| 00:00.42 | sreich | bkadoctaj: right, what thiago said. I've never heard of anyone wanting this feature...tbh it's really weird. And since the application changes it at it's whim, quite pointless |
| 00:01.12 | sreich | e.g. any app will change it's window title when you change documents or what have you |
| 00:01.18 | bkadoctaj | haha Just shows I'm a little naïve to the way the coding has been done. Thanks for your patient explanations. |
| 00:01.20 | sreich | I think even amarok says what song it's playing |
| 00:02.04 | bkadoctaj | Btw, great work on KDE SC 4.5. It's really enjoyable to use. |
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| 00:02.15 | diegoviola | hi |
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| 00:02.22 | diegoviola | is there a way to "share" a folder with KDE? |
| 00:02.26 | diegoviola | using the GUI |
| 00:02.32 | diegoviola | share it with ssamba |
| 00:02.33 | diegoviola | samba |
| 00:02.49 | sreich | diegoviola: there's a samba kcm |
| 00:02.58 | sreich | there's also smb4k |
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| 00:10.52 | ubiquitous1980 | when trying to access westpac online banking via konqueror, the web browser reports that an indirect but infinite loop has been identified |
| 00:11.07 | ubiquitous1980 | this stops me from using konqueror with web banking |
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| 00:12.48 | ubiquitous1980 | this problem does not affect firefox, epiphany, chromium, or opera |
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| 00:14.48 | jsubl2 | recently tried kde on debian squeeze. have alot of issues with artifacts on the screen from pops. I dont like to use compiz. any suggestions |
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| 00:36.40 | thewanderer1 | hello. I'm connecting with Dolphin to SFTP. how does it perform file rename operation? |
| 00:37.05 | thewanderer1 | I mean, what steps are involved, and what sftp commands issued? |
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| 00:40.41 | thewanderer1 | oh where for penguin's sake is kioslave's source code now? |
| 00:40.59 | thewanderer1 | websvn only shows ftp and http backends in this |
| 00:41.34 | pinotree | look also in kdebase/runtime, for example |
| 00:44.40 | thewanderer1 | oh, here it is |
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| 00:44.55 | thewanderer1 | any idea what sftp_rename doe? |
| 00:44.58 | thewanderer1 | s/doe/does/ |
| 00:45.41 | pinotree | look at the libssh code |
| 00:45.44 | thewanderer1 | how can I access a snapshot of the SVN at a particular revision? |
| 00:46.02 | thewanderer1 | I'd like to see code from KDE4.4.5 |
| 00:46.11 | pinotree | see tags/KDE/4.4.5 |
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| 00:47.11 | thewanderer1 | ok... |
| 00:47.47 | thewanderer1 | well, it uses sftp_rename, which should be equivalent to what `sftp` (client program) does as a part of `rename` command |
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| 00:48.14 | thewanderer1 | yet it looks as if the server is trying to hardlink something to something |
| 00:48.36 | pinotree | since kde 4.4 (or 4.3 already? don't remember) kio_sftp uses the libssh library, instead of driving an ssh executable |
| 00:48.50 | thewanderer1 | yes, I can see it pretty clearly |
| 00:50.10 | thewanderer1 | but hey, it should be in `ldd` listing of sftp, too, and it's not |
| 00:50.22 | pinotree | it = ? |
| 00:50.27 | thewanderer1 | libssh |
| 00:50.40 | pinotree | don't think sftp ues libssh |
| 00:51.06 | thewanderer1 | am now trying to debug a server-side problem where the system does not allow hard links, but some clients like Dolphin try to hardlink a file when renaming |
| 00:51.26 | pinotree | you really want to look at libssh's code, then |
| 00:51.30 | thewanderer1 | as a result, I can not upload anything because kioslave first creates the .part, then moves it to actual filename |
| 00:51.34 | thewanderer1 | yup |
| 00:51.39 | thewanderer1 | doing that right now |
| 00:51.43 | thewanderer1 | thanks for the help |
| 00:51.49 | pinotree | np |
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| 00:54.11 | jcolby | Since upgrading to KDE 4.6 beta 2 my laptop no longer suspends. When I choose leave -> sleep from the K menu my screen blanks and my session locks, but the system never suspends. Any ideas what may be causing the suspend to fail? |
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| 00:56.46 | ubiquitous1980 | any ideas on how to get konqueror to work with westpac online banking |
| 00:56.52 | ubiquitous1980 | it does a cyclic link warning |
| 00:57.46 | thewanderer1 | ubiquitous1980: probably due to cheap JavaScript+cookie mechanisms on their side |
| 00:58.36 | ubiquitous1980 | thewanderer1: ok but why can ff, opera, epiphany and chromium handle this issue? |
| 00:58.48 | ubiquitous1980 | and may I work around it some how? |
| 00:59.06 | thewanderer1 | ubiquitous1980: it might be a flaw in Konqueror's implementation of JavaScript - it is known to be imperfect... |
