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00:39.51 | aljosa | anybody knows howto enable search in klipper? i used to be able to activate it with ctrl+alt+v and then just started typing to filter content |
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01:25.10 | Kubuntu-KDE | no one can help me in this issue? |
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02:19.33 | disruptor | does anyone know what the default network manager for fedora 14 KDE is ? i am assuming its knetworkmanger but i cant find an about with version number or anything .... |
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02:20.41 | disruptor | it uses KDE 4.5.2 |
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02:29.59 | leo_rockway | how can I make plasma-desktop start with --graphicssystem raster by default? |
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04:20.29 | siliconchaos | Hello, I have a few questions on dolphin development. If this is not the correct place for these type of questions I apologize and would appreciate it if you could point me in the right direction. |
04:22.33 | ichbinder | siliconchaos: http://www.kde.org/applications/system/dolphin/ |
04:22.58 | ichbinder | siliconchaos: they mention this channel, so I guess you are right here. (I don't know anything about it, though... sorry) |
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04:25.17 | siliconchaos | ichbinder: I was surprised to see that #kde was mentioned in "contact the authors". anyway, thanks for the response. I'll keep researching. |
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05:11.51 | AndrewL | G'day, I'm guessing there is no online KDE source code browser? |
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05:31.52 | astropirate | How do i enable 3d desktop cube like under compiz on Gnome. I'm running Ubuntu lucid |
05:33.16 | AndrewL | dunno about ubuntu, but on fedora its under system settings, desktop effects, all effects, Desktop cube I think |
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07:32.27 | Gecko | hi there. I'm running kde 4.5.1, the kubuntu 10.10 default version, and since I upgraded to this version kde has switched around which monitor is the primary one and which one is the secondary one. I'm having an external monitor connected to my laptop, and use that as the primary one. I can set the right monitor to be primary with xrandr --output HDMI1 --primary, but my question is where kde gets it's idea of which monitor to make primary and if it's configurable? |
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07:37.06 | jorn | heyho, my korganizer systray icon is empty, how can i fix this? |
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07:38.26 | jorn | (so it's an empty slot showing up in the systray for korganizer reminder daemon) |
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08:10.51 | Oleg_ | konqueror vs. firefox - which web browser is better than the other one? |
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08:12.31 | Worf | define "better" |
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08:12.48 | Candle | Oleg_: Make up your own mind. Personally, I prefer Opera. |
08:13.35 | Oleg_ | Candle: Opera running in kde? |
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08:14.17 | Candle | Yes, Since I'm using Debian, download the .deb from their site, and use it. |
08:14.20 | Worf | i feel attracted by chromium ... |
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08:20.32 | jorn | heyho, my korganizer systray icon is empty, how can i fix this? |
08:20.33 | Mamarok | try rekonq, or use the webkit mode in Konqueror |
08:20.39 | jorn | (so it's an empty slot showing up in the systray for korganizer reminder daemon) |
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08:21.34 | Mamarok | jorn: which KDE, distribution? |
08:21.54 | jorn | 4.5.1 |
08:22.07 | jorn | as in kubuntu 10.10 |
08:22.38 | Mamarok | jorn: do you have the oxygen-icon-theme-complete package installed? |
08:22.50 | jorn | Mamarok: checking... |
08:23.29 | jorn | now i do |
08:23.51 | jorn | relogin? |
08:24.07 | Mamarok | yes, I think so |
08:24.09 | jorn | the strange thing is clicking on the empty spot wont show korganizer |
08:24.14 | jorn | brb |
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08:26.30 | jorn | Mamarok: still an empty slot in the systray |
08:26.44 | Mamarok | jorn: are you sure it is for korganizer? |
08:26.57 | jorn | when i click on it it says: |
08:27.11 | jorn | KOrganizer Reminder Daemon |
08:27.18 | jorn | and shows me a menu |
08:27.24 | jorn | (left click that was) |
08:27.27 | Mamarok | hm, it shows perfectly fine here |
08:27.28 | jorn | right click: nothing |
08:27.47 | jorn | in earlier versions when I clicked on the korganizer icon it started korganizer |
08:27.48 | Mamarok | try going to the settings and chenge the entry for korganizer from Auto to Always visible,maybe that helps |
08:27.51 | Mamarok | change* |
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08:28.19 | jorn | didn#t |
08:28.25 | jorn | #=' |
08:28.41 | jorn | but even in the settings it doesn't say korganizer |
08:28.53 | Mamarok | hm, then I don't know, it shows fine here. Maybe an upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 could help, see http://kubuntu.org/news/ |
08:28.55 | jorn | (I guess we're talking about the systray settings) |
08:29.27 | Mamarok | yes, we are, it shows here correctly. But if you haven't started kontact at all, it might simply not be running |
08:30.13 | jorn | hmm, I have bad experiences with kontact... |
08:30.18 | jorn | but will try |
08:30.37 | jorn | maybe I'll even use the 4.5.2 |
08:30.46 | jorn | thanks for your help though |
08:31.34 | jorn | (in systray settings it shows up as "org.kde.StatusNotifierItem-7062-1/StatusNotifierItem" |
08:31.57 | Mamarok | whut? |
08:32.02 | jorn | ) |
08:32.08 | jorn | the korganizer icon ;) |
08:32.09 | Mamarok | that sounds really strange, in the entries section? |
08:32.36 | jorn | yupp, that's the "Item" name |
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08:36.34 | terietor | is it true that plasma will be been rewrite with opengl?\ |
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08:37.29 | Mamarok | terietor: where did you get that from? |
08:37.58 | terietor | Mamarok: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/10/plasma-in-18-24-months.html |
08:38.16 | terietor | Mamarok: i don't know if this is true |
08:38.26 | Mamarok | well, if aseigo says so it is |
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08:40.26 | jorn | Mamarok: seems that deleting the strangely named icon from the systray settings helped (but need to relogin to check) |
08:40.26 | jorn | (could've been some updating problem?) |
