easier |
| 15:28.50 | Torch | alancio: nonsense. |
| 15:28.56 | pinotree | autoconf is totally unrelated |
| 15:29.10 | alancio | I mean, it was easier to find why a test failed |
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| 15:29.31 | alancio | I don't know how to do that with cmake |
| 15:29.32 | pinotree | because you knew autoconf |
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| 15:30.20 | alancio | right, I have to read a cmake manual someday |
| 15:30.54 | annma | what redland version do you have? |
| 15:31.04 | alancio | 1.0.10 |
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| 15:31.25 | annma | I have 1.0.9 and it's all OK (but I have it from rpms) |
| 15:31.43 | annma | compiling stuff is such a pain |
| 15:32.04 | alancio | yeah, but someone has to do it |
| 15:32.09 | annma | I compiled python and it never was right, same with mysql |
| 15:32.15 | annma | well |
| 15:32.26 | alancio | I'm building 1.0.9 now |
| 15:32.49 | annma | what about this thing that soprano wants |
| 15:32.52 | alancio | ok, now redland 1.0.9 complains that it can't build with sqlite3 |
| 15:33.00 | annma | isn't there a flag you need to build redland maybe |
| 15:33.02 | alancio | because it has its own incompatible sqlite3 headers |
| 15:33.07 | annma | ah god |
| 15:33.16 | annma | good luck in all that |
| 15:33.19 | alancio | hahaha |
| 15:33.42 | alancio | thats why my distro doesn't have a newer KDE version :P |
| 15:33.53 | alancio | I'll have to spend some time with this |
| 15:33.53 | annma | I have libsqlite3_0-3.6 |
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| 15:34.08 | alancio | thats really old |
| 15:34.21 | alancio | that is 3.6.0? |
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| 15:35.31 | annma | I suppose so |
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| 15:36.03 | alancio | well, I'll continue some other day, thanks for your help! |
| 15:36.26 | annma | maybe find out how arch does it |
| 15:36.35 | annma | spy on them!!! |
| 15:36.57 | alancio | hahaha yes maybe |
| 15:37.11 | alancio | they do the same on us all the time |
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| 15:37.20 | annma | ;) |
| 15:37.23 | alancio | but they split their kde packages into 100 parts, I don't want to do that |
| 15:38.48 | alancio | but yes, I could get some "inspiration" |
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| 15:59.23 | verdelyi | shadyabhi: not sure what you mean but have you tried the effects in systemsettings? |
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| 16:01.29 | Dice-Man | is kde kdeing well people ? |
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| 16:03.50 | junkDawgie | opinions vary, but my machine hasn't exploded yet, Dice |
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| 16:21.05 | junkDawgie | i do wear a helmut thou |
| 16:22.24 | shadyabhi | verdelyi: I couldnt find the setting for that.. If u are not sure what I am talking about.. See this port.. http://bit.ly/aWfBmx People in this post are saying that KDE people have enabled it by default.. |
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| 16:36.45 | leontopod | how do I line up icons on the desktop in kde4? |
| 16:36.46 | leontopod | I left click on the desktop and I don't see an option |
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| 16:39.39 | cb400f | are "icons" shortcuts to apps in this case? |
| 16:39.57 | cb400f | or are they files in the ~/Desktop folder? |
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| 16:43.52 | leontopod | shortcuts to apps cb400f, thanks |
| 16:44.20 | cb400f | then you can't.. since those shortcuts are widgets |
| 16:44.27 | cb400f | unless you put them in a panel :-) |
| 16:44.43 | cb400f | or replace them with .desktop files in a folder and use a folderview |
| 16:44.55 | cb400f | or lay them out manually |
| 16:45.14 | leontopod | oh, there is no snap lineup? |
| 16:45.20 | leontopod | "snap to" line up? |
| 16:45.21 | cb400f | not of widgets |
| 16:45.26 | leontopod | oh =( |
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| 17:06.28 | valenstijn | hoi |