| 00:59.40 | ubiquitous1980 | thewanderer1 oh :(, but I find other qt based browsers (except for opera) are problematic also |
| 00:59.42 | thewanderer1 | perhaps try setting Konqueror to use WebKit |
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| 01:00.05 | ubiquitous1980 | thewanderer1 I thought of changing to webkit also, but it doesn't allow a login either |
| 01:00.45 | thewanderer1 | aww... then it's most probably a broken script and you should bug the webmaster about it |
| 01:01.17 | ubiquitous1980 | I guess I could try, it has been the same for years |
| 01:01.35 | ubiquitous1980 | and now that I want to move to kde permanently, it is a bit of a bother I suppose. |
| 01:02.02 | ubiquitous1980 | is there a way to make konqueror use a different JS engine? |
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| 01:03.19 | thewanderer1 | none that I know of... |
| 01:03.30 | thewanderer1 | don't worry, I use Chromium under KDE as well |
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| 01:04.47 | ubiquitous1980 | yeah, but then there's the whole gtk/qt integration with oxygen-molecule |
| 01:05.27 | thewanderer1 | what's oxygen-molecule? |
| 01:05.45 | ubiquitous1980 | it is a theme that makes gtk apps look nice under kde |
| 01:05.51 | ubiquitous1980 | applications |
| 01:05.53 | ubiquitous1980 | I should say |
| 01:06.00 | thewanderer1 | well, I'm using something called qtcurve now |
| 01:06.10 | thewanderer1 | has a GTK module, too |
| 01:06.21 | alin | thewanderer1: o2... sometimes o3... the base of life on earth |
| 01:06.39 | ubiquitous1980 | yeah, I find the oxygen molecule is almost seamless though, perhaps you should try it |
| 01:06.58 | thewanderer1 | takes a deep breath... wow. this stuff's nice |
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| 01:07.30 | ubiquitous1980 | glad you like it |
| 01:07.46 | ubiquitous1980 | still, i like to run a qt only environment |
| 01:08.03 | ubiquitous1980 | so it would be nice to have a qt based web browser that can do the internet banking thing |
| 01:08.08 | daedaluz | have you tried rekonq? |
| 01:08.14 | ubiquitous1980 | yeah |
| 01:08.20 | ubiquitous1980 | ill try it again just now |
| 01:08.27 | ubiquitous1980 | to tell u the error I get on that |
| 01:08.36 | daedaluz | don't bother, I'm not expert |
| 01:09.05 | daedaluz | however, my problem with banking wasn't with browser, but with icedtea. had to install official sun java |
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| 01:12.52 | ubiquitous1980 | under rekonq, it just does a blank pag |
| 01:12.54 | ubiquitous1980 | page |
| 01:14.44 | ubiquitous1980 | maybe I should hassle the webmaster about it |
| 01:15.27 | mjobin | does rekonq use webkit, khtml or both upon choice ? |
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| 01:17.03 | verbalshadow | mjobin: rekonq use webkit |
| 01:17.06 | verbalshadow | uses |
| 01:19.38 | ubiquitous1980 | could be the whole javascript thing? |
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| 02:10.42 | tom__ | I want to share a notes plasmoid on the network. I have avahi enabled on both machines and I also see it as shared plasmoid in Dolphin - but where do I go from there. If I click it nothing happens |
| 02:11.18 | aseigo | tom__: notes plasmoid does local-only data, unfortunately. it does not use a dataengine or the service architecture, and so the data does not get transfered. :/ |
| 02:11.48 | aseigo | (the notes plasmoid predates that part of plasma by quite a bit...) |
| 02:11.59 | aseigo | (well, not dataengines, but the service arch and remotes) |
| 02:12.17 | tom__ | ah - bummer. Is there a change that maybe with akonadi this can be done somehow? |
| 02:12.31 | aseigo | might; the big trick with something like that is collaborative editing. |
| 02:12.37 | tom__ | :s/change/chance |
| 02:12.41 | Sho_ | aseigo: it's a semi-frequent problem in here that people try to share plasmoids that can't be ... is it possible you could disable the share option for them lib-side in some way? |
| 02:12.53 | tom__ | I guess you would have to lock it somehow. |
| 02:12.59 | aseigo | Sho_: no way to tell programmatically which is which. |
| 02:13.09 | Jucato | or make the notes plasmoid shareable? |
| 02:13.29 | aseigo | tom__: yes; or run a local version of one of the multi-edit daemons... |
| 02:14.06 | aseigo | heads for dinner... |
| 02:14.15 | tom__ | bon appetit :-) |
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| 04:05.48 | HandyGandy | Is there a technique/library/whatever to allow you to use GTK controls ion a Qt program? |
| 04:06.59 | sreich | uuhhh.. |
| 04:07.11 | sreich | who...would want to do that? |
| 04:07.19 | sreich | if it were possible, that is |
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| 04:07.48 | sreich | you'd end up forgoing everything that Qt has to offer |
| 04:07.55 | sreich | and it'd look like ass |
| 04:08.20 | Sho_ | It's theoretically possible, but afaik nobody has put in the work to write the necessary glue bits |
