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| 00:06.12 | manuel_ | hi, are there any timelines for a working nvidia driver >256? |
| 00:07.02 | Sho_ | manuel_: wrong channel |
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| 00:07.28 | manuel_ | no, its only affecting kde |
| 00:07.41 | manuel_ | plasma |
| 00:08.49 | anish | manuel_: is this about the logout crash ? |
| 00:08.56 | manuel_ | no, login. |
| 00:09.08 | manuel_ | as soon kde loads, plasma crashes |
| 00:09.31 | manuel_ | don't notice problems in other de's |
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| 00:09.43 | Sho_ | has no such problem with the 260 drivers |
| 00:09.48 | anish | manuel_: file a bug. this for example got resolved fairly quickly https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264076 |
| 00:10.04 | manuel_ | plasma-desktop and plasma-netbook both affected |
| 00:11.21 | manuel_ | Sho_: i had trouble with 260 on another machine with new install and clean user, now also with the 270beta on my machine with a 6800 |
| 00:11.37 | Sho_ | 9600GT here |
| 00:11.39 | manuel_ | the 260 was an ion laptop |
| 00:11.55 | manuel_ | both with the same problem on pretty different machines |
| 00:11.56 | Sho_ | 269.19.26, to be specific |
| 00:12.01 | Sho_ | err |
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| 00:12.11 | Sho_ | 260.19.36, rather |
| 00:12.24 | Sho_ | (damn laptop keyboard with its tiny keys :-) |
| 00:12.30 | manuel_ | the 256 works on both normally, but i have trouble with fullscreen flash flickers on 256 |
| 00:12.33 | manuel_ | ;) |
| 00:12.56 | manuel_ | and i tried 270 with twm and firefox, that works |
| 00:13.21 | manuel_ | just to combine the two does not |
| 00:13.37 | manuel_ | and i cant work without kde ;= |
| 00:14.48 | thewanderer1 | NVIDIA bugs, use stable versions :P |
| 00:15.13 | manuel_ | thewanderer1: as i sad, 260 stable same problem |
| 00:15.28 | Sho_ | manuel_: what qt version do you have? |
| 00:15.39 | manuel_ | uhm, quick way to find it? |
| 00:16.00 | thewanderer1 | pro tip: if it's labeled "stable" it does not mean it's stable actually :) |
| 00:16.16 | Sho_ | manuel_: kde4-config --version |
| 00:16.34 | thewanderer1 | guess why 260 is not in Debian yet :P |
| 00:16.35 | Sho_ | (and yeah, that should work outside X) |
| 00:16.44 | manuel_ | manuel@workstation:~> kde4-config --version |
| 00:16.45 | manuel_ | Qt: 4.6.3 |
| 00:16.47 | manuel_ | KDE: 4.5.5 (KDE 4.5.5) "release 1" |
| 00:16.48 | manuel_ | kde4-config: 1.0 |
| 00:17.06 | anish | no 4.6 ? |
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| 00:17.19 | Sho_ | ah hm. if it you had 4.7.x we could have tried using the QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM env variable to switch to the raster graphics engine and cut much of the driver out of the equation |
| 00:17.26 | manuel_ | thewanderer1: 256 works for all normal services, but flash fullscreen |
| 00:17.58 | thewanderer1 | well flash fullscreen has never worked for me, neither NVIDIA nor Intel, so I'm not surprised |
| 00:18.01 | manuel_ | well, i'm not afraid of updating, but i did not recently check the suse repos |
| 00:18.27 | manuel_ | thewanderer1: it worked before on the same setup...well, almost the same.. |
| 00:18.29 | Sho_ | manuel_: you have to admit that it's odd to ask for a timeline and not be running the latest versions of KDE and Qt .) |
| 00:18.49 | manuel_ | Sho_: i thought i have |
| 00:19.05 | Sho_ | nope, that'd be KDE 4.6.0 and Qt 4.7.1 atm |
| 00:19.06 | manuel_ | doing zypper up often |
| 00:19.22 | manuel_ | but maybe did not switch to new repos |
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| 00:20.07 | manuel_ | i'll have a peek |
| 00:20.51 | manuel_ | uhm, the opensuse site says in a quick translate: |
| 00:21.33 | manuel_ | 32bit systems with prop-nvidia and the 4.6 repos will have trouble caused by https://bugs.kde.org/251719 |
| 00:21.34 | Sho_ | manuel_: Try upgrading, and if the problem persists, and provided you did upgrade to Qt 4.7.x, put a foo.sh file in $KDEHOME/env/ (where $KDEHOME is $HOME/.kde or $HOME/.kde4 depending on distro, and make the env folder if necessary), chmod +x it and put 'export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=raster' in it, without the quotes - that switches Qt from using XRender to using its own rasterization routines, which often avoids driver bugs |
