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| 00:42.04 | cmk_zzz | Hi, I have tried to find information on the net but have not found any. Is it possible to have KDE4 virtual desktop setup so that they are displayed on different monitors? |
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| 00:56.19 | aseigo | cmk_zzz: each monitor gets its own widget layout, but virtual desktops theselves span all monitors |
| 00:56.31 | aseigo | doesn't particularly see any benefit to per-screen virtual desktops, tbh |
| 01:00.39 | cmk_zzz | aseigo: Ok thanks. The benfit is that it would be much easier to swap between applications and to send them to different monitors. Perhaps this can be done with activities? I.e. Ctrl+N to send the window to next activity. |
| 01:01.35 | aseigo | cmk_zzz: shortcuts for "to screen" is a long time wishlist item for kwin; i don't think it's been implemented yet. but you're not the first to ask for it. (multiscreen always needs more devs :) |
| 01:03.36 | cmk_zzz | aseigo: Thanks for the information. |
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| 01:16.02 | Guest73042 | hello to all. who can help me? I have some problems with install plasmoids, servicemenus, kdm themes and splashscreens |
| 01:17.44 | Guest73042 | anybody!!! |
| 01:20.22 | aseigo | Guest73042: you mean through Get Hot New Stuff, or? |
| 01:21.48 | Guest73042 | yes, i dont see the downloaded items in list |
| 01:25.38 | aseigo | Guest73042: the different kinds of addons use different means of installing; the most likely explanations include: the downloads are failing, the install to disk is failing or post-install routines (like running kbuildsycoca4) are failing. |
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| 01:26.44 | aseigo | Guest73042: if you run the app from konsole (e.g. kcmshell4 kdm) you should see any errors print out on the konsole |
| 01:27.05 | aseigo | (errors may also appear in the "new stuff" dialog itself, though the console output is often more detailed) |
| 01:27.57 | Guest73042 | if i manually copy files to directory ~.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ then ServiceMenus are working good and other in the same way |
| 01:28.01 | aseigo | since all of those are failing, it sounds like something wrong with knewstuff on your system, rather than the individual apps. |
| 01:28.38 | aseigo | Guest73042: well, yes. :) and if you perform the process i suggested, we may get an insight as to why the automatic download-and-install process is failing on your system |
| 01:31.10 | Guest73042 | i run dolphin with konsole, and there are no warnings or errors |
| 01:31.20 | Guest73042 | but his do nothing |
| 01:32.02 | Guest73042 | dont install new items, only download to /home/syl/.kde/share/apps/servicemenu-download/ |
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| 01:36.56 | Guest73042 | in other stuff in the same way |
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| 01:38.30 | Guest73042 | Does anyone know what the problem is? |
| 01:39.42 | aseigo | and you have the servicemenuinstallation program installed? |
| 01:40.21 | Droste | is there a way to force kwin to enable compositing? I mean really force... even if it thinks it shouldn't do it? (kde 4.6rc2) |
| 01:40.24 | aseigo | and if so, if you run: servicementinstallation ~/.kde/shareapps/servicemenu-download/<somedowloadedfile> does it work? |
| 01:42.30 | Guest73042 | if i manually extract files from archive in .kde/share/apps/servicemenu-download/ to ~.kde/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ then its working |
| 01:43.03 | Guest73042 | I have kubuntu 10.10 and KDE 4.5.5 |
| 01:43.27 | aseigo | Droste: you can put DisableChecks=true into the kwinrc in the [Compositing] group |
| 01:43.44 | aseigo | Droste: sometimes that makes things work, but if things freeze up you're on your own :) |
| 01:43.53 | Droste | did that. it still disables them |
| 01:44.02 | N9NU | dumb ? - I need to allow outgoing access to ftp.hotfile.com which has 74.120.8.80.x and 74.120.8.y - there are several #'s for x and y, so do i need to allow each bunch with a /xx number at the end for a subnet |
| 01:44.10 | aseigo | Guest73042: can you please do what i asked? |
| 01:44.10 | Droste | OpenGLIsUnsafe is also set to false |
| 01:44.36 | N9NU | yes i realize this is KDE |
| 01:45.11 | Guest73042 | Droste: Yes, check the option "disable the internal audit" in win effects settings |
| 01:45.33 | aseigo | Guest73042: that's the DisableChecks=true setting, yes... |
| 01:46.26 | Droste | aseigo: http://paste.kde.org/2878/ <-- this is how the Composite group looks like currently |
| 01:47.15 | Guest73042 | <aseigo> I do not understand what I should do |
| 01:48.02 | aseigo | Guest73042: run: servicemenuinstallation ~/.kde/shareapps/servicemenu-download/<somedowloadedfile> |
| 01:48.17 | aseigo | if it's downloading but not installing, then that's the culprit |
| 01:48.25 | aseigo | if the command line tool actually works, then knewstuff isn't running it |
| 01:48.49 | aseigo | (which would lead me to suspect that you are using a version prior to when that feature was introduced, but with newer apps?) |
