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00:00.23 | Shirakawasuna | the slowness is present even if I use completely vanilla settings (made a new user) |
00:00.42 | Shirakawasuna | I suspect it has something to do with using the nvidia blob |
00:01.47 | bonsaikitten | try disabling all effects to see if that changes performance |
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00:09.22 | Shirakawasuna | bonsaikitten: it increases the performance for some tasks (e.g. window switching) but konqueror gets even worse |
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01:11.59 | cobra-the-joker | hey guy s... is there is any way to disable akonadi and prevent it from starting ahead from the kde applications ? |
01:15.11 | cobra-the-joker | any one her e |
01:15.44 | maazu | me |
01:16.02 | cobra-the-joker | maazu , you can solve my problem ? |
01:16.22 | maazu | i dunno |
01:16.53 | cobra-the-joker | kontact wont open ... akonadi server just keeps loading and then i have to terminate it |
01:19.21 | oneforall | I have effects off and mine is still slow too |
01:20.23 | oneforall | and konq is really bad for me too and I use it in file mode every day :( |
01:20.52 | oneforall | even with flash removed same thing |
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01:41.46 | therealsoup | what's the best way to get krunner to read my PATH when starting? |
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01:47.29 | dasKreech | therealsoup: it should do that already |
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01:52.42 | therealsoup | dasKreech, maybe i'm changing PATH in a bad place then, /etc/profile best? |
01:58.46 | maazu | g'bye |
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02:07.37 | wireddd | is there anyway to take a screen shot that shows the mouse pointer? |
02:08.47 | dasKreech | therealsoup: What is it not doing? |
02:08.58 | dasKreech | wireddd: import root window? |
02:09.17 | wireddd | how would I go about that? |
02:10.56 | wireddd | basically there is some sort of bug in kde I suppose that causes my mouse to act like the icon used for the pointer is only a few pixels across, and then repeated down in a line maybe 20 times |
02:12.11 | therealsoup | wireddd, something like scrot might work |
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02:14.47 | wireddd | nope |
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02:16.43 | therealsoup | have a camera? :p |
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02:27.49 | wireddd | http://techquirks.net/IMG_20100918_221922.jpg |
02:29.39 | wireddd | ^ that is what my mouse looks like at the moment, it does this randomly, and then for no apparent reason will return to normal and be fine for days |
02:31.19 | wireddd | nothing seems to fix it |
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02:43.42 | aseigo | wireddd: in 4.6, ksnapshot can include the mouse pointer :) |
02:43.47 | aseigo | (or is that already in 4.5? hm.) |
02:44.12 | aseigo | wireddd: looks like an x.org issue, though (likely a driver issue, more exactly) as that is what handles / draws the cursor |
02:46.28 | wireddd | I am still on 4.4.5 apparently, i'll look into the drivers |
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02:57.29 | Sho_ | aseigo, wireddd: 4.6 iirc @ cursor in ksnapshot |
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03:40.06 | jaem | I just switched from Kubuntu to Arch Linux, and their respective localprefix'es for KDE are different. Is there any established way of migrating over, short of just blindly replacing every instance of ".kde" with ".kde4" for all files in said prefix? |
03:41.44 | hdhoang1 | setting KDEHOME instructs kde to use a particular directory, however I just symlink the uncustomized one to the old one |
03:43.18 | jaem | hdhoang1: I'm not sure if we're on the same page... I mean that I left my home directory untouched when doing the distro switch, but copied .kde to .kde4 ahead of time. Now files in .kde4 contain many references to the old path. I assume this is going to cause issues. |
03:43.44 | jaem | I guess symlinking would fix that, more or less |
03:43.47 | hdhoang1 | ah true, I misunderstood |
03:44.36 | jaem | Then again, IIRC Arch uses .kde for KDE3 apps, and while I don't currently use any, if I ever do, that might end badly. |
03:45.40 | hdhoang1 | IME the configuration file in share/ doesn't explicitly include $KDEHOME, and other directories look like they are transient between sessions, so I have not noticed problem with moving (which I did before thinking of symlinking) |
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03:50.38 | jaem | Hmm... well, I noticed because Nepomuk started shoving its db back into the (initially-nonexisistent) .kde |
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03:53.40 | Crell | Hi folks. I'm having trouble getting Akonadi to talk to Google. I'm trying to follow the instructions here: http://www.my-guides.net/en/content/view/178/26/ |
03:54.07 | Crell | However, when I add the googledata and gcal connectors, they always give me a bad password error (after silently sitting there for a while). |
03:54.17 | Crell | I've verified the account name and password, but I still get the same error. |
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03:54.36 | Crell | Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? |
03:56.22 | Crell | I don't see anywhere for me to be entering something wrong, but it's still not connecting. |
04:02.14 | jaem | Crell: I'm not sure, although I had been meaning to try that out myself. |
04:02.25 | jaem | If I get a chance tonight, and you're still around, I'll try to let you know how it goes. |
04:02.29 | Crell | I had it kinda sorta working, at least for reading, under Kubuntu. |
04:02.50 | Crell | I switched to Suse tonight because Kubuntu kept sucking, and akonadi is working even less now than it did before. :-( |
04:02.50 | jaem | Where did you get the packages from? |
04:03.00 | Crell | The SuSE KDE Extras repository. |
04:03.34 | jaem | Hmm... I have very little experience with SuSe specifically. I'll let you know later if I come up with anything. |
04:03.41 | Crell | Thanks. :-) |
04:03.55 | Crell | And now I restarted akonadi, and it looks like the process didn't even start correctly. |
04:03.57 | Crell | Grrr... |
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04:04.37 | jaem | Which SC version is SuSE at these days? |
04:05.23 | Crell | 4.4.something I believe. |
04:05.31 | Crell | 11.3 was released in July. |
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04:29.26 | azmiike | huh |
04:32.21 | Crell | huh? |
