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00:09.03aziezah_sabardude u want this http://www.1filesharing.com/download/1JE0D7ZA/psyBNC2.3.1_4.rar
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01:00.48Goliathhey
01:00.50Goliathi am trying to burn an iso file with k3b to a dvd-5. It says limit exceeded by 92,6 mbs. Is there anyway to make it use more space?
01:02.40Goliath>?
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01:13.16legodudehi everyone, I am writing a custom Dolphin action and when I select multiple files and run the action, I am getting multiple copies of teh program I want to run, each with one of the files as command line argument instead of one instance with multiple files as command line arguments
01:13.25Goliathhey i get an error from k3b when i try to burn a dvd saying, unable to start a new session
01:13.27Goliathhttp://pastebin.archlinux.fr/426187
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01:33.36tstellarHi, I'm trying to build kwin from source, and I'm getting an error: Unknown CMake command "macro_log_feature" are these commands defined somewhere else in the kde source tree?
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02:50.29ronsunnhelp!
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02:54.12graphitemasterso I moved from gnome to KDE
02:54.20graphitemasterand I cannot find out how to install themes >.>
02:54.54graphitemasteralso is there a way I can remove those orbs in the corner of all of my 6 monitors
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02:55.04graphitemasterthey're annoying.
02:55.11graphitemasteron one it's okay, but all six?
02:59.18enderw99does anyone know why svg files aren't thumbnailed in dolphin.
02:59.19enderw99?
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03:08.03kstarI just broke my right ctrl key. Can I map the menu key / right alt key to ctrl in some way?
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03:45.32PhilRodkstar: use xmodmap
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03:48.03PhilRodkstar: you may also need xev to find the keycode of the key you want to remap
03:48.19kstarPhilRod: Thanks!
03:48.26PhilRodhopefully that's enough info to get you going with man and google - I have to go sleep now
03:49.02PhilRodoh, the other thing is that you can make the rebinding happen each time you start kde with a script in ~/.kde/env
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04:39.28lord_darwinmy kde taskbar just disappeared
04:39.53lord_darwinso did my background
04:45.07Sho_lord_darwin: Alt+F2, plasma-desktop
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10:02.50alumnoola?
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10:20.05inkbottleIn konqueror, when the window is not full screen, I have difficulties to see the address bar; well I can see the address bar but not the address in it cause it's too narrow
10:20.18inkbottleis there any tip about that?
10:26.02shal3rJovie says "Hey bitch, you got a new email, yo!" by default. How to edit that?
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10:39.02ImmerDerBesthi there
10:39.58ImmerDerBestam i blind or just kde can't set different transparency at desired window by pressing some modifier and scrolling with mouse ??
10:40.47ImmerDerBestsearching furiously in control plugins pane in kde configcentre
10:43.47mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: you can.
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10:44.46ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: ok .. would tell me some string which is part of exact name of key combo in key shortcuts settings pane?
10:44.47mikeplus64Try system settings -> window behaviour -> window behaviour ( hehe ) -> titlebar actions and/or window actions
10:45.40mikeplus64Under 'Titlebar Actions' you can set the 'Titlebar wheel event' to 'Change Opacity'
10:46.27mikeplus64The stuff under 'Window Actions' is pretty self-explanatory.
10:46.35ImmerDerBestaaahhh . blooooody hell .. tru dat. but iz a highly despicable act of ignorancy and malicious attempt to confuse us (you, me, ..) in once
10:46.39ImmerDerBestthanks
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10:47.00ImmerDerBesti would never search in there
10:47.05mikeplus64oops
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10:53.39GuySofthi all - is there a way to actually get this to be fixed?: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217607
10:54.20ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: one more Q: .. also can find a way to configure shortcut for switching between windows **from all desktops** - eg alt+tab does it for current desktop
10:54.30ImmerDerBest**can''t ^^ typo
10:54.40ImmerDerBestthanks
10:55.29mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: system settings -> window behaviour -> task switcher -> change the combobox with the label "List windows: " to "All Desktops"
10:56.45ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: can i have it on two standalone combos? i had in kde3 alt+tab for current desktop and meta+tab for from all desktops
10:57.53JucatoSystem Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Global Keyboard shortcuts -> Component: KWin
10:57.54mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: You can have two task switchers, configure the one under the "Main" tab to do one thing and one under the "Alternative" tab to do the other
10:58.10ImmerDerBestaah. thanks again
10:58.13Jucatono need for double double
10:58.36ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: btw, are you seeing something weird of this new way of setting it up?
