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| 00:05.44 | jsevilleja | Hi |
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| 00:06.16 | oobe | sreich, i tested dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession |
| 00:06.19 | oobe | it didnt work |
| 00:06.29 | jsevilleja | I'm trying to edit KDM config from systemsettings (KDE 4.5) but it shows that I cannot save configuration (even if as root) |
| 00:06.37 | sreich | did you try running it from qdbusviewer |
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| 00:08.23 | blip- | anyone been able to successfully install new widgets using the built-in interface ? I've added a few, restarted but they don't show up. Checking again today, it shows them as not even installed. tried again, no luck |
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| 00:08.48 | oobe | no i tried running it from konsole and i also added that command to my kde menu and ran it from there |
| 00:09.44 | blip- | oobe: ah, where do they get installed so i can try running from konsole ? |
| 00:09.46 | oobe | sreich do you know if pam is needed? |
| 00:09.56 | oobe | i use slackware and it doesnt have pam |
| 00:10.19 | gorgonzola | jsevilleja: i had the same issue. apparently the kcm module is bugged, you need to edit your kdmrc file by hand... |
| 00:10.25 | sreich | oobe: tried running what from konsole? |
| 00:10.33 | blip- | are we on the same topic :D |
| 00:10.43 | oobe | "dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession" |
| 00:10.46 | gorgonzola | jsevilleja: in kubuntu, its in /etc/kde4/kde4/kdmrc |
| 00:10.52 | sreich | oobe: yes, and I said to try qdbusviewer |
| 00:10.58 | sreich | and pam is required for kdm, afik |
| 00:11.14 | oobe | yea im just saying that is how i did it |
| 00:11.20 | oobe | i assumed it would work that way |
| 00:11.36 | oobe | im about to try it with ddbusviewer |
| 00:12.09 | jsevilleja | thanks gorgonzola, I wanted to avoid editing by hand :( |
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| 00:12.24 | jsevilleja | but I've read that kubuntu solved this |
| 00:12.28 | utku | is there any way i can change cursor theme of kdm? |
| 00:12.31 | jsevilleja | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/592110 |
| 00:12.39 | gorgonzola | jsevilleja: yeah, it's a bother, but the syntax is preetty simple :) good luck! |
| 00:13.06 | oobe | sreich, qdbusviewer doesnt seem to have a run dialogue how do tell it to execute a command? |
| 00:13.22 | gorgonzola | jsevilleja: i don't know. at least at release time in lucid, it was not solved. I haven't tested in the newer kde versions, though. |
| 00:13.27 | oobe | just seems like an app for browsing the desktop bus |
| 00:13.45 | sreich | oobe: browsing and executing.. |
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| 00:23.26 | jsevilleja | gorgonzola: you were right, is easy :) |
| 00:23.34 | jsevilleja | thanks to the devs, for comment the file |
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| 00:39.23 | padde | is it normal, that I can never build kdesdk, kdenetwork, and kdeplasma-addons via kdesrc-build? trying for a couple of days, but those three always error out |
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| 00:42.17 | LameBMX | kde-4.4.5 on gentoo ... i dont want gwenview as an option in the device notifier unless i plug a camera in. how can i adjust these setting. i went into the device action settings and they are too cryptic to figure out for sure, and i never got the desired result |
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| 00:44.42 | James147 | cant figure that out either... the option to remove them is disabled... goes to look in system folders for a configfile to edit |
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| 00:48.53 | sreich | LameBMX: how is it too cryptic? it's right in Device Actions of the settings of the device notifier |
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| 00:57.16 | jcolby | Is it possible to end my KDE session when I choose the leave-> sleep option from kickoff, instead of just locking it? |
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| 01:00.20 | LameBMX | sreich, i dont want it there that was the whole point. |
| 01:00.47 | sreich | LameBMX: what? |
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| 01:08.51 | blip- | where would be a good place to see screenshots of KDE4 plasma desktops ? I'm trying to see what nice arrangements are out there to help figure out my own. For example I can't figure out if I need a battery monitor on my system tray as well as the desktop, or if I need that Amarok Music Player widget |
| 01:10.59 | sreich | why would you need the battery monitor on the desktop & the system tray? |
| 01:11.28 | James147 | blip-: you dont 'need' anything on your desktop :) place what ever you 'want' on it... its not like once you choose you cant change things :) |
| 01:11.41 | sreich | also, you can put the system tray onthe desktop. just to give you more options :-D |
| 01:13.41 | blip- | The unlimited possibilities are making me dizzy :D I've never really used widgets in Linux or Windows before - now they are so nice that some can replace programs - I'm thinking of having a utility desktop that has Qalculate, Conversion, News updates etc.. then I won't have to open a browser for that sort of thing :) |
