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| 00:50.45 | fanderal | kde 4.4.4: which file do I edit to customize the right-click application menu? Thanks |
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| 00:53.41 | frank82vt | fanderal see http://forums.opensuse.org/get-help-here/applications/393573-add-document-model-right-click-option-create-new.html |
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| 00:54.48 | frank82vt | How can i make that the name of the template shown in the right click kde konqueror "create new" menu be "word document" and the name of the file created be "word.doc"? |
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| 00:58.09 | nickee | Please answer a KUbuntu question, since there's no answer in #kubuntu? How set the taskbar tabs to only show the tabs for on the current desktop? Ex, for Firefox, with windows on other desktops, only show the FF windows on this desktop, in the taskbar/panel at the bottom of the screen? |
| 01:00.00 | fanderal | my bad; wasn't clear. Its the right-click on the desktop... reorganizing which apps are shown and the order they appear in the menu |
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| 01:11.42 | fanderal | n/m... seems right-clicking the panel's MenuEditor works for both the panel's app menu and the desktop's right-click app menus. |
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| 01:32.06 | tomsdale | I'm on kde 4.4 I seem to be missing the option to install a complete new theme - has there something changed recently? |
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| 01:33.50 | tomsdale | it used to be in the Desktop Settings dialoge when you rightclick you Desktop |
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| 01:37.33 | tomsdale | now I can only install partial themes e.G. for the login manager fonts e.g. |
| 01:38.12 | sreich | think it changed to systemsettings somewhere |
| 01:38.16 | sreich | appearance->workspace or sth? |
| 01:40.40 | tomsdale | sreich - you're right - I must have had tomatos on my eyes.Appearances -> Style -> Workspace. |
| 01:41.24 | tomsdale | thx |
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| 02:04.30 | nickee | What would it take to get someone to fix this annoying, old bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228027 ? |
| 02:05.16 | mdeanda | is there a way to recover my addressbook? i think the db files got corrupt |
| 02:05.40 | mdeanda | ^ the one kmail uses of course. |
| 02:05.54 | sreich | nickee: well..do you know how to code? |
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| 02:07.13 | nickee | sreich: yes, but fixing that bug is not my place in the KDE ecosystem - a KDE dev is much more efficient, & proper. sreich can you fix that? |
| 02:07.47 | mdeanda | nickee: ecosystem? hehe. you in marketing? :P |
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| 02:08.27 | nickee | mdeanda: ;) no , thanks, engineering ;) mdeanda can you fix that? |
| 02:08.55 | sreich | nickee: well, if you want it fixed that's the most efficient way, is to do it yourself. that's basically how FOSS works. either that or pay someone to fix it |
| 02:08.56 | mdeanda | i'm in the same position as you. |
| 02:09.23 | tomsdale | nickee: maybe you could vote for it - it has 0 votes so far from what I see. |
| 02:09.30 | mdeanda | nickee: i'm tempted to try. i've always wanted to do kde development. but i have too many little open projects going on right now. :( |
| 02:09.37 | tomsdale | sry - I'm not a dev either btw. |
| 02:10.30 | sreich | nickee: I may be able to fix it..but I am not interested in kate development unless it's a bug that affects me |
| 02:11.00 | tomsdale | ah - actually this above is closed - the real one is 182759 |
| 02:11.02 | sreich | (because I use kate. well, kate-part msotly) |
| 02:11.42 | nickee | sreich: 1) tanks for your interest in this matter, 2) please alllow me to improve your thinking about how fsw operates: A developer (ex, of Kate) should attempt to a) be aware of, & b) fix bugs in their sw. Of course, for volunteers, that's an ideal sometimes not achieved. But, it is the 3rd item, important, which you didn't state. ;) |
| 02:12.00 | sreich | anyways - I'm very busy.. |
| 02:13.24 | sreich | nickee: and what evidence do you bring forth that proves otherwise? That proves that they are not attempting to "fix or be aware of" bugs in their software? |
| 02:14.34 | sreich | kate developers fix bugs. even some non-kate developers fix kate bugs. It's only because they aren't fixing *your* bug that leads you to think they aren't fixing any bugs |
| 02:14.53 | nickee | tomsdale: WOW! 221 Votes in the base bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182759 - I suppose I could vote & make it 222, but, gee, with 200 votes, one would wish that someone would fix that. I'm thinking it must be a simple fix. :( |
| 02:14.55 | sreich | too many users have that thought pattern... |
| 02:15.17 | mdeanda | nickee: does it save "recent files" if you have a session open? |
| 02:15.53 | nickee | mdeanda: no, it doesn't. |
| 02:17.11 | nickee | mdeanda: try this: open kate, open new file, type 1 character in the file, save it, close that 1 file window in kate, look at Files> OpenRecent - it's not there. :( |
| 02:17.30 | kdepepo | nickee, usually one person has 20 votes, so there are some 11 users voting for the bug :) |
| 02:19.24 | nickee | kdepepo: Hmm. I don't know anything about that kind of voting. I supposed it was 1 vote per person. Why it would be 20, seems strange to me. |
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| 02:20.12 | sreich | each user gets 100 total votes. 20 can be allocated to 1 bug |
| 02:20.17 | sreich | (I think it's 100) |
| 02:20.27 | kdepepo | sreich, 100 per application |
| 02:20.33 | sreich | ah |
| 02:21.52 | kdepepo | I wonder how some people manage to vote for their own bugs. I cannot do this. |
| 02:22.05 | mdeanda | so speaking of kate... i get a silly popup saying ctrl+b is unambiguous.. |
| 02:22.12 | mdeanda | but i can't figure out what else uses ctrl+b :( |
| 02:22.45 | mdeanda | ^ and now, i'm not trying to _bold_ code |
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| 02:23.41 | sreich | mdeanda: it's bookmark |
| 02:23.53 | sreich | (default is set to bookmark) |
| 02:24.04 | mdeanda | yeah. it's the only thing with that shortcut set. :( |