| 17:06.37 | valenstijn | i can't start kde anymore |
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| 17:07.02 | valenstijn | the message is: can't start dbus, can you start qdbus |
| 17:07.22 | valenstijn | and when i start in rescue qdbus |
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| 17:07.47 | valenstijn | i get the message undefine symbol in libQtDbus.so.4 |
| 17:07.54 | valenstijn | anny solution ? |
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| 17:08.47 | root_ | hi guys. Was hoping that somebody here could shed some light on a problem that seems easy but has escaped me for about 3 weeks. |
| 17:10.50 | root_ | I'm getting a color blue that shows up in all the scroll bars in every application, both kde and non kde apps. It's this power blue. My custom theme color has no such color in it, nor does any of theme that present. Can somebody tell me where is this blue color coming from? Is there some default somewhere that needs to be changed in a config file to get rid of this blue? |
| 17:11.08 | root_ | oops "powder blue" |
| 17:13.22 | verdelyi | root_: a screenshot would be a good idea |
| 17:13.29 | root_ | Why wouldn't the scroll bars and some other elements be included in the color theme that has been chosen? |
| 17:13.34 | root_ | verdelyi: good idea |
| 17:13.43 | root_ | verdelyi: on image bin or something? |
| 17:14.04 | verdelyi | root_: anywhere that's not inlined here in binary |
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| 17:15.18 | root_ | verdelyi: got cha |
| 17:17.26 | verdelyi | root_: anyway themes have some settings for scrollbars I think they're just hidden |
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| 17:18.07 | verdelyi | root_: at least oxygen has some interesting checkboxes |
| 17:18.32 | root_ | verdelyi: oh...didn't ever see that. If you look closely the windows panel are outlined in this light blue color. I'm getting the screen shot now. |
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| 17:19.16 | verdelyi | root_: waiting for the screenshot, I got a parse error at "windows panel" |
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| 17:19.46 | root_ | verdelyi: thanks man I really appreciate your help on this.. http://imagebin.ca/view/8iTJZuQ.html |
| 17:20.11 | Pablerkas | hi there. I have one question. I use KRunner to open indexed documents. It finds them and it kind of opens them, but actually it opens some kind of nepomuk-copy of the archive so i can't save changes... |
| 17:20.46 | Pablerkas | is it intended? is it an option hidden somwhere? is it a bug? |
| 17:20.54 | Pablerkas | is it my fault? |
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| 17:23.40 | verdelyi | root_: hmm can you in any way change that scrollbar appearance? like switching to another theme? |
| 17:25.23 | verdelyi | root_: anyway changing "style" in systemsettings seems to have drastic changes on scrollbars and their colors |
| 17:25.54 | root_ | verdelyi: hmmm I've tried but let me try again |
| 17:26.20 | verdelyi | root_: I'd check the settings of that custom theme itself somewhere within systemsettings |
| 17:27.36 | verdelyi | root_: wait.. isn't this only happening with gtk apps? |
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| 17:28.00 | root_ | verdelyi: no I just change EVERYTHING. color, styles the scroll bars and outlines are the same...blue..what the hell is going on? |
| 17:28.31 | verdelyi | root_: even if you change to oxygen for example? |
| 17:28.39 | root_ | verdelyi: well Firefox, Xchat, T-bird...not the kde control center..but the Drake Control center yes |
| 17:28.49 | verdelyi | root_: kwrite? |
| 17:28.58 | root_ | verdelyi: let me check kwirte |
| 17:30.41 | root_ | verdelyi: no kwrite is fine. Meaning that the scroll bars match the theme. |
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| 17:31.02 | verdelyi | root_: ok, I think you have to change the gtk engine |
| 17:31.22 | root_ | verdelyi: hmm you think? Where is that? |
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| 17:31.32 | verdelyi | root_: systemsettings->appearance->gtk whatever (hope you have it installed) |