08:40.26 | Mamarok | jorn: I don't know |
08:40.26 | jorn | brb |
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08:48.16 | jorn | didn't help :-/ |
08:48.26 | jorn | starting kontact doesn't either |
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08:49.26 | terietor | i cannot activate some kde desktop effects |
08:49.34 | terietor | i receive the following error |
08:49.52 | terietor | the following effects could not be activated |
08:50.20 | terietor | and my battery widget doesn't work |
08:50.25 | terietor | can u help me?\ |
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09:01.13 | CuBeW0rK | hi all |
09:01.27 | CuBeW0rK | is it possible to somehow visually mark files in KDE4 ? |
09:01.27 | jorn | hi you |
09:01.44 | jorn | you mean as in macosx? |
09:01.57 | CuBeW0rK | dunno, never used macosx :D |
09:02.32 | CuBeW0rK | I have a bunch of files in a directory, and I'd like to mark those that I find interesting for a reason |
09:02.42 | CuBeW0rK | lots of documents to read |
09:02.56 | terietor | CuBeW0rK: |
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09:05.24 | jorn | CuBeW0rK: well, thought this would be possible with tagging but can't find it atm... |
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09:05.54 | jorn | workaround: create a subfolder, select all the files you like and link them to that folder |
09:06.14 | terietor | can u help with my laptop? |
09:06.18 | jorn | (ctrl+shift+drag'n'drop) |
09:06.24 | terietor | some effects doesn't activate |
09:06.34 | terietor | i have gentoo amd64 |
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09:06.50 | jorn | terietor: yupp, i read that, but was too lazy to ask for the graphics card you have |
09:07.18 | CuBeW0rK | jorn, well, that's a pretty ugly workaround... for that case, I could even move those documents there |
09:07.33 | CuBeW0rK | jorn, do you use nepomuk? |
09:07.46 | jorn | CuBeW0rK: i know, just can't find the feature I once saw used by a guy with kde 4.5 |
09:07.48 | CuBeW0rK | what are the system reqs? this is a pretty old pc |
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09:08.02 | terietor | jorn: i have nvidia 9800 |
09:08.13 | terietor | soz |
09:08.24 | terietor | i confused with my other pc |
09:08.33 | jorn | hah |
09:08.34 | jorn | ;) |
09:08.38 | jorn | nice one |
09:09.09 | jorn | nvidia 9800 should be fine |
09:09.09 | terietor | jorn: 330 |
09:09.24 | terietor | nvidia 330m |
09:09.35 | terietor | jorn: i have toshiba qosmio f60 |
09:09.53 | terietor | i have abaddoned my desktop |
09:09.55 | jorn | k, now i'm confused |
09:10.02 | terietor | i have 2 machines |
09:10.18 | terietor | but i only use toshiba qosmio f60 with nvidia 330m |
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09:16.44 | CuBeW0rK | jorn, ok, I've found a way... though it's not tagging VISUALLY, but at least I can tag files |
09:16.53 | CuBeW0rK | this raises another question |
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09:19.49 | CuBeW0rK | If I'll move/copy these files from one pc to other |
09:20.04 | CuBeW0rK | will they retain their tags and ratings? |
09:20.19 | jorn | CuBeW0rK: don't think so |
09:20.48 | jorn | again with softlinking them to a subfolder you'd preserve that info |
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09:21.02 | jorn | (need so use rsync for copying though) |
09:21.11 | jorn | gtg, sorry |
09:23.51 | paleywiener | hi, i use kde 3.5/konqueror 3.5. I wanted to add a button to toggle "Disable Previews" on the toolbar-meny. how do i do this? |
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09:27.22 | terietor | do u know how to fix it? |
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09:40.32 | paleywiener | hi, i use kde 3.5 is there a way to add a toggle button to the main toolbar to toggle image-preview |
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09:42.31 | paleywiener | ?list |
09:42.37 | paleywiener | ? |
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09:49.10 | alextai | Is there any kde microblogging application that supports facebook? |
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09:56.41 | paleywiener | hello, I use KDE 3.5/Konqueror 3.5; I wanted to know how i could add a toggle image-preview button to konq's main toolbar? Also, is there a way to click on a dir and invoke a xterm on it? I got part of this working by creating a xyz.desktop file (i can click on a image file and open a xterm in the dir that contains the image)Please help, thank you. |
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10:01.41 | tools | hi all.. how can I change the fontsize of kde-apps? |
10:01.43 | tools | erm |
10:01.48 | tools | gtk-apps I mean |
10:02.04 | tools | when running kde that is of course |
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10:05.51 | paleywiener | tools: wouldn't gtk apps be dependent on the gtk libs.. ergo how could you use kde to change a font used via gtk? |
10:07.10 | terietor | tools: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml |
10:07.15 | terietor | read this guide |
10:07.37 | terietor | somewhere in the end descreibes how to make gtk apps to look like qt ones! |
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10:08.13 | terietor | i have a prob with plasma's effect |
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10:08.20 | terietor | i cannot activate them |
10:08.24 | terietor | can u help me? |
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10:25.35 | elliot98 | where do I find the qdbus methods for kde? |
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10:30.12 | cb400f | elliot98: qdbusviewer |
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10:43.28 | jorn | Mamarok: problem still exists even with kde 4.5.2 |
10:43.54 | Mamarok | jorn: very strange, you did start korganizer at least once? |
10:44.13 | Mamarok | it shows correctly here, but I use Kontact |
10:44.20 | Mamarok | not the separate elements |
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10:45.01 | OzoNe | a las buenas |
10:46.27 | jorn | Mamarok: this is just the reminder daemon which is supposed to run even in case kontakt or korganizer doesn't |
10:47.33 | jorn | but neither running korganizer nor kontact loads the icon |
10:49.13 | jorn | what i can do to get the icon is: fire up korganizer, go to settings / general / system tray, deactivate checkbox "show reminder daemon in systray", apply (empty box in systray disappears), reactivate it and apply (korganizer icon shows up in systray). |
10:49.34 | jorn | but: as soon as I logout and back in it's all back to empty icon in systray |
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11:03.35 | Peace- | anyone know how to disable query on konversation ? |
11:04.34 | Kalidarn | hey is it possible to change the blue halo around windows |
