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| 00:07.50 | wilhart | where in KDE do i config that alt-tab just access desktop1? |
| 00:10.16 | Sho_ | wilhart: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Task Switcher -> List Windows: Current Desktop |
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| 01:26.33 | jcolby | Hey all, I am running kde 4.5.2 compiled from source, and the activities icon in the cashew is missing. Any ideas as to what might be wrong? |
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| 01:43.08 | racerxsel | i am having a problem with KDE 4.5.1, in folder mode, when I edit and icon, all my icons move to left side nad are in alphebetical order |
| 01:43.40 | racerxsel | I have 6 -7 installs all with kde 4.5.1. Some do this other do not. |
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| 01:44.07 | racerxsel | It also happens when certain updates are installed. |
| 01:45.51 | racerxsel | I am running Kubuntu 10.04. I even had it happen on one laptop that was not setup as folder view |
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| 02:02.20 | shadowkyogre | distro: Arch Linux |
| 02:02.20 | shadowkyogre | KDE version: 4.5.2 |
| 02:02.20 | shadowkyogre | http://ompldr.org/vNjBndA/hurp.png â when openoffice launches and loads a file, there's this annoying grey bar. Is there something in the colors corresponding to this? |
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| 02:05.47 | leo_rockway | shadowkyogre: OO.o is not a KDE nor Qt app... |
| 02:05.54 | leo_rockway | it's not going to integrate fully with KDE |
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| 02:13.59 | Compgenius999 | guys, whats the command to restart the window manager in kde? my compiz crashed and now my titlebars are gone |
| 02:14.49 | jcolby | Compgenius999: kwin --replace to restart kwin, not sure how to restart compiz |
| 02:14.59 | Compgenius999 | jcolby, thanks |
| 02:15.20 | Compgenius999 | jcolby, any idea how i can execute a shell command from xchat? |
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| 02:16.02 | Compgenius999 | oh, doesn't matter |
| 02:16.08 | jcolby | Compgenius999: No, can you use the krunner shortcute <alt> + F2 and open up an xterm? |
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| 02:16.30 | Compgenius999 | jcolby, doesn't matter, fixed it |
| 02:16.38 | jcolby | Compgenius999: ok |
| 02:16.39 | Compgenius999 | i just did /exec kwin --replace, |
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| 02:16.48 | jcolby | Compgenius999: cool |
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| 02:55.00 | Nitrostemp | can someone help me with an error im getting when compiling kdebase-runtime? |
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| 02:57.17 | leo_rockway | Nitrostemp: I probably won't be able to help you with any compiling error, but if you don't say what the error is nobody will be able to help you. |
| 02:58.10 | Nitrostemp | sorry im waiting for the output in my commandline |
| 02:58.20 | leo_rockway | oh, okay |
| 02:58.30 | Nitrostemp | il need to pastbin it too |
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| 03:03.55 | Nitrostemp | here we go |
| 03:03.58 | Nitrostemp | http://pastebin.ca/1979303 |
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| 06:46.22 | circlez | Do KDE apps run in fluxbox? |
| 06:47.20 | Sho_ | circlez: sure |
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| 08:05.43 | CuBeW0rK | hi all! I've just updated to kde 4.5.2, and one of my favorite features is missing: in a folderview applet, if I mouse over a directory, it won't open it in a small box |
| 08:05.56 | CuBeW0rK | have I turned off maybe something, or is that feature missing now? |
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| 08:13.57 | CuBeW0rK | ok, I've found it, though the preview button is missing |
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| 09:24.49 | simion314 | hi, i am testing kubuntu 10.10 on my alptop ATI xpress200m and the experience is so bad in comparisson with kubuntu 10.04 with same KDE version, is there a bug in the new drivers? i tried disabling all effects(blur transparency,) i let on only the basic ones |
| 09:25.18 | simion314 | i do not know if i shoud try downgrading xorg or maybe trying to install a latest driver |
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| 09:29.47 | Damnshock | simion314: maybe you should try to contact kubuntu |
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| 09:29.58 | Damnshock | and check if they changed the graphics driver |
| 09:30.14 | Damnshock | what driver are you using? free one? closed one? |
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| 09:34.02 | wilhart | how do i alt-tab without the twin view screen 2 |
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| 09:40.47 | simion314 | Damnshock: i use free driver, and i feel that kubuntu has few user and not so tech one |
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| 09:42.50 | ksinkar | is there any sub-project withing KDE that targets embedded applications? |
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| 09:43.36 | simion314 | Damnshock: theu upgraded xorg from 1.7.6 to 1.9.0, |
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| 09:52.07 | Damnshock | simion314: I don't know if there's been a regression in performance with the free drivers |
| 09:52.08 | Damnshock | :S |
| 09:52.18 | Damnshock | or in the kernel |
| 09:53.51 | Damnshock | simion314: after a quick search it seems there is some kind of problem with kubuntu and ati cards |
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| 09:57.50 | Torch | simion314: try #kubuntu |
| 09:58.32 | simion314 | treefern: i will try that, i currently waiting from ubuntu-x chanel |
| 09:59.22 | simion314 | sorry i meant Torch |
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| 10:00.56 | simion314 | i think is xorg related, i has same problem in arch, but i had to remove it, I hope that i could use new versions of GNU/Linux with my video hardware, it would be a pain to stick with the old ones |
| 10:02.33 | simion314 | 2 years ago when i bought the laptop all worked great, i could install proprietary drivers, i had a linux sticker on it, but it becamed obsolite in a few mounths |
| 10:04.19 | Damnshock | simion314: a linux sticker? where did you buy it? |
| 10:04.29 | Damnshock | by the way.. why don't you try the closed drivers? |