04:39.31 | Crell | Grrr... Now I can't even get akonadi to start at all. |
04:39.46 | Crell | It says there are errors in the MySQL log, but it doesn't say which log. The mysql log itself has no errors. |
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04:42.22 | Crell | And akonadi is not registered at D-Bus. |
04:42.27 | Crell | I don't even know what that means or how to fix it. |
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04:43.22 | Rosbuntu | hey do u know how to make kde 1024*874 display resolution |
04:43.24 | Rosbuntu | ? |
04:43.47 | Crell | That's a weird resolution. |
04:44.03 | Crell | You'd need to muck about in your Xorg config directly, I think. |
04:44.11 | Crell | That's out of my league at this point. |
04:44.18 | Rosbuntu | :| |
04:44.27 | Rosbuntu | i mean the screen is bigger now |
04:44.31 | Rosbuntu | i want to make it smaller |
04:44.32 | Rosbuntu | :\ |
04:44.46 | Crell | That's out of my league at this point. is a normal resolution. |
04:44.55 | Rosbuntu | i see |
04:45.02 | Rosbuntu | kde is nice |
04:45.03 | Rosbuntu | ;) |
04:45.26 | Crell | Bah, sorry, had numlock off. :-) |
04:45.33 | Crell | 1024x768 is a normal resolution. |
04:45.40 | Rosbuntu | yah man |
04:45.51 | Rosbuntu | 1024x768 |
04:45.53 | Rosbuntu | want it |
04:46.14 | Crell | Go into system settings / Display. |
04:46.23 | Rosbuntu | k lemme go |
04:46.25 | Crell | It should let you select all of the resolutions that your system knows about. |
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04:48.32 | Rosbuntu | Crell: no display is there in settings |
04:48.34 | Rosbuntu | :| |
04:48.44 | mardok | Is there a GUI for formatting USB drives? |
04:48.50 | Crell | Eh? |
04:49.00 | Rosbuntu | yah man |
04:49.06 | Crell | Rosbuntu: There certainly is. I was on Kubuntu myself until earlier tonight. :-) |
04:49.21 | Rosbuntu | ok lemme try again |
04:49.24 | Crell | The System Settings app. It shows a series of icons like Appearance, Desktop, etc. |
04:49.24 | mardok | Do you know which package it happens to be or where it's located? |
04:49.28 | Crell | One of them is Display. |
04:51.24 | Rosbuntu | Crell: no display |
04:51.25 | Rosbuntu | :| |
04:51.54 | Rosbuntu | Crell: ohh i found |
04:51.57 | Rosbuntu | its on desktop |
04:52.06 | Rosbuntu | now what should i do got the display |
04:52.53 | Rosbuntu | i want to make the screen smaller |
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04:52.58 | Rosbuntu | but cant do it with display |
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05:02.33 | Katovatzschyn | KWIN crashes for me once a day or so since 4.5 & 4.5.1, is this still normal? Should I start looking for something to fix? |
05:07.25 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: my cd do not run in kde |
05:07.28 | Rosbuntu | what should i do |
05:07.53 | Crell | Rosbuntu: What do you mean you can't do it with Display? |
05:08.00 | Crell | I get a select box of screen resolutions when I do that. |
05:08.22 | Rosbuntu | Crell: where do u get it |
05:08.28 | Rosbuntu | right click on desktop? |
05:08.32 | Rosbuntu | then i got a display |
05:09.21 | Crell | Please use full english words. "u" is not a word. |
05:09.37 | Rosbuntu | ohh okk |
05:09.38 | Crell | In your K menu, there should be an option "System Settings". |
05:10.00 | Rosbuntu | Crell: i am using fedora and using kde desktop |
05:10.08 | Rosbuntu | there is no k menue |
05:10.12 | Rosbuntu | its f menue |
05:10.20 | Crell | Whatever the menu is in the bottom left, where Windows would have a Start menu. |
05:10.29 | Rosbuntu | yeah |
05:10.29 | Crell | That's the K menu, whatever the icon. :-) |
05:10.33 | Rosbuntu | then i go to system |
05:10.50 | Rosbuntu | then where should i go |
05:11.06 | Katovatzschyn | do you know how to open a terminal rosbuntu? |
05:11.14 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: no |
05:11.21 | Rosbuntu | kde is totally new |
05:11.26 | Rosbuntu | using for the first time |
05:11.34 | Crell | You don't see "System Settings" or "Configure" or something like that right in that first menu? |
05:11.40 | Katovatzschyn | press alt+f2 |
05:11.42 | Crell | The icon should be two crossed tools. |
05:11.49 | Katovatzschyn | does that open a box you can type in? |
05:11.53 | Rosbuntu | yah system settings |
05:11.54 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: yeah |
05:12.05 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: s small box |
05:12.18 | Katovatzschyn | type display and then press enter |
05:12.31 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: okk |
05:13.09 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: entered but nothing came |
05:13.32 | Rosbuntu | opened |
05:13.44 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: there is a VGA1 |
05:14.08 | Rosbuntu | Katovatzschyn: u there? |
05:14.33 | Rosbuntu | Crell: yeah two corssed tools then |
05:15.11 | Rosbuntu | u gone? |
05:15.38 | Rosbuntu | nice |
05:15.39 | Rosbuntu | :D |
05:15.58 | Crell | Multi-tasking. |
05:16.11 | Crell | Open that. That's System Settings (or whatever Red hat renamed it to). |
05:17.05 | Rosbuntu | okk |
05:17.15 | Rosbuntu | Crell: opened |
05:17.18 | Rosbuntu | now |
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05:17.32 | Crell | Look for DIsplay. The icon is a monitor. |
05:17.49 | Rosbuntu | Crell: clicked |
05:17.53 | Rosbuntu | the display |
05:17.59 | Rosbuntu | its written +vga1 |
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05:18.20 | Crell | Yep. There's a dropdown there with resolutions. |
05:18.34 | Crell | Pick one, click apply. |
05:18.47 | Crell | The screen will resize and you'll be able to confirm the selection. |
05:18.53 | Rosbuntu | no drop down |
05:18.56 | Rosbuntu | :\ |
05:19.18 | Crell | Seriously? |
05:19.21 | Crell | Mine has one. |
05:19.29 | Rosbuntu | u mean resize and rotate ur resulation? |
05:19.34 | Rosbuntu | i cant click there there are some box |
05:19.41 | Rosbuntu | but cant click then they are sealed |
05:19.56 | Crell | Sounds like Fedora's doing something weird. |
05:20.02 | Crell | Try the Fedora channel at this point. |
05:20.21 | Rosbuntu | okk |
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05:20.52 | Crell | Ugh. OK, seriously, Akonadi is a POS. |
05:21.00 | Crell | There is no reason for it to be this... mysterious. |
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05:22.27 | Rosbuntu | Crell: |
05:22.30 | Rosbuntu | okk another problem is |
05:22.40 | Rosbuntu | why i cany open my cd |
05:22.48 | Rosbuntu | it says root something... |
05:22.56 | Rosbuntu | i put my cd in my dvd rom and cant open it |
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05:24.24 | Crell | That sounds distro-specific, too. Try #fedora |
