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00:15.31argonelanyone know how to get kopete to stop playing a sound for an "incoming message in an active chat"?
00:15.43argoneli have it turned off but it still does it
00:18.20basslineri'm surprised about how usable kde4 finally got.
00:18.47basslineri never found it usable after all, but this is probably the first release i test that fits my needs.
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00:56.46jsmithI see there is very little space between the underscore for the keyboard shortcut and the border of the button, tab, or other widget
00:57.10jsmithis this controlled via a style or theme, or is it the c++ code of the app?
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01:15.12bucketheadGentlemen, Running a new arch install with 4.6b1. I'm not particularly fond of the font selections. Can you recommend something for me to learn about different options?
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01:30.11oneforallany one know a good tweet scheduler app?
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01:36.56aabrahamhallo
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02:05.45BigC_xaphir: sorry, i had to leave for a bit, but yes it as in opensuse
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02:10.02xaphirBigC_: I am seeing that Attachmate corp bought out Novell
02:10.21xaphirwhich means it looks like they own suse
02:11.12BigC_right now there is not enough information to know whether or not they will actually own the suse part of novell
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02:19.02boombatowerrunning 4.6b1, but kmail(2)? doesn't seem to want to start..I cleared out my settings and the akondi resource for my gmail account. anything else I should try>?
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02:26.03oneforallChoqok seen that but doesn't look like it does scheduled tweets :(
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02:33.39DistantStarI'm getting this strange taskbar "lumping" things on my computer. Without any explanation, here's the screen: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7765/snapshot3pt.png I'm not sure what caused this and what the problem is. I have no Compiz activated.
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02:35.14boombatowerhmm 4.6b1 loads quite a bit slower...wonder if it is just my setup
02:38.34BigC_did you disable desktop effects?
02:39.19boombatoweryea got kmail2 to load finally
02:39.57DistantStarBigC_: If that was for me, Desktop Effects are disabled, yes.
02:40.08DistantStarWell, is disabled.
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02:40.42BigC_plus you gotta remember its only a beta so expect beta.
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02:41.18boombatowerdoes gmail/cal/contacts etc integration with akondi and what not work in 4.6?
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02:42.06BigC_DistantStar: well, sometimes when that happens, if i openup another program, the taskbar fixes its self automatically
02:42.58BigC_and you can always restart kdm, buts thats probably not the best option
02:42.58DistantStarBigC_: I'm running KDE-4.4.5 though. And I have been opening numerous programs but it's not fixing itself.
02:43.09DistantStarRight
02:48.06BigC_have you right clicked on the taskbar and messed around with the settings such as the way their filtered?
02:48.49DistantStarBigC_: Nope. This happend after I have had Flash player opened for number of hours, listening to music and watching Mario games on them.
02:49.14BigC_possibly a flash problem?
02:49.53DistantStarI have had similar situation previously as this too but I do assume it's Flash the aggregate because after some hours of having them running, my taskbar becomes awry and I'm not quite sure how to fix them or where to begin.
02:50.04DistantStarBigC_: Yeah, probably
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02:50.55BigC_cause we ALLL know how flash "just works" wonderfully
02:52.20DistantStarHehe, yeah.
02:52.50DistantStarWell, I did close all of my browsers, and whatever I had opened in my task manager. But the problem persists.
02:53.32BigC_did you kill flash, it still may be working in the background
02:55.04DistantStarI assume npviewer.bin is Flash related? Then, yes. I could kill it.
02:58.05BigC_yes iirc thats flash
02:58.50DistantStarThe problem seems to be there still. Now, the windows are on top of each other. Odd this problem is. :P
03:00.28BigC_well, :S thats all i can think of that might be causing the problem
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03:06.29DistantStarI don't know anymore. I guess I could log out and log back in. What controls the taskbar in kDE? Is it like ktaskbar or something like that? Hm, no.
03:08.30DistantStarOh, interesting. If I switch workspaces and come back to the screen, the windows lists realigns. If I close an application, the windows becomes messed together.
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03:09.01DistantStarIt's a temporary fix.
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03:12.24BigC_huh, as in workspaces or activities?
