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| 04:25.49 | doda | hi all |
| 04:26.56 | doda | i have a wierd kdm bug, whenn trying to shutdown/reboot it just logs me out, then kdm freezes for a while (the user dialog is blank) and then it restarts kdm so i can login |
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| 06:23.17 | Verge | You know |
| 06:23.25 | Verge | There's a quite annoying bug in Dolphin of KDE 4.6.1 |
| 06:23.58 | Verge | 'dolphin $HOME' opens up my home directory but doesn't show any files |
| 06:24.13 | Verge | If I hit refresh, then it displays them |
| 06:24.21 | Verge | And this doesn't seem to occur with any other directory |
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| 06:38.07 | ak | hello people |
| 06:38.12 | Verge | Hello you |
| 06:38.19 | ak | I am in really stupid situation here |
| 06:38.24 | ak | have 4.6.1 running here |
| 06:38.38 | ak | so in systray I somehow chose kmix |
| 06:38.49 | ak | and then disabled the menu of the kmix |
| 06:38.53 | ak | now I can't get it back |
| 06:38.55 | ak | :( |
| 06:38.59 | Verge | Ctrl + M |
| 06:39.14 | ak | lets try :) |
| 06:39.26 | ak | fuck !!!!!!! it worked |
| 06:39.32 | ak | thank you very very much :) |
| 06:39.33 | Verge | It also has option 'Show menu' when you right click the window |
| 06:39.40 | Sho_ | Verge: I can reproduce that @ dolphin |
| 06:39.41 | Verge | menubar* |
| 06:39.41 | ak | no it doesn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 06:39.47 | ak | doesn't ! |
| 06:39.58 | Verge | Not if you click the toolbar |
| 06:40.10 | ak | Verge |
| 06:40.12 | ak | try it |
| 06:40.17 | ak | it doesn't have a right click :) |
| 06:40.25 | Verge | ak: Not in the toolbar, yes |
| 06:40.26 | ak | but anyway, u put a smile on my face :) |
| 06:40.28 | ak | thanks |
| 06:40.36 | ak | dude |
| 06:40.37 | ak | :) |
| 06:40.45 | ak | I clicked not only toolbar |
| 06:40.50 | ak | any area of window |
| 06:40.52 | ak | of kmix |
| 06:41.03 | ak | it doesn't have the right click listener :) |
| 06:41.05 | ak | I bet |
| 06:41.16 | EffBee_ | I love running Dolphin with the menubar hidden |
| 06:41.30 | ak | I love running konsole that way too |
| 06:41.37 | ak | but it is a mess if you hide it in kmix |
| 06:41.39 | EffBee_ | I use Yakuake, not Konsole |
| 06:41.43 | Verge | ak: http://univerge.no-ip.org/public/kmix-context-menu.jpeg |
| 06:42.06 | ak | I know it is 0.5% of use cases when users do that, but I just got trapped hiding the menubar in kmix |
| 06:42.14 | ak | in konsole, right click works ! |
| 06:42.17 | ak | not in kmix |
| 06:42.26 | ak | which made me think SKY IS FALLING |
| 06:42.28 | ak | :) |
| 06:42.38 | Verge | I don't like the menubar |
| 06:42.41 | ak | I was going to kde4/share/apps |
| 06:42.45 | Verge | I hide it everywhere possible |
| 06:42.49 | ak | I thought omg, find the setting there :) |
| 06:42.58 | ak | thanks to internet relay chat |
| 06:43.02 | ak | thanks Verge ! |
| 06:43.38 | ak | Verge |
| 06:43.45 | ak | I am gonna prove you are wrong :) |
| 06:43.49 | ak | if you follow me |
| 06:44.08 | ak | you gonna feel insecure as me, like I felt a couple of mins ago |
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| 06:47.29 | ak | so now I see why my kmix made me suffer |
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| 06:47.48 | ak | I closed the profile ( the very tab ) that has sliders associated with my sound device |
| 06:47.54 | ak | can't get it back |
| 06:48.10 | Verge | Just add a new tab |
| 06:48.10 | ak | Verge if you close your C-media tab |
| 06:48.14 | ak | how ? |
| 06:48.26 | ak | I went over menu options, can't see any |
| 06:48.37 | ak | after I closed what I had for intel |
| 06:49.03 | ak | what a mess |
| 06:49.05 | Verge | I see |
| 06:49.17 | Verge | I thought that one was fixed already |
| 06:49.43 | ak | you can't get it back, right ? |
| 06:49.47 | Verge | no |
| 06:49.56 | ak | so you can get it right ? |
| 06:50.17 | ak | your 'no' is a little ambiguous |
| 06:50.20 | ak | sorry for that |
| 06:50.23 | Verge | rm ~/.kde4/share/config/kmix* |
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| 06:50.42 | ak | I thought so :) |
| 06:51.10 | ak | the sky is falling |
| 06:51.29 | ak | kde is great. but can give you a feeling how insecure you are :) |
| 06:52.07 | ak | it should have a disclaimer, saying that if you are not balanced or have some psycho-illness don't use it |
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| 06:53.35 | ak | ha ha |
| 06:53.49 | ak | even if you delete the kmix profile you won't get back your tabs |
| 06:53.58 | ak | nice |
| 06:55.06 | Verge | Remove the config files |
| 06:55.09 | ak | thanks god alsamixer doesn't do that to users :) |
| 06:55.13 | ak | removed |
| 06:55.19 | ak | quit kmix |
| 06:55.19 | Verge | But you need to close Kmix before doing that |
| 06:55.27 | Verge | Because the configs are saved upon closing |
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| 06:56.56 | ak | I just did it. Quit kmix. made sure it is not running. Removed the folder. Launched it...and still, no tabs, no settings :) |
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| 06:57.36 | ak | so I assume it is not the kmix folder in config folder |
| 06:57.37 | Verge | And what did you remove? |
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| 06:57.54 | Verge | There are no folders in config |
| 06:57.59 | ak | ~/.kde4/share/apps $ rm kmix -r |
| 06:58.17 | ak | that is what I did. The current folder is share/apps |
| 06:58.21 | ak | then rm -r kmix |
| 06:58.29 | Verge | No, it's share/config |
| 06:58.36 | ak | ops |
| 06:58.53 | ak | then what ? |
| 06:59.18 | Verge | Remove configs |
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| 06:59.52 | Yuking | ak: rm -f ~/.kde/share/config/kmix* |
| 06:59.58 | Verge | ye |
| 07:00.43 | Yuking | ak: make sure kmix is not running before doing it |
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| 07:02.19 | ak | :) |
| 07:02.31 | ak | Verge, I was in the wrong folder yep |
| 07:02.49 | ak | deleted, launched the thing, got my tabs back |
| 07:02.50 | ak | :) |
| 07:03.38 | ak | was going nuts with this :) |
| 07:03.48 | ak | btw, lsof | grep kmix |
| 07:03.52 | ak | didn't show that file |
| 07:03.53 | ak | wtf ? |
| 07:04.17 | ak | it probably doesn't open the handle to the settings file until it decides to quit. |
