| 00:00.09 | yecril71pl | Not a chance. |
| 00:00.39 | nbnds | AMD NeoX2 @1.5 Ghz 2GB, ati 2400 hd on board |
| 00:01.13 | yecril71pl | Is that 2core? |
| 00:01.25 | nbnds | double core, yes |
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| 00:01.56 | yecril71pl | : Intel Celeron EM64T 2,3 GHz 1GB |
| 00:02.12 | yecril71pl | Seens lighter than nbndsâs |
| 00:02.42 | nbnds | and it feels snappy for you? |
| 00:03.06 | yecril71pl | Sometimes it is somewhat sluggish, but it does not crash much. |
| 00:03.14 | yecril71pl | Just avoid known holes. |
| 00:03.22 | luke-jr | I just upgraded from an Athlon64 3200+ |
| 00:03.29 | luke-jr | it wasn't too slow, except when it ran out of RAM |
| 00:04.05 | yecril71pl | My other PC is a Fujitsu laptop with Windows XP SP3. |
| 00:04.18 | nbnds | there was a possibility to removee plasma from autostart, in kde 4.3 but now the option seems been removed |
| 00:04.23 | yecril71pl | Time from start to home page: about 15 min :-) |
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| 00:06.42 | yecril71pl | Since the basic GUI elements belong to Plasma, an operator who does not want Plasma probably does not want KDE either |
| 00:07.21 | yecril71pl | Using KDE is not compulsory :-) |
| 00:07.36 | Daskreech | yes it is |
| 00:07.51 | Daskreech | Thou shalt use KDE |
| 00:07.58 | nbnds | without plasma i could press alt+f2 and run the programs i just needed, without hassle with klicking and dragging mouse aroud, that was unbelievable, just awesome |
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| 00:08.48 | Daskreech | nbnds: yeah when 4.0-4.2 was wonky I'd just run krunner and X and then populate my applications as needed |
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| 00:09.57 | yecril71pl | That requires knowing many incantations from the book of spells :-( |
| 00:10.26 | nbnds | the plasma desktop seems to be only an eye candy, without particular efficency boost for the user? |
| 00:10.44 | yecril71pl | The desktop is never an efficiency boost really |
| 00:10.59 | nbnds | true words |
| 00:11.06 | yecril71pl | It is an environment supposed to be friendly to find your way around it |
| 00:11.27 | yecril71pl | The most efficient applications are MS-DOS ones :-) |
| 00:12.25 | yecril71pl | And modern widgets create as much distraction to the operator as they possibly can |
| 00:13.40 | nbnds | one thing i like about new kde, ist the windows stacking, so i can put all my applications i need together in a working set. without dockbar i can maximize the real estate of the monitor and the work becomes a pleasure |
| 00:15.17 | yecril71pl | clusters applications in desktops |
| 00:24.06 | yecril71pl | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=263932 |
| 00:26.44 | nbnds | but it should be possible to use i.e. the fluxbox as WM and KDE applications? |
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| 00:43.10 | ubuntu_ | Is there a keyboard shortcut for moving a window to another virtual desktop? |
| 00:45.44 | ubuntu_ | Kubuntu 10.10, KDE 4.5.1. |
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| 01:17.17 | thewanderer1 | does Amarok keep a history of listened tracks? |
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| 01:22.50 | Daskreech | thewanderer1: Yeah |
| 01:23.00 | thewanderer1 | where? |
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| 01:25.28 | France1159 | says hello to everyone |
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| 01:27.41 | thewanderer1 | Daskreech: how can I retrieve it? |
| 01:28.06 | Daskreech | should be in database |
| 01:28.11 | Daskreech | ask in #amarok |
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| 01:36.12 | thewanderer1 | thanks |
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| 02:34.04 | antivigilante | is there a way to have gnome icons in KDE? Ken's icons specifically |
| 02:35.03 | sreich | yes |
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| 02:43.18 | solidus-river | hey guys, i'm on gentoo amd64 and i'm getting horribly distorted poping noises when playing sounds through amarok can anyone point me to whats causing this |
| 02:43.26 | solidus-river | no other applications have the poping noise, just amarok |
| 02:43.36 | solidus-river | i've found it mentioned on several forums but no one seems to have any solution |
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| 02:45.23 | Lars_G | Say, in the kde4/xorg team which is the program responsible of turning the monitor off (not showing the screensaver) ? |
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| 02:46.46 | Lars_G | So i wonder what process i could investigate, maybe check with dbus or -HUP to see if I can temporarily fix it |
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| 03:48.22 | _mwoodj_ | For some reason kmix has both the master playback and master capture in the master channel (so the master shows two sliders.) When I set a button (such as one on my IR remote) to adjust the master volume it adjusts both these sliders. I would really like to have the capture slider dropped from kmix but I don't see any way to do it. Anyone have some insight? |
| 03:48.57 | _mwoodj_ | This is KDE 4.5.5 in Gentoo with ALSA sound and an Audigy4 using hardware mixing. |
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| 04:42.42 | Daskreech | Fragmaster870: #akonadi or #kontact |