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| 01:51.06 | junfan | Anyone know how to get multiple icon rows in the plasma panel? I've seen screenshots not using a launcher to do it and found mail list messages with people saying it works, but for the life of me can't figure it out. |
| 01:51.53 | Guest73042 | /usr/bin/env: ruby: ÐÐµÑ Ñакого Ñайла или каÑалога (file not found) |
| 01:52.10 | Guest73042 | i must install ruby? |
| 01:56.03 | Guest73042 | i install ruby and run command again, but i got message "Installation error" |
| 01:57.18 | Guest73042 | aseigo are iu there? |
| 01:57.28 | Guest73042 | aseigo are you there?* |
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| 02:27.12 | HandyGandy | Is there a way to change the wallpaper/ bring up the desktop effects dialog from the commandline? |
| 02:29.13 | N9NU | ; |
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| 02:30.13 | HandyGandy | I can get system settings with the "systemsettings" command, there must be something similar for desktop settings. |
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| 02:56.08 | EffBee | Suddenly, no images are loading for me in Akregator. What might be the cause of this? |
| 02:56.28 | EffBee | Not loading in Konqueror either |
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| 03:25.26 | rambam | Where do I change the display from MiB (base 2) to MB (base 10)? |
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| 03:31.41 | aseigo | rambam: i believe in the country/region & languages control panel |
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| 03:31.51 | aseigo | rambam: (alt+f2, languges -> it should appear in the list :) |
| 03:32.09 | aseigo | EffBee: khtml error, or qt compiled without jpg or png support |
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| 03:33.57 | rambam | aseigo: I just checked it, but couldn't find anything related to that.. |
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| 03:35.12 | EffBee | aseigo: Could be. Laptop uses stable, desktop KDE unstable, and the problem isn't visible on my desktop |
| 03:35.26 | EffBee | 4.7.1-3 versus 4.7.1-4 |
| 03:35.39 | aseigo | rambam: it's on the "Other" tab |
| 03:35.48 | aseigo | rambam: Byte size units |
| 03:35.55 | aseigo | (as opposed to units that are bite sized? ;) |
| 03:35.59 | EffBee | What I'm thinking it might be though is video drivers |
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| 03:36.48 | EffBee | I upgraded xorg-intel and friends because I was having a very annoying issue with unreliable initialization of composited pop-up windows |
| 03:37.46 | rambam | aseigo: No, really, I can't see anything like that.. I'm on Fedora 14 / KDE 4.5.5 |
| 03:38.52 | aseigo | shrugs |
| 03:39.03 | aseigo | i'm using 4.6, but i figured that was there already in early 4.x releases even? |
| 03:40.09 | rambam | Is it under; locale, numbers, money, time & dates, other? I only see those 5.. |
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| 03:40.48 | aseigo | rambam: it's under Other |
| 03:40.54 | aseigo | (as i already noted) |
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| 03:41.57 | rambam | oh, right, haha. but no, only; paper format, measure system. |
| 03:44.24 | rambam | Nah, it's only in 4.6 |
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| 09:04.02 | Marquel | morning. |
| 09:04.22 | Marquel | can i tell an application to use another color scheme than the rest of the desktop? |
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| 09:08.07 | pinotree | don't think you can |
| 09:09.02 | Marquel | :( |
| 09:11.21 | alin | Marquel: what app |
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| 09:11.55 | alin | Marquel: and what do you mean by colour scheme? |
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| 09:14.30 | Marquel | alin: qgit. and i mean that my system runs on obsidian black color theme but qgit is not very dark-background-friendly (read: can't read most of it). |
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| 09:14.54 | alin | Marquel: cool the same problem as me |
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| 09:15.38 | Marquel | (and no, standard theme is not an option, as in standard my k-menu has white text on lightgrey background.... |
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| 09:16.47 | alin | Marquel: I am afraid not too much can be done... |
| 09:17.27 | alin | Marquel: just try to report bugs against... a lot of devs simple ignore accessibility and usability issues... |
| 09:17.59 | Marquel | alin: well, qgit misses color set up at all.... |
| 09:19.17 | alin | Marquel: yes... that is why I stopped using it after few minutes |
| 09:21.48 | Marquel | alin: well, qgit's graph is better than any other graph tool i've seen so far :/ |
| 09:21.58 | Marquel | (not that i need that thing so badly....) |
| 09:22.57 | alin | Marquel: I cannot start kdevelop at the moment... but have you checked it? |
| 09:23.19 | Marquel | alin: yep. |
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| 09:23.51 | Marquel | alin: kdev produces a "graph" but that does not show departure/merges of branches. |