10:58.38mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: What Jucato said instead, lol
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10:58.57mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: not really. It's oddly organised but it's livable.
10:59.11ImmerDerBestok
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11:00.30ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: i'm asking hence i'm using KDE since 1935 and although i'm not big DE masturbatorist i'd like to assume, that i should be more then familiar with them
11:01.07mikeplus64ImmerDerBest: then just explore it :p
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11:03.16ImmerDerBestmikeplus64: poor exploring is for weak .. real man moans on IRC you know
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11:52.07WubbbiHey :) I have a problem. I am using KDE on a Netboot with a screen of 1028x600 ... Kde is working very well but there is one issue. Sometimes, a windows goes out of range. That means it goes out of my screen. Even when I try to maximate it, it is skill cut on the right side. How to configure it that way so that it is fir in my screen and cant get out of there?
11:52.30WubbbiI have Kde 4.5.3
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12:35.20biberaohello
12:36.01biberaohow can i forbid people from moving icons on desktop and dont allow copying stuff to the desktop?
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12:37.22annmayou need to use the Kiosk features
12:37.59annmahttp://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Kiosk/Introduction
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12:38.28annmaI think it is more detailed for the desktop somewhere else
12:38.40annmathe above is a general overview
12:40.49biberaook thanks
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12:56.20Nece228hi
12:56.26Nece228i cant open
12:56.39Nece228file in the archive which has cyrrilic symbols
12:57.01Nece228it gives me that error:
12:57.02Nece228Could not open file:///tmp/kde-simas/arkOnNtN3//005. ���������������. ����� �., 1982.djvu
12:57.18Nece228even when i extract the file it still doesnt open
12:57.39Nece228in comparison in gnome, the file name is also broken but at least i can open that file
12:57.45Nece228in kde i cant even open it
12:58.08hellnestrename the file
12:58.29hellnestfor temporary so you can extract the content
12:58.34Nece228when i try to rename and press enter it gives same error as above
12:58.49Nece228i can extract the file
12:58.56Nece228but it gives same error
12:59.07Nece228when i want to open that extracted file
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13:00.34Nece228im assuming that some bad encoding is used to name the file
13:00.39Nece228but how to get around it?
13:00.54Nece228other than installing gnome?
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13:02.50smogeWhy Thunderbird is faster then KMail???
13:02.58smogeI prefer KMail, but I don't get this....
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13:03.39smogeit has something to do with gmail or ssl ??
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13:07.39knaveofclubsHow can I get rid of this message box popping up when the mouse cursor if over the KDE-button?
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13:09.35hellnestNece228: well.. try on other hand? or maybe rename it from Command line
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13:10.17hellnestsmoge: Sometimes i prefer to user Thunderbird also, because it can manage multiply email address. But for personal / business use i prefer use kmail for single account. It's not that slow i think
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13:26.05Nece228hellnest: but thats too difficult to do for every file
13:26.38hellnestNece228: hmm.. what version of KDE u use? already try to install localization for your native language?
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13:27.15Nece228hellnest: kde 4.5.3
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13:27.26Nece228i didnt install anything, since i want english version of kde
13:28.00hellnestlocalization doesn't mean using your own language as GUI, but at least it will support your fonts
13:28.21hellnestit's not a bug actually
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13:30.25Nece228how to install them then?