03:13.48DistantStarIt may be called Pager in KDE. :| Workspaces is the name I would often use to switch one screen to another.
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03:17.13leo_rockwayis there a way to purge all the indexing strigi did and start all over?
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03:23.55leo_rockwaynvm, found it.
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03:56.39PhanthomCan someone help me troubleshoot an issue that has been plaging me for about 6+ months now, one of my partitions does not show up in media:/ , it also doesnt seem to get mounted at all. I dont think its a fstab issue as i have tried multiple different distributions with kde as well as kde 4 and higher
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03:56.55Phanthomany thoughts would be helpful
03:58.37BigC_do you have the right filesystem utilities installed like ntfs-3g or xfsprogs?
03:58.53Phanthomi believe so yes
03:59.01Phanthomntfs-3g is installed
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03:59.56BigC_is it ntfs formatted?
04:00.24Phanthompartially
04:01.23Phanthomi have a 1 750gb disk and one 1tb disk , the 750 one is giving me troubles
04:01.40Phanthomits partitioned like so
04:02.51BigC_are they 2 separate disks?
04:03.08Phanthomhttp://nopaste.info/7198621698.html
04:03.15PhanthomYes
04:03.45Phanthomformatting is not a option at all
04:05.16PhanthomHere is the full output http://nopaste.info/c09a35c703.html
04:05.17kdepepowhat makes you believe it is KDE related, if you cannot even mount it manually?
04:05.48Phanthomi never said i couldn't mount it manualy i said it doesnt mount at startup
04:05.59kdepeposo can you mount it manually?
04:06.19Phanthomyes, and when i do it doesnt display in media:/
04:06.42kdepepoThat's KDE 3, right?
04:08.22Phanthom3.5.10
04:09.44Phanthom...................thats what i thought
04:10.06kdepepomedia:/ is one of those things that are dropped in KDE 4, so I cannot check what it does... but can you display the partition after mounting when pointing the browser to the mount point?
04:10.57Phanthomsure, but not properly
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04:12.49Phanthomagain
04:12.52Phanthom...................thats what i thought
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04:18.55Phanthomits a ntfs partition btw
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05:45.32sresuUnder /usr/share/sounds/ which sound is for logout for KDE Workspace?
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07:43.36tatshhow do i make dolphinpart not show the +/- over icons on hover?
07:43.44tatshi used to have it off but i lost my ~/.kde
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09:47.16bocaneriUnder kde3, it's easy to create a new link to a URL directly on the desktop, just right-click and follow Create New... That doesn't happen on KDE4. What's the trick?
09:48.48emilsedgh_bocaneri: add a folder view widget. then right click on it
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09:52.33bocaneriI'm gonna hafta go to college to learn how to use kde4 :\ :sigh:
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10:48.05[mors]Hi gentes
10:48.16[mors]kde 4.5.1, kubuntu here
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10:48.35[mors]anyway to easily setup a dual screen wallpaper without having to split the file and assign to each screen ?
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11:00.41eagles0513875|2hey guys there is an error with a currency in kde
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11:00.58eagles0513875|2the maltese currency is no longer the maltese lira but the euro
11:01.14eagles0513875|2this is on kde 4.5.1
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11:43.18WalexSo there, why Why WHY do we have to haver MySQL for Akonadi?
11:43.43WalexHow to run Akonadi without MySQL?
11:44.13WalexIf 10 users are logged into a system, and all use Kontact, how many MySQL instances should be running?
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11:46.04TripleRhuhow can i get kde 4.6 on my fedora
11:46.37javier_TripleRhu: adding the appropriate repo
11:46.47WalexTripleRhu: perhaps the KDE-RedHat project has backports? But this is more of a packaging question appropriate for Fedora channels
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12:11.46oobeHi how can i re-enable ctl alt backspace in kde
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12:14.04annmaWalex: ask in #akonadi please
12:14.32annmawhen 10 users are logged into a system, won't this system run MySQL
12:14.34Walexannma: ah yes, I did switch to #Kontact which was good.
12:14.40annmaOK
12:15.05Walexoobe: look at the special keybindings, and reenable server keys.
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12:15.36oobeok thanks Walex is that in system settings
12:15.58Walexoobe: "keyboard layout" and "advanced" and "Special keys" for example.