| 09:24.12 | talespin_kit | hi all, what is the shortcut to display a window in full screen |
| 09:24.35 | alin | Marquel: git-cola? |
| 09:24.47 | Marquel | just that a commit has not happened in current branch. |
| 09:25.48 | Marquel | alin: compiling... |
| 09:25.53 | alin | Marquel: https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Interfaces,_frontends,_and_tools#Summary_.28feature_matrix.29 |
| 09:26.30 | alin | Marquel: if you want qt stuff there are not too many... choose one that seems active develop and speak with the devs |
| 09:27.33 | alin | Marquel: some of them are simple not aware about the accessibility issues... but once told they will try to fix... others will simple ignore... the issue |
| 09:27.45 | Marquel | alin: well, i am against the torture of gnome, but not fixed to qt. |
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| 09:29.10 | alin | Marquel: then a gtk took will do the trick... as a lot of times they simple ignore the kde theme |
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| 09:38.29 | Marquel | alin: if i weren't reluctant to use gtk-tools.... i think gtk is a usability catastrophe by itself ;) |
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| 11:05.47 | aksr | is it possible to create shortcut for "restore from trash" ? |
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| 11:42.29 | yecril71pl | The node for Konqueror in KHelpCenter content tree is called "File Manager (administrator mode)" |
| 11:42.56 | yecril71pl | The icon is Konquerorâs but the title is wrong |
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| 11:45.16 | yecril71pl | Dolphin manual does not describe how to empty the trash manually |
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| 11:45.43 | annma | yecril71pl: what would you write then? |
| 11:46.14 | yecril71pl | There is a command to move a file to the trash. |
| 11:46.31 | yecril71pl | And there is an option to empty the trash automatically. |
| 11:46.43 | yecril71pl | In either position, an instruction how to empty the trash by hand. |
| 11:47.38 | annma | you mean right click on trash bin and select 'Empty'? |
| 11:47.58 | yecril71pl | If that is the preferred way, yes. |
| 11:48.09 | annma | what prefered |
| 11:48.18 | annma | what's your roblem exactly? |
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| 11:48.39 | annma | in Dolphin I go to Trasjh to see what's there |
| 11:49.03 | annma | then I right click and choose 'Empty' |
| 11:49.11 | yecril71pl | So do I, but the concept of Trash and the instructions to handle it are not described in the manual for Dolphin. |
| 11:49.19 | annma | I am not sure what you mean by "manually" |
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| 11:49.23 | aksr | yecril71pl: keyboard shortcut ? |
| 11:49.31 | annma | what instructions? |
| 11:49.41 | annma | what do you want more? |
| 11:49.54 | yecril71pl | The trash is a place where Dolphin stores files that you do not need. |
| 11:50.03 | annma | what do you mean by "how to empty the trash by hand" |
| 11:50.26 | annma | the trash is where removed files files before being deleted |
| 11:50.29 | yecril71pl | The command to effect the transition from the state of trash full to the state of trash empty. |
| 11:50.38 | aksr | is it possible to create keyboard shortcut for "restore from trash" ? |
| 11:50.41 | annma | what about right click |
| 11:50.55 | annma | yecril71pl: what about right click |
| 11:51.00 | yecril71pl | The context menu is not described either. |
| 11:51.14 | annma | so send a patch to the manual |
| 11:51.34 | annma | look at it and add sentences and send it |
| 11:51.35 | yecril71pl | (Indeed, the Dolphin manual does not describe standard Places at all). |
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| 11:51.37 | Fale | hi |
| 11:51.44 | Xerdies | howdi |
| 11:51.50 | annma | yecril71pl: just send your text |
| 11:52.15 | yecril71pl | Moreover, I would like Dolphin to add a menu item to the File menu while in Trash. |
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| 11:52.47 | yecril71pl | And the purpose of the command would be to empty the Trash. |
| 11:53.01 | annma | where? |
| 11:53.14 | annma | it's already there in right click |
| 11:53.26 | Fale | The ViGLug is planning a pretty big event in May in Settala (Milan, Italy) and we would be interested in a speackman from KDE. Is there someone that could? Or, where can I ask? |
| 11:53.32 | yecril71pl | Yes, there is. I would like it to be in the File menu as well. |
| 11:53.41 | annma | in the file menu? |
| 11:53.51 | annma | is this a good design |
| 11:53.58 | yecril71pl | In the File menu, while Dolphin is displaying Trash. |
| 11:54.12 | annma | yes. Is this a good design implementation |
| 11:54.23 | yecril71pl | Well, maybe it is, maybe it is not. I just say I would expect it to be there. |
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| 11:54.28 | annma | changing menu |
| 11:54.33 | annma | you expect |
| 11:54.37 | annma | research it |
| 11:54.43 | annma | read about design |