| 04:09.08 | sreich | Sho_: probably a bunch of work with painting and what not. but what would be the point, even |
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| 04:11.14 | Sho_ | sreich: I guess the scenario is "I have this awesome custom GTK+ widget that I'd like to reuse in a Qt app", but I think in practice anything that customized it's a significant asset probably has more code in the logic part than the UI part so it's still more economical to port it from one toolkit to the other in the end .. |
| 04:11.47 | sreich | hm..I see your point |
| 04:11.56 | sreich | I guess it'd have to be a really sweet widget ;-) |
| 04:12.48 | Sho_ | yeah, but what I'm saying is that with most of those sweet widgets their sweetness isn't actually the part that interacts with the toolkit but the logic part, so I'd rather port the logic part to another toolkit than try to make an ugly hybrid |
| 04:12.57 | HandyGandy | sreich: I want to write a " DayTimer" toolkit. Something which allows a generic user to make applications like xournal, but to create custom pages. To do it I need to either write a "gimplike" widget or use one. Or use the one in xournal. |
| 04:13.57 | sreich | Sho_: yes, I got what you meant |
| 04:14.21 | Sho_ | HandyGandy: I'd say look into reusing KOffice's flake library. You might also want to look into Cyrille Berger's Braindump application, that sounds like it might be what you want to work on |
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| 04:20.22 | Sho_ | HandyGandy: fwiw, Qt does already optionally integrate with the glib main event loop (and most distros compile Qt with that option) so that solves a big part of the problem of how to get something GTK+ inside a Qt app, but you are going to need some good low-level know-how to figure out the painting and events side of things |
| 04:20.43 | Sho_ | if you wanted to reuse the xournal code, i mean |
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| 04:26.36 | HandyGandy | Sho_:Can flake handle pressure sensitive input? |
| 04:29.47 | Sho_ | HandyGandy: Yes, one of the applications in KOffice is a raster graphics application called Krita that focussed on painting and texture-making (it's quite a bit more advanced than Gimp in terms of technological foundations, e.g. everything is implemented colorspace-independent, it has pervasive OpenGL canvas support, and so on) and so tablet support including support for tilt metrics and pressure sensitivity is part of their game |
| 04:30.03 | Sho_ | *focusses |
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| 04:33.45 | HandyGandy | Cool. I just tried krita, but for a "quickie" look I found found it confusing and will probably get a better idea if I look at it slowly. |
| 04:35.54 | Sho_ | HandyGandy: If possible try to get your hands on the recently-released KOffice 2.3, Krita has made much progress in that version particularly in the UI department |
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| 04:41.17 | Sho_ | alrighty, gotta jet, sorry .. |
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| 04:49.48 | apparle | Is there any way to connect to mobile gprs over bluetooth |
| 04:49.49 | apparle | ? |
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| 04:53.02 | arunce | apparle: search for pan (personal area network) |
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| 04:55.07 | arunce | apparle: if your phone have win ce 6.1 it should work up to 6 devices. |
| 04:56.09 | apparle | arunce: from the search I did, it seems kde4.5 doesn't support bluetooth networking yet. Is it so? And I am using Symbian phone |
| 04:56.57 | arunce | you might have to try it without kde apps. |
| 04:57.46 | arunce | apparle: check this http://littlethorpe.net/wordpress/?p=91 |
| 04:58.56 | arunce | apparle: for symbian maybe you should google for symbian ubuntu pan |
| 04:59.20 | apparle | arunce: but pan is different from bluetooth modem right? |
| 05:00.14 | arunce | apparle: yes. your phone always have the control. |
| 05:00.28 | apparle | ohh.. thanks |
| 05:01.05 | arunce | apparle: with pan you can have net on the phone and other devices without problems. |
| 05:01.15 | arunce | at the same time. |
| 05:01.37 | apparle | arunce: I seem to have it simultaneously anyways |
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| 05:52.09 | elkng | Harri Porten <- =) |
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| 06:36.57 | pingusman | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.27 | pingusman | command date '+%A %d %Y %T' in bash give me wishing results |
| 06:37.40 | pingusman | in the xml file of the theme KDM write "<text>%c</text>" what must change ? |
| 06:37.51 | EffBee | pingusman: Might have to do with the root account's regional settings under KDE |
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| 06:48.14 | pingusman | !xml |
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| 06:50.01 | Marquel | it might also help to set the clock of the system to the year 20011... |