| 01:14.27 | blip- | sreich: ye I dragged the system tray on the desktop by accident once, was pretty shocking :D |
| 01:14.42 | James147 | blip-: I would place stuff like that on the dash board so that you can brin it up without switching desktop/minimising all your windows |
| 01:15.17 | blip- | James147: the dashboard can have it's own widgets that don't show up on the normal desktop ? |
| 01:15.29 | James147 | blip-: generally though, I suggest playing around with each of the widgets and finiding the ones you like... and where you like them :) |
| 01:15.35 | James147 | bipolar: yes |
| 01:15.39 | James147 | blip-: ^^ sorry |
| 01:16.42 | James147 | blip-: system settings > workspace > "Dashboard" :--> "Show an independent widget set" (at least on kde 4.5) |
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| 01:16.59 | blip- | James147: hmm that would be exactly what i need |
| 01:17.41 | blip- | superb ! thanks :) |
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| 02:32.05 | dive | does anyone have a cure for the duplicate icons in device notfier/dolphin when I insert a cd/dvd? |
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| 02:34.49 | Sho_ | dive: hm can't say I've seen that happen |
| 02:35.15 | dive | I usually get 2 and sometimes 4 icons |
| 02:36.53 | dive | could it be persistent-cd.rules in hal? |
| 02:37.11 | dive | maybe something creating duplicate messages or so? |
| 02:37.25 | Sho_ | the info is coming down from HAL, so some sort of HAL issue sounds like a reasonable assumption at least |
| 02:39.16 | dive | actually those cd rules are udev I just thought |
| 02:39.35 | dive | but hal may have something similar |
| 02:39.56 | Sho_ | yeah, it has fdi policy files and stuff |
| 02:40.07 | Sho_ | not my area of expertise, though |
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| 06:35.57 | sobczyk | hi, I work normally with external monitor on my laptop, I have main bar on laptop screen, although when I disonnect the external screen, kde4 switches the external desktop to my laptop screen, thus I loose the main bar and the wallpaper switches, is this a bug in kde4? |
| 06:36.22 | sobczyk | main bar=panel with K menu |
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| 06:52.05 | sobczyk | screen when both:http://img820.imageshack.us/i/screen1fm.png/ screen when disconnected: http://img717.imageshack.us/i/screen2pv.png/ the one to the left is laptop |
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| 07:34.08 | angel-tsankov | is this room appropriate for questions regardign kdevelop |
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| 07:39.41 | cb400f | angel-tsankov: yes, but #kdevelop is prolly even more appropriate.. depending on how specific they are |
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| 07:43.49 | angel-tsankov | cb400f: I cannot find this chat room |
| 07:44.31 | angel-tsankov | I found it |
| 07:44.33 | cb400f | hm.. well it exists.. 70 people there |
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| 07:45.06 | cb400f | ok |
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| 07:48.36 | angel-tsankov | cb400f: strangely, I cannot see this chat room listed on irc.freenode.org or on irc.kde.org, but I can enter it |
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| 08:28.42 | setooo | is there a way to say to kde to disable all feature that can slow the system (I need to run a program for 10 min but it should be the most prioritize and sould'nt been slow down |
| 08:29.26 | amdrozd | setooo: renice maybe? |
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| 08:30.29 | hahawut | setooo, disable composting and nepomuk/strigi |
| 08:31.00 | setooo | ok this two things were done |
| 08:31.42 | setooo | (I hesitate in ctrl-esc menu, and renice setting to change the scheduler to File instead of normal.. but I have never try that before.. so not for this time) |
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| 09:13.13 | evilgenius101 | Hi |
| 09:13.53 | evilgenius101 | i installed kde on my server, and over vnc, the desktop icon text isn't readable its all like pixalted |
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| 09:27.07 | Marchitos | what damn i have to do? |
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| 09:37.34 | Marchitos | the device is not working falling back to.. |
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| 09:37.39 | Marchitos | what do i have to? |
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| 09:37.49 | mgisbers | Hi * |
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| 09:39.58 | mgisbers | Is it possible to force kmail to check for new mail in a specified folder instead of checking all folders when using disconnected imap??? |
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| 10:00.00 | mrub | hi. a few days ago i asked how to get my kmail pop account to download the mails again which i deleted locally (but they are still present on the server). unfortunately the suggestion to delete the account didn't work - after recreation of that account it still wouldn't download the mails. so where does kmail store the information which mail to download and which not? any idea (or at least can you understand what i'm talking about? ;) )? |