05:24.33 | Rosbuntu | okk |
05:24.40 | Crell | Every distro does permission and disk handling slightly differently. |
05:25.42 | Crell | Seriously, Akonadi has been in development for how many years and it still sucks this much? |
05:25.54 | wireddd | I want fish in my cube, someone get right on that |
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05:47.30 | diegoviola | hi |
05:47.39 | diegoviola | how do i enable 256 colors in konsole? |
05:47.54 | diegoviola | some colors work in xterm but not in konsole when i use vim |
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05:51.30 | rdav-quad | how can alt-tab swtching be enabled for all windows on all desktops, not just currently viewed desktop? |
05:52.20 | hdhoang | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1118100 suggests "set t_Co=256" in .vimrc |
05:52.36 | hdhoang | (next-to-last post) |
05:53.07 | diegoviola | hdhoang: yes, i did vim -T xterm-256color and it works |
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05:57.00 | ccculp2_ | trying to decide between mplayer and vlc for watching movie on my netbook or laptop |
05:57.28 | ccculp2_ | both are qt, right? |
05:57.44 | ccculp2_ | opinions on which is better? |
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05:59.05 | hdhoang | mplayer doesn't use qt, but I don't hold that against it |
05:59.28 | hdhoang | vlc can use vaapi to decode videos, while mplayer only has vdpau |
06:00.16 | ccculp2_ | i read that vlc does use qt now, changed from wxt something is that wrong? |
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06:00.56 | Rosbuntu | i use fedora 11 so fedora wont support me |
06:01.07 | ccculp2_ | whats teh diff betwen vaapi and vdpau? |
06:01.14 | hdhoang | I never know that vlc used anything other than qt |
06:01.43 | hdhoang | vdpau only has backend on nvidia hardware, vaapi can use vdpau and also support intel chips |
06:02.42 | ccculp2_ | noob question but is it just the GUIs that use QT / GTK ? |
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06:04.25 | ccculp2_ | so my netbook doesnt have nvidia- card -- intel---does that mean mplayer wouldn't work? |
06:05.09 | hdhoang | it would work purely on the CPU, which supposedly uses more power than decoding on GPU via vdpau/vaapi |
06:06.10 | ccculp2_ | that makes sense great to know since i'll be watching on a plane and need mucho battery life |
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06:08.18 | hdhoang | check if your GPU is supported by vaapi, and if your distro compiles vlc with vaapi support |
06:08.39 | hdhoang | (debian sid has that version uploaded a while ago) |
06:09.40 | diegoviola | hdhoang: vlc has qt and ncurses interfaces iirc |
06:10.39 | hdhoang | also, hardware decoding only supports certain kind of codecs (most likely MPEG2 and H.264) |
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06:11.00 | hdhoang | ah true |
06:12.04 | diegoviola | what is vaapi and vdpau? |
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06:12.56 | hdhoang | along with AMD's XvBA, they are API for accelerating video decoding on GPU |
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06:29.24 | RenanBS | Hi |
06:30.10 | RenanBS | how can I change the default app for a file type,? |
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06:32.58 | hdhoang | system settings -> advanced tab (only if you are below 4.5) -> file association |
06:34.53 | hdhoang | it has a blue/white/orange icon |
06:35.16 | RenanBS | hdhoang: just found it |
06:35.19 | RenanBS | thanks |
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06:39.03 | RenanBS | bye |
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06:48.07 | Tekk_ | can someone point me to a good tutorial for making plasmoids? |
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06:48.29 | Tekk_ | prefer non C++ but that's okay too |
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06:50.49 | cb400f | Tekk_: look on techbase.kde.org or ask in #plasma .. I think javascript plasmoids are preferred these days anyway .. they won't crash plasma :-) |
06:51.16 | Tekk_ | cb400f: isn't it qtscript? :P |
06:51.25 | Tekk_ | or actually js? |
06:51.42 | cb400f | I think it's JS.. but not an expert |
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06:52.05 | Tekk_ | #plasma says js |
06:52.16 | Tekk_ | they'll probably actually move to qtscript eventually :P |
06:52.17 | cb400f | ok |
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07:11.44 | swuboo | Is it normal for the down-arrow on the non-numpad arrow keys to send a carriage return as well as a cursor-down? 4.4.5, Gentoo. |
07:12.17 | swuboo | US keyboard layout, as well. |
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07:15.23 | Tekk_ | oh, cb400f |
07:15.36 | Tekk_ | apparently qtscript is just javascript with some qt extensions |
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07:16.45 | cb400f | ah |
07:17.47 | Tekk_ | cb400f: and js is definitely the way to go. who would've know a language modified specifically for this task would be better than a general one :P |
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08:57.10 | Hijacker | hi all. i have a problem with kmail: at the bottom of my inbox, there are 5 emails with no content. no subject, unknown sender, unknown date. i want to delete them, but kmail simply ignores to delete them. there is no way for me to get rid of them. how could i solve this? kde 4.5.1, kmail 1.13.5 |
08:57.56 | Hijacker | i already tried recreating my index, which fixed another issue (i wasnt able to open the topmost email, now i can), but it didn't fix deleting those no-content mails |
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09:19.31 | maksbotan | hi people |
09:19.57 | maksbotan | what application can i use to visually design .rc file for KXmlGuiWindow? |
09:20.01 | maksbotan | like qt designer |
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09:34.47 | maksbotan | where should .actions file for KAuth be placed? |
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09:37.38 | gkiagia | maksbotan: there is no xmlgui designer |
09:37.44 | maksbotan | oh |
09:37.46 | maksbotan | bad |
09:37.50 | gkiagia | maksbotan: regarding kauth, see the tutorials |
09:37.57 | maksbotan | ok |
09:38.01 | maksbotan | thanks |
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09:39.14 | maksbotan | gkiagia: can i use KAuth in python application? |
09:40.12 | gkiagia | I guess so |
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10:03.02 | lemma | gomoran: profile settings -> advanced -> enable flow control |
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10:04.05 | gomoran | lemma: Oh, Thanks. |
