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| 01:19.19 | arch_is_awesome | Hey anyone know how to get around: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260719 |
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| 01:19.27 | arch_is_awesome | Bug 260719 |
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| 01:39.13 | arch_is_awesome_ | When will the bugfix release (4.6.1) be released? |
| 01:39.23 | arch_is_awesome_ | There are many I need that are fixed there |
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| 01:41.57 | arch_is_awesome_ | Nobody knows the release date? |
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| 01:53.48 | Mark_ | hello |
| 01:54.10 | Mark_ | can someone help me with the windows version of the KDE 4.5.4 |
| 01:54.35 | Mark_ | how do you activate the plasma desktop? |
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| 01:57.07 | Mark_ | anybody? |
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| 01:58.23 | al_capowned | I'm running KDE 4.5 on Gentoo and after removing Konquerer I seem to be having some issues with revdep-rebuild not being able to rebuild packages properly |
| 01:58.35 | al_capowned | maybe I removed konquerer improperly? |
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| 02:05.45 | Mark_ | jsut curious doesn't the KDE win 4.5.4 replace the whole win 7 shell? |
| 02:07.21 | jdjb | it does? |
| 02:07.32 | Jucato | Mark_: nope |
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| 02:07.47 | Mark_ | thanks jucato.. |
| 02:07.58 | Mark_ | so how do you get it then? |
| 02:08.09 | Jucato | if you want to have a plasma desktop, you'll have to run it like a separate program that takes over the whole screen. but explorer is still running underneath |
| 02:08.33 | Jucato | I can't remember how. try the people in #kde-windows |
| 02:08.44 | Jucato | al_capowned: that's something more for #gentoo-kde |
| 02:08.49 | Mark_ | right.. so where do you download it? i've only been able to find the installer for the other programs |
| 02:08.50 | al_capowned | ty |
| 02:11.40 | Jucato | Mark_: I honestly haven't tried installing kde on windows again in a long long time, so I can't remember which package in the installer also installs plasma-desktop. iirc if you selected "kdebase" as one of the things to install, it should be there, but not in the menu. I think you have to double-click on the application from Explorer (folder where you installed KDE). in any case, #kde-windows |
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| 02:24.17 | doda | something wierd makes all off kde not work, using archlinux |
| 02:24.27 | doda | and lxde is fine |
| 02:24.33 | doda | firefox too |
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| 02:24.44 | doda | how can i debug ? |
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| 02:28.41 | Daskreech | doda: What would you call all of KDE? |
| 02:29.03 | doda | Daskreech: startkde, plasma, apps from lxde etc ... |
| 02:29.22 | doda | may be distro related |
| 02:29.31 | doda | but on the forum there is nothing |
| 02:29.40 | lilltiger | doda: does kdm work? |
| 02:29.40 | Daskreech | doda: can you run krunner? |
| 02:29.59 | doda | Daskreech: nope, can't even log in in kde |
| 02:30.08 | doda | lilltiger: yep |
| 02:30.19 | Daskreech | You don't need to login to KDE to run krunner |
| 02:30.40 | doda | Daskreech: no, every app doesn't run |
| 02:30.53 | doda | Daskreech: krunner is an app too :) |
| 02:30.56 | lilltiger | doda: in an X terminal, does startkde give any meningfull output? |
| 02:31.08 | Daskreech | what is the output when you try to run it? |
| 02:31.34 | doda | lilltiger: aha, trying xinit now |
| 02:31.44 | doda | lilltiger: i tried slim/kdm & xinit |
| 02:32.25 | doda | http://pastebin.com/nwBAfN0c |
| 02:33.01 | lilltiger | doda: seems like an borked install of kde |
| 02:33.02 | doda | kded can't start |
| 02:33.31 | doda | lilltiger: wierd, should write on my distros forum i guess |
| 02:33.47 | lilltiger | doda: just try to reinstall it |
| 02:33.49 | doda | i did some stuff with switching from 64 to 32 bit |
| 02:33.53 | doda | lilltiger: did that |
| 02:34.06 | doda | but everything else works |
| 02:34.14 | lilltiger | ohh you switched without starting over from scratch? |
| 02:34.23 | doda | yes |
| 02:35.00 | lilltiger | make sure you dont have of the i686 kde packages |
| 02:35.36 | lilltiger | but could be some dep/lib to kded that is of wrong version |
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| 02:38.10 | doda | lilltiger: reinstalling everything atm |
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| 04:44.01 | jillsmitt | hi |
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| 04:44.54 | jillsmitt | when i start kdm my mouse cursor looks like default X cursor |
| 04:45.22 | jillsmitt | but when i login it change to oxygen |
| 04:45.30 | jillsmitt | can i use oxygen in kdm too? |
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| 05:58.51 | katsrc | and Nokia is going to mess up Qt? |
| 05:59.02 | katsrc | man dream and nightmare at the same time |
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| 06:24.19 | garrosh | KDE Development Platform: 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) |
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| 08:57.30 | Verge | I used Xbindkeys to bind my mouse thumb buttons to [XF86Back] and [XF86Forward] |
| 08:57.46 | Verge | To enable those buttons in Dolphin |
| 08:58.07 | Verge | But it doesn't work the same anymore: the event is not passed to window under cursor but to active window |
| 08:58.45 | Verge | Any other way to come around this than enabling "focus by hover" in KWin |