| 11:55.12 | annma | then submit a bug report to dolphin as a wish with your design theory |
| 11:55.20 | yecril71pl | annma: What would you recommend me to read? |
| 11:55.30 | annma | anything about GUI design |
| 11:55.51 | annma | think: everyone wants this or that |
| 11:56.00 | yecril71pl | has read something about GUI design |
| 11:56.04 | annma | you want this, I want that, often it's not even compatible* |
| 11:56.26 | annma | we, KDE devels, implement what we think is the best for all users |
| 11:56.37 | annma | it's being researched |
| 11:56.53 | annma | the function you want is already there |
| 11:57.25 | yecril71pl | Where is the research that says that all useful things should be inaccessible from keyboard? |
| 11:57.39 | annma | inaccessible? |
| 11:57.53 | annma | what is inaccessible? |
| 11:57.59 | yecril71pl | If the command is in the menu, I can access the menu from keyboard. |
| 11:58.32 | yecril71pl | If it is not, I do not know how to get at it, unless I switch to mouse. |
| 11:58.41 | annma | you can't access contxt menus? |
| 11:58.53 | annma | context |
| 11:59.02 | yecril71pl | How do I access context menus using keyboard? |
| 11:59.21 | yecril71pl | (Mouse emulation with keyboard is too slow and inaccurate) |
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| 12:01.34 | annma | if you cannot access any right click menu, it's not a dolphin problem |
| 12:02.25 | yecril71pl | I can access context menus with right click, but not with the keyboard. |
| 12:02.48 | annma | so it's not dolphin problem |
| 12:03.17 | yecril71pl | First of all, it is my problem. |
| 12:03.29 | yecril71pl | And the problem occurs not only in Dolphin, of course. |
| 12:03.37 | yecril71pl | But it occurs in Dolphin too. |
| 12:04.08 | yecril71pl | annma: can you access context menus using keyboard? |
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| 12:04.39 | annma | I never use keybpard so I would not know, I need to research it |
| 12:05.05 | yecril71pl | annma: You told me that KDE GUI is based on research. |
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| 12:05.20 | annma | yes, this is accessibility team |
| 12:05.28 | yecril71pl | So I guess this has already been done, hasnât it? |
| 12:05.37 | annma | keyboard navigation is accessibility |
| 12:05.54 | yecril71pl | That is just what I complained about: INACCESSIBLE. |
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| 12:17.18 | BajK_ | I dont always want to open bluedevil's settings |
| 12:17.24 | BajK_ | is there no entry in its context menu? |
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| 13:20.38 | thomasjfox | hello. Is there anything known about crashing kio_imap processes in kmail 1.13.5 / KDE 4.5.5? It crashes for me very often on folder access, already reconfigured the account. |
| 13:20.38 | thomasjfox | If not, I'd like to debug it. Is there a way to tell kmail to start just one kio_imap instance so I can attach gdb? |
| 13:25.20 | annma | do you have the crash backtrace? |
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| 13:26.02 | thomasjfox | annma: Unfortunately not, I just get the "kio_imap died" dialog in kmail |
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| 13:26.30 | thomasjfox | I just rebuilt the kdepim rpm from Fedora 14 to have proper -debuginfo |
| 13:26.54 | annma | so it's not a crash |
| 13:27.14 | thomasjfox | Ok. But the imap protocol helper still dies :) |
| 13:28.40 | thomasjfox | gdb tells me it's a segfault |
| 13:28.50 | thomasjfox | (found the right process by chance) |
| 13:31.20 | annma | so when you have debug symbols get a backtrace |
| 13:31.55 | thomasjfox | That's the plan. I just found out I need to rebuild "kdepimlibs", too. |
| 13:32.30 | thomasjfox | Can kio_imap be started standalone? So one could run it inside valgrind? |
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| 13:33.21 | cmot | Yodel! |
| 13:33.28 | cmot | I'm struggling to find KDE's git |
| 13:33.34 | cmot | http://git.kde.org: connection refused. |
| 13:33.43 | cmot | http://kde.org/community/getinvolved/development/ |
| 13:33.52 | cmot | links to http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Unstable_Version |
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| 13:33.58 | cmot | which still ist mostly about svn |
| 13:34.17 | annma | cmot: explain what you are trying to do |
| 13:34.48 | annma | and what you mean by KDE's git |
| 13:35.21 | pinotree | cmot: http://projects.kde.org/projects or http://gitweb.kde.org |
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| 13:36.37 | annma | and if you want to build trunk, please read the Note in the techbase link you mentioned |
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| 13:37.31 | cmot | annma: I'm Debian package maintainer of the webkit kpart, I wanted to check if there is a newer version available that builds against KDE 4.4 or at least 4.5 |
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| 13:37.37 | cmot | pinotree: thanks |
| 13:37.49 | cmot | (can't git.kde.org redirect to gitweb?) |
| 13:38.21 | annma | is webkit part in extragear? |
| 13:38.37 | cmot | it was in extragear svn$ |