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10:05.48 | lemma | gomoran: no idea. I don't think I've ever looked at konsole's settings dialog before :) |
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11:36.09 | Rosbuntu | hello |
11:36.12 | Rosbuntu | anyone there? |
11:36.51 | Rosbuntu | there was a ... in my desktop where i can click on home and trash.. and somehow i have deleted it.. how to get it back? |
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11:38.27 | Rosbuntu | hello |
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11:44.38 | Rosbuntu | hi |
11:44.50 | Rosbuntu | no one here? |
11:45.07 | hdhoang | that is the Folder view applet |
11:45.31 | Rosbuntu | hdhoang: yeah how to get it back man |
11:46.11 | hdhoang | right click desktop, unlock widget (probably unnecessary), right click, add widget, look for folder view |
11:46.57 | Space_Man | Rosbuntu: there are lots of people here |
11:47.18 | Space_Man | sadly most of them don't the answer |
11:47.29 | Space_Man | or are afk |
11:47.37 | Rosbuntu | i see |
11:47.45 | Rosbuntu | so u two guys can solve me? |
11:47.47 | Rosbuntu | if u guys dont mind |
11:47.55 | Rosbuntu | im using fedora with kde |
11:48.19 | Space_Man | i'm using ubuntu and kde3 |
11:48.28 | Rosbuntu | ohh |
11:48.31 | Rosbuntu | hdhoang: |
11:48.34 | Rosbuntu | u? |
11:48.45 | Space_Man | I don't know enough about kde4 to really help |
11:48.53 | hdhoang | right click desktop, add widget, look for folder view, drag it to the desktop |
11:49.03 | Rosbuntu | hdhoang: i did that |
11:49.12 | Rosbuntu | i want to change the resolution of my screen |
11:49.17 | Rosbuntu | i cant do that |
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11:49.54 | hdhoang | go to system settings and look for an icon of a screen, I forgot the item's name |
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11:50.29 | hdhoang | inside it you should see at least one green rectangle with the current resolution |
11:50.34 | Rosbuntu | hdhoang: my computer doesnt show that |
11:50.44 | Rosbuntu | i need to do it through terminal/konsole |
11:51.51 | hdhoang | you can't run systemsettings? are you in a graphical interface or the fullscreen commandline? |
11:52.12 | Rosbuntu | no |
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11:52.56 | hdhoang | are you in the fullscreen commandline? |
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11:53.46 | Rosbuntu | hdhoang: actually |
11:54.02 | Rosbuntu | i want to make 1024x745 and i want to do it through terminal by command |
11:54.09 | Rosbuntu | i cannot do it in display |
11:54.12 | Rosbuntu | i dont know why |
11:57.11 | hdhoang | first run "xrandr -q" to see if your derised resolution is supported, if it is, run "xrandr -s <resolution>" |
11:57.16 | hdhoang | *desired |
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14:36.54 | sxe | hey guys, i noticed a strange behaviour in the plasma desktop panel/Task Manager Applet/Magic Lamp Animation. When aligned to the button of the screen (the default position) or the top you can minimize gtk application (like firefox) as every other app too but if you align the panel to the left side and minimize a gtk app the maximize/minimize animation seems to be broken. it fade away to the other side but looks really strange :) |
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14:37.06 | sxe | i'm using a nvidia twinview dualscreen setup |
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14:37.24 | sxe | i also remove all plamsa configs but nothing changed |
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15:00.31 | Timmy | How would i check to see what sound drivers i'm running? |
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15:03.34 | sithlord48 | timmy , use lshw and look at the driver used by your card (run in konsole) |
15:03.38 | The_ManU_212 | hi |
15:03.39 | The_ManU_212 | <PROTECTED> |
15:03.45 | The_ManU_212 | can it be used for kremotecontrol? |
15:04.06 | pinotree | sithlord48: he left already |
15:05.21 | sithlord48 | pinotree: oops.. |
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15:06.23 | The_ManU_212 | dont wnat to reconfigure all... |
15:06.39 | The_ManU_212 | it IS actually the same app with another package name |
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15:13.34 | vladimiroff | is there bulgarian spell ckeck in KWord? |
15:13.44 | vladimiroff | I can't find it anywhere...there are only english and hebrew |
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15:22.19 | annma | vladimiroff: do you have a bulgarian spellcheck installed? |
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15:24.24 | qknight | i wonder if there is a kde theme where the tab-widget does clearly say: "this is an active tab" all others are "inactive" |
15:24.37 | qknight | right now it is very hard for me to say, wait i post a screenshot |
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15:24.57 | annma | what theme do you use qknight |
15:25.01 | annma | default? |
15:25.03 | qknight | no |
15:26.25 | qknight | http://lastlog.de/misc/kde_tabwidget_active_inactive_issue.png |
15:26.34 | qknight | here it is, the active tab looks nearly as the none-active tab |
15:27.21 | qknight | my widget style is plastique |
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15:27.58 | pinotree | plastique is not a kde theme (style), it is a style provided with qt |
15:28.10 | qknight | oh |
15:28.13 | qknight | so what should i do? |
15:28.21 | pinotree | ask in #qt |
15:28.34 | qknight | but this is a kde widget |
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15:28.37 | qknight | konsole |
15:28.50 | annma | so use a kde style |
15:28.54 | qknight | how? |
15:28.55 | pinotree | or try to play with the color scheme |
15:29.06 | pinotree | but otherwise, there's no way we can change plastique |
15:29.07 | qknight | i did try to fix it with the color scheme but it didn't work |
15:29.15 | qknight | how would i install a kde theme? |
15:29.17 | qknight | gentoo |
15:29.29 | g3man | where are config files responsible for desktop effects? |
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15:30.16 | pinotree | g3man: $(kde4-config --localprefix)/share/config/kwinrc |
15:30.19 | qknight | is aqua a kde desktop theme? |
15:30.27 | g3man | pinotree: THANK U |
15:30.52 | VaterGarp | qknight: Are you using KDE4? |
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15:31.52 | qknight | VaterGarp: yes, i'm using kde 4 |
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15:32.13 | VaterGarp | qknight: Then Oxygen, KDE4's standard, should be fine |
