IRC log for #kde on 20101003

00:05.19cdahmedehok so the dpi issue in kopete seems to be from khtml, assuming the dpi is at leat 96, (the problem i have dpi of 70)
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00:08.45SianaGearzmhm i wonder what's the proper irc channel for gcc (compiler) related discussion...
00:09.11SianaGearzcause i joined #gcc but found out i'm unable to talk there - and can't see why this might be so.
00:10.46Sho_SianaGearz: the channel probably has the channel mode set that makes it so only identified users can speak
00:10.56Sho_see /msg nickserv register help
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00:16.03SianaGearzthankies
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00:19.47cdahmedehso from what i read, the solution could be to change backends for kopete... can kopete's message window backend be changed to something else, like webkit or plain text ?
00:20.02cdahmedehkeditfiletype text/html does not have an effect on kopete
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00:49.16arch_is_awesomeI don't know how I don't know this but how to I change the color of something in karbon14
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00:50.20arch_is_awesome?
00:50.27arch_is_awesomeI have looked everywhere
00:50.52arch_is_awesomeNever mind I will look in #koffice
00:51.08arch_is_awesomeUnless someone here can help
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02:12.52provI have read this http://www.kde.org/community/history/qtissue.php and this http://qt.nokia.com/products/licensing/licensing#qt-commercial-license and I am still confused. Is any one interested in explaining this, what might seem to you, outdated issue. Is QT gpl meaning I can fork it? If not then why did stallman say it was under the gnu here http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/2269/1/?
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02:17.06Jucato"under the gnu"?
02:17.55Jucato"can fork it"? yeah I guess the GPL does give that possibility (although just because you could doesn't mean you should ... and I doubt anyone would want to anyway. it's a huge codebase)
02:18.08provjucato: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_%28framework%29 says it has 3 licenses and one is the gpl.
02:18.30JucatoGPL, LGPL , and the commercial license, yeah
02:20.02provIsn't there an incompatibility between the commercial and gpl?
02:20.20Jucatojust take note that GPL isn't a "license to fork". it just gives you the freedom (and the responsibilities too).
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02:20.48Jucatoif there was, that would have come up now. so no. the commercial license allows you to pick whatever license you want, including GPL even
02:20.57Jucatobut this would be a topic for #qt not #kde :)
02:22.09provI just posted it here because I know kde uses it and I am thinking about installing kde apps based on qt. But you are right on the channel part. I was headed over there next.
02:22.20Jucatonote that the licenses here are more important for developing the apps that USE Qt, not for the development of Qt itself
02:22.39Jucatohm ... what's the problem with installing kde apps based on Qt?
02:23.06Jucatoor rather, how would the licensing affect your decision? :)
02:23.12sreichheh
02:23.18provI heard of this debate and I was wondering how it was settled by 3 licenses.
02:23.29Jucatowhat debate?
02:23.42provThe one they say was settled.
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02:23.57sreichand who is "they"?
02:24.05provqt
02:24.11sreichwhat debate are you even talking about?
02:24.11provor nokia
02:24.21Jucatowhat debate?
02:24.29sreichdo you mean the people who were against qt because of it's licensing so-called "non-free"
02:24.35sreich(which is now moot)
02:25.32Jucatowhatever "debate" you're referring to, it wasn't settled by "3 licenses". Qt had a dual licensing scheme long ago: commercial  and GPL.
02:25.57Jucatoit was GPL'ed a long long long time ago. so there isn't any debate really. the 3rd license (LGPL) is more recent
02:26.09provsreich: Then what was the problem about "non-free" some time back?
02:26.25provor jucato whoever wants to answer.
02:26.46Jucatoum ... because Qt didn't have a GPL option in before *2000* :)
02:27.07Jucatoand for Stallman, pretty much anything not under GPL is non-free (although there are other licenses he considers ...)
02:27.33Jucatobut that was like, 10 years ago, when Qt was still version 1.x
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02:33.33provjucato: I think I see where I was getting confused. Thank you for clarifying.
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02:39.53clarkdais there a kaddressbook/kmail specific channel?
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02:46.03Jucatoclarkda: #kontact
02:47.43dasKreechI thought GPL was a licence to fork :)
02:49.02Jucatoit's a license to use, redistribute, and modify. "fork" is usually a last resort. but that's just imho :)
02:49.23Jucatoif by "fork" you simply mean "modify and redistribute those modifications", then yes it is
02:49.49Jucatothough "fork" nowadays have some negative connotations (unless of course you're talking about processes or babies)
02:52.42sreichforks and babies?
