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| 00:39.30 | cordell | Isnt kde 4.5.5 out? |
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| 01:32.06 | Sho_ | cordell: indeed! |
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| 01:32.20 | *** topic/#kde by Sho_ -> KDE SC 4.5.5 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 03:49.07 | eerf | hi |
| 03:50.24 | eerf | I want to erase the saved passwords on konqueror but kdesu -s does not work. |
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| 03:50.28 | eerf | what shoudl I do? |
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| 03:55.05 | caf4926 | eerf: whats up? |
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| 03:57.04 | eerf | caf4926: hey |
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| 03:57.24 | caf4926 | eerf: whats the problem |
| 03:57.33 | eerf | I want to erase the saved passwords on konqueror but kdesu -s does not work. |
| 03:57.54 | eerf | I cannot delete the saved password on konqueror |
| 03:59.15 | caf4926 | eerf: you mean in the webbrowser part? |
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| 04:00.32 | eerf | yes |
| 04:00.36 | eerf | actually ftp |
| 04:00.41 | caf4926 | eerf: hang on |
| 04:01.01 | eerf | k |
| 04:05.53 | caf4926 | eerf: where have you been looking already? |
| 04:06.35 | eerf | cleared the cache and tried this kdesu -s |
| 04:06.53 | eerf | from this link |
| 04:06.54 | eerf | http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#HowdoItellKonquerortoforgetallthecachedloginsandpasswords |
| 04:07.13 | caf4926 | eerf: view hidden files in your /home/user |
| 04:07.42 | eerf | ok and? |
| 04:07.56 | caf4926 | eerf: are you sure it's not the ssh control you are after |
| 04:08.19 | eerf | ummm |
| 04:08.37 | eerf | ssh |
| 04:08.40 | eerf | yes |
| 04:08.47 | caf4926 | eerf: is it the password at login over ftp or sftp |
| 04:09.04 | eerf | password to sftp I think |
| 04:09.28 | caf4926 | eerf: in folder .ssh delete known hosts file |
| 04:10.15 | eerf | caf4926: oh konqueror is just a front-end? |
| 04:10.36 | caf4926 | eerf: K can be just about anything, yes |
| 04:10.37 | eerf | I do not have .ssh |
| 04:11.01 | caf4926 | eerf: in the folder delete known hosts |
| 04:11.17 | eerf | I do not have .ssh directory |
| 04:11.17 | caf4926 | eerf: sorry |
| 04:11.27 | eerf | is ok |
| 04:11.33 | caf4926 | eerf: are you sure |
| 04:11.38 | eerf | yup |
| 04:12.11 | caf4926 | eerf: what OS |
| 04:12.14 | eerf | ftp:// protocol to log into sftp I think |
| 04:12.17 | eerf | fedora 14 |
| 04:12.49 | caf4926 | eerf: it has .kde rather than .kde4 doesn't it |
| 04:13.03 | eerf | yup |
| 04:13.46 | caf4926 | eerf: in .kde/share/apps/konqueror |
| 04:14.17 | caf4926 | eerf: have you looked for any sign of what you need |
| 04:14.46 | eerf | what should I look for? |
| 04:14.52 | eerf | delete everything? |
| 04:15.15 | caf4926 | eerf: how much do you need other settings in Konq |
| 04:15.42 | eerf | I do not understand |
| 04:15.50 | eerf | this is my first time using konqueror |
| 04:16.22 | caf4926 | eerf: OK so delete the folder konqueror in .kde/share/apps |
| 04:16.56 | eerf | k |
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| 04:17.24 | caf4926 | eerf: then this file .kde/share/config/konquerorrc |
| 04:17.43 | caf4926 | eerf: using dolphin to do it |
| 04:17.53 | eerf | k |
| 04:19.27 | caf4926 | eerf: now try K |
| 04:19.51 | eerf | omg |
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| 04:20.00 | eerf | it still remembers the password |
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| 04:20.45 | caf4926 | eerf: what password |
| 04:20.48 | eerf | I do not understand why they do not have erase password option in the preference like firefox and chrome |
| 04:20.58 | eerf | password to ftp site |
| 04:21.04 | caf4926 | eerf: for a ftp login? |
| 04:21.08 | eerf | yep |
| 04:21.36 | caf4926 | eerf: are you sure it's not kwallet that is in play |
| 04:21.51 | eerf | I do not think so |
| 04:22.05 | eerf | maybe I should check? |
| 04:22.14 | eerf | How do I check if the wallet has my password then? |
| 04:22.25 | caf4926 | eerf: in the tray, check in hidden icons to see if wallet is there |
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| 04:22.48 | eerf | mope |
| 04:22.53 | eerf | n |
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| 04:23.40 | caf4926 | eerf: go back to hidden folders, is there one .ftp or .sftp |
| 04:24.06 | eerf | no .ftp no .sftp |
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| 04:26.29 | caf4926 | eerf: please paste the result of this: ls -a |
| 04:26.38 | eerf | k |
| 04:27.05 | caf4926 | http://paste.opensuse.org/ |
| 04:27.46 | eerf | http://codepad.org/bAe26VbJ |
| 04:32.02 | eerf | I want to ask konqueror developers why they have not implemented such a important feature |
| 04:32.55 | caf4926 | eerf: do you see anything here: .kde/share/apps/kssl |
| 04:33.12 | caf4926 | eerf: I don't think Konq is remembering it |
| 04:33.37 | eerf | .kde/share/apps/kssl does not exist |
| 04:35.10 | caf4926 | eerf: if login to gnome, rename .kde to .kde-old - then login to kde, there will be a totally new kde, do you know what I mean? |
| 04:35.24 | eerf | yes |
| 04:35.29 | caf4926 | eerf: you can test it and see and always revert back |
| 04:35.37 | eerf | hmmm |
| 04:35.49 | eerf | what if it is not kde then what else can it be? |
| 04:36.24 | eerf | let me test it first |
| 04:36.25 | eerf | brb |
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| 04:42.03 | eerf | caf4926: password is erased |
| 04:42.13 | caf4926 | eerf: you see we just deleted your konq configs and it still remembered, thats why I mentioned kwallet |
| 04:42.54 | caf4926 | eerf: so you could go back to your old .kde and errase the kwallet config, and so on |
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| 04:43.27 | eerf | K |