| 08:59.39 | Verge | Dunno if it's really that bad an option |
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| 09:10.57 | kukman | I have conflict in hotkeys for Increase/Decrease screen brightness. As I understand, I have system's callback for this hotkey ( I can change brightness in terminal ) and kde's callback. |
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| 09:11.28 | annma | kukman: hmm I already heard that one |
| 09:11.43 | annma | maybe look at bugs.kde.org |
| 09:11.46 | kukman | Currently, I disable kde's callback. But I want to disable system's callback and use kde's, because it has indicator |
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| 09:47.56 | kr_eten | hi global keyboard shortcuts do not work on my system with KDE and i am looking for a solution for some time now (i have asked 2-3 times already, with no success) |
| 09:48.20 | kr_eten | i need to track the problem somehow, but does not seem to know where to start looking |
| 09:49.32 | brot | kr_eten: what distribution do you have, and what kde version? |
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| 09:50.19 | kr_eten | KDE 4.5.5, slackware |
| 09:52.22 | kr_eten | i guess that it writes err log somewhere, and i have tried to find it previous times, but not sure i succeeded |
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| 10:09.06 | Ze-M | whats the kde app that tells about the disk space used? |
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| 10:13.07 | Jucato | Ze-M: there are a number of those, that present them in different styles. there's Filelight (radial "pie-like") |
| 10:13.18 | Ze-M | Jucato: thanks |
| 10:13.23 | Jucato | there's also fsview (more traditional boxes) |
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| 10:37.04 | ovi1 | hi guys...you know the world clock desktop widget that shows the daylight map of the earth? for me it seems to be inverted (as if the timezone is not right) |
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| 10:42.57 | Verge | Same thing here |
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| 10:43.12 | Verge | Claims it midnight here |
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| 10:46.31 | ovi1 | oh well..just a little malfunction :) |
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| 11:07.52 | tholin | is there any way to circulate applications in revers to alt+tab order? |
| 11:08.46 | kmzby | alt-shift-tab |
| 11:09.08 | tholin | excellent, thanks a lot |
| 11:09.09 | icarus-c | sigh |
| 11:09.16 | icarus-c | oops wrong window :P |
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| 11:30.45 | queden | who is the main responsible for the split view in dolphin? I have a big list of improvements, too many to open bugreports for each |
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| 11:37.58 | ArGGu^^ | queden maybe better luck to ask it from #kde-devel |
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| 11:38.18 | queden | alright, thanks ArGGu^^ |
| 11:38.20 | pinotree | the dolphin developer doesn't do irc |
| 11:38.54 | pinotree | contact peter penz, see the dolphin's about dialog |
| 11:39.12 | pinotree | queden: â |
| 11:48.15 | alip | anyone using networkmanager plasma applet around? here I get "error: invalid state" for wlan0 and the security option WPA-PSK is missing (only LEAP, dynamic WEP and WEP are there) ?!! |
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| 11:58.03 | cb400f | Sho_: yakuake 2.9.8, doesn't seem in line with konsole 4.6 shortcuts (mainly ctrl+shift+t for new tab), is that intended? or is it me doing something wrong? |
| 11:59.37 | Sho_ | cb400f: neither |
| 12:00.41 | linuxkeitaro | back |
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| 12:01.34 | cb400f | ah, so it's a "bug".. thought it might be... I should change the shortcuts manally.. I'll never get used to the new konsole shortcuts until yakuake is using the same (main) ones :-) |
| 12:02.04 | Sho_ | cb400f: basically i forgot to update them to bring them in sync |
| 12:02.16 | Sho_ | not really a "bug" per so though it would be sensible to do so of course |
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| 12:02.28 | Sho_ | *per se |
| 12:02.47 | cb400f | yeah, that's why I used the quotes |
| 12:03.22 | Sho_ | you could look into submitting a patch :-) |
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| 12:18.39 | gergap | hi |
| 12:20.11 | queden | thanks pinotree |
| 12:20.17 | gergap | I currently have the problem with 4.6.0 that after some time the laptop light goes out (power saving) and doesn't go on again. But I'm actually not sure if KDE4.6.0 introduced the problem of if it comes with kernel 2.6.37, because I changed both. Is this problem known? |
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| 12:22.27 | Niek_ | Fun. |
| 12:23.29 | Niek_ | I've unplugged an external monitor from my laptop. And I've just started it again, however the laptop still seems to think it's connected. My primary desktop isn't shown. |
| 12:24.01 | Niek_ | Is there a keypress available like in windows (meta + P) to switch between displays/projectors? |
| 12:24.24 | Niek_ | Or how else can I reach the display settings from the secondary desktop to adjust the settings? |
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| 12:25.48 | gergap | Niek_: use xrandr or krandr |
| 12:26.04 | Niek_ | gergap: I have no k-menu on my 2nd display. |
| 12:26.09 | gergap | Niek_: xrandr --auto should configure it for standard use cases. |
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| 12:26.28 | gergap | Niek_: you only need a shell |