12:16.45annmaoobe: although you should not need ctrl+alt+backspace
12:17.11Walexoobe: and of course "Key sequence to kill the X server"
12:17.39Walexannma: that's highly optimistic considering how enormously buggy are several X drivers (typically Nouveau, "intel".
12:17.52annmawhy do you use it then?
12:17.57annmaI use my distro driver
12:18.31annmaI never have to kill X thanlk
12:18.34annmathank God
12:19.03annmaeither you choose to instal unstable stuff or you need to report to your distro
12:19.04Walexhere with ULTS10 on a laptop with an "intel" GPU X locks up or does funny things pretty often
12:19.08annmakilling X is not normal
12:19.17annmaintel what
12:19.20annmaI have intel
12:19.33annmait's not normal at all
12:19.35WalexI had to disable AIGLX and Composite and now it is a bit better.
12:19.54annmain KDE if your X server does not support effects then they are disabled
12:20.08annmabut anyway you won't kill X because of that
12:20.09Walexannma: nah, there are known bugs and they are fixed in some "testing" level package.
12:20.18annmaknown bugs!!!
12:20.49annmanot sure what thia ULTS10 is but I would not try it
12:20.54Walexannma: AIGLX and Composite as implemented in most versions so far of the X server and X drivers are gigantic, complicate, unreliable hacks.
12:20.55annmathia/this
12:21.02annmabah
12:21.06annmanot
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12:33.49guzuhello all
12:34.12guzui have slackware 13.1 installed and i use xfce as de
12:34.22guzu(low end machine)
12:35.08guzuthe problem is, phonon doesn't work with the sound card, it complains it's not working, even if it's working fine in c-a-f6
12:35.23annmawhat do you need phonon for?
12:35.33annmaif you use xfce
12:35.57annmawhat program exactly "complains"
12:36.01annmaguzu: ^^
12:36.08guzuannma, it starts by default, i'd like to sop it, but i have no idea how. it may be because of kdm
12:36.20annmaask your distribution then
12:36.38annmaand disable it
12:36.56annmaif you don't use a KDE program with sounds you don't need phonon
12:37.50guzuannma, how can i stop it?
12:37.53annmayou did not tell yet how does it complain though
12:38.06guzuannma, dragon player, amarok, etc
12:38.08annmaif you explain first what exactly happens
12:38.19annmawell if you use all that you need phonon
12:38.25annmawhat distro?
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12:38.32guzuannma, slackware 13.1
12:38.41annmaask them please
12:38.50guzuannma, i don't have sound in any other player (xine, mplayer)
12:38.59annmawhy so?
12:39.19annmamaybe you have a badinstallation then
12:39.21guzuannma, i have no idea. i see messages like unable to access /dev/dsp
12:39.33annmaask your distro, not KDE problem
12:40.24guzuannma, correct, the question was about phonon
12:40.32guzuhow to stop the thing
12:40.46guzuand prevent it from starting ever again,
12:40.48guzuor
12:40.51guzumake it work
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12:44.45Mamarokguzu: if you use dragonplayer and amarok you need phonon
12:44.59guzuMamarok, correct
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12:45.12Mamarokand it works quite fine here, so maybe you should check alsamixer and if you have all necessary codecs installed
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12:45.38Mamaroklooks like an installation problem, you should check with the slackware people
12:46.48guzuMamarok, annma thank you
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12:49.06Mamarokguzu: you are welcome :)
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14:10.01ppman|lapI bombed those (and a couple other dotfiles) out for a user, but he's still missing his menus
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14:16.06I_C_Wienersis there a way to give a single folder/file a different picture then other folders or does this work globally only?
14:17.24annmaright click the Properties and change the folder icon
14:17.32annmait's a user setting
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14:18.38I_C_Wienerswhat about files?
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14:25.24eluhi all, i was just wondering, if the dolphin tabs are special and only coded for dolpghin, or if they are standard qt-tabs?
14:25.24annmafiles icons are their mime types
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15:21.51eagles0513875hey guys is anyone around?