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| 10:09.26 | simion314 | Damnshock: ATI droped support for the card, in Romania almost all laptops come with linux, almost all people will install Windows on them but this is other story |
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| 10:17.31 | Damnshock | simion314: ati dropped support? crap :S |
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| 10:17.50 | Damnshock | simion314: at least you can buy laptops without windows |
| 10:17.57 | Damnshock | I can't do that here in Spain |
| 10:17.57 | xaphir | simion314: what card is it |
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| 10:24.35 | lioux | FreeBSD 8.1-STABLE , KDE 4.5.2 - I am trying to write a searchprovider desktop entry for www.dealextreme.com. The url looks like this "Query=http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.1st_word 2nd_word 3rd" So you see, the fields are separated with spaces rather than standard '+'. I can't use "Query=http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.\\{1} \\{2} \\{3}" because dx |
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| 10:25.00 | lioux | 'dx:1' would imply 'http://www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.1%20%20' which is incorrect |
| 10:25.02 | lioux | Any ideas? |
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| 10:28.07 | Mike1 | is there a way to decrease/increase display brightness in smaller steps? |
| 10:28.18 | Mike1 | KDE does it in really huge steps by default |
| 10:28.24 | Mike1 | at least on my Thinkpad X201 |
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| 10:41.56 | Damnshock | Mike1: /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness |
| 10:41.59 | Damnshock | check there |
| 10:43.29 | Mike1 | mhh, yes, pretty bad steps =( |
| 10:43.31 | Mike1 | levels: 2 3 4 7 9 11 13 17 20 24 28 32 40 50 66 100 |
| 10:43.40 | Mike1 | I would like something like 80% |
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| 10:45.45 | Damnshock | Mike1: I'm sorry :( |
| 10:45.58 | Damnshock | Mike1: you could check the brightness level of you monitor though |
| 10:46.25 | Mike1 | itâs the built-in LCD ⦠;-) |
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| 11:26.58 | simion314 | xaphir: sorry for delay, i have a laptop with ati xpress 200m, it works bad in kubuntu 10.10 with kwin i had not tried compiz yet |
| 11:29.05 | simion314 | the free video driver for this card are preaty bad, no susspend and resume, it would be cool if i could install latest kde on the Debian lenny, then i could enjoy good drivers(proprietary) with the latest goodies from kde |
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| 11:35.37 | Kalidarn | hmm korganizer every time it fetches my ics files from my gmail account it changes the colors |
| 11:35.47 | Kalidarn | is there a way to prevent this? |
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| 11:36.34 | Kalidarn | on login akonadi fetches a new one (i find that the gmail connector is simply too buggy and anyway only allows me one calendar which is not useful) |
| 11:36.49 | Kalidarn | so i'd rather a read only calendar that actually works (which it does) except it changes the colors of all my meetings :P |
| 11:37.14 | Kalidarn | akonadi apparently doesn't keep the color setting |
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| 12:08.17 | Kalidarn | hmm i'm having trouble signing or encrypting mail with kgpg and kontact, i can decrypt mail that was already encrypted |
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| 12:08.48 | Kalidarn | what's the best way to set up gpg for KDE I'm using Kubuntu 10.10 |
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| 12:08.55 | Kalidarn | i asked in my distro channel but nobody seems to know |
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| 12:09.05 | Kalidarn | i dont have any problems with thunderbird |
| 12:10.15 | annma | #kontact Kalidarn |
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| 12:10.52 | Kalidarn | unfortunately googling around i find HEAPS of bugs that weren ancient and aren't what im looking for :P |
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| 12:16.11 | annma | Kalidarn: did you use KUbuntu previously? |
| 12:16.18 | annma | previously 10.10 |
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| 12:31.54 | Mamarok | zz_Kalidarn: you need to install kleopatra |
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| 12:47.32 | namektran | Hello can someone help me with kopete |
| 12:47.48 | ChrisBuchholz | Hey guys. I am looking to really try kde out, but i wonder. Which distro should i choose to get the best possible experience? |
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| 12:48.31 | cb400f | kubuntu is the only major distro officially sporting kde 4.5 so far |
| 12:48.38 | cb400f | fedora should be out in a matter of days |
| 12:48.44 | namektran | When i open my inbox in kopete its open konquer but i want it to use firefox O: |
| 12:48.50 | cb400f | and there's an opensuse 11.3 reloaded with 4.5 |
| 12:49.09 | cb400f | so pick your poison :-) |
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| 12:49.39 | cb400f | namektran: you set firefox as the default browser in systemsettings -> default apps ? |
| 12:49.55 | namektran | cb400f: yes i did |
| 12:49.55 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: but i bet the experience is not upstream kde - they must have tweaked and modded kde, right? |
| 12:50.20 | namektran | cb400f: everything use firefox as default except kopete |
| 12:50.44 | westmi | ChrisBuchholz, not much |
| 12:51.00 | ChrisBuchholz | westmi: hmm okay |
| 12:51.01 | cb400f | they all have a bit of branding, patching and tweaking I guess.. theoretically that should make the experience better :-) |
| 12:51.01 | westmi | looks and feels the same as pclos |
| 12:52.14 | ChrisBuchholz | hmm okay |
| 12:52.28 | ChrisBuchholz | gonna try kubuntu then |
| 12:53.38 | westmi | I'm runnung kubuntu right now, and I am very happy with it |
| 12:55.32 | ChrisBuchholz | westmi: sounds great |
| 12:55.34 | ChrisBuchholz | ;) |
| 12:56.11 | namektran | When i open my inbox in kopete its open konquer but i want it to use firefox, heelp :D |
| 12:56.59 | Mamarok | namektran: change the default browser in the System Settings |
| 12:57.19 | namektran | Mamarok: i did but it still dotn want to work |