| 17:31.53 | root_ | verdelyi: ok lets take a look there.... |
| 17:32.29 | root_ | verdelyi: I don't see that in the categories list |
| 17:33.06 | verdelyi | root_: umm you need to install it but I don't remember the package name |
| 17:33.16 | root_ | verdelyi: dolphin's scroll bars also match the theme..hmm |
| 17:33.25 | root_ | ok I'll look |
| 17:33.30 | verdelyi | root_: something like gtk-engines-qt.. anyone else? |
| 17:35.31 | root_ | verdelyi: ok thanks |
| 17:37.00 | root_ | verdelyi: I just installed "gtk-engines2" but I don't see any added items in the systemsettings/appearance list |
| 17:37.35 | verdelyi | root_: that's not the one you need (however useful for having a nice choice list by the time you find the real one) |
| 17:37.47 | root_ | verdelyi: lol ok |
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| 17:38.08 | verdelyi | root_: in earlier fedoras it was called gtk-qt-engines... what the .. happened to it, and how do I have it? |
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| 17:38.44 | root_ | verdelyi: hmm Ok I'll search for that |
| 17:39.15 | root_ | verdelyi: libgtk-qt-engine? |
| 17:40.02 | root_ | verdelyi: that's it..It's there now! YEAH! |
| 17:40.12 | root_ | "Ride em out!" |
| 17:40.35 | verdelyi | root_: nice, now someone tell me why yum search didn't find it LOL |
| 17:41.09 | root_ | verdelyi: lol...figures. Hey it wan'ts me to log out and back into kde...brb Thanks |
| 17:41.17 | verdelyi | root_: wait |
| 17:41.22 | verdelyi | what fedora version do you have |
| 17:42.01 | root_ | verdelyi: I'm not using Fedora |
| 17:42.04 | verdelyi | root_: or... erm... I think I forgot that I'm not in the fedora channel LOL nevermind |
| 17:42.13 | root_ | lol |
| 17:42.17 | root_ | verdelyi: funny stuff |
| 17:42.47 | root_ | verdelyi: can I log out now? |
| 17:42.51 | verdelyi | root_: yes |
| 17:42.56 | root_ | verdelyi: ok brb |
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| 17:46.43 | root_ | verdelyi: that's did it thanks! |
| 17:46.55 | verdelyi | root_: you're welcome :) |
| 17:47.41 | root_ | verdelyi: "that just happened!" Yeah |
| 17:47.44 | root_ | awesome |
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| 17:48.25 | erikw | I removed the 'Desktop applet', how do I get it back? |
| 17:48.32 | HandyGandy | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.35 | root_ | verdelyi: there needs to be more people like you on IRC channels...I still can't get samba to work correctly...and the samba channel is useless |
| 17:49.08 | HandyGandy | Sorry |
| 17:49.11 | verdelyi | root_: yeah program-spacific channels are rarely active.. try your distro channel |
| 17:49.29 | root_ | verdelyi: I am the distro...so that's not going to help :) |
| 17:49.58 | verdelyi | root_: what?:) |
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| 17:50.04 | root_ | verdelyi: there is like 105 people on that channel and NOBODY responds...ever! |
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| 17:50.23 | root_ | verdelyi: what? |
| 17:50.36 | verdelyi | root_: I was wondering on "I am the distro" |
| 17:51.28 | verdelyi | root_: it may be a good thing to choose a distro with many users.. at least if you can't get along on your own |
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| 17:51.35 | root_ | verdelyi: Oh...I've been developing a commercial OS. So it's my problem. Its for my company and our products. |
| 17:52.31 | verdelyi | root_: but you don't have to use it all day, do you? |
| 17:52.33 | root_ | verdelyi: I think I have plenty of support from our upstream |
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| 17:52.45 | root_ | verdelyi: what do you mean? |
| 17:52.53 | root_ | verdelyi: the OS? |
| 17:52.59 | verdelyi | yes |
| 17:53.10 | verdelyi | root_: is it linux at all? |
| 17:53.32 | verdelyi | well. time to get this one off the channel |
| 17:53.44 | root_ | verdelyi: well it's part of the devel. process. Believe it or not I haven't used Windows in my shop for 3 years now. Yes it's Linux based. |
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| 17:55.08 | root_ | verdelyi: what? what's going on? |