| 02:24.04 | sreich | you could just try to set the shortcut again |
| 02:24.11 | mdeanda | this is odd. i'll take a screenshot |
| 02:25.28 | mdeanda | hmm. can't repro. in the config shortcuts screen.. it said it was conflicting with "" |
| 02:25.39 | kdepepo | maybe because the shortcut is Ctrl+B (that would be Ctrl+Shift+b) instead of Ctrl+b |
| 02:26.03 | kdepepo | ctrl+shift+b is "block mode" ... change that |
| 02:26.20 | mdeanda | nope. removed that one and still |
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| 02:28.20 | mdeanda | ahh. in control center - "standard keyboard shortcuts" ther was an "unknown - add bookmark" set to use ctrl+b |
| 02:28.42 | mdeanda | that's gotta be a bug... |
| 02:29.28 | mdeanda | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236368 would you guys consider that to be the same thing? |
| 02:30.24 | sreich | yes :) |
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| 05:26.45 | mohamad | hi, somebody here use bespin? |
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| 06:22.16 | HandyGandy | I'm running ubuntu karmic upgraded to lucid. Can I can KDE 4.5 backports right now? |
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| 06:30.30 | szal | HandyGandy: read the topic & ask that question in #kubuntu |
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| 07:02.28 | stix | Hi guys. Just switched to kde from gnome to try something different. Can I put the panel at the bottom at the top of the screen? |
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| 07:03.37 | ksimon | yes it works |
| 07:03.50 | ksimon | you have to unlock the widgets |
| 07:04.04 | cb400f | unlock widgets -> click on cashew in right of panel -> drago on "screen edge" button |
| 07:04.26 | ksimon | then right-click at a free place and got ot panel settings |
| 07:04.50 | stix | yes got it |
| 07:05.36 | stix | but how do I get it to the top? |
| 07:06.13 | ksimon | there is a point screen-edge |
| 07:06.17 | ksimon | or similar |
| 07:07.00 | stix | yes nothing happens when I click it or try to drag |
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| 07:07.30 | stix | oh got it now :) |
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| 07:08.23 | ksimon | drag and drop to the upper edge works? |
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| 07:09.46 | stix | yes it did |
| 07:10.10 | stix | now I just need to figure out why the clock is in the middle of the bar and taking all the space |
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| 07:10.15 | nigo | hello everyone,i've got a question that why kde in kubuntu is slower than in backtrack3?is it because the version of KDE in different? |
| 07:10.52 | ksimon | fine |
| 07:11.03 | frank__ | hey guys, hope to find help here... i have kde on my Gentoosystem emerged and as i tried to open my home folder, or the trash it starts opening up one windows after another and wont stop this |
| 07:11.08 | cb400f | there could be a 100 different reasons.. different base system, different packaging, different user settings, different hardware (?)... |
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| 07:13.34 | frank__ | anyone got an idea? |
| 07:13.46 | nigo | i have installed bt3 and kubuntu10.04 in my notbook(cpu P4 1.6HZ),but the kubuntu10.04 is much faster than kubuntu |
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| 07:19.57 | mirsev_ | Hi, stupid question perhaps... Does anybody here use an RSS/Atom agregator? What is the best? For KDE... I tried akregator but it seems not well maintained now. Any idea? |
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| 07:23.29 | Jucato | mirsev_: akregator is pretty much maintained (unless you have some news that I'm not aware of) |
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| 07:27.47 | stix | why is everything on the panel left aligned? I want the clock on the right and some other stuff to the left |
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| 07:30.32 | cb400f | use a spacer widget |
| 07:30.48 | cb400f | .. if you don't want a taskbar widget in the middle of course |
| 07:31.06 | stix | don't want to look at the spacer, can it be invisible? |
| 07:31.25 | cb400f | I think it is, isn't it? |
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| 07:34.14 | stix | it is a black bar |
| 07:34.34 | stix | can't this stupid alignment just be turned off? |
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| 07:36.46 | stix | What's up with this desktop-folder? Can't I just have my icons on the "real" desktop? |
| 07:36.47 | oneforall | I have my clock on the right |
| 07:37.06 | stix | oneforall, please tell me how |
| 07:37.07 | cb400f | [09:02] <stix> Hi guys. Just switched to kde from gnome to try something different. |
| 07:37.14 | cb400f | .. sounds like you want gnome ;-) |
| 07:37.30 | oneforall | I clicked x on that desktop folder :) |
| 07:37.38 | stix | if my patience runs out, yes :) |
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| 07:37.45 | cb400f | but yes, you can get a 1990s style desktop back with files cluttered all over the place |
| 07:37.52 | cb400f | switch the desktop activity to folder view |
| 07:38.20 | stix | cb400f, what do you want with all the empty space then? |
| 07:38.49 | oneforall | I thought the way he said it he wants to get rid of the default folder view |
| 07:38.57 | cb400f | peace of mind? widgets? e.g. multiple folder view widgets showing contents of different folders? |
| 07:39.08 | oneforall | and just have the desktop and drag drop icons to it and widgets |
| 07:39.35 | cb400f | yes, that is achieved by using the folder view activity instead of the folder view widget :-) |
| 07:39.48 | stix | cb400f, peace of mind? I want my icons on the desktop, not in a small window where I cannot find anything |
| 07:39.58 | oneforall | not for me I put it to desktop :) |
| 07:40.16 | oneforall | I don't want that other big folder |
| 07:40.30 | cb400f | you can make the widget bigger you know.. or the icons smaller or whatever |
| 07:41.01 | stix | cb400f, I have two monitors, I don't want a widget stretching over two monitors |
| 07:41.19 | stix | I can't drag the icons from the desktop folder to the real desktop |
| 07:42.07 | Jucato | [15:39] <cb400f> yes, that is achieved by using the folder view activity instead of the folder view widget :-) |
