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00:40.35anon_timWhat is up with KDE 4.6 + Intel graphics cards?
00:40.50anon_timSomething is seriously wrong with the graphics refreshing
00:41.30anon_timI can type stuff, then try to delete it but it stays
00:41.39anon_timI have to move stuff around to get it to refresh
00:42.10anon_timFirefox is doing the same thing. backspace to go back a page, then it looks like you haven't done anything till you move the mouse around
00:42.13anon_timto reveal the new page
00:42.16anon_timor fiddle with the scroll bar
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02:16.14cato37_hello. i just upgraded to 4.6 and i cannot find the search box that used to be under tools. can anyone tell me where it went?
02:16.41cato37_dolphin>tools> <search>
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02:19.11bakersIs it possible to get dolphin to show previews of images over sftp:// or fish://
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02:26.28bakersI can get it to generate previews fine for local files, but not remote (sftp/fish)
02:26.32bakersor smb://
02:29.33kdepepobakers, check the size limits in Dolphin settings
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02:35.48bakerskdepepo: It's set at 2mb, and my jpg is just 50k
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02:42.55cato37_how do i configure dolphin so that i can access kfind from the <tools> button in the main toolbar, like it was?
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04:04.35amit_hallo everyone
04:04.53amit_im new in kde and recently i installed kubuntu desktop
04:05.29mshelbyWelcome! I think this channel is asleep at the moment!
04:05.30amit_and i want to attach windows button of keyboard to application launcher
04:05.42amit_so please tell me how i should proceed?/
04:06.31mshelbySystemSettings/Shortcuts & Gestures
04:07.17amit_let me check
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04:07.53mshelbyamit_ you have to define it.
04:08.12amit_how
04:08.36amit_<PROTECTED>
04:08.44amit_once it take it as input and
04:08.51amit_then reject it
04:09.03amit_so please tell me is this just a setting matter
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04:09.22amit_or there anything to do with source
04:09.28mshelbyNot sure. I'm afraid I can't be of help.
04:09.44James147amit_: the windows key (also called super or meta) is a modifier key in linux (like alt or ctrl) you cannot bind it to a shorcut without remapping it first
04:10.28amit_i know that its a modifier
04:10.35amit_but there must be some way
04:10.37James147amit_: its easier to use a different shorcut ^^ like alt+F1 (i think thats the default)... though i find using krunner (shorcut alt+f2) much faster then the menu :)
04:10.45amit_by which i can do it
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04:10.58amit_no
04:11.21amit_i want to use only it
04:11.54amit_is it impossible?/
04:12.26James147amit_: as far as i know it can be done ^^ though you may have to dig around the low level keyboard mappings ^^
04:12.32James147just isnt worth it ^^
04:13.23amit_i think it is important and simultaneously much cooler
04:13.28amit_if we can do it
04:14.49amit_one more thing
04:15.08amit_can we use net using
04:15.22amit_bluetooth device
04:15.29amit_(my cell)
04:15.43amit_in kubuntu desktop
04:15.52amit_:(
04:15.56amit_i tried too much but can't get it
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04:21.52amit_@james,please reply
04:25.19amit_is there anyone who can help me
04:25.36amit_in using my cell as modem on kubuntu desktop?/
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05:24.39dansushidoes anyone here know what it means when your screen flickers black a couple times, and then the X server restarts?
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05:45.05DaskreechDrivers are messed up?
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05:58.02dknightIf I close my lid and open it and resume working, kded4 takes 100% cpu usage. It is slowing my system down.
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06:58.38fesafderon fedora  kde does not show my multiple desktop i have only one !! i can't switch
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07:06.05real_atelove the dot post today guys! really great! :D
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07:09.27real_atebut it has actually sparked me to want to "join the game" ... is there any way to sign up to the paypal payment as a quarterly thing? I know you can do this because I have it for some of my magazine subscriptions
07:09.39real_ateand my hosting comes out this way
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08:30.25MirrakorHey, what's the difference between KDE 4.6 Branch and KDE 4 Live/trunk?
08:31.37cb400f4.6 branch is used for bugfixes for 4.6 series.. trunk is used for 4.7 development
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08:32.02Mirrakorah, cb400f a shining light :D
08:32.02pinotree(#opensuse-kde?)
