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01:00.01ian_which phonon backend provides equalizer support in Amarok (I currently have gstreamer only)?
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01:03.32icewindian_: I think xine has the most features but isn't seeing much development any more in favor of vlc
01:03.52icewindso xine probably has the biggest chance
01:05.07ian_thanks
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01:07.14Sho_I think equalizer support was mostly worked on for the vlc backend
01:07.17Sho_#phonon would know
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01:10.27YukingI have two questions about kmail. 1. How to set default charset when compsing other than utf8? 2. How to send HTML-format email?
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01:30.03ian_never mind .. I just discovered Clementine, which looks a lot nicer than Amarok anyway, and the equalizer works!
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01:39.11mmarc__hi, guys! Anyone here who showed impressive videos of kde on n900 using gles? I'm wondering if any related work is already made exactly in this direction, but for different device: toshiba ac100 (tegra). Is it possible now to refit it with kde smoothly? TIA!
01:41.21mmarc__In any case, I'm considering to try out kde-gles on tegra2, and looking for directions...
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01:44.07mmarc__Is it correct the SC 4.7 will have OpenGL ES as the main backend? If so, I suppose it should not be much pain to compile it for arm... Right? Any constraints on X server version?
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02:17.15ShexNivisWhere is the log saved from those errors dialog from when a program gets killed?
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03:07.46shaw1337Hi anyone knows how to connect a form to mysql or any database in QT creator on ubuntu 10.10 ?
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03:17.45KWhat4Phonon keeps asking me if i would like to forget about the same 3 devices over and over again.  I keep clicking yes and it keeps asking.  Is there a way to remove devices from the list manually?
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04:44.38*** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.6 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
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05:19.11icarus-cout of curiously: on linux, would using jemalloc as memory benefitial for KDE? since KDE apps have so many threads
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09:03.04skramer_hi, anybody else noticed that any apps started with kdesudo look ugly after yesterday's update to KDE SC 4.6.1?
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09:03.24skramer_I'm on Kubuntu 10.10 64-bit, btw.
09:03.56skramer_unfortunately, I could not find how to fix this problem. anybody has an idea?
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09:59.17skramer_after upgrading to KDE SC 4.6.1, apps started with kdesudo look really ugly: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/08/Screen.png
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09:59.44skramer_the bottom right Kate is started with kdesudo...
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10:00.39skramer_could please anybody help me making look it as nice as any app not started with kdesudo
10:01.11mikeplus64in pekwm, I could click on an edge of the screen to change the workspace I'm in ( or hold alt and bring the cursor to the side of the screen ). Is there a way to do this in KDE
10:01.13mikeplus64?
10:01.36mikeplus64I know you can have the cursor hover over the edge but I find that I do that accidentally too much ( so clicking on the edge is better )
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10:07.57rethusis there a way to preset a programm for special activities?
10:08.38rethusif i start a programm its only on the actual activitie... i try to get "Firefox" always on all activities, kontact only on Activity (Communication" and so on
10:08.53AL13N_workmy offline imap in kmail isn't getting any new emails, i tried refreshing, but apparently it only refreshes my first offline imap box, and not the second one. any idea how i can fix this manually?
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10:38.59rethusis there a way to preset a programm for special activities?
10:39.00rethus(11:08:39) rethus: if i start a programm its only on the actual activitie... i try to get "Firefox" always on all activities, kontact only on Activity (Communication" and so on
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10:42.31Damnshockrethus: that seems like a feature request
10:43.11Jucato_rethus: you could try asking in #plasma
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11:20.08Peace-guys... i need of help
11:20.22Peace-i can't find a nice way to print only a selection from a webpage
11:20.29Peace-hours hours and i can't
11:20.34Peace-:(
11:22.00DamnshockPeace-: go again
11:22.16Damnshocka selection? like a square selection with your mouse?
11:24.06Peace-Damnshock: go here
11:24.16Peace-Damnshock: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma-algebra
11:24.29Peace-Damnshock: Try to print from the title              to
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11:24.41Peace-to this On the Euclidean space Rn, another σ-algebra is of importance: that of all Lebesgue measurable sets. This σ-algebra contains more sets than the Borel σ-algebra on Rn and is preferred in integration theory, as it gives a complete measure space.