| 10:01.31 | cb400f | wonder if you could download them with thunderbird and import them to kmail :-) |
| 10:01.55 | cb400f | you're sure the server doesn't tell the client "these have already been downloaded" |
| 10:03.01 | mrub | hm |
| 10:03.20 | mrub | can't imagine that the server is that smart^^ |
| 10:04.18 | mrub | yeah the thunderbird way would probably work but there must be an easy way |
| 10:05.03 | cb400f | maybe try asking in #kontact that's where you'll find the experts.. but don't disturb them too much, they have much to do :-) |
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| 10:05.50 | mrub | hehe |
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| 10:21.43 | Space_Man | mrub: are you sure the mail is still available on the server? |
| 10:22.34 | mrub | Space_Man: that was the first thing i checked. I also configured kmail in the manner to keep mail on the server |
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| 10:23.25 | Space_Man | you may have a mail server that automatically deletes messages older than x days! |
| 10:23.53 | mrub | Space_Man: no i looked that up via web interface |
| 10:24.42 | Space_Man | kmail must have an index or a record of the last message retrieved |
| 10:25.04 | mrub | the problem came up during rc2 when kmail downloaded my mails multiple times so i deleted them locally in kmail. after that it won't download the 'old' mails at all |
| 10:25.33 | howlymowly | hi poeple... short question: is it somehow possible to make dolphin remember the zoom-level for each folder? i mean it remembers view-options, preview-options, etc... but not the zoom-level for some reason... |
| 10:25.36 | mrub | Space_Man: yeah but i just don't know where to find it |
| 10:25.58 | Space_Man | I'm still using thunderbird |
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| 10:27.46 | ramanK | I've just installed the OpenSuse KDE 4.5 live cd on my netbook. but when I choose the netbook workspace it freeze |
| 10:27.53 | ramanK | how can I enable it |
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| 10:28.28 | mrub | ha, found the file. it was in /home/user/.kde/share/apps/kmail/ |
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| 10:29.21 | ramanK | I log out and log in again and now the applications have no border and are in full screen but in desktop workspace! |
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| 10:32.57 | ramanK | no one knows how can I switch to netbook workspace? |
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| 10:33.12 | mrub | ramanK: what do you mean with 'in desktop workspace'? |
| 10:33.32 | Space_Man | ramanK: ask on your distro's channel |
| 10:34.04 | ramanK | Space_Man: they didn't help me ! |
| 10:34.11 | Space_Man | ah |
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| 10:34.53 | ramanK | mrub: I'm in the normal plasma desktop workspace not in the netbook plasma workspace |
| 10:35.02 | judgen | Is it possible to make amarok 1.4 use the kde4 theme? |
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| 10:36.38 | Jucato | judgen: nope |
| 10:36.53 | mrub | ramanK: have a look at http://community.kde.org/Plasma_Netbook_Reference_Platform there is also the channel #plasma-netbook |
| 10:37.42 | Jucato | judgen: unless you can find a Qt/KDE 3 widget style that tries to emulate Qt/KDE 4 widget styles, but afaik there are none (and even if there was one, it would most likely still not look that similar) |
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| 10:41.34 | mrub | judgen: you could rty clementine which is based on amarok 1.4 code |
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| 10:41.54 | judgen | mrub: I'll look into it. |
| 10:42.07 | rethus | i have used karm seperatly from kontact - cause of some bugs in previews version while using with kontact |
| 10:42.21 | rethus | now i have upgrade and reactivate karm into kontact. |
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| 10:42.50 | rethus | the data of the file i've choosen before would shown, but not the timestamps for each schedule |
| 10:42.51 | judgen | mrub: is there an official site for clementine or is the kde-apps.org the prefered way of aquisitioning? |
| 10:42.58 | rethus | anyone know, whats wrong here? |
| 10:43.01 | judgen | oh i found it |
| 10:43.26 | howlymowly | hi poeple... short question: i always get "installation failed" when trying to install a new service in dolphin in the preferences -> services menu |
| 10:43.31 | howlymowly | any idea about thisß |
| 10:43.32 | howlymowly | ? |
| 10:43.37 | mrub | judgen: i have not looked into it. i'm a happy amarok 2 user ;) |
| 10:43.58 | judgen | i never got the hang of using amarok2... never even understood it.. |
| 10:45.54 | judgen | mrub: YES! Clementine is just awsome! =D |
| 10:45.56 | judgen | Thanks again |
| 10:46.01 | mrub | yeah i can understand. at the beginning it just looked alien to me. but amarok 2 has really evolved since its beginning and now i got used to the new style |
| 10:46.17 | mrub | you're welcome ;) |
| 10:46.33 | mrub | howlymowly: let me try it |
| 10:46.48 | howlymowly | mrub: kk... |
| 10:47.03 | howlymowly | (btw i am running version 4.5) |