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11:15.43 | elliot98 | cb400f: qdbusviewer does not exist, only qdbus |
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11:18.07 | Kalidarn | mm oxygen-molecule is quite nice |
11:19.50 | cb400f | Kalidarn: gtk-oxygen-engine might be nicer ;-) .. not quite decided yet though |
11:20.07 | Peace- | elliot98: you have to install qt4 dev tools |
11:20.10 | Peace- | elliot98: to get it |
11:20.18 | elliot98 | Peace-: oh oh |
11:20.18 | Kalidarn | hmm i think i have those already |
11:20.31 | Kalidarn | any of you know what package it is in kubuntu? |
11:20.39 | Peace- | Kalidarn: i have kubuntu just a sec |
11:20.49 | cb400f | elliot98: on opensuse it's in libqt4-x11 |
11:20.51 | elliot98 | Peace-: I'm using KDE 4.2.2 - were the qdbus methods developed much during that time |
11:20.58 | cb400f | but pretty sure it's installed by default |
11:21.12 | Peace- | The program 'qdbusviewer' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: |
11:21.13 | Peace- | sudo apt-get install qt4-dev-tools |
11:21.28 | Kalidarn | ah cool no it wasn't installed |
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11:21.45 | Kalidarn | not sure why i installed kdesdk |
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11:22.00 | Peace- | when you type ther program on konsole |
11:22.13 | Peace- | in my distro if programn is not installed |
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11:22.21 | Peace- | it says which pakcakge has it |
11:22.22 | Kalidarn | yeah same Peace |
11:22.29 | Kalidarn | true |
11:22.32 | cb400f | Kalidarn: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/gtk-oxygen-engine?content=129715 |
11:23.00 | elliot98 | qt devs are 150MB...oish |
11:23.08 | Kalidarn | so as opposed to being a theme |
11:23.20 | Kalidarn | it's an actual engine designed to interpret what various gtk widgets are supposed to be? |
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11:23.52 | Kalidarn | i've always liked how Qt is really good at emulating GTK apps it's a pity GTK isn't so good at emulating Qt apps ^_^ |
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11:28.36 | Kalidarn | cb400f: gtk-oxygen-engine is an option in the GTK+ Apperance module? |
11:28.41 | elliot98 | where can I find good tutorial about qdbus, using the methods, interface_names, etc.. |
11:29.05 | Kalidarn | cb400f: or do i have to restart KDE to see it |
11:29.46 | cb400f | Kalidarn: I think when I installed the package it appeared as theme in the gtk-style thing in systemsettings under the name "oxygen" |
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11:30.55 | Kalidarn | maybe i have to login angain |
11:32.07 | Kalidarn | hmm no that didn't help |
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11:33.20 | Kalidarn | im sure it's installed by default |
11:33.31 | Kalidarn | but i changed it and then when i went in there to change it back it was gone |
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11:41.04 | Kalidarn | mm |
11:41.22 | Kalidarn | Peace-: do you know how to enable it? |
11:45.18 | elliot98 | I am trying to run qdbus org.kde.kmail /kmail/kmail_mainwindow_1 org.kde.KMainWindow.activateAction check_mail_in |
11:45.29 | elliot98 | how do I determine which specific mailboxes to check? |
11:45.39 | Kalidarn | lol elliot98 how do i enable this? |
11:45.43 | Kalidarn | perhaps i need to restart kdm |
11:45.50 | Kalidarn | to see it in the gtk change settings module thingy |
11:46.02 | elliot98 | enable what? |
11:46.02 | Kalidarn | cos i do not see a theme called "Oxygen" |
11:46.02 | Kalidarn | in there |
11:46.15 | Kalidarn | when i installed qt4-dev-tools |
11:46.48 | elliot98 | I'm all in the CLI...not yet up to themes |
11:47.01 | Kalidarn | oh yeah im lazy i use kubuntu on my desktop lol |
11:47.57 | Peace- | Kalidarn: sorry i was out |
11:48.04 | Kalidarn | oh |
11:48.08 | Kalidarn | so how do i switch to it |
11:48.17 | Peace- | Kalidarn: what? |
11:48.25 | Kalidarn | gtk-oxygen-engine |
11:48.36 | Kalidarn | i thought it'd be in GTK+ Apperance |
11:48.46 | elliot98 | also, how do I set property values using qdbus? |
11:48.51 | Kalidarn | i installed qt4-dev-tools |
11:49.13 | Peace- | Kalidarn: coudl explain better your problem i can't understand i was taking a coffe right now |
11:49.14 | Peace- | xD |
11:49.26 | Peace- | so |
11:49.40 | Peace- | you have installed qt4 .dev tools to do what? |
11:49.55 | Kalidarn | someone said that gtk-oxygen-engine was included in that |
11:49.59 | Peace- | no |
11:50.02 | Kalidarn | oh |
11:50.04 | Peace- | that is not true |
11:50.12 | Peace- | Kalidarn: you have kubntu right? |
11:50.14 | Kalidarn | maybe i mis-read lol. |
11:50.16 | Kalidarn | yer |
11:50.21 | Peace- | Kalidarn: i think yes |
11:50.38 | Peace- | Kalidarn: qt4.dev tools is needed to get qdbusviewer |
11:50.42 | Peace- | Kalidarn: anyway |
11:50.46 | Kalidarn | oh lol |
11:51.27 | Kalidarn | i've tried googling about all i get is other stuff lol |
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11:52.46 | Kalidarn | oh lol i did noob up there haha |
11:52.47 | Peace- | Kalidarn: can you see this http://imagebin.ca/view/wCHL1ZyS.html |
11:52.48 | elliot98 | the qdbus org.kde.kmail /kmail/kmail_mainwindow_1 org.kde.KMainWindow.activateAction only allows the name of the action to perform, |
11:52.52 | elliot98 | but not variables to it |
11:52.53 | Kalidarn | guess going to bed at 5AM doesn't help |
11:53.03 | elliot98 | how do I send along variables too |
11:53.05 | elliot98 | ? |
11:53.44 | Kalidarn | Peace-: i do see that script in there. |
11:53.50 | Kalidarn | it must be the theme QtCurve then |
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11:54.52 | Kalidarn | mmm yeah i think molecule looks better |
11:55.08 | elliot98 | I guess the version of KDE I'm using does not yet implement certain features... |
11:55.28 | Peace- | elliot98: you need to study |
11:55.28 | Kalidarn | yeah im using 4.5.2 |
11:55.30 | Peace- | xD |
11:55.54 | elliot98 | Peace-: :) |
11:56.08 | elliot98 | Peace-: where's the local qdbus university? |
11:56.23 | Peace- | world wide web |
11:56.25 | Peace- | :) |
11:56.49 | Peace- | anyway here from italy seee yaaa |
11:56.54 | Peace- | i have to go |
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11:57.11 | elliot98 | bye! |
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12:19.01 | paleywiener | is there some way by which i can figure out the various Service Types and Actions on offer by various kde programs |
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12:42.10 | elliot98 | paleywiener: you mean something like qdbusviewer? |
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12:46.17 | nCdy | what's better openbox or kde >_< |