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| 17:55.51 | verdelyi | root_: umm I tried to get us into some private conversation to get the offtopic stuff off the channel but I failed in an epic manner |
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| 17:56.14 | root_ | verdelyi: ohhh gess sorry about that everybody |
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| 17:56.33 | verdelyi | root_: at least they have something to read |
| 17:56.57 | HandyGandy | In the Katalog documentation, it says chose Create Catalog from the Konqueror menu. But I can't find such an entry... |
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| 18:08.36 | a-st | hello |
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| 18:09.14 | a-st | i've got a problem again. i can't compile kdelibs because of this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/226618/ |
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| 18:09.53 | thiago_home | a-st: you're missing libQtUiTools |
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| 18:11.10 | a-st | thiago_home: What package should provide it? |
| 18:11.41 | thiago_home | Qt |
| 18:13.37 | a-st | thiago_home: do i have to compile qt with a special option to get this lib? |
| 18:13.50 | thiago_home | no |
| 18:14.49 | a-st | thiago_home: okay i've got /usr/lib/libQtUiTools.a /usr/lib/libQtUiTools.prl |
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| 18:16.44 | a-st | Any hints? :-\ |
| 18:18.14 | thiago_home | that's it |
| 18:18.36 | a-st | yes but kdelibs always fails at the point mentioned above |
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| 18:20.06 | a-st | Is there none who can helpme with this issue? |
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| 18:25.07 | JeroenDeDauw | I'm having troubles with the wireless of my laptop on KDE. When I start in KDE, it sais the network management is disabled, and I can't find any way to enable it. |
| 18:25.08 | JeroenDeDauw | I first installed Gnome, after that KDE. I can enable the networking stuff in Gnome, and then switch to KDE and have it there working (but that's not nice to do every time obviously) |
| 18:25.19 | JeroenDeDauw | Anyone an idea how to make it eanbled? |
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| 18:38.25 | a-st | ah i fixed it |
| 18:38.45 | a-st | some pch-files were responsible :P |
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| 19:17.52 | lamah | does kde3 haves a dolphin or browser is konqueror |
| 19:18.35 | BtbN | Hm... again my question: Is it possible to dock a window to one side of the screen, so it smallers the space where other windows maximise? |
| 19:18.56 | BtbN | Like Miranda and other tools do on Windows when dragged to a side of the screen |
| 19:18.58 | cb400f | lamah: konq was the official default browser in kde3.. but d3lphin existed |
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| 19:19.09 | cb400f | file browser |
| 19:19.48 | lamah | cb400f: u mean kde3 doesn't haves a dolph |
| 19:20.06 | lamah | ? |
| 19:20.14 | cb400f | I mean d3lphin existed.. but it wasn't officially part of kde |
| 19:20.40 | cb400f | but e.g. kubuntu used it as the default file manager in kde3 |
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| 19:26.58 | BtbN | Hm, i still can't believe this. Nobody knows anything about this feature :/ |
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| 19:37.44 | Mamarok | BtbN: did you try dragging a window over the left or right border? |
| 19:38.07 | Mamarok | you need to drag it over the border |
| 19:38.14 | Mamarok | not just to the border |
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| 19:42.27 | junkDawgie | may be like that "window grouping" functionality... seems i recall that you must be using the Oxygen window theme to use it.... i'm using Crystal and the side by side window arranging cannot be triggered. 4.4.3. |
| 19:43.15 | BtbN | Mamarok, it is half-maximised then, not docked |
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| 19:43.23 | BtbN | other windows still maximise over it |
| 19:44.04 | BtbN | Hm, i'm using the plastique stile, junkDawgie |
| 19:44.13 | BtbN | I don't like the Oxygen style |