| 04:43.28 | caf4926 | eerf: a new .kde is kind of drastic really |
| 04:44.03 | caf4926 | eerf: so go to gnome, delete .kde and rename .kde-old to .kde |
| 04:44.25 | caf4926 | eerf: do you get me |
| 04:44.40 | eerf | yep |
| 04:44.48 | eerf | brb |
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| 04:45.49 | nanjinger | hi all |
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| 04:46.28 | eerf | done |
| 04:46.35 | eerf | but I dont think it was kwallet |
| 04:46.51 | nanjinger | i want to install kde bit by bit, where can i find a tutorial? |
| 04:47.00 | eerf | because there was no kwallet directory but its erased now |
| 04:47.16 | eerf | caf4926: Thanks anyway gotta go now library is closing |
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| 04:54.09 | adsfsa | is kde 4.6 coming out wednesday |
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| 04:55.43 | adsfsa | .... |
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| 04:56.28 | Daskreech | adsfsa: Sure |
| 04:57.10 | adsfsa | kde is ok but lxde is more advanced |
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| 04:57.34 | caf4926 | adsfsa: LOL |
| 04:57.49 | adsfsa | ? |
| 04:58.10 | caf4926 | adsfsa: statements like that are trolling for trouble |
| 04:58.24 | adsfsa | do i have to say kde is best to be in here? |
| 04:58.29 | bbecker | nanjinger: it depends on which distro/OS you are installing on |
| 04:58.43 | caf4926 | adsfsa: No |
| 04:59.04 | Daskreech | adsfsa: no but lxde is named that way for a reason |
| 04:59.19 | caf4926 | adsfsa: qualify 'more advanced' |
| 04:59.41 | adsfsa | like the technology itself |
| 04:59.59 | adsfsa | its simpler easier but more advanced to develop for |
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| 05:00.59 | caf4926 | adsfsa: all very subjective |
| 05:01.59 | Daskreech | adsfsa: You could argue that but perhaps in a offtopic channel? |
| 05:02.09 | adsfsa | ok i wont argue ill talk abou kde |
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| 05:03.06 | Daskreech | adsfsa: Not dissuading you just saying topics like that tend to get verbose and we are here to help people who need support |
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| 05:03.24 | adsfsa | ok got it |
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| 05:07.56 | Daskreech | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule |
| 05:08.05 | Daskreech | adsfsa: for your question |
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| 05:13.05 | JanKusanagi | Does anyone know if there is a way to change the way the blinking text cursor looks in KDE apps? |
| 05:13.29 | JanKusanagi | Like in Konsole which has several modes, like i-beam, block, blinking or static, etc. |
| 05:14.12 | JanKusanagi | but to change it globally, so it affects any text field anywhere |
| 05:14.39 | JanKusanagi | I've seen theres an option for the blinking interval in qtconfig, but nothing related to shape... |
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| 05:24.29 | Daskreech | JanKusanagi: Where else is that used? |
| 05:26.12 | JanKusanagi | what do you mean, "where else"? |
| 05:26.20 | JanKusanagi | the konsole options, just in konsole |
| 05:27.01 | JanKusanagi | and I'd like to be able to configure how the text cursor looks in any text input field anywhere in KDE, if possible |
| 05:27.19 | JanKusanagi | but I didn't find anything related in system settings |
| 05:27.39 | JanKusanagi | the only thing I found whas the option about the blinking "speed" in qtconfig |
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| 05:54.52 | Kano | hi svuorela, i installed the update-notifier-kde, but i still get no status updates |
| 05:56.38 | Kano | it seems debian does not install the needed update-manager-core by default |
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| 06:06.00 | caf4926 | Kano: isn't it easier just ot use apt-get in the terminal |
| 06:06.19 | Kano | thats something differnt |
| 06:06.25 | Kano | it only shows that there are update available |
| 06:06.29 | Kano | it does not install em |
| 06:06.59 | Kano | but i really would like to know what the replacement for kpackage now |
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| 06:07.30 | caf4926 | Kano: is it pure debian you have |
| 06:07.40 | Kano | squeeze yes |
| 06:08.07 | caf4926 | Kano: I have a Mint-Debian install but not kde |
| 06:08.53 | caf4926 | Kano: but I use : apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 06:09.17 | Kano | the problem is not the dist-upgrade |
| 06:09.31 | Kano | the problem is that you could install deb packages with click on it |
| 06:10.07 | caf4926 | Kano: right I se |
| 06:10.10 | caf4926 | see |
| 06:10.17 | Kano | some tools have got only hardcoded sudo support like gdebi-kde |
| 06:10.20 | Kano | thats stupid |
| 06:11.21 | caf4926 | Kano: have you tried the debian # |
| 06:11.57 | caf4926 | Kano: I use kde but only in openSUSE |
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| 08:06.49 | Guest60130 | kde is dying project |
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| 08:07.06 | Guest60130 | discuss |
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| 08:11.29 | pinotree | lol, good one |
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| 08:13.40 | Daskreech | Sho_: Who is Chris? |
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| 08:16.39 | Sho_ | Daskreech: the troll from a few mins ago |
| 08:17.12 | Daskreech | Sho_: Really? |
| 08:17.30 | Sho_ | Daskreech: I'm not sure what you expect me to answer now |
| 08:17.41 | Daskreech | cpe-72-185-192-222.tampabay.res.rr.com |
| 08:17.57 | Daskreech | 128.12.240.89 |
| 08:17.58 | pinotree | search for Guest60130 |
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| 08:19.18 | Daskreech | one was from Calif the otehr was from Tampa bay |
| 08:19.27 | Daskreech | Opposite sides of a sizeable country |