| 04:42.57 | Fragmaster870 | thanks ill try akonadi |
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| 09:26.40 | pinotree | use the tools of your distro (the init system) to disable its startup |
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| 09:34.08 | abc321 | oh sorry i asked it in wrong channel |
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| 09:35.32 | p1mrx | I've got KDE 4.5.5, and the "Suspend to Ram" menu option does nothing. "sudo pm-suspend" works fine on the command line. |
| 09:35.42 | p1mrx | it used to work until a few months ago. |
| 09:35.59 | p1mrx | what components does the suspend to ram feature depend on? |
| 09:36.46 | pinotree | hal |
| 09:39.30 | emilsedgh_ | you can try solid-powermanagement suspend to_ram |
| 09:39.41 | emilsedgh_ | and see if it tells something interesting |
| 09:39.43 | emilsedgh_ | p1mrx: ^ |
| 09:40.19 | p1mrx | "solid-powermanagement suspend to_ram" works. |
| 09:40.26 | p1mrx | i.e. it suspended. |
| 09:40.36 | emilsedgh_ | oh heh sorry! |
| 09:41.24 | p1mrx | does it make any sense that that would work, but not the option in the K menu? |
| 09:42.01 | emilsedgh_ | well, i dont know. maybe there's a bug. but it sometimes happens to me as well |
| 09:42.13 | emilsedgh_ | but usually after wakeup, it works again |
| 09:42.48 | p1mrx | nope, "Suspend to RAM" still has no effect |
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| 09:51.22 | salvin | hi |
| 09:52.40 | salvin | is there a way to delete a file from an external device with dolphin without to move it to the trash? |
| 09:52.54 | cb400f | shift+del |
| 09:53.15 | cb400f | or enable the "delete" option in contextmenus |
| 09:55.34 | salvin | cb400f: thanks |
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| 10:43.43 | t\zz | hi all! i always have to launch plasma-desktop twice (launch and kill and relaunch) to get my plasmoids. every second time i only get the panels and bg and no extra plasmoids. what could be wrong? |
| 10:44.21 | goibhniu | Hi, is there a way to set environment variables just for kde? .. I've seen .kde/share/env mentioned in mailing lists from a long time ago |
| 10:44.45 | goibhniu | would like to set the GTK_PATH for oxygen-gtk |
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| 10:46.04 | goibhniu | is using kde 4.5 |
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| 10:47.31 | thiago_home | goibhniu: yes, put a script in ~/.kde/env |
| 10:47.34 | thiago_home | not ~/.kde/share/env |
| 10:47.41 | pinotree | put that script in ~/.kde/env that does the export |
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| 10:48.07 | goibhniu | awesome! thanks a lot! |
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| 11:20.14 | mous16 | Hi chan! |
| 11:22.43 | mous16 | Today small annoying secondary problem... If I open some tabs in konqueror and then forcly quit it ("killall konqueror"), on the next startup I'm asked if i want restore the session, but the result is that konqueror reopen the same number of tabs, but all on the last visited page (or the last opened tab, i don't know). I'm the only one with this problem or it's a known bug? I've yet googled... |
| 11:26.31 | mous16 | I think that also the problems with "reopen last tab" are related |
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| 11:48.12 | feindbild | hi ^^ |
| 11:48.22 | feindbild | are there any configuration files for powerdevil? |
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| 11:49.24 | Moobyfr_ | has kde any plan to get ride of akonadi ? |
| 11:49.46 | pinotree | Moobyfr_: nope |
| 11:49.55 | cb400f | of course.. but the "heavy lifting" is not done by powerdevil.. but by solid -> hal/upower |
| 11:50.00 | Moobyfr_ | biggest failure for kde next to kde4 ... |
| 11:50.38 | feindbild | cb400f: ok, I'M just wondering where I can specify commands to execute before it's doing suspend ^^ |
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| 11:51.58 | cb400f | Moobyfr_: first of all things change and improve.. what sucks today might be pumpkin pie tomorrow.. secondly you can make it not run pretty easily.. as long as you don't use apps that need it |
| 11:52.43 | feindbild | and I don't even have upwer installed ^^ |
| 11:52.52 | feindbild | *upower |
| 11:52.56 | pinotree | feindbild: which kde version are you using? |
| 11:53.00 | cb400f | feindbild: what kde version? .. in 4.6 at least you can enter scripts directly in the systemsettings module |
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| 11:53.34 | feindbild | pinotree: 4.5.5 |
| 11:53.48 | pinotree | kde up to 4.5 (included) uses hal for power management, while from 4.6 it uses upower |
| 11:53.55 | cb400f | oh, those scripts might only be for profile changes.. not suspend/wakeup |
| 11:54.03 | feindbild | ok, thanks :) |
| 11:54.04 | pinotree | (assuming linux or freebsd) |
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| 11:54.26 | Moobyfr_ | cb400f: I don't see any improvement in the usage of akonadi for the end user.... I use kde since the first kde1 beta,, and this "improvement" is useless fior the end user. |
| 11:54.31 | feindbild | yeah, linux ^^ |
| 11:54.55 | pinotree | yes, there is the possibility to run a script for a profile change (kde 4.4, already), i don't remember whether kde 4.6 provides script execution for events |
