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00:42.30alberto_Hi guys
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00:42.45daviddoriaDoes anyone know which package to FIND_PACKAGE with CMake to be able to #include <KFileWidget> in my application ?
00:42.47alberto_I have a little problem, when i try to put a JPG image as desktop background, it won't show, it will put a solid color, what's going on?
00:43.51alberto_Using KDE 4.5 running under opensuse 11.3
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01:12.19daviddoriaAnyone know how to catch a double click on a file in a KFileWidget?
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01:34.39Goliathhey
01:34.59Goliathi have an .exe in .wine directory which i run with wine
01:35.07Goliathand i want to put a shortcut on the desktop
01:35.14Goliathso when i click it that exe runs with wine
01:35.17Goliathhow can i do it?
01:37.24JanKusanagicreate the launcher from the KDE menu editor
01:37.34JanKusanagithen you'll have it on the menu
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01:37.50JanKusanagithen rightclicking it on the menu, you can add this launcher to the desktop or to a panel
01:38.03JanKusanagi(IF widgets are unlocked)
01:38.27Goliathkk
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01:42.03GoliathJanKusanagi: well
01:42.09Goliathwhere it says command
01:42.18Goliathi type wine pathtofile
01:42.25Goliathand then run it
01:42.27Goliathit doesnt work
01:42.34Goliathshould i use ' ' or something?
01:42.39JanKusanagiit depends
01:42.44JanKusanagidoes the path have spaces?
01:42.56JanKusanagiif so, escape them with \
01:43.28JanKusanagiotherwise... does that exact command work if you run it from Konsole?
01:44.16Goliathlet me try it
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01:47.37GoliathJanKusanagi: i cant manage to cd to
01:47.46GoliathProgram FIles (x86)
01:47.59Lektronhi all. running KDE 4.5.4 and Okular 0.11.2 on archlinux. Okular seems to crash on any PDF. gdb backtrace is at http://pastie.org/1384471
01:47.59Goliathhow can i do this?
01:48.01JanKusanagiyou have to escape the spaces
01:48.07JanKusanagiadd a \ in front of each space
01:48.24JanKusanagiin Konsole you can use the tab key to auto-complete the path
01:48.54JanKusanagiyou'll probably need to escape the ( too
01:49.28GoliathJanKusanagi: how do i escape the *(
01:49.43alberto_Like: \(
01:50.40JanKusanagiexactly
01:50.54JanKusanagiLektron: probably related to libpoppler
01:51.11JanKusanagiis there any newer version available? maybe in [testing] repo?
01:51.55LektronJanKusanagi: i haven't checked to see
01:53.08Lektroni try to stick to the main repos, and am wary of mixing with [testing]
01:53.34Lektronis there a known issue with a version of libpoppler?
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01:57.36JanKusanagiLektron: I recall reading something about that some time ago, yes
01:57.50JanKusanagiMaybe it's related to your problem, maybe not
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02:01.22LektronJanKusanagi: ok, thanks. i will hang around awhile to see if pinotree is around, since he had asked about a backtrace when i mentioned this problem a few days ago.
02:01.36JanKusanagiok
02:02.08JanKusanagisee if there's a newer version of poppler in [testing] and you can always update just that
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02:11.53LektronJanKusanagi: looks like nothing newer in [testing] repo anyway
02:12.25JanKusanagiok, too bad
02:12.31LektronPDFs open fine with xpdf, btw
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02:19.11JanKusanagiok, I think this is what I remembered http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2010/07/bug-your-distro-to-package-lcms2.html
02:19.39JanKusanagiit wasn't about a but, but an improvement with a newer version of a library used by Okular
02:19.47JanKusanagis/but/bug
02:20.26JanKusanagiso nothing to do with your problem
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02:39.19kat1csettings seem to have gotten screwed up beyond repair somehow in KDE, can i remove and reinstall kde without it removing my files? in my home dir etc.. ?
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02:44.13genomegakat1c> which settings?
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02:46.10kat1cgenomega, kwin is starting up without window decorations, and when i go to system settings it crashes... i was thinking of doing a fresh install of it
02:47.01kat1cand alot of other things are crashing, like the Run, and couple in system settings dialog, just all of the sudden
02:49.13genomegawhich distro?
02:49.46kat1copensuse
02:50.31alberto_kat1c: Have you got the DVD? Or you installed from a CD?