| 13:38.40 | cmot | I just found it |
| 13:38.44 | cmot | http://gitweb.kde.org/kwebkitpart.git |
| 13:38.44 | annma | so it's still there |
| 13:38.59 | annma | what a mess |
| 13:39.13 | cmot | it's your mess, not mine |
| 13:39.18 | cmot | (you == the kde community) |
| 13:39.21 | cmot | :-) |
| 13:39.23 | pinotree | annma: which mess? |
| 13:39.23 | annma | cmot: normally svn co gitpart from old mlocation should tell you new git location |
| 13:39.34 | annma | some stuff moved |
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| 13:40.14 | cmot | annma: I just occasionally package a new version, I don't do KDE developent and/or closely follow KDE, so I'm not familiar with the various tools. |
| 13:40.39 | annma | cmot: the move to git is only partial currently |
| 13:41.25 | cmot | I see Dawit recently committed something in the git repo I saw, so it seems to be the one I want. |
| 13:41.29 | cmot | is happy enough for the moment |
| 13:41.34 | annma | hmmm |
| 13:41.41 | cmot | (once I finally figure out how to use git, that is) |
| 13:41.49 | annma | shouldn't you use releases for distribution? |
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| 13:42.04 | cmot | is extragear stuff really "released"? |
| 13:42.11 | annma | no |
| 13:42.22 | annma | extragear in svn or git is development |
| 13:42.38 | annma | meaning you can be at the beginning of a new cycle |
| 13:42.53 | annma | usually extragear apps are released as tarballs |
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| 13:43.07 | annma | when there're ready and when translations are done |
| 13:45.05 | annma | maybe there are no stable releases yet |
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| 13:45.47 | cmot | annma: I'm occasionally in touch with the kwebkitpart people and they were aware that I was packaging from svn revisions at random intervals |
| 13:46.05 | cmot | so I guess they're at least not opposed to that |
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| 14:08.03 | thomasjfox | annma: Backtrace of the crash: http://pastie.org/1480790 |
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| 14:47.23 | eldowan | I was referred here by #kubuntu: I've currently got kde4.5 running, but would like to get a parallel install of kde3.5 on my system. I'm not to fond of the new style, and I can't seem to find my feet on it, even after trying to get used to kde4 for quite a while now. Is there a way to keep both installed on the same system? |
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| 14:59.26 | mokoloko | eldowan try plastique as a applications style, aya plasma theme and set your desktop as a "folder view" from desktop settings :) that should make it more familiar for you |
| 15:00.07 | eldowan | mokoloko: oh, interesting. |
| 15:00.38 | eldowan | The activities on the desktop really irritated me. Thanks for the suggestion, and when I get home tonight I will try it out. |
| 15:01.10 | cb400f | eldowan: I guess you can compile kde3 into a different prefix.. if you seriously think that's easier than learning kde4 |
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| 15:01.42 | alin | cb400f: lerning? that is a missuse of the term... is about using... |
| 15:02.25 | mokoloko | eldowan u can get rid all of them and have it look and behave like kde3 very easily while enjoying more resent apps :) |
| 15:03.25 | eldowan | cb400f: hmm.. I'll keep that in mind. I'm guessing I'll give it another go, and see if kde4 starts to grow on me. |
| 15:03.30 | eldowan | mokoloko: nice. |
| 15:03.46 | mokoloko | oh there's plastik window decoration also :P |
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| 15:05.45 | eldowan | mokoloko: your name reminds me of a wonderful time I had in Maui on my honeymoon. |
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| 15:07.13 | eldowan | mokoloko: your name reminds me of a wonderful time I had in Maui on my honeymoon. |
| 15:07.49 | mokoloko | :D haha great |
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| 15:09.39 | ahel | hiall!I was looking for a sotware that check for me if i made integer, taylor and derivates function exactly |
| 15:09.46 | ahel | any hints |
| 15:09.49 | ahel | ? |
| 15:12.13 | annma | we have 2 matheatical tools |
| 15:12.19 | annma | KmPlot and Cantor |
| 15:12.49 | annma | KmPlot plots and Cantor is a frontend to Maxima, R, Sage |
| 15:12.55 | annma | we also have KAlgebra |
| 15:13.15 | ahel | i know kalgebra |
| 15:13.31 | ahel | now i 'm gonna look for cantor |
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| 15:15.24 | annma | you need R or Maxima or Sage |
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| 15:28.03 | ahel | so doesn't kalgebra+cantor fit my necessity(derive and integrate function)? |
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| 15:30.09 | annma | ahel: Cantor with Maxima backend |
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| 15:30.30 | ahel | ok |
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| 15:30.36 | ahel | ty for your time |
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| 15:57.38 | Huskypaw | test |