| 07:04.30 | ak | and it closes the settings file just after it loads... |
| 07:04.36 | Verge | yes |
| 07:04.46 | ak | don't have time to investigate it looking at source :) |
| 07:05.09 | ak | btw, Verge |
| 07:05.22 | Verge | KDE apps follow the same logic: configuration file in share/config and app's data into share/apps |
| 07:05.43 | ak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogMNV33AhCY |
| 07:05.47 | ak | what you think about this |
| 07:05.49 | ak | :) |
| 07:05.55 | ak | I raped the replay button |
| 07:06.33 | Verge | Not into d'n'b myself |
| 07:06.52 | ak | I was not as well.... |
| 07:06.58 | ak | the whole thing with the kmix started when my gf said she can't hear me & had to adjust mic |
| 07:07.02 | ak | deleted the tab |
| 07:07.09 | ak | & was doomed afterwards |
| 07:07.12 | ak | :) |
| 07:07.34 | ak | ok, irc...viva humanbeing...viva people :) |
| 07:07.39 | ak | viva communications |
| 07:07.45 | ak | viva progress |
| 07:07.55 | ak | capitalism sucks though |
| 07:08.09 | ak | ok thanks, I get my coat |
| 07:08.12 | ak | bye |
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| 07:29.01 | fugdnscerd | using kde 4.4.5 with nvidia GeForce2 MX/MX 400 unable to use opengl compositing |
| 07:29.25 | fugdnscerd | using non-free nvidia drivers |
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| 07:43.22 | szal | fugdnscerd: GF2 isn't supported any longer by the proprietary driver |
| 07:44.44 | fugdnscerd | not at all or not fully? i am using legacy-96xx drivers and direct rendering and glxgears run fine |
| 07:45.50 | fugdnscerd | or do i have to run the most recent drivers(which do not support the card) in order to enable opengl? |
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| 07:46.55 | szal | get a used GF7, that'll buy you another year or 2 until you have to buy new hardware for proper driver support |
| 07:47.10 | szal | 7600 are dirt-cheap |
| 07:47.37 | szal | perhaps even available new |
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| 07:48.33 | fugdnscerd | i see.. i dont have enough need to purchase another card right now.. just would like to use some effects that xrender doesnt seem to support... are there any other software rendering options that may support these? |
| 07:49.30 | szal | last month I tried a PCLinuxOS live DVD (including the proprietary nVidia driver) on a machine w/ a GF2, and I couldn't enable compositing either |
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| 08:01.44 | fugdnscerd | whats the kde communities take on kwin vs. compiz at this point |
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| 08:03.00 | Sho_ | fugdnscerd: Most by considerable margin use kwin, a few use compiz for this or that plugin |
| 08:03.57 | fugdnscerd | are there any advantages to using compiz over kwin or just the few plugins u mentioned |
| 08:04.39 | fugdnscerd | i have an older gf2 card in wich opengl support is not available, would compiz even work with that? |
| 08:05.14 | Sho_ | fugdnscerd: I can't think of any ... I suppose depending on the exact hardware and driver at times kwin is faster and other times compiz is faster, but in general it's mostly the same these days |
| 08:05.28 | fugdnscerd | ok thank you |
| 08:05.46 | Verge | Kwin and Compiz have very different feel |
| 08:05.49 | fugdnscerd | guess i need to just deal with my ancient hardware or upgrade :_) |
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| 08:05.55 | Sho_ | fugdnscerd: Originally the answer would have been "no" as compiz was always OpenGL-only, but I think I heard that very recently they also added a 2D codepath |
| 08:05.57 | Sho_ | not sure though |
| 08:06.11 | fugdnscerd | k thanks |
| 08:08.03 | fugdnscerd | since i dont have opengl support for my card, are there alternative software based solutions that may enable me to take advantage of some of the desktop effects in kwin? |
| 08:08.14 | fugdnscerd | besides xrender i mean |
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| 08:09.18 | Sho_ | nope, it's either XRender or OpenGL |
| 08:09.28 | mgraesslin | XRender is "software" :-) |
| 08:09.50 | Sho_ | wonders how well kwin's OpenGL mode works with llvmpipe |
| 08:10.07 | mgraesslin | it's like with old SWRaster - doesn't work |
| 08:10.39 | fugdnscerd | i know XRender is software, but it seems to not support some of the effects i would like to use. As i said before, I guess I just need to deal with my ancient hardware or upgrade.... thanks alot guys |
| 08:11.01 | ikrabbe | morning, how can I start a command in kde environment from an external shell |
| 08:11.06 | mgraesslin | well of course XRender does not support some more advanced effects |
| 08:11.29 | Sho_ | fugdnscerd: Some of the effects just aren't really economical with XRender as the XRender API doesn't allow tapping into the computational power of the graphics processor to the same degree as the OpenGL API does |
| 08:11.32 | ikrabbe | what I want to do actually is simply to echo env > $HOME/kde_env |
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| 08:28.02 | ikrabbe | but I have to type this interactively |
| 08:28.55 | ikrabbe | is there some noninteractive (scriptable, batch oriented) solution? |
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| 08:44.07 | sterna | hi, where can i find out what's going on in a kioslave? |
| 08:44.15 | sterna | my bluetooth browsing ceased to work |
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| 08:47.14 | ikrabbe | ok, found it |
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| 10:05.58 | bajk-tragbar | is the network manager still f**ked up in kde? |
| 10:06.24 | shadghost | i think that is linux in genral |
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| 10:09.01 | bajk-tragbar | shadghost: wrong. but Networkmanager is the worst piece of software I ever met |
| 10:09.38 | bajk-tragbar | I mean: XP : Network connections -> LAN connection -> Disable -> Done. Linux: well.. plug out the cable, otherwise it will force you to go on using the LAN -.- |
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| 10:53.15 | PasNox | Hell |
| 10:53.46 | PasNox | since kde 4.6.x plasma desktop is taking very many memory and make the desktop slow on virtual desktop change |
| 10:53.59 | thiago | cannot reproduce |
| 10:54.02 | PasNox | it consume 100MB for me, what is the average memory used for plasma ? |