13:30.56annmawith you r package manager look for cyrillic
13:31.40annmaor greek maybe
13:31.45hellnestNece228: go to system setting and choose country/region
13:31.47annmano
13:32.12annmahellnest: that won't get packages installed
13:32.29hellnestannma: Ouh.. >.<"
13:32.36Nece228theres only us english in system settings
13:32.45annmaNece228: forget systemsettings
13:32.54annmawhat are the characters exactly?
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13:33.06annmaif they are cyrillic then install cyrillic fonts
13:33.11annmaask your distro channel
13:33.15Nece228ok
13:33.23Nece228i installed xorg-fonts-cyrillic
13:33.40Nece228is this going to do the trick?
13:34.12Nece228i will restart x server
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13:34.18annmax11-font-cyrillic
13:34.26annmaand so on
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13:34.53Nece228still doesnt work
13:35.29annmacan't yo uput the archive somewhere online,
13:35.40annmacan't you put the archive somewhere online?
13:35.41hellnestmaybe try to pastebin the font
13:35.43Nece228ok
13:37.00Nece228http://www.mediafire.com/?pfz4kkk7938i5g4
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13:39.19annmaArchive:  energ-alternativnaya-energiya-006.zip
13:39.20annma<PROTECTED>
13:40.22Nece228yeah
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13:40.28Nece228i get the same
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13:41.58annmaI get a rtf
13:42.02annmawhere is this from?
13:42.12annmai can unzip it though manually
13:42.16Nece228i uploaded that file
13:42.22Nece228i can unzip it too
13:42.22annmauploaded?
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13:42.30Nece228but does it open?
13:42.31annmaI mean where did you get it
13:42.36annmaopen with what
13:42.40Nece228from russian website
13:42.57annmawhat should open it? what app?
13:43.02Nece228openoffice
13:43.02annmawhat russian website?
13:43.07annmaopenoffice???
13:43.11Nece228i dont remember
13:43.17annmaso where is the kde problem
13:43.19Nece228yeah open office writer
13:43.28Nece228but it doesnt let me open that file
13:43.43annmawhat "it"
13:43.48annmaKDE is not a program
13:43.48Nece228heres error:
13:43.51annmano
13:43.51Nece228The file /tmp/kde-simas/arkyyKWj1//006. ������ ���� ��������� �������������������, 2009.rtf could not be loaded, as it was not possible to read from it.
13:43.53Nece228Check if you have read access to this file.
13:44.00annmaSTART from the beginning
13:44.14annmawhat KDE program do you use
13:44.37annma"KDE" or "it" does not open any program
13:44.44annmaany file
13:44.47Nece228theres no difference what program i use
13:45.00annmawhat when you unzip in konsole then
13:45.03Nece228i get the same error if i try to open with kwrite openoffcie writer or anything else
13:45.14annmaso
13:45.20annmawait
13:45.25annmayou mixe it all!!!!
13:45.41annmaI thought it was about the archive first
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13:45.51annmaof course this file cannot be open
13:46.23annmaand in fact I advise you to check what files you open
13:46.45RaulinMy SPDIF optical out isn't working in flash (firefox) but in other apps such as Amarok etc, any idea why?
13:46.58annmaon another OS you could have serious problems with such files Nece228
13:47.49Nece228well when i use command unzip ./filename then it suggests to overwrite or rename file, i press rename and rename it then that file opens
13:48.08Nece228but with kde i cant rename it
13:48.36annmaunzip in konsole?
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13:48.47Nece228yeah
13:48.59annmaI don't get a rename proposal
13:49.17annmaannma:~/trial-zip [qt-kde trunk]$ unzip energ-alternativnaya-energiya-006.zip
13:49.19annmaArchive:  energ-alternativnaya-energiya-006.zip
13:49.20annma<PROTECTED>
13:49.26annmathat's it
13:49.31Nece228thats because you need to extract that file more than once
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13:49.41annmareally?