02:50.43kat1cyeah, i could find it
02:50.59kat1cor make one real quick
02:51.09alberto_If you have a DVD just boot from it, and repair your installation
02:51.17genomegaIf you have kde4-config in your repo re-install then reboot
02:51.48alberto_I recall 11.2 and 11.3 having that option built in
02:53.20kat1cok :)
02:53.21alberto_But you should make sure you repair your installation, not a fresh install, if you do not have baked up your files
02:53.27alberto_Like...
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02:54.07alberto_A year ago knetworkmanager didn't start, and without net i couldn't find an RPM, so i used that to reinstall it, and it worked.
02:54.07kat1cwhat does kde use for the wifi app?
02:54.31alberto_It depends, if it's on demand it uses knetworkmanager ;)
02:54.41alberto_If it's static it uses ifup
02:54.46kat1cknetworkmanager lol ;p
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02:55.31alberto_^^^^ *backed, sorry
02:56.04JanKusanagikat1c: have you tried creating a new user?
02:57.15kat1ccan i do that from the console?
02:57.23kat1cbecause kde is being weired.
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02:59.01kat1c@ JanKusanagi
02:59.16JanKusanagiyes
02:59.37JanKusanagiyou can use adduser or useradd, as root
03:00.23JanKusanagiyou could also (carefully) rename your .kde or .kde4 directory to some other temporary name, so you KDE starts with default values
03:00.51JanKusanagi(but there are other directories like .config that contain more settings, so it's best to try with a new user first)
03:00.58kat1ci actually deleted that folder, and it didn't work ;p
03:01.07JanKusanagioh, ok
03:01.27JanKusanagiit's always better to just rename, but as long as you know what you're doing... :P
03:02.38kat1cehe i know ;p
03:03.19alberto_can find
03:03.44alberto_Sorry, i meant:
03:04.02alberto_Someone knows where i can find this package with dependencies? libqt4-4.7.1-150.2.i586.rpm
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03:05.47JanKusanagialberto_: not every .rpm file works with every rpm-based distribution
03:06.09JanKusanagijust like not every .deb package works with every deb-based distribution
03:06.19JanKusanagiwhat distribution are you using?
03:07.04kat1cJanKusanagi, when i do... useradd [name] -p [password]
03:07.16alberto_Opensuse 11.3
03:07.26kat1cwhat else am i missing, because it didn't let me login with that?
03:07.52JanKusanagidon't add the -p parameter
03:07.52alberto_I'm trying to upgrade KDE, but Yast will only return a lot of "checksum error" when installing any QT library.
03:08.06JanKusanagijust useradd whateverusername
03:08.21kat1cbut what about the password?
03:08.25JanKusanagialberto_: try another mirror, sounds like corrupt files
03:08.39JanKusanagikat1c: you'll be prompted for it
03:08.55JanKusanagiif not, then passwd userwhatever
03:09.07kat1coh ok
03:11.12alberto_I'm using this mirror (i wonder if i can paste links here)
03:11.23alberto_http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt/openSUSE_11.3/i586/
03:11.41JanKusanagithat doesn't seem to be a specific mirror
03:11.43alberto_It's the only one i have handy
03:11.56alberto_I meant, software repository
03:11.58JanKusanagithat will probably redirect to a specific mirror later
03:12.24JanKusanagimaybe you could try just clearing the package cache and retrying the upgrade normally
03:12.33JanKusanagiI don't know much of openSuse, sorry
03:14.39kat1cJanKusanagi, okay, when i logged in with my new nick, it said "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. error code is 3"
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03:15.25JanKusanagiok then it's probably something at the system level
03:15.41JanKusanagiat least we can (almost) discard user configuration issues
03:15.56kat1cehe yeah ;p
03:16.55JanKusanagiif you try "which kstartupconfig4", can it find it?
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03:18.42kat1cyup, /usr/bin/kstartupconfig4
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03:27.18JanKusanagiso it exists...
03:27.55JanKusanagias long as you're using the temporary user, you could run kstartupconfig4 and see if an error message explains what's happening
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05:09.17kadobankde4 in kubuntu...uhm 8.04 i think, used to have this cool wallpaper thing that was a map of the world that moved with the sun, which seems to be gone now. was that a kde thing, or a kubuntu thing, or? and anyone know if i can install it somehow now?
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06:18.33jschallkadoban: looks like you want to install plasma-wallpapers-addons
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06:23.58kadobanjschall: ah, hmm, thanks a lot.  that looks like it
06:24.37jschallkadoban: i'll know for sure when i'm done downloading it myself.