| 11:55.11 | cb400f | Moobyfr_: right, and there's no development on akonadi or porting of apps to use it... it's done, it will forever remain in the current state |
| 11:55.21 | feindbild | cause it takes longer to suspend/restore without the usual: echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches; sync :) |
| 11:56.13 | feindbild | I can't see any configuration what 'backend' to use either ^^ |
| 11:56.28 | pinotree | there is none |
| 11:56.32 | feindbild | guess I'll write my own acpi handler script ^^ |
| 11:58.39 | feindbild | bye ^^ |
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| 12:03.49 | hellyeah | hey |
| 12:04.00 | hellyeah | isnt there any channel for kile |
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| 12:08.15 | cb400f | if not, maybe there's a mailing list |
| 12:10.35 | hellyeah | i wonder how kile works in windows is it good, perfect, sufficiently enough |
| 12:12.24 | cb400f | maybe you can ask about that in #kde-windows |
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| 12:13.06 | hellyeah | hmm |
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| 12:13.45 | ct529 | Hi everbody! when a user creates a new activity, the wallpaper reverts to a default wallpaper. I want to set this default wallpaper so that all users, when they create a new kde activity have my wallpaper on it, not the present default |
| 12:14.14 | ct529 | anyone with a clue? I have been searching and googling everywhere, but to no avail |
| 12:14.54 | Twey | Obvious, hacky solution: swap out the file containing the default wallpaper |
| 12:15.56 | thiago_home | try #plasma |
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| 12:16.40 | ct529 | Twey: well, already thought about it, but does not seem right .... where is the configuration file? |
| 12:17.46 | ct529 | Twey: what if the user wants to change the default wallpaper? |
| 12:17.51 | ct529 | Twey: there must be a way .... |
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| 12:18.36 | thiago_home | ct529: check the source code |
| 12:18.45 | thiago_home | find out what setting it uses to find the default wallpaper |
| 12:18.49 | thiago_home | then set that setting |
| 12:19.05 | ct529 | thiago_home: what do you mean? the whole source code???? ouch! |
| 12:19.09 | thiago_home | yes |
| 12:19.12 | thiago_home | the whole plasma source code |
| 12:19.40 | thiago_home | you can also ask for help from one of the plasma devels, who is more likely to know where to search |
| 12:19.40 | ct529 | thiago_home: that is quite something .... |
| 12:20.02 | ct529 | thiago_home: I do not think I am up to the task |
| 12:20.23 | thiago_home | you're not up to the task of asking a developer? |
| 12:20.57 | ct529 | thiago_home: no, of modifying the code .... I do not know the programming language well enough |
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| 12:21.28 | thiago_home | I didn't say modify |
| 12:21.43 | thiago_home | I said "find the setting" and then "set the setting", as in set in the config file |
| 12:23.49 | ct529 | thiago_home: ok |
| 12:23.53 | ct529 | thiago_home: thanks |
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| 12:28.34 | Peace- | hi where are the default configuration file for the wallpaper? |
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| 12:28.44 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:30.14 | annma | hi Peace- what exactly do you want to do? |
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| 12:31.00 | Peace- | annma: set another wallpaper like default for each users |
| 12:31.12 | Peace- | annma: i will prefer edit the configuration file |
| 12:31.23 | Peace- | annma: or do you know another way ? |
| 12:31.30 | annma | each users or all users? |
| 12:31.34 | annma | and what kde version? |
| 12:31.36 | Peace- | all users |
| 12:31.55 | Peace- | 4 5.3 |
| 12:33.45 | annma | you can look in /usr/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/ and change the js file which is there in order to set it |
| 12:33.49 | annma | for example |
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| 12:34.06 | Peace- | ok i am looking right now |
| 12:34.08 | annma | the desktop is scripted in this purpose, to allow flexibility |
| 12:34.11 | Peace- | annma: ty for support |
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| 12:34.51 | Peace- | annma: o wowo i have not the folder xD |
| 12:35.30 | annma | so maybe it was only introduced in 4.6 |
| 12:36.25 | Peace- | mm |
| 12:36.37 | Kame2 | it is available in 4.5 but the default is hardcoded if nothing is in this folder. so just create it |
| 12:36.38 | Peace- | ct529: xD |
| 12:37.16 | Peace- | ct529: i will just replace the pictures.... |
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| 12:37.42 | Peace- | i mean the default theme xD |
| 12:37.50 | annma | you can do that |
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| 12:39.19 | Peace- | annma: guess it's the easier way :D |
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| 12:39.23 | Peace- | Kame2: ty :) |
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| 12:39.37 | ct529 | annma: what happens if I create a kdesktoprc with a default wallpaper there? |
| 12:39.49 | annma | not sure as there's no theme named "default" |