| 19:44.51 | junkDawgie | works for you then? just align the window to the edge and it resizes to half-screen? |
| 19:45.03 | BtbN | Yes, it does, but thats not what i want |
| 19:45.29 | BtbN | I want it to "reserve" that space, so other windows don't maximise over it |
| 19:45.39 | BtbN | And i'm NOT looking for stay-on-top |
| 19:45.48 | thiago_home | that's a dockable area |
| 19:45.59 | thiago_home | only plasma panels do that |
| 19:46.18 | BtbN | I got a plasma pannel that offery the functionality i want |
| 19:46.29 | BtbN | (Kopete contact list) |
| 19:46.43 | BtbN | how do i get it into a "dockable area"? |
| 19:46.58 | BtbN | well, not sure if it's a pannel :/ |
| 19:47.49 | thiago_home | make the panel not hide itself |
| 19:48.03 | thiago_home | it's one of the panel options when you click "More" |
| 19:49.27 | BtbN | hm, something's going wrong now. KDE freezes when i try to drag the Widget out of the Widget-Selector |
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| 19:50.00 | BtbN | happens with every widget i try |
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| 19:51.14 | BtbN | in the second i grab any widget, KDE freezes, until i hit escape |
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| 20:09.00 | BtbN | I don't belive it. Plasma widgets stopped working. But... why?! |
| 20:09.27 | sreich | define "stopped working" |
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| 20:11.15 | Nece228 | change the kde logo |
| 20:11.23 | Nece228 | because you stole it from tractor company |
| 20:11.34 | Nece228 | http://www.autobonus.lt/foto/22/DSC03267.jpg |
| 20:11.36 | alienBOB | Sigh |
| 20:12.20 | Nece228 | aint it funny? |
| 20:12.21 | sreich | ah, so I take it gears are patented? |
| 20:12.22 | JeroenDeDauw | I'm having troubles with the wireless of my laptop on KDE. When I start in KDE, it sais the network management is disabled, and I can't find any way to enable it. |
| 20:12.22 | JeroenDeDauw | I first installed Gnome, after that KDE. I can enable the networking stuff in Gnome, and then switch to KDE and have it there working (but that's not nice to do every time obviously) |
| 20:12.22 | JeroenDeDauw | Anyone an idea how to make it eanbled? |
| 20:12.42 | BtbN | sreich, in the moment i grab a widget in the list, the screen freezes |
| 20:12.49 | BtbN | Until i hit escape |
| 20:12.55 | sreich | ah right, that |
| 20:12.56 | Nece228 | sreich: of course |
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| 20:13.21 | Nece228 | sreich: on every kirovec you see that logo. in fact that company massively uses gears |
| 20:13.28 | Nece228 | gears pictures i mean |
| 20:13.41 | BtbN | sreich, you know the problem? How do i get rid of it? |
| 20:14.00 | sreich | BtbN: no, I've never heard of that |
| 20:14.06 | sreich | alternatively I think you can just double click it |
| 20:15.01 | BtbN | sreich, double clicked it, it appeared in my Bar |
| 20:15.07 | BtbN | dragged it out, and plasma crashed :/ |
| 20:15.21 | BtbN | with a GIANT backtrace |
| 20:18.36 | BtbN | hrm |
| 20:19.11 | BtbN | At least it works again after the crash :D |
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| 20:21.59 | BtbN | Hm, now i got my contact-list-plasma-widget, how to i stick it to one side of the screen? |
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| 21:54.01 | jerichowasahoax | In Device Actions, if I want to check if a disc is black, do I check if OpticalDisc.blank is 1 or true? |
| 21:54.11 | jerichowasahoax | er |
| 21:54.14 | jerichowasahoax | disc is blank* |
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| 21:56.50 | sreich | what are we talking about? |
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| 21:59.16 | jerichowasahoax | sreich: Sec, let me screenshot it |
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| 22:01.29 | jerichowasahoax | sreich: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5733962/isthisright.png - Am I Doin' It Right? |
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| 22:03.47 | sreich | jerichowasahoax: it's probably true |
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