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11:26.47RealmkeeperPeace-: Are you using Firefox?
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11:27.42RealmkeeperPeace-: Is so: View -> Page Style -> No Style
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11:27.58RealmkeeperPeace-: Then you can copy whatever you wish easily.
11:27.59Peace-Realmkeeper: nope man i am using rekonq chrome opera
11:28.11Peace-and konquerro
11:28.15Peace-but nothing works xD
11:28.23Peace-damn
11:28.27RealmkeeperPeace-: Perhaps they have a similar was to set to No Style.
11:28.33Realmkeeper*way
11:28.39Peace-mm
11:28.42Peace-no style?
11:28.48Peace-Realmkeeper: screenshot?
11:28.56Peace-about that on firefox ?
11:29.29RealmkeeperPeace, just install Firefox... it won't bite you. ;)
11:29.46Damnshockthe last RC is quite good by the way
11:29.49Peace-what a shame i have to install firefox
11:30.05Peace-i have 200 browsers :S
11:30.09Peace-*.*
11:31.07RealmkeeperPeace, I've found how to do it in Opera
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11:32.30RealmkeeperPeace-: In Opera... Menu -> Page -> Style -> User mode
11:33.04RealmkeeperPeace-: Though, there are quite a few to pick from in the Style menu, so see which one is best for you.
11:33.27Peace-Realmkeeper:  man ty for the patience
11:33.31Peace-i will try
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11:33.50RealmkeeperYou're welcome.
11:36.17Peace-Realmkeeper: bah i have tried a lots but ti seems doen't fit
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11:37.45RealmkeeperPeace-: What exactly do you wish to do?
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11:38.49RealmkeeperYou just want to print the content of the article?
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11:40.12Peace-Realmkeeper: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=94064&p=191163#p191163
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11:42.54DamnshockPeace-: save it as pdf
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11:43.37Peace-Damnshock: ok but then ? *__* it saves all the page , i have tried that too with chrome extensions
11:43.48Peace-so again i don't want all the pages
11:43.51Damnshockyeah, well
11:43.54Damnshockthen you can make a selection
11:44.01Damnshockor print specific pages
11:44.03Damnshockor whatever
11:44.06Peace-mm
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11:45.15Peace-omg what a work to print these damned 10 pages
11:45.22Peace-bah
11:46.34Peace-i wonder why on widnows is so easy
11:46.38Peace-and in linux no
11:46.42Peace-*___*
11:47.02RealmkeeperPeace-: How do you do it on Windows?
11:47.04Tm_TPeace-: I usually find it the other way
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11:47.30Peace-Realmkeeper: select what you want print , then print selection
11:47.37Peace-*__*
11:47.40DamnshockPeace-: you do realise in wikipedia there's a sidebar with a Print/Export section
11:47.41Damnshockright?
11:47.47Peace-Damnshock: well
11:48.21Peace-Damnshock: mm i see printable
11:48.24Peace-xD
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11:48.41RealmkeeperDamnshock for the win!
11:48.56Peace-welll
11:49.04Peace-this bastard browsers
11:49.08Peace-:D
11:49.12Tm_Tlanguage...
11:49.19Peace-Damnshock: ty :)
11:49.35Peace-will develop thekonqui service menu
11:49.57Peace-at least for wikipedia
11:50.03DamnshockPeace-: nice addition
11:50.09Damnshockalthough I use firefox xD
11:51.46Peace-Damnshock: hahaha
11:52.02Damnshockmaybe someday I'll code a vimperator thing for konqueror
11:52.06Damnshockand I'll be able to use it
11:52.07DamnshockxD
11:52.26Peace-Tm_T: :P
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12:01.24ahoxHi, I just upgraded to kde4 and now kded4 always uses 100% cpu, is that normal?
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12:02.26ahoxand can I kill/restart kded4 while running kde, or is this problematic?