02:53.00Jucatoare you not a geek? O.o
02:53.11Jucatodo you not read planetkde? O.o
02:53.20sreichof course I am and do
02:54.29Jucatoheh :)
02:54.52Jucatoanyway, most of the time, when devs talk about having a new born, they call it a "fork" :)
02:55.08sreichoh
02:55.21sreichthe only thing I think of is "forking" vs. "spooning"
02:55.33Jucatolol
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04:24.45QuantumI just did a full reinstall of Debian.  Does anyone know where Konqi stores usernames/passwords for websites?
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04:40.18Donuthello
04:41.15DonutI just upgraded my slackware and when i try to start kde i get : "ksmserver: error while loading shared libraries: libattica.so.0:"
04:43.26sreichthen it's a bad upgrade, likely
04:43.45DonutQQ
04:43.56Donutso i need to re-install kde ?
04:44.13sreichI don't know, ask #slackware
04:46.36Donutoke
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09:23.26jophishHi al!
09:23.29jophishand all
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09:26.30flaviusHi. How to setup an icon launcher such that it will start the given GUI application into a given activity?
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09:28.46mebusHallo! How can I manage Konqueror's SSL certificates in KDE4?
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09:38.21thiago_homemebus: there's no UI
09:39.00thiago_homeas of trunk now (so in 4.6), the SSL store is your system's
09:39.11thiago_homeso if your distro provides you with a management feature, use it
09:39.24mebusthiago_home: how du I do it without UI ?
09:39.50thiago_homewhat do you want to do?
09:40.11mebusthiago_home: I want to add a X.509 certificate for HTTP Client Authentication.
09:40.26thiago_homeyou want to add a new CA?
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09:40.44mebusthiago_home: yes.
09:41.34thiago_homeappend it to $(kde4-config --prefix)/share/apps/kssl/ca-bundle.crt
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09:42.12mebusthiago_home: it's a pem or p12 file.
09:42.26mebus$kde4-config
09:42.32thiago_homepem
09:43.07mebusthiago_home: How do I append it to the config?
09:43.27mebusok ^^ vim helps
09:44.45mebusthiago_home: I also got a private key for the server. Does it go in there too ?
09:45.10thiago_homeCAs don't have private keys
09:46.10thiago_homewell, not private keys you have access to
09:46.11mebusthiago_home: Yes, but I need my private cert for the HTTPS Client (two-way) Authentication.
09:46.26thiago_homethat's not a CA
09:46.35thiago_homeI asked you if you were adding a new CA, you said yes
09:46.48mebusyes, but I also need the key.
09:46.52thiago_homeno, you don't
09:47.11thiago_homeyou don't get to get the CA key
09:47.22thiago_homeso one of two options: you got something you don't need, or you don't have a CA certificate
09:47.26thiago_homewhich one is it?
09:47.36thiago_homedo you know what a CA certificate is?
09:48.06mebusthiago_home: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_authentication
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09:48.13thiago_homeok
09:48.16thiago_homeKonq doesn't support that
09:48.27mebusno good.
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11:27.39QuantumAnyone here?
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11:28.29bonsaikittenno ;)
11:29.02QuantumJust reinstalled K, and can't find a plasmoid to suspend?
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11:33.05QuantumOh I forgot... no one's here.
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11:34.05cb400fthe battery plasmoid is what you want
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11:34.21cb400for the kickoff launcher menu
11:35.21QuantumI have the Battery Monior, but resuming Sleep fails.
11:35.39QuantumUsed to have one with an electric plug, and it worked fine.
11:35.41cb400fand you think that's a problem with the widget?
11:36.02QuantumThe old one worked.
11:36.27QuantumYou don't think the problem is with the widget?
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11:37.05cb400fof course not.. the widgets use solid.. which uses hal.. which relies on a bunch of kernel stuff and other tools and so forth
11:37.21cb400fare you coming from kde3 or something?
11:37.35QuantumSo Sleep is just busted and I can't use it?
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11:38.18QuantumNo, Using Debian Testing, and did rolling upgrade for 2 years.  Finally reinstalled when K fell to pieces.
11:38.28cb400fyou need to troubleshoot it on a lower level at least.. you should prolly talk to your distro
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11:38.58cb400fbut you don't remember what you were using... maybe you were using kpowersave or something funky in kde4?