| 12:57.24 | ChrisBuchholz | btw., how is it with Google Chrome / Chromium and KDE? Will it blend, i will it look really awkward? |
| 12:57.27 | namektran | dont* |
| 12:57.31 | Mamarok | namektran: check the file associations |
| 12:57.49 | Damnshock | namektran: did you close kopete and started it again? |
| 12:57.51 | Mamarok | ChrisBuchholz: no, it will not, since it is not respecting desktop themes |
| 12:57.51 | westmi | seems to work good |
| 12:57.57 | westmi | chrome |
| 12:58.02 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: in my opinion, it still looks awkward |
| 12:58.08 | namektran | Mamarok: how do i do that, im new :D |
| 12:58.08 | westmi | i've got that, also :) |
| 12:58.15 | namektran | Damnshock: yes i did |
| 12:58.19 | ChrisBuchholz | Hmm yeah. And there is no theme available for it or something? |
| 12:58.30 | Damnshock | to check file associations go to the systemsettings |
| 12:58.57 | Mamarok | namektran: in the System Settings -> File associations, check if the default application for html and other web specific files is set to firefox, you have some pointing to konqueror |
| 12:58.58 | namektran | Damnshock: ok |
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| 13:00.03 | Torch | ChrisBuchholz: talk to the chrome people. nothing we can do about it... |
| 13:00.23 | ChrisBuchholz | Oh, i must ask! Is there a KVim or something for KDE? A graphical Vim app? |
| 13:00.31 | ChrisBuchholz | Torch: i dont blame you - i asked ;) |
| 13:00.33 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: I'd love that |
| 13:00.38 | namektran | Thanks is working now :D |
| 13:00.46 | Torch | ChrisBuchholz: kate has a vim mode |
| 13:00.47 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: there is "vi mode" on the kde editors |
| 13:00.55 | ChrisBuchholz | Torch: chrome doesnt do good on gnome either. Scrollbars and font/+size is all wrong |
| 13:00.58 | Damnshock | although it's not the same |
| 13:01.11 | Torch | ChrisBuchholz: what i wanted to say is that chrome is totally off topic here. |
| 13:01.18 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: Vi? not vim? |
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| 13:01.27 | Damnshock | vi, not vim |
| 13:01.29 | ChrisBuchholz | Torch: cool! i'll try kate then |
| 13:01.33 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: okay |
| 13:01.40 | namektran | thanks u all :d i g2g |
| 13:01.54 | cb400f | ChrisBuchholz: you'll "cheat" yourself if you're a toolkit purist :-) |
| 13:02.12 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: if i do what, you say ? :D |
| 13:02.27 | cb400f | refusing to use gtk apps in kde is a bad idea... just like refusing to use qt/kde apps is a bad idea for gnomers |
| 13:02.36 | cb400f | if you want the best apps you have to mix |
| 13:02.50 | Damnshock | cb400f: that's debatable |
| 13:03.06 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: so you think i should use gvim in kde? |
| 13:03.07 | Damnshock | who says firefox is better than konqueror |
| 13:03.10 | Damnshock | for example I mean |
| 13:03.12 | Damnshock | ;) |
| 13:03.22 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: I use vim under console |
| 13:03.26 | Damnshock | *konsole |
| 13:03.45 | cb400f | e.g. gimp or inkscape are unquestionably the best apps in their field :-) |
| 13:03.56 | svuorela | just like krita is the best app in its field |
| 13:04.05 | Realmkeeper | Damnshock: I must admit, I do prefer Firefox over Konqueror... though, I eagerly await Rekonq's 1.0 version. |
| 13:04.31 | cb400f | similarly it would be difficult to find better gtk apps than scribus, marble, k3b etc. for the same job |
| 13:04.32 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: i did that in gnome also, but then i started to use gvim because it adds really cool features! Like completion shows up in a floating box, you can resize splits with the mouse, you dont cut the line-numbers when copy/pasting and so on and so on |
| 13:04.50 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: but i must say, konsole is possibly the coolest terminal emulator i have ever used! |
| 13:05.00 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: i see. |
| 13:05.38 | cb400f | I'm starting a crusade against toolkit puritism :-) |
| 13:07.04 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: you can get those things on simple vim |
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| 13:07.24 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: not from a text-based terminal emulator no |
| 13:07.24 | Damnshock | besides, if you use the mouse you are not a true vim lover |
| 13:07.26 | Damnshock | ;) |
| 13:07.29 | Realmkeeper | cb400f: You against webkit, too? :) |
| 13:07.31 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: yes, you can |
| 13:07.37 | Damnshock | I've done it |
| 13:07.39 | Damnshock | ;) |
| 13:08.04 | ChrisBuchholz | Damnshock: I beg to differ - resizing splits with commands i awful! But other than that - using vim? Keep your hands on the keyboard |
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| 13:08.37 | Damnshock | well, once you are used to |
| 13:08.44 | Damnshock | it's fine on the keyboard |
| 13:08.57 | cb400f | Realmkeeper: the only thing I'm against is people excluding themselves from using half of the linux applications for wrong reasons :-) |
| 13:09.25 | Damnshock | cb400f: well, I'm against people who belives my reasons are what they are thinkig |
| 13:09.27 | Damnshock | thinking |
| 13:09.51 | Damnshock | maybe my reasons not to mix different toolkits are different from what you think |
| 13:09.57 | Damnshock | although I do use mixed toolkits |
| 13:09.58 | Damnshock | ;) |
| 13:10.02 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: the reasons i maybe would prefer a kde app for a gnome app if i used kde, was because of the integration |
| 13:10.20 | Damnshock | ChrisBuchholz: that might be a good reason for example |
| 13:10.24 | ChrisBuchholz | but of course, if there are no alternatives, you cannot just exclude |
| 13:10.41 | Realmkeeper | cb400f: I read, and re-read your reply, but still don't understand it. "excluding themselves from using half of the linux applications for wrong reasons"? |
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| 13:11.18 | ChrisBuchholz | Would be nice to play with Qt once again, actually. About 4 years last time i touch Qt from a developer point of view |
| 13:11.27 | ChrisBuchholz | i hear it is getting REALLY nice |