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| 00:22.16 | Sho_ | is on 64 bit |
| 00:22.41 | manuel_ | I'm not...maybe with suse 11.4 later the year |
| 00:22.54 | manuel_ | "caused by the clock widget" |
| 00:23.04 | manuel_ | halleluja |
| 00:23.11 | anish | damn clocks. *waves fist* |
| 00:23.33 | Sho_ | sigh nvidia and their driver bugs |
| 00:23.56 | manuel_ | well, i would get rid of it, but nouveau sucks even more |
| 00:24.16 | manuel_ | dual monitor setup and spontanious freezes |
| 00:24.38 | Sho_ | yeah, it's a frustrating situation |
| 00:25.04 | manuel_ | and i like 3d for minecraft at least ;) |
| 00:25.39 | Sho_ | I'd day nouveau's 3D is probably good enough for minecraft at this point :-) unless it's getting caught in some corner case |
| 00:25.43 | Sho_ | *say |
| 00:26.31 | manuel_ | maybe, but having complete system-freezes caused by the gui scares me |
| 00:27.06 | Sho_ | last year nvidia's drivers had a fun bug that caused the system to freeze up for 20-30 seconds every time Kickoff was opened |
| 00:27.09 | manuel_ | i also won't blame kde for this, but thought of a work around |
| 00:27.13 | Sho_ | that was a fun one, too |
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| 00:27.23 | Sho_ | luckily they fixed it after a month or so with an update .. |
| 00:27.39 | manuel_ | they're quite quick sme time ;) |
| 00:28.15 | Sho_ | yeah, unlike adobe, who has been unable for months now to fix a bug in flash that causes broken audio on 64bit because they can't read the C docs and used memcpy where they should have used memmove |
| 00:28.31 | manuel_ | lol |
| 00:28.51 | manuel_ | anyway, maybe i try 64bit some day, but now have leave for some live action...on flash ;) |
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| 00:34.08 | Lantizia | Lo, anyone know where I can find the latest info on running KDE/Plasma on the N900? |
| 00:34.48 | thewanderer1 | huh... you're suicidal? |
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| 00:36.11 | Sho_ | Lantizia: i think there are #kde-mobile and #kde-maemo channels .. |
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| 00:36.24 | Sho_ | Mek might also know |
| 00:36.37 | Lantizia | Sho_, yes to the former it seems but not the latter |
| 00:36.41 | Lantizia | thanks :) |
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| 01:52.59 | arkanabar | ah, KDE 4.5.5 |
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| 02:56.11 | arkanabar | I'm using PCLOS & kde 4.5.5. Is there a handy utility to record from the microphone, preferably push-to-talk? |
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| 05:51.48 | jmut | hi folks. In Run Command... I would like it not to prefill data from browser history. this is really frustrating. where do I configure this behaviour. thanks |
| 05:54.10 | Sho_ | jmut: Click the little wrench icon next to the field and disable the plugins you don't want |
| 05:54.40 | Sho_ | or gear icon, that is |
| 05:55.01 | Sho_ | depending on theme |
| 05:55.02 | sreich | wrench |
| 05:55.15 | sreich | ah, depending on theme |
| 05:55.23 | sreich | what is it on air? |
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| 06:13.08 | jmut | Sho_: nice. thanks |
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| 08:06.59 | linopolus | Hi |
| 08:07.04 | linopolus | I have a problem with konsole |
| 08:07.50 | linopolus | Sometimes I cannot rightclick into konsole. This happens mainly when I use tmux in an SSH session, but sometimes in only a plain shell, too. |
| 08:07.56 | linopolus | Can somebody help? |
| 08:08.13 | thiago_home | I've seen that |
| 08:08.19 | thiago_home | I haven't been able to identify what causes it |
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| 08:22.47 | Sho_ | it was fixed recently |
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| 08:23.39 | linopolus | Sho_: so it will be fixed in 4.6.1? |
| 08:24.57 | Sho_ | I'm not sure if it got backported, let me check |
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| 08:28.01 | Sho_ | linopolus: looks like that's a no, sorry |
| 08:28.46 | linopolus | so, 4.7? |
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| 08:29.32 | Sho_ | linopolus: yeah, unless it gets backported after all ... I'll ask khindenburg why it wasn't |