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| 12:27.34 | Niek_ | funky, now I have a black screen =) |
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| 12:29.26 | gergap | Niek_: have a look here for some detailed exampels http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#Using_xrandr_to_do_useful_things |
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| 12:34.09 | Niek_ | gergap: any idea how I can bring up the window that let's me set display settings? |
| 12:34.38 | gergap | Niek_: ALT-F2 krandr ? |
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| 12:35.32 | Niek_ | gergap: hms that doesn't seem to be installed |
| 12:35.52 | Niek_ | I've reached the system settings by adding a new panel, a new k-menu button |
| 12:36.29 | Niek_ | seems the other displays are turned off as one would expect, but it looks like I have to rebuild my taskbar or something. |
| 12:39.16 | Niek_ | gergap: thanks anyway :) |
| 12:39.26 | gergap | Niek_: the app is named krandrtray, but KRunner should complete it. |
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| 12:42.03 | Niek_ | gergap: ahh you're right |
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| 13:21.36 | CMoH | hey. what's the status on kde pim development? any chance of a release? |
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| 13:22.07 | b2ag | bump |
| 13:23.03 | pinotree | b2ag: bump what? |
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| 13:24.42 | b2ag | the question |
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| 13:25.42 | pinotree | which question? |
| 13:25.57 | CMoH | the PIM question? |
| 13:26.25 | pinotree | which was yours nor his, right? |
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| 13:27.20 | Raulin | Trying to set up dual monitors but I only get window decorations on one of them. |
| 13:30.21 | Raulin | nm launching kwin in the other monitor solved it. |
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| 13:32.20 | CMoH | is there some information on when the PIM is gonna be released? i've been experiencing a constantly decreasing satisfaction since kde-4 was released, so I would really like to know if I should consider waiting for it another year or moving on |
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| 13:33.08 | CMoH | i'm not trying to flame or anything; just looking for info |
| 13:35.35 | pinotree | i'm personally not aware of that, try asking in #kontact |
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| 13:37.51 | CMoH | thanks |
| 13:38.15 | CMoH | hmm... that seems like a dev channel |
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| 13:55.32 | HozsiNekedTesoka | ikonia bryder:ED |
| 13:55.36 | HozsiNekedTesoka | Ola bryder! |
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| 13:59.28 | clarjon1 | heyo |
| 13:59.44 | clarjon1 | What's the name of the utility to run plasma widgets as if they were standalone programs again? |
| 14:02.14 | cb400f | clarjon1: plasmoidviewer |
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| 14:03.59 | clarjon1 | tyvm |
| 14:04.00 | clarjon1 | :) |
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| 14:05.16 | jswensen | Anyone here familiar with the Konsole source code? I have a few questions about Kpty.h and KPty.cpp. Is this a KDE developer channel or KDE user channel, or both? |
| 14:05.27 | gergap | re |
| 14:05.49 | Jucato | jswensen: user channel |
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| 14:06.03 | jswensen | Jucato: Is there a KDE dev channel? |
| 14:06.08 | gergap | It looks like the backlight issue was just a kernel problem. |
| 14:06.12 | Sho_ | jswensen: try to get in touch with khindenburg on #kde-devel |
| 14:06.19 | Jucato | what he said :) |
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| 14:07.03 | jswensen | Sho_ and Jucato: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
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| 14:45.26 | Niek_ | which files do I have to clear in order to get a default desktop again? I'm missing panels and windows seem to appear off screen for some reason. |
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| 14:48.32 | annma | Niek_: in your .kde/share/configbackup all plasma files |
| 14:48.44 | annma | ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 14:48.51 | annma | depending on your distribution |
| 14:49.08 | annma | in your .kde/share/config/ backup all plasma files |
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| 14:50.31 | Niek_ | annma: I'm using fedora 14 |
| 14:50.37 | annma | ask them |
| 14:50.45 | annma | I have no idea about it |
| 14:50.55 | Niek_ | That's okay. I thought it was a generic KDE question. |
| 14:51.23 | annma | I answered generically |
| 14:51.34 | Jucato | ~/.kde/ |
| 14:51.35 | apt | /.kde/ is probably the directory where KDE stores it's settings and stuff |
| 14:51.41 | annma | the $KDEHOME location depends on the distribution choice |
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| 14:51.47 | Niek_ | Ah okay. Didn't know that. |
| 14:51.51 | Niek_ | Thanks though. :) |
| 14:52.17 | annma | :) |
| 14:52.38 | annma | logout, backup all files with plasma in their names and log back in |
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| 14:54.13 | Niek_ | annma: thanks that did the trick =) |
| 14:55.00 | annma | :) |
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| 16:28.00 | KGBWolf | need some help setting up XRDP server on ubuntu KDE |
| 16:28.12 | KGBWolf | dont know where to begin |
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| 16:41.31 | aovidal | Hi everybody, are there any posibility to change activities icon in KDE 4.6? Or it isn't enabled? |