12:03.03Damnshockahox: when it's stack at 100% it's usually due to a problem
12:03.09Damnshockyou won't be able to restart it
12:03.10Damnshockonly kill
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12:03.22Damnshockahox: I recommend logging of and back in again
12:03.34ahoxits at 100% for over an hour now, so I guess it is a problem
12:03.52Damnshockeverything over 10 secs is a problem with kded4
12:04.04ahoxI can't really restart my session right now, I have another program running
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12:05.04ahoxthought, I could restart kded4
12:05.16ahoxit took an -KILL, but it worked and now its back to normal
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12:07.11Damnshocktry opening a file from dolphin
12:07.14Damnshockand image or something
12:07.19Damnshockto  check if it's working
12:09.49ahoxyes, it does work
12:09.58ahoxand now even nepomum search works
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12:12.21Peace-<PROTECTED>
12:12.35Peace-try with that user to see if the situation improves
12:12.47ahoxwell, it does work now, so problem solved
12:13.09Peace-ok
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12:16.16RealmkeeperDamnshock: Just for something different I decided to see what this vimperator you mentioned was, and installed it on Firefox... well, that was, err, fun. ;)
12:19.40DamnshockRealmkeeper: hahahahahahhaa
12:19.48Damnshockdid you even know how to quit? :P
12:20.38RealmkeeperI've used vim before... though, on the times that my Microsoft-using wife uses my computer, she might not overly like it.
12:21.36RealmkeeperAt the moment I'm reading through to see who to get it to at least show the URL and bookmarks bars.
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12:21.40Damnshockdoesn't she have an account on your computer?
12:22.06RealmkeeperNar, she just uses my account.
12:22.13Damnshockset gui=all
12:22.16Damnshockto show everything
12:22.18RealmkeeperYes... I'm lazy that way. :D
12:22.31RealmkeeperAh, thanks.
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12:23.35Damnshockset gui=tabs,bookmarks,navigation
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12:23.38Damnshockthat's what you need
12:23.59Peace-Damnshock: -.- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11825
12:24.07Peace-Damnshock: downloaed firefox beta
12:24.17Peace-Damnshock: print selection just like windows -.-
12:24.50DamnshockPeace-: that's an oooold bug
12:26.02WulfenHaha, wow!  It stretches from 2000 to present.
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12:26.56Peace-Damnshock: i wonder why kwin effects are fixed
12:27.00Peace-and this no
12:27.04Peace-*__*
12:27.12WulfenBecause kwin effects are pretty.
12:28.16Peace-Wulfen: print what i want is prettier :D
12:29.04WulfenHmmmm
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12:29.09WulfenI'm sorry that does not compute.
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12:34.25mika___(i need firefox opened, not widgets)
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12:42.25RealmkeeperDamnshock: `set gui=all' didn't work. Read through and had to use `:set guioptions+=mT'
12:42.25yecril71plEach time I display a TIFF image in Konqueror, the status line gets another no entry sign.
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12:45.05DamnshockRealmkeeper: you must be using the old version then (aka firefox 3.6.x)
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12:46.26RealmkeeperDamnshock: 3.6.13
12:46.46RealmkeeperI take you use are using 4?
12:48.52DamnshockRealmkeeper: yep
12:48.56Damnshockworks pretty well here
12:49.45Damnshockfirefox has two "must have" things for me that konqueror doesn't
12:49.47RealmkeeperOld(ish) man here... I just wait these days for the distro to send it my way. :D
12:49.50gnumdkIs there a way to force akregator to not use konqueror cookies ?
12:49.58Damnshockvimpertator and sync across computers
12:50.18DamnshockRealmkeeper: I used an own package for firefox
12:50.53Damnshockhttp://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38753
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12:51.57Damnshockgnumdk: there's an option to use/not use the browser cache
12:51.59Damnshockmaybe that?
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12:57.50WulfenUgh, that print selected text from Konqueror bug was so long and full of crap, I don't see why anyone would want to take the time to read any of it.
12:57.50AL13N_workmy offline imap in kmail isn't getting any new emails, i tried refreshing, but apparently it only refreshes my first offline imap box, and not the second one. any idea how i can fix this manually? is there some command i can do that can invalidate the cache or refresh it?