08:32.08Mirrakor(of wisedome)
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08:34.09MirrakorHm, so 4.6 is the more stable thing and 4.7 is bleeding edge - which one to choose :D
08:34.30pinotreeif you want something stable, 4.6
08:34.48pinotreeotherwise, if you choose 4.7, make sure you can send patches for the issues
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08:35.28Mirrakorhehe :D
08:35.36Mirrakorbtw. is this Canterbury Project a joke?
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08:38.01Mirrakor(I'd wish a little bit that it is true, but I don't think so :D)
08:38.36kmzbyman, it's 1st of April outside ;)
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09:25.36DrVodkahi i have a question, i'm using 4.x on debian, and it seems that kde does something with the apt package manager, it gives a notification when updates are available, but it also seems to delete all the cached packages in /var/cache/apt/archives.  I do not want this delete behaviour, but cannot find which package of KDE i must remove to stop it, thank you
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09:52.05pinotreeDrVodka: this has nothing to do with kde, please ask in the #debian channel, in the irc.oftc.net irc network
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11:15.02asranielhi, is there a way to default kmix to mute when login in?
11:15.32katsrchey guys
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11:21.46sgnls@ asraniel; doesn't it remember it if you log off with it muted?
11:22.00sgnlsor do you want it to mute regardless of what state it's in when you logoff?
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11:49.37rethuswhere is the right irc for plasmoid question
11:49.42rethusabout kde micro-blogger
11:50.02rethusi'd like to change the font-colors. where can i do this?
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12:22.50pontoWhat are the recommended kmail view settings?  My inbox on an imap server has 10000 mails and it takes more than 10 seconds to open the inbox.
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12:25.42Ammlerponto: don't close it again ;-)
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12:26.24Ammleryou know, imap supports subdirectories?
12:26.36pontoI also remember that it was terribly slow when I still used local folders instead of imap.
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12:27.20Ammleroh, you think, it is an issue of kmail, ok sorry :-P
12:27.43pontoAmmler: yes. And I use them     thunderbird is on the same inbox quite instantaneous
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12:29.37pontoAmmler: 10000 is a small number and kmail shows performance problems on smaller folders.
12:30.24Ammlerindeed
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12:54.55VergeSo Gnome 3.0 pushed back too
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13:48.07minimiIm looking for SMTP library in KDE. Is there any?
13:48.56cb400fdunno.. much kde stuff uses non-kde libs
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13:49.52cb400fask in #kde-devel perhaps
13:50.28minimicb400f: yeah. Right
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14:15.27d-fens_hi, whats a good kio-slave wher i can edit a file (ssh/scp/fish/sftp) and a "save" in kate actually saves on server, so i don't have to close kate and get asked: upload on serever yes/no ?
14:15.48d-fens_this is really unhandy and slow
14:15.54cb400fsftp://
14:16.10pinotreei don't think that's a kio slave issue, but a kate one
14:16.22d-fens_so another parameter for kate opening teh file?
14:17.03d-fens_i have kate %U in my .desktop file
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14:40.13warcry_dzHello
14:40.28warcry_dzI have a problem with my kde panel
14:40.35warcry_dzcan any one help me plz
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14:40.58warcry_dzIt's aligned to the right I don't know why.
14:41.18cb400fdoes the panel configuration say it shouldn't be=?
14:42.00warcry_dzyes
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14:45.33cb400fwarcry_dz: hm.. maybe try removing the panel and add a new one
14:46.15warcry_dzI ll give u a snap shot
14:46.27warcry_dzof the situation
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15:00.17warcry_dzhttp://img121.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1rm.png/
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15:05.59cb400fwth.. kde3... you should warn people about using old dead software :-)
15:06.42cb400fsure there's no applet there in the empty space? or a spacer?