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| 16:49.51 | aseigo | aovidal: if nepomuk is running, yes. you can edit the activity and click on the icon to select a new one |
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| 16:56.10 | aovidal | aseigo: Nepomuk running and I cant change icon :( |
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| 17:14.14 | pgib | hello. I am confused by DPI. My system was previously set to 96DPI (as confirmed by xdpyinfo) everything is way too small. so I changed my DPI to 120. (confirmed by xdpyinfo) but my fonts all look the same. I wanted everything (fonts, icons, etc) to be larger. |
| 17:14.33 | pgib | the Fonts section in KDE seems to say my DPI is 120 as well. |
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| 17:19.23 | Damnshock | pgib: did you logoff and login back again? |
| 17:19.58 | suse | hello |
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| 17:21.34 | suse | is there also an german channel ? and how can i join it |
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| 17:26.20 | pgib | Damnshock, I restarted X entirely |
| 17:26.29 | pgib | brb, changed some more stuff |
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| 17:47.06 | MNZ | is there some fix for the toolbar flash that happens on switching tabs in konqueror? |
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| 17:49.18 | miniBill | how do I tell kwin to show the desktop grid, via dbus? |
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| 17:52.47 | mgraesslin | miniBill: there is no direct way, but it might be possible to trigger the shortcut through dbus |
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| 17:54.09 | miniBill | I tried just triggering the shortcut |
| 17:54.19 | miniBill | setting the destination windows to desktop |
| 17:54.22 | miniBill | but didn't work |
| 17:59.23 | aovidal | even by dbus, I can't chage activities icon jajaja |
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| 18:08.41 | miniBill | mgraesslin: which window should I target for the shortcut? |
| 18:09.01 | mgraesslin | window? probably none |
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| 18:13.39 | miniBill | eh, doesn't seem to work |
| 18:13.48 | miniBill | could you PLEASE try it on your system? |
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| 18:26.47 | PasNox | hello |
| 18:27.01 | PasNox | i have an old phone with a SIM i want to get contacts / phones number |
| 18:27.12 | PasNox | what is the state regarding that in kde ? |
| 18:27.18 | PasNox | KMobile tools ported ? |
| 18:27.42 | PasNox | I has IrDA receptor |
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| 18:30.17 | Klanticus | PasNox: it's not ported afaik |
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| 18:33.53 | PasNox | Klanticus: hm i see kmobiletools kde4 package in kpackagekit ? |
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| 18:36.04 | PasNox | bah kde3 application ... |
| 18:36.09 | PasNox | stupid kubuntu packager |
| 18:36.13 | PasNox | :D |
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| 18:37.02 | miniBill | XD |
| 18:37.09 | miniBill | kubuntu is stupid |
| 18:37.19 | miniBill | I'm prolly switching to gentoo on my laptop. or Arch |
| 18:38.25 | Klanticus | PasNox: it looks like there was an effort to port it, but the development halted. -> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=15259 |
| 18:38.55 | PasNox | miniBill: i'm looking for an alternative too, i'm tired of kubuntu ... each major kde upgrade is a pain in my ass. |
| 18:39.02 | PasNox | Klanticus: thanks |
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| 18:40.00 | miniBill | PasNox: well, gentoo and arch cannot be considered alternatives to kubuntu XD |
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| 18:41.06 | PasNox | i'm planning on pure debian or charka |
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| 18:41.09 | PasNox | chkra* |
| 18:41.21 | PasNox | maybe opensuse, but rpm inside i'm scared :D |
| 18:41.39 | miniBill | never tried chakra |
| 18:41.41 | PasNox | my mandrake days was a nightmare and it make me hate this package type :D |
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| 18:41.46 | miniBill | tried opensuse, hated it |
| 18:41.58 | PasNox | arg :( |
| 18:42.01 | miniBill | cause it took me ~10 minutes to install a single package |
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| 18:42.13 | PasNox | debian could be fine, but kde update will be long to have :/ |
| 18:42.22 | PasNox | hehe rpm inside :) |
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| 18:42.54 | miniBill | debian is good |
| 18:43.06 | miniBill | but slow |
| 18:43.12 | PasNox | slow ? |
| 18:43.13 | miniBill | slow in updating |
| 18:43.18 | PasNox | like slow desktop / computer ? |
| 18:43.21 | miniBill | nope |
| 18:43.21 | PasNox | ah yes |
| 18:43.26 | PasNox | exactly what i think too :/ |
| 18:43.28 | miniBill | slow like stable |
| 18:44.02 | PasNox | ;) |
| 18:44.16 | miniBill | nah, speedwise it is good |
| 18:44.22 | miniBill | aligned with the others |
| 18:44.52 | PasNox | base is same, drivers are same |
| 18:44.59 | PasNox | so yes ;) |
| 18:45.11 | MNZ | funny I was just thinking that.... we are on kde4.4.... on debian unstable! |
| 18:45.21 | PasNox | :D |
| 18:45.29 | PasNox | 4.6 here on kubuntu 10.10 ppa |
| 18:45.59 | MNZ | 4.7 is where it's at :P (just got it running moments ago!) |
| 18:46.24 | PasNox | wow! |
| 18:46.29 | PasNox | what s up inside? |
| 18:46.30 | MNZ | though plasma is crashing on me when I try to edit the panel |
| 18:46.35 | PasNox | :) |