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| 07:43.31 | stix | Jucato, I have no idea how to do that? Can it be so hard to have my icons on a desktop? Why is dragging them not possible? |
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| 07:44.21 | pinotree | tried right clicking on the desktop â settings â activity? |
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| 07:45.06 | stix | The type is set to Desktop? |
| 07:45.27 | cb400f | yes, set it to folder view to travel back in time |
| 07:45.36 | stix | oh great |
| 07:45.50 | stix | this is not obvious to figure out |
| 07:46.09 | oneforall | stix, file:///home/guru/public_html/screenshot/snapshot15.png |
| 07:46.22 | pinotree | oneforall: yeah, sure |
| 07:46.26 | oneforall | err change file:/// to http:// |
| 07:46.27 | Jucato | ... |
| 07:46.33 | stix | oneforall, sure I can access that one? |
| 07:46.53 | oneforall | err hang on some one talking to me and distracking me :( |
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| 08:41.30 | [Steven_M] | what's the name of the blue dafualt plasma theme in kde 4.3.5? I don't like the kde 4.4.4 default theme. |
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| 08:48.02 | [Steven_M] | what's the name of the blue dafualt plasma theme in kde 4.3.5? I don't like the kde 4.4.4 default theme. |
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| 08:49.18 | pinotree | (no need to ask again every 5 minutes) |
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| 08:54.45 | cb400f | [Steven_M]: huh? there's no default blue plasma theme.. I think you may be confused because the plasma theme is transparent and the default wallpaper happens to be blue |
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| 08:55.54 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: the pannel was blue |
| 08:56.42 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: so was the splash screen |
| 08:57.31 | cb400f | are you talking about this? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.3/screenshots/desktop.png |
| 08:57.48 | cb400f | .. that panel is not blue.. it's transparent.. the _wallpaper_ is blue |
| 08:59.27 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: similar to that, but the panel was a darker blue |
| 09:00.22 | cb400f | the default plasma theme in both 4.3 and 4.4 was Air |
| 09:00.36 | cb400f | and the panel is transparent with a greyish tone |
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| 09:00.47 | nfrs | hi |
| 09:01.47 | nfrs | I'm using kubuntu 10.04/KDE 4.4.2/kmix 3.6, and there doesn't appear to be a balance control in KMix. what am I missing? |
| 09:03.42 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: was "oxygen" ever blue instead of grey? |
| 09:04.57 | cb400f | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/screenshots/desktop.png |
| 09:05.11 | cb400f | I believe that's transparent with a blackish tone |
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| 09:06.57 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: ok thanks |
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| 09:35.04 | [Steven_M] | is there a way to set the panel to a solid color in kde 4.4.4? |
| 09:37.33 | tsimpson | you can set it to use a custom background image, which you can create with a solid color |
| 09:37.57 | tsimpson | in System Settings -> Advanced -> Plasma Theme Details |
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| 09:39.33 | cb400f | or use the aya theme component for the panel via the same place |
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| 09:39.45 | cb400f | or disable compositing altogether |
| 09:39.59 | sopho | it is way too hot for working |
| 09:40.57 | sopho | i guess i should join #weather then |
| 09:41.59 | [Steven_M] | thanks all |
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| 09:44.30 | nfrs | I'm using kubuntu 10.04/KDE 4.4.2/kmix 3.6, and there doesn't appear to be a balance control in KMix. what am I missing? |
| 09:46.22 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: I can't find the aye theme component |
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| 09:51.34 | [Steven_M] | tsimpson: what's the best way to make a file with a solid color |
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| 09:52.14 | tsimpson | open a image editor and create a new image, then just fill it with whatever color you want |
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| 09:54.20 | Kame2 | tsimpson: i think it must be a svg-graphic |
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| 09:56.49 | Kame2 | [Steven_M]: start inkscape, create a rect, color it like you want it, set the id of the rect to 'center', save it and chose it from plasma theme details |
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| 09:58.02 | MrDarkUser | Hi, I am looking at the techbase wiki, trying to figure out how to build KDE so I can play with the taskbar behavior |
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| 09:58.41 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: what do you want to change there? |
| 09:58.44 | MrDarkUser | The funny thing is that all of the wiki articles are to go from 3 to 4, and are missing a whole lot of stuff |
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| 09:59.43 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I really want to make multi column application buttons, right now each application icon takes up a huge amount of space |
| 09:59.44 | [Steven_M] | tsimpson: Kame2: thought so, just wondered if there was a special color-file generator in kde. |
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| 10:00.24 | Kame2 | [Steven_M]: there's nothing like this, no |
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| 10:01.23 | [Steven_M] | Kame2: ok, thanks |
| 10:01.31 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: there was a grid-plasmoid that is not continued as far as i know. but this would be the way to go |
| 10:01.35 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 and I also want to get icons for a folder IN the taskbar... and I would very much like to do an application tab, where the icon to start the program is always present, and the representation of the windows are associated with that |