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| 08:48.57 | Sho_ | linopolus: actually, i got that wrong; it was backported and should be in 4.6.1 |
| 08:50.17 | linopolus | nice |
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| 08:58.54 | trebor_dki | hello. in former kde, i was using kdesktop_lock --forcelock& to lock the desktop. this does not work anymore in kde 4 (debian 6). what command do i have to use now? |
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| 09:06.17 | trebor_dki | xdg-screensaver lock does it, i hope (only blanks the screen) |
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| 10:51.27 | icarus-c | how do you call that thing that appears when you press alt-f2 |
| 10:51.30 | icarus-c | krunner? |
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| 10:53.16 | icarus-c | whatever. what i want to say is i have kwin with composition. normally krunner (a long with plasma & notification& kick off menu..etc) are all transparent. but if i suspend compostition and resume again, krunner will no longer be transparent |
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| 10:53.19 | icarus-c | is that a bug |
| 10:53.23 | Sho_ | icarus-c: yes, KRunner |
| 10:53.32 | Sho_ | icarus-c: yes, that sounds like a bug |
| 10:53.46 | icarus-c | on KDE 4.6 between |
| 10:53.55 | Sho_ | it's supposed to be watching for the composition manager to come back and switch back into translucent mode |
| 10:53.59 | icarus-c | so i guess i should report against kwin ? |
| 10:54.07 | Sho_ | no, KRunner |
| 10:54.13 | icarus-c | ah ok |
| 10:54.26 | icarus-c | Sho_: could you reproduce that? |
| 10:54.53 | Sho_ | icarus-c: I can't enable compositing right now, sorry |
| 10:55.13 | icarus-c | oh. so if i restart krunner, it should be back to translucent i guess. let me try |
| 10:55.28 | icarus-c | at least that explains why restarting kwin doesn't help |
| 10:56.17 | icarus-c | Sho_: oh wait i notice something. it is still translucent. but just not as transparent as normal |
| 10:56.38 | icarus-c | my english is not good enough to express precisely i'm afraid |
| 10:57.04 | Sho_ | if it's broken rendering it could be either KRunner or KWin. might be worth showing a screenshot in #kwin and asking for input; watch out for mgraesslin to come online (kwin dev) |
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| 10:57.45 | icarus-c | another thing i wanna ask. is there a command to proper launch non KDE/qt app ? |
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| 10:58.30 | icarus-c | coz say if i run xchat by command, it will use the default gtk theme, not the one i set in kde settings. |
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| 10:58.41 | icarus-c | but if i run the .desktop thing, it obey KDE |
| 10:59.08 | icarus-c | same for clicking to run a gtk app in dolphin VS running it it terminal with "./blah" |
| 11:00.01 | Sho_ | Sounds like for some reason the enviornment variables are different in the different cases, i.e. GTK_RC_FILES isn't filled with the path to the GTK config file written out by the GTK theme settings module in System Settings |
| 11:00.49 | Sho_ | that environment variable is set during KDE login and should be generally set in the session, but perhaps your shell setup alters the environment to drop it in some way |
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| 11:02.18 | icarus-c | Sho_: maybe it is because KDE settings write gtk config to .config/gtk-kde4/gtk-kde4.conf instead of the standard .config/gtk-2.0/ folder? |
| 11:02.45 | Sho_ | as mentioned KDE sets the GTK2_RC_FILES environment variable to point to the file it writes |
| 11:03.25 | Sho_ | by way of the startkde script that starts a KDE session sourcing a .sh file created in ~/.kde/env/, usually |
| 11:03.37 | icarus-c | ah i see |
| 11:03.45 | Sho_ | that would normally also apply to any non-login shells in a terminal emulator started in the X session, then |
| 11:04.18 | icarus-c | i think i could workaround it then |
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| 11:18.33 | codicenero | hi all |
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| 11:19.55 | codicenero | i'm living an annoyng problem with my kde 4.5.1 |
| 11:20.38 | codicenero | i don't know if it's a kde problem or maybe an X problem.. |
| 11:21.01 | codicenero | if i try to launch a program i have this error: |