| 10:55.04 | PasNox | i have notified too that when i use teh shortcut alt + ta for changing the app - plasma freeze long long time, i have to ctrl + alt + f1 and then ctr+alt+f7 to get it unfreeze |
| 10:55.06 | PasNox | :/ |
| 10:55.15 | PasNox | alt + tab* |
| 10:55.27 | PasNox | any hint ? |
| 10:56.27 | cb400f | what gfxcard and driver.. what effect do you use for alt+tab? |
| 10:56.59 | PasNox | nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GS] (rev a1) / kubuntu 10.10 uptodate 64bits |
| 10:57.00 | cb400f | .. first trying to toggle off effects completely with alt+shift+f12 would be a good start to check if it's an effects related issue or not |
| 10:57.09 | PasNox | i dunnot change effects - i use standard effects |
| 10:57.28 | PasNox | let try |
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| 10:58.02 | PasNox | switch works fine when deactivinf effect |
| 10:58.07 | PasNox | so it's n effect issue :) |
| 10:58.24 | PasNox | redo test with effects on |
| 10:58.27 | cb400f | then disable the switching effect.. or try a different one |
| 10:58.41 | PasNox | ba too bad does not to it right now :/ |
| 10:58.48 | PasNox | do* |
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| 10:59.25 | PasNox | ok so maybe the kde update of the 2 past days fixed the effect bug |
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| 10:59.39 | PasNox | but the virtual desktop switch is still slow and lagging :/ |
| 10:59.53 | PasNox | and plasma eat 100MB |
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| 11:00.03 | PasNox | what about the average plasma desktop consumtion ? |
| 11:00.08 | PasNox | consommation* |
| 11:00.49 | pinotree | neither: consumption |
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| 11:09.15 | thiago | PasNox: what column from top did you look at to measure the memory consumption? |
| 11:09.40 | PasNox | thiago: i did not used top, but kde process viewer |
| 11:09.52 | PasNox | i tried to reprodue bug of task switching |
| 11:09.52 | thiago | good |
| 11:09.57 | thiago | which field then? |
| 11:10.01 | PasNox | this time xorg / kde kill :) |
| 11:10.19 | PasNox | had to killall -9 xorg / plasm and restart kdm :) |
| 11:10.33 | PasNox | there is memory and shared memory |
| 11:10.36 | PasNox | i read "memory" |
| 11:11.00 | PasNox | but i'm french so i dunno how it named the column in english |
| 11:11.02 | thiago | I have 49.5 here |
| 11:11.09 | PasNox | whoch kde version ? |
| 11:11.13 | PasNox | which* |
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| 11:12.57 | PasNox | i jsut restarted kde 4 virtual desktop, and some apps auto open: kontact, kopete, konversation, yakuake |
| 11:13.05 | PasNox | and now plasma is at 80 MB |
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| 11:13.21 | PasNox | but it will grow until my desktop become slow and i had to restart / reboot |
| 11:13.47 | PasNox | thiago: |
| 11:14.00 | cb400f | using any non-default widgets which might leak? |
| 11:14.19 | cb400f | how long does it take to get slow for you... 2 hrs? 2 weeks? |
| 11:14.29 | PasNox | i cna count in hours ;) |
| 11:14.47 | PasNox | i have built 2 plamoid myself but only use one: Smooth Task |
| 11:15.12 | cb400f | hmm.. that should be your prime suspect then I guess :-| |
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| 11:15.25 | PasNox | i think no |
| 11:15.27 | valorie | I've heard that that one causes problems |
| 11:15.36 | PasNox | the probleme was already there before i build / install these plasmoid |
| 11:15.36 | valorie | easy way to find out |
| 11:15.41 | valorie | remove it and see |
| 11:15.42 | PasNox | hm |
| 11:15.50 | PasNox | so i will remove it and restart computer ;) |
| 11:16.07 | PasNox | does simply not use it is enought, or i should uinstall it ? |
| 11:16.13 | valorie | quite easy to put it back if it isn't the problem |
| 11:16.27 | valorie | hmmm, good question |
| 11:16.43 | valorie | I don't know the answer |
| 11:16.54 | valorie | uninstalling would be best, I assume |
| 11:17.07 | PasNox | the other plasmoid is: Activity Manager, it may probably it making noise i found it's reactivity very slow and lagging |
| 11:17.17 | PasNox | ok so let uninstall all these |
| 11:17.29 | valorie | heads bedward |
| 11:17.32 | valorie | good luck |
| 11:17.37 | PasNox | thanks, cy later |
| 11:18.22 | PasNox | grrr |
| 11:18.26 | PasNox | plasmoid search is bad |
| 11:18.44 | PasNox | if fields has â i need type â, like tache does not found tâche |
| 11:18.45 | PasNox | :( |
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| 11:34.54 | PasNox | anyone can help me and say if /usr/bin/kactivitymanagerd is part of officiel kde distribution or if it's part of the thirdparty self build activity manager plasmoid ? |
| 11:35.26 | pinotree | it's part of kdebase-runtime |
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| 11:36.17 | PasNox | damn |
| 11:36.33 | PasNox | so i hve to remove only files i have installed but name seem so near each other :/ |
| 11:36.36 | jemadux | one question .... how to make dolphin like this http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9697/17636815859346504221297.jpg ?? |
| 11:36.38 | PasNox | thanks |
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| 11:38.51 | alpha_one_x86 | Hello, can you help my with the crash: |
| 11:38.51 | alpha_one_x86 | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267780 |
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| 11:51.43 | kriko | hm kde 4.6 still stops embedding icons in systray after some time |
| 11:51.57 | kriko | kded4 is running |
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| 11:57.05 | kriko | I cannot find bug report for that |
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| 12:02.03 | Sho_ | kriko: hm never seen such a problem |
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| 12:02.52 | PasNox | i removed all self build / installed plasmoid, and restarted kde, now plasma desktop is still eating 90Mb of memory :/ |
| 12:02.52 | alpha_one_x86 | #gentoo |
| 12:02.56 | alpha_one_x86 | oups |
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| 12:07.46 | kriko | PasNox: that is low |
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| 12:38.28 | Oinke | Hi |
| 12:38.44 | Oinke | i have a problem with KDE on Windows 7 |
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| 12:38.56 | cb400f | /j #kde-windows |