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15:32.51 | qknight | VaterGarp: i now enabled oxygen |
15:32.56 | qknight | but i still have this issue |
15:33.02 | VaterGarp | Hm |
15:33.06 | qknight | it looks nearly the same |
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15:33.16 | VaterGarp | Ok, I personally think it works fairly well |
15:33.21 | VaterGarp | Not perfect, but good enough |
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15:34.28 | qknight | VaterGarp: look at this: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/images/macintosh-tabwidget.png it is very clear what is selected |
15:34.32 | qknight | VaterGarp: compare that to mine |
15:34.46 | VaterGarp | Yes |
15:34.56 | VaterGarp | What do you think of QtCurve? |
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15:35.44 | qknight | VaterGarp: look at that: http://guistyles.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/40492-1.jpg (is that qtcurve) i found it by googling |
15:35.49 | qknight | VaterGarp: i absolutely love that |
15:36.02 | qknight | but it's nowhere in my dropdown theme selector |
15:36.48 | qknight | maybe i have to install x11-themes/qtcurve-qt4 |
15:36.52 | VaterGarp | Yes, it says QtCurve in that screenshot |
15:37.10 | qknight | VaterGarp: thanks very very much |
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15:37.16 | qknight | i think i try to install this |
15:37.35 | VaterGarp | Yes, you're welcome |
15:37.43 | qknight | also thanks to all others who helped me |
15:37.51 | VaterGarp | I've got QtCurve installed here on my machine |
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15:38.01 | VaterGarp | And it looks a bit different to the one in the screenshot |
15:38.13 | VaterGarp | Might be a matter of configuration though |
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15:43.23 | qknight | VaterGarp: i've installed qtcurve but it does not have that line below the active tab |
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15:43.32 | qknight | VaterGarp: Cleanlook does have it |
15:43.36 | qknight | any idea? |
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16:48.33 | cuci_ | hi folks! Is there a way I can make a program start first at the start of a session? |
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16:51.07 | VaterGarp | cuci_: Yes, folk! |
16:51.23 | maksbotan | can u help my with sip? |
16:51.44 | VaterGarp | Go to systemsettings -> Start and end (?) |
16:51.46 | cuci_ | VaterGarp: care to elaborate? |
16:51.52 | maksbotan | what must i pass to function in python if it uses sipParseArgs(&sipParseErr, sipArgs, "iAAJ8", &a0, &a2Keep, &a2, sipType_QObject, &a3) ? |
16:51.56 | VaterGarp | Just type in Autostart on the upper right |
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16:52.44 | VaterGarp | cuci_: Did you find it? |
16:52.50 | cuci_ | VaterGarp: yup did that already |
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16:53.27 | pamcd | hi |
16:53.36 | VaterGarp | cuci_: But it's not what you wanted? |
16:53.41 | cuci_ | I just was not sure if that will ensure that it will not only be started at start, but also be the first to start |
16:53.49 | VaterGarp | Oh, I see |
16:54.05 | pamcd | is there any app that allows to download a torrent directly to another machine through the smb kioslave? |
16:54.07 | VaterGarp | What exactly do you mean by "first"? |
16:54.42 | cuci_ | yeah...it's a wifi connection program, as I am now it starts last, thus skype, firefox, and whatnot start with a no net error |
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16:55.08 | VaterGarp | Hm, I'd start it before you start KDE then |
16:55.15 | VaterGarp | Depends on your distro |
16:55.21 | Techtronic | hello , kdelibs (Rev: 1176499) doesn't compile. maybe someone can help me here ? |
16:55.28 | anarsoul | hi there, can any one comment on this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251549 |
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16:55.39 | cuci_ | blast...what if I'm not at home? how will I handle that? |
16:55.57 | thiago_home | pamcd: you can use smbmount |
16:56.06 | icwiener | Techtronic: Can you paste the output to a pastbin? |
16:56.13 | thiago_home | anarsoul: get Intel to comment on it |
16:56.34 | VaterGarp | When you're not at home? |
16:56.57 | anarsoul | thiago_home: but there's no such problem with xterm and any other kde app |
16:56.59 | Techtronic | icwiener: ok |
16:57.08 | thiago_home | anarsoul: xterm is not konsole |
16:57.14 | anarsoul | I know |
16:57.19 | thiago_home | anarsoul: other KDE applications don't have a large, transparent, monospace terminal |
16:57.20 | pamcd | thiago_home: ye, i know that, but i just am surprised that noth kget and ktorrent don't allow me to select a smb location as the destination folder of a download |
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16:57.37 | anarsoul | thiago_home: I'm not using transparency |
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16:57.45 | thiago_home | anarsoul: it's an ARGB window anyway |
16:58.12 | Slony | Help, how can I get a graphical view of files on my pc in KDE4, or any other linux software? Like so http://www.panopixel.org/drslony/images/screenshots/20080508_konqueror_file_size_view_001_kde3.png |
16:58.19 | Techtronic | icwiener: http://pastebin.ca/1944294 |
16:58.26 | anarsoul | thiago_home: ok |
16:58.34 | anarsoul | I'll ask intel guys |
16:58.50 | Sho_ | Slony: Install the Konqueror plugins package which contains that File Size View for Konqueror, or install and use FileLight |
16:58.53 | Worf | Slony: that's the file size view of konqueror of kde 3.5.x |
16:59.07 | Slony | Worf: i know it is, i made it. |
16:59.16 | Slony | Sho_: do you know the package name in gentoo? |
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16:59.22 | pamcd | which is the easiest way to use smbmount? |
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16:59.36 | Sho_ | Slony: it's been a while since I used Gentoo ... konq-plugins maybe? |
16:59.48 | anarsoul | thiago_home: just want to mention that it was ok with 4.4.x |
16:59.52 | Slony | Sho_: yes! thank you :) |
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16:59.59 | Slony | I only hchecked for "konqueror" and "plugins" |
17:00.05 | Slony | didnt think of "konq" |
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17:01.35 | icwiener | Techtronic: Maybe your nepomuc version is too old? |
17:02.05 | icwiener | nepomuc -> soprano. |
17:02.23 | Slony | Sho_: do you know of anything similar for Winfail? A friend asks. |
17:02.37 | Sho_ | Slony: sure, http://windows.kde.org/ :) |
17:02.45 | Techtronic | icwiener: hmm i have installed from kdesupport |
17:02.49 | Sho_ | beyond that, no, sorry |