12:47.15 | elliot98 | elliot98: what is better? |
12:47.46 | nCdy | yes ... ) |
12:50.56 | pinotree | nCdy: the one you prefer most |
12:51.55 | nCdy | I can't chose >_< both is good :D |
12:53.11 | AndrzejL | the best is kde |
12:53.17 | AndrzejL | lxde is right behind it |
12:53.25 | AndrzejL | openbox is not for me ;) |
12:53.32 | AndrzejL | I like jwm too ;) |
12:53.33 | cb400f | lxde uses openbox |
12:53.37 | nCdy | I hate lxde ==' |
12:53.43 | AndrzejL | hehe ;) |
12:53.59 | AndrzejL | do You know whats best about all of the DE? |
12:54.02 | AndrzejL | CHOICE |
12:54.03 | AndrzejL | ;)_ |
12:54.28 | nCdy | :D |
12:54.30 | cb400f | hm.. since I first tried KDE I never felt like there was any choice anymore ;-) |
12:55.10 | nCdy | I like clear openbox with tint2 panel and some good terminal and it fast (faster that KDE) , but KDE is more beauty ... and have some good features ) |
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12:58.04 | nCdy | So :D what is just better , KDE or OpenBox XD I want epic holy answer like clarity ! :3 |
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12:59.28 | jonnor | nCdy: false dicthomy, you can use Openbox in KDE. Or KDE applications in Openbox or whatnot |
12:59.56 | nCdy | jonnor: yes ... but I more like kwin with kde ^_^ |
13:00.17 | nCdy | jonnor: can I use kwim with openbox ? >_< |
13:00.40 | nCdy | (with clear X serv I mean) sorry for wrong syntax ) |
13:02.44 | Kame2 | nCdy: what an easy question... you are in #kde so the only holy DE ist kde. simple as that ;) |
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13:05.24 | paleywiener | is there some way by which i can figure out the various Service Types and Actions on offer by various kde programs. I'm trying to add a menu-item to start xterm within a particular folder on right-click. I have a test.desktop file and it works with images (right click image and "start xterm", will create an xterm in the concerned folder) but i need to get it working with "Folders" and for that I need to figure out the "service type" for folders.. |
13:05.24 | paleywiener | for images it's image/* |
13:06.23 | paleywiener | any way to query sycoca using perl or python? I don't know c++ |
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13:08.10 | pinotree | paleywiener: inode/directory |
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13:12.07 | paleywiener | pinotree: hey, thanks :) how did you identify that.. also can i fiddle around with kde using perl?? guess not..? I'd like to maybe query sycoca and see what "actions" various plugins have provided.. |
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13:13.25 | Smak | Could someone dumb down nepomuk for me and tell me why I need/should use it? |
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13:55.31 | Oleg_ | hi |
13:55.36 | nobarking | hello |
13:56.01 | nobarking | what's a good recommended KDE SC based distro? |
13:57.38 | bonsaikitten | nobarking: most work well. Everyone has his favourite. |
13:57.39 | Oleg_ | gentoo, slackware, ubuntu, Debian, fedora core, and freebsd |
13:57.58 | nobarking | bonsaikitten: what's your favorite? |
13:58.23 | bonsaikitten | gentoo |
13:58.26 | bonsaikitten | obviously |
13:59.18 | Oleg_ | gentoo is the king and queen |
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14:00.52 | Oleg_ | slackware and freebsd are the close second |
14:01.14 | Torch | nobarking: depends on your requirements completely |
14:01.40 | Oleg_ | bonsaikitten: oh, I see you are an op in the gentoo channel |
14:02.14 | bonsaikitten | Oleg_: not only :) |
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14:03.52 | nobarking | never tried gentoo |
14:04.26 | nobarking | why do you say gentoo is the best KDE SC distro? |
14:04.45 | bonsaikitten | I didn't say that. I said it's my personal favourite |
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14:06.29 | nobarking | why is your personal favorite? |
14:06.47 | nobarking | what does gentoo do in terms of KDE SC that other distros don't? |
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14:09.16 | fixl | good question ... i quite liked aptosid (formerly sidux), but kde on gentoo works like a charm |
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14:10.12 | fixl | kubuntu's kde integration didn't feel good to me |
14:10.50 | nobarking | yup, there are lot of complaints about kubuntu |
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14:11.33 | fixl | well i switched from kubuntu to sidux |
14:11.37 | fixl | and from that to gentoo |
14:12.03 | alienBOB | Now's the time to switch once more to Slackware then... |
14:12.16 | fixl | alienBOB: why? |
14:12.34 | fixl | i had to have a play with it at uni |
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14:12.52 | fixl | no X though |
14:13.10 | alienBOB | fixl: obviously I think Slackware is a good distro for KDE |
14:14.34 | fixl | alienBOB: I see. |
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14:23.57 | Oleg_ | bonsaikitten: portage 2.1.9.x is still not a part of a stable distro |
14:24.15 | bonsaikitten | ... and? |
14:24.44 | Oleg_ | bonsaikitten: that's weird |
14:24.54 | bonsaikitten | no, be patient :) |
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14:29.36 | jaafar | Can someone tell me how to change the startup sequence? i.e, both the order of starting of regular apps and those docked in my taskbar... I want to have my network come up first thing |
14:30.07 | jaafar | It's not easy to figure out from docs.kde.org - I think I first have to know which program is controlling this? |
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14:36.10 | esdaniel | jaafar: which distro are you using? |
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14:41.17 | jaafar | esdaniel: hi! it's kubuntu, thanks |
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14:48.06 | paleywiener | is there a easy (using a scripting langauge - perl, python) way to query the sycoca app and figure out what "Actions" are registered with it |
14:48.30 | thiago | ktraderclient |
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14:50.11 | paleywiener | thiago thanks :) |
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15:04.18 | esdaniel | jaafar: your network daemon is part of the init scripts... /etc/sysconfig if i remember correctly |
15:05.13 | esdaniel | jaafar: to test, before login switch to a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1), log in then ping something to verify your network is 'up' |
15:05.54 | esdaniel | jaafar: with respect to specific network settings applied thereafter by KDE someone else might like to continue where I've left off |
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15:07.15 | paleywiener | thiago: is there a way to get a dump of all the "actions" stuf like: Action name="new_window" |