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| 07:24.37 | ox3a | any kde developer or expert person here please? |
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| 07:24.48 | Rhisa | Hi so.. can you guys paste the best KDE screenshots you guys have ever seen? |
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| 07:26.26 | ox3a | Rhisa, are you saying to me? |
| 07:27.13 | Rhisa | Everyone! |
| 07:27.27 | verbalshadow | ox3a: the developer channel is #kde-devel |
| 07:27.40 | verbalshadow | but we can take a shot at helping you |
| 07:28.26 | ox3a | verbalshadow, Sure |
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| 07:29.47 | ox3a | I am trying to make linux base distro (Gnome to Kde). But i need to edit the menu.. manually |
| 07:30.06 | ox3a | But i do not find the way.. how |
| 07:30.15 | verbalshadow | what do you need to edit in the menu? |
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| 07:31.16 | ox3a | verbalshadow, Such as there are some like Multimedia. Now i want to add my own menu |
| 07:32.13 | verbalshadow | for your own apps or distro specific stuff? |
| 07:32.17 | ox3a | I know there is tool called kmenuedit but it wont work for editing menu from mounted iso i think |
| 07:32.30 | ox3a | verbalshadow, yeah |
| 07:32.58 | verbalshadow | ok then you don't need to edit the menu that way |
| 07:33.10 | ox3a | verbalshadow, So? |
| 07:33.19 | verbalshadow | what you will need to do is create .desktop files |
| 07:33.34 | verbalshadow | that point you your apps or links etc |
| 07:34.14 | verbalshadow | i have to find the location to put them just a second or 3 |
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| 07:34.24 | ox3a | verbalshadow, Will it show in K menu to my user? |
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| 07:35.09 | verbalshadow | yes |
| 07:36.47 | ox3a | Can you help me to test it now(I am running kde3 right now) |
| 07:36.53 | ox3a | step by step |
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| 07:37.49 | verbalshadow | this /usr/share/applications/ is where you need to put it |
| 07:38.09 | elkng | how can I download html page using konqueror from command line? there is a javascript that generates me a list of links and any other tools like wget cant interprete javascript, I need allready generated page. |
| 07:39.28 | verbalshadow | ox3a: http://paste.kde.org/2514 this is blender.desktop file modify it to you needs |
| 07:40.00 | verbalshadow | elkng: i normally have kget do that for me |
| 07:40.11 | verbalshadow | but it is GUI |
| 07:40.33 | elkng | I need tool for using it in script |
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| 07:42.08 | verbalshadow | well i can think of ways to to d/l a site without konqueror |
| 07:44.38 | ox3a | verbalshadow, I need to create one or two extra menu-->sub menu . Example : MyMenue--->My Tools--->whois |
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| 07:45.38 | verbalshadow | ox3a: Categories=MyMenue;Tools; |
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| 07:47.26 | ox3a | verbalshadow, I have to write these in text editor and saving them to the location? |
| 07:47.55 | verbalshadow | yes, and make sure to install them |
| 07:47.59 | verbalshadow | night |
| 07:48.58 | ox3a | testing it right now |
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| 07:54.30 | ox3a | verbalshadow, Currently i have two extra menu in kde3 but i do not find these in /usr/share/applications/ |
| 07:54.50 | ox3a | But there are in ~/.config/menus |
| 07:55.00 | ox3a | *they |
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| 08:00.18 | ox3a | verbalshadow, |
| 08:06.33 | ox3a | verbalshadow, You busy please? |
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| 08:52.38 | _Rawr | hi everyone |
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| 08:53.09 | _Rawr | i'm on archlinux and kde4.latest?.. |
| 08:53.10 | _Rawr | why doesn't it work, when i try to reboot/shutdown/logout/etc via the kde menus? |
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| 08:55.46 | _Rawr | okay nvm i found the solution |
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| 09:30.26 | Joint | hey how do i changed the wallpaper and how can i install a new theme? |
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| 09:38.11 | habarnam | Joint: right click on the desktop, pick Desktop Settings from the menu |
| 09:38.18 | habarnam | (^ for changing the wallpaper) |
| 09:38.41 | Joint | hmmm |
| 09:38.44 | Joint | i don't get the option |
| 09:39.01 | Joint | and also how to install a theme? |
| 09:40.17 | habarnam | for themes you need to go to system settings - workspace appearance - Desktop Theme |
| 09:40.36 | habarnam | (all these are for KDE4 ... ) |
| 09:40.45 | habarnam | for KDE3... don't remember :D |
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| 09:42.15 | yecril71pl | would like to print a keyboard shortcuts cheatsheet |
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| 09:54.16 | Joint | still can't change the theme |
| 09:54.16 | Joint | lol |