| 10:48.15 | rethus | any idea? |
| 10:48.42 | mrub | howlymowly: i get that message too. don't know how to fix it. sorry |
| 10:49.07 | howlymowly | hmm.. too bad :( i think that's a new feature of kde 4.5 and one of the coolest things since a long time ^^ |
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| 10:49.48 | mrub | the spreading of GHNS within kde is really nice |
| 10:50.03 | pelandrit | what's up folks? |
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| 10:50.59 | pelandrit | help, i need a way to print .doc without open it, just from context menu, is tha possible? |
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| 10:53.24 | julio-PE | pelandrit: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Getting_Started/Starting_from_the_command_line |
| 10:53.29 | howlymowly | pelandrit: yeah.. it is... |
| 10:53.44 | julio-PE | i don't remember... maybe soffice -p |
| 10:53.58 | julio-PE | soffice -p document.doc |
| 10:54.32 | howlymowly | pelandrit: how about using "file associations" within kde? --> alt + f2 "file associations" |
| 10:55.00 | howlymowly | you could put in julio-PE's command in there for *.doc files |
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| 10:55.26 | LameBMX | pelandrit, man foomatic .... it will need like 2 conversions ... |
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| 10:59.52 | Jamer | Hello. I only use 2 KDE programs (neither of which is data-intensive), but my virtuoso database is 400 megabytes. How would I figure out which program is owns the 400 megabytes? |
| 11:00.02 | Jamer | which program owns* |
| 11:00.41 | julio-PE | Jamer: for memory usage --> Ctrl+ESC |
| 11:01.27 | Jamer | I am using Ubuntu 10.04, with the default GNOME desktop. To which program would I give Ctrl+Esc to? |
| 11:01.37 | judgen | ok another q: What s the name of the on screen keyboard for kde4? |
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| 11:02.56 | ubiquitous1980 | how to edit panel colour? |
| 11:03.56 | cb400f | ubiquitous1980: that's only possible with Aya theme.. for all other plasma themes the panel colour is "hardcoded" in the svg files |
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| 11:04.27 | somegeust45 | an interesting question : how can I shutdown my netbook in Plasma Netbook Workspace?! |
| 11:04.27 | cb400f | so either use aya or switch to a plasma theme you like better |
| 11:04.51 | julio-PE | judgen: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=onscreen+keyboard+for+KDE+4 |
| 11:04.52 | cb400f | somegeust45: press ctrl+alt+del.. or right click on some background -> Leave |
| 11:05.10 | somegeust45 | cb400f: let me see |
| 11:05.24 | mrub | Jamer: may i ask which programs you use? |
| 11:05.27 | judgen | julio-PE: haha that was funyn |
| 11:05.33 | Jamer | mrub: I use Konsole and Konversation. |
| 11:05.40 | cb400f | somegeust45: and if you want you can add the log out/lock widget to your panel |
| 11:06.19 | somegeust45 | cb400f: thanks , why it's somwhere that nobody see in first look?! |
| 11:06.46 | ubiquitous1980 | cb400f thanks for the tip |
| 11:06.54 | tktiddle | Does kde bluetooth support a2dp? When I try to pair my bluetooth device I get 'your bluetooth does not support input capabalities' |
| 11:07.24 | cb400f | somegeust45: the netbook shell is new.. I guess it needs to mature a bit.. and maybe the devs need some slapping with a usability bat |
| 11:07.28 | ubiquitous1980 | cb400f refers to a honda bike I assume ;) also back into topic: is it a matter of editing a config file for the aya theme, or is it point and click? |
| 11:08.27 | cb400f | if you have installed and selected the aya theme, you can configure the colour in the kde colour settings.. it'll use the window background colour for the panel too |
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| 11:09.12 | pelandrit | thanks julio-PE and howlymowly. now, there is some way to put that soffice -p document.doc in the mai context menu?, not only inside the "open with" context submenu |
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| 11:09.15 | mrub | Jamer: do you have nepomuk installed? maybe kde systemsettings? because you can switch off the desktop search |
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| 11:09.30 | pelandrit | main* |
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| 11:10.02 | mrub | or limit the memory usage and the directiories which are included |
| 11:10.46 | howlymowly | pelandrit: yes, that#s also possible.. you woudl have to make a *.desktop file in the ~/.kde/share/services/servicemenus/ |
| 11:10.50 | howlymowly | folder |
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| 11:11.19 | howlymowly | you should google for that... and also look on opendesktop.org .. maybe someone already made an extension for this |
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| 11:11.52 | Jamer | mrub: Yes, it looks like I have both of those installed as dependences. |
| 11:12.03 | someguest54 | another question : how can I disable plasma netbook top panel autohide feature? |
| 11:12.32 | mrub | Jamer: have a look in the system settings under desktop search |
| 11:14.02 | mrub | *at |
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| 11:15.46 | pelandrit | thanks again howlymowly, thank you very much |