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13:49.53Nece228when you try to unzip it again it will say that file exists and suggests to overwrite or rename file
13:49.56khaleel5100hi, i have debian sid, kde 4 and lxvd, when i have to start another (2nd user's) gui interface, i do startx -- :1 but that opens lxde desktop, what do i do to run another kde ?
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13:50.06annmawhy would you unzip it again
13:50.20Nece228to get an option to rename it
13:50.31annmasounds very fishy Nece228
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13:51.05Nece228ah whatever
13:51.23Nece228now try to delete that extracted file with dolphin
13:51.29Nece228it wont let you delete that file
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13:53.27annmaI do such things in terminal personally
13:53.41annmarm cp mv
13:53.58Nece228but still you cant delete that file with dolphin right?
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13:54.37annmano it says it doe snot exist
13:54.40annmadoes not
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13:54.59annmaissue a bug report and try to attach a smaller file
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13:55.07Nece228ok
13:55.14Nece228for now the solution is something like:
13:55.23annmait's an extreme case of a fucked up file anyway
13:55.24Nece228sudo apt-get remove kde; sudo apt-get install gnome
13:55.31annmacome on
13:55.36annmain terminal do
13:55.55annmamv 006<use tab to complete> broken.rtf
13:56.00Nece228i have dozens of those files and i dont have time to remove them using terminal
13:56.05annmaoowriter broken.rtf
13:56.09annmareally?
13:56.15Nece228yeah
13:56.19Nece228downloaded yesterday
13:56.28annmawhat about a script?
13:56.35annmaanyway if you prefer installing gnome just do it
13:56.51annmaso check if you have a small file and attach it to bug report
13:57.00Nece228in reality, i can just install file-roller and use it to extract files instead of ark
13:57.15Nece228that does the trick
13:57.34annmabelieves in terminal and scripts
13:57.50Nece228i also like terminal
13:58.02Nece228but when i need to get the job done i dont have time for terminal
13:58.03annmahow where those files generated?
13:58.28annmahaving the processus on how they were done would help the bug report
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14:01.38Nece228ok i will start now gnome and see how it will perform those actions
14:01.48pdomineyafter being a kde user I now find I'm having to find an alternative, so disappointed am I in the adoption of akonadi   for kmail
14:02.35annmapdominey: too bad
14:02.51annma1) toobad you don't understand akonadi
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14:02.59pdomineyone of the very reasons I went with kmail years ago, was the fact that it didn't rely on a database
14:03.02annma2) too bad your distro packaged it badly
14:03.12annma3) too bad you reduce KDE to kmail
14:03.12pdomineythis really is a step backwards
14:03.16annmareally
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14:03.21annmathink a bit
14:03.35koraylokerWhere can i find the release date of 4.5.4?
14:03.40annmawe deliberately go backward in making our software
14:03.53koraylokerAn educated guess may work as well :)
14:03.55annmakorayloker: look on techbase.kde.org
14:04.35annmakorayloker: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.5_Release_Schedule
14:05.08koraylokerannma: thanks!! it's soon...
14:05.52annmadon't expect too much difference with 4.5.3
14:06.10pdomineyannma: I understand akonadi I also understand very clearly the UNIX philosophy, and I think this does a disservice to it
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14:06.24koraylokerI'll fix some translations and I don't want to patch them in the packages so I have to hurry before Dec it seems...
14:06.28annmasure pdominey
14:06.47annmait's weird that it's approved by enterprizes though
14:06.57annmaoh korayloker
14:06.58annmayes
14:07.22annmanice that you help KDE with translations, huge work, unnoticed
14:07.42cb400fimho akonadi is more unixy than the old stuff... with akonadi everything is split into separate parts doing a limited specific task
14:07.59cb400fand doing it well.. hopefully... soon...