| 15:57.48 | Huskypaw | My taskbar area for minimized applications is gone, how can I restore it? |
| 15:58.06 | pinotree | add a "task manager" widget to the panel |
| 16:00.04 | BajK_ | what else can I do to sped up my mom's kubuntu? Pentium 4 3,0 GHz with HT, ATI Radeon 9000 with 64 MB, 1.5 GB ram |
| 16:00.17 | Huskypaw | pinotree, no I'm not talking of the task manager |
| 16:00.30 | BajK_ | i disabled nepomuk, strigi and this stuff, ttys 3 through 6, now I try prelinking (since it sped up my notebook significantly) |
| 16:00.36 | Huskypaw | I mean those small icons on the right next to the clock which appear when you minimized smth. |
| 16:00.51 | pinotree | the system tray wiget, then? |
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| 16:03.38 | Huskypaw | Yaaay! |
| 16:03.48 | Huskypaw | Yes pinotree exactly that, please. :3 |
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| 16:47.34 | RoozbehOnline | hey everybody ! i have kde 4.6 rc2 but konversation in my system tray is like this : http://wstaw.org/m/2011/01/20/snapshot2.png |
| 16:47.45 | RoozbehOnline | how can i fix this ? |
| 16:48.00 | RoozbehOnline | it's from kde 4.6 or konversation ? |
| 16:49.06 | daedaluz | KDE 4.6 rc2, kpartition clears partition table but requires remount before it's able to make filesystem on media |
| 16:49.57 | cb400f | kde partition manager is not part of SC.. it's extragear |
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| 16:53.16 | Damnshock | RoozbehOnline: you mean the dbus name? |
| 16:53.29 | Damnshock | that is org.kde.whatever... |
| 16:54.02 | RoozbehOnline | Damnshock: yes |
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| 16:57.07 | Damnshock | I guess it's a rc2 bug rather than konversation's fault |
| 16:58.28 | RoozbehOnline | Damnshock: even i compiled latest version of konversation but no effect |
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| 17:00.29 | Damnshock | that's why I say it's a rc2 bug rather than konversation's |
| 17:00.30 | Damnshock | ;) |
| 17:00.41 | cb400f | worksforme |
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| 17:00.55 | cb400f | konvi 1.3.1 + 4.6rc2 |
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| 17:16.30 | pulaski | Hello, I recently updated to kubuntu 10.10 and kde 4.5.95 on my amd64 box. Default Power Management appears broken. If I leave my box for 30 minutes or so it used to go to 'sleep' but I could bring it back with a click or touch any key. Now I have to reboot to bring it back. Is this an issue anyone else has experienced? Also where can I find the Service Manage module where I can configure power management? |
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| 17:20.54 | pulaski | I have just found Power Management in System Settings. But can anyone comment about the possibly broken power management in kde 4.5.95 on the amd64? |
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| 17:23.23 | Damnshock | pulaski: I doubt it's kde related |
| 17:23.32 | Damnshock | probably is due to your update to kubuntu 10.10 |
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| 17:27.37 | pulaski | Damnshock: Thanks for responding. I was looking in the KDE Help Center where I learned about the Sevice Manager Module. Is the Power Management function under Hardware in the System Settings the same thing as the Service Manager Module mentioned in the KDE Help Center? |
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| 17:31.08 | |Zax| | There is a program that can manage multiple connections inside of a single window (rdp, rdc, etc..) and I cannot remember the name of it. Does anyone know the name of this program? |
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| 17:32.37 | Damnshock | pulaski: I honestly do not know :( |
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| 17:35.45 | pulaski | Damnshock: As I go through the Power Management function of System Settings Hardware it looks like the same thing as described in the KDE Help Center. There's nothing there to control the method of reactivating kde after it goes to 'sleep' so you're probably right about it being a kubuntu thing. I'll check that out. Thanks for your help Damnshock. |
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| 17:42.02 | thewanderer1 | hi. should KDE launch 2 MySQL processes that use the same data dir? |
| 17:42.29 | thewanderer1 | one was detached and now runs as init's direct child, while the other is apparently a child of akonadi_something |
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| 18:01.54 | rdieter_work | thewanderer1: should be just 1 (it is on my box) |
| 18:01.58 | rdieter_work | from akonadi |
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| 18:03.02 | thewanderer1 | well, Akonadi is giving me strange errors and breaks KMail |
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| 18:05.25 | cb400f | thewanderer1: what versions? ... tried a new user? |
| 18:05.53 | thewanderer1 | I'll check with a new user |
| 18:05.56 | thewanderer1 | 4.4.5 |
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| 18:09.45 | thewanderer1 | ok, my test user only launches 1 MySQL |