15:08.04 | paleywiener | i'd like to add a button to konqueror which opens one particular folder when clicked |
15:09.21 | thiago | paleywiener: no idea, sorry |
15:10.40 | paleywiener | nm, thanks though. ktradertest (on lenny) |
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15:12.21 | jaafar | esdaniel: thanks so much for your help. /etc/sysconfig sounds like where the system (i.e., more fundamental than KDE) config is done. I do find that my network comes up only once the network manager plasmoid (or whatever the taskbar item is) appears |
15:13.06 | jaafar | so I'm thinking that the system bits appear in an unconfigured or quiescent state, waiting to be told to connect (esp. wrt my wireless password etc.) |
15:13.52 | jaafar | if I could only get the network manager thing to happen first my startup experience would be much more pleasant. Instead I have to deal with e.g. kwallet, the printer applet, etc etc |
15:14.18 | jaafar | meanwhile web browser etc. is coming up and telling me I have no network |
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15:20.48 | esdaniel | jaafar: "web browser coming up" this is something you configured... if you've set several apps to autostart then it's a case of how you approached that |
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15:21.21 | esdaniel | jaafar: for example, i have a custom startup script i click once the desktop is loaded, it has the things in the sequence i want |
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15:22.21 | esdaniel | jaafar: with respect to how things load such as plasmoids i would gather it's how the *rc files get parsed and the sequences therein |
15:22.42 | esdaniel | jaafar: there are not any simple means of managing those sequences other than by hacking the config files directly |
15:22.49 | esdaniel | Someone else correct me if I'm wrong! |
15:23.26 | jaafar | esdaniel: I'm cool with hacking config files! Just wish I knew which one... or does the plasma desktop load them in alpha order or something? |
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15:23.54 | esdaniel | jaafar: it's annoying spaghetti - grep/ack is your god, learn to use that to hunt config info |
15:24.18 | jaafar | yeah, find ~/.kde -exec grep network {} \; -ls reveals nothing useful :) |
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15:24.46 | esdaniel | jaafar: grep -R net ~/.kde/share/config/ |
15:25.23 | esdaniel | keep it simple |
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15:27.50 | jaafar | esdaniel: good one, I'll have to remember that :) |
15:28.13 | esdaniel | jaafar: check out ack vs grep as well |
15:28.30 | jaafar | esdaniel: ack is a new one to me. I thought you were misspelling "awk" :) |
15:28.41 | esdaniel | http://betterthangrep.com |
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15:29.30 | jaafar | esdaniel: thanks for all your help. I think I'll set this one aside and wait for a flash of insight to come. It's been like this for ages, I can wait a little longer |
15:31.13 | jaafar | nice, ack looks like it packages up things I do a lot while coding |
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15:34.55 | parapente | hi. I have a problem with the sound volume in kde 4.5.2 using pulseaudio. If I have amarok playing and another program triggers a sound event, the volume goes up to 100%. I can't really tell if it kde, pulseaudio or amarok's fault |
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15:44.22 | rdieter | parapente: likely pulseaudio's flat-volume feature going awry |
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15:45.22 | rdieter | parapente: you can disable that by setting, flat-volumes = no , in pulse's daemon.conf (lives @ /etc/pulse/daemon.conf on my fedora box, but ymmv) |
15:45.42 | rdieter | parapente: to see if that helps any (you'll need to restart pa or your session after making that change) |
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15:49.30 | parapente | rdieter, thanks! I'll try that |
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16:04.36 | parapente | rdieter, the flat-volumes = no prevents master volume from going to 100%, however the amarok volume still goes 100% whenever a sound event occurs. Any ideas? |
16:04.47 | parapente | could it be a phonon bug? |
16:05.53 | rdieter | parapente: dunno, never seen that (amarok's volume changing on it's own) |
16:06.17 | xaphir | is there a way to manually tell phonon to use oss? |
16:07.06 | thiago | phonon doesn't use oss directly |
16:07.14 | thiago | phonon uses a backend, which in turn uses whatever it wants to |
16:07.16 | thiago | most of them use ALSA |
16:07.49 | kriko | parapente: do you use pulseaudio? |
16:07.51 | parapente | rdieter, thanks anyway! I'll keep on googling |
16:08.01 | parapente | kriko, yes |
16:08.10 | kriko | try to disable it and relogin |
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16:08.33 | kriko | never saw such issue and I don't use pulseaudio |
16:08.44 | parapente | ok I'll try that |
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16:19.55 | parapente | kriko, indeed it seems to be a pulseaudio issue |
16:20.26 | parapente | without pulseaudio the amarok doesn't change it's volume |
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16:25.36 | kriko | parapente: good to see you've sorted out |
16:26.43 | parapente | it would be nice if I managed to get pulseaudio to work correctly though. this didn't seem to happen in kde 4.5.1 |
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16:37.29 | xaphir | Is arts still used in kde 4+ or is it deprecated |
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16:43.04 | shadyabhi | Whats the normal memory usage for plasma-desktop? |
16:43.09 | parapente | xaphir, no arts no longer exists in kde4 |
16:43.56 | xaphir | what's doing the mixing parapente? |
16:44.48 | parapente | xaphir, if you don't have pulseaudio installed, ALSA |
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16:45.23 | shadyabhi | Memory usage for plasma-desktop reaches 250 MB and up after keeping my PC on for 3 days.. Right now, its 296MB!! |
16:46.54 | parapente | shadyabhi, here in top, in the RES column plasma-desktop shows 129MB |
16:47.09 | xaphir | parapente: phonon doesn't do any mixing functions then |
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16:47.43 | shadyabhi | I am on KDE 4.5.2. So, what can be the issue? |
16:47.48 | shadyabhi | parapente: ^ |
16:48.24 | parapente | xaphir, no, alsa does that actually. phonon just helps applications to easily detect audio hardware and use it |
16:48.44 | parapente | shadyabhi, I don't really know :-/ Can't help you there |
16:49.01 | parapente | I'm on 4.5.2 too |