15:22.07annmasure
15:22.10eagles0513875i have a quick question about internationalization and a countries currency
15:22.19annmayes
15:22.21eagles0513875i noticed as i went to go change the currency to the maltese one
15:22.32eagles0513875and its still showing the maltese lira which has been defunct since january 2008
15:22.37eagles0513875we now use the euro
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15:22.53annmawhat kde version is it?
15:23.05eagles05138754.5.1 on kubuntu 10.10 64bit
15:23.41annmalet me think on where is this currency set
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15:25.54annmaI don't know right now but I'll fix it
15:26.17annmathe Maltese lira is to be replaced with Euro
15:26.21annmaright?
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15:29.13annmaeagles0513875: the MLT lira does not exist at all anymore?
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15:30.45annmaeagles0513875: ping
15:30.56annmaanswer me or issue a bug report please
15:31.09annmaI can fix it if I am sure I get it right
15:31.54AlexZionhi everyone, I have a simple question ..., How to setup the system , to use a global proxy ?
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15:32.35annmain SYstemsettings there's a network section with proxy settings
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15:32.41annmaAlexZion: ^^
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15:33.22AlexZionyeah , I know , I saw it , but if I put use automatic proxy settings , doesn't works with vidalia and polipo for example ....
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15:33.42AlexZionand if I should set manually , I dont' know how ? ... :D
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15:38.21eagles0513875hey annmasry had to relocate to my netbook which is the one on kubuntu and kde 4.5.
15:38.24eagles05138754.5.1
15:39.29annmaOK
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15:39.42annmaI run trunk and lokalization has changed
15:40.02annmawhen you set Malte as a country in 4.5 does the currency change as well?
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15:40.22eagles0513875whats in the list
15:40.25eagles0513875is the maltese lira still
15:40.31eagles0513875not euro
15:40.38annmawhat list?
15:40.51annmatell me exactly what you are doing so I understand
15:41.29eagles0513875open system settings go to locale
15:41.31eagles0513875then click on the money tab
15:41.38annmayes
15:41.44eagles0513875and choose maltese lira which is defunct
15:41.54annmayou can choose Euro though
15:42.05eagles0513875yes but what is currently there for maltese lira isnt accurate
15:42.18annmatehre is no currency for each country
15:42.24annmalike FRance has no currency
15:42.31annmaFrance has Euro
15:42.39annmathere is no French Euro
15:42.49eagles0513875i know but why are the old currencies still listed
15:42.56annmaso that's why I asked: has the MLT Lira totally disappeared?
15:43.11annmabecause some people want to know the conversion for ex?
15:43.39eagles0513875yes it has
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15:43.53eagles0513875its been defunct since january 2008 when the euro took over
15:43.54annmalFrench Francs also is there because some people want to know how much FF are in a €
15:44.01annmanot defunct totally
15:44.12eagles0513875thing is here prices and everything are now all in euros
15:44.13annmawe still get bills which mention FF
15:44.24annmayes but French Francs are still a reference
15:44.29eagles0513875the only place that is accepting the maltese lira woudl be the central bank
15:44.37annmaoit's not about accepting
15:44.42annmait's about converting
15:44.51eagles0513875ya
15:45.17annmaas long as you don't get the MLT Lira as default when you set your country to Malte then there is no bug
15:45.24eagles0513875ok thanks for that info regarding the euro though
15:45.26annmajust choose the Euro as currency
15:45.34eagles0513875lol funny you mention that
15:45.41eagles0513875i set my country yet defaulted to USD
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15:48.03annma;)
15:48.11annmathe Euro is stronger ;)
15:48.14eagles0513875haha
15:48.19eagles0513875dont need to tell me twice
15:48.51eagles0513875the funny thing instead of choosing malta for my kubuntu repos as the local mirror is a bit of a mess, i chose an italian repo
15:48.56eagles0513875yet it still defaulted to USD
15:49.01eagles0513875in italy they have the euro as well
15:49.08eagles0513875so im not sure if there is a bug there or what
15:49.47annmaas this code is changed to 4.6 I don't think I'll investigate more in 4.5
15:50.54eagles0513875ok thanks
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15:53.37bandicoothey, how to enlarge amount of recently used applications more than default max of 10 when pressing the start button on plasma-desktop?