11:39.22QuantumI don't remember.  Didn't think I'd have to.
11:40.47QuantumAlrighty then, where does Konqi store saved usernames and passwords?
11:40.57cb400fin kwallet
11:41.03QuantumNot there.
11:41.25QuantumMail passwords & forms are there
11:41.42Quantum... but not Konqi UN/PW.
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11:42.17Quantum... at least they're not in .kde/share/apps/kwallet
11:43.54Quantum... not in any Konqi files either.
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11:54.12wulfgar|laptophi, in gnome I was able to move applications from one virtual desktop to another using ctrl+alt+shift+left/right .. is this possible in KDE ?
11:55.15jozohi all, when I open pdf with lot of photos in okular, Xorg memory consumption jumps to about 800MB, when ocular os closed Xorg mem usage is the same
11:55.23jozois this a known bug ?
11:55.31jozohow can I avoid this ?
11:55.49jozoI'm using 64 bit ubuntu 10.04 with nvidia binary drivers
11:58.21cb400fwulfgar|laptop: you can set shortcuts for it in systemsettings -> keyboard and mouse -> global shortcuts -> select kwin in combobox at the top .... but there are no defaults assigned for those actions
11:59.17wulfgar|laptopah ha, thanks cb400f
11:59.19cb400fare you sure the mem isn't just cached?
11:59.41cb400fjozo: ^
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12:42.09_spm_DragetIs there a way to reset the screen-lock timer? When using x11vnc and moving the mouse, the screen unlocks but the timer is not reset, causing kde to lockthe screen again two seconds later. Maybe I can reset the timer manusally as root?
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13:25.58penguin42Hi
13:26.33penguin42I'm normally a Gnome user and I thought I'd give KDE 4.5.x a go (Ubuntu Maverick) - the one thing I've not been able to find an equivalent so far is how to open a luks partition from the GUI? Is there a way?
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13:52.34ericthehaxIn kde sc 4.* how would one specify the panel height in pixels instead of dragging? (new to kde)
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13:54.35_spm_Dragetpenguin42: It depends on the packages Ubuntu has, but usually it should detect new removable media with a plasmoid in the taskbar called 'device notification' or something similar (I have it in german)
13:54.52penguin42_spm_Draget: It's not removable, it's a partition on the main drive
13:55.07_spm_DragetAnd if a luks-device is connected, it shows a removable luks device and offers you to mount it via a graphical passwordprompt
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13:55.30_spm_Dragetericthehax: I think this is sadly no longer possible via the gui.
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13:55.43_spm_Dragetpenguin42: Hmm, then I think you need a bit of fiddeling.
13:56.28ericthehaxokay: what's the rules on the language level here? cause i gotta know how  much I have to censor my next statement
13:56.56penguin42hands ericthehax the #, !, * and ???
13:56.58_spm_Dragetpenguin42: Since 98% of them are idling here anyways... and I do not really care.
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13:57.10_spm_DragetErm, I mean ericthehax
13:57.16penguin42_spm_Draget: Hmm pity, the dnome drive mount applet does it nicely
13:57.50_spm_Dragetpenguin42: go through the plasmoids. I could imagine there is an instant-mount plasmoid
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13:59.41penguin42_spm_Draget: Can't see one unfortunately
14:00.56ericthehaxWho, the **** would take out an accurate way to set something like that? I mean, if you edit a cfg, it can't ****ing take effect immediately unless it were constantly checking the ****ing cfg for ****ing changes like that.
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14:01.59pinotreeor just edit the config when the program using that config is not actually running?
14:02.16ericthehaxyou mean kde?
14:02.25ericthehaxlol
14:02.27pinotreejust the plasma-desktopshell
14:02.31ericthehaxoh
14:02.33pinotree*plasma-desktop
14:02.40_spm_Dragetericthehax: As much as I would also prefer to have an accurate way of entering it, there is an idea behind it. The idea to get away from relative mesurements like pixels and more independant of the screenresolution.
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14:06.31QuantumJust reinstalled my OS and need to transfer kwallet from old to new.  I copied over the kwl file to my new home, but for some reason the daemon has wiped all 275 of my website logins and started over.  Any idea why?
14:07.01ericthehaxI see what they did there, but it would still be nice to have some way of numerically setting the height in pixels or centimeters or inches or something without having to go into the cfg file, search for the setting, and restart the program.