| 18:46.40 | PasNox | i very like kde4 |
| 18:46.46 | PasNox | but my god how much it's bugguy :'( |
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| 18:47.10 | MNZ | I dunno bout 4.6 so this may not be news: I love the newspaper and starter views! also activities are starting to be useable! |
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| 18:47.41 | MNZ | and the new sleek look is awesome, the black and white glowy status bar icons are awesome |
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| 18:48.34 | PasNox | have u screnshots? |
| 18:50.09 | MNZ | nah not really, but google should definitely have em |
| 18:51.04 | PasNox | ok |
| 18:51.29 | PasNox | anybody experienced with configuring irda connection betweeb usb irda device and phone ? |
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| 18:59.32 | Azoff | hello |
| 18:59.35 | Azoff | are you developing Icecream? |
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| 19:08.36 | Ahyuwhiye | where is the kde 4.6.1 roadmap? |
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| 19:14.28 | Damnshock | Ahyuwhiye: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.6_Release_Schedule |
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| 19:30.51 | PasNox | bah too bad, kmobiletools allow to see contact but i can't export them because there is no kde3 adresse book ... |
| 19:31.06 | miniBill | awww :( |
| 19:31.09 | PasNox | building kde4 port of kmobiletools |
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| 19:45.57 | CalimeroTeknik | hi ! I have a somewhat strange question : how does kde keep the current numlock status ? |
| 19:46.08 | CalimeroTeknik | over a reboot, I mean |
| 19:46.23 | CalimeroTeknik | how does it get the numlock status on shutdown ? |
| 19:48.29 | annma | should keep it somewhere |
| 19:48.41 | annma | was broken somehow as X might trick it |
| 19:49.06 | CalimeroTeknik | yup, but how is it determined ? |
| 19:49.22 | CalimeroTeknik | the current status of numlock |
| 19:49.29 | annma | it should keep a config state |
| 19:50.06 | CalimeroTeknik | at some point, as the status is memorized, it needs to be determined |
| 19:50.14 | CalimeroTeknik | from the current status of num lock |
| 19:50.18 | annma | there is default |
| 19:50.26 | CalimeroTeknik | no, not really |
| 19:50.33 | annma | yes |
| 19:50.46 | CalimeroTeknik | there is (or was on kde3 I don't know), an option "keep the last status" |
| 19:51.02 | CalimeroTeknik | that means kde restores the status of num lock, whatever it was |
| 19:51.20 | CalimeroTeknik | for that, it needs to be determined sowehow |
| 19:51.46 | CalimeroTeknik | when closing the session that is |
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| 19:58.14 | annma | CalimeroTeknik: in SystemSettings there's an option about numlock |
| 19:58.42 | annma | Turn On, Turn Off or Leave Unchanged (from default) |
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| 19:59.20 | CalimeroTeknik | yup, but that reloads the last known state annma |
| 19:59.34 | annma | so what do you want? |
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| 19:59.42 | CalimeroTeknik | to know how that is performed |
| 19:59.52 | annma | how come? |
| 19:59.53 | CalimeroTeknik | getting the current numlocl status |
| 19:59.59 | CalimeroTeknik | numlock* |
| 20:00.14 | CalimeroTeknik | I'm curious, and I don't use kde on all of my PCs :) |
| 20:00.44 | CalimeroTeknik | my 400MHz pentium 2 laptop has a minimal WM setup, you'll understand why. |
| 20:00.49 | annma | grep in kde sources for "NumLock on KDE stratup" |
| 20:00.57 | annma | startup even |
| 20:00.59 | CalimeroTeknik | I feared that anwser |
| 20:01.08 | annma | well that's the best I can do |
| 20:01.15 | CalimeroTeknik | thanks anyway :) |
| 20:01.37 | annma | if you want more precise KDE code Ican grep for you |
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| 20:02.10 | CalimeroTeknik | I guess it's a Qt function, so I'd better see the Qt documentation before anything else |
| 20:02.17 | PasNox | hello |
| 20:02.35 | annma | not sure |
| 20:02.38 | PasNox | anybody know the argument to give to cmake for building apps to install in correct folder ? |
| 20:02.51 | annma | PasNox: read techbase.kde.org |
| 20:02.58 | PasNox | i just tried: cmake .. , but result to an install in /usr/local and does not works :/ |
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| 20:03.09 | PasNox | app does not works* |
| 20:03.19 | PasNox | i read and found nothing interesting :/ |
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| 20:04.38 | annma | really |
| 20:04.43 | annma | why do you build stuff |
| 20:05.33 | PasNox | i'm trying the kde4 port of KMobileTools, as the kde3 package in kubuntu is totally obsolete and even useless stuff, as we can't export contact ( because of the lack of kde3 kadress book ) |
| 20:05.40 | annma | CalimeroTeknik: kde-workspace/kcontrol/keyboard/kcmmiscwidget.ui: <string>NumLock on KDE Startup</string> |
| 20:06.05 | annma | PasNox: you'd better read techbase deeper |
| 20:06.18 | annma | -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX= |
| 20:06.40 | annma | you're bound to not succeed if you don't know what you are doing |
| 20:06.44 | PasNox | i know the variable, but they was a usefull command to use to get the path by a cli |
| 20:06.52 | PasNox | i know what i do |
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| 20:06.59 | annma | get what path |
| 20:07.02 | PasNox | stop taking me for a stupid guy |
| 20:07.07 | PasNox | i'm a dev i know what i do ... |
| 20:07.24 | annma | you said cmake .. |
| 20:07.24 | annma | so |