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15:55.11eagles0513875hey annma another quick question i had the netbook version of kde and it was a resource hog, whats up with plasma being so resource hungry?
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15:55.49annmaask your distro about it
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15:56.02annmaplasma is not hungry and the netbook version is designed for netbooks
15:56.09annmamaybe you had a stale applet
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15:56.19eagles0513875ok annma i switch over to the desktop version of kde and it runs a million times better then the netbook version
15:56.34annmaasked like that, there is no way to know what's up but plasma is not a resource hog
15:56.36eagles0513875i used kubuntu netinstall on my pendrive which installed the latest of everything
15:56.57annmato debug it you would need to know what caused it
15:57.06annmaplasma is too vague
15:57.30eagles0513875ya i understand
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16:02.35eagles0513875hugs annma for all her hard work on kde :) its a great desktop keep it up :)
16:02.44annmathanks eagles0513875
16:03.01eagles0513875i still remember when 4 was released lol
16:03.06annma;)
16:03.21eagles0513875hate to say it but the transition was either a mess or ubuntu devs turned it messy
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16:03.53annma4.0 was for developers, it was only for the framework
16:03.58annmanot for the desktop usage
16:04.15annmawe did not promote this well enough
16:04.25eagles0513875ha then why on earth did ubuntu release it with one of their releases
16:04.48eagles0513875annma: i think if if you did the problem is you cant say to every distro do not release a version that contains this desktop
16:04.49annmabecause some users want more and more to "see" the next thing
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16:04.53eagles0513875true
16:05.08eagles0513875if they wanted they could leave a release wiht something stable and offer it in the case of ubuntu in a ppa
16:05.24annmausually distros kept 3.5 in stable though
16:05.46eagles0513875annma: ubuntu have done away with it entirely
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16:06.09eagles0513875i havent gone looking for it but i think they have gotten rid of it
16:06.15eagles0513875i have to say 4.5 is quite stable
16:06.24annmais debugging 4.6
16:06.34eagles0513875nice whats there to look forward to in 4.6
16:06.41annma:)
16:06.49annmahmmm not much
16:06.51eagles0513875wish i could help out some more in some of these amazing projects
16:06.54eagles0513875thing is time
16:07.08annmayes
16:07.15eagles0513875im already trying the new OOo fork which will replace OOo cuz oracle is pulling that plug
16:07.17eagles0513875libreoffice
16:07.22eagles0513875taking ages to compile though on my netbook
16:07.27eagles0513875but will be worth it in the end
16:07.34annma:)
16:07.46annmayes
16:07.53eagles0513875i like putting my 2 sense in with these projects
16:08.15eagles0513875right now im thinking bout LO and how we can improve optomization for the whole program
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16:08.26eagles0513875as well as working with devs of this java based game i found :)
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16:08.31eagles0513875im keeping super busy hehe
16:08.36annma:)
16:08.48annmathat's nice
16:09.24eagles0513875ya
16:09.28eagles0513875have lots of dev projects of my own
16:09.40eagles0513875as well as ive started my own business
16:09.51eagles0513875annma: question for ya bout kopete on 4.5.1
16:10.08eagles0513875im seeing a strange issue if i close kopete and its stays runningit shows i have no accounts
16:10.12eagles0513875if i close out of it fully
16:10.14annmaKopete is not in my area eagles0513875
16:10.18eagles0513875ahh ok
16:10.22annmaI never use it
16:10.28eagles0513875is there a kopete channel here on freenode?
16:10.29annmatry #kopete maybe
16:10.40annmaI never hacked a line on Kopete I think
16:11.05eagles0513875sigh
16:11.10eagles0513875this is such a peculiar issue
16:13.32eagles0513875annma: im guessing kde is a mix of c++ and qt
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16:14.11annmawell KDE is based on top of Qt which is mainly C++
16:14.19annmathere are other languages bindings though
16:14.28annmawe have a python game for ex
16:14.42annmabut Qt is mostly C++
16:15.20annmait's very intuitive and has good docs and easy to develop with
16:15.36eagles0513875interesting like i said i wish i had plenty more time
16:15.42eagles0513875in the process of learning php atm
16:15.56annmacool
16:15.59eagles0513875i just hatched an interesting idea thanks to you annma
16:16.00eagles0513875lol
16:16.05annma:)
16:16.24eagles0513875i wonder if it would be possible to use qt and c++ someway with python to develop a web based application
16:17.39annmaQt is a toolkit though
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16:22.22eagles0513875annma: when you say its kde is intuitive to work with and documented, where could one find the documents
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16:27.12I_Died_Oncehi... in kde4 (debian squeeze) i am compiling and i need to know 1) what package do i need to install to have the kde development files, and 2) what path will those be in?