15:06.49warcry_dzno
15:07.01warcry_dzI can't  understand
15:07.10warcry_dzwhy it s aligned like this
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15:14.26VergeYou just have a spacer or something there
15:15.00warcry_dzhow can I get rid of it
15:15.17warcry_dzis there a way to relaunch the panel
15:15.21warcry_dzhelp plz
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15:20.16VergeRemove it and create a new one
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15:20.52warcry_dzdoesn't allow me to remove
15:20.56warcry_dzmain panel
15:21.03warcry_dzonly the panels I add
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15:21.21warcry_dzno the alignment problem is solved
15:21.23warcry_dzhowever
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15:21.41warcry_dzthere is no taskbar in my main panel
15:22.20warcry_dzeverythig is pitch perfect now
15:22.24Vergegood
15:22.25warcry_dzadd new appelet
15:22.29warcry_dztask bar
15:22.42warcry_dzI tried to install new kde
15:22.58warcry_dzis it really like 400 mb on harddisk
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15:23.16warcry_dzthanks every1 :)
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15:26.17warcry_dzthis is how I think I solved the issue
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15:26.38warcry_dzI resized the panel make it shorter
15:26.54warcry_dzso the kmenu button was on the extrem left
15:27.07warcry_dzthe I resize again to full length
15:27.28warcry_dzand it stayed on the left
15:28.54toothpickwhat is the best msn messenger for kde?
15:29.16VergeKopete
15:29.32VergeKmess has some advantages but I think its UI sucks big time
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15:32.04toothpickVerge: does it really support msn messenger? i see only jabber, xmpp and google talk
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15:32.40Verge"it"?
15:32.44VergeThey both support
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15:41.30toothpickVerge: i missed it, my gentoo compiled kopete with jabber and without msn
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15:50.04Brad777I'm trying to repair an NTFS file system and have received errors from fsck and gparted which I've pasted here: http://pastebin.com/cSybipCJ It is a friend's computer using windows xp. Windows xp was unable to recover the filesystem using chkdsk and I thought that maybe fsck would be able to recover it.
15:52.25pinotreeBrad777: you should ask in a general linux user support channel, not here (which is specific to KDE)
15:52.50Brad777Oh, sorry I thought it was just for questions for people using KDE in general.
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16:20.49Kame2hey guys, does anyone know what todo to install kde in home? i get this error when trying: http://pastebin.com/RkFvgtEW
16:21.12Kame2(using kdesrc-build and polkit IS installed in home too)
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17:15.51JoeSomebodyhi, when i plug in a hot-swap drive, nautilus opens, i have evolution, can a change a file somewhere and make that happen in dolphin?, i am using kde / dolphin.normally
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17:25.39sgnls@joesomebody: what is set under system settings > default applications > window manager
17:25.46sgnlsand file manager
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17:41.37JoeSomebodysgnls, i am using pclinuxos kde 4.6.1, any idea where i find those settings?
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17:56.26JoeSomebodystill looking
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18:03.21cb400fJoeSomebody: if you're unable to find it in kde systemsettings... run 'kcmshell4 componentchooser' in konsole
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18:03.49JoeSomebodyi am unable TO find kde systemsettings
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18:04.40JoeSomebodythere is configure your desktop and configure your computer
18:04.45JoeSomebodydidnt see anything
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18:05.09cb400ftry running 'systemsettings' in konsole and see if the thing starting up isn't "configure your desktop"
18:05.22JoeSomebodyok
18:05.28JoeSomebodynow i see kwin
18:05.43JoeSomebodyas default win mgr
18:05.51cb400fsome distros change the name.. to avoid confusion with their own control centers
18:05.59cb400fwants the name kcontrol back ;-)
18:06.24JoeSomebody:)
18:07.04JoeSomebodyhmm, dolphin is already my default
18:07.17JoeSomebodymore confused now
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18:08.22JoeSomebodycertain times nautilus opens, i don't like that
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18:11.52JoeSomebodyok so again,  can i change a text file somewhere and make that happen in dolphin?
18:12.45JoeSomebodyalias nautilus to dolphin somehow even?
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18:17.13cb400fyou have to be more specific about what you're doing when nautilus opens
18:17.26cb400fthe kde systemsettings only affect kde apps
18:17.56cb400fso if you do stuff in evolution, evolution doesn't respect kde settings
18:18.04cb400fit respects gconf settings or some crap like that
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18:18.32JoeSomebodyi am say in nothing
18:18.53JoeSomebodyand i plug in hard drive in my hotswap bay
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18:19.09JoeSomebodyand nautilus opens
18:19.58JoeSomebodyas in its associated with more than evolution, and that s either lame , or a mistake
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18:25.07JoeSomebodyfurthermore evolution wasn't even open
18:27.50cb400fso you have some gnome daemon running doing that
18:28.14cb400f.. kde won't even mount the thing until you click it in the device notifier
18:28.58cb400fask some gnomers how to turn that annoying behaviour off
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18:41.46hussamhi JoeSomebody. I just logged in but if you have any gnome related problems, I can definitely help.