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06:27.15kadobanyay, that's definitely it.  just finished installing.  thanks again
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07:32.10soreauIs there somewhere I can report a problem/bug with kompozer or get support for it?
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07:33.07soreauI select publish and it works fine but then I can no longer save - the only option is 'save as' which I try and then when selecting publish a second time I have to re-enter all of the information again and the publish fails
07:33.30Tek_bob-ombHello.
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07:35.05RedMercuryis this a good place to ask if i have a problem with kde SMOKE ?
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07:35.50RedMercuryit dies on a qt private copy constructor :(
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08:16.58gregor_hi, I have a question for the KDEUI folks, specifically about the KMenu class - can anybody point me to the proper channel?
08:20.09tsimpson#kde-devel maybe
08:20.21gregor_thanks, will try there
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08:25.21annmais there a KMenu class?
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08:25.52tsimpsonsub-class of QMenu
08:26.09gregor_annma: yes, the documentation is here: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/kmenu_8cpp.html
08:26.14annmayes yes
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09:14.44oobeHi i use mythtv in kde and vdpau for playback when i use mythtv to watch video the rest of the desktop produces artifacts when rendering images I realise this may not necessarily be an issue with kde but thought someone might know what is causing it and i could use that info to make a workaround
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09:30.48zaykahi
09:31.05zaykaplasma crash and Oops then http://i040.radikal.ru/1012/bf/c49d6f78ed5d.png
09:31.54titouhi
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09:32.25titouI'm under KDE 4.5.4 and each time I launch KDE I got the message "kontact is already running on another display.."
09:32.54annmapastebin the crash backtrace please zayka
09:32.54titouI don't close kontact when I shut down my computer because I want it to be restarted when I restart a KDE session
09:33.06zaykaannma, how can i do that?
09:33.15titouin the past, it was working properly but since several versions of KDE I have this message
09:33.36titouthis is annoying :s
09:33.38zaykaannma, if my pc is frozen
09:34.13titouanother interesting thing is that if I choose the "start kontact" button, I have to isntances of kontact which appear
09:34.13annmatitou: report to bugs.kde.org
09:34.19titouif I choose quit, I have nothing..
09:34.26titous/to/two :)
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09:34.44annmazayka: when plasma crashes, do you have a dialog telling you it crashed?
09:35.38zaykaannma, no, i have freeze
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09:35.57annmais it a new installation?
09:36.26zaykaannma, yes, and gnome works without crashes
09:36.34annmawhat distribution?
09:36.41zaykaannma, gentoo
09:36.47annmamaybe something is missing
09:36.55annmaask in #gentoo-kde
09:37.04zaykaannma, can it be a kernel bug?
09:37.08annmano
09:37.27annmabut if yo udo not have more information it's difficult to see what canbe wrong
09:37.27zaykaannma, why kernel is unresponding?
09:37.31annmakernel?
09:37.41annmahow is kernel not responding?
09:38.01zaykaannma, i cant use magic keys / sysrq
09:38.10zaykaannma, only reset after crash
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09:38.48annmaask in #gentoo-kde please as they will know far more than I do
09:38.58annmaexplain better
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09:39.11zaykaannma, thx
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10:48.07CaterpillarI am looking for abrt and drkonqi crash reports with backtraces. In which path I can find them?
10:48.17CaterpillarI need them for a bug report
10:50.41gkiagiaCaterpillar: they are not meant to be executed directly
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10:55.54Caterpillargkiagia: how can I use them?
10:56.02Caterpillarit is about a kde problem
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10:57.34gkiagiaCaterpillar: they are invoked automatically when something crashes
10:57.58gkiagiaCaterpillar: if you have produced a backtrace in some other way, go to bugs.kde.org directly and report it
10:58.23Caterpillarmy problem is that these two programs don't send me anything
10:58.53gkiagia?
10:59.41Caterpillarah,maybe the daemon is not running
10:59.43CaterpillarI check
10:59.56gkiagiadrkonqi doesn't need any daemon
11:00.24gkiagiaunless of course your distro has disabled it in favor of abrt
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11:07.55gregor_I get crashes reported by DrKonqi with nothing except 'Segmentation fault' in the backtrace
11:08.04gregor_mostly with akonadi agents
11:08.33gkiagiagregor_: distro?
11:08.38gregor_openSuse
11:08.50gkiagiadoes it happen always or sometimes?