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| 10:02.08 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, yes, I suppose I need to play with plasmoids, which i might be able to do with a scripting language |
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| 10:02.59 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: to the application icons thing: you mean like in windows 7? |
| 10:03.02 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 without building the entirety of KDE.. however, there are also a few things like improper single clicking/doubleclicking grouping |
| 10:03.17 | cb400f | [Steven_M]: is the aya theme installed? .. and are you able to find systemsettings -> advanced -> desktop theme details? |
| 10:03.18 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, maybe.. I avoid windows |
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| 10:04.21 | wm4 | open this link in konqueror: http://hlvm.forge.ocamlcore.org/ |
| 10:04.21 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: all you want should be possible with plasmoids. maybe not all things with scriptet plasmoids, but i'm not familar with this |
| 10:06.00 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, Havent seen windows7 way of doing stuff, Just know that for the kde system settings widget, I was able to identify a one word change that would make it always single click |
| 10:06.04 | pinotree | wm4: "The requested URL / was not found on this server.", on any browser |
| 10:06.42 | wm4 | pinotree: works for me |
| 10:06.54 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 instead of acting like it needs a single click.. oh, and I really want to add another column to dolphin so I can have the check/uncheck not overload the icon |
| 10:07.00 | wm4 | pinotree: but it opens thousands of certtificate validation dialogs |
| 10:07.06 | pinotree | nope |
| 10:07.14 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: no it's not and the get new theme tool can't find it, never mind. |
| 10:08.13 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, so the part that shows selected or not is even deeper into kde than just dolphin, so I need to get into kdelibs... so I will have to build KDE |
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| 10:08.28 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: in this case, yes |
| 10:08.34 | [Steven_M] | cb400f: ohh, found it now sorry. |
| 10:09.41 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: if you go to techbase.kde.org -> Setting up a KDE development environment -> KDE 4 (Development version, TRUNK), there you get a guide how to set this up |
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| 10:12.33 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 reading that now.. think I went off on a tangent |
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| 10:20.23 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, thx, kinda sad was looking near there but missed the specifics for each distro |
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| 10:25.12 | [Steven_M] | night all |
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| 10:29.14 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 The setting up the enviornment section is a part where I deviated, I have know I dea why it is talking about makeobj, I need it to tell me if I need it or not |
| 10:29.53 | Kame2 | i never used it... |
| 10:30.10 | Kame2 | don't know what it is for, but it works without |
| 10:30.59 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I have no idea why it is telling me to do stuff with bashrc.. I know how to create a user.. .and I am thinking we/I could move that part of the wiki to a supporting page |
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| 10:31.55 | Kame2 | it's just easier with this helper scripts ;) |
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| 10:32.21 | Kame2 | and it sets the environment variables |
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| 10:32.52 | Kame2 | but i saved it in a script and run this if i need it. so i can use the system-kde from this user too |
| 10:33.01 | MrDarkUser | kame2, I had started following the : use a virtual machine method... and compliation failed on kdelibs something to do with dbus |
| 10:33.34 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 I have the prerequisites installed.. I'm using kubuntu 10.04 so my qt is already 4.7 |
| 10:33.46 | Kame2 | there is a virtual machine method? that wasn't there when i started with this (some years ago...) |
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| 10:34.13 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: just start with kdelibs than |
| 10:34.43 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, It's not very helpfull... It wants everything ran as root and its a lot slower compiling in a VM |
| 10:35.02 | Kame2 | so why do you use this method? |
| 10:35.21 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, however, If I had been successfull, i think i would have saved the VM and shared the vm image with other people |
| 10:35.47 | Kame2 | you could tar up your user home as well ;) |
| 10:36.40 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I think there are patterns between intermediate... yes that is quite true... but too many problems when putting it into a new distro |
| 10:37.32 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I dont know how big it would be to have a VM with full kde build enviornment / source / qt-devel |
| 10:38.20 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I would even want to ship it with ccache so the next guy gets quick compilations |
| 10:38.42 | MrDarkUser | .. however that would be at the expense of initial download size.. but it should compress well |
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| 10:40.50 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: you should think about what you want... just start the simple way and only think on you ;) if you are familar with setting up a kde build, then you can go and share your knowlage ;) |
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| 10:42.15 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, true, I'm not in a position to share till I know what I'm doing... , trying to figure out what this script stuff is |
| 10:43.27 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I bought this machine just for development, so I am fine logging in as kde-devel |