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13:01.18icewindAL13N_work: enable interval mail checking
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13:01.45AL13N_workicewind: that is enabled, but that is totally not what i meant
13:02.11AL13N_workicewind: rightclicking on folder to get new mail, does not get new mail
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13:02.31DamnshockAL13N_work: the kio_imap proces must be dead
13:02.37Damnshocktry killing it
13:02.47AL13N_workDamnshock: i killed it, restarted kontact, and even rebooted
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13:02.52RealmkeeperDamnshock: Perhaps the developer of Rekonq can include vimpertator and sync across computers once it is completed.
13:03.07AL13N_workthere is something wrong in the cache where it keeps from getting updates
13:03.11DamnshockRealmkeeper: yeah as well as manage links properly
13:03.18Damnshockalthough that doesn't seem to be rekonq's fault
13:03.22AL13N_worki tried to do refresh and invalidate too
13:03.26Damnshockbut kdelibs or something else
13:03.43AL13N_workrefresh refreshes the first imap, but not the second one
13:03.54AL13N_work(this is only about the second imap box)
13:03.58DamnshockAL13N_work: try setting up a new account
13:03.59AL13N_work(from even the same server)
13:04.18AL13N_workwell, i wanted to know if there was some manual command to fix this
13:04.26AL13N_workif not, i'll just delete it and start again
13:04.39AL13N_workit's just alot of email
13:04.47AL13N_worklast time it took ages to fetch
13:05.06AL13N_work(shared support box at work)
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13:11.35DamnshockAL13N_work: well maybe there is a way to delete cache or something like that
13:11.49Damnshockas far as I know, kmail keeps an index of email
13:11.53Damnshocktry rebuilding that
13:12.28Damnshockby the way
13:12.41Damnshockthere is an option to rebuild local imap cache
13:13.08DamnshockAL13N_work: right click -> properties -> maintenence
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13:27.07serenbergподскажите кто-нибудь растровый редактор для RHEL 5
13:27.21decraHi, when i select Window Under Cursor on Ksnapshot and click Take new screenshot, it takes the same image it took when it started such the whole desktop instead of the window under the cursor. Why?
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13:35.02yecril71plWhy is zoom 100% in Okular wider than zoom 100% in Gwenview?
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13:35.43pinotreehow many dpi has your screen?
13:36.08Jucato_decra: did you click on the window you want to screenshot after clicking on "Take New Screenshot"? (presuming you have No Delay set)
13:36.56yecril71plpinotree: resolution:    96x96 dots per inch
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13:37.13pinotreewhich document type?
13:37.20yecril71plTIFF A4
13:37.41yecril71plTIFF-G4
13:38.22yecril71plcannot send TIFF images from Dolphin to Gwenview
13:38.45yecril71plcan only tell Gwenview to open them
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13:47.43pinotreetried dragging and dropping the preview in ksnapshot?
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14:02.00The_Userhi
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14:03.08The_Userkcharselect tells me that the Heta (�, u0371) would not be printable, but it is definitely printable
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14:03.29The_Userdoesn't it use the character data provided by unicode?
14:03.50The_UserI can't imagine any reason for this bug
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14:08.06yecril71plThe_User: I got a question mark from your printable character.
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14:09.08The_Useryecril71pl: well, I got a heta � :D
14:09.15The_Userbut it is definitely printable
14:09.34yecril71plApparently, not in all circumstances.
14:09.34Dorfmeister� is called heta?
14:10.09The_Useryes, u0371
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14:10.33The_Userhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heta_(letter) there you can get an image
14:11.16The_Userthere is an image, so it is printable ;)
14:11.42yecril71plThe image is printable, the character is not.
14:11.53AL13N_workDamnshock: i cried hurray too soon... it's not fixed, it's just been reset to the internal cache it seems.
14:11.54yecril71plIt arrives as a question mark.
14:12.13DorfmeisterAh, you mean Eta. Now I get it.
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14:13.09yecril71plI think whether a character is printable or not is locale-specific.
14:13.12AL13N_workit seems i don't have a font that has u0371
14:13.22The_Useryecril71pl: no, it is a property of the character
14:13.28DorfmeisterAre you native English speakers aware that your names don't match the original Greek ones? mu for example is originally pronounced "mii" :D
14:13.29AL13N_workso it's displayed as a ? in a black diamond
14:14.09The_Userit is a heta :D
14:14.18yecril71plActually, mu is originally pronounced "my"
14:15.44The_Useractually, the pronounciation of μ changed in greece, too
14:17.05The_Useraccording to wikipedia: first oo, then ü, then ee
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14:19.55The_Usernon-printable characters are characters like word-joiners, no-break-here, break permitted here, BOMs etc.