| 12:42.59 | gameaccount | Hi. I have a problem with amarok and an audio cd. I hit 'copy to collection', but after I confirmed the settings, nothing happens |
| 12:43.11 | gameaccount | also amarok refuses to play the cd |
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| 12:45.20 | cb400f | did you try a different cd to see if it's a general issue or an issue with the specific cd? |
| 12:45.42 | cb400f | can you rip it with 'audiocd:/' in dolphin? .. or with k3b? |
| 12:48.19 | gameaccount | I tried another CD. Let me have a look at k3b |
| 12:50.27 | gameaccount | interesting. K3b seems to copy it at the moment. But dolphin says I do not have the rights to open the audio cd |
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| 12:52.50 | cb400f | hmm.. k3b might be using HAL on your system.. while KDE 4.6 wants to use udev/udisk |
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| 12:54.20 | nsaibot | what has to be set in kde 4.6.1 in order for plasmoids to be resizable. they are unlocked, but now resize handle is shown. |
| 12:54.39 | jemadux | one question .... how to make dolphin like this http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9697/17636815859346504221297.jpg ?? |
| 12:55.40 | nsaibot | s/now/no |
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| 12:56.30 | gameaccount | jemadux: do you mean the theme or the layout? |
| 12:57.04 | jemadux | both |
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| 12:58.47 | cb400f | nsaibot: sounds weird.. maybe you're using a b0rked plasma theme? |
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| 12:59.30 | nsaibot | cb400f: air + oxygen |
| 12:59.30 | jemadux | cb400f: i am using archlinux |
| 13:00.18 | cb400f | I think that's the "oxygen-transparent" thingy from kde-look.org |
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| 13:02.27 | gameaccount | jemadux: You can adjust colors and window frames in Systemsettings unter appearance |
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| 13:03.32 | cb400f | nsaibot: try a new user.. if it doesn't work there either, then "check your installation" |
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| 13:03.44 | gameaccount | jemadux: and in dolphin just make the icons bigger, search in the settings for the filter thing and apply the details button |
| 13:05.24 | cb400f | ctrl+m to hide menu bar |
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| 13:16.25 | nsaibot | i guess it has something to do with my switching between netbook plasma and desktop plasma. i'm currently running the desktop plasma. but the widgets are still layed out for netbook. |
| 13:18.55 | nsaibot | any idea how to switch the widgets back to desktop layout? |
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| 13:34.55 | ArGGu^^ | is the kdewallet.kwl the file that has the passwords? |
| 13:35.11 | thiago | yes |
| 13:35.54 | ArGGu^^ | ok I was thinking that If remove password and would instead encrypt the folder where the file is |
| 13:36.25 | thiago | then you need to type the password when you boot |
| 13:37.16 | ArGGu^^ | thiago hmm but I correct the ubuntu feature that encrypts home folder |
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| 13:37.42 | ArGGu^^ | it opens it on login |
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| 13:38.01 | thiago | no, on boot |
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| 13:44.36 | ArGGu^^ | thiago the ubuntu documentation says differently |
| 13:44.42 | ArGGu^^ | The Private folder is unlocked as soon as the user logs in |
| 13:45.00 | thiago | ok, then |
| 13:45.08 | thiago | I didn't know such a thing existed |
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| 13:54.24 | ngupta | Hi, anyone knows how to highlight the current tab in Konsole? It becomes difficult to spot the current tab when lot of them are open! |
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| 14:09.50 | somekool | ngupta: change it in your general color scheme ? |
| 14:11.07 | spidermario | hm, drop-down lists in Konqueror (with KHTML) sometimes make my computer freeze completely when I change their selection :/ |
| 14:11.37 | spidermario | has anyone else encountered the same issue? |
| 14:13.23 | spidermario | I fear drop-down lists now :P |
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| 14:23.54 | felco | hello, can anybody help me, i got kde 4.4 installed but da Kotete IM does'nt have several protocols?! it`s that right? |
| 14:24.54 | Diana_ | Hello. When I use KWin effeccts, my computer is very choppy. For example, minimising an application happens in about 10 frames instead of seamlessly. Is there some option I could set to reduce the overall quality in exchange for something more natural-looking? |
| 14:25.41 | Diana_ | The computer itself is not bad, as for graphics - "Mobility Radeon HD 4500 Series" |
| 14:26.06 | pumphaus | Diana_: are you using fglrx (i.e. the official ATI driver) or the OSS one? |
| 14:26.25 | cb400f | felco: what protocols specifically.. and what distro |
| 14:26.56 | Diana_ | pumphaus: I just installed Fedora, so I imagine the OSS one. |
| 14:27.06 | felco | cb400f: well, I want all it could support, but I need MSN now... |
| 14:27.19 | felco | it`s a gentoo install |
| 14:28.02 | Diana_ | pumphaus: If I change the window decorator and style away from oxygen, it is quite a bit faster, but still choppy. Someone recommended me to install the application 'fusion-icon' which allowed me to use Compiz, and it works perfectly. I dont like the latter solution too much though .. |
| 14:28.04 | cb400f | Diana_: the individual effects are configurable in systemsettings... also there are alternative minimizing effects like "magic lamp" which might work better for you card/driver/kde version combo |
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| 14:28.26 | cb400f | felco: msn is now called "windows live messenger" or so, if it's not there you installation is wrong |
| 14:28.39 | pumphaus | Diana_: right. in the desktop effect system-settings module, there's an 'advanced' tab. play around with the settings a little |
| 14:28.41 | cb400f | and you should ask gentoo about it |
| 14:28.50 | Diana_ | pumphaus: Thanks, I will give it a shot now |
| 14:28.57 | felco | cb400f: ok thanks, the only protocol here is Ha |
| 14:28.59 | felco | Jabber |
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| 14:29.25 | cb400f | ok, clearly a broken installation then :-) |