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| 10:44.05 | clarkda | anyone using an LDAP addressbook? |
| 10:44.17 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, I don't know what it's all talking about, |
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| 10:50.28 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 This is telling me that i shouldnt use the method described If I don't know what I am doing... beause it generates immense useless load on the svn server... |
| 10:51.02 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, kinda sad, cause I just need to mess with KDE libs. |
| 10:52.41 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: where is this written? |
| 10:54.13 | Klanticus | actually, it's saying to not checkout the entire trunk if you're going to work on just a module |
| 10:54.35 | Klanticus | but if you're going to build everything, go ahead |
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| 10:56.07 | d3x | has anyone experienced a problem that an empty dashboard is taking > 3 seconds to show up? |
| 10:59.07 | Klanticus | d3x: after login? |
| 10:59.28 | d3x | can you access the dashboard before login? :) |
| 10:59.36 | d3x | it takes like this everytime |
| 10:59.43 | d3x | both on intel and nvidia cards |
| 11:00.41 | Klanticus | i'm checking here. What version you're using? |
| 11:00.50 | d3x | 4.4.4 |
| 11:00.55 | d3x | debian sid |
| 11:01.56 | Klanticus | it works fine here, but I'm on 4.5 rc1 |
| 11:02.01 | d3x | also, switching konsole tabs on one of geforces (8200) takes around .5s, but that's a separate problem and i guess it's nvidia's fault |
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| 11:02.31 | d3x | well... for me it worked like this always... since 4.2.something |
| 11:02.45 | d3x | (when i started using kde4) |
| 11:03.09 | Klanticus | it can well be due to drivers problem |
| 11:03.58 | Klanticus | try to upgrade it |
| 11:04.28 | d3x | as i said it's been like this for >1.5y now :) |
| 11:04.36 | d3x | i have up-to-date drivers |
| 11:05.21 | d3x | that's not that big deal, i can live without the dashboard |
| 11:05.39 | Klanticus | maybe ppl in #plasma can help you better |
| 11:05.52 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 it told me not to use a method in the getting_started/build/kde4 |
| 11:05.55 | Klanticus | sure you can, but if it's a problem, it should be reported |
| 11:06.08 | d3x | ok, i'll ask #plasma then |
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| 11:11.39 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: as Klanticus said: this is related to the lines directly below. just go to kdelibs and start there |
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| 11:12.43 | ealexp | hi |
| 11:12.58 | ealexp | does Konsole supports visual bells ? |
| 11:14.02 | Klanticus | ealexp: try to check Settings -> Configure Notifications |
| 11:14.50 | ealexp | yes I checked "show a message in a popup" option for "bell in visible session" |
| 11:15.25 | ealexp | but when I set visualbell in vim and I press Escape (which should cause a bell), nothing happens |
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| 11:18.00 | Klanticus | i think vim it will not trigger a bell when you set it to use visual bells |
| 11:18.33 | d3x | try pressing tab in bash |
| 11:18.36 | ealexp | yes but my question was : does konsole supports visual bells ? |
| 11:18.47 | ealexp | "visual bells" |
| 11:18.50 | ealexp | not bells |
| 11:20.31 | Klanticus | ealexp: when you set it to use a notification for bells, whenever a bell is triggered, konsole will pop a notification |
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| 11:21.17 | ealexp | yes but I'm not talking about bells but visual bells Klanticus |
| 11:21.18 | Klanticus | ealexp: when you set visualbell in vim, it will not trigger a bell. Instead, it will try to flash the screen |
| 11:21.52 | Klanticus | if konsole can do that flash, I don't know |
| 11:21.53 | ealexp | and I'm asking if konsole supports that |
| 11:22.17 | ealexp | ok |
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| 12:15.19 | dridk-tampere | who is George Goldberg ? |
| 12:15.52 | d3x | dridk-tampere, is that some kind of quiz? |
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| 12:16.56 | dridk-tampere | d3x: no :) I was with him in the fly... I said him to join me on IRC ; but i dont know his nickname |
| 12:18.02 | d3x | quick googling results in 'grundleborg' |
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| 12:36.03 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 build failed ;( I think it needs some of those enviornment variables listed by the scripts.. but Donno why it shows scripts as optional |
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| 12:37.25 | MrDarkUser | libattica... probably just a new package requirement |
| 12:37.44 | Kame2 | libattica should be part of kdesupport |
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| 12:52.55 | xrfang | anyone has same problem or know how to solve it? thanks |
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| 12:54.02 | tarun | I want to know what is the use of edit -> copy input to -> none in konsole |
| 12:54.10 | tarun | it is always checked |
| 12:54.51 | tarun | and also if I try to check it agian when many tabs are opened then konsole crashes |
| 12:54.59 | Shaan7 | tarun: it means that input isn't copied to any other tab |
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| 13:24.19 | Klanticus | mm3: Digital Clock IIRC |
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| 13:56.06 | iman | i have a question about error 404 in yum please help me |
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| 13:58.57 | pinotree | iman: please ask in #fedora |
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| 14:24.22 | SatManUK | hi, has anybody managed to get KVirc to run with Perl 5.12 / KDE 4.4, kernel 2.6.34 |
| 14:24.39 | SatManUK | i tried to install kvirc4 but its asking me for Perl 5.10 |
| 14:25.03 | SatManUK | i have tried to ask in kvirc channel but nobody is answering |
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| 14:49.10 | dentoo_ | Hi all, I tried to find a way to display different virtual desktops on my dual screen(laptop + external), but all I can get is one virtual desktop shared between both of them |