11:08.54gregor_just sometimes
11:09.03gkiagiayeah, I've heard that before :/
11:09.12gregor_mainly with akonadi stuff
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11:42.16femtosecondhi guys
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11:49.49femtosecondanyone using digikam
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11:54.20gregor_femtosecond: I usually do, though I haven't for some time now
11:55.55femtosecondgregor: do you know anything  about "correct false colors in highlights" in raw converter?
11:56.12gregor_no, sorry
11:56.33gregor_I just open a RAW file, edit it, then save as JPG...
11:56.41gregor_I never played with any settings
11:57.19femtosecondit seems they dropped this option
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12:28.28daviddoriaCan anyone explain how I would know when the user double clicks on a file in a KFileWidget?
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12:33.07annmadaviddoria: explain more please
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12:50.40daviddoriaannma: Currently if a user double clicks on a file in a KFileWiget, nothing happens. I want to make that event hide the KFileWidget (i.e. the user is "done" selecting a file when he double clicks on it)
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12:53.10daviddoriaannma: the fileHighlighted signal is throw with a single click
12:53.28daviddoriaannma: and there is a fileSelected signal, but I can't figure out when it gets thrown (it is NOT with a double click)
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13:03.21annmayou need to reimplement a mouse event
13:03.24annmaprobably
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13:05.13daviddoriacan you explain how "events" fit into the signal/slot concept
13:05.34daviddoriaso I'd need to subclass the KFileWidget and handle the doubleClick event and emit a new FileDoubleClicked signals?
13:06.11annmayou never used QMouseEvent?
13:06.17daviddorianope
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13:06.31annmamaybe read about it first
13:06.43annmathe devel channel is #kde-devel by the way
13:07.22daviddoriabut I don't really need to do anything with the QMouseEvent object, right? For what I'm doing the event signature could just be mouseDoubleClickEvent()
13:07.30daviddoria(instead of mouseDoubleClickEvent(QMouseEvent*)
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13:58.27SUSE-Linux-GeekHello, does anyone know if there is a way to change kmail to reply at the top of emails?
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13:59.02ElvanorWhat do I need to install / configure in order to be able to run systemsettings with root privileges?
13:59.18ElvanorSome time ago, a password popup appeared but not anymore
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14:00.19zegenie_SUSE-Linux-Geek: it's in the compose templates
14:00.30zegenie_SUSE-Linux-Geek: configure kmail -> compose -> templates
14:01.21mfraz74Elvanor: can't you just run kdesu systemsettings?
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14:02.04zegenie_or if you're running *buntu/debian - "kdesudo systemsettings"
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14:02.46Elvanormfraz74: zegenie If I do that, it still wont allow me to save
14:02.57ElvanorIt asks for a password, I enter it, but then result is the same
14:03.10ahox_Hi, is it possible to tell
14:03.17ahox_aspell to ignore capitalization?
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14:04.38zegenie_Elvanor: what are you trying to save?
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14:04.58Elvanorzegenie: date
14:05.10zegenie_as in changing the system date?
14:05.20Elvanoryes
14:05.36zegenie_yeah, that would require elevated permissiosn
14:05.48SUSE-Linux-Geekzegenie_: Thank you so much
14:05.49zegenie_have you tried right-clicking on the clock -> adjust time and date?
14:05.54zegenie_SUSE-Linux-Geek: np :)
14:06.20Elvanorsame thing
14:06.25SUSE-Linux-Geekzegenie_: :)
14:06.38Elvanorthe window has a "You are not allowed to save the configuration" text
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14:07.29zegenie_maybe your user actually isn't allowed
14:07.30zegenie_?
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14:07.41Elvanormy normal user, yes
14:07.55ElvanorBut I should be able with root privileges
14:08.05zegenie_true
14:08.32zegenie_I would file it as a bug with either bugs.kde.org or your distributions bug tracker, then
14:10.07ahox_or actually, how do I tell the kde aspell to use my conf file?
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17:19.50haxihi guys, I've a little problem, I don't know if it's realy related with kde (if so, just tell me ^^), but I've a problem with my sound
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17:20.30annmaexplain: distribution, kde version, problem
17:20.35haxiwell, not only with sound, but with multimedia in general, let me explain:
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17:21.38haxidebian, kde4. When I play a video (eg youtube) on google chrome, I can't watch a film with kaffeine or play a song in amarok
17:22.07sahkoits not a kde problem
17:22.28haxiok sorry for the inconvenience :)
17:23.16sahkoits a quite common problem, you should be able to find a solution on the internet
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17:39.34QuantumDoes anyone know why Konqueror can't remember cookies?  I have them enabled (Ask), but it forgets them after a couple of days.