| 20:07.27 | sreich | so why haven't you figured it out by yourself, then? |
| 20:07.32 | annma | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=<what-you-want> .. |
| 20:07.36 | CalimeroTeknik | okay that is the ui |
| 20:07.45 | PasNox | they is a thig like cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX='the magic command to get kde install dir" .. |
| 20:07.46 | annma | CalimeroTeknik: it'll lead you to the rest |
| 20:07.53 | PasNox | thing* |
| 20:08.02 | CalimeroTeknik | man 3 XChangeKeyboardControl â |
| 20:08.13 | annma | PasNox: there is no "magic", only shell aliases |
| 20:08.21 | PasNox | i don't want to give the path myself as there is a command for that |
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| 20:08.28 | annma | there is not |
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| 20:08.35 | annma | why would there |
| 20:08.40 | sreich | unless he's thinking of kde4-config --prefix |
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| 20:08.54 | PasNox | annma: kde-config --prefix |
| 20:08.56 | PasNox | there is. |
| 20:09.09 | annma | if he thinks of that he is a fool as we never install built KDE in a global prefix |
| 20:09.19 | annma | we never do that as devels |
| 20:09.22 | annma | never ever |
| 20:10.02 | PasNox | annma: installign the app in /usr/local make the app not working, and i don't want to add extra path in my PATH/LIB environement variable, and the day kmobiletools will be in kde4 officialy, i will have already format my hard disk ;) |
| 20:10.24 | annma | PasNox: installing in a different prefix than KDE global WORKS |
| 20:10.30 | annma | just set $KDEDIRS |
| 20:10.35 | annma | it's all in the env vars |
| 20:10.43 | PasNox | ok, let try :) |
| 20:10.53 | annma | as I said, devels NEVER install in global dir |
| 20:10.58 | annma | and never as root |
| 20:11.50 | PasNox | :) |
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| 20:13.42 | PasNox | bah, installed in /usr/local, update ldconfig, update KDEDIRS ; ldconfig, still not work - app can't find its kpart damn |
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| 20:14.51 | annma | kbuildsycoca4? |
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| 20:15.42 | miniBill | you realize you're using too much your pc when you don't need to think of shortcuts anymore, but you only think of what you want to do |
| 20:16.36 | PasNox | annma: ah let try :) |
| 20:17.25 | PasNox | annma: hehe, was that, thank you ;) |
| 20:17.55 | miniBill | lol |
| 20:18.12 | miniBill | what does that command do? |
| 20:18.27 | PasNox | it update the installed kde4 apps cache |
| 20:18.33 | PasNox | and plugins i think |
| 20:18.35 | PasNox | :) |
| 20:19.21 | annma | hehe |
| 20:19.27 | annma | ;) |
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| 20:19.51 | miniBill | PasNox: oh, when you're done, could you tell me if you succeded? |
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| 20:19.54 | miniBill | I'm sort of interested |
| 20:20.06 | annma | in KMobileTools? |
| 20:20.12 | miniBill | yes |
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| 20:20.27 | PasNox | miniBill: built and installed, now have to test |
| 20:20.36 | annma | no idea what that does |
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| 20:20.48 | annma | what's if for? |
| 20:20.51 | annma | it |
| 20:20.59 | PasNox | ah too bad as claim on kmobiletools page it should show in kontact but it does not, have to start it myself :D |
| 20:21.18 | PasNox | annma: import/export phone contacts , sms, mms etc |
| 20:21.34 | PasNox | for my part i want to get my old sim contact list |
| 20:21.42 | PasNox | and contacts in phone |
| 20:21.49 | annma | wants google sync |
| 20:22.00 | annma | contacts, calendar |
| 20:22.16 | miniBill | for what concerns me I want to back up my 1900+ sms in an open format |
| 20:22.24 | miniBill | that I can search, and stuff |
| 20:22.32 | miniBill | nokia own backup format is proprietary |
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| 20:22.51 | annma | oh why do you want to back up SMSs? |
| 20:22.58 | annma | I never thought of that |
| 20:23.07 | PasNox | annma: exists, install akonadi-googledata package in ubuntu :) |
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| 20:23.22 | annma | PasNox: it's a pain and I don't run ubuntu |
| 20:23.26 | annma | I want EASY* |
| 20:23.47 | PasNox | oh it's really easy, create resource akonadi type google , set email / password |
| 20:23.54 | PasNox | works - visible contact in kontacts |
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| 20:24.04 | miniBill | annma: why having a backup? cause some of them have a meaning to me :) |
| 20:24.08 | PasNox | i was using it until kde 4.5, but seem broken in kde 4.6 :( |
| 20:24.08 | annma | well I installed stuff with pain and got no real sync |
| 20:24.35 | annma | miniBill: yes, makes sense but I would not save them personally |
| 20:24.45 | annma | even mails, I seldom re-read a mail |
| 20:25.19 | annma | the whole PIM is broken in 4.6 and was not existant in 4.5 PasNox |
| 20:25.20 | PasNox | what mean seldom ? |
| 20:25.43 | annma | it means rarely |
| 20:25.54 | annma | (I think) |
| 20:26.01 | annma | I am not an English native |
| 20:26.13 | PasNox | annma: dunno what u call pim in kde 4.5 but in this version i was using kontact with akonadi support for google calendar and contacts ( and i was even able to update the contact and push to google ) |
| 20:26.33 | annma | I still use pim from 4.4 PasNox |
| 20:26.37 | PasNox | ok |
| 20:26.54 | annma | probably your distro ships it as well |
| 20:27.01 | PasNox | maybe the package existe for your distrib, just check for akonadi-googledata ;) |