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14:25.36The_Userhmm, strange, konversation cannot display the heta, but all the other applications can…
14:26.44The_User�
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14:28.09The_Userdejavu sans can display it, konversation should use dejavu sans, but I get �
14:28.12The_Userstrange…
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14:30.27decraksnapshot 4.6.0 is broken, help plz
14:31.19yecril71plMy snapshot works all right
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14:32.07Jucato_decra: did you see my reply to you earlier?
14:32.33decraJucato_: nope
14:32.38decrasorry, what did you say?
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14:33.23decrayecril71pl: does your Cursor Under Window work on 4.6.0 ?
14:36.51The_Userhmm, gnome's charselect works
14:37.00The_Usergrrr
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14:37.12yecril71pldecra: what is Cursor Under Window?
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14:38.05decrayecril71pl: open ksnapshot
14:38.16decrathen select Window Under Cursor
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14:38.38decrait should take a screenshot of the windows you're cursor is on
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14:39.37decraJucato_: I tryied with and without delay
14:39.43decratried*
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14:40.13yecril71pljust took a Window Under Cursor snapshot
14:40.20yecril71plit worked
14:40.40decrait was working for me too, then it stopped to work
14:40.43decraidk why
14:40.50decramaybe cuz of an old lib link
14:41.01decrabut hard to say which lib
14:42.19Jucato_sorry decra. works for me, with or without delay
14:42.56decraJucato_: dont you know what libs does it use to achieve that task?
14:43.26Jucato_nope
14:45.18decraI'll try compiling libXcursor
14:45.18decra:\
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14:46.01yecril71pldecra: use debugger
14:46.43decrayecril71pl: yup im using strace
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14:47.54yecril71plstrace will not help against libX
14:48.12yecril71pltry xev
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14:50.38decrayecril71pl: ok i'll install it
14:51.03decrayecril71pl: how does it work?
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14:54.50yecril71pldecra: it spies on events sent to a window and dumps them to stdout
14:55.22yecril71plXev is part of X11
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14:55.49decrayecril71pl: but how can i use it with ksnapshot?
14:55.57decrai dont get it
14:56.58yecril71pltarget xev against the target window and see what happens
14:58.13decrawait, what do you mean with target o.o
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15:02.43yecril71plthe window you intend to retrieve
15:03.04decrayes ok
15:03.19decrabut when i run xev, a rectangular window pop-up
15:03.28decrathen i do not know how to target ksnapshot
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15:45.10Peace-pinotree: see the bug of ksnapshot http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/08/marble1.png
15:45.27Peace-pinotree: send to doesn't work for gwenview or others photo software
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15:45.52Peace-alpha 3 xD
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16:35.54cb400fgood.. who are "we"?
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16:36.08Whoi mean india
16:36.19Whotomorrow, it's india's first KDE conference
16:36.24cb400fah.. say hello to will stephenson from me then :-)
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16:36.53Whowell i am quite  new to FOSS, i am a novice to be honest, what can i expect tomorrow ?
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16:37.41antonioJASRis back.
16:37.47Whoi  mean i heard about KDE conference from my die hard FOSS fans alot but is there to learn for a new guy like me ?
16:38.46cb400fI have no idea if it'll be user centric.. developer centric.. mixed.. commercialized... guess you'll find out :-)
16:39.53Whoanyway i hope i can take some pictures, sigh i left my camera at home, should have brought it
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16:48.00Harroldhi
16:48.10sebasWho: it's usually very relaxed, and you get to meet cool people :)
16:48.17HarroldI use kde-4.6 running on a gentoo and I'm having troubles using powerdevil
16:48.25Harroldon my laptop, when I unplug the power cord, nothing happens
16:48.27sebasSo don't worry too much, people are easy to approach and nice
16:48.31Harroldthe screen does not even dim
16:48.36Whoi hope i learn alot !