| 12:39.54 | Kame2 | Peace-: so i am not sure if 4.5 allows to change the wallpaper with desktop scripting... |
| 12:40.07 | annma | there's no kdesktoprc anymore ct529* |
| 12:40.17 | ct529 | annma: oh no .... |
| 12:40.18 | Peace- | Kame2: no problem :) |
| 12:40.34 | ct529 | annma: what happens if I create one |
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| 12:41.42 | annma | ct529: it does not exist anymore |
| 12:41.50 | annma | it's plasma-desktoprc |
| 12:42.27 | Peace- | mm |
| 12:42.41 | aditsu | hi, I managed to mess up my panel - I added some plasmoids and can't remove them, and anything I try to add now has no effect, how can I fix it? |
| 12:42.43 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.47 | Peace- | ct529: /home/peace/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktoprc |
| 12:43.32 | aditsu | (kde 4.4.5 on gentoo) |
| 12:44.18 | annma | Peace-: you can create a plasma-desktop-appletsrc file globally and set the wallpaper here |
| 12:44.53 | annma | aditsu: rm the user $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc file |
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| 12:45.08 | annma | aditsu: first logout from kde, rm the file then log back in |
| 12:45.21 | Peace- | annma: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 12:45.25 | Peace- | i have found that |
| 12:45.31 | Peace- | on my system |
| 12:45.34 | annma | yes |
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| 12:45.45 | annma | KUbuntu way |
| 12:45.46 | aditsu | annma: oh, I have to log out? |
| 12:45.55 | annma | so is there Athais as wallpaper in there? |
| 12:46.00 | annma | aditsu: yes |
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| 12:46.15 | annma | aditsu: or kquitapp plasma-desktop |
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| 12:46.32 | annma | Peace-: what's in the file? |
| 12:46.43 | Peace- | SwitchTabsOnHover=false |
| 12:46.49 | Peace- | askBeforeRemoval=true |
| 12:46.52 | annma | not relevant |
| 12:46.52 | Peace- | xD end |
| 12:47.24 | ct529 | annma: so if we set the default wallpaper there, then it uses it for all users and all activities? |
| 12:47.43 | annma | ct529: depends how you set it |
| 12:47.49 | annma | but yes |
| 12:47.52 | annma | [Containments][1][Wallpaper][image] |
| 12:47.55 | aditsu | annma: oh, I did kquitapp plasma-desktop and just restarted it, now the panel seems manageable |
| 12:48.01 | annma | wallpaper=/usr/local/trunk/share/wallpapers/Horos |
| 12:49.43 | Peace- | annma: something like this ? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopru1596 |
| 12:50.34 | Peace- | !wiki |
| 12:50.38 | Peace- | :( |
| 12:50.56 | annma | applets-globals? |
| 12:51.26 | Peace- | i mean the kate window |
| 12:51.58 | Peace- | ah |
| 12:51.59 | Peace- | ok |
| 12:52.01 | annma | pastebin the content of the file instead of posting a pic |
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| 12:52.03 | Peace- | sorry i didnt see |
| 12:52.08 | Peace- | that was the default |
| 12:52.15 | Peace- | lines i have added yours |
| 12:52.17 | Peace- | down |
| 12:52.33 | annma | well your stuff is KUbuntu so maybe they change KDE |
| 12:52.37 | annma | ask them |
| 12:52.44 | Peace- | mmm |
| 12:52.48 | annma | I run KDE vanilla from KDE svn repo |
| 12:52.49 | Peace- | could be |
| 12:52.53 | annma | not KUbuntu |
| 12:53.04 | Peace- | annma: debian ? suse? |
| 12:53.29 | annma | I run KDE vanilla from KDE svn repo |
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| 12:53.38 | Peace- | ok but the kernel ? annma |
| 12:53.38 | annma | KDE svn |
| 12:53.39 | annma | not distro |
| 12:53.43 | Peace- | LOL |
| 12:53.49 | annma | kernel has nothing to do with KDE |
| 12:53.51 | Peace- | ok i am too much lazy to do that |
| 12:53.57 | Peace- | :D |
| 12:54.01 | Peace- | i am not so smart |
| 12:54.04 | annma | I did nto say you should do it |
| 12:54.22 | annma | I said you should ask KUbuntu for specifics about setting default wallpaper |
| 12:54.23 | Peace- | ok ok i was only asking to know |
| 12:54.25 | Peace- | :D |
| 12:54.44 | annma | I am a kde developer so I need KDE sources |
| 12:55.07 | Peace- | of course |
| 12:55.22 | Peace- | annma: xD just to know i ahve sent an idea for dolphin,,,, |
| 12:55.32 | Peace- | annma: you know someone is working on i t? |
| 12:55.34 | Peace- | it |
| 12:55.48 | annma | send an idea how |
| 12:55.57 | annma | in a bug report? |
| 12:56.20 | Peace- | annma: http://forum.kde.org/brainstorm.php#idea92269_page1 |
| 12:56.37 | Peace- | annma: it should be only a little little stuff xD |
| 12:56.37 | annma | ah bah |
| 12:56.41 | Peace- | xD |
| 12:56.43 | annma | we devels do not read this |
| 12:56.48 | Peace- | :( |
| 12:56.58 | annma | besides there are tons of ideas around to be frank |
| 12:56.59 | Peace- | annma: should i write on bug? |
| 12:57.12 | annma | myself have 10 ideas per day |
| 12:57.17 | Peace- | annma: LOL |
| 12:57.43 | annma | if you can tell how the idea is really useful with a use case, then write a bug report as a wish |
| 12:58.04 | annma | very often users think something is useful for them |
| 12:58.15 | annma | is it also useful for the majority of users? |
| 12:58.40 | Peace- | annma: mm well i think this annma multimedia is very important for a desktkop |
| 12:58.57 | Peace- | annma: so .. gnome and mac users has this play hovering the files automatically |