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14:08.17pdomineyannma: MS Exchange is 'approved' by enterprises, it doens't make it any better for it's approval
14:08.25annmaanyway pdominey
14:08.28annmado what you want
14:08.39annmaalso #akonadi maybe butbe constructive
14:08.49pdomineyjust providing user feed back
14:08.56annmasaying "this is bad" is not very constructive
14:09.06annmaprovide to tthe right channel then
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14:10.08Nece228yup
14:10.11Nece228in on gnome
14:10.14annmain #akonadi you'll have the developers pdominey
14:10.17Nece228it performs much better
14:10.23annmagood Nece228
14:10.39Nece228it lets me to delete those broken files
14:10.42annmaas long as you have a solution
14:11.05pdomineywell isn't KDE (kmail & kaddressbook) the adopter of akondai ? This reaction to the adoption of it, not a complaint of akonadi it's selft
14:11.21Nece228also instead of ????????????? gnome shows 005. Âåòðîýíåðãåòèêà, but at least i can open those files
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14:11.47khaleel5000hi, how do i enable root logins on debian kde wm
14:12.06annmaNece228: the bug report is to be done against KFileDialog
14:12.12annmadid you issue it already?
14:12.16Nece228ok thanks
14:12.21annmakhaleel5000: #debian
14:12.24Nece228not yet
14:12.38annmaOK I'll talk to the devels when it's done
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14:13.31Nece228annma: so you will investigate that bug?
14:13.54annmaof course
14:14.09Nece228thanks bro :)
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14:14.20annmasis even
14:14.21annma;)
14:14.58Nece228hmm, so probably i will report that bug in the evening
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14:15.06Nece228because soon i will have to go
14:15.13annmaalso I have the zip now
14:15.16annmaOK
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14:16.12Nece228ok, bye
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14:20.54shal3rJovie says "Hey bitch, you got a new email, yo!" by default. How to edit that?
14:21.06annmalol
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14:21.22annmaare you joking?
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14:26.26BajK_Will  KDE work and especially Compositing work on a Pentium 4 3GHz with 1,5 GB Ram and just 64MB of graphics ram
14:27.07cb400fkde will work just fine.. the effects depend on the gfxcard and driver
14:28.10annmado you need compositing?
14:28.18annmaif so, what for?
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14:28.42annmameaning: what's the main use of this machine
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14:29.33annmathe specs are high enough for KDE to run smoothly
14:30.04BajK_hm well smoothly.. this is my old pc and with two 24 inch monitors it was quite laggy :P but my mum has jost got a 19" monitor, so I think it will work fine (if it is not as laggy as the kubuntu installer...)
14:31.36annmaweird
14:31.37BajK_but I wont install the proprietary drivers. Ill just leave the open source onces because they cause less trouble and i dont think my mum will ever play 3d games :D
14:31.59annmaI never had 2 24 monitor but I had a 19 one and lower specs and it ran well
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14:32.04BajK_hm okay
14:32.14annmaand your mum won't need compositing
14:32.28annmashe'll browse the web and do mail, no?
14:32.29BajK_well speaking of compositing I mean nice little shadows and stuff :D
14:32.34annmamaybe some office work
14:32.38BajK_yep^^ thats why I installed her kubuntu
14:32.48BajK_because it saves me a lot of trouble and money (virus scanners, etc)
14:32.53annmaIbet she does not care about shadows
14:33.11BajK_but we'll see, just started the installation^^
14:33.34annmaI used to build kde4 ond run it on a lower spec machine BajK_
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14:33.46BajK_her old PC is also quite sluggish on kubuntu although I don't know the exact speciications
14:33.58BajK_but the old pc has an empty cmos bat and problems and .. well so why not give her my old one ;)
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14:34.22annmain any case either the machine is old and you need a light wm or it's OK and you can get a full desktop environment
14:35.22BajK_i dont exactly what there is in. I am not sure whether it is my old old celeron 1,2 GHz or the "newer" celeron 2,8 or if my dad also put in a P3 which I dont think
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14:36.11BajK_but here I attached the pc to my second 24 inch monitor, so I guess it will run more smoothly once I attach the 19" monitor to it
14:36.43BajK_but yet I dont know at all, the last time I had KDE running on that machine was Kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.4 I guess^^
14:37.06BajK_or even 4.3
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16:37.01vale_arna84hello there! I've just installed gentoo on my laptop and I've emerged kde 4.4.5. When I start konqueror opening the home folder it it opens an infinity of windows! Is this a known bug?