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| 14:51.54 | dame | how can i make chromium default browser in kde? |
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| 14:57.15 | dentoo | Hi all, I tried to find a way to display different virtual desktops on my dual screen(laptop + external), but all I can get is one virtual desktop shared between both of them..I'm using kubuntu 10.04 kde 4.4 |
| 14:57.54 | phorsyon | dame: system settings --> default applications --> web browser |
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| 15:02.32 | dame | yes but i have strange issues. for example when i click some link on the rss widget konqueror is loading too and the chromium icon is staying way too long on the pointer |
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| 15:07.45 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 Well, kdebase is now compiling and qtcreator is being built, I tweaked http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdebase so it is less confusing |
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| 15:08.53 | phorsyon | dame: chromium also has an option in it's settings to make it the default browser, does that work? |
| 15:09.00 | madigens | dame: try setting chromium as the primary program for the html and xhtml+xml file types |
| 15:10.39 | dame | phorsyon: no, it doesn't work with kde. im brand new on kde, on gnome it was working fine |
| 15:10.50 | dame | madigens: thanks :) |
| 15:11.50 | madigens | not sure why you need to change 2 settings for this to work. maybe an oversight. |
| 15:12.03 | madigens | at least it solved the problem for me |
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| 15:16.33 | arkascha | Is there currently a way to query the data collected by strigi ? |
| 15:17.04 | arkascha | I am using opensuse-11.2, KDE-4.4.4 and "strigi:/" in konqueror URL bar does not work. |
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| 15:23.07 | Kame2 | arkascha: there should be a search-box in dolphin |
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| 15:25.07 | arkascha | Kame2: and where do I find that search box ?!? |
| 15:25.27 | Kame2 | in the top right |
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| 15:26.26 | arkascha | Kame2: no, I cannot see anything like that. Top right is an "information" thing. |
| 15:27.08 | Kame2 | can you take a screenshot of your dolphin window? |
| 15:27.16 | arkascha | Kame2: one minute... |
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| 15:28.58 | arkascha | Kame2: http://imagebin.ca/view/rzJ5Tr.html |
| 15:29.28 | Kame2 | right click on the toolbar |
| 15:29.40 | Kame2 | unlock it |
| 15:30.08 | Kame2 | right click again. there should be something like 'visible toolbars' (don't know the exact term) |
| 15:30.15 | dame | how do you guys make gnome apps blend more nicely into kde? |
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| 15:30.37 | Kame2 | there you find the searchbar |
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| 15:32.33 | Kame2 | or simpler settings -> toolbars shown |
| 15:32.35 | arkascha | Kame2: found it, thanks, I will try it. |
| 15:33.58 | arkascha | Kame2: the search-url looks horible :-( and is there a way to see where the document is located ? its path ? |
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| 15:35.11 | arkascha | Kame2: and it appears, that the results are from an outdated database, before changing the backend... |
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| 15:35.54 | Kame2 | Kame2: i can't help you much more, as i don't really use it myself... |
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| 15:36.10 | arkascha | Kame2: sure, thanks for the help ! |
| 15:36.16 | Kame2 | np |
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| 15:47.21 | randommeister | Hello. I want to make a tool to convert "recently used files" from KDE to GTK-standard and viceversa...but I don't know where KDE stores its recently used files. So...anyone knows? |
| 15:47.51 | randommeister | Or "recent documents", I think that might be more accurate. |
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| 15:55.02 | randommeister | Hm, everytime I ask this is dead. My luck is too awesome. |
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| 15:57.41 | Torch | randommeister: $HOME/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments |
| 15:58.35 | randommeister | Oh thank you very much! |
| 15:59.16 | randommeister | Yep here they are. Thanks again :D |
| 15:59.24 | Torch | randommeister: yw |
| 15:59.57 | aozora | What does it mean to share a widget over the network? |
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| 16:15.00 | Marchitos | is there anyone testing kde 4.5 RC1? |
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| 16:25.53 | verdelyi | Marchitos: yep |
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| 16:28.24 | Marchitos | is dolphin freezing for u sometimes? |
| 16:28.27 | Marchitos | and also crashing |
| 16:29.04 | verdelyi | Marchitos: yes, and sometimes gwenview as well, most frequently when I quit them |
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| 16:29.12 | Marchitos | yes.. |
| 16:29.19 | Marchitos | is there any bug reported about this? |
| 16:30.04 | verdelyi | Marchitos: I would be surprised if the devs hadn't come across this but it may be worths a search in bugzilla |
| 16:30.05 | sreich | Marchitos: backtrace? |
| 16:30.14 | Marchitos | i need to make it crashing.. |
| 16:30.42 | verdelyi | and he has to have lots of debuginfo packages |
| 16:30.57 | Marchitos | now it won't crash.. |
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| 16:31.06 | sreich | it sounds like the d-bus timeout issue that I've had for a while... |
| 16:31.06 | Marchitos | i'll give u the backtrace when it will go down |
| 16:32.00 | sreich | which I think the new release of d-bus will fix, and maybe qt 4.6.3 will fix it. but maybe that's just wishful thinking |
| 16:32.14 | verdelyi | I1m on 4.6.3 so no :P |
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| 16:34.00 | sreich | I'd say report it if it doesn't exist already. if it does make sure you state that you're on rc1...I was hoping this issue would be gone by the time release came, but.. |