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17:06.48 | thomasj | KDE 4.5.2, uptime 5 Days+, plasma-desktop 79M |
17:09.40 | thiago_home | 79 MB of what? |
17:09.42 | thomasj | Probably depends on the activitys/plasmoids you're using. But that's just a guess. |
17:10.02 | thiago_home | if it's VSZ, that's very small |
17:10.05 | thomasj | thiago_home: RES in htop |
17:10.15 | thiago_home | how much of that RSS is shared? |
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17:10.30 | thomasj | 33M |
17:10.51 | thomasj | Virt is 1280M |
17:11.21 | thiago_home | so you have 46 MB of unshared memory |
17:11.45 | thomasj | Yep |
17:11.50 | thiago_home | that's a higher than mine. I am at 33 MB. |
17:12.20 | thomasj | I knew it's not the best out there :) |
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17:13.38 | thomasj | But i'm happy. plasma-desktop/plasma is getting better with every release. |
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17:13.59 | thomasj | And now that i finally understand how to use the activitys, i'm really happy |
17:14.21 | thomasj | http://hanschen.org/2009/11/17/how-do-you-use-activities/ |
17:15.02 | thomasj | And i still type it wrong :( /me writes thousand times "activities" |
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17:23.00 | Sanitoeter | hi, is there a way to have ksplash at autologin, too? Right now I can see a cursor on a black screen only and I have to guess when the login process finished |
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17:32.51 | shadyabhi | thomasj: have u switched off composition? |
17:33.21 | shadyabhi | thomasj: Sorry, didnt see your message.. My message was not in your reply so didnt get the notification |
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17:39.03 | thomasj | Compositing )kwin effects) is on |
17:39.15 | thomasj | Meh.. I still can't type :) |
17:41.02 | thomasj | Though i changed the default effects. |
17:41.08 | shadyabhi | thomasj: Ohk. Then I have some issue... |
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17:41.51 | shadyabhi | thomasj: I also have only wobbly,glide & minimize animation on |
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17:42.50 | thomasj | I have a couple more, but i doubt it's that. |
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17:50.43 | thomasj | shadyabhi: have you tried to find out if more people with your distro have the "issue"? |
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17:52.15 | shadyabhi | thomasj: I dont think distro will be issue. My distro doest have X by default. I am on ArchLinux64 |
17:52.27 | shadyabhi | thomasj: So, its pure KDE installed |
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17:58.32 | r4tune | kde plasma-desktop is crashing after updating to the latest nvidia drivers with "floating point exception". now i can downgrade either kde or the nvidia drivers but does anyone have a better solution? |
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17:58.43 | r4tune | it does this every time. |
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18:00.03 | r4tune | I am using 4.5.1 via OpenSUSE Factory backports to 11.3 |
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18:00.55 | cb400f | try updating then ;-) .. you should have 4.5.2 |
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18:03.05 | r4tune | then i'd have to run factory factory |
18:03.06 | r4tune | heh |
18:03.16 | r4tune | still |
18:03.18 | r4tune | why not |
18:04.14 | r4tune | ah |
18:04.18 | r4tune | i am running 4.5.2 |
18:04.22 | ABCD | I'm trying to figure out if this is an actual bug or expected behavior: in kpat, when I accidentally miss one of the cards and drag the table behind them, the *entire window* starts moving -- which is *not* expected behavior, and I would argue is a *regression* from previous behavior |
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18:04.26 | r4tune | sort of |
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18:04.49 | r4tune | im not sure what opensuse are doing with that but i am running: KDE Development Platform: 4.5.2 (KDE 4.5.2) yet, KWin: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) |
18:04.54 | pinotree | ABCD: that's the oxygen style allow window dragging on empty spots |
18:05.07 | r4tune | this is what their repo gave me |
18:05.11 | pinotree | run `oxygen-settings` and disable that feature, if you don't want to |
18:05.35 | ABCD | pinotree: so, how do I disable that for places where it *shouldn't* happen, but not for apps where it should? |
18:05.49 | pinotree | i don't think you can |
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18:06.59 | ABCD | then that's a bug -- I don't think accidentally missing a card by a single pixel means that I should be dragging the containing window all over creation |
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18:08.17 | terietor | does anyone know where can i find a list with the current devs? |
18:08.57 | pinotree | terietor: what for? |
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18:10.37 | terietor | pinotree: i am using gentoo linux,which has a list with the current devs.i am just curious to learn the current number of the devs and the consistence of the teams |
18:10.53 | terietor | just for curiocity |
18:11.00 | pinotree | we don't have anything like that |
18:14.20 | r4tune | terietor: if you looked at an archive of the mailing list and scraped the maintainers from bug reporting system you'd have a pretty good list. |
18:14.46 | terietor | r4tune: thanks |
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18:17.02 | mgraesslin | terietor: you might also like this blog http://blogs.fsfe.org/padams/ |
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18:18.33 | terietor | mgraesslin: thank you |
18:20.24 | r4tune | terietor: if you scrape the bug reporting system it might be nice to do it via google since everyone abuses their bandwidth and you would steal a fair bit of kde bandwidth doing that |
18:21.55 | terietor | r4tune: i didn't understand what u told me? |
18:22.02 | r4tune | google caches pages |
18:22.11 | r4tune | cache:http://www.foo.com |
18:22.13 | r4tune | etc |
18:22.20 | r4tune | n/m |
18:22.58 | terietor | r4tune: oh,i see |
18:23.01 | terietor | thanks |
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18:32.31 | ShishKabab | Is there an easy way to make Kate recognize *.pyx and *.pxd files as Python files? I've already changed the mimetype of Python files, but this doesn't seem to work for Kate. |
18:33.17 | r4tune | ShishKabab sudo: ln -sf `which vim` `which kate` |
18:33.23 | r4tune | :P |
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18:34.15 | r4tune | tries opening a python file in kate and poking it |
18:34.25 | ShishKabab | r4tune: Haha, I triend Vim, but it doesn't get along with Klipper too well :S |