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18:46.58JoeSomebodyhi
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18:47.29JoeSomebodywell i am not sure if there is a setting where i can tell nautilus not to be used
18:47.59JoeSomebodyi am ruiining kde 4.6.1 with pclinuxos, and have installed meta packages, like xfce and gnome
18:48.35JoeSomebodyi can remove them if removable
18:48.47JoeSomebodyi don't know if they are, yet
18:49.33hussamunder gnome? yes, there is a gconf setting that tell gnome-session to choose nautilus to handle the desktop
18:49.49hussamwith gnome-settings-daemon running
18:50.07cb400fhussam: he needs nautilus to not pop up whenever he plugs in some removable media
18:50.42JoeSomebodyyes  i do not want to customize more than one file manager
18:50.49hussamthat's not possible without nautilus running already.
18:50.56cb400fso if you know where to tell gnome to quit with the automounting and auto starting nautilus crap
18:51.04cb400fhmm
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18:51.19hussambecause nautilus uses gvfs to handle the removal media
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18:52.17hussamoh sorry
18:52.17JoeSomebodyoh well, another reason for me to reinstall clean
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18:52.25hussamI read the opposite
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18:53.13JoeSomebodyi am logged in kde so why nautilus has the nerve to pop up ? :)
18:53.17hussambut nautilus won't pop up if it isn't running
18:53.38JoeSomebodyhuh?
18:53.41hussamcheck if gnome-settings-daemon is running or not.
18:53.52JoeSomebodyi am running it in background?
18:54.00JoeSomebodyok
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18:55.15JoeSomebodyin pclinuxos control centre , services, no such animal
18:55.28hussamcheck if gvfsd or nautilus or gnome-settings-daemon are running.
18:55.41hussamrun ps in a terminal
18:55.43JoeSomebodyok i am a bit weak in terminal
18:55.46JoeSomebodyok
18:56.18hussam<PROTECTED>
18:56.23hussamsame with gvfs
18:56.34hussamand gnome-settings-daemon
18:57.36JoeSomebodylooks like no gnome-settings-daemon
18:57.55JoeSomebodythe other two responded
18:58.30hussamok, for some reason, nautilus is running. nautilus uses gvfs to handle removable media.
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18:59.06JoeSomebodymust be due to running evolution?
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19:00.04cb400fJoeSomebody: press ctrl+esc to get a nice gui process manager with a filter bar
19:00.04hussamnope
19:00.52hussamevolution only calls gconf
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19:13.20hussamkde doesn't use gio, does it?
19:13.22hussamI've only been using kde for a month now
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19:14.18JoeSomebodycb400f, cool, thanks
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19:14.33hussamsorry mevermind. google says kio
19:15.01cb400fand has been since the dawn of time :-)
19:16.13hussamwhat process handles removable media under kde?
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19:17.54cb400fnot sure exactly.. guess udisks talks to solid and vice versa.. maybe via kded4 or sumfink
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20:12.05DrVodkawhich part of KDE is it that auto checks for package updates and notifies me?
20:12.16spidermariokpackagekit
20:12.34spidermarioprobably
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20:12.50DrVodkahmm, thanks, i did search for 'packagekit' but couldn't find it
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20:12.58DrVodkais it part of some other package?
20:13.20DrVodkalocate kpackagekit gives me nothing either
20:13.23silviuhello, how can I find kdelibs/kdewebkit ?
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20:15.46silviuis there a directory kdelibs/kdewebkit ?
20:15.50silviuif so, how can I find it?
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20:33.21LacrociviousI have an issue with kde 4.6.1-3.fc14.i686 where a user instance of konqueror in filemanagement profile, and any app such as kate launched from that instance, refuse to accept changes to what I believe is widget style (scrollbars, tab headers, column headers, checkboxes, tree display). Can anyone explain what configuration file(s) may be responsible, and/or how to reset these off whatever style they are 'stuck' on?
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22:18.35urkudHi! I do not see ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable
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22:31.43dknightafter putting the lid down and reopening it, kded4 takes 100% cpu. probably kdeinit is spawning it.
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