| 12:59.04 | annma | I did not read your forum post |
| 12:59.09 | Peace- | annma: http://i0.simplest-image-hosting.net/168bf183b2abe8bc9188aacc163dd507/dolophinnnnnnnnnnnnn0.jpeg |
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| 12:59.16 | Peace- | annma: you can see the picutre? |
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| 12:59.19 | Peace- | picture |
| 12:59.40 | Peace- | could/can |
| 13:00.20 | annma | I see but I don't get it |
| 13:00.36 | Peace- | annma: on dolphin . you have to click to play the file |
| 13:00.43 | annma | you have an avi file in dolphin |
| 13:00.47 | annma | sure |
| 13:00.50 | Peace- | annma: on the the gnome and mac you have an option |
| 13:00.53 | Peace- | play automaticcaly |
| 13:00.59 | annma | bah |
| 13:01.02 | Peace- | xD |
| 13:01.08 | annma | so what does play automatically does? |
| 13:01.17 | annma | if you set the option |
| 13:01.28 | annma | (referring to mac ot gnome is not telling anything) |
| 13:01.42 | Peace- | you can find faster which multimedia file you are looking for |
| 13:01.47 | Peace- | if they have the same name |
| 13:01.54 | annma | I choose the option, then when I open my folder with 100 .avi in it, what does it do? |
| 13:02.03 | annma | explain properly |
| 13:02.24 | Peace- | ok if you hover the file the file manager plays the file |
| 13:02.29 | Peace- | into the info pannel |
| 13:02.40 | Peace- | annma: have you ever uploaded files like videos on youtube |
| 13:02.41 | annma | and how is it useful |
| 13:02.53 | annma | I like to see them big personally |
| 13:02.59 | Peace- | well suppose to have a lots of audio |
| 13:03.16 | Peace- | with similar names |
| 13:03.23 | Peace- | you can just hover on the files |
| 13:03.30 | Peace- | and understand which one |
| 13:03.33 | Peace- | for example |
| 13:03.38 | Peace- | on your video camera |
| 13:03.45 | Peace- | you have all this dsc10030.avi |
| 13:03.50 | Peace- | these |
| 13:04.05 | Peace- | but you can't remember what you have done in that video |
| 13:04.06 | Peace- | or the other |
| 13:04.09 | annma | well it might be a use case |
| 13:04.38 | Peace- | but the feauture there si already |
| 13:04.52 | Peace- | it's just to add a little option |
| 13:04.57 | annma | I understand |
| 13:05.06 | annma | you want the devel to add it, you mean |
| 13:05.18 | Peace- | i am not a dev :( |
| 13:05.21 | Peace- | i am a scripter |
| 13:05.28 | Peace- | for some stuff |
| 13:05.36 | annma | so open a bug report as a wish for dolphin and explain all that |
| 13:05.39 | Peace- | ok |
| 13:05.42 | Peace- | i will do it |
| 13:05.51 | annma | do not only write: I want this |
| 13:05.59 | Peace- | ok understood |
| 13:06.03 | annma | explain as you did here |
| 13:06.08 | Peace- | i have to explain well |
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| 13:06.13 | annma | yes :) |
| 13:06.16 | Peace- | ok ok :D |
| 13:06.27 | Peace- | annma: i am nowardev i have done some service menu |
| 13:06.32 | annma | take the example of your camera with short vodeos |
| 13:06.35 | Peace- | some automatize stuff for kdenlive |
| 13:06.40 | Peace- | but i am a noob :D |
| 13:06.54 | annma | cool Peace- and no you're not |
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| 13:07.07 | annma | we're all newbies at some point ;) |
| 13:07.20 | annma | I still am one to be honest |
| 13:07.23 | Peace- | annma: i am proud of my automatic kdenlive maker for videos xD |
| 13:07.28 | annma | :) |
| 13:07.37 | Peace- | all done in dolphin xD |
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| 13:08.21 | Peace- | ok time to go bye annma and thank you for all your support |
| 13:08.56 | annma | bye Peace- |
| 13:09.01 | annma | you're welcome |
| 13:09.47 | ct529 | Peace-: your desktop look amazing .... where did you get that panel???? |
| 13:09.54 | h4xordood | annma: :) Bonjour |
| 13:10.14 | Peace- | ct529: kpackagekit -> daisy |
| 13:10.43 | ct529 | Peace-: thanks! |
| 13:10.47 | Peace- | ct529: option daisy--> circular--> line something like that |
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| 13:13.24 | aditsu | is there something to make the kde taskbar look more like the one in windows 7? mainly removing the captions, I guess |
| 13:13.53 | aditsu | I tried fancytasks and it is crap; and smooth-tasks doesn't compile |
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| 13:17.51 | aditsu | sadly, bug 159480 is wontfix |
| 13:19.14 | annma | hi h4xordood :) |
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| 13:19.36 | cptG | hey there! is anyone using kopete for making video calls? if so: which protocol? google talk? |
| 13:19.38 | annma | aditsu: removing the tooltips is an option in the task manager settings |
| 13:19.52 | annma | aditsu: referring to windows 7 doe snot explain what you want |
| 13:21.05 | aditsu | annma: ok, I would like the items in the taskbar to show only icons |
| 13:21.15 | aditsu | it's not about the tooltips, I want tooltips |
| 13:21.48 | aditsu | but I'd like big icons instead of icons with text |
| 13:22.18 | annma | I don't know if that's possible |
| 13:22.46 | aditsu | apparently not with the standard plasmoid |
| 13:23.22 | aditsu | ("task manager") |
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| 13:23.37 | annma | have a look at kde-look.org to see if there's a replacement |