14:11.08James147Quantum: I would suggest trying to copy it over while kde isnt running, so kwallet can load the old one
14:11.20James147^^ or at elast while kwallet isent running
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14:11.44QuantumThx.
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14:21.54QuantumJames147: I copied over the kwl file with all kwallet daemons off, and now at least it doesn't zero out the file.  But Konqi still never knows my UN:PW.
14:22.53James147Quantum: I take it you restarted the deamon and konqi?
14:24.18QuantumEh, I opened a new Konqi window (with 8 others open) and went to a new site that requires login.
14:24.39James147I would suggest closing them all
14:24.45QuantumThis started the daemon, and when I put in my UN:PW Kwallet asked for my passowrd.
14:25.01QuantumOK, I'll log out/in.
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14:37.26voltyhi, is it possible to force khtml part to use user defined stylesheet (like in konqueror) ?
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14:57.26cdahmedehhello, i'm trying to find a way to make a kopete chat window popup automatically when a specific contact signs on (a bit like pidgin buddy pounces), is it possible ?
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15:00.30Sho_cdahmedeh: I think there's a plugin for that, check out the plugin dialog
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15:01.23Nece228hi, which is the best kde distribution?
15:01.43Sho_that's impossible to answer
15:01.49Sho_it depends on your tastes, interests, etc.
15:01.56Nece228i neeed speed
15:01.59Nece228performance
15:02.03annmaNece228: try some LiveCDs to see what you like
15:02.10cdahmedehif you have good linux experience, arch linux is good
15:02.45cdahmedehbut if you want an easy to setup distro, mandriva is pretty good distro, but i'm not sure about it's future
15:02.49voltykubuntu vs arch linux regarding kde support ? i mean better, much better, excellent ?
15:02.57Nece228i already tried, didnt see anything interesting. i think i should install it on hdd, update it, install drivers and then would see the real result
15:03.25Nece228but thats too much hassle
15:03.31annmanothing interesting?
15:03.37annmawhat are you looking for then
15:03.39Nece228yeah
15:03.46Nece228looking for performance
15:04.10voltyNece228: then you should look arround for a power workstation maybe
15:04.21annmawhat's your machine specs Nece228
15:04.35annmaand what do you call performance
15:04.46Nece228amd athlon II 250 x2 3.0ghz, 2gb ram, geforce 9500gt, 120 gb hdd
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15:05.11annmaand what's the prupose of the machine
15:05.14annmapurpose
15:05.18voltythat's quite nice & fast
15:05.27voltyfor the purpose kde doesn't matter
15:05.41Nece228yeah i know its fast
15:05.44annmahe is looking for "performance"
15:05.52annmaI am wondering what does that mean
15:05.54voltyannma:  :)
15:06.08Nece228but by performance i mean fast startup and stuff like that
15:06.17cdahmedehSho_: can't find that plugin, like is there any scripts or something ? i know there custom notification support, maybe some command ?
15:06.27annmaso what's the purpose of the machine Nece228
15:06.32Nece228i saw kubuntu starts up kde in 5 seconds
15:06.32annmayou boot often?
15:06.39Nece228while on my current arch linux it takes 13 seconds
15:06.43annmaboots every few weeks
15:07.04annmaso a few seconds do not matter
15:07.04Nece228well i kinda switch often to windows, because of autodata program
15:07.22voltyNece228: you sure about booting time, maybe kubuntu is preloading
15:07.38annmawhat's "often" Nece228
15:07.50Nece228does that matter much?
15:08.01Nece228volty: yes im sure
15:08.02voltyNece228: u should benchmark total time from switching on the machine & starting kde
15:08.29Nece228volty: i tried kubuntu 10.04, and kde start much faster on kubuntu than on my current arch linux
15:08.31annmawell if you boot several times a day maybe you should change the way youwork
15:08.53annmaso what was not performant on KUbuntu Nece228
15:08.59Nece228you see, its always nice to have a fast booting os
15:09.06voltyNece228: you should ask that question in #archlinux
15:09.46Nece228well im not sure if kubuntu has something similair to aur, and also the apt-get system is much slower than pacman
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15:11.15voltyNece228: you install & deinstall a lot of apps ?
15:11.25Nece228sure
15:11.35Nece228i install updates very often
15:12.03Nece228in kubuntu 200mb update has taken about 7 mins, while on arch 200mb update takes 1-2 minutes
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15:13.14Tekk_I'm using the latest kde and kopete, how do I change my avatar?