| 11:21.02 | codicenero | Maximum number of clients reachedxset: unable to open display ":0" |
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| 11:21.47 | codicenero | i'm asking here because i noticed lots of plasma-desktop (about 40-50) from xlsclients output |
| 11:22.05 | codicenero | hope someone can help me.. |
| 11:22.46 | codicenero | thnaks in advance!! :) |
| 11:24.03 | codicenero | i'm sorry, if this is a distro related problem, just tell me.. |
| 11:24.45 | icarus-c | [nelson@hermes ~]$ xlsclients |grep plasma-desktop|wc -l |
| 11:24.46 | icarus-c | 117 |
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| 11:25.07 | codicenero | so it's normal?? |
| 11:26.54 | codicenero | i read somewhere that X has limit to 255 clients |
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| 12:34.50 | annma | it's merged withkdevelop |
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| 14:14.08 | Burps | Hi : I'm new to KDE4, and I'm wondering : how can I edit remote files with Kdevelop, through ssh ? |
| 14:15.51 | cb400f | same as with any other app I guess.. use sftp:/ kio slave in dolphin, open the files with kdevelop and edit away |
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| 14:46.59 | teh_al3x | hey guys, i've got a little problem here: i made hits ( http://bit.ly/fVUoOE ) desktop-file and it doens't work... says everytime "Type=..." is not given, but it is :( idk what to do :/ |
| 14:47.44 | pinotree | who says that? |
| 14:48.11 | teh_al3x | KDE |
| 14:48.37 | teh_al3x | or better: the plasma-thing-workspace |
| 14:48.44 | pinotree | "[Desktop entry]" → "[Desktop Entry]" |
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| 14:49.07 | teh_al3x | but i specified that it should show me the dirview of the desktop, not the plasma-thing |
| 14:49.17 | teh_al3x | aha! |
| 14:49.43 | teh_al3x | wow it really works =_= |
| 14:49.47 | pinotree | note: you can use the desktop-file-validate (part of xdg's desktop-file-utils) to validate application's .desktop files |
| 14:49.49 | teh_al3x | sry for beeing so dumb! |
| 14:50.02 | teh_al3x | ok thx! |
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| 14:56.47 | vinnie_ | my current keyboard doesnt have a mute button. Can I assign mute to a key on my keyboard? |
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| 14:58.03 | Klanticus | vinnie_: I think you can use a global shortcut for that |
| 14:59.24 | Klanticus | vinnie_: System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts |
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| 15:02.52 | JackWinter | should i be worried about these and similar console msgs: kate(19919) KDesktopFile::isAuthorizedDesktopFile: Access to ' "/home/jack/rekonq.desktop" ' denied, not owned by root, executable flag not set. and kate(19919)/kdeui (kdelibs) KXMLGUIClient::~KXMLGUIClient: 0x2601a28 deleted without having been removed from the factory first. This will leak standalone popupmenus and could lead to crashes. |
| 15:04.20 | JackWinter | 2010 rekonq.desktop is 644 and i didn't try to run kate as root |
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| 15:05.40 | Malar | how do i disable recent app&files history in kickoff launcher? |
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| 16:04.23 | vinnie_ | Klanticus: which one do I choose? http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6522/snapshot19.png |
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| 16:09.02 | cb400f | vinnie_: I think the easiest way to create a mute shortcut is this.. click on KMix in systray -> click "mixer" -> click "settings" -> configure shortcuts |
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| 16:12.59 | icewind_ | vinnie_: system settings->shortcut and gestures->global keyboard shortcuts->kmix->mute |
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| 16:14.45 | P4C0 | Hello, I have kmail 1.13.6 and it goes terrible slow with gmail... is there something I can do about it? |
| 16:15.21 | cb400f | contribute to kmail2 :-) |
| 16:15.42 | cb400f | or use a less weird imap provider |
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| 16:15.46 | serenity | hi |
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| 16:16.35 | serenity | is there a way to configure the steps/interval of volume changing? Or does it depend on the used driver? |