16:48.50sebasWho: definitely so :)
16:49.12sebasHarrold: check solid-powermanagement about what it reports, then upower, then acpi
16:49.29KWhat4Harrold: i think you need to setup scripts to do that sort of thing.  I generally just use powernowd instead.
16:49.33sebas(that's from high up above in the stack down to kernel, you'll want to find where it goes wrong)
16:49.55sebasKWhat4: no, should just work out of the box, and powernowd has been deprecated forever
16:50.09Harroldwell the cpu is downclocked
16:50.25Harroldjust the screen features in kde are not activated
16:50.30sebasah
16:50.31Harroldlike when I close the lid, nothing happens
16:50.31skramer_I use kde 4.6.1 on Kubuntu 10.10 and it seems that all apps startd with kdesudo are looking so ugly
16:50.41Harroldthe screen does not dim
16:50.42KWhat4sebas: the only thing i can get powerdevil to do is change the clock, everything else i had to script.
16:50.46skramer_any idea how to solve this problem?
16:50.47sebasI recall there was a bug about this, but it's fixed upstream
16:51.10Harroldso upgrade to kde-4.6.1?
16:51.19sebasI'd definitely do that, yes
16:51.33Harroldsigh
16:51.36Harroldso much compiling ;)
16:51.45sebasThat's your choice :)
16:52.15Harroldyes
16:52.19Harroldgentoo ftw! ;)
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16:54.56skramer_pls. se this screenshot http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/08/Screen1.png
16:55.21skramer_where Kate is started via kdesudo kate & it looks really ugly
16:55.33decraskramer_: and?
16:55.40skramer_not sure, but I guess the problem is only after upgrading to 4.6.1
16:55.53Harroldk
16:55.55Harroldwill update then
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16:56.06skramer_decra: I would like to ask hw to fix it
16:56.07Torchskramer_: when you run stuff via kdesudo it uses root's settings.
16:56.11decraskramer_: kate looks ugly cause root user has different appearence configurations
16:56.26Torchskramer_: so run systemsettings as root via kdesudo and change to your liking
16:57.04skramer_Torch: actually, the settings are same for normal user and root...
16:57.38Torchskramer_: then i didn't understand what you were talking about.
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17:30.00DrVodkahi, can anyone recommend a replacement for knetload from 3.x for 4.x?  I like the graph style in the tray, but haven't been able to find one that's basically the same... knetload from 3.x still works ok but i'd like to upgrade if i can
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17:31.51DamnshockDrVodka: why? if it still works...
17:32.17DrVodkaDamnshock, because i use debian, and it's not in the new repos
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17:32.48DrVodkai'd rather have something that will get updates and stuff if needed
17:32.49Harroldok
17:32.53HarroldI updated to powerdevil-4.6.1
17:32.56Harroldand nothing changes
17:33.51Harroldserval:
17:33.54Harroldups sorry
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18:29.58Zaister_Is there a tool similar to kdesvn for use with git?
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18:31.56Damnshockhttp://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=82402
18:32.38Zaister_thanks
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18:36.01QwertyMNot KDE, but personally I like using gitg
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18:37.11Zaister_I'd love something where i can direct something like a "compare local changes" or "compeare to HEAD" to an external viewer
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19:38.12ezakimakI installed kcm_gtk (1.1, using kde 4.6.1), but I do not see anything for it in system settings
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19:42.34icewindezakimak: iirc it is placed under application appearance
19:43.00ezakimakI don't see anything in there
19:43.16icewindtry the search bar in system settings
19:43.37ezakimakI did. "gtk" nothing
19:43.50ezakimakoh strange
19:43.51ezakimakit came up now
19:43.52icewindhave you restarted systemsettings?
19:43.54ezakimakit's under "lost and found"
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19:45.51ezakimaklooks like I need gtk-engines also
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19:50.12sigandersonhi I have kde 4.6.1 and when I disable "suspend desktop effects for fullscreen windows" I have lot of corruptions in the fullscreen window and more corruptions when the fullscreen window is closed
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19:51.48Peace-siganderson: nice
19:51.49Peace-xD
19:52.01sigandersonPeace-, thanks for the appreciation XD
19:53.33ezakimaki installed it, restarted system settings, and it still says gtk-qt theme engine is not installed
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20:09.29TravisBarkerhi all, i have a "now playing" plasma widget on my desktop, it wont close by clicking the X and I can't get rid of it :)
20:09.42ezakimakkill -9 ?