| 14:29.40 | pumphaus | Diana_: I'm using a HD4780 with the FOSS drivers. in order to get OpenGL rendering to work, I have to disable the functionality checks. otherwise it falls back to XRender which is quite slow |
| 14:29.49 | felco | found it |
| 14:29.53 | pumphaus | Diana_: but be careful, this might well fire back at you |
| 14:29.59 | felco | USE flags :/ |
| 14:30.05 | felco | newbie |
| 14:31.39 | Diana_ | pumphaus: Okie dokie, lets see then, be right back |
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| 14:34.25 | Diana_ | pumphaus: Do you think the proprietary driver will return better performance? |
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| 14:35.42 | pumphaus | Diana_: I don't know. for me, the proprietary driver displays crappy looking fonts and performance is suboptimal as well. But most people have quite the opposite experience with it |
| 14:35.43 | cb400f | depends... on the xorg version/distro.. the use case... the card... the (kde) configuration |
| 14:35.56 | pumphaus | Diana_: just give it a try |
| 14:35.59 | cb400f | guess you'll just have to try both, and see what workz better for you |
| 14:36.43 | Diana_ | Alright then, thanks a bunch! off I go.. I hope my computer reboots again -,- |
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| 15:05.31 | adarsha_joisa | I'm trying to build kdegraphics using cmake. I get the following error everytime i try to do it: |
| 15:05.33 | adarsha_joisa | cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in |
| 15:05.50 | adarsha_joisa | cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in |
| 15:05.57 | thiago | where is FindKDE4Internal.cmake in your system? |
| 15:06.01 | adarsha_joisa | /home/aj/.kde4/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps;/etc/kde4/share/apps |
| 15:06.02 | adarsha_joisa | Call Stack (most recent call first): |
| 15:06.04 | adarsha_joisa | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.05 | drzed | is ther a kfax in kde4? |
| 15:06.09 | adarsha_joisa | any ideas? |
| 15:06.29 | thiago | drzed: there's a kfax in extragear/graphics |
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| 15:06.54 | kdepepo | drzed, Okular can also open fax files |
| 15:07.13 | adarsha_joisa | @thiago: I'm not very sure. I'm kinda new to kde. :( |
| 15:07.24 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: find the file in your system |
| 15:07.32 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: it must have been installed by your kdelibs development package |
| 15:07.33 | drzed | well, but not corretly (100x200 dpi) - all files are sqeeze |
| 15:07.41 | adarsha_joisa | @thiago: k. gimme a min. |
| 15:08.19 | drzed | hmm kfax is not in debian squeeze |
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| 15:09.53 | adarsha_joisa | @thiago: i don't think i have installed kdelibs. does it come with kde? |
| 15:10.02 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: kdelibs does. |
| 15:10.02 | kdepepo | If Okular doesn't show fax files correctly, please report a bug for okular. |
| 15:10.12 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: kdelibs development files not necessarily |
| 15:10.23 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: you need the development files for kdelibs, Qt and a bunch of others. |
| 15:10.23 | spidermario | whether the development files are installed depends on your distro, adarsha_joisa |
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| 15:12.47 | adarsha_joisa | ok, any idea how I can install these files ? (find returned with 0 results for FindKDE4Internal.cmake |
| 15:12.47 | adarsha_joisa | ) |
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| 15:13.15 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: ask in your distribution channel |
| 15:13.35 | adarsha_joisa | @thiago: ok, thanks for the help! :) |
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| 15:16.11 | drzed | hm okular really fails to display fax files correctly wheras evince does so :(( |
| 15:16.38 | thiago | so okular has no problem? |
| 15:17.10 | kdepepo | drzed, if you can attach a link to the bug report with the fax files, the okular developers can have a look at the problem. |
| 15:17.36 | pinotree | dziadu: what is the problem? "really fails" practically means nothing |
| 15:17.47 | thiago | and the turn of phrase is really weird |
| 15:18.03 | thiago | "okular fails" "whereas" (meaning opposition) "evince does fail" |
| 15:18.16 | drzed | the get displayed half the real size |
| 15:18.40 | drzed | -> the look compressed |
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| 15:18.56 | thiago | probably due to the non-square pixels |
| 15:19.01 | pinotree | how is the fax file name called? |
| 15:19.40 | pinotree | .tiff or .g3/.g4? |
| 15:21.46 | drzed | g3/g4 |
| 15:22.00 | drzed | yes the non square stuff |
| 15:22.22 | drzed | http://wieland.homelinux.org/snapshot1.png <-- sample |
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| 15:22.37 | drzed | the files are named tiff |
| 15:22.46 | drzed | but g3/4 compressed |
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| 15:23.24 | pinotree | is the document public? |
| 15:23.46 | drzed | however, renaming does not help |
| 15:24.28 | drzed | pinotree: now it is |
| 15:24.44 | pinotree | then please file a bug report and attach the document |
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| 15:32.04 | roentgen_ | Anyone willing to share their comments on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232374 ? Thanks |
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| 15:33.18 | Net | Hello |
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| 15:53.28 | PasNox | still having plasma desktop eating memory :/ |
| 15:54.26 | PasNox | i compared with my laptop running kubuntu 10.10 64 bits / nvidia having kde 4.5.5 and plasma desktop only eatin 38MB, as thiago said last time. |
| 15:54.42 | PasNox | my plasma still eat at minimum 90MB of memory and lagguy |
| 15:54.44 | PasNox | :'( |
| 15:54.57 | PasNox | i removed all self built / installed plasmoid |
| 15:55.02 | PasNox | what i can do now ? |
| 15:55.52 | roentgen_ | PasNox: does it behave poorly? How much RAM you have? |
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| 15:57.41 | PasNox | roentgen_: i think i can considere i have a good computer |
| 15:58.02 | PasNox | Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz |