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| 08:19.45 | Sho_ | oh, indeed, my eyes slipped by a line |
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| 08:20.13 | Sho_ | good catch :) |
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| 08:20.34 | Daskreech | Me thinks you owe Chris an apology :) |
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| 09:17.59 | CuBeW0rK | hi all! has anybody tried syncing and saving nepomuk indexes in 4.6 RC2? tomorrow 4.6 will be out, and in case it works, I'll be able to install it in production environment (I badly need this feature) |
| 09:18.15 | CuBeW0rK | or shall I not keep my hopes up high? |
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| 09:37.04 | annma | CuBeW0rK: you mean Backup? |
| 09:38.16 | CuBeW0rK | annma, backup works in 4.5.2 too |
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| 09:38.27 | annma | so what feature? |
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| 09:38.42 | CuBeW0rK | I've read there'll be an option to sync tags and ratings between different computers |
| 09:39.04 | CuBeW0rK | so if I tag a file on my desktop, I can somehow sync that tag on my laptop too |
| 09:39.07 | annma | where did you read that |
| 09:39.16 | CuBeW0rK | let me search |
| 09:39.18 | annma | so that's backup |
| 09:39.28 | annma | backup and restore on laptop |
| 09:39.29 | ct529 | ciao annma! Sorry for yesterday evening, the battery just gave up half the way through the discussion about compilation |
| 09:40.21 | annma | hey ct529 |
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| 09:41.18 | CuBeW0rK | annma, http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Feature_Plan |
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| 09:41.31 | CuBeW0rK | DONE Nepomuk Backup & Sync Provide Backup and Sync capabilities to Nepomuk Vishesh Handa <handa.vish@gmail.com> |
| 09:41.40 | annma | backup as I said |
| 09:41.47 | annma | I tested that |
| 09:42.04 | rindolf | Hi all. Adding a new appointment in KOrganizer in KDE-4.5.95 on Mandriva Cooker causes plasma to crash and the panel to disappear (temporarily, but nonetheless.). |
| 09:42.05 | annma | and I suggested a few fixes |
| 09:42.12 | rindolf | Is it a known problem? |
| 09:42.33 | annma | rindolf: pastebin crash backtrace when speaking of crash |
| 09:42.57 | annma | CuBeW0rK: it should work |
| 09:43.57 | CuBeW0rK | annma, and do I need to place the same files in the exact same directory order, or does the indexing service find it after some hash information: |
| 09:43.58 | CuBeW0rK | ? |
| 09:44.17 | annma | the feature is in SystemSettings |
| 09:44.39 | annma | you can restore a backup from a file anywhere |
| 09:45.00 | annma | you save on a USB key and you restore from it for example |
| 09:45.12 | CuBeW0rK | so all in all: if I tag, rate, add comment on some files on my desktop at work, will I somehow be able to transfer the database to my laptop, so I can continue work at home too, without loosing any of the tag/rate/comments information? |
| 09:45.24 | annma | you also have automatic backup but that's for the same machine obviously |
| 09:45.36 | annma | exactly |
| 09:45.40 | annma | you will* |
| 09:45.42 | CuBeW0rK | \o/ |
| 09:45.55 | CuBeW0rK | excellent (said in Mr.Bruns's voice) |
| 09:46.02 | annma | tag creation, ratings, ... |
| 09:46.11 | annma | everything that isnot generated can be saved |
| 09:46.22 | annma | and restored |
| 09:46.28 | CuBeW0rK | simply the best feature imho since kde4 is reality |
| 09:46.35 | annma | :) |
| 09:47.10 | annma | yes, that's why I gave it a test and reported bugs to the devel |
| 09:47.15 | annma | and he fixed it |
| 09:47.36 | CuBeW0rK | too bad debian is not up to date, so I'll have to install kde4 4.6 from sources tomorrow |
| 09:48.13 | CuBeW0rK | there's an unofficial repo, but that won't update so fast I think |
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| 09:55.23 | CuBeW0rK | annma, if I tomorrow install kde4 4.6 from sources, is there a way to keep my current database? |
| 09:55.37 | CuBeW0rK | I suspect I have to purge the current packages |
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| 09:56.02 | rindolf | CuBeW0rK: you can install KDE-4.6 from sources onto a different prefix. |
| 09:56.08 | rindolf | CuBeW0rK: like /opt/kde-4.6 |
| 09:56.18 | annma | not the question rindolf |
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| 09:56.38 | annma | CuBeW0rK: do you use virtuoso right now? |
| 09:56.44 | CuBeW0rK | yes |
| 09:57.02 | CuBeW0rK | akion 2712 0.2 4.9 86256 76656 ? SNl 09:59 0:09 /usr/bin/virtuoso-t +foreground +configfile /tmp/virtuoso_ZT2567.ini +wait |
| 09:57.12 | annma | so you'll be OK as long as you keep your $KDEHOME |
| 09:57.53 | CuBeW0rK | ok. in any case, I just backup my ~/.kde |
| 09:57.59 | annma | yes |
| 09:58.19 | CuBeW0rK | I suppose I can delete the .kde/cache-* ? |
| 09:58.42 | CuBeW0rK | oh, that is a symlink |
| 10:00.16 | CuBeW0rK | nice. k, thx for your suport and time annma |
| 10:00.37 | CuBeW0rK | bye all! |
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| 10:10.44 | docx_cz_most_ | Hello, I'm testing 4.6 RC2 (4.5.95). And I would ask you, is there any option to disable notifications of "new samba share discovered" in "devices applet"? It popups something every 15 seconds and its very annoying :) I dont think that it is bug, it is in other hand useful, but in my (dormitory) network is very much mess :D |
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| 10:12.07 | pinotree | docx_cz_most_: the entire upnp functionality has been disabled for kde 4.6.x |
| 10:13.22 | docx_cz_most_ | pinotree: It does not seem like that :) I have entire virtual folder "network" in dolphin, with samba, zeroconf (avahi) services etc. |
| 10:13.52 | pinotree | it was disabled *after* the release you are using has been tagged. |