| 11:16.22 | Jamer | mrub: Ahh! Found it. Thank you. |
| 11:16.29 | howlymowly | glad to help... |
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| 11:24.44 | codertux | hi, anyone know of some KDE 4.5 reviews online? I want to write an article about what's new and need some inspiration :) |
| 11:25.22 | emilsedgh | codertux: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/reviews/2010/08/hands-on-kde-45-launches-with-tiling-new-notifications.ars |
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| 11:27.04 | codertux | emilsedgh: thanks, found that one but it's license is... restrictive :) |
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| 11:44.47 | phoenix_ | hello |
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| 11:46.29 | menak | say, what happened to the addressbook in kde 4.4? I haven't used it for a while. But today I wanted to add a contact. after entering the contact data i was asked which address book it should be saved to. But there is no address book to choose from. |
| 11:46.58 | menak | and none of the over 100 contacts contain information, only the name |
| 11:47.11 | menak | hates the guts out of akonadi... |
| 11:48.14 | menak | i wrote "I haven't used it for a while", what i meant was that i hadn't edited or added an entry for a while. |
| 11:48.32 | menak | seems kmail still has access to the address book |
| 11:48.34 | menak | ... |
| 11:48.35 | menak | wierd |
| 11:53.18 | pelandrit | howlymowly: just for info, i found this useful aplucation to make servicemenus y kde4 easily, http://www.sharpley.org.uk/page/software/servicemenu |
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| 11:53.36 | pelandrit | aplication* |
| 11:54.35 | howlymowly | ahh kewl, thx.. for the info i may need that sometime |
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| 12:01.18 | pelandrit | i think this aplication should be part of kconfig |
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| 12:13.57 | saLOUt | Don't we have a graphic "proud member of kde" in the style of these KDE Sofware logos http://www.kde.org/stuff/clipart.php ? |
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| 12:15.03 | Senior | hi all |
| 12:15.14 | Senior | i got a problem with Kmail. can i ask here ? |
| 12:15.42 | julio-PE | Senior: just ask |
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| 12:19.01 | Zaister | I have a weird phenomenon with Kontact 4.4.5 in KDE SC 4.5: When I close the window, and then restore it by clicking on a systray icon, the window always resizes to some standard size and does not remember the original size. Is there something I can do abou thtat? |
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| 12:20.06 | julio-PE | Zaister: recently you connect your Laptop to a datashow? |
| 12:20.23 | Zaister | no, this is on a completely new installation |
| 12:20.25 | julio-PE | is a Laptop, isn't? |
| 12:20.31 | Zaister | nope, desktop |
| 12:21.44 | julio-PE | i had the same "problem" when i connect to a datashow... resolution change and the windows in next boot don't memorize states. try reboot again |
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| 12:22.35 | Zaister | Interestingly if I user kmail, the windows size is resored correctiy |
| 12:23.03 | julio-PE | hmmm, i don't know :( |
| 12:24.02 | Zaister | thanks anywaa |
| 12:24.06 | Zaister | y |
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| 12:31.14 | Senior | julio-PE: Well yesterday happened to my kmail that the box where is the TEXT of the email disappeared |
| 12:31.31 | Senior | i can see the TEXT just when go to Replay |
| 12:31.44 | Senior | so the message text tab is missing... how to get it back ? |
| 12:33.04 | julio-PE | Senior: there is no option in View menu? |
| 12:33.25 | julio-PE | maybe like View->message body |
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| 12:36.03 | Senior | i was looking in View menu, let me take a look again |
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| 12:40.10 | julio-PE | Senior: you found? |
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| 12:45.10 | TheSenior | julio-PE: no |
| 12:47.25 | julio-PE | TheSenior: you have total certainty that message body tab was removed? it's resizible. |
| 12:49.13 | julio-PE | TheSenior: there is no logic in Kmail can remove it. What is the function of Kmail? show your e-mails? without this tab, nothing happens =) |
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| 12:50.44 | julio-PE | TheSenior: abstract: is strange kmail remove Message Body tab. |
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| 12:51.06 | julio-PE | TheSenior: abstract: is strange kmail can remove Message Body tab. |
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| 13:04.20 | litb | hey folks |
| 13:04.40 | litb | i like the window-grouping feature of kde4.4. it works especially well with synctex between kile+okular! |
| 13:04.44 | TheSenior | julio-PE: i did a screenshot : http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3287/kmail.png |
| 13:09.10 | julio-PE | TheSenior: wow! really! nostalgia moment with kde 3.* =) |
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| 13:10.17 | td123 | is there any way to unhide the +7000 hidden functions in kcachegrind? |