| 18:09.53 | thewanderer1 | thewanderer now has 3 instances and lots of errors in the log |
| 18:10.30 | thewanderer1 | I don't know how to fix this... |
| 18:10.51 | cb400f | maybe try (re)moving ~/.config/akonadi/ |
| 18:11.09 | cb400f | when akonadi is not running of course |
| 18:11.18 | thewanderer1 | hm, ok... |
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| 18:12.30 | thorgt | hello guys |
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| 18:12.54 | thorgt | do you know how to disable akonadi completely in kde 4.5.5 so that it wouldn't even start? |
| 18:12.55 | ZXDunny | hello all, is anyone able to help with a small problem in KDE 4.5? |
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| 18:13.17 | thewanderer1 | it's not working, I still have 3 MySQL daemons |
| 18:13.33 | rdieter_work | thewanderer1: akonadictl stop (should stop some/all of those) |
| 18:13.56 | thewanderer1 | it stopped one of them, 2 still up |
| 18:14.00 | ZXDunny | It's just that I'm getting these very ugly looking transparent "things" made of horizontal bars around menus, tooltips (in non-plasma things) |
| 18:14.08 | ZXDunny | and was wondering how to turn them off :) |
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| 18:14.13 | rdieter_work | thorgt: don't run any apps that access your kde address book, and akonadi shouldn't start |
| 18:14.36 | thorgt | well I stop it in the servces |
| 18:14.45 | thorgt | tab of the KDE system settings |
| 18:14.53 | thorgt | and use only Opera mail |
| 18:15.02 | thewanderer1 | well was that message intended for me? |
| 18:15.04 | Walex | BTW whoever thought up about Akonadi etc: always, always always ask yourself: "is this good for kapt |
| 18:15.09 | Walex | BTW whoever thought up about Akonadi etc: always, always always ask yourself: "is this good for laptops?" |
| 18:15.36 | cb400f | akonadi is running fine on mobile phones.. so laptops should be able to handle it ;-) |
| 18:15.42 | thorgt | rdieter_work: thank you fo rthe idea, I'll try to find the guilty one |
| 18:15.58 | Walex | more precisely, whenever someone does a bit of GUI, ask yourself: what about laptops, power saving, no network access? |
| 18:16.07 | thewanderer1 | well on my laptop I was running GNOME cause most "laptopish" parts like XTest for cellwriter and network-manager interface were broken :P |
| 18:16.24 | rdieter_work | thorgt: possible culprits include: krunner contacts plugin, konversation (I think) |
| 18:16.24 | Walex | cb400f: one vital detail: what about waking up the disk? |
| 18:16.42 | thewanderer1 | well. I'm running Konversation, for one |
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| 18:17.27 | Walex | in KDE3 one of the most amusing ironies had to do with the battery monitor: it would write the battery status to a file every 30 seconds or so. Not very funny. |
| 18:17.43 | thorgt | rdieter_work: I don't even see a contacs runner :) Nepomuk yes, it's there |
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| 18:18.31 | thorgt | will be back in ten minutes |
| 18:18.50 | Walex | more preaching: if you are developer, at least occasionally run your app with 'sysctl vm/block_dump=1' to see what kind of background disk traffic it generates. |
| 18:19.00 | ZXDunny | anyone help at all? Don't mean to be pushy, but I just cannot find any info about it on the net :( |
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| 18:19.42 | thewanderer1 | ZXDunny: turn off compositing (Shift-Alt-F12), see if it was them |
| 18:19.47 | ZXDunny | ok |
| 18:20.04 | ZXDunny | yes, that seems to have removed them |
| 18:20.13 | ZXDunny | I suppose that narrows things down a bit :) |
| 18:20.19 | thewanderer1 | then you probably have a buggy graphics driver... |
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| 18:20.23 | thewanderer1 | or a strange GPU |
| 18:20.24 | Walex | ZXDunny: my suggestion about asking for help: repeat your question *in full* but not more often than every 5-10 minutes. In *full* because it scrolls by |
| 18:20.39 | ZXDunny | thanks Walex |
| 18:20.50 | ZXDunny | it could be, I'm running on an ATI x1250 here |
| 18:21.02 | thewanderer1 | well, I never had any luck with ATI at all :P |
| 18:21.07 | Walex | ZXDunny: compositing is the devil. It involves doing stupid programming tricks, and its implementation enormously complicates the X server. The cool effects are not worth it. |
| 18:21.22 | ZXDunny | all other shadows and effects work fine, but it's just these awful things that are bugging me :) |
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| 18:21.30 | thewanderer1 | is now running nouveau driver which lacks Composite extension... luckily |
| 18:21.39 | thewanderer1 | well... disable shadows? |
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| 18:21.59 | thewanderer1 | why would you need shadows on the desktop anyway? it's flat :P |
| 18:22.03 | ZXDunny | gives it a try |
| 18:22.06 | Walex | If all the effort geeks have put into doing a half-assed compositing implementation had instead optimized and streamlined the existing X driver... but cool is cool, and improving things is uncool. |