| 15:58.12 | PasNox | nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GS] (rev a1) |
| 15:58.15 | PasNox | and 4GB RAM |
| 15:59.21 | roentgen_ | good computer and supported hardware are not always the same thing :) |
| 15:59.33 | roentgen_ | which driver for that nvidia thingie? |
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| 16:02.06 | PasNox | roentgen_: i had no problem with kde 4.5 :( |
| 16:02.19 | PasNox | only got problems since i upgraded to kde 4.6 |
| 16:02.25 | PasNox | let me check |
| 16:02.28 | PasNox | for the driver |
| 16:03.06 | roentgen_ | PasNox: the nvidia one or the nouveau included in kernel? and what kernel? |
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| 16:03.21 | PasNox | yes nvidia propietary one |
| 16:03.27 | Parkotron | I just installed LibreOffice, and LibreOffice Writer has usurped Kate as the default application for *all* plain text MIME types. Is there an easy way to do that? (other than uninstalling LibreOffice ;) |
| 16:04.16 | roentgen_ | Parkotron: alt+f2, type assoc and search for text related entries |
| 16:04.23 | PasNox | roentgen_: Linux pasnox-desktop 2.6.35-27-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 20:25:46 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux, for the driver jockey kde say i'm using current one ( recommanded ), and it tell there is a 173 version too |
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| 16:05.06 | PasNox | btw i had xorg memory leak with 4.6.0 that seem to had been fixed when upgraded to 4.6.1 ? |
| 16:05.29 | Parkotron | roentgen_: By easy, I meant not having to fix all of them one at a time. :) |
| 16:05.53 | roentgen_ | PasNox: well tricky ... but for myself I find nouveau better. But that's on a .38 kernel |
| 16:06.28 | roentgen_ | PasNox: they usually go better togheter latest kde, latest xorg and latest kernel |
| 16:06.29 | PasNox | roentgen_: does nouveau have 3d acceleration ? |
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| 16:07.05 | roentgen_ | PasNox: having latest kde with outdated x and kernel is a no go |
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| 16:07.30 | roentgen_ | not much they say but desktop effects feel better with nouveau |
| 16:07.32 | PasNox | i will not install, but just to be informed if it now have 3d hardware acccceleratio |
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| 16:07.40 | PasNox | oki |
| 16:08.08 | PasNox | grrr tired of this kind of bug, each time i upgrade kubuntu new problems appear :D |
| 16:08.31 | PasNox | and at final, i dunno if it's a xorg / nvidia bug or kde or ... dunno :) |
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| 16:10.02 | roentgen_ | you didn't say what the actual problem is. Does it behave poorly or are you just worried of the mem consumption? |
| 16:10.39 | PasNox | i have performance problem |
| 16:10.49 | PasNox | switching virtual desktop using the plasmoid |
| 16:10.57 | PasNox | have freeze of around 1/2 seconds |
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| 16:11.19 | PasNox | switch task with the default task switcher effect ( alt + tab ) result to plasma / xorg crash |
| 16:11.20 | PasNox | etc |
| 16:11.24 | PasNox | roentgen_: |
| 16:11.50 | roentgen_ | aha... then try to disable nvidia driver for bit and see... |
| 16:12.01 | PasNox | as suggested by someone i tried to deactivate the effect and swiyching task was fine |
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| 16:12.14 | spidermario | the proprietary nvidia drivers are probably the cause |
| 16:12.39 | PasNox | the probleme is that i never hasd probleme like this before kde 4.6, kde 4.5 was fine :/ |
| 16:13.00 | spm-Draget | I installed eagle on my gentoo system and everything was fine. Then I associated one .sch file with eagle, and suddenly my KDE wants to open many different types with eagle. Including konqueror pagesoruce-view =( |
| 16:13.06 | spm-Draget | Can I somehow reset this? |
| 16:13.23 | PasNox | unassoc the suffix :) |
| 16:13.38 | spidermario | are .sch plain text files ? |
| 16:13.43 | spidermario | .sch files* |
| 16:14.04 | roentgen_ | PasNox: is that Kubuntu right? |
| 16:14.34 | spidermario | you might want to create a new mime type for them, spm-Draget |
| 16:15.31 | PasNox | roentgen_: yes |
| 16:15.47 | spm-Draget | spidermario: They are some markup stuff that describe schematics for kicad. But I do not care about these anymore, I just do not want my whole system to be messed up by eagel =( |
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| 16:17.21 | roentgen_ | PasNox: gtg |
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| 16:24.19 | PasNox | roentgen_: ok, cya |
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| 16:38.53 | apparle | why does microblogging save only 25 messages. I set the timeline size to 100 msgs |
| 16:42.01 | icwiener | apparle: You mean in Choqok? |
| 16:42.16 | apparle | icwiener: no in the uBlog widget |
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| 16:44.50 | apparle | icwiener: ? |
| 16:45.21 | icwiener | apparle: Second, I just opened it ... |
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| 16:47.16 | icwiener | waits for the timeline to update. :) |
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| 16:47.28 | icwiener | It is set to 2 minutes for testing .. |
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| 16:48.53 | apparle | icwiener: just click on replies and then again back on timeline it will refresh |
| 16:49.57 | icwiener | apparle: Did new posts arrive after you increased the limit? |
| 16:50.07 | apparle | icwiener: yeah |
| 16:50.16 | apparle | icwiener: I'm using twitter and kde 4.5 |
| 16:51.22 | adarsha_joisa | i'm trying to build kdelibs 4.6.1 using cmake, and i get the following error: |
| 16:51.23 | adarsha_joisa | CMake Error at cmake/modules/FindQt4.cmake:1256 (MESSAGE): |
| 16:51.25 | adarsha_joisa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.26 | adarsha_joisa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.36 | adarsha_joisa | any ideas how i can install qt 4.7.0? |
| 16:51.51 | spidermario | what is your operating system? |
| 16:51.52 | thiago | adarsha_joisa: get from your distro |
| 16:51.59 | icwiener | adarsha_joisa: You will have to ask that in the channel of your distro. |
| 16:52.18 | adarsha_joisa | ok, will try that. |