| 13:10.41 | emilsedgh | td123: change the depth |
| 13:11.53 | td123 | how |
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| 13:13.35 | td123 | hmm, I found maximum number of items in list.. but it wont let me go above 500.. wth |
| 13:16.53 | litb | i got a question tho |
| 13:17.16 | litb | when i use "kstart --activate okular ..." it does not seem to switch to "okular" if okular and kile are in the same windowing group |
| 13:18.01 | litb | i thought kstart would switch to the okular window. does this not work when okular inhibits to start a new window, but instead uses the already created application instance? |
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| 13:30.58 | TheSenior | anyone can help me with my kmail, text of the email disappeared: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3287/kmail.png |
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| 13:31.55 | c-101 | Hello there |
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| 13:52.54 | howlymowly | hi poeple.. short question: the "get hot new stuff" dialogue... could someone try out if it is very slow at the moment? my computer struggles to load any of the things in it... |
| 13:55.05 | lliehu | howlymowly: same here. for me it says it failed to load http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml |
| 13:55.42 | howlymowly | kk.. than its not my fault i guess... thx lliehu for trying out |
| 13:55.55 | lliehu | howlymowly: np :) |
| 13:57.02 | Space_Man | the stuff is so hot it's melted the server ;) |
| 13:58.01 | lliehu | :D |
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| 13:59.27 | FloridaGuy | for kde4 desktop effects...whats better OpenGL or Xrender? |
| 14:00.13 | Jucato | OpenGL would give you the whole shebang |
| 14:03.22 | FloridaGuy | Jucato: Failed to activate desktop effects useing the given configuration options...Settings will be reverted to there previous values........could i be missing something....Xrender works... |
| 14:04.09 | FloridaGuy | all of it dident go thru... |
| 14:04.55 | FloridaGuy | failed to activate the desktop effects useing the given configuation |
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| 14:05.50 | Jucato | FloridaGuy: you probably need 3d hardware acceleration and might need to install the proper drivers for your graphics card to get it. please try consulting your distro about the details |
| 14:06.53 | FloridaGuy | ok |
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| 14:25.20 | Gentoochild | hi. Today I have moved away all my kmail stuff from .kde/share/config and .kde/share/apps and set up a new account. But this also hangs up kmail if I try to send something |
| 14:25.26 | Gentoochild | or if I save a message as draft |
| 14:25.37 | Gentoochild | so something underneath is broken here. Any ideaß |
| 14:25.39 | Gentoochild | ? |
| 14:25.54 | Gentoochild | in a completely new account it works normally. |
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| 14:27.17 | Gentoochild | fortunately, receiving seems unaffected yet |
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| 14:30.01 | xzy | what's the original idea of 'K' in kde name : ? it was based on the top of CDE but dunno how c became k Kool was just established later as a good explaination but that version really sucks :) |
| 14:30.22 | Gentoochild | I believe there is no real meaning behind it. |
| 14:30.28 | Gentoochild | just like in the CE part of Windows CE |
| 14:30.33 | litb | i heard it means Kool |
| 14:30.53 | xzy | 'kool' is not a correct english word |
| 14:31.09 | Gentoochild | possible. after all, back in those days, the English c was not as spread throughout the German language as it is today |
| 14:31.18 | Gentoochild | KDE was "invented" by a German |
| 14:31.23 | Gentoochild | AFAIK |
| 14:31.43 | xzy | it would make more sense with cde -> kde |
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| 14:31.53 | xzy | since it was based on the top of CDE environment |
| 14:32.19 | xzy | kool may be just a later explanation why it's kde, but this is not the original I think so |
| 14:32.41 | litb | as in german's "cool" but just starting with "K". |
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| 14:33.13 | xzy | is there a 'kool' german word then ? |
| 14:33.51 | neverendingo | xzy: kool was not the original name? |
| 14:33.52 | Gentoochild | nope |
| 14:34.00 | xzy | http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed§Hdr=on&spellToler=&search=cool |
| 14:34.01 | litb | maybe "k" stands for kelvin? i.e it's the first character. so it's 0kelvin == cool lol |
| 14:34.03 | xzy | I did not find one. |
| 14:34.08 | neverendingo | xzy: http://kde.org/announcements/announcement.php |
| 14:34.12 | Gentoochild | I write it "Kuhl", b/c in German, a long "oo" is written as "uh" |
| 14:34.28 | neverendingo | ^that's the original first announcement |
| 14:34.42 | Jucato | xzy: it originally stood for "kool" but was dropped early on. sure it's not the correct spelling of an English word, but we're talking about hackers (not crackers) here. it's all in good fun |
| 14:34.56 | Jucato | (it was never based on top of CDE btw) |