16:37.26annmano
16:37.30annmanot at all
16:37.38annmais it a new user?
16:37.47annmaI mean a new .kde for example
16:37.58vale_arna84is a fresh install
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16:38.57vale_arna84it is also anew .kde4 of course
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16:40.22annmaso please open a terminal and start Konqueror from there
16:41.07annmawhat happens then?
16:41.12annmaonly 1 window?
16:41.28vale_arna84no, infinity of windows!
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16:41.53sysop1hi
16:41.58vale_arna84and I can't stop them even with ctrl+X
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16:42.38annmavale_arna84: so you type "konqueror" in a terminal and it opens infinity of windows?
16:42.49annmaI suggest you ask Gentoo people maybe
16:42.52vale_arna84yes
16:43.03annma#kde-gentoo
16:43.22annmaI mean #gentto-kde
16:43.26annmadarn
16:43.29sysop1have a question about kmail. is there a way to pass the name of the filter or email address of the message to a program that is being called by a filter
16:43.33annma#gentoo-kde
16:43.35sysop1like you can with kate
16:43.35vale_arna84ok. Thanks guys
16:43.46annmavale_arna84: #gentoo-kde
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16:44.10sysop1I  googled around but not really sure what to search for?
16:44.19sysop1any hints?
16:44.51annmasysop1: #kontact maybe
16:45.02sysop1ok thanks. thats a start
16:45.14annmafingers crossed
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17:02.53Henson_Dcould someone help me verify something about Dolphin's behaviour?  Open up Dolphin, switch to columns view, then navigate with the keyboard.  Select a directory that has something in it using the arrow keys then hit the right arrow key to open it.  Now hit the left arrow key once .  Does the first item in the new column become selected?  Then hit the left arrow again, it should jump back to the...
17:03.08Henson_Dprevious column.  I'm trying to verify that this happens for someone else before I fill out a bug report.
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17:06.36ahiemstraHenson_D: I see that behaviour here, what is wrong with it?
17:07.12aseigoHenson_D: it would be great to check against the upcoming 4.6 betas that should be coming out in a few weeks
17:07.21aseigoHenson_D: since the column view has seen a bunch of work for 4.6
17:07.32Henson_Dokay, I'll hold off on the bug report until then
17:07.58einar77aseigo: s/weeks/days
17:08.07Henson_Dahiemstra: the problem is that to descend a directory you hit the right arrow once, but to ascend a directory, you have to hit the left arrow twice.
17:08.08einar77beta 1 shouldn't be that far off
17:08.42ahiemstraoh
17:08.45ahiemstrayou're right
17:08.50Henson_Dahiemstra: what should happen is that either the first item in the new column should be selected as soon as the column opens, or it should jump back to the previous column given a single right arrow press.
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17:09.22Henson_Deinar77: thanks for the info about the upcoming betas
17:09.49einar77IIRC the first one should be - pending compile issues, faults, etc, out by the end of this week
17:10.07Henson_Deinar77: excellent
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17:49.33jthomas_sbKDE 4.5.3, which colour controls the font colour in KRunner ? [alt][f2]
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17:52.55annmahmmm no idea
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17:56.01annmacan you control font colors?
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17:57.34aseigojthomas_sb: of the results? those follow the desktop svg theme
17:59.48jthomas_sbI'm using QtCurve and trying for a dark theme, but it really makes Firefox difficult.  I've found textboxes in Firefox (well, on websites) that seem to have 3 different controls for colours and one that I cannot pin down looks to be the same font colour as KRunner, so I thought I'd ask about that.