| 16:52.58 | icwiener | apparle: I am using identi.ca and KDE 4.6. ;) I will have to wait for new posts first to see if the increased limit is used. I only installed and am using it for a few days so I am not very experienced with it ... I have to observe it for a few minutes before I can say more ... |
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| 17:27.00 | Germanaz0 | hello everybody |
| 17:27.17 | Germanaz0 | someone knows how to hide the users list |
| 17:27.20 | Germanaz0 | on ksplash |
| 17:27.24 | Germanaz0 | with kde 4.4 |
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| 17:42.20 | bajk-tragbar | is there a way of hiding those crash messages? My Kwin crashes like every 2 minutes and I DONT CARE about it, it just restarts and everythings fine. So, the error dialog is more annoying than the crash itself |
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| 17:45.28 | Germanaz0 | hello |
| 17:45.30 | Germanaz0 | someone knows |
| 17:45.36 | Germanaz0 | how to hide the users list on kde 4.4 |
| 17:45.40 | Germanaz0 | I have Opensuse |
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| 17:46.13 | thiago | what user list? |
| 17:47.44 | likewhoa | thiago: i think he means FACES in kdm |
| 17:48.23 | likewhoa | Germanaz0: if so, just edit the theme to not show faces browser. |
| 17:49.52 | Germanaz0 | ahh ok |
| 17:50.48 | Germanaz0 | is kdm not ksplash :D |
| 17:50.52 | Germanaz0 | thanks likewhoa |
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| 18:11.51 | VulcanRidr | Question: Where are the menus generated in kde 4.5 on Debian? I installed crossover, and it broke my menus, and most of my apps ended up in Lost & Found, and about half of my categories disappeared. I'm using Lancelot for menuing, but the categories are the same in the default app launcher. |
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| 18:41.59 | VulcanRidr | Question: Where are the menus generated in kde 4.5 on Debian? I installed crossover, and it broke my menus, and most of my apps ended up in Lost & Found, and about half of my categories disappeared. I'm using Lancelot for menuing, but the categories are the same in the default app launcher. |
| 18:42.20 | thiago | all over |
| 18:42.27 | thiago | the menu system is several hundred files |
| 18:43.40 | thiago | user-specific settings are in ~/.local and ~/.config |
| 18:44.45 | VulcanRidr | Then what is the best way to fix it? When I built the box, I had the following categories: Debian, Development, Education, Games, Graphics, Internet, Multimedia, Office, Settings, System, Utilities and Lost&Found. After installing Crossover, this was reduced to Development, Education, Games, Internet, Multimedia and Lost&Found. And most of the apps are in L&F. |
| 18:45.07 | VulcanRidr | I figure it would take hours to restore it via kmenuedit... |
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| 18:46.13 | simh_ | hey, is there any place I can check information about kde pim2, the status and if there is a due date? |
| 18:46.44 | simh_ | akonadi started to eat 100% my cpu and I had to switch to webmail so I thounth that maybe its time to try pim2 |
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| 18:48.58 | Verge | simh_: umm |
| 18:49.08 | Verge | If Akonadi is the problem, why do you want to switch to Akonadi-based apps |
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| 18:49.56 | simh_ | Verge: i thought I'd give new version a try |
| 18:50.36 | VulcanRidr | thiago: Does kde ship a script to repair the menus? |
| 18:50.42 | thiago | VulcanRidr: no |
| 18:50.51 | thiago | VulcanRidr: as far as KDE is concerned, they're not damaged |
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| 18:51.55 | VulcanRidr | thiago: So kmenuedit is the way to go about it? |
| 18:53.00 | thiago | VulcanRidr: could be |
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| 18:55.01 | VulcanRidr | thiago: Thanks. I was hoping for an easier way, but I'll do what it takes... |
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| 19:15.43 | VulcanRidr | thiago: One last question. From kmenuedit, should clicking save update my menus on the fly or do I need to log out and back in? |
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| 19:16.00 | thiago | it should make the changes on the fly |
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| 19:17.57 | VulcanRidr | thiago: It's not updating then. |
| 19:20.10 | VulcanRidr | I've checked in both the app menu and Lancelot, and neither are updated. |
| 19:20.18 | Verge | http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/GroupingDesktop |
| 19:20.28 | Verge | Why are these features not present in my KDE 4.6 |
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| 19:22.02 | cb400f | hm.. think the grouping stuff is part y're part of kde |
| 19:22.06 | cb400f | gah.. |
| 19:22.10 | cb400f | part of kdeplasma-addons |
| 19:23.59 | cb400f | I have the grouping desktop activity on my 4.6.0 at least |
| 19:24.52 | Verge | woow |
| 19:24.55 | Verge | It is there |
| 19:25.03 | Verge | After installing kdeplasma-addons-containments |
| 19:29.05 | spm-Draget | Since once associating a .sch file with a programm called eagle, my KDE is trying to open almost each and every frigging file with it. I think all files not associated to anything else - or text mime type or I do not now =( How can I reverse it? |
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| 19:37.11 | thomasj | s/mimetypes/File Associations/ |
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| 19:48.23 | skomorokh | so kde has some "display" concept and chooses the leftmost as display 1 (ie. if i tell randr to put that monitor on the right, tada it's display 2). so i want the rightmost display to hold the desktop, how do I do that? i found out where to tell it to have new windows show up on display 2, i just need to coax the plasma stuff over somehow? |
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| 20:10.27 | skomorokh | oooo... panels. gotcha. |
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| 20:30.45 | mika__ | hi, is it possible to lock the screen, but keeping the screen on and showing the various stuff (not freezed, i mean, if it's a moving it should keep playing, but without be able to use the computer because it's locked)? |
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| 20:32.18 | apparle_ | mika__: you can enable widgets to be visible over screen saver |
| 20:32.40 | apparle_ | !phoronix |