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| 16:28.28 | qqqqqqqqq9 | Hi, how do i umount a webdav-folder that i mounted with the webdav-kioslave? |
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| 16:47.12 | vinnie_ | cb400f, icewind_: ty |
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| 17:22.40 | Murray_B | Hi! I didn't find it, will kdepim use akonadi in kde 4.6.1 yet? Or do we have to wait until 4.6.2? |
| 17:22.49 | boombatower | my plasma-desktop process is maxing out one of my cores...someone mentioned that I should attempt to interupt process and see what it is doing...anyone around that can give me some points..I'm not a C++ guy |
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| 17:23.07 | boombatower | pointers* |
| 17:25.28 | annma | Murray_B: kdepim 4.6 has not been released |
| 17:26.28 | Murray_B | annma: Yes, I know, they told that it will be released in a minor update with akonadi support. And I wonder if it is in 4.6.1 |
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| 17:27.14 | annma | I have no idea, I did not hear such buzz |
| 17:28.10 | Murray_B | I am waiting for kdepim with akonadi support since kde 4.1... |
| 17:28.26 | ilu-babe | they said when kde 4.6 was released, (and they said that too when 4.5 was released :( ) |
| 17:28.26 | annma | boombatower: is it default destop? or did you install applets? |
| 17:28.34 | ilu-babe | me too Murray_B |
| 17:28.46 | boombatower | annma: should be default...installed while a while back, but got rid of it |
| 17:28.59 | boombatower | annma: this happens at random second time in a month |
| 17:29.26 | annma | hmm sounds weird |
| 17:29.40 | annma | it's probably an applet |
| 17:29.55 | boombatower | annma: any idea how I can debug this |
| 17:30.17 | boombatower | i'm a php dev, done some c++...and I know a fair amount of linux...just never donet his sort of thing |
| 17:30.33 | annma | boombatower: how do you see it? |
| 17:30.58 | boombatower | annma: top and system monitor show it as using one core completely |
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| 17:31.13 | Murray_B | ilu-babe: There were voices saying at the 4.1 release it will last until kde 4.5 until kde4 is really ready. And now there is kde 4.6.0 and one of the main components of kde still doesn't use the new libraries :-( |
| 17:31.39 | ilu-babe | it'll come |
| 17:32.03 | ilu-babe | crosses fingers for 4.6.1 |
| 17:32.18 | annma | what process? |
| 17:32.29 | boombatower | annma: plasma-desktop |
| 17:32.59 | boombatower | not sure if your asking more...hear random dings from irc...i get the feeling they are delayed due to maxing of process, heh |
| 17:33.47 | annma | boombatower: what applets do yo uhave on your desktop? |
| 17:33.58 | annma | maxing of process? |
| 17:34.05 | boombatower | 100% cpu.. |
| 17:34.19 | boombatower | um, just notes...and I guess gmail notifier |
| 17:34.32 | annma | remove them one by one |
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| 17:34.55 | boombatower | annma: the plasma area is unresponsive to klicks...both panel and desktop |
| 17:34.56 | annma | start with gmail notifier |
| 17:35.04 | boombatower | clicks* |
| 17:35.25 | boombatower | window management and alt+tab is getting me by |
| 17:35.28 | annma | what distro and what kde version? |
| 17:35.34 | boombatower | suse 11.3 kde 4.6 |
| 17:36.12 | boombatower | last time it was the kde deamon itself...not sure if that would be seperate issue |
| 17:36.25 | boombatower | but seems to happen once every couple of weeks |
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| 17:37.02 | boombatower | that had different symtoms and is probably unrelated...this plasma hanging has happned twice |
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| 17:43.22 | boombatower | poor cpu |
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| 17:43.44 | boombatower | although with 4 cores, machine is still quite responsive |
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| 18:03.51 | boombatower | guess i'll just reboot then to fix plasma-desktop process |
| 18:03.56 | boombatower | :( |
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| 18:06.33 | boombatower | much better |
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| 19:17.12 | timshel | hi |