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17:40.09QuantumAnd for IXQuick.com it never, never remembers my settings.
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17:45.06rooter7Does anyone know why Konqueror can't remember cookies?  I have them enabled (Ask), but it forgets them after a couple of days.
17:45.11rooter7And for IXQuick.com it never, never remembers my settings.
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17:46.17annmaafter a couple of days?
17:46.41annmayou mean it works for 2 days then it stops?
17:47.23rooter7Most cookies last a couple of days then it wasks again.
17:47.38rooter7But it never remembers ixquick's cookies.
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17:52.51annmait depends on your settings
17:53.46annmadid you look at your cookies settings?
17:56.13rooter7Y.  There is no place that provides for a timed wipe of cookies.
17:56.34rooter7And there's no explanation why it does not honor ixquick's cookies.
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17:57.36annmaso what are your settings
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17:58.51rooter7Enable, Only accept, Auto accept, Ask.
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17:59.14rooter7Treat all not checked.
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18:03.06annmacolor for example?
18:03.21annmaI mean for http://ixquick.com/
18:03.29rooter7Y.  Any setting.
18:03.30annmait doe snot remember yout color scheme?
18:03.35annmaworks here
18:03.44annmaI just tried
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18:04.01rooter7Completely nonfunctional for me.
18:04.44annmathe good news is that it's fixed in 4.6 then if it was a bug
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18:05.21rooter7I have policy set to ixquick.com accept, but have no ixquick cookies in management.
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18:06.08annmaI have
18:06.30annmaI have lang_homepageEEEs/night/N1N forexample
18:06.43rooter7Guess I'm lucky then.
18:08.06rooter7Oh, I've just set color and number per page, and have a cookie now.  It worked.  I've always set ssh as well  in the past.
18:09.00rooter7And turned off filters.
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18:15.23rooter7I uess there's no explanation why it forgets cookies after a couple of days.  Maybe a bug that's soon to be fixed.  But thanks.
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18:48.14Goliathhey
18:48.20Goliathi am connecting my hdmi to my tv
18:48.24Goliathhow can i use hdmi out as audio tv (the tv) ?
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19:03.07fahadI use debian squeeze - is any wifi gui to see netwroks in KDE ?
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19:06.47Damnshockfahad: see networks?
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19:06.56Damnshockknetworkmanager
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19:10.28ezu5thi, i am trying to run a build of amarok I just checked out from git. I am using kde on my desktop logged in as a regular user. I want to run another KDE application with clean settings in another user's area.  (amarok, konqueror, konsole). So I "su kde" and I am this other user. x11 apps run fine, but any KDE app I try to run as that other user, I get this: <unknown program name>(14818)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session serv
19:10.28ezu5tMy question: Is there some sort of environment variable or something I need to set so I can run KDE apps as 2 different users on the same desktop?
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19:12.01ezu5toops. nevermind. i realize now I should have done "su - kde" instead of just "su kde"
19:12.18ezu5t[because I inherited some environment from my own user that was not wanted]
19:12.44ezu5tanswered my own question :-)
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19:15.58fahadDamnshock: I want the user to have a small button and see that there is a wifi available (similar to that in GNOME)
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19:36.56c-101_Hello there
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19:38.23alorenzoi am compiling beta2 and i found some message erros when using kmail2
19:38.31alorenzoabout some unkown service for dbus
19:38.57alorenzoorg.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage  was not provided by any .service files....
19:39.07alorenzois this to be expected or is this a problem with my installation ?
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20:10.23joshymy "applet" for messaging disappeared. How i get it back? (Applet for kopete / kmail ...)
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20:13.49aseigojoshy: add it back using Add Widgets (just click on the toolbox button on the far right of the panel)...
20:14.47aseigojoshy: if it was in the system tray area, then open up the system tray configuration (right click on it is the swiftest way, though in 4.6 you can also get to it via the toolbox) and there's a page listing applets you can show in it
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20:19.48joshyaseigo: thx
20:20.12joshyaseigo: is there a possibility to show kopete without this widget?
20:20.56aseigodefine "show kopete"
20:21.00aseigoand .. are you on kubuntu?
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20:32.32joshydefine "show kopete" ?
20:32.36joshyand yess
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20:49.42joshyaseigo: define "show kopete"
20:51.26sreichjoshy: what? that was a question..because you were the one who mentioned "show kopete"
20:51.34sreichlol, you just repeated what he asked..