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16:29.37alephI have probably stupid question, but how to make CUPS a default printing system for kdeprint for all users?
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16:30.33I_Died_Oncethere is a checkbox somewhere in the options that allows you to make it default
16:30.46I_Died_Oncei know thats not very helpful...
16:31.10I_Died_Oncekcontrol or systemsettings (depending on which verion of kde you got
16:31.19alephI_Died_Once: i know. but i want to make it default for all users (100+), including new ones
16:31.23alephok. will see
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16:31.59Sho_aleph: see the stuff on config files in the System Administrators section of http://techbase.kde.org/
16:32.17Sho_as well as the file system hierarchy document in the same section
16:32.47I_Died_Onceanyone around able to helpp me with my question/
16:33.22Sho_I_Died_Once: think there's a #debian-kde channel that would likely be more helpful since your q is distro-specific
16:35.11alephI_Died_Once: I have kde 4.4.5 it looks, from Debian squeeze.
16:35.13eagles0513875Sho_: i think majority of debian channels are on oftc if im not mistaken
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16:35.29Sho_eagles0513875: yeah could be
16:35.38eagles0513875im certain of that Sho_
16:35.43eagles0513875thats where all their commotion is
16:35.48Sho_kk
16:35.51Sho_is not a Debian user
16:35.53eagles0513875they have a channel on freenode but not as busy as that one
16:35.59eagles0513875Sho_: what do you use outa curiosity
16:36.05I_Died_Oncei jusdt joined the one on the debian chat server
16:36.18Sho_eagles0513875: Used to use Gentoo for seven years, then switched to Fedora back in fall 2009
16:36.29eagles0513875nice nice
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16:36.35eagles0513875kubuntu user here but thinking of rolling my own
16:36.56eagles0513875trying to go into an untapped lots of potential market for gamers and game devs and to encourage wanna be game devs
16:37.38Sho_fedora has a gaming version, never checked it out though
16:38.43eagles0513875interesting
16:38.47eagles0513875but a debian based one mine is
16:38.49eagles0513875gonna be
16:39.02I_Died_OnceI get this at the end of configure
16:39.03I_Died_Oncechecking for KDE... configure: error:
16:39.04I_Died_Oncein the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
16:39.04I_Died_OnceSo, check this please and use another prefix!
16:39.25annmaeagles0513875: I said Qt and it includes API docs and tutorials and examples
16:39.36annmaand KDE has all its doc on techbase.kde.org
16:39.52eagles0513875will have to do some digging around when i have some time
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16:40.27annma:)
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16:48.03alephSho_: Thanks for link to techbase, will look at it.
16:48.14alephbye
16:50.00annmaI_Died_Once: whar are you trying to do?
16:50.33annmawhat are you building and how?
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16:52.25I_Died_Oncea screensaver
16:52.36I_Died_Oncebut i just found out its a kde 3 one and i'm running 4
16:52.41annmaah OK
16:52.46annmaso you have the answer
16:52.54I_Died_Onceyeah, it was GTFO
16:53.21I_Died_Oncecant install the screensaver without getting all or most of kde 3
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16:56.00annmaand running the kde3 desktop probably
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16:56.38I_Died_Oncewhere else other than kde-look.org can i find some reccomended badasss screensavers?
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16:58.46Gentoochildhi there. Can you tell me where or how I can request more permissions on bugs.kde.org?
16:59.06annmaare you a developer?
16:59.14GentoochildOccasionally I read through bug lists and by chance find duplicates, for examples
16:59.41annmawe're conducting a bug week
17:00.03annmaand you want to close some?