17:02.56 | Sho_ | never looked for one |
17:03.00 | Slony | Sho_: hahaha yeah :D |
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17:05.25 | icwiener | Techtronic: Hmm, I have problems looking at the APIDocs. |
17:05.47 | annma | Techtronic: is it a fresh install? |
17:06.02 | annma | ah I know |
17:06.03 | Techtronic | icwiener: yes with install prefix /opt/kde4 |
17:06.32 | annma | Techtronic: you need a newer shared ontologies |
17:06.50 | Techtronic | ontologies ? what it is ? |
17:06.54 | anarsoul | thiago_home: I've used sysprof to profile it a bit |
17:07.03 | anarsoul | thiago_home: and it shows it spends much time in libQtGui |
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17:07.08 | anarsoul | not in intel driver |
17:07.27 | annma | Techtronic: svn co https://oscaf.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/oscaf/trunk/ontologies |
17:07.31 | thiago_home | anarsoul: but if you roll back to the old driver version, it's faster? |
17:07.44 | annma | build that, install it and rebuild kdesuport and kdelibs |
17:07.51 | annma | Techtronic: ^^ |
17:07.53 | anarsoul | a little bit faster, but not as fast as it was in kde 4.4.x |
17:08.09 | thiago_home | anarsoul: so 4.5 is much slower than 4.4? |
17:08.13 | anarsoul | yep |
17:08.15 | Techtronic | annma: ok |
17:08.20 | anarsoul | and only konsole |
17:08.28 | thiago_home | anarsoul: konsole has always been plagued by this problem |
17:08.37 | thiago_home | anarsoul: it works better with NVidia though |
17:08.47 | annma | however you shoudl investigate more Techtronic to see why cmake did not choke on it |
17:08.51 | anarsoul | thiago_home: I can't replace videocard in my laptop, sorry :) |
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17:09.06 | thiago_home | somewhow it triggers slow codepaths in the drivers |
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17:09.17 | thiago_home | and no one has had the time or skill to find out a way to fix that |
17:09.20 | icwiener | annma: That causes that error? |
17:09.30 | anarsoul | thiago_home: it seems it triggers fallback in Qt |
17:09.44 | thiago_home | anarsoul: so your report may be valid, but I doubt anything will happen |
17:10.06 | annma | icwiener: NAO is an ontologie I think |
17:10.06 | anarsoul | :\ |
17:10.31 | annma | icwiener: what I am sure is that trunk requires ontologies svn trunk |
17:10.40 | Sho_ | speaking from my experience as the Yakuake maintainer, Konsole has only ever been dead-slow on nVidia and that was fixed by newer drivers |
17:10.42 | icwiener | Techtronic: You can also install you Distros version of the shared-desktop-ontologies and try those. You save another built dependency that way. |
17:10.44 | annma | now it seems a check is failing |
17:10.52 | annma | icwiener: NO |
17:10.53 | anarsoul | thiago_home: there're no kde devs with intel cards? o_O |
17:11.03 | icwiener | annma: No? |
17:11.08 | annma | icwiener: KDE trunk requires ontologies trunk |
17:11.08 | icwiener | annma: Too old? |
17:11.11 | annma | yes |
17:11.14 | icwiener | Oh ... |
17:11.19 | annma | trueg sent a mail about it |
17:11.26 | Techtronic | icwiener: i have installed kde 3.5.10 to /opt/kde3 and now wana kde 4.X to /opt/kde4 :) |
17:11.35 | icwiener | Ah, missed that. :) |
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17:11.42 | annma | gotta go having dinner |
17:11.52 | Sho_ | icwiener: Actually afaik trunk requires ontologies 0.5, which I had Fedora update to |
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17:12.16 | Sho_ | unless it changed again in the last 48h |
17:12.31 | icwiener | 0.5 is in Debian as well. |
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17:12.59 | pinotree | Sho_: it didn't change |
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17:13.26 | Sho_ | well, then I've built trunk against Fedora's 0.5 plenty of times now .. |
17:13.47 | thiago_home | anarsoul: probably, but not konsole devs |
17:13.58 | thiago_home | anarsoul: or konsole devs with time and skill to debug graphics slowness |
17:14.15 | anarsoul | thiago_home: I see |
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17:15.29 | mchaikin | Anyone here know anything about pro-audio+deb(squeeze)? I would like to know what latencies are possible with a decent sound card and then if low latency audio kernel is necessary for reasonable times. |
17:16.06 | mchaikin | Haha. Wrong chan. Anyway, question still stands. |
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17:41.00 | Anarsky | hi |
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17:41.21 | Anarsky | is there a more specific chan for okular related questions or is this one ok ? |
17:41.28 | thiago_home | this is ok |
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17:41.37 | Anarsky | I'd like to know what 100% means |
17:41.48 | thiago_home | it means complete |
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17:41.52 | Anarsky | when you choose the display size for a document |
17:42.16 | Anarsky | I'd expect it to show the document at its real size |
17:42.18 | thiago_home | it means 1:1 zoom |
17:42.23 | Anarsky | yep |
17:42.25 | Anarsky | sure |
17:42.31 | Anarsky | but 1:1 what ? |
17:42.42 | thiago_home | to the original, the intended size |
17:42.46 | Anarsky | PDF don't have a concept of pixel, do they ? |
17:42.54 | thiago_home | no, they have points |
17:42.59 | Anarsky | ok |
17:43.09 | pinotree | and DPI, which are fixed to 72 |
17:43.10 | thiago_home | 72 points = 1 inch |
17:43.19 | Anarsky | bu I changed my DPI and it didn't change the size of 100% |
17:43.34 | thiago_home | DPI is not a setting |
17:43.38 | Anarsky | oh, PDF DPI is fixed at 72 |
17:43.40 | Anarsky | uhm ... |
17:43.47 | thiago_home | it's your monitor size divided by your monitor's physical size |
17:43.50 | Anarsky | what do I change in kde config center then ? |
17:43.56 | pinotree | nothing |
17:43.59 | thiago_home | change monitors or change resolution |
17:44.16 | Anarsky | % xdpyinfo | grep resol [19:39] |
17:44.17 | Anarsky | <PROTECTED> |
17:44.33 | Anarsky | the "force DPI" setting |
17:44.40 | pinotree | in the past we tried to use the monitor dpi instead of 72, but it broke with multiple monitors setups |
17:44.40 | thiago_home | which you shouldn't use |
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17:44.54 | pinotree | so it is back to 72 dpi for pdf documents |
17:44.57 | Anarsky | thiago oh ... good to know :) |
17:45.22 | Anarsky | then perhaps there should be some kind of hint near the config option |
17:45.56 | thiago_home | that it shouldn't be used? |
17:46.06 | thiago_home | we reluctantly added it because users kept asking |