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| 18:22.43 | Walex | sorry, I should have written "half a dozen half assed compositing implementations". |
| 18:22.48 | ZXDunny | well, that *is* odd |
| 18:22.57 | ZXDunny | I disabled shadows in the Desktop Effects settings |
| 18:23.11 | ZXDunny | and shadows are still present under windows, but have gone from the tooltips et al |
| 18:23.12 | ZXDunny | thanks ! |
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| 18:24.44 | thewanderer1 | hey, KMail is more stable now |
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| 18:34.50 | thewanderer1 | oh great, applying a filter crashes KMail |
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| 18:36.55 | thewanderer1 | think I'll resort to mutt... |
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| 18:47.24 | Walex | thewanderer1: KMail etc. are pretty good. It depends also how recent is your release. That said. Mutt is great and on stability too. |
| 18:48.38 | thewanderer1 | well, I'm on KDE 4.5.5... |
| 18:48.40 | thewanderer1 | err 4.4.5 |
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| 20:51.51 | ponto | Am I the only one who has problems with the missing pixels in the corners of the oxygen window decoration? |
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| 21:29.30 | ahel | hello everyone. does anyone of you know a way to wake up a netbook at a certain hour? |
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| 21:32.48 | thewanderer1 | plug it into a network wire, suspend so that it receives magic packets, wake over ethernet |
| 21:33.00 | thewanderer1 | or if your one supports that, set it in BIOS |
| 21:33.53 | ahel | ty #thewanderer1 |
| 21:34.27 | ahel | i'd think the only way was a bios |
| 21:34.58 | MinceR | ahel: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ACPI_Wakeup |
| 21:35.10 | MinceR | i used to use the /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm trick |
| 21:35.18 | MinceR | when i used my netbook as an alarm clock |
| 21:35.39 | MinceR | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wake-cron.html seems to suggest a command-line utility to do the same |
| 21:37.14 | ahel | really thank you MinceR |
| 21:37.20 | MinceR | np |
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| 21:41.17 | ahel | THAT was what i was looking for! ty again |
| 21:41.26 | ahel | bye |
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| 21:44.53 | palo | i got a problem with desktop effects in fedora kde spin ? how can I enable it |
| 21:44.55 | palo | ? |
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| 22:10.56 | deadeyes | can I ask my kde development questions here? |
| 22:13.53 | saidinesh5 | deadeyes: #kde-devel ... this is the place for you |
| 22:13.55 | saidinesh5 | :) |
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| 22:14.31 | deadeyes | saidinesh5: thanks! |
| 22:14.56 | saidinesh5 | :) |
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| 22:23.32 | Vhozard | anyone knows how to make file transfers via msn fast? |
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| 22:25.07 | thiago_ny | send email :-) |
| 22:25.15 | Vhozard | -_- |
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| 22:39.16 | mssola | hi there, in search and launch workspace, is there any way to remove the panel ? |
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| 23:08.12 | morpheus_pl_ | Greetings |
| 23:08.39 | morpheus_pl_ | I have a question regarding nepomuk search in dolphin |
| 23:08.53 | morpheus_pl_ | how to search in comments ? |
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| 23:28.52 | longweekend | does anyone here know how to make login splash screens? |
| 23:29.16 | longweekend | ive been looking at some examples, but cant find a solid tutorial anywhere |
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| 23:33.30 | longweekend | anyone? |
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| 23:41.52 | resixian | where does kde mount samba shares? |
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| 23:44.03 | resixian | i can moutn and navigate my shares from dolphin, but i don't know where to navigate like a 'save as' dialog to the share |
| 23:44.10 | resixian | s/moutn/mount/ |
| 23:44.19 | thiago_ny | resixian: KDE doesn't mount samba shares |
| 23:44.39 | thiago_ny | did you mean in dolphin's Location panel? |
| 23:45.21 | resixian | i'm sayin in dolphin, type smb://<path to share>, then it prompts for user & password, then i have access to a samba share |
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| 23:45.40 | resixian | but from any other application idk how to navigate to the same share |
| 23:45.59 | thiago_ny | then it isn't mounted anywhere |
| 23:46.07 | thiago_ny | from your *KDE* application, type that URL |
| 23:46.38 | resixian | so wont work from say libreoffice or vim? |
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| 23:47.21 | thiago_ny | it won't |
| 23:47.38 | resixian | that sucks |
| 23:48.35 | resixian | well thanks, at least i won't keep looking for a solution to that |
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