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| 13:24.08 | annma | the icons cannot be bigger in the sense that they are square |
| 13:24.24 | annma | so they'll be only as big as the panel height |
| 13:24.46 | annma | (I never saw Win 7) |
| 13:24.50 | aditsu | well, yes, but removing the text can make them fit in 1 row instead of 2 for example |
| 13:26.09 | annma | aditsu: you can force 1 row |
| 13:26.14 | aditsu | annma: here is an example screenshot if you're curious: http://techgenie.com/wp-content/uploads/Windows-7-Taskbar.png |
| 13:26.20 | annma | then the text disappears |
| 13:26.59 | annma | the text disappears when it does nto fit anymore |
| 13:27.19 | aditsu | hm.. yes I can make them use one row, but the icons stay small |
| 13:27.54 | annma | make the panel a bit bigger |
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| 13:28.20 | aditsu | ironically, that makes the icons even smaller :) |
| 13:28.25 | annma | you would want the icons to fit better the buttons |
| 13:28.29 | annma | oh? |
| 13:28.52 | annma | I agree that they could fit better though |
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| 13:29.18 | annma | at some height they seem to reach perfection |
| 13:29.44 | aditsu | when I increase the panel height, the clock and one other thing become bigger, leaving less space for the taskbar |
| 13:29.58 | annma | what kde version? |
| 13:30.14 | aditsu | 4.4.5 |
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| 13:31.19 | aditsu | there are some other issues about icon scaling, but I believe they were fixed in a later version |
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| 13:33.35 | annma | it's not perfect yet in latest version |
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| 13:39.01 | aditsu | the main things I can find on kde-look.org are those 2 I already mentioned (smooth tasks and fancy tasks) |
| 13:39.19 | aditsu | maybe if I could get smooth tasks to work... |
| 13:39.19 | annma | aditsu: you can also add a spacer near your taskbar |
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| 14:01.54 | aditsu | annma: oooh, I managed to find and install "stasks" (which "smooth tasks" is based on), it seems to do what I want :) |
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| 14:02.48 | aditsu | and doesn't freeze, crash or mess up my panel/desktop (so far) :) |
| 14:04.45 | aditsu | actually, it's pretty awesome |
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| 14:36.43 | Lint01 | too low people |
| 14:36.52 | Lint01 | where real channel? |
| 14:36.57 | pinotree | low? |
| 14:37.21 | pinotree | this is the kde user support channel |
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| 14:37.52 | Lint01 | well I have awful issue with kdm.log trashing my disk |
| 14:38.25 | Lint01 | once day it grew to gigabytes and my system came to the halt |
| 14:38.44 | Lint01 | it grows by megabytes each dat |
| 14:38.49 | Lint01 | y |
| 14:39.31 | Lint01 | I just logged in and it's 19 NB |
| 14:40.37 | Lint01 | I look inside and see "KConfigIni" trying to parse ALL MY KERNELS AS INI FILES |
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| 14:41.33 | Lint01 | i don;t know kdm version because he doesn't understand --version :( |
| 14:41.38 | Lint01 | any ideas? |
| 14:42.45 | Lint01 | 4.4.5-4 |
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| 14:45.48 | Lint01 | 366 humans is too low, any channel with greater audience? |
| 14:47.33 | aditsu | Lint01: maybe #ubuntu |
| 14:48.16 | Lint01 | I don't use ubuntu |
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| 14:49.09 | Lint01 | and ubuntu kicks people with kde because they support gnome only :( |
| 14:49.20 | aditsu | it probably has more people, that's what you asked for |
| 14:52.26 | aditsu | Lint01: anyway, why do you say KConfigIni is trying to parse your KERNELS? |
| 14:52.52 | Lint01 | "KConfigIni: In file /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686-bigmem, line 12344: " "Invalid escape sequence "\Ã"." |
| 14:53.09 | Lint01 | of that crap 20 MB |
| 14:53.12 | aditsu | :O |
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| 14:54.45 | aditsu | something is really messed up, maybe it has /boot set as a config folder somewhere? anyway, I don't know enough to help you debug the problem |
| 14:55.35 | aditsu | have you tried reinstalling kdm/kde? |
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| 14:56.48 | Lint01 | hm I can try |
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| 15:13.17 | james147 | Do the entries for window rules have a higher priority if they are higher or lower in the list? |
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| 15:14.31 | Oleg_ | yo, kopete is buggy, in one chat window, they have the size set by a user, but another window ignores the user's setting and uses a small font size |
| 15:14.51 | Oleg_ | though I am not sure if I am running kdenetwork 4.5.4 or kdenetwork 4.5.5 |
| 15:15.19 | Oleg_ | I know for sure that I am running kdebase-workspace4-4.5.5 and kdebase4-4.5.5 |
| 15:15.53 | ompaul | Oleg_: just curious how / why would you mix them? |
| 15:16.09 | Oleg_ | ompaul, because I compile them from freebsd ports |