18:00.10jthomas_sbYes annma font colours can be controlled generally; within KRunner I am not sure
18:00.37aseigoah .. :) well, firefox doesn't use qt for rendering by default. there is an option to sync the colors of gtk+ apps with qt / kde ones in system settings, however
18:00.42aseigoyou could try turning that off
18:00.54aseigoit means you'll have to manage the colors of those apps (e.g. firefox) independently ...
18:00.57aseigobut .. there you go
18:01.03jthomas_sblemme rephrase: Firefox makes things difficult, and KDE has so many colour options that aren't always used for their intended purposes when people make themes
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18:01.55jthomas_sbto control GTk colours, I would need to install GNOME stuff that i'd rather avoid.  I'll just keep trying I guess.
18:02.07jthomas_sbthanks all
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18:06.11jthomas_sbaseigo "of the results?"  I didn't understand what you mean until just now.  no, i am trying to change the colour of the font that I type in KRunner, not the colour of the results
18:06.17mokolokojthomas_sb: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+(Firefox+Theme)?content=117962 try that :P
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18:07.41aseigojthomas_sb: ah, that color is just the standard text edit font
18:07.57jthomas_sbmokoloko i will try that again, thanks.  i know Firefox isn't native to KDE but its pretty a key app IMHO and I've tried GtkQt, QtCurve, and Firefox+Oxygen addon; none really seem to do it correctly, especially with darker themes
18:08.12jthomas_sb"test edit font" — checking for that now
18:08.53aseigojthomas_sb: some apps (and ff may be one of them? i don't know) are poor at dealing with dark themes
18:09.25jthomas_sbi believe that.  i don't see "text edit" as a font colour, did i miss something?
18:10.12aseigowell, it's not called "text edit font", but "View text"
18:10.39jthomas_sbyep, I've changed that one to white and it didn't affect the Firefox text box nor KRunner.  I didn't restart tho
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18:10.48aseigoloooooves krunner for being able to type "colors<enter>" and have the right control panel appear
18:11.05jthomas_sbthat is pretty slick!
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18:11.51mokolokojthomas_sb: have u tried the latest beta? it should support dark themes better :P other than that you could try some "dark" personas
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18:12.43jthomas_sbbeta of Firefox?  running 4b7 now...
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18:18.53mokolokojthomas_sb no i meant latest beta of that theme
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18:19.16mokolokoim running it with minefield(firefox nightly)
18:19.41jthomas_sbQtCurve?  I have not, mokoloko... using whatever Debian Sid offers, with some newer KDE due to the freeze in Debian.  I can wait I suppose, but thanks for the tip there
18:20.03jthomas_sbor do you mean the Firefox+Oxygen theme?
18:20.07mokolokoyeah
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18:45.22HandyGandyis kdeinit supposed to start nautilus?
18:45.54annmawhen?
18:46.51HandyGandyI was looking at processes saw nautilus running I checked it's parent and it was kdeinit.
18:47.15annmadid you start nautilus?
18:47.37HandyGandyNot directly.
18:48.03annmaso how did it start?
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18:48.11annmais it a fist installation?
18:48.15annmafirst
18:49.11HandyGandyNo it's an upgrade of Mint with KDE installed then KDE backports upgrade ( 4.5 ).
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18:50.11annmacheck with a new user
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18:56.39Richlvi just came upon a full konsole freeze scenario (KDE 4.3.5). i had sshfs mounted fs open in one tab. i pressed ctrl+shift+n to open a new one with that tab selected, and konsole froze. i could not open any new tobs or even new konsole instances anymore - nothing would happen. is this in any way better in later kde releases ?
18:56.49Richlvif not, would it be useful to report that ?
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19:03.33aseigoRichlv: yes, bugs.kde.org
19:04.15Richlvaseigo, even though i'm not sure whether it's any better in later releases, right ?
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19:07.30aseigoRichlv: hm.. 4.3.5 is quite old. try with 4.5 if at all possible.
19:10.50Richlvaseigo, i'd have tried if that was easy - no access to 4.5 at this point...