| 13:11.39 | cb400f | naturally you should always prefer native apps if they're about equally good.. but you just shouldn't exclude non-native apps which are clearly better or only exist in a different toolkit |
| 13:12.02 | Realmkeeper | Ah, okay. |
| 13:12.14 | ChrisBuchholz | cb400f: i totally agree. Also, with gvim, i guess it doesnt matter since i always use vim i fullscreen mode, so i wouldnt even get to use any of the GUI :P |
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| 13:12.50 | cb400f | with oxygen-molecule or gtk-oxygen-engine you hardly notice you're using gtk apps anyway :-) |
| 13:13.13 | cb400f | until you trigger a filedialog or something |
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| 13:13.47 | Damnshock | well, the only gtk app I use regulary is firefox |
| 13:13.51 | Damnshock | because of the vimperator extension |
| 13:13.57 | Damnshock | otherwise I'd use konqueror or rekonq |
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| 13:15.57 | Realmkeeper | cb400f: Well, actually, (4.4.3 - so don't know about 4.5) buttons are still Gnome(ish) and same with file saving view. |
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| 13:16.32 | Realmkeeper | cb400f: But, that said, I do use Gnome apps if they are better. |
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| 13:18.32 | frojnd | I have a question. In my distro I've installed only kde-base. But now I don't have volume control icon in the tray. How is it called? So I can intall it? |
| 13:18.46 | cb400f | kmix |
| 13:18.48 | frojnd | tnx! |
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| 13:27.31 | xenoterracide | Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: |
| 13:27.32 | xenoterracide | klauncher said: Error loading 'kmailservice %u'. |
| 13:28.11 | xenoterracide | anyone have any ideas on why that error would occur? when trying to send an email to a mail adress from konsole |
| 13:28.47 | annma | xenoterracide: is it a new install? |
| 13:29.05 | xenoterracide | no |
| 13:29.16 | annma | so it happned suddenly? |
| 13:29.34 | xenoterracide | idk about suddenly I think it's been broken for a couple of weeks |
| 13:29.44 | xenoterracide | I very rarely use mailto functions though |
| 13:30.17 | xenoterracide | kioclient exec https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=%t&su=%s&%u # my default mail client |
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| 13:36.37 | frojnd | Does anyone know where in kde I can change keyboard layout? I have to do setxkbmap si from terminal, each time I get into kde |
| 13:38.01 | urkud | frojnd: in systemsettings |
| 13:38.15 | urkud | frojnd: AFAIR, "input devices", keyboard |
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| 13:41.00 | frojnd | Is it possible I don't have "input devices" in the system settings? |
| 13:41.00 | bluesceada | hey, why does kde scatter all these .directory files in my folders |
| 13:41.04 | frojnd | blind me |
| 13:41.07 | frojnd | found it |
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| 13:41.11 | bluesceada | is there a way to save the folder settings at a central spot?! |
| 13:41.17 | bluesceada | why wouldnt it ? |
| 13:41.41 | bluesceada | its becoming more and more windowsish like Thumbs.db in windows is .directory in kde... |
| 13:41.47 | bluesceada | but it's a bad approach?! |
| 13:42.05 | ahiemstra | you can set it to only save global settings |
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| 14:35.18 | Tasser | I'm compiling kdebindings - which flags for compiling th ruby bindings only? |
| 14:35.38 | Tasser | hm. |
| 14:35.40 | Tasser | /tmp/kdebindings/src/kdebindings-4.5.2/ruby/korundum/src/krubypluginfactory.cpp:56:51: error: âSTR2CSTRâ was not declared in this scope |
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| 15:13.12 | get | hi all |
| 15:14.08 | get | i need to execute some scripts at normal logout of kde before the systems shuts down (backup with rsync) |
| 15:14.24 | get | is there any place where i can specify my scritp in kde4 ? |
| 15:14.46 | Damnshock | get: there is |
| 15:14.52 | get | greaT! |
| 15:15.07 | get | and where,? in systempreferences? or somewhere? |
| 15:15.15 | Damnshock | get: I just don't remember where exactly |
| 15:15.26 | Damnshock | :S |
| 15:15.34 | get | i was looking for a while on sysprefs, but i didnt find it |
| 15:15.46 | get | btw |
| 15:15.51 | get | kde4 rocks |
| 15:15.52 | get | xD |
| 15:15.58 | Damnshock | hahha I agree |
| 15:16.08 | get | i like it very |
| 15:16.08 | Damnshock | I believe there's a place where you set your scripts |
| 15:16.12 | Damnshock | to run at login or logon |
| 15:16.24 | get | ye i guess also so |
| 15:16.33 | get | on kde3 there was |
| 15:17.03 | get | thats the only thing i left now, to perform some scripts before the kde tries to shutdown the entire pc |
| 15:17.46 | get | so it does an incremental backup to an external hdd, and then once finshed, it can poweroff. |
| 15:18.18 | Damnshock | as far as I know |
| 15:18.23 | Damnshock | .kde4/shutdown |
| 15:18.27 | Damnshock | should do the trick |
| 15:18.34 | Damnshock | I mean, scripts into that folder |
| 15:18.59 | get | ahhh |
| 15:19.03 | get | mmm |
| 15:19.08 | get | lemme check if exists. |
| 15:19.30 | get | nope |
| 15:19.39 | get | i guess i have to create it |
| 15:19.42 | Damnshock | sure |
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| 15:22.24 | annma | in System Settings there is a section named "Startup and Shutdown" |
| 15:23.52 | get | Damnshock: it was it! |
| 15:24.03 | Damnshock | awesome :) |
| 15:24.06 | get | great! |
| 15:24.23 | get | i have now kde4 at work too |
| 15:24.24 | get | xD |
| 15:24.26 | get | nice |
| 15:24.29 | Damnshock | there's more to kde4 that meets the eye |
| 15:24.38 | Damnshock | I do have kde4 at work too |
| 15:24.40 | Damnshock | :) |
| 15:24.47 | Damnshock | I've had solve a couple of things though |
| 15:24.49 | get | i prefer work on kde as default |
| 15:24.59 | Damnshock | like it not remembering the resolution |
| 15:25.01 | Damnshock | on the external monitor |
| 15:25.03 | get | its more faster for me then gnome or something |
| 15:25.14 | Damnshock | to me it's not faster |
| 15:25.19 | Damnshock | but I do my work faster |
| 15:25.24 | get | yes! |
| 15:25.26 | get | me to |
| 15:25.32 | get | i meat that |
| 15:25.54 | Fanfare | Q: How to make use of plasmawidget keyboard? Any doc/tut somewhere? |