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| 10:15.49 | docx_cz_most_ | pinotree: Hm :) It's interesting, could I ask you why KDE disabled it? :) |
| 10:16.09 | pinotree | one of the reasons was the very same questions you had |
| 10:17.26 | docx_cz_most_ | ok, what can I do with that :) Thanks for info.. |
| 10:17.30 | annma | rindolf: where's the backtrace? |
| 10:21.11 | rindolf | annma: I don't appear to have one in xsession-errors. |
| 10:21.39 | annma | a crash |
| 10:21.51 | annma | you get a KDE crash dialog |
| 10:21.56 | annma | with a backtrace |
| 10:21.57 | rindolf | annma: I didn't get one. |
| 10:22.03 | annma | so it's not a crash |
| 10:22.13 | rindolf | annma: didn't get a lot of those lately. |
| 10:22.23 | rindolf | annma: maybe something is broken. |
| 10:22.36 | annma | in your packages |
| 10:22.37 | rindolf | Then why would my panel disappear and then reappear after some seconds. |
| 10:22.56 | annma | if there's a plasma crash there's a backtrace to get |
| 10:23.28 | annma | either you have information or we cannot help you further |
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| 10:47.42 | yeskin | hello |
| 10:47.43 | yeskin | can anybody help pls |
| 10:51.56 | rindolf | yeskin: hi. with what? |
| 10:53.04 | yeskin | hi |
| 10:53.06 | yeskin | can login to KDE |
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| 10:53.32 | yeskin | after upgrade |
| 10:53.41 | yeskin | some error related to policykit |
| 10:53.50 | yeskin | I see in secure log - unauthorised agent message |
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| 10:54.01 | yeskin | and can login to gnome |
| 10:54.38 | yeskin | here it is: Jan 25 12:24:21 kerberoid polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1 (system bus name :1.23, object path /org/gnome/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus) |
| 10:54.51 | yeskin | but when I login to gnome all is okay. or using console - all is okay |
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| 11:45.59 | Operated | Hello everyone! |
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| 11:47.12 | rindolf | Hi Operated |
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| 12:02.00 | Operated | Since 4.5 (first time, when i compiled kde with nepomuk enabled) from time to time I have one question about KDE startup process. Is there any way to postpone (I hope, i picked right word) strigi database initialisation for some time after kde start? Just after startup, strigi (or nepomuk) using hard drive heavily for 30-40 seconds and slowing down other applications. Is there any compromise with nepomuk other than switching it off? |
| 12:02.58 | Operated | I'm using kde, compiled from svn 4.6 branch last friday. |
| 12:03.25 | annma | then you can choose how much resource should strigi uses in SystemSettings |
| 12:04.12 | annma | in Advanced Settings tab |
| 12:04.40 | Operated | I can see only ram usage there.. Default 50Mb are not optimal value? |
| 12:05.43 | annma | try get something smaller to see ifit helps |
| 12:06.19 | annma | what new stuff do you have when you restart KDE that strigi indexes? |
| 12:06.37 | annma | usually it shoudl not index anything new recisely at start |
| 12:07.38 | Operated | Seems, I can't lower this value less, than 50Mb. |
| 12:07.57 | annma | so |
| 12:08.02 | annma | what about my question |
| 12:08.20 | annma | what is it that strigi indexes at each KDE start |
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| 12:11.35 | Operated | I have folders with mostly static content in index database. That's why I have this question: if i start kde session, wait until nepomuk finishes his work and reboot, on next startup i'll have same picture - nepomuk will index his database content (as i can see in indexing status on 'Basic settings' tab). |
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| 12:12.12 | Operated | Database itself is 124Mb and contains ~8000 files. |
| 12:12.19 | annma | very samll |
| 12:12.22 | annma | small |
| 12:13.41 | Operated | File system is ext4 mounted with noatime, if this is important. |
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| 12:20.17 | Operated | so, normal nepomuk behaviour is to index only new or changed files runtime and not to tortur^W check database every startup? |
| 12:21.05 | svuorela | yes |
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| 12:32.48 | Operated | Okay, I'll try to test: i'll remove existing database and nepomuk* files in kde config folder. Then, i'll give nepomuk ~2000 files to index. After indexing done, I'll reboot and see, if it's behaviour changed. |
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| 12:36.25 | dive | I've been having a strange thing for a little while now in kopete. Whenever I get a notification bubble up it says something like '<qt>Icoming message from Fred</br>bla bla bla</qt> |
| 12:36.40 | dive | any idea how to get rid of the <tags>? |
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| 12:37.03 | dive | qt-4.7.0 kopete 1.0.80 kde 4.5.3 |
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| 12:49.49 | marcusdavidus | hello |
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| 12:50.13 | marcusdavidus | how to modyfity windows decoration theme look i mean how to change buttons |
| 12:50.34 | marcusdavidus | pls? |
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| 12:52.20 | Kolia | marcusdavidus: look around the system settings |
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| 12:58.33 | linar | how to bind keyboard shortcut to specific command ? |
| 12:59.12 | cb400f | khotkeys or "input actions" in systemsettings |
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| 13:00.43 | marcusdavidus | so any one know in what program modyfity kdm window decorator buttons? |
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| 13:01.47 | cb400f | kdm window decorator? .. don't think kdm has a window decorator.. prolly part of the kdm theme |