| 20:27.06 | annma | maybe some akonadi stuff was updated |
| 20:27.13 | PasNox | possible |
| 20:27.17 | annma | well I compile the whole KDE |
| 20:27.52 | annma | but I installed stuff like you said except I got the sync only from Google cal to KOrganizer, not the other way around |
| 20:28.38 | PasNox | i dunno about google calendar i did not push something, but for sure contacts was working |
| 20:28.48 | annma | that's the bad part of compiling KDE, you do not get pre-digested stuff |
| 20:29.13 | annma | the calendar is a daily tool to me |
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| 20:36.59 | vlj | hi |
| 20:37.07 | PasNox | damn, kmobiletools fuck me :D |
| 20:37.16 | vlj | I have an issue ... I have a nvidia card on a laptop with kde 4.6 |
| 20:37.25 | PasNox | it eating more than 3gb of ram and destroy my session :) |
| 20:37.26 | vlj | kmenu animation is quite sluggish |
| 20:37.36 | PasNox | hi vlj |
| 20:37.37 | vlj | as well as resizing window |
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| 20:37.51 | vlj | my fps drop from 50+ fps to 40 fps |
| 20:37.54 | PasNox | are u sure u installed the nvidia driver proprietary ? |
| 20:37.58 | vlj | yup |
| 20:38.02 | vlj | 270.18 |
| 20:38.26 | vlj | however when I have chrome in full screen with accelerated canvas compositing, the kmenu open flawlessly over it |
| 20:38.40 | PasNox | strange |
| 20:38.59 | vlj | my desktop is not unusable |
| 20:39.03 | vlj | but it is quite annoying |
| 20:39.08 | PasNox | i see |
| 20:39.23 | PasNox | did u try to change style ? |
| 20:39.32 | vlj | no |
| 20:39.34 | PasNox | oxygen is very slow for me even having a good computer |
| 20:39.38 | vlj | it can improve things ? |
| 20:39.39 | vlj | ok |
| 20:39.49 | PasNox | i use QtCurve for my part it's the much faster i found |
| 20:40.13 | PasNox | and best of all is themable so u can render the style based on config files |
| 20:40.19 | vlj | I have the "Air theme" |
| 20:40.29 | PasNox | so am i |
| 20:41.37 | vlj | things are a bit better with xrender |
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| 20:43.15 | FloridaGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.24 | PasNox | right click your desktop |
| 20:44.27 | PasNox | properties |
| 20:44.35 | PasNox | and add path to your new wallpapers path |
| 20:44.42 | PasNox | u could remove the default one too |
| 20:45.42 | FloridaGuy | PasNox: dont see where to add path |
| 20:47.23 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: which version of kde? |
| 20:47.38 | PasNox | be sure to change your desktop type to "diaporama" |
| 20:48.45 | FloridaGuy | PasNox: 4.6.0 |
| 20:49.35 | Harrold | I have a weird behavior in kde-4.6.0. I have a gentoo system setup |
| 20:49.50 | Harrold | each time a flash application ran oder video ran for the first time, it somehow burns itself into the background |
| 20:49.53 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: the u definitly have this feature :) |
| 20:50.12 | Harrold | wo when I use a program with a white background, I see the last scene of the video on the background |
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| 20:52.45 | FloridaGuy | PasNox: i dont see anywhere to change the path of the wallpapers |
| 20:54.36 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: put your desktop mode to "diaporama" then u will see |
| 20:57.20 | FloridaGuy | PasNox: how do i put desktop mode to diaporama |
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| 21:01.38 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: the first property at top ( combobox ) |
| 21:02.37 | icewind_ | PasNox: you mean slideshow? |
| 21:03.31 | FloridaGuy | PasNox: what combobox |
| 21:06.39 | FloridaGuy | icewind_: yes he ment slidshow...and thats now what i want...want to change the default location of desktop wallpapers |
| 21:06.54 | PasNox | icewind_: yes slideshow ( diaporama in french, sorry :) ) |
| 21:07.10 | PasNox | sorry for the delay :) |
| 21:07.20 | icewind_ | silly French people and their silly language :P |
| 21:07.45 | PasNox | well at least we learn something other that native language. |
| 21:07.52 | PasNox | what do u know apart english ? |
| 21:07.54 | PasNox | :) |
| 21:07.55 | icewind_ | FloridaGuy: I don't think that possible, you could try some symlinking magic |
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| 21:08.17 | icewind_ | PasNox: dutch and some german |
| 21:08.22 | icewind_ | and like 2 words french |
| 21:08.22 | icewind_ | :P |
| 21:08.23 | PasNox | damn :) |
| 21:09.02 | PasNox | o know some spanish , but i dislike this language :) |
| 21:09.07 | PasNox | I know* |
| 21:09.24 | FloridaGuy | there has to be a script for desktop settings....pointing to /usr/share/wallpapers...that i can point it to /home/mike/wallpapers |
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| 21:10.57 | FloridaGuy | is there a dev channel...that would be more help |
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| 21:11.13 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: i don't think so, it's just a kde desktop default path i think, else try reading xgd specifications |
| 21:11.15 | miniBill | PasNox: I dislike spanish too :) I'm italian :3 |
| 21:11.20 | PasNox | it's to be there is it exists ;) |
| 21:11.26 | PasNox | miniBill: :D |
| 21:11.36 | miniBill | FloridaGuy: set the background to slideshow. then set path |
| 21:11.37 | PasNox | i'm portuguese, and i dislike them too :D |
| 21:11.41 | miniBill | FloridaGuy: it's EASY |
| 21:11.45 | miniBill | PasNox: XDD |
| 21:11.54 | PasNox | he just want to change the global wallpapers path |