| 15:17.37 | Oleg_ | by the way, you claim that freebsd is for servers, but linux is for desktop, but if it's true, then how come I am able to have all the desktop effects in kde enabled with my nvidia gt 220 card, but never was able to enable all of those effects on linux? |
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| 15:18.32 | Oleg_ | it's fucking bullshit that freebsd is for servers. both freebsd and linux are unix clones |
| 15:19.39 | Oleg_ | so, there is nothing that makes freebsd more server-like and there is nothing that makes linux more desktop-like |
| 15:20.32 | ompaul | Oleg_: ehh I ran FreeBSD as a desktop from late 1993 to 2000 so I think I had that idea a long time ago :) I didn't care about servers back then |
| 15:20.49 | pistolpete | except for what one likes using??? |
| 15:22.44 | ompaul | Oleg_: I would have thought ports would have pulled in the 4.5.5 version rather than leaving the old stuff there, no idea on the "bug" though |
| 15:23.22 | Oleg_ | no, I didn't re-compile the whole kde4 port, I only recompiled specific ports like kdebase-workspace4-4.5.5 and etc |
| 15:25.01 | ompaul | Oleg_: then ime you are asking for trouble, people who build large systems don't generally check if you can mix them in a I feel like it is Saturday sense ;- |
| 15:25.04 | ompaul | :-) |
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| 17:41.50 | eshat | How can I sync my Kmail configuration to another computer ? |
| 17:42.13 | eshat | It seems to be more than just one folder and the files are very distributed |
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| 17:54.23 | ooser | hi |
| 17:54.32 | ooser | how can i get rid of the cashew? |
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| 17:56.08 | cb400f | you can't... you can move it behind your panel though ;-) |
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| 17:56.20 | cb400f | but that only makes sense if your panel is non-transparent |
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| 17:57.20 | ooser | cb400f: well it is transparent |
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| 17:57.41 | ooser | but if it weren'T, how can I move the cashew? |
| 17:57.50 | cb400f | drag wif mouse |
| 17:57.54 | ooser | ah |
| 17:57.59 | ooser | hehe, thx |
| 17:58.16 | ooser | haha, nice |
| 17:58.36 | ooser | the litter bin icon in panel almost entirely hides it, thx |
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| 17:59.47 | cb400f | :-) |
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| 18:03.01 | james147 | ^^ i think there is a plasmoid on kde-look.org that can hide it |
| 18:03.06 | ooser | i wonder why it is there in the first place |
| 18:03.39 | ooser | wouldn't it be fully sufficient to only show it when selected by right-clicking the desktop? |
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| 18:04.06 | james147 | ooser: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Stealth+Cashew?content=108460 |
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| 18:17.04 | ooser | james147: thank you |
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| 18:18.11 | ooser | by the way, now that it is possible to have different wallpapers for different virtual desktops, would be nice to be able to have different sets of widgets and penels too |
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| 18:25.57 | Kame2 | ooser: there is a feature to have different wallpapers but the same widgets? how do you archive this? i only know the way to have different views which means different wallpapers AND widgets |
| 18:27.35 | ooser | Kame2: well, my dekstop is pretty muchg empty, so I just assumed it would be same widgets |
| 18:27.51 | ooser | so it'S good to know you can have different widgets too. |
| 18:27.58 | ooser | does the same apply for the panels? |
| 18:28.15 | Kame2 | no |
| 18:28.22 | Kame2 | that is not possible :( |
| 18:28.42 | ooser | ok, so it'S a feature request. ;) |
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| 18:30.13 | ooser | james147: stealth cashew works great |
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| 19:09.34 | diegoviola | omg, gnome-shell is looking good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVz9NTjuNE |
| 19:10.16 | diegoviola | uses kde, not gnome |
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| 19:11.55 | cb400f | looks gnomish to me... but noone will ever use it anyway... since unity is just soooo cool, Mark says so! ;-) |
| 19:13.08 | diegoviola | yep |
| 19:13.13 | Inso`leet | Mmh |
| 19:13.18 | Inso`leet | Gnome shell looks good |
| 19:13.22 | diegoviola | are they going to run unity on top of wayland? |
| 19:13.27 | Inso`leet | But that's because they start to use compositing |
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| 19:13.40 | Inso`leet | And compositing is always crappy on my non-intel cards |
| 19:13.41 | Inso`leet | so |
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| 19:14.31 | diegoviola | kde/qt has something like clutter? |
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| 19:14.57 | svuorela | diegoviola: what's clutter doing ? |
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| 19:17.17 | diegoviola | wasn't clutter some kind of UI library that uses SVG and OpenGL for making slick apps? |
| 19:17.30 | diegoviola | i guess Qt can do that no? |
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| 19:19.10 | tlvb | do anybody else have the problem that the contents of popup windows (eg tooltips and some popup menus) in are corrupt? |