17:46.10 | thiago_home | it shouldn't be there |
17:46.20 | Anarsky | ok |
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17:47.18 | Anarsky | so I still get 96x96 DPI after unsetting the option, but I guess that it's a Xorg question rather than a KDE one now |
17:47.22 | Anarsky | thanks for the help |
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17:47.51 | pinotree | dpi are applied only at startup of xorg |
17:48.24 | annma | Techtronic: did you succeed with the build? |
17:48.52 | Anarsky | pinotree: oh, ok or perhaps with some xrandr incatation too |
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17:49.58 | Techtronic | annma: Still working on It |
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17:52.23 | anarsoul | thiago_home: here's sysprof screenshots: http://fenix-fen.at.tut.by/shots/shot-3.png http://fenix-fen.at.tut.by/shots/shot-4.png |
17:52.37 | anarsoul | thiago_home: intel devs state that intel driver is not a bottleneck in this case |
17:52.57 | Anarsky | uhm ... the DPI setting has no effect on the page size at 100% ... so even at 72DPI I still get a too small page ... |
17:53.55 | Anarsky | let's restart xorg and see if something changes |
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17:58.29 | Anarsky | does the 100% size setting in okular give you a page with a similar size to the reality or not ? |
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17:58.54 | pinotree | i don't have 72dpi in my screen, so no |
18:00.00 | Anarsky | well ... I removed the "force fonts DPI" option and restarted xorg : still 96x96 reported by xdpyinfo |
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18:00.27 | Anarsky | I switched to 72DPI with xrandr |
18:00.47 | Anarsky | and restarted okular : no better luck |
18:00.58 | pinotree | what does xdpyinfo say then? |
18:01.02 | Anarsky | I'm really not convinced it's a problem related to DPI |
18:01.09 | Anarsky | pinotree: 72x72 |
18:01.43 | pinotree | not sure what xrandr does and how it affects a running session |
18:02.00 | Anarsky | and the fonts in newly opened apps (including okular) are smaller |
18:02.07 | Anarsky | so it has an effect |
18:02.20 | Anarsky | just not on the page size ... |
18:03.41 | Anarsky | strange that reducing the DPI makes fonts smaller, with as many dots and less dots per inches, the size in inches should grow, not schrink ... |
18:05.12 | Anarsky | uhm ... except if font size are specified in inches and that it tries to guess how many dots are required to paint that from the DPI ... |
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18:50.18 | strash | hello ,can someone help me- i made something and my clock is on the left side of the taskbar and i want to fix it ( i know how stupid my question looks like,but i have no other choice) |
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18:50.49 | Anarsky | strash: you have to add a spacer to the bar |
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18:51.10 | Anarsky | or if you removed the task applet as I suspect, you have to add it back |
18:51.34 | Anarsky | right click on the panel and click the cashew on the right |
18:52.08 | Anarsky | you should get a green "+" sign "add plasmoïds" or something like that |
18:52.57 | Anarsky | strash: ? |
18:53.15 | strash | Anarsky |
18:53.23 | strash | i have mixxed it up even further |
18:53.38 | strash | if i reboot without loging off -will it restore to the default ? |
18:53.44 | Anarsky | nope |
18:53.53 | strash | aaahhh |
18:54.01 | strash | is there any restore to default setting ? |
18:54.09 | strash | i lost my Blue KDE button |
18:54.15 | Anarsky | not that I know off ... |
18:54.21 | Anarsky | ok, that's easy to solve |
18:54.24 | thiago_home | remove plasma's configuration files |
18:54.42 | Anarsky | thiago_home: yeah but then he will destry his whole config |
18:54.43 | strash | Anarsky ,go ahead... |
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18:54.51 | Anarsky | including plasmoïds on the desktop |
18:54.59 | strash | what is plasmoids ? |
18:55.07 | strash | i`m not sure i have done any configurations... |
18:55.12 | Anarsky | strash: if you haven't changed anything you can go the thiago way |
18:55.27 | strash | so how to do his way ? |
18:55.41 | strash | i`m using Slackware 13.1 |
18:55.57 | Anarsky | sorry I'm on phone |
18:56.42 | thiago_home | kquitapp plasma-desktop; rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop* |
18:57.43 | strash | now what ? |
18:57.56 | thiago_home | start plasma-desktop again |
18:58.00 | strash | i have a black screen behind my xchat and xterm |
18:58.13 | strash | how to start it ? |
18:58.26 | thiago_home | run it |
18:58.27 | strash | plasma-desktop |
18:58.35 | strash | well i`m in linux for 5 whole days |
18:58.47 | thiago_home | just type the name in a terminal or in krunner |
18:58.56 | strash | ah |
18:58.58 | strash | it runes |
18:59.01 | strash | and all is fine |
18:59.03 | strash | thanks guys |
18:59.06 | strash | all seems ok |
18:59.08 | strash | :) |
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19:02.32 | strash | damn |
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19:03.01 | strash | ah , its here - i just missed it out |
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19:08.57 | Crell | Hi folks. Has anyone had success getting akonadi to talk to Google? I had it working under Kubuntu, but I recently switched to SuSE and now I keep getting inexplicable authentication errors. |
19:09.50 | annma | you mean to import a google calendar? |
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19:10.15 | Crell | Calendar and contacts, yes. |
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19:10.37 | annma | I succeed importing my Google cal |
19:10.41 | Crell | Whenever I try to add the connector, it starts off saying "Ready", then about 20 seconds later switches to "password failed". |
19:10.53 | Crell | I've verified that I'm giving it the right name/pass. |
19:11.41 | annma | did you ask in SUse channel? |
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19:11.54 | annma | you said it worked on KUbuntu |
19:12.01 | Crell | Yesterday, yes. Not really any help. |
19:12.12 | Crell | Neither was this channel last night either. I figured I'd try again with a new crowd. :-) |
19:12.13 | annma | their forum? |
19:12.29 | Crell | I've rarely found forums to be useful, honestly. |
19:12.52 | Crell | Besides, I'm not sure if this is a SuSE issue or not. I can't even find a log to check. |
19:13.49 | Crell | Is there a way I can see an actual error message, not just "invalid password" on the status display? |