| 15:25.57 | get | i prefer to user dolphin for file operations, including the Fn keys to access everywhere |
| 15:26.16 | get | plasmawidget ? |
| 15:26.19 | get | plasmoid? |
| 15:27.05 | Fanfare | sure plasmoid keyboard... |
| 15:27.31 | get | great idea |
| 15:27.45 | cb400f | there are a couple of widgets.. "plasmaboard"? |
| 15:27.51 | get | + touchscreen should be awesome |
| 15:28.06 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plasmaboard?content=101822 |
| 15:28.16 | Damnshock | get: fn keys? what'd you mean? |
| 15:28.36 | cb400f | there's also one or two virtual keyboard thingies in playground in svn iirc |
| 15:28.55 | Damnshock | cb400f: nice for touchscreens |
| 15:28.59 | get | Damnshock: to use dolphin as sftp client, or something like |
| 15:29.15 | Damnshock | get: I do use that as well |
| 15:29.32 | Damnshock | although I sometimes prefer to mount the partition remotely |
| 15:29.53 | get | so i open dolphin, press F3 to open a new tap |
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| 15:30.03 | get | then i press F6 to insert url |
| 15:30.08 | get | such as sftp://host |
| 15:30.10 | get | and go |
| 15:30.11 | get | xD |
| 15:30.12 | Fanfare | cb400f: one plasmoid "keyboard"ships with kdeplasma... i nerver got it to work like kvkbd... so i try ur link ... |
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| 15:30.38 | Damnshock | didn't know that shortcut |
| 15:30.39 | Damnshock | nice :) |
| 15:30.41 | cb400f | oh, ok.. never tried any of those things.. just noticed they exist |
| 15:30.50 | Fanfare | cb400f: i only have a tablet (pen input though) |
| 15:31.15 | get | the shortcuts are very nice, to work faster ;) |
| 15:31.23 | get | also the Kompose efect |
| 15:31.25 | get | like OSX |
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| 15:31.45 | get | the cascade for window change |
| 15:32.07 | get | but thats just to impresionate those collegues who are looking behind me |
| 15:32.08 | get | xD |
| 15:34.27 | get | Damnshock: wanna see a screen? |
| 15:34.54 | Damnshock | sure! go for it |
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| 15:37.19 | get | http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/9997/valhallapre2.png |
| 15:37.21 | get | ;) |
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| 15:42.26 | get | Damnshock: ? |
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| 15:45.48 | Damnshock | get: sorry about that |
| 15:46.08 | get | about what |
| 15:46.08 | Damnshock | get: nice :) |
| 15:46.13 | Damnshock | not being here ;) |
| 15:46.16 | get | doesnt matter dude |
| 15:46.17 | get | xD |
| 15:46.22 | get | i know |
| 15:46.31 | get | your probab. in bg |
| 15:46.40 | Damnshock | I usually don't have a thing on the desktop |
| 15:46.45 | Damnshock | just a background |
| 15:46.47 | Damnshock | and that's all |
| 15:47.03 | get | really, i dont need nothing alt+f2 rulez |
| 15:47.04 | get | xD |
| 15:47.17 | get | <-- off for a bit |
| 15:47.34 | get | brb |
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| 15:51.21 | Nece228 | hi, prepare for a traditional monthly question |
| 15:51.33 | Nece228 | is there any reason to delay 4.5.3? |
| 15:52.07 | annma | it's coming soon |
| 15:52.20 | annma | tarballs are being tested |
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| 15:52.31 | Nece228 | oooooooh |
| 15:52.32 | Nece228 | yes |
| 15:52.48 | Nece228 | thanks for answers |
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| 16:01.39 | murphd | Where do i go to add a new application to the menu in KDE? (I want to be able to run a certain program through WINE and it doesn't have one setup by default) |
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| 16:02.46 | annma | right click on KDE menu and you'll get an editor |
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| 16:03.15 | murphd | ahh thx |
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| 16:54.23 | jcolby | I am running KDE 4.5.2 compiled from source and I am missing the activities icon in the cashew, does anyone have any idea why? |
| 16:55.37 | annma | what about a right click on the desktop |
| 16:55.46 | annma | do you have an Activity menu here? |
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| 17:01.20 | get | Damnshock: returning to the shutdown script placed into ~/.kde4/shutdown, |
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| 17:01.51 | get | now i have placed a script inside, witch performs a backup with rsync to an externad hdd |
| 17:02.19 | get | once this script finishes, kde will continue the shutdown process isn't it? |
| 17:02.57 | annma | yes |
| 17:03.21 | get | great ^^ |
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| 17:03.50 | get | so i only have to click on the shutdown button, poweroff the screen and can leave office. |
| 17:03.58 | annma | yes |
| 17:03.59 | get | the script will mailme once finished |
| 17:04.00 | get | xd |
| 17:04.02 | get | great |
| 17:04.20 | get | anyone wants the script? |
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| 17:07.27 | get | rsync with 1 full and 5 incremental backups |
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| 17:24.45 | Sanitoeter | hi there, is there a way to preselect a filename for ksnapshot? I'd like to use something like ksnapshot --region --output=/tmp/screenshot.png |
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| 17:31.58 | acemo | when i start my laptop, first i get a popup error from korganizer thats trying to fetch my calendar. besides that, i'm getting 2 notices from kmail thats trying to fetch my emails. Is there any way to let these programs only try to fetch stuff when i'm actually connected to the internet? |
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| 17:42.58 | rug_ | How do I disable kopete from displaying a 'growl' notification and pop-up when there is an incomming message? |
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| 17:43.50 | puchu | hi |
| 17:44.02 | puchu | when will kde 4.5.3 be released? |
| 17:44.03 | pinotree | rug_: settings â configure notifications |
| 17:44.10 | rug_ | pinotree: thanks |
| 17:44.16 | pinotree | puchu: a couple of days |
| 17:45.01 | puchu | pinotree: but the release shedule says this |
| 17:45.01 | puchu | November 2nd, 2010: Release KDE 4.5.3 |
| 17:45.41 | rug_ | pinotree: everything is disabled under notifications. Behaviour -> Events -> Notifications (right?) |