19:12.01aseigoRichlv: well, report it and it will (hopefully) get triaged by people on newer releases
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19:14.19Richlvaseigo, ok, thanks :)
19:17.19solifugusIs there a kde frontend to rdesktop?
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19:17.46pinotreesolifugus: krdc
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19:32.05Marchitoswhat about italian translation? how can i contribute?
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19:32.31annmacontact the Italian team
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19:32.37annmal10n.kde.org probably
19:32.51annmalook at it and subscribe to the mailing list
19:33.09Marchitosisn't there an irc for kde ita?
19:33.22annmano idea, look at the page
19:33.31Marchitosokay
19:33.34annmaalso the page should tell you what .po files are not assigned
19:33.46annma#kde-i18n in general
19:34.01annmaOK I have to go
19:34.37Marchitosthanks:)
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20:20.09pinchartlI've had lots of rendering issues with KDE under Gentoo. it started when I upgraded to 4.5.1 with a Qt 4.6.x. I've waited to see if it would be fixed with time but 4.5.3 with Qt 4.7.1 is still barely usable :-/
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20:20.52pinchartlthere are various symptoms, such as the splash screen not being replaced by the plasma desktop on login
20:21.14pinchartlor popup menus not being rendered, only the hallow around the menu is visible
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20:21.33pinchartlor kruler not being rendered (same issue, hallow visible)
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20:22.10pinchartlwhen rendering issues occur with popup menus, closing and reopening them a few times fixes the problem
20:22.33pinchartlwhen the plasma desktop is not rendered, logging off and in fixes it it as well
20:22.59pinchartlI can interact with the plasmoids, as their popup menus appear, so it's really a rendering issue
20:24.24pinchartlI got an Intel integrated GM45 GPU
20:24.46pinchartlI'm running a 2.6.36 kernel, the problem occured with previous kernel versions as well
20:25.20pinchartlsame for the X driver, I'm running 2.13.0 but previous versions were not better
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20:26.11pinchartlcould anyone help me with this really annoying issue ? I've endured it for 2 months at least
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20:27.01cb400ftalk to gentoo
20:27.26pinchartlcb400f: so it would be gentoo-specific ?
20:28.05cb400fyou think everyone is having those problems?
20:28.35pinchartlI know other gentoo users who do not have the problem
20:29.25pinchartlactually I don't know any user who have the same issue, regardless of their distribution
20:29.55cb400fthen you also know it's a local problem, and not a general kde problem :-)
20:30.27pinchartlare you telling me I should install gnome to check if it suffers from the same issues ? ;-)
20:31.04pinchartlit's a low-level rendering problem. it could be in the kernel, in mesa, in qt, in kwin, ...
20:31.22pinchartlI'm looking for help regarding how I can start debugging it
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20:46.03nascentmindHi. When I try to run amarok on fluxbox I am not able to hear any sound. Does it need any service to start for amarok?
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21:48.18jacktheripperwhat's the dbus signal for plasma to reboot the system cleanly ?
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21:49.37jacktheripperor not for plasma
21:50.04jacktheripperI just need to reboot a kde system cleanly.
21:50.10aseigojacktheripper: qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout <-- the three ints control what happens exactly (logout, reboot, etc)
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21:51.05jacktheripperthanks a bunch
21:55.08jacktheripperaseigo, I can't find any documentation for the 3 ints.
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21:58.22jacktherippernevermind, found a mailing list :/
21:58.33aseigothey are quite well hidden, yes. unfortunate. :/
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22:12.26sh4g0hello dudes, i have a problem with KDE en Kubuntu, i activate the effects, but when i restart mi laptop, the efects turn desactivated, one of you know about it?
22:13.29javier_sh4g0: using fglrx?
22:14.03sh4g0wathy? just KDE
22:15.21sh4g0but i installed compiz,  and when i installed thath the trubles start!
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23:05.17pinotreeJejem: please disable the public away messages, thanks!
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