| 13:02.48 | marcusdavidus | not rly kdm alow u top change bars |
| 13:03.00 | marcusdavidus | but i want change button look on one of thius bars |
| 13:04.16 | ct529 | marcusdavidus: themes are usually in your $KDE4PATH/apps/kdm/themes |
| 13:04.21 | ct529 | marcusdavidus: if i am not wrong |
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| 13:12.10 | linar | cb400f: thank you |
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| 13:38.19 | Operated | In addition to my previous question: the most i/o-consuming process is nepomukservicestub with nepomukstrigiservice as a parameter. Right after startup htop shows that most i/o-read load from this process. So, any ideas, where to dig? |
| 13:40.44 | Operated | *in which direction? :) |
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| 13:42.05 | ct529 | Operated: same problem here |
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| 13:43.05 | cb400f | is it supposed to be surprising that the file indexer strigi has the most i/o? .. if some other process had more i/o then I'd be really worried :-) |
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| 13:43.39 | cb400f | just turn off strigi if you don't want an indexer |
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| 13:48.17 | mirrakor | short answer how useable is KDE 4.6.svn? |
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| 13:48.28 | mirrakor | (yes, I know it's svn and not productive at all) |
| 13:48.38 | Operated | It's supposed that strigi indexer slowing down system after startup for ~30-40 seconds without any changes in previously indexed files and so without any reason to reindex them on startup. Yes, i know that i can turn it off, but initial question was about fixing strigi/nepomuk inadequate behaviour on my system. |
| 13:49.41 | annma | so what are you indexing exactly |
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| 13:50.22 | annma | mirrakor: 4.6 will be released tomorrow so I guess it's as usable as we can make it |
| 13:51.35 | Operated | For test - one folder, 1600 media files and archives: ogg, flac, mkv, rar. |
| 13:52.03 | annma | so they don't change on KDE login |
| 13:52.08 | Operated | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.12 | Operated | exactly. |
| 13:52.18 | annma | thus once done strigi shouldn't do them again |
| 13:52.21 | mirrakor | annma: thanks, I'm using gentoo and can choose between a KDE based on 4.5.9999 (svn) or on trunk - which one would you suggest? (I'd like to use digikam 2beta and toy around with stuff) |
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| 13:52.30 | Goliath | hey |
| 13:52.35 | Goliath | in order to record with mic |
| 13:52.50 | Goliath | do i have to use xine phonon backend or vlc backend would also work? |
| 13:53.30 | annma | svn trunk is next 4.7 I advise against it except if you're a developer |
| 13:53.42 | cb400f | Goliath: what app do you use to record? |
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| 13:54.07 | Goliath | cb400f: audacity |
| 13:54.15 | mirrakor | I'd like to get my hands dirty, but I'm not very experienced so I thought maybe by using svn I make it easier for myself to get used to the code |
| 13:54.21 | cb400f | Goliath: completely unrelated to phonon then |
| 13:54.32 | Goliath | cb400f: what if i use arecord? |
| 13:54.52 | cb400f | same.. I don't even know if any phonon based recording app exists... maybe kwave |
| 13:55.07 | Goliath | cb400f: do i have to have pulseaudio? |
| 13:55.08 | Goliath | or not |
| 13:55.33 | cb400f | audacity has worked fine without pulseaudio since the dawn of time :-) |
| 13:55.37 | marcusdavidus | any one knows good plasmaoid with net/pppo +_cpu core1/2/ +cpu temp +nvidia params ? i use to use conky but not work to well with kde |
| 13:55.47 | cb400f | but you may need to adjust some sliders in kmix or alsamixer of course |
| 13:57.51 | Goliath | cb400f: do i have to use jack or alsa driver in audacity? |
| 13:57.56 | Goliath | to use linein or mic jacks |
| 13:58.35 | cb400f | well.. it has always just worked for me without worrying about all that stuff... don't think I have jack stuff by default |
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| 13:59.10 | cb400f | if you have a normal install with working alsa and working mic it audacity should be able to record it |
| 13:59.58 | Goliath | cb400f: in alsamixer or kde volume |
| 14:00.04 | Goliath | it says to choose input source 1 and 2 |
| 14:00.15 | Goliath | why cant i just use everything? |
| 14:00.45 | Operated | annma: seems, we're running in circles :) It shouldn't, but it does. |
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| 14:01.17 | annma | Operated: what kde version is it? |
| 14:01.31 | Operated | Seems problem not in indexing itself (preformed by vitruoso, as i can see), but in "/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice" process. |
| 14:01.36 | annma | and yes, I like running |
| 14:01.50 | Operated | kde svn 4.6 branch. Compiled n friday. |
| 14:02.00 | Operated | *on |
| 14:02.03 | annma | can't reproduce |
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| 14:02.39 | bbecker | is back. |
| 14:02.56 | Operated | same behaviour with slackware-current's 4.5 and previous versions. |
| 14:03.00 | Operated | eh, okay =) |
| 14:03.24 | Operated | Thanks for helping anyway :) |
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| 14:19.16 | ct529 | hi annma .... I have decided to use a different approach: install kde trunk in a virtual machine. which distro do you recommend for testing purposes? I was thinking of using the core of kubuntu 10.10, compiling kde manually though |
| 14:20.32 | annma | anydistrowill do ct529 |
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| 14:22.04 | ct529 | annma: ok, thanks .... |
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| 14:24.28 | ct529 | annma: this morning I logged a bug, who was the marked as duplicate of another, and marked as invalid, even if the two bugs were unconnected .... :? |