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| 12:01.19 | skfin | Can I get rid of that device notifyer always prompts on new network shares |
| 12:02.13 | skfin | Its little bit annoying, now I can see over 200 machines there and there are coming more |
| 12:04.01 | pinotree | no, but this upnp stuff has been disabled for kde 4.6 |
| 12:05.12 | bluelightning | skfin: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=92256 |
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| 12:07.41 | skfin | Luckily it has been disabled in 4.6 |
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| 12:32.19 | dziadu | hi guys |
| 12:32.32 | dziadu | i have problem with automounting via UDisks |
| 12:32.48 | dziadu | my kernel have support for AUDITSYSCALL |
| 12:32.53 | dziadu | ConsoleKit is working |
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| 12:33.32 | dziadu | my groups are: disk lp wheel uucp cron audio cdrom dialout video games qemu vboxusers dziadu plugdev |
| 12:33.39 | dziadu | what can be wrong? |
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| 13:03.42 | foormea | hi, i'm running kde 4.5.1 on kubuntu 10.10. i have an issue with kopete: it just won't show in systray. it is activated in systray through kopete, systray is not hiding it, i've also tried playing around with the messaging applet, activating or deactivating the messaging applet won't make a difference |
| 13:03.46 | foormea | any idea? |
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| 13:44.17 | neXyon | hi |
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| 13:45.07 | neXyon | I cannot add device actions in the systemsettings :-/ when I enter the name according to the docs, there should open a second dialog, but it doesn't any clue why? http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kcontrol/solid-actions/index.html |
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| 13:46.15 | neXyon | oh wait, found out: enter is bound to cancel in that dialog, guess that's a bug? |
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| 15:19.52 | markit | hi, I would like to provide to students some cd with kde for windows, so they can try at home some programs (I dubt they will be able to dual boot in a live cd). Is it possible to pre-download all the kde packages? |
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| 15:23.29 | markit | or better, since the installer lets you choose a local dir, where can I find the whole set of files? |
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| 15:26.56 | Jucato | markit: you could try asking in #kde-windows |
| 15:27.03 | aliverius | when i am not moving the mouse kwin eats 1% of cpu. when i just move it between windows (no clicking whatsoever) it goes up to 80% on both cores |
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| 15:27.59 | aliverius | ah now it always eats 2x 55% even with no mouse movement |
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| 15:31.09 | sekisushai | hello, i would add a new folder in kmenuedit |
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| 15:31.39 | sekisushai | ~/.local/share/applications |
| 15:32.13 | ox3a | sekisushai, and? |
| 15:32.28 | sekisushai | i launch kmenuedit |
| 15:32.37 | sekisushai | i "add a new subfolder" |
| 15:32.42 | sekisushai | it ask me the name |
| 15:32.46 | sekisushai | but not the directory.. |
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| 15:35.14 | aliverius | i disactivated direct rendering and it eats much less cpu |
| 15:35.56 | pinotree | sek |
| 15:36.07 | pinotree | wow, already left, no patience... |
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| 15:38.50 | pinotree | sekisushai: ~/.local/share/applications is the user-wide version of /usr/share/applications, so the .desktop applications contained there will be shown as application menu items |
| 15:39.05 | sekisushai | yes |
| 15:39.11 | sekisushai | but it deals with wine appilcations |
| 15:39.20 | sekisushai | they are in a subfolder |
| 15:39.56 | sekisushai | so this was on my menu but I delete by error the entry in kmenuedit, I would reset it |
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| 15:41.00 | pinotree | sekisushai: the subfolders in those directories are not subfolders in the actual menu |
| 15:41.13 | sekisushai | no |
| 15:41.16 | pinotree | yes |
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| 15:42.41 | sekisushai | ? |
| 15:42.46 | pinotree | the actual menu structure is the result of the merging of the stuff in /etc/xdg/menus and ~/.config/menus |
| 15:43.03 | pinotree | what matters is the Categories in each .desktop file |
| 15:44.42 | sekisushai | in ~/.config/menus |
| 15:44.46 | pinotree | at least here, two applications installed with wine created files in ~/.config/menus/appliations-merged/wine*.menu |
| 15:44.57 | sekisushai | yes ! |
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| 15:45.00 | sekisushai | i have this |
| 15:45.04 | sekisushai | but no in my kde menu.. |
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| 15:45.06 | pinotree | those are the structures |