20:52.18joshyshop kopetes normal icon
20:52.29joshynot in the  "message box"
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20:53.18joshyand i thougt write "show kopete" anywhere and it works
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20:58.12joshyaseigo: sreich: any infos?
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21:04.01fugdnscerdat the kdm login screen i see an option to connect to a remote server through xdmcp.  Is there a way to login remotely using rdesktop or vnc?
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21:47.53aseigojoshy: the message area is a k/ubuntu modification. so i don't know all the details of it.
21:48.06aseigojoshy: last i looked, they were doing it in a way that wasn't really very flexible.
21:48.14aseigojoshy: but you should ask the kubuntu devs :)
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21:48.40joshyhmm
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22:20.01OffToHadesGuys, anyone around who can help me? I was just in the middle of opening a webpage in Firefox, and the whole of plasma died on me. The crash handler says it was a segfault, but it also reckons the information I got from it is no good
22:20.54OffToHadesThe bug handler says "This information is probably not useful" - why should a program decide what is useful and what isn't? Surely that's up to you guys, isn't it?
22:21.13James147OffToHades: Probally because you dont have the debugging symbols
22:21.49OffToHadesJames147: the bug handler doesn't give me the option to install them either, the Install Debug Symbols button is greyed out
22:22.20James147OffToHades: what ditro are you using?
22:22.25James147distro ^^
22:22.31OffToHadesmandriva 2010.1, KDE 4.4.3
22:24.40James147OffToHades: you might want to ask on their channel on how to install them, but most distros append the packages with *-dbg or *-debug
22:25.14OffToHadesi'm just gonna urpmi our debug pack for plasma, I've saved the bug report to reopen afterwards :)
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22:31.07OffToHadesone more question, kcrash comes up on my system when I get a crash, but I can't find the binary to run it from. What is the actual package called?
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22:31.32OffToHadesI have saved the crash I had, and want to reopen it now I have the debug symbols in place
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22:32.17pabsthey all - is there some way to record actions (say, printing a file in kate) and play them back without digging into dbus?
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22:36.14pabsti guess that's a no?
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22:37.07Torchpabst: that's a "no one currently reading here knows of such a way"
22:38.41pabstah okay
22:38.54pabstman i really want to learn how to hack KDE
22:39.06Torchpabst: so why not just use dbus then?
22:39.21pabstcause i want to get this done today :p
22:40.20OffToHadesTorch, you wouldn't happen to have any idea how to bring up the kde crash handler would you? I need to reload a bug and assess it
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22:41.48TorchOffToHades: you cannot once you close it
22:42.04OffToHades>:(
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22:42.13OffToHadesThe instructions on the crash handler need to be clearer then
22:42.15TorchOffToHades: i.e. if you close it with a certain crash you cannot get that crash information back
22:42.32OffToHadesI hit the save button, which suggests to save it and reopen it later to report it
22:42.42pabsti guess, Torch, for future reference - where's a good place to get started with DBus?
22:42.45OffToHadesif I can't reopen it, then I'm screwed
22:42.52Torchpabst: dbus isn't that bad. play around with qdbus on a shell and see how it works for you. also, there are tutorials on the web.
22:43.01pabstTorch: interesting
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22:43.31TorchOffToHades: if it only happened once and never comes back it's not worth worrying about anyway, is it?
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22:43.47OffToHadesThis isn't the first time it's happened
22:43.54TorchOffToHades: and if it ever comes back, report it ;-) you can install debug symbols _without_ closing the crash handler
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22:44.03TorchOffToHades: in case it's still missing debug packages next time
22:44.06OffToHadesIt's a regular occurrence, different things cause it, but it keeps happening
22:44.23OffToHadesI tried to install the debug packages without shutting it, and the install button was greyed out
22:44.27OffToHadesI couldn't use it
22:45.05TorchOffToHades: the install button in the handler is supposed to be used by your distro. they should add the functionality they require for that. seems they opted not to do that.
22:45.23TorchOffToHades: but you can still install the debug packages while the handler is open from a shell or your package manager utility.
22:45.29TorchOffToHades: and reload the report in the handler once you did that
22:46.05OffToHadesright, well I'll go yell at my distro for it and tell them to fix it
22:46.08OffToHades:)
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23:02.38pabstofftohades: what're knuckledusters?
23:03.19Torchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckledusters
23:03.43BarkingFishpabst, nasty things you wear across your fingers when you intend to punch someone's lights out and cause some damage :)
23:03.54BarkingFishthey're useful if you're going into a fight, but utterly illegal
23:04.38pabstoh yeah those things
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