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| 14:24.55 | annma | what's the bug url? |
| 14:27.49 | ct529 | annma: was https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264199 |
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| 14:29.22 | annma | ct529: why do you say the duplicate is not one? |
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| 14:30.52 | pinotree | ct529: Application: kde4-window-decorator (0.0.1) (from your bug) â this is compiz |
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| 14:32.12 | ct529 | annma: see my comments at the end |
| 14:32.31 | ct529 | pinotree: exactly .... pity my bug is NOT about compiz .... I do not even have compiz installed |
| 14:32.50 | ct529 | pinotree: I am using kwin |
| 14:33.02 | pinotree | that isn't what your bug says |
| 14:33.26 | pinotree | your bug says that kde4-window-decorator (which is NOT kwin, but it is compiz) crashed |
| 14:33.57 | ct529 | pinotree: then there has to be something funny in the debugger, I use the automatic tool to generate reports |
| 14:34.55 | pinotree | i don't think so |
| 14:35.30 | ct529 | pinotree: I will check again .... but I have kwin clearly running, I can see it with top |
| 14:35.36 | ct529 | pinotree: or ps -ef |
| 14:35.49 | ct529 | pinotree: (and using a lot of resources by the way .... :D ....) |
| 14:36.07 | pinotree | do you have also a kde4-window-decorator process running? |
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| 14:37.17 | ct529 | pinotree: wait |
| 14:37.37 | ct529 | pinotree: nope |
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| 14:38.03 | ct529 | pinotree: ps -ef | grep -i decor does not return anything apart grep -i decor |
| 14:38.21 | pinotree | (please stop highlight my nick every message, given there's noone else talking) |
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| 14:39.42 | ct529 | sorry, but if you could highlight mine I would be grateful, because I am working as well, I need the irc windows to pop up when I get a message, or I end up ignoring it without realising |
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| 14:49.10 | gongoputch | is there a "look like kde3" setting in kde4? |
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| 14:49.55 | skfin|Tampere | gongoputch: There is kde3-styled widget theme, I dont remember the name |
| 14:50.50 | gongoputch | I will google |
| 14:51.25 | gongoputch | also, there used to be a "no icons on the desktop" option that allowed me to see my OS X desktop when running remote |
| 14:51.30 | cb400f | gongoputch: http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/is-kde-42-too-shiny/ |
| 14:51.47 | cb400f | bit old, but mostly still valid |
| 14:52.08 | gongoputch | KDE4 *is* too shiny. I *like* blocky with hard edges and functional. |
| 14:52.47 | gongoputch | cb400f: thanks |
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| 14:55.32 | ct529 | trying to run kde4-window-decorator results in error "The program 'kde4-window-decorator' is currently not installed." |
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| 15:27.02 | aliverius | any newsgroup reader for kde? |
| 15:27.16 | cb400f | knode |
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| 15:50.55 | petteyg | Having to choose based on city seems very unintuitive when you want to see general timezones outside your own. |
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| 17:00.59 | ale` | hi, Kde sometimes screws up the images on screen, as in http://imagebin.org/134351 . Any clue what's wrong and how to solve the problem? |
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| 17:23.32 | loadedwithwyrms | hi. klipper sucks. it's too slow. with what can it be replaced? |
| 17:23.52 | annma | slow? |
| 17:24.06 | luke-jr | How on earth do you add a printerââ |
| 17:24.11 | annma | how is it slow loadedwithwyrms |
| 17:24.16 | loadedwithwyrms | luke-jr: CUPS |
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| 17:24.26 | luke-jr | loadedwithwyrms: fine. CUPS. so how? |
| 17:24.36 | annma | KUbuntu has an excellent printer support |
| 17:24.51 | loadedwithwyrms | annma: i use urxvt, and also keyboard select perl script. when I make a selection, it takes a while befor eit shows up in the clipboard bank |
| 17:24.59 | luke-jr | I don't use Kubuntu, I use KDE |
| 17:25.28 | luke-jr | even with the printer config thing installed, it only supports network printers? |
| 17:25.34 | loadedwithwyrms | sometimes i even have to click on the klipper iconbank icon before it acknowledges that i made a selection |
| 17:26.08 | annma | printers is more a system thing luke-jr, a distro tool |
| 17:26.10 | cb400f | luke-jr: ask your distro if they have special tools.. or try the cups webinterface ( http://localhost:631 ) |
| 17:26.25 | luke-jr | annma: KDE 3 had a very good printer config module |
| 17:26.30 | annma | really? |
| 17:26.38 | annma | I always used my distro one |
| 17:26.44 | luke-jr | when did KDE abandon configuring standard system stuff? |
| 17:26.51 | loadedwithwyrms | luke-jr: what distro are you using? |
| 17:26.56 | luke-jr | cb400f: CUPS webinterface has nothing for local printers iether |
| 17:26.57 | luke-jr | Gentoo |
| 17:27.11 | loadedwithwyrms | oh cool |
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| 17:27.38 | loadedwithwyrms | luke-jr: have you looked at this? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml |
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| 17:30.00 | luke-jr | loadedwithwyrms: USB Printer #1 isn't an option |
| 17:30.01 | marcusdavidus | how toi make kmplayer use media buttons on my keyboard |
| 17:30.48 | loadedwithwyrms | luke-jr: is the driver installed? |
| 17:30.55 | loadedwithwyrms | for your printer? |
| 17:30.59 | luke-jr | hmm |