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| 19:18.53 | timshel | Is mysqld really needed by Akonadi? Can't it use sqllite or similar? Mysqld consumes over 110 MB all the time which atm isn't used at all. And it is waking up the cpu in powertop. |
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| 19:19.38 | cb400f | timshel: it's not.. and it's not used by default.. default is mysql embedded.. which shouldn't require the server |
| 19:20.06 | cb400f | a full-blown mysql is only available as an option.. for special cases |
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| 19:20.24 | timshel | cb400f: it seems to be the default in openSUSE |
| 19:20.39 | cb400f | timshel: oops.. sorry.. I read "amarok".. not "akonadi".. stupid me |
| 19:20.55 | timshel | np :) |
| 19:20.56 | cb400f | akonadi does need mysqld |
| 19:21.06 | timshel | Is it that much faster or why? |
| 19:21.12 | cb400f | think there's some experimental sqlite and postgresql support |
| 19:21.38 | cb400f | not sure why exactly... afaik it's also considered moving to virtuoso at some point |
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| 19:22.30 | timshel | haha, Amarok is consuming 1071% according to system monitor |
| 19:22.31 | timshel | funny bug |
| 19:22.40 | timshel | +cpu |
| 19:24.13 | timshel | In KDE 4.6 if you see the logout dialog the screen gets blurry. It works fine on my Intel card but looks weird with an Ati. This would be most likely a driver and not a kwin bug? |
| 19:24.46 | cb400f | yeah.. prolly just disable the logout kwin effect and be happy |
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| 19:25.01 | cb400f | loves simple "fixes" |
| 19:25.04 | Nece228 | hi |
| 19:25.11 | Nece228 | where is web git? |
| 19:25.20 | Nece228 | seeing that websvn is dead with trunk |
| 19:25.34 | timshel | I thought so. Bullet proof OpenGL implementation of free drivers will probably take some time. |
| 19:26.13 | cb400f | it's not like the blobs are doing too good either ;-) |
| 19:26.27 | cb400f | and as you mentioned.. it works with intel, which is also freeee |
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| 19:27.15 | timshel | cb400f: Intel has other problems and also the biggest man power I suppose. :) |
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| 19:27.50 | cb400f | yup :-| |
| 19:28.11 | apparle | Guys, when I search for Troy, and I have the file Troy.avi indexed in nepomuk, it is not showing up. But if I search for Troy.avi it shows up. Why is it so |
| 19:29.20 | cb400f | try: troy* |
| 19:29.40 | cb400f | iirc search in dolphin is not "auto-truncated" |
| 19:29.44 | timshel | Ah, one other issue. Many sys tray icons are not transparent and don't even have a similar background color. Is it possible to circumvent this? |
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| 19:30.06 | cb400f | don't use weird gtk apps with systray? ;-) |
| 19:30.16 | cb400f | or check your plasma theme |
| 19:30.39 | apparle | cb400f: but isn't desktop search supposed to take care of that? |
| 19:30.40 | timshel | Thunderbird is a must have and Java apps have a similar problem. :) |
| 19:30.49 | apparle | cb400f: also will troy* locate <something>troy.avi |
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| 19:31.17 | cb400f | prolly not.. that would be *troy* |
| 19:32.03 | cb400f | apparle: are you doing "filename" or "content" search? |
| 19:32.21 | cb400f | but either way.. I still think you need to truncate and add wildcards manually :-/ |
| 19:32.25 | apparle | cb400f: filename |
| 19:32.37 | apparle | cb400f: actually I am just using krunner |
| 19:32.41 | cb400f | don't think filename search is using nepomuk |
| 19:32.45 | cb400f | but not sure |
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| 19:34.18 | apparle | cb400f: what would be the wildcard, for <anything of any size or nothing>. * is for <anything of any size> right? |
| 19:34.41 | cb400f | right.. I think '?' is used as wildcard for single characters only |
| 19:34.57 | cb400f | e.g.: tr?y.avi |
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| 19:37.11 | apparle | cb400f: no. the problem is *troy* doesn't locate troy.avi because there is nothing before troy. so how to location any filename which contains troy |
| 19:37.45 | cb400f | weird '*' should include "nothing" I think |
| 19:37.47 | einar77 | apparle: IIRC * is "0 or more characters" |