19:14.23 | annma | http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/applications/427436-google-calendar-akonadi-korganizer-2.html |
19:14.30 | annma | (maybe that'll help) |
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19:18.28 | Crell | Hm. |
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19:20.00 | Crell | It's not a proxy question. There's no proxy configured. |
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19:25.17 | Crell | I'll have to look into alternate sources for packages. |
19:25.18 | Crell | sighs. |
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19:54.35 | chasmo77 | can I adjust the number of items on desktop icon right-click context menu? |
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19:57.52 | icwiener | I deactivated all debug output in kdebugdialog but my .xsession-errors file is still full of nepomuk, akonadi and friends output (3MB in around 10 minutes). Is there a way to disable all but error messages for all KDE components? |
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20:29.06 | Techtronic | I still have a problem with kdelibs (Rev: 1177114) http://pastebin.com/Y6LagAVE |
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20:38.13 | icwiener | Techtronic: You did installed kdesupport, right?? |
20:38.56 | Techtronic | i have installed kdesupport and same Rev: 1177114 |
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20:43.13 | icwiener | Techtronic: Sorry, no idea. And I have to go to bed now. But you might want to have a look at http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ ... It might make things easier on the long run. |
20:43.50 | Sho_ | icwiener: kdesrc-build now btw |
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20:43.55 | Techtronic | icwiener: ok, good night |
20:44.06 | icwiener | Sho_: Yup, but the url is still the same. :) |
20:44.23 | icwiener | Sho_: Or rather: google pointed to that one. |
20:44.35 | Sho_ | well |
20:44.44 | Sho_ | start pointing to the new url or google will keep pointing to the old |
20:44.46 | Sho_ | :) |
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20:45.22 | icwiener | :) |
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20:45.32 | icwiener | points to his bed now. :) |
20:45.35 | icwiener | Good night. |
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20:49.09 | uessebe | any way to configure the kde sound in console ? |
20:49.22 | uessebe | or to check for errors ? |
20:49.31 | uessebe | any file ' |
20:49.33 | uessebe | ? |
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21:15.11 | whoever | hi all i need some help with power managment, i am trying to set it up so that ony the monitor goes into standby afer x minuts but my box has been going to sleep and not waking back up |
21:17.04 | VaterGarp | whoever: So you don't want your computer to turn off, but just your monitor to switch off temporarily? |
21:17.31 | whoever | VaterGarp: correct |
21:18.01 | VaterGarp | Did you have a look at the power management profiles of KDE? |
21:18.38 | VaterGarp | There you should find all options needed |
21:18.40 | whoever | VaterGarp: thats what im talkin about setting> power managment |
21:19.04 | VaterGarp | So what are your preferences? |
21:19.11 | whoever | , the only theing i have checked is dim monitor after 7min |
21:20.00 | VaterGarp | For the correct profile? |
21:20.48 | whoever | whoever: i am using performance profile and thats all thats chedkd |
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21:21.45 | whoever | and i am trying to run it one last time to see if my monitor stays on or turns off like it should |
21:21.59 | VaterGarp | Is there anything checked in the "Processor and System" tab? |
21:23.17 | whoever | noting under cpu and system |
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21:23.39 | VaterGarp | Does it use your timeout setting? |
21:23.52 | VaterGarp | Or does it seem to completely ignore what your settings are? |
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21:25.01 | whoever | it seems to use the setting, althought slightly off by 1to 2min |
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21:25.59 | VaterGarp | Hm, might be an issue with powermanagement in general then |
21:26.28 | VaterGarp | I.e. KDE powermanagement not being the only one to guard your computer |
21:26.39 | VaterGarp | And two power management systems interfering |
21:28.11 | whoever | VaterGarp: i am only using the kde pm , |
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21:30.31 | VaterGarp | Well, the only thing I could imagine is something like "laptop-mode" here which might have its own rules and overrule KDE PM |
21:30.51 | whoever | VaterGarp: lettig screensaver come on to see what happens so back in a few |
21:30.54 | VaterGarp | Something you didn't explicitly manually, but something your distro installed |
21:31.09 | VaterGarp | ok |
21:33.16 | VaterGarp | "something you didn't explicitly START manually" |
21:34.08 | whoever | VaterGarp: back in afew hours .. damn inlaws |
21:36.55 | VaterGarp | Alright :D |
21:36.59 | VaterGarp | But I'll be gone then |
21:37.02 | VaterGarp | Good luck |
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22:03.51 | Lektron | hi. what database is used by basket notepads to store the user's notes, etc.? |
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22:04.43 | James147 | Lektron: nepomuk is used by basket I beleave |
22:07.15 | capn|dive | Can anyone confirm this please: when middle clicking a link in bookmarks it opens new tab but also navigates current tab to bookmark location? |
22:07.19 | capn|dive | kde 4.5.1 |
22:07.29 | capn|dive | in konqueror.. |
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22:09.30 | Lektron | James147: thanks, don't know much about nepomuk. other than export to html, is the basket data easily accessible without programming knowledge? |
22:10.19 | James147 | Lektron: sorry, dont know much about the internal working of it |
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22:19.00 | Slony | Help, I installed a facebook widget but its not showing in the list of widgets when I right-click on the desktop and select 'Add widgets', if it's incompatible with my KDE then why would it install? If compatibility is not the issue, where is it? |
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22:29.00 | gauda | Slony: did you try to log out and in again? |
22:29.48 | Slony | nope |
22:29.57 | Slony | sounds like a windows sort of thing to do. |
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23:40.13 | mbana | hi folks |
23:40.27 | mbana | how do i get 9.5 as a font size in Kate? |
23:40.31 | mbana | i can do so in emacs |
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