| 17:31.07 | luke-jr | plugging my printer into the wall helps apparently |
| 17:31.18 | loadedwithwyrms | HOLY SHI- |
| 17:31.19 | loadedwithwyrms | ;-) |
| 17:31.31 | leo_rockway | I don't know if this question belongs here, but my Amarok in Arch doesn't play mp3s while mplayer does. Anybody knows what could be the problem? |
| 17:31.33 | luke-jr | but now it wants a driver, and Samsugn isn't listed -.- |
| 17:32.20 | rindolf | leo_rockway: what is your phonon backend? |
| 17:32.24 | loadedwithwyrms | luke-jr: then you need to find the driver and install it |
| 17:32.28 | loadedwithwyrms | for your model |
| 17:32.37 | rindolf | leo_rockway: there's also #amarok |
| 17:33.04 | leo_rockway | rindolf: it's gstreamer. Should I ask there? |
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| 17:33.14 | rindolf | leo_rockway: in #amarok? |
| 17:33.16 | rindolf | leo_rockway: possibly. |
| 17:33.22 | leo_rockway | okay, thank you |
| 17:33.32 | rindolf | leo_rockway: then you may need to install the appropriate gstreamer plugins package. |
| 17:33.43 | rindolf | leo_rockway: there's gst-plugins-bad or something like that. |
| 17:33.53 | leo_rockway | this was working until Amarok got updated, that's what I find weird |
| 17:33.55 | leo_rockway | thanks rindolf |
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| 17:39.10 | leo_rockway | rindolf: there's a problem with my gstreamer. I'll use xine until I can figure out what's going on. Thank you. |
| 17:39.32 | rindolf | leo_rockway: OK. |
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| 17:44.37 | BajK_ | On my pc (I kept my home dir since KDE 4.2) and my notebook (fresh install!) the icons are so far apart that it just wastes a lot of space, on my mom's pc (also fresh install) the icons are quite tight |
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| 18:03.34 | killown | hi, someone give me a reason to use kde? I think it has a beautiful interface but I need know what is the greatest feature that makes kde be the best desktop for linux? |
| 18:04.51 | neverendingo | the beautiful interface :P |
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| 18:05.36 | loadedwithwyrms | killown: it has window placement and tiling |
| 18:05.56 | loadedwithwyrms | very useful things that more lightweight wms have as their main feature |
| 18:06.01 | leo_rockway | it has native decent compositing (although I don't use it) |
| 18:06.34 | killown | actually i am using gnome, but gnome 3 is going out of the focus(drastic changing on the interface) I didn't like the new gnome interface |
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| 18:06.48 | killown | loadedwithwyrms, tiling like ion3? |
| 18:06.51 | loadedwithwyrms | as well as native transparency, compositing, visual effects |
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| 18:07.30 | loadedwithwyrms | killown: its tiling is more like awesome, since you can fine-grain control the layout with mouse support. i think ion3 is mainly keyboard driven, isn't it? |
| 18:08.42 | killown | yes, ion3 is more keyboard driven, so i will test right now kde, what version do you recommend? I am getting the 4.5.5 one |
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| 18:10.14 | leo_rockway | there's also Plasma which is amazing |
| 18:10.31 | leo_rockway | I don't really use activities, but they are cool too. |
| 18:10.56 | killown | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.18 | loadedwith_ | widgets are useful too, especially the widget dashboard. |
| 18:13.15 | loadedwith_ | basically, the difference between gnome and kde is this: gnome is as simple and "boring" (as the devs call it), but you can customize it with a bunch of programs. kde already comes with many of these popular programs |
| 18:13.40 | loadedwith_ | and i don't mean programs like openoffice/pidgin. i'm talking about GUI programs |
| 18:14.08 | killown | loadedwith_, whats the name of the kde file manager? dolphin? |
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| 18:15.03 | loadedwith_ | killown: yeah |
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| 18:16.14 | killown | thanks |
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| 18:27.32 | BCMM | Klanticus: is there something you need to enable? |
| 18:27.48 | Klanticus | BCMM: no |
| 18:28.57 | BCMM | Klanticus: odd, for me there is just a tooltip saying "folder. 15 items." |
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| 21:21.46 | Alumin | is there a plasmoid that will periodically run a command and display its output? |
| 21:23.34 | Alumin | as in, every time it runs it replaces its display with the most recent output...not like a "tail -f" |
| 21:24.07 | leo_rockway | I'm guessing it wouldn't be too hard to do a plasmoid that does that, using cron (if it doesn't exist already) |
| 21:24.36 | Alumin | *nod* I was actually kinda surprised that I didn't find one |
| 21:24.41 | neverendingo | you could try a combination of a cronjob outputting to a file and using filewatcher plasmoid actually |
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| 21:25.11 | leo_rockway | I didn't know filewatcher, but that sounds like the solution I had in mind. |
| 21:25.12 | Alumin | ooh I could do that |
| 21:25.47 | neverendingo | or filewatch, i only know the german localized name |
| 21:25.47 | aseigo | Alumin: i think there's one on kde-look.org ... |
| 21:25.51 | aseigo | Alumin: for file watching, there's the file watch plasmoid |
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| 21:26.03 | neverendingo | that one :) |
| 21:26.09 | aseigo | Alumin: but for random commands, i was just helping a guy the other week who was writing such a thing, and i _think_ he put it on kde-look.org |
| 21:27.50 | Alumin | I found the file watch plasmoid, but whenever I set a file for it to watch, it doesn't save the setting |