| 21:11.57 | FloridaGuy | i dont want slidshow |
| 21:12.00 | PasNox | but i think this option does not exists ! |
| 21:12.02 | miniBill | ah |
| 21:12.07 | PasNox | just change the slideshow paths :) |
| 21:12.07 | miniBill | that doesn't make sense |
| 21:12.16 | miniBill | why one would like to change that path |
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| 21:12.18 | miniBill | o_O |
| 21:12.28 | miniBill | I mean |
| 21:12.34 | miniBill | changing slideshow path makes sense |
| 21:12.45 | FloridaGuy | i did that...but for normal wallpaper it still reads from default |
| 21:12.47 | PasNox | i agree, dunno understand too :) |
| 21:13.09 | miniBill | FloridaGuy: normal wallpaper? you can select wallpapers from any directory you like |
| 21:13.09 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: sudo rm -fr /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 21:13.16 | miniBill | FloridaGuy: dont do that |
| 21:13.23 | PasNox | sudo ln -s /home/mike/wallpapers /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 21:13.24 | miniBill | PasNox: DONT DO THAT |
| 21:13.25 | PasNox | :D |
| 21:13.29 | miniBill | no rly |
| 21:13.29 | icewind_ | FloridaGuy: well there is no config file in ~/.kde4 that defines /usr/share/wallpapers so I think you can't configure it |
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| 21:13.35 | miniBill | it would work |
| 21:13.44 | miniBill | but it's not something you should do |
| 21:14.06 | PasNox | was a joke ;) |
| 21:14.26 | PasNox | miniBill:was u to be informed about kmobiletools ? |
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| 21:15.07 | icewind_ | irc: giving bad advice since 1990 :P |
| 21:15.18 | miniBill | PasNox: not funny XD there are ppl who can't understand THAT kind of jokes |
| 21:15.23 | miniBill | PasNox: yes, it was me :) |
| 21:15.27 | miniBill | icewind_: totally |
| 21:15.58 | PasNox | miniBill: kmobiletools gammu backend ( kde4) is still very priliminary, but the gtk Wammu ( gammu interface ) is working fine |
| 21:16.04 | PasNox | i can see my sms and export |
| 21:16.10 | PasNox | but ... contacts does not works |
| 21:16.12 | PasNox | :'( |
| 21:16.19 | PasNox | on my phoene at lease ;) |
| 21:16.22 | PasNox | least* |
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| 21:17.49 | miniBill | thanks for the info |
| 21:17.54 | miniBill | so you suggest wammu |
| 21:17.55 | miniBill | I'l try |
| 21:17.58 | miniBill | *I'll |
| 21:18.12 | PasNox | for now yes, but kmobiletools kde4 is promising but lacking team for advance :( |
| 21:18.25 | miniBill | :( |
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| 21:19.35 | FloridaGuy | ln -s /home/mike/wallpaper /usr/share/wallpapers.....worked |
| 21:20.16 | PasNox | FloridaGuy: sure it worked, but it's not to do ( because u modifiy system installation |
| 21:20.24 | PasNox | ) |
| 21:21.44 | icewind_ | FloridaGuy: maybe you can fill a wish on bugs.kde.org for making that patch configurable |
| 21:22.12 | icewind_ | it shouldn't be to difficult to implement for someone who knows the code imho |
| 21:22.40 | FloridaGuy | if i could build packages and patchs i would |
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| 21:27.49 | FloridaGuy | guess it dont work.....now i cant change wallpapers |
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| 21:33.34 | FloridaGuy | had to change layout...to folder view..then was able to change wallpaper...then went back to desktop and works |
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| 21:37.23 | MrSmith | Everytime I start kde, kopete, konversation, kmail the kresource migration tool starts although there is nothing to do. How can I turn it off? |
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| 21:40.07 | MrSmith | second problem: I try to build http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Titlebar+menu?content=138804&PHPSESSID=fde04c49f7fdc1c80f09183d96a69d92 but I always get the error " |
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| 21:40.09 | MrSmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.25 | MrSmith | " What can I do? |
| 21:44.58 | icewind_ | MrSmith: do you have the correct *-dev packages installed? |
| 21:45.52 | MrSmith | I have qjson https://www.archlinux.de/?page=PackageDetails;repo=extra;arch=i686;pkgname=qjson installed |
| 21:46.20 | icewind_ | on most distro's you also need dev package if you want to compile something against it |
| 21:46.23 | icewind_ | not sure about arch though |
| 21:47.54 | MrSmith | Arch hasn't dev packages |
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| 21:50.07 | icewind_ | I tested and it gives the same error here (gentoo) maybe it's a problem with the cmake file |
| 21:50.47 | ahiemstra | MrSmith: please check the CMakeLists.txt for a line like include(KDE4Defaults) or so |
| 21:51.23 | ahiemstra | either that, or a line set(CMAKE_MODULE_PATH $something) |
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| 21:55.23 | icewind_ | ahiemstra: it has include (KDE4Defaults) |
| 21:56.17 | ahiemstra | icewind_: is that before or after a call to find_package(QJSON) ? |
| 21:56.27 | icewind_ | before |
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| 21:57.38 | ahiemstra | ok, that's odd then |
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| 22:00.53 | ahiemstra | MrSmith: found it |
| 22:01.14 | ahiemstra | replace QJson in CMakeLists.txt with QJSON |
| 22:01.25 | ahiemstra | for the call to find_package |
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| 22:01.46 | MrSmith | k thx |
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| 23:59.58 | freinhard | hi! |