| 17:45.42 | puchu | pinotree: so the date isnt true? |
| 17:45.44 | pinotree | don't think so |
| 17:46.01 | pinotree | rug_: no, i said settings â notifications |
| 17:46.19 | rug_ | pinotree: sorry wrong settings tab |
| 17:46.30 | pinotree | not a tab, the main kopete menu |
| 17:47.10 | rug_ | pinotree: got it thanks |
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| 17:47.32 | Muzer | how does KDE know where to search for .desktop files and where can I add additional locations? |
| 17:47.55 | pinotree | which kind of .desktop files? |
| 17:48.09 | pinotree | (aka: what is the real issue, what do you want to do?) |
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| 17:48.54 | Muzer | pinotree, oh, sorry, the ones for the K menu |
| 17:49.07 | Jason09 | hi guys, I have been trying to compile kdepimlibs using kdesrc-build, but cmake keeps returning "Nepomuk not found" even though kdesupport and kdelibs all installed fine. |
| 17:49.15 | Jason09 | any suggestion? Thanks |
| 17:49.22 | pinotree | Muzer: `kde4-config --path xdgdata-apps` |
| 17:49.30 | Muzer | I think Gentoo stores them in a different place for some apps (eg KDE3 ones from the sunset overlay) because the kmenu isn't picking them up |
| 17:49.31 | Muzer | ah, thanks |
| 17:49.40 | pinotree | Jason09: simple: you compiled kdelibs without nepomuk |
| 17:50.00 | pinotree | check the cmake output of the kdelibs compilation, and see which dependencies you missed |
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| 17:50.17 | Muzer | pinotree, so how do I edit that path? kde4-config only seems to be able to print them. |
| 17:50.26 | Jason09 | pinotree: thanks |
| 17:50.37 | pinotree | Muzer: as above: what do you want to do? |
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| 17:51.28 | Muzer | expand the search path to /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/ (and maybe others, haven't really gotten around to searching yet) |
| 17:51.40 | Muzer | *to include |
| 17:52.01 | pinotree | (sounds like gentoo? doesn't it do that automatically?) |
| 17:52.09 | Muzer | doesn't appear to, oddly enough |
| 17:52.22 | Muzer | perhaps I need to do something clever with eselect |
| 17:52.23 | pinotree | (#gentoo-kde for that, in case) |
| 17:52.25 | Muzer | that's a possibility |
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| 17:52.52 | Muzer | can't see any promising-looking eselect module... |
| 17:53.28 | Muzer | anyway, thanks for the link, I'll go there... |
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| 18:04.17 | puchu | pinotree and when is the exacte date of the release for 4.5.3? |
| 18:04.40 | pinotree | usually is on wed or thu |
| 18:04.55 | puchu | pinotree are you a dev? |
| 18:05.00 | pinotree | yes |
| 18:05.01 | Jason09 | pinotree: what would be the switch to compile kdelibs with nepomuk? i can't seem to find such switch using google |
| 18:05.11 | puchu | pinotree thanks for the inod |
| 18:05.12 | puchu | info |
| 18:05.22 | pinotree | (what would change if i were not?) |
| 18:05.44 | puchu | pinotree no i mean thursday or wednesday |
| 18:05.46 | puchu | nothing |
| 18:05.50 | puchu | would change |
| 18:05.55 | pinotree | Jason09: there's no switch: if you have the dependencies, the nepomuk libraries are compiled automatically |
| 18:06.03 | puchu | but btw what are a developing for kde? |
| 18:06.11 | pinotree | that's why i suggested you to read the cmake output of the kdelibs compilation |
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| 18:06.31 | Jason09 | pinotree: ok. thanks. I will see what i can find. |
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| 18:09.41 | pinotree | puchu: previously, maintaining okular for 3 years; now stuff here and there |
| 18:10.10 | Akie9 | hi. how is the offivcial kde component to configure network interfaces called? thx. |
| 18:10.48 | Akie9 | resp. required gentoo package |
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| 18:12.01 | wilhart | where do i select so twinview display 2 doenst count in main monitor |
| 18:12.05 | wilhart | main monitor alt-tab |
| 18:12.18 | wilhart | so my projector display 2 doesnt come in alt-tab |
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| 18:12.52 | wilhart | did you understand |
| 18:12.53 | wilhart | ? |
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| 18:13.06 | wilhart | i have 2 displays i want to disable display 2 from alt-tab |
| 18:13.33 | Akie9 | hhm noone? |
| 18:13.40 | thiago | I don't think it's possible, wilhart |
| 18:15.37 | wilhart | thiago, sad.... |
| 18:15.47 | puchu | pinotree yeah okular is really nice |
| 18:15.47 | wilhart | i think there's a command in kde |
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| 18:32.30 | beer | Hi |
| 18:32.43 | Guest19531 | does anyone know ksnapsho well? |
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| 18:33.23 | beerss | becouse sometime it does not start when I press the "printscreen" key on my keyboard |
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| 18:42.58 | styx_ | Is knetworkmanager working with kde-4.4.5? |
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| 18:48.39 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 18:49.56 | acemo | can i configure kde so that its not trying to fetch stuff from the internet (like email and my calendar) when i'm not even connected to any network at all? |
| 18:50.21 | rindolf | /home/shlomif/Music/mp3s - the view for this directory in Konqueror's "mp3s" view profile keeps getting reverted from "Details" back to "Icons". I tried saving the profile and it did not help. I'm on kdebase4-workspace-4.5.74-0.svn1190490.2mdv2011.0 . |
| 18:50.42 | rindolf | acemo: you can make the fetching explicit/ |
| 18:50.45 | rindolf | acemo: you can make the fetching explicit. |
| 18:50.58 | rindolf | acemo: that's what I do in KMail. |
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| 18:55.12 | acemo | rindolf: you mean only fetch it when i manually click the send and receive button? |
| 18:59.15 | rindolf | acemo: yes, that's what I meant. |
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| 19:00.58 | acemo | rindolf: was afraid so.. |
| 19:01.16 | acemo | i've been thinking of making a library to see if there is a network connection |
| 19:01.36 | acemo | if there is an internet connection* |
| 19:02.41 | acemo | step 1) is there a network connection? step 2) can i ping one domain from <list>? (list will be put in a config file) step 3) add a cache, so you won't ping every single time an application wants to know if your online or not |