| 21:28.20 | Alumin | I'll have a look on kde-look.org too, worth a shot in case I ever want it for something that doesn't lend itself to being in a file |
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| 22:55.07 | bertodsera | anyo9ne using kate here? |
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| 22:59.35 | leo_rockway | bertodsera: I do |
| 23:00.29 | bertodsera | leo_rockway: I just found out what I was looking for: kate `find . -type f` to load everything in one go :) |
| 23:00.44 | bertodsera | thanks anyway |
| 23:01.13 | Moobyfr_ | bad for some persons :) |
| 23:01.14 | leo_rockway | okay, np |
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| 23:01.32 | leo_rockway | I'm going home \ø |
| 23:01.33 | leo_rockway | bye |
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| 23:05.32 | tweakism | What would I rm in ~ to reset my KDE settings to defaults, but keep ex. my Kontact settings unharmed? |
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| 23:15.05 | loadedwithwyrms | hey guys, i was wondering about the choice of the name "K" for kde. is it because the letter K is prevalent in dutch names/words or something? |
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| 23:16.44 | sreich | loadedwithwyrms: no |
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| 23:17.36 | loadedwithwyrms | sreich: so what is the origin for the letter "K"? |
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| 23:18.28 | loadedwithwyrms | s/letter/usage of |
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| 23:20.56 | murchadh | Hello all. Have KDE 4.5.1 (kubuntu but may have been LinuxMint). Can the sizes of the screen edge and corner buttons be configured somewhere? 10mm above the corner and I get the edge action. |
| 23:22.12 | loadedwithwyrms | murchadh: what do you mean by screen edge"? do you mean snap zone? |
| 23:23.57 | murchadh | loadedwithwyrms: Active Screen Edge Actions - run the mouse to the screen edge to activate something - I use left edge show windows this desk, right edge show windows all desktops, etc. |
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| 23:24.40 | sreich | loadedwithwyrms: it's english. and you'd be disappointed :) |
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| 23:25.34 | murchadh | loadedwithwyrms: My bottom right corner shows all desktops - Grid I think, the size of this corner area is very tiny, usually activates the edge action instead. |
| 23:26.09 | murchadh | loadedwithwyrms: Just wondering if there was a way of redefining those edges in a .conf file. |
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| 23:27.14 | loadedwith_ | ugh, spotty connection -_- |
| 23:28.41 | junkDawgie | murchadh: i don't think there is any setting at all for corner sensitivity... but i agree that it's ludicrously small. |
| 23:29.34 | junkDawgie | i use the corner function to prevent the screensaver and it must be 2pixels |
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| 23:30.55 | loadedwi1h_ | murchadh: increasing activation delay is the only advice i can offer |
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| 23:31.42 | loadedwi1h_ | murchadh: this way if you linger you'll activate the screen edge action, which you wouldn't do if you were just moving the mouse around |
| 23:33.01 | murchadh | junkDawgie: I like "ludicrously" and "2 pixels". That's how that corner makes me feel sometime. My only niggle to iron out since I got tooltips to stop making firefox blink and the activities to stop duplicating themselves every plasma-desktop restart. |
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| 23:34.28 | murchadh | loadedwi1h_: Yeah, that all works, but the edge activates as the whole screen edge bar the top 3 and bottom 3 pixels, which are a different button/activator. |
| 23:35.18 | volty | hi, kde-4.5.1, kubuntu-10.10, i remember i had context menu to speech a text in previous versions, how can I setup this/ |
| 23:35.19 | volty | ? |
| 23:35.30 | murchadh | My last post didn't make much sense. |
| 23:35.52 | loadedwithwyrms | murchadh: i got the sense of it. it seems the top 3 pixels activate regardless, am i right? |
| 23:36.01 | loadedwithwyrms | s/top/top and bottom/ |
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| 23:39.47 | loadedwith_ | oh man, my freenode connection is so spotty today |
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| 23:40.09 | loadedwith_ | probably easier to log in some other day |
| 23:40.36 | murchadh | It's not a big problem, but I'll outline it as well as I can. There are 8 areas around the screen that act as buttons. The four screen edges and the four corners. I only use the left and right edges, and the two bottom corners; Left screen edge - show apps this desktop, Right Screen edge - show apps all desktops, Bottom Left corner - Show desktop and Bottom Right corner - show all desktops (I have 4). It all works perfectly except that the corner bits are |
| 23:40.38 | murchadh | tiny - a couple of pixels whereas the side button (we'll say button anyway) is all the edge minus the 3 pixels top and bottom assigned to Corners. Whew... |
| 23:42.01 | loadedwith_ | murchadh: that's beyond the limit of which i can help, sorry. maybe someone can help you build a qt patch? |
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| 23:44.48 | murchadh | loadedwith_: No worries. One of those things that is so useful it will be refined over time. I could assign all actions to corners, but the top corners already have buttons I use sometimes. Thanks again. |
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| 23:50.51 | adsfsa | 4.6 is going to revolutionize the linux desktop |
| 23:55.09 | woki | looks the same to me |
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| 23:55.52 | adsfsa | i was trolling |
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| 23:57.54 | adsfsa | how do you make kde look like gnome |
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