15:13.32Tekk_I searched for it but the answers I found don't seem to apply anymore
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15:21.03PhilRodTekk_: settings->configure -> modify identity?
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15:21.11PhilRod(this is 4.4 here, so it might be out of date)
15:21.53Tekk_ah, that's it
15:22.04Tekk_I come from pidgin so I'm used to modifying by account XD
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15:47.13muzerhow can I disable kwin compositing from the command-line?
15:47.39Sho_muzer: one sec, I'll look it up
15:48.10Sho_muzer: qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin toggleCompositing
15:48.28muzerthanks
15:48.33muzerhmm
15:48.40muzerthat toggles it... can I ensure it's disabled?
15:49.07Sho_muzer: check the current state with qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin compositingActive
15:49.08James147muzer: create a script to check its status and run the above only if its enabled
15:49.15muzerah, yes
15:49.16muzerthanks
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15:49.36Sho_muzer: out of curiosity, whatcha up to?
15:49.50muzermaking a quick script to run Worms Armageddon
15:49.56muzerit performs poorly if compositing is enabled
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15:50.27muzerjust for my own use, so I won't bother checking for compiz or anything... if I was releasing it, I would do that as well
15:50.27Sho_muzer: kubuntu?
15:50.32muzerno, Gentoo
15:51.07Sho_muzer: because kwin has a config file option to automatically unredirect fullscreen windows (i.e. not composite them), which is enabled by default in kde, but disabled in kubuntu
15:51.12Sho_but maybe your worms isn't fullscreen i guess
15:51.24muzerno, it's not
15:51.25muzerwell
15:51.32muzerit's fullscreen only on Windows
15:51.47muzerbut on Linux, I can play it in a window - one of the few advantages of emulating it, lol
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15:52.00muzerwell, I say emulating.... wine isn't really an emulator
15:55.30muzerhmm, odd
15:56.15muzerah, my bad, I was using exec, lol
15:56.20muzerfully-working now, thanks a lot :D
15:57.15James147Sho_: what config file is that option in?
15:57.36Sho_James147: kwinrc
16:00.33James147Sho_: Thank you :)
16:02.03ericthehaxwhere would i find the config for the panels?
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16:03.26ericthehax...
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16:04.08ericthehaxi need to change the width (the panel is vertical) of a panel precisely in pixels. Google is not helping
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16:15.45Sho_ericthehax: $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc, where $KDEHOME is ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 depending on your distro
16:15.58sebasericthehax: why *need*? I'd be interested in the exact use case?
16:16.12Sho_tbh, I edit that file to set my panel size in pixels sometimes, too
16:16.31sebasI'd be interested in your use-case, too
16:16.35Sho_just because I'm anal about it, i guess
16:16.50sebasok, thought so much (no offense intended :))
16:16.50Sho_i know i like what the icon scaling produces at at 33 px
16:16.57Sho_so i set it to that
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16:17.20sebasSho_: I solved the problem with a 170dpi display ;)
16:17.39Sho_sebas: it's an approach worth thinking about ;)
16:17.40sebasAlso helps with QSvg limitations sometimes :P
16:17.54sebasthe result is definitely elegant :)
16:18.04Sho_sebas: opensuse had a patch once that shows the pixel value as you drag the configurator
16:18.16Sho_... though I'd not vote for applying it upstream
16:18.16sebassounds like beineri's work
16:18.25sebasyeh, /me neither
16:18.34Sho_does seem a little silly to show the px
16:18.41sebasUnless someone comes up with a valid use-case (haven't seen one yet)
16:18.56sebasyes, it triggers anal behaviour in some people
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16:19.01Sho_and for the anal among us, going to the config file is an option ;)
16:19.11sebaslike fiddling around to set it as close as possible to pi or something like that ;)
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16:23.25sebasgrmblz
16:23.35sebasI think I've tested all possible combos of ac / battery now
16:23.46sebasboth plugged in
16:23.51sebasac in, battery out
16:23.55sebasac out, battery in
16:24.05sebasac out, battery out (guess what just happened :D)
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16:29.50sreichsebas: lol, didn't think before you did it? ;)
16:30.48Sho_he valiantly took one for the team ;)
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16:50.08quhanhi, is there someone know whats happen of the knetworkmanager?  I cant click the wireless icon
16:50.29quhanmy kde version is 4.4.5
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17:00.49sebassreich: well ... I had like 4 hours of sleep after 18 hours of hacking and then another 7 hours of hacking ... so that kind of stuff just happens at some point :)
17:01.04sebasi.e.: yes, I didn't actually think before I took out the battery
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17:01.17sebassomeone has to make others laugh here :>
17:01.18sreichsebas: pft, at least you have time to hack ;)
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17:01.59sreichsebas: and stop it. you're making me look bad - it's my job to do stupid-things-that-nobody-else-does ;)
17:02.47sebassreich: well, I've taken this weekend off from fixing my house which has to be done end of Oct ... so I *made* time rather than "had" it
17:03.01sreichsebas: :D
17:03.34sebasKDE-friendly job helps, of course
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17:04.57sreichsebas: indeed
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20:08.58petteygI use some plasmoids that get data from internet (YaWP), and they always lose connectivity after the system has been on for several hours. I have to exit and restart KDE to get them to reconnect. All other internet applications have no issues.