17:00.27annmaGentoochild: come to #kde-bugs please
17:00.30Gentoochildwell, I found a duplicate yesterday. And it won't be the last I find
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17:50.36XerroHallo,  ich will den Theme für KDM ändern. Klicke ich mich mit der Maus zum Anmeldungsmanger, fehlen mir die Rechte dort was zu ändern. Mache ich das per kdesu, so komme ich zwar rein, ich kann aber keine neuen Themes installieren. Wie muss ich das machen?
17:51.24Gentoochild_ich glaube, Polkit-1 könnte da helfen
17:52.02Xerroist das eine Person hier im IRC?
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17:52.34Gentoochild_nein, ein Paket ^^
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17:53.10Xerrojo, habe es grad gefunden. Polkit-kde. Und ohne gehts nicht?
17:53.28Gentoochild_ich habe es früher auch gemacht indem ich systemsettings per kdesu aufgerufen habe
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17:54.04Gentoochild_ich habe es erst gestern getan (komplett neues System, ich mußte kdm nach meinem Geschmack einrichten)
17:54.12Gentoochild_polkit habe ich noch nicht installiert
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17:54.46Xerrowieso lassen sich bei mit themes nicht installieren. Ich bekomme die fehlermeldung: Could not install KDM-Euphoria
17:54.49Gentoochild_bzw. jetzt schon, aber ich sehe es nicht in sytemsettings
17:55.29Gentoochild_kann ich jetzt auf Anhieb nicht sagen, bin auch nur ein User.
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17:57.22XerroGentoochild_: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309171 . Was hast du für eine KDE version?
17:58.37Gentoochild_4.5.3. aber erst seit vorgestern ;-)
17:58.49Gentoochild_und bis vor zwei Tagen war ich ein paar Monate lang auf Debian unterwegs
17:59.37Gentoochild_dort mit 4.4.5
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18:00.26XerroVersuche ich per kdesu manuell die installationpfad einzugeben, kommt: Could not start process. Cannot talk to klauncher: The name org.kde kluncher was not provided by any .service files.
18:00.30XerroSagt dir das vllt was?
18:01.00Gentoochild_tut mir leid, ich habe kdesu bisher nur für Fontinstall benutzt und das gelegentliche Starten von Editor oder Dateimanager
18:01.16Gentoochild_und halt das Einstellen von KDM, aber ohne Installieren von Themes
18:01.24Xerromhhh...ok
18:01.51Xerrodann versuch ich es mal mit Polki-1
18:01.54Gentoochild_(ich benutze den klassischen KDM, der ist viiiel schööner ;-)
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18:02.38Gentoochild_tjo, ich benutze halt gern die Tastatur
18:03.32Gentoochild_und nu muß ich wech
18:03.39Gentoochild_bye all, see ya lazer
18:03.40Gentoochild_z=t
18:04.00XerroCya Gentoochild_
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18:08.57eisiGood Evening Dudes, i am new to KDE and have a question about x displays :). Is it right that kdm manages the displays? i want to start on fvwm or openbox on .0:1 automatically while booting. Where should i take the settings for this configuration? thx
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18:50.58roconnorI'm running KDE 4.5 on multiple monitors.  Is there a way to swap display 1 and display 2?  IE, can I "edit" the table given in System Setting - Multiple Monitors?
18:52.27roconnormore specifically my LVDS monitor is display 2 and my CRT monitor is display 1, and I want the reverse.
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18:57.36roconnorah
18:57.38roconnorxrandr --output LVDS1 --primary
18:57.42roconnorthis works :D
18:58.21roconnorthis makes me very happy!
18:58.57roconnorthanks to moofang: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=88875
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19:00.58moldyhi
19:01.53moldyi am having a smiliar issue as the people here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=28891&start=10 glx is working, but i cannot activate compositing using opengl (xrender works). can anyone provide any hints on how to debug this issue?
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19:28.22moldyFYI: i removed the existing compositing section from my kwinrc, and now it seems to work
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19:47.35OgoshiHi
19:48.04OgoshiI try to install kde-minimal in Debian-SID
19:48.13OgoshiBut I dont see.
19:48.22OgoshiIs deleted this packet??