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| 14:35.13 | Katovatzschyn | "The name KDE was intended as a word play on the existing Common Desktop Environment, available for Unix systems. CDE was an X11-based user environment jointly developed by HP, IBM, and Sun, through the X/Open Company, with an interface and productivity tools based on the Motif graphical widget toolkit. It was supposed to be an intuitively easy-to-use desktop computer environment.[5] The K was originally suggested to stand for "Kool", |
| 14:35.14 | xzy | then the wikipage lies ... |
| 14:35.14 | Katovatzschyn | but it was quickly decided that the K should stand for nothing in particular - thus the KDE acronym expanded to "K Desktop Environment"." |
| 14:35.42 | xzy | 'Kool' is not a reasonable word ... |
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| 14:35.51 | xzy | that's why I am just wondering ... |
| 14:35.54 | Jucato | xzy: it's history |
| 14:36.06 | xzy | this line has got 0 information you wrote now. |
| 14:36.23 | Jucato | ... |
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| 14:37.12 | xzy | no idea how kool (non-existent) word could make sense |
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| 14:37.51 | Katovatzschyn | This word would be used sometimes as internet slang in the 90's |
| 14:37.56 | Katovatzschyn | "kool" |
| 14:38.08 | Jucato | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kool |
| 14:38.10 | Katovatzschyn | "kewl" |
| 14:38.40 | ahmos | hi, I want a powerful video converter program please, anybody knows one? |
| 14:39.01 | Jucato | ahmos: might want to check konverter in www.kde-apps.org |
| 14:39.09 | Jucato | (I think that's the name) |
| 14:39.31 | xzy | Katovatzschyn: k, thank you. |
| 14:39.54 | ahmos | yeah most of converters there depends on kde3 libs and wants a lot of tweaking |
| 14:40.37 | ahmos | know any thing else |
| 14:40.59 | Jucato | well there's kdenlive, but it's not exactly a converter but an editor. no other ideas sorry |
| 14:41.27 | Jucato | ahmos: if it doesn't have to be a KDE app, you could try asking in your distro for recommendations |
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| 14:42.14 | ahmos | Jucato ok thank you I will try ... |
| 14:43.51 | Gentoochild | ahmos: if it's just the conversion, try mencoder or ffmpeg ;-) |
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| 14:44.38 | ahmos | Gentoochild thank you I will give them a try now |
| 14:44.49 | Jucato | you might have to search a bit for tutorials for those two command line utilities. I think there are Service Menus (right-click on a file in Dolphin or Konqueror) that support that |
| 14:44.53 | Jucato | from kde-apps.org |
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| 14:49.20 | ROSHA | i have this error while compiling kde 4.5 : http://pastebin.ca/1916423 |
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| 16:07.15 | Knuthy | ello! |
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| 16:15.17 | BlessJah | i'm wondering if can i turn macOS-style menubar in kde 4.x |
| 16:15.40 | BlessJah | it was possible in 3.x and most (almost everything) that google returns is connected to kde 3.x |
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| 16:19.51 | James147 | BlessJah: as far as I know something like that is in the works, but I do not know its current state |
| 16:20.03 | Lektron | hi. i'm running kde 4.4.5 on debian (sid). how do i get kinfocenter to display "Processor Information" and "Protocols"? |
| 16:20.23 | pinotree | Lektron: is the hal daemon running? |
| 16:20.55 | BlessJah | James147: just found sth about plasma-widget-xbar, but it's only temporary solution (plasma widget) |
| 16:21.05 | Lektron | pinotree: yes, it appears to be running |
| 16:21.05 | BlessJah | i'll try with this applet |
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| 16:42.22 | Lektron | pinotree: also, stopping and restarting hal makes no difference |
| 16:42.33 | pinotree | hm that'd for kde 4.5 |
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| 16:42.48 | pinotree | weird, are those the only two sections of kinfocenter you miss? |
| 16:43.06 | Lektron | pinotree: yes, everything else is there and seems to be complete |
| 16:43.18 | pinotree | hmm... |
| 16:43.54 | pinotree | what if you exit kinfocenter, run `kbuildsysoca4 --noincremental` in a console, and run it again? |
| 16:44.05 | mithnae | is back. |
| 16:44.08 | Lektron | certainly not causing me any big problems, just curious |
| 16:44.21 | Lektron | ok, i will try that |
| 16:45.05 | Lektron | as root, or user? |
| 16:45.24 | pinotree | as user |
| 16:45.27 | Lektron | k |
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| 16:48.40 | Lektron | pinotree: nope, didn't help |
| 16:48.59 | pinotree | no idea, sorry |
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| 16:49.56 | gorgonzola | hello peoples, any idea why krunner is behaving differently in sc 4.5? previously, it was blazing fast, and you could launch stuff with three leters and [enter], now it needs two [enter], or a little time.... |
| 16:49.56 | Lektron | ok, thanks. I will tinker around with it and see what i find. |
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| 18:18.37 | [newbie] | help, i can't get to place a service menu in the main context menu, appears inside the "actions" submenu |