| 20:33.07 | mika__ | apparle_: i need to show firefox with various tabs that cycle after some seconds (showcase) |
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| 20:33.30 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 20:33.50 | apparle_ | mika__: I don't know then, although you could try removing the keyboard and the mouse :P |
| 20:33.51 | johnfg | I just installed kde4 on debian squeeze and am configuring kmail. |
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| 20:47.03 | Sentynel | Hi guys, running KDE4.6 on Kubuntu 10.10 and my kmix keeps maxing out my CPU. got a GDB trace of it when it's in the CPU-eating state here: http://pastebin.com/fYXrWCSj |
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| 20:54.56 | GNUtoo|laptop | hi, I've kde4.4.5's konsole under gnome for now |
| 20:55.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | I'm trying to migrate to kde |
| 20:55.04 | GNUtoo|laptop | step by step |
| 20:55.06 | GNUtoo|laptop | but.... |
| 20:55.11 | GNUtoo|laptop | when I ssh into my phone |
| 20:55.31 | GNUtoo|laptop | often right click and selection don't work anymore in konsole |
| 20:55.37 | GNUtoo|laptop | I select |
| 20:55.39 | GNUtoo|laptop | a line |
| 20:55.42 | GNUtoo|laptop | and then right click |
| 20:55.45 | GNUtoo|laptop | and then nothing |
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| 20:55.50 | GNUtoo|laptop | no copy-paste menu |
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| 20:56.58 | thiago | yeah, known to happen in konsole |
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| 20:58.30 | GNUtoo|laptop | ah? |
| 20:58.34 | GNUtoo|laptop | will it be fixed? |
| 20:58.40 | GNUtoo|laptop | because konsole is so nice |
| 20:58.46 | GNUtoo|laptop | I went to fosdem |
| 20:58.53 | GNUtoo|laptop | and they told me konsole was not buggy |
| 20:58.54 | thiago | if someone manages to figure out what the problem is, then apply a fix, yes |
| 20:58.57 | thiago | it will be fixed |
| 20:59.01 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 20:59.15 | GNUtoo|laptop | the problem is that I do not have a lot of time |
| 20:59.35 | thiago | for what? |
| 20:59.41 | GNUtoo|laptop | for tracking the bug |
| 21:00.00 | thiago | I didn't say you had to do it |
| 21:00.02 | GNUtoo|laptop | and most important, my knowledge of C++ is close to 0 |
| 21:00.03 | GNUtoo|laptop | ok |
| 21:00.06 | thiago | but any time you do have would be appreciated |
| 21:00.26 | GNUtoo|laptop | basically all I know in c++ is how to "inject" C code |
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| 21:24.11 | ahel | hi! can anyone suggest me how split a huge pdf into 2 or 3 little pdf? |
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| 21:29.56 | ompaul | ahel: it would depend on the pdf and what your distro provides - there are some pdf2txt programs and they can make it somewhat easier but remember you may have real fun if you have images on every page |
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| 21:31.29 | Sentynel | ahel: try pdfsam |
| 21:31.36 | Sentynel | splits and merges pdf files, nice and simple |
| 21:32.11 | ahel | ty all! |
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| 21:33.42 | ahel | i'm running Arch-Linux |
| 21:35.18 | ahel | and yes there are tons of images... |
| 21:35.36 | ahel | it's 296MiB large |
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| 21:42.13 | cb400f | pdftk can also do some stuff |
| 21:45.57 | ahel | it's seems that there're some trouble on |
| 21:46.08 | ahel | Arch about pdfsam.. |
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| 21:55.14 | lamefun | can I make KWin to remove window titles from maximized windows? |
| 21:55.20 | lamefun | like in plasma-netbook? |
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| 21:57.43 | ahel | lameful: changing decoration? |
| 21:58.35 | EffBee_ | lamefun: You're probably looking for fullscreen mode |
| 21:58.46 | EffBee_ | Maybe? |
| 21:58.48 | lamefun | and there should still be panel |
| 21:58.51 | lamefun | like in netbook |
| 21:58.55 | icewind | there is some option for it you can set in kwinrc |
| 21:58.56 | lamefun | i wanna make something like Unity |
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| 22:03.52 | icewind | lamefun: http://hanschen.org/2010/04/01/hide-window-border-for-maximized-windows/ |
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| 22:16.21 | ahel | icewind: cool ty |
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| 22:40.39 | VulcanRidr | Okay, I've been messing with this for a bit. kmenuedit is not updating my kde4 menus. Is there some way to regenerate the menus? |
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| 22:45.32 | rplnt | Hello, I keep hearing some notification-like sound .. every minute or so. There is no notification sound enabled in "manage notifications". I've also checked applications I started and weren't there (kopete). How could I find which application is producing this sound? |
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| 22:57.25 | rplnt | It's not even notification. I just checked "no sound" there. And I'm still hearing it... |
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| 23:04.38 | VulcanRidr | Okay, I've been messing with this for a bit. kmenuedit is not updating my kde4 menus. Is there some way to regenerate the menus? |
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| 23:08.03 | icewind | VulcanRidr: try `kbuildsyscoca4` |
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| 23:14.27 | VulcanRidr | Thanks icewind. I found the problem, I think, but I'm not sure what to do about it. Starting at line 330, it appears there is a bunch of garbage characters in the file. Can I cut and paste into the channel or do you use pastebin? |
| 23:18.04 | VulcanRidr | Or could I copy that file (/etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu) from another box that is similarly configured? |
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| 23:19.20 | icewind | don't know, I never use the menu |
| 23:21.17 | VulcanRidr | alt-f2? |
| 23:21.24 | spm-Draget | thomasj: Without hilighting I failed to notice your post, sorry. Where would that button be? On kde .4.4.5 here, on the second page in the systemsettings there is only 'file associations' (translated, using german locale here) |
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