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| 19:38.17 | cb400f | works for me in dolphin (ctrl+f) |
| 19:38.23 | einar77 | for me too |
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| 19:38.38 | cb400f | *altan* finds altan1.jpg |
| 19:39.18 | apparle | not working here. I'm on kde 4.5 |
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| 19:39.40 | einar77 | apparle: likely been fixed in 4.6 |
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| 19:40.26 | cb400f | I'm on 4.6 at least |
| 19:40.34 | apparle | here, when the search string begins with * it returns nothing |
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| 19:42.14 | apparle | also why is it that virtuoso-t process eats up approx 50% CPU even when file indexer is idle |
| 19:42.56 | Verge | Well that shouldn't happen until KDE 4.6! |
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| 19:43.21 | Verge | The most probable reason is that you it would eat 100 % but isn't multi-threaded |
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| 20:54.23 | thiago_home | because they were meant to be done via SMS |
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| 21:32.17 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.6 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 22:02.19 | feindbild | hi ^^ kde-4.6 uses upower for suspend, right? is there any way to change that? |
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| 22:06.25 | thiago_home | feindbild: what would you have KDE use instead? |
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| 22:08.17 | feindbild | thiago_home: my trusty old shell script |
| 22:09.16 | thiago_home | you may have to change the source code for solid |
| 22:09.23 | feindbild | thiago_home: cause I can't seem to find anything at all regarding upower configuration, neither can google .. |
| 22:11.39 | CaptainSifff | You can edit the power profiles in powerdevil |
| 22:11.49 | CaptainSifff | there you can specify scripts |
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| 22:12.59 | feindbild | thiago_home: you mean in kcm? Power Profiles? |
| 22:13.07 | feindbild | gaah ... not kcm .. the new name |
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| 22:14.06 | thiago_home | I meant solid, the library |
| 22:14.24 | feindbild | thiago_home: cause I can only see an input for running scripts when loading the profile O_o |
| 22:14.37 | thiago_home | didn't say anything about scripts |
| 22:14.42 | thiago_home | I said modify the library |
| 22:14.50 | feindbild | oops, sorry |
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| 22:17.04 | feindbild | ok, sorry for asking in here, but since nobody has any clue about upower and I can't find any usable documentation, what exactly does it do? call some other 'backend' to perform the suspend or do everything itself? |
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| 22:20.16 | feindbild | I mean someone must have thought of fancy stuff like unmounting network filesystems so you don't come back with hanging nfs shares that lock everything up, or dropping caches before suspend ... |
| 22:20.39 | CaptainSifff | As far as I know you can only query upower for the battery level... |
| 22:20.47 | CaptainSifff | But that was last August. |
| 22:21.02 | CaptainSifff | I think KDE still uses pm-utils |
| 22:21.09 | CaptainSifff | to do the suspend |
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| 22:22.31 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: hmm, from what I gathered kde does a dbus call to upower for the suspend :/ |
| 22:22.31 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: are you sure? cause I don't even have pm-utils installed |
| 22:22.36 | feindbild | oh, wait, I do |
| 22:22.38 | feindbild | ^^ |
| 22:23.04 | CaptainSifff | I *think* that dbus call goes to pm-utils |
| 22:23.26 | CaptainSifff | but probably that's depending on who's listening for a call. |
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| 22:25.12 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: thanks, back to reading docs ^^ |
| 22:25.27 | feindbild | stuff gets more complicated on linux every day :P |
| 22:26.07 | CaptainSifff | OH YES.... |
| 22:26.14 | CaptainSifff | stuff for reading: |
| 22:26.19 | CaptainSifff | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pm-utils#How_it_Works |