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| 19:24.22 | natelust | is there a way to set the wallpaper via command line, dubs etc? |
| 19:25.16 | sreich | no, not yet..nobody has stepped up |
| 19:25.49 | natelust | oh ok, thank you |
| 19:26.28 | natelust | seems interesting, but so much background to get to that point..... im only experianced in programing with scientific applicaions |
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| 19:53.05 | kevin01123 | How do I get rid of the icons in the menu for kde4? |
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| 20:13.46 | loxs | is there some kde program that can schedule some program to start at given time? (something like "at" but graphical and that runs programs inside kde) |
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| 20:15.12 | spectral | how about system settings->advanced->task scheduler? :) |
| 20:15.22 | spectral | or ktimer.. |
| 20:16.31 | loxs | thanks |
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| 21:10.07 | trumee | is kde.org down? |
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| 21:10.32 | thiago_home | yes |
| 21:10.49 | thiago_home | Nokia Oslo office connection went down 15 minutes ago |
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| 21:13.58 | daedaluz | Nokia is backing KDE project? |
| 21:16.50 | loxs | If I write <<"a">> it works, but if I put there some non-ASCII char, it crashes. How do we store unicode in binary? |
| 21:16.54 | thiago_home | Nokia is a sponsor, like other companies and individuals |
| 21:17.06 | loxs | ah, sorry, wrong channel :) |
| 21:17.07 | thiago_home | loxs: where are you writing that? |
| 21:17.12 | loxs | thiago_home, erlang :) |
| 21:17.13 | thiago_home | ah, that explains |
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| 21:51.02 | egns | how does one change the default konqueror rendering engine to webkit? |
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| 21:55.16 | thiago_home | in konqueror, settings, configure konqueror, file associations |
| 21:55.23 | thiago_home | find text/html, Embedding tab |
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| 21:55.58 | egns | k, thanks. |
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| 22:19.40 | deco | how do you guys make firefox bearable in kde ? |
| 22:19.47 | deco | or any gtk app in general |
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| 22:20.09 | junkDawgie | in appearance? |
| 22:20.10 | coz_ | hey guys... I am running edubuntu which has kde libs on it.... knotify4 seems to start running after playing a game ie kreversi....is this absolutely necessary? and if I disable knotify4...what could the consequences be? |
| 22:20.51 | pinotree | knotify4 is used to do notifications |
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| 22:22.06 | coz_ | pinotree, makes sense... |
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| 22:22.15 | sreich | deco: not using it usually helps |
| 22:23.13 | deco | sreich: what abou the gimp etc.. |
| 22:23.18 | deco | s/abou/about |
| 22:24.01 | sreich | I don't know, I don't use them because I'm not artistic at all |
| 22:24.13 | sreich | but..to improve the look, you could try installing gtk-qt-engine |
| 22:24.17 | sreich | or is it qt-gtk-engine? |
| 22:24.30 | sreich | and/or changing the theme of gnome applications... |
| 22:25.02 | sreich | (gnome applications are pretty terrible at integrating with kde) |
| 22:25.14 | sreich | can change the font too, etc. |
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| 22:30.03 | deco | okay thanks sreich |
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| 22:42.53 | daedaluz | are there known problems with phonon+pulseaudio in 4.5? I get terrible stutter and skipping in KDE apps, but mplayer & vlc piped through pulse work just fine |
| 22:44.32 | Nazdravi | when I call kdialog from a shell script, I get a dcopserver error. if I run the script manually, there's no problem. any ideas? I'm using kde 3.5.10 |
| 22:45.09 | thiago_home | Nazdravi: is the environment different? |
| 22:45.18 | thiago_home | is that a script run from cron, for example? |
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| 22:45.57 | deco | daedaluz: which distro ? |
| 22:47.02 | Nazdravi | the script is not run from cron, it's called automatically from an application running in the background....essentially, it's an IDS (psad) that when detecting a network scan pops up a dialog box with info in it....when I run the popup script, it works flawlessly...when called from psad, dcopserver error. and it's kubuntu - backtrack distro |
| 22:48.20 | daedaluz | deco: Suse, KDE 4.5 pulled from OBS |
| 22:48.38 | deco | k |
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| 22:53.12 | szal | same goes for Fedora & KDE 4.4.5, tried the live CD earlier today |
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| 23:24.53 | DrSlony | Is http://www.kde.org/ down for all? |
| 23:25.36 | sreich | yes |
| 23:25.47 | deco | yup |
| 23:28.49 | thiago_home | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.kde.org |
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| 23:35.47 | DrSlony | thiago_home: ahaha thank you : |
| 23:35.49 | DrSlony | D |
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