| 15:45.12 | sekisushai | i had ! but i delete it by error |
| 15:45.29 | sekisushai | how to reset the wine applications menu in kde menu.. |
| 15:45.49 | pinotree | that's something to ask in #winehq, i guess |
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| 15:49.47 | ox3a | pinotree, How can i add menu for system-wide? |
| 15:50.18 | ox3a | (folder) |
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| 15:52.33 | pinotree | didn't you get a reply about it some hours ago? |
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| 15:52.56 | feep | hi |
| 15:53.02 | feep | opacity still not supported in konq4.5.4? |
| 15:53.54 | ox3a | pinotree, Yeah i got and i did it but did not work |
| 15:54.06 | ox3a | Perhaps i am missing something |
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| 16:19.08 | carl- | howdy ho there folks .. was some nifty command i used to have to just disable the screensaver from starting while it was active |
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| 17:16.57 | sre-su | How to set default media player in KDE? System Settings> default Applications doesn't contain such options |
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| 17:28.27 | Harrold | I have 2 screens with different resolutions. Once 1920x1080 and 1680x1050, is it possible to get the taskbar aligned equally on both screens? I can see it only half on the 1680x1050 screen. |
| 17:28.46 | cb400f | sre-su: use the file associations |
| 17:29.03 | sre-su | cb400f: And where can I find that? |
| 17:29.09 | cb400f | systemsettings |
| 17:29.27 | sre-su | Thanks |
| 17:30.06 | sre-su | cb400f: Secondly, you see options to open a file under open with... Possible to edit them? |
| 17:30.28 | cb400f | that is exactly what the file associations module does |
| 17:30.34 | sre-su | Alright |
| 17:30.47 | cb400f | the stuff you see under "open with..." are the apps associated with the file type |
| 17:31.33 | cb400f | iirc you can also do "open with" -> "other" -> select some app -> "remember this settings" |
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| 18:58.23 | ox3a | pinotree, |
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| 19:13.56 | jschall | ktorrent doesn't suppress sleep when torrents are running, even though i have the box checked. i googled and found a bug for the issue, but it was an old, fixed bug. any thoughts? using kubuntu 10.10 with kubuntu-ppa for latest version of KDE. |
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| 19:21.41 | jschall | additionally, ps3mediaserver can't suppress suspend either |
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| 19:25.18 | AivarasKivilius | Is it possible to use nautilus in KDE? |
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| 19:28.55 | cb400f | of course |
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| 19:41.36 | govik | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.09 | thiago_home | add it to KDEDIRS |
| 19:43.58 | govik | thiago_home: but where it should be added? |
| 19:44.07 | govik | is etc/kde/env/env.sh good place? |
| 19:45.39 | thiago_home | that is not a KDE file |
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| 19:45.53 | thiago_home | add it to any script launched before startkde or to the ones that startkde sources |
| 19:46.19 | thiago_home | like in ~/.kde/env |
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| 20:10.19 | _mwoodj_ | I am running KDE 4.5.5 in Gentoo. I am playing some games with a gamepad. I can see and calibrate the joystick in the KDE settings. However, when I am playing a game with it the screensaver comes on. Is there a way to have controller activity register as user activity so the screensaver does not come on while using the controller? |
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| 21:05.50 | Irwell | hi guys... does anyone know why kmess might be failing when trying to parse my contact list? |
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| 21:11.48 | botmind | Hi. I've just upgraded from Debian Lenny to Squeeze and it has given me KDE 4.. but it seem to be much more RAM eating?!! can I kill processes like kwin, plasma-desktop...? |
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| 21:13.15 | N9NU | if you kill those, then you deep six KDE |
| 21:13.24 | botmind | kglobalaccel, knotify4, krunner |
| 21:13.48 | N9NU | i always disable notify |
| 21:13.54 | botmind | then it indeed requires MUCH more RAM than KDE 3,5 ? |
| 21:14.07 | N9NU | and Nueopunk or whaterver |
| 21:14.15 | N9NU | and any search crap |
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| 21:14.43 | N9NU | well...im running 4GB and its as fast as a Dodge Viper for me |
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| 21:15.12 | thiago_home | has been running on 2 GB no problems |
| 21:15.15 | thiago_home | it runs on less too |
| 21:15.21 | N9NU | also....go into the Startup and Shutdown options and disable anything thats useless there |