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| 19:07.37 | kde__pepo | acemo, are you sure that function isn't already implemented by another library? |
| 19:08.15 | acemo | kde__pepo: i have no idea.. but i'd love to see that functionality being used in kmail, korganizer and kopete |
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| 19:21.39 | rindolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.43 | rindolf | And hi all. |
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| 19:23.54 | annma | try Dolphin |
| 19:24.12 | annma | and what do you mean by "keeps getting reverted" |
| 19:24.27 | annma | and is it only this folder? |
| 19:24.43 | troy | waves at annma, just because :) |
| 19:25.17 | annma | hey troy :) |
| 19:26.08 | annma | rindolf: did you see my questions |
| 19:26.22 | rindolf | annma: now I did. |
| 19:26.29 | rindolf | annma: OK, I'll try Dolphin. |
| 19:26.51 | annma | and explain better what's happening and if it's only this folder |
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| 19:28.07 | rindolf | <annma> and what do you mean by "keeps getting reverted" ==> 1. I want it to be "Details". 2. I start <<konqueror --profile "mp3" |
| 19:28.07 | rindolf | >> - it's in "Icons" mode. 3. I set it back to "Details". 4. I overwrite the view profile. 5. I start konqueror --profile "mp3s" again. 6. It's back to "Icons", which I don't want. |
| 19:28.32 | annma | not even need to override the profile |
| 19:28.45 | annma | it should keep the view by itself |
| 19:28.53 | annma | check in dolphin please |
| 19:29.04 | annma | and then tell me if it's only this folder |
| 19:29.09 | rindolf | <annma> and is it only this folder? ==> it's not only this dir, there's another offending directory in the a different tab in the same view profile. |
| 19:29.29 | annma | forget profiles |
| 19:29.37 | annma | so please try dolphin |
| 19:30.11 | rindolf | annma: I tried - it tells me "File or folder /home/shlomi does not exist" - I recently renamed it from /home/shlomi to /home/shlomif. |
| 19:30.32 | annma | hmm |
| 19:30.57 | annma | does nto seem a kde probelm |
| 19:31.10 | annma | but more some permission or such |
| 19:32.34 | rindolf | ./dolphinrc:HomeUrl=file:///home/shlomi |
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| 19:34.45 | Nece228 | hi |
| 19:34.55 | Nece228 | are you going to release 4.5.3 at 23:59? |
| 19:35.41 | rindolf | annma: OK, after I fixed the HomeUrl in Dolphin, I browse to /home/shlomif/Music/mp3s/ , change it from Icons to Details, exit Dolphin and then when I browse to it again, it's Icons again. |
| 19:35.47 | annma | maybe or tomorrow Nece228 |
| 19:35.54 | Frankey | hi - i have a question concerning KPageWidget + designerqt: is it (and how) possible to include the widget into the designer? |
| 19:35.56 | Nece228 | why is that so? |
| 19:36.04 | annma | because we're human Nece228 |
| 19:36.05 | Nece228 | in fact changelog is already made in kde.org |
| 19:36.30 | annma | are you waiting for the tarballs? |
| 19:36.44 | Nece228 | for the official announcement |
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| 19:36.55 | annma | why? |
| 19:37.53 | Nece228 | because of typical waiting. as soon as announcement hits kde.org, arch linux packagers can release it immediantly since they already have them packaged |
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| 19:38.09 | puchu | annma do u build the tarballs for the 4.5.3 release? |
| 19:38.20 | annma | no |
| 19:38.52 | annma | I don't have nor the CPU nor the bandwith to upload |
| 19:39.36 | annma | puchu: we have a dedicated guy who does that and tests them all |
| 19:39.39 | annma | huge work |
| 19:39.54 | puchu | for shure |
| 19:40.00 | Nece228 | then how you know that 4.5.3 can be released tomorrow? |
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| 19:40.16 | annma | well it can be released any time |
| 19:40.27 | puchu | Nece228 do you build kde from source? |
| 19:40.47 | puchu | if not the tarballs wont help you much ;) |
| 19:41.01 | Nece228 | no i dont |
| 19:41.11 | rindolf | annma: any idea about my problem? Seems like a bug. |
| 19:41.25 | annma | rindolf: seems like you messed some stuff more |
| 19:41.36 | annma | if it's a bug tell me steps to reproduce |
| 19:41.46 | annma | rindolf: comeon, you know the drill by now |
| 19:41.57 | rindolf | annma: OK, I'll try in a new user. |
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| 19:48.20 | rindolf | annma: it works fine in a new usre. |
| 19:48.22 | rindolf | user. |
| 19:48.24 | rindolf | Also in Konqueror. |
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| 20:36.50 | neo32 | ok |
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| 21:43.11 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 21:43.17 | rindolf | Oh, annma's not here. |
| 21:43.22 | rindolf | Sucks. |
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| 22:33.29 | wilhart | i have 2 displays i want to disable display 2 from alt-tab |
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| 22:36.47 | bluesceada | how can i manage/change my desktop activities |
| 22:36.56 | bluesceada | one activity is like .... unaccessable |
| 22:37.29 | bluesceada | because all mouse/button events dont give me the option to access the activities settings |
| 22:40.15 | EffBee_ | bluesceada: Press Alt + D, then Alt + S |
| 22:40.30 | EffBee_ | To enable the mouse actions |
| 22:40.35 | bluesceada | o.O magic, thanks |
| 22:40.43 | EffBee_ | Alt + D, then Alt + A to access activities |
| 22:40.52 | EffBee_ | Or just click the Cashew in the corner |
| 22:41.56 | junkDawgie | Meta+q works also for me |
| 22:43.18 | bluesceada | hm i guess i better not try that |
| 22:43.29 | bluesceada | yeah there was no "cashew" aswell, somehow |
| 22:43.39 | bluesceada | sometimes the activity seem to be still a bit glitchy |
| 22:43.45 | bluesceada | *activities |
| 22:43.51 | EffBee_ | Is this on 4.5? |
| 22:44.42 | wilhart | i have 2 displays i want to disable display 2 from alt-tab |
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| 22:49.41 | BarkingFish | Evening all. Anyone about to do a quick bit of help? I'm running KDE 4.4.3 on Mandriva 2010.1 and my volume control has disappeared completely out of my system tray. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it back - anyone know how to add items to the system tray please? |