| 19:20.30 | diegoviola | hm, I can make windows with JSON in Clutter, that's neat |
| 19:20.43 | diegoviola | does Qt have something similar? |
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| 19:25.05 | diegoviola | i would love if there is a way I can define how I want my windows to look in XML or JSON or whatever, then export that and use my favorite programming language to write the functionality of the app |
| 19:25.11 | diegoviola | similar to a model-view-controller pattern |
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| 19:32.00 | galo | diegoviola: you can do it in Qt, you have .ui files, which then you can use in your code |
| 19:32.34 | diegoviola | galo: cool, thanks! |
| 19:34.13 | ichbinder | hello. Hm, since recently, using my mouse wheel within Konsole does not scroll back the screen. Instead it scrolls back and forth in the bash history... where can I change that functionality cause it is very annoying. I can not see content that is "longer" than a screen... :( |
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| 19:44.15 | Psotnick | hello |
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| 20:21.01 | ichbinder | hm, my problem is solved... seems like it was just a temporary error... |
| 20:21.25 | ichbinder | another question: is there a nice GUI tool to create DVDs including subs and a simple self-made menu? |
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| 20:23.41 | james147 | ichbinder: not sure if it can but try kdenlive (a video editor) |
| 20:24.13 | emilsedgh_ | ichbinder: search on kde-apps.org there are a few iirc, the name was something like qdvdauthor or something like that |
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| 20:26.45 | Guest384 | Hello people. whether in kde 4.5.5 to put an animation or video on your desktop (like windows dreamscene)? |
| 20:28.54 | ichbinder | james147, emilsedgh_: thanks! I found qdvdauthor already but it seems to be quite outdated and also not in my repositories... but maybe i'll give it a try. I'll checkout kdenlive first, I guess. THanks guys! Further recommendations are very welcome! :) |
| 20:31.51 | Droste | hi, is there a way to force kwin to enable compositing? (I tried already DisableChecks=true and OpenGLIsUnsafe=false but it still doesn't enable it.) And is there a log or something like that for the reason not enabling compisiting? (kde 4.6rc2, opensuse 11.3) |
| 20:32.20 | junkDawgie | ichbinder: also you can look at 2ManDVD on kde-apps.org |
| 20:33.11 | ichbinder | junkDawgie: ok, I'll do so. thanks! |
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| 20:35.57 | junkDawgie | Droste: i vaguely recall some comments like yours dealing with intel chips |
| 20:36.11 | junkDawgie | is that your situation also? |
| 20:36.20 | Droste | it's an ati/amd chip |
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| 20:38.24 | junkDawgie | usually ati can be forced with the "Disable functionality checks" in the Advanced tab of the Desktop module... but it does what you have described. |
| 20:38.45 | ichbinder | james147: seems like kdenlive is great and can create DVDs. But not from a mkv file, only mpeg |
| 20:39.01 | james147 | hmm |
| 20:39.14 | junkDawgie | Droste: newer card 5000X series? |
| 20:39.20 | Droste | yes |
| 20:40.02 | Droste | It used to work, but stopped working with 4.6rc2 |
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| 20:41.40 | junkDawgie | sorry, i haven't a clue... you are the first i've seen in this venue to mention it. |
| 20:42.19 | Droste | hm ok, too bad. but thanks |
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| 20:42.44 | junkDawgie | might check bug reports... and the ati/amd forums |
| 20:46.38 | Droste | junkDawgie: Are you a kwin programmer? do you know where to look for the opengl checks in the source code? |
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| 20:48.04 | junkDawgie | no just a user like you, i think you have the right idea... it's obviously changed the functions it checks for and what is interpreted as the correct responses |
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| 20:54.06 | Droste | Is Martin GräÃlin here sometimes? He's the one who does the opengl compositing for kwin, right? |
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| 20:59.12 | silverrocker | hi I try to use kmenu->leave->turn off computer, but nothing happens, it used to show the logout dialogue but now nothing happens. I'm using the latest version. any ideas? |
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| 21:23.12 | Ashraf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CFbD84BDoE |
| 21:23.25 | pinotree | sigh |
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| 21:53.15 | h4xordood | how can i add ui file to kpart ? |
| 21:53.29 | h4xordood | i want to set that ui in kpart |
| 21:53.30 | h4xordood | :/ |
| 21:53.39 | h4xordood | setWidget () ? |
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| 22:42.06 | bajk-tragbar | anybody going to the kde 4.6 release party iN Karlsruhe? It is in "Vogelbräu" but google maps states two locations for that and both coud be possible |
| 22:42.13 | bajk-tragbar | but dunno which one is the correct one |
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