20:09.42TravisBarkersuggestions welcome...
20:09.53ezakimakxkill
20:10.29TravisBarkeri dont know the name of the widget to kill it
20:10.35TravisBarkertop shows plasma-desltop
20:10.38TravisBarkerdesktop*
20:10.44TravisBarkerbut thtats everything
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20:11.16TravisBarkerxkill kills the entimre plasma desktop
20:11.35ezakimaksounds like it's a child window of plasma desktop then
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20:11.55TravisBarkerits a "add widget" child yes
20:11.57ezakimakis your plasma desktop "locked" from changes?
20:12.02TravisBarkerno
20:12.12ezakimakctrl-f12 ?
20:12.12TravisBarkerits not locked i can add and remove other widgets at will
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20:12.49icewindTravisBarker: you should be able to remove it by editing ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
20:12.51TravisBarkerctrl-f12 brings it and others forward (such as desktop widget) but still cant click the X
20:13.02icewindif you can find the right place in that file that configure the widget
20:13.06TravisBarkericewind:  a low tech answer, ty
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20:14.37TravisBarkerfound it
20:14.39TravisBarkerty
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20:15.18nerdy_kiddoes anyone know if there are any plans to port the Oxygen style to msstyles after the gtk+ port is done?  It would be really useful for KDE-windows integration, also would be useful for people running windows in a vm.
20:15.35thiago_homewhat's an msstyle?
20:16.07nerdy_kidthiago_home: windows theme
20:16.26thiago_homeI doubt it
20:16.34thiago_homethere isn't much interest and it's probably very hard
20:16.57nerdy_kidyeah, your probably right.  It sucks though, cause Ubuntu has a windows theme now and it makes me jealous lol
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20:17.26nerdy_kidRunning WinXP in seamless VirtualBox blends in very well with the rest of Ubuntu's desktop now
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20:50.03Demosthenesso okular runs fine for a few days, then crashes, and now it crashes every time i open any pdf file. any suggestions?
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20:51.27Demostheneswhen i logout, the behavior will repeat.
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21:02.05Demostheneswow, strace shows it trying to close 1024 file descriptors at crash time
21:03.40thiago_homebefore the crash or after the crash?
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21:05.51Demostheneshttp://pastebin.com/BzKua08E
21:05.55Demostheneslast few hundred lines
21:06.00Demosthenesi can start okular.
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21:06.07Demosthenesthen when i open a file, it bombs immediately
21:06.13Demosthenesor it i specify a file on the cli
21:06.24thiago_homelook at line 166
21:06.54Demosthenes?
21:07.12thiago_homelook at it. That's your crash.
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21:07.19thiago_homeanything happening after line 166 is the crash handler.
21:07.32Demosthenesok
21:09.52Demostheneshrm
21:10.14Demosthenesi'm running awesomewm, not even kde... okular in this instance is a standalone kde app
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21:13.52Demosthenesmay have something to do with fonts. fd 7 is where the later failure occurs, and its trying to read font data
21:14.38pinotreeDemosthenes: instead of a strace output, try to get the backgrace from the crash dialog
21:14.53Demosthenespinotree: yeah, it wants to install debugging libs
21:15.10Demosthenesi've tried purging .kde/.../okular*
21:15.22Demosthenesit works for a week after login, then just bombs everytime
21:15.36thiago_homeDemosthenes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
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21:16.04thiago_homejust because the reading happened right before the crash, it doesn't mean it caused the crash
21:17.06Demosthenesi'll try out the debug symbols... i hate xpdf ;][
21:20.50Demosthenesafter i wait a few hours to download them ;]
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21:58.22rplntIs it normal that switching windows is kind of slow? Often it takes a second to "load content" of a window. Mostly windows that were on background for some time. Is there any way to fix this? Like extend cache or something...
21:58.42thiago_homenot a KDE question
21:59.05thiago_homethis is about how to tune your operating system. Please address that question to your distribution's channel.
22:00.10rplntthiago_home: Oh.. ok, thanks.
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