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18:34.35 | r4tune | ShishKabab: it does if you set mouse to off |
18:34.39 | r4tune | then use console to copy |
18:34.44 | r4tune | or rather set mouse=h |
18:34.55 | r4tune | then you can still click around in help |
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18:35.39 | r4tune | mouse in vim is irritating anyway, it moves the cursor when you re-select the screen and you can always select a visual block faster with the keyboard |
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18:35.49 | Finswimmer | Hello, I have following service menu entry. It should work on PDF files, but it does not: [Desktop Entry] ; Type=Service |
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18:36.04 | Finswimmer | ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin MimeTypes=application/pdf; |
18:36.26 | Finswimmer | If I omit the MimeType it works. |
18:36.41 | r4tune | ShishKabab: that's odd, kate recognises pyx files as python here |
18:36.55 | r4tune | i didn't do a thing, it has a shebang though and a python utf-8 marker |
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18:37.03 | r4tune | deletes them and sees what happens |
18:37.13 | Finswimmer | Just found it itselfs...as always when I am posting something. It must be "MimeType" not "MimeTypes" |
18:37.19 | ShishKabab | r4tune: Ok, what happened was that while in visual mode when moving the cursor to the right for example klipper would get entries for each stage in the selection, like w, wo, wor, word. |
18:38.00 | r4tune | it picked up the shebang thats why it knew it was pythong |
18:38.07 | ShishKabab | r4tune: I don't use shebangs in *.pyx files since they're not executable :) |
18:38.20 | r4tune | ShishKabab: I use vim and clipper together without trouble so i don't know why yours is naughty :) |
18:38.41 | r4tune | ShishKabab: yeah... *looks around to see if there's a way of doing it* |
18:39.30 | ShishKabab | r4tune: Interesting. I'll try some more with Vim later. It heard it also has Python code-completion. |
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18:40.10 | r4tune | it has several versions of python code completion |
18:40.15 | r4tune | you would want rope for it |
18:40.19 | r4tune | and maybe pydiction |
18:40.58 | r4tune | rope also does refactoring :) |
18:41.11 | r4tune | and has code help for the system call you're doing |
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18:42.27 | ShishKabab | Ok, sounds interesting. The only disadvantage I have is that I can only type with one (left) hand, so hitting ESC all the time will take some extra time. |
18:42.45 | ShishKabab | Or is that configurable? |
18:43.24 | r4tune | you are nearly always in "normal" mode in vim, you do have to hit ESC a lot but you could change ESC to another key if you din't like it |
18:45.04 | ShishKabab | Maybe I'll change it to the Windows, uhm, super key :) |
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18:52.28 | ShishKabab | r4tune: I think I found it. I've edited /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/python.xml . Now let's hope that dpkg won't overwrite it :) . |
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19:02.49 | r4tune | ShishKabab: chattr +i python.xml |
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19:02.55 | r4tune | ShishKabab: I worked it out another way |
19:03.02 | r4tune | i straced kate and it uses the mime magic files |
19:03.21 | r4tune | so i just added a mime magic for python that looks for the charset encoding , i always put that in python files |
19:04.11 | r4tune | ShishKabab: dpkg can't overwrite it if you do that |
19:04.16 | r4tune | anyway bbl |
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19:24.21 | mo0n_sniper | what application can be used in kde to issue commands atop the fish protocol? |
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19:25.05 | thiago_home | none |
19:25.12 | leo_rockway | mo0n_sniper: konsole and ssh? o.o |
19:25.13 | thiago_home | kio_fish only issues its own commands |
19:26.13 | mo0n_sniper | i would like to have a program to browse files and issue comands |
19:26.24 | mo0n_sniper | on a server thru ssh |
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19:27.21 | thiago_home | what leo_rockway said |
19:27.26 | thiago_home | konsole + ssh for issuing commands |
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19:28.00 | leo_rockway | I use yakuake ^_^ |
19:28.13 | mo0n_sniper | yes but i'm looking for somenthing like midnight commander with a gui |
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19:28.26 | mo0n_sniper | you see the files and you issue commands |
19:28.40 | mo0n_sniper | I also use yakuake :) |
19:28.52 | mo0n_sniper | is there something like that? |
19:29.00 | Sho_ | maybe Krusader |
19:29.34 | mo0n_sniper | Sho_, good idea |
19:29.45 | thiago_home | commands cannot be sent via the same ssh connection as kio_fish uses |
19:29.53 | thiago_home | kio_fish doesn't let commands be sent |
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19:30.42 | mo0n_sniper | oh, didn't know that |
19:31.06 | mo0n_sniper | is there another solution that could have them both? |
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19:41.37 | sharp15 | how do i make kdm aknowledge new .desktop files in /etc/X11/sessions? does it have a different directory that it checks? |
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20:01.23 | sharp15 | how do i register new window managers with kdm? |
20:02.25 | thiago_home | install their .desktop files in the place that kdm searches for |
20:02.57 | sharp15 | thiago_home: what are those locations? |
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20:03.08 | rdieter | sharp15: find your kdmrc, and look for SessionsDirs= directive |
20:03.16 | thiago_home | $KDEDIRS/share/apps/kdm/sessions |
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20:09.36 | sharp15 | thiago_home: where is $KDEDIRS defined? |
20:10.28 | thiago_home | usually nowhere |
20:10.34 | thiago_home | it defaults to kde4-config --prefix |
20:10.49 | thiago_home | plus kde4-config --localprefix |
20:11.32 | sharp15 | thiago_home: thank you for the follow on comments. i wanted to know who defined it (KDE or distro) and how to determine it. |
20:11.53 | thiago_home | for kdm, --localprefix has no meaning, of course |
20:12.27 | sharp15 | only "of course" if you know the difference. which i don't. |
20:12.59 | thiago_home | run the two commands and you'll see the difference |
20:13.08 | thiago_home | remember that kdm is the *login* manager |
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20:39.03 | Torch | sharp15: localprefix is for the current _user_. |
20:39.10 | Torch | sharp15: that's not a concept a login manager could have. |