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| 16:35.22 | Marchitos | frozen.. |
| 16:37.08 | verdelyi | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235420 |
| 16:37.20 | verdelyi | "Still occurs in RC 1. I closed the Dolphin and then crashed." and it has a backtrace |
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| 16:39.26 | halvors1 | Can anyone tell me where i can download the Plasma icons for use in my own program? |
| 16:40.12 | l3v3n7 | sreich: do you know when that version of dbus will be released? |
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| 16:40.37 | l3v3n7 | I am also having lots of dbus timeout errors... |
| 16:40.38 | sreich | halvors1: websvn.kde.org/ |
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| 16:40.50 | sreich | then find ../trunk/kdesupport |
| 16:40.59 | halvors1 | I know but where i did not find it there.... |
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| 16:41.08 | Marchitos | is it really strigi fault? |
| 16:41.11 | halvors1 | ok.. |
| 16:41.13 | Marchitos | i don't have nepomuk\strigi enabled.. |
| 16:41.37 | sreich | l3v3n7: no idea. I'm not even sure if it would fix them, because there seem to be different ones...thiago_home would know more (but he isn't here). |
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| 16:42.22 | l3v3n7 | there is in fact a patched version for arch but it does not seem to work for me |
| 16:42.31 | l3v3n7 | bad luck I guess |
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| 16:44.19 | halvors1 | sreich: Where in kdesupport? |
| 16:44.29 | sreich | oxygen-icons |
| 16:45.19 | halvors1 | ok |
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| 16:47.09 | halvors1 | sreich: But how download all in the oxygen-icons folder? |
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| 16:47.17 | sreich | oh |
| 16:48.04 | sreich | you'd have to use svn and do: svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons |
| 16:48.26 | dcorbin_work | I've added a panel. I've placed some icons on that panel for quick and easy access. But I don't seem to be able to rearrange those icons like I can widgets. What am I missing? |
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| 16:49.17 | halvors1 | sreich: Thanks ;) |
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| 16:51.28 | Shaan7 | dcorbin_work: I use it that way too, and am able to rearrange icons like widgets, are you sure your panel isn't locked ? |
| 16:51.38 | sreich | dcorbin_work: right click panel (or click thte panel's "cashew") and go to panel settings |
| 16:51.53 | sreich | then you can rearrange them once the panel setting popup is..opened |
| 16:51.54 | dcorbin_work | Shaan7: yes. |
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| 16:52.37 | dcorbin_work | Ah. I thought If I unlocked it, I could drag them. I didn't realize I had to be in "edit mode". |
| 16:53.12 | Shaan7 | dcorbin_work: :) |
| 16:53.34 | Shaan7 | you might also want to try plasma-netbook :) |
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| 18:01.45 | redf1sh | Hey, I'm having an issue with panel, when I mouseover anything occasionaly part of a window will be cropped out revealing the window behind it (or the desktop). I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers, and saw this same problem with a much earlier version of kde4, wondering if anyone knows of a fix? |
| 18:02.32 | redf1sh | I'm running 4.4 and don't have compositing enabled |
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| 19:01.49 | kimael | Hi! I have just installed KDE 4.4 (Gentoo) and I have a problem with Akonadi server initialization. I saved the "log" in a file, I can see error I do not really understand. |
| 19:01.58 | kimael | Anyone knows a documentation? or want to help ? |
| 19:02.06 | kimael | NB: French I am. |
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| 19:11.18 | luke-jr | does Kopete really support Skype now? |
| 19:12.40 | pinotree | as in communicating with a skype binary via dbus |
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| 19:15.06 | night | hi, how can i snap icons to grid on kde desktop? |
| 19:15.08 | luke-jr | pinotree: boo :( |
| 19:16.12 | sreich | night: what icons? and where are they? the icons in folderview? or do you also want to set the desktop type to be "folder view"? |
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| 19:17.06 | night | sreich: no, the ones from kickoff when you click "add to desktop" |
| 19:17.09 | night | i want them to snap to grid |
| 19:17.29 | sreich | you can't |
| 19:17.47 | sreich | although I think there is a widget on kde-look.org that allows grouping other widgets |
| 19:17.58 | sreich | not sure if that will or won't work though, for this particular case... |
| 19:18.14 | night | i will see |
| 19:18.30 | sreich | or you could just set folderview to look in e.g. ~/Programs. That folder would contain all of the .desktop files you want |
| 19:19.00 | kimael | Hi! I have a problem with Akonadi server initialization... can you help me? |
| 19:19.29 | night | sreich: no, i have png's for my icons |
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| 19:30.43 | vaix | can anyone help me figure out how to debug a Knetworkmanager problem? KNM isn't prompting for a password when I try to connect to VPN |
| 19:30.56 | vaix | Isolated that as the problem - but not sure how to debug next |
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| 19:32.27 | cb400f | http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement |
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| 19:34.17 | vaix | cb400f: tnx |
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| 19:46.28 | utdmr | hi. i'm using kmail, akregator and kjots often. and i installed kontact. now i want only Kontact's icon in system tray. Doesn't kontact have system tray support? |
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| 19:48.02 | cb400f | there's no kontact systray icon per se... just disable the systray icons for everything other than kmail for example |
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| 19:49.32 | utdmr | cb400f: thank you. i did it and it works. i thought it only opens kmail, but it opens kontact. thank you. |
| 19:49.37 | night | how can i just change kdm background? |
| 19:50.10 | cb400f | find out where the kdm theme is installed and replace the file |