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| 21:15.25 | N9NU | under services |
| 21:15.53 | botmind | 4gb.. that's the very max for today I believe |
| 21:15.58 | N9NU | i mean, why do you need time zone running ?? |
| 21:16.02 | N9NU | just and example |
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| 21:16.17 | N9NU | my system isn't moving from time zone to time zone ;) |
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| 21:16.34 | Irwell | i have all services running with quite a few apps open too and it's not using more than 1gb |
| 21:16.35 | thiago_home | you are in a timezone |
| 21:16.37 | thiago_home | therefore, it runs |
| 21:16.42 | N9NU | i also ditch Free Space notifier, Pwer management, Kmix, K Remore |
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| 21:17.47 | botmind | N9NU: where do you find those "Services" ? |
| 21:18.01 | N9NU | in the KDE systemsetting app |
| 21:18.29 | N9NU | the yellow screwdriver and wrench icon |
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| 21:19.02 | N9NU | from there, then Startup and Shutdfown |
| 21:19.12 | N9NU | then Service Manager |
| 21:19.29 | Irwell | n9nu... i have that icon twice (i know where to go, just thought he might too) |
| 21:19.54 | N9NU | i have 11 disabled |
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| 21:20.11 | botmind | ok I've found.. it's in Advanced tab, Service Manager |
| 21:20.32 | N9NU | yeah..... advanced tab? r u running an older version of KDE? |
| 21:21.05 | N9NU | it dont matter, i just remember the Advanced tab from earlier releases is all |
| 21:21.15 | botmind | N9NU: don't know.. maybe but it's KDE 4 |
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| 21:21.37 | botmind | just the one installed by Debian Squeeze distro |
| 21:22.03 | N9NU | oh ok |
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| 21:24.30 | Irwell | so... does anyone in here know anything about kmess? |
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| 21:27.10 | N9NU | y |
| 21:27.18 | N9NU | oops...wrong channel |
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| 21:44.42 | datenritter | hi! is there a way to turn off dolphin's video-preview? it doesn't seem to respect the size-limit, which causes serious trouble when accessing a network drive. (div. background processes trying to load remote videos blocking the line.) debian squeeze w/ kde 4.4.5 and dolphin 1.4 |
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| 21:52.23 | sdoerner | I thought you had to manually start the video preview playback |
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| 22:08.10 | datenritter | sdoerner: looks like dolphin shows some stills from every video you touch with your mouse pointer |
| 22:08.20 | datenritter | to extract them it scans the whole file. |
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| 22:22.52 | ShadowBelmolve_ | anybody know a good chat app to xmpp/msn?(not kopete, plz) |
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| 22:27.51 | datenritter | ShadowBelmolve_: pidgin |
| 22:28.07 | ShadowBelmolve_ | datenritter: kde app plz .__. |
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| 22:29.03 | datenritter | ShadowBelmolve_: whatever you call an kde app, i use pidgin. |
| 22:29.16 | ShadowBelmolve_ | lol |
| 22:30.05 | aseigo | ShadowBelmolve_: http://kmess.org/ for MSN .. doesn't do jabber, though. |
| 22:31.25 | ShadowBelmolve_ | aseigo: I already have see kmess(my mother use it :P) |
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| 22:33.38 | sdoerner | doesn' t kopete support msn? |
| 22:33.58 | sdoerner | or what else do you dislike about it? |
| 22:34.02 | aseigo | sdoerner: yes, but ShadowBelmolve_ asked for "not kopete" |
| 22:34.19 | ShadowBelmolve_ | sdoerner: yeah, but kopete sucks |
| 22:35.44 | sdoerner | I like it, so I wonder why you don't :) |
| 22:35.45 | ShadowBelmolve_ | sdoerner: lack of some useful features(group chat) and very unstable(4.5 is unstable in my option, but 4.6(RC) is *very* unstable and I'm with KDE 4.6 installed :/) |
| 22:37.23 | sdoerner | Hmm, ok I'm still with 4.5, maybe I ask the same question here in a week ^^ |
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| 23:24.28 | Oleg_ | Hi. I installed the Qtcurve theme for gtk, but when I go to System Settings, I am unable to find where I can switch to the qtcurve theme |
| 23:24.36 | Oleg_ | please tell me how to switch to it |
| 23:25.10 | cb400f | do you have kcm_gtk installed... which is btw. not a part of KDE SC... so you may need to talk to your distro |
| 23:25.23 | alin | Oleg_: application appearance |
| 23:25.44 | alin | Oleg_: style... and voila |
| 23:26.01 | cb400f | alin: that presumes a proper installation :-) |
| 23:26.20 | alin | cb400f: yes... i know... I am an optimist... |
| 23:26.21 | Oleg_ | yeah, it's not there |
| 23:26.51 | alin | cb400f: you play the pessimist tonight |
| 23:27.44 | cb400f | realist... as now proven |
| 23:29.04 | Oleg_ | maybe I need to install this: |
| 23:29.07 | Oleg_ | /usr/ports/x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine |