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20:44.22 | arkascha | Using kde-4.5.2 and opensuse-11.3 I fail to setup keyboard shortcuts to launch applications ?!? I tried setting them in the menu editor (they are stored and show next time I open it), but the key sequence does not fire the application... |
20:44.35 | arkascha | What else can I try ? Why doesnt this work as expected ? |
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20:48.51 | leo_rockway | arkascha: go to system settings > common appearance and behaviour > shortcuts and gestures > custom shortcuts |
20:48.56 | leo_rockway | make sure kmenuedit is enabled |
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20:54.52 | arkascha | leo_rockway: you saved my evening ! |
20:54.59 | arkascha | leo_rockway: *thanks* |
20:55.19 | leo_rockway | arkascha: I've been there too... |
20:55.20 | leo_rockway | no problem |
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21:27.41 | bing | hi folks, i've started a project to document the free software culture by collecting desktop videos of free software being developed |
21:28.15 | bing | i'd like to include some videos of kde being developed |
21:28.34 | bing | the idea is to have very short 1-2 minute videos, and they'll be hosted on archive.org. |
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21:29.09 | bing | does anybody want to upload a video? |
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21:30.59 | bing | i'm not looking for demos, or tutorials... but an authentic depiction of free software being developed |
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21:45.42 | dasKreech | bing: I'm confused you want a video of KDE "being developed" ? |
21:46.17 | bing | dasKreech: yes, a desktop video of someone programming, or writing documentation, or just generally contributing to the project |
21:46.40 | bing | dasKreech: by desktop video i mean a screencast. created with recordmydesktop or something. |
21:46.42 | dasKreech | points bing to userbase.kde.org |
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21:47.20 | dasKreech | bing: Put up a page there and record yourself. Pretty easy |
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21:47.38 | bing | dasKreech: oh, it's a larger project than that |
21:47.46 | bing | dasKreech: www.asselstine.com/1000minutes |
21:47.49 | dasKreech | bing: it's a start :) |
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22:20.56 | e01 | how can i speedup the kwin, because when i resizing windows they are laggy |
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22:30.50 | icwiener | e01: Turning off Desktop Effects helped here. |
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22:32.55 | uessebe | e01: http://blog.jasondonenfeld.com/190 check this link |
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22:38.04 | junkDawgie | KDE4.5.2/Qt4.7, i have konversation v1.3.1 which occasionally will have the mouse cursor disappear when hovering over the tab area of the window layout.... restart konversation and this annoyance disappears, anyone confirm? |
22:39.12 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: It's a non-Konversation-specific Qt bug that appeared in Qt 4.6rc1 and is fixed by Qt 4.7.1 which should be out shortly. Some distributions (e.g. Fedora and I believe also Kubuntu) have also backported the fix to their Qt 4.7.0 packages. |
22:40.31 | junkDawgie | understood, Sho_.... yes, i have noticed it for quite some time...... thanks for your input. |
22:41.11 | Sho_ | np |
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22:41.41 | junkDawgie | for me it only appears on konversation thou, some code that is not used by most other applications |
22:42.24 | junkDawgie | we'll see what Qt 4.7.1 does... thanks :) |
22:42.33 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: FWIW, to reproduce it you have to copy several lines to your clipboard, then place your mouse cursor over the input line, then type something into the input line which causes the cursor to be hidden, then Ctrl+V to trigger the large paste warning dialog and then dismiss it with ESC, and then your cursor will get stuck hidden over half the UI |
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22:43.48 | junkDawgie | sounds like it's connected to that feature that adds the ability to type different lines and scroll up or down to issue them |
22:44.03 | junkDawgie | from the input box |
22:44.04 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: the underlying technical problem is that Qt's widget cursor property inheritance stuff gets messed up when a non-native widget gets converted into a native window, which you can cause to happen in pretty much any app, it's just more likely in Konversation due to the above sequence of events being fairly common |
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22:44.44 | Sho_ | to recap, Qt 4.7.1 fixes it and some distros have also backported the fix to their 4.7.0 packages |
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22:45.10 | junkDawgie | makes sense.... that really made it clear, Sho_1.... i'm thankful you were around to truely explain. |
22:46.49 | Sho_ | junkDawgie: http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/releases/commit/f9312fec1c44097a2093b3075aa68901327eb9c5 <- the patch that fixes it |
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22:55.00 | sithlord48 | i'm having issues w/ amarok (kde 4.5.2) i put some files in my ~/music and it didn't add them to the collection.. so i tried "update collection" and the full rescan no change. i have even removed my ~/.kde/apps/share/amarok folder now it only sees 161 tracks in that folder (of over 7k ) |
22:56.00 | sithlord48 | its amarok 2.3.2 |
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23:13.00 | _stijn_ | I'm working on an Plasmoid |
23:13.16 | _stijn_ | Now I want to get some data of a website |
23:13.45 | _stijn_ | can I do this through an DataEngine and if yes, which DataEngine do I use? |
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23:16.59 | howlymowly | hi poeple :) short question: does rekonq already support chromium extensions? |
23:17.25 | Sho_ | no |
23:17.46 | Sho_ | there is some ongoing work in a branch |
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23:26.16 | _stijn_ | does anyone worked with RemoteDataEngine ? |
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23:32.30 | g3man | hi |
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23:34.01 | g3man | thanks 4 KDE |
23:34.06 | g3man | ;-) |
23:34.23 | _stijn_ | who needs gnome, right? :P |
23:34.59 | g3man | gnome? what's this!? :P |
23:36.34 | _stijn_ | dunnow, some sloppy desktop env. |
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