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19:51.21pinotreeOgoshi: ask in the debian channel, that is #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net
19:52.21windowshasyouOgoshi: If I remember right, its kde-core
19:52.29Ogoshipinotree: thanks a lot...
19:52.31OgoshiBye
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20:50.09peponeHi, in Konqueror 4.5.3 call Java applets from JavaScript seems broken, anybody knows if there is an open bug about that
20:51.01may_nullHi there , I'm using KDE 4.4.5 and Apple Keyboard , my '<' and 'é' keys are switched (e.g when I press < I get " ) I tried to change keyboard layout to Apple but nothing changed
20:51.03may_nullanyway?
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21:23.19gribouillehi
21:23.32gribouilleis 1 GHz enough to run kde 4 ?
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21:27.40bulldog98gribouille: depends on if you’d like to run composite or not
21:27.51gribouillebulldog98, no
21:28.07bulldog98if you run it, kde might be slow, otherwise I see now problem with that
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21:37.37boombatowerpicture of my browser using 4.6b1 http://i.imgur.com/th6dP.png
21:37.45boombatoweronly when using window under cursor
21:39.24vladimiroffis there a way to set a shortcut for opening the klipper dialog?
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21:45.46BenBI'm starting korganizer, but it doesn't open a window. starting it on the console doesn't give any output. it worked an hour ago.
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21:52.26woodefechi, i've downgraded KDE from Factory 4.5.80 to Upstream 4.5.4. so now i got some double on screen notifications, any idea, what to delete from settings/configs?
21:53.58javier_woodefec: upstream 4.5.4 has been officialy released? :P
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21:55.31pinotreekde 4.5.4 has not been released yet, and the tarballs so far were wrong
21:56.00Watermindpinotree: now you tell me :S
21:56.02javier_can't get kde-l10n-ca to compile :(
21:56.12WatermindI updated to 4.5.4 and relogged in but everything shows 4.5.3
21:56.50pinotreeas i said
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21:56.56Watermindyeap I got it
21:57.16WatermindI was basically agreeing with you that something is definitely wrong
21:58.04woodefecjavier_, probably opensuse ships portions of 4.5.4
21:58.18pinotreethere's no kde 4.5.4, yet
21:58.22woodefeci also see 4.5.3 version of KDE in "about"
21:58.35javier_Watermind: "ouch, that means I uploaded the KDE 4.5.3 release as 4.5.4"
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21:58.53javier_it seems there was a small mistake
21:58.58Watermindjavier_: I guess so...
21:59.07woodefecok, so I have 4.5.3, but i had 4.5.80 for a cple of hours, now i see double notifications, what can that be?
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21:59.30javier_woodefec: afaik, openSUSE doesn't ship 4.5.4 yet or portions of it
22:00.03woodefecjavier_, ok, nevermind, what about the notifications?
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22:00.39javier_woodefec: I don't know.. probably somewhere under ~./kde4/share/config/
22:01.01Watermindwoodefec: why did you downgrade?
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22:01.13Watermindwoodefec: any major issues with the beta?
22:01.31woodefecWatermind, the GUI went hell slow, dolphin opening very long time and than unresponsive
22:01.59woodefecWatermind, it was terrible, at least here
22:02.00javier_kdepim crashes a lil bit
22:02.01Watermindwoodefec: ouch
22:03.11woodefec~/.kde4/share/config but what should i leave there so i have all my pim stuff untouched, i got lots of vcards and kontact schedule of my work
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22:06.53woodefecgood night
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22:38.47cordelldoes kde have a text to speech program like espeak or festival built into kde?
22:38.51basslinerhello, in my xterm, setting the title via PROMPT_COMMAND works, while in konsole it does not. any help how to solve this?
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22:40.49basslinernvm, just found it. :)
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23:04.34christoph_sgood evening. any gurus here that can help me to restore my KDE desktop that has been left damaged by an OpenSUSE update?
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23:06.31christoph_sespecially: KMail doesn't read my emails any longer, and I lost the list of open app windows
23:07.31alinchristoph_s: try #opensuse-kde
23:08.02christoph_sthx
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23:53.29oneforallany one know a good tweet scheduler app? and one that might do more than that :)
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