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20:32.45smallfoot-what is the default location where the crypto keys are stored?
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20:41.14Casterklipper used to have this ctrl+alt+v shortcut
20:41.26Casterwhere is it :(
20:43.19cdahmedehit's official, i switched to kde !
20:44.51cdahmedehfrom xfce! i'm very impressed by the integration of the different applications
20:45.24cdahmedehand the feed reader is really fast and well made (like it refreshes 200+ feeds in seconds, i'm amazed)
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20:58.53TheOnei need to add some symbols to my controlbar via a script file
21:00.23picobytehi. I use kaddressbook version 4.4.6 and experience the following bug: when a contact has his birthday on one of the following three days, his age is allready incremented by one year, althoug his birthday is still in the future. this is always reproducible for me. does anyone else experience this behaviour?
21:00.56TheOnehow can i do that?
21:01.25TheOneis there a commandline programm to do that or something similar?
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21:02.53TheOneif i add the symbols directly to the file i have to enter the correct positions values which are not everywhere the same they depend e.g. on the screen width
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21:09.56lelamalHi all, I moved from Kubuntu to Debian. On 1 of the old virtual desktops, I had 1 sticky note (knotes) that I'd like to retrieve. I have a full backup of my old home directory. Does anyone know where are these notes saved, please?
21:12.39cdahmedehlelamal: did you look in the .kde4 folder in your home ?
21:12.45TheOnelelamal: .notes
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21:13.05TheOnecan anyone help with my question?
21:13.35lelamalcdahmedeh: yes, I looked in .kde/share/apps/knotes/, but found these are those in Kontact
21:14.03TheOnelelamal: try ~/.notes
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21:14.48lelamalTheOne: there's no folder by that name
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21:26.26TheOnelelamal: you're right, i found mine in the file ~/.kde/share/apps/knotes/notes.ics
21:27.22lelamalTheOne: yeah, I followed a thread on KDE forum where I learnt that
21:27.27lelamalwell, thanks anyway
21:28.35TheOneback to my question, does anybody know how i can add symbols (.desktop files) to the control bar via a shell script???
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21:35.00windowshasyouhope kde 4.5.2 fixes some of the issues I've been having. Guess I'll find out in a few hours when its done building.
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21:43.39TheOneok, forget it (maybe wrong question at the wrong time)
21:43.40TheOnebye
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21:44.59joshbhi, i'm hunting all over to do a simple thing: change background wall paper, plzzzz ?
21:45.42James147joshb: right click the desktop > desktop settings
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21:45.53James147joshb: or drag an image to the desktop
21:46.42joshbgreat! thanks
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22:06.37tejingI'm on gentoo, kde 4.4.5, and though I don't use kde myself (I use straight compiz/emerald), anyone else who uses my computer does, and whenever they log in, the mixer seems to get the 'IEC958 optical raw' set to unmuted status on my audigy 2, which causes no sound to come out of my speakers... kmix has 'restore volumes on login' unchecked, but aside from that I'm really not sure where to look to see what's going wrong.
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22:58.00Freddy2oops, it's too late.. i'll ask again tomorrow :)
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23:29.01wathekhi everybody
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23:29.26wathekis it possible to enable multitouch based on TUIO ?
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23:38.47thiago_homewathek: no
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23:39.43wathekthiago_home, there's no Desktop Environment that works with TUIO ?
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23:39.57thiago_homewell, there's no KDE that works with TUIO
23:40.01thiago_homeI don't care about others
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