| 22:31.13 | feindbild | crap, now I have to edit pm-action and restore it on package upgrades. I really wonder what was so terrible about that one-line acpi action :P |
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| 23:03.06 | Phoenixz | Is there anything known about kmix being.. really weird? I have most of my daily issues with this little bugger.. On multiple monitors, every now and then, changing volume will frack up screen configuration (usually one of the two will go black, I have to reconfigure).. kmix on 0-30% gives no sound.. after 30% it is on 80% actually, and 30%-100% is for the rest of the 20%.. in a few words, I have the choice between no sound, or loud.. sometimes one tap |
| 23:03.08 | Phoenixz | on the volume+ button makes it go from 0% to 100% at once.. Somehow its a heavy thing.. volume+ makes HD work for some 5 seconds before kmix shows, while other programs work normally.. I could go on for a while.. |
| 23:03.32 | Phoenixz | So can anybody tell me.. is this normal behaviour? And also, are there alternatives to kmix? |
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| 23:06.19 | junkDawgie | not normal from my experiences, Phoenixz.... have you tried altering alsa volumes from cli? does it do the same? |
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| 23:08.00 | junkDawgie | Phoenixz: it may also be relevent if pulseaudio is installed and being used. |
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| 23:26.07 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: Pulseaudio seems installed.. How can / may this influence kmix? |
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| 23:27.09 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: alsamixer on CLI shows to be in 0% while kmix shows something 30%.. that would explain somehting, while not making any sense at all.. |
| 23:27.51 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: also, I can modify alsamixer fine grained (I like!), but kmix uses steps of 15% or something |
| 23:28.20 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: oh, and to top it off, on various occasions, when sound is on 0% (in kmix), lowering the volume will kick it to 80% again.. |
| 23:28.26 | Phoenixz | dear god.. |
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| 23:32.04 | junkDawgie | Phoenixz: sorry was called away, just for my own curiosity, is this audio hardware Creative? |
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| 23:37.38 | junkDawgie | if pulseaudio is installed, do you have pavucontrol? the pulse volume control app? if so, does it scale smoothly? |
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| 23:45.34 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: Dell D620 laptop, AFAIK, audio is Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) |
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| 23:46.01 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: no, I dont have it installed, will do so now to check |
| 23:48.01 | Phoenixz | junkDawgie: seems to be scaling quite right |
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| 23:54.21 | howlymowly | hi poeple... i got the folowing error message: kopete(3020)/kio (KDirWatch) KDirWatchPrivate::removeEntry: doesn't know "/home/myusername/.kde/share/apps/kabc" |
| 23:54.25 | howlymowly | any idea? |
| 23:55.14 | howlymowly | I did not install any any updates or else.. it just started 5 mins ago without doing anything.. i already tried estarting, deleting the kopete folders in .kde/share/apps.. but nothing helped |
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| 23:57.18 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: lol, thanks, got everything I working, including the kitchen sink ^^ http://pastebin.com/YMHJH2T7 |
| 23:58.23 | CaptainSifff | You copied that script to one of the folders of pm-utils? |
| 23:58.30 | CaptainSifff | and it worked?? |
| 23:58.36 | CaptainSifff | Cool... |
| 23:59.03 | howlymowly | ahh and in my system activities the "kded4" process is listed as a zombie.. this might be related? |
| 23:59.04 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: first I wrote it ^^ |
| 23:59.04 | CaptainSifff | Have you considered reporting that thing with amarok to some amarok guy? |
| 23:59.14 | CaptainSifff | Really cool! |
| 23:59.18 | feindbild | CaptainSifff: :o) |