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| 22:58.39 | BarkingFish | Is anyone actually active in here? |
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| 23:00.13 | Fusselwurm | nope, we're all dead |
| 23:00.37 | BarkingFish | Fusselwurm: I was beginning to wonder :) |
| 23:01.25 | BarkingFish | It seems this channel goes very quiet maybe about 10pm my time, i guess it's later or earlier other places, so not everyone is available : |
| 23:01.46 | BarkingFish | I just need a little help with my system, if you can assist please :) |
| 23:02.27 | BarkingFish | My volume control has gone from my system tray in KDE 4.4.3 on Mandriva 2010.1 - and I can't work out how to put it back or get it to start in the system tray. |
| 23:02.43 | BarkingFish | Do you know how to fix this please? |
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| 23:12.16 | Fusselwurm | (BarkingFish: sry cant help you, Im at an old KDE3.5 right now... no joke) |
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| 23:20.03 | bluesceada | EffBee_: sorry for late reply, no it is still 4.4 |
| 23:20.12 | bluesceada | 4.4.5 to be exact |
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| 23:22.03 | EffBee_ | bluesceada: 4.5 changes the way Activities are accessed and managed |
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| 23:22.10 | bluesceada | ok |
| 23:22.20 | bluesceada | i never had any real use for them, just was playing around |
| 23:22.21 | EffBee_ | The ZUI is replaced with a pop-up bar similar to the Add Widgets dialog |
| 23:22.28 | bluesceada | what is zui ? |
| 23:22.35 | EffBee_ | The Zooming User Interface |
| 23:22.38 | EffBee_ | When you click Zoom Out |
| 23:22.42 | bluesceada | what is that? ^^ |
| 23:22.54 | bluesceada | ah i never had a clue what that should be used for (and it was also glitchy ..) |
| 23:23.05 | EffBee_ | Yeah |
| 23:23.11 | bluesceada | yeh i might try it then with 4.5 ... |
| 23:23.12 | EffBee_ | They got rid of the clumsy ZUI |
| 23:23.25 | bluesceada | what is it used for anyway? |
| 23:23.41 | EffBee_ | What, activities or the ZUI? |
| 23:24.59 | bluesceada | both |
| 23:25.05 | bluesceada | especially ZUI |
| 23:25.13 | bluesceada | because it doesnt seem useful in the current state |
| 23:25.20 | bluesceada | for me at least |
| 23:25.49 | EffBee_ | Activities let you manage multiple workspace configurations, currently just widgets but will soon also contain session management capabilities |
| 23:26.03 | bluesceada | hm |
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| 23:26.13 | bluesceada | i mean, activities are always applied to all desktops, right? |
| 23:26.14 | EffBee_ | I use one to post Todo stickies on |
| 23:26.27 | bluesceada | why not be able to have different activities on different desktops? that would be useful |
| 23:26.38 | EffBee_ | And another to access a number of folders through Folder View |
| 23:26.43 | EffBee_ | bluesceada: You can |
| 23:26.52 | bluesceada | umm, how? in 4.4 ? |
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| 23:26.56 | EffBee_ | Yes |
| 23:27.10 | bluesceada | and how is it supposed to work |
| 23:27.11 | EffBee_ | I think it's under Desktop -> Workspace in 4.4 |
| 23:27.20 | bluesceada | because it does change for all in its default way :/ |
| 23:27.34 | bluesceada | ? |
| 23:27.39 | bluesceada | system settings? |
| 23:27.44 | EffBee_ | Yes |
| 23:28.02 | bluesceada | dashboard: show an independent widget set ?? |
| 23:28.10 | EffBee_ | No |
| 23:28.26 | bluesceada | there is only dashboard and form factor |
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| 23:28.37 | EffBee_ | My bad, it's Desktop -> Multiple Desktops |
| 23:28.37 | bluesceada | form factor desktop or netbook |
| 23:28.45 | bluesceada | ahhh i se |
| 23:28.48 | bluesceada | okay thanks |
| 23:30.08 | bluesceada | hm somehow glitchy :/ |
| 23:30.23 | bluesceada | i made a panel on the top to be able to quickly change activities |
| 23:30.29 | bluesceada | but it seems it doesnt always do well |
| 23:30.45 | bluesceada | trying to set multiple desktops to the same activity it worked for 3 of them |
| 23:30.49 | bluesceada | but not more somehow |
| 23:31.08 | EffBee_ | Activity management is somewhat improved in 4.5 |
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| 23:31.33 | bluesceada | two of my desktops cant be changed to any activity, four of them are ok |
| 23:31.59 | EffBee_ | One rule of thumb is to have the widgets unlocked when you manage activities |
| 23:32.03 | bluesceada | seems like somebody hardcoded 4 desktops or whatever.. |
| 23:32.15 | bluesceada | uh, yeh i have that |
| 23:32.39 | bluesceada | but hopefully this wont be for 4.5 ? |
| 23:33.41 | bluesceada | always having widgets unlocked kind of wastes space and clean look etc. |
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| 23:35.04 | blu | hello |
| 23:35.33 | blu | I'm writing this ssh wrapper script and im trying to change the tab name for a konsole but it just doesnt seem to work properly |
| 23:35.54 | blu | using qdbus, the name changes back to the previous one after like a split second |
| 23:36.06 | blu | using xterm values, it doesnt seem to work properly either |
| 23:36.12 | blu | anyone has any ideas? |
| 23:36.39 | blu | I'm on gentoo, KDE 4.4.5 btw |
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| 23:38.42 | bluesceada | hmm sorry no |
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| 23:39.06 | bluesceada | check if there was a bug and maybe fixed in 4.5 ? |
| 23:40.40 | blu | k, cheers |
| 23:41.35 | bluesceada | someone knows a slim/compact firefox theme that fits in kde / doesnt manipulate the widget |
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| 23:43.20 | Kalidarn | hmm, i've set up gpg-agent and gpg.conf kmail can decrypt mail but whenever i sign no matter what i do i still get "Signing failed: Bad passphrase" and don't get asked for my passphrase |
| 23:43.41 | Kalidarn | ive tried googling around but all i can find is old bugs referring to upstream problems which would have been fixed by now |
| 23:44.04 | Kalidarn | i'm using kmail 1.13.5 on KDE 4.5.2 |
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| 23:54.48 | bas89 | shouldnât KDE SC 4.5.3 be released right now? |
| 23:55.05 | bas89 | in some minutes it is 23:59 UTC =) |
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