| 19:50.12 | kosmofield | Hi, does anyone know where I can find documentation for KControl? I want to adjust some settings through the konsole |
| 19:50.24 | cb400f | kcontrol is dead :-) |
| 19:50.34 | kosmofield | not in kde3 ;) |
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| 19:51.46 | pinotree | which settings? kcontrol does nothing on its own |
| 19:51.50 | utdmr | one more question. i want kontact to run on system startup, in system tray. but when i run it with "kontact --iconify", it opens a minimized windows, but i want it in sys tray only. |
| 19:52.48 | kosmofield | I have a script that changes the content in the directory used for background images, I need to refresh the content in that dir :| |
| 19:58.16 | night | im installing some slpashscreens from system settings add-on installer and maybe 1 showed up on list that i can use |
| 19:58.19 | night | why ? |
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| 19:58.40 | aozora | night yeah that happens I dont know why |
| 19:58.46 | night | aozora: how can i fix that? |
| 19:58.53 | night | or get them to appear? |
| 19:58.58 | aozora | I dont know if you ever figure it let me know |
| 19:59.10 | aozora | It seems like kde 3.X did that as well |
| 19:59.13 | night | ... |
| 19:59.19 | night | this kde seems so far so crap |
| 19:59.25 | aozora | It is pretty strange you'd think they'd fix it |
| 19:59.41 | aozora | Probably some addons are only compatible with certain versions of kde |
| 19:59.58 | aozora | But you see addons for ALL versions and those versions dont install properly |
| 20:00.05 | night | great |
| 20:00.14 | night | because addons i've installed say KDE 4.x |
| 20:00.57 | night | aozora: where in settings can i change kdm theme? |
| 20:01.12 | aozora | you need to kdesudo systemsettings |
| 20:01.12 | Kame2 | night: that things have to be in an defined layout (subdir with name of theme, and such things). when an user uploads his artwork that don't respect this rules, it can't be used from the installer |
| 20:01.29 | aozora | Then go to advanced->logon manager |
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| 20:01.32 | night | Kame2: ok, so why is that kind of shit allowed to installer? |
| 20:01.34 | night | aozora: kk ty |
| 20:01.36 | aozora | If it errs do su - instead of su |
| 20:01.41 | Kame2 | so this is nothing the kde-devs can change. it's up to the users uploading wrong packaged artwork |
| 20:01.59 | night | and upon upload files arent checked for structure? |
| 20:02.13 | aozora | Kame2 maybe they should filter for addons that respect those rules |
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| 20:03.38 | Kame2 | would be better, but this would break the generic layout of the sites (remember that there is kde-look.org, gnome-look.org kde-apps.org and so on and every site has his categorys like plasma themes, wallpaper, etc which all have different rules) |
| 20:04.08 | aozora | Leave kde-look alone but only show downloads for addons that actually work |
| 20:04.13 | Kame2 | and this would need much much more power on server side |
| 20:05.31 | Kame2 | you can't know which will work without extracting the package on server side. and as mentioned the server has to know ever different rule for all the categorys |
| 20:06.40 | Kame2 | best would be to don't allow direct uploads on the websites but use a tool that knows the rules |
| 20:07.37 | Kame2 | this is going to happen partly... with newer versions of kde on some places where you can download things, you can upload them too (with rule checking) |
| 20:08.23 | Kame2 | so in future this problem should get smaller |
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| 21:45.55 | frank82vt | How can i make a kde internet shortcuts that been readable in windows ? |
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| 21:55.55 | Tomasu | is it normal for the runner to hang up a lot? especially when using the calculator, it tends to like to just hang, or fail to return any result at all |
| 21:56.12 | Tomasu | s/the runner/krunner/ |
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| 22:04.51 | Torch | Tomasu: it has its bugs. |
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| 22:19.32 | thiago | firefox is not a KDE application |
| 22:19.39 | thiago | you need to ask some Firefox community for help |
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| 22:22.10 | data_buses | i need help with yum update |
| 22:22.55 | pinotree | data_buses: #fedora is the right channel for you |
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| 22:43.43 | luke-jr | sorry for the delay, googling for alternatives, but not coming up with any... :/ |
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| 22:44.49 | luke-jr | sorry for the delay, googling for alternatives, but not coming up with any... :/ |
| 22:45.03 | luke-jr | pinotree: thiago: any ideas? |
| 22:45.05 | Torch | luke-jr: again, what is glabels? |
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| 22:45.12 | luke-jr | business cards, mailing labels, CD labels, etc |
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| 22:45.13 | luke-jr | in particular, I want to create a bunch of margin-free 3x5 images and print them on a single sheet of paper |
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| 22:50.54 | luke-jr | ... |
| 22:51.35 | luke-jr | fwiw: kbarcode is KDE 3 only (gitorious kde4 port doesn't compile) and qlabels is a bad joke of a clone |
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| 23:15.46 | i_is_cat | anyone know of a way to get gkrellm and xchat, which i believe are gtk apps, to have transparency in kde4? im coming up short on google |
| 23:16.59 | i_is_cat | been using xfce and just installed alienbob's latest kde packages for slackware.. seems way nicer than any previous version, its just this transparency thing that doesnt work for me :S |
| 23:17.39 | i_is_cat | should mention the desktop settings transparency works great for other apps.. like amsn and terminal.. |
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| 23:23.00 | Torch | i_is_cat: no idea, but try konversation and ksysguard ;-) |
| 23:23.14 | Torch | i_is_cat: or a sysmonitoring plasmoid. there are a number of those. |
| 23:23.32 | i_is_cat | i dont like the plasmoids.. i find them annoying and sluggish |
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