| 23:29.41 | Oleg_ | but, as I said, I already installed QtCurve |
| 23:30.57 | cb400f | what is not there? .. the systemsettings module.. or is the systemsettings module there, but qtcurve is not an option? |
| 23:31.22 | Oleg_ | Building CXX object kcm_gtk/CMakeFiles/kcm_gtk4.dir/kcmgtk.o |
| 23:31.22 | Oleg_ | cd /usr/ports/x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine/work/gtk-qt-engine/kcm_gtk && /usr/bin/c++ -DMAKE_KCM_GTK4_LIB -DQT_NO_KEYWORDS -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -Woverloaded-virtual -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -O2 -g -DNDEBUG -DQT_NO_DEBUG -fPIC -I/usr/local/kde4/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/qt4/phonon -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtXmlPatterns -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtXml -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtWeb |
| 23:31.22 | Oleg_ | Kit -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtUiTools -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtTest -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtSvg -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtSql -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtScriptTools -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtScript -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtOpenGL -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtNetwork -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtMultimedia -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtHelp -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtDesigner -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtDeclarative -I/usr/local/incl |
| 23:31.26 | Oleg_ | ude/qt4/QtDBus -I/usr/local/include/qt4/Qt3Support -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtGui -I/usr/local/include/qt4/QtCore -I/usr/local/include/qt4/Qt -I/usr/local/share/qt4/mkspecs/default -I/usr/local/include/qt4 -D HAVE_BONOBO -o CMakeFiles/kcm_gtk4.dir/kcmgtk.o -c /usr/ports/x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine/work/gtk-qt-engine/kcm_gtk/kcmgtk.cpp |
| 23:31.30 | Oleg_ | /usr/local/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_report /usr/ports/x11-themes/gtk-qt4-engine/work/gtk-qt-engine/CMakeFiles 4 |
| 23:31.32 | Oleg_ | [ 52%] Building CXX object kcm_gtk/CMakeFiles/kcm_gtk4.dir/gtkrcfile.o |
| 23:31.34 | Oleg_ | oops |
| 23:31.37 | Oleg_ | sorry |
| 23:31.49 | Oleg_ | sorry |
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| 23:34.26 | alin | Oleg_: 20 push ups for that... and 10 times reading !paste rules |
| 23:34.42 | Oleg_ | sorry |
| 23:35.42 | Oleg_ | but QtCurve is still not listed in the Widget Style list |
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| 23:37.59 | Oleg_ | do I need to restart kde to get it listed? |
| 23:38.19 | alin | Oleg_: no... in principle.. what distro are you on? |
| 23:38.30 | Oleg_ | freebsd |
| 23:38.56 | cb400f | restarting systemsettings should be enough I think.. or just run 'kcmshell4 kcmgtk4' |
| 23:39.00 | alin | Oleg_: what did you do wrong to get freebsd? |
| 23:39.13 | cb400f | btw. you should use oxygen-gtk instead of qtcurve ;-) |
| 23:39.55 | alin | cb400f: qtcurve is cool... works for me... |
| 23:40.07 | Oleg_ | cb400f, oxygen-gtk also requires kcm_gtk? |
| 23:40.12 | alin | cb400f: adds transparency to certain emails |
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| 23:40.30 | einar77 | Oleg_: to be set in KDE, IIRC yes |
| 23:40.39 | cb400f | kcm_gtk is not a requirement.. it just makes it easier to set gtk style |
| 23:41.07 | cb400f | hm.. maybe it's necessary.. never tried another way |
| 23:41.12 | alin | cb400f: einar77 all of us are here... what happened? someone farted in opensuse-kde? |
| 23:41.46 | Oleg_ | it says I need to restart kde to make the changes take effect |
| 23:42.08 | Oleg_ | startkde --restart will restart it? |
| 23:42.21 | Oleg_ | or should I type killall -9 startkde and then type startkde again? |
| 23:42.44 | pinotree | or just logout in a clean way? |
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| 23:48.49 | einar77 | alin: just a second before I went to bed, actually :P |
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| 23:49.10 | Oleg_ | thanks, guys |
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| 23:53.18 | Oleg_ | by the way, you need to update the topic |
| 23:53.24 | Oleg_ | 'cause kde 4.5.5 was released |
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| 23:54.48 | alin | Oleg_: you still avoided my question... what did you do wrong to use freebsd? |
| 23:55.46 | Oleg_ | actually, all desktop effects work on freebsd kde, but not all of them worked on linux kde |
| 23:56.09 | alin | Oleg_: that is a driver issue... what card? |
| 23:56.11 | Oleg_ | alin, I still can play blu-rays using mplayer on freebsd |
| 23:56.16 | Oleg_ | nvidia gt 220 |
| 23:56.34 | alin | Oleg_: